The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[thiste]

Also I'm getting my wish of seeing Cason Wallace play with Victor finally, too bad it's only for one day...

And consequently, Brandon Miller is also getting his wish of playing with Victor :lol

[DAF86]

https://twitter.com/RealPjHoops/status/1754993189780369471

Team Pau seems pretty well balanced with a little bit of everything and hustlers as well, only one sophomore though (Jabari) and only one true Center with Vic.

The size of team Jalen with Kessler/Lively/Holmgren might be a problem.

Video of the draft:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJqK6PWEzpE

Pau picked first and he picked Victor OF COURSE :lol

I love how there's an actual all-star in the draft yet everyone knew the first pick was gonna be Victor. :lol

[DAF86]

Also, I didn't know the rising challenge had this format. The all-star game should adopt it too. 4 teams of 6 players, play two semis of 10/12 minutes, a third place game, and the final. You get the same playing time of a game, but it is a tournament of short matches that will keep the viewers (and the players) engaged throughout.


It is actually such a good format that I don't know why they haven't implement it yet, specially after having thought of it for the rookies and sophomores.

[mudyez]

Interestingly Bill Simmons has Wemby at #4 in his trade value ranking (behind Nikola, Giannis and Luca...and thought about putting him 3rd) while really praising him for his play lately and saying that the 4th place probably is as low as he will finish for the next 10 years.

After calling Chet the ROTY for quite some time, he obviously realizes that it's Wembys and only Wembys.

[exstatic]

Interestingly Bill Simmons has Wemby at #4 in his trade value ranking (behind Nikola, Giannis and Luca...and thought about putting him 3rd) while really praising him for his play lately and saying that the 4th place probably is as low as he will finish for the next 10 years.

After calling Chet the ROTY for quite some time, he obviously realizes that it's Wembys and only Wembys.

Bill’s just salty because the Spurs got the Golden Child, again,for the third time.

[barakz21]

Bill’s just salty because the Spurs got the Golden Child, again,for the third time.

Third time? Who was the other one? I know Timmy’s one, since the Celts tanked real hard for him only to get 3rd or 4th (can’t remember which one). Automatically, I’d think DRob since he was the only other #1 pick for them, but the Celts weren’t in play for the #1 pick during 87, no?

[CorrectCrusader]

Third time? Who was the other one? I know Timmy’s one, since the Celts tanked real hard for him only to get 3rd or 4th (can’t remember which one). Automatically, I’d think DRob since he was the only other #1 pick for them, but the Celts weren’t in play for the #1 pick during 87, no?

DRob.

[spurraider21]

Why is Wiggins on his list? Feels like a negative asset right now tbh

he really thinks 1 for 1 wiggins has more trade value than Jalen Johnson, Keegan Murray, Devin Vassell, Jabari Smith, Mathurin, Ivey, Randle, etc

im barely down the list and that’s already just wild to me

[spurraider21]

LOL i like Reaves but he has Reaves ahead of trae young, dejounte Murray, Scottie barnes, and Tyrese maxey

[spurraider21]

Walker Kessler ahead of Chet. Josh Giddey #22? Am i missing something?

that list is probably less useful than a random number generator

[exstatic]

Third time? Who was the other one? I know Timmy’s one, since the Celts tanked real hard for him only to get 3rd or 4th (can’t remember which one). Automatically, I’d think DRob since he was the only other #1 pick for them, but the Celts weren’t in play for the #1 pick during 87, no?
Boston wasn’t in contention for Wemby, either, so I’m not sure how hard it is to draw the conclusion that the first one was DRob.

[exstatic]

Walker Kessler ahead of Chet. Josh Giddey #22? Am i missing something?

that list is probably less useful than a random number generator

Giddey’s been in a tail spin that started before molesting that girl. His numbers are down across the board.

[Pauleta14]

Simmons also ended with "it's probably the lowest Wemby will ever be in the ranking..."

not sure about the hate

[baseline bum]

I love how there's an actual all-star in the draft yet everyone knew the first pick was gonna be Victor. :lol

Though I can't imagine Victor not making the AS team if he was in the East. I wish Seattle and Las Vegas would hurry up and join the league so the Spurs could be moved back to the East like they were in the 70s. :lol

Then again I guess Silver would hate to see Thunder vs Spurs Finals in say 4 years

[spurraider21]

Though I can't imagine Victor not making the AS team if he was in the East. I wish Seattle and Las Vegas would hurry up and join the league so the Spurs could be moved back to the East like they were in the 70s. :lol

Then again I guess Silver would hate to see Thunder vs Spurs Finals in say 4 years
chet vs wemby? would be epic

[Ocotillo]

chet vs wemby? would be epic

Wemby seems to take it personal when he goes head to head with Chet.

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pew4IK6QPc

[scott]

1755662981503889487

[spurraider21]

his shotblocking has slowed down. could be in part due to him hitting the wall and being a little less springy out there. could also be people just challenging him way less.

[Jordan Jackson]

his shotblocking has slowed down. could be in part due to him hitting the wall and being a little less springy out there. could also be people just challenging him way less.

offense is avoiding him - unfortunately he doesn’t get the statistical credit for it. Too bad his goofy teammates don’t take advantage of it.

[Pauleta14]

He's going to have the "deon Sanders" effect during his career

He won't put high numbers bc players will avoid him

[spurraider21]

the guy from thinking basketball

1756055042338230425

[mudyez]

the guy from thinking basketball

1756055042338230425

Who needs porn to jerk of, if you can listen to this? (Just got to avoid the Chet love...like an up close dick shot)

[spurraider21]

Who needs porn to jerk of, if you can listen to this? (Just got to avoid the Chet love...like an up close dick shot)
Bend over, I’ll show you an up close dick shot

[Tyronn Lue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pew4IK6QPc
If you're going to report on the 1st overall pick phenom, please learn to pronounce his name.

[Tyronn Lue]

He's going to have the "deon Sanders" effect during his career

He won't put high numbers bc players will avoid him
I'll never forget how Steph Curry avoided shooting in the paint and instead passing the ball out because Victor was lurking. That's a massive presence to cause one of the best paint finishers in the game to think twice.

[exstatic]

If you're going to report on the 1st overall pick phenom, please learn to pronounce his name.

Right? Reggie Miller mispronounced it every time.

[RC_Drunkford]

Y'all americans can't pronounce anything right. I mean y'all pronounce "homage" like Ho-Match :lol

[CorrectCrusader]

I'll never forget how Steph Curry avoided shooting in the paint and instead passing the ball out because Victor was lurking. That's a massive presence to cause one of the best paint finishers in the game to think twice.

It's insane, it's why Chet has faced over double the shots against him than Victor has, even though minutes played is pretty similar

[baseline bum]

It's insane, it's why Chet has faced over double the shots against him than Victor has, even though minutes played is pretty similar

Nice. Where'd you get that stat?

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpK2NDuMWQ

[CorrectCrusader]

Nice. Where'd you get that stat?

A few weeks ago during pregame, the announcer when bill isn't there gave the stat. Idk where to find it outside of that

[itzsoweezee]

Was this already posted: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1yBoQIkZGTKCYAHXIBEA3T?si=JWUDRSVpS_qmYpe3v5RcBw&context=spotify%3Acollection%3Apodcasts%3Aepisodes

Good shit about wemby and future GOAT prospects

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BallySportsSA/status/1757213894316061080

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1757214134678995060

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1757233617099481269

[Tyronn Lue]

That stretch Armstrong dunk was alien as fuck

[CorrectCrusader]

https://twitter.com/BallySportsSA/status/1757213894316061080

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1757214134678995060

This dudes reaction lmao

https://i.imgur.com/ljpRPLb.png

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1757236220915069275

:lol

[ace3g]

C3RXvBft1H1

[ace3g]

C3RaMSEtgrt

[thiste]

I'm trying to find the last time a player's had a triple double with assists AND a triple double with blocks in the same season. Not so easy to find that stat.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGMCrHlX0AA07UC?format=jpg&name=large

[tbdog]

Pop 100% let Wemby chase that triple double. He played longer in the 4th there and got pulled straight after.

[lefty]

Good stuff, interview with Wemby’s trainer



https://youtu.be/NoprLRln4kA?si=quTMIDxZmyBHzNoA

[Seventyniner]

Wasn't Victor +2500 in the off-season to lead the league in blocks? Damn why didn't I drop a hundred on that.

[barakz21]

Lmao love Wemby’s reaction on getting that 10th block. It’s like he couldn’t believe it. I guess, as a 20 year old professional, he’s still also just a kid at heart. And that’s good for him to have moments like this, especially after that Nets game. Sucked they were doing an overrated chant, thankfully he managed to shut them down and make them believers somewhat.

[EmantheSpursFan]

Thanks for sharing!

[thiste]

I'm trying to find the last time a player's had a triple double with assists AND a triple double with blocks in the same season. Not so easy to find that stat.

So I compiled the stats and found this :

Victor Wembanyama is the first rookie to record at least a triple double with assists and another one with blocks in NBA history.

Others have done it but they were at least in their 5th season in the league. Full stats :

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (x3)(1973/74, 1975/76, 1978/79) drafted 1969
Hakeem Olajuwon (x2)(1989/90, 1995/96) drafted 1984
David Robinson (x2)(1991/92, 1993/94) drafted 1987
Victor Wembanyama (2023/24) drafted 2023 (ROOKIE)
Joakim Noah (2012/13) drafted 2007
Marcus Camby (2007/08) drafted 1996
Andrei Kirilenko (2005/06) drafted 1999
Nate Thurmond (1974/75) drafted 1963

Victor Wembanyama 2023/2024
2024.01.10 21 min 16 pts 12 reb 10 ast
2024.02.12 29 min 27 pts 14 reb 10 blk

Joakim Noah 2012/2013
2012.12.18 37 min 11 pts 13 reb 10 ast
2013.02.28 45 min 23 pts 21 reb 11 blk

Marcus Camby 2007/2008
2007.12.26 30 min 10 pts 11 reb 10 blk
2008.03.16 27 min 13 pts 15 reb 10 ast

Andrei Kirilenko 2005/2006
2006.01.17 46 min 18 pts 16 reb 11 ast
2006.03.25 40 min 15 pts 25 reb 10 blk

Hakeem Olajuwon 1995/1996
1995.12.13 38 min 15 pts 14 reb 10 blk
1995.12.28 38 min 22 pts 18 reb 10 ast
1996.04.13 32 min 31 pts 13 reb 10 blk

David Robinson 1993/1994
1993.11.09 41 min 43 pts 11 reb 10 blk
1993.12.03 45 min 23 pts 11 reb 10 ast
1994.01.11 37 min 27 pts 12 reb 10 ast
1994.02.08 42 min 31 pts 14 reb 10 ast
1994.02.17 43 min 34 pts 10 reb 10 ast 10 blk

David Robinson 1991/1992
1992.02.04 45 min 23 pts 14 reb 11 blk
1992.03.14 43 min 27 pts 12 reb 11 ast

Hakeem Olajuwon 1989/1990
1989.11.11 42 min 24 pts 21 reb 12 blk
1989.12.17 43 min 32 pts 25 reb 10 blk
1990.03.03 40 min 29 pts 18 reb 11 blk
1990.03.29 40 min 18 pts 16 reb 10 ast 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1978/1979
1978.01.24 44 min 27 pts 10 reb 12 ast
1978.01.28 43 min 27 pts 16 reb 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1975/1976
1975.11.02 49 min 39 pts 23 reb 10 blk
1975.12.03 46 min 29 pts 21 reb 11 blk
1976.01.06 46 min 20 pts 22 reb 10 ast
1976.03.05 46 min 35 pts 20 reb 12 ast
1976.03.07 42 min 25 pts 17 reb 10 ast

Nate Thurmond 1974/1975
1974.10.18 45 min 22 pts 14 reb 13 ast 12 blk
1974.10.26 37 min 11 pts 11 reb 10 ast

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1973/1974
1973.11.02 47 min 35 pts 16 reb 11 ast
1973.11.03 53 min 19 pts 16 reb 10 blk
1974.01.25 48 min 31 pts 17 reb 10 ast

[MultiTroll]

first player with 10 blocks and 5 assists in under 30 minutes played, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.

[RC_Drunkford]

So I compiled the stats and found this :

Victor Wembanyama is the first rookie to record at least a triple double with assists and another one with blocks in NBA history.

Others have done it but they were at least in their 5th season in the league. Full stats :

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (x3)(1973/74, 1975/76, 1978/79) drafted 1969
Hakeem Olajuwon (x2)(1989/90, 1995/96) drafted 1984
David Robinson (x2)(1991/92, 1993/94) drafted 1987
Victor Wembanyama (2023/24) drafted 2023 (ROOKIE)
Joakim Noah (2012/13) drafted 2007
Marcus Camby (2007/08) drafted 1996
Andrei Kirilenko (2005/06) drafted 1999
Nate Thurmond (1974/75) drafted 1963

Victor Wembanyama 2023/2024
2024.01.10 21 min 16 pts 12 reb 10 ast
2024.02.12 29 min 27 pts 14 reb 10 blk

Joakim Noah 2012/2013
2012.12.18 37 min 11 pts 13 reb 10 ast
2013.02.28 45 min 23 pts 21 reb 11 blk

Marcus Camby 2007/2008
2007.12.26 30 min 10 pts 11 reb 10 blk
2008.03.16 27 min 13 pts 15 reb 10 ast

Andrei Kirilenko 2005/2006
2006.01.17 46 min 18 pts 16 reb 11 ast
2006.03.25 40 min 15 pts 25 reb 10 blk

Hakeem Olajuwon 1995/1996
1995.12.13 38 min 15 pts 14 reb 10 blk
1995.12.28 38 min 22 pts 18 reb 10 ast
1996.04.13 32 min 31 pts 13 reb 10 blk

David Robinson 1993/1994
1993.11.09 41 min 43 pts 11 reb 10 blk
1993.12.03 45 min 23 pts 11 reb 10 ast
1994.01.11 37 min 27 pts 12 reb 10 ast
1994.02.08 42 min 31 pts 14 reb 10 ast
1994.02.17 43 min 34 pts 10 reb 10 ast 10 blk

David Robinson 1991/1992
1992.02.04 45 min 23 pts 14 reb 11 blk
1992.03.14 43 min 27 pts 12 reb 11 ast

Hakeem Olajuwon 1989/1990
1989.11.11 42 min 24 pts 21 reb 12 blk
1989.12.17 43 min 32 pts 25 reb 10 blk
1990.03.03 40 min 29 pts 18 reb 11 blk
1990.03.29 40 min 18 pts 16 reb 10 ast 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1978/1979
1978.01.24 44 min 27 pts 10 reb 12 ast
1978.01.28 43 min 27 pts 16 reb 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1975/1976
1975.11.02 49 min 39 pts 23 reb 10 blk
1975.12.03 46 min 29 pts 21 reb 11 blk
1976.01.06 46 min 20 pts 22 reb 10 ast
1976.03.05 46 min 35 pts 20 reb 12 ast
1976.03.07 42 min 25 pts 17 reb 10 ast

Nate Thurmond 1974/1975
1974.10.18 45 min 22 pts 14 reb 13 ast 12 blk
1974.10.26 37 min 11 pts 11 reb 10 ast

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1973/1974
1973.11.02 47 min 35 pts 16 reb 11 ast
1973.11.03 53 min 19 pts 16 reb 10 blk
1974.01.25 48 min 31 pts 17 reb 10 ast

looking at these minutes a lot of them came in overtime games

[John B]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGMCrHlX0AA07UC?format=jpg&name=large

DPOY!

[Fizziksman]

Chiefs and Spurs fan get to witness two GOATs :cry

[Pauleta14]

For all those defending PATFO's strategy I invite you to take a listen (from abpit 59' mark) Ben Golliver's take...


https://youtu.be/aQtZG9zoHf4?si=afaTA7f4AwRFuMnR

[manufan10]

Nice tidbits from ESPN Stats & Info on the numbers behind Victor's triple double:

Here's one quote from the article:


150: There's been no shortage of blocked shots and dimes by the French center this season.
He has 152 assists and 153 blocks this season, the first rookie with 150 assists and blocks in a season since Pau Gasol in 2001-02. Gasol would go on to win Rookie of the Year that season.
Wembanyama's 50 steals also means he's the first rookie with 150 assists and blocks and 50 steals in a single season since Duncan. It took Wembanyama 48 games to reach 150 blocks and 50 steals, the second fewest career games since 1973-74, only trailing Robinson (47).


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39515346/victor-wembanyama-triple-double-numbers

[Pauleta14]

... all that on minutes restriction is crazy

[Trill Clinton]

For all those defending PATFO's strategy I invite you to take a listen (from abpit 59' mark) Ben Golliver's take...


https://youtu.be/aQtZG9zoHf4?si=afaTA7f4AwRFuMnR

Spurs take an L for not trading for tyus jones or Malcolm brogdon? Yea no thanks. Brogdon's contract is bad and he's already 31.

Tre Jones is a better value than both and has shown the ability to play along Wemby. Neither of the guards they mentioned are worth trading away assets for.

[lefty]

So I compiled the stats and found this :

Victor Wembanyama is the first rookie to record at least a triple double with assists and another one with blocks in NBA history.

Others have done it but they were at least in their 5th season in the league. Full stats :

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (x3)(1973/74, 1975/76, 1978/79) drafted 1969
Hakeem Olajuwon (x2)(1989/90, 1995/96) drafted 1984
David Robinson (x2)(1991/92, 1993/94) drafted 1987
Victor Wembanyama (2023/24) drafted 2023 (ROOKIE)
Joakim Noah (2012/13) drafted 2007
Marcus Camby (2007/08) drafted 1996
Andrei Kirilenko (2005/06) drafted 1999
Nate Thurmond (1974/75) drafted 1963

Victor Wembanyama 2023/2024
2024.01.10 21 min 16 pts 12 reb 10 ast
2024.02.12 29 min 27 pts 14 reb 10 blk

Joakim Noah 2012/2013
2012.12.18 37 min 11 pts 13 reb 10 ast
2013.02.28 45 min 23 pts 21 reb 11 blk

Marcus Camby 2007/2008
2007.12.26 30 min 10 pts 11 reb 10 blk
2008.03.16 27 min 13 pts 15 reb 10 ast

Andrei Kirilenko 2005/2006
2006.01.17 46 min 18 pts 16 reb 11 ast
2006.03.25 40 min 15 pts 25 reb 10 blk

Hakeem Olajuwon 1995/1996
1995.12.13 38 min 15 pts 14 reb 10 blk
1995.12.28 38 min 22 pts 18 reb 10 ast
1996.04.13 32 min 31 pts 13 reb 10 blk

David Robinson 1993/1994
1993.11.09 41 min 43 pts 11 reb 10 blk
1993.12.03 45 min 23 pts 11 reb 10 ast
1994.01.11 37 min 27 pts 12 reb 10 ast
1994.02.08 42 min 31 pts 14 reb 10 ast
1994.02.17 43 min 34 pts 10 reb 10 ast 10 blk

David Robinson 1991/1992
1992.02.04 45 min 23 pts 14 reb 11 blk
1992.03.14 43 min 27 pts 12 reb 11 ast

Hakeem Olajuwon 1989/1990
1989.11.11 42 min 24 pts 21 reb 12 blk
1989.12.17 43 min 32 pts 25 reb 10 blk
1990.03.03 40 min 29 pts 18 reb 11 blk
1990.03.29 40 min 18 pts 16 reb 10 ast 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1978/1979
1978.01.24 44 min 27 pts 10 reb 12 ast
1978.01.28 43 min 27 pts 16 reb 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1975/1976
1975.11.02 49 min 39 pts 23 reb 10 blk
1975.12.03 46 min 29 pts 21 reb 11 blk
1976.01.06 46 min 20 pts 22 reb 10 ast
1976.03.05 46 min 35 pts 20 reb 12 ast
1976.03.07 42 min 25 pts 17 reb 10 ast

Nate Thurmond 1974/1975
1974.10.18 45 min 22 pts 14 reb 13 ast 12 blk
1974.10.26 37 min 11 pts 11 reb 10 ast

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1973/1974
1973.11.02 47 min 35 pts 16 reb 11 ast
1973.11.03 53 min 19 pts 16 reb 10 blk
1974.01.25 48 min 31 pts 17 reb 10 ast
But I was told by old heads there are not real bigs today and nobody plays defense

[thiste]

But I was told by old heads there are not real bigs today and nobody plays defense

To be fair the stats show it hadn't been done in 10+ years :lol

[thiste]

CAREER HIGHSPTSREBASTSTLBLKTRIPLE-DOUBLES


David Robinson71241171214


Tim Duncan532711894


Victor Wembanyama3820106102



Victor hanging in there already! Not even a season in!

[spurraider21]

talk about breaking through the rookie wall he had hit...

[lefty]

To be fair the stats show it hadn't been done in 10+ years :lol
It's relatively not that far away :lol

[JPB]

Raptors fans :lol

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1757214134678995060

[z0sa]

CAREER HIGHSPTSREBASTSTLBLKTRIPLE-DOUBLES


David Robinson71241171214


Tim Duncan532711894


Victor Wembanyama3820106102



Victor hanging in there already! Not even a season in!

Crazy, he's already beat Tim's single game record for blocks :wow

[SOMA Spur]

Raptors fans :lol

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1757214134678995060

wow. this is hilarious.

[rjv]

CAREER HIGHS
PTS
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TRIPLE-DOUBLES


David Robinson
71
24
11
7
12
14


Tim Duncan
53
27
11
8
9
4


Victor Wembanyama
38
20
10
6
10
2



Victor hanging in there already! Not even a season in!

i think so many forget just how much of a beast david was.

[thiste]

Here's a more apt comparison maybe, their respective rookie season highs (Victor's still going on ofc):



ROOKIE HIGHSMINPTSREBASTSTLBLKTRIPLE-DOUBLES


David Robinson (24yo)36.6412175123


Tim Duncan (21yo)39.135229380


Victor Wembanyama (19/20yo)28.43820106102



Younger & with significantly less minutes, what Victor does is nothing short of extraordinary. He compares very favorably with rookie Duncan :wow

[spurraider21]

he'll be making a push for an all-nba team with embiid not being able to qualify

obviously jokic will be first team center. but other guys competing will be Sabonis, Bam, Gobert, Jarrett Allen

[Maddog]

To be fair the stats show it hadn't been done in 10+ years :lol

I think the blocks part is the catch With the emphasis on three's less blocks. Also you as a center are more often pulled away from the rim area

[DAF86]

Chiefs and Spurs fan get to witness two GOATs :cry

Three, if you're me. :hat

[ambchang]

But I was told by old heads there are not real bigs today and nobody plays defense

Which is why wemby got it.

[TD 21]

Here's a more apt comparison maybe, their respective rookie season highs (Victor's still going on ofc):



ROOKIE HIGHS
MIN
PTS
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TRIPLE-DOUBLES


David Robinson (24yo)
36.6
41
21
7
5
12
3


Tim Duncan (21yo)
39.1
35
22
9
3
8
0


Victor Wembanyama (19/20yo)
28.4
38
20
10
6
10
2



Younger & with significantly less minutes, what Victor does is nothing short of extraordinary. He compares very favorably with rookie Duncan :wow

Not by advanced metrics, he doesn't. Of course, he's almost 2 years younger as a rookie, with a far worse team surrounding him though.

[tonight...you]

Three, if you're me. :hat
https://media1.tenor.com/m/IoO9Y09oQG0AAAAC/denzel-training-day.gif

[exstatic]

i think so many forget just how much of a beast david was.

If you didn’t see him before the ‘96 Olympics ruined his back, you never saw him at all. He was Jordan’s first call for The Dream Team.

[Rocalcio]

Here's a more apt comparison maybe, their respective rookie season highs (Victor's still going on ofc):



ROOKIE HIGHS
MIN
PTS
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TRIPLE-DOUBLES


David Robinson (24yo)
36.6
41
21
7
5
12
3


Tim Duncan (21yo)
39.1
35
22
9
3
8
0


Victor Wembanyama (19/20yo)
28.4
38
20
10
6
10
2



Younger & with significantly less minutes, what Victor does is nothing short of extraordinary. He compares very favorably with rookie Duncan :wow

I’m pretty sure that by the end of the season he’ll have the best numbers in every category

[pad300]

I’m pretty sure that by the end of the season he’ll have the best numbers in every category

I am confident that Wemby will not have the high in minutes played...

[Rocalcio]

I am confident that Wemby will not have the high in minutes played...

Yeah, my bad, apart for that :lol

[Pauleta14]

https://youtu.be/wi9Fyla8KIc?si=4IyocHeSmPoBEhhg

[thiste]

Contested Shots (CS) vs. Blocks (BLK):



CSBLK%


Brook Lopez90014115.7%


Chet Holmgren69714320.5%


Anthony Davis61512820.8%


Rudy Gobert59710918.3%


Walker Kessler54213124.2%


Victor Wembanyama41815637.3%

[spurraider21]

His contests should be a lot higher but our team is incapable of defending the 3 point line

[manufan10]

His contests should be a lot higher but our team is incapable of defending the 3 point line

The overhelp on drives to the basket and leave guys wide open for 3 every game is maddening. If they would allow the driver to attack the basket that would give Wemby more contests and more blocks.

[onechance87]

Get this man some help

[manufan10]

1758149704456474863

[manufan10]

1758144140381143340

[TimmehC]

Yeah get a couple more perimeter guys who can defend like Sochan(preferably with good/extra length) then keep Bassey or get another solid defensive backup C and SA can easily be the top defense in the league. Force teams into either taking tough midrange shots or challenging Wemby.

[thiste]

His contests should be a lot higher but our team is incapable of defending the 3 point line

To me that stat shows that rim deterrence that we see during games: players just don't even try to attack him, they'd rather pass the ball out when they see him. We see that every game.

And since they're not shooting, he can't have as many contested shots.

[exstatic]

His minutes are also still fairly low. That would also affect the number of contests.

[rjv]

ST clamoring for the FO to shore up the defense but also want the spurs to go after the likes of a trae young.

[manufan10]

"Gobert's report was succinct -- and tantalizing: The young star, he said, would be a "real problem really soon" for everyone across the league.
It took less than four months."


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39513092/victor-wembanyama-most-unbelievable-first-half-highlights (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39513092/victor-wembanyama-most-unbelievable-first-half-highlights)

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/psyopkiller/status/1758184800005878047

[scott]

Proud of this thread for finally passing the Primo thread in length

[spurraider21]

Proud of this thread for finally passing the Primo thread in length
And if there is one thing both wemby and primo are known for it’s length

[CGD]

1758144140381143340

lol

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/brayknowball/status/1758179889444708836

[CorrectCrusader]

ST clamoring for the FO to shore up the defense but also want the spurs to go after the likes of a trae young.

Two things are true

Our Defense sucks ass
Our Shooting sucks ass

[spurraider21]

1758503271407206796

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1758540597042790431

[Leetonidas]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1758540597042790431

:lol people thinking he's gonna be content with losing and building through the draft for the next 5 years

[CorrectCrusader]

Now I'm imagining Wembys long ass legs going up 4 steps at a time

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/bballforever_/status/1758267933648998425

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/NBAKicks/status/1758559374946058460

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/bballforever_/status/1758267933648998425
Wemby would have averaged 60 ppg if he played in the shitty 90s tbh

[lefty]

Nikka what

https://x.com/NBA/status/1758528912609468454

[RC_Drunkford]

ST clamoring for the FO to shore up the defense but also want the spurs to go after the likes of a trae young.

Tre Jones is not much better on D

[CGD]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1758540597042790431

Damn it, now we have to deal with Trae Young in our lives for the next 4 years.

[lefty]

:lol
Sochan


https://twitter.com/brickmuse/status/1758597813372666080

[spurraider21]

1758622579110130161

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5GJlymvFw

[thiste]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGfiADMWYAAlXsg.jpg

:lmao

[onechance87]

Damn it, now we have to deal with Trae Young in our lives for the next 4 years.

well if wright does his job....Shouldint be a problem...So far the players he drafted and the contracts hes giving
out have not be impressive.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/1758580463654895664

[tonight...you]

https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/1758580463654895664
Sick.

[CGD]

1758622579110130161

Jaquez should be a Spur.

[BatManu20]

1758898243520311372

[Spurs Homer]

wembymania

[Spurs Homer]

Ernie/TNT asked wemby if pop had been hard on him…or give an example..

wemby explained that pop was caring and wanted wemby to adjust to usa life etc…
but one time while watching film

he showed wemby during film session and asked wemby, “what the fuck is this?”

live on the tnt broadcast

[emanueldavidginobili]

1758993157507698900

[Spurs Homer]

lol thanks for posting that

[thiste]

1758993157507698900

Does he get a pass because he's foreign? Cuz we're pretty casual with those kinds of things over here in France...

[mudyez]

Even though Wembys team didn't win, he found the way in slalom without turning the ball over. Something not every participant can say of himself.

[TheBallsbreakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_vZmJ7e9JM

[thiste]

« NBA superstars anoint Spurs' Victor Wembanyama as LeBron James' heir apparent

INDIANAPOLIS — The LeBron James Era is nearing an end. The Age of Victor Wembanyama is about to take hold.

That was the message, in so many words, some of the NBA's biggest stars delivered Saturday at media day for the 2024 All-Star Game. »

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/nba-superstars-anoint-spurs-victor-wembanyama-18673469.php

[thiste]

In video format:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0R344-X1nU


« NBA superstars anoint Spurs' Victor Wembanyama as LeBron James' heir apparent

INDIANAPOLIS — The LeBron James Era is nearing an end. The Age of Victor Wembanyama is about to take hold.

That was the message, in so many words, some of the NBA's biggest stars delivered Saturday at media day for the 2024 All-Star Game. »

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/nba-superstars-anoint-spurs-victor-wembanyama-18673469.php

[emanueldavidginobili]

1759352156585402533

smfh

[thiste]

Victor Wembanyama becomes Ambassador for Louis Vuitton:

https://twitter.com/50NuancesDeNBA/status/1759939772477223225

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2pXUyjVLQ

[Harry Callahan]

Vic is going to do very well in this life......LV for him totally makes sense.....

[thiste]

At least he'll be better dressed than Timmy :lmao

[exstatic]

At least he'll be better dressed than Timmy :lmao

Everyone in the NBA during his career dressed better than Tim. You prioritize things that are important to you, and that just wasn’t.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/1759970955131322860

[spurraider21]

1760015704919617796

[timtonymanu]

Imagine having Scoot Henderson or amen Thompson right now. Yeesh

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1760451633010340335

[Pauleta14]

I remember 2 things from Lebron's rookie season, his physical readiness...... and his 4th Qt stats padding :lol

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNzeSUdyKpE

[scott]

1760788001024868692

[spurraider21]

the state of your roster when julian champagnie is a top 5 player :lol

[scott]

1760788001024868692

For those curious about former Spurs or Spurs-adjacent players:

9. Kawhi Leonard (10.8)
11. Tyrese Haliburton (11.6)
24. Trae Young (29.5)
27. Alperen Şengün (31.6)
36. Derrick White (40.1)
51. DeMar DeRozan (60.3)
67. Dejounte Murray (81.0)
76. Jalen Smith (91.9)
91. Tyler Herro (107.0)
92. Tyus Jones (107.5)
94. Jakob Poeltl (108.0)
101. Austin Reaves (111.9)
161. John Collins (162.1)
212. Trey Lyles (205.8)
236. Drew Eubanks (222.1)
250. Josh Richardson (237.1)
258. Chimezie Metu (242.8)259. Keita Bates-Diop (244.5)

You can figure out on your own why I included some players, but I included Tyler Herro because before the season I said that I thought he was slightly better than Devin, but it appears by this measure, Devin is slightly better than Herro. Crow eaten.

[spurraider21]

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[MultiTroll]

HNI
What Victor is doing with this crap roster and coach is indeed super impressive for a 19 year old!

On the positive side we're gonna have our own excellent chance at a high draft pick for 2024.

[tbdog]

Yeah. The real team building begins at the draft.

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HPtOY7PpPs

[spurraider21]

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[tonight...you]

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Lol. Surprised they didn't talk about his snowshoes.

[manufan10]

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[manufan10]

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[Mr. Body]

The blocks were a given, although players are avoiding him more and more. It's the steals - he's learning how to use his length down low to get pokes and swipes. I saw it in the Euro finals last year and it's great to see him doing it more.

[manufan10]

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[tbdog]

First player with 5 blocks and 5 steals in consecutive games since Jordan in the 80s.

22 5x5’s in NBA history and he has one in his first 50 games played

[kxs783kms]

The blocks were a given, although players are avoiding him more and more. It's the steals - he's learning how to use his length down low to get pokes and swipes. I saw it in the Euro finals last year and it's great to see him doing it more.

Him getting steals in the flow of the game from tight passes is great. I just don't want him feeling like he has to get them playing a player straight up. He picks up really bad fouls doing so. These games are meaningless now since they're losing, so he can take those chances. But when we come a true competitive team and we're playing big games in big moments, he can't make silly fouls like those.

[manufan10]

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[manufan10]

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[CGD]

^ seriously, why can’t he win DPOY again?

[CGD]

Get this boy some help!

[r0drig0lac]

greatness

[Dejounte]

No, let’s wait until he’s ready before we give him competent teammates lulz

[RC_Drunkford]

1761289632237674757

[CGD]

LMA? That’s interesting. Glad they’re bringing him into the fold. His midrange game was elite.

[Tyronn Lue]

There's a weird unspoken pseudo-truth that "this is the hand they were dealt, they are trying to play it best they can". No, Victor is the hand they were dealt. It's like Pop is a G league coach now trying to get guys ready to play in the NBA. He even talks that way in pressers. How cheap are the owners that they won't insist on putting a team together after getting Victor?

[RC_Drunkford]

LMA? That’s interesting. Glad they’re bringing him into the fold. His midrange game was elite.

yeah weather people like it or not, LA was unstoppable in the post unless you doubled him. He can teach Wemby a lot.

[LeBowen]

yeah weather people like it or not, LA was unstoppable in the post unless you doubled him. He can teach Wemby a lot.

In a recent podcast, LMA said his college coach told him to pick three things to work on because trying to do too much on offense is often counter-productive.
He picked KG's fadeaway, Rasheed's high release and Timmy's turn towards the middle. That's more or less all he did in the post.

I'm not saying Wemby should be limited to a LMA role, but sometimes it feels like he overthinks things because he can do too much and is undecided what's the best play in that given moment.

[exstatic]

In a recent podcast, LMA said his college coach told him to pick three things to work on because trying to do too much on offense is often counter-productive.
He picked KG's fadeaway, Rasheed's high release and Timmy's turn towards the middle. That's more or less all he did in the post.

I'm not saying Wemby should be limited to a LMA role, but sometimes it feels like he overthinks things because he can do too much and is undecided what's the best play in that given moment.

Maybe he though LMA was dumb, and couldn’t retain more than that.

[CGD]

In a recent podcast, LMA said his college coach told him to pick three things to work on because trying to do too much on offense is often counter-productive.
He picked KG's fadeaway, Rasheed's high release and Timmy's turn towards the middle. That's more or less all he did in the post.

I'm not saying Wemby should be limited to a LMA role, but sometimes it feels like he overthinks things because he can do too much and is undecided what's the best play in that given moment.

Those are some killer moves tbh, especially the Rasheed high release.

[RC_Drunkford]

In a recent podcast, LMA said his college coach told him to pick three things to work on because trying to do too much on offense is often counter-productive.
He picked KG's fadeaway, Rasheed's high release and Timmy's turn towards the middle. That's more or less all he did in the post.

I'm not saying Wemby should be limited to a LMA role, but sometimes it feels like he overthinks things because he can do too much and is undecided what's the best play in that given moment.

LA said on all the smoke he would break Wemby's game down and make him pick a go-to move that's unstoppable and he'd be most comfortable with.

[John B]

Recently I read on Pop saying they were watching films of Jordan, Kobe, McHale, Hakeem… I really hope they could bring in Hakeem to work with Wemby’s footwork. Damn, the possibilities of this kid.

[Splits]

https://i.ibb.co/5WfCL2p/image.png

[exstatic]

Recently I read on Pop saying they were watching films of Jordan, Kobe, McHale, Hakeem… I really hope they could bring in Hakeem to work with Wemby’s footwork. Damn, the possibilities of this kid.

I’d be pissed off if Tim went and helped the rockets. Don’t really see Hakeem helping the arch rival.

[tbdog]

^ seriously, why can’t he win DPOY again?

Well for one, the best defensive team is wolves and they got a former DPOY.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1761421728167969160

[onechance87]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1761421728167969160

get this man sum help

[thiste]

get this man sum help

Right?

https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1761373681912091103

[John B]

I’d be pissed off if Tim went and helped the rockets. Don’t really see Hakeem helping the arch rival.

Hakeem offered his workshops to Kobe, Lebro, Melo, McGee, Stoudamire… He doesn’t do it for Rockets only.

[manufan10]

Recently I read on Pop saying they were watching films of Jordan, Kobe, McHale, Hakeem… I really hope they could bring in Hakeem to work with Wemby’s footwork. Damn, the possibilities of this kid.

I was actually thinking this last night. If he worked with Hakeem during the offseason to work on his footwork would be awesome to see. Especially with how quick of a learner Wemby is.

[Chomag]

Wemby is that kind of player where you max everything out in 2k and the only thing he lacks is experience. We are so lucky to have him and I just hope this FO does everything possible to make Wemby want to stay.

[Chomag]

Recently I read on Pop saying they were watching films of Jordan, Kobe, McHale, Hakeem… I really hope they could bring in Hakeem to work with Wemby’s footwork. Damn, the possibilities of this kid.


Hakeem offered his workshops to Kobe, Lebro, Melo, McGee, Stoudamire… He doesn’t do it for Rockets only.

I remember him working with Howard at one point during Howard's Orlando days.

[BatManu20]

Wemby is that kind of player where you max everything out in 2k and the only thing he lacks is experience. We are so lucky to have him and I just hope this FO does everything possible to make Wemby want to stay.

Tbh the first thing I thought when I saw Wemby's new Louis Vatton billboard the other day was, "This kid's too Hollywood for a small market like San Antonio. He's destined for a major market eventually." Obviously I hope this isn't the case, and lot will be determined over the next 2-3 years in terms of whether the Spurs can build a roster around this kid or not, but I wouldn't be shocked if he wants to play in LA or NYC eventually tbh. Hope I'm wrong and that he's a Spur for life. Time will tell.

[ambchang]

I’d be pissed off if Tim went and helped the rockets. Don’t really see Hakeem helping the arch rival.

As long as we don't go to Kobe for help.

[Tyronn Lue]

I’d be pissed off if Tim went and helped the rockets. Don’t really see Hakeem helping the arch rival.
If the guy needs to get paid and the Spurs aren't willing, he has to be able to make a living.

[spurraider21]

Maybe he thought LMA was dumb, and couldn’t retain more than that.
He’s one of the best scorers of his generation and among the best scoring 4s in NBA history

he wasn’t flawless but your over the top poo-pooing of him is misplaced

[TD 21]

Recently I read on Pop saying they were watching films of Jordan, Kobe, McHale, Hakeem… I really hope they could bring in Hakeem to work with Wemby’s footwork. Damn, the possibilities of this kid.


I was actually thinking this last night. If he worked with Hakeem during the offseason to work on his footwork would be awesome to see. Especially with how quick of a learner Wemby is.

:lmao This organization has Duncan (since it's apparently forgotten by most, YouTube the young version) at its fingertips, but Wembanyama needs to waste 50k on Olajuwon because he was more hyped and flashier?

[John B]

:lmao This organization has Duncan (since it's apparently forgotten by most, YouTube the young version) at its fingertips, but Wembanyama needs to waste 50k on Olajuwon because he was more hyped and flashier?

Not taking anything away from Timmy. Timmy is the PF GOAT, but you don’t learn everything from Timmy, especially since Wemby is a freak who has guard handles in a big man’s body, nobody has seen before. Pop’s making him watch tapes of Kobe, Jordan, McHale, Hakeem, taking the best of these great players and morphing into the best Wemby can be. And Hakeem is considered as having the best post footwork, big man or not.

[Rocalcio]

I’d be pissed off if Tim went and helped the rockets. Don’t really see Hakeem helping the arch rival.

He’s been helping many players for years, I don’t see why he wouldn’t do that with Wembanyama

[exstatic]

Tbh the first thing I thought when I saw Wemby's new Louis Vatton billboard the other day was, "This kid's too Hollywood for a small market like San Antonio. He's destined for a major market eventually." Obviously I hope this isn't the case, and lot will be determined over the next 2-3 years in terms of whether the Spurs can build a roster around this kid or not, but I wouldn't be shocked if he wants to play in LA or NYC eventually tbh. Hope I'm wrong and that he's a Spur for life. Time will tell.

Name one other NBA player with a fashion house deal. It’s not a Hollywood thing, it’s a EUROPEAN thing. If it were a Hollywood thing, every hood rat NBA player would have one. LeBron would have one.

[CGD]

Tbh the first thing I thought when I saw Wemby's new Louis Vatton billboard the other day was, "This kid's too Hollywood for a small market like San Antonio. He's destined for a major market eventually." Obviously I hope this isn't the case, and lot will be determined over the next 2-3 years in terms of whether the Spurs can build a roster around this kid or not, but I wouldn't be shocked if he wants to play in LA or NYC eventually tbh. Hope I'm wrong and that he's a Spur for life. Time will tell.

Maybe you’re right, but the world has changed in terms of brands and promotion so much in 15 years. Plus, he might well live in France for the entire summer regardless of where his team is, which is actually a good thing SAS has going for it.

But let’s be honest, the real reason many young people want to move to bigger cities is to be “single and mingle” with other young people. We don’t know the degree to which Wemby values that, but you only get your 20s once…

[Ocotillo]

Maybe you’re right, but the world has changed in terms of brands and promotion so much in 15 years. Plus, he might well live in France for the entire summer regardless of where his team is, which is actually a good thing SAS has going for it.

But let’s be honest, the real reason many young people want to move to bigger cities is to be “single and mingle” with other young people. We don’t know the degree to which Wemby values that, but you only get your 20s once…

You wonder, but then you read about how he reads an hour before bed and makes time for sleep as part of his regimen so he may be less inclined to partake in that world.

[exstatic]

Maybe you’re right, but the world has changed in terms of brands and promotion so much in 15 years. Plus, he might well live in France for the entire summer regardless of where his team is, which is actually a good thing SAS has going for it.

But let’s be honest, the real reason many young people want to move to bigger cities is to be “single and mingle” with other young people. We don’t know the degree to which Wemby values that, but you only get your 20s once…

Sean was shocked at the Wemby legacy dinner with Tim, Manu, and DRob that the questions he asked were about getting rest, and how to eat well on the road. When your career ends in your 30s, there’s plenty of time for clubbing later. There’s only one developmental cycle, and one prime.

[Russ]

Don't know if this has been posted yet:

‘That kid is SPECIAL’: Victor Wembanyama posts rare ‘5x5’ stat line, making NBA history
By Ben Morse, CNN
Published 6:07 AM EST, Sat February 24, 2024

CNN
—
Victor Wembanyama made NBA history on Friday evening, joining an exclusive club by posting a ‘5x5’ stat line.

The French rookie filled up the box score during his San Antonio Spurs’ 123-118 defeat to the Los Angeles Lakers, finishing with 27 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists, 5 steals and 5 blocks in just 31 minutes.

He became the 15th player to log a ‘5x5’ stat line – where players record at least five points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks in a single game – and Wembanyama became the youngest to achieve the feat.

According to the NBA, the star rookie, at 20 years and 50 days old, broke the previous record of 22 years and 288 days set by Andrei Kirilenko since the league began tracking steals and blocks in 1973-74.

Wembanyama is seen as the future of the NBA and on Friday night, he faced off against one of the greats of the league in LeBron James.

Although James had the final word with the victory – in part due to his 30 points – the 39-year-old was like many of us, in awe of Wembanyama’s abilities on the basketball court.

“That kid is SPECIAL!!” he wrote on X – formerly known as Twitter – accompanied with an alien emoji.

James called Wembanyama an alien before he was drafted last year, referring to his unique combination of ball-handling abilities and frame – he stands at seven foot and four inches tall.

His rare skillset has seen him touted as a future NBA superstar, and he’s enjoyed an excellent rookie season, despite the Spurs not recording many victories.

He leads all rookies in points, rebounds, steals and blocks. He also leads the NBA in blocks.

James expanded on Wembanyama’s potential in the NBA after Friday’s game.

“He doesn’t have a ceiling,” James told reporters, per the NBA’s official website. “He can do whatever he wants to do in his career. It seems like he enjoys the game. It seems like he puts the work in, just from the outside looking in.

“I said a long time ago how special he was, and it’s really that simple.”

Wembanyama’s ‘5x5’ comes a day after he fell one assist shy of the mark on Thursday against the Sacramento Kings.

On Friday against the Lakers, he reached the mark in just 30 minutes, 55 seconds – the smallest amount of playing time needed to reach a ‘5×5’ stat line in NBA history.

It is the first ‘5x5’ stat line achieved since Jusuf Nurkic totalled 24 points, 23 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 blocks and 5 steals for the Portland Trail Blazers against the Sacramento Kings on New Year’s Day in 2019.

Wembanyama also joined more elite company with his achievement, joining Michael Jordan as the only players to get at least five steals and five blocks in consecutive games.

However, the first-year player couldn’t appreciate the moment given the result his team had just suffered.

“I wonder if (Jordan) did it in wins, not losses,” Wembanyama told reporters, per the NBA’s official website. “To me, it’s secondary. Hopefully in the future we can look back and see this as a good performance, but as of today, I can’t be satisfied in a loss.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/24/sport/victor-wembanyama-5x5-nba-history-lakers-spt-intl/index.html

[TD 21]

And Hakeem is considered as having the best post footwork, big man or not.

That's what I was alluding to when I said "more hyped and flashier".

Duncan's post footwork was as good as Olajuwon's, just less publicized.

[John B]

That's what I was alluding to when I said "more hyped and flashier".

Duncan's post footwork was as good as Olajuwon's, just less publicized.

Again, I love Timmy and not taking away from his great footwork. But if you watch Timmy, he pounds and moved his defender with his body and solid low gravity. Dude, Wemby is a stick right now. Later on yeah, but right now he can benefit a lot from the dream shake, avoiding a lot of contact in getting open shots. Again, I’m not saying he can’t learn from Timmy’s moves, which are plenty. And then, there’s also McHale’s, Kobe and Jordan as Pop was saying.

[Spursfanfromafar]

The one thing that Wemby can internalise from Timmy - how to be consistent. Timmy was probably the most consistent NBA player ever. I could probably say, the most consistent sportsperson ever. His productivity never really dipped since his first year to his last.. and I think most of us just took his success for granted. I dont remember a game where I thought I said.. this loss is because Timmy flopped in this game or something like that. There were a few jaw dropping games by Timmy, but his floor was always an above average, good game. Just a look at his bkref page will tell us how consistent he was (adjusted for 36 minutes).

Wemby is getting there .. he is slowly getting to a point where the stat stuffing he is doing is soon going to be taken for granted. I mean 3 blocks a game.. easy-peasy. But even in his phase of excellence as a rookie, you can see that he isn't yet HoF-level consistent maybe because he lacks the stamina to be fully engaged for 36 plus minutes and be dominant over all that period. That is what he should take from Timmy's game.. Timmy would always be a beast on defense even when his shot wasn't falling (and his shot almost always fell for a high percentage). And he barely took any nights off when he wore the jersey and went into the gym to play. And he is probably the epitome of the phrase, "leading by example". Wemby can learn to be a leader like Timmy.. he doesnt need a loud voice or a flashy game to lead. He just needs to play his game and to the best of the teams interests. And get ready in the offseason to be able to do that in the regular season and in the playoffs.

So Timmy is the right guy around Wemby. I just hope just like RCB helped mold the best units around Timmy, there is a good FO that will do that for Wemby. Today that is the biggest weakness among the Spurs. Brian Wright hasn't held up as yet to the high standards of his predecessor.

[ambchang]

Watch some jabbar tapes.

[manufan10]

Absolutely insane:

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[manufan10]

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[exstatic]

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That one was almost sicker than when he body bagged Sengün.

If you dunk on Victor, he’s going to come back at you, probably making you look foolish in the process.

[rjv]

That one was almost sicker than when he body bagged Sengün.

If you dunk on Victor, he’s going to come back at you, probably making you look foolish in the process.

kessler got brought back down to earth real quick.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/RealPjHoops/status/1762163218338771055

[scott]

Based on those odds, the DPOY cake is already baked, which seems a little foolish at this point in the season and leads to some nice opportunities for those with the risk tolerance.

[thiste]

Gobert is anchoring the best defense in the league and they're also #1 seed in the West. I don't find it outrageous that he's the runaway favorite for DPOY.

There's absolutely an argument for Victor being the actual best defensive player in the NBA as ridiculous as he's been, but with the Spurs being last in the West he's simply not gonna get it.
I already find it awesome that he's getting that much consideration. If he even finishes #2 in DPOY voting that will absolutely be incredible already, even if he deserved better.

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1762202737624666239

[spurraider21]

Camby won DPOY in 2007 when the Nuggets were a below average defense but he got a lot of blocks

voters have gotten smarter though imo

[thiste]

Speaking of blocks

https://twitter.com/NBA_University/status/1762146412463095863

[Jordan Jackson]

Don’t the Spurs have a top 7 defense with him on the court? Or close to it. He hits the bench and they turn back into pumpkins.

Him finishing second would be really impressive and indicate that people are giving him grace for the awful roster the Spurs put around him.

He probably doesn’t care about this stuff - winning seems to be his main motivation- but it would still be a great accomplishment.

[Pauleta14]

top 4 defense with him

Bottom by large margin without him

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MSqfI_XBUQ

[manufan10]

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[polandprzem]

^^^
Crazy

Not only the stats but he is better with where to be on the floor offensively and defensively !
His blocking became better with that as I said it would. He became fantastic shot blocker and quality of those blocks are higher then it used to be

Also his % FG and 3pts became legit. Esp. his 3pt%.... He is respectful 3 point shooter.

All those progressions in such relative short time are crazy.


His biggest holes still strength to a great degree /minor progress/ and quickness under the basket.

Overall though - the holes I was mentioning some months ago became much more shallow. Beyond my expectations.

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top 4 defense with him

Bottom by large margin without him

Spurs defensive rating this season (per 100 possessions) Per NBAWorld

114 WITH Wembanyama on the court (Would currently rank 5th in the league)

124 WITHOUT Wembanyama on the court (Would currently rank WORST in leage history...A record the Spurs currently own from last year with almost the same roster EXCEPT Wembanyama.

If youve been on this board for the last 3 years or so, you guys know this is where I hang my hat on criticism of the Spurs and Pop specifically. So what does it say that our defense has regressed even worse with these same guys over last year when Wembanyama isn't on the court?

It says we've gotten worse. And it says something has changed and failed with how Pop coaches these kids, and the standard he holds them to.

I'll say it yet again...THIS TEAM WILL NOT IMPROVE ON THE WHOLE UNLESS AND UNTIL WE IMPROVE DEFENSIVELY (WITHOUT WEMBANYAMA ON THE FLOOR TO HIDE THE TEAM'S INCOMPETENCE.

[scott]

Wemby may finish 2nd in DPOY this year, and then win it for the next 10. Amazing.

[spurraider21]

DPOY aside, if Wemby doesnt make an all-defense TEAM this year, and only makes it for the first time next year, he'd still be the youngest player in NBA history to make an all defensive team

[manufan10]

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[manufan10]

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

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But spurs are small market. . . .

[Pauleta14]

That has nothing to do with Spurs's market size, for now at least, but novelty and curiosity about something ppl've never seen before.

It won't have the same impact long term and no, SA isn't the ideal place for Wemby to become the face of the NBA.

Especially as long as Pop will be the boss

[Splits]

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Not really fair for Slo-Mo Fathead to be guarding him 1:1

[spurraider21]

when he decided to launch that i was legitimately expecting an airball tbh :lol

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1762968167750791328

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1762968167750791328

That's fucking nuts :lol

[timtonymanu]

But spurs are small market. . . .

lol thinking the views has anything to do with the Spurs. It’s clear people are more Wemby fans than spurs fans.

[timtonymanu]

Can you imagine if the spurs had Amen Thompson instead? He would be looking so average while guys like Mr. Body will start threads like “I’m all in Amen, who needs Trae Young?”

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol thinking the views has anything to do with the Spurs. It’s clear people are more Wemby fans than spurs fans.

lol thinking the two notions contradict. Who is the face of the Spurs?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Wemby may finish 2nd in DPOY this year, and then win it for the next 10. Amazing.

There is a very good chance that he may finish 1st in DPOY this year. Advanced stats like EPM rate him 7th best -

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

.. but there are qualifiers.

The top six are Isaiah Hartenstein (Knicks), Xavier Tillman (BOS/MEM), Marcus Smart (MEM), Jonathan Isaac (ORL), Joel Embiid (PHI), Alex Caruso (CHI).

Of these Hartestein, Tillman and Isaac are mostly situational players. While Smart hasn't played enough and Embiid will not qualify because of his injury and the low of games played.

Only Caruso will truly contend against Wemby (and Evan Mobley and SGA aren't far away).

I guess voters will also take into account the team's overall defense and that is what will hurt Wemby but I genuinely think that if the choice is between Caruso and Wemby it has to be the latter for overall impact.

[RC_Drunkford]

I thought Gobert was the favorite to win it

[Ignazzz]

lol thinking the two notions contradict. Who is the face of the Spurs?

pop and watch with minutę restriction

[Spursfanfromafar]

I thought Gobert was the favorite to win it

Gobert is the best defensive player in the best defensive team in the league. And thats why he is the favourite probably, but advanced metrics show his numbers aren't as good as Wemby/ Embiid/ SGA/ Caruso/ Mobley.

[Pauleta14]

lol thinking the two notions contradict. Who is the face of the Spurs?

A lot of ppl are fan of Wemby but dislike the spurs. Many watch him despite the Spurs

I hate the Mavs but enjoy watching Luka

[Pauleta14]

If Victor took Gobert's place with the Wolves, do you think their defense would get better or worse?

I think A LOT better, clear title favorite even.

[z0sa]

If Victor took Gobert's place with the Wolves, do you think their defense would get better or worse?

I think A LOT better, clear title favorite even.

It wouldn't get too much better but it would be better.

Offensively, the T-Wolves would be entering a golden age unseen in the history of basketball, though, so their defense wouldn't matter nearly as much.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Can you imagine if the spurs had Amen Thompson instead? He would be looking so average while guys like Mr. Body will start threads like “I’m all in Amen, who needs Trae Young?”

LMAO, we'd be dead for a decade.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If Victor took Gobert's place with the Wolves, do you think their defense would get better or worse?

I think A LOT better, clear title favorite even.

Wolves would be top 2 favorites with wemby instead of gobert.

[Rocalcio]

when he decided to launch that i was legitimately expecting an airball tbh :lol

He actually didn’t even watch the ball go in, as arrogant as Curry :lol

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/NBA_University/status/1763199437231251560

[scott]

For F1 fans, the Spurs had a nice cameo in the latest season of Netflix's Drive to Survive. Alpine driver Pierre Gasly (French Driver on a French Team) game to San Antonio to watch a game (presumably to watch Wemby) and sat courtside with TP9 and got some career advice. Thought it was cool.

[TD 21]

Paraphrasing, but just heard Windhorst say that Wembanyama thought they'd be better and this season is unacceptable to him.

He's made it clear through his actions that he expects significant improvement in short order and the Spurs know they can't get away with doing the slow build they probably prefer.

Lowe chimed in that they know they need guard help and will be active seeking upgrades this off season.

[scott]

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[scott]

Paraphrasing, but just heard Windhorst say that Wembanyama thought they'd be better and this season is unacceptable to him.

He's made it clear through his actions that he expects significant improvement in short order and the Spurs know they can't get away with doing the slow build they probably prefer.

Lowe chimed in that they know they need guard help and will be active seeking upgrades this off season.

Thanks TD! This was obvious to everyone who listened to Wemby's own words in pre-season and everything he has said since, not to mention his body language. I'm glad He's apparently exerting pressure on the FO and, even more importantly, that they are listening. Let's see their actions this offseason! The pressure is on!

Where can we find this to listen ourselves? Was it on Lowe's podcast?

[TD 21]

Yeah, this is good news. This franchise needs a proverbial kick in the ass from him, because otherwise we all know they'll do the usual.


Thanks TD! This was obvious to everyone who listened to Wemby's own words in pre-season and everything he has said since, not to mention his body language. I'm glad He's apparently exerting pressure on the FO and, even more importantly, that they are listening. Let's see their actions this offseason! The pressure is on!

Where can we find this to listen ourselves? Was it on Lowe's podcast?

Previewing Chet vs. Wemby Part III 🍿 | NBA Today (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3g-EVxhL5U&list=PLu1neCd4swua1au5WztuCxM70xUnkOXRH)

[scott]

Deserves it's own thread, tbh! :)

[Frenchfred]

Paraphrasing, but just heard Windhorst say that Wembanyama thought they'd be better and this season is unacceptable to him.

He's made it clear through his actions that he expects significant improvement in short order and the Spurs know they can't get away with doing the slow build they probably prefer.

Lowe chimed in that they know they need guard help and will be active seeking upgrades this off season.

That's for the people who thought that Wemby could take the losses and be patient. It is obvious that losing 85% of the games is taking a huge toll. Also he has improved during the season while the rest of the team is the same or regressed. I think that he starts to understand that a lot of his teammates are just limited and won't be any better.

[z0sa]

Paraphrasing, but just heard Windhorst say that Wembanyama thought they'd be better and this season is unacceptable to him.

He's made it clear through his actions that he expects significant improvement in short order and the Spurs know they can't get away with doing the slow build they probably prefer.

Lowe chimed in that they know they need guard help and will be active seeking upgrades this off season.

Excellent! I love his poise. You can tell Wemby made some big promises to himself about how he'd do this season - and from an individual standpoint, he should be proud. However, it's clear he wants his career to be about winning and wants that winning team to be the Spurs. PATFO would be doing the entire city a disservice if they don't keep the man happy. He's got absolutely no reason other than personal honor and the French connection to be loyal to this city. He will be a billionaire no matter where he plays - let's help him win some titles. Cmon Pop, this ain't rocket science!

[NASpurs]

The seat sniffers are in shambles with this news.

"Trust the process" bullshit they kept spewing.

[tonight...you]

That's for the people who thought that Wemby could take the losses and be patient. It is obvious that losing 85% of the games is taking a huge toll. Also he has improved during the season while the rest of the team is the same or regressed. I think that he starts to understand that a lot of his teammates are just limited and won't be any better.
Seriously, do you peeps truly pay attention?
Wemby has also preached patience. He even said in this last game's post int that he looks to teams like Minny that took a few years to build as an inspiration.
No. He does not enjoy losing. Yes. He wants the team to improve, but he has the right head and eyes in front of him and he has acknowledged this.

You guys project way too much and pay too little attention to all of what's out there.

[Frenchfred]

Seriously, do you peeps truly pay attention?
Wemby has also preached patience. He even said in this last game's post int that he looks to teams like Minny that took a few years to build as an inspiration.
No. He does not enjoy losing. Yes. He wants the team to improve, but he has the right head and eyes in front of him and he has acknowledged this.

You guys project way too much and pay too little attention to all of what's out there.

Wemby has also been coached very well by his entourage to say the right things at every single interview. I know that he is mature for his age but no 19-year old is that mature without proper PR coaching. He knows that expressing publicly his frustration is not good for his image. I'm not saying that he is going to bolt this summer but I don't think that just drafting picks will be sufficient.

[timtonymanu]

lol thinking the two notions contradict. Who is the face of the Spurs?

Yeah I’m sure wemby fans love watching guys like sochan, Vassell, and Keldon stink it up. Lots of casual wemby fans want him to leave the spurs because they already feel the team holds him back.

For all the snark, you have a hard time understanding something so simple.

[Pauleta14]

Wemby changed TWICE teams between 16 and 18 because he thought it wasn't the right place for his ambition and some of you think he'll hesitate to push for a trade?

It'll never go public, not his education, at best it'll be insinuated.

He'll also never backstab the Spurs, meaning he'll try his best to lobby before taking the radical option.

[Leetonidas]

Wemby changed TWICE teams between 16 and 18 because he thought it wasn't the right place for his ambition and some of you think he'll hesitate to push for a trade?

It'll never go public, not his education, at best it'll be insinuated.

He'll also never backstab the Spurs, meaning he'll try his best to lobby before taking the radical option.

Exactly. Wemby is a good kid but let's not fool ourselves. He may not call himself the Chosen One like LeBron did but he has the same aspirations for himself and anyone who thinks he'll be content to let his future be fully dictated by others is kidding themselves.

If the Spurs do right by him and show they care about helping him achieve those goals I believe he will be happy to stay here. But if he believes whomever is making the decisions is not setting him up for success sooner rather than later I doubt he has any qualms taking his destiny into his own hands

The FO needs to remember that Victor is not David or Tim and they were extremely lucky to draft guys with their personalities.

[scott]

Sniffers fantasize about some Karate Kid scenario where Wemby is Daniel Larusso, needing Mr. Miyagi to break him down and teach him how to paint a fucking fence for success to follow. The reality is the Wemby is Bruce Lee and can already kick Mr Miyagi's head off his body before he knew what hit him.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/_Andrew_Lopez/status/1763412619023573501

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1763412036816458163

[ace3g]

Victor "Pardon my French" Wembanyama while on the mic.

[SpursFan86]

Fill in the blank: Wemby is the best rookie since _____

I don’t think anyone in this century has an argument at this point. Going back further…Duncan? Shaq? D-Rob? He’s in those guys’ tier IMO. Scary considering he’s far younger than they were as rookies (less so Shaq, but still).

[TimmehC]

In the shortest month of the year, with the ASB in the middle of it.

[spurraider21]

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