The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama [Archive] - Page 24

rjv

08-04-2025, 12:22 PM

I thought it was Sampson's knees. I think Houston rushed him back from a knee injury that should have knocked him out for the season in 87 and he was never the same player again. Though the Sampson comparison to Wemby is nuts IMO, only thing they share is body type. Sampson was an above average defender but Wemby has Bill Russell level potential defensively and is already way way better than Sampson ever was on that end. Offensively Sampson didn't have Wemby's jumper and was nowhere close to the passer Wemby is. About the only thing they have in common offensively is both being devastating finishers in transition. I watched Sampson's entire career and I just don't see him at all in Wemby.

yeah, i never agreed with the sampson comps. seems like a lazy comparison, imho.

BatManu20

08-04-2025, 12:22 PM

I thought it was Sampson's knees. I think Houston rushed him back from a knee injury that should have knocked him out for the season in 87 and he was never the same player again. Though the Sampson comparison to Wemby is nuts IMO, only thing they share is body type. Sampson was an above average defender but Wemby has Bill Russell level potential defensively and is already way way better than Sampson ever was on that end. Offensively Sampson didn't have Wemby's jumper and was nowhere close to the passer Wemby is. About the only thing they have in common offensively is both being devastating finishers in transition. I watched Sampson's entire career and I just don't see him at all in Wemby.

You're right, my b. It was his left knee that he suffered torn cartilage in back in '87 and they rushed him back from it and he never recovered. He also had some minor foot and back injuries throughout his career, but his knees were the big one.

BatManu20

08-04-2025, 12:29 PM

Wow, that's a wild coincidence running into Vic.

Didn't Eric coach in the NBA for a little while? I remember his name, don't think he was an NBA head coach for many seasons, though? I know he now coaches college. Is he a well regarded coach?

He's the HC at USC now but yea he was the HC of the Warriors from 2002-04 and has been an Asst. Coach for multiple NBA teams over the years. He's stuck to college hoops the past decade or so though.

skin27

08-04-2025, 02:55 PM

You’re stuck in the 90s, brah. Unless you’re a unicorn like Jokic or Wemby who can create for themselves and for others, you’re not winning an MVP as a big. If you expect him to get into the paint, catch an entry pass, and throw up a hook shot, AND be in the MVP convo, you will be disappointed. That type of game makes him a support player, dependent on guards to get him the ball. The only post player to win since Duncan was Joel Embiid, and the voters got ripped to shreds for that. Jokic should be sitting on a four peat. Jokic is an offensive hub, as Wemby could be.

BTW, Wemby shot 42% on pull up 3s last year, and that includes the logo shots.

Jokic has a post up game and can back down a smaller defender if he get switched. Wemby cant. Wemby cant even solve dillon brooks guarding him.

spurraider21

08-04-2025, 03:04 PM

Jokic has a post up game and can back down a smaller defender if he get switched. Wemby cant. Wemby cant even solve dillon brooks guarding him.
yeah he needs to be much better at punishing teams guarding him with a guy a foot shorter than him. this is something KP did for Boston which was the big x-factor for them in their title run. pretty sure he was the most efficient post scorer in the league that year because he would basically save it for when teams guarded him with smalls

BatManu20

08-05-2025, 11:37 AM

Giannis a future Spur confirmed.

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ace3g

08-05-2025, 09:33 PM

https://x.com/KevinGarnett5KG/status/1952905307119849843

heyheymymy

08-05-2025, 09:43 PM

Not a big KG type myself but what a great mentor for young wemby. Who better to teach some dawg and hopefully that mid range assassin game too

ginobilized

08-05-2025, 10:47 PM

https://x.com/KevinGarnett5KG/status/1952905307119849843

Damn, Ace, you are always on point with this stuff!
I'd love to know more about KG/Wemby working together.

The Truth #6

08-05-2025, 11:33 PM

Not a big KG type myself but what a great mentor for young wemby. Who better to teach some dawg and hopefully that mid range assassin game too

I'm trying to think of any power forwards who played for SA that could be helpful. Antoine Carr maybe? No. Let's see. Sidney Green. No. There has to be someone. Thinking...

tim_duncan_fan

08-05-2025, 11:44 PM

Jokic has a post up game and can back down a smaller defender if he get switched. Wemby cant. Wemby cant even solve dillon brooks guarding him.

Feels like this took Dirk 10 years to remotely figure out.

spurraider21

08-05-2025, 11:52 PM

Feels like this took Dirk 10 years to remotely figure out.
were we watching the same dirk? he was an all-nba player by year 3, top 10 scorer in the league by year 4

cutewizard

08-06-2025, 01:54 AM

Hook shot is saying hello to Wemby for a long time now lol

exstatic

08-06-2025, 12:12 PM

were we watching the same dirk? he was an all-nba player by year 3, top 10 scorer in the league by year 4

Doesn’t mean he had a post game. LeBron even struggled, and with a body much more suited for it than Wemby. Ironically, it was Dallas that embarrassed him into developing his post game in the 2010 Finals, which would have been his 7th season,

LeBowen

08-06-2025, 12:23 PM

The only post game Wemby needs is being able to maintan balance when he gets the ball. He can shoot over anyone with ease and all those shots around the paint are high percentage considering his shooting touch.

skin27

08-06-2025, 01:28 PM

Doesn’t mean he had a post game. LeBron even struggled, and with a body much more suited for it than Wemby. Ironically, it was Dallas that embarrassed him into developing his post game in the 2010 Finals, which would have been his 7th season,

that was 2011 finals. Post game doesnt mean the 90’s post game.

rjv

08-06-2025, 02:42 PM

Not a big KG type myself but what a great mentor for young wemby. Who better to teach some dawg and hopefully that mid range assassin game too

Wemby gonna be dropping f bombs left and right now.

heyheymymy

08-06-2025, 05:01 PM

Wemby gonna be dropping f bombs left and right now.

Multiple sources describe a widely circulated rumor that Kevin Garnett allegedly said "Happy Mother's Day, motherf***er!" to Tim Duncan during a 1999 playoff game. This comment was particularly hurtful because Duncan's mother passed away shortly before his 14th birthday.

lol can't picture wemby trash talking at all and maybe he should get some edge but hope KG doesn't rub off on him too much

cutewizard

08-06-2025, 05:05 PM

Is he mentoring Wemby

Or just a random meeting?

heyheymymy

08-06-2025, 05:15 PM

But seriously, that KG mid range game with the high release point on the shot would not be the worst thing for wemby to copy in terms of reducing wear and tear on our franchise guy. Feast on low contact scoring with unblockable looks mixed into a variety of overall offense to bulk up numbers and draw defenders out for our three headed playmakers to attack.

ambchang

08-06-2025, 05:57 PM

I’ve been saying for a while now that wemby is KG 2.0, not just his offensive game but especially his defensive game. KG has elite lateral quickness and I’m not sure if wemby can just pick it up.

On O instead of a mid range game wemby can do the same stuff but from 3, that passing and driving ability will open things up for him.

I know this is spurs land and Duncan and Robinson reign supreme, but there isn’t any other player more suitable than OG to be a model for Wembys game.

quentin_compson

08-06-2025, 06:17 PM

KobesAchilles

08-06-2025, 06:26 PM

were we watching the same dirk? he was an all-nba player by year 3, top 10 scorer in the league by year 4
He couldn’t post up smaller players. It’s why they lost in 07 to the Warriors.

LeBowen

08-06-2025, 06:27 PM

They won't be as high percentage as actual shots at the rim, though.

He'll get to the rim with his face up game, I don't consider it post game.
And obviously with his verticality and easy dunks/layups.

Guru of Nothing

08-06-2025, 10:15 PM

Garnett looking like the Ball-ai Llama.

playbonner15

08-07-2025, 02:37 AM

Is he mentoring Wemby

Or just a random meeting?

I read somewhere that it might be for a commercial (Nike or NBA)

szkorhetz

08-07-2025, 05:33 AM

that was 2011 finals. Post game doesnt mean the 90’s post game.
Hard to believe that was 14 years ago.

cutewizard

08-07-2025, 10:34 PM

https://youtu.be/gd4eMSWVzVo?si=NJFzP6a2qClPLI84

BatManu20

08-09-2025, 10:11 AM

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RC_Drunkford

08-09-2025, 01:40 PM

I'm trying to think of any power forwards who played for SA that could be helpful. Antoine Carr maybe? No. Let's see. Sidney Green. No. There has to be someone. Thinking...

LaMarcus Aldridge

Ice009

08-09-2025, 04:57 PM

LaMarcus Aldridge

I remember seeing a video with LaMarcus a year or so ago, and I think he was saying he'd like to work with Victor but no one has reached out to him? I don't know how true that is, but I think he could definitely help.

exstatic

08-09-2025, 06:33 PM

I remember seeing a video with LaMarcus a year or so ago, and I think he was saying he'd like to work with Victor but no one has reached out to him? I don't know how true that is, but I think he could definitely help.

Victor would have to be interested. Spurs aren’t just going to arrange it for him. They let him set his agenda.

Ice009

08-10-2025, 01:23 AM

Jokic says he learned a lot from playing against LaMarcus and I think has watched back film too. LMA was a good player in his prime on offense. No reason Victor shouldn't work with him.

exstatic

08-10-2025, 06:44 AM

Jokic says he learned a lot from playing against LaMarcus and I think has watched back film too. LMA was a good player in his prime on offense. No reason Victor shouldn't work with him.

Jokic and Victor are two vastly different players. Jokic plays a lot with his back to the basket like LMA did. Victor does not.

It all comes down to victor. He has to want to work with LMA.

Ice009

08-10-2025, 08:50 AM

I still think Victor can learn some go to moves from LaMarcus. He doesn't really have any right now. I think LA can help him develop some. Regardless of back to the basket or not, Victor can learn and see if he can incorporate those moves. If he can't hold his ground due to lack of weight, at least he'll still have learned the moves. If he doesn't want to work with him, well, I can't really say much as it's Victor's choice like you've said.

Amuseddaysleeper

08-10-2025, 10:02 AM

Hope to see him attack the rim/play in the paint a little more

ambchang

08-10-2025, 11:14 AM

Aldridge does have a face up game that can be quite lethal due to his accurate mid range jump shot. He can nail the shot, pump fake and drive (mostly right), give and go, and he can do effective screen and pops. The thing is that he does have a very strong base to establish position so wemby either has to work to get a stronger base (and core) or he has to learn how to navigate through screens and get the ball at optimal spots to start his offence.

Once wemby gets the ball he has more options as he can shoot over people, he is a very good passer, he can drive as well. What he has to do is first learn how to get the ball at the right positions instead of 35 feet away from the basket. He can then work on the drives without getting stripped, shooting over people with contact, finishing in the paint with moves and counter moves and all that. Having. Wemby work on those Hakeem advanced moves is a bit of a cart before the horse things IMHO. His post moves are rudimentary at best, his body type isn’t yet suitable For that type of game and the team doesn’t have a reliable set of plays to get him the ball at the right spots yet.

He is such a rare generational talent though that even though he’s relatively raw he can already be a top 10, if not top 5 player in the league. If he ever becomes a finished product and get all those little things worked out wemby can be absolutely devastating.

spursistan

08-10-2025, 03:49 PM

If we get this Wemby for 70 games, i would go ahead and lock the Spurs up for a Top 6 seed. He was majestic in that late Nov-Dec run last year..

https://x.com/SpursCulture/status/1954005655129665921

cutewizard

08-10-2025, 05:01 PM

https://youtu.be/4f6zVMb4dU0?si=iBBq099G5k1e5IKA

exstatic

08-10-2025, 06:32 PM

If we get this Wemby for 70 games, i would go ahead and lock the Spurs up for a Top 6 seed. He was majestic in that late Nov-Dec run last year..

https://x.com/SpursCulture/status/1954005655129665921

If those are his numbers, we’re a top 2-3 seed.

RC_Drunkford

08-11-2025, 03:18 PM

I remember seeing a video with LaMarcus a year or so ago, and I think he was saying he'd like to work with Victor but no one has reached out to him? I don't know how true that is, but I think he could definitely help.

they worked out together at the Spurs facility at some point in his rookie season. I think it was just for a day though.