2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[Robz4000]

Would be for the best if another team picks him up. At this point I don't trust the Spurs to avoid falling in love with his 3-point shot and adding another redundant piece.

[LakerHater]

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[LakerHater]

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[HarlemHeat37]

Morrow to the Grizzlies makes sense, they need any form of shooting they can get, tbh..

[Bruno]

So D'Antoni struggled last year to make the Gasol/Howard combo works in his system and now Lakers are looking to add Kaman?
What would be logical for them would be to look at a PF and move Gasol at the C spot with Jordan Hill backing him up.

[raybies]

So D'Antoni struggled last year to make the Gasol/Howard combo works in his system and now Lakers are looking to add Kaman?
What would be logical for them would be to look at a PF and move Gasol at the C spot with Jordan Hill backing him up.

I'm interested to see how Ryan Kelly does. I had him on my personal list for the draft although I'm not sure if the Spurs even worked him out.

[Baam]

Would love to get Jordan Hill if he becomes expendable for the Lakers... Elite rebounder and still pretty young...

[Chinook]

What is Atlanta doing? They are trying to blow their cap space on two players they didn't need in Millsap and Ellis instead of just taking or looking for a suitable center and small-forward. They may as well have taken the deal Golden State struck with Utah.

[Clipper Nation]

Two decades teetering between low playoff seeds and late lottery picks. Almost always mediocre. Never any reason for hope.
They're owned by a senile old fossil who thinks aiming for 41 wins and the 8th seed is the only thing keeping the Bucks from having to move away, tbh.... and their GM is one of the worst in basketball....

[playblair]

spurs are meeting with morrow next week.........................

[LakerHater]

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[Chinook]

While this doesn't take the Bucks out as a suitor for Neal, it probably decreases their desperation a bit. I'm curious to see who signs him and what the amount will be.

[LakerHater]

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[ElNono]

354031941269463042

wow, congrats carlos

[BatManu20]

Wth are the Bucks doing tbh.. they're signing just enough talent to keep themselves out of the top 3 in the lottery next year. Beyond dumb.

[DPG21920]

Except Dwight.

I t'd it up for someone :lol

[spursnatic]

Could the Spurs actually plan on going into next season with one SF on the roster?They did it pretty much last year, well actually they thought we only had on SF on the team?..Big reason why Kawhi at such a young age is already having knee problems...Hope these kind of injuries don't linger, especially with FO seeing him as a Franchise Player moving forward

[houston spurs fan]

Bucks trumping Hawks for worst off season with Delfino signing. Wiggins say hi to the Magic of Celtics.

[Darkwaters]

While this doesn't take the Bucks out as a suitor for Neal, it probably decreases their desperation a bit. I'm curious to see who signs him and what the amount will be.

Have there been any Neal-related rumors of yet? I haven't seen or heard any.

[HarlemHeat37]

Have there been any Neal-related rumors of yet? I haven't seen or heard any.

Pistons IIRC..

[rjv]

stephen jackson getting any takers ?

[TXstbobcat]

stephen jackson getting any takers ?

I haven't heard a rumor of any team having any interest in him.

Going from 10 million per year to maybe having to settle for a minimum deal.

[objective]

Woj is reporting that Iguodala will actually go to GS in a sign-and-trade 3 team deal, with Foye going to Denver.

It will allow Golden State to still use their MLE apparently.

Maybe AK would be in play there if he doesn't mind coming off the bench?

[K-State Spur]

Two decades teetering between low playoff seeds and late lottery picks. Almost always mediocre. Never any reason for hope.

Since '94, they've had 12 lottery picks and 2 top overall picks. Bad decision making has played a major role in it:

They took Big Dog #1 overall when they should have taken Kidd.
They took Bogut #1 overall in the Deron Williams, CP3 draft.
They took Yan Jianlan at #6 when they could have had Noah.
They took Joe Alexander at #8 when they could have had Brook Lopez.
They traded Jimmer Fredette's draft rights at #10 for Corey Maggette, when they should have just drafted Klay Thompson.

But the epic clusterf**k of a decision that they made in that span was trading Dirk's draft rights for Tractor Traylor.

[look_at_g_shred]

Since '94, they've had 12 lottery picks and 2 top overall picks. Bad decision making has played a major role in it:

They took Big Dog #1 overall when they should have taken Kidd.
They took Bogut #1 overall in the Deron Williams, CP3 draft.
They took Yan Jianlan at #6 when they could have had Noah.
They took Joe Alexander at #8 when they could have had Brook Lopez.
They traded Jimmer Fredette's draft rights at #10 for Corey Maggette, when they should have just drafted Klay Thompson.

But the epic clusterf**k of a decision that they made in that span was trading Dirk's draft rights for Tractor Traylor.

Damn, they could've had a great young duo with Jennings and Thompson...fucking idiots! Oh and Tractor Traylor :lol

[elec99]

Upset we missed out on hickson, assumed he would've come to SA that is. But he's worth 5M a year, dude has a high motor.

[kobyz]

good signing for Denver Hickson at 5 million is great value, he is very good rebounder, energetic player with improving brain.

[ducks]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/8/4503126/2013-nba-free-agency-rumors-news
NBA free agency rumors roundup: Warriors discussing 3-way sign-and-trade for Andre Iguodala
The Warriors have already agreed to sign Andre Iguodala, but a sign-and-trade would help them keep more cap flexibility. Elsewhere, there's more news involving Jeff Teague, Brandon Jennings and Monta Ellis

[coyotes_geek]

stephen jackson getting any takers ?

I think his nba career is over TBH. If Pop couldn't keep him in line I don't see any other team thinking that their coach would be able to.

[Chinook]

It ends up being bad timing for Golden State. Besides having the MLE, a key to getting a sign-and-trade done was to allow them to keep their Bird Rights for Jack and their non-Bird Rights for Landry. But they already agreed with other teams. Had they been able to keep those two on board with the addition of Iggy, and whoever they can get with their MLE, they would have been able to build a pretty good second unit.

[Drom John]

What is Atlanta doing? They are trying to blow their cap space on two players they didn't need in Millsap and Ellis instead of just taking or looking for a suitable center and small-forward. They may as well have taken the deal Golden State struck with Utah.

Mike Muscala and Lucas Nogueria are least quality backups.

[Mel_13]

I t'd it up for someone :lol

Appreciated. :toast

[raybies]

I just don't get the signing of Andre Iguodala. They had a young nucleus with Curry, Thompson, and Barnes. That moves Barnes to the bench when he showed alot of potential. Like if we signed AI and put Kawhi to the bench. One would think that would hurt his development.

They basically salary dumped Richard Jefferson and Andris Biedrins, lost Jack and Landry, gave up 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders and are rumored to be giving the Jazz another second rounder in this proposed sign and trade, all for Andre Iguodala. I don't like it.

What's there roster look like now?

Curry/?
Thompson/?
Iguodala/ Barnes
Lee/ Greene
Bogut/ Ezeli

Does anyone think they got better?

[Chinook]

I just don't get the signing of Andre Iguodala. They had a young nucleus with Curry, Thompson, and Barnes. That moves Barnes to the bench when he showed alot of potential. Like if we signed AI and put Kawhi to the bench. One would think that would hurt his development.

They basically salary dumped Richard Jefferson and Andris Biedrins, lost Jack and Landry, gave up 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders and are rumored to be giving the Jazz another second rounder in this proposed sign and trade, all for Andre Iguodala. I don't like it.

What's there roster look like now?

Curry/?
Thompson/?
Iguodala/ Barnes
Lee/ Greene
Bogut/ Ezeli

Does anyone think they got better?

I think Iggy makes them better in a vacuum. He's better than Barnes and provides things (passing, driving, defense) that Golden State really needs in their starting lineup. That's not the same thing for the Spurs. Barnes also showed what he can do when given the ball in favorable match-ups. He'll get a lot more of those on the bench.

But the Warriors are worse after losing Jack and Landry. The whole point of the sign-and-trade was supposed to allow the Warriors to keep both while adding Iggy. But Denver held out long enough to torpedo Golden State's plan. Now, they only have the MLE, their picks and minimum salaries to rebuild their bench around Barnes and Ezeli.

[Chinook]

Mike Muscala and Lucas Nogueria are least quality backups.

Yeah, that's all well and good. I would have had no issue with the Hawks just trying to rebuild through the draft for at least one year. But they just used all their cap space to sign marginal All-Stars and redundant positions. That just seems weird to me.

[raybies]

I think Iggy makes them better in a vacuum. He's better than Barnes and provides things (passing, driving, defense) that Golden State really needs in their starting lineup. That's not the same thing for the Spurs. Barnes also showed what he can do when given the ball in favorable match-ups. He'll get a lot more of those on the bench.

But the Warriors are worse after losing Jack and Landry. The whole point of the sign-and-trade was supposed to allow the Warriors to keep both while adding Iggy. But Denver held out long enough to torpedo Golden State's plan. Now, they only have the MLE, their picks and minimum salaries to rebuild their bench around Barnes and Ezeli.

Who do you think they can afford that's remaining?

(Would't that be something if Jack backed out of the Cavs and went back. Unlikely but possible. It happens.)

[Samr.]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22683435/report-timberwolves-have-made-a-formal-offer-to-nikola-pekovic

Wolves extend offer of $48 mil/4 years to RFA Pek.

This "market value" deal for Splitter is looking better and better by the day.

[Chinook]

Who do you think they can afford that's remaining?

(Would't that be something if Jack backed out of the Cavs and went back. Unlikely but possible. It happens.)

Gary Neal? They drafted a point-guard to take Jack's position, but they need a scorer to replace Jack's production. Perhaps Draymon Green can get a full spot in the rotation, but if not, there is still Blair, who'd work well in that system. They can try to work out sign-and-trades with the Spurs for those two.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22683435/report-timberwolves-have-made-a-formal-offer-to-nikola-pekovic

Wolves extend offer of $48 mil/4 years to RFA Pek.

This "market value" deal for Splitter is looking better and better by the day.

Jefferson get 14 mil a year
Pekovic gets 12 mil a year

Splitter get 9 mil a year

Thing is, those the first two are better rebounders and post scorers, but they are not good PnR defenders or running the PnR on offense. Splitter was signed for Parker and Manu to run the PnR, which he is one the best in the league at doing it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cuban threw a 12 mil a year salary at Splitter after he struck out with Howard. Spurs got a good deal for Splitter. yes, he had a bad finals, but hopefully he improves his jumpshot this year. He improved his FT and defense over the offseason. He used to hit 15-18 ft jumpers in Spain. He needs to start knocking those down next season if teams are going to cram the post against the Spurs.

[raybies]

Gary Neal? They drafted a point-guard to take Jack's position, but they need a scorer to replace Jack's production. Perhaps Draymon Green can get a full spot in the rotation, but if not, there is still Blair, who'd work well in that system. They can try to work out sign-and-trades with the Spurs for those two.

Yah. If I remember correctly, they had interest in Blair earlier this year and for Neal he could absoulutely fill that role albeit the handles Jack had.

I'm interested to see how we handle Neals RFA. As of now I've only heard the Pistons being interested, but we ought to be able to extract something for Neal. Not bad for a undrafted signing from Europe.

[Chinook]

Yah. If I remember correctly, they had interest in Blair earlier this year and for Neal he could absoulutely fill that role albeit the handles Jack had.

I'm interested to see how we handle Neals RFA. As of now I've only heard the Pistons being interested, but we ought to be able to extract something for Neal. Not bad for a undrafted signing from Europe.

Too bad the Spurs couldn't get in on the Golden State salary dump and get Rush for Neal and Blair. Brandon would have been a good backup to Kawhi, and he's an expiring contract.

[DPG21920]

Scoring is always at a premium, especially for bigs. Al Jefferson is an elite scorer & PEK is a much more potent scorer as well. Still, Tiago, if he can continue to grow is a fair value.

[Mel_13]

Too bad the Spurs couldn't get in on the Golden State salary dump and get Rush for Neal and Blair. Brandon would have been a good backup to Kawhi, and he's an expiring contract.

You lost me. GS salary dumped Rush. Why would they take back salary for Neal/Blair?

[ElNono]

So Monta wants $12m/season?

It's not clear what the market is for Ellis at this point, but a league source confirmed to CBSSports.com on Monday that the Kings are investigating their options for moving Chuck Hayes and Jimmer Fredette to accommodate Ellis' desire for a contract starting at $12 million per year. It may be Ellis' last chance to recoup the money he opted out of in Milwaukee.

[Chinook]

You lost me. GS salary dumped Rush. Why would they take back salary for Neal/Blair?

They need to fill out their bench. They salary-dumped Rush since they already had two small-forwards in mind and Rush is too expensive to sit on the bench. They don't have a backup two-guard and backup four right now. They've managed to work out a sign-and-trade for Iguadola to free up their MLE. So clearly, the issue is no longer saving money.

[Mel_13]

They need to fill out their bench. They salary-dumped Rush since they already had two small-forwards in mind and Rush is too expensive to sit on the bench. They don't have a backup two-guard and backup four right now. They've managed to work out a sign-and-trade for Iguadola to free up their MLE. So clearly, the issue is no longer saving money.

Yeah, but at the time of the trade, they were clearing space for a straight FA signing.

[Chinook]

Yeah, but at the time of the trade, they were clearing space for a straight FA signing.

Yes, you're correct. And they were dumb for that. Denver played them pretty well by holding out on the sign-and-trade until after the Warriors were desperate. The Spurs could probably still get in on the trade, but it's not worth the actual asset/s they'd have to give up to get Rush now.

The Warriors could well use their trade exceptions to acquire Neal and Blair, but they don't really have anything to give anymore.

[Mel_13]

Yes, you're correct. And they were dumb for that. Denver played them pretty well by holding out on the sign-and-trade until after the Warriors were desperate. The Spurs could probably still get in on the trade, but it's not worth the actual asset/s they'd have to give up to get Rush now.

The Warriors could well use their trade exceptions to acquire Neal and Blair, but they don't really have anything to give anymore.

It will be interesting to see what GS does with those huge TE's.

[TheCerebral1]

Any news on CJ Leslie signing on to a summer league team?

[Mel_13]

Any news on CJ Leslie signing on to a summer league team?

http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2013/06/cj_leslie_most_recent_former_college_standout_to_j oin_knicks_summer_league_roster.html

[elemento]

Any news on CJ Leslie signing on to a summer league team?

Knicks Summer League

[CGD]

Pistons IIRC..

That's interesting. I's like a s&t with the Piston's to acquire Jeberko for Neal+Nando. Were did you see that?

Other than that, it's all mum on the Neal front by my count.

[Captivus]

http://www.lolception.com/lollibs/memeimgs/138451966.jpg?_cfgetx=img.rx:500;

[Kindergarten Cop]

That's interesting. I's like a s&t with the Piston's to acquire Jeberko for Neal+Nando. Were did you see that?

Other than that, it's all mum on the Neal front by my count.

Just speculation, considering that the Pistons were reportedly looking for a quality 3pt shooter.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2013/07/randy_foye_gary_neal_and_even.html

[SpursDynasty21]

Has any team signed Seth Curry onto a summer league team yet? I was surprised he went undrafted.

[CGD]

Just speculation, considering that the Pistons were reportedly looking for a quality 3pt shooter.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2013/07/randy_foye_gary_neal_and_even.html

Great, thanks.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Has any team signed Seth Curry onto a summer league team yet? I was surprised he went undrafted.

I don't believe he's been signed, but I read somewhere that Golden State was considered the most likeliest of destinations - considering the family ties.

[DesignatedT]

Has any team signed Seth Curry onto a summer league team yet? I was surprised he went undrafted.


I don't believe he's been signed, but I read somewhere that Golden State was considered the most likeliest of destinations - considering the family ties.


He's still recovering from shin surgery that he had in April. Unlikely he'll be ready to play during Summer League. He's going to have to make a team via training camp invite.

[Drom John]

Yeah, that's all well and good. I would have had no issue with the Hawks just trying to rebuild through the draft for at least one year. But they just used all their cap space to sign marginal All-Stars and redundant positions. That just seems weird to me.

Hmm, the Hawks are talking to Bynum. I don't see them outbidding the Mavericks.
Supposedly, the Hawks have at least had discussions about Asik.
Keeping Horford at center isn't optimal, but it isn't horrible.
I could see them beating the Nets in a 4/5 series, while training the kids, and having cap space in the near future.
As long as they avoid Ellis, it will more entertaining than the Josh Smith (and Joe Johnson) years.

[raybies]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine (http://www.spurstalk.com/ESPNSteinLine?p=s)
7m (http://www.spurstalk.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/354338724017999872?p=p)


RT @ramonashelburne (http://www.spurstalk.com/ramonashelburne): Kaman will get the Lakers mini midlevel exception, I'm told






That's a deal.

[DesignatedT]

Kaman blows.

[benefactor]

Kaman running up and down the floor in D'Antoni's offense?

lmao

[raybies]

What's D'Antoni doing there? Who knows maybe Kobe changes him.

[benefactor]

Amnesty of MWP is becoming more and more likely.

[SpursSerb]

Maybe Kirilenko wil sign for the Lakers some shitty one year contract?!

[monkeypunk]

Amnesty of MWP is becoming more and more likely.

So if they do, how much do the spurs have left to bid on him? Does that have to come out of cap space?

Not asking you specifically, just asking in general...

[benefactor]

Nah. The Lakers will tank. Kirilenko would only do that with a team he considered to be a contender...and even then I don't think he does it. He wants a multi-year deal.

[benefactor]

So if they do, how much do the spurs have left to bid on him? Does that have to come out of cap space?

Not asking you specifically, just asking in general...
No one knows the real numbers right now, but it doesn't really matter. There are very few teams that want MWP in their locker room. Wouldn't be surprising to see the Spurs being the only team wanting to bid...that is...if they do.

[Chinook]

Even if the Spurs can't bid (and they pretty much can't), they can sign World Peace for the minimum. That would be ideal anyway. Picking a player up on amnesty waivers is really only great if the player has multiple years left on his deal.

[monkeypunk]

Even if the Spurs can't bid (and they pretty much can't), they can sign World Peace for the minimum. That would be ideal anyway. Picking a player up on amnesty waivers is really only great if the player has multiple years left on his deal.

Thanks Chinook, if he does get amnestied and clears wavers, I think benefactor might be right.

I'd welcome Metta for the min, I think he's got his meds sorted and can give us a productive 10 -15 minutes of strong defense and post play.

[Baam]

MWP should play more than 15 min tbh... You don't get a veteran who was starting for a good team and make him a 10 minutes players, better not try to get him if that's the plan, that's asking for trouble...

[DPG21920]

Kaman blows.

Doesn't matter, 3M and only 1 year is an absolute steal. With guys like Zaza getting 5M per year for 3 years, how Kaman agreed to this is beyond me.

[monkeypunk]

MWP should play more than 15 min tbh... You don't get a veteran who was starting for a good team and make him a 10 minutes players, better not try to get him if that's the plan, that's asking for trouble...

I think at his age, it makes perfect sense to reduce his minutes. Make him a role player playing against teams' second units and he'll destroy.

[elec99]

Doesn't matter, 3M and only 1 year is an absolute steal. With guys like Zaza getting 5M per year for 3 years, how Kaman agreed to this is beyond me.

It's the weather. He's not doing it for the money or the Playoff prospects.

[Chinook]

Hmm, the Hawks are talking to Bynum. I don't see them outbidding the Mavericks.
Supposedly, the Hawks have at least had discussions about Asik.
Keeping Horford at center isn't optimal, but it isn't horrible.
I could see them beating the Nets in a 4/5 series, while training the kids, and having cap space in the near future.
As long as they avoid Ellis, it will more entertaining than the Josh Smith (and Joe Johnson) years.

I don't hate Horford at the five at all. But he's apparently unhappy there, and the team was going to spend money to find a center. They instead overpaid Millsap, who'd be a fine bench big, but who'll probably force Horford to stay at teh five. That would be fine with me, but if they overpay Ellis when they already have Williams, Teague (probably) and their new rookie, it just seems like wasted cap space. Atlanta's been a 4/5 seed long enough. They just need to tank.

[TheGoldStandard]

Doesn't matter, 3M and only 1 year is an absolute steal. With guys like Zaza getting 5M per year for 3 years, how Kaman agreed to this is beyond me.

Maybe no market for him. He didn't really have a stellar year last season. Hickson took 3/15. Not exactly a big payday there.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Hearing: Warriors closing in on free-agent deal with Marresse Speights. Details to come but one-year deal expected

[Baam]

That's a good signing for them, seems like they have too many SFs at this point, wonder if they will try to move Draymond Green...

[TheGoldStandard]

That's a good signing for them, seems like they have too many SFs at this point, wonder if they will try to move Draymond Green...

Stockpiling maybe to package with Bogut.

[Chinook]

Interesting use of the MLE there.

[Penya]

@MySportsLegion 3min
Breaking: Lakers will release and have used their amnesty clause on Metta World Peace.

[ace3g]

Would be funny considering his WCF pick: LAL vs HOU

[loveforthegame]

3 year deal for Speights according to Aldridge and Spears.

[Russ]

This is a nice compilation of FA info:

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2013/

[Strategic]

3M for a year and Kaman will have to live in Watts.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Cleveland pushing Andrew Bynum to accept deal worth possible $24M-plus -- or risk Cavs moving on.. tinyurl.com/mq3he2s (http://t.co/EoPYiDUuS6)

[Baam]

Damn that's a lot of money for a guy who is basically done, not sure why he isn't jumping on it...

[ace3g]

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)Bucks are 1 of 4 teams in mix for Gary Neal.

[DesignatedT]

Irving Jack
Waiters Miles
Clark? Gee?
Bennett Thompson
Bynum Varajeo

[DesignatedT]

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)Bucks are 1 of 4 teams in mix for Gary Neal.





Hmm. Milwaukee, Detroit, Dallas, Washington? Maybe Philly.

[monkeypunk]

Damn that's a lot of money for a guy who is basically done, not sure why he isn't jumping on it...

Cause he's a dumbass. :lol

Watch him SJax his way to the vet min with the Suns or somesuch...

[Libri]

Hmm. Milwaukee, Detroit, Dallas, Washington? Maybe Philly.

Maybe Nuggets.

[playblair]

Hmm. Milwaukee, Detroit, Dallas, Washington? Maybe Philly.

blazers bucks sixers pistons..................(nuggets)................ .......

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Will Bynum is staying in Detroit, according to his agent Mark Bartelstein

[ace3g]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
(http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt)Will Bynum's deal in Detroit is for two years, $5.75 million.

[Kindergarten Cop]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--cavs-make-andrew-bynum--24-million-offer-015715453.html

Bynum, 25, left Cleveland to travel to Atlanta to meet with Hawks officials, and Cleveland has begun to engage free agents Andrei Kirilenko and Elton Brand on possible one-year deals that would preclude the Cavaliers from the ability to sign Bynum, league sources said.

[Kindergarten Cop]

DP

[ducks]

cavs are not contender

[Kindergarten Cop]

cavs are not contender

I find it odd too. Unless of course, Cleveland makes him a one year offer considerably higher than the $10.2M he walked away from with the TWolves.

[freetiago]

Wolves just waived Steisma and Gelabale
also trying to trade Barea/Ridnour

wouldnt mind Barea as a backup PG tbh
bonus is hes already shit on the Heat before
Gelabale is also a possible backup SF who can be had cheap
even Steisma is a solid backup C with a jumpshot but we got Baynes so hes the bottom need

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)OFFICIAL: Detroit Pistons signed Italian Forward Gigi Datome



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[elec99]

wolves going from about 9 signed players to 7 after moving barea/ridnour, but then i'm sure they'll get players back from it.
jj barea is magical, no one knows how he's able to take people off the dribble and finish against 7 footers.

[ace3g]

Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling) 1m (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/354625727481651200) League source: The #Knicks (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks&src=hash) and Mickael Pietrus have talked further. He's back in the states in two weeks and will work out for teams then.

Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling) 21m (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/354620729079250946)
League source: The #Knicks (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks&src=hash) and Josh Childress have had discussions for a small forward role. Childress is open to $1.7 million or minimum.

[ducks]

Bynum, 25, left Cleveland to travel to Atlanta to meet with Hawks officials, and Cleveland has begun to engage free agents Andrei Kirilenko and Elton Brand on possible one-year deals that would preclude the Cavaliers from the ability to sign Bynum, league sources said.

Cleveland wants a team option on a second contract year to protect it against losing Bynum to 2014 free agency should his damaged knees heal enough to allow him to make a resurgence this season. The incentives of a possible Bynum contract could include minimal hurdles of completing training camp and reaching minutes and games-played plateaus in the regular season, league sources said.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Bynum, 25, left Cleveland to travel to Atlanta to meet with Hawks officials, and Cleveland has begun to engage free agents Andrei Kirilenko and Elton Brand on possible one-year deals that would preclude the Cavaliers from the ability to sign Bynum, league sources said.

Cleveland wants a team option on a second contract year to protect it against losing Bynum to 2014 free agency should his damaged knees heal enough to allow him to make a resurgence this season. The incentives of a possible Bynum contract could include minimal hurdles of completing training camp and reaching minutes and games-played plateaus in the regular season, league sources said.

That's directly from the article that I linked above that you responded with Cleveland's lack of contention.

[ducks]

sign and trade for ak47 NOW

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Detroit Pistons deal with Italian shooter Gigi Datome: two years, $3.5 million, source tells Y! Sports.

[apalisoc_9]

AK wants to play for a contender and a contract more than 2 years. Let's see if he can keep his words or get drown into the possible money the cavs offer him.

I like Barea and Glebale..

[monkeypunk]

AK wants to play for a contender and a contract more than 2 years. Let's see if he can keep his words or get drown into the possible money the cavs offer him.

Players always talk big but walk small so I expect him to take the biggest longest contract he can get, unfortch for us...

[look_at_g_shred]

Sign Neal...Get rid of Mills/ De Colo

[Bruno]

It looks like the market for Kirilenko isn't here. At that stage of the offseason, I guess he would accept a $16M/2 years contract from Spurs.
After that, the harder to do is to build a S&T that please Minny and possible a third and fourth team that will likely have to be included in that transaction.

[CGD]

It looks like the market for Kirilenko isn't here. At that stage of the offseason, I guess he would accept a $16M/2 years contract from Spurs.
After that, the harder to do is to build a S&T that please Minny and possible a third and fourth team that will likely have to be included in that transaction.

Do you think he can even fetch that? Looking more and more like AK overestimated his value, adn there is a reason why the AK camp is pushing for a S&T as opposed to Minni relinquishing his rights. At his age and given is desire for a long term deal, it seems like his value is more in the range of full MLE money tbh.

[CGD]

I'd call AK's bluff. He loses leverage the closer it gets to tomorrow, when Minni will relinquish his rights.

[apalisoc_9]

I'd call AK's bluff. He loses leverage the closer it gets to tomorrow, when Minni will relinquish his rights.

Can't for tomorrow tbh.

I predict we get a backup SF tomorrow.

[ace3g]

Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling) Source: Toney Douglas has accepted an offer from the Golden State Warriors.

[Bruno]

Do you think he can even fetch that? Looking more and more like AK overestimated his value, adn there is a reason why the AK camp is pushing for a S&T as opposed to Minni relinquishing his rights. At his age and given is desire for a long term deal, it seems like his value is more in the range of full MLE money tbh.

I don't think he could get a multiyear contract above the MLE without a S&T. He just doesn't make sense for teams with cap space. Cleveland is said to be after him if they don't get Bynum but they will offer him only an one year contract. Atlanta is maybe a possibility but just because they have done weird moves this summer.

I haven't looked at team that still have the full non taxpayer MLE but I guess there will be one offering it to Kirilenko which would give him $22M/4 years.

[Knoxxx]

Under the new CBA salaries will be lower and some will really feel that pinch. Do we have any real basis to think the Spurs would still be interested in AK though? To me he would be great for our second unit and when we just want to choke a team on defense, but my opinion means ZERO to Spurs FO of course.

[playblair]

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[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Jermaine O'Neal, I'm told, is bound for the Golden State Warriors

[Robz4000]

He's gonna fall apart within a month without the Suns' miracle workers.

[Sean Cagney]

Sign Neal...Get rid of Mills/ De Colo

Why with the others under contract would you sign Neal? Surely you can't just sign him and then dump the others! It's either Neal gone now or a trade, you can't just dump them.

[ace3g]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(http://twitter.com/sam_amick)Toney Douglas' deal with Golden State is for one year and $1.6 million, I'm told.

[TheCerebral1]

I really don't understand why people would rather have Neal than Mills/Colo. I'd rather have a back up PG who can handle the ball. Trade all of them and don't retread on Neal. :)

[look_at_g_shred]

Why with the others under contract would you sign Neal? Surely you can't just sign him and then dump the others! It's either Neal gone now or a trade, you can't just dump them.

I want to keep Neal even though we have Belinelli. He's instant offense off the bench. Just because I said I wanted to get rid of them doesn't mean I think the FO is going to do it , nor do I believe they can. Just a statement.

[playblair]

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[Robz4000]

Oh God

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS

(http://twitter.com/KBergCBS)The Bucks have agreed to trade Luc Richard Mbah a Moute to Sacramento for draft picks, league sources tell @CBSSports (http://twitter.com/CBSSports).

[monkeypunk]

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Another shooting guard?

Smh

[look_at_g_shred]

Something has to be brewing right??

[Vic Petro]

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[apalisoc_9]

Wow if we sign morrow and neal we'd have 9 guards in our rooster. :wow

[Chinook]

Odd pickup by Sacramento. They already have an undersized big who still manages to be a good defender. Mbah a Moute is a player who could excel in a defined role on a good team. In Sacramento, I expect him to continue his downhill slide.

[Vic Petro]

Surprised all it took was a future 2. Total dump by Milwaukee...

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[Chinook]

Surprised all it took was a future 2. Total dump by Milwaukee...

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Gives them another trade exception.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)The Orlando Magic and Hedo Turkoglu are progressing on contract buyout talks, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[Chinook]

^:lol

[xmas1997]

Wow if we sign morrow and neal we'd have 9 guards in our rooster. :wow


This is insane! What is going on in the minds of the Spurs FO?

[monkeypunk]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)The Orlando Magic and Hedo Turkoglu are progressing on contract buyout talks, league sources tell Y! Sports.


Don't even think about it Spurs...

[chrhawk]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)The Orlando Magic and Hedo Turkoglu are progressing on contract buyout talks, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Hedo Turkoglu thread in 3.....2.......1

[raybies]

Extra cap space for Milwaukee. With the signings of Mayo and Pachulia they had about 9 million in cap not counting Jennings and Giannis. If they amnesty Gordon and with this trade that frees up an extra 11 million. That leaves them roughly around 20 million to fill out the team. A big chunk of that goes to a PG, whether its Jennings or Teague and a small portion for Giannis at SF, leaving about 4-8 million in my estimation. Enough to sign someone like Neal to play the Reddick role or 6th man, if they are that high on him. (someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

[loveforthegame]

Freaking steal for the Kings. :tu

[bobcatfan4life]

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That's clearly a viable source

[TheGoldStandard]

Anthony Morrow? Wow, another shitty rumor. Spurs might be interested though, Pop really going all in on small ball.

[Sean Cagney]

Another shooting guard?

Smh

WTF? This makes no sense at all to have all these guards on the team. NONE. What is POP doing to do a 5 guard lineup?

[TheGoldStandard]

WTF? This makes no sense at all to have all these guards on the team. NONE. What is POP doing to do a 5 guard lineup?

He wants scorers in the game at all times, lol.. He's given them all the green light. Too bad none of them can dribble well

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Really bummed Spurs missed out on Mbah Moute

Damn

[ace3g]

Really bummed Spurs missed out on Mbah Moute

Damn

Yeah especially only for two 2nd round picks. I know he isn't the best shooter, but can play defense, and good small ball option.

[playblair]

That's clearly a viable source

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[bobcatfan4life]

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Better

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Yeah especially only for two 2nd round picks. I know he isn't the best shooter, but can play defense, and good small ball option.

Exactly

[ace3g]

Dirk Nowitzki @swish41
(http://twitter.com/swish41)We worked all summer to get DH to Dallas. Welcome back to the Mavs, Devin Harris....

[Baam]

^
:lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

Dirk Nowitzki @swish41
(http://twitter.com/swish41)We worked all summer to get DH to Dallas. Welcome back to the Mavs, Devin Harris....




Poor Dirk

[ace3g]

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)I thought for sure a Dalembert S&T was going down today. Will miss Sammy, a great humanitarian and fun guy.

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(http://twitter.com/EricPincus)Clippers waive DaJuan Summers

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Dirk Nowitzki @swish41
(http://twitter.com/swish41)We worked all summer to get DH to Dallas. Welcome back to the Mavs, Devin Harris....




That was a cold slap to the groin.

[Robz4000]

Spurs don't need Morrow. At all.

[bklynspursfan]

Clips going for Blair?

[benefactor]

Spurs don't need Morrow. At all.
For real...if they bring back Gary Neal they have eight fucking guards already.

[Hoops Czar]

They don't need Morrow because they'll sign MWP per Benefactor.

[Robz4000]

For real...if they bring back Gary Neal they have eight fucking guards already.

Either there's a trade in the works or we're about to see a level of microball never before fathomed.

[Knoxxx]

Either there's a trade in the works or we're about to see a level of microball never before fathomed.

Yes, obviously our roster makes no sense in current form...

[ohmwrecker]

Strange things afoot at the Circle K.

[yavozerb]

Either there's a trade in the works or we're about to see a level of microball never before fathomed.

Best small ball lineup ever that I can remember was GSW with don nelson. Starters were Baron Davis, Monta Ellis, Jason Richardson, Sjax, and Harrington.

[timvp]

Dirk Nowitzki @swish41
(http://twitter.com/swish41)We worked all summer to get DH to Dallas. Welcome back to the Mavs, Devin Harris....



If Dirk is being sarcastic, that might be the greatest tweet ever :lmao

[elemento]

Pretty sure Dirk was sarcastic.

He is awesome :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

I still don't get the Spurs plan. Stacking the team with guards is not really that great. And with that many of them you still can't tell who'll be the backup point. They also don't have a backup SF, but do have 6 bigs, from which one will make 4M and will be a benchwarmer. So far no improvements, only if some of you really think Marco Belinelli is better than Neal, which in reality he isn't.

[ohmwrecker]

If Dirk is being sarcastic, that might be the greatest tweet ever :lmao

I think the ellipsis might indicate some sarcasm.

[TheGoldStandard]

Strange things afoot at the Circle K.

Great reference

[TheGoldStandard]

If Dirk is being sarcastic, that might be the greatest tweet ever :lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

Either there's a trade in the works or we're about to see a level of microball never before fathomed.

Pop overthinking everything.

[chrhawk]

Either a trade is in the works or Pop is planning to store Ginobili in bubble-wrap until after the all-star break.

[Texas_Ranger]

just looked at the remaining SF free agents and after Kirinlenko and Corey Brewer it's pretty much shit. If someone looks decent it's Wesley Johnson, but he'll get more money somewhere else probably.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN has learned Houston Rockets just fined $150,000 for unauthorized public comments on Dwight Howard while NBA's annual moratorium ongoing

[playblair]

just looked at the remaining SF free agents and after Kirinlenko and Corey Brewer it's pretty much shit. If someone looks decent it's Wesley Johnson, but he'll get more money somewhere else probably.

Mickael Gelabale
Luke Babbitt

[pad300]

Proposal, S&T Mills for Nate Robinson
Ok, CHI see Nate's role as 3ed PG (behind Rose & Teague/Hinrich) - but he wants a) more money and b) a bigger role. So, would CHI consider a S&T for a 3ed PG?

SAS out Mills
CHI out Nate (S&T - vet min +20% salary, 2 years guaranteed)

It's not a lot of value for CHI, but I understand that Nate doesn't really want to be back (and they kind of owe him a solid after last year)... Mills is a good 3ed PG, and has no problems with a small minutes/bench role. Nate, meanwhile, gets 2 guaranteed years, a 20% raise, and a serious shot at the Spurs backup PG role - he has to beat out Cory Joseph, and he has the O to do it...

[coyotes_geek]

Proposal, S&T Mills for Nate Robinson
Ok, CHI see Nate's role as 3ed PG (behind Rose & Teague/Hinrich) - but he wants a) more money and b) a bigger role. So, would CHI consider a S&T for a 3ed PG?

SAS out Mills
CHI out Nate (S&T - vet min +20% salary, 2 years guaranteed)

It's not a lot of value for CHI, but I understand that Nate doesn't really want to be back (and they kind of owe him a solid after last year)... Mills is a good 3ed PG, and has no problems with a small minutes/bench role. Nate, meanwhile, gets 2 guaranteed years, a 20% raise, and a serious shot at the Spurs backup PG role - he has to beat out Cory Joseph, and he has the O to do it...

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's that Chicago doesn't want Nate on the team, they've just got the luxury tax to worry about.

[objective]

yeah, they're a tax team and already allocated their mini-mle to Dunleavy.

[Chinook]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's that Chicago doesn't want Nate on the team, they've just got the luxury tax to worry about.

It's both, according to a post Sham made in the middle of last season.

But anyway, I would not like that trade at all. No need to switch out a team player for a borderline team cancer when there were already numerous guards on the roster.

[DesignatedT]

This huge log jam and all these continued rumors about the guard position have me fairly convinced that something else is coming. Probably nothing big but somebody is going to be moved for something.

[coyotes_geek]

There's definitely a logjam in the backcourt that needs to be cleared.

Parker - Obviously not getting traded.
Manu - Obviously not getting traded.

Belinelli - Wouldn't be able to be traded until December 15th.
Neal or Morrow - Wouldn't be able to be traded until December 15th.

Joseph - Expendable, but limited trade value. Realistic trade options limited to a salary dump move, or included as part of a larger package.
Decolo - See Joseph.
Mills - See Decolo.

That leaves.........Danny Green. Trade value at an all time high, makes a large enough salary where he could be paired with someone out of the backup PG trio and traded for a player making a pretty hefty salary.

Just saying....

[Chinook]

There's definitely a logjam in the backcourt that needs to be cleared.

Parker - Obviously not getting traded.
Manu - Obviously not getting traded.

Belinelli - Wouldn't be able to be traded until December 15th.
Neal or Morrow - Wouldn't be able to be traded until December 15th.

Joseph - Expendable, but limited trade value. Realistic trade options limited to a salary dump move, or included as part of a larger package.
Decolo - See Joseph.
Mills - See Decolo.

That leaves.........Danny Green. Trade value at an all time high, makes a large enough salary where he could be paired with someone out of the backup PG trio and traded for a player making a pretty hefty salary.

Just saying....

Who do you suggest Green get traded for? Honestly, outside of Ginobili, none of the other guards on the roster can do half of what Green did (as far as things that matter to the starting lineup). Whatever the Spurs get back would have to offset the huge drop off that Green's departure would entail.

In my opinion, just get rid of De Colo and Mills and be done with it. Commit to Joseph as the backup point-guard and have Manu, Beli and Gary hold down the two and three.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Mavs free agent guard Anthony Morrow close to accepting deal with Pelicans, source tells Y! Sports

[DesignatedT]

Weren't the Spurs rumored to be rejecting offers for Joseph at the trade deadline last season?

[elec99]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Mavs free agent guard Anthony Morrow close to accepting deal with Pelicans, source tells Y! Sports




whew...good

[Chinook]

Weren't the Spurs rumored to be rejecting offers for Joseph at the trade deadline last season?

Yes, but only a salary dump to Toronto.

[TheCerebral1]

Proposal, S&T Mills for Nate Robinson
Ok, CHI see Nate's role as 3ed PG (behind Rose & Teague/Hinrich) - but he wants a) more money and b) a bigger role. So, would CHI consider a S&T for a 3ed PG?

SAS out Mills
CHI out Nate (S&T - vet min +20% salary, 2 years guaranteed)

It's not a lot of value for CHI, but I understand that Nate doesn't really want to be back (and they kind of owe him a solid after last year)... Mills is a good 3ed PG, and has no problems with a small minutes/bench role. Nate, meanwhile, gets 2 guaranteed years, a 20% raise, and a serious shot at the Spurs backup PG role - he has to beat out Cory Joseph, and he has the O to do it...

Just threw up in my mouth. God no. He's the definition of Anti-Spur. He's a slightly better version of Neal.

[elemento]

SA will go small. At this point it's pretty clear to me. If they really re-sign Neal, the 2nd unit goes with Neal/Beli/Manu . Beli could help with his playmaking skills if Manu and Neal struggle too much.

I don't have a problem with it, as long as Kawhi is healthy. Because if he gets hurt, SA is fucked.

Green played like shit at the 3 last season. Boris could be used as a 3 at times, but not as a full starter. Manu struggles to log more than 20 minutes/game these days.

If SAC can get a players like Moute with 2 2 rounders, why can't the Spurs get a decent backup SF for Leonard ? Especially considering his knee problems.

[LakerHater]

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[coyotes_geek]

Who do you suggest Green get traded for? Honestly, outside of Ginobili, none of the other guards on the roster can do half of what Green did (as far as things that matter to the starting lineup). Whatever the Spurs get back would have to offset the huge drop off that Green's departure would entail.

In my opinion, just get rid of De Colo and Mills and be done with it. Commit to Joseph as the backup point-guard and have Manu, Beli and Gary hold down the two and three.

I'm not suggesting the Spurs trade Green for anyone. I'd be shocked if they did. I'm just pointing out some relevant facts to keep in mind if the Spurs are going to try to thin out the backcourt via the trade route. All this assuming of course that the Spurs do indeed re-sign Neal in a non-S&T move. Saw that Morrow went off the board after my previous post.

Just to stir the pot though, :stirpot:, a Green/Decolo swap for AK would allow the Spurs to offer AK a deal starting at $8mil.......
(no, I'm not saying this is going to happen)

[spursince#99]

Either a trade is in the works or Pop is planning to store Ginobili in bubble-wrap until after the all-star break.


I say bubble-wrap.

[pad300]

He's a slightly better version of Neal.

That's kind of the point - Pop likes back up PG's like that - remorseless gunners. Robinson's a better passer and ball-handler than Neal...he'd be a serious upgrade, and would provide competition for Joseph at the backup PG.

[Knoxxx]

I'm not suggesting the Spurs trade Green for anyone. I'd be shocked if they did. I'm just pointing out some relevant facts to keep in mind if the Spurs are going to try to thin out the backcourt via the trade route. All this assuming of course that the Spurs do indeed re-sign Neal in a non-S&T move. Saw that Morrow went off the board after my previous post.

Just to stir the pot though, :stirpot:, a Green/Decolo swap for AK would allow the Spurs to offer AK a deal starting at $8mil.......
(no, I'm not saying this is going to happen)

Clearly Mills De Colo Bonner have been expendable all along. Belli signing makes either Neal or Green expendable also. The question then becomes who are the takers and clearly we'd rather keep Green than Neal. However, AK 47 + Belli addition would make any combo of subtraction of mentioned players tolerable.

[yavozerb]

Wonder if a player like Evan Turner is on the market? Have always liked his game but not sure if he could backup the 3 spot and philly has been making alot of moves this summer. just a thought

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Hearing: Newly minted unrestricted free agent Tyler Hansbrough is in serious talks w/Toronto and moving closing to deal terms w/Raptors

[Chinook]

I'm not suggesting the Spurs trade Green for anyone. I'd be shocked if they did. I'm just pointing out some relevant facts to keep in mind if the Spurs are going to try to thin out the backcourt via the trade route. All this assuming of course that the Spurs do indeed re-sign Neal in a non-S&T move. Saw that Morrow went off the board after my previous post.

Just to stir the pot though, :stirpot:, a Green/Decolo swap for AK would allow the Spurs to offer AK a deal starting at $8mil.......
(no, I'm not saying this is going to happen)

I wouldn't trade Green for Kirilenko straight up. I certainly wouldn't add De Colo for the priviilege of paying AK that much money.

[Chinook]

Wonder if a player like Evan Turner is on the market? Have always liked his game but not sure if he could backup the 3 spot and philly has been making alot of moves this summer. just a thought

I'd've been more interested a couple of seasons ago. But Turner is on an expensive expiring contract, which is totally not what you want to see in a backup whom you hope to develop. I'd much rather throw what I could at Derrick Williams to play the 3/4 than I would to get Turner to play the 2/3.

[TheGoldStandard]

SA will go small. At this point it's pretty clear to me. If they really re-sign Neal, the 2nd unit goes with Neal/Beli/Manu . Beli could help with his playmaking skills if Manu and Neal struggle too much.

I don't have a problem with it, as long as Kawhi is healthy. Because if he gets hurt, SA is fucked.

Green played like shit at the 3 last season. Boris could be used as a 3 at times, but not as a full starter. Manu struggles to log more than 20 minutes/game these days.

If SAC can get a players like Moute with 2 2 rounders, why can't the Spurs get a decent backup SF for Leonard ? Especially considering his knee problems.

That line up reaks in the playoff basketball.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs won't be doing anything but if they resign Neal I wouldn't put it past them to have him running PG. Committee ball at the PG/SF position next season.

[stephen jackson]

Hedos gunna get bought out..Hedo back As a back up I like it shooter/creator

[monkeypunk]

Hedos gunna get bought out..Hedo back As a back up I like it shooter/creator

Turkeyglue's yearlong shooting slumps can suck it, no thanks!!

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd've been more interested a couple of seasons ago. But Turner is on an expensive expiring contract, which is totally not what you want to see in a backup whom you hope to develop. I'd much rather throw what I could at Derrick Williams to play the 3/4 than I would to get Turner to play the 2/3.

I've commented before on how much I'd love Derrick Williams in the system. Very underrated given his role with TWolves.

[yavozerb]

And minny would give up D wil for what again? not gonna happen

[Chinook]

And minny would give up D wil for what again? not gonna happen

They've been trying to give him up for anything for three off-seasons now. For some reason, they just don't like him. He's also not a long-term fit given the players they now have.

That's not the case with Turner, as the 76ers traded away Iguadola in part to move Evans to his natural position.

[TheGoldStandard]

They've been trying to give him up for anything for three off-seasons now. For some reason, they just don't like him. He's also not a long-term fit given the players they now have.

That's not the case with Turner, as the 76ers traded away Iguadola in part to move Evans to his natural position.

Expiring deals, Mills/De Colo/Bonner

[yavozerb]

They've been trying to give him up for anything for three off-seasons now. For some reason, they just don't like him. He's also not a long-term fit given the players they now have.

That's not the case with Turner, as the 76ers traded away Iguadola in part to move Evans to his natural position.

At this point I believe williams has much more value than Turner. I also would like williams on the spurs, but spurs do not have enough in my opinio to get him. Then again, we are talking about the t wolves

[TheGoldStandard]

Matt Bonner would fit perfectly in Minnesota

[Chinook]

At this point I believe williams has much more value than Turner. I also would like williams on the spurs, but spurs do not have enough in my opinio to get him. Then again, we are talking about the t wolves

I think he does, too, at least in a vacuum, if only because of him having another year on his deal. But the 76ers haven't given much indication recently about wanting to move him, while the Wolves just tried to move Williams two weeks ago. Turner has a defined role on the team, while Williams had to fight to get playing time even after Love got injured. With the 76ers rebuilidng, I think they'll give Turner every chance to show he can be part of their future. If Minnesota can get a solid vet or two back for Williams, I think Adelman will encourage them to pull the trigger.

Add to that the fact that Williams actually fills an exact area or need (combo-forward) as opposed to playing a role which several candidates to fill it, albeit not as well (swingman), and you can see why I'd rather have Williams. That doesn't make him the easier target to get, but I would definitely make him the priority if I wanted to trade for Leonard's backup. Rather than trade for Turner, I'd rather sign Wes Johnson, anyway.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Chris Andersen will sign a one-year deal to return to the Heat, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Brad Turner @BA_Turner
(http://twitter.com/BA_Turner)Clippers renounced rights to Lamar Odom, Chauncey Billups. Clippers still interested in signing Odom to a deal, sources

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Raptors have agreed to terms with free agent forward Tyler Hansbrough, source tells Y! Sports.

[Chinook]

I like Hansbrough. Solid signing for a team that really needed another big.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Hearing: Wolves still chasing Corey Brewer, trying hard to trade Luke Ridnour to create more spending room or sell Denver on sign-and-trade

[ace3g]

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
(http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN)After discussing it, Warriors & Cavs will not do a sign-and-trade involving Jarrett Jack & Marreese Speights. Each will sign outright.

[ace3g]

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)There is increasing chatter Bucks will make major push for Jeff Teague.

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)I'm hearing if Bucks can secure Teague, Jennings will be allowed to walk.

[Chinook]

God, the Wolves are stupid...

[TheGoldStandard]

God, the Wolves are stupid...
which leads to the belief they'd take a tomato can for Williams.

[look_at_g_shred]

which leads to the belief they'd take a tomato can for Williams.

Would be cool if Bonner + De Colo + future 2nd round pick could do the trick.

[TheGoldStandard]

Would be cool if Bonner + De Colo + future 2nd round pick could do the trick.

I'd pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat but prying Bonner out of Pop's hand is going to be difficult. Bonner might have a no trade clause in his contract.

[Chinook]

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)There is increasing chatter Bucks will make major push for Jeff Teague.

Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)I'm hearing if Bucks can secure Teague, Jennings will be allowed to walk.'

Milwaukee wants Teague; Atlanta wants Jennings. Surely there can be a deal between those teams...

[cd98]

Funny cause wolves had Brewer once upon a time.

[Chinook]

I'd pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat but prying Bonner out of Pop's hand is going to be difficult. Bonner might have a no trade clause in his contract.

On the off chance that this isn't a joke, he doesn't. However, he can negotiate on into his contract with the Spurs if they re-sign him next off-season.

[TheGoldStandard]

On the off chance that this isn't a joke, he doesn't. However, he can negotiate on into his contract with the Spurs if they re-sign him next off-season.

Was a joke but I wouldn't put it past Pop to suggest it to Bonner. He's been collecting a paycheck for 14 minutes a game during the regular season with no upside but to take up a roster spot in the playoffs.

[fleggy2k2]

Anthony Morrow officially signs with Pelicans

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22699620/report-anthony-morrow-agrees-to-twoyear-deal-with-pelicans (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22699620/report-anthony-morrow-agrees-to-twoyear-deal-with-pelicans)

sigh of relief tbh

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Dallas has reached agreement on a two-year, $5-million plus deal with free agent guard Wayne Ellington, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[Knoxxx]

The spurs have $57 million in committed salary. Thinking big picture, they will look to add up to $13 million more to take payroll up to $70 million luxury tax limit. Sign and trades would be most likely tool to do so.

[loveforthegame]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Dallas has reached agreement on a two-year, $5-million plus deal with free agent guard Wayne Ellington, league sources tell Y! Sports.


Nice deal for Dallas.

[Sean Cagney]

Nice deal for Dallas.Forget Dallas man lol, I don't want any nice deals for that team.....

[look_at_g_shred]

It's now official to sign on the dotted line

[bluebellmaniac]

The spurs have $57 million in committed salary. Thinking big picture, they will look to add up to $13 million more to take payroll up to $70 million luxury tax limit. Sign and trades would be most likely tool to do so.

Had the FO traded SJ last season, then we'd have a shot at having the team salary around $70M, but getting it that high now is pretty undoable I would think.

[Knoxxx]

Had the FO traded SJ last season, then we'd have a shot at having the team salary around $70M, but getting it that high now is pretty undoable I would think.

I thought we still had the SJax contract as a trade asset. Not sure what that meant, but my guess is we could plug it into a deal to make salaries work, but the receiving team would then not have to take back any salary. This concept was posted/alluded to (the contract as an asset) a while back, but I never heard much discussion since then so not sure how legit the idea is/was or not.

[ace3g]

Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
(http://twitter.com/JaredZwerling)#Knicks (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks) officially announce the re-signing of Pablo Prigioni.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Hearing Pelicans have moved into pole position to land freshly minted free-agent center Greg Stiemsma. More than 10 teams interested

[xmas1997]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Hearing Pelicans have moved into pole position to land freshly minted free-agent center Greg Stiemsma. More than 10 teams interested





No doubt the Spurs are one of them even though they aren't looking for a C.

[milkyway21]

Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
(http://twitter.com/JaredZwerling)#Knicks (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks) officially announce the re-signing of Pablo Prigioni.




Speaking of NY Knicks, rumors are Anthony might not sign extension with NY due to they didn't try to pursue Rondo?

Wonder where he'll end up next...Join Kobe?

[ace3g]

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell) 4m (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/354978101610033153) Pelicans have waived Lance Thomas.

[ace3g]

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt
(http://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt)Big man Greg Stiemsma will sign with the New Orleans Pelicans today, his agent Mark Bartelstein said.


Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(http://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Stiemsma's deal with New Orleans is for one year at $2.7 million, league source says. Pelicans quietly building an interesting squad.

[ace3g]

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard
(http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard)Monta Ellis has parted ways with longtime agent Jeff Fried. Industry sources expect Ellis to sign with Dan Fegan.

[ducks]

intersting this late in the game
and dan fegan is a spur hater

[ducks]

http://sportspyder.com/teams/minnesota-timberwolves/tweeter_types/3/tweets

[ace3g]

PELICANS RENOUNCE RIGHTS TO LOUIS AMUNDSON,
XAVIER HENRY AND ROGER MASON, JR.

http://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/pelicans-renounce-rights-louis-amundson-xavier-henry-and-roger-mason-jr

[Robz4000]

RMJ coming back to the Spurs. Book it.

[rjv]

i remember when henry was a stud at kansas.

[Samr.]

i remember when henry was a stud at kansas.

No good FA endorsement begins with "I remember when..."

[bklynspursfan]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)49s (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/355016389662228481)
Hearing: Wolves closing in on three-year deal with coveted swingman Corey Brewer in $15 million range

[ChumpDumper]

Amundson and Thomas -- a couple of minimum contract small ball PFs.

[LakerHater]

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[Sean Cagney]

RMJ coming back to the Spurs. Book it.

I WILL LITERALLY CRY.

[LakerHater]

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[monkeypunk]

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At least BucketsOfCashOvitch isn't throwing money at AK too.

Projected to pay 70ish mil in luxtax next year, whats another contract to someone like that?

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)With Bogdanovic staying overseas, free agent Alan Anderson is an emerging consideration for Nets back-up small forward spot, sources tell Y!

[LakerHater]

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