The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S947zBeJkCQ

[BatManu20]

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[TDMVPDPOY]

thread should be rename to WENDYS till this clown give the spurs a dominant game

[Atl Spur]

He is gonna be A Ok:)

[playblair]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0jkiU6WwAIj9Io?format=jpg&name=medium

[Killakobe81]

Way to many over the top takes after one game
Some being way to soft on him others overly critical
He showed flashes of greatness and flashes of concern
It’s one game
I would love him on my team
But still don’t see best prospect since Bron
KD AD and Luka still the bar
Heck some fools could argue healthy Oden (who some here and elsewhere compared to David) but I believe in Wemby more than him (pre injury)
As I said on draft night Oden walked funny in college
Wemby looks graceful - just gotta stop dribbling in to traffic and get stronger not bigger

[cutewizard]

Way to many over the top takes after one game
Some being way to soft on him others overly critical
He showed flashes of greatness and flashes of concern
It’s one game
I would love him on my team
But still don’t see best prospect since Bron
KD AD and Luka still the bar
Heck some fools could argue healthy Oden (who some here and elsewhere compared to David) but I believe in Wemby more than him (pre injury)
As I said on draft night Oden walked funny in college
Wemby looks graceful - just gotta stop dribbling in to traffic and get stronger not bigger

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LEN BIAS EXCEEDS LEBRON

len bias is the true comparison for Lebron, and unfortunately he went too soon

my take ..................Bias >>>>>>>>>James

[TrainOfThought5]

He’s gonna be good. I’m expecting big things on Sunday night

[bdictjames]

Yes, petition to change the title. Although yes, it means a bakery, but can we find something less soft?

[DAF86]

Way to many over the top takes after one game
Some being way to soft on him others overly critical
He showed flashes of greatness and flashes of concern
It’s one game
I would love him on my team
But still don’t see best prospect since Bron
KD AD and Luka still the bar
Heck some fools could argue healthy Oden (who some here and elsewhere compared to David) but I believe in Wemby more than him (pre injury)
As I said on draft night Oden walked funny in college
Wemby looks graceful - just gotta stop dribbling in to traffic and get stronger not bigger

The irony. :lol

[Degoat]

I think he really needs to work on the dirk shot being his goto move. He tried backing down little guys and got his shit stolen to many times

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/1678101325190672385?s=46

This one and the play where Kai Jones almost landed on his ankle just right. Wemby needs to be more careful man

[timvp]

^Tbh, that play is 100% Branham's fault. Guard shouldn't start moving until the screen is set. That would have been an offensive foul if any contact were made.

[onechance87]

https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/1678101325190672385?s=46

This one and the play where Kai Jones almost landed on his ankle just right. Wemby needs to be more careful man

thats scary

[SpursFan86]

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Our franchise player :cry

[SpursFan86]

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Our franchise player :cry

Extra sleep paid off tbh...I know it's just SL but awesome bounce back performance by Victor. Think one of the best parts about tonight was seeing him getting fired up down the stretch as they were trying to pull off the comeback. Dude wants to win.

[Seventyniner]

Extra sleep paid off tbh...I know it's just SL but awesome bounce back performance by Victor. Think one of the best parts about tonight was seeing him getting fired up down the stretch as they were trying to pull off the comeback. Dude wants to win.

This. Wemby doesn't care if it's summer league or the Finals, he wants the dub every night. Exactly the kind of attitude you want in your franchise player.

[BatManu20]

Yeah honestly who cares about the loss tbh. Wemby putting on this kind of bounce-back performance spoke volumes. That’s what you wanted to see, and he showed it. Even when his teammates around him were playing like garbage. We win that game easily if the rest of the roster doesn’t shit the bed. Great performance by the Frenchman nonetheless. You love to see it.

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[DAF86]

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[BatManu20]

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[TrainOfThought5]

thread should be rename to WENDYS till this clown give the spurs a dominant game

LOL we should send you back to the greys.

[slick'81]

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:cry

[DAF86]

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"The NBA is way less physical". This is what I don't get of people saying "he needs to play PF to avoid getting banged up". If he played center in Europe, he can play center in the NBA, tbh. Sure, this is just summer league, but even with NBA starters, every basketball fan knows that the NBA is the softest basketball league in the World.

[SpursFan86]

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:cry

[Kurik]

Protect Wemby at all cost

[spursparker9]

Man, has any of the previous number 1 draft picks speak with such maturity?

[widowmaker]

Way to many over the top takes after one game
Some being way to soft on him others overly critical
He showed flashes of greatness and flashes of concern
It’s one game
I would love him on my team
But still don’t see best prospect since Bron
KD AD and Luka still the bar
Heck some fools could argue healthy Oden (who some here and elsewhere compared to David) but I believe in Wemby more than him (pre injury)
As I said on draft night Oden walked funny in college
Wemby looks graceful - just gotta stop dribbling in to traffic and get stronger not bigger


and kobe needs to avoid helicopters, oops too late lmao!!!

[Adam Lambert]

Man, has any of the previous number 1 draft picks speak with such maturity?

Walton, Alcindor, Robinson, come to mind. But I love his poise and his thoughtfulness.

[cutewizard]

Wembyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[JPB]

I honestly don't understand how the spurs could have put Wemby in that media marathon after the draft... That's where you still see the cultural difference. Kid himself admits BB has only been 50% of his time thes past few weeks and that he can't stand it.

Let the kid focuse on BB these next 3 months.

[cutewizard]

Wemby is saving the NBA

[BatManu20]

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[cutewizard]

i swear to God that Victor moves like my original idol, RAMON FERNANDEZ, of the Philippines

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbiiRbUpwI

[cutewizard]

and this is famous ELEGANT SHOT of Ramon Fernandez, 1980s.......

incredible!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WZKkxBjRVE

[spursparker9]

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:lol Ben Simmons, Zion, Ja Wick etc will be contented with perhaps 10% basketball time and the rest 90% be whore time and gun time

[cutewizard]

i became a fan of the Spurs, because i thought that David Robinson was the closest thing that i could relate to DON RAMON .....

and the rest is history

im probably one of the very first original Spurs fans from the Philippines

today, so many people joining the bandwagon.....

but you can you imagine.....[people would flock to the popular cities.....but i never swerved in my loyalty all these years


Don Ramon >>>> then The Admiral >>> then Manu >>> and now Victor


nice to reminisce.....but again it is also nice to be an ancient fan, hahahahahaha

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE4ZwRk3f4o

[SpursGenius]

I think Wemby needs the Kareem skyhook, the Nikola soft touch inside game, Dirk midrange fadeaway, Giannis half court game. Combine those 4 and you have the greates player ever. He had the ability to achieve all those shots. I’m not even talking about defense. He will be better than above 4 on defense already.

[Pauleta14]

I think Wemby needs the Kareem skyhook, the Nikola soft touch inside game, Dirk midrange fadeaway, Giannis half court game. Combine those 4 and you have the greates player ever. He had the ability to achieve all those shots. I’m not even talking about defense. He will be better than above 4 on defense already.

The skyhook is more difficult that it looks but he defenitely needs a go to move to raise his efficiency.

He has a nice bank shot

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGn_v68gcVk

[ace3g]

Mike Finger Mikefinger
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Can report Victor Wembanyama is now 100% finished with summer league, per the Spurs.

All along, two games was the plan. Spurs wanted him to get a taste of the NBA, and he got it. Team saw what it wanted to see, now giving him a break after a busy 12 months.

[exstatic]

Mike Finger Mikefinger
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Can report Victor Wembanyama is now 100% finished with summer league, per the Spurs.

All along, two games was the plan. Spurs wanted him to get a taste of the NBA, and he got it. Team saw what it wanted to see, now giving him a break after a busy 12 months.

I was pretty sure he was done when he said something last night about not doing any press for a month. You can't do that and play.

[John B]

Mike Finger Mike (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)finger
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Can report Victor Wembanyama is now 100% finished with summer league, per the Spurs.

All along, two games was the plan. Spurs wanted him to get a taste of the NBA, and he got it. Team saw what it wanted to see, now giving him a break after a busy 12 months.

I approve this message :lol

[John B]

and this is famous ELEGANT SHOT of Ramon Fernandez, 1980s.......

incredible!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WZKkxBjRVE

El Presidente

[Ariel]

Mike Finger Mike (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)finger
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Can report Victor Wembanyama is now 100% finished with summer league, per the Spurs.

All along, two games was the plan. Spurs wanted him to get a taste of the NBA, and he got it. Team saw what it wanted to see, now giving him a break after a busy 12 months.
Yeah, sounds like a good call. He did just enough but not too much, the right amount not be on everyone's minds for good or bad, and he deserves the rest. Get ready for the season, we'll need you.

[couchman]

The funny thing is he's not going to rest at all. The kid is going to quietly go to work behind the scenes

[BatManu20]

Right call. Shut him down and get him in the weight room. Let Branham, Champ, Blake, and Barlow get more reps.

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[RC_Drunkford]

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[Brazil]

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nice quick interview tbh... I like that Tony said he will bring US a championship :lol

[lefty20]

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[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRMYq1Q_H4I

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1678498286016266240

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Shot_Quality/status/1678388637304602624

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLZ9EUMoiA4&pp=ygUKd2VtYmFueWFtYQ%3D%3D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9suw5bl4XbI&pp=ygUKd2VtYmFueWFtYQ%3D%3D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUVsyAUeuro&pp=ygUKd2VtYmFueWFtYQ%3D%3D

[lefty]

Walton, Alcindor, Robinson, come to mind. But I love his poise and his thoughtfulness.
You mean Abdul Jabbar

[Ariel]

https://andscape.com/features/victor-wembanyamas-agent-bouna-ndiaye-is-helping-the-no-1-pick-be-himself/

What would you say about the concerns about his strength at this point?

Did you see an issue here in Vegas? No. People are wrong. We’re not focused at all on weights. I don’t want to put weight on his body. We’re going to fight to not put weight on his body. Weight on his body [is] a big mistake. We focus on strength, core. We were very pleased that he linked up [with] Jabbar who played until [41] years old. That’s the path that we want to take …

I’m very glad they, they connected because uh, have a similar body type. Kareem was not heavy. Victor is more mobile, gaudier and taller than Kareem. So, that difference in height is a challenge and is something that we are working on every day. Making him heavy? We don’t want to do that.

What do you think about the Spurs organization that Victor is joining?

Fantastic. One of the best DNAs and cultures in basketball. Coach Pop [Gregg Popovich]. I’ve been telling Victor that if Coach Pop coaches you for 15 years, you’ll have [those teachings] for all of your life. No one can push you as much as Coach Pop. I just want to be alive in four or five years to see how great he can be.

[Mr. Body]

https://andscape.com/features/victor-wembanyamas-agent-bouna-ndiaye-is-helping-the-no-1-pick-be-himself/

What would you say about the concerns about his strength at this point?

Did you see an issue here in Vegas? No. People are wrong. We’re not focused at all on weights. I don’t want to put weight on his body. We’re going to fight to not put weight on his body. Weight on his body [is] a big mistake. We focus on strength, core. We were very pleased that he linked up [with] Jabbar who played until [41] years old. That’s the path that we want to take …

I’m very glad they, they connected because uh, have a similar body type. Kareem was not heavy. Victor is more mobile, gaudier and taller than Kareem. So, that difference in height is a challenge and is something that we are working on every day. Making him heavy? We don’t want to do that.

What do you think about the Spurs organization that Victor is joining?

Fantastic. One of the best DNAs and cultures in basketball. Coach Pop [Gregg Popovich]. I’ve been telling Victor that if Coach Pop coaches you for 15 years, you’ll have [those teachings] for all of your life. No one can push you as much as Coach Pop. I just want to be alive in four or five years to see how great he can be.

I don't know what relationship he'll have with Kareem. I guess it won't be that close, but who knows. But it occurred to me watching Victor in the post one of the reasons why Kareem used the sky hook so much. I've always heard it's because he wasn't allowed to dunk for a time, it was illegal. But it seems to be a good way of using the trunk of your body more when you're that tall and skinny. Turning, using your shoulder, more base against the defender using your base while not having to use as much energy in a turnaround jumper. Zach has a really nice baby hook. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wemby develop at least a little of one before long.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/FanDuelTV/status/1678811394060476418

[BatManu20]

I like Zach tbh. Think his best basketball is still ahead of him if he can stay healthy.
Hope he has a long future with the Spurs. Think he and Wemby could form a nice, big, skilled Front-court together.

[Mr. Body]

I like Zach tbh. Think his best basketball is still ahead of him if he can stay healthy.
Hope he has a long future with the Spurs. Think he and Wemby could form a nice, big, skilled Front-court together.

Zach and Sochan are going to play off Victor extremely well, the space he provides them around the basket.

[Adam Lambert]

You mean Abdul Jabbar

Wasn't his name when he was drafted

[exstatic]

Wasn't his name when he was drafted

It’s his name now, and for Wemby’s entire life,

[lefty]

Wasn't his name when he was drafted
You are right, my bad

He converted 1 year before he was drafted but changed his name after he was drafted

[Adam Lambert]

It’s his name now, and for Wemby’s entire life,

We were talking about number one picks in the NBA draft. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was named Lew Alcinder when he was chosen number one. Not really worth overthinking. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Zach will look impressive playing next to Wemby. He‘s gonna get paid

[Ariel]

We were talking about number one picks in the NBA draft. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was named Lew Alcinder when he was chosen number one. Not really worth overthinking. :lol
Don't really care either way, but if you're going to make such a fuss about his name, AT LEAST GET IT RIGHT YOURSELF: AlcindOr

[Adam Lambert]

Don't really care either way, but if you're going to make such a fuss about his name, AT LEAST GET IT RIGHT YOURSELF: AlcindOr

I did the first time. Voice text got me this time.

[exstatic]

We were talking about number one picks in the NBA draft. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was named Lew Alcinder when he was chosen number one. Not really worth overthinking. :lol

You seem overly incensed by the change. I'm just using his name. You're doing the Islam equivalent of dead naming him.

[spurraider21]

You seem overly incensed by the change. I'm just using his name. You're doing the Islam equivalent of dead naming him.
:lmao

you're the one making a deal out of this

[exstatic]

:lmao

you're the one making a deal out of this

Not the only one who pointed out his error, and he's the one dying on this hill.

[spurraider21]

Not the only one who pointed out his error
true, here is the other guy who pointed it out, after being reminded that he was still named Alcindor at the time he was drafted



You are right, my bad

He converted 1 year before he was drafted but changed his name after he was drafted


and he's the one dying on this hill.


We were talking about number one picks in the NBA draft. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was named Lew Alcinder when he was chosen number one. Not really worth overthinking. :lol
this is "dying on this hill" ?

[exstatic]

true, here is the other guy who pointed it out, after being reminded that he was still named Alcindor at the time he was drafted







this is "dying on this hill" ?

AL is dying on his hill by not simply saying "my bad". There is no former NBA player who is named Lew Alcindor who currently exists. It's not even a valid position to say that was his name when he was drafted. bbref lists the #1 pick of 1969 by Milwaukee as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. No one who isn't anti-Islam calls him Alcindor.

[spurraider21]

AL is dying on his hill by not simply saying "my bad". There is no former NBA player who is named Lew Alcindor who currently exists. It's not even a valid position to say that was his name when he was drafted. bbref lists the #1 pick of 1969 by Milwaukee as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. No one who isn't anti-Islam calls him Alcindor.
wikipedia

https://i.gyazo.com/369a13dc1cfacfa7ee295a66156932ac.jpg

naismith listing the previous winners of NCAA player of the year

https://i.gyazo.com/c2fa18b12a918336060c0de8145d3ab6.png

i probably would have referred to him as jabbar if i had made the post :lol. but you are making a big deal where none exists and then accusing the other guy of being very angry

[playblair]

espn had a full 20 minute segment about victor & his agent saying he did not need to be stronger.......

[Davidicus]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/sports/basketball/nba-con-summer-league.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


The biggest draw for the weekend was a panel discussion with Victor Wembanyama of the San Antonio Spurs and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar moderated by Isiah Thomas

What are the chances we get video / audio of this sometime soon?

[thiste]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/sports/basketball/nba-con-summer-league.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare



What are the chances we get video / audio of this sometime soon?

It was streamed live on YouTube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMO_3h4Tx2Q

[Adam Lambert]

You're doing the Islam equivalent of dead naming him.

AL is dying on his hill by not simply saying "my bad". There is no former NBA player who is named Lew Alcindor who currently exists. It's not even a valid position to say that was his name when he was drafted. bbref lists the #1 pick of 1969 by Milwaukee as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. No one who isn't anti-Islam calls him Alcindor.


You seem overly incensed by the change.

This is the most desperate attempt at having a pointless argument (and projection) I've seen on this forum in a long time, and I usually post in the political forum.

:lol dying on the hill
:lol overly incensed

[Obstructed_View]

This is the most desperate attempt at having a pointless argument (and projection) I've seen on this forum in a long time, and I usually post in the political forum.

:lol dying on the hill
:lol overly incensed
Yeah he's massively overreacting. Lmao deadnaming.

[polandprzem]

espn had a full 20 minute segment about victor & his agent saying he did not need to be stronger.......

:lol

[ace3g]

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[LeBowen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfmMVEe-VU

[CorrectCrusader]

You seem overly incensed by the change. I'm just using his name. You're doing the Islam equivalent of dead naming him.

https://media.tenor.com/YWxBliBkVHAAAAAC/ok-and.gif

[Seventyniner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfmMVEe-VU

It's good to see that Coach Nick noticed something I had seen too: when an opponent shoots, Wemby will often turn to look at the man he's supposed to be boxing out and is turned away from the basket and the ball. That looked so weird to me. Coach Nick put it well when he said that if you're the tallest guy on the court, just go get the ball. Don't take your eyes off it.

Other good points in the video

Wemby shouldn't be setting too many hard screens. He's top heavy and if he sticks his leg out too far smaller defenders will be hitting Wemby's knee with their thigh or butt. Too much of that is very worrying. This is on the coaching staff imo.
Wemby gets out of control sometimes while dribbling with "his noes in front of his toes" as Nick puts it. He will learn as he grows and this is something to clean up.
Wemby is extremely switchable, much more so than most bigs.

[spurraider21]

It's good to see that Coach Nick noticed something I had seen too: when an opponent shoots, Wemby will often turn to look at the man he's supposed to be boxing out and is turned away from the basket and the ball. That looked so weird to me. Coach Nick put it well when he said that if you're the tallest guy on the court, just go get the ball. Don't take your eyes off it.
he's that rare breed that can just chase the ball and no need to box out, as he can literally just reach for the ball without making excessive contact that would draw an over-the-back call. its not like he's charles barkley out there needing to dominate the position to secure the ball.




Other good points in the video

Wemby shouldn't be setting too many hard screens. He's top heavy and if he sticks his leg out too far smaller defenders will be hitting Wemby's knee with their thigh or butt. Too much of that is very worrying. This is on the coaching staff imo.


on one hand, it looks concerning. but as he also mentions, this is also going to be a ridiculously easy way for him to generate high quality looks/touches. its going to have to be a part of his game, he's just going to have to learn how to set them effectively. might have to get lower. might want to be careful as to what scenarios he sets a truly hard screen, etc. but its going to have to be a big part of his game, imo





Wemby gets out of control sometimes while dribbling with "his noes in front of his toes" as Nick puts it. He will learn as he grows and this is something to clean up.

this is going to be a balancing act for victor if he's going to want to be a ball-handler. usually its tougher to be a ball handler the taller you are, because the dribble gets higher too. wemby compensates for that by trying to lean closer to the floor, but also by utilizing his wingspan, his hands are closer to the ground than a typical 7'4 guy would have. if he doesnt lean low, he risks having too high a dribble to be effective. if he leans over too much, he's going to have balance issues. he will figure out over time what his limits are, and that will dictate how much traffic he can navigate through





Wemby is extremely switchable, much more so than most bigs.


yep. even when it comes to those bigger centers we're worried about, those will only be a problem for him if they have enough time on the shot clock to execute a post up. if he switches onto a big like that with less than 6 seconds on the clock, they're not going to be able to get shots off that easily tbh

[DAF86]

It's good to see that Coach Nick noticed something I had seen too: when an opponent shoots, Wemby will often turn to look at the man he's supposed to be boxing out and is turned away from the basket and the ball. That looked so weird to me. Coach Nick put it well when he said that if you're the tallest guy on the court, just go get the ball. Don't take your eyes off it.

Other good points in the video

Wemby shouldn't be setting too many hard screens. He's top heavy and if he sticks his leg out too far smaller defenders will be hitting Wemby's knee with their thigh or butt. Too much of that is very worrying. This is on the coaching staff imo.
Wemby gets out of control sometimes while dribbling with "his noes in front of his toes" as Nick puts it. He will learn as he grows and this is something to clean up.
Wemby is extremely switchable, much more so than most bigs.


There's no way Wemby won't be setting all kinds of screens. The screen and roll is his most efficient play. You just can't take that out of his arsenal. He just needs to set them in a safe way.

If I were the Spurs, I would hire Scola just to teach him the "Scola screen", which basically is not screening at all. You just show up to the screen, and roll (or pop) a split second before making contact. Scola made a living out of that.

[cutewizard]

Victor should watch the classical centers of the past

Wilt Chamberlain
Bill Russell
Arvydas Sabonis
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Moses Malone
David Robinson
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Hakeem Olajuwon

will learn a lot from them

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1LMU2rZ3XA&t=113s

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8aCCt0aw0&t=376s

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRVJ-ttZb6o

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpJLmxVkrYU

[Seventyniner]

There's no way Wemby won't be setting all kinds of screens. The screen and roll is his most efficient play. You just can't take that out of his arsenal. He just needs to set them in a safe way.

If I were the Spurs, I would hire Scola just to teach him the "Scola screen", which basically is not screening at all. You just show up to the screen, and roll (or pop) a split second before making contact. Scola made a living out of that.

I agree. I didn't mean to say that Wemby shouldn't set screens, just that he has to be smart about how he does it. Taking hard contact to the knees over and over is a recipe for injuries.

[exstatic]

There's no way Wemby won't be setting all kinds of screens. The screen and roll is his most efficient play. You just can't take that out of his arsenal. He just needs to set them in a safe way.

If I were the Spurs, I would hire Scola just to teach him the "Scola screen", which basically is not screening at all. You just show up to the screen, and roll (or pop) a split second before making contact. Scola made a living out of that.

You have to set screens most of the time, or they just play you to slip the screen 100% of the time, and it loses its element of surprise.

[DAF86]

You have to set screens most of the time, or they just play you to slip the screen 100% of the time, and it loses its element of surprise.

Well, of course, I'm obviously not saying he should fake screen everytime. :lol Just have it in your arsenal and use it quite often.

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfmMVEe-VU

Great watch. This guy always does a good job on these videos.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F04yafPXsAEJi70?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[ace3g]

Wemby working out with Myles Turner (From Melvin Sanders' IG)

Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cum7--6gYRi/)

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1679332416014385152

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F07XU97acAIiBVo?format=jpg&name=large

[playblair]

spurs have a megastar.........wembanyama was mentioned by both lil wayne & the espy host in the first 5 minutes of the program.......
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[CorrectCrusader]

spurs have a megastar.........wembanyama was mentioned by both lil wayne & the espy host in the first 5 minutes of the program.......
1679505094587424771

If the spurs don't muck this up they could be media darlings for the next 2 decades

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/KENS5/status/1679558832010174479

[kace]

If I were the Spurs, I would hire Scola just to teach him the "Scola screen", which basically is not screening at all. You just show up to the screen, and roll (or pop) a split second before making contact. Scola made a living out of that.

he already does that a lot, no ? maybe not as well as scola, or as late, but i saw him do that plenty of times.

[ace3g]

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/wembanyama-lands-major-endorsement-deal-18198921.php

[DAF86]

spurs have a megastar.........wembanyama was mentioned by both lil wayne & the espy host in the first 5 minutes of the program.......
1679505094587424771

I love me some Hip-Hop but I will never understand how the fuck this song is a hit, tbh. :lol

[stnick2261]

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/wembanyama-lands-major-endorsement-deal-18198921.php

Dammit... I hate that Wemby endorsing something like this makes me want to try it, specifically because I believe he takes care of his body correctly.

[daslicer]

If the spurs don't muck this up they could be media darlings for the next 2 decades

Spurs will never be media darlings. The media loves Wemby but not the Spurs and will do everything it can to push Wemby out of SA in several years to a bigger market.

[elege]

Yeah, it's already started the way they've been kissing his ass directly and ramping up external drama.

[ambchang]

The admiral was huge back in the day. Never made the spurs media darlings.

[Extra Stout]

Spurs will never be media darlings. The media loves Wemby but not the Spurs and will do everything it can to push Wemby out of SA in several years to a bigger market.
They don’t like Giannis in Milwaukee either.

[daslicer]

I'm not excited about any of these rappers, celebrities, media people repping the Spurs now. I know it's all fake and they are not real fans of the Spurs. The Spurs are the equivalent of that ugly guy who the girls didn't want until he won the lottery. The media is the equivalent of a bunch of whores who now want to use and exploit the Spurs for money. This is a dog and pony show. I see it for what it is, and I will never forget how these phony media guys did everything they could to side with Kawhi and to get him to LA.

I'm excited about having Wemby but the downside is now we have to deal with all these shitty media people who are looking to cause problems. I have never liked Windhorst and now to hear him talking about the Spurs 24/7 is going to suck. These media guys will be working hard the next 7-8 years to create dissension within the organization and to get Wemby out of SA count on it. Fuck these media guys.

[Russ]

Spurs will never be media darlings. The media loves Wemby but not the Spurs and will do everything it can to push Wemby out of SA in several years to a bigger market.

You may be right about that, but maybe not.

The media seems to go out of its way to go on and on about how "perfect" it was that Wemby ended up with the Spurs.

No one seems too mortified.

The media cares about ratings. The more teams that can garner ratings, the better. Big market teams get ratings whether they're good or not. The Spurs have to be good to get those ratings.

So if the Lakers are good and the Spurs are bad, the networks have one "ratings-getting" team to work with.

But if the Lakers are bad and the Spurs are good, the networks have two teams that get ratings that they can work with. Overall, they can count on more highly-rated matchups on the schedule.

Also, Wemby will have some say in whether he wants to leave.

Foreign players seem to stay where they first land in America more than US-born players do.

If this is correct (it just appears that way to me), there may be a reason or two.

The foreign player's first NBA city is pretty much all he knows about America, an unfamiliar (and possibly intimidating) place generally.

That first city might be the place he starts to get familiar with -- it may even begin to feel like home. An argument can be made that that's what happened with Parker and Ginobili (in fact, they still have homes in SA).

The US player, on the other hand, already has at least one or two hometowns before he's even drafted (where he grew up, where he went to college/G League if not his hometown, etc.). That's where his friends are, that's where "the life" he's familiar with is, that's where the unconditional adulation for him likely began (as opposed to his first NBA city and the expectations of fans who may not have that unquestioning allegiance).

At this point, Wemby's decision to stay or leave is a long way off and, hopefully, the Spurs will have all of the above going for them.

If so, we may be in better shape than we think to keep Wemby.

[Mr. Body]

San Antonio is a great place for Wemby. He'll get media attention everywhere he goes but gets to focus on basketball at home. The team in general is more public facing than in the past and overall that's a good thing. Keldon and Sochan in particular are very attractive as personalities.

[tonight...you]

San Antonio is a great place for Wemby. He'll get media attention everywhere he goes but gets to focus on basketball at home. The team in general is more public facing than in the past and overall that's a good thing. Keldon and Sochan in particular are very attractive as personalities.
Excellent point.
I think that is going to be consistently underrated yet noticed point for our said next superstar.

[cutewizard]

Goooooooooooooooo Spurs!

[Obstructed_View]

The worst stretch to be a Spurs fan was when TP was dating/married to that idiot actress.

Britney Spears is just the beginning. The silver lining is that Victor will never leave SA. He'll be happy to be at home and at the practice facility, and he can spend the rest of his free time in France.

[MannyIsGod]

I love me some Hip-Hop but I will never understand how the fuck this song is a hit, tbh. :lol

A Milli is fucking amazing my dude. Easily my favorite Wayne song.

[baseline bum]

A Milli is fucking amazing my dude. Easily my favorite Wayne song.

I gotta go with this one. That third verse about when he shot himself at 13 is wild.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJJiF8QJRc

[cutewizard]

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lag6l-7S2GE&list=PLG9gKlFD44lR-LpqMMcg8EmOQObae_iCA&index=39

[cutewizard]

i hope we could win one more before the End

[scott]

Just remember, as all these celebs start flaunting their Wemby jerseys… that Selena Gomez is the real one.

[scott]

Honestly, playing a handful of games in Austin each year probably helps with the media being a little more friendly to the Spurs.

[playblair]

Honestly, playing a handful of games in Austin each year probably helps with the media being a little more friendly to the Spurs.
first take with stephen a smith would do a show in austin not san antonio........

[Pauleta14]

The worst stretch to be a Spurs fan was when TP was dating/married to that idiot actress.

Britney Spears is just the beginning. The silver lining is that Victor will never leave SA. He'll be happy to be at home and at the practice facility, and he can spend the rest of his free time in France.

You can't be serious

[Obstructed_View]

You can't be serious
The 2006 playoffs. Not even close. But for non-basketball reasons, anything that attracts the outside world is awful. That's the point I was trying to make.

[Sugus]

A Milli is fucking amazing my dude. Easily my favorite Wayne song.

As someone who'd never heard this song before and just went to look it up... Amazing? Really? Very uncreative verses, the flow's alright but not very resourceful. I was surprised by the beat's similarity to, what i believe, is the miles better song by Childish Gambino, Freaks and Geeks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27d138zhyZQ

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F076Ig_WIAcQiU_?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ocotillo]

If you squint, this rendition of Duncan almost looks like Kobe.

[MannyIsGod]

As someone who'd never heard this song before and just went to look it up... Amazing? Really? Very uncreative verses, the flow's alright but not very resourceful. I was surprised by the beat's similarity to, what i believe, is the miles better song by Childish Gambino, Freaks and Geeks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27d138zhyZQ

its legit hard for me to take your critiques too seriously when you had never heard of A Milli. To each their own my dude, but that's a huge song of that era.

[slick'81]

Glen big baby davis calling wemby soft and a baby giraffe:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

As someone who'd never heard this song before and just went to look it up... Amazing? Really? Very uncreative verses, the flow's alright but not very resourceful. I was surprised by the beat's similarity to, what i believe, is the miles better song by Childish Gambino, Freaks and Geeks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27d138zhyZQ

only a dork would say some shit like that

[exstatic]

Glen big baby davis calling wemby soft and a baby giraffe:lmao

https://howigit.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/glen-davis-lying-down.jpg

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/GregJeffersonSA/status/1679918408903557144

[stnick2261]

https://twitter.com/GregJeffersonSA/status/1679918408903557144

And that not even to play basketball.... it's just a zoo enclosure so people can watch him live his life.

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/GregJeffersonSA/status/1679918408903557144

As long as they stick with the hotel/rental car tax, and don’t try a sales tax vote, it should be fine.

[Pauleta14]

The 2006 playoffs. Not even close. But for non-basketball reasons, anything that attracts the outside world is awful. That's the point I was trying to make.

I thought it was later than that tbh

But it wasn't "The worst stretch to be a Spurs fan"

Those still were exciting times as a spurs fan if you compare to PO less seasons for ex

One could even argue it was so ridiculous it was entertaining

[MannyIsGod]

Downtown arena's are the shit. Getting to Capital one is a 15 minute metro ride for me in DC.

[Joseph Kony]

would be nice not to have to drive to a fucking industrial area with zero to do around it to see games. it still baffles me how they ever thought where they decided to put the ATT center was a good spot. our attendance would go way up if it was in an area of town that made sense, not next to some warehouses and a fucking Valero :lol

[MannyIsGod]

It had to be there since it was a county project and thats where the county had land. IIRC the city wanted to build one way out on 35 which honestly would have been worse IMO.

[RC_Drunkford]

Question: How many arenas does the city of San Antonio need? You'd think 2 would be enough :lol

[Obstructed_View]

I thought it was later than that tbh

But it wasn't "The worst stretch to be a Spurs fan"

Those still were exciting times as a spurs fan if you compare to PO less seasons for ex

One could even argue it was so ridiculous it was entertaining
No, I mean the 2006 were seriously the worst.

I was being hyperbolic about the Eva Longoria era. Point is, I'm perfectly happy without the Spurs getting national attention because they all suck.

[Obstructed_View]

Downtown arena's are the shit. Getting to Capital one is a 15 minute metro ride for me in DC.
Parking at the mall to walk to Hemisfair was so amazing.

[exstatic]

would be nice not to have to drive to a fucking industrial area with zero to do around it to see games. it still baffles me how they ever thought where they decided to put the ATT center was a good spot. our attendance would go way up if it was in an area of town that made sense, not next to some warehouses and a fucking Valero :lol

The only vote that would pass was to share SBC with the rodeo and use the hotel rent car tax. Simple pragmatism.

[exstatic]

It had to be there since it was a county project and thats where the county had land. IIRC the city wanted to build one way out on 35 which honestly would have been worse IMO.

They also wanted a sales tax to fund it, which would have never passed. Let the out of towners pay for it.

[cd98]

Can we please pay for a newer and better airport first?

[exstatic]

Can we please pay for a newer and better airport first?

So Wemby can fly away to Los Angeles?

[Obstructed_View]

So Wemby can fly away to Los Angeles?
Make an airport where it's easy to get in and out of town and millionaire players are more likely to sign with you.

[heyheymymy]

I guess this means Victor can play center now?

https://i.redd.it/qkixxe51pubb1.jpg

[Leetonidas]

Fat Wemby looks kinda like Zion :lol

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/SpursCulture/status/1679982884340342785

[baseline bum]

It had to be there since it was a county project and thats where the county had land. IIRC the city wanted to build one way out on 35 which honestly would have been worse IMO.

That was the proposal in 98 but in 99 they wanted to fold in an expansion of the convention center into a downtown arena. Can't remember if they wanted to put the new arena in the parking lot of the Alamodome or where Hemisfair Arena used to be.

[baseline bum]

Downtown arena's are the shit. Getting to Capital one is a 15 minute metro ride for me in DC.

Would kill for a subway system in San Antonio like they have in DC. Ugh if I win the PowerBall I'm hiring full time drivers.

[spurraider21]

Would kill for a subway system in San Antonio like they have in DC. Ugh if I win the PowerBall I'm hiring full time drivers.
was just in NYC last weekend and man. i'd kill for public transit that comprehensive. eliminates the need for the huge parking infrastructure. thats why in LA, sofi (next to the forum) is in the middle of buttfuck nowhere in inglewood. need space for parking.

going to a stadium in LA is always a fucking shitshow because you have tens of thousands of people looking for parking. and if you are any where near a stadium... you know it, since they have to clear up so much space for parking lots. in NYC you could walk a block from madison square garden and not realize it. spent one evening in brooklyn just walking and was like, oh wow, thats barclays. neat.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2gevhq1G0

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1DDyuaXgAIcpuB?format=jpg&name=large

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2gevhq1G0

Myles Turner mentions working out with Victor


https://youtu.be/UFRmCWJVQhI?t=896

[RC_Drunkford]

Feeding into that hype is what scouts, GMs and other executives expect the Spurs to resist. No one sees Wembanyama playing anything close to the 33 minutes a night that last year’s No. 1 pick and Rookie of the Year, forward Paolo Banchero, averaged for the Orlando Magic. And Wembanyama appears to be on board with that approach, as he independently also announced that he will not play for the French national team in FIBA World Cup competition later this summer in order to focus on preparation for his first NBA season. “The Spurs will presumably work a ton on his body and manage his minutes, not play him in back-to-back games, etcetera, which is smart,” said an Eastern Conference assistant GM. “They’ll handle it right.” (https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/nba-front-office-confidential-the-spurs-plans-for-victor-wembanyama)
– via Ric Bucher @ FoxSports.com (https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/nba-front-office-confidential-the-spurs-plans-for-victor-wembanyama)

[exstatic]

Make an airport where it's easy to get in and out of town and millionaire players are more likely to sign with you.

We’ll always be a node, and not a hub, so 95% of flights will be connecting to a hub, meaning automatic connections. Doesn’t matter where your terminals are, or what they look like, you're second rate.

[ace3g]

Myles Turner mentions working out with Victor


https://youtu.be/UFRmCWJVQhI?t=896

I had posted the video from Melvin Sanders IG page but it doesn't embed so it was just the link. Here is the video:

https://twitter.com/VicWembanyamaFR/status/1679229971925966849

[Sugus]

its legit hard for me to take your critiques too seriously when you had never heard of A Milli. To each their own my dude, but that's a huge song of that era.

No problem, I'm not big into rap, and was actually curious to hear the song after the Wemby shoutout.


only a dork would say some shit like that

Yeah, or someone just not into that style of music... lol

[Obstructed_View]

We’ll always be a node, and not a hub, so 95% of flights will be connecting to a hub, meaning automatic connections. Doesn’t matter where your terminals are, or what they look like, you're second rate.

I don't know if people who make 40 million dollars a year fly commercial.

[Sugus]

1679714489946472450

I wanna come back to this video :lol

[Obstructed_View]

1679714489946472450

I wanna come back to this video :lol
You get paid for engagement on Twitter now. People should learn what not to reply or comment on.

[spurraider21]

How would an eastern conference gm know about the spurs plan to load manage wemby :lol

[SpursFan86]

How would an eastern conference gm know about the spurs plan to load manage wemby :lol

You don’t think the Spurs are going around calling to inform other teams’ GMs about their plans with Victor? :lol

Anyways, based off that article from Timvp a little while back it seems like they won’t be too crazy with the load management stuff which is great. I’m not saying they need to force him to play 80 games for 35 minutes a night, but something like 60-70 games playing 25ish minutes a night would be ideal IMO. Obviously they’ll be cautious with him should any injuries pop up, but to the extent he’s healthy I don’t want to see them resting him every other game or playing him 15-20 minutes a night.

Victor seems to want to gun for ROTY. I think the Spurs realize that and will let him go for it as long as he doesn’t show signs of breaking down.

[JPB]

1679714489946472450

I wanna come back to this video :lol

Even the guy on the right is like "what the fuck is this dude on?"

[spurraider21]

You don’t think the Spurs are going around calling to inform other teams’ GMs about their plans with Victor? :lol

Anyways, based off that article from Timvp a little while back it seems like they won’t be too crazy with the load management stuff which is great. I’m not saying they need to force him to play 80 games for 35 minutes a night, but something like 60-70 games playing 25ish minutes a night would be ideal IMO. Obviously they’ll be cautious with him should any injuries pop up, but to the extent he’s healthy I don’t want to see them resting him every other game or playing him 15-20 minutes a night.

Victor seems to want to gun for ROTY. I think the Spurs realize that and will let him go for it as long as he doesn’t show signs of breaking down.
i don’t think he should sit any games unless he’s actually hurt. I could see managing minutes on a back to back situation and stuff like that. He’s not some old fart that needs random rest games. Yes if he has some ligament soreness or whatever sure give him a night off. But not just for the sake of load management. He’s 19 :lol

[Extra Stout]

How would an eastern conference gm know about the spurs plan to load manage wemby :lol
Because he’s an “insider” lol. It’s a cabal dontcha know.

[Obstructed_View]

Wilt averaged over 48 minutes a game one season playing all 82 games, riding in busses and flying commercial, wearing Chuck Taylors and playing multiple back to back TO BACKS, playing four games in five nights, and having to buy his own food on the road during an era when black people weren't all that loved.

:lol load management.

The Spurs lost in the playoffs more than once because they didn't have the wind to play big minutes. At least they were fresh for the off season.

[exstatic]

I don't know if people who make 40 million dollars a year fly commercial.

Then an improved airport doesn’t matter. Just turn off Wetmore into one of the private hangars, and get on your NetJet.

[barakz21]

was just in NYC last weekend and man. i'd kill for public transit that comprehensive. eliminates the need for the huge parking infrastructure. thats why in LA, sofi (next to the forum) is in the middle of buttfuck nowhere in inglewood. need space for parking.

going to a stadium in LA is always a fucking shitshow because you have tens of thousands of people looking for parking. and if you are any where near a stadium... you know it, since they have to clear up so much space for parking lots. in NYC you could walk a block from madison square garden and not realize it. spent one evening in brooklyn just walking and was like, oh wow, thats barclays. neat.

the subways in NYC can be crazy though. You have literal crazies, you have rats the size of cats. Depending on where you are, you could be dealing with constant scheduled repairs/maintenance/delays. I always to the subway when I moved to NYC years ago, and initially upon coming back a few years later. By this point, I already had a car and lived in Long Island. Still took the subway when going to the city. BUT eventually, it was such a hassle dealing with all that, so now I drive going to the city and now have to
deal with parking lol.

[spurraider21]

the subways in NYC can be crazy though. You have literal crazies, you have rats the size of cats. Depending on where you are, you could be dealing with constant scheduled repairs/maintenance/delays. I always to the subway when I moved to NYC years ago, and initially upon coming back a few years later. By this point, I already had a car and lived in Long Island. Still took the subway when going to the city. BUT eventually, it was such a hassle dealing with all that, so now I drive going to the city and now have to
deal with parking lol.
I was only there for about 4 days. And we were in Manhattan most of the time and otherwise in Brooklyn. Took the subway at least 4-6 times a day. Didn’t have any odd encounters.

Something like 2.5 million people use the nyc metro per day. There will obviously be some incidents. But statistically it’s pretty safe

[CGD]

1679714489946472450

I wanna come back to this video :lol

Wemby should definitely work on his BBIQ by going to play in a meaningless Drew League game later this summer. He should further develop his mental acumen by attempting to block LeBron’s breakaway dunk attempt during said meaningful game. Those efforts will ensure he picks up enough smarts not to injure himself.

[Obstructed_View]

Then an improved airport doesn’t matter. Just turn off Wetmore into one of the private hangars, and get on your NetJet.
I assumed improving the airport would make it easier to get to. The drive was always the worst part.

[Obstructed_View]

the subways in NYC can be crazy though. You have literal crazies, you have rats the size of cats. Depending on where you are, you could be dealing with constant scheduled repairs/maintenance/delays. I always to the subway when I moved to NYC years ago, and initially upon coming back a few years later. By this point, I already had a car and lived in Long Island. Still took the subway when going to the city. BUT eventually, it was such a hassle dealing with all that, so now I drive going to the city and now have to
deal with parking lol.

That's because of the people who run it and live there. I used it 25 years ago and it was clean and safe.

[BatManu20]

Wemby shaved his head. Needs to grow it back asap tbh :lol


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1Icm4qWYAAxAJ6?format=jpg&name=large

[tonight...you]

Wemby shaved his head. Needs to grow it back asap tbh :lol


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1Icm4qWYAAxAJ6?format=jpg&name=large
Kid's looking clean.

[playblair]

Myles Turner mentions working out with Victor


https://youtu.be/UFRmCWJVQhI?t=896
when did myles turner start talking like that.......he was never the type to say the n*gga word.......myles turner used to a well spoken man what the fook happened.......

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ujj1vMigG0

[cutewizard]

CHAMBERLAIN AT CENTER,

WEMBY AND BIRD AT FORWARDS

CURRY AND MJ AT GUARDS


THE ALL TIME EARTH FIRST FIVE

[JPB]

CHAMBERLAIN AT CENTER,

WEMBY AND BIRD AT FORWARDS

CURRY AND MJ AT GUARDS


THE ALL TIME EARTH FIRST FIVE

Gimme Magic over Curry any day.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CfZgpVFFFI

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfmMVEe-VU

[Pauleta14]

CHAMBERLAIN AT CENTER,

WEMBY AND BIRD AT FORWARDS

CURRY AND MJ AT GUARDS


THE ALL TIME EARTH FIRST FIVE

Curry??!!?

Man this era overrates sooooo much

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Curry??!!?

Man this era overrates sooooo much
the most overrated era is the 90s

[Obstructed_View]

Curry:lol

[DAF86]

Gimme Magic over Curry any day.


Curry??!!?

Man this era overrates sooooo much


Curry:lol

Look at these guys, acting as if Curry isn't the most dominant PG of all-time.

Imagine preferring a no-shooting, no-defense playing PG only becuase he made flashy passes over a guy that impacts games just by standing there. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Curry is the greatest shooter ever. He isn't close to the most dominant PG of all time. A player is a shooter when his game is predicated on whether or not his jumper is falling.

[exstatic]

If you’re picking an All Time starting 5, you have to pick which era’s rules are in effect. If you’re playing current rules, you have to pick Curry.

[DAF86]

Curry is the greatest shooter ever. He isn't close to the most dominant PG of all time. A player is a shooter when his game is predicated on whether or not his jumper is falling.

He is, though. Stats prove that no other player in his position impacted winning as much as Curry. You can spare me with all the other semantic talk about what or what isn't a PG. He's listed as one, he guards opposing PGs, he brings the ball up and does more of the ball-handling and playmaking for his team.

[KDKSpurs24]

Curry is the greatest shooter ever. He isn't close to the most dominant PG of all time. A player is a shooter when his game is predicated on whether or not his jumper is falling.

No.. it’s not about whether his jumper is falling or not. He has so much gravity. He creates so much space for his teammates just by existing! That contributes hugely to his team success because he takes tremendous pressure off of his team just by being on the court. That’s worth so much. So your statement just isn’t accurate at all.

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CfZgpVFFFI

At 6:54 she says Wemby played 44 games across all competitions. That is false. He played 44 games solely for LNB Pro A (34 regular season games, 10 playoff games). All in all here's all the games I could gather:

44 - LNB Pro A
4 - French National Team
2 - G-League Ignite showcase
2 - NBA Summer League
1 - French Cup
1 - Leaders Cup
1 - LNB All Star Game

That's 55 total. For those who have followed Wemby's season closely, am I missing any game?

Anyway, I don't think playing 65 games is such a stretch from playing 55 the previous season.

[spurraider21]

Magic would be Ben Simmons without defense in todays nba tbh

[Extra Stout]

I think Steph had a higher peak than Magic, but that Magic had a better career. Steph’s best year was when they went 73-9 but lost the Finals.

People forget that a Lakers team with Kareem, Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, and Adrian Dantley couldn’t get over the hump until Magic showed up, and then… instant dynasty.

As an aside, LeBron’s ‘13 and ‘16 titles were extremely impressive given the competition.

[baseline bum]

People forget that a Lakers team with Kareem, Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, and Adrian Dantley couldn’t get over the hump until Magic showed up, and then… instant dynasty.


True, Kareem is so fucking overrated. Only led the Lakers to 50 wins once before getting Magic and even that lone 53 win season he got the broom from Walton in the playoffs despite having homecourt. Kareem had Gail Goodrich too. And had Bob Dandridge on his Bucks team he couldn't take to a .500 record once Oscar retired. Magic was so much better a player than Kareem.

[baseline bum]

Wemby shaved his head. Needs to grow it back asap tbh :lol


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1Icm4qWYAAxAJ6?format=jpg&name=large

Too fucking hot to be having hair in San Antonio this summer.

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No.. it’s not about whether his jumper is falling or not. He has so much gravity. He creates so much space for his teammates just by existing! That contributes hugely to his team success because he takes tremendous pressure off of his team just by being on the court. That’s worth so much. So your statement just isn’t accurate at all.
If that were the case, his team would win when his jumper wasn't going in. He was surrounded by hall of fame players and still needed yet another hall of famer to win. Great jump shooter, but still just a jump shooter.

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If you’re picking an All Time starting 5, you have to pick which era’s rules are in effect. If you’re playing current rules, you have to pick Curry.
If you're playing current rules, every great player from older eras will feast because you can't play defense anymore. Jordan would average 45 and Bird would average 38. The last thing you want on a team of great players is someone jacking it up from 35 feet out.

[JPB]

Prefering Curry at Magic, cos NuMbeRS!

Some people clearly never saw Magic play, to sum up his play at "flashy passes". You don't dominate the NBA with flashy passes, ask Jayson Williams.

Can Curry post? Can Curry play at center? Does Curry has the sky Hook? Curry is the best shooter of all time but not even close to the best PG. As being, mentioned, if his shoot ain't falling, he's just any PG out there. Magic was positionless basketball before it was a thing. his transition game was the most devastating ever. he was just not playing in a era where BB has become a 3 pt contest.

And lol at saying that the 90s is the most overrated era... There was like 2 future HOFers on any team and talent all over the NBA... Jordan, Barkley, Olajuwon, Pippen, Robinson, Drexler, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, Alonzo Mourning, Shaq, Isaiah Thomas, Dumars, Grant Hll, Tim Hardaway, Mullin, Kemp, Gary Payton, Richmond...

these players made the NBA popular world wide... you were watching games for them... We ARE living in the worst NBA era. Drive and kick, drive and kick... for a 3. the NBA was much more entertaining then, it's much more boring now with much less talent.

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it's much more boring now with much less talent.
Call me crazy, but I loved defense. Give me a 82-77 game every time. Chess over checkers.

[Extra Stout]

Purists and Spurs fans love the low scoring. Casual fans loved the 115-110 games in the 1980’s. They tolerated the clamp-down defense and 87-75 scores in the 1990’s as long as Jordan was involved. Once he was gone, they stopped watching.

The Spurs played the perfect game for the 2000’s era. They could run with the Suns or grind it out with the Pistons. But international stars playing 82-77 games meant 6.3 Finals ratings. Even the first edition of the Beautiful Game Spurs in 2013 with all that offense was still playing lots of playoff games with scores in the 90s.

The NBA has had to keep ratcheting the restrictions on defense because defenses have kept getting more sophisticated. This is what it took to get back to the scoring levels of the 1980’s. They’ve taken it too far now — there are too many games in the 130’s. But the casual fans have kept tuning in. Neither Denver nor Miami is an ‘it’ team but the Finals ratings were decent.

[Alain]

At 6:54 she says Wemby played 44 games across all competitions. That is false. He played 44 games solely for LNB Pro A (34 regular season games, 10 playoff games). All in all here's all the games I could gather:

44 - LNB Pro A
4 - French National Team
2 - G-League Ignite showcase
2 - NBA Summer League
1 - French Cup
1 - Leaders Cup
1 - LNB All Star Game

That's 55 total. For those who have followed Wemby's season closely, am I missing any game?

Anyway, I don't think playing 65 games is such a stretch from playing 55 the previous season.


55 games, but in 9 months. NBA regular season is 7 months long...

[Extra Stout]

55 games, but in 9 months. NBA regular season is 7 months long...
Many rookies hit a wall. It takes a year for conditioning to catch up.

[DAF86]

Prefering Curry at Magic, cos NuMbeRS!

Some people clearly never saw Magic play, to sum up his play at "flashy passes". You don't dominate the NBA with flashy passes, ask Jayson Williams.

Can Curry post? Can Curry play at center? Does Curry has the sky Hook? Curry is the best shooter of all time but not even close to the best PG. As being, mentioned, if his shoot ain't falling, he's just any PG out there. Magic was positionless basketball before it was a thing. his transition game was the most devastating ever. he was just not playing in a era where BB has become a 3 pt contest.

And lol at saying that the 90s is the most overrated era... There was like 2 future HOFers on any team and talent all over the NBA... Jordan, Barkley, Olajuwon, Pippen, Robinson, Drexler, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, Alonzo Mourning, Shaq, Isaiah Thomas, Dumars, Grant Hll, Tim Hardaway, Mullin, Kemp, Gary Payton, Richmond...

these players made the NBA popular world wide... you were watching games for them... We ARE living in the worst NBA era. Drive and kick, drive and kick... for a 3. the NBA was much more entertaining then, it's much more boring now with much less talent.

You can pick whomever you want, but to act as if Curry isn't in the same level as Magic is just ignorant.

[TD 21]

Johnson and Curry shouldn't be directly compared because of some silly label.

I stand to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure Nixon, Cooper and Scott primarily defended PG's throughout Johnson's career, yet somehow he's a "PG" and James is a "SF"?

Curry's true title is greatest small guard of all time, ahead of Paul and Stockton.

Still, he's joined Bryant as the most coddled/mythologized player in league history because he/Warriors have played the media game, he's non threatening to whites (which is why he receives a free pass for his antics) and casuals/kids alike find his style entertaining.

The reality is, he hasn't won anything notable without unprecedented opponent injury luck/Durant.

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I think Steph had a higher peak than Magic, but that Magic had a better career. Steph’s best year was when they went 73-9 but lost the Finals.

People forget that a Lakers team with Kareem, Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, and Adrian Dantley couldn’t get over the hump until Magic showed up, and then… instant dynasty.

As an aside, LeBron’s ‘13 and ‘16 titles were extremely impressive given the competition.
Put Magic on any of those warrior teams instead of Curry. They win as many titles or more IMO.

[DAF86]

Put Magic on any of those warrior teams instead of Curry. They win as many titles or more IMO.

That's just nonesense. That team was entirely built around Curry's shooting. Exchange him for Magic and the Warriors become a completely different team and I really doubt a good enough one to win more than 4 championships. In fact, I don't see a core of Magic, Klay and Draymond winning any championship, tbh.

Now, Curry on a team with Kareem, Worthy, Byron Scott, Ac Green, Michael Cooper. That's definitely a championship team.

[JPB]

Magic Johnson career triple double games: 138
Steph Curry career triple double games: 13

Only flashy passes, righ?. I mean, sure if you only watch YT highlights.

Somebody tells me again who is the most complete player? I mean no one who knows BB history put Curry over Magic, absolutely nobody. Magic is legend, he is BB, Curry is a great shooter in a team that indeed had a lot of luck and for whom time won't be as friendly that it is still with Johnson.

[slick'81]

Magic Johnson career triple double games: 138
Steph Curry career triple double games: 13

Somebody tells me again who is the most complete player? I mean no one who knows BB history put Curry over Magic, absolutely nobody. Magic is legend, he is BB, Curry is a great shooter in a team that indeed had a lot of luck and for whom time won't be as friendly that it is still with Johnson.


its all hersay and opinions

[JPB]

its all hersay and opinions

Magic is BB Olympus with MJ, Bird, Chamberlain and co. Curry is watching from under... He's an intruder at their table.

[DAF86]

Magic Johnson career triple double games: 138
Steph Curry career triple double games: 13

Only flashy passes, righ?. I mean, sure if you only watch YT highlights.

Somebody tells me again who is the most complete player? I mean no one who knows BB history put Curry over Magic, absolutely nobody. Magic is legend, he is BB, Curry is a great shooter in a team that indeed had a lot of luck and for whom time won't be as friendly that it is still with Johnson.

Dude, are you Magic's lover or something? :lol

Curry is, objectively, a more impactful player than Magic. Metrics indicate so. I'm not saying to base everything on advanced metrics, but for sure is a more worthy stat than numbers of triples doubles, tbh. Westbrook is the king of triple doubles, I imagine he's the GOAT for you. :lol

Like I said earlier, you can prefer Magic over Curry, but to act like it isn't even a discussion is ignorant.

[PhantomDashCam]

Hall of Famer Jerry West names special quality about Victor Wembanyama

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2023/07/14/spurs-victor-wembanyama-jerry-west-interview/



He is unbelievably polished. After his first game I saw him play in the summer league, I would say I went there and, maybe because of all of the hype, was expecting to see a little bit more. He gets up with the writers afterward and how many times do you see an athlete say: ‘I didn’t play my best game. I think I’m going to get better going forward.’

It is hard to get some honest answers from players today … but he got up and said: ‘I’m going to get better going forward.’ He is fun (and) has got a smile on his face. But the way he’ll represent not only the Spurs but the league, to me, is what is going to make him really special besides his ability.

[JPB]

Dude, are you Magic's lover or something? :lol

Curry is, objectively, a more impactful player than Magic. Metrics indicate so. I'm not saying to base everything on advanced metrics, but for sure is a more worthy stat than numbers of triples doubles, tbh. Westbrook is the king of triple doubles, I imagine he's the GOAT for you. :lol

Like I said earlier, you can prefer Magic over Curry, but to act like it isn't even a discussion is ignorant.

What is ignorant is using metrics to compare different eras. And not understand Magic was precisely piling up the trip dubs while winning chips... It was efficient BB.
Again, nobody who knows BB put Curry in NBA history, like no freaking body... Ask people who really saw both play and everyone pick Magic as their PG. You're correct, that's not even a debate. Put both players in the other's era and Curry is a random shooter while Magic is still a superstar. And for good reasons... Talent.

Curry is a fantastic shooter but is limited in all other areas, he's pretty monolithic...There's one mlilion things Mgic was doing Curry couldn't, if only because of Magic size and strentgh. I mean comparig a legend who could play 1 to 5 and was piling up trip dubs while winning titles to... a shooter shewing his stuff... *There's an alternate reality where Curry only has one title. And it's not like it's 1. Magic 2. curry. Not a PG but Bird was ofc above Curry as a player.

Not to mention players' aura, charisma and star power.. Eveybody loved Magic, for the uber talented player he was and how he was owning the game...I mean he had 10 Currys in every finger... No one will really talk about Steph in 10 years other than for the great shooter he was. He's pretty boring for that matter. Poeple sill remember Magic for his unique talent, and how he made people love BB all over the world... Curry has more haters than lovers.
Organize a dinner for ultimate NBA legends and Curry is not invited.

And yes, ofc I love Magic, everybody does, starting by Jordan who idolized him. Everybody wanted to be Magic as a player. Kids for sure but players in high scholl or College today don't idolize and all dream of being Steph.

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Dude, are you Magic's lover or something? :lol

Curry is, objectively, a more impactful player than Magic. Metrics indicate so. I'm not saying to base everything on advanced metrics, but for sure is a more worthy stat than numbers of triples doubles, tbh. Westbrook is the king of triple doubles, I imagine he's the GOAT for you. :lol

Like I said earlier, you can prefer Magic over Curry, but to act like it isn't even a discussion is ignorant.
It isn't even a discussion. Magic is a top player all time. Curry is a top role player all time.

[RC_Drunkford]

Thread title: The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

Spurstalk: Curry is better than Magic!! Curry is not a PG!!! Magic is better!!!

:lol

[DAF86]

What is ignorant is using metrics to compare different eras. And not understand Magic was precisely piling up the trip dubs while winning chips... It was efficient BB.
Again, nobody who knows BB put Curry in NBA history, like no freaking body... Ask people who really saw both play and everyone pick Magic as their PG. You're correct, that's not even a debate. Put both players in the other's era and Curry is a random shooter while Magic is still a superstar. And for good reasons... Talent.

Curry is a fantastic shooter but is limited in all other areas, he's pretty monolithic...There's one mlilion things Mgic was doing Curry couldn't, if only because of Magic size and strentgh. I mean comparig a legend who could play 1 to 5 and was piling up trip dubs while winning titles to... a shooter shewing his stuff... *There's an alternate reality where Curry only has one title. And it's not like it's 1. Magic 2. curry. Not a PG but Bird was ofc above Curry as a player.

Not to mention players' aura, charisma and star power.. Eveybody loved Magic, for the uber talented player he was and how he was owning the game...I mean he had 10 Currys in every finger... No one will really talk about Steph in 10 years other than for the great shooter he was. He's pretty boring for that matter. Poeple sill remember Magic for his unique talent, and how he made people love BB all over the world... Curry has more haters than lovers.
Organize a dinner for ultimate NBA legends and Curry is not invited.

And yes, ofc I love Magic, everybody does, starting by Jordan who idolized him. Everybody wanted to be Magic as a player. Kids for sure but players in high scholl or College today don't idolize and all dream of being Steph.

You are too much of a fanboy to be objective about this, tbh.

[daslicer]

Johnson and Curry shouldn't be directly compared because of some silly label.

I stand to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure Nixon, Cooper and Scott primarily defended PG's throughout Johnson's career, yet somehow he's a "PG" and James is a "SF"?

Curry's true title is greatest small guard of all time, ahead of Paul and Stockton.

Still, he's joined Bryant as the most coddled/mythologized player in league history because he/Warriors have played the media game, he's non threatening to whites (which is why he receives a free pass for his antics) and casuals/kids alike find his style entertaining.

The reality is, he hasn't won anything notable without unprecedented opponent injury luck/Durant.

Agreed with this 100 percent. It also helps that he literally looks like he's 10 years old that when he does his antics like you said he's given a pass by whites.

[KobesAchilles]

Interesting debate between Magic and Steph. It’s all centered around the idea that Magic wouldn’t be able to survive todays game bc he can’t shoot the 3. Tbh Magic had many flaws on defense for opposing guards to take advantage of but in a series, the Lakers could easily match him on Draymond. Speaking of Draymond, he is about half of what Magic is offensively and is still vital for the Warriors to operate

Magic would be fine in this era. He was a true basketball player that could adapt to the game. If you needed fast break tempo, put magic in. If you want half court offense running to perfection, put Magic in. If you want tough physical play, Magic was perfect for it. And if you wanted the opposite, Magic was perfect for it

The only offense Magic couldn’t run is the one Curry plays. And that’s what makes this so fascinating. Teams guard Curry 35 feet away from the basket. It’s never been done before him. When KD was on Golden St, the cavs literal game plan was all focused on Steph, (this is from multiple sources) and they didn’t give a fuck about KD. Hell the infamous KD finals play where he stole the pass and ran the length of the court to dunk was made possible by Steph running with him and the cavs players literally went from guarding KD to both running to Steph at the 3 point line :lol

Calling Steph a role player is stupid. He’s a 2x mvp and multiple first time all nba teamer. We’ve never seen anything like him and if I was starting a team, I would choose Steph over Magic. Magic couldn’t guard quick guards and Steph wouldn’t be able to guard Magic, but trading 3 for 2 sounds good to me. All time though career though? Magic is clearly ahead. It’s not even close

[TrainOfThought5]

Purists and Spurs fans love the low scoring. Casual fans loved the 115-110 games in the 1980’s. They tolerated the clamp-down defense and 87-75 scores in the 1990’s as long as Jordan was involved. Once he was gone, they stopped watching.

The Spurs played the perfect game for the 2000’s era. They could run with the Suns or grind it out with the Pistons. But international stars playing 82-77 games meant 6.3 Finals ratings. Even the first edition of the Beautiful Game Spurs in 2013 with all that offense was still playing lots of playoff games with scores in the 90s.

The NBA has had to keep ratcheting the restrictions on defense because defenses have kept getting more sophisticated. This is what it took to get back to the scoring levels of the 1980’s. They’ve taken it too far now — there are too many games in the 130’s. But the casual fans have kept tuning in. Neither Denver nor Miami is an ‘it’ team but the Finals ratings were decent.

there is truth to this, but it’s lacking the context of the death of the dominant post big man, and the proliferation of the 3 ball.

[MultiTroll]

Chet and Wama facing similar challenges when driving into traffic with NBA sorta level defenses.

He's a threat attacking closeouts but acknowledges that he's gotten himself into trouble this summer (11 turnovers) by driving into crowds too often.
"I've just got to get a feel again for when I should [attack off the dribble] and when I should get off the ball and make a play elsewhere," said Holmgren, who has averaged 13.7 points and 10.0 rebounds in the three games. "We have a great group of guys with a lot of different talents, and I feel like I can complement a lot of these dudes, and these dudes complement me as well."

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Curry:lol

[tonight...you]

Chet and Wama facing similar challenges when driving into traffic with NBA sorta level defenses.

He's a threat attacking closeouts but acknowledges that he's gotten himself into trouble this summer (11 turnovers) by driving into crowds too often.
"I've just got to get a feel again for when I should [attack off the dribble] and when I should get off the ball and make a play elsewhere," said Holmgren, who has averaged 13.7 points and 10.0 rebounds in the three games. "We have a great group of guys with a lot of different talents, and I feel like I can complement a lot of these dudes, and these dudes complement me as well."
"A man must know his limitations" - Clint

What a cool name... Clint. Who would think of that?

[TrainOfThought5]

Johnson and Curry shouldn't be directly compared because of some silly label.

I stand to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure Nixon, Cooper and Scott primarily defended PG's throughout Johnson's career, yet somehow he's a "PG" and James is a "SF"?

Curry's true title is greatest small guard of all time, ahead of Paul and Stockton.

Still, he's joined Bryant as the most coddled/mythologized player in league history because he/Warriors have played the media game, he's non threatening to whites (which is why he receives a free pass for his antics) and casuals/kids alike find his style entertaining.

The reality is, he hasn't won anything notable without unprecedented opponent injury luck/Durant.

you’ve got a point in regards to the circumstances of his rings, but NO athlete has control opponent injuries, and most have very little say in who their “help” is. It’s always championship or bust, and Curry has won it 4 times. Circumstances be damned

[daslicer]

Magic would have been fine in the current NBA. A lot of people are arguing he wouldn't have succeeded due to not having a 3-point shot but if you look at the year where he won his last MVP in 1990, he shot 38 percent from 3. I think Magic would have been able to shoot around 35-36 percent consistently from 3 which would have been good enough to succeed in this era.

[Extra Stout]

I need to hear Victor chime in on this Magic vs. Curry debate

[DAF86]

Magic would have been fine in the current NBA. A lot of people are arguing he wouldn't have succeeded due to not having a 3-point shot but if you look at the year where he won his last MVP in 1990, he shot 38 percent from 3. I think Magic would have been able to shoot around 35-36 percent consistently from 3 which would have been good enough to succeed in this era.

I've literally read no person on this thread arguing that.

[DAF86]

To keep the train off the rails, I think my all-time 5 would be something like this:

Curry, MJ, Lebron, Durant, Timmy

That lineup has it all: shooting, size, IQ, defense.

[thiste]

To keep the train off the rails, I think my all-time 5 would be something like this:

Curry, MJ, Lebron, Durant, Timmy

That lineup has it all: shooting, size, IQ, defense.

Who's guarding prime Shaq?

[Extra Stout]

Who would Wemby put in his all time top 5

[slick'81]

Who would Wemby put in his all time top 5


nobody until he gets on an nba floor

[Pauleta14]

Who's guarding prime Shaq?

The FT line

[lefty]

If you squint, this rendition of Duncan almost looks like Kobe.

Can’t unsee it now

[lefty]

Magic would have been fine in the current NBA. A lot of people are arguing he wouldn't have succeeded due to not having a 3-point shot but if you look at the year where he won his last MVP in 1990, he shot 38 percent from 3. I think Magic would have been able to shoot around 35-36 percent consistently from 3 which would have been good enough to succeed in this era.

Magic would have pulled a hammy on every defensive possession, his defensive footwork wasn’t good either, with the constant switching and more ground to cover quickly his teams would play 4 vs 5 on defense

Offensively he benefited from playing smaller guards
But taller players who were good defensively really bothered him (Rodman, Pippen)
He wouldn’t be guarded by small unathletic players today

[TD 21]

you’ve got a point in regards to the circumstances of his rings, but NO athlete has control opponent injuries, and most have very little say in who their “help” is. It’s always championship or bust, and Curry has won it 4 times. Circumstances be damned

Obviously, but when you benefit from it to an unprecedented degree, it significantly diminishes the accomplishments.

Wrong. Players of Curry's magnitude have an enormous say in whether what was then one of the two definitively better players in the league than him sign with his team. Ultimately, Durant deserves the most criticism for the gutless move, but so to do the Warriors core for not wanting to compete and earn their championships.

[redman112]

:rollin

[redman112]

The FT line
:rollin

[DAF86]

Who's guarding prime Shaq?

Timmy, one of the greatest defenders of all-time.

[spurraider21]

:lol as if there is some long list of centers who successfully neutralized prime shaq 1 on 1

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I need to hear Victor chime in on this Magic vs. Curry debate
That would certainly steer this thread back onto the rails.

[tonight...you]

Timmy, one of the greatest defenders of all-time.
I always thought Tim defended Shaq better than Dave.
Maybe it was the lower center of gravity that helped keep Shaq from pushing his big butt down low towards the basket as easily.

[Extra Stout]

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/victor-wembanyama-haircut-18204760.php

[SpursFan86]

Why are we discussing Magic vs. Steph for multiple pages in a thread about Victor? I know it’s the off-season but damn :lol

[taps]

Wemby shaved his head. Needs to grow it back asap tbh :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1Icm4qWYAAxAJ6?format=jpg&name=large

Can the organization please get this man a long sleeve that fits? It looks like the Spurs are just grabbing shirts off the racks at Academy.

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I always thought Tim defended Shaq better than Dave.
Maybe it was the lower center of gravity that helped keep Shaq from pushing his big butt down low towards the basket as easily.
Robinson dominated Shaq head to head prior to his back injury.

[tonight...you]

Robinson dominated Shaq head to head prior to his back injury.
You're probably right. My memory is a little fuzzy on that, I guess.

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You're probably right. My memory is a little fuzzy on that, I guess.

I think you said "prime Shaq" and he and Robinson never matched up. It shows how good a defender prime Timmy was.

[thiste]

:lol as if there is some long list of centers who successfully neutralized prime shaq 1 on 1

Sorry but Duncan couldn't guard Prime Shaq. Prime Wilt might have done it.

[thiste]

Can the organization please get this man a long sleeve that fits? It looks like the Spurs are just grabbing shirts off the racks at Academy.

Not enough fabric in the World.

[Obstructed_View]

Sorry but Duncan couldn't guard Prime Shaq. Prime Wilt might have done it.
Except that he did.