The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[Obstructed_View]

He has been pushed out by every single player.
He is so weak it's insane.

But even if ... He can still put some decent numbers.

His D has ways to go tbh. He is not good rebounder. But again with more syrengthhe will be able to rebound better and have better positions on the court.

Bad thing though is that his impact is not bringing wins... Je is just another player.
God damn dude. Did he fuck your mom?

He is not good rebounder. :lmao

[polandprzem]

oh I understood fine, you are a moron
You seem to be frustrated

[polandprzem]

God damn dude. Did he fuck your mom?

He is not good rebounder. :lmao
15th in nba a 7 4

Have you seen his rebs?

[polandprzem]

What else? His impact?
12 loses in a row. -13 pts differential. Last in NBA. Is that his impact?

[polandprzem]

114th in NBA FG%

[polandprzem]

45th in points

[polandprzem]

Hold you horses. earon Fox can box him out now.

Laughable that you cant see it

[Joseph Kony]

:lol are all polish people as dumb as you?

[Joseph Kony]

God damn dude. Did he fuck your mom?

He is not good rebounder. :lmao

Fr...dude is 15th in the entire league in rebounding, playing less minutes than 11 of the players above him, while Pop has him out on the perimeter most of the game as A ROOKIE :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

15th in nba a 7 4

Have you seen his rebs?

Yeah, dumbfuck, he's FUCKING FIFTEENTH IN THE NBA.

[Leetonidas]

He's 7'4 so he should be tops in rebounding is such a casual level take :lol

[Splits]

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[spurraider21]

After 3 days off?

:lol

[exstatic]

God damn dude. Did he fuck your mom?

He is not good rebounder. :lmao

The ONE thing where he exceeded my expectations was rebounding. Grabbing 9.5 in 30 mins is way more than I thought he would.

[Obstructed_View]

The ONE thing where he exceeded my expectations was rebounding. Grabbing 9.5 in 30 mins is way more than I thought he would.
From an eye-test standpoint, he has lived up to all my expectations. His numbers are pretty good, considering it's been kind of a rough start. I'd love more wins, and the defense is really disappointing, but I'm pretty thrilled watching what he can do at 19.

[Thomas82]

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Say what??

[spursparker9]

Tank mode is on :lol

[Pauleta14]

That would've been a perfect matchup for Wemby to have monster stats...

[thiste]

For polandprzem:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJNZhWcAEfDm5.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJOF7XcAEkknS.jpg

Still top 5 in total assists:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJU_-W4AAzaAT.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJVzcXcAAOuMD.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJaQIW8AA_-pq.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJa7jXIAAUuzE.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJjDTXwAEsGrB.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJjteWAAA2toL.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJnsDWIAAiqii.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIJpO0XsAAy5Oj.jpg

[ambchang]

Tacko fall should’ve led the league in rebounding because he’s 7’6”

[Obstructed_View]

We seen Bol Bol. It's all the same.

[thiste]

21 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals in 29 minutes.

[Thomas82]

21 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals in 29 minutes.

It'll be nice when his conditioning gets good enough for him to play more minutes.

[Thomas82]

As of tonight's games, Wemby leads the NBA in blocks per game at 2.72. Brook Lopez is 2nd at 2.68, and Anthony Davis is 3rd at 2.55. Wemby has played 1 fewer game than Lopez and 2 fewer than AD.

[NASpurs]

Can you be DPOY in a bottom five defensive team? :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Can you be DPOY in a bottom five defensive team? :lol
DPOY is a stats-only award, because 90 percent of the voters wouldn't know defense if it shit on their pillow.

[Seventyniner]

As of tonight's games, Wemby leads the NBA in blocks per game at 2.72. Brook Lopez is 2nd at 2.68, and Anthony Davis is 3rd at 2.55. Wemby has played 1 fewer game than Lopez and 2 fewer than AD.

Since Wemby hasn't missed any games, he would have the lead in total blocks at the end of the season if these averages continue and nobody misses any games. And I would expect AD (often injured) and Lopez (old or rest) to miss at least as many games as Wemby (Pop's load management hasn't reared its ugly head....yet).

iirc Wemby was +2500 to lead the league in total blocks in preseason betting. I remember saying that seemed like insane value but as always I didn't actually pull the trigger. Damn.

[spurraider21]

Not playing vs pelicans today

[rjv]

i fully expected for wemby to rest tonight and i agree. if he was already experiencing hip tightness yesterday, why risk it? not to mention just how gassed he looked last night in the 2nd half.

[TDomination]

bummed that hes off today mostly because of his goal of trying to play every game this year.

but i know that in the long run its better for him.

[exstatic]

bummed that hes off today mostly because of his goal of trying to play every game this year.

but i know that in the long run its better for him.

Yeah, that was never going to happen. I’ll be elated with 70-75.

[polandprzem]

Yeah, dumbfuck, he's FUCKING FIFTEENTH IN THE NBA.
I used to think you was a decent dude

But looks like reaching a human level for you is too much

[Thomas82]

bummed that hes off today mostly because of his goal of trying to play every game this year.

but i know that in the long run its better for him.


Yeah, that was never going to happen. I’ll be elated with 70-75.

I didn't mind him sitting out tonight, especially since we got 2 extra games coming up.

[Thomas82]

Wemby averaged 20.1 points and 10.3 rebounds per game for the month of November, making him the youngest player in NBA history to average 20/10 in a calendar month.

[Obstructed_View]

I used to think you was a decent dude

But looks like reaching a human level for you is too much
Oh well. I used to think your talent-evaluation skills were better.

You've been bagging on him for a while. From a basketball-discussion standpoint, I'm frustrated and disappointed in you. You're still always welcome at my house and stuff, but my patience boiling over is on you. :lol

Seriously, he is amazing. The only thing more amazing is how low your opinion is of him and how unfair your criticisms are.

[polandprzem]

Tacko fall should’ve led the league in rebounding because he’s 7’6”

As long as he is projected as generational phenom

[polandprzem]

Oh well. I used to think your talent-evaluation skills were better.

You've been bagging on him for a while. From a basketball-discussion standpoint, I'm frustrated and disappointed in you. You're still always welcome at my house and stuff, but my patience boiling over is on you. :lol

Seriously, he is amazing. The only thing more amazing is how low your opinion is of him and how unfair your criticisms are.

I am a winner not a loser. I expect things that are to be expected. I point out weaknesses which are obvius. I can sit and watch game with anyone and make argument in every single one of it.
The highways he gives to opponents, lost rotations, help defense, jumping on pump fakes and jumpin without pump fakes. He rebounds okay but 50-50 balls - he is not very good at it.

All things to be learned by him. And he is able to do that.

I question his competitiveness now but we will see.


His lack of strength is his biggest weakness. In one of his games Pop was telling him to balance first or stabilize first.
Okay. But how can he do that when you need to be strong to establish. For a 19yro pro player he is too weak. Still though it's 2 year process to be in satisfying range.

He can i all those things. But I do not have pink glasses and I am not in awe that a pro player made a 3 pointer like Sean Elliott commenting he has never seen that. I mean wtf?

On a present we are the worst team in NBA and I write what I see not what is gonna suppose to be or what he will be cause we do not know the future.

I would like him to be a legend of this sport. He is not yet. We will know in 12-15 years.

[FrostKing]

I am a winner not a loser. I expect things that are to be expected. I point out weaknesses which are obvius. I can sit and watch game with anyone and make argument in every single one of it.
The highways he gives to opponents, lost rotations, help defense, jumping on pump fakes and jumpin without pump fakes. He rebounds okay but 50-50 balls - he is not very good at it.

All things to be learned by him. And he is able to do that.

I question his competitiveness now but we will see.


His lack of strength is his biggest weakness. In one of his games Pop was telling him to balance first or stabilize first.
Okay. But how can he do that when you need to be strong to establish. For a 19yro pro player he is too weak. Still though it's 2 year process to be in satisfying range.

He can i all those things. But I do not have pink glasses and I am not in awe that a pro player made a 3 pointer like Sean Elliott commenting he has never seen that. I mean wtf?

On a present we are the worst team in NBA and I write what I see not what is gonna suppose to be or what he will be cause we do not know the future.

I would like him to be a legend of this sport. He is not yet. We will know in 12-15 years.
Check your PMs

[ambchang]

As long as he is projected as generational phenom

So wemby is the only one.

[JeffDuncan]

…
But I do not have pink glasses …



The English expression is “rose colored glasses.” The rose traditionally represents beauty and good fortune. If a person wore rose colored glasses, he would see everything as favorable and attractive.

Similar expressions are “the outlook is rosy,” and “everything is coming up roses.” The word “pink” does not convey the idea.

I think the outlook is rosy for Victor. He is doing well under circumstances more adverse than he should have had to face.

The Spurs team around Victor has been disappointingly inept this season, so far. Also, the coaching has been surprisingly substandard. Despite those unexpected difficulties, he has shown each time he’s been on the court that he can exert a major influence on the opponent.

[ambchang]

I am a winner not a loser. I expect things that are to be expected. I point out weaknesses which are obvius. I can sit and watch game with anyone and make argument in every single one of it.
The highways he gives to opponents, lost rotations, help defense, jumping on pump fakes and jumpin without pump fakes. He rebounds okay but 50-50 balls - he is not very good at it.

All things to be learned by him. And he is able to do that.

I question his competitiveness now but we will see.


His lack of strength is his biggest weakness. In one of his games Pop was telling him to balance first or stabilize first.
Okay. But how can he do that when you need to be strong to establish. For a 19yro pro player he is too weak. Still though it's 2 year process to be in satisfying range.

He can i all those things. But I do not have pink glasses and I am not in awe that a pro player made a 3 pointer like Sean Elliott commenting he has never seen that. I mean wtf?

On a present we are the worst team in NBA and I write what I see not what is gonna suppose to be or what he will be cause we do not know the future.

I would like him to be a legend of this sport. He is not yet. We will know in 12-15 years.

I’m not really getting your argument. Are you saying you are seeing faults in his game? I mean no shit. Everyone does, even GOATs like Jordan, Lebron, duncan, Kareem and such had faults in their games.


If you are criticizing because he’s not perfect then it’s fine. But I think most people are being reasonable and pointing out that wemby is exceeding expectations despite his immense hype.

[Obstructed_View]

I am a winner not a loser. I expect things that are to be expected. I point out weaknesses which are obvius. I can sit and watch game with anyone and make argument in every single one of it.
The highways he gives to opponents, lost rotations, help defense, jumping on pump fakes and jumpin without pump fakes. He rebounds okay but 50-50 balls - he is not very good at it.

All things to be learned by him. And he is able to do that.

I question his competitiveness now but we will see.


His lack of strength is his biggest weakness. In one of his games Pop was telling him to balance first or stabilize first.
Okay. But how can he do that when you need to be strong to establish. For a 19yro pro player he is too weak. Still though it's 2 year process to be in satisfying range.

He can i all those things. But I do not have pink glasses and I am not in awe that a pro player made a 3 pointer like Sean Elliott commenting he has never seen that. I mean wtf?

On a present we are the worst team in NBA and I write what I see not what is gonna suppose to be or what he will be cause we do not know the future.

I would like him to be a legend of this sport. He is not yet. We will know in 12-15 years.
He is 19. He is raw. He is uncoached. He is on a team of young, raw, uncoached players. He isn't playing super well. He does indeed make mistakes. And he's putting up elite numbers while doing things nobody has ever done before, most certainly things no 19 year old has ever done.

Failing to acknowledge what he is doing well while screeching about what he does wrong is not what a winner does. He should be expected to have some growing pains. He has nobody who has played NBA basketball at a high level in his entire circle.

[ginobilized]

Wemby averaged 20.1 points and 10.3 rebounds per game for the month of November, making him the youngest player in NBA history to average 20/10 in a calendar month.

THIS!!!!

Just want to shine a light on these stats, in case they went unnoticed.

[widowmaker]

The English expression is “rose colored glasses.” The rose traditionally represents beauty and good fortune. If a person wore rose colored glasses, he would see everything as favorable and attractive.

Similar expressions are “the outlook is rosy,” and “everything is coming up roses.” The word “pink” does not convey the idea.

I think the outlook is rosy for Victor. He is doing well under circumstances more adverse than he should have had to face.

The Spurs team around Victor has been disappointingly inept this season, so far. Also, the coaching has been surprisingly substandard. Despite those unexpected difficulties, he has shown each time he’s been on the court that he can exert a major influence on the opponent.


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[JeffDuncan]

Brought to you by Chat GPT, Chat GPT when you are in a pinch and you need to fire off a quick response you can count AI on US.


Some of you guys can be so unintentionally hilarious!

That was boilerplate designed to communicate with a person whose native language is not English. If you really thought that was Chat GPT you may as well give up and let AI take over.

[Brazil]

I am a winner not a loser.

:lol funniest ST quote in a long time :lol

:cry I’m a winner, I win watching basketball and being tough on wemby :cry

:lmao

[widowmaker]

Some of you guys can be so unintentionally hilarious!

That was boilerplate designed to communicate with a person whose native language is not English. If you really thought that was Chat GPT you may as well give up and let AI take over.

Ill get back to you in a few hours I have to check with Chat GPT for my response.

[JeffDuncan]

Ill get back to you in a few hours I have to check with Chat GPT for my response.


You really can’t tell the difference? Lol. But by all means, if your brain can’t do the job then seek help wherever you might find it.

[widowmaker]

You really can’t tell the difference? Lol. But by all means, if your brain can’t do the job then seek help wherever you might find it.

Ok I checked with Chat GPT and it said you should have been swallowed.

[Obstructed_View]

:lol funniest ST quote in a long time :lol

:cry I’m a winner, I win watching basketball and being tough on wemby :cry

:lmao
The Polish Tiger Mom.

[KobesAchilles]

:lol funniest ST quote in a long time :lol

:cry I’m a winner, I win watching basketball and being tough on wemby :cry

:lmao
I was getting Denzel vibes from him.
”Now I may be a mean cuss but I’m the same mean cuss to everybody. Even Wemby”

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjspYTOU-h0

[Brazil]

I was getting Denzel vibes from him.
”Now I may be a mean cuss but I’m the same mean cuss to everybody. Even Wemby”

:lol so edgy

:cry I’m a freaking winner not a loser :cry

[polandprzem]

I’m not really getting your argument. Are you saying you are seeing faults in his game? I mean no shit. Everyone does, even GOATs like Jordan, Lebron, duncan, Kareem and such had faults in their games.


If you are criticizing because he’s not perfect then it’s fine. But I think most people are being reasonable and pointing out that wemby is exceeding expectations despite his immense hype.

I was not just criticizing him but of course everybody here sees that. :)

Thing is I pointed out the biggest holes in his game and I will observe if he is filling them up. That's about it.

I do not like the hype just because I see a basketball player not a freak. Being astonished he made a dunk or made a 3 when he is not that good of a shooter? I mean come on.

I am harsh but that's how I mostly are when I coach - so to fix things.

Other then that you can all continue the party :)


Respect ambchang

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjspYTOU-h0

What was the point of that, lol

[ambchang]

I was not just criticizing him but of course everybody here sees that. :)

Thing is I pointed out the biggest holes in his game and I will observe if he is filling them up. That's about it.

I do not like the hype just because I see a basketball player not a freak. Being astonished he made a dunk or made a 3 when he is not that good of a shooter? I mean come on.

I am harsh but that's how I mostly are when I coach - so to fix things.

Other then that you can all continue the party :)


Respect ambchang

I would say pointing out his weaknesses is the definition of criticizing.

[Obstructed_View]

I was not just criticizing him but of course everybody here sees that. :)

Thing is I pointed out the biggest holes in his game and I will observe if he is filling them up. That's about it.

I do not like the hype just because I see a basketball player not a freak. Being astonished he made a dunk or made a 3 when he is not that good of a shooter? I mean come on.

I am harsh but that's how I mostly are when I coach - so to fix things.

Other then that you can all continue the party :)


Respect ambchang
You haven't been criticizing him, you've been shitting on him. Exhibit A: not a good rebounder. :lmao

[playbonner15]

https://x.com/tom_orsborn/status/1731843611220697395

Victor is slowly becoming my next favorite Spur

[Pauleta14]

On Wemby from 8'54


https://youtu.be/rPQRTDVtNqQ?si=TWSxjAnJiXP0WOZF

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1732051759193870445

[Brazil]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1732051759193870445

What stood out and is clearly noticeable is 1. the assists, his progress are visible, he is starting to have the feeling for teammates positioning and pass timing and 2. rebounds, he is clearly putting more effort on it

[exstatic]

His rebounding has frankly shocked me. I was expecting 8.5-9.

[Obstructed_View]

His biggest problems at the moment are inefficiency and turnovers. Those are things that naturally come around with time and familiarity with teammates.

[thiste]

His biggest problems at the moment are inefficiency and turnovers. Those are things that naturally come around with time and familiarity with teammates.

As shown in my last post, he significantly reduced his turnovers from October to November. Let's hope that trend continues.

[polandprzem]

His biggest problems at the moment are inefficiency and turnovers. Those are things that naturally come around with time and familiarity with teammates.
:blah

[spurraider21]

What’s his go-to move on offense right now? His mode of scoring seems wildly inconsistent from game to game. Obviously he can get out and run in transition but in the half court game it often boils down to long jumpers

[polandprzem]

He is now in top20 in rebs- getting better I'd say/ got few 50-50 balls vs Wolves
Top 50 in scoring still :D

[z0sa]

What’s his go-to move on offense right now? His mode of scoring seems wildly inconsistent from game to game. Obviously he can get out and run in transition but in the half court game it often boils down to long jumpers

It's perimeter oriented dribbling and shooting over the top, thanks to this wonderful "system". But in a normal offense with half ass talent, I think it's a high post triple threat as well as a big guy who can actually handle and pass the ball in transition. The one thing is, regardless of whether he actually has a post game or not (debatable), he gets doubled anywhere from the mid post down in just about every game.

[Kawhi_6rings]

He is now in top20 in rebs- getting better I'd say/ got few 50-50 balls vs Wolves
Top 50 in scoring still :D
7FEET4 TALL BUT LIABILTY POST UP ANYONE IN LEAuge :deadhorse

[scott]

https://x.com/tom_orsborn/status/1731843611220697395

Victor is slowly becoming my next favorite Spur

Victor ending up a huge dork would be the best thing that could happen for the Spurs being able to retain him

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1733327357912424647

[polandprzem]

In a game where he fights for a rebounds he gets 20 of them.
I want more of that from him. That is what I demanded all season long.

[thiste]

In a game where he fights for a rebounds he gets 20 of them.
I want more of that from him. That is what I demanded all season long.


He could get 15 rebounds a night if he wanted, he's just not interested in rebounding right now, he'd rather run for a fast break, which there's definitely an argument for. My opinion is Pop will probably reign him in during the season though.

Called it before the season (when he was averaging 5). Of course rebounding was never gonna be an issue for him, just a question of focus.

[Spurs Homer]

In a game where he fights for a rebounds he gets 20 of them.
I want more of that from him. That is what I demanded all season long.

There are 4 fucking morons on the court with vw at all times....all 4 morons REFUSE to pass vw the ball when he has his hand raised up anywhere near the basket.
Only VW can get to a high pass - unless one of 4 said morons are just not able or are unwilling to throw the pass higher than the defenders near vw.
The rare times when they at least ATTEMPT a pass - something good happens...

so VW - by necessity - (fortunately or unfortunately) is starting to learn that he has to be nearer the basket to get his own.

[Brazil]

In a game where he fights for a rebounds he gets 20 of them.
I want more of that from him. That is what I demanded all season long.

you are a clown.. now you take it back.. :cry I never said he was a bad rebounder:cry I was talking about the effort :cry

fucking moron :lmao

[Mugen]

The rebounding improvement has been nice to see from Victor. He's still a poor screener but light years better than where he was the first five games of the season.

[Rocalcio]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1733327357912424647

He’s also the youngest player to record a 20/20 game. Howard was a few days older when he did that.

[polandprzem]

There are 4 fucking morons on the court with vw at all times....all 4 morons REFUSE to pass vw the ball when he has his hand raised up anywhere near the basket.
Only VW can get to a high pass - unless one of 4 said morons are just not able or are unwilling to throw the pass higher than the defenders near vw.
The rare times when they at least ATTEMPT a pass - something good happens...

so VW - by necessity - (fortunately or unfortunately) is starting to learn that he has to be nearer the basket to get his own.
tbh he had Carruso back to the the basket an he reused to attack him one on one

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1733533218438033750

[Spurs Homer]

tbh he had Carruso back to the the basket an he reused to attack him one on one

so?

that was one play

most times he will make something good happen

[RC_Drunkford]

his improving so fast, he'll be a monster by next season

[slick'81]

his improving so fast, he'll be a monster by next season


Just need the team and coaching to catch up

[exstatic]

his improving so fast, he'll be a monster by next season

He’s already a defensive monster. He got fooled on a reverse pivot by Vooch, and in his next 4 defensive plays against him had 3 blocks and a very close goaltending call. Vooch eventually just passed the ball away every time Wemby was covering him.

I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that he’s more dominant and advanced, as a rookie, on defense than Steph was on offense, as a rookie. He’s going to be a defensive Mozart or Einstein.

[CorrectCrusader]

He’s already a defensive monster. He got fooled on a reverse pivot by Vooch, and in his next 4 defensive plays against him had 3 blocks and a very close goaltending call. Vooch eventually just passed the ball away every time Wemby was covering him.

I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that he’s more dominant and advanced, as a rookie, on defense than Steph was on offense, as a rookie. He’s going to be a defensive Mozart or Einstein.

The defense was the craziest part absolutely. Getting cooked on a move and IMMEDIATELY adjusting and not falling for it again resulting in 3 blocks is insane.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1733864880405438629

And people still think Chet is ROY :grim:

[heyheymymy]

1733551397289775406

[gambit1990]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1733864880405438629

And people still think Chet is ROY :grim:
wemby will probably get it but chet is as close as can be tbh. webmy leads in raw stats but chet's % is above victor's across the board.

[Rocalcio]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1733864880405438629

And people still think Chet is ROY :grim:

Wow, that’s something…

[CGD]

I’m impressed how quickly he’s turned around his rebounding in recent weeks. Its like they changed his regime/focus of late to prime him for the center spot

[spursparker9]

I’m impressed how quickly he’s turned around his rebounding in recent weeks. Its like they changed his regime/focus of late to prime him for the center spot

Wemby would have average 12+ rebs easily if he is playing Center.

[DAF86]

I’m impressed how quickly he’s turned around his rebounding in recent weeks. Its like they changed his regime/focus of late to prime him for the center spot

He's just playing closer to the basket, therefore getting more rebounding opportunities. As good as 20 rebounds sound, he could have had much more on the last game.

[tbdog]

Victor cuts and fights hard every possession. That's why he is getting so gassed. He will learn when he needs to excert his energy.

[exstatic]

wemby will probably get it but chet is as close as can be tbh. webmy leads in raw stats but chet's % is above victor's across the board.

Those % are dropping pretty steadily across the board.

[thiste]

Those % are dropping pretty steadily across the board.

Unfortunately Victor's aren't improving either... yet.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BallySportsSA/status/1734402387828215936

[DAF86]

https://twitter.com/BallySportsSA/status/1734402387828215936

This should be the offense on every single possession.

[thiste]

15 points, 18 rebounds, 5 blocks, 3 assists tonight.

[TheBallsbreakers]

This should be the offense on every single possession.
No way. A contested Sochan or Keldon Johnson 3 is the way to do it!!!

[BatManu20]

Wemby keeping a cooler head than most fans is a good thing. Love this kid’s maturity tbh.

1734433790083178814

[baseline bum]

his improving so fast, he'll be a monster by next season

His defense and rebounding is improving hugely, but god his shot has gone to absolute hell.

[exstatic]

His defense and rebounding is improving hugely, but god his shot has gone to absolute hell.

In the game last night, it looked like he hit the rookie wall two months early. He was basically jog-walking up and down the floor. Looks like his legs are gone, which would affect the J.

[TDomination]

This should be the offense on every single possession.
no, we will run this play only once every 3 games.

[thiste]

In the game last night, it looked like he hit the rookie wall two months early. He was basically jog-walking up and down the floor. Looks like his legs are gone, which would affect the J.

They modified his rotation. Up until now he was playing the first 5 1/2 minutes of quarters and the last 2 minutes, last night he played the first 8 1/2 minutes of the first quarter. That surely played a role in his apparent fatigue.

[thiste]

:wow didn't catch that live

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1734598825350660129

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/spurs_muse/status/1734588925883068582

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7x1kbxTL1w

[heyheymymy]

Kia Rookie Ladder: Victor Wembanyama returns to No. 1 despite Spurs' strugglesThe No. 1 overall pick continues to shine bright as the Spurs search for wins.

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-dec-13-2023-edition

[heyheymymy]

1. Victor Wembanyama, San Antonio Spurs
Season stats (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1641705): 18.8 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 2.6 apg
Last Ladder (https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-dec-6-2023-edition): 2
Draft pick (https://www.nba.com/news/2023-nba-draft-order): No. 1
Five double-doubles in a row and two gaudy games against the Bulls (21 points, 20 rebounds) and Rockets (15, 18) bump the Spurs’ youngster to the Ladder’s top. That 20-20 game came in his first start at center, which ought to be his focus – he has made just one of his past dozen 3FGAs.
2. Chet Holmgren, Oklahoma City Thunder
Season stats (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1631096): 17.0 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 2.5 apg
Last Ladder (https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-dec-6-2023-edition): 1
Draft pick (https://www.nba.com/news/2022-nba-draft-order): No. 2 (2022)
Except for blocks (3.7) this week, Holmgren’s numbers drooped as he averaged 13.7 points, 6.7 boards and 1.7 assists. He did get his plus/minus gap vs. Wemby to +271. But he probably did his best work on Instagram (https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1733535812480815538).
3. Brandon Miller, Charlotte Hornets
Season stats (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1641706): 14.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.2 apg
Last Ladder (https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-dec-6-2023-edition): 3
Draft pick (https://www.nba.com/news/2023-nba-draft-order): No. 2 overall
Miller has scored 10+ points in seven straight games and all but two of his 19 appearances. Miami coach Erik Spoelstra, whose team saw the Hornets forward Monday, had praise (https://twitter.com/WillCEudy/status/1734414030406606877) for him and the work of his coach Steve Clifford.
4. Jaime Jaquez Jr., Miami Heat
Season stats (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1631170): 12.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.5 apg
Last Ladder (https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-dec-6-2023-edition): 4
Draft pick (https://www.nba.com/news/2023-nba-draft-order): No. 18
The East’s NBA-decreed top rookie (https://www.nba.com/heat/news/jaime-jaquez-jr-named-kia-eastern-conference-rookie-of-the-month) for October/November is averaging 14.5 points and shooting 51.5% in December. He scored 18 in 24 minutes before fouling out vs. Charlotte.
5. Keyonte George, Utah Jazz
Season stats (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1641718): 11.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.2 apg
Last Ladder (https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-dec-6-2023-edition): 6
Draft pick (https://www.nba.com/news/2023-nba-draft-order): No. 16
Topped all rookies in scoring and assists the past week. And he has dished more assists (120) than any other two rookies combined. The Texas product matched Shai Gilgeous-Alexander – 30 points, 7 assists – vs. OKC (https://www.nba.com/game/uta-vs-okc-0022300302/box-score)Monday.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DanWeissPBP/status/1735131295682838968

[Spurs Homer]

Our boy is a beast!

the hurt on his face tonite after losing another game…
is going to be the fire that will haunt the rest of the league as vw is going to climb that mountain


and when he ascends…

the spurs are going far and vw is going to destroy everyone

patience fellas’

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby is incredible. He's the future bball goat.

[Spurs Homer]

Wemby is incredible. He's the future bball goat.

i loved watching him in this game…

AD tried to assert himself and had a good first half and even got a bit physical with vw…

right before half, vw began to get irritated and struck back…

the 2nd half, vw looked determined as fuck and raised a ton of eyebrows on that laker bench, reminiscent of that pre-season game at golden state where vw was all over the court and warrrior kunts looked shell-shocked

then the wild finish and vw almost pulling off a great comeback

keldon was an asset
but the rest of the kunts like branham and vassell are nothing but a hindrance to winning

id trash both of them asap and surround vw with some winners instead of these garbage players

pretty sure AD will lose some sleep tonite even tho the lakers escaped with a win…

[thiste]

Over the last 3 games:

22 points
17 rebounds
5 blocks
3 assists
1 steal

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/StatMamba/status/1735138335377555614

[CorrectCrusader]

Over the last 3 games:

22 points
17 rebounds
5 blocks
3 assists
1 steal

but his efficiency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1735143234186154371

[sfernald]

Can you imagine if he wasn’t on a g league team?

[John B]

Wemby will have monster games. I doubt Chet will get another ROTY month.

[MI21]

I can't believe how good this guy is at age 19. What the actual fuck?

[CorrectCrusader]

I can't believe how good this guy is at age 19. What the actual fuck?

It's insane.

[heyheymymy]

This season has been the Wemby show without disappointment

incredible watching him develop

[exstatic]

I can't believe how good this guy is at age 19. What the actual fuck?


It's insane.

It should terrify the league that this is the worst version of Wemby that they will ever see. He’ll only get better and better.

[SpursFan86]

Lone bright spot of these games. Enjoy the ride.

[Seventyniner]

It should terrify the league that this is the worst version of Wemby that they will ever see. He’ll only get better and better.

This should also be the worst set of teammates he will have in his career.

[lefty]

https://x.com/SpursLegion/status/1735138142087266806

https://x.com/StephNoh/status/1735333123246768295

[playbonner15]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlS_mH787yI

[NameLess Scrub]

I can't believe how good this guy is at age 19. What the actual fuck?

He needs to get up there fast before his body betrays him.


:wow didn't catch that live

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1734598825350660129

I don’t understand this. If he can actually do this, I’d be wrong and he’d be Lebron level of durable. Unlikely though.

[exstatic]

He needs to get up there fast before his body betrays him.



I don’t understand this. If he can actually do this, I’d be wrong and he’d be Lebron level of durable. Unlikely though.

I watched the game. It was an FULL ankle roll, and on the bench, everyone’s eyes got REAL big. He got a hand up, and trotted down the court like nothing. His personal trainer is a magician.

[NameLess Scrub]

I watched the game. It was an FULL ankle roll, and on the bench, everyone’s eyes got REAL big. He got a hand up, and trotted down the court like nothing. His personal trainer is a magician.

Best of wishes for him. Seems to be made of rubber

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcb5WReqlSw

[Spurs Homer]

I watched the game. It was an FULL ankle roll, and on the bench, everyone’s eyes got REAL big. He got a hand up, and trotted down the court like nothing. His personal trainer is a magician.

Before the draft there was a video or documentary type video out on the internet about wembys years-long training/stretching/sleeping/nutritional/ regimen

the dude has been preparing for years and his mom was a pro athlete and there is an entire staff surrounding him - some he brought from france -

that makes sure he stays on this program - AT WEMBYS REQUEST!

Sean Elliot mentioned something about vw asking questions about the best ways to sleep and get enough sleep on road trips and related stuff

then the video showed him stretching and bending his long frame like a fucking pretzel -

just impressive - reminded me of manu when he would do his stretching and balancing on some ball or rolling device...

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcb5WReqlSw

Really cool

[Joey Gallo]

I can't believe how good this guy is at age 19. What the actual fuck?
At losing

[ginobilized]

It is so strange to me how I don't even bat an eye when Wemby blocks a shot by a 7-footer, maintains control of the ball and leads the break the other direction.
That is such a rare play to behold. Bill Russell, Wilt, Walton would do it once in a while. How am I already conditioned to this insane play by a 19yr old rookie?

I truly think he was mostly underestimated coming into the NBA.

Sermon over, nothing to see here.

[Alain]

It is so strange to me how I don't even bat an eye when Wemby blocks a shot by a 7-footer, maintains control of the ball and leads the break the other direction.
That is such a rare play to behold. Bill Russell, Wilt, Walton would do it once in a while. How am I already conditioned to this insane play by a 19yr old rookie?


So, is it a block? a steal ? both ?
How is it counted in the stat sheet ?

He might have made at least a dozen of these since the start of the season... Amazing indeed !

[Joseph Kony]

hilarious how people have Chet above him in the ROY rankings at this point. Wemby has a target on his back due to the hype train so i'm not entirely surprised. Chet winning would be like Kessler winning last year instead of Banchero. and that skinny fuck isn't even an actual rookie :lol

swap places and the Thunder might actually be the title favorites. Chet is good, but he is not on Wemby's level imo

[thiste]

hilarious how people have Chet above him in the ROY rankings at this point. Wemby has a target on his back due to the hype train so i'm not entirely surprised. Chet winning would be like Kessler winning last year instead of Banchero. and that skinny fuck isn't even an actual rookie :lol

swap places and the Thunder might actually be the title favorites. Chet is good, but he is not on Wemby's level imo

To your point:
https://twitter.com/ballenterpz/status/1735538355704582463

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH6Ui--UYKs

[Obstructed_View]

He needs to get up there fast before his body betrays him.



I don’t understand this. If he can actually do this, I’d be wrong and he’d be Lebron level of durable. Unlikely though.
You can stretch your ankles. There's a guy on YouTube who does flexibility exercises for it. In five or ten years every NBA player will do them.

[rascal]

Alright which one of you assholes is this in this video :lol

My money’s on rascal (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=914) tbh.

1673754440837242888

No way

I'm into women, but they aren't into me.

[polandprzem]

You can stretch your ankles. There's a guy on YouTube who does flexibility exercises for it. In five or ten years every NBA player will do them.
lol

That's an old 50yrs plus thing.

But you would not know that go figure

[TheBallsbreakers]

A
hilarious how people have Chet above him in the ROY rankings at this point. Wemby has a target on his back due to the hype train so i'm not entirely surprised. Chet winning would be like Kessler winning last year instead of Banchero. and that skinny fuck isn't even an actual rookie :lol

swap places and the Thunder might actually be the title favorites. Chet is good, but he is not on Wemby's level imo
Absoposifuckinglutely.

[Sugus]

lol

That's an old 50yrs plus thing.

But you would not know that go figure

Poland lecturing others on training whilst Wemby "no muscle no rebounds" has yet another world class performance :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

lol

That's an old 50yrs plus thing.

But you would not know that go figure
Yeah. You're so smart.

[kace]

So, is it a block? a steal ? both ?
How is it counted in the stat sheet ?

He might have made at least a dozen of these since the start of the season... Amazing indeed !


So, is it a block? a steal ? both ?
How is it counted in the stat sheet ?

He might have made at least a dozen of these since the start of the season... Amazing indeed !

well, maybe that's a foolish take, but i sometimes find that the block stat is kind of meaningless or at least overvalued.

not only because of course, you can alter a shot without blocking it, but that's the case with most stats, they don't tell the whole story.

but also, if you block a shot but you send it out of the court, the opposing team still has the ball. so well, cool, you've made a good defensive play, but it's not really different than a quick lateral movement by a defender preventing a drive or when you block a passing lane forcing the opposing team to reset the play.

when you actually block it and manage to steal the ball or send it to a teamate, that's a different story; not only you gain the possession but you allow a fastbreak, like most steals.

so, why not suppressing the block stat and counting such a block as a steal (the ones like victor often does, keeping the ball in his hands or sending it to a teamate) and not putting on the stat sheet the others ones, those whose don't allow to regain the possession of the ball ?

anyway, victor is really impressive in that aspect: i don't remember a lot of players doing as many blocks like this, literally stealing the ball in this air.

[DAF86]

https://turivers3.b-cdn.net/original/4X/6/0/8/608b7ed5a69542ee0fa6f41e651d8a77a3b21df9.png

[CGD]

https://turivers3.b-cdn.net/original/4X/6/0/8/608b7ed5a69542ee0fa6f41e651d8a77a3b21df9.png

Impressive, but honestly all these stats are distorted a hell bc of the 3pt shot.

[Pauleta14]

Imagine if Victor was playing 10 more min on average the numbers he'd have

[polandprzem]

Yeah. You're so smart.

I know.

It's surprising that someone that watches basketball do not know anything about prep or the game... And youve got over 40k posts here?

In 90s coaches were using that pretty much. And I was told to do that when I rolled mine.
That tactic has pluses and minuses. But why to educate here when the level of knowledge is so low :lol

[polandprzem]

Poland lecturing others on training whilst Wemby "no muscle no rebounds" has yet another world class performance :lmao

If you get one post right I might consider your IQ surpassed 80.

Never happened though

[Brazil]

Poland with the :cry I coach basket, I know better... it's obvious to a pro that Wemby is a bad rebounder and an overrated pos :cry

[exstatic]

Is Poland smarter than two HOF players?

http://https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTBAITynjA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTBAITynjA)

[Frenchfred]

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/table/general/sort/avgRebounds/dir/desc

so except for 6 players, the entire NBA sucks at rebounding.

[spurraider21]

he's also #1 in the league in defensive rebounding % (and block %)

[spurraider21]

wemby out vs bucks

1736882795476103229

[spurraider21]

given he is not on the list, looks like Barlow will be active. probably will see a good amount of Mamu as well

[Obstructed_View]

Is Poland smarter than two HOF players?

http://https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTBAITynjA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTBAITynjA)

Poland isn't smarter than half an average player.

[eric365]

https://turivers3.b-cdn.net/original/4X/6/0/8/608b7ed5a69542ee0fa6f41e651d8a77a3b21df9.png

True but honestly wemby can’t play 40 minutes a game at this point
After stretchs of 6 or 7 minutes he looks gased and is less efficient

I blame the spurs for a lot of things (no real point guard etc) but I totally agree to play him only 30 minutes a game
He should rest more games too. 70 games is already crazy for a 19 year old with this kind of body and who will play all summer for the olympics

[exstatic]

True but honestly wemby can’t play 40 minutes a game at this point
After stretchs of 6 or 7 minutes he looks gased and is less efficient

I blame the spurs for a lot of things (no real point guard etc) but I totally agree to play him only 30 minutes a game
He should rest more games too. 70 games is already crazy for a 19 year old with this kind of body and who will play all summer for the olympics

He didn’t play at all for France last summer, and the Olympics are n 2024, next summer.

[Thomas82]

Brook Lopez got 6 blocks tonight. Wemby at least needs to match that on Thursday to keep pace with him.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NHL/status/1737910812616937826

[LakerHater]

https://images4.imagebam.com/19/99/5f/MEQYROT_o.gif

[TDomination]

https://images4.imagebam.com/19/99/5f/MEQYROT_o.gif

Wemby showing Sochan how to do it

[itzsoweezee]

Victor Wembanyama is turning foes into fans: ‘He’s really freaking good’

The Athletic

By Darnell Mayberry
Dec 22, 2023


When the official lofted a jump ball at tipoff for the San Antonio Spurs–Chicago Bulls game, the Victor Wembanyama effect was felt immediately.

Bulls center Nikola Vučević, listed at 6 foot 10, didn’t bother to jump.

“When you play against him,” Vučević said, “you almost have to recalibrate yourself.”
Vučević allowed San Antonio’s 7-4 rookie phenom to win the uncontested tap, only for Bulls guard Alex Caruso to swoop in to steal the tip. It was one of several unconventional strategies the Bulls were forced to employ in their 114-95 home win Thursday.

“He’s just a different type of talent,” Bulls guard Coby White said. “I’ve never been on the floor with someone like that. Like I always say, I try not to take those things for granted. He’s going to be really, really good in the coming years. Obviously, he’s really freaking good at basketball.”

Even on his worst night yet, Wembanyama still made his opponents marvel.

Playing on a minute restriction after missing Tuesday’s game at Milwaukee with right ankle soreness, Wembanyama scored seven points on eight shots, both season lows, in 22 minutes. He added five rebounds, five assists, two steals and three blocks. But it was far from the dominant, 21-point, 20-rebound performance he crafted against the Bulls two weeks earlier in San Antonio.

“My ankle is fine. I don’t feel it at all,” Wembanyama said after the game. “There’s some games like that. I’m not trying to force anything. I’m trying to make my teammates plays. I could sacrifice all my shots and take zero shots if it was for the best of our team.”

Wembanyama attempted only three shots in Thursday’s first half. Yet the Spurs trailed by only four at the break. The Bulls missing 13 of their first 14 3-pointers had a lot to do with the game still being within reach. But so did the Wemby effect.

Twenty seconds after Vučević didn’t leave his feet for the jump ball, he didn’t jump or shoot the ball high enough on a floater attempt. With his 8-foot wingspan, Wembanyama promptly closed the gap and got a paw on the ball for the block.

“You know, most guys, if you do certain things you’re going to be able to get (the shot) off,” Vučević said. “With him, his length is so impressive. The first floater I had, I usually get that off, but he just blocked it. So that’s a big thing. I was talking to A.C. about the pocket passes. Usually, they’re there. And tonight he was getting his hands on them early on. So that first part is something you just have to adjust to because he’s so unique and he’s so mobile. It’s not like he’s just a big stiff. He can move.”

Bulls coach Billy Donovan had to adjust too. He found a more favorable matchup with Andre Drummond and rode the reserve center for a season-high 19 minutes. Drummond responded with 17 points, eight rebounds, five steals and two blocks.

“I did think the physicality of Andre (helped) on both ends of the floor,” Donovan said. “When (Wembanyama) was trying to cut and move, the physicality when he tried to get a little bit closer to the basket, Andre holding him up. Then I think even though at times maybe Andre didn’t get the ball, him occupying him physically where he had to work to get around in front of him or he got pinned behind him, those things helped us. Because clearly, he was a factor at the basket and certainly blocked a lot of shots.”

White couldn’t believe Wembanyama’s shot-blocking ability.

“It’s crazy the amount of shots he alters on defense,” he said.

White considered himself fortunate to get a bucket on Wembanyama after using a six-dribble sequence to shake free of him. The point guard conceded that he got away with one on what appeared to be a gorgeous play early in the third quarter.

“I probably fouled him,” White said. “They could have called a foul because I held his arm on the sweep-through. Because I knew if I didn’t he was probably going to block it. Just having to do that in your mind when he’s on you disrupts you as an offensive player. So, yeah, I made a nice move or whatever. But probably eight times out of 10, he’s probably blocking that or meeting me at the rim and altering that shot.”

But it wasn’t only Wembanyama’s defense that stood out. Even in limited minutes, his versatility kept the Bulls off balance. He launched a stepback 3 and a series of pull-up jumpers. He caught and finished an over-the-top pass in transition with an authoritative dunk, as well as a dump-off from Cedi Osman for a three-point-play opportunity. He even tried a late post-up move against the 6-6 Caruso.

Wembanyama’s passing popped too. He threw darts to teammates for assists, making difficult dishes look effortless if not miraculous for a player his size, still two weeks shy of his 20th birthday. After his presence forced Vučević to yield at tipoff, and after he set the tone with the opening-possession block against Vooch, Wemby led a fast break. He pounded five dribbles, stopped at the 3-point line and slipped a feathery-soft bounce pass to Malaki Branham for an uncontested dunk.

Minutes later, he dribbled into the frontcourt and lobbed a pinpoint pass into the paint to Keldon Johnson for a continuation layup. He later got fancy in the third quarter, leading a run-out and drawing five Bulls defenders before whipping an over-the-head pass to Jeremy Sochan for another uncontested dunk.

To Wemby, it was just another assist.

“Not rocket science,” he said. “I saw the defender coming toward me, and I just looked in the opposite direction to put Jeremy in my blind side so that he doesn’t think I saw him — I did.”

Wembanyama’s combination of size, skill, smarts and selflessness on the court already has made his rivals believers. Now opponents have become curious observers. The Bulls are scheduled to see Wembanyama and the Spurs for the last time in three weeks in San Antonio. They wouldn’t be surprised if by then Wemby develops into a bigger headache.

“He’s such a unique player,” Donovan said. “The scoring for him is going to eventually come. It’s probably a huge adjustment for him, the physicality of the NBA, certainly the length and the skill set. He’s going to become a more consistent jump shooter. He gets good looks. He’ll make more shots. He’s learning. He’s young. I know he played professionally overseas. Coming here is a lot different. And he’ll figure it out. But there’s things that he’s done in games that are pretty remarkable.”

Vučević complimented Wembanyama’s poise.

“He doesn’t overdo things. He doesn’t rush things,” Vučević said. “He’s still so young and trying to figure it out, his body and everything. But for his first 25 games he’s played so far, he’s been very impressive to watch him adapt. He’s obviously going to be a great player for a long time.”

One that requires rare in-game strategy.

“You never see it other than when we play him,” Vučević said. “For one game, you really have to adjust.”

[BatManu20]

1740059486067306863

[spurraider21]

he's right. vic has to simplify his game rn

[exstatic]

he's right. vic has to simplify his game rn

Lamarcus is the last person who’s advice on ‘clutch’ I’d take.

[spurraider21]

Lamarcus is the last person who’s advice on ‘clutch’ I’d take.
lamarcus is one of the most effective scorers of the last 2 decades. i think theres plenty of advice he could offer

[Mugen]

lamarcus is one of the most effective scorers of the last 2 decades. i think theres plenty of advice he could offer

He's just mad that he never got over himself. Ex would rather Wemby take advice from a company man like Bonner than one of the best 4s of his generation :lol

[exstatic]

He's just mad that he never got over himself. Ex would rather Wemby take advice from a company man like Bonner than one of the best 4s of his generation :lol

It ain’t that. He’s a quitter. 38YO Tim Duncan ground him to dust on the practice court, to the point he said fuck this, and left. If you want to know who LMA is, watch all of the footage from the GS series after Kawhi was injured. He quit on the team, didn’t even try. Fucking mailed it in. He’s mentally weak.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Playing basketball like LaMarcus when you are 6'11+ is how you fail to reach the highest heights. Even when your jumper is falling, you still are not routinely creating the gravity that a combo post-scorer and post-defender does. Gotta be a big-man first and primarily.

[spurraider21]

It ain’t that. He’s a quitter. 38YO Tim Duncan ground him to dust on the practice court, to the point he said fuck this, and left. If you want to know who LMA is, watch all of the footage from the GS series after Kawhi was injured. He quit on the team, didn’t even try. Fucking mailed it in. He’s mentally weak.
Nobody is saying to transplant aldridges brain into Wembys body and copy everything about him. But guy knew how to score effectively for a long fuckin time and made a great career out of it and you are acting like wemby has nothing to learn from him.

[spurraider21]

Playing basketball like LaMarcus when you are 6'11+ is how you fail to reach the highest heights. Even when your jumper is falling, you still are not routinely creating the gravity that a combo post-scorer and post-defender does. Gotta be a big-man first and primarily.
Aldridge was about as efficient from the field as Duncan for their careers. Heck he was more efficient than duncan within 3 feet from the rim and just as efficient between 3 and 10 feet. There’s plenty to learn from him. Especially wemby who currently doesn’t have the strength to constantly bully guys near the restricted area

[Spurs Homer]

Never understood the aldridge hate

or

the kawhitter love tbh

[spurraider21]

how many blocks per game would wemby average with the grizzlies scorekeeper tbh?

[CorrectCrusader]

how many blocks per game would wemby average with the grizzlies scorekeeper tbh?
15

[John B]

I think Wemby should be averaging double-digit rebound every night. The obvious reason for now is the ankle. Because 7 rebounds last night was sub-par to his ability, and allowed the blazers 22 against 7 offensive rebounds, yikes

[spurraider21]

I think Wemby should be averaging double-digit rebound every night. The obvious reason for now is the ankle. Because 7 rebounds last night was sub-par to his ability, and allowed the blazers 22 against 7 offensive rebounds, yikes
i have good news for you

he does

[RC_Drunkford]

He's just mad that he never got over himself. Ex would rather Wemby take advice from a company man like Bonner than one of the best 4s of his generation :lol

He also thinks Jalen Smith could save the franchise :lmao

[John B]

i have good news for you

he does

Wemby has several games that he had single digit rebounds, and only averages double digit because of those 20 rebounds that skewed the average. I meant I expect Wemby to control the board rebound EVERY night, last night especially. Blazers offensive rebound really helped their come back.

[exstatic]

Wemby has several games that he had single digit rebounds, and only averages double digit because of those 20 rebounds that skewed the average. I meant I expect Wemby to control the board rebound EVERY night, last night especially. Blazers offensive rebound really helped their come back.

He’s on a minutes restriction, which until last night affected his scoring output, too.

[Sugus]

Wemby has several games that he had single digit rebounds, and only averages double digit because of those 20 rebounds that skewed the average. I meant I expect Wemby to control the board rebound EVERY night, last night especially. Blazers offensive rebound really helped their come back.

I know you don't mean it in a bad way, but it's just a crazy unfair expectation to demand a 19yo rookie to "control the board rebound EVERY night". That kind of consistent output and physical dominance is just... Not what characterizes 19yo rookies, in general. It certainly doesn't mean they will never be able to do it. He's just a kid.

The fact that he's had enough 20 rebound games at his age to make his average go into double digits is what should be popping out of the page here. That's not easy at all and especially in the modern "long rebounds" era. Wemby doesn't have the luxury of farming terrible post-up or midrange brick rebounds all game, tbh.

Now that I'm talking about it, in fact, isn't rebounding in general the "hardest" it's ever been (for individual statlines at least)? Between long rebounds, offensive favored rules preventing physical play, and a hyper-efficient league making more shots than ever... They just don't seem to come as often. Would love to see numbers on this.

[spurraider21]

Wemby has several games that he had single digit rebounds, and only averages double digit because of those 20 rebounds that skewed the average. I meant I expect Wemby to control the board rebound EVERY night, last night especially. Blazers offensive rebound really helped their come back.
you said you want him average 10 rebounds, not literally getting 10 rebounds every game without fail, so thats different

in the last 3 games you have cited, he's also played less than 25 minutes in each of them

[Pauleta14]

Wemby has several games that he had single digit rebounds, and only averages double digit because of those 20 rebounds that skewed the average. I meant I expect Wemby to control the board rebound EVERY night, last night especially. Blazers offensive rebound really helped their come back.

1st he’s shown an amazing mobility yesterday so the argument of the fragile ankle can’t stand.
2nd his teammates over help all the time (which create so many open 3s for their opponents!) and many end up taking "his" rebounds. He even had to take one out of Champagnie’s hands yesterday.
he also sometimes sprint on O depending on situations.

let’s not find issues where there’s none. His stats since he’s a 5 are astounding (iircc 4.5 blks/game!!)

[John B]

1st he’s shown an amazing mobility yesterday so the argument of the fragile ankle can’t stand.
2nd his teammates over help all the time (which create so many open 3s for their opponents!) and many end up taking "his" rebounds. He even had to take one out of Champagnie’s hands yesterday.
he also sometimes sprint on O depending on situations.

let’s not find issues where there’s none. His stats since he’s a 5 are astounding (iircc 4.5 blks/game!!)

I’m far from finding issues. Wemby is awesome. Wemby, and the Spurs, are still finding his game, and part of that is controlling the board. The Trailblazers had 22 offensive rebounds last night against 7 for the Spurs, with Wemby only having 6 rebounds.

[Pauleta14]

Each game is diff but the min restrictions added to the 2 other reasons I gave u are enough imo

Just hope those min restrictions won't last as Pop said it could be a few weeks....

[spurraider21]

Good thing the closest thing i have to a local game involves a 2 hour drive to DC and i already bought tix and arranged for friends from across the country to travel so we could hang out and catch a game. And that now falls on the second leg of a back to back against the wizards in 3 weeks

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[exstatic]

Good thing the closest thing i have to a local game involves a 2 hour drive to DC and i already bought tix and arranged for friends from across the country to travel so we could hang out and catch a game. And that now falls on the second leg of a back to back against the wizards in 3 weeks

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He might be off the minutes restriction/b2b restriction by then.

[Harry Callahan]

I'm kinda done listening to any opinion of VW not being rookie of the year for 23-24. I've watched every game he has played so far and his numbers are better overall and he is more impactful that the other top rookies IMO.

Scoot Henderson looks like a nice player, but I think even Scoot now knows what's up after dealing with Victor for 30 minutes a couple of nights ago. He learned very quickly what going to the rack is going to be when Wemby is on the floor - REJECTION!

Chet H. is a fine player and would probably be a ROY most years. If these three guys all play 60 + games (at least 1800 minutes), it's going to be the Spurs' VW.

Wemby is the guy if he is on the floor the bulk of the season.

[exstatic]

I'm kinda done listening to any opinion of VW not being rookie of the year for 23-24. I've watched every game he has played so far and his numbers are better overall and he is more impactful that the other top rookies IMO.

Scoot Henderson looks like a nice player, but I think even Scoot now knows what's up after dealing with Victor for 30 minutes a couple of nights ago. He learned very quickly what going to the rack is going to be when Wemby is on the floor - REJECTION!

Chet H. is a fine player and would probably be a ROY most years. If these three guys all play 60 + games (at least 1800 minutes), it's going to be the Spurs' VW.

Wemby is the guy if he is on the floor the bulk of the season.

I don’t think he even looks like that. Every flaw people said he had, he has. He’s a worse finisher than Wesley, who was drafted 22 spots later, and people saw this coming, because he didn’t even finish well in the gleague. We won twice this draft,by getting Wemby, and NOT getting stuck with Scoot.

[Pauleta14]

I'm kinda done listening to any opinion of VW not being rookie of the year for 23-24. I've watched every game he has played so far and his numbers are better overall and he is more impactful that the other top rookies IMO.

Scoot Henderson looks like a nice player, but I think even Scoot now knows what's up after dealing with Victor for 30 minutes a couple of nights ago. He learned very quickly what going to the rack is going to be when Wemby is on the floor - REJECTION!

Chet H. is a fine player and would probably be a ROY most years. If these three guys all play 60 + games (at least 1800 minutes), it's going to be the Spurs' VW.

Wemby is the guy if he is on the floor the bulk of the season.

seems a no brainer to me too but 99% of NBA pundits, commentators etc have a « it’s Chet’s to lose » narrative for weeks now…
im convinced most don’t watch the spurs and just base their opinions from raw results and watching OKC.

Also suddenly team results is THE criteria that matters!!

[spurraider21]

It’s not “team results” it’s Chet’s contribution to those results. His advanced stats are frankly off the charts and basically have him as an elite player right now.

i wouldn’t trade wemby for Chet but i don’t think it’s outlandish to say Chet is having a better rookie season

[Pauleta14]

I think it is outlandish

You can only come to this conclusion by being very selective with your criterias and not taking both very diff contexts into account.

[Harry Callahan]

I don’t think he even looks like that. Every flaw people said he had, he has. He’s a worse finisher than Wesley, who was drafted 22 spots later, and people saw this coming, because he didn’t even finish well in the gleague. We won twice this draft,by getting Wemby, and NOT getting stuck with Scoot.

I have not seen any Portland games other than the last two, so I don't know what Henderson looked like for those previous games. The drop-off is pretty big from #1 to the 2nd and 3rd picks.

[exstatic]

I have not seen any Portland games other than the last two, so I don't know what Henderson looked like for those previous games. The drop-off is pretty big from #1 to the 2nd and 3rd picks.

Actually…
Wemby
10 feet of soil
Brandon Miller
100 feet of crap
Scoot


Miller is playing pretty well, so far.

[scott]

Actually…
Wemby
10 feet of soil
Brandon Miller
100 feet of crap
Scoot


Miller is playing pretty well, so far.

Up until last week, Scoot wasn't even ahead of Toumani Camara from his own team on the rookie ladder :lol

[CGD]

Good thing the closest thing i have to a local game involves a 2 hour drive to DC and i already bought tix and arranged for friends from across the country to travel so we could hang out and catch a game. And that now falls on the second leg of a back to back against the wizards in 3 weeks

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Are you serious? I’m going to that game too with entire family, ugh.

[spurraider21]

Are you serious? I’m going to that game too with entire family, ugh.
If Vic isn’t playing we leave the stadium and go straight to the capitol

[cd98]

Victor has shown he's the real deal. I don't really care about who wins ROY as it is essentially meaningless, but it will be the classic Stats v. Winning argument. Wemby will put up the best stats (he still is) and Chet will win more games and probably have some better advanced stats because he plays with other great players.

In Henderson's defense, it takes 2-3 years for most point guards to turn into something special. And he's on a team as bad as Wemby is, so his struggling at a hard position is understandable. He could very easily be a star in year 3 of his career.

[TrainOfThought5]

I don’t think he even looks like that. Every flaw people said he had, he has. He’s a worse finisher than Wesley, who was drafted 22 spots later, and people saw this coming, because he didn’t even finish well in the gleague. We won twice this draft,by getting Wemby, and NOT getting stuck with Scoot.


that’s because Brandon Miller was always the better prospect.

[rascal]

Up until last week, Scoot wasn't even ahead of Toumani Camara from his own team on the rookie ladder :lol

He played a few games then got injured and missed time. Scoot will be fine.

[ambchang]

Emeka okafor won RoY over Dwight Howard. So what?

[eric365]

In his last few games he doesn’t play near the basket on defense
He had 5 to 7 rebounds per game in his last 4 games. Even with the low minutes, it’s very low for a 7’4

Seems like a choice from the spurs that I don’t understand
And aslo opposing center are getting to the 3 point line to draw Wemby out of the lane

What do you think of it?
And shouldn’t the spurs play a lot more of zone defense to have wemby under the basket at all time on defense?

[Pauleta14]

His teammates love to pack the paint/leave the 3pts openned and take some of his rebounds too

He had to take one off of Wesley yesterday, Champagnie last game etc

I don't like how nice Victor is, he's being taken advantage

[exstatic]

In his last few games he doesn’t play near the basket on defense
He had 5 to 7 rebounds per game in his last 4 games. Even with the low minutes, it’s very low for a 7’4

Seems like a choice from the spurs that I don’t understand
And aslo opposing center are getting to the 3 point line to draw Wemby out of the lane

What do you think of it?
And shouldn’t the spurs play a lot more of zone defense to have wemby under the basket at all time on defense?

He played in the paint in Boston, they just never challenged him, by design,and why would they, with the way their 3 pointers were falling?

[exstatic]

His teammates love to pack the paint/leave the 3pts openned and take some of his rebounds too

He had to take one off of Wesley yesterday, Champagnie last game etc

I don't like how nice Victor is, he's being taken advantage

I don’t think Spurs players should defer to each other for rebounds. We have enough trouble in that area. If you’re near it, grab it.

[OldMan88]

None of Victor’s teammates seem to be aware of how fast he runs down the lane. When they do rarely pass him the ball on the way to the basket, it arrives about half a step late when he’s almost under the basket. At this point in the season, that makes me seriously question the basic intelligence of his teammates. They can’t really be that stupid…. Or can they?

[MannyIsGod]

I was getting ready to buy tickets to see the Wizards game but thanks for the poster above who pointed out it was a B2B. I'll wait. Worst case I'll just get Philly tickets and drive up.

[Extra Stout]

I strongly suspect the minutes restriction is a form of sandbagging.

[spurraider21]

I was getting ready to buy tickets to see the Wizards game but thanks for the poster above who pointed out it was a B2B. I'll wait. Worst case I'll just get Philly tickets and drive up.
I’m basically committed to that game. Have friends from CA flying in to visit the fam and we already have tix for the game. Sucks if he’s out for no good reason tbh

[Harry Callahan]

Emeka okafor won RoY over Dwight Howard. So what?

Wow! Dwight had some early growing pains then - zero college back when it mattered more.

[Harry Callahan]

None of Victor’s teammates seem to be aware of how fast he runs down the lane. When they do rarely pass him the ball on the way to the basket, it arrives about half a step late when he’s almost under the basket. At this point in the season, that makes me seriously question the basic intelligence of his teammates. They can’t really be that stupid…. Or can they?

Some appear to be that stupid - Jones a least tries and can put an accurate pass to him. VW's long strides cover a lot of ground pretty quickly.

[spurraider21]

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[exstatic]

One of the best and most willing lob and entry passers is Zach.

[spurraider21]

One of the best and most willing lob and entry passers is Zach.
Then run him at point

[Mugen]

Vic subbed himself back into the game against the Grizzlies last night :lol

Uh oh......Sniff Crew get in here!

[spursparker9]

Vic subbed himself back into the game against the Grizzlies last night :lol

Uh oh......Sniff Crew get in here!

I missed the game. Any clip of this mutiny treason action?

[spurraider21]

Vic subbed himself back into the game against the Grizzlies last night :lol

Uh oh......Sniff Crew get in here!
Not spurs material. Just sell and move on. Nobody bats 1.000 in the draft

[SpurSpike]

I missed the game. Any clip of this mutiny treason action?

There is a clutchpoints article about it, here is the link.

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-victor-wembanyama-checked-himself-back-into-grizzlies-game-despite-not-allowed

“I wasn't allowed to sub in but I still did it. The coach sent me out right after,”

Asked, following the 106-98 loss (https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-victor-wembanyama-ja-morant-grizzlies-shot-half-court-logo), if he feels like he's ready to play more minutes, Wemby didn't hesitate.
“Yes,” the top overall pick in the 2023 NBA Draft answered with perhaps as much frustration as anticipation.

“At the moment, of course, I want to play. I'm frustrated. The wise option is to listen to the staff but it's hard. It's frustrating.”

[Extra Stout]

I bet he’s regretting that fist pump now. Imagine how he’d develop under Ime Udoka.

[Mugen]

I bet he’s regretting that fist pump now. Imagine how he’d develop under Ime Udoka.

Shit, he probably regretted it on Day 1 of training camp when he showed up ready to work...and Pop had them all write a 2 pager on Rosa Parks :lol

[cd98]

The problem with Tre is that he is not a threat to make three pointers. At the Celtic game, sometimes the nearest defender was 10 feet away when he had the basketball at the three point line. I'm wondering if this is why he is not starting. Branham is a better shooter, but not a better point guard, but I think his shooting is why he starts.

[spurraider21]

The problem with Tre is that he is not a threat to make three pointers. At the Celtic game, sometimes the nearest defender was 10 feet away when he had the basketball at the three point line. I'm wondering if this is why he is not starting. Branham is a better shooter, but not a better point guard, but I think his shooting is why he starts.
Branham is a very bad 3 point shooter

it’s like starting bonner over Blair for rim protection purposes

[duncan2150]

Branham is a very bad 3 point shooter

it’s like starting bonner over Blair for rim protection purposes

not advocating for branham but he is not that bad and not comparable to Jones in anyway

last month branham shoots a 35.6% for 3 ( 3.2 attempts and 32% for the year)… not bad. While Jones shoot at 15% in that period.

[Ditty]

I bet he’s regretting that fist pump now. Imagine how he’d develop under Ime Udoka.

Probably not much more.

Amen is hardly playing off the bench with Holiday taking the most minutes and Whitemore has been in the D-League and only playing in garbage time.

[Pauleta14]

Interesting that Wemby REQUESTED that the cause of his missed game was "rest" and not "ankle injury"

Add that to him subbing himself in the game (has that ever happened under Pop?) and it starts to be a lot of negative signals he's sending.

Next game is on TNT and he's probably raging about his min restrictions when he'll have to face Giannis for the 1st time

[Spurs Homer]

During a free throw - (didnt read article btw)
wemby appeared to be telling the bench he was ok and could play longer -

of course - pop subbed him out regardless -

then i was shocked to see wemby out there really quickly - and it seems like (of course) it was not pop who put him back in...

[Tyronn Lue]

Interesting that Wemby REQUESTED that the cause of his missed game was "rest" and not "ankle injury"

Add that to him subbing himself in the game (has that ever happened under Pop?) and it starts to be a lot of negative signals he's sending.

Next game is on TNT and he's probably raging about his min restrictions when he'll have to face Giannis for the 1st time
I wonder if games missed due to injury affect contract negotiations or some other aspect of the business dealings. Or if Victor just thinks it's bullshit and doesn't want to play along with the tanking charade. Are teams going to be fined for resting guys this year? There will be a lot of injuries.

[Pauleta14]

I don't think it's what's in Victor's mind. He just doesn't want to be labbeled injury prone. An easy cliche for dudes his size

[ginobilized]

It will be telling to see how Pop handles this "insubordination" and frustration.

I wondered why Wemby went in and came right back out at the end.

What a season of discombobulation. I'm starting to notice that Wemby isn't the only player either missed or, worse, hit with a pass out of position or thrown a step too late. They really seem to have no idea where each other are on the court, nor, do they have good offensive instincts. They started the season much better, strangely.

[Mugen]

I'm 100% interested in seeing a Sniffer's take on Wemby subbing himself in tbh. 100% serious.

[spurraider21]

I'm 100% interested in seeing a Sniffer's take on Wemby subbing himself in tbh. 100% serious.
wemby is being immature and selfish. but he'll learn the spurs way and get over himself soon enough. its times like these i'm especially grateful pop has stuck around

[NASpurs]

I'm 100% interested in seeing a Sniffer's take on Wemby subbing himself in tbh. 100% serious.

Let's hope that Wemby has some of that "Deron Williams" in him.

[Mugen]

wemby is being immature and selfish. but he'll learn the spurs way and get over himself soon enough. its times like these i'm especially grateful pop has stuck around

I think the spin is going to be that it was just a big nothingburger and probably some type of miscommunication but need confirmation tbh.

[Pauleta14]

Just remembered that next game is his birthday and on TNT, let's hope Pop doesn't waste it

[CGD]

I wonder what effect playing fake the national team will have on Wemby. Much is made on American players making a “jump” after an Olympic stint. Will it be the same for Wemby? And if so are the Spurs ready to accelerate their building around him?

[Pauleta14]

National team will mainly bring emotions and tiredeness to Wemby

It's diff for US players who actually discover new type of basketball, new rules etc bringing them new perspectives and teaching them to adapt etc

Wemby like all euros already experiment that when they discover NBA

[BatManu20]

Happy 20th Birthday Wemby. No longer can we say that “he’s the first teenager to…” blah blah blah. They grow up so fast tbh :cry

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[BatManu20]

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[spurraider21]

i would die a happy man if the spurs got slapped with a fine for what they're doing to wemby tbh

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[spurraider21]

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[Pauleta14]

A couple more weeks of frustrations for a ghost injuty is mental...

[Thomas82]

I strongly suspect the minutes restriction is a form of sandbagging.

I feel the same way.

[scott]

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Also, Wemby 8th in West Frontcourt All-Star voting in the first count

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[scott]

IIRC, the Spurs have not done any Social Media campaigning for All-Star votes to date.

[Thomas82]

Interesting that Wemby REQUESTED that the cause of his missed game was "rest" and not "ankle injury"

Add that to him subbing himself in the game (has that ever happened under Pop?) and it starts to be a lot of negative signals he's sending.

Next game is on TNT and he's probably raging about his min restrictions when he'll have to face Giannis for the 1st time

Add to that the fact that today is Wemby's birthday.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swo3dOkMs68

[Knoxxx]

Wemby added some incredible highlights to the resume tonight. Capping Giannis’ ass when he tried the “go into his body” drive at the end was worth everything. Imagine when Wemby fills out a little more and does that regularly to the Greek Geek or similar fools still getting away with it now.

[NASpurs]

Get this man some legitimate players around him!

[scott]

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Vassell sending a message.

edit: wrong thread