2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[Mel_13]

If GSW can hold on to Klay Thompson, Steph Curry, and Harrison Barnes/Jarret Jack, then that will be enough to entice Dwight Howard to sign with the Warriors IMO.

Probably would.

Problem is that they won't be able to dump RJ and Biedrins without including at least two of Curry/Thompson/Barnes and the Lakers won't even talk about a S&T that doesn't include Curry, IMO.

[TheGreatYacht]

Reports: Jefferson, Bobcats agree to $40.5M deal http://www.nba.com/2013/news/07/04/jefferson-bobcats-deal.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

[cd021]

Probably would.

Problem is that they won't be able to dump RJ and Biedrins without including at least two of Curry/Thompson/Barnes and the Lakers won't even talk about a S&T that doesn't include Curry, IMO.

Yeah their stuck with RJ & Bedrins unless they give up Curry and Barnes/Thompson + a 1st rounder. They'd keep flexibility for the next off season. Curry is on a great contract (something the Lakers don't have). Barnes or Thompson are going to be studs and the Lakers don't have may 1st rounders (because of the Nash and Howard trades) They get an extra pick in a deep draft. If they are mediocre then they can get an mid teens pick and possibly package that pick with GSWs for a higher pick.

IMO they'd be insane not to pull the trigger on a Curry, RJ/Biedrins, Barnes/ Thompson & a 1st rounder for Howard. I'd force the issue and make them take on MWP too. They a big head start on a rebuild and can still have a ton of cap space next season.

[NickiRasgo]

Why the Warriors would trade Curry? Curry is also the one who talked with DH12.

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[manufan10]

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[spursince#99]

If Dwight somehow does go to GSW they're automatically favorites. Post man demanding a double with incredible shooters? Lights out, tbh.

[Chinook]

If I were the Hawks, and I could get a good asset from Golden State, I'd totally be willing to take Bogut's deal. That preserves cap space while giving them a year to see how Horford pans out at the four.

[coyotes_geek]

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Translation: "Someone with the Warriors hoping to scare the lakers into an S&T told me............"

[coyotes_geek]

I could see the warriors finding someone to just take on Bogut's deal. But no F'n way is anyone taking on Biedrins and RJ.

[Obstructed_View]

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Bluff

[Chinook]

I could see the warriors finding someone to just take on Bogut's deal. But no F'n way is anyone taking on Biedrins and RJ.

I think someone would take Bogut's deal for just a pick, as he's useful, and someone has to fill the five spot after losing the Howard sweepstakes.

Biedrins would require moving a player like Barnes. I could see Cleveland doing that, as they still need a small-forward and have the money to spare.

[SpursRock20]

If Dwight somehow does go to GSW they're automatically favorites. Post man demanding a double with incredible shooters? Lights out, tbh.

They would be tough. But I would never double Dwight. That's the way to play him, seeing as how he has never developed a post game.

[coyotes_geek]

I think someone would take Bogut's deal for just a pick, as he's useful, and someone has to fill the five spot after losing the Howard sweepstakes.

Biedrins would require moving a player like Barnes. I could see Cleveland doing that, as they still need a small-forward and have the money to spare.

That still leaves RJ who would also need to be moved and also need to be packaged with a player like Barnes. Suddenly Klay Thompson needs to become a part of the salary dump. Are the W's willing to go that far? If they are, does Dwight think there's still enough left to compete? Seems like a smokescreen to me. They're just trying to pressure the lakers into talking S&T.

[Robz4000]

If Dwight somehow does go to GSW they're automatically favorites. Post man demanding a double with incredible shooters? Lights out, tbh.

Fuck no. They'd be in the Clippers/OKC/SA league but be the fourth best out of them. They have an incompetent coach and the only ridiculous shooter they have/will have should they aquire Howard would be Curry (Thompson would likely have to be moved to make room). The Spurs and OKC have the defenders to cover Howard one-on-one most of the time and players the Dubs would have trouble stopping (Durant and Westbrook, Parker and Leonard).

[SpurPadre]

Sorry if this has been covered already, but if Bonner is amnestied and Blair signs elsewhere, what do we do for another back-up big?

[Texas_Ranger]

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[Robz4000]

:lol

[spursince#99]

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This is a joke. :lol

[ElNono]

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lol vecsey

[Rogue]

Neal and Blair are the spurs that I've always wanted to have on my squad, and them niggas combined wouldn't cost more than 7m/yr hopefully. I'd rather we go after such cheap guys with better potential than those overrated "star" players like Josh Smith or Iggy tbh. Neal would be the new JET for us while Blair would be a decent backup for Dirk.

[ironman2886]

If the Warriors had teams interested in taking on salaries of Bogut, RJ, and Biedrins, it would have been done by now. That means Dwight told the Warriors he wanted to pick them. These are bluffs. Warriors are praying to God that the Lakers change their minds about a S&T. It's the only realistic way of getting Howard.

[ElNono]

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

[Chinook]

That still leaves RJ who would also need to be moved and also need to be packaged with a player like Barnes. Suddenly Klay Thompson needs to become a part of the salary dump. Are the W's willing to go that far? If they are, does Dwight think there's still enough left to compete? Seems like a smokescreen to me. They're just trying to pressure the lakers into talking S&T.

If they can move Jefferson and Bogut, they could create a trade exception big enough to entice the Lakers. As far as I understand Los Angeles' reluctance to do a sign-and-trade comes from their unwillingness to take salary. If they don't have to, then they probably would be fine with taking back assets and a large trade exception.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

Neal and Blair are the spurs that I've always wanted to have on my squad, and them niggas combined wouldn't cost more than 7m/yr hopefully. I'd rather we go after such cheap guys with better potential than those overrated "star" players like Josh Smith or Iggy tbh. Neal would be the new JET for us while Blair would be a decent backup for Dirk.

Hope you're drunk. Want a cup of coffee?

[kobyz]

Look like D12 is on the way to the Warriors, and that lakers again walking out as a winner, getting Harrison Barnes and stuff instead of nothing...

[TheGreatYacht]

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[velik_m]

Kind of obvious that Calderon wants to go to a winning team. Why not come play for the Spurs? We desperately need a backup PG to Tony Parker. Before we signed Belinelli, he would have probably made the same amount of money with us than what he would make with the Laker$ or DH12's new team. Either he wants to be a starter or it's the usual "free agents have no interest in San Antonio."

Or the Spurs have zero interest in PG that doesn't play even a little defense?

[TheGreatYacht]

Or the Spurs have zero interest in PG that doesn't play even a little defense?I know but he's a terrific shooter and a pass first point guard, much like TJ Ford. Jose Calderon has Spurs DNA IMO. He is international too. Oh well, too bad I won't see him in a Spurs jersey.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

I know but he's a terrific shooter and a pass first point guard, much like TJ Ford. Jose Calderon has Spurs DNA IMO. He is international too. Oh well, too bad I won't see him in a Spurs jersey.

If they are non-american, sign 'em?

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just added to ESPN's latest Dwight story: Sources say Warriors and Jazz have opened talks on trade that would send Andrew Bogut to Jazz

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Jazz have expressed strongest interest to date in Bogut, sources say. No surprise after Al Jefferson's departure and Bogut's college ties

[AFBlue]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just added to ESPN's latest Dwight story: Sources say Warriors and Jazz have opened talks on trade that would send Andrew Bogut to Jazz

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Jazz have expressed strongest interest to date in Bogut, sources say. No surprise after Al Jefferson's departure and Bogut's college ties







That would be the easy one tbh. He played a big role in their playoff run this year and proved he's still valuable when healthy. RJ and Beidrins...I just don't see anyone taking on those contracts without significant incentive.

[Baam]

Warriors are the perfect team for Dwight and they have probably the only coach in the league that can relate to him.

That team gonna be scary is Curry can stay healthy.

[yavozerb]

That would be the easy one tbh. He played a big role in their playoff run this year and proved he's still valuable when healthy. RJ and Beidrins...I just don't see anyone taking on those contracts without significant incentive.

If GSW can entice some team to take both those contracts it could cost them Barnes and maybe even Thompson also.

[Baam]

If GSW can entice some team to take both those contracts it could cost them Barnes and maybe even Thompson also.

I think only one of them, plenty of teams are tanking for Wiggins right now and wouldn't mind one year of RJeff for a young asset.

[coachmac87]

Spurs should call Warriors..I'd take back RJ if they gave us Barnes lol

[Baam]

We don't have the capspace.

[TheGoldStandard]

There are plenty of stupid GMs that are willing to help LA out to give them young pieces. They're expiring contracts that they can use next season not only to go in for Wiggins but then have cap space to bring over FA's that they're all looking to land next year. I really hope that doesn't happen though because as much of a prima donna that Dwight is, he'd be a monster with the Warriors. They don't want to run n gun and the fact that Curry and Thompson have a stroke that can easily be an easy dump into Dwight down low they have a 1-2 punch that will be hard to guard. Can't send 2 or 3 people at him with real perimeter shooters. Doubt this deal happens though, more than likely Houston bound.

[CGD]

It would be interesting to trade for Beidren's contract if there were two firsts attached to it.

[picnroll]

Atlanta should suck up Biedrins contract in exchange for Barnes.

[I. Hustle]

Even though we signed Marco, can we still land Dwight? I think that if the Spurs amnesty bonner, don't pick up Neal and do a sign and trade using Patty, Baynes and maybe DeColo that we can still get D12. What are your thoughts?

[MeloHype]

Dwight will sign the vet min. Imo

[RD2191]

Even though we signed Marco, can we still land Dwight? I think that if the Spurs amnesty bonner, don't pick up Neal and do a sign and trade using Patty, Baynes and maybe DeColo that we can still get D12. What are your thoughts?

:wakeup

[milkyway21]

Al Jefferson is now off the market... will sign with Bobcats?

[elemento]

It's a done deal

3y/41m

[TheGreatYacht]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just added to ESPN's latest Dwight story: Sources say Warriors and Jazz have opened talks on trade that would send Andrew Bogut to Jazz

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Jazz have expressed strongest interest to date in Bogut, sources say. No surprise after Al Jefferson's departure and Bogut's college ties





What would suc* for GSW is if they make all these player movements like getting rid of Andrew Bogut and Harrison Barnes then at the end of the day, Dwight Howard chooses to stay in LA or go to the Houston. Bogut and Barnes were an integral part of GSW last year. That would suc* balls for them if they end up short in landing DH12. Would they sign Josh Smith then? Over pay him?

[elemento]

It's a done deal

3y/41m

PS: msg to milkyway21 btw

[Jdspur20]

Even though we signed Marco, can we still land Dwight? I think that if the Spurs amnesty bonner, don't pick up Neal and do a sign and trade using Patty, Baynes and maybe DeColo that we can still get D12. What are your thoughts?

No.

[ducks]

Klay Thompson can be shut down but if the team is deep enough they can not stop everyone

[Mugen]

Thompson or Barnes/Bogut/1st Rounders/filler for Howard is a great deal for both teams tbh.

[itzsoweezee]

Bogut to Utah makes no sense. They had too many players in their front court last year, now they want to reproduce that problem?

[racm]

Bogut to Utah makes no sense. They had too many players in their front court last year, now they want to reproduce that problem?

Guess they don't trust Kanter enough yet. Bogut's only good for 50-60 games at most in the RS.

[Mel_13]

Bogut to Utah makes no sense. They had too many players in their front court last year, now they want to reproduce that problem?

Jefferson has signed with the Bobcats.

Millsap is a FA.

Expiring contract.

Went to college in Utah.

Correct pigmentation for fan base.

Makes perfect sense.

[Mugen]

Jefferson has signed with the Bobcats.

Millsap is a FA.

Expiring contract.

Went to college in Utah.

Correct pigmentation for fan base.

Makes perfect sense.

:lol

[ducks]

Dwight Howard may announce a decision Friday. But Howard is not good with big decisions so it may be over the weekend. Or early next week. Or July 10.

What is Howard thinking as he sits in Aspen with his advisors? Depends on who you ask.

These two tweets from connected NBA people pretty much sum up the Dwight Howard
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/05/howard-may-decide-today-lakers-not-optimistic-but-reports-all-over-the-map/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
So the Lakers are prominent or Kobe Bryant pissed Howard off. Or both. But a report from ESPN that as time moves on the Lakers are growing pessimistic about their chances and think they could be fourth in the running. So they are finally admitting they might consider sign-and-trades.

The Rockets all along have been the one team consistently mentioned, although if they want to sign Howard to a max deal they still have some salary cap work to do.

The Warriors remain in the picture and they are trying to shed salary so they can just sign Howard outright… except they are not doing that just for Howard, reports Ken Berger at CBSSports.com.

One person briefed on Golden State’s cap-clearing efforts told CBSSports.com that the team is intent on clearing room regardless of Howard’s decision. If Howard says no to Golden State, the Warriors are expected to use the room — if successful in moving contracts — to chase another max-level free agent such as Denver forward Andre Iguodala, the person said.
You count out Mark Cuban and the Mavs at your own risk, even though they may have faded in the discussion.

All of which is to say… it’s Dwight Howard. The guy who wants to make everyone happy and hates to disappoint people could go a lot of different directions when it’s time to make an announcement. Let’s politely call the situation fluid.

[LakerHater]

Now Dwight Is Sayn That He'll Announce This Weekend!
The Only Thng hes Announced Is That He's An Asshole!

[freetiago]

The New Orleans Pelicans have agreed upon a three-way trade to acquire Tyreke Evans in a sign-and-trade.

Evans will sign a four-year, $44 million contract.

The Sacramento Kings will acquire Greivis Vasquez, while Robin Lopez will go to the Portland Trail Blazers.

The Blazers will send cash and future draft considerations.

Lopez has two seasons and $11 million remaining on his contra


looks like Portland got the final piece to shit on the Spurs for the next decade
Batum= spur killer
Aldridge = spur killer
Lopez= Tiago killer
Lillard is a guard who can shoot mid range or 3s coming of the pick and roll which SA cant guard

[Mugen]

^Only killer associated with Portland is "career killer" tbh.

[LakerHater]

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[Baam]

The New Orleans Pelicans have agreed upon a three-way trade to acquire Tyreke Evans in a sign-and-trade.

Evans will sign a four-year, $44 million contract.

The Sacramento Kings will acquire Greivis Vasquez, while Robin Lopez will go to the Portland Trail Blazers.

The Blazers will send cash and future draft considerations.

Lopez has two seasons and $11 million remaining on his contra


looks like Portland got the final piece to shit on the Spurs for the next decade
Batum= spur killer
Aldridge = spur killer
Lopez= Tiago killer
Lillard is a guard who can shoot mid range or 3s coming of the pick and roll which SA cant guard

CJ McCollum is gonna be very good as well.

[manufan10]

For a guy who has said that he "doesn't" want this to drag out sure is dragging this out. If he's already made a decision then announce it. Geez.

[racm]

I'm more afraid of the Phoenix backcourt than Portland tbh. Bledsoe AND Dragic?

By the time the Blazers hit their stride we'll be rebuilding and giving Kawhi 25 shots a game on top of a fat extension.

[manufan10]

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[Darkwaters]

Richard Jefferson on the move again?

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[Robz4000]

God dammit Utah, the fuck are you doing?

[Duncanonu]

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Bag of Doritos?

[elemento]

WOW to get both RJ and Biedrins they've got to get something good. Bogut + Barnes or Klay at least.

[Mel_13]

If GSW is able to unload RJ and Biedrins without including Barnes and/or Thompson, then the entire Utah FO should be fired.

[elemento]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)1 min (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/353241772052324352)
Andre Igoudala has reached agreement with Golden State on a four year, $48 million deal with the Warriors, league source tells Y! Sports.

WOW this is crazy

[Darkwaters]

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Welcome to Salt Lake City! You'll fit right in!

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[Robz4000]

If GSW is able to unload RJ and Biedrins without including Barnes and/or Thompson, then the entire Utah FO should be fired.

[manufan10]

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[Bruno]

Wow. We will see the whole deal but Utah is taking a lot of salaries linked with crappy players.

[Robz4000]

Wow, Golden State just raped the NBA.

[manufan10]

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[Mel_13]

On second thought.

Just looked at Utah's payroll. They're about 20M below the floor. If they want to tank for Wiggins, taking on RJ and Biedrins with a couple of draft picks might actually make sense.

[manufan10]

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[Darkwaters]

On second thought.

Just looked at Utah's payroll. They're about 20M below the floor. If they want to tank for Wiggins, taking on RJ and Biedrins with a couple of draft picks might actually make sense.

Strong assessment I'd say.

Suck for Luck indeed.

[LakerHater]

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Bet Houston Feels Stupid Right Abt Now!

[LakerHater]

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Bet Houston Feels Stupid Right Abt Now!

[Bruno]

It's possible that this trade removes Utah ability to keep Millsap which would be huge for Spurs.

[manufan10]

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[coyotes_geek]

Pretty sweet maneuvering by the Warriors.

[King]

So, GSW has Iggy, Barnes, Draymond Green and Klay. Who plays where?

[loveforthegame]

Got damn. Great job GS. :tu

[coyotes_geek]

So, GSW has Iggy, Barnes, Draymond Green and Klay. Who plays where?

We may not know yet if they still have Barnes, Green & Klay. One would think Utah would want at least one of those guys to take all that dead weight off the Warriors hands for them.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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There's a bit of a jam at the 2/3, so if this is true, then who else could they sign or trade for besides Dwight?

[manufan10]

There's a bit of a jam at the 2/3, so if this is true, then who else could they sign or trade for besides Dwight?

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[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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I understand that Dwight is still a possibility, but if that doesn't go through then they're overloaded at the swingman spot.

[Mel_13]

Pretty sweet maneuvering by the Warriors.

Jerry West.

When he left the Lakers in 2002, they were 3 time defending champs with a prime Kobe, a prime Shaq, and PJ on the bench. They should have won more titles with them, but the new management has been terrible ever since. The two titles they've won since then were only because West did one last favor for LA and gift-wrapped Gasol.

[jyra]

I understand that Dwight is still a possibility, but if that doesn't go through then they're overloaded at the swingman spot.

The Warriors love small ball. A lineup of Curry, Klay, Barnes, Iggy + X would work really well.

[manufan10]

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[crc21209]

Damn the Warriors are looking stacked at the guard/wing positions. I'd keep Curry, Thompson, and Iggy. Move one of Green or Barnes...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Biedrins, Jefferson, Rush all sent to Utah.

[Mel_13]

RJ's untradeable contract has now been traded twice.

[Baam]

With Iggy on board they can definitely trade Barnes...

[cjw]

There's a bit of a jam at the 2/3, so if this is true, then who else could they sign or trade for besides Dwight?

Dwight for Thompson or Barnes + Bogut seems like the likely outcome.

If Houston gets Dwight, there needs to be a landing spot for Asik. Lakers may be open to taking on Bogut instead of him in order to free up cap space for next summer though, but that would probably come after the initial Houston S&T. Still doesn't solve the issue of one too many perimeter guys.

Not a bad problem to have though if you're GS.

[elemento]

Biedrins, Jefferson, Rush all sent to Utah.

What else Utah gets? Because if it's only this, that's a dumb trade. Lindsay is trolling in Utah seriously.

[SpursRock20]

Damn the Warriors are looking stacked at the guard/wing positions. I'd keep Curry, Thompson, and Iggy. Move one of Green or Barnes...
Any chance we can get in on Green or Barnes?

[manufan10]

RJ's untradeable contract has now been traded twice.

And I was laughing at it yesterday. :lol

[coyotes_geek]

Biedrins, Jefferson, Rush all sent to Utah.

Not sure what the Warriors are up to. Yeah, that's $28 mil off their cap assuming there not taking any salary back, but that still doesn't give them enough room to sign Iguodala, let alone Dwight.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

What else Utah gets? Because if it's only this, that's a dumb trade. Lindsay is trolling in Utah seriously.

So far that's all what's been reported.

[Mel_13]

Not sure what the Warriors are up to. Yeah, that's $28 mil off their cap assuming there not taking any salary back, but that still doesn't give them enough room to sign Iguodala, let alone Dwight.

It gives them enough room for Iggy, at least according to Sham's numbers and accounting for the reported deal for Iggy.

[Drom John]

Pelton suggests that Asik & Lin go to ATL in a Smith S&T, if Houston gets Howard.

[timvp]

It'll be interesting to see what GS had to give up for Utah to absorb that much salary.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

It'll be interesting to see what GS had to give up for Utah to absorb that much salary.

Multiple draft picks now reported to be sent Utah's way, including next year's first rounder.

[Mel_13]

What else Utah gets? Because if it's only this, that's a dumb trade. Lindsay is trolling in Utah seriously.

Likely will include draft picks. They're clearly going to tank.

[K-State Spur]

I really don't get what Utah's doing. Lindsey owe Myers multiple favors?

[Spurs Brazil]

It'll be interesting to see what GS had to give up for Utah to absorb that much salary.

‏@WojYahooNBA
Golden State is sending multiple draft picks to Utah to unload the $24 million, including 2014 first-rounder, sources tell Y!

[Mel_13]

It'll be interesting to see what GS had to give up for Utah to absorb that much salary.

Man, when are you going to change that avatar?

[playblair]

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[Darkwaters]

‏@WojYahooNBA
Golden State is sending multiple draft picks to Utah to unload the $24 million, including 2014 first-rounder, sources tell Y!

Surely they had to send more than just a few draft picks.

[manufan10]

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[Mel_13]

No chance that Jack or Landry return to GS now.

[Drom John]

Pelton suggests that the Matt Barnes signing makes Carl Landry available.

[coyotes_geek]

It gives them enough room for Iggy, at least according to Sham's numbers and accounting for the reported deal for Iggy.

You're right. They'd have to renounce Jack and Landry, but they can get there. At least as things stand now.

[houston spurs fan]

Props to Daryl Morey. He's been working this deal ever since Stern screwed him out of Pau Gasol deal. It would be a hell of a front office achievement. Building a contender without tanking seasons.

[jon123spurs]

Wonder if we can get Jarrett Jack for the mle?

[manufan10]

Seeing rumors that Denver refused to do a S/T with Golden State, so they ended up getting nothing in return. I wonder what GS was offering.

[Mel_13]

You're right. They'd have to renounce Jack and Landry, but they can get there. At least as things stand now.

If they can now get Howard for Bogut+Barnes or Bogut+Klay, then that will be one of the most most impressive FO maneuvers in a very long time.

[Bruno]

I have Utah $5.2M below the cap which means they won't be able to keep Millsap and will have to renounce at his rights...

He could be in play for Spurs.

[Mel_13]

Wonder if we can get Jarrett Jack for the mle?

You mean half the MLE?

[elemento]

Seeing rumors that Denver refused to do a S/T with Golden State, so they ended up getting nothing in return. I wonder what GS was offering.

And Denver actually made a better offer. 4y/52m

So funny that ORL won that trade and everyone was making fun of them when it happened.

[Baam]

If Golden State get Dwight the league is pretty much fucked...

[coyotes_geek]

Seeing rumors that Denver refused to do a S/T with Golden State, so they ended up getting nothing in return. I wonder what GS was offering.

A second round draft pick is how those types of S&T's have usually gone down. The old team ends up getting a trade exception out of it as well.

[BackHome]

People said the same thing when the Flakers got him

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

On second thought.

Just looked at Utah's payroll. They're about 20M below the floor. If they want to tank for Wiggins, taking on RJ and Biedrins with a couple of draft picks might actually make sense.

I believe they get 3 1st round draft picks, '14, '16, '18 1st round picks of the Warriors. Remember the Warriors basically just traded away the 1st round pick they got for taking on RJ. But the Spurs pick was the last pick of the 1st round. I hardly doubt the Warriors pick will be that low. It should be in the lower 20's

That is why I say the Spurs need to trade their '14 now b/c everyone is willing to take on whatever to get a pick in next year's draft. Spurs should have a bottom 3 pick next year as well. Its not like they are going to get anyone of value next year.

[Mel_13]

If Golden State get Dwight the league is pretty much fucked...

On the bright side, the Lakers would be the third best team in their division.

[Kineto]

If Golden State get Dwight the league is pretty much fucked...

Like last year when LA get Howard+Nash+Meeks+Jamisson ?

[coyotes_geek]

If they can now get Howard for Bogut+Barnes or Bogut+Klay, then that will be one of the most most impressive FO maneuvers in a very long time.

Without a doubt. We could go ahead and give out the '13-'14 executive of the year award.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Like last year when LA get Howard+Nash+Meeks+Jamisson ?

Not even remotely close.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I have Utah $5.2M below the cap which means they won't be able to keep Millsap and will have to renounce at his rights...

He could be in play for Spurs.

No, teams can still go over the cap to sign their own free agents they have Bird Rights to. They basically can still offer him the Max if they want, which I highly doubt they do. This is a sign and trade, which means the Jazz acquiring the Rights of RJ and Biedrins so this doesn't preclude whatsoever from resigning Millsaps.

[Mel_13]

No, teams can still go over the cap to sign their own free agents they have Bird Rights to. They basically can still offer him the Max if they want, which I highly doubt they do. This is a sign and trade, which means the Jazz acquiring the Rights of RJ and Biedrins so this doesn't preclude whatsoever from resigning Millsaps.

Don't argue with Bruno about the CBA unless you can cite references that prove your point.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[Robz4000]

If Golden State get Dwight the league is pretty much fucked...

Nah. They'd be joining the West's elite tier with SA and OKC, but they still wouldn't be clear-cut favorites.

[coyotes_geek]

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For a team that already has 4 point guards under contract for next season, the Spurs name sure does keep coming up a lot with free agent point guards.

[manufan10]

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[spurs10]

For a team that already has 4 point guards under contract for next season, the Spurs name sure does keep coming up a lot with free agent point guards.Look how many of them got playing time in the Finals.

[Baam]

For a team that already has 4 point guards under contract for next season, the Spurs name sure does keep coming up a lot with free agent point guards.

Yeah to me it pretty much confirms that we're using the MLE on Beli and are only gonna sign another PG and then we will be done...

[Bruno]

No, teams can still go over the cap to sign their own free agents they have Bird Rights to.

There is a cap hold associated with keeping Bird rights on a player. For Millsap, this cap hold is $12.9M. They can't have that cap hold and do that trade. Utah will have to renounce at Millsap bird rights.

[jyra]

No, teams can still go over the cap to sign their own free agents they have Bird Rights to. They basically can still offer him the Max if they want, which I highly doubt they do. This is a sign and trade, which means the Jazz acquiring the Rights of RJ and Biedrins so this doesn't preclude whatsoever from resigning Millsaps.

The Jazz have Milsaps Bird Rights but they still have to create enough cap space to absorb the contracts of RJ, Biedrins and Rush in a trade. To do that they have to renounce Milsap to get his cap hold off the books. But that step also means losing his Bird Rights.

They could offer him more than those 5.2m right now but then that trade becomes impossible unless they dump some other contracts first.

Ah too slow..

[K-State Spur]

No, teams can still go over the cap to sign their own free agents they have Bird Rights to. They basically can still offer him the Max if they want, which I highly doubt they do. This is a sign and trade, which means the Jazz acquiring the Rights of RJ and Biedrins so this doesn't preclude whatsoever from resigning Millsaps.

Doesn't work like that. Millsap's "cap hold" is already on the books - so they can't even officially make the trade which takes on that much salary unless he's either signed to a much smaller deal, or renounced.

The cap hold prevents teams with FAs from circumventing the cap by taking on a bunch of money via trade - then just using their bird rights on the FAs they want to keep.

Edit: Bruno, of course, beat me.

[coyotes_geek]

Yeah to me it pretty much confirms that we're using the MLE on Beli and are only gonna sign another PG and then we will be done...

What it means to me is that Decolo, or Joseph, or both, are about to be traded for a future 2nd round draft pick.

[TD 21]

I've got to believe that Howard is going to the Warriors. Iguodala is obviously a good player, but he's aging, reliant on athleticism and in Barnes, they have one of the best SF prospects in the league, plus Thompson. So I doubt they'd give up two future 1sts to get a team to take two guys on expiring contracts, just to sign him.

[coachmac87]

Damn this offseason hasn't even began lol. Shit is going down once Howard makes up his mind...Spurs still have a few tricks up their sleeve IMO

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[Bruno]

After re-doing the computation, the max Utah could offer to Millsap with that trade is a starting salary of $5.7M for a total contract of $32.8M/5 years. If they are willing to give him a 5 years contract, it might allow them to keep him but it's not a given.

[coyotes_geek]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

[houston spurs fan]

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Morey's going to pull this off

[manufan10]

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[dallasmaverickslose]

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Dont be surprised if Cuban starts belong up this team.

[Mugen]

-If the Warriors can flip Bogut/Barnes for D12 without giving up Klay, then they're a legit threat in the WC.
-Cubes is going to throw big money at one of the guys the Spurs are hopefully targeting. Maybe even both.

[Mel_13]

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Plan B?

DWill
CP3
Howard
Jefferson

They're at least at Plan E by now.

[Bruno]

The best option for Dallas would be to tank this year.

[jyra]

I'm fully expecting the Mavs to throw some crazy contract at Andrew Bynum now. Let's just hope that they don't go after Millsap or AK47.

[coyotes_geek]

Dont be surprised if Cuban starts belong up this team.

What's left to blow up? They've got Dirk, and............................................... ................???

[loveforthegame]

In 3...2...1 Cuban is going to drop big money on somebody just to make a move. :lol

[dallasmaverickslose]

What's left to blow up? They've got Dirk, and............................................... ................???

Well... I guess you could say Dirk IS the team at this point?

[elemento]

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That's exactly why SA signed Splitter so quickly. Cuban's plan B = OVERPAY

[manufan10]

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[K-State Spur]

I'm fully expecting the Mavs to throw some crazy contract at Andrew Bynum now. Let's just hope that they don't go after Millsap or AK47.

They would seem to be a threat - but I can't imagine that Cuban will tie any money up with either in a multi-year deal that they'll definitely want. Gotta think he'll sign a bunch of sub-par guys to 1 year offers again and move on to plan C next year. Meanwhile, the end of Dirk's prime just fizzling away...

[DesignatedT]

Dallas gunna make a run at Josh Smith now or what\? Been pretty quiet surrounding him.

[houston spurs fan]

Houston getting a chance to stick it to Dallas and LA...

[Mel_13]

That's exactly why SA signed Splitter so quickly. Cuban's plan B = OVERPAY

Exactly.

I feel safe in predicting that there will be contracts signed this summer that make Splitter's deal look like a bargain.

[RD2191]

Dwight Howard is insufferable.

[TD 21]

I'm fully expecting the Mavs to throw some crazy contract at Andrew Bynum now. Let's just hope that they don't go after Millsap or AK47.

I know it's the Mavs we're talking about, but I doubt they sign Millsap or Kirilenko, since Millsap and Nowitzki can't consistently play together and Kirilenko is redundant with Marion already their. They'd be better off keeping Marion, who's an expiring.

Bynum, I agree, they'll probably be all in on now.


If I had a choice between Millsap and Kirilenko, I'd take Millsap. I'm intrigued by Kirilenko, but I can't deny that it would be at least somewhat of an awkward fit. He doesn't really have the strength to defend PF's consistently nor the shooting to be a stretch four. Millsap, on the other hand, would be a seamless fit.

[benefactor]

Dallas gunna make a run at Josh Smith now or what\? Been pretty quiet surrounding him.
He knew that he was getting signed to whoever lost out on Howard. I don't see how he fits with Dallas though.

[houston spurs fan]

Josh Smith could be a good fit in LA. An Amare type player with Nash could work

[Mugen]

Do it Cubes.

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[Nathan89]

Millsap will end up going to Houston.

[ducks]

mavs may push and over pay smith because rumor is if rockets do not get howard they go after smith
Andrew Bynum might go there also
cuban has money to take a shot at his body
or he could even offer oden crazy money on a one year deal

[ducks]

ak47 want to contend he will not go to mavs

[K-State Spur]

If I had a choice between Millsap and Kirilenko, I'd take Millsap. I'm intrigued by Kirilenko, but I can't deny that it would be at least somewhat of an awkward fit. He doesn't really have the strength to defend PF's consistently nor the shooting to be a stretch four. Millsap, on the other hand, would be a seamless fit.

Precisely why Kirilenko is a fit. His ability to defend small ball and wings plays better with the biggest current threats to the Spurs.

Sure, Millsap is better at guarding legit 4s - but post defense isn't his biggest strength to begin with. And there are only a handful of "big teams" across the league to contend with - and the Spurs have already figured them out with the Duncan/Splitter starting lineup. Diaw holds up okay in the post & Baynes is there I.C.E.

But having another big wing with perimeter skills to go up against the Miami, OKC, & GSWs of the league is a bigger need with the way the roster is currently constructed. Especially when you consider that Kawhi is our only legit 3, and he's had to deal with some injuries already in his young career.

[ducks]

The best option for Dallas would be to tank this year.

I would tradde dirk to whoever losses out on howard

[Chinook]

I love Iggy to the Warriors. He can drive and defend, which is something that the Warriors lack right now. He's also a good play-maker for his position, and that helps a team out when their starting point-guard is really just a small two-guard.

[DesignatedT]

Who comes off the bench in GS?

[ducks]

Josh Smith could be a good fit in LA. An Amare type player with Nash could work

how is la going to get smith they are over the cap
la has nothing hawks want

[Chinook]

Who comes off the bench in GS?

Provided they didn't give anyone up in the trades to Utah and Denver? Probably Barnes. Thompson is too good of a shooter, and Iggy is too good to put on the bench. A Barnes/Jack-led second unit could be really good.

[K-State Spur]

I love Iggy to the Warriors. He can drive and defend, which is something that the Warriors lack right now. He's also a good play-maker for his position, and that helps a team out when their starting point-guard is really just a small two-guard.

I too like the deal for GSW.

On the flip side, while I'm not a big Jack fan, renouncing him lowers the odds that Curry gets through the season healthy quite a bit below what they would be with him on the roster.

With so many dogfights in Western games upcoming, they're going to ride him into the ground if they don't find a way to add another PG.

[Bruno]

The GS/Utah deal makes it also more interesting for Utah to take De Colo in a salary dump move. They have very little cap space left and using it on a relatively young player with a friendly contract would a good move for them.

[Nathan89]

Hack-a-Howard is an even greater net-positive move on the Warriors. 50% for 1pt or multiple people that can shoot 40%+ for 3pts.

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[jyra]

Who comes off the bench in GS?

David Lee, if I was coaching them. But probably Klay because he can take over some of the ball handling/play making duties with Jarett Jack gone.

[TD 21]

Precisely why Kirilenko is a fit. His ability to defend small ball and wings plays better with the biggest current threats to the Spurs.

Sure, Millsap is better at guarding legit 4s - but post defense isn't his biggest strength to begin with. And there are only a handful of "big teams" across the league to contend with - and the Spurs have already figured them out with the Duncan/Splitter starting lineup. Diaw holds up okay in the post & Baynes is there I.C.E.

But having another big wing with perimeter skills to go up against the Miami, OKC, & GSWs of the league is a bigger need with the way the roster is currently constructed. Especially when you consider that Kawhi is our only legit 3, and he's had to deal with some injuries already in his young career.

Yeah, I know; but this is not like the past two seasons. Though they're the most likely candidates, the Thunder and Heat, if healthy, aren't assured of being in the Conference Finals and Finals. The Thunder because they've clearly taken a step back and the Heat because of three straight Finals appearances catching up to them. Against plenty of other potential playoff opponents (Clippers, Grizzlies, Warriors, Timberwolves, Pacers), he'd be an awkward fit. They could just start Splitter, but still.

And Millsap would be an excellent fit against the Heat too (less so against the Thunder, as Ibaka's length and athleticism would probably give him fits), because he would punish them for playing small and if James had to end up guarding him, 1) That means he'd have to expend a lot of energy banging down low and 2) That means he can't slide over to Parker. He's also a much better mid range shooter and rebounder than Kirilenko, too.

[Chinook]

I too like the deal for GSW.

On the flip side, while I'm not a big Jack fan, renouncing him lowers the odds that Curry gets through the season healthy quite a bit below what they would be with him on the roster.

With so many dogfights in Western games upcoming, they're going to ride him into the ground if they don't find a way to add another PG.

Why are they renouncing him? They should still be over the cap (especially if they want to be), so they're probably just going to trade with Denver. If that's the case, they can re-sign Jack and Landry and remain below the tax.

[benefactor]

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[houston spurs fan]

how is la going to get smith they are over the cap
la has nothing hawks want
Bad take on my part. Thanks

[benefactor]

Jack is about to get paid.

[DesignatedT]

I wish Howard would just sign with the fuckin Lakers.

[Bruno]

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From Dwight Howard to Jarrett jack, Brutal....

[Mel_13]

Why are they renouncing him? They should still be over the cap (especially if they want to be), so they're probably just going to trade with Denver. If that's the case, they can re-sign Jack and Landry and remain below the tax.

Reports are that Denver refused a S&T, so GSW will sign Iggy with cap space. That could change before the 10th, but that's the latest reporting.

[Mugen]

Yeah, Spurfan should hope that Howard signs with the Rockets. It's the move that keeps all 3 of those teams behind the Spurs.

Howard staying in LA isn't bad either but him going to GS without giving up Klay or Barnes is bad news.

[Hoops Czar]

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He's already made up his mind. If the Lakers are behind, they're staying there.

[Chinook]

Reports are that Denver refused a S&T, so GSW will sign Iggy with cap space. That could change before the 10th, but that's the latest reporting.

They don't seem to have cap space to sign Iggy outright. Best-case scenario, they have $10.5 Million in cap space. And that's before they lost another $1.5 Million to roster charges. Unless the deal is a lot smaller than I saw it to be, I don't think it will fit.

[LakerHater]

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Guess beggin didnt help fLakers!

[loveforthegame]

Dwight Howard is insufferable.

[Mel_13]

They don't seem to have cap space to sign Iggy outright. Best-case scenario, they have $10.5 Million in cap space. And that's before they lost another $1.5 Million to roster charges. Unless the deal is a lot smaller than I saw it to be, I don't think it will fit.

Looking at Sham's numbers, I think they do.

[Chinook]

Looking at Sham's numbers, I think they do.

That's what I was looking at. I put them at $48 Million with nine players. Did Rush opt out?

[K-State Spur]

(Clippers, Grizzlies, Warriors, Timberwolves, Pacers), he'd be an awkward fit.

Clips have 2 legit bigs on their roster.
We just showed that Status Quo with Duncan/Splitter/Diaw can handle Memphis' front line.
GSW plays a ton of small ball.
Pacers don't have much past Hibbert/West. They gave Miami issues - but that's still just a 49 win team that would have gotten rolled by Spurs in 5 or 6 if they had made Finals.
T-Pups are a major threat???????


And Millsap would be an excellent fit against the Heat too... because he would punish them for playing small

Why would a 6'7 guy who offers no rim deterrent, a mediocre rebounder*, and does the majority of his scoring via jumper somebody who "punishes" teams for going small?

That said, I'd gladly take Millsap into the rotation for the right price. But not at the expense of Kirilenko if we have had that choice (and I have no idea if we do).

* Check it, at this stage in their careers - Splitter has a higher rebounding rate.

[elemento]

That's what I was looking at. I put them at $48 Million with nine players. Did Rush opt out?

Rush went to Utah in the deal Chino

[Mel_13]

That's what I was looking at. I put them at $48 Million with nine players. Did Rush opt out?

Rush was traded to Utah with Biedrins and RJ.

[slick'81]

After manu and tiago htf r the spurs freeing up enough $$ for milsap?? Dude is gonna get paid

[K-State Spur]

Why are they renouncing him? They should still be over the cap (especially if they want to be), so they're probably just going to trade with Denver. If that's the case, they can re-sign Jack and Landry and remain below the tax.

From David Aldridge:

Trying to juggle a dozen things, but as others have reported, this is huge: GSW renounced rights to Jarrett Jack to do Utah deal.

[Chinook]

Rush was traded to Utah with Biedrins and RJ.

Wow. What the hell, Utah? I guess that's what I get for skipping one whole page in this 1,700-post thread :lol.

Oh, then yes they do, provided they didn't have to take anyone back. That's a strange move for them, though. As their bench is even worse now than it was last year.

[LakerHater]

Rockets it is!!!

[Chinook]

Rush went to Utah in the deal Chino


From David Aldridge:

Trying to juggle a dozen things, but as others have reported, this is huge: GSW renounced rights to Jarrett Jack to do Utah deal.

Thanks, guys. I saw the Iggy signing and then just skipped to the last page. Missed out on some crucial details.

[LakerHater]

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[DesignatedT]

Rockets gun b good. SW division staaaacked.

[manufan10]

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[Mugen]

:lol Lakers

[jyra]

Woj has to be fuming right now that he got scooped. :D

[Mel_13]

lol Lakers
lol Best FO in the NBA
lol rascal

[elemento]

Is this guy reliable?

Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick (https://twitter.com/sam_amick)3 m (https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/353270711378395138)
Dwight Howard has chosen to sign with the Houston Rockets, @USATODAYSports (https://twitter.com/USATODAYsports) has learned. Story to come. - http://ow.ly/mH7dN (http://t.co/eNYYg63uJo)

Just WOW LA got fucked if true

[picnroll]

Lakers long time fooked.

[houston spurs fan]

Sam Amick says Rockets

[K-State Spur]

Howard going to HOU is probably a good scenario for Spurs. It does move another mid-level team to upper echelon, but it probably doesn't upset the balance of power at the top.

Meanwhile, takes one of the open capped teams (mostly) out of play for what's left out there.

[loveforthegame]

LA. :lol

Thank goodness for GS. I didn't want that baby anywhere near that team.

[Mel_13]

Lakers gonna be begging LeBron and Melo next summer.

[benefactor]

Gonna go after Smith now. They do that and yikes.

[TD 21]

Clips have 2 legit bigs on their roster.
We just showed that Status Quo with Duncan/Splitter/Diaw can handle Memphis' front line.
GSW plays a ton of small ball.
Pacers don't have much past Hibbert/West. They gave Miami issues - but that's still just a 49 win team that would have gotten rolled by Spurs in 5 or 6 if they had made Finals.
T-Pups are a major threat???????

Why would a 6'7 guy who offers no rim deterrent, a mediocre rebounder*, and does the majority of his scoring via jumper somebody who "punishes" teams for going small?

That said, I'd gladly take Millsap into the rotation for the right price. But not at the expense of Kirilenko if we have had that choice (and I have no idea if we do).

* Check it, at this stage in their careers - Splitter has a higher rebounding rate.

- They could maybe get away with him on Jordan, but, limited as he is offensively, that would still be a tough match-up for him and block out and it would mean Duncan would have to guard Griffin.
- Right, but can Kirilenko?
- Same situation as the Clippers (just replace Jordan with Bogut)
- But they do have Hibbert/West and they play a lot more minutes in the playoffs
- No, but can he guard Love or Pekovic and block out either?

He's a mediocre rebounder in general, but against a team that plays as small as the Heat, he'd have a field day. West is a sub par rebounder and is thought of as more of a face up PF than low post one, yet he destroyed them on the glass and in the post. I see no reason why Millsap, a similar player, couldn't do the same . . . and if I'm not mistaken, he has since the big three formed.

[manufan10]

LA can't really make any moves, can they?

[DesignatedT]

Hack a Howard = Spurs win.

[davidbowie]

Damn we're fucked :(

[manufan10]

True:

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:lol Presti

[Mugen]

Lakers gonna be begging LeBron and Melo next summer.

:lol They've already had some practice with Begging this offseason tbh

[slick'81]

Houston is gonna b scary .g.st,spurs,okc,clipps on watch

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[Bruno]

I can see a Josh Smith for Asik+filler S&T.

[DesignatedT]

So now the question is will LA do a S&T? What will Houston offer? Lin + Asik? lol

[Mel_13]

I can see a Josh Smith for Asik+filler S&T.

Would make so much sense for both teams.

[davidbowie]

Hahahahah lakers u fuckkn losers lololol

[houston spurs fan]

Lol, ESPN just had to quote USA Today breaking the story

[slick'81]

LaKers get walked out on lol

[DPG21920]

If I were GS, I would very quickly renege on the trade with UTA. I would pull out now. No Dwight makes getting Iggy very costly and possibly not very fruitful. You lose Jack/Landry/2 1sts/multiple seconds and have to pay him 48M?

[TD 21]

If this is in fact true (not sure how Amick managed to beat Wojnarowski and the other top insiders, but it's not like he's some virtual unknown like the idiot out of Phoenix that claimed the Spurs were in serious discussions for Gortat), then I don't get the Iguodala move by the Warriors.

Sure, at times, they can get away with playing Barnes at PF, but for the most part, they've limited him to roughly half a game off the bench, which will obviously stunt his development, plus given away 2 future 1sts and a quality 3D wing, in Rush and for what? I like Iguodala, but he doesn't boost their ceiling enough to justify the move.

[ducks]

I told you people a month ago howard was going to houston

[manufan10]

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[DesignatedT]

:lmao

[Bruno]

For Spurs, it's better to have Howard going to Rockets than to Lakers because it removes a team with cap space.

Right now these are the team with more than the MLE in cap sapce:
Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Milwaukee, Orlando, Philadelphia and Sacramento.

I really hope Spurs will pick the cap space + room exception option. I feel it's now a buyers market.

[marinoman]

rockets can celebrate
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[manufan10]

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[benefactor]

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Kennedy is full of shit faggot. Don't listen to him. He's trying once again to get traffic.

[K-State Spur]

- They could maybe get away with him on Jordan, but, limited as he is offensively, that would still be a tough match-up for him and block out and it would mean Duncan would have to guard Griffin.
- Right, but can Kirilenko?
- Same situation as the Clippers (just replace Jordan with Bogut)
- But they do have Hibbert/West and they play a lot more minutes in the playoffs
- No, but can he guard Love or Pekovic and block out either?

He's a mediocre rebounder in general, but against a team that plays as small as the Heat, he'd have a field day. West is a sub par rebounder and is thought of as more of a face up PF than low post one, yet he destroyed them on the glass and in the post. I see no reason why Millsap, a similar player, couldn't do the same . . . and if I'm not mistaken, he has since the big three formed.

It's AK's versatility that makes him a better choice. He doesn't have to play much 4 against bigger teams, playing back-up 3 instead. Now, I have no idea if he's okay with this and wants onboard, but we don't know that about Millsap either.

The difference between West & Millsap vs. the Heat is that West has a back-to-the-basket game and can back Lebron or other defenders down. Millsap doesn't do that. He shoots 12 footers. And his offensive rebound rate has fallen to 8% - half of what it was when he was rookie. He's not good on the boards anymore.

[marinoman]

Ken Berger from CBS reporting Dwight calling teams to inform them he chose Houston.

[DesignatedT]

For Spurs, it's better to have Howard going to Rockets than to Lakers because it removes a team with cap space.


Assuming the Spurs actually plan on being players in FA. In all likelihood they don't and this move is probably bad for them in that case.

[manufan10]

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