The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[polandprzem]

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[rjv]

what i didn't see was the ball boy's (who was sweeping) reaction. that was classic.

[Pauleta14]

I think the blue-print was kinda obvious from the get go. At least since they saw him not standing his ground and float behind 3pt lane.

To me it was as well and I was surprised not so see it more often last season, it was mostly Houston and Dallas. This season, any serious team (not Utah) has done it.

Even Okc who already dble and triple teammed last season went a bit further adding physicality and "testing" the limits of the reffs (he gets grabbed without calls quite often tbf)

So obviously Wemby has his part of work to do but not only his teammates stopped facilitating his game as they did post ASG, they put him in an even more difficult situation bc he's not used as a hub to play off of as before, which kept him involved, now he just sets screens up and just wanders around if he's not served or shoot stupid 30 footers

You can't just point at one "culprit", all the parties are failing, coaching included

[Pauleta14]

well if that’s the case, wait til he makes the playoffs and teams put a real game plan together. He gon ask for sub 3 minutes into the first quarter :lol

One more reason to have a better roster and a higher density of high IQ and passing abilities

Wemby would be amazing in the 14' team, but we can't wait 5 years to get there, it'll destroy him mentaly before or reduce him to his defensive impact

We all agreed last season, fans and medias, but it's as if all clicked on "reset"

[RC_Drunkford]

15:30 mark they bring up some nice stats considering pace as well as other points people here brought up. This is also a huge reason why Wemby is not getting anything easy. The CP3 effect is that we're now playing a lot slower.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4LxoZJuQs

[Leetonidas]

Yeah, CP3's steadying hand is nice, but he is really bogging the offense down with his slow playstyle and our team sucks ass in a half court offense so slowing it down does nothing but help the defense

[Pauleta14]

Rarely everybody has been that wrong on a new player's arrival tbh

Here's the video on the topic only


https://youtu.be/wVDWLF26GAY?si=R9VGO3ZsalMdV6in

[scott]

Yeah, CP3's steadying hand is nice, but he is really bogging the offense down with his slow playstyle and our team sucks ass in a half court offense so slowing it down does nothing but help the defense

Yeah, I brought this up after the Wolves game. Teams are really applying a lot of 3/4 press against us and CP3s response is to use 6-8 seconds to get the ball across mid-court, which slows us from getting into our offense. It's better than a turnover, but it really stymies our pace.

[spurraider21]

his best weapon on offense as a scorer has also been the pull-up 3. he struggles to create off the dribble. just doesnt have the juice on a regular basis.

more than half of Paul's FGA have been 3 pointers. at least he's making them at a good clip

[Obstructed_View]

He didn't add any bulk at all... :lol

(he already talked about it, he gains max 1%-5%/year)
So the dozens of people who talked about it, the articles with before and after photos, those were all imaginary?

[Pauleta14]

So the dozens of people who talked about it, the articles with before and after photos, those were all imaginary?

I guess.

Those are his words, he said it to the french journalists in pre season

[tim_duncan_fan]

Seriously, he added a lot of bulk over the summer.

lol it was like 5 pounds

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2qeVtfOTs

Wemby is catching the ball too far out...

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL3kvl9MOzo

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3OPgjbtmsQ

[polandprzem]

I guess.

Those are his words, he said it to the french journalists in pre season

tbh he has no idea. He denied to go from 210 to 235 but he cant produce numbers. 1% is as much as taking shit in the morning so I'd congratulate Victor on those numbers.

[polandprzem]

Few things to point out

Conditioning- as bad as it is it will get better. To what extend idk but it has to be enough to produce at 35min/g - so it's a bit worry but not much
Strength - not gonna be stronger during season so we will see the same story all season long- far away from the basket
3pt attempts - He jacks them up so he can get used to the range in the game. His attempts will probably drop. But idk if he thinks he really will become elite there? - So it's gonna get better there as well.
He is a poor rebounder STILL- I thought he can knock on the top5 door this season- but it looks like it's gonna be hard to achieve. At least he gets those easy rebs.
His defense is okay when it comes to being in place. But his blocking shots ability is historically good- Bol, Eaton, Olajuwon, Drob level! Crazy.

Offensive game is not what you can expect but when Vessell will be back along with Sochan I wonder what will change.


All in all - there is no chance his game will stay that way. He will get better as the season progress. To what extend? Last year he improved massively from 1st to 2nd part of the season.

[heyheymymy]

https://x.com/spursreporter/status/1854887722827071590?s

[ambchang]

https://x.com/spursreporter/status/1854887722827071590?s

The spurs FO may be bad at a lot of things, but they are incredible salesmen.

[Pauleta14]

tbh he has no idea. He denied to go from 210 to 235 but he cant produce numbers. 1% is as much as taking shit in the morning so I'd congratulate Victor on those numbers.

:lol

He doesn't look bigger than last season to me.. At all

I've seen a few before/after pictures supposed to show something, but it's more the lights and the positioning that are differents.

The kid is stubborn and probably follows blindly someone's opinion (the guy that followed him in SA?) who's strategy he trusts.

There are 2 possible issues, either it works and it'll take some time at this rhythm (1%-5%/year) or he's going to waste a lot of time before finally using more traditional strategies to stengthen his body.

We better be patient basically...

[Sugus]

https://x.com/spursreporter/status/1854887722827071590?s

Great to hear.

It's funny to see all the backlash, after years of Spursfans saying "The FO needs to pick a lane and stick to it!!", now they're sticking to a plan and everyone's bitching about it.

You hear it all the time, "nothing beats game reps", "growing pains are necessary", "work on your game with dedication", and we're seeing it happen and the ugly immediate output it can generate.

But I want Victor to have been practicing in-game 3's for 8 years by the time he's 28 and in his prime. That's all that matters. The inside game will come in some Duncan-filled offseason, but becoming a great 3pt shooting is league-warping for Wemby.

Here's his Denver barrage highlights again, in case anyone's forgotten what Wemby's game is actually like, instead of people's imaginations;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_9cg3gxZ4Y

He starts making those pull-up 3's, and grows into an inside game, and it's just over for the NBA.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1855349581359292725

[Pauleta14]

Mitch sucks, he ususally says nothing using plenty of technical words

[itzsoweezee]

Vic playing like his old self tonight, finally

[skin27]

Vic playing like his old self tonight, finally

im not sold on it yet. He needs to play that every game.

[Mnky]

Paul is great for wemby. Slowing down makes wemby actually have to learn and develop. They still run. Paul gets the ball upcountry with his passes much better than the young guys. He's teaching them to reset and think. You can do that and still be fast. Their turnovers were horrid last year because of always trying to run fast without thinking. You still see, like in today's game, where there isn't processing at all, just running around. Paul's helping develop that part. Definitey a good thing.

[Ice009]

He's 20. Is there a chance he'll fill out and get noticeably stronger?

He said he's only aiming for 1-5% increase in body weight each season. If it's 1%, then that isn't going to help him AT ALL. IMO, I think he needs to be looking at closer to 5% each summer as more of a minimum than a maximum.

[TheBallsbreakers]

im not sold on it yet. He needs to play that every game.
duh.

[polandprzem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3OPgjbtmsQ

If visuals between now and then are not there for some ppl idk what to say :)

[polandprzem]

:lol

He doesn't look bigger than last season to me.. At all

I've seen a few before/after pictures supposed to show something, but it's more the lights and the positioning that are differents.

The kid is stubborn and probably follows blindly someone's opinion (the guy that followed him in SA?) who's strategy he trusts.

There are 2 possible issues, either it works and it'll take some time at this rhythm (1%-5%/year) or he's going to waste a lot of time before finally using more traditional strategies to stengthen his body.

We better be patient basically...

It still takes time for a bball player. :D I mean I had that convo last year and this year about his development. So idk what is traditional what is not by your standards. I do not think it's a waste of time to get stronger.

[polandprzem]

The spurs FO may be bad at a lot of things, but they are incredible salesmen.

On point

[Splits]

Last year it was said, "Every game Wemby does something we've never seen before"

Has it happened once through the first 10 games? Maybe the 5x5?

[rankingtear]

Last year it was said, "Every game Wemby does something we've never seen before"

Has it happened once through the first 10 games? Maybe the 5x5?

Wembanyama also became the second player in league history with six 3s and seven blocks in a game, joining Brook Lopez (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3448/brook-lopez), who did it in 2017. Wembanyama now has two of the three instances in NBA history of a player scoring at least 20 points with 15 rebounds, 5 blocks and 5 3-pointers, with Paul Millsap in 2016 providing the other.

[polandprzem]

He is climbing a bit

#68 in minutes - top30would be nice
#150 in 3pt% - top80 would be nice
# 111 FG% - top50 to aim imo
#16 in rebs - top10 is a must
#47 in points - top 15 would be great
# 110 in assists - idk if he can do better then top50

His FT% are amazing at 13spot but he is a turnover machine at number 8

[RC_Drunkford]

pretty good breakdown of offensive posessions and which sets to run/avoid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCx_gqVnVY

[cutewizard]

Fascinating effort today

[CGD]

^ this breakdown is worth the watch. Thought it was helpful to see

[Pauleta14]

It still takes time for a bball player. :D I mean I had that convo last year and this year about his development. So idk what is traditional what is not by your standards. I do not think it's a waste of time to get stronger.

Tbf more than the gym work, having to eat A LOT more daily must be the biggest challenge for a 7'5 and 20yo burning crazy amount of calories per hour...

[polandprzem]

Tbf more than the gym work, having to eat A LOT more daily must be the biggest challenge for a 7'5 and 20yo burning crazy amount of calories per hour...
I do not think so. I might assume Shaq also was burning ton of calories :D Not much shorter dude iirc

:tu

[Pauleta14]

I do not think so. I might assume Shaq also was burning ton of calories :D Not much shorter dude iirc

:tu

Totally different body type and I assume metabolism. Shaq has a much thicker bone structure to be able to "carry" the weight.

We're all different, I eat a crazy amount of food, binge junk food all the time and burn everything with one night sleep

Wemby is the skinny type, "ectomorph", he'll struggle is whole life to gain weight

[Seventyniner]

pretty good breakdown of offensive posessions and which sets to run/avoid

I don't know why his "Mamu there goes that man" line makes me crack up so much, but it does.

[scott]

pretty good breakdown of offensive posessions and which sets to run/avoid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCx_gqVnVY

Great video - thanks for sharing

[LeBowen]

Saw this on reddit:


Breakdown
In 10 games so far Wemby has received the ball in the low-post or high-post area, in isolation, 68 times.
Here's what happened next:


17 times he got doubled right away. Two defenders immediately trapped him. Out of those 17 times:
3 times he turned it over (got stripped).
14 times he passed to the open man.

20 times he wasn't doubled, but 1 or 2 defenders crowded the paint to help on a potential Wemby drive, leaving their men wide open (this is the so-called "gravity" effect). In a situation like this, the paint is shut down.
Out of those 20 times:
1 time he got fouled.
2 times he turned it over (got stripped).
5 times he shot a fade-away (went 1/5).
12 times he passed to the open man.

31 times he was neither doubled, nor saw any help defense in the paint. So he was able to play back to the basket 1v1 and the paint was wide open.
Out of those 31 times:
2 times he turned it over (got stripped).
3 times he decided to pass the ball back out.
9 times he took a fade-away and went 4/9.
17 times he either scored inside or got fouled

[scott]

Developing his fade away is going to be way more critical than developing his pull up logo 3.

[Tyronn Lue]

Developing his fade away is going to be way more critical than developing his pull up logo 3.
I don't know why he needs to fade away. No one can block his turn around.

[scott]

I don't know why he needs to fade away. No one can block his turn around.

I'm guessing those all get classified as fade-aways?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Totally different body type and I assume metabolism. Shaq has a much thicker bone structure to be able to "carry" the weight.

We're all different, I eat a crazy amount of food, binge junk food all the time and burn everything with one night sleep

Wemby is the skinny type, "ectomorph", he'll struggle is whole life to gain weight

I'm jealous!

[Pauleta14]

I'm jealous!

Not as much as my woman, she's regularly pissed watching me and LITTERALY throw some stuff away like my Kinder Bueno and M&Ms reserve :lol

My parents thought i had a tapeworm when I was a child

Point is let's all stop expecting Wemby to change, he'll be as skinny his whole career, just better "muscle stamina" (not sure how you call it ^^)

[scott]

1856084221233692777

Austin Rivers has thoughts

[Rosewood]

pretty good breakdown of offensive posessions and which sets to run/avoid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCx_gqVnVY It’s been said but great video. Very well informed.

[polandprzem]

Totally different body type and I assume metabolism. Shaq has a much thicker bone structure to be able to "carry" the weight.

We're all different, I eat a crazy amount of food, binge junk food all the time and burn everything with one night sleep

Wemby is the skinny type, "ectomorph", he'll struggle is whole life to gain weight

Well good to know you have an idea about how bigger bones Shaq had. And you know if Wemby got problems gaining weight.

Officially 210->235 lbs.

:tu

[polandprzem]

Not as much as my woman, she's regularly pissed watching me and LITTERALY throw some stuff away like my Kinder Bueno and M&Ms reserve :lol

My parents thought i had a tapeworm when I was a child

Point is let's all stop expecting Wemby to change, he'll be as skinny his whole career, just better "muscle stamina" (not sure how you call it ^^)

You meant muscle endurance.


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It's not if I expect him to change. But there are qualities that helps athletes. I am pointing out weaknesses and what he can do about it and what he can. And what is possible.

[Pauleta14]

Well good to know you have an idea about how bigger bones Shaq had. And you know if Wemby got problems gaining weight.

Officially 210->235 lbs.

:tu

Ectomorph/Wemby = long, lean body type, narrower waist/hips, high metabolism & difficulties to gain weight.

Endomorph/Shaq = Rounded, stocky body type with wide hips and midsection, lots of body fat and muscle. Slower metabolism, tend to store fat in hips and thighs. Gain weight easily and have a hard time losing it.

Just took the definitions of both.

[Pauleta14]

You meant muscle endurance.


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It's not if I expect him to change. But there are qualities that helps athletes. I am pointing out weaknesses and what he can do about it and what he can. And what is possible.

yep. thx

[CorrectCrusader]

My favorite wemby glazer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ot6YhmXIro

[Seventyniner]

My favorite wemby glazer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ot6YhmXIro

Fun to watch but the "seven steps from the three point line" annoys me. It's like 5 feet. Is it some sort of inside joke?

Seven steps for Wemby is from the baseline to halfcourt.

[polandprzem]

Ectomorph/Wemby = long, lean body type, narrower waist/hips, high metabolism & difficulties to gain weight.

Endomorph/Shaq = Rounded, stocky body type with wide hips and midsection, lots of body fat and muscle. Slower metabolism, tend to store fat in hips and thighs. Gain weight easily and have a hard time losing it.

Just took the definitions of both.

Yea you was talking about him having troubles gaining weight or eat enough. I do not see that as a problem. He gained weight- no issues.

It's not like you want him to get as much as Shaq you know.

[exstatic]

My favorite wemby glazer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ot6YhmXIro

This guy literally hates everyone and every coach and every team in the NBA…except Victor.

[CorrectCrusader]

This guy literally hates everyone and every coach and every team in the NBA…except Victor.

Literally me fr

[Spurs Homer]

This guy literally hates everyone and every coach and every team in the NBA…except Victor.


you say that like...like its a bad thing!

[Pauleta14]

Yea you was talking about him having troubles gaining weight or eat enough. I do not see that as a problem. He gained weight- no issues.

It's not like you want him to get as much as Shaq you know.

It is a problem, trust me, not the worst to can have but one that requires a lot of work compared to endomorphs who have the opposite issue.

Anyway, he'll never be a post up player and will keep a game based on his mobility, shooting and playmaking. I just wonder what it'll be in the POs with less spacing.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBA2K/status/1856381526549618762

[polandprzem]

It is a problem, trust me, not the worst to can have but one that requires a lot of work compared to endomorphs who have the opposite issue.

Anyway, he'll never be a post up player and will keep a game based on his mobility, shooting and playmaking. I just wonder what it'll be in the POs with less spacing.

Yea but it has nothing to do with that. He can base his game on anything but standing your ground, taking positions and fighting for rebounds is what makes you a player. Without the qualities of strength power or speed to a certain degree he is not gonna be effective as much. He lacks in those areas and he can improve.

To me it is not an issue at all whatever body type he is.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1XLbjPu0A

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ot6YhmXIro

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRxge1uSQso

[Raven]

Totally different body type and I assume metabolism. Shaq has a much thicker bone structure to be able to "carry" the weight.

We're all different, I eat a crazy amount of food, binge junk food all the time and burn everything with one night sleep

Wemby is the skinny type, "ectomorph", he'll struggle is whole life to gain weight

ah yes, the good old bone thickness argument

[Pauleta14]

Yea but it has nothing to do with that. He can base his game on anything but standing your ground, taking positions and fighting for rebounds is what makes you a player. Without the qualities of strength power or speed to a certain degree he is not gonna be effective as much. He lacks in those areas and he can improve.

To me it is not an issue at all whatever body type he is.

I think we mostly agree here mate. I've seen him trying, more than he used, to set himself up much earlier for offensive rebounds in the last game for ex, he of course will get better and stronger inside.

My point was just that I don't imagine him having go to moves on the post, his tiny butt will always be easier to move than most bigs

We'll see :)

[Pauleta14]

ah yes, the good old bone thickness argument

Just read my following answer, I didn't invent the definitions

[Fizziksman]

He just needs an actual offseason to develop a go to move, not a playing with a defunct French team or playing in the Olympics offseason.

[Pauleta14]

He just needs an actual offseason to develop a go to move, not a playing with a defunct French team or playing in the Olympics offseason.

He won't have an off season for a while if he even gets any...

2025 - euro basket 27/8 to 14/9
2026 - world cup 27/8 to 12/9

He even will have potentially less time than last summer to rest before training camp!

Only possibility is if Spurs don't make the POs or if he takes a NT break but he doesn't seem to want to

[polandprzem]

He won't have an off season for a while if he even gets any...

2025 - euro basket 27/8 to 14/9
2026 - world cup 27/8 to 12/9

He even will have potentially less time than last summer to rest before training camp!

Only possibility is if Spurs don't make the POs or if he takes a NT break but he doesn't seem to want to

He should skip those

[dn0774]

He won't have an off season for a while if he even gets any...

2025 - euro basket 27/8 to 14/9
2026 - world cup 27/8 to 12/9

He even will have potentially less time than last summer to rest before training camp!

Only possibility is if Spurs don't make the POs or if he takes a NT break but he doesn't seem to want to

Wouldn't surprise me if he chose an "Olympics only" cadence with regards to his French team participation, perhaps World Cup as well. Yao Ming really burnt the candle at both ends due to Chinese team requirements, I would expect Victor and his team to be keenly aware of that case and proceed with caution in terms of his off season activity. Either way, I expect the Spurs will be "supportive" with Victor's choices but will absolutely reduce the load he incurs in Spurs related work to balance out his summer activities (ie sitting pre-season games, reduced minutes, etc).

[Pauleta14]

Wouldn't surprise me if he chose an "Olympics only" cadence with regards to his French team participation, perhaps World Cup as well. Yao Ming really burnt the candle at both ends due to Chinese team requirements, I would expect Victor and his team to be keenly aware of that case and proceed with caution in terms of his off season activity. Either way, I expect the Spurs will be "supportive" with Victor's choices but will absolutely reduce the load he incurs in Spurs related work to balance out his summer activities (ie sitting pre-season games, reduced minutes, etc).

I doubt it.

Wemby said multiple times that playing for the NT is much more important than for the Spurs (respectfully)

+ Trust me the french medias and fans will get on him if he asks for a summer break, TP only took 1 or 2 summers off (some bc of injury + 1 before 09' bc he needed to bulk up) and got heavily criticised

[dn0774]

I doubt it.

Wemby said multiple times that playing for the NT is much more important than for the Spurs (respectfully)

+ Trust me the french medias and fans will get on him if he asks for a summer break, TP only took 1 or 2 summers off (some bc of injury + 1 before 09' bc he needed to bulk up) and got heavily criticised

He did skip the 2023 World Cup to focus on NBA preparations, so there is some precedent. Now if Olympic qualification is riding on a tourny outcome then I could see him playing, but we'll see about the less important tournaments.

[Pauleta14]

He did skip the 2023 World Cup to focus on NBA preparations, so there is some precedent. Now if Olympic qualification is riding on a tourny outcome then I could see him playing, but we'll see about the less important tournaments.

We'll see, I just know my people ^^

That being said, Wemby has a better PR and bigger team around him so maybe. Let's hope for him and the Spurs

[Pauleta14]

https://youtu.be/OpV6vgvLVTc?si=uTaKDovgQfwsUp5B

[cutewizard]

Today

The career high 50 point game!!!!!

So much for scouts and their stupid comments about offense

[cutewizard]

Congratulations Wemby!!!!!!!!!!

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaiXaacL4Ak

[KingKev]

Today

The career high 50 point game!!!!!

So much for scouts and their stupid comments about offense

OMG please post a youtube video of Wemby versus my glorious pookie Jordan Poole going for 42!!!!

[tim_duncan_fan]

I mean, hey....the threes make sense if he is going to hit a good number of them

[cutewizard]

OMG please post a youtube video of Wemby versus my glorious pookie Jordan Poole going for 42!!!!

..........

Hahahaha

[CGD]

In 3 games, he’s managed to bump his 3pt% from 22% to 31%.

It’s frankly painful to my eye, but you can understand it if it also opens up the pumpfake and drive possibilities. We saw some of that in the last two games.

[TheBallsbreakers]

In 3 games, he’s managed to bump his 3pt% from 22% to 31%.

It’s frankly painful to my eye, but you can understand it if it also opens up the pumpfake and drive possibilities. We saw some of that in the last two games.
Nothing painful about it.

It was sublime.

[skin27]

At what age/ season timmy scored his first 50pts game?

[DAF86]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcUFXbWW8AA7H7A?format=jpg&name=small

[Thomas82]

At what age/ season timmy scored his first 50pts game?

At 25, and it was in late December 2001. He had 53 against the Mavericks. In fact, it was his only 50-point game.

[TDomination]

At what age/ season timmy scored his first 50pts game?

His one and only was 01-02 season against the mavs.
he had 53pts.

it was his 5th season and he was 25 years old.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200112260SAS.html

[Thomas82]

His first was 01-02 season against the mavs.
he had 53pts.

it was his 5th season and he was 25 years old.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200112260SAS.html

And I hate that we wasted that effort from him by losing to Steve Nash and the Mavericks in overtime.

[Raven]

solid player

[skin27]

At 25, and it was in late December 2001. He had 53 against the Mavericks. In fact, it was his only 50-point game.

oh! I know about his career high was 53 but i didnt know that it was his only 50pts game. I thought he had multiple 50pts game

[skin27]

His first was 01-02 season against the mavs.
he had 53pts.

it was his 5th season and he was 25 years old.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200112260SAS.html

He had multiple 50pt game?

[CGD]

Nothing painful about it.

It was sublime.

It’s pretty brutal watching the chucking. I’ll happily take it though if it is opens up other aspects of his game.

[cutewizard]

Wemby has a great learning curve index

[TheBallsbreakers]

It’s pretty brutal watching the chucking. I’ll happily take it though if it is opens up other aspects of his game.
It's not brutal and it's not "chucking" when you're hitting 50% from threeeee on such high volume.

[Thomas82]

oh! I know about his career high was 53 but i didnt know that it was his only 50pts game. I thought he had multiple 50pts game

Yeah, that was his first and only one. Besides that, the closest he got to 50 was the 47 he had against the Magic on 12/5/03, and 46 against the Jazz on 1/10/00.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Tbh in TD’s time teams were barely scoring 90 per game so 50 was much more impressive and hard to come by, especially without the volume 3 point shooting.

[skin27]

Hooe he average atleast 28ppg this season

[Thomas82]

Hooe he average atleast 28ppg this season

Well, after the 50-piece, his average is up to 22.3 ppg.

[Gibbz]

A lot of clowns on this board eating crow tonight.

[quentin_compson]

It's not brutal and it's not "chucking" when you're hitting 50% from threeeee on such high volume.

Making or not making shots has not much to do with whether it's chucking or not.

What a thrilling game to witness from Wemby!

[spursgu]

A lot of clowns on this board eating crow tonight.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuQQCNRvAwA

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXkMYFkEBfA

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XO9SX5aBPY

[polandprzem]

He is climbing a bit

#68 in minutes - top30would be nice
#150 in 3pt% - top80 would be nice
# 111 FG% - top50 to aim imo
#16 in rebs - top10 is a must
#47 in points - top 15 would be great
# 110 in assists - idk if he can do better then top50

His FT% are amazing at 13spot but he is a turnover machine at number 8


Minutes #68
3pt % #116
FG% #70
Rebounds #15
Points #28
Assists # 97


he dropped in ft% at 28

[polandprzem]

Looks like Wemby got a message from CAT that they have enough bricks for the next 10 years so he stopped making them

[Davidicus]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCWyt_wphwI/?igsh=OTJ2d3gyb2t6eGk2

eyes are watery - cedar fever must be early this year

[exstatic]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCWyt_wphwI/?igsh=OTJ2d3gyb2t6eGk2

eyes are watery - cedar fever must be early this year

I’ll attest to that. Definitely something in the air. I got my fall allergy break, but had to bust out the irrigator, distilled water, and salt/baking soda packets yesterday.

[Joseph Kony]

His one and only was 01-02 season against the mavs.
he had 53pts.

it was his 5th season and he was 25 years old.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200112260SAS.html
been awhile but didnt Dirk get a tooth knocked out during the game?

[daslicer]

been awhile but didnt Dirk get a tooth knocked out during the game?

That was game 4 of the second round in '01 vs the Spurs.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQt5xg5uuF4

[Mugen]

That ad would slap way harder if the City jerseys weren't absolute ass :lol

[exstatic]

That ad would slap way harder if the City jerseys weren't absolute ass :lol

I hated last year’s and these are worse.

[CorrectCrusader]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQt5xg5uuF4

I'm sorry, but the whole epic somber atmosphere cutting to the fucking toothpaste jersey has my laughing my ass off

[Seventyniner]

I'm sorry, but the whole epic somber atmosphere cutting to the fucking toothpaste jersey has my laughing my ass off

Same here. I was expecting something cool looking in white/black/silver and the organization totally shit the bed.

[Pauleta14]

That ad would slap way harder if the City jerseys weren't absolute ass :lol

They'll be cool in 10-15 years tho

[MannyIsGod]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1857229207199191090

The flipped percentages people spoke about last year with Victor being better on pull up 3s off the dribble is not true so far this year and I wouldn't expect it to be. A marked change over the past 3 games are the quality of 3s Wemby is taking and I think that's a positive change even if I dont' expect him to shoot 50% from 3 for the year.

[MannyIsGod]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQt5xg5uuF4

lol nah that jersey ain't mine. I hated last years and man this is just the reup.

[LeBowen]

lol nah that jersey ain't mine. I hated last years and man this is just the reup.

Idk what are people at Nike thinking, why go with near-identical design two years in a row? Then just keep the last year's city edition and be done with it.

https://i.imgur.com/e5dQOOn.png
Like what's the point of so few changes?
New one is also white, it's just that the image has blue tint.
Should've brought back teal fiesta or something.

And for some reason we have two black uniforms and no silver ones.
SATX uniform should've been silver.

[RC_Drunkford]

the Spurs' design department sucks as much as our FO

[couchman]

Wemby to miss a 3rd game
https://x.com/tom_orsborn/status/1859381521695523055https://x.com/tom_orsborn/status/1859381521695523055

[Pauleta14]

Probably no ASG for him this season at this rhythm

[Mnky]

Idk what are people at Nike thinking, why go with near-identical design two years in a row? Then just keep the last year's city edition and be done with it.

https://i.imgur.com/e5dQOOn.png
Like what's the point of so few changes?
New one is also white, it's just that the image has blue tint.
Should've brought back teal fiesta or something.

And for some reason we have two black uniforms and no silver ones.
SATX uniform should've been silver.


The Robin Blue Jerseys are way better this year than last years. That color palette is clean, looks way better in person.

[Ocotillo]

It's surprising that they don't have a sponsor patch on their jerseys this season, leaving money on the table. (Now's your chance Fred's Fish Fry)

[CorrectCrusader]

I know it's popular to hate on Wembys performances against Houston this season but maybe we should consider the fact that they're an extremely elite defensive team?

https://i.imgur.com/krnYhT1.jpeg

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby is currently 6th in Estimated plus/minus (https://dunksandthrees.com/stats/player)

[Seventyniner]

This is Wemby's origin story.

[scott]

I know it's popular to hate on Wembys performances against Houston this season but maybe we should consider the fact that they're an extremely elite defensive team?

https://i.imgur.com/krnYhT1.jpeg

Damn, it feels good to simply be smack dab in the middle here instead of bottom left.

[RC_Drunkford]

how are the Rockets that good defensively with Sengun playing center? I mean Udoka has always been a mastermind when it comes to defense, but for them to be the best defensive team in the league is quite surprising.

[LeBowen]

how are the Rockets that good defensively with Sengun playing center? I mean Udoka has always been a mastermind when it comes to defense, but for them to be the best defensive team in the league is quite surprising.

Sengun is playing only 29mpg and they have long wings.
OKC and Warriors scored 127 and 126 on them, Warriors game isn't included in that graph.
Impressive win against the Knicks, but tiher other opponents during that 10 game stretch were Spurs, Pistons, Wizards, Clippers x2, Bulls, Bucks with G-league supporting cast and Pacers which scored 113 on them even with Haliburton stinking it up.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQLzeUVZ6Cc

[DAF86]

I know it's popular to hate on Wembys performances against Houston this season but maybe we should consider the fact that they're an extremely elite defensive team?

https://i.imgur.com/krnYhT1.jpeg

We're the literal definition of mid. :lol

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7KIvfvqHo

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXDf9pTx3I8

[K...]

I know it's popular to hate on Wembys performances against Houston this season but maybe we should consider the fact that they're an extremely elite defensive team?

https://i.imgur.com/krnYhT1.jpeg

who made this chart , its shit! no labeled axises, you have non linear progression, two number 2 defenses.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

I'm not big on data from small sample sizes. Houston's last 10 games included Portland 2x, Wash, Detroit, and Chicago. They should be putting up elite defensive numbers against those guys.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/AirlessJordan/status/1861613613246751199

[CGD]

https://x.com/AirlessJordan/status/1861613613246751199

Big Dave!

[CorrectCrusader]

who made this chart , its shit! no labeled axises, you have non linear progression, two number 2 defenses.

The axis' are in fact labeled.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrmiWyYByc

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL7b_4kEU_g

[exstatic]

who made this chart , its shit! no labeled axises, you have non linear progression, two number 2 defenses.

Each axis is CLEARLY labeled. One is offensive efficiency. The other is defensive efficiency. Maybe two teams were tied at #2 defense?

[polandprzem]

Minutes #68
3pt % #116
FG% #70
Rebounds #15
Points #28
Assists # 97


he dropped in ft% at 28

Climbing the ladder

min #62
3pt% #120
FG% #58
Rebs #14
Pts #21
Ass #80

[LeBowen]

https://i.imgur.com/z1s1uha.png

And just like that, he surpasses last season's shooting splits despite his poor start.

https://i.imgur.com/0v5tMwK.png

44% on 13 attempts from 3pt over the past 6 games, fucking ridiculous. :spin

We can talk about his playstyle all we want, but if he's going to shoot it better than 36% on high volume, he can be KD all he wants.
Modern basketball unfortunately doesn't really need big men on offense, noone would be saying that KD can't play center if he was as good of a rim protector as Wemby.

[DAF86]

https://i.imgur.com/z1s1uha.png

And just like that, he surpasses last season's shooting splits despite his poor start.

https://i.imgur.com/0v5tMwK.png

44% on 13 attempts from 3pt over the past 6 games, fucking ridiculous. :spin

We can talk about his playstyle all we want, but if he's going to shoot it better than 36% on high volume, he can be KD all he wants.
Modern basketball unfortunately doesn't really need big men on offense, noone would be saying that KD can't play center if he was as good of a rim protector as Wemby.

I would like to know his splits between catch and shoot and off the dribble 3pt%. I know last season he was awful on C&S and elite
off the dribble. This season seems to be the complete opposite.

I'm starting to come around to the idea of him shooting so many 3's. With just a couple of decent games from 3 his EFG% got considerably better than last season's, even if his FG% was lower. He just needs to pick his spots better. Let the offense run a little, get a drive and kick and then pull up. Make opponents spend some energy on defense. Just mindlessly chucking up 3's as soon as you cross half-court is awful to look at, tbh.

[Mugen]

I've been hoping that he develops a mid range pull up a la D-Rob or Embiid. But maybe the 3 pointer is just his natural equivalent of that given his height/length tbh :lol

[skin27]

I've been hoping that he develops a mid range pull up a la D-Rob or Embiid. But maybe the 3 pointer is just his natural equivalent of that given his height/length tbh :lol


pick and pop on the midrage will be money for him. I dont know why they don do the play more often.

[itzsoweezee]

Wemby obviously is one of the best three point shooters on the team. If he’s able to shoot like this, he should keep taking them. I don’t think it’s a coincidence his teammates are able to consistently take it to the rim with wemby’s hot shooting drawing out the opposing rim protection

[skin27]

Wemby had more highlight reels on his rookie yseson than his sophomore.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Wemby had more highlight reels on his rookie yseson than his sophomore.
His numbers are better almost across the board, and the team is winning.
We're not really looking for highlights over wins, no?

[exstatic]

pick and pop on the midrage will be money for him. I dont know why they don do the play more often.

Because mid range is inefficient, even if you’re good at it? I’m not Mike D’Antoni who says never to shoot them, but a little goes a long way. The Spurs are 26th in 2PA and 8th in 2P%, and that’s a pretty good combination stat.

[skin27]

Pick and popnin mid range is more efficient than shooting logo 3’s

[spurraider21]

Pick and popnin mid range is more efficient than shooting logo 3’s
depends how many of em you're making

[exstatic]

Pick and popnin mid range is more efficient than shooting logo 3’s

If you shoot just 35%, that’s 105 pts/100 shots. You would have to shoot 52.5% from midrange to equal that, and elite midrange shooters are like 46-48%.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

https://i.imgur.com/z1s1uha.png

And just like that, he surpasses last season's shooting splits despite his poor start.

https://i.imgur.com/0v5tMwK.png

44% on 13 attempts from 3pt over the past 6 games, fucking ridiculous. :spin

We can talk about his playstyle all we want, but if he's going to shoot it better than 36% on high volume, he can be KD all he wants.
Modern basketball unfortunately doesn't really need big men on offense, noone would be saying that KD can't play center if he was as good of a rim protector as Wemby.
among all the teams in the league, which of the stars has fewer fta than Victor?

[skin27]

among all the teams in the league, which of the stars has fewer fta than Victor?


he doesnt have the skill to get to the line. Even Timmy on his prime was a consistently get to the freethrow line.

[ambchang]

Still not a huge fan of Wemby shooting so many threes, but I guess that helps draw the defence out for our non-shooters to cut ... until the other team puts a SF on him.

This stops him from putting fouls on the other team, and takes away his ability to get offensive rebounds.

[tbdog]

Still not a huge fan of Wemby shooting so many threes, but I guess that helps draw the defence out for our non-shooters to cut ... until the other team puts a SF on him.

This stops him from putting fouls on the other team, and takes away his ability to get offensive rebounds.

It's the long term plan. Keep him from banging down low, night in, night out. Once that 3 point shot must be respected, you must jump to contest it. Thats a one dribble dunk for him after a pump fake. Things are going to be nuts.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WnS5p6XGr4

[Thomas82]

Congrats to Wemby on his 3rd career triple-double tonight!!

[Vince Carter's ankle]

It's the long term plan. Keep him from banging down low, night in, night out. Once that 3 point shot must be respected, you must jump to contest it. Thats a one dribble dunk for him after a pump fake. Things are going to be nuts.
it doesn't work
https://imgur.com/KnEGQ6J (https://imgur.com/KnEGQ6J)

[BatManu20]

Congrats to Wemby on his 3rd career triple-double tonight!!

Youngest Center in NBA history to have a 30-point Triple-Double. Only the 4th player ever to have a 30-point Triple-Double before 21, joining LeBron, Luka, and De'Aaron Fox.

[BatManu20]

Monster.

1863440360728400208

[100%duncan]

Aside from the 3 point shooting, Wemby has developed a mid-range game quietly with the eye test. I feel like he's been making middies this year, whereas last year those shots were automatic clanks.

[Thomas82]

Youngest Center in NBA history to have a 30-point Triple-Double. Only the 4th player ever to have a 30-point Triple-Double before 21, joining LeBron, Luka, and De'Aaron Fox.

That's good company to be in.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Aside from the 3 point shooting, Wemby has developed a mid-range game quietly with the eye test. I feel like he's been making middies this year, whereas last year those shots were automatic clanks.
https://sun9-74.userapi.com/impg/3x9cxxBdsM2NeQaO5EeehOVm_7ctkPvLFpprUA/Dbla8mq_hRc.jpg?size=1268x810&quality=95&sign=c79ae7e3c7ce22f31ced51d2f9b9f881&type=album
2023/2024

https://sun9-65.userapi.com/impg/089U3A-A3K_R5r8c7r0MoabPhB39fLXzOhmYPA/EAKSO1e9cow.jpg?size=1273x806&quality=95&sign=3b11e4b32cdf1fa6b775a6197eeeb9fd&type=album
2024/2025

[Vince Carter's ankle]

he has 75 fg% in the paint (1.5 PPP)
so he needs 50 3p% to replicate that level of efficiency from beyond the arc

[spursparker9]

His mid range fade away is starting to resemble KD's

[exstatic]

it doesn't work
https://imgur.com/KnEGQ6J (https://imgur.com/KnEGQ6J)

They had to send him to the line. Of course it worked.

[exstatic]

he has 75 fg% in the paint (1.5 PPP)
so he needs 50 3p% to replicate that level of efficiency from beyond the arc

How do you think he’s getting to the paint? He’s not posting up much at all, so it’s his shot setting up his paint forays. Facing the basket,25 feet away, is one of the few times they can’t double him.

[KingKev]

Just bought my 11yr old nephew a City Edition Wemby Jersey. It was one
of the main items on his Christmas list.

For context he lives just outside of Toronto (no ties to San Antonio) and I haven't been able to get him to wear Spurs gear since he was like 5. Proud Unc moment. We are back!

[cutewizard]

Wemby rules

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaWL_2qPBGU&amp;t=13s

[Spurs Homer]

I’ve seen enough of this season to say that Wemby’s game has regressed offensively.
I don’t know who decided to have him shoot 3s like he’s Dame or Steph but that’s not who he is or will ever be.
Meanwhile his attempts to play on the elbow or in the post look worse than ever.
He doesn’t seem to know where to be in the floor.
His PnR game remains weak.
His added weight seems to have slowed him down without gaining anything inside.
He’s building absolutely horrible habits and I don’t see a primary playmaker emerging.
His ceiling remains as high as anyone in the league but he desperately needs some hard coaching.


lol

[Spurs Homer]

blocking shots is about the only thing he's good at right now tbh


lol

[Spurs Homer]

haha

Nothing makes any sense, what a mess for the Spurs and Wemby.

It could be a wrong match


lmao

[couchman]

lol

I’ve rarely been happier to be wrong.
Why was Wemby so bad to start the season?
Probably just rust I guess. GSG!

[CorrectCrusader]

That contested fader against Saboner near the end of the game last night was *chefs kiss*

[John B]

Just bought my 11yr old nephew a City Edition Wemby Jersey. It was one
of the main items on his Christmas list.

For context he lives just outside of Toronto (no ties to San Antonio) and I haven't been able to get him to wear Spurs gear since he was like 5. Proud Unc moment. We are back!

Future ST poster :bobo

[polandprzem]

I’ve rarely been happier to be wrong.
Why was Wemby so bad to start the season?
Probably just rust I guess. GSG!
Not a rust or maybe just a rust when it comes to playing basketball. But looks like he was behind in prep for a season and he was after heavier part of the training. That's why he looked tired most of the time.

[John B]

I’ve rarely been happier to be wrong.
Why was Wemby so bad to start the season?
Probably just rust I guess. GSG!

Wemby had to bulk up 25 lbs in the off-season. I gained a couple of pounds last weekend and I already feel sluggish this morning :lol

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBAFRANCE/status/1863507240814006326

[Light]

Spurs have won 33 games since drafting Wemby. First 11 wins took 54 games to get. The second 11 took 28 games. And the last 11 wins took 20 games. As flawed as his game (and others) may be, the team is trending in the right direction

[John B]

Spurs have won 33 games since drafting Wemby. First 11 wins took 54 games to get. The second 11 took 28 games. And the last 11 wins took 20 games. As flawed as his game (and others) may be, the team is trending in the right direction

Define flawed. Because we could be seeing a “Curry” in an 7’3” body unstoppable without a hand on his face.

[Light]

Define flawed. Because we could be seeing a “Curry” in an 7’3” body unstoppable without a hand on his face.


The point I was making is that despite whatever criticism you may have of his game (too many threes, too many turnovers, not strong enough in the post, etc), he's still leading us to wins. We're trending in the right direction, so perhaps those criticisms are overblown.

[John B]

The point I was making is that despite whatever criticism you may have of his game (too many threes, too many turnovers, not strong enough in the post, etc), he's still leading us to wins. We're trending in the right direction, so perhaps those criticisms are overblown.

I’m also one of those people who didn’t like Wendy chucking up 3’s, but now seems his 3’s are in rhythm and in the context of the play. I’m also convinced Wendy will be going to the post the stronger he gets, and him making the 3’s will blow by defenders trying to close out. CP3 is crucial in setting people in their places, or it could easily would’ve been ugly version of the Rockettes last year.

[exstatic]

I’m also one of those people who didn’t like Wendy chucking up 3’s, but now seems his 3’s are in rhythm and in the context of the play. I’m also convinced Wendy will be going to the post the stronger he gets, and him making the 3’s will blow by defenders trying to close out. CP3 is crucial in setting people in their places, or it could easily would’ve been ugly version of the Rockettes last year.

His best shot is lagging behind the break, CP3 penetrating, then bounce kicking it to him.

[NASpurs]

I'm not familiar with this guy. I love Vic but this guy on the video sounds like he's doing a Bill Walton impression of just using hyperboles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVnXHYtIb8

[spurraider21]

he has 75 fg% in the paint (1.5 PPP)
so he needs 50 3p% to replicate that level of efficiency from beyond the arc
he's making 85.5% of his free throws. thats over 1.7 PPP assuming he's only getting 2 attempts at a time

he should just shoot free throws and stop attempting FGs

[Vince Carter's ankle]

he's making 85.5% of his free throws. thats over 1.7 PPP assuming he's only getting 2 attempts at a time

he should just shoot free throws and stop attempting FGs
genius, i didn't say he needs to give up three pointers

[RC_Drunkford]

https://youtu.be/-aZXflKFsKY?si=KmsQ8EmcuDI8_MEI

[Leetonidas]

I'm not familiar with this guy. I love Vic but this guy on the video sounds like he's doing a Bill Walton impression of just using hyperboles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVnXHYtIb8

You should check out some of his other videos absolutely ripping other teams (ours included). Pretty entertaining stuff

[John B]

https://youtu.be/-aZXflKFsKY?si=KmsQ8EmcuDI8_MEI

Thanks for the excellent post. That shows exactly the maturity of Wemby surveying the defense. But first off, that added 25 lbs allowed him not to get easily shoved out position, CP3 directing traffic and his teammates taking advantage of an open shot.

[Brazil]

Since some comments about Victor not being good on offense, Victor had a 50 pts game with 8 3pts made, is averaging 24 ppg on 32 mpg, efficiency at .57, had a game at 11 assists.. :lol dude sucks

[spurraider21]

Since some comments about Victor not being good on offense, Victor had a 50 pts game with 8 3pts made, is averaging 24 ppg on 32 mpg, efficiency at .57, had a game at 11 assists.. :lol dude sucks
what can i say. guy became steph curry overnight :lol

[Brazil]

what can i say. guy became steph curry overnight :lol

well he has same FT % as Steph that’s a start :lol

[Joseph Kony]

his 3pt% is being ballooned by hot shooting games against the jazz, kings, and wizards though, none of whom guarded him with a wing player for the most part. hope he can keep the shooting up vs other opponents. Will be nice to get some more reps in vs the shitty east teams

[dn0774]

I'm not familiar with this guy. I love Vic but this guy on the video sounds like he's doing a Bill Walton impression of just using hyperboles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVnXHYtIb8

My favorite videos of his are the ones about the Nuggets nepo hires and Bronny James videos.

[Knoxxx]

well he has same FT % as Steph that’s a start :lol

And Wemby also has a higher 3PT and TS% than Devin Booker.

[skin27]

Still not happy with his lack of scoring in the paint. And also i noticed that he has less highlight dunks compared to last season(around december). Also he needs consistency.

[Thomas82]

The point I was making is that despite whatever criticism you may have of his game (too many threes, too many turnovers, not strong enough in the post, etc), he's still leading us to wins. We're trending in the right direction, so perhaps those criticisms are overblown.

IMO, the best way to look at it is Wemby dominating while developing. That's what I tell people.

[polandprzem]

well he has same FT % as Steph that’s a start :lol

Curry 94%
Victor 85%

[polandprzem]

Still not happy with his lack of scoring in the paint. And also i noticed that he has less highlight dunks compared to last season(around december). Also he needs consistency.
We need someone inside tbh. Wemby is not there to get his hands dirty. He is too weak, and his floping is even worse.

He decided to do an easy stuff, shooting outside adding some easy baskets when created by playmaking.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Still not happy with his lack of scoring in the paint. And also i noticed that he has less highlight dunks compared to last season(around december). Also he needs consistency.
"Highlight" dunks should be at the bottom of what anyone looks for when assessing a player's performance, overall improvement, and contribution to winning.

[Dhbsr555]

Still not happy with his lack of scoring in the paint. And also i noticed that he has less highlight dunks compared to last season(around december). Also he needs consistency.
He’s averaging 32 a game on efficient shooting over his last 8. Wtf more do you want

[quentin_compson]

It's going to be interesting to see how his shot diet will develop throughout the course of the season. Will he end up taking more threes than twos like he is currently doing? Will his FT attempt rate continue to stay considerably lower than in his rookie season? I kind of hope the answer to both questions will be "no", even though I have come to somewhat acknowledge the reasoning behind him bombing away from downtown so much for now.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

How do you think he’s getting to the paint? He’s not posting up much at all, so it’s his shot setting up his paint forays. Facing the basket,25 feet away, is one of the few times they can’t double him.
that's the problem
game against the kings is a great example of how Victor's post-ups can add variety to a team's offense
he can score with high efficiency and assist

[exstatic]

Still not happy with his lack of scoring in the paint. And also i noticed that he has less highlight dunks compared to last season(around december). Also he needs consistency.

He’s shooting better from both 2 and 3 this year, .621/534 and .350/.325. He can’t back people down and physically impose his will like traditional bigs. If you’re waiting for that, you will always be disappointed. He needs to use his shot to set up pump fake drives.

[CGD]

We need someone inside tbh. Wemby is not there to get his hands dirty. He is too weak, and his floping is even worse.

He decided to do an easy stuff, shooting outside adding some easy baskets when created by playmaking.

That’s what Sochan was doing before the injury.

[polandprzem]

That’s what Sochan was doing before the injury.
Yes I know.

We do have Sochan and Barnes that will fill that role but idk if that's enough. Bassey is not that good , same with Collins.

[TheBallsbreakers]

STers surely want Wemby to be everything, everywhere, all at once, don't they? Hitting his 3s at a decent clip on high volume recently, and finally showing flashes of a post game implemented into that, and yet some are still dissatisfied and calling for him to become Giannis overnight, too.
haha

[Dhbsr555]

STers surely want Wemby to be everything, everywhere, all at once, don't they? Hitting his 3s at a decent clip on high volume recently, and finally showing flashes of a post game implemented into that, and yet some are still dissatisfied and calling for him to become Giannis overnight, too.
haha
I get he was hyped like crazy but dude just had a 34 point td on efficient shooting and people acting like this is normal lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Huh?

Go read what that idiot I've been replying to has said in the past.

Dude thinks Wemby is going to turn into Curry.


crofl

this kunt called my post a “retard reddit take”

wemby just shit in your mouth for 3 weeks straight

[skin27]

"Highlight" dunks should be at the bottom of what anyone looks for when assessing a player's performance, overall improvement, and contribution to winning.


im not saying highlight dunks should be his first priority, i just notice that he’s doing it less this season. I miss the alleyhoop dunks and posterize dunks.

[TheBallsbreakers]

im not saying highlight dunks should be his first priority, i just notice that he’s doing it less this season. I miss the alleyhoop dunks and posterize dunks.
OK, I got you. I do miss the highlight stuff though.

[skin27]

OK, I got you. I do miss the highlight stuff though.

i haven’t seen a single poster dunk from him so far this season.

[TheBallsbreakers]

i haven’t seen a single poster dunk from him so far this season.
That one-handed, extra extension alley-oop dunk vs. the Clippers was nice.

[ambchang]

Wemby suddenly having a hot streak is by no means validation of him jacking up 9.2 3s a game, when he is shooting 9 2s a game. More than half of his shots are 3 and by definition, 3s are a highly variable shot and it generally does not lead to FTs. He is obviously still amazing, but this shot diet is unreliable and also doesn't open up the offence for the other Spurs. The Spurs are 27th in the league in 2P attempts when they have a massive cheat code and supposedly a bunch of guys who can't shoot. They are also 20th in FTA when they have a guy like Wemby who can pretty much only be guarded by fouling him. The Spurs are not terrible on offence, but they are definitely average, and there are ways to improve the overall team offence.

Having Wemby shooting 3's at a rate that is 20% above league average, when he is 2% below league average is not overly smart. Having him shooting FTs at a rate 20% below league average when his FT shooting is 10% above league average also isn't the smartest way of doing things. With all the 3s Wemby is shooting (and making), he is only 5% above league average in TS%. Compare this to, say Curry, who for his career is 13% above average, Jokic who is 12% above, and everybody's favourite comp Durant who is 13% above. The biggest problem for Wemby is the lack of FTs, and much of it has to do with him jacking up quick 3s, where the opposition doesn't even have the chance to foul him.

I would still prefer to have Wemby start the offence in the high post, where teams just have to double team, triple team, or clog the paint to stop him from one-stepping in for a dunk/layup, this will open up the entire three point line for the other 4 Spurs. If the opposition decides to slag off non-shooters like Sochan or Castle, a screen and/or backdoor cut to the basket with a pop from the screener will do the trick. If the opposition do not double Wemby, he can either shoot it over his defender, or the other four players can just cut and weave until the defence is dizzy from all the movement. He can obviously still step out for threes, and if the Spurs are looking to basically extend the plays I mentioned above up to the three point line, then it would be incredible, but other than Curry, I really haven't seen anyone double teaming a three point shooter.

Wemby isn't the next Duncan or Hakeem on offence, he should model his game like Garnett and to a lesser extend the Admiral, with his range extended to 25 to 27 feet, but the bread and butter should still be around the high post area, where he is just going to be unstoppable. If Wemby can keep his 3 pters at around 5 to 6 a game, with about 12 to 13 2 pters (mostly on drives), he would still be highly efficient but I would bet he'd get about 4 or 5 more FTs a game. The efficiency would come out about the same or slightly higher, but it would put an immense pressure on the defence as he can put multiple bigs in foul trouble.

On defence, his agility and length will be a Garnett on steroids, and considering Garnett was one of the best defensive players of all time, Wemby is just going to wreck the league on that end.

[Seventyniner]

We might see Wemby's 3 point rate decrease as he builds his conditioning. Right now he doesn't have the stamina to play a decent amount of minutes and be an all-universe rim protector and post up/drive dozens of times per game.

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kee9WKYDMY

[TheBallsbreakers]

We might see Wemby's 3 point rate decrease as he builds his conditioning. Right now he doesn't have the stamina to play a decent amount of minutes and be an all-universe rim protector and post up/drive dozens of times per game.
People seem to forget he's working his ass extra hard on the defensive end. Anchoring the defense and often having to bang down low against the likes of Sabonis, AD, Sengun, et al. Given his still developing body and body type it is just downright NOT smart to expect him to bang all out ON BOTH ENDS.

I fully support the kid shooting as many threes as he and the staff sees fit until he develops that shot into a respectable weapon (getting there every game) AND he grows into his body and gains more strength and stamina.

Go shoot em, Wemby!

[drpill]

People seem to forget he's working his ass extra hard on the defensive end. Anchoring the defense and often having to bang down low against the likes of Sabonis, AD, Sengun, et al. Given his still developing body and body type it is just downright NOT smart to expect him to bang all out ON BOTH ENDS.

I fully support the kid shooting as many threes as he and the staff sees fit until he develops that shot into a respectable weapon (getting there every game) AND he grows into his body and gains more strength and stamina.

Go shoot em, Wemby!

Yep, this is it. I had no idea his three point shooting would come along so fast, and I'm still prepared for some rough nights where that shot isn't falling. But eventually Wemby is going to fully round out his game, and when that happens he'll be truly unstoppable. It all makes perfect sense unless you're too impatient to see the bigger picture. No skipping steps!

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBAPR/status/1864044466186699226

[skin27]

Wemby needs to learn how to be consistent 27 to 30pt scorer every game to give hisbteam a chance of win

[TowelWaver]

This is exactly the type of game that a go-to move would have been handy, when the three just isn’t there. But then, he looked a step slow on defense too. Hopefully this one sticks in his craw a bit.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

https://imgur.com/f7qbt2V

[DAF86]

crofl

this kunt called my post a “retard reddit take”

wemby just shit in your mouth for 3 weeks straight

This is what happens when the shot doesn't fall: a 7'6" generational talent goes scoreless an entire half. The 3pt shot is nice he it's falling, but when it doesn't, Wemby needs to find other ways to score.

[polandprzem]

Suns exposed Wembys defense. Other teams stayed away from him but Suns went at him and were successful. Not that he was tragic but he is not complete defender.

[polandprzem]

This is what happens when the shot doesn't fall: a 7'6" generational talent goes scoreless an entire half. The 3pt shot is nice he it's falling, but when it doesn't, Wemby needs to find other ways to score.
He did, early in the 3rd. But him not being able to back down the weakest and smallest defender down low? That's funny. If he can't though. That's turnaround shot over them or pass when the double team comes.

[LakerHater]

Requested sumwhere else so i thought I'd share here too

https://images4.imagebam.com/37/dc/df/MEXUPHW_o.gif

[itzsoweezee]

Wemby needs to learn how to be consistent 27 to 30pt scorer every game to give hisbteam a chance of win

How many 20 years can do that? Ever. Hell, how many players in the entire league can do that? He’s a second year player. To expect him to play on an mvp level is just unreasonable expectations

[LeBowen]

How many 20 years can do that? Ever. Hell, how many players in the entire league can do that? He’s a second year player. To expect him to play on an mvp level is just unreasonable expectations

I feel like a lot of people with those takes haven't really followed the league other than watching Spurs during contending years.
Timmy is an outlier that has very low chances of happening again. Can't expect such consistency from young players.

Not to mention that if Wemby went the same route, he wouldn't have been drafted yet.

[Spurs Homer]

This is what happens when the shot doesn't fall: a 7'6" generational talent goes scoreless an entire half. The 3pt shot is nice he it's falling, but when it doesn't, Wemby needs to find other ways to score.


no

this is what happens when you have zero idea wtf you are talking about…
and wemby goes on a month long tear and makes you experts look like the moron amateur armchair kunts you truly are


hahahahahahahahahaha!

[skin27]

How many 20 years can do that? Ever. Hell, how many players in the entire league can do that? He’s a second year player. To expect him to play on an mvp level is just unreasonable expectations

lebron and luka or even durant. Lebron did it a year younger than wemby. If wemby is a generational talent like lebron he should be able to score atleast 27pts a game in his 2nd year.

even shaq averaged 29pts in his 2nd year.lol

[Gibbz]

There's no one ahead of Vic in VORP this year who's played fewer minutes than him. Also #6 PER behind Giannis, Jokic, AD, SGA, KAT.

[polandprzem]

There's no one ahead of Vic in VORP this year who's played fewer minutes than him. Also #6 PER behind Giannis, Jokic, AD, SGA, KAT.

He is 12 at VORP

[Gibbz]

He is 12 at VORP

Yep, "no one ahead . . . who's played fewer minutes"

[John B]

lebron and luka or even durant. Lebron did it a year younger than wemby. If wemby is a generational talent like lebron he should be able to score atleast 27pts a game in his 2nd year.

even shaq averaged 29pts in his 2nd year.lol

LeBron averaged 27.3 pts, Luka 25.7 pts and Durant 22.7 pts on their 2nd year. All great numbers. Wemby is at 23.5 pts currently. I think he’ll get there as he gets even NBA-strong. What people kept missing is Wemby is an anomaly at 7’3 235 lbs. There is no similar great player to pattern from. Kobe basically just copied Jordan to be among the greats. Those names you mentioned have typical NBA-ready bodies. Wemby’s so tall, his dribbles are too high going through traffic. Nor does he have Shaq’s big body to bully in the paint. The Spurs coaching staff are still figuring how to maximize his skills, while he gets NBA-strong, hence the 3pt shots (with no hands on his face).

Again easier to compare apple to apple. Wemby is an alien.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RcF-8gTMdk

[itzsoweezee]

lebron and luka or even durant. Lebron did it a year younger than wemby. If wemby is a generational talent like lebron he should be able to score atleast 27pts a game in his 2nd year.

even shaq averaged 29pts in his 2nd year.lol

He could average 27 points a game if that was all that was asked of him. But he also is asked to carry all of the load on defense too. None of those guys had the two-way impact wemby has had so far this year.

[itzsoweezee]

I feel like a lot of people with those takes haven't really followed the league other than watching Spurs during contending years.
Timmy is an outlier that has very low chances of happening again. Can't expect such consistency from young players.

Not to mention that if Wemby went the same route, he wouldn't have been drafted yet.

Absolutely. Most of the people on here just don’t watch basketball outside of the spurs even now.

And Timmy was also dropped into the perfect situation, and had a role from day 1. Wemby was stuck playing his rookie year in a completely dysfunctional situation.

Still, by the end of the season, I think Victor will be dominating

[polandprzem]

Yep, "no one ahead . . . who's played fewer minutes"
No one ahead of Eason that played fewer minutes

[Pauleta14]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RcF-8gTMdk

I give it a try sometimes but it's one of the worst show on youtube, they just don't watch games and spit clichés most of the time. Last season they kept trying to push for Chet up until very late lmao

Not as bad a Gil's Arena's but close

[skin27]

LeBron averaged 27.3 pts, Luka 25.7 pts and Durant 22.7 pts on their 2nd year. All great numbers. Wemby is at 23.5 pts currently. I think he’ll get there as he gets even NBA-strong. What people kept missing is Wemby is an anomaly at 7’3 235 lbs. There is no similar great player to pattern from. Kobe basically just copied Jordan to be among the greats. Those names you mentioned have typical NBA-ready bodies. Wemby’s so tall, his dribbles are too high going through traffic. Nor does he have Shaq’s big body to bully in the paint. The Spurs coaching staff are still figuring how to maximize his skills, while he gets NBA-strong, hence the 3pt shots (with no hands on his face).

Again easier to compare apple to apple. Wemby is an alien.

wemby should be a better scorer than shaq because of his better 3pt shooting and freethrow shooting. The only problem with wemby is he doesnt know how to draw fouls and get to the freethrowline

[John B]

wemby should be a better scorer than shaq because of his better 3pt shooting and freethrow shooting. The only problem with wemby is he doesnt know how to draw fouls and get to the freethrowline

To draw fouls, you need to be physical. Have you seen Wemby’s body? And you want him to be physical? Again his overall usage is already high because he plays both sides of the court, anchoring the team defense, leading DPOY candidate, and highest team scoring with 23 pts. At 235 lbs stick. And you want him to be more physical?

[skin27]

To draw fouls, you need to be physical. Have you seen Wemby’s body? And you want him to be physical? Again his overall usage is already high because he plays both sides of the court, anchoring the team defense, leading DPOY candidate, and highest team scoring with 23 pts. At 235 lbs stick. And you want him to be more physical?

durant is skiny as wemby but is able to draw fouls

[John B]

durant is skiny as wemby but is able to draw fouls

Timmy didn’t average 30 pts and he lasted 19 years, and the goat PF. You don’t play your franchise player (especially with Wemby’s body type) into the ground and risk injuries. You have Castle and Sochan increase their productions instead. How long have you been a Spurs fan, and not know Spurs manage minutes, and retire them with long 16-19 years Hofer careers.

[z0sa]

Strongly agree that Wemby needs to play more physical. The 3 point stroke is nice, but it can't be your bread and butter if you want to be 1A on a title winner. You need some ability to get into the paint and draw fouls when that outside shot isn't falling. He needs a bit more junk in his game in the post areas - which is asking a lot of a 20 year old, tbf. He needs more time. Relatively speaking, I think he's doing just fine.