The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[spurraider21]

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[Knoxxx]

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Wemby seems to be barely scratching the surface of what he could do with better anticipation and postitioning too.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDErpw4WcAAI6AQ?format=jpg&name=large

[CGD]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDErpw4WcAAI6AQ?format=jpg&name=large

This is the picture of the year for Spurs fans

[heyheymymy]

Happy Birthday Victor

What a birthday game, living legend Wembanyama took over the 4th quarter. Future is bright for Spurs fans!

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEy0pLQRiOM

[baseline bum]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDErpw4WcAAI6AQ?format=jpg&name=large

One of the nastiest blocks I have ever seen in my life. Giannis going downhill full head of steam, bumps Victor, and still gets his shit rejected. Can't recall ever seeing anyone stop Giannis like that.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1743313871132377213

If he was actually playing 36 minutes with these stats he'd be in the MVP discussion.

[thiste]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDEcgURWsAAsTm0.jpg

[Knoxxx]

What I see here is “fool me once, shame on you”. Giannis bumped Wemby hard earlier in the game to create space and score inside. The next time Wemby said, “fool me twice, no effin way”. So basically he is just gaining the experience and learning each veteran opponents’ tactics and dirty tricks. It’s not that he can’t stop anyone physically, the answer is yes he can even though he is only a much too skinny “over hyped bust” at this stage of his career. According to the haters.

[Pauleta14]

Victor also showed he's stronger than he looks. That core is solid af

[tim_duncan_fan]

This dude is good.

[heyheymymy]

Wait is that Giannis' hand on Victor's face in the block photo?

Guess the shoulder slam wasn't enough so he had to shove Wemby's face too and still got rejected.

Three fingers on Victor's cheek like bro at least take me out to dinner first

[heyheymymy]

That block pic is such a textbook snapshot of a fundamentally clean block. Just all ball and nothing else. Incredible.

Dare I say it reminds me of TD's rim protection.

[CorrectCrusader]

One of the nastiest blocks I have ever seen in my life. Giannis going downhill full head of steam, bumps Victor, and still gets his shit rejected. Can't recall ever seeing anyone stop Giannis like that.

You can't recall because this is the first time Wemby has played Giannis. He is THE one of one player.

[spurraider21]

That block pic is such a textbook snapshot of a fundamentally clean block. Just all ball and nothing else. Incredible.

Dare I say it reminds me of TD's rim protection.
its a phenomenal shot. just captures the absurdity of his length. their shoulders are about equal since giannis is higher in the air, but wemby is still reaching higher despite his arms being angled to try to get to the shot, while giannis' arm is almost exactly vertical

[Spurs Brazil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxB2Bosl-iQ

[TheBallsbreakers]

Wait is that Giannis' hand on Victor's face in the block photo?

Guess the shoulder slam wasn't enough so he had to shove Wemby's face too and still got rejected.

Three fingers on Victor's cheek like bro at least take me out to dinner first
haha

[daslicer]

What I see here is “fool me once, shame on you”. Giannis bumped Wemby hard earlier in the game to create space and score inside. The next time Wemby said, “fool me twice, no effin way”. So basically he is just gaining the experience and learning each veteran opponents’ tactics and dirty tricks. It’s not that he can’t stop anyone physically, the answer is yes he can even though he is only a much too skinny “over hyped bust” at this stage of his career. According to the haters.

Giannis said something interesting after the game when asked about if Victor needs to get stronger. Giannis' response was and I'm paraphrasing "No he doesn't need to get stronger he's already fine the way he is. He just needs experience and once he gets it, he's going to be great. Putting on muscle not always a good thing it could slow him down and make him less fluid."

[spurraider21]

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[Mugen]

I can't believe there are still Chet v Wemby debates tbh

If they want to give that Abe Lincoln mfer the ROY award because team success counts all of a sudden for that, then go for it. But there isn't a fucking GM alive that would trade Wemby for him :lol

[spurraider21]

I can't believe there are still Chet v Wemby debates tbh

If they want to give that Abe Lincoln mfer the ROY award because team success counts all of a sudden for that, then go for it. But there isn't a fucking GM alive that would trade Wemby for him :lol
i dno if thats really the criterion tho

[GB20]

I can't believe there are still Chet v Wemby debates tbh

If they want to give that Abe Lincoln mfer the ROY award because team success counts all of a sudden for that, then go for it. But there isn't a fucking GM alive that would trade Wemby for him :lol
100%. I can guarantee you that the thunder will trade the whole team for Wemby. Just imagine how Victor will look in 3 years if he is still healthy.

[spurraider21]

wemby's stats since moving to center full time:

https://i.gyazo.com/756350a3d50769fd0c201febc3fe246d.png

*before going 2-8 from 3 against the bucks, he was hitting 35.6% of his threes in this stretch


compared to his stats when he was starting alongside collins:

https://i.gyazo.com/c594344fb86c9b66c559808880dd39e8.png


some of this could also be attributed to him having learned what works and what doesnt and just improving with experience. could also be attributed to end of point sochan experiment. but noteworthy nevertheless imo

[thiste]

Stocks (steals+blocks) leaders with minutes played this season:

132 stocks in 879 minutes — Victor Wembanyama
130 stocks in 1223 minutes — Anthony Davis
127 stocks in 1089 minutes — Brook Lopez
111 stocks in 1019 minutes — Chet Holmgren
104 stocks in 1149 minutes — Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

[exstatic]

Stocks (steals+blocks) leaders with minutes played this season:

132 stocks in 879 minutes — Victor Wembanyama
130 stocks in 1223 minutes — Anthony Davis
127 stocks in 1089 minutes — Brook Lopez
111 stocks in 1019 minutes — Chet Holmgren
104 stocks in 1149 minutes — Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

Wow. That’s definitely DPOY fuel.

[SpursFan86]

Another casual 24/10/3/1/5 statline in just 25 mpg. If he keeps up this type of per-minute production and he goes back to playing 30-32 mpg we’re going to see some absurd numbers. Not to mention that as a rookie he’s getting better each week just by virtue of experience.

[baseline bum]

Wow. That’s definitely DPOY fuel.

Pop, Branham, and Sochan already sabotaged that for Victor

[Bruno]

Spurs will play a game in France next year.
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[ace3g]

Still can't believe the league didn't give the Spurs the game this year...

[Mugen]

Wow. That’s definitely DPOY fuel.

:lol Yeah they're really gonna give it to a guy on one of the worst defenses in nba history

[thiste]

In the last 10 games, Victor had made 19 threes while attempting 48. That puts him at 39.6% from three on almost 5 attempts per game.

Now you can tell anyone bringing Chet up for ROTY to GTFO with their "efficiency" argument.

[BatManu20]

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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1745271957845655557

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDh8nlCW0AAoqpx?format=png&name=small

[z0sa]

0 Turnovers is the most impressive part.

[heyheymymy]

Victor Wembanyama with the 5th fastest triple double in NBA history.

Victor is the tallest player to ever record a triple double with assists as one of the legs.

Victor Wembanyama is the youngest player in Spurs history to record a triple-double.

[DAF86]

Victor Wembanyama with the 5th fastest triple double in NBA history.

Victor is the tallest player to ever record a triple double with assists as one of the legs.

Victor Wembanyama is the youngest player in Spurs history to record a triple-double.

I'm pretty sure Wemby is the tallest player to record a triple double. Period. :lol

[heyheymymy]

Saw this on reddit:

same height Mark Eaton has had a 12 block trip dub in his rookie year as well.

Manute at 7'7" had a 15 block/19 reb/10 pts trip dub in his second year

[heyheymymy]

Hence the assist qualifier

[cutewizard]

Growing right before our eyes

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpBdVCwkRq4

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziV_yBHbM7o

[Maddog]

Saw this on reddit:

same height Mark Eaton has had a 12 block trip dub in his rookie year as well.

Manute at 7'7" had a 15 block/19 reb/10 pts trip dub in his second year


Blocks are a lot harder to come by these days. Lot less shots in the paint and also the fact the man your gaurding may be out on the perimeter

[couchman]

I’m taking a moment this morning to reflect on how insanely good Wemby has already been less than halfway through his rookie year. The mixtape is gonna be sick!

I know most of us expected the team to also be better this year but the future is bright with VW

[Davidicus]

Do we have an exact date or rough estimate of when they’re reevaluating his ankle? I feel like Pop said “1-2 weeks” 1-2 weeks ago.

[exstatic]

Do we have an exact date or rough estimate of when they’re reevaluating his ankle? I feel like Pop said “1-2 weeks” 1-2 weeks ago.

I think it was something generic like “several” weeks. His ankle is fine, BTW. A few games ago, when he appeared to be popping to catch a pass, then planted hard and cut to the hoop for a dunk? It was that plant foot ankle.

[Extra Stout]

I think it was something generic like “several” weeks. His ankle is fine, BTW. A few games ago, when he appeared to be popping to catch a pass, then planted hard and cut to the hoop for a dunk? It was that plant foot ankle.
Yes, his ankle is fine. Pop is sandbagging in order to tank. He sabotages the team up to the point of plausible deniability and/or player revolt. The “point guard experiment” excuse ran out of juice, so now he has to play other cards. If he played Victor normal minutes, the team would win too many games.

One the Spurs get far enough into the season with a bad enough record that they feel secure about the likelihood of a high enough pick, Pop will suddenly become as intelligent as a casual fan and make normal decisions, causing the team to surge in March and April. This “improvement” will also serve as a source of optimism going forward, even though it is totally manufactured.

[heyheymymy]

Victor Wembanyama's career-high stats after just 32 games in the NBA --

PTS: 38, REB: 20, AST: 10, BLK: 8, STL: 6


Through just 32 games played in the NBA and at just 20 years old, Victor Wembanyama has already posted career-high stats in each category that the vast majority of players will never achieve in their entire NBA journeys.

PTS: 38 vs. PHX - Nov. 2

REB: 20 vs. CHI - Dec. 8

AST: 10 vs. DET - Jan. 10

BLK: 8 vs. MEM - Nov. 18

STL: 6 vs. DEN - Nov. 26

[heyheymymy]

I dont know about "vast majority will never have" I think 10 ast isn't that gaudy

Still pretty cool snapshot early career high marks notched by Victor in each stat category

[playbonner15]

https://x.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1745990070056976702

[scott]

We didn't have a Game Thread for the Hawks matchup, but boy what a special 2nd half that was to watch from Wemby. Still can't believe he is a Spur.

[ace3g]

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[Spurs Homer]

Really good learning experience today…

hate to say it- but pop apparently woke the fuck up long enough to actually give a fuck and bench some starters including wemby

only took 31 and a half fucking losses for pop to realize that babying the team is doing no one no favors

players seem to have responded including wemby

and wembyhad to get benched on national tv for him to actually wake up from his slumber

if not for the shit play of keldon and vassell it would have been a W

[SpurSpike]

We didn't have a Game Thread for the Hawks matchup, but boy what a special 2nd half that was to watch from Wemby. Still can't believe he is a Spur.

Must have been a strong second half because I checked at the half and he was 11 minutes 0 points and like 2 rebounds 0/4 from the field, or something like that. I check now and he got 27 minutes 26 points 13 rebounds 2 assists!

[Knoxxx]

There is no limit to his potential, the hype was for realz!

[thiste]

Must have been a strong second half because I checked at the half and he was 11 minutes 0 points and like 2 rebounds 0/4 from the field, or something like that. I check now and he got 27 minutes 26 points 13 rebounds 2 assists!

At half time he was:
0 PTS
4 REB
0 AST
1 TOV
0 FG% (0/4)
In 11 minutes


At full time he was:
26 PTS
13 REB
2 AST
5 BLK
2 STL
66.7 FG% (12/18)
100.0 FT%
In 27 minutes

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02v9ceR-tiw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SQtNj5MRtc

[Knoxxx]

He could have the NBA’s first ever 50-30-10-10-5 game one day. Or maybe make that 20 assists and 10 steals, a quintuple double. I think they are under counting his blocks also, and each time they call a foul on one of his blocks it seems more than likely a blown call.

[scott]

Must have been a strong second half because I checked at the half and he was 11 minutes 0 points and like 2 rebounds 0/4 from the field, or something like that. I check now and he got 27 minutes 26 points 13 rebounds 2 assists!

Yeah, it was truly a magical 2nd half. When we got within 6, I texted a friend that I didn't even care if we won the game... it was awesome just to see Wemby do what he did in the 2nd half.

[ginobilized]

Can someone please fire Reggie Miller for constantly mispronouncing Wembanyama?
So irritating

[heyheymymy]

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[lefty]

Can someone please fire Reggie Miller for constantly mispronouncing Wembanyama?
So irritating

just for mispronouncing?

His voice is annoying

[MultiTroll]

Get this man a coach and some teamates.

Another fabulous game vs Hawks.

[Rocalcio]

Can someone please fire Reggie Miller for constantly mispronouncing Wembanyama?
So irritating

That still drives me crazy, it’s not like he hasn’t heard this name a thousand times already.

[SupremeGuy]

We didn't have a Game Thread for the Hawks matchup, but boy what a special 2nd half that was to watch from Wemby. Still can't believe he is a Spur.He almost singlehandedly brought us back to win but then KJ had to start heroballing. Smh.

[Splits]

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[SpurSpike]

Sean said something interesting the other day during a game. He said that 3 of Wemby's past coaches came to see a game recently and they said something along the lines of not being surprised to see the team struggling early with the addition of Wemby. That the same thing had happened to each of their teams too when Wemby was added because he was such a unique talent. That it took a while for the teams to figure out how to best play with him.

I thought that was both interesting and encouraging to see that this is just part of the process to adding a talent like Wemby to your team.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/NBA_University/status/1747257860474720334

[MannyIsGod]

Watching this kid play it will be robbery if they award ROTY to Chet. I get wanting to use team success in awards like MVP, but in ROTY? Why? It makes no damn sense. Plus there's no GM in the league who's taking Chet over Wemby. The dude came in with the most hype we've seen on a rookie in decades and has done nothing but live up to it and blow us all away but because Chet plays with an MVP candidate and had a year to learn from coaches he gets to win? Fuck that.

[RC_Drunkford]

Wemby is on the Spurs though. This is how the NBA treats the Spurs. Our players are always at a disadvantage when it comes to individual accolades. Having Pop as a head coach doesn't help.

[rjv]

That next Chet/Wemby showdown will be interesting, even it the spurs get curb stomped.

[Thomas82]

That next Chet/Wemby showdown will be interesting, even it the spurs get curb stomped.

It's actually a week from tomorrow, and ESPN is showing the game.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Chet with another ROTY-esque statline of 8 points and 5 rebounds in 33 minutes against the Clips.

[buttsR4rebounding]

He could have the NBA’s first ever 50-30-10-10-5 game one day. Or maybe make that 20 assists and 10 steals, a quintuple double. I think they are under counting his blocks also, and each time they call a foul on one of his blocks it seems more than likely a blown call.

Even the travel call in the first quarter was wrong. It was only 2 steps, just really long steps.

[Rocalcio]

Chet with another ROTY-esque statline of 8 points and 5 rebounds in 33 minutes against the Clips.

He’s been really bad lately, there is no way this month award doesn’t go to Victor

[John B]

Can someone please fire Reggie Miller for constantly mispronouncing Wembanyama?
So irritating

On the contrary, it was nice to hear Reggie as very appreciative of Spurs’ defense on Trae in the 2nd half, particularly Wesley’s. It was great to see Wesley being appreciated like that and on national television. I rarely take the TNT crew seriously, but they highly support how Pop is handling the team with patience, Wemby in the best situation, as opposed to so-called fans who think Pop mishandling the team. Barkeley even commented that while people see Wemby being good for 2 years, Pop is preparing the team to be competitive for 10 years (and more).

[Rocalcio]

On the contrary, it was nice to hear Reggie as very appreciative of Spurs’ defense on Trae in the 2nd half, particularly Wesley’s. It was great to see Wesley being appreciated like that and on national television. I rarely take the TNT crew seriously, but they highly support how Pop is handling the team with patience, Wemby in the best situation, as opposed to so-called fans who think Pop mishandling the team. Barkeley even commented that while people see Wemby being good for 2 years, Pop is preparing the team to be competitive for 10 years (and more).

I agree with that, I noticed the praises on Wesley too. But he needs to learn how to pronounce Victor's name correctly.

[lefty]

:lol Fuck Reggie Miller , that sensitive clown blocked me on Twitter because I corrected him on a tweet
:lol and they say only today's players are sensitive

[RC_Drunkford]

On the contrary, it was nice to hear Reggie as very appreciative of Spurs’ defense on Trae in the 2nd half, particularly Wesley’s. It was great to see Wesley being appreciated like that and on national television. I rarely take the TNT crew seriously, but they highly support how Pop is handling the team with patience, Wemby in the best situation, as opposed to so-called fans who think Pop mishandling the team. Barkeley even commented that while people see Wemby being good for 2 years, Pop is preparing the team to be competitive for 10 years (and more).

none of these guys watch the Spurs. They just go with the narrative "oh it's Pop he's one of the greatest, he got that system". Easy to say now that he started coaching, but what about when he didn't do shit and started a PF at PG?

[Frenchfred]

He’s been really bad lately, there is no way this month award doesn’t go to Victor

yep, his January numbers are not as good as before, Wemby should get rookie of the month.

[spurraider21]

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[thiste]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1747766934186434715

[Rocalcio]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1747766934186434715

Trae wants to come to SA !

[John B]

Trae wants to come to SA !

Both ATL guards are auditioning for the Spurs. Pick me, pick me :lol

[Rocalcio]

Both ATL guards are auditioning for the Spurs. Pick me, pick me :lol

I wouldn’t be surprised to see many free agents interested to come to SA just to play alongside Victor.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/StephNoh/status/1747998346181025825

[thiste]

We're trending towards being an average team!! (also we've got a better defense than OKC :lol )

https://twitter.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1748352682752946680

[DAF86]

An above average defense during that span. I wonder our defensive numbers with and without Wemby playing center.

[NASpurs]

https://theathletic.com/5211929/2024/01/19/victor-wembanyama-midseason-nba-report-rookie-year/

Victor Wembanyama at the halfway point: The good, the bad and the unbelievable

John Hollinger
Jan 19, 2024

[Seventyniner]

https://theathletic.com/5211929/2024/01/19/victor-wembanyama-midseason-nba-report-rookie-year/

Victor Wembanyama at the halfway point: The good, the bad and the unbelievable

John Hollinger
Jan 19, 2024

Thanks for the article and link.

For this particular site (and some others), you can do a quick Ctrl + A to select all text and Ctrl + C to copy before the paywall stuff comes up. Then paste the text somewhere like Notepad or Word and you can read at your leisure. You miss any graphics but you get all the text. But you have to do it fairly quickly.

[CGD]

We're trending towards being an average team!! (also we've got a better defense than OKC :lol )

https://twitter.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1748352682752946680

My cynical take on the minutes restriction is that the Spurs are trying to teach Wemby how to be more efficient overall. He was understandably terrible to start the year with bigger minutes, and has dramatically improved in that area (3pt efficiency aside).

[DesignatedT]

My cynical take on the minutes restriction is that the Spurs are trying to teach Wemby how to be more efficient overall. He was understandably terrible to start the year with bigger minutes, and has dramatically improved in that area (3pt efficiency aside).

I think that had more to do with Wemby playing out of position and Sochan running the point.

[DAF86]

My cynical take on the minutes restriction is that the Spurs are trying to teach Wemby how to be more efficient overall. He was understandably terrible to start the year with bigger minutes, and has dramatically improved in that area (3pt efficiency aside).

They had him playing like a 7'4" Allen Iverson to start the season. The efficiency problems had to do with that, not the amount of minutes.

[Leetonidas]

My sniffer take on the minutes restriction is that the Spurs are trying to teach Wemby how to be more efficient overall. He was understandably terrible to start the year with bigger minutes, and has dramatically improved in that area (3pt efficiency aside).

Fixed

[CGD]

Fixed

Bro, the frequency with which you talk about your fascination with being intimately close to the male asshole is concerning.

[CGD]

They had him playing like a 7'4" Allen Iverson to start the season. The efficiency problems had to do with that, not the amount of minutes.

Whose idea do you think that was?

[DAF86]

https://theathletic.com/5211929/2024/01/19/victor-wembanyama-midseason-nba-report-rookie-year/

Victor Wembanyama at the halfway point: The good, the bad and the unbelievable

John Hollinger
Jan 19, 2024

From the article:


After a disastrous first quarter of the season, the Spurs finally moved Sochan off the ball, moved Collins out of the starting lineup and shifted Wembanyama to center. Lo and behold, keeping the 7-4 guy closer to the basket seemed to pay some dividends.

This has always been such an obvious conclusion that I still can't believe I got so much push back when I made that thread, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

Whose idea do you think that was?

It is always the coach's responsability.

[CGD]

It is always the coach's responsability.

OK, and alienate the generational prospect who had been messaging for well over a year before the draft that he "doesn't want to play center" "wants to fully express himself as a person via basketball" "doesnt want to be limited in any way on the court" etc. etc.? That's all he was talking about leading up to the draft.

Gotta have situational awareness here.

It's like the parent with a precocious child that thinks he or she knows best about everything bc things have always come easy-- some times the parent needs to step back and give the child time to be humbled a little by the world before the lessons set in. Top down, heavy hand would actually be counterproductive. I'm not saying Vic is a Divo or anything, but i do think he's used to being the best of the best and maybe thought the transition to the NBA would have been seemless.

Sprinkle in some trauma Pop still has about Kawhi (see, microphone incident) and you could see why they wanted to give to Vic early to "play free" so he can learn some tough lessons.

[Leetonidas]

Bro, the frequency with which you talk about your fascination with being intimately close to the male asshole is concerning.

Lolwut. That was a random and gay comment

[DAF86]

OK, and alienate the generational prospect who had been messaging for well over a year before the draft that he "doesn't want to play center" "wants to fully express himself as a person via basketball" "doesnt want to be limited in any way on the court" etc. etc.? That's all he was talking about leading up to the draft.

Gotta have situational awareness here.

It's like the parent with a precocious child that thinks he or she knows best about everything bc things have always come easy-- some times the parent needs to step back and give the child time to be humbled a little by the world before the lessons set in. Top down, heavy hand would actually be counterproductive. I'm not saying Vic is a Divo or anything, but i do think he's used to being the best of the best and maybe thought the transition to the NBA would have been seemless.

Sprinkle in some trauma Pop still has about Kawhi (see, microphone incident) and you could see why they wanted to give to Vic early to "play free" so he can learn some tough lessons.

First, Wemby never said he didn't want to play center, he just said he didn't want to be put in a box. Does it look like he's being put in a box? Does it seem like Vic isn't "playing free" since becoming the full time center? He's doing all the things he likes, just with a purpose and a better "perimeter to paint" ratio now. I don't know why this couldn't have been the case since the start.

[polandprzem]

Chet with another ROTY-esque statline of 8 points and 5 rebounds in 33 minutes against the Clips.
I assume it's better then 0pts in 0 minutes

[polandprzem]

So many minutes and playing time restrictions puts stamp on his physical preparation.

He is putting nice stats being so well rested in those games he played/. I like him getting better on D and more competitive with battling for rebs and overall. Those are his biggest weaknesses. Well he still not a good shooter :lol

[Pauleta14]

He has a better 3pt % that KD Lebron or Dirk in their rookie season

Try harder poland

[Kurgan]

I assume it's better then 0pts in 0 minutes

Chet's REAL rookie season: 0 games played
Wemby's rookie season: 35 games played so far

[CorrectCrusader]

From the article:



This has always been such an obvious conclusion that I still can't believe I got so much push back when I made that thread, tbh. :lol

It's almost like the guy with the greatest rim defending potential should be at the rim. "BUT MUH EMBIID AND JOKIC" stfu

[DAF86]

So many minutes and playing time restrictions puts stamp on his physical preparation.

He is putting nice stats being so well rested in those games he played/. I like him getting better on D and more competitive with battling for rebs and overall. Those are his biggest weaknesses. Well he still not a good shooter :lol

Imagine choosing to be the "anti-Wemby" guy. What a weird role to take as a supossed Spurfan on a Spurs forum, tbh.

[Frenchfred]

Chet's REAL rookie season: 0 games played
Wemby's rookie season: 35 games played so far

:lmao Touche

[Rocalcio]

I assume it's better then 0pts in 0 minutes

It hurts the average

[polandprzem]

It hurts the average
Still you have to play 70% off the games so the stats counts

[polandprzem]

Imagine choosing to be the "anti-Wemby" guy. What a weird role to take as a supossed Spurfan on a Spurs forum, tbh.

I am more pro Wemby then all you fake non knowledgeable fans

[DAF86]

I am more pro Wemby then all you fake non knowledgeable fans

Only a hater would make such a dumb comment like ":baby betterrr than zzzero pointzzz in zzzero minutezzz :baby"

[LeBowen]

Anyone who thinks Chet can get in the same sentence with Wemby should go back to learning the basics of basketball.

But the media need something to write about and are sick of foreign players being better than domestic prospects.
More or less the same thing like Luka vs Trae debate.

[polandprzem]

Only a hater would make such a dumb comment like ":baby betterrr than zzzero pointzzz in zzzero minutezzz :baby"

Stated a fact

[DAF86]

Stated a fact

Not really. Is better to not play, than to bring your averages down by scoring 8 pts.

[polandprzem]

Not really. Is better to not play, than to bring your averages down by scoring 8 pts.

Better to bring something then nothing

[Raven]

the theory that a doctor would order a minutes restriction is so mindblowingly stupid, i wonder who is pop trying to sell it to.

[Rocalcio]

Better to bring something then nothing

Not here.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Still you have to play 70% off the games so the stats counts

What does that mean?

[polandprzem]

What does that mean?
https://www.nba.com/stats/help/statminimums

There are minumus although in that case it does not matter.
Also you need to play 65 games in order to get NBA awards. I double check it and it not says about rookie of the year but I assume it might matter.

But overall I do not get the discussion about ROTY. It's a lock. Unless something drastic can happen

[stnick2261]

https://www.nba.com/stats/help/statminimums

There are minumus although in that case it does not matter.
Also you need to play 65 games in order to get NBA awards. I double check it and it not says about rookie of the year but I assume it might matter.

But overall I do not get the discussion about ROTY. It's a lock. Unless something drastic can happen


** MINIMUMS FOR NBA ROOKIE LEADERS
(half of the overall-requirement)

On the page you linked. Wemby only has to play 35 games to be a Rookie Leader in stats. As far as ROY, the CBA doesn't specifically mention that, but says 65 games for all of the “Applicable Generally Recognized League Honors." But it does specifically list MVP, DPOY, MIP, All-NBA teams, and All-NBA Def teams... so it seems ROY is the only thing missing (so I would assume there is no requirement there, except everywhere else online states they have to play 65 games).

[DAF86]

Wemby could take some flopping lessons by Manu, tbh. There were a couple of instances last night where Embiid straight up bulldozed Wemby striaght in the chest where, if Wemby would have just sold the evident offensive foul, the refs wouldn't have had any other option but to call that shit.

[Fizziksman]

Wemby could take some flopping lessons by Manu, tbh. There were a couple of instances last night where Embiid straight up bulldozed Wemby striaght in the chest where, if Wemby would have just sold the evident offensive foul, the refs wouldn't have had any other option but to call that shit.

it is the thing that is infuriating about a FT merchant like Embiid. He's allowed to be physical but when you put any sort of resistance you get a call. Giannis only shot 6 FTs against the Spurs in his 44 point game.

[Spurs Homer]

it is the thing that is infuriating about a FT merchant like Embiid. He's allowed to be physical but when you put any sort of resistance you get a call. Giannis only shot 6 FTs against the Spurs in his 44 point game.


Yeah, but those 6 ft's took giannis about 2 and a half hours to shoot!

[scott]

1749975305589023016

At least he's in good company?

[Tyronn Lue]

Depends on how they judge it. A tough C&S 3 for Strus probably isn't as tough for someone 7'5. Victor can shoot over just about anyone, so if the defender is right on him, it's not really going to alter his shot. he's just not a knock down 3pt shooter. His shot is fluid and release is smooth, good arch and rotation. Because of this and his height, he's considered a 3pt threat when really teams should just let him shoot until his % gets to 30 or so. Just because not many 7'5 guys can shoot the 3 smoothly doesn't mean Victor is a thread just because he can. There are other NBA players who have a good shot release and rotation, can't hit at a high enough rate to make them a threat.

[Pauleta14]

I miss David Aldridge on TV

Here on Wemby for The Athletic...


https://youtu.be/l-Lv5iV_uKM?si=ybiO5oCrWfdZfGLz

[djohn2oo8]

I miss David Aldridge on TV

Here on Wemby for The Athletic...


https://youtu.be/l-Lv5iV_uKM?si=ybiO5oCrWfdZfGLz
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[manufan10]

:cry :cry :cry

[djohn2oo8]

So the Spurs have a worse record than last year while adding Victor?

[baseline bum]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

LOL so bitter about Victor cheering when the Rockets got called for the #4 pick

[djohn2oo8]

Can Victor WILL the Spurs to just ONE win better than last year?

[ismael-robert]

They've masterfully calculated the amount of time he can play while maintaining bottom 3

[DAF86]

Can Victor WILL the Spurs to just ONE win better than last year?

If we could play the Rockets every game, probably.

[DAF86]

qCct-fBmBQg?si=DRXQ9-k5A2fFk8Nt
Dejounte that Sixers' defensive strategy is why we need to surround Wemby with real shooters, tbh.

[DAF86]

R4_XtNi7A08?si=_CFVI7E6_zBuYBhH

[djohn2oo8]

If we could play the Rockets every game, probably.
So that’s a no? Doesn’t sound so generational.

[Sugus]

So that’s a no? Doesn’t sound so generational.

:lol judging a player's worth by team record in a tanking season :lol

[MannyIsGod]

So that’s a no? Doesn’t sound so generational.

No one believes you man. You keep trying to troll, but we ALL KNOW you would LOVE to have Victor. Just stop man.

[emanueldavidginobili]

1747749287058940085

Outrageous hating at this point, mentioning Chet in this and not bringing up Victor is wild.

[baseline bum]

No one believes you man. You keep trying to troll, but we ALL KNOW you would LOVE to have Victor. Just stop man.

LOL tanking for three years and all they get out if it is Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, and Amen Thompson. I would have been mad as hell at Wemby cheering when my team got pick #4 after that too.

[Sugus]

LOL tanking for three years and all they get out if it is Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, and Amen Thompson. I would have been mad as hell at Wemby cheering when my team got pick #4 after that too.

:lmao Rockettes :lmao

God damn, remembering that draft will never stop being delicious. That fist bump from Victor said it all... Generational talent going to his favorite team, a match made in heaven :cry

[DAF86]

yBzzYEwsFsc?si=zic9_PbllHXkNq90

[thiste]

Last night against Portland, Victor passed Greg Anderson to become 3rd for most blocks by a rookie in Spurs history:

1. David Robinson: 319 blocks in 82 games, 3002 minutes (89/90)
2. Tim Duncan: 206 blocks in 82 games, 3204 minutes (97/98)
3. Victor Wembanyama: 123 blocks in 39 games, 1111 minutes (23/24)
4. Greg Anderson: 122 blocks in 82 games, 1984 minutes (87/88)

He's not gonna catch Dave because he's not gonna play 3000 minutes, but he's on pace to beat Timmy.

[TD 21]

Robinson block % rookie/career: 6.5/5.7
Duncan block % rookie/career: 4.5/4.6
Wembanyama block % rookie: 9.5

He's basically at a level that only mid - late 80s Bol was clearly higher than and is probably comparable since moving to C, despite being in an era with far greater spacing.

[TimmehC]

It's absolutely nuts that we've had the two guys with best defensive rating in the 3-point era (TD and 50) but this dude might actually be better than both of them.

[polandprzem]

Robinson block % rookie/career: 6.5/5.7
Duncan block % rookie/career: 4.5/4.6
Wembanyama block % rookie: 9.5

He's basically at a level that only mid - late 80s Bol was clearly higher than and is probably comparable since moving to C, despite being in an era with far greater spacing.

Let's see how he develops in the direction of being one of the greatest at shot blocking. If he will be better at positioning on D we might see him blocking 4 a game next season.

He already filled his biggest holes to a acceptable degree.
In a half a season he made some nice progressions.

[thiste]

40 games into their NBA careers:

LeBron — 20.4 PPG | 5.9 RPG | 6.2 APG | 1.6 SPG | 0.7 BPG | 41.7/27.3/76.5 FG% — 40.3 MIN
Durant — 19.3 PPG | 4.2 RPG | 2.1 APG | 0.8 SPG | 1.1 BPG | 40.0/29.6/86.1 FG% — 33.0 MIN
Victor — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN

[Ocotillo]

After 40 games:

LeBron — 20.4 PPG | 5.9 RPG | 6.2 APG | 1.6 SPG | 0.7 BPG | 41.7/27.3/76.5 FG% — 40.3 MIN
Durant — 19.3 PPG | 4.2 RPG | 2.1 APG | 0.8 SPG | 1.1 BPG | 40.0/29.6/86.1 FG% — 33.0 MIN
Victor — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN

Impressive

[Leetonidas]

Trolling doesn't really work when it's Victor Wembanyama. Imagine someone trolling Cleveland fans in 2003/2004 because Melo had a better rookie season:lol

[thiste]

Victor currently has a higher PER than:
- Stephen Curry
- Jayson Tatum
- Damian Lillard
- Jamal Murray
- Jimmy Butler
- De'Aaron Fox
- Tyrese Maxey
- Trae Young
- Karl-Anthony Towns
- Bam Adebayo
- James Harden
- etc...

[CGD]

After 40 games:

LeBron — 20.4 PPG | 5.9 RPG | 6.2 APG | 1.6 SPG | 0.7 BPG | 41.7/27.3/76.5 FG% — 40.3 MIN
Durant — 19.3 PPG | 4.2 RPG | 2.1 APG | 0.8 SPG | 1.1 BPG | 40.0/29.6/86.1 FG% — 33.0 MIN
Victor — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN

Am I misreading, Durant is sub 30% on 3 this season?? I have a hard time believing that.

[thiste]

Am I misreading, Durant is sub 30% on 3 this season?? I have a hard time believing that.

I meant after 40 games into their careers. I'm comparing their rookie years. But you're right, I should have specified.

[CGD]

I meant after 40 games into their careers. I'm comparing their rookie years. But you're right, I should have specified.

Ah, my bad. That makes sense, and is super impressive. Also gives my hope for VW’s 3 pointer!

[Frenchfred]

40 games into their NBA careers:

LeBron — 20.4 PPG | 5.9 RPG | 6.2 APG | 1.6 SPG | 0.7 BPG | 41.7/27.3/76.5 FG% — 40.3 MIN
Durant — 19.3 PPG | 4.2 RPG | 2.1 APG | 0.8 SPG | 1.1 BPG | 40.0/29.6/86.1 FG% — 33.0 MIN
Victor — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN

if he can increase his FG% by 5% and play 34 minutes, that will be really good numbers. Now if he can have reliable 3 point shooters around him to punish the double team, that’s going to be interesting.

[TimmehC]

Vic mentioned working with "Jimmy" (Barron) on his shooting during a post-game interview recently. He seems to have made a big difference with Sochan, so there's hope I think.

[timtonymanu]

Trolling doesn't really work when it's Victor Wembanyama. Imagine someone trolling Cleveland fans in 2003/2004 because Melo had a better rookie season:lol

Also imagine rocket fan trolling when they’ve fallen back into the lottery after predictably coming back down to earth and the best they have to show for it is Alperin fucking Sengun lol. Djohn is an idiot who hyped up Parsons > Leonard back then so all the flexing is hilarious

[timtonymanu]

No one believes you man. You keep trying to troll, but we ALL KNOW you would LOVE to have Victor. Just stop man.

:lol he has to go back downstairs to talk shit in the other thread more so than lakers and mavs fans. Someone is angry they didn’t get Wemby.

[scott]

40 games into their NBA careers:

LeBron — 20.4 PPG | 5.9 RPG | 6.2 APG | 1.6 SPG | 0.7 BPG | 41.7/27.3/76.5 FG% — 40.3 MIN
Durant — 19.3 PPG | 4.2 RPG | 2.1 APG | 0.8 SPG | 1.1 BPG | 40.0/29.6/86.1 FG% — 33.0 MIN
Victor — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN

But there are people who believe Chet is ROTY :lol

[thiste]

if he can increase his FG% by 5% and play 34 minutes, that will be really good numbers. Now if he can have reliable 3 point shooters around him to punish the double team, that’s going to be interesting.

Victor:
Season — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1 APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN
January — 24.4 PPG | 9.7 RPG | 3.3 APG | 0.8 SPG | 3.2 BPG | 51.2/33.9/81.1 FG% — 26.1 MIN

Chet:
Season — 17 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 2.7 APG | 0.6 SPG | 2.5 BPG | 53.8/37.8/77.3 FG% — 30 MIN
January — 15.5 PPG | 6.9 RPG | 3.2 APG | 0.5 SPG | 2.3 BPG | 52.8/33.3/59 FG% — 30.2 MIN

Victor is progressing, Chet is regressing.

[thiste]

double post sorry

[Davidicus]

Pretty sweet vid. My brain still short-circuits every time I see that Charlotte Hornets card.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOg9OCkOHvE&ab_channel=NHL

[CorrectCrusader]

Pretty sweet vid. My brain still short-circuits every time I see that Charlotte Hornets card.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOg9OCkOHvE&ab_channel=NHL

The sounds I made when that Charlotte card flipped, I will take it to my grave

[spurraider21]

Ah, my bad. That makes sense, and is super impressive. Also gives my hope for VW’s 3 pointer!
durant made over 40% of his 3's in college, the positive regression was always expected. vic has a ways to go

[DAF86]

Also imagine rocket fan trolling when they’ve fallen back into the lottery after predictably coming back down to earth and the best they have to show for it is Alperin fucking Sengun lol. Djohn is an idiot who hyped up Parsons > Leonard back then so all the flexing is hilarious

Hahahaha I had forgotten about that horrible take. djohn2oo8 :lmao

[thiste]

Pretty sweet vid. My brain still short-circuits every time I see that Charlotte Hornets card.

Adding the Twitter version of the video as they haven't made the YouTube one available outside of North America I think.

https://twitter.com/UKhoops1_BBN/status/1752026123070816443

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzG3109eKR0

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzG3109eKR0
Nice video on Thanasis & Westbrook

[spurraider21]

Nice video on Thanasis & Westbrook
yeah there wasnt much wemby content there tbh, maybe the first minute or whatever

[Mugen]

Also imagine rocket fan trolling when they’ve fallen back into the lottery after predictably coming back down to earth and the best they have to show for it is Alperin fucking Sengun lol. Djohn is an idiot who hyped up Parsons > Leonard back then so all the flexing is hilarious

Djohn clearly trolling because even he isn't that dumb tbh.

But the Rockets have whiffed on 2/3 top 5 picks so far, possibly 3/3 but I'm still high on Amen.

Sengun is obviously nice but he's still a non-defending 5 which, outside of an undersized PG, is probably the least desirable franchise player archetype tbh (and yes, both the defensive/offensive gap between Jokic and Sengun is still MASSIVE).

They'll probably swap out Green for Whitmore within a season or two I guess but, outside of a massive jump from Jabari/Amen in the next 2-3 years, they've probably got the bleakest future in the division.

[spurraider21]

Djohn clearly trolling because even he isn't that dumb tbh.

But the Rockets have whiffed on 2/3 top 5 picks so far, possibly 3/3 but I'm still high on Amen.

Sengun is obviously nice but he's still a non-defending 5 which, outside of an undersized PG, is probably the least desirable franchise player archetype tbh (and yes, both the defensive/offensive gap between Jokic and Sengun is still MASSIVE).

They'll probably swap out Green for Whitmore within a season or two I guess but, outside of a massive jump from Jabari/Amen in the next 2-3 years, they've probably got the bleakest future in the division.
i still like jabari tbh. he's still 20, bumped up his efficiency quite a bit. he needs to become a more impactful defender tho, especially alongside Sengun

[DAF86]

Djohn clearly trolling because even he isn't that dumb tbh.

But the Rockets have whiffed on 2/3 top 5 picks so far, possibly 3/3 but I'm still high on Amen.

Sengun is obviously nice but he's still a non-defending 5 which, outside of an undersized PG, is probably the least desirable franchise player archetype tbh (and yes, both the defensive/offensive gap between Jokic and Sengun is still MASSIVE).

They'll probably swap out Green for Whitmore within a season or two I guess but, outside of a massive jump from Jabari/Amen in the next 2-3 years, they've probably got the bleakest future in the division.

I don't know about that, tbh. He laughed at the idea of Kawhi being better than Aldridge, back when both played for us and everybody with any kind of idea already realized who the much better player was. He's also a huge homer and Spurs hater that signed up to a Spurs forum just to get constantly shit on. You have to be either dumb or a masochist to enjoy that, tbh. :lol

[timtonymanu]

The spurs since starting Tre have been 5-8. The rockets record for the last 13 games has been 4-9. So..

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/nba/status/1752330832054759503

https://twitter.com/nba/status/1752330856088121350

[The Truth #6]

The spurs since starting Tre have been 5-8. The rockets record for the last 13 games has been 4-9. So..

38% wins since Tre started...damn, better than I thought. Definitely progress.

[thiste]

wrong thread

[pad300]

38% wins since Tre started...damn, better than I thought. Definitely progress.

Will we see the return of point Sochan?

[RC_Drunkford]

that's wild considering that the Spurs merch is ugly as fuck. They really need to change up their design department.

[BatManu20]

1752440723540947372

[The Truth #6]

Will we see the return of point Sochan?

Big minutes for Branham solves all winning right now, sadly.

[spurraider21]

38% wins since Tre started...damn, better than I thought. Definitely progress.
thats a full season pace of about 31 wins which would have been pretty close to the vegas over/under which was about 29 iirc

[BatManu20]

1752466722244776361

[Tyronn Lue]

That block where he just caught the ball above the rim, that should be credited as an interception. I've never seen anything like that.

[spurraider21]

That block where he just caught the ball above the rim, that should be credited as an interception. I've never seen anything like that.
a few good ones here starting around 2:10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JFwhwtAJxk

[exstatic]

After he ShamGodded Rudy, there’s no way he’s not named to the AS team. That shit was NASTY. He also promised JCraw that he knows the double behind the back Crawsover, and will use it in a game.

[spurraider21]

All star reserve spot will be thin

Curry, Booker, Nephew, Edwards, Sabonis, Anthony Davis imo are locks. So then you have one spot. Fox seems likely. Or George. Sengun. Lauri

[exstatic]

All star reserve spot will be thin

Curry, Booker, Nephew, Edwards, Sabonis, Anthony Davis imo are locks. So then you have one spot. Fox seems likely. Or George. Sengun. Lauri

You seem to think this is about merit, and not a show.

[timtonymanu]

Wemby wouldn’t make it in let’s be real. :lol the spurs have the worst record in the West. Spurraiders pick are accurate. The west is just so stacked. lol eastern conference all stars :lol Julius Randle

[exstatic]

Wemby wouldn’t make it in let’s be real. :lol the spurs have the worst record in the West. Spurraiders pick are accurate. The west is just so stacked. lol eastern conference all stars :lol Julius Randle

And yet, we have 20+ NT games. Why is that? Could there be someone the NBA wants on TV, and if so,is there a bigger NBA TV single event than the ASG?

[spurraider21]

You seem to think this is about merit, and not a show.
i mean, it generally is. doesnt mean they always get it right.

and even if we take your word that its just for show, wemby was #8 in voting about frontcourt players in the west, behind Davis, Leonard, Sengun, and George. so even by that criterion, he's not getting in. but i just dont see a world where he gets in over sabonis

[spurraider21]

And yet, we have 20+ NT games. Why is that? Could there be someone the NBA wants on TV, and if so,is there a bigger NBA TV single event than the ASG?
wemby will play in the rising stars game and is taking part in the skills competition

even lebron wasnt an all star as a rookie while averaging 20/6/6 and 1.5 steals pre-ASB

[timtonymanu]

And yet, we have 20+ NT games. Why is that? Could there be someone the NBA wants on TV, and if so,is there a bigger NBA TV single event than the ASG?

I didn’t say no one wants to see Wemby, he just has too much competition. So many other deserving players that are actually on winning teams right now. I don’t hate Wemby but it’s not rocket science, tbh. The tnt crew didn’t even pick him in their reserves because of how stacked the west is.

He would have had a solid chance if he was out east fighting for spots that are going to go to fake stars like Randle.

[scott]

And yet, we have 20+ NT games. Why is that? Could there be someone the NBA wants on TV, and if so,is there a bigger NBA TV single event than the ASG?

We're also starting to get bumped from NT games. It cuts both ways.

I think Wemby has a shot to be an injury replacement, we'll see.

[pookenstein]

As I said in the Wemby Allstar thread, I wouldn't be surprised if he got in as an injury replacement for the simple fact that Silver chooses them and the league certainly would benefit more from Vic being an All Star than from players like Sengun, Sabonis etc..

[Rocalcio]

1752466722244776361

I’m surprised Jokic isn’t in it

[exstatic]

I’m surprised Jokic isn’t in it
Low volume.

[Dejounte]

He’s In A List Full Of Chuckers. That’s Not A Good Sign

[Brazil]

He’s In A List Full Of Chuckers. That’s Not A Good Sign

:lol good sign of what ?

[Pauleta14]

Put yourselves in Adam Silver's shoes

The ASG is a garanteed top audience with or without Vic

If I'm negociating the next TV deal I want the rookie game to have the best possible audience WITH Victor

[exstatic]

Put yourselves in Adam Silver's shoes

The ASG is a garanteed top audience with or without Vic

If I'm negociating the next TV deal I want the rookie game to have the best possible audience WITH Victor

I think just the opposite. The last 4-5 years, AS Saturday night ruled, and the game itself was an afterthought. I mean, they restructured it this year because it was so bad, going away from that stupid player picking.

[baseline bum]

I think just the opposite. The last 4-5 years, AS Saturday night ruled, and the game itself was an afterthought. I mean, they restructured it this year because it was so bad, going away from that stupid player picking.

Don't know exactly when it crossed over to being Pro Bowl levels of unwatchable, but '03 in Atlanta is the last ASG I remember fondly from when it still looked like an actual NBA game.

[Pauleta14]

Tell me who can draw enough attention aside of Wemby for the rookie/soph game?

No TV deal announced yet means present tv audiences are still used as leverage in negociations

the ASG itself can draw a big enough audience as long as Lebron and Steph are here

[RC_Drunkford]

Don't know exactly when it crossed over to being Pro Bowl levels of unwatchable, but '03 in Atlanta is the last ASG I remember fondly from when it still looked like an actual NBA game.

Jordan's last All-Star game was legendary. Has to be expected to be competitive with MJ and Kobe in it. Now that shit is unwatchable. These players are a bunch of softies.

[Pauleta14]

I hated Kobe so much live for the game tying 3 that took away MJ's ASG MVP :lol

What a game

[Tyronn Lue]

Don't know exactly when it crossed over to being Pro Bowl levels of unwatchable, but '03 in Atlanta is the last ASG I remember fondly from when it still looked like an actual NBA game.
:lol I was Googling your comment about Lebron's rookie season and this was at the top:

Even LeBron James' meteoric rookie season in 2003 (20.9 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 5.9 APG) didn't earn him a ticket to the biggest weekend of the season. But the 2021 NBA Draft class could signal the turning of the tide with names like Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green and Evan Mobley.

Do we always overrate draft classes?

[Tyronn Lue]

Jordan's last All-Star game was legendary. Has to be expected to be competitive with MJ and Kobe in it. Now that shit is unwatchable. These players are a bunch of softies.
I get the reminiscing but watching it unfold, I just wanted it over. There were plenty other players out there, the worship service was a bit too much (but expected given the revenue he generated for the league).

[Seventyniner]

Jordan's last All-Star game was legendary. Has to be expected to be competitive with MJ and Kobe in it. Now that shit is unwatchable. These players are a bunch of softies.

The moment someone gets hurt in an ASG it will either cease to exist or become an even more unwatchable version of what we have now. The NBA ASG is much more like the NFL Pro Bowl than the MLB ASG.

The only way I can see to get the players to really compete is pay every player on the winning team an amount of money that they would find significant, probably at least $5M. Even then injuries are a risk. Another possibility is to move the ASG to just before the draft, so that if a player picks up a mild to moderate injury they wouldn't miss any of the regular season.

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/ron_nirenberg/status/1752489446069416208?s=46

These Kids Must Be Thinking He Is A Superhero

I Hope There Is Nothing That Will Happen In Wemby’s Career That Will Tarnish His So-Far Clean Image. A Lot Of Kids Will Be Looking Up To Him

[Seventyniner]

I Hope There Is Nothing That Will Happen In Wemby’s Career That Will Tarnish His So-Far Clean Image. A Lot Of Kids Will Be Looking Up To Him

Almost everyone on earth looks up to him. At least in person.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DanWeissPBP/status/1752711835655004202

https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1752897716189876333

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1752914210940411992

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFOYZVVXgAAZh4e?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFOYZVUXMAADECS?format=jpg&name=large

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcRjJ1PDYJs

[spurraider21]

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[TD 21]

Hopefully the line about this probably being the best month for a rookie in 25 years spreads like wildfire and the Spurs hating, hipster nerd stat geek faction of the media catches wind of it.

Speaking of which, in what's regarded as one of if not the best publicly available metrics by that community and their counterparts within' the league, Wembanyama, who was significantly behind Holmgren early while being handicapped with no PG and a second C, has come all the way back and passed him already.

Estimated Plus-Minus (EPM) (dunksandthrees.com) (https://dunksandthrees.com/epm)

[spurraider21]

i feel like i hadnt heard about EPM until this season. is it new? is there a reason its considered the best?

im not doubting it, im just curious. before this year i would look at RPM and BPM mostly

[MannyIsGod]

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This is is where the Chet ROY narrative will go to die. He's had a fairly big fall off for Jan. Wemby should be the front runner from here on out. IDGAF how good the Thunder are.

[MannyIsGod]

Also you can forget about Wemby for the ASG. The west has far too many good players in it and its just not going to happen this year.

[CorrectCrusader]

Hopefully the line about this probably being the best month for a rookie in 25 years spreads like wildfire and the Spurs hating, hipster nerd stat geek faction of the media catches wind of it.

Speaking of which, in what's regarded as one of if not the best publicly available metrics by that community and their counterparts within' the league, Wembanyama, who was significantly behind Holmgren early while being handicapped with no PG and a second C, has come all the way back and passed him already.

Estimated Plus-Minus (EPM) (dunksandthrees.com) (https://dunksandthrees.com/epm)\

24th in the league. Allstar.

[DAF86]

i feel like i hadnt heard about EPM until this season. is it new? is there a reason its considered the best?

im not doubting it, im just curious. before this year i would look at RPM and BPM mostly

Apparently it is +/- but taking into account the level of your teammates and the oposition you face. How the F they meassure that? I don't know.

[spurraider21]

Apparently it is +/- but taking into account the level of your teammates and the oposition you face. How the F they meassure that? I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENVB6tjq_M

[scott]

Wow this dunksandthrees site is awesome.

Wemby 5th in Est Def +/- in the entire league and definitely the top "star"

Also 10th in DR% and #3 in BL%.

Noteworthy: Charles Bassey is #5 in the league in DR% and also #5 at BL%. Even though Chinook hates him, I still think Bassey is the ideal backup C if he could stay healthy and develop his offense game

[spurraider21]

the first spur to win rookie of the month since Beno Udrih in 2004 :lol

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/StatMamba/status/1753093259424149690

[timtonymanu]

This is is where the Chet ROY narrative will go to die. He's had a fairly big fall off for Jan. Wemby should be the front runner from here on out. IDGAF how good the Thunder are.

It's always been such a retarded narrative. Imagine if Wemby had someone as good as SGA playing next to him. That alone should cancel Chet's chances.

[Thomas82]

Also you can forget about Wemby for the ASG. The west has far too many good players in it and its just not going to happen this year.

The crazy part is that there are 6 players in the NBA that are averaging at least 20 points and 10 rebounds this season, and 5 of them made the All-Star team. Wemby is the 6th one.

[heyheymymy]

https://i.redd.it/uzrh57cta3gc1.jpeg

[Spursfanfromafar]

Wow this dunksandthrees site is awesome.

Wemby 5th in Est Def +/- in the entire league and definitely the top "star"

Also 10th in DR% and #3 in BL%.

Noteworthy: Charles Bassey is #5 in the league in DR% and also #5 at BL%. Even though Chinook hates him, I still think Bassey is the ideal backup C if he could stay healthy and develop his offense game

I have been checking the stats at this site for months now as this is the only advanced stats near realtime tracker left now after 538's raptor went bust.

Wemby has significantly marched up the EPM stats table and is now ranked 24th overall in the league according to dunksandthrees and he has easily leapfrogged Sengun and Chet. If he keeps this up...he might be top 10 by the end of the year. Even more important that the Spurs accelerate their timeline to match Wemby's pace of development. Wemby needs more competent teammates to match his growth to help him win more now.

[thiste]

Kids love him, he loves the kids.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIo7OJOcQPA

[cd98]

Kids love him, he loves the kids.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIo7OJOcQPA

It's too bad Josh Giddy will never be able to do a video like this.

[The Truth #6]

Look at the mayor trying to get in on that photo op.

[lefty]

https://i.redd.it/uzrh57cta3gc1.jpeg

Wemby carrying his scrub teammates tbh

[spurraider21]

is that kevin tran?

[CorrectCrusader]

https://i.redd.it/uzrh57cta3gc1.jpeg

Adorable.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/1753503283694497818

[lefty]

is that kevin tran?
Jeremy Lin to SA confirmed

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1753521420896796676

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1753589838517870698

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BallySportsSA/status/1753601314926301556

[CGD]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1753589838517870698

I actually want to see the skyhook. That will be sick.

[thiste]

Very nice words from Zion @2:32


https://youtu.be/cw8VZLQHQyQ?t=152

He says they were talking about him in the locker room. I bet a lot of teams have done that after facing Victor.

They're all aware of what's coming.

[Spurs Homer]

I am hoping Timmy takes victor all summer and puts him thru the ultimate survivor x1,000,000,000,000


training regimen...

[BatManu20]

Wemby struggling to adjust to Central Texas allergens tbh.

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[scott]

Cedar gonna drive Wemby to LA before Pop does

[spurraider21]

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[TrainOfThought5]

Wemby struggling to adjust to Central Texas allergens tbh.

1754010252012343762

time to burn down every Tree in SA, to be honest.

[lefty]

Wemby is also a great passer tbh, dude is an alien :lol

[Ocotillo]

They may want to get him to an allergist, can't they give a shot for that once they test and determine if it really is cedar pollen he is fighting? It's going to be around every December-Early February.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/JezData/status/1754329191271542978

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/RealPjHoops/status/1754993189780369471

Team Pau seems pretty well balanced with a little bit of everything and hustlers as well, only one sophomore though (Jabari) and only one true Center with Vic.

The size of team Jalen with Kessler/Lively/Holmgren might be a problem.

Video of the draft:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJqK6PWEzpE

Pau picked first and he picked Victor OF COURSE :lol

[Seventyniner]

Paul Gasol is probably an autocorrect but still annoying.