Official 2016 Summer League Thread

[jermaine]

Where's the guy we drafted?? Why isn't he playing?

[SPURt]

Yes he did
The weird part is he didn't correct himself.

[jermaine]

Simmons aint nuttin but D-league talent!

[TheGoldStandard]

Tibor already better than Bonner

[objective]

Classic Anderson. Too lazy/slow to rotate and contest on defense.

[Vic Petro]

And now he called Arcidiacono "Arciacuño"

[loveforthegame]

Liking Forbes.

[palangi]

I want Mills gone and Forbes on the team.

Parker, Murray, Forbes

[TheGoldStandard]

This really does look like a Spurs defense.. lol..

[SPURt]

This announcer is killing himself with Ryan's name lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Relax guys, Forbes is getting shots off on d league talent.

[SAGirl]

I like Arcidiacono. At least he shoots that 3.

[sasaint]

Simmons is playing with confidence against the scrub competition.

[myhc]

Announcer: "Ryan Archey-diawcano" LOL We need to document all the ways he butchers that kids name.

[SPURt]

I'm digging these gaurds. The bigs are another story.

[SAGirl]

This announcer is killing himself with Ryan's name lol
:lol

[SPURt]

I like Arcidiacono. At least he shoots that 3.
He was pretty reluctant. If he was more confident he could do some work.

[ElNono]

Disappointing that Kyle and Simms look the same as last season. There's nothing here for the 1st team, tbh... we'll see what else is there from the guys that couldn't play tonight...

[SAGirl]

Simmons is playing with confidence against the scrub competition.
This is how guys build confidence. Have to wish him the best.
No Tissot moments. :lol

[Chinook]

Really like Bryn Forbes wish he was the one with a TC deal already locked in.

[SAGirl]

Disappointing that Kyle and Simms look the same as last season. There's nothing here for the 1st team, tbh... we'll see what else is there from the guys that couldn't play tonight...
You are being too rough. These guys don't have a lick of confidence or chemistry. Hopefully in Vegas they look better.

[Ron Swanson]

Talkin' catfish with Rodney Hood!

[lilbthebasedgod]

Is there any reason Dejounte isn't playing this summer league? I've read the mySA article but I'm confused.

[siraulo23]

no one standing out on this spurs team

[myhc]

That pass by Kyle into the post took 2 minutes to get there LOL

[xellos88330]

Kirk has stone hands tonight.

[lilbthebasedgod]

What a risky pass by Anderson

[NASpurs]

I like Arcidiacono. At least he shoots that 3.

Already better than Jimmer.

[loveforthegame]

Slomo. Cripes, that looked like slow motion. :lol

[Ron Swanson]

Is there any reason Dejounte isn't playing this summer league? I've read the mySA article but I'm confused.

Needs a contract first.

[ElNono]

You are being too rough. These guys don't have a lick of confidence or chemistry. Hopefully in Vegas they look better.

It's not about out of shape... there's just nothing new to their games...

[SPURt]

Wallace jumping at pump fakes like crazy

[TheGoldStandard]

Hopefully Murray deal is done by Friday's Vegas league, that's the guy who needs touches and playing time.

[SPURt]

Talkin' catfish with Rodney Hood!
Sounds like the best TV show ever

[Chinook]

Anderson is definitely a plus defender on the ball. Off the ball needs work.

[sasaint]

That pass by Kyle into the post took 2 minutes to get there LOL

:lol How did he do that? Seemed to defy the laws of physics, tbh.

[SPURt]

I think Ryan is giving this announcer a stroke

[SAGirl]

Nice pass to a cutting Simmons. That was straight Raymondesque.

[loveforthegame]

Simmons, Forbes, and Williams have been the most impressive.

[Ron Swanson]

I think Ryan is giving this announcer a stroke


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq07vHOkqKU

[myhc]

:lol How did he do that? Seemed to defy the laws of physics, tbh.

:lmao I swear I thought something was wrong with the video feed, almost like a replay. That ball was in the air for a long ass time.

[lilbthebasedgod]

Yeah, but you could sign a summer league contract. They said that his management won't let him sign until he plays first...which doesn't make any sense.

[CP48107]

I like that kid Forbes, looks like a promising player.

[Chinook]

Why can't the Spurs ever had good bigs on their summer-league rosters?

[Nathan89]

Anderson still not worth having on the court. I suspect that won't change unless he develops a very good shot.

[ElNono]

This is one aspect I hate about the Gasol acquisition. Pop is going to rest the fuck out of him, and we don't have a bench right now, especially if Boris gets traded.

Most of these guys are borderline D-League, tbh... might work against 80% of the league that's currently shit, but not going to work long-term, IMO

[TheGoldStandard]

Why can't the Spurs ever had good bigs on their summer-league rosters?

:pop: Still searching for the next Bonner.. Or Jeff Ayres

[look_at_g_shred]

Forbes looks good! Looks hungry for a spot!

[TheGoldStandard]

This is one aspect I hate about the Gasol trade. Pop is going to rest the fuck out of him, and we don't have a bench right now, especially if Boris gets traded.

Most of these guys are borderline D-League, tbh... might work against 80% of the league that's currently shit, but not going to work long-term, IMO

Come playoff time the team will get exposed. Kawhi should be playing like 40 minutes a game.

[SPURt]

Does Bolomboy have a learning disability?

[wildbill2u]

Who is Williams and where did he come from to the Spurs?

[look_at_g_shred]

Did he call Kawhi "Kwame"?
He did.. Faggot :lmao

[SPURt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq07vHOkqKU
Ah man, lol, what the hell was that?

[TheDoctor]

:pop: Still searching for the next Bonner.. Or Jeff Ayres
*Clap.

[Kawhitstorm]

Why can't the Spurs ever had good bigs on their summer-league rosters?

Wasn't your boy Mr. Stone Hands Ndoye on the roster last summer?:lol

[ElNono]

Come playoff time the team will get exposed. Kawhi should be playing like 40 minutes a game.

That can happen regardless. Since Tim is retiring I'm not really thinking championship anymore, but at least keeping the 50-win streak alive.

I know it's early, but there's no Gary Neal here. A guy that really stood out and the Spurs had a need for.

We don't need a Kyle Anderson, and Simms doesn't look any more confident/seasoned. Hopefully that kid Murray can play soon and we get a peek, that's a position we have a need for.

[TheGoldStandard]

Cady must have been doing some dope in the back or something.. why hasn't he played?

[Chinook]

Wasn't your boy Mr. Stone Hands Ndoye on the roster last summer?:lol

Yeah, and he'd be great on the roster this year. But his new 2K rating must have disqualified him.

[Kawhitstorm]

This is one aspect I hate about the Gasol acquisition. Pop is going to rest the fuck out of him, and we don't have a bench right now, especially if Boris gets traded.

Gasol is not the type of player that like to rest, he plays year round & ALWAYS plays for his national team. He has said that he doesn't workout in the Summer & would rather just play.

[ElNono]

Gasol is not the type of player that like to rest, he plays year round & ALWAYS plays for his national team. He has said that he doesn't workout in the Summer & would rather just play.

Pop is his coach now, end of story.

[TheDoctor]

Spurs bench doesn't look promising at all.

Paddy
Kyle
Simmons
Boban

^ D-League scrubs

[look_at_g_shred]

Ah man, lol, what the hell was that?
:lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

That can happen regardless. Since Tim is retiring I'm not really thinking championship anymore, but at least keeping the 50-win streak alive.

I know it's early, but there's no Gary Neal here. A guy that really stood out and the Spurs had a need for.

We don't need a Kyle Anderson, and Simms doesn't look any more confident/seasoned. Hopefully that kid Murray can play soon and we get a peek, that's a position we have a need for.

All those dudes look like they're just content getting a look and they're trying to pass and make reads etc.. They don't have that confidence.. What's the process for picking up these guys anyway? Who does the picking and choosing?

[look_at_g_shred]

Spurs bench doesn't look promising at all.

Paddy
Kyle
Simmons
Boban

^ D-League scrubs
Patty gonna be Westbrook lite next season..you seen him ? Dude is ripped

[myhc]

This Forbes kid can shoot the rock.

[wildbill2u]

Who is Williams and where did he come from to the Spurs?

[td4mvp2k]

anderson doin work

[SAGirl]

It's not about out of shape... there's just nothing new to their games...
Anderson 3

[ElNono]

Anderson 3

and?

[Ron Swanson]

http://i.imgur.com/Hfz6AHW.gif

[Nathan89]

Gasol is not the type of player that like to rest, he plays year round & ALWAYS plays for his national team. He has said that he doesn't workout in the Summer & would rather just play.

Tim needs whip this bitch into shape.

[Chinook]

and?

and...erson 3

[loveforthegame]

Anderson is aggressive against scrub competition. Where's this with the big club?

[SPURt]

Kirk looks like Bonner's 45 yr old alcoholic brother with exactly as much athleticism as you would expect.

[ElNono]

and...erson 3

:lol

[myhc]

Archie......di.....ah....cuno. LOL

[beirmeistr]

great pass by archie

[TheGoldStandard]

Kirk looks like Bonner's 45 yr old alcoholic brother with exactly as much athleticism as you would expect.

:pop: Keep talking..

[sasaint]

Nice pass by Archidi-acuno!

[TheDoctor]

At least last year there was some kind of mistery about Kyle development and new kid on the block Simmons but man they look exactly the same out there.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pop is his coach now, end of story.

Pop doesn't have a bench, end of story. (Pau signed a 1+1 so he's nothing more than a rental)

[SAGirl]

and?
wasn't taking that many 3s previously, clearly.
...
but honestly what I meant to type b4, just didn't finish the thought was that there was definite lack of chemistry early, which turned into TO and some ugly stuff.

We should be happy if both guys are just taking the 3 a little bit more loosely. I thought both turned down shots in the RS. Anderson blamed the most bc he played more, but Simmons turned down his share of 3s too.

Kyle has obviously been turned by Pop into a 4, he's added muscle and is learning that spot. I definitely believe he needs to improve a lot but its not like he hasn't changed. More like he's in the process of changing.

Simmons is pretty much the same but if he shoots the 3 when he's open that is an improvement. His game is pretty much the same though. I am not sure what you wanted to see.

[TheGoldStandard]

At least last year there was some kind of mistery about Kyle development and new kid of the block Simmons but man they look exactly the same out there.

What were you really expecting? These dudes are spares.. it would take someone actually sitting with them and telling them.. you need to develop XYZ..

[loveforthegame]

Forbes would be welcomed on the bench.

[look_at_g_shred]

wasn't taking that many 3s previously, clearly.
...
but honestly what I meant to type b4, just didn't finish the thought was that there was definite lack of chemistry early, which turned into TO and some ugly stuff.

We should be happy if both guys are just taking the 3 a little bit more loosely. I thought both turned down shots in the RS. Anderson blamed the most bc he played more, but Simmons turned down his share of 3s too.

Kyle has obviously been turned by Pop into a 4, he's added muscle and is learning that spot. I definitely believe he needs to improve a lot but its not like he hasn't changed. More like he's in the process of changing.

Simmons is pretty much the same but if he shoots the 3 when he's open that is an improvement. His game is pretty much the same though. I am not sure what you wanted to see.
His release looks quicker tambien

[Ron Swanson]

Been somewhat impressed with Forbes, so far.

[ElNono]

Pop doesn't have a bench, end of story.

He didn't last season either, didn't stop him one bit. He'll be happy to play Bonner, tbh

[TheDoctor]

Forbes would be welcomed on the bench.

[sasaint]

Forbes knows how to put the ball in the bucket - prolly cut him.

[NASpurs]

det Utah Jazz summer league core

[TheDoctor]

What were you really expecting? These dudes are spares.. it would take someone actually sitting with them and telling them.. you need to develop XYZ..
:pop:

[TheGoldStandard]

:pop: Forbes is not showing appropriate fear.. he's not over himself

[myhc]

Forbes can shoot and shoots with confidence.

[TheGoldStandard]

:pop:

:pop: They're NBA players, they can figure it out for themselves.. I'm here to win basketball games.

[SPURt]

:pop: Keep talking..
I think he knows where the bodies are buried

[look_at_g_shred]

Why didn't Jarell Eddie never work out? Dude shot the lights out

[TheGoldStandard]

I think he knows where the bodies are buried

:pop: I'm going to need some napkins and a mop

[SAGirl]

His release looks quicker tambien
I forgot to mention that .. lol Kyle's release previously took 3.5 seconds to go off so I was told. :lol

[NASpurs]

:pop: Forbes is not showing appropriate fear.. he's not over himself

:pop: He's a perfect candidate for the Turkish league. That's when he'll know what fear is.

[SAGirl]

Why didn't Jarell Eddie never work out? Dude shot the lights out
Chinook was fuming we didn't pick him up.
Might have been better than Kevin Martin. lol :lol

[sasaint]

Why didn't Jarell Eddie never work out? Dude shot the lights out

I think he ended the season with the Hawks.

[SPURt]

Wallace with the bads

[SPURt]

:pop: I'm going to need some napkins and a mop
They're buried in his stomach and poop bucket. He ate them.

[ElNono]

Kyle has obviously been turned by Pop into a 4, he's added muscle and is learning that spot. I definitely believe he needs to improve a lot but its not like he hasn't changed. More like he's in the process of changing.

Simmons is pretty much the same but if he shoots the 3 when he's open that is an improvement. His game is pretty much the same though. I am not sure what you wanted to see.

I wanted to see either of those guys looking like they have a season or two in the NBA under their belts. You know, actually standing out from this crud of D-Leaguers. There's no such thing here, unfortunately. They might score 20, but because they're the go to guys, not because they're dominating. I didn't expect either to look like Kawhi in his summer league, but more than just same old same old. Kyle looks different physically and that's it. He's the least of my worried though, since he'll be parked behind Kawhi anyways.

The Spurs will have to look somewhere else if they want to have a competitive bench this season. Like I said, I hope Murray stands out, maybe Cady has taken a step forward. Otherwise, if Boris is really gone, it's gonna be problematic.

[Ron Swanson]

I wish we would've drafted Gobert.

[ernest787]

yeah I have the same concern. KA and Simmons don't look like NBA players yet. That is no bueno when they are playing d-league fodder.

[coachmac87]

Why didn't Jarell Eddie never work out? Dude shot the lights out

Size. Plus you have Patty..

Same shit will happen to Forbes tbh

[sasaint]

I wanted to see either of those guys looking like they have a season or two in the NBA under their belts. You know, actually standing out from this crud of D-Leaguers. There's no such thing here, unfortunately. They might score 20, but because they're the go to guys, not because they're dominating. I didn't expect either to look like Kawhi in his summer league, but more than just same old same old. Kyle looks different physically and that's it. He's the least of my worried though, since he'll be parked behind Kawhi anyways.

The Spurs will have to look somewhere else if they want to have a competitive bench this season. Like I said, I hope Murray stands out, maybe Cady has taken a step forward. Otherwise, if Boris is really gone, it's gonna be problematic.

You are way more optimistic about Dijon than I am. Even his "highlight" reel didn't impress me.

[ElNono]

You are way more optimistic about Dijon than I am. Even his "highlight" reel didn't impress me.

I have no idea what he looks like. Wanting to know soon, because otherwise PATFO is going to have their work cut out for them.

[ace3g]

Eddie is 6'7 ? So that wasn't the problem.

[TheGoldStandard]

You are way more optimistic about Dijon than I am. Even his "highlight" reel didn't impress me.

His highlight reel was way more impressive than anything Anderson put up. Murray looks like the kinda guy who will look like he belongs

[sasaint]

Eddie is 6'7 ? So that wasn't the problem.

He was strictly a post up shooter. Made DG look like Chris Paul.

[Spurs9]

Until he went down with the cramps
Yeah I posted before I saw that, I watch on dvr to avoid commercials.

[xellos88330]

Lol Kirk! Catch the ball!

[sasaint]

His highlight reel was way more impressive than anything Anderson put up. Murray looks like the kinda guy who will look like he belongs

You saw a different highlight reel, then. He hit about 25% of his shots - including dunks - in the highlight reel I saw just after the draft. Turned the ball over. Over-hyped "athleticism". Believe me, I hope I am wrong.

[bass sucks]

Anybody going to vegas?

[xellos88330]

I swear, Kirk has had more balls to his face in this one game than a dime hooker.

[look_at_g_shred]

Lol Kirk! Catch the ball!
Xellos! Sup man ! How ya been?

[SAGirl]

Nice drawing of fouls by Simms\
then nice pass in the paint by Anderson, but Obrien can't catch a ball, went right through his hands. If that is LMA or Pau its a bucket.

[look_at_g_shred]

Forbes tho!!

[lilbthebasedgod]

Catch the ball Kirk

[RD2191]

Our only hope to boost the bench might be to start kyle and have parker be a 6th man of sorts.

*ducks for cover*

[palangi]

You saw a different highlight reel, then. He hit about 25% of his shots - including dunks - in the highlight reel I saw just after the draft. Turned the ball over. Over-hyped "athleticism". Believe me, I hope I am wrong.

No you don't. You want to be so right. Get over yourself. Kid averaged 16/5/4 as a true freshman

[xellos88330]

Xellos! Sup man ! How ya been?

Good. Been lurking, but haven't had much to say.

[NASpurs]

Kirk's hands are fucking horrible.

[TheDoctor]

Does Kirk has some dirt on PATFO too? Don't get why he's on the team instead of Cady?

[look_at_g_shred]

Good. Been lurking, but haven't had much to say.
Yea sometimes this place will leave you speechless

[palangi]

Nice drawing of fouls by Simms\
then nice pass in the paint by Anderson, but Obrien can't catch a ball, went right through his hands. If that is LMA or Pau its a bucket.

I think simmons and Anderson have looked good in the first summer league game. So many over critical couldn't make it themselves hacks here. We have no bigs either in this game.

[sasaint]

No you don't. You want to be so right. Get over yourself. Kid averaged 16/5/4 as a true freshman

:lol Okay, Pop. You know me so well. Stranger, I am a Spurs fan, and I hope all of our guys are studs. All I have seen is a highlight reel. Never saw a game. The highlight reel didn't impress me.

[look_at_g_shred]

Anderson...

[loveforthegame]

Simmons that was nasty.

[SAGirl]

I wanted to see either of those guys looking like they have a season or two in the NBA under their belts. You know, actually standing out from this crud of D-Leaguers. There's no such thing here, unfortunately. They might score 20, but because they're the go to guys, not because they're dominating. I didn't expect either to look like Kawhi in his summer league, but more than just same old same old. Kyle looks different physically and that's it. He's the least of my worried though, since he'll be parked behind Kawhi anyways.

The Spurs will have to look somewhere else if they want to have a competitive bench this season. Like I said, I hope Murray stands out, maybe Cady has taken a step forward. Otherwise, if Boris is really gone, it's gonna be problematic.
You will be disappointed then. Not just in these two. As soon as you see Cady or Murray. Murray was wildly inefficient and was absolutely ghastly on defense... his team didn't make it into the NCAA tournament and he was a good reason for that. He was drafted on potential and that is it. He needs at least a season and I am generous. Cady I haven't seen I kind of am disappointed in that, but Anderson is a better player than him and you don't like Anderson, so I predict a bunch of disappointment for you.

by the way Anderson 25, a few aquick 3s too.

[sasaint]

Forbes tho!!

Very impressive performance. He is a scorer.

[palangi]

Hopefully we see lalanne, LJC, Mulitinov, and Ndoye in Vegas. Anse of course Murray.

[Chinook]

The Spurs should guarantee as much of the first season of Forbes' contract that it takes to bring him into camp. If he doesn't make it, you eat the money. But he has a skill-set the team desperately needs to develop.

[look_at_g_shred]

by the way Anderson 25, a few aquick 3s too.
Gloating much? (Smirk emoji)

[palangi]

:lol Okay, Pop. You know me so well. Stranger, I am a Spurs fan, and I hope all of our guys are studs. All I have seen is a highlight reel. Never saw a game. The highlight reel didn't impress me.

Whatever! You're still crying they didn't take your guy.

[look_at_g_shred]

Damn I need to change my avatar..

[ElNono]

You will be disappointed then. Not just in these two. As soon as you see Cady or Murray.

Possibly. I'll give them some more slack than Simms or Kyle since they haven't been part of an NBA roster yet. But it's not about individuals, it's about the Spurs. Like it or not, with guys like Tony or Gasol on the team, and especially since Pop likes to rest even young guys, we need talent off the bench. The days where Gino would basically be the bench are over, and at least in the case of Kyle/Simms, they're not ready yet, IMO. It's early, but I didn't like what I saw so far.

And yeah, they're going to score. They took 50% of the team shots.

[ernest787]

i'm convinced SAgirl is KA's girlfriend/wife/fiance/mother/aunt/cousin/sister

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs (0-0)




field goalsrebounds



pos
min
fgm-a
3pm-a
ftm-a
+/-
off
def
tot
ast
pf
st
to
bs
ba
pts


K. Anderson (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_kyle_anderson/index.html)
F
26:24
10-16
2-3
3-4
+21
0
7
7
3
2
4
2
0
0
25


J. Simmons (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_johnathon_simmons/index.html)
F
28:20
7-15
1-7
3-5
+22
0
1
1
1
2
1
4
1
0
18


A. Kirk (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_alex_kirk/index.html)
C
20:32
0-2
0-0
0-0
+22
1
1
2
0
2
0
1
0
0
0


R. Arcidiacono (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_ryan_arcidiacono/index.html)
G
23:57
1-2
1-1
0-0
+17
0
3
3
4
4
2
1
0
0
3


B. Forbes (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_bryn_forbes/index.html)
G
26:38
6-9
2-5
2-2
+26
0
8
8
0
2
0
0
0
0
16


Q. DeCosey (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_quenton_decosey/index.html)

17:05
3-6
0-1
2-2
+7
1
1
2
1
0
0
1
0
1
8


I. Gromovs (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_ilja_gromovs/index.html)

13:14
0-0
0-0
0-0
+1
1
2
3
1
3
1
1
1
0
0


W. Cummings (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_will_cummings/index.html)

16:39
3-8
1-5
0-0
-4
0
5
5
3
3
1
1
0
0
7


C. Williams (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_cj_williams/index.html)

16:51
3-5
3-4
2-3
-5
0
2
2
0
0
1
0
0
0
11


E. Wise (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_eric_wise/index.html)

06:14
0-0
0-0
2-2
-2
0
0
0
1
2
0
2
0
0
2


A. Rodriguez (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_angel_rodriguez/index.html)

04:07
0-1
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0


C. Lalanne (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_cady_lalanne/index.html)
DND - Coach's Decision


E. Lorbek (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_erazem_lorbek/index.html)
DND - Coach's Decision


Total

200
33-64
10-26
14-18

3
30
33
14
21
10
13
2
1
90



51.6%
38.5%
77.8%

team rebs: 8
total to: 13

[lilbthebasedgod]

Anderson looked good. Simmons looked meh. Wasn't really impressed by anyone else.

[SAGirl]

Spurs wins got to love our younglings. I think Kyle is getting better tBH. That shot is going to be money!

[SPURt]

Anderson/Simmons/Arc/Forbes can stay. The rest of y'all can clean up your lockers and go home.

[ElNono]

The Spurs should guarantee as much of the first season of Forbes' contract that it takes to bring him into camp. If he doesn't make it, you eat the money. But he has a skill-set the team desperately needs to develop.

Agreed. We need shooters. It's just one game, and against a team that only had 1 semi-NBA guy out there, but if his shooting holds, he'll be a good grab.

[SAGirl]

:flag::flag::flag:

[SAGirl]

San Antonio Spurs (0-0)




field goalsrebounds



pos
min
fgm-a
3pm-a
ftm-a
+/-
off
def
tot
ast
pf
st
to
bs
ba
pts


K. Anderson (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_kyle_anderson/index.html)
F
26:24
10-16
2-3
3-4
+21
0
7
7
3
2
4
2
0
0
25


J. Simmons (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_johnathon_simmons/index.html)
F
28:20
7-15
1-7
3-5
+22
0
1
1
1
2
1
4
1
0
18


A. Kirk (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_alex_kirk/index.html)
C
20:32
0-2
0-0
0-0
+22
1
1
2
0
2
0
1
0
0
0


R. Arcidiacono (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_ryan_arcidiacono/index.html)
G
23:57
1-2
1-1
0-0
+17
0
3
3
4
4
2
1
0
0
3


B. Forbes (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_bryn_forbes/index.html)
G
26:38
6-9
2-5
2-2
+26
0
8
8
0
2
0
0
0
0
16


Q. DeCosey (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_quenton_decosey/index.html)

17:05
3-6
0-1
2-2
+7
1
1
2
1
0
0
1
0
1
8


I. Gromovs (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_ilja_gromovs/index.html)

13:14
0-0
0-0
0-0
+1
1
2
3
1
3
1
1
1
0
0


W. Cummings (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_will_cummings/index.html)

16:39
3-8
1-5
0-0
-4
0
5
5
3
3
1
1
0
0
7


C. Williams (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_cj_williams/index.html)

16:51
3-5
3-4
2-3
-5
0
2
2
0
0
1
0
0
0
11


E. Wise (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_eric_wise/index.html)

06:14
0-0
0-0
2-2
-2
0
0
0
1
2
0
2
0
0
2


A. Rodriguez (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_angel_rodriguez/index.html)

04:07
0-1
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0


C. Lalanne (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_cady_lalanne/index.html)
DND - Coach's Decision


E. Lorbek (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sl_erazem_lorbek/index.html)
DND - Coach's Decision


Total

200
33-64
10-26
14-18

3
30
33
14
21
10
13
2
1
90



51.6%
38.5%
77.8%

team rebs: 8
total to: 13




Thanks for sharing Ace. Much appreciated. :tu

[wildbill2u]

i'm convinced SAgirl is KA's girlfriend/wife/fiance/mother/aunt/cousin/sister
Sounds like an Arkansas family.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Why didn't Murray play?

[Mr. Body]

Typical shit fans, spooging over Forbes and Simmons and shitting on Anderson and then you look at the box score...

[NASpurs]

There's nothing special about Arci but I thought he did a solid job running things.

[siraulo23]

forbes played pretty well

poor man's gary neal

ryan archi - sorry, this dude not gonna make it :lol

[Mr. Body]

Why didn't Murray play?

You're like the fifth person to ask. Read the fucking thread.

[NASpurs]

Why didn't Murray play?

He doesn't have a contract

[ElNono]

Why didn't Murray play?

not signed yet

[wildbill2u]

i'm convinced SAgirl is KA's girlfriend/wife/fiance/mother/aunt/cousin/sister

Sounds like an Arkansas family.

[sasaint]

Anderson/Simmons/Arc/Forbes can stay. The rest of y'all can clean up your lockers and go home.

:lol But we need at least 5 for the next game. Williams can stay, too.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

You're like the fifth person to ask. Read the fucking thread.

Fuck you, busy with other things.

[ElNono]

Typical shit fans, spooging over Forbes and Simmons and shitting on Anderson and then you look at the box score...

I didn't like Simms either, to be fair. They were playing basically a d-league team with one NBA sophomore in Trey Lyles. You would expect the boxscore to look like that.

[Mr. Body]

Fuck you, busy with other things.

I bet.

[SAGirl]

I just saw Cady was DND coach.. he's got to be injured right? I found it odd he wasn't there.

[Kawhitstorm]

He didn't last season either, didn't stop him one bit. He'll be happy to play Bonner, tbh

Yeah, D-Worst/Diaw/Boban weren't on the roster last season.:rolleyes

[Chinook]

Agreed. We need shooters. It's just one game, and against a team that only had 1 semi-NBA guy out there, but if his shooting holds, he'll be a good grab.

It's not even just his shooting. It's his in-between game. He's not a Danny Green--like spot-up guy. He's much more like Neal, except he seems willing to stick his nose in there for rebounds and on defense. I want to see him as a bigger part of the offense going forward, and I hope Becky draws a lot of plays up for him as the real SL roster arrives for Vegas.

[NASpurs]

I just saw Cady was DND coach.. he's got to be injured right? I found it odd he wasn't there.

Unless they're saving him for the Vegas league and want to give minutes to other guys. Cady is more known than those other guys.

[sasaint]

Fuck you, busy with other things.

Murray is not yet under contract.

[Chinook]

There's nothing special about Arci but I thought he did a solid job running things.

I like his intangibles, but I don't really know why the team gave him a TC contract over Forbes. He didn't get to show too many PG skills with the gameplan of passing to Anderson every possession, but I just don't see him making it.

[RD2191]

How come Murray isn't playing?

[ElNono]

Yeah, D-Worst/Diaw/Boban weren't on the roster last season.:rolleyes

That's the point. He actually overplayed D-Worst to rest guys like LMA, who used to play 44 mins a game.

But you go ahead and think Pop is going to change his ways because player X likes to play more minutes :rolleyes

[TheGoldStandard]

I like his intangibles, but I don't really know why the team gave him a TC contract over Forbes. He didn't get to show too many PG skills with the gameplan of passing to Anderson every possession, but I just don't see him making it.

Reverse Affirmative action?

[Mr. Body]

How come Murray isn't playing?

He died.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Why did Murray not play?

[Chinook]

I just saw Cady was DND coach.. he's got to be injured right? I found it odd he wasn't there.

I think they wanted to see Anderson at the four tonight. I don't expect Kyle to play past Utah, and I think there's a good chance that LJC, Murray, Milutinov and maybe even Bertans and Hanga could be on that Vegas roster. I think once the real games start, he'll be there.

[sasaint]

I like his intangibles, but I don't really know why the team gave him a TC contract over Forbes. He didn't get to show too many PG skills with the gameplan of passing to Anderson every possession, but I just don't see him making it.

Agreed. Looked to me like they gave the TC contract to the wrong guy.

[Kawhitstorm]

That's the point. He actually overplayed D-Worst to rest guys like LMA, who used to play 44 mins a game.

But you go ahead and think Pop is going to change his ways because player X likes to play more minutes :rolleyes

Pop is going to be FORCED to play Pau just like he was forced to play Tim against OKC.

[NASpurs]

I like his intangibles, but I don't really know why the team gave him a TC contract over Forbes. He didn't get to show too many PG skills with the gameplan of passing to Anderson every possession, but I just don't see him making it.

Yeah it was basically giving it to Anderson or Simmons and getting out of the way. Forbes was far more impressive especially with that midrange game. He seems kind of small though, like Patty.

*Edit* wtf, he's 6'3"? Don't know why he looked really small to me.

[Chinook]

Reverse Affirmative action?

He is the best PG on the roster, so I don't think it's that per se. He should do a decent job running the third or fourth team in camp, but he doesn't have any single reason why he should make the final roster yet. Plenty of time to show us a reason, but I'm doubting it.

[toki9]

The Spurs should guarantee as much of the first season of Forbes' contract that it takes to bring him into camp. If he doesn't make it, you eat the money. But he has a skill-set the team desperately needs to develop.

This article makes it sound like he already has some sort of contract with the Spurs: http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2016/07/03/couch-column-bryn-forbes-spurs-nba-summer-league/86638902/

"The Spurs went a bit further, giving Forbes a one-year contract. If he makes their roster in training camp, he’ll earn the rookie minimum salary, around $543,000. If he doesn’t, he’ll still be under contract with the Spurs, paid enough to agree to stay with the organization for one year — even if it’s spent in the D-League — instead of going overseas and perhaps making six-figures there."

[Chinook]

Yeah it was basically giving it to Anderson or Simmons and getting out of the way. Forbes was far more impressive especially with that midrange game. He seems kind of small though, like Patty.

Forbes and Arcidiacono are both listed at 6-3, which is pretty close to Neal. Dunno how accurate that is, but if it is, then they are more Parker's size than Mills'.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Has Kyle added a jumpshot or is he just doing his Slow-Mo-SummerleagueMVP thing without any noticeable change?


I'll try find my answer in the thread also.

[SAGirl]

I didn't like Simms either, to be fair. They were playing basically a d-league team with one NBA sophomore in Trey Lyles. You would expect the boxscore to look like that.
You could look it at it like this. Many passes they made, specially Kyle who passed to a big inside, didn't turn into anything bc those bigs could not convert. You have to see their games sort of in context. Many plays I saw would have looked better with better teammates.

Trey Lyles made a few 3s early then faded. Kyle got the better of him most of the time and then didn't help off him, which didn't leave him any other open shots... but you discard that is if nothing. I think Simms is pretty much what he is, no surprise there he's going to be 27. His shot is to be the best he can be at his game and not passing 3s.

Kyle has changed in two seasons from the scrawny kid who was 20 years when we saw in 2014. Its been so gradual that it doesn't stand out. But him taking 3s off a screen, that is nothing you saw last season. He finished some hook shots with guys all over him. I think if he hadn't added strength, he would not have been finishing those. Two years ago, he wasn't putting together games like that in SL, plus all the nice passes he had. I think as spurfan, you have been spoiled. Not all bigs have that passing ability. Guys were getting overpaid millions bc they had a game like Kyle has. Remains very unappreciated here.

All of this helps I believe, tremendously.

[NASpurs]

Forbes and Arcidiacono are both listed at 6-3, which is pretty close to Neal. Dunno how accurate that is, but if it is, then they are more Parker's size than Mills'.

Man yeah, I just checked after replying to you and he is listed at 6'3". He looked much smaller to me for some reason. Arci looked small to me too, don't know what it is.

[Chinook]

This article makes it sound like he already has some sort of contract with the Spurs: http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2016/07/03/couch-column-bryn-forbes-spurs-nba-summer-league/86638902/

"The Spurs went a bit further, giving Forbes a one-year contract. If he makes their roster in training camp, he’ll earn the rookie minimum salary, around $543,000. If he doesn’t, he’ll still be under contract with the Spurs, paid enough to agree to stay with the organization for one year — even if it’s spent in the D-League — instead of going overseas and perhaps making six-figures there."

Wait, that's actually a REALLY big deal. It says that they guaranteed his first year. That's crazy. It also said that he agreed to stay in SA/Austin even if he's cut. That would mean essentially being like Cady last year, but without anything binding. I assume that article is just messing up a few things, but if not, it's fascinating. There's a legit chance Forbes is on the roster in November. I will say, though, that they better have locked him up to two or three years if they are guaranteeing that much. Makes no sense to sign him to a sort deal but pay him as if he had leverage.

[Ron Swanson]

Why did Murray not play?

We traded him for LeBron. Expect LeBron to play in Vegas. He needs the extra work.

[ElNono]

Pop is going to be FORCED to play Pau just like he was forced to play Tim against OKC.

I said last season, not last series. We're not discussing matchups, we're discussing a coach that likes to rest his players, no matter the age, but especially if they're old.

Tim, Tony, Manu, LMA, Kawhi, even Danny Green received the resting treatment all season long. That means our bench/secondary players have to be above average.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

I wanted to see either of those guys looking like they have a season or two in the NBA under their belts. You know, actually standing out from this crud of D-Leaguers. There's no such thing here, unfortunately. They might score 20, but because they're the go to guys, not because they're dominating. I didn't expect either to look like Kawhi in his summer league, but more than just same old same old. Kyle looks different physically and that's it. He's the least of my worried though, since he'll be parked behind Kawhi anyways.

The Spurs will have to look somewhere else if they want to have a competitive bench this season. Like I said, I hope Murray stands out, maybe Cady has taken a step forward. Otherwise, if Boris is really gone, it's gonna be problematic.

They've roided him up? GOOD!

[Spur|n|Austin]

We traded him for LeBron. Expect LeBron to play in Vegas. He needs the extra work.

Gotcha, thanks!

[SAGirl]

I think they wanted to see Anderson at the four tonight. I don't expect Kyle to play past Utah, and I think there's a good chance that LJC, Murray, Milutinov and maybe even Bertans and Hanga could be on that Vegas roster. I think once the real games start, he'll be there.
Looking forward to that. I saw somewhere a tweet someone posted that Hanga is playing with the Hungarian team somewhere. It's buried/embedded in the general offseason thread impossible to find. I agree that the Boris trade made Pop play Anderson exclusively as a 4. Still Cady can and has played the 5. It was odd. But you might be right, considering the way contracts turned out as we all as trades, they might just want to see Kyle all of his time here as a 4, which would leave other guys out of opportunities. I hope Cady is fine and there are no contract issues too like with Murray.

[Kawhitstorm]

I said last season, not last series. We're not discussing matchups, we're discussing a coach that likes to rest his players, no matter the age, but especially if they're old.

Tim, Tony, Manu, LMA, Kawhi, even Danny Green received the resting treatment all season long. That means our bench/secondary players have to be above average.

Pau isn't playing less than 30 min & will get maybe about 5 "rest" games.

[ElNono]

You could look it at it like this. Many passes they made, specially Kyle who passed to a big inside, didn't turn into anything bc those bigs could not convert. You have to see their games sort of in context. Many plays I saw would have looked better with better teammates.

Trey Lyles made a few 3s early then faded. Kyle got the better of him most of the time and then didn't help off him, which didn't leave him any other open shots... but you discard that is if nothing. I think Simms is pretty much what he is, no surprise there he's going to be 27. His shot is to be the best he can be at his game and not passing 3s.

Kyle has changed in two seasons from the scrawny kid who was 20 years when we saw in 2014. Its been so gradual that it doesn't stand out. But him taking 3s off a screen, that is nothing you saw last season. He finished some hook shots with guys all over him. I think if he hadn't added strength, he would not have been finishing those. Two years ago, he wasn't putting together games like that in SL, plus all the nice passes he had. I think as spurfan, you have been spoiled. Not all bigs have that passing ability. Guys were getting overpaid millions bc they had a game like Kyle has. Remains very unappreciated here.

All of this helps I believe, tremendously.

Hope I'm wrong, tbh. Kyle looked the same slow ass guy, who needs the rock on offense, and likes to gamble on defense. Basically, the last two seasons Kyle Anderson. Simms looked the same out of control guy that mixes highlight reel finishes with turnovers. Basically, last season Simmons.

I'm not comparing each other, because it makes no sense and it's pointless, this isn't a competition between them. I'm not hating either, I would've loved to see them much further along the road, because that's what's good for the team.
Lyles might've faded, but was the only guy on the floor with a double-double, IIRC. Those 3 were the best players on the floor, which is what you expect. But none of them were "dominant", which I was hoping to see, at least from Kyle/Simms.

[palangi]

I think they wanted to see Anderson at the four tonight. I don't expect Kyle to play past Utah, and I think there's a good chance that LJC, Murray, Milutinov and maybe even Bertans and Hanga could be on that Vegas roster. I think once the real games start, he'll be there.

I hope so.

[Chinook]

Looking forward to that. I saw somewhere a tweet someone posted that Hanga is playing with the Hungarian team somewhere. It's buried/embedded in the general offseason thread impossible to find. I agree that the Boris trade made Pop play Anderson exclusively as a 4. Still Cady can and has played the 5. It was odd. But you might be right, considering the way contracts turned out as we all as trades, they might just want to see Kyle all of his time here as a 4, which would leave other guys out of opportunities. I hope Cady is fine and there are no contract issues too like with Murray.

Cady has no leverage right now. The Spurs don't have a hold for him, and he can't even force a tender until September. So if he doesn't want to play until he gets guaranteed money, then he won't play. No one really cares.

[ElNono]

Pau isn't playing less than 30 min & will get maybe about 5 "rest" games.

LMA went from 36+ mpg in Portland to barely over 30 mpg (30.6) last season. And he's 30 years old.

The good news for Pop is that 98% of the league is shit, so he might be able to get away with it. I just don't think it's going to work long-term.

[DPG21920]

LMA went from 36+ mpg in Portland to barely over 30 mpg (30.6) last season. And he's 30 years old.

The good news for Pop is that 98% of the league is shit, so he might be able to get away with it. I just don't think it's going to work long-term.

Well, Pop works with what he has. If the bench doesn't get a lot more interesting, especially with big men, then Pop may not be able to afford to rest Pau/LMA as much. Who will he play? No Tim, no Boris, no West and maybe no Boban :lol

[ElNono]

Well, Pop works with what he has. If the bench doesn't get a lot more interesting, especially with big men, then Pop may not be able to afford to rest Pau/LMA as much. Who will he play? No Tim, no Boris, no West and maybe no Boban :lol

That's what I was saying. We have Boban(?) and Bonner, basically. That's what started this whole convo, that if some of these guys on the SL don't start to look good soon, PATFO is going to have their work cut out for them to put some semblance of talent off the bench, especially if Boris is really gone.

[DPG21920]

That's what I was saying. We have Boban and Bonner, basically. That's what started this whole convo, that if some of these guys on the SL don't start to look good soon, PATFO is going to have their work cut out for them to put some semblance of talent off the bench, especially if Boris is really gone.

True - but the off season is not over yet. Let's see what SA gets for Boris if anything. Let's see if they waive/stretch Tim (or maybe he plays although doubtful). Let's see how much money they truly open up here and who they can sign.

[Keepin' it real]

Typical shit fans, spooging over Forbes and Simmons and shitting on Anderson and then you look at the box score...

Points, rebounds and assists are meaningless, didn't you know???

[Kawhitstorm]

LMA went from 36+ mpg in Portland to barely over 30 mpg (30.6) last season. And he's 30 years old.

Yeah, they need Softridge to play 36 minutes when Boban was crushing the opposing team's backups.:lol
Tim at 38 averaged 29 minutes & played 77 games when Shitter had a bruised vagina.:wakeup

[SAGirl]

Hope I'm wrong, tbh. Kyle looked the same slow ass guy, who needs the rock on offense, and likes to gamble on defense. Basically, the last two seasons Kyle Anderson. Simms looked the same out of control guy that mixes highlight reel finishes with turnovers. Basically, last season Simmons.

I'm not comparing each other, because it makes no sense and it's pointless, this isn't a competition between them. I'm not hating either, I would've loved to see them much further along the road, because that's what's good for the team.
Lyles might've faded, but was the only guy on the floor with a double-double, IIRC. Those 3 were the best players on the floor, which is what you expect. But none of them were "dominant", which I was hoping to see, at least from Kyle/Simms.
Fair enough and I do believe you are not hating. Kyle will always be too slow for your eye test. The issue is can he play? And the question is in the NBA, not here. He dominated here when he was younger and skinnier already. I didn't think being in Summer League would answer that question or that it would help him much TBH. The only purpose I saw in this was to get him repetition and experience as a 4. He has more work to do, but he was guarding (attached basically) to Lyles in the perimeter once he got hot. He wasn't in the paint to grab boards as much.

Simms I think has improved a lot over the course of 2 years too. I had seen him in the dleague a lot and the only thing that stood out was the athleticism. He didn't handle the ball as much, he played mostly off the ball and his on the ball play turned into TO quickly. Still does, but he's improved. He has improved his PnR reads too. The question with him is how much more he can continue to improve. Playing off the ball in the big team he won't be doing as much as here. Maybe Summer League doesn't answer many questions concerning him either bc the role he has here is not the one he figures to have with the big team.

Let's wait to see Murray too. I have low expectations for him, so I won't be disappointed. He's still very young. There are a lot of other young players joining us in Vegas to be excited about.

[montgod]

Ah man, lol, what the hell was that?

Come on... she had a stroke obviously. Not a laughing matter

[ElNono]

Yeah, they need Softridge to play 36 minutes when Boban was crushing the opposing team's backups.:lol
Tim at 38 averaged 29 minutes & played 77 games when Shitter had a bruised vagina.:wakeup

That's exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't matter how much Pau "wants to play". Pop is going to rest him, and hopefully we'll have guys like Boban back that can give us something off the bench, especially if Boris is gone.

Main reason I was hoping to see some promising talent in these games, we don't have a lot of dough, as far as I understand, and some of these guys might end up being the filler that actually becomes our bench.

[sasaint]

Fair enough and I do believe you are not hating. Kyle will always be too slow for your eye test. The issue is can he play? And the question is in the NBA, not here. He dominated here when he was younger and skinnier already. I didn't think being in Summer League would answer that question or that it would help him much TBH. The only purpose I saw in this was to get him repetition and experience as a 4. He has more work to do, but he was guarding (attached basically) to Lyles in the perimeter once he got hot. He wasn't in the paint to grab boards as much.

Simms I think has improved a lot over the course of 2 years too. I had seen him in the dleague a lot and the only thing that stood out was the athleticism. He didn't handle the ball as much, he played mostly off the ball and his on the ball play turned into TO quickly. Still does, but he's improved. He has improved his PnR reads too. The question with him is how much more he can continue to improve. Playing off the ball in the big team he won't be doing as much as here. Maybe Summer League doesn't answer many questions concerning him either bc the role he has here is not the one he figures to have with the big team.

Let's wait to see Murray too. I have low expectations for him, so I won't be disappointed. He's still very young. There are a lot of other young players joining us in Vegas to be excited about.

You think that PATFO wants Simmons to be an off-the-ball player in SA? But it was his court vision and passing skill (in addition to his athleticism) that gained attention and praise to begin with. Doesn't that imply playing with the ball more than not? Tbh, I am having a harder and harder time envisioning what his niche is. Even though I once thought he was a near lock for Spurs TNG, I am starting to have doubts. In order to have a spot in the rotation and help the team, he will have to have a much better 3-point shot and be much more willing to take it than he continues to show - if his niche is off the ball.

[Obstructed_View]

I had tix to go see it. However, after seeing no Bertans and no Murray, fuck that shit. I don't wanna waste my time watching the slow Fat Head crawl up the court for 2 hours.

You'd have liked his jump shot. Looks a lot better.

[Kawhitstorm]

That's exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't matter how much Pau "wants to play". Pop is going to rest him, and hopefully we'll have guys like Boban back that can give us something off the bench, especially if Boris is gone.

How in the hell is averaging 30 minutes for 77 games resting for a 36 year old center?:lol (While playing for a team fighting for its playoff lives, Dirk at 36 averaged 29.6 minutes & played 77 games without having to bang w/ centers)


Main reason I was hoping to see some promising talent in these games, we don't have a lot of dough, as far as I understand, and some of these guys might end up being the filler that actually becomes our bench.

All the bigs are shitty & the perimeter players make Kyle/Simmons seem like Lebron/Wade.:lol

Jarnell Stokes is a talented big who isn't in the league b/c he's undersized & an average athlete but he can eat regular season minutes like Blair. Hopefully, PATFO pick him up after they dump Diaw.

OvyXi58BWWQ

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You'd have liked his jump shot. Looks a lot better.

A fair chunk of ST is going to have to eat crow as KA develops into a solid player. ;)

[Obstructed_View]

Anybody know what the fucking holdup is on Dejounte's contract? I'd really like to see him play.

[Obstructed_View]

A fair chunk of ST is going to have to eat crow as KA develops into a solid player. ;)

No they won't. They'll do the same thing they did with Cory Joseph: Shit on him until he leaves and then say how stupid the Spurs are for letting him go.

[SPURt]

Come on... she had a stroke obviously. Not a laughing matter
No, she had a migraine and that was the outcome. She was fine afterwards.

[Chinook]

Anybody know what the fucking holdup is on Dejounte's contract? I'd really like to see him play.

The Spurs save about $200k by signing him after using their cap space, and Rich Paul won't let him play without a signed contract because he's an asshole.

[SAGirl]

Damn I need to change my avatar..

Yes, change it! Put Pau in there!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

No they won't. They'll do the same thing they did with Cory Joseph: Shit on him until he leaves and then say how stupid the Spurs are for letting him go.

Sad but true.

[SpursforSix]

The Spurs save about $200k by signing him after using their cap space, and Rich Paul won't let him play without a signed contract because he's an asshole.

Why does that make him an asshole? If he played without a contract and then got injured, he'd be fucked right?

[Obstructed_View]

Why does that make him an asshole? If he played without a contract and then got injured, he'd be fucked right?

I don't think so. First round picks have set salaries, right?

[Chinook]

Why does that make him an asshole? If he played without a contract and then got injured, he'd be fucked right?

No. Teams don't screw over their guys that way, especially for how cheap they are.

[ElNono]

How in the hell is averaging 30 minutes for 77 games resting for a 36 year old center?:lol (While playing for a team fighting for its playoff lives, Dirk at 36 averaged 29.6 minutes & played 77 games without having to bang w/ centers)

Pau averaged nearly 35mpg a season ago (34 years old). And how about LMA? averaging 30mpg at 29 years old. Pop is just going to rest guys, sometimes he won't even play them for an entire game. That's all great when you a top bench in the league, but right now we're not looking all that pretty in that department. Obviously, the fact that 90% of the league sucks will help, but you just can't take that for granted.


All the bigs are shitty & the perimeter players make Kyle/Simmons seem like Lebron/Wade.:lol

Jarnell Stokes is a talented big who isn't in the league b/c he's undersized & an average athlete but he can eat regular season minutes like Blair. Hopefully, PATFO pick him up after they dump Diaw.

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That's what I'm saying, PATFO better start looking around, because there doesn't seem to be a lot of keepers here (albeit, there's some guys still to watch).

[SpursforSix]

I don't think so. First round picks have set salaries, right?

I don't know. So there are no negotiations?

Even so, if he hasn't signed a contract, I suppose they could still leave him hanging. Not that the Spurs would do that. But an agent is supposed to protect his players best interest.

[Obstructed_View]

No. Teams don't screw over their guys that way, especially for how cheap they are.

I think if a team tried to do that they'd get smashed by both the league and the players union.

[ElNono]

A fair chunk of ST is going to have to eat crow as KA develops into a solid player. ;)

I hope so. I think it's the right time for him to confirm he's an NBA-caliber talent. Otherwise, the Spurs should just move on to another experiment.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pau averaged nearly 35mpg a season ago (34 years old). And how about LMA? averaging 30mpg at 29 years old.

You best bet LMA is going to be playing at least 33 minutes this season.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

I hope so. I think it's the right time for him to confirm he's an NBA-caliber talent. Otherwise, the Spurs should just move on to another experiment.

Without Diaw, he's going to get as many touches as he wants. This is a lost season so might as well develop Kyle/Murray.

[Obstructed_View]

I don't know. So there are no negotiations?

Well clearly his agent knows more about it than I do. I guess if there were no risk there'd be no reason to hold him back. I'm just super biased because summer league is my time, and I want to see him fucking play. :)

[SpursforSix]

Well clearly his agent knows more about it than I do. I guess if there were no risk there'd be no reason to hold him back. I'm just super biased because summer league is my time, and I want to see him fucking play. :)

Same. I'm dying to see what he's got. :hungry:

[SAGirl]

You think that PATFO wants Simmons to be an off-the-ball player in SA? But it was his court vision and passing skill (in addition to his athleticism) that gained attention and praise to begin with. Doesn't that imply playing with the ball more than not? Tbh, I am having a harder and harder time envisioning what his niche is. Even though I once thought he was a near lock for Spurs TNG, I am starting to have doubts. In order to have a spot in the rotation and help the team, he will have to have a much better 3-point shot and be much more willing to take it than he continues to show - if his niche is off the ball.
I don't know what to tell you. I never saw him the way you saw him becasue I had seen a lot of him from before and I knew his ballhandling wasn't up to par to be a quasi PG. He played as a SF in the dleague off the ball. They started towards the end of his last season there to give him the ball and he was a TO machine. Literally ball pressure? equalled TO. He has improved. Believe you me, he was worse. But I thought last season and still think he was running out of time to improve that sufficiently to be the main ballhandler bc he's old. The offense if you saw it features a lot of cutting and PnR. I think Simmons will get handled the ball to run a PnR here or there, but he won't be a quasi PG.

The leader of that unit, if he ever achieves his potential is Anderson. I know ppl don't see it like I saw it... but Kyle has been punking fools at this rate for all his young career. You see him slow and you think he can't play then bam! First he's won the game, second you look at his stats and where is this stud? He was played off others and not ideally last season. I have been saying this before but ppl are tired of me at this point so whatever.

I think Simmons benefits from cuts off the ball out of post up players who can pass to him. We saw a lot of plays like this in the RS with Kawhi and even LMA. We saw Kyle and Andre Mille throw lobs to him. He's a monster in transition and in the open court. He has game. It's just not the Manu game. He can pass the basketball within the offense. But between me and you, Pop praised him a lot bc Simmons had major confidence issues.

[NASpurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSHex4dFYAU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhCdtVia6Ks

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSHex4dFYAU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhCdtVia6Ks


Thanks for posting.

KA's stroke looks different (better) with a quicker release. That last 3 looked Kawhi-esque. Chip's been doing work.

Simmons looked the same as last SL.

[spurs10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSHex4dFYAU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhCdtVia6Ks Yeah thanks for this. Was wanting to watch the game. Is there somewhere other than NBA-TV where we can watch?

[ElNono]

Yeah thanks for this. Was wanting to watch the game. Is there somewhere other than NBA-TV where we can watch?

ESPN3... aka watchespn.com

[SnakeBoy]

I hope so. I think it's the right time for him to confirm he's an NBA-caliber talent. Otherwise, the Spurs should just move on to another experiment.

He's not an experiment, KA's already confirmed he's an NBA talent. The only question is how good can he become. Shit some team probably would have given him 5-8 million/yr this summer if he had been a free agent.

[toki9]

I don't think so. First round picks have set salaries, right?

First round picks can sign for as much as 120% and as little as 80% of the rookie scale...so there's some negotiation.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle Anderson:
• Manure is holding this nigga back. He also found his right place, playing against D-League scrubs :tu

Bryn Forbes:
• Looks like Neal 2.0, if he keeps playing like this we might've found our third string SG.

Jonathon Simmons:
• Good as usual, need to see him with the ball on his hand more. Kyle needs to share.

Erazem Lorbek:
• What a waste of time this pussy is. Where the fuck is Ndoye?

Alex Kirk:
• Really needs to change his profession. Worst player on the court.

Ryan Arcidiacono:
• Not that impressive, tbh.

[Obstructed_View]

First round picks can sign for as much as 120% and as little as 80% of the rookie scale...so there's some negotiation.

I assumed there was some kind of participation agreement with the union like the NFL has. I guess with all the money being strewn about the place, they didn't bother to look out for a draft pick that blows out his knee in summer league.

[Obstructed_View]

Jonathon Simmons:
• Good as usual, need to see him with the ball on his hand more.

:lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I hope so. I think it's the right time for him to confirm he's an NBA-caliber talent. Otherwise, the Spurs should just move on to another experiment.

He's improving. He's unlikely to ever start, but if he improves his shot might be a fine 7th guy some time soon. And he's cheap as chips. All the hate for a guy who was a 29th pick and doesn't even touch the cap is way overblown for mine.

[Obstructed_View]

He's improving. He's unlikely to ever start, but if he improves his shot might be a fine 7th guy some time soon. And he's cheap as chips. All the hate for a guy who was a 29th pick and doesn't even touch the cap is way overblown for mine.

But his nickname, dude. He can't play. Look at his nickname!

[NickiRasgo]

Is Bryn Forbes could be a Courtney Lee v2.0? Or poor's man version.

[NikosChelsea7]

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[Chinook]

First round picks can sign for as much as 120% and as little as 80% of the rookie scale...so there's some negotiation.


I assumed there was some kind of participation agreement with the union like the NFL has. I guess with all the money being strewn about the place, they didn't bother to look out for a draft pick that blows out his knee in summer league.

There is room for negotiation, but not really. Players get the full 120 percent literally 99 percent of the time. The Spurs are pretty well known for not doing it, and that may be the case here. But Buford said it was a timing issue, which to me simply means that they are trying to use his hold rather than his real salary. That's standard and really shouldn't cause issues, but again, Paul is an asshole. He's not looking out for his player, seeing as the summer league is a League-sponsored activity and a team would absolutely be responsible if the player got injured.

What he's doing is creating an antagonistic relationship between the player and the team from jump street. That may make sense in some organizations, but the Spurs treat their players like family for the most part. Instead of coming off like the protective guardian he's supposed to be, Paul is coming off like a girlfriend who's always trying to get you to not hang out with people she disapproves of.

[BillMc]

750262281204801538

Damn! I want the Spurs to bring over Nikola. Get on the phone R.C.!

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSHex4dFYAU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhCdtVia6Ks

Thanks for posting

[ceperez]

Thanks for posting

The last 3 point shot by anderson from the dribble.... that is what I want to see!

[BillMc]

The last 3 point shot by anderson from the dribble.... that is what I want to see!

+1 million.

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRAFfRzh3Og

Missed a couple of shots I REALLY wanted him to hit, but yeah, he's hopefully everything Eddie was with a couple of other skills added in.

[sasaint]

I don't know what to tell you. I never saw him the way you saw him becasue I had seen a lot of him from before and I knew his ballhandling wasn't up to par to be a quasi PG. He played as a SF in the dleague off the ball. They started towards the end of his last season there to give him the ball and he was a TO machine. Literally ball pressure? equalled TO. He has improved. Believe you me, he was worse. But I thought last season and still think he was running out of time to improve that sufficiently to be the main ballhandler bc he's old. The offense if you saw it features a lot of cutting and PnR. I think Simmons will get handled the ball to run a PnR here or there, but he won't be a quasi PG.

The leader of that unit, if he ever achieves his potential is Anderson. I know ppl don't see it like I saw it... but Kyle has been punking fools at this rate for all his young career. You see him slow and you think he can't play then bam! First he's won the game, second you look at his stats and where is this stud? He was played off others and not ideally last season. I have been saying this before but ppl are tired of me at this point so whatever.

I think Simmons benefits from cuts off the ball out of post up players who can pass to him. We saw a lot of plays like this in the RS with Kawhi and even LMA. We saw Kyle and Andre Mille throw lobs to him. He's a monster in transition and in the open court. He has game. It's just not the Manu game. He can pass the basketball within the offense. But between me and you, Pop praised him a lot bc Simmons had major confidence issues.

I think you and I have always had very similar opinions of Kyle. But I think I am beginning to see Simmons more in the same light in which you see him.

[tholdren]

The offseason is going as expected:
1. Didnt get that Loser Duoucherant - POSITIVE
2. Possibly Losing Diaw - POSITIVE
3. Drafting some POS - NEGATIVE
4. Signing Pau - POSITIVE
5. Possibly Losing West - EXTREME POSITIVE

Overall if the above pan out then the only "downfall" is the draft, which is always a downfall. Great offseason for the spurs. Get rid of the two fatties

[ceperez]

Didn't know that Bryn Forbes was signed for a year contract!

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2016/07/03/couch-column-bryn-forbes-spurs-nba-summer-league/86638902/

Well, NICE PICKUP! Steph Curry clone in the making!

[ceperez]

Wait, that's actually a REALLY big deal. It says that they guaranteed his first year. That's crazy. It also said that he agreed to stay in SA/Austin even if he's cut. That would mean essentially being like Cady last year, but without anything binding. I assume that article is just messing up a few things, but if not, it's fascinating. There's a legit chance Forbes is on the roster in November. I will say, though, that they better have locked him up to two or three years if they are guaranteeing that much. Makes no sense to sign him to a sort deal but pay him as if he had leverage.

Chip Engeland saw his shooting form .... and approved it. Garry Neal 2.0

[sasaint]

Chip Engeland saw his shooting form .... and approved it. Garry Neal 2.0

Neal is not overly optimistic, Courtney Lee might be.

[ceperez]

Neal is not overly optimistic, Courtney Lee might be.

Lee was drafted and is 6'5". Neal was undrafted. I think Forbes has better handles and knows how to space the floor better. Can't say if he can shoot better.

[sasaint]

Lee was drafted and is 6'5". Neal was undrafted. I think Forbes has better handles and knows how to space the floor better. Can't say if he can shoot better.

Based on a micro-sample, I like to think Forbes also has better BBIQ than Neal. Hoping. But we shall see...

[ceperez]

Based on a micro-sample, I like to think Forbes also has better BBIQ than Neal. Hoping. But we shall see...

Just compared profile of Forbes vs Curry. Same height, Forbes has wider wingspan but Curry is more athletic.

[sasaint]

Just compared profile of Forbes vs Curry. Same height, Forbes has wider wingspan but Curry is more athletic.

Now that's an optimistic comparison. I like it! :lol