2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[monkeypunk]

Only if Bonner leaves would I even consider Jamison if I were the Spurs.

This^

Jamison wouldn't make any kind of sense unless we were trading Bonner.

[objective]

Jamison is a minimum player who is finished. He doesn't matter.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Antwan Jamison? What the hell are we doing?

Jamison was VERY solid this year.

[loveforthegame]

Spurs all over the place. :lol

[manufan10]

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[Robz4000]

:lmao Spurs

I know most of these are bullshit, but on the off chance that last one isn't the Spurs should be ashamed of themselves.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

it really ought to.

[spursince#99]

Jamison is a minimum player who is finished. He doesn't matter.

[spursince#99]

:lmao Spurs

I know most of these are bullshit, but on the off chance that last one isn't the Spurs should be ashamed of themselves.

[Baam]

Clips definitely got better this off season.

[Johnny RIngo]

:lmao Spurs

I know most of these are bullshit, but on the off chance that last one isn't the Spurs should be ashamed of themselves.

TBH, Duncan should have left and joined the Heat last year. He takes a paycut, has a historic revival season, while Manu selfishly plays for Argentina and heals his injuries on company time and plays like shit all while being overpaid. And the Spurs reward this behavior by overpaying him again. Spurs FO can go fuck themselves.

[RD2191]

I'm a French model.

[BatManu20]

Interesting

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[DesignatedT]

Good. Closer to Brett Brown staying now.

[Robz4000]

Brad Stevens was amazing at Butler. Not sure how he'll do as an NBA coach tho.

[playblair]

great hire brad stevens is legit.......................

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[Holden_Caulfield]

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6 fucking years?! lol the fuck.

[PlayNando]

great hire brad stevens is legit.......................
word.....................

[loveforthegame]

So the Kings withdrew their offer for Iggy because Evans wanted to stay. Now he wants to leave? :lol

[BatManu20]

great hire brad stevens is legit.......................

word.....................

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[BatManu20]

There you have it

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[itzsoweezee]

With a couple of exceptions, college coaches are horrible in the NBA. Can't believe this guy is an nba head coach considering all of the more qualified coaches out there.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Spurs interested in K-Mart. At the vet minimum I assume.

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[Vic Petro]

If Tyreke goes to New Orleans, does that make Greivis Vazquez available? Slow but an underrated player.

[objective]

I don't understand posting tweets from random no-names who have no sources, break no news, and have nothing to add to the ST conversation that wasn't first broken down at length by the posters here already.

[Mel_13]

I don't understand posting tweets from random no-names who have no sources, break no news, and have nothing to add to the ST conversation that wasn't first broken down at length by the posters here already.

That, and tweets from supposed NBA experts who don't understand the basic elements of the CBA.

[Chinook]

That's been getting to me all week. Just because these people report on basketball (and I use the term "report" liberally here), doesn't make them experts on the CBA or on capology. In fact, the seem to have a very loose understanding of it.

It's one thing to post tweets when someone breaks a deal. But it's so pointless to post their speculation.

[TheGoldStandard]

Unless Wojo is announcing it then it's just speculation. Everytime I see Spurs linked with anyone I dismiss it, not happening.

[tesseractive]

I'm okay with what has happened so far, but if the Spurs sign Gary Neal with the MLE...
Even if they wanted to pay him that much, they wouldn't need to use the MLE, right? Spurs should have Bird rights.

[tesseractive]

It's one thing to post tweets when someone breaks a deal. But it's so pointless to post their speculation.
Sources say RC Buford was in the same room when someone mentioned Antawn Jamison's name in passing.

[BatManu20]

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[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[benefactor]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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Smart move, the well was drying up.

[loveforthegame]

Good. I didn't want any part of Korver.

[Ice009]

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FOR FUCKS SAKE. Now I am fucking mad. I was mad after game 6 and now these free agent signings, or lack thereof, have pissed me off even more. Couldn't Splitter and Manu have taken a slightly higher discount to open up 8 million or so to sign someone else? Would this have been possible if they both took a million less Bruno? Considering they fucked up in the finals, I would have thought this would be the decent thing to do.

They better fucking bring it next season and make up for their piss poor finals.

[Mugen]

ATL locking up Korver theoretically takes away one more more Kirilenko suitor from the pool.

But if Korver can get 6/year, I'd imagine AK's asking price to be around 8-9 million a year.

[BatManu20]

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[TheGoldStandard]

ATL locking up Korver theoretically takes away one more more Kirilenko suitor from the pool.

But if Korver can get 6/year, I'd imagine AK's asking price to be around 8-9 million a year.
That's pretty reasonable, Korver didn't see anyone else offering that deal or for the number of years.

[Chinook]

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Hey, if Bismack has enough mobility, he Zeller and Jefferson could be a pretty solid rotation.

[manufan10]

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[Chinook]

Big Al's getting $15 Million+ a year, and people are upset at Splitter getting $9 Million?

[manufan10]

I think this was pretty much a given, but:

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[BatManu20]

$15 mil per for Jefferson is funny. Makes Splitter look like a bargain tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Big Al's getting $15 Million+ a year, and people are upset at Splitter getting $9 Million?

Just looking to maximize his income for playing on a shitty team.

[Mel_13]

Big Al's getting $15 Million+ a year, and people are upset at Splitter getting $9 Million?

And some thought that Al was a viable target for the Spurs.

[coyotes_geek]

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This is some bullshit. DJ Jazzy Jody assured me he was going to the Nets.


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[timvp]

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I'd rather have Manu than two Kyle Korvers, tbh.

[Mugen]

:lol Cuban's going to give Big Al that contract tbh. I know it.

[ElNono]

Does that takes ATL out of the AK sweepstakes?

[Mel_13]

Does that takes ATL out of the AK sweepstakes?

Don't believe so. Resigning Josh Smith would.

[elemento]

:lol Cuban's going to give Big Al that contract tbh. I know it.

That would be a terrible mistake. BIG Al with Dirk would be the worst defensive front-court in the NBA.

[ElNono]

That would be a terrible mistake. BIG Al with Dirk would be the worst defensive front-court in the NBA.

Do it Mitch! I mean Cubes!

[Mugen]

Don't believe so. Resigning Josh Smith would.

I don't think ATL is interested in locking up 50mil to the SF spot for the next 4 years tbh.

They need bodies but they've got other spots to fill than SF with Korver coming back.

If Howard goes to the Rockets, i could see ATL doing some form of a S&T involving Smith for Lin/Asik.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Big Al's getting $15 Million+ a year, and people are upset at Splitter getting $9 Million?

Exactly, Seriously, Splitter was only 2 points and 1 point behind Jefferson and Howard last year in 48min Proficieny Ratings. Splitter isn't no scrub player.

I hope the Mavs do sign Big Al because that would eat all there remaining cap space. And it would mean that the Spurs would be the only contending team that could offer AK the full MLE and you really can't even call the Mavs a contending team at this point. There are some crappy teams with cap to sign him to a larger deal, but that would basically defeat his purpose of opting out to go to a contending team.

[Mel_13]

:lol Cuban's going to give Big Al that contract tbh. I know it.

Another reason why getting the Splitter deal done so early was important. With Paul off the market and Howard unlikely to choose Dallas, you know that Cuban is going to seriously overpay someone.

[crc21209]

:lol Korver. I thought he wanted to go a "contender." I know money talks but good luck finishing 5th or 6th in the East every year behind Miami, Indiana, New York, Brooklyn for the next 4 years..

[Mel_13]

I don't think ATL is interested in locking up 50mil to the SF spot for the next 4 years tbh.

They need bodies but they've got other spots to fill than SF with Korver coming back.

If Howard goes to the Rockets, i could see ATL doing some form of a S&T involving Smith for Lin/Asik.

I agree.

[coyotes_geek]

That would be a terrible mistake. BIG Al with Dirk would be the worst defensive front-court in the NBA.

True, but it would be fun to watch Dirk and Al continually race each other down the court to see who can get to the low left block first.

[Mugen]

Another reason why getting the Splitter deal done so early was important. With Paul off the market and Howard unlikely to choose Dallas, you know that Cuban is going to seriously overpay someone.

Yup. Breaking up a championship team only to strike out on D-Will, D12, CP3 means Cubes is going to Eric Dampier some lucky soul out there this summer.

[barakz21]

I'd rather have Manu than two Kyle Korvers, tbh.

But..but.. He's Ashton Kutcher! :cry

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol Korver. I thought he wanted to go a "contender." I know money talks but good luck finishing 5th or 6th in the East every year behind Miami, Indiana, New York, Brooklyn for the next 4 years..
Leaves me to believe very few people actually reached out to him.

[Mel_13]

Yup. Breaking up a championship team only to strike out on D-Will, D12, CP3 means Cubes is going to Eric Dampier some lucky soul out there this summer.

:lol

Fair warning, I'm going to be using that one and this constitutes attribution for all future use.

[Mugen]

:lol

Fair warning, I'm going to be using that one and this constitutes attribution for all future use.

All yours, Mel.

[BatManu20]

Hope not..

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[barakz21]

Yup. Breaking up a championship team only to strike out on D-Will, D12, CP3 means Cubes is going to Eric Dampier some lucky soul out there this summer.

That was fair value, 2nd best center in the NBA tbh.

[Mel_13]

13 out of 30 teams with new coaches? The whole league has ADD.

[spursince#99]

I heard somewhere we were interested in Kenyon Martin. Any truth to this rumor?

[Mugen]

That was fair value, 2nd best center in the NBA tbh.

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http://www.thefastlaneforum.com/attachments/mindset-motivation-choices/4491d1358810791-okay-i-admit-like-99-dreamers-im-just-wantrepreneur-not-sure-if-serious-_a3c87850b858e3bdd7d16ee8dcf5c0ea.jpg

[barakz21]

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He DID say he was the 2nd best center behind Shaq. :king

[TheGoldStandard]

That was fair value, 2nd best center in the NBA tbh.

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[benefactor]

I'd rather have Manu than two Kyle Korvers, tbh.
Agreed.

[DesignatedT]

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The Spurs need to get in on this like yesterday. Offer whatever for Vasquez.

[ElNono]

The Spurs need to get in on this like yesterday. Offer whatever for Vasquez.

co-sign

[Chinook]

Why not just a straight trade for Vasquez?

[benefactor]

Why not just a straight trade for Vasquez?
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Think he's worth a first rounder? The Spurs normally don't give away picks like that but the kid is legit.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

It's going to be sad to see Vasquez go to a team that isnt the Spurs.

[DesignatedT]

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Think he's worth a first rounder? The Spurs normally don't give away picks like that but the kid is legit.

Yes

[benefactor]

The Pelicans being a young team would love to pick up another first for next year to continue to build. Meanwhile, Vasquez helps this year and begins the transition building.

[8FOR!3]

He's a 6'6 point guard who is a good passer and can shoot the ball. Is basically a 15 & 10 player per around 37 minutes, that's beyond solid for a backup. I think he could put us over the top. Could play a little two guard too.

[DesignatedT]

A Vasquez - Manu run second unit would be awesome. Would allow Manu to play off the ball more. 9 assists per game for Grievas last season.

[Big P]

He's going to go to Sacramento when Evans get's S&T to the Pelicans. Watch.

[Chinook]

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Think he's worth a first rounder? The Spurs normally don't give away picks like that but the kid is legit.

I'd try to give them a guard or something for him. I don't think he's worth a first when they already have to draft picks backing up Parker now. Maybe if Vasquez had more than one year left on his deal, I'd still consider it. But a first in next year's draft is too much to pay for a rental.

[benefactor]

Yeah...that's the only catch. Could the Spurs get him to agree to an extension?

[8FOR!3]

I'd try to give them a guard or something for him. I don't think he's worth a first when they already have to draft picks backing up Parker now. Maybe if Vasquez had more than one year left on his deal, I'd still consider it. But a first in next year's draft is too much to pay for a rental.

Why a rental? Who's to say we can't resign him next year? He's 5 years younger than Parker and could fill a starting role once Parker leaves or retires. Might could even be Ginobili's replacement at the 2.

[benefactor]

Why a rental? Who's to say we can't resign him next year? He's 5 years younger than Parker and could fill a starting role once Parker leaves or retires. Might could even be Ginobili's replacement at the 2.
That's a crap shoot though. The Spurs are going to be in rebuild mode soon and knowing this he might not want to stick around for it.

[DesignatedT]

Seems like he might like it in SA and want to stay.

I would trade a first for him even if there wasn't a guarantee though. I know the draft is strong next year but lets stop acting like we know what's going to be there in the late 20s. Plus, if the Spurs really want back in the draft when the time comes then they can worry about making a move to get back in it.

Vasquez is a game changer and exactly what the Spurs need.

[Chinook]

Why a rental? Who's to say we can't resign him next year? He's 5 years younger than Parker and could fill a starting role once Parker leaves or retires. Might could even be Ginobili's replacement at the 2.

They can extend him this season, but as benefactor said, what price would be worth it? They'd have to give up some of their guards just to let it all make sense. Maybe send Joseph to Toronto and De Colo go Atlanta. In any event, I'd love a competent backup point-guard (especially a young one), but I'd be wary about trading for him without a good extension in mind. That'd at least insure he's going to buy in to coming off the bench.

[ElNono]

Vasquez is from Venezuela, IIRC... maybe Manu can give him a call, tbh

[Chinook]

A first could just end up becoming another Jean-Charles, so I know it's not exactly invaluable, but still, that's a lot of picks to invest in one position.

I also think Joseph could be a lot better next season. De Colo could as well, especially now that it seems he's buying in. I don't think the team should take giving up on them lightly.

[DesignatedT]

I like Joseph but I wouldn't have a problem unloading him and De Colo if it meant we have Vasquez signed up.

[Chinook]

Wouldn't it be funny to see a player traded twice within the same division over the course of a year? That's almost as bad as what happened with Robinson.

[Chinook]

I like Joseph but I wouldn't have a problem unloading him and De Colo if it meant we have Vasquez signed up.

I'd be fine with it if the team moved them for something (second-rounders are fine). But I wouldn't want them rotting on the bench for nothing, especially because neither can play the Neal role.

[ElNono]

we're gonna be playing plenty of small ball too in that second unit, I suspect... so a 3 guard combo out there is not out of the question. I don't see getting Vazquez meaning CoJo/DeColo can't play. He could just have Neal's role.

[ace3g]

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[DPG21920]

I wouldn't hate GV but I'm not a fan overall. I know his stats look great but I watched the 'cans play quite a bit & I just don't buy into GV

[Chinook]

I imagine a Vasquez extension would be in the neighborhood of $20-25M/4. If he makes that much money, he'll probably be the new sixth man. While I think we could (and as of now would) see Ginobili and Green play the three a good deal, Vasquez would probably eat all of the backup point-guard minutes and a good deal of Ginobili's minutes. Or of De Colo, Mills and Joseph would be a fringe rotation player, but the other would be in a suit most games. Those players need to get game time to figure things out.

[chrhawk]

How likely is it that Dell Demps does the Spurs a solid?

[8FOR!3]

Greivis Vasquez is that dude.

[Sean Cagney]

FOR FUCKS SAKE. Now I am fucking mad. I was mad after game 6 and now these free agent signings, or lack thereof, have pissed me off even more. Couldn't Splitter and Manu have taken a slightly higher discount to open up 8 million or so to sign someone else? Would this have been possible if they both took a million less Bruno? Considering they fucked up in the finals, I would have thought this would be the decent thing to do.

They better fucking bring it next season and make up for their piss poor finals.

LOL HI ICE! DAMN MAN you are just like me at times! I said this same thing earlier, when I saw that SHITHEAD BONNER back and maybe Neal too! Piss poor finals though nah! They played the game and played to win, just blew a half a minute to lose it :( Otherwise they came to win. I agree on next season though, not crazy over BONNER back at all nor Neal, not a fan of those guys at all and never will be, wish they were gone for others.

[tim_duncan_fan]

To get excited about the possibility of Vasquez or not to get excited about the possibility?

That is the question.

[BatManu20]

Just throwing this out there, but would Cojo + draft pick possibly entice the Hornets to trade Vasquez? I doubt the Spurs would even consider it, but it's an interesting proposition.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Kirilenko looking for a three year contract and is willing to think about veteran minimum after that -

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_23578174/timberwolves-andrei-kirilenko-happy-everything-except-contract

Give him a four year contract with the fourth year partially guaranteed (MLE?) and I think there is a way he could be swayed.

[BatManu20]

Kirilenko looking for a three year contract and is willing to think about veteran minimum after that -

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_23578174/timberwolves-andrei-kirilenko-happy-everything-except-contract

Give him a four year contract with the fourth year partially guaranteed (MLE?) and I think there is a way he could be swayed.

Please make it happen Spurs.. Something tells me another team will give him a 3 year deal at $7-9 million. And guarantee a starting spot. Spurs can do neither.

[TE]

Kirilenko looking for a three year contract and is willing to think about veteran minimum after that -

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_23578174/timberwolves-andrei-kirilenko-happy-everything-except-contract

Give him a four year contract with the fourth year partially guaranteed (MLE?) and I think there is a way he could be swayed.
Judging from the content in that article it's near safe to say he wants to (and probably will) remain in Minny...Next!

[Spursfanfromafar]

Judging from the content in that article it's near safe to say he wants to (and probably will) remain in Minny...Next!

But Minny can't afford him having signed Martin & Budinger and soon to resign Pekovic.

[ElNono]

actually, that's an old article... and now Minny signed KMart, and might not have money for AK...

[Sean Cagney]

Clips definitely got better this off season.

That is the only team I can really see who did! They did get better. They got a better coach now too. BROOKLYN got better too IMO, but they are not a top three team out East IMO so blahhhhhhhhhhh that is not my concern. Other than that others got worse or just stood pat so far.

[TE]

Vasquez would fit perfectly on this team as a backup PG. He's a cerebral player in a picknroll scheme and he has a swagger about him. The Spurs should go after him.

[TE]

But Minny can't afford him having signed Martin & Budinger and soon to resign Pekovic.
I wonder where he ends up...

[BackHome]

I think he screwed up by opting out and putting out there he wants to play for a contender. He is probably not getting the interest that his agent thought he was and so is now trying to work out a deal to stay.

[FireMicoHalili]

Yes
Son if you think Manu went hot potato in the finals, just think about this: Vazquez's spirit animal is a hot potato
Totals

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Season
Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS


2010-11 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vasqugr01/gamelog/2011/)
24
MEM (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MEM/2011.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011.html)
SG
70
1
860
95
233
.408
25
86
.291
34
44
.773
12
61
73
151
22
4
70
83
249


2011-12 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vasqugr01/gamelog/2012/)
25
NOH (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NOH/2012.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012.html)
SG
66
26
1706
225
523
.430
43
135
.319
96
117
.821
23
150
173
359
60
8
148
126
589


2012-13 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vasqugr01/gamelog/2013/)
26
NOH (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NOH/2013.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013.html)
PG
78
78
2685
438
1012
.433
83
243
.342
124
154
.805
43
294
337
704
66
6
247
190
1083



A scorching hot three turnovers per 36 minutes


2012-13 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vasqugr01/gamelog/2013/)
26
NOH (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NOH/2013.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013.html)
PG
78
78
2685
5.9
13.6
.433
1.1
3.3
.342
1.7
2.1
.805
0.6
3.9
4.5
9.4
0.9
0.1
3.3
2.5
14.5


Turnovers in bold. 3.3 per 36
#9 in the league in turnovers what



PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME
GP
MPG
TO (http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Turnovers.jsp?league=00&season=22012&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=1&splitDD=All%20Teams)
TOPG
TOP48 (http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Turnovers.jsp?league=00&season=22012&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=3&splitDD=All%20Teams)
AST/TO (http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Turnovers.jsp?league=00&season=22012&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=4&splitDD=All%20Teams)
STL/TO (http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Turnovers.jsp?league=00&season=22012&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=5&splitDD=All%20Teams)


1
Rajon Rondo (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rajon_rondo/index.html?nav=page), BOS (http://www.nba.com/celtics/index.html?nav=page)
38
37.4
148
3.9
5.0
2.84
.47


2
James Harden (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/james_harden/index.html?nav=page), HOU (http://www.nba.com/rockets/index.html?nav=page)
78
38.3
295
3.8
4.7
1.54
.48


3
Jrue Holiday (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jrue_holiday/index.html?nav=page), PHI (http://www.nba.com/sixers/index.html?nav=page)
78
37.5
292
3.7
4.8
2.14
.42


4
Kobe Bryant (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/index.html?nav=page), LAL (http://www.nba.com/lakers/index.html?nav=page)
78
38.6
287
3.7
4.6
1.63
.37


5
Kevin Durant (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_durant/index.html?nav=page), OKC (http://www.nba.com/thunder/index.html?nav=page)
81
38.5
280
3.5
4.3
1.34
.41


6
Russell Westbrook (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/russell_westbrook/index.html?nav=page), OKC (http://www.nba.com/thunder/index.html?nav=page)
82
34.9
273
3.3
4.6
2.22
.53


7
Kyrie Irving (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kyrie_irving/index.html?nav=page), CLE (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/index.html?nav=page)
59
34.7
191
3.2
4.5
1.83
.47


8
John Wall (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/john_wall/index.html?nav=page), WAS (http://www.nba.com/wizards/index.html?nav=page)
49
32.7
157
3.2
4.7
2.38
.41


9
Greivis Vasquez (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/greivis_vasquez/index.html?nav=page), NOH (http://www.nba.com/hornets/index.html?nav=page)
78
34.4
247
3.2
4.4
2.85
.27



Cue 'Oh he's in good company because of Rondo Harden Holiday Bryant etc' hahaha very funny. But if we were going for ball safety, I disapprove of Vazquez.

[Vic Petro]

Vasquez would probably rather start in Sacramento than come off the bench in San Antonio tbh.

[MeloHype]

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[blkroadrunners]

Damn, that Southwest division is gonna be brutal next season.

[ducks]

Judging from the content in that article it's near safe to say he wants to (and probably will) remain in Minny...Next!

THAT ARTICLE IS JULY 1

[loveforthegame]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228625/Kings-Pelicans-Blazers-Discuss-Evans-Vasquez-Lopez-Deal


The Pelicans would acquire a newly signed Evans while Greivis Vasquez would be sent to the Kings and Robin Lopez moved to the Blazers.

It is unclear what the Blazers would trade to participate in the deal.

[manufan10]

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[smaka]

Al Jefferson is heading to Charlotte on three-year deal worth estimated$41 million with opt out after Year 2, sources tell ESPN


So what is your opinion about Splitter's deal now? :lol

[Baam]

Al Jefferson is heading to Charlotte on three-year deal worth estimated$41 million with opt out after Year 2, sources tell ESPN


So what is your opinion about Splitter's deal now? :lol

3 years is pretty nice because it gives better flexibility, besides big Al has probably the best post game of any center so he's in another galaxy compared to Splitter...

[Baam]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228625/Kings-Pelicans-Blazers-Discuss-Evans-Vasquez-Lopez-Deal

:lol Blazers getting us to overpay for T-Vag and then getting Robin Lopez who makes 5M a year...

[BatManu20]

Bobcats are going to be scary next year....... :rolleyes

[DesignatedT]

3-41 is pretty good.

[Texas_Ranger]

Al Jefferson is heading to Charlotte on three-year deal worth estimated$41 million with opt out after Year 2, sources tell ESPN


So what is your opinion about Splitter's deal now? :lol

I don't know. His stats are pretty good. 18 & 9. Last year in the playoffs he averaged the same against Splitter. His D is pretty bad, while his offense is much, much better than Splitter's. I'd still wouldn't give him 13,6m a year, but if Manu is worth 7M then fuck it.

[timtonymanu]

:lmao Bobcats
What a shitty contract.

[BatManu20]

They now have a nucleus of Jefferson, Zeller, and MKG. Could be worse.

[Baam]

They now have a nucleus of Jefferson, Zeller, and MKG. Could be worse.

Yep they are getting much better.

[BatManu20]

The main thing bobcats fans are excited about this offseason is the unveiling of their new Hornets uni's tbh.

[barakz21]

'Cats would still suck, but still better than this year or last. Think of the Bucks, or Kings. This year, they get a legit go-to guy, although he's no franchise player. But if Zeller pans out, MKG improves and stays healthy, Walker continues improving and if Biyombo becomes AT LEAST a rotation player, then they could fight for the 8th seed but ultimately come up short. A lot of ifs, but that's how the 'Cats are.

[BatManu20]

@SportBlogNYC: 3 team deal between the Pelicans, Kings, and Blazers about to go down. Tyreke Evans to NO, Greivis Vasquez to SAC, Robin Lopez to POR.

[BatManu20]

Portland gets their backup Center.

[loveforthegame]

Have fun in Charlotte Jefferson. :lol

[timtonymanu]

They now have a nucleus of Jefferson, Zeller, and MKG. Could be worse.

Probably. Also Kemba. Seems like nothing ever goes right for the 'Cats though. :lol.

[jon123spurs]

Looks like the Bobcats are amnestying Tyrus Thomas. I think we should go after him.

[benefactor]

Almost 14 million a year for big that is no defense, empty stat machine. I'm sure his stats will look good again this year as the Bobcats head back to the lottery.

[jon123spurs]

Paul Garcia PS (@PaulGarciaPS) tweeted at 1:31 PM on Thu, Jul 04, 2013:
“@daldridgetnt: Bobcats will amnesty F Tyrus Thomas to create the room to sign Jefferson.”
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS/status/352857223426355200)

[Robz4000]

Welp, so much for Vasquez...

[Baam]

Almost 14 million a year for big that is no defense, empty stat machine. I'm sure his stats will look good again this year as the Bobcats head back to the lottery.

He was the first option on a playoff team, that's more than T-Vag can ever hope to become...

[benefactor]

He was the first option on a playoff team, that's more than T-Vag can ever hope to become...
He's not awful...but he's an empty stat machine nonetheless...and he's certainly not worth almost 14 million a year. I'd much rather have a big that is an elite pick and roll player, actually plays defense and can pass for 8-9 million than an offense only player for 5-6 million more per year.

[Chinook]

He was the first option on a playoff team, that's more than T-Vag can ever hope to become...

He was the first option for a BAD playoff team that got swept in large part due to his lack of defense and his ball-stopping on offense. I hope Splitter never becomes that.

[benefactor]

It's funny to hear Spur fan talking about wanting Jefferson, because in a series against the Heat he would be in the exact same place as Splitter was...on the bench due to matchups.

[Baam]

It's funny to hear Spur fan talking about wanting Jefferson, because in a series against the Heat he would be in the exact same place as Splitter was...on the bench due to matchups.

:lol Right, arguably the best post up game in the nba on the bench in a Miami series...

[DesignatedT]

It's funny to hear Spur fan talking about wanting Jefferson, because in a series against the Heat he would be in the exact same place as Splitter was...on the bench due to matchups.

I agree that Big Al isn't a great fit here but he would absolutely abuse Miami for putting Chalmers, Miller, etc on him. Miami had a PG guarding Tiago out there.

[benefactor]

He would give up as many points as he provided on the other end. Spurs don't need him...and they certainly don't need him for that type of money. They need a combo forward that can play effective small ball.

Are you both saying you would have given that contract to Jefferson?

[chrhawk]

It's funny to hear Spur fan talking about wanting Jefferson, because in a series against the Heat he would be in the exact same place as Splitter was...on the bench due to matchups.

Imagine Jefferson trying to guard Bosh on the perimeter. Or James when Big Al switches onto him. Ouch

[Johnny RIngo]

I agree that Big Al isn't a great fit here but he would absolutely abuse Miami for putting Chalmers, Miller, etc on him. Miami had a PG guarding Tiago out there.

Remember when OKC defended Tiago with Derek Fisher :lol

Never seen a big man embarrass himself like that since Shawn Bradley

[DesignatedT]

I just said Jefferson doesn't fit in well here but lets stop defending Tiago in the Finals. He played like a big pussy out there and was a big reason we didn't win the 'ship.

[benefactor]

Imagine Jefferson trying to guard Bosh on the perimeter. Or James when Big Al switches onto him. Ouch
Exactly. For all his usefulness on the offensive end he would become a traffic cone on the other. If the Spurs can't defend effectively they have no chance against the Heat, no matter what kind of post player is in the lineup.

[elmanutres]

Spurs just can't do shit in the summer

https://nypelagic.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/disappoint4.jpg

[benefactor]

I never defended him in the Finals. I said Jefferson would not be any better.

Splitter's contribution is mostly to keep Duncan fresh and matchup against bigger teams. The Spurs need Splitter AND another good combo forward to put them over the top.

[DesignatedT]

The Spurs need Splitter AND another good combo forward to put them over the top.

Hard to get both when the one used to "keep duncan fresh" is making 36M.

Splitter is completely useless without Tony feeding him bunnies at the rim. He's a good defender but soft as tissue paper. And the Spurs rewarded that with $36M. It is what it is.

And I have a hard time seeing under any circumstance Jefferson playing any worse than Tiago did during that particular series.

[benefactor]

The Spurs played a starting level big starting level money. That is all that it is. The fact that you are still in emotional girl mode from the finals doesn't change that.

[DesignatedT]

Lets just hope Tiago continues to improve and grows a pair of nuts. Cuz he certainly isn't worth $9M at the moment.

[DesignatedT]

The Spurs played a starting level big starting level money. That is all that it is. The fact that you are still in emotional girl mode from the finals doesn't change that.

Yeah they did. Good for them. Lol wut?

[spursince#99]

Why would we need another tweener?

[LakerHater]

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[Baam]

^ I kinda wonder what's Tristan Thompson future on this team... Good friend of Cojo too...

[barakz21]

I agree with benefactor. I mean, when they go small ball and Kawhi's at the 4, they need somebody to.. you know, play the Kawhi role at the 3. Makes AK47 perfect imho. They'd probably be fine with Manu at the 3 even if it was Manu of recent years. But present day Manu? Good luck with that.

[Mel_13]

Laker bench gets even thinner.

[LakerHater]

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[spursince#99]

So now who's going to defend Duncan?

[Baam]

WOW:

[Baam]

:wow:wow:wow

[Mel_13]

lol Presti.

[Baam]

So now who's going to defend Duncan?

Well Ibaka or Colinson (who is not really worse) but who is going to punish Durant on offense if they go small full time? Not Splitter

[Baam]

Damn that's a huge move... Can't get over it...

[jermaine]

Okc must be planning on playing hella small ball.

[LakerHater]

Well Ibaka or Colinson (who is not really worse) but who is going to punish Durant on offense if they go small full time? Not Splitter

uhhmmm Kawhi?

[Baam]

Better hope they don't get a good center now...

[timtonymanu]

DeRozan has given the Spurs fits in the past. Upgrade over Kevin Martin.

[Baam]

Do they free up any capspace with that move? If they got someone like Dalembert we'd be fucked...

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

352866026217680896
Fake

[benefactor]

:lol trading away Perkins after letting him eat you cap space you needed to sign Harden
:lol Presti

[ElNono]

Al Jefferson is overrated as fuck...

[Baam]

:lol

Damn you LH it's fake indeed...

[benefactor]

Shit...that's the fake Woj. Got me too.

[lmbebo]

352866026217680896
Fake account

[Holden_Caulfield]

lol i was like, why the fuck would toronto do that :lol

[spursince#99]

Damn. 9.5/10 tbh.

[Russ]

Great trade for OKC. :(

(I'm always the last to know.)

[timtonymanu]

:lol That got me too.

[Mel_13]

Shit...that's the fake Woj. Got me too.

And me. I was confused because the numbers didn't make sense, but figured that Woj is always right.

[LakerHater]

Fake
352869902064959488

:lol

[LakerHater]

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[SanDiegoSpursFan]

352870309759688708
Real

[Baam]

Doesn't bode well for Neal or De Colo...

[Holden_Caulfield]

how many times have we been in serious talks with someone and nothing happens. every single time :lol

[Baam]

how many times have we been in serious talks with someone and nothing happens. every single time :lol

Woj is super reliable tho.

At first they asked about big names and now that they resigned Tiago and Manu they're mostly asking about scrubs so I tend to believe it.

[chrhawk]

how many times have we been in serious talks with someone and nothing happens. every single time :lol

There is a difference between "interest" and "serious talks".

[LakerHater]

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[benefactor]

352871323879485440
:lol

[Robz4000]

352870309759688708

THAT dude

[timtonymanu]

how many times have we been in serious talks with someone and nothing happens. every single time :lol

Woj is legit.

[LakerHater]

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[Baam]

352873148011659264

:hat:hat:hat

De Colo gotta go.

[chrhawk]

352873148011659264

Wonder what that could mean for Joesph or DeColo. Or maybe Neal could be used in a sign and trade?

[LakerHater]

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[BackHome]

Damn still want AK

[LakerHater]

Damn still want AK

ME TOO!!!!

[Baam]

Is Green getting traded, he has high value and this doesn't make that much sense to me if he isn't.

[LakerHater]

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[Holden_Caulfield]

352874160277557248

fuck yeahhhhhhhh

[LakerHater]

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[ChumpDumper]

Fake accountTrade wouldn't have worked anyway.

[LakerHater]

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[Baam]

Bruno do you think Green could be getting traded? Seems weird to me...

[timtonymanu]

Not a bad deal.

I'm sure the usual greys are going to be angry it wasn't AK47.

[SpursDynasty21]

Good signing for the Spurs.

[barakz21]

Haven't really seen much of Belinelli, but I remember seeing mock drafts before the 07 draft that says his most accurate player projection is Manu. I don't think it turned out that way, but anyone here familiar with Belinelli? What can we expect out of him, aside from shooting?

[LakerHater]

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[LakerHater]

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[LakerHater]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--spurs-reach-agreement-to-sign-marco-belinelli-195549381.html

[Andthentherewas21]

Haven't really seen much of Belinelli, but I remember seeing mock drafts before the 07 draft that says his most accurate player projection is Manu. I don't think it turned out that way, but anyone here familiar with Belinelli? What can we expect out of him, aside from shooting?

Given all the injuries to the bulls this postseason, he was the 2nd facilitator behind Robinson. He's a streaky shooter who can run the pick and roll decently. Not a great defender but better than Neal. Doesn't drive much to the basket.

[LakerHater]

Given all the injuries to the bulls this postseason, he was the 2nd facilitator behind Robinson. He's a streaky shooter who can run the pick and roll decently. Not a great defender but better than Neal. Doesn't drive much to the basket. KEY!

[barakz21]

Given all the injuries to the bulls this postseason, he was the 2nd facilitator behind Robinson. He's a streaky shooter who can run the pick and roll decently. Not a great defender but better than Neal. Doesn't drive much to the basket.

Just as I thought! Well, at least from the very few times I've seen him. Thanks for confirming it, and for the heads up on Belinelli too! :toast

[LakerHater]

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[ducks]

well friday howard is suppose to make a decision
then things will pick up
no one wants ak47 except spurs ...

[ElNono]

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[barakz21]

352881147115610113

:lol All world. Wouldn't be surprised if the first ever Flip to play in the league would be in the Spurs roster.

[LakerHater]

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[LakerHater]

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[LakerHater]

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[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Anthony Morrow has been in contact with the L.A. Lakers, San Antonio Spurs, Phoenix Suns, Houston Rockets and New York Knicks, per a source.

I would give this a thumbs up, but we signed Belinelli already, no need for him anymore as a Neal replacement

[manufan10]

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[Baam]

Looks like AK is definitely not coming.

[spursince#99]

All I want for Christmas is a backup for Kawhi and Greg Oden. Oh and some extra Stephen Jackson music albums.

[lmbebo]

At this point, I would be ok with Oden (assuming he can play semi decently) and Casspi

[chrhawk]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Anthony Morrow has been in contact with the L.A. Lakers, San Antonio Spurs, Phoenix Suns, Houston Rockets and New York Knicks, per a source.

I would give this a thumbs up, but we signed Belinelli already, no need for him anymore as a Neal replacement

I'm not buying this tbh unless the Spurs wanted to include Green in a trade which I'd be completely against.

[objective]

Morrow probably just in talks for a camp invite.

[CGD]

Wonder if the Spurs' interest in Corey Brewer is still there from last year. I would think he would get offers similar to AK -- not that he's better necessary, but he is younger and has shown a willingness to work on his game. May be a good Plan B? Blazers, Hawks, Kings, and Rockets have been linked to him this off-season.

[manufan10]

352927213831716864

:lol Richard Jefferson is gonna end up screwing the Warriors.

[objective]

Taking on Jefferson and not amnestying Biedrins. Way to go Warriors.

[Mel_13]

352927213831716864

:lol Richard Jefferson is gonna end up screwing the Warriors.

They'd have to salary dump RJ, Biedrins, and Lee. No way to get that done. Too bad that they used their amnesty on a $4M player.

[elemento]

They'd have to salary dump RJ, Biedrins, and Lee. No way to get that done. Too bad that they used their amnesty on a $4M player.

Yeah and they used the amnesty clause on Bell to make a 40m bid on Deandre Jordan.

What a massive fail seriously :lmao

[outmap]

All I want for Christmas is a backup for Kawhi and Greg Oden. Oh and some extra Stephen Jackson music albums.

Aminu or Brewer please! Then Oden! :)

[manufan10]

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[DesignatedT]

If I am the Lakers I'm doing everything possible to land a Bogut + Barnes +1st for Howard trade. That sets LA up really nice following next season. They would have Kobe (30M), Gasol (20M), and Bogut (15M) all coming off the books mixed in with a very promising player in Barnes and two 1st round draft picks in next years strong draft.

[Mel_13]

It's Houston or the Lakers. Everyone else is just kidding themselves.

[celldweller]

Howard is such an overrated "Prima Donna," Just pick already and move on!

[Baam]

It's Houston or the Lakers. Everyone else is just kidding themselves.

Mark Jackson the preacher mindfucked bible kemp garanteed.

[TheGreatYacht]

If I am the Lakers I'm doing everything possible to land a Bogut + Barnes +1st for Howard trade. That sets LA up really nice following next season. They would have Kobe (30M), Gasol (20M), and Bogut (15M) all coming off the books mixed in with a very promising player in Barnes and two 1st round draft picks in next years strong draft.Bingo. I mentioned something similar on another thread a few days ago. Bogut and Harrison Barnes for DH12 would be a good deal. To match the numbers, Bogut and David Lee for DH12 would be even better. DH12 can pretty much do everything that Bogut and Lee do combined, not to mention the fact Bogut and Lee are always getting injured. The most important thing for GSW is to keep their shooters like Thompson, Curry, and Barnes. DH12 needs all the shooters that he can get to spread the floor.

[Mel_13]

Mark Jackson the preacher mindfucked bible kemp garanteed.

Beyond convincing Howard, they have to do one of two things:

1. Clear 34M in cap space over the weekend or

2. Get the Lakers to agree to a sign and trade (while not giving up so much that Howard no longer wants to go there)

Good luck with that.

[TheGreatYacht]

Beyond convincing Howard, they have to do one of two things:

1. Clear 34M in cap space over the weekend or

2. Get the Lakers to agree to a sign and trade (while not giving up so much that Howard no longer wants to go there)

Good luck with that.If GSW can hold on to Klay Thompson, Steph Curry, and Harrison Barnes/Jarret Jack, then that will be enough to entice Dwight Howard to sign with the Warriors IMO.