The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[Pauleta14]

thats a normal stat line of jokic or giannis minus blocks

You should add quotes to "normal" :lol

And I wonder if either could put those stats in their year 2 btw...

I'm not excusing Wemby for some of his annoying habbits, just pointing out how spoiled we're becoming.

[exstatic]

thats a normal stat line of jokic or giannis minus blocks

And/or steals Jokic’s case. The point is, those guys don’t put up ALL of those stats on the regular. It’s like comparing a double/double with a triple/double. It’s only off by one stat, dude!

[thiste]

https://x.com/Wemby_Muse/status/1891334712427217181

[cutewizard]

To Wemby,

Might you be here in Spurs talk.

Forget about the All Star Game

Focus on your development. Have some sort of inside game.

Why not your own Wemby hook shot.

Be mentored by Timmy in the offseason please.

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/tfjVcrH9toU?si=U7TQTl_cnsPcUj3m

[cutewizard]

Gentlemen,

The Alien and the Joker looked good together tonight hey.......

Do you foresee any possibilities for Joker in Spurs land??

[Knoxxx]

Gentlemen,

The Alien and the Joker looked good together tonight hey.......

Do you foresee any possibilities for Joker in Spurs land??

Not in a world where earning the maximum salary trumps winning.

[cutewizard]

Wonderful Equanimity: At least he took it very cheerfully, hahahahaha

Ohhhhhhhhh Wemby!!!!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6S6XQb9Lmk

[Spursfanfromafar]

Wemby is a mature, smart human being and set to become an all time great basketball player. But he should stop overthinking basketball. Even as a fan, it's clear to me that his and CP3's actions were utterly stupid and only brought infamy at an international scale rather than any other useful outcome. Spurs fans might instinctively want to defend their superstar but the world otherwise would read this stunt as a case of being pound foolish and not even penny wise.

Just play basketball and prove your mite, Wemby. You are better than these stunts and shenanigans. Learn from Duncan, DRob, Manu and Parker.

[RC_Drunkford]

what are you talking about? This is the most attention the skills challenge has received in years. People absolutely loved it.

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl1-WmxCqtY

[BatManu20]

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[Tyronn Lue]

I was a bit perplexed early when Victor kept running to the 3pt line instead of being in paint with Joker on the same team. Jesus imagine that tandem in the RS.

[itzsoweezee]

Anyone watch Court of Gold yet? Is it all USA hype, or worth watching for Wemby behind the scenes footage?

[playbonner15]

Anyone watch Court of Gold yet? Is it all USA hype, or worth watching for Wemby behind the scenes footage?

Haven't watched it yet but I read there's a lot of Wemby interviews and Tony Parker and Diaw were also featured

[ace3g]

NO!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkL73maXIAA8U3K?format=jpg&name=medium

[AusSpur]

Something mysterious and important is happening with Wemby:


https://x.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/1891165318342479888

[Gandalf]

NO!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkL73maXIAA8U3K?format=jpg&name=medium

Well, hopefully for his sake (and the Spurs) he’s better soon. Maybe let Fox get his surgery, might as well.

[DAF86]

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[spurraider21]

Something mysterious and important is happening with Wemby:


https://x.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/1891165318342479888
i mean think about it, tone. sudden weight loss...

[spursparker9]

Well, hopefully for his sake (and the Spurs) he’s better soon. Maybe let Fox get his surgery, might as well.

Tank for flagg! Let Castle cook!

[exstatic]

NO!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkL73maXIAA8U3K?format=jpg&name=medium
Fucking idiots here calling Wemby lazy.

[BackHome]

Damn Bassey has no knees at this point - I don't care if we sign a decent Center free agent this summer, I still want us to draft a Center in the second round.

[Mugen]

i mean think about it, tone. sudden weight loss...

I don't like that kind of tawwwwk. It upsets me.

[baseline bum]

i mean think about it, tone. sudden weight loss...

Oh you think this is funny huh. There's a man's reputation at stake here.

[RC_Drunkford]

Keep the tank rollin

[spurraider21]

i mean think about it, tone. sudden weight loss...


I don't like that kind of tawwwwk. It upsets me.


Oh you think this is funny huh. There's a man's reputation at stake here.
you both got it wrong. my estimation of both of you just fucking plumetted


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ej39EgwfoM

[cutewizard]

What's happening??

[Ice009]

i mean think about it, tone. sudden weight loss...

Think about what? I'm not sure what you're referring to. He hasn't looked right, but I have no clue what is bothering him. I thought someone said it's allergies.

[Extra Stout]

Maybe he has mono.

[cutewizard]

Covid??

[exstatic]

Covid??

No. Apparently, they stilled have to list positive COVID tests on the injury reports. It could be one of the varieties of flu going around.

[cutewizard]

No. Apparently, they stilled have to list positive COVID tests on the injury reports. It could be one of the varieties of flu going around.


Thanks Sir
Hope he recovers quickly.....

[cutewizard]

I'm worried about some sort of basketball tournament again this summer in France

That's too much....I think he should REST this summer and work on his game

Also, to be mentored by Duncan

[baseline bum]

you both got it wrong. my estimation of both of you just fucking plumetted


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ej39EgwfoM

Pop really went downhill after the World Trade Center.

[Mugen]

Always with the scenarios.

[baseline bum]

Think about what? I'm not sure what you're referring to. He hasn't looked right, but I have no clue what is bothering him. I thought someone said it's allergies.

Nobody's got AIDS. And I don't wanna hear that word in here again.

[spurraider21]

Pop really went downhill after the World Trade Center.


Always with the scenarios.
this was the reference i was going for


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SbUt1-N-TU

[RC_Drunkford]

Wemby out for the season

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[baseline bum]

this was the reference i was going for


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SbUt1-N-TU


Nobody's got AIDS. And I don't wanna hear that word in here again.

[baseline bum]

Wemby out for the season

1892631822468551073

Well fuck that escalated quickly. That's some scary shit.

[LeBowen]

Trombosis? What the fuck man, forget about the season, let's just hope this isn't a long-term issue.

[RC_Drunkford]

1892632494475710582

[jiggy_55]

Wow. Absolute shocker.

Can we tank the season now? We have no more bigs

[RC_Drunkford]

The tank is back on. Shut Fox down and let him get surgery on that finger.

[Robz4000]

Wow. His career is prolly done.

[LeBowen]

The tank is back on. Shut Fox down and let him get surgery on that finger.

Damn, where's our boy Zach when we need him.
I'm sure Devin will be back at his best.


Apparently someone posted the news on reddit before Shams, interesting.

[TimDunkem]

Wow. His career is prolly done.

Robz, plz, don't talk like that :cry

[Ice009]

this was the reference i was going for


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SbUt1-N-TU

Oh, OK, thanks. I wasn't sure what you were referring to. If it was a joke or not. I'll have to get back to rewatching the Sopranos from the start. It was a great show. I didn't ever end up finishing watching it. I think I only watched the first few (maybe 4 or 5) seasons and due to lack of time. I started missing episodes and lost track of the series. Sucks that James Gandolfini passed away at a relatively young age.

[TimDunkem]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExczNwM280ZW04a2txamg2aGtvamIxMDh mZXQ2ZDFnb3Z6ZmxremJuMiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/u8u0R51ND9L2/giphy.gif

[Ice009]

Wemby out for the season

1892631822468551073

WTF. I thought the out for the season comments was a joke. How bad is thrombosis?

[baseline bum]

WTF. I thought the out for the season comments was a joke. How bad is thrombosis?

It's pretty fucking serious, but at least didn't become a pulmonary embolism like Bosh had. Ingram had one in his arm in 2019 he came back from.

[Ice009]

It's pretty fucking serious, but at least didn't become a pulmonary embolism like Bosh had. Ingram had one in his arm in 2019 he came back from.

Thanks. I just read about it now in the other thread. I didn't realize it was so serious and also that Bosh had something similar. Do you remember what year Bosh first got it/had it. With Bosh, is it a permanent issue that always has to be managed/treated? Is that why he couldn't play anymore?

[TimDunkem]

Thanks. I just read about it now in the other thread. I didn't realize it was so serious and also that Bosh had something similar. Do you remember what year Bosh first got it/had it. With Bosh, is it a permanent issue that always has to be managed/treated? Is that why he couldn't play anymore?
Correct. It's either going to be a one and done thing, or it will reoccur and his career is over.

[Ice009]

Correct. It's either going to be a one and done thing, or it will reoccur and his career is over.

Alright, thanks. Appreciate it.

Also, all you people that were calling Victor lazy, I hope you fucking feel terrible about it now. It was clear as day something wasn't right this past week or two, but I thought it was that allergies thing that SA residents had mentioned (due to seeing him struggle to breath), so I didn't think it was that serious. It definitely had nothing to do with laziness as you could tell he was having breathing issues. He looked sick out there. Also, I wanted to add, sometimes when someone is referred to as lazy, they may have a medical condition you don't know about. Sometimes, the person themselves also don't know about it. They may be tired, fatigued and people see that on the surface and mistake that for something else. I'd always recommend to get that checked if you're feeling that way constantly, and if diet, getting extra sleep doesn't change anything.

[baseline bum]

Thanks. I just read about it now in the other thread. I didn't realize it was so serious and also that Bosh had something similar. Do you remember what year Bosh first got it/had it. With Bosh, is it a permanent issue that always has to be managed/treated? Is that why he couldn't play anymore?

It re-occured with Bosh. If it happens again with Victor it means he needs to take blood thinners for life and his career is over.

[baseline bum]

Alright, thanks. Appreciate it.

Also, all you people that were calling Victor lazy, I hope you fucking feel terrible about it now. It was clear as day something wasn't right this past week or two, but I thought it was that allergies thing that SA residents had mentioned (due to seeing him struggle to breath), so I didn't think it was that serious. It definitely had nothing to do with laziness as you could tell he was having breathing issues. He looked sick out there. Also, I wanted to add, sometimes when someone is referred to as lazy, they may have a medical condition you don't know about. Sometimes, the person themselves also don't know about it. They may be tired, fatigued and people see that on the surface and mistake that for something else. I'd always recommend to get that checked if you're feeling that way constantly, and if diet, getting extra sleep doesn't change anything.

Yeah the allergies thing seemed a little strange seeing as this has been the lowest cedar pollen season I have seen in San Antonio in a long time, probably 15 years. But they kicked his ass last year for a few days when we had a much more robust cedar pollen season.

[Ice009]

It re-occured with Bosh. If it happens again with Victor it means he needs to take blood thinners for life and his career is over.

OK, shit, that sounds scary. Sucks that it happened that way for Bosh. If taking blood thinners, are you just not able to play sport anymore? Is it an issue of getting hit, hurt and your blood being too thin to not take bumps and bruises or injuries? I assume you also can't go on flights either?


Yeah the allergies thing seemed a little strange seeing as this has been the lowest cedar pollen season I have seen in San Antonio in a long time, probably 15 years. But they kicked his ass last year for a few days when we had a much more robust cedar pollen season.

I do remember you or someone else saying that. I should have put two and two together. When it was mentioned it wasn't as bad as last year, and that only affected Victor for less amount of time, should have realized it was something else this season and not solely related to that.

[baseline bum]

OK, shit, that sounds scary. Sucks that it happened that way for Bosh. If taking blood thinners, are you just not able to play sport anymore? Is it an issue of getting hit, hurt and your blood being too thin to not take bumps and bruises or injuries? I assume you also can't go on flights either?


I don't really know anything about medicine, but I would expect if you're on blood thinners you gotta be careful about cuts and bruises since your blood won't clot as well and then how are you going to be dragging Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes?

[LeBowen]

I don't really know anything about medicine, but I would expect if you're on blood thinners you gotta be careful about cuts and bruises since your blood won't clot as well and then how are you going to be dragging Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes?

My understanding was that it's not allowed to play on blood thinners?
Iirc, Ausar was fine for months but not allowed to play until his 6 months of taking blood thinners were done.

[baseline bum]

My understanding was that it's not allowed to play on blood thinners?
Iirc, Ausar was fine for months but not allowed to play until his 6 months of taking blood thinners were done.

Bosh's doctors cleared him to but the Heat doctors said no fucking way

[cutewizard]

Get well soon Wemby

We love you man....,

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVN1qHsBvk&t=29s

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVN1qHsBvk

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvztH1hlnI4

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhc428dunc

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He6jd15S2k0

[Chomag]

He will come back stronger and hungrier then before. Watch out league!

[itzsoweezee]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2025/2/25/24372230/nba-san-antonio-spurs-victor-wembanyama-seen-shopping-at-a-local-antique-store-bowen-avery-robinson
I love everything about this picture

[cutewizard]

Missing Wemby

[Cardinal]

Did Wemby issue any kind of statement? Would be reassuring to see him/hear from him at some point

[baseline bum]

So with Trump intent on making enemies with our former European allies, how long until Trumptards start booing Wemby at games and he asks for a trade? :stirpot:

[exstatic]

So, for people advocating for the skyhook, maybe it is unblockable, but that’s not the same as undefendable. Watching this video, Kareem makes a few,but if you bump him while he’s turning to launch, you get a lot of clanks.

pjgmZN6RQ4

[Ice009]

video doesn't work for me. Do you have a direct link to it? I can't even click on it and view it directly on Youtube.

[exstatic]

video doesn't work for me. Do you have a direct link to it? I can't even click on it and view it directly on Youtube.

Here you go. Sorry, some videos want to run only in the native YT environment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjgmZN6RQ4&pp=ygUWS2FyZWVtIHNreWhvb2sgMTk4OSA0MQ%3D%3D

[J_Paco]

I don't think he needs a skyhook per say, but he does need to work on his interior scoring arsenal.

A hook shot, running hook, floater, fade away should all be in his package. I saw glimpses of that at the end of last season, but his game was a lot more perimeter oriented this (truncated) season.

I think Victor needs diversity in his moveset and better balance (prioritize inside, close range then three-point, lastly Mid-Range) in his shot diet.

[scott]

Interestingly, the French National Team coach had some comments about Wemby today with two notable tidbits:

1) The coach said he "spoke to Wemby before his surgery" which seems to be the closest to a confirmation that Wemby had a surgery performed
2) They aren't ruling Wemby out of National Team duty this summer

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1jl6vcr/wemby_news_from_french_national_teams_coach/

[dn0774]

When his DVT first came to light it was obviously a gut punch. That being said, a small part of me was relieved he had an out from his French National Team participation given how much basketball he has played over the last 2 years.

Oddly enough, now I am starting to come around to actually kind of hoping he is able to play in August with France. He will have not played competitively for like 5 months by then, knowing what we know of Vic you know he is aching for competition. Vic will also have considerable rust going into next season assuming he is medically cleared to go, perhaps working through some of that with the FNT would be good for him and the Spurs.

[widowmaker]

Considering how the spurs deal with injuries I don't expect him or fox back till after thanksgiving.

[Ice009]

Here you go. Sorry, some videos want to run only in the native YT environment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjgmZN6RQ4&pp=ygUWS2FyZWVtIHNreWhvb2sgMTk4OSA0MQ%3D%3D

Thanks. Pretty interesting seeing it in action rather than in highlights where he's makes them all.

[spurraider21]

interesting decision to take a game from his last season in the NBA when he averaged 10 ppg

its not an "automatic" shot, but its was undefendable. other than the very rare highlight of it getting blocked (famous one where Wilt blocks 2 in a row), you basically take the defender completely out of the equation and it just comes down to whether you make the shot or not. you get good enough at it like kareem did, and you can play until you're 41 and still be effective until nearly the very end

dont kid yourself. this guy was the NBA's leading scorer for a long time. dont take a one game reel at his age 41 season as your counter-argument

[quentin_compson]

Yeah, using a tidbit of KAJ of all players as a negative example (for pretty much anything) seems pretty wild.

[itzsoweezee]

When his DVT first came to light it was obviously a gut punch. That being said, a small part of me was relieved he had an out from his French National Team participation given how much basketball he has played over the last 2 years.

Oddly enough, now I am starting to come around to actually kind of hoping he is able to play in August with France. He will have not played competitively for like 5 months by then, knowing what we know of Vic you know he is aching for competition. Vic will also have considerable rust going into next season assuming he is medically cleared to go, perhaps working through some of that with the FNT would be good for him and the Spurs.

I’d be very surprised if Vic doesn’t play this summer

[spursparker9]

Interestingly, the French National Team coach had some comments about Wemby today with two notable tidbits:

1) The coach said he "spoke to Wemby before his surgery" which seems to be the closest to a confirmation that Wemby had a surgery performed
2) They aren't ruling Wemby out of National Team duty this summer

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1jl6vcr/wemby_news_from_french_national_teams_coach/

Fuck...is Wemby gonna play for national team every seasons in his career???

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Fuck...is Wemby gonna play for national team every seasons in his career???

Most definitely.

At least until he wins olympic and eurobasket gold.

[exstatic]

interesting decision to take a game from his last season in the NBA when he averaged 10 ppg

its not an "automatic" shot, but its was undefendable. other than the very rare highlight of it getting blocked (famous one where Wilt blocks 2 in a row), you basically take the defender completely out of the equation and it just comes down to whether you make the shot or not. you get good enough at it like kareem did, and you can play until you're 41 and still be effective until nearly the very end

dont kid yourself. this guy was the NBA's leading scorer for a long time. dont take a one game reel at his age 41 season as your counter-argument

I would argue the opposite: that it was unblockable , but defendable with the right strategy. You just have to bump the skyhook shooter on the floor as he’s spinning into the shot to throw off the trajectory. Don’t even try to block it.

I’m not trying to paint KAJ in any kind of negative light, just perhaps remove some of the hype and mystique surrounding the skyhook. Wemby doesn’t need one, and if you think Kareem got knocked off his track shooting it, Wemby might never make one with his build.

[Brazil]

Fuck...is Wemby gonna play for national team every seasons in his career???

:lol in that regard he will be worst than Tony, wants to play all

[onechance87]

Interestingly, the French National Team coach had some comments about Wemby today with two notable tidbits:

1) The coach said he "spoke to Wemby before his surgery" which seems to be the closest to a confirmation that Wemby had a surgery performed
2) They aren't ruling Wemby out of National Team duty this summer

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1jl6vcr/wemby_news_from_french_national_teams_coach/

oh is that why hes been missing from the bench at home games recently maybe.

[Ice009]

oh is that why hes been missing from the bench at home games recently maybe.

Yeah, I read that yesterday, so it seems like he had surgery which would have explained why he hasn't been on the bench lately as I asked this question a couple of games ago (Why he wasn't there anymore after they said that he really wanted to be with the team when he attended those few games). Having said that, I thought he already had surgery as another poster mentioned that he'd heard Victor was on vacation after the All-Star game and woke up with pain in his shoulder, went to get it checked and was told he had to have immediate surgery (not sure if this also happened and this is a second surgery to correct something?). Not sure what page/thread that post was in.

[onechance87]

Yeah, I read that yesterday, so it seems like he had surgery which would have explained why he hasn't been on the bench lately as I asked this question a couple of games ago (Why he wasn't there anymore after they said that he really wanted to be with the team when he attended those few games). Having said that, I thought he already had surgery as another poster mentioned that he'd heard Victor was on vacation after the All-Star game and woke up with pain in his shoulder, went to get it checked and was told he had to have immediate surgery (not sure if this also happened and this is a second surgery to correct something?). Not sure what page/thread that post was in.

yea who knows whats going on.Spurs front office keeping this on the down low.

[dn0774]

Yeah, I read that yesterday, so it seems like he had surgery which would have explained why he hasn't been on the bench lately as I asked this question a couple of games ago (Why he wasn't there anymore after they said that he really wanted to be with the team when he attended those few games). Having said that, I thought he already had surgery as another poster mentioned that he'd heard Victor was on vacation after the All-Star game and woke up with pain in his shoulder, went to get it checked and was told he had to have immediate surgery (not sure if this also happened and this is a second surgery to correct something?). Not sure what page/thread that post was in.

Yea, I remember reading that post like a week ago. It was a rumor that in all likelihood just wasn't true (friend probably just relayed info wrong, maybe Vic got looked at and "treated" aka blood thinners or an injection to break up the clot). I do appreciate people posting what they hear as rumors true or false can be interesting (shout out Hans Landa).

[Ice009]

yea who knows whats going on.Spurs front office keeping this on the down low.

Yeah, I just don't know.


Yea, I remember reading that post like a week ago. It was a rumor that in all likelihood just wasn't true (friend probably just relayed info wrong, maybe Vic got looked at and "treated" aka blood thinners or an injection to break up the clot). I do appreciate people posting what they hear as rumors true or false can be interesting (shout out Hans Landa).

I agree with you about people posting what they know (Even if it ends up being incorrect. I think the person did say to take it with a grain of salt and it's just what he had heard). That was the post, so you definitely read it too. It sounded pretty credible. I think he said he heard if from a friend who knew someone in the Spurs organization or one of the Spurs doctors. Can't remember exactly. Wish I knew where that post was to go back and re-read it.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4FXqZvYq-Q

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvnm6TfmpQ

[SupremeGuy]

I know it's his own personal decision but choosing surgery so he can play for France this summer feels wrong tbh.

I was looking forward to a completely rested and healthy Wemby next year. I get it, I sound selfish, but fuck man.

[Ni-G]

There may be something in Wemby playing there.
France is in a group with Poland and Jeremy posted in polish on X something like: I can't wait, nice group, Victor,get ready!

[Ice009]

I know it's his own personal decision but choosing surgery so he can play for France this summer feels wrong tbh.

I was looking forward to a completely rested and healthy Wemby next year. I get it, I sound selfish, but fuck man.

Who said he got the surgery to be able to play for France?

[SupremeGuy]

Who said he got the surgery to be able to play for France?Wemby went MIA and then the french coach said "he's motivated to be part of the team."

Shit man, doesn't take much to read between the lines.

Did he straight up say "I'm having surgery for a quicker turnaround so that I can play for France! Vive France!?" Of course not.

[The Truth #6]

I'm looking at the big picture, and the fact that he had surgery I think is a good indirect indication of the nature of his illness. I guess we'll say. To me, the surgery suggests thoracic outlet syndrome, meaning that this procedure should hopefully clear him up moving forward in the same way it did for Ausar Thompson. But just me speculating on the information suggested, et cetera.

[dn0774]

Wemby went MIA and then the french coach said "he's motivated to be part of the team."

Shit man, doesn't take much to read between the lines.

Did he straight up say "I'm having surgery for a quicker turnaround so that I can play for France! Vive France!?" Of course not.

Assuming the surgery he had was the one to free up the area where the DVT occurred (shoulder), that was always the ideal/expected course of action to treat this. The YouTube doctors were saying to expect that procedure to happen in the near future as well. If team France weren’t playing this summer, this still would have been the remedy used to hopefully prevent this from reoccurring.

[Pauleta14]

Having a player playing for his NT in the summer is always a plus for NBA franchises.

No idea why there are still so many clichés and misconceptions about it in 2025 tbh...

The NBA break is way too long and playing with the NT keep them not only in shape and game condition but also getting better for the youngest of them.

It raises their BBIQ bc they're forced to adapt to diff rules that aren't "comfortable" for anyone playing NBA basketball for so long and also humbled by unknown players, also a plus.

In the end, players will train and play pickup games anyway, which brings the same type of risk of injury.

Spurs fans should want Wemby to play with France this summer after being inactive for so long.

[Ice009]

Has anything been reported in the French media that we may not have heard? Then again, probably not as someone here or reddit would have posted it already.

[SupremeGuy]

Assuming the surgery he had was the one to free up the area where the DVT occurred (shoulder), that was always the ideal/expected course of action to treat this. The YouTube doctors were saying to expect that procedure to happen in the near future as well. If team France weren’t playing this summer, this still would have been the remedy used to hopefully prevent this from reoccurring.I'm not him and he's free to do whatever he wants tbh.

It's been, what? 7 weeks maybe. Blood thinners are the least invasive, least risk, etc. If in May or June, there wasn't substantial progress; then yes of course surgery would be an option.

I dunno, just seems weird in regards to the Spurs.

[baseline bum]

Having a player playing for his NT in the summer is always a plus for NBA franchises.

No idea why there are still so many clichés and misconceptions about it in 2025 tbh...

The NBA break is way too long and playing with the NT keep them not only in shape and game condition but also getting better for the youngest of them.

It raises their BBIQ bc they're forced to adapt to diff rules that aren't "comfortable" for anyone playing NBA basketball for so long and also humbled by unknown players, also a plus.

In the end, players will train and play pickup games anyway, which brings the same type of risk of injury.

Spurs fans should want Wemby to play with France this summer after being inactive for so long.

You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him hell the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.

[dn0774]

I'm not him and he's free to do whatever he wants tbh.

It's been, what? 7 weeks maybe. Blood thinners are the least invasive, least risk, etc. If in May or June, there wasn't substantial progress; then yes of course surgery would be an option.

I dunno, just seems weird in regards to the Spurs.

My (very limited) understanding was that going on blood thinners are an almost instantaneous reaction to discovering a clot and that this isn't a one or the other (blood thinners or surgery) kind of remedy. Based on what I had read the surgery was very likely to happen if the doctors felt there was an issue with how his blood travels in his shoulder.

Mind you, locating an issue in his shoulder and correcting it surgically is actually a great outcome long term. That means it is unlikely to reoccur and the clot shouldn't have been due to a genetic factor which carries implications on whether he can continue his career. This isn't the typical case where having/needing surgery is a bad outcome like it is with most injuries. Having surgery means they are confident they can correct what caused the clot to form in the first place and he can go on with living his life. I would have more long term concerns of this happening again if he just did the 6 month round of blood thinners and then they gave him a thumbs up to play again.

[Ice009]

You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him hell the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.

I knew David had a back injury and I also remember him missing a playoff game or so in 2002 (how many games was it?) as they said he can't guard Shaq if he loses feeling in his leg as he might get hurt seriously if trying to play. I thought I remember reading a piece of disc hitting a nerve or something, but could be completely wrong. My memory isn't great. I had no idea he hurt it in the Olympics, though. That sucks. I was always wondering why he wasn't the same around that time. What was his injuries in the 1996-97 season? Was the back one of them?

[LeBowen]

I would have more long term concerns of this happening again if he just did the 6 month round of blood thinners and then they gave him a thumbs up to play again.

Yeah, was just thinking about this. Better off to deal with the issue via surgery than have something as harmful as blood thinners in your system for 6 months.

[Ice009]

Yeah, was just thinking about this. Better off to deal with the issue via surgery than have something as harmful as blood thinners in your system for 6 months.

Is being on blood thinners for a longer amount of time not good?

[LeBowen]

Is being on blood thinners for a longer amount of time not good?

I'm no medical expert, but having something that puts you at the risk of bleeding out from otherwise harmless injuries can't be good.

[baseline bum]

I knew David had a back injury and I also remember him missing a playoff game or so in 2002 (how many games was it?) as they said he can't guard Shaq if he loses feeling in his leg as he might get hurt seriously if trying to play. I thought I remember reading a piece of disc hitting a nerve or something, but could be completely wrong. My memory isn't great. I had no idea he hurt it in the Olympics, though. That sucks. I was always wondering why he wasn't the same around that time. What was his injuries in the 1996-97 season? Was the back one of them?

The back is why he missed the first 20-25 games of 96-97, then David broke his foot around his fifth game back and that ended his season. He missed the first two games of the series against the Lakers in 02, and I think he might have missed some of the Seattle series before that. I was at Game 3 of that series and I don't think any of us knew whether David was going to play so he got an enormous ovation when he was announced in the starting lineup.

[BackHome]

Hope Wemby recovers quickly from Surgery - Which I don't think is that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things

[Pauleta14]

You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him hell the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.

I'm unfortunately old enough to remember, even if I wasn't following closely the Spurs at that time (I really started with TD's draft).

His participation to the Olympics was a correlation and not a causation to his injury imo.

I've read many of STers talk about his lack of core strength(ening) and I can assume that the conditioning, preparation and recuperation wasn't what it is now. That injury was meant to happen. Since then, training staff have learned a lot on how to manage and train big bodies the proper way.

It's not like 50% of the team came back injured. There's also the chance/luck factor that can happen even with all the precautions, even during a simple training...

They play a much higher level of team basketball and come back better players all while keeping a good physical conditions.

Every rules have exceptions

Then it's up to the NBA team's trainers to be smart enough to adapt the player's training camp regimen in case, like last summer, the end of the competition is too close to the start of training camp (Wemby only had 2 weeks break iirrc)

[Brazil]

I know it's his own personal decision but choosing surgery so he can play for France this summer feels wrong tbh.

I was looking forward to a completely rested and healthy Wemby next year. I get it, I sound selfish, but fuck man.

That is a weird statement. First if you need a surgery the sooner the better, why are you linking surgery with playing for France ? He did not do a surgery to play for France he did it because he needed it. Then for the Spurs, I only see positive if he plays this summer better that than staying 8 months without playing competitive basketball. Playing for France or not he will be rested and healthy, if he play for France he will be both and with some rythm

[rjv]

manu also had an ankle injury in the olympics that required surgery. Pop had asked Manu not to play in the Olympics because his ankle was already hobbled before the games began. manu insisted that playing did not make the ankle any worse but he missed most of the semi-final game and the rest of the Olympics after that. while it might have been true that manu would have needed surgery anyways, it certainly didn't help the timeline.

[Maddog]

typical for a provoked DVT is 6 weeks to 3 months anti coagulation after the transient risk factor has been resolved

[dn0774]

manu also had an ankle injury in the olympics that required surgery. Pop had asked Manu not to play in the Olympics because his ankle was already hobbled before the games began. manu insisted that playing did not make the ankle any worse but he missed most of the semi-final game and the rest of the Olympics after that. while it might have been true that manu would have needed surgery anyways, it certainly didn't help the timeline.

Was that 2008 or 2012? I vaguely recall him having a nasty ankle sprain in the 2002 FIBA World Cup the summer before he came to the Spurs.

[dn0774]

typical for a provoked DVT is 6 weeks to 3 months anti coagulation after the transient risk factor has been resolved

How long after blood thinners stop being taken can a person resume contact sports assuming they aren't considered to be at risk for another clot?

[CGD]

The back is why he missed the first 20-25 games of 96-97, then David broke his foot around his fifth game back and that ended his season. He missed the first two games of the series against the Lakers in 02, and I think he might have missed some of the Seattle series before that. I was at Game 3 of that series and I don't think any of us knew whether David was going to play so he got an enormous ovation when he was announced in the starting lineup.

So basically you’re saying we’re on track to land AJ Dybantsa, I see.

[CGD]

I'm unfortunately old enough to remember, even if I wasn't following closely the Spurs at that time (I really started with TD's draft).

His participation to the Olympics was a correlation and not a causation to his injury imo.

I've read many of STers talk about his lack of core strength(ening) and I can assume that the conditioning, preparation and recuperation wasn't what it is now. That injury was meant to happen. Since then, training staff have learned a lot on how to manage and train big bodies the proper way.

It's not like 50% of the team came back injured. There's also the chance/luck factor that can happen even with all the precautions, even during a simple training...

They play a much higher level of team basketball and come back better players all while keeping a good physical conditions.

Every rules have exceptions

Then it's up to the NBA team's trainers to be smart enough to adapt the player's training camp regimen in case, like last summer, the end of the competition is too close to the start of training camp (Wemby only had 2 weeks break iirrc)

Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.

[rjv]

Was that 2008 or 2012? I vaguely recall him having a nasty ankle sprain in the 2002 FIBA World Cup the summer before he came to the Spurs.

2008

[exstatic]

Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.

When they were putting together the 92 Olympics Dream Team, MJ’s first call was David. Let that sink in.

[ambchang]

Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.

Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.

[exstatic]

Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.

Garnett always had the team list him at 6’11” so people wouldn’t want him to play center, so they have that in common, the desire to be more perimeter oriented.

[KobesAchilles]

You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him hell the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.
Didn’t he screw up his knee when Malone knocked him out cold. I thought a lot of his lost athleticism was due to both back and knee problems. It was a long time ago but i thought he made mention of his knee never feeling right after that.

[KobesAchilles]

Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.
It’s weird bc Robinson was like a hybrid Giannis/Garnett. He definitely preferred to take jumpers like Garnett and had no real end of game go to move like Garnett. But the thing is that Dave just ran and jumped like a deer and that’s something Garnett just never had. Dave could catch a lob from anywhere and was a quick second jump type of player which is just super rare.

Dave in this era would be the best player in the league though. And I think him and Jokic would be seen as a real rivalry with both of them having multiple MVPs. He’d also have ALL of Goberts DPOY awards.

[LeBowen]

It’s weird bc Robinson was like a hybrid Giannis/Garnett. He definitely preferred to take jumpers like Garnett and had no real end of game go to move like Garnett. But the thing is that Dave just ran and jumped like a deer and that’s something Garnett just never had. Dave could catch a lob from anywhere and was a quick second jump type of player which is just super rare.

Dave in this era would be the best player in the league though. And I think him and Jokic would be seen as a real rivalry with both of them having multiple MVPs. He’d also have ALL of Goberts DPOY awards.

Imo, not counting shooters due to obvious reasons, he's the all-time great who would benefit the most from modern basketball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvD3DlzusBI

Can't even say Giannis would have better handles if Admiral was developing his skills in the modern era.

[baseline bum]

Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.

I don't think KG had anything approaching Prime DRob's agility nor athleticism which is why I choose Giannis as the closest comparison.

[baseline bum]

It’s weird bc Robinson was like a hybrid Giannis/Garnett. He definitely preferred to take jumpers like Garnett and had no real end of game go to move like Garnett. But the thing is that Dave just ran and jumped like a deer and that’s something Garnett just never had. Dave could catch a lob from anywhere and was a quick second jump type of player which is just super rare.

Dave in this era would be the best player in the league though. And I think him and Jokic would be seen as a real rivalry with both of them having multiple MVPs. He’d also have ALL of Goberts DPOY awards.

Yeah if David played in this era where your big has to be able to switch onto guards and hit jumpers JFC would he be dominant. And no way he doesn't develop a three in this era.

[ambchang]

It’s weird bc Robinson was like a hybrid Giannis/Garnett. He definitely preferred to take jumpers like Garnett and had no real end of game go to move like Garnett. But the thing is that Dave just ran and jumped like a deer and that’s something Garnett just never had. Dave could catch a lob from anywhere and was a quick second jump type of player which is just super rare.

Dave in this era would be the best player in the league though. And I think him and Jokic would be seen as a real rivalry with both of them having multiple MVPs. He’d also have ALL of Goberts DPOY awards.

I’m not sure about that. Dave was a superior athlete but I don’t think he really understood the game like the best of them. I think malik rose said Dave was the dumbest smart person ever, they’d go out from a timeout and Dave was like “what was that play about?” And Malik’s like “that’s your play!” The game has changed so much. In the 90s superior athleticism can take you to a very high level, but I felt in today’s game it’s not about understanding the game with all the movements and cuts. I still think Dave would be great, and not like he was stupid and clueless, but Dave would have a hard time excelling in the plays that are much more complex in today’s game.

[Ice009]

That's weird. Doesn't D-Rob have a pretty high IQ. I know certain things (even simple things) can be hard to understand for some people, but I wouldn't have thought D-Rob would have a hard time understanding basketball plays?

[KobesAchilles]

I’m not sure about that. Dave was a superior athlete but I don’t think he really understood the game like the best of them. I think malik rose said Dave was the dumbest smart person ever, they’d go out from a timeout and Dave was like “what was that play about?” And Malik’s like “that’s your play!” The game has changed so much. In the 90s superior athleticism can take you to a very high level, but I felt in today’s game it’s not about understanding the game with all the movements and cuts. I still think Dave would be great, and not like he was stupid and clueless, but Dave would have a hard time excelling in the plays that are much more complex in today’s game.
Yeah I don’t think really much of that is correct. I actually think the game is easier today than it ever has been. It’s why players like LeBron, KD, Steph can put up their counting stats without really breaking a sweat. It’s also why Vic can average nearly 25 a game as a second year player despite not really knowing what to do on offense all the time. The league literally put rules in place to help offense.

With today’s small ass players, a prime DRob would just demolish everyone. He is faster than every center in the league. He is bigger than all of them except two. And he is too quick for Joker and Embiid. The only player I can think of that had Drobs size and athleticism is Wilt. Not even Giannis is on DRobs level for that. And Giannis gets 30 a game just by blowing by people on pick n roll. In today’s NBA, that’s all Robinson would need to do to score. Lucky for him though that unlike Giannis, Robinson had a jumper.

Now as far as Robinson bb iq, I have made mention numerous times on this site that if I were to draft one player from the history of the sport, it would be David Robinson. And that’s primarily bc the man was so great despite never being taught how to play basketball. Long rant ahead.

Think about it. He went to Navy. Fucking Navy in the 80s for college. Wtf does Navy know about college basketball? Nothing. Imagine if he went to Dean Smith in North Carolina and was actually taught the game of basketball. I actually went back and watched some old tape of Robinson Navy games and it was atrocious basketball. Holy shit if that wasn’t the epitome of what you were talking about with just Robinson being gifted and relying on athleticism. Defensively it was Dave bail us out and offensively it was a shit show.

So Robinson spent 4 years “learning” basketball from a place that barely knows how to keep boats afloat. Then he takes 2 years off completely from basketball. And do the Spurs hire a coach to train him? To teach him the system or break down film, or work on his game? Nope. Not one iota. It’s just 2 years off (including being schooled by Sabonis) and we give him Larry Brown. And Larry Brown was the first person who ever taught Robinson how to play basketball. It was such an eye opening experience that 30 years later Robinson chose him as his representative for the HOF. And Brown taught him for all of a season and a half. Might’ve been 2 seasons, it’s been so long ago I forgot.

But Brown has to deal with McCombs and leaves. Now Robinson in his prime has zero people to teach him how to play basketball. He learns literally 6 different systems in 5 years. And his best coach during that timeframe is Bob Hill. The guy who told Durant he wouldn’t make it as a SF in the league. And then Robinson gets hurt, loses his athleticism, and is just never the same guy. And by the time Pop gets him, it’s too late. He’s not a young buck anymore and he still never learns the game at a high level. Pop is focused on Timmy.

Now imagine a world where Dave went to NC. Was coached 3 years by Dean Smith. Got drafted to a competent franchise instead of the shit show that was SA. He had an actual game plan around him and dint waste 2 years of his career on the Navy. Imagine for instance if he went from Larry Brown to Chuck Daly (instead of 17 game Tark) and then he gets Pop. He’s taught by 4 HOF coaches. Now he has the smarts, and with all 4 of them being his coach he has the drive too bc if there’s one thing Smith, Brown, Pop, and Daly believe in it’s that details and little things matter. So D-Rob is brought up the right way. And he knows the game of basketball on a Timmy D level. And then imagine if he doesn’t get hurt. So you have the most gifted athlete maybe in NBA history, with a drive too bc improve, with knowledge of the game, and a surrounded by people who actually know what the fuck they are doing. It’s a scary thought. And tbh I think he would’ve been up there with Kareem as the best center ever.

[scott]

Modern day DRob is probably also something like a 37% 3P shooter on decent volume. He'd be as much the unicorn as everyone is counting on Wemby to be.

[ambchang]

That's weird. Doesn't D-Rob have a pretty high IQ. I know certain things (even simple things) can be hard to understand for some people, but I wouldn't have thought D-Rob would have a hard time understanding basketball plays?

DRob is and engineering mind, super smart in that aspect. I think he was building TVs or something like that for fun when he was grade 10 or something like that. Basketball, or sports in general is just so different. It’s more about positioning, reading plays, guessing what will happen next, anticipating, so on and so forth.

Frankly I was really surprise when I heard Malik say that, I’m like no way someone who excelled in the game like drob did just coasted on athleticism alone. I personally think it was taken out of context and was put in for TV more than anything and would destroy everyone of us here when talking basketball knowledge, but DRob never really stood out as some insane basketball mind though, like a magic, bird, Jokic and such. And this is coming from a guy who became a basketball fan because of him.

[ambchang]

Yeah I don’t think really much of that is correct. I actually think the game is easier today than it ever has been. It’s why players like LeBron, KD, Steph can put up their counting stats without really breaking a sweat. It’s also why Vic can average nearly 25 a game as a second year player despite not really knowing what to do on offense all the time. The league literally put rules in place to help offense.

With today’s small ass players, a prime DRob would just demolish everyone. He is faster than every center in the league. He is bigger than all of them except two. And he is too quick for Joker and Embiid. The only player I can think of that had Drobs size and athleticism is Wilt. Not even Giannis is on DRobs level for that. And Giannis gets 30 a game just by blowing by people on pick n roll. In today’s NBA, that’s all Robinson would need to do to score. Lucky for him though that unlike Giannis, Robinson had a jumper.

Now as far as Robinson bb iq, I have made mention numerous times on this site that if I were to draft one player from the history of the sport, it would be David Robinson. And that’s primarily bc the man was so great despite never being taught how to play basketball. Long rant ahead.

Think about it. He went to Navy. Fucking Navy in the 80s for college. Wtf does Navy know about college basketball? Nothing. Imagine if he went to Dean Smith in North Carolina and was actually taught the game of basketball. I actually went back and watched some old tape of Robinson Navy games and it was atrocious basketball. Holy shit if that wasn’t the epitome of what you were talking about with just Robinson being gifted and relying on athleticism. Defensively it was Dave bail us out and offensively it was a shit show.

So Robinson spent 4 years “learning” basketball from a place that barely knows how to keep boats afloat. Then he takes 2 years off completely from basketball. And do the Spurs hire a coach to train him? To teach him the system or break down film, or work on his game? Nope. Not one iota. It’s just 2 years off (including being schooled by Sabonis) and we give him Larry Brown. And Larry Brown was the first person who ever taught Robinson how to play basketball. It was such an eye opening experience that 30 years later Robinson chose him as his representative for the HOF. And Brown taught him for all of a season and a half. Might’ve been 2 seasons, it’s been so long ago I forgot.

But Brown has to deal with McCombs and leaves. Now Robinson in his prime has zero people to teach him how to play basketball. He learns literally 6 different systems in 5 years. And his best coach during that timeframe is Bob Hill. The guy who told Durant he wouldn’t make it as a SF in the league. And then Robinson gets hurt, loses his athleticism, and is just never the same guy. And by the time Pop gets him, it’s too late. He’s not a young buck anymore and he still never learns the game at a high level. Pop is focused on Timmy.

Now imagine a world where Dave went to NC. Was coached 3 years by Dean Smith. Got drafted to a competent franchise instead of the shit show that was SA. He had an actual game plan around him and dint waste 2 years of his career on the Navy. Imagine for instance if he went from Larry Brown to Chuck Daly (instead of 17 game Tark) and then he gets Pop. He’s taught by 4 HOF coaches. Now he has the smarts, and with all 4 of them being his coach he has the drive too bc if there’s one thing Smith, Brown, Pop, and Daly believe in it’s that details and little things matter. So D-Rob is brought up the right way. And he knows the game of basketball on a Timmy D level. And then imagine if he doesn’t get hurt. So you have the most gifted athlete maybe in NBA history, with a drive too bc improve, with knowledge of the game, and a surrounded by people who actually know what the fuck they are doing. It’s a scary thought. And tbh I think he would’ve been up there with Kareem as the best center ever.

Oh I agreed the admiral never got a proper basketball education, and plays in the 90s were pretty darn simple. I’m not sure if drob would soak up that basketball knowledge if he grew up with it, but the fact is his upbringing valued academics much more than athletics. A guy like duncan never played organized ball until 16 and he soaked that knowledge up quick. I would dare say the admiral was much more athletic than duncan but the big fundamental is a much better athletic mind.

As for stats, I agree the rule changes make scoring much easier. I’m not even sure it’s debatable anymore, but the plays are also much more complex, making scoring even easier if you know how to run plays. Good point about Giannis just bulldozing people for points, and he got a title out of it, it that was one strong team as people forgot how good Jrue was and how important Middletons secondary play making was. Giannis was a finisher and he did it well, I had no doubt robinson is the better finisher between the two but that is not the type of player who is easy to build around today.

[SupremeGuy]

Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.There's no fucking way Giannis is stronger than the Admiral.

Unless I'm letting bias and nostalgia take over, but I really fucking doubt it.

David was a fucking beast.

[ambchang]

Yeah I don’t think really much of that is correct. I actually think the game is easier today than it ever has been. It’s why players like LeBron, KD, Steph can put up their counting stats without really breaking a sweat. It’s also why Vic can average nearly 25 a game as a second year player despite not really knowing what to do on offense all the time. The league literally put rules in place to help offense.

With today’s small ass players, a prime DRob would just demolish everyone. He is faster than every center in the league. He is bigger than all of them except two. And he is too quick for Joker and Embiid. The only player I can think of that had Drobs size and athleticism is Wilt. Not even Giannis is on DRobs level for that. And Giannis gets 30 a game just by blowing by people on pick n roll. In today’s NBA, that’s all Robinson would need to do to score. Lucky for him though that unlike Giannis, Robinson had a jumper.

Now as far as Robinson bb iq, I have made mention numerous times on this site that if I were to draft one player from the history of the sport, it would be David Robinson. And that’s primarily bc the man was so great despite never being taught how to play basketball. Long rant ahead.

Think about it. He went to Navy. Fucking Navy in the 80s for college. Wtf does Navy know about college basketball? Nothing. Imagine if he went to Dean Smith in North Carolina and was actually taught the game of basketball. I actually went back and watched some old tape of Robinson Navy games and it was atrocious basketball. Holy shit if that wasn’t the epitome of what you were talking about with just Robinson being gifted and relying on athleticism. Defensively it was Dave bail us out and offensively it was a shit show.

So Robinson spent 4 years “learning” basketball from a place that barely knows how to keep boats afloat. Then he takes 2 years off completely from basketball. And do the Spurs hire a coach to train him? To teach him the system or break down film, or work on his game? Nope. Not one iota. It’s just 2 years off (including being schooled by Sabonis) and we give him Larry Brown. And Larry Brown was the first person who ever taught Robinson how to play basketball. It was such an eye opening experience that 30 years later Robinson chose him as his representative for the HOF. And Brown taught him for all of a season and a half. Might’ve been 2 seasons, it’s been so long ago I forgot.

But Brown has to deal with McCombs and leaves. Now Robinson in his prime has zero people to teach him how to play basketball. He learns literally 6 different systems in 5 years. And his best coach during that timeframe is Bob Hill. The guy who told Durant he wouldn’t make it as a SF in the league. And then Robinson gets hurt, loses his athleticism, and is just never the same guy. And by the time Pop gets him, it’s too late. He’s not a young buck anymore and he still never learns the game at a high level. Pop is focused on Timmy.

Now imagine a world where Dave went to NC. Was coached 3 years by Dean Smith. Got drafted to a competent franchise instead of the shit show that was SA. He had an actual game plan around him and dint waste 2 years of his career on the Navy. Imagine for instance if he went from Larry Brown to Chuck Daly (instead of 17 game Tark) and then he gets Pop. He’s taught by 4 HOF coaches. Now he has the smarts, and with all 4 of them being his coach he has the drive too bc if there’s one thing Smith, Brown, Pop, and Daly believe in it’s that details and little things matter. So D-Rob is brought up the right way. And he knows the game of basketball on a Timmy D level. And then imagine if he doesn’t get hurt. So you have the most gifted athlete maybe in NBA history, with a drive too bc improve, with knowledge of the game, and a surrounded by people who actually know what the fuck they are doing. It’s a scary thought. And tbh I think he would’ve been up there with Kareem as the best center ever.

Oh I agreed the admiral never got a proper basketball education, and plays in the 90s were pretty darn simple. I’m not sure if drob would soak up that basketball knowledge if he grew up with it, but the fact is his upbringing valued academics much more than athletics. A guy like duncan never played organized ball until 16 and he soaked that knowledge up quick. I would dare say the admiral was much more athletic than duncan but the big fundamental is a much better athletic mind.

As for stats, I agree the rule changes make scoring much easier. I’m not even sure it’s debatable anymore, but the plays are also much more complex, making scoring even easier if you know how to run plays. Good point about Giannis just bulldozing people for points, and he got a title out of it, it that was one strong team as people forgot how good Jrue was and how important Middletons secondary play making was. Giannis was a finisher and he did it well, I had no doubt robinson is the better finisher between the two but that is not the type of player who is easy to build around today.

[Maddog]

How long after blood thinners stop being taken can a person resume contact sports assuming they aren't considered to be at risk for another clot?


24 hours
but usually 48 to be safe

[CGD]

Imo, not counting shooters due to obvious reasons, he's the all-time great who would benefit the most from modern basketball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvD3DlzusBI

Can't even say Giannis would have better handles if Admiral was developing his skills in the modern era.

Totally agree. Dave was made for this current era on the NBA. Interesting “what if.” I do think Wemby’s game is more admiral than Timmy.

The other thing I took away for that video is boy it’d be nice to have a Terry Cummings for Wemby.

[Thomas82]

I knew David had a back injury and I also remember him missing a playoff game or so in 2002 (how many games was it?) as they said he can't guard Shaq if he loses feeling in his leg as he might get hurt seriously if trying to play. I thought I remember reading a piece of disc hitting a nerve or something, but could be completely wrong. My memory isn't great. I had no idea he hurt it in the Olympics, though. That sucks. I was always wondering why he wasn't the same around that time. What was his injuries in the 1996-97 season? Was the back one of them?

He also had a hernia during the Olympics. It came out during one of the games and he pushed it back in and kept playing.

[mystargtr34]

In todays pace and space era prime Dave would average 33-14-5 with 3-4 blocks and 2 steals. He would be a monster.

[Limguogolo]

You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him hell the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.
Cherry picking? Thirty years ago, during season xx, x player played in x international competition in which he suffered x injury. Apart from that, most of the time, playing, gaining experience, developing physically and mentally is beneficial for the players, the NTs and the franchise.

The players are not paid. They are estranged from their family. I doubt that all the international players who play to these tournaments do so for patriotic reasons. They go there because it benefits them. To think that this is not the case is quite surprising coming from a Spurs fan who nevertheless has a culture of, yes, thirty years of these offseasons. Not accepting them looks more like the decisions of small franchises, those who think that drafting international players high, bringing them in to integrate them into D-league rosters that have the level of a third division in a handful of European championships is a good decision. To polish jewels, you have to work on them. Not let them languish in their box.


Better a player who starts his season in good shape than a player injured in training or another who draws a gun during an online video, rushes for food or has a car accident, all because he is bored during the six months off of the year.


Players are not prohibited from driving because they may have an accident. They are not forbidden from taking the helicopter because it can crash. They are not prohibited from flying even though statically this increases the risk of venous thrombosis. Baths have not been banned in France since the national pop star was electrocuted there.


If Victor is fully recovered and in good physical condition, if he wants to come to NT to get his butt kicked by Poland, he should come. This can only be beneficial for him, and therefore for Spurs.


One day, I was served a cold pizza at a restaurant. I have refused to eat it ever since. I've been eating croissants ever since. Every day. Partly because I hoped that crescent after crescent, I would eventually get down the full moon ("moving mountains" in NBA rules). Today, I'm going to eat pizza.

[Ni-G]

If Victor is fully recovered and in good physical condition, if he wants to come to NT to get his butt kicked by Poland, he should come. This can only be beneficial for him, and therefore for Spurs.




LOL, it's not going to happen, there is no chance that we can beat France, with or without Vic, even playing home.
I hope we can still put up a good fight but talent gap is huge.

[scott]

Totally agree. Dave was made for this current era on the NBA. Interesting “what if.” I do think Wemby’s game is more admiral than Timmy.

The other thing I took away for that video is boy it’d be nice to have a Terry Cummings for Wemby.

I've been saying this since the moment we drafted Wemby. Someone to teach him by example of how to be a winning professional. We got it close enough in CP3 and Barnes this season, though neither are on the level that TC was on-the-court David's rookie year. It's a moot point now, but I think that would have really helped Wemby his rookie year.

[scott]

Totally agree. Dave was made for this current era on the NBA. Interesting “what if.” I do think Wemby’s game is more admiral than Timmy.

The other thing I took away for that video is boy it’d be nice to have a Terry Cummings for Wemby.

I've been saying this since the moment we drafted Wemby. Someone to teach him by example of how to be a winning professional. We got it close enough in CP3 and Barnes this season, though neither are on the level that TC was on-the-court David's rookie year. It's a moot point now, but I think that would have really helped Wemby his rookie year.

[John B]

Totally agree. Dave was made for this current era on the NBA. Interesting “what if.” I do think Wemby’s game is more admiral than Timmy.

The other thing I took away for that video is boy it’d be nice to have a Terry Cummings for Wemby.

Neither. Both were NBA strong on their rookie year and could mix it up in the paint with the likes of Ewing, Malone, Barkley or Shaq, Webber, Garnett for Timmy. Granted DRob didn’t really back his defender like a traditional big, more like a spin-move. But nobody’s taking the ball off his claws lest they lose an arm. I doubt if Wemby’s body will ever develop mass to pound inside. Wemby will likely be a more KD face in the basket style and occasionally Garnett moves.

[BatManu20]

1907836854612709457

[CGD]

^ random tweet

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I’m not sure about that. Dave was a superior athlete but I don’t think he really understood the game like the best of them. I think malik rose said Dave was the dumbest smart person ever, they’d go out from a timeout and Dave was like “what was that play about?” And Malik’s like “that’s your play!” The game has changed so much. In the 90s superior athleticism can take you to a very high level, but I felt in today’s game it’s not about understanding the game with all the movements and cuts. I still think Dave would be great, and not like he was stupid and clueless, but Dave would have a hard time excelling in the plays that are much more complex in today’s game.

Who is your GOAT?

[ambchang]

Who is your GOAT?

Depends on criteria

Narratives - jordan. 6-0 in finals, stopped greats from winning during his reign (Ewing, pedo, Stockton, Barkley, robinson, shaq, miller, Hakeem only won during the two year stint, Payton and kemp), scoring titles, steals titles, highest blocks for a guard, all nba, defensive teams, mvps, DPoY, Roy basically at accolade that a player can get. Commercially fhe most incredible athlete one can think of, took the nba to new heights. I think Pippen was massively underrated and Jordan wouldn’t have won on any other team, at least not as much. That bulls team was tailor made for him winning titles.

Skill set - lebron. He can score, pass, defend, direct offence, half court, full court, shoot later on on his career, ridiculously long prime. Got titles, all the accolades, scoring leader despite him supposedly being an even better passer. He can really do it all.

Building a team - duncan. Won two titles with no all nba/all star teammates in 99 and 03. Built a dynasty in a small market and I don’t recall anyone else ever doing that. Led the spurs to titles in vastly different setups (99 vs 03 vs 05/07 vs 14). Only player with Russell to win two titles on the same franchise with totally different teammates. Can carry a defense on very different defensive schemes, can carry an offense in his prime but also be a major cog past his prime. No drama, led by example.

[Patt]

Where is Wemby, he was at the home games in early March and even travelled to some games. he's been missing for 2 or 3 weeks now.

[Ice009]

Where is Wemby, he was at the home games in early March and even travelled to some games. he's been missing for 2 or 3 weeks now.

I am not sure, but it's likely due to the surgery he had recently (I think he had the surgery 2-3 weeks ago, so that was around the time he stopped coming to the games). I was wondering if he's going to be at the last home game of the season.

[Patt]

I am not sure, but it's likely due to the surgery he had recently (I think he had the surgery 2-3 weeks ago, so that was around the time he stopped coming to the games). I was wondering if he's going to be at the last home game of the season.

thanks. weird that the spurs haven't mentioned the surgery at all.

[Pauleta14]

Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.

It's not even close imo

I laughed at LBJ's "Giannis would score 250pts...", Giannis dominates bc of the ridiculous spacing of today's game and the fact that you don't have to go through Bigs to win. He would struggle in any other eras bc his mid range isn't reliable and his post game isn't very rich/diverse in moves.

Most of today's players have really poor post game, guys like David or Hakeem would be unfair today with their size, strength and mobility.

And they of course would be decent 3pts shooters if they played today, bc they were already very good mid range and FT shooters with a elite work ethic.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1909410190979478002

https://x.com/HoHighlights/status/1909410469506695202

[Ice009]

Good to see Victor there at the game, and he's looking good (Hakeem too). I hope they chat it up and would be cool if he were to work with him at some point. I'm sure he can learn a lot from Hakeem.

[scott]

https://x.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1909410190979478002

https://x.com/HoHighlights/status/1909410469506695202

Do you think Hakeem is telling Wemby "let me tell you about some of the things I did in this building to your friend David..."

[RC_Drunkford]

Wemby working on his post moves with Hakeem in the offseason would be just what the doctor ordered

[TD 21]

He's got a better option in his own backyard, who'll probably cost $50,000 less.

Either can't hurt, but can only help so much considering he lacks the body type of either and is more Robinson, Garnett, Davis than them.

[Ice009]

He doesn't have the body to back people down, and also, he doesn't need to be slowing it down dribbling the ball letting the defense collapse in on him. He can just face up instead. And as people here at ST have mentioned, he could look at adding some simple shots like a hook shot to get some easier buckets. Maybe work on a bank shot in face up situations too.

He's also already got great footwork already, so it's up to him if he wants to learn from Hakeem if he thinks it will help him. He could probably learn some stuff about defense, positioning and timing on that end (Gilbert Arenas crew mentioned this and I thought that's an aspect worth looking at more than offense if he were to work with Hakeem). Might be worth it just to talk to him about his perspective on the defensive end. Victor can still learn some things on defense/get tips on that end of the court to take to take it to yet another level.

[LeBowen]

https://i.redd.it/6o6t2kuorjue1.jpeg

[spursistan]

Raul Dominguez Jr. on X: "Victor Wembanyama looks healthy and happy. Said he is on schedule with his rehabilitation. He is able to exercise and participate in basketball activities but it is light and involves no contact. Wemby wants to do more and feels like he can, but he trusts the rehab schedule. https://t.co/y03VLX2FXU" / X (https://x.com/DominguezCinco/status/1911487018795671588)

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/uxHaC1v3z5o?si=-I5yv3UP3WPBMgJQ

[John B]

So nice to see Wemby in such high spirits. There’s no indication that he won’t be back in full self next season. That means the FO will be very busy this off-season. There will be no stones left unturned. I can’t wait!

[LeBowen]

Official NBA account on reddit posted some interesting stats.


TOP 10 MOST-VIEWED PLAYERS:



LeBron James (Los Angeles Lakers): 3.23B views
Stephen Curry (Golden State Warriors): 2.56B views
Luka Dončić (Los Angeles Lakers): 1.82B views
Victor Wembanyama (San Antonio Spurs): 1.47B views
Nikola Jokić (Denver Nuggets): 1.20B views
Ja Morant (Memphis Grizzlies): 1.09B views
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Oklahoma City Thunder): 1.06B views
Giannis Antetokounmpo (Milwaukee Bucks): 897M views
Anthony Edwards (Minnesota Timberwolves): 800M views
Jayson Tatum (Boston Celtics): 766M views




Top-Selling Player Jerseys:



Luka Dončić (Los Angeles Lakers).
Stephen Curry (Golden State Warriors).
LeBron James (Los Angeles Lakers).
Jayson Tatum (Boston Celtics).
Jalen Brunson (New York Knicks).
Victor Wembanyama (San Antonio Spurs).
Anthony Edwards (Minnesota Timberwolves).
Ja Morant (Memphis Grizzlies).
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Oklahoma City Thunder).
Nikola Jokić (Denver Nuggets).
Giannis Antetokounmpo (Milwaukee Bucks).
LaMelo Ball (Charlotte Hornets).
Kevin Durant (Phoenix Suns).
Devin Booker (Phoenix Suns).
Jaylen Brown (Boston Celtics).




Top-Selling NBA Merchandise:



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He's going to be the most popular player in the league after Lebron and Steph retire and Spurs better take advantage of it.
No more family values and zero media exposure, Wemby can generate so much money which can be used to for example pay the luxury tax and he'll obviously be the player everyone will want to team up with.

[RC_Drunkford]

If we only had a good design department. Our merch and City Edition jerseys are horrendous

[Chomag]

Official NBA account on reddit posted some interesting stats.






He's going to be the most popular player in the league after Lebron and Steph retire and Spurs better take advantage of it.
No more family values and zero media exposure, Wemby can generate so much money which can be used to for example pay the luxury tax and he'll obviously be the player everyone will want to team up with.
Good take and I agree. Big competitive teams are going to come hard for Wemby when his Rookie contract is up and the spurs are the ones on the clock to prove why he should stay with this franchise and that window is getting smaller.

[spursistan]

So nice to see Wemby in such high spirits. There’s no indication that he won’t be back in full self next season. That means the FO will be very busy this off-season. There will be no stones left unturned. I can’t wait!
I'm just glad there is no "ifs" and "buts" and "we'll see" in their messaging. Mitch Johnson was categorical yesterday when he replied that Wemby will be ready by the start of training camp. Spurs would never frame it in such way if they didn't have a complete grasp on the situation--- that it is a one-off case similar to Brandon Ingram's who returned few months later to play at a high level and never had a recurrence 6 years after his first diagnosis..

[poopbox]

Some of the things Victor and Fox said leads me to believe they think most of the players on this team will be back next year :cry

[tonight...you]

Some of the things Victor and Fox said leads me to believe they think most of the players on this team will be back next year :cry
Things change bro. Look at us going all goofball on last year's draft trade of 8 and it ends up being integral in getting Fox later.
Things change.
Only thing I've ever clung to is every day brings something new, maybe something unexpected.

[poopbox]

Things change bro. Look at us going all goofball on last year's draft trade of 8 and it ends up being integral in getting Fox later.
Things change.
Only thing I've ever clung to is every day brings something new, maybe something unexpected.

That Minny pick wasn't "intergral" to the fox trade. Fox and Rich Paul forced their way out of Sac and to the Spurs. You could substitute that Minny pick for 3 half eaten churros and that deal still get's done because what choice did the Kings have?

[tonight...you]

That Minny pick wasn't "intergral" to the fox trade. Fox and Rich Paul forced their way out of Sac and to the Spurs. You could substitute that Minny pick for 3 half eaten churros and that deal still get's done because what choice did the Kings have?
Why did you misspell integral and put it in quotations?

[ace3g]

DIxEOqzSuRh

[rjv]

^^^ where the heck is this court?

[cutewizard]

Wemby should cultivate a hook shot.....

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/OTL8dW6PqPE?si=Ba5-5R9T8IiIOhc3

[spurraider21]

Some of the things Victor and Fox said leads me to believe they think most of the players on this team will be back next year :cry
you say that like its a bad thing

[cutewizard]

Wemby is in Costa Rica having fun

[cutewizard]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3fvKT4h0olA?si=9vrwd8_xkuUNxBpO

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypofMAYd8OM

[spursistan]

Looks like Wemby has been cleared for moderate physical/cardio activity. Good to see, tbh.

https://x.com/SpursCulture/status/1915391395726086525

[spursistan]

Looks like Wemby has been cleared for moderate physical/cardio activity. Good to see, tbh.

https://x.com/SpursCulture/status/1915391395726086525
The amount of "blood clot, my ass; Spurs are tanking" in the comments and QTs of these circulating videos.. The meltdown is going to be glorious if we somehow get a Top 4 pick :lol.

[Ice009]

The amount of "blood clot, my ass; Spurs are tanking" in the comments and QTs of these circulating videos.. The meltdown is going to be glorious if we somehow get a Top 4 pick :lol.

There is no way Victor sat out games to get a worse record. If that is what these clowns think, F them. We'll take a top 4 pick (maybe even top 1 ;) ), then they can really complain.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/SpursSixthMan/status/1915357051699487099

[spursistan]

There is no way Victor sat out games to get a worse record. If that is what these clowns think, F them. We'll take a top 4 pick.
Yea i know, but I understand where rival fanbases are coming from. Spurs getting Flagg and threepeating on ROY would shut down the league for the next decade.
Anyway, it seems like Wemby is off blood thinners and out of post-surgery convalescence period. No way they would allow him to hop on a 4-5 hour flight to Costa Rica to play recreational soccer with all the potential risks involved. Really good signs about his recovery process..

[RC_Drunkford]

so he's about a month ahead of schedule which is a great sign. The news came out on February 20th. Plenty of time to work on his game now.

[dn0774]

Watching the video, it has been speculated he likely had surgery/procedure on his right shoulder. Didn't really see any scar or evidence of it in the admittedly low quality video. Anyone else notice anything? Anyways, gotta assume the odds of him playing for France in August just ticked up a little.

[Ice009]

Yea i know, but I understand where rival fanbases are coming from. Spurs getting Flagg and threepeating on ROY would shut down the league for the next decade.
Anyway, it seems like Wemby is off blood thinners and out of post-surgery convalescence period. No way they would allow him to hop on a 4-5 hour flight to Costa Rica to play recreational soccer with all the potential risks involved. Really good signs about his recovery process..

Yeah, I guess I can see where other fans are coming from. Regardless, he definitely did not sit out for the Spurs to tank. And great that you brought up that he must be off the blood thinners if they've let him fly to Costa Rica. I wonder what he's actually doing there. Just holidaying?
He seems to like going to places with nice nature. He really doesn't seem like a concrete jungle person at all.


so he's about a month ahead of schedule which is a great sign. The news came out on February 20th. Plenty of time to work on his game now.

When you say he's a month ahead, are you basing that on him likely now being off the blood thinners and allowed to travel?


Watching the video, it has been speculated he likely had surgery/procedure on his right shoulder. Didn't really see any scar or evidence of it in the admittedly low quality video. Anyone else notice anything? Anyways, gotta assume the odds of him playing for France in August just ticked up a little.

Gonna go back and watch the video again, but I don't recall seeing any good angles of his shoulder. Video quality isn't good either, though.

[HankChinaski]

Scars? What you think he is using Medicare. He is in the upper echelon and getting top dollar doctors and techniques to limit down time and recovery. Laser incision damn microscopic cameras, the works.

[rjv]

it's still possible that Wemby never had surgery. the only source we have for this is from the French national coach, but he may have been referring to a non-invasive procedure rather than an actual incision. Fauthoux did use the word "operation" and not surgery.

[RC_Drunkford]

When you say he's a month ahead, are you basing that on him likely now being off the blood thinners and allowed to travel?

the projected timetable for him being able to play with contact was 3 months. He's doing it after 2, so yeah he's a month ahead of being off blood thinners.

[Frenchfred]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3fvKT4h0olA?si=9vrwd8_xkuUNxBpO

I know that he has been doing only light weight exercise but he looks skinnier compared to the beginning of this year. I'm hoping that he can gain 10-15 pounds before next season

[eric365]

I think he will play with the FNT this summer

Fox said he’ll be cleared in 8 weeks and that leaves some time to prepare

[Ice009]

I think he will play with the FNT this summer

Fox said he’ll be cleared in 8 weeks and that leaves some time to prepare

De'Aaron said Victor will be cleared in 8 weeks? If so, when/where did he mention this?

[CGD]

Looks like Wemby has been cleared for moderate physical/cardio activity. Good to see, tbh.

https://x.com/SpursCulture/status/1915391395726086525

Jesus that looks comical against normal people

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MaximeAubin1/status/1915879597834703252

[VBM]

https://x.com/MaximeAubin1/status/1915879597834703252

Not a fan of that ankle tweak at the end.

[eric365]

De'Aaron said Victor will be cleared in 8 weeks? If so, when/where did he mention this?

https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/nba-star-de-aaron-fox-breaks-silence-on-recovery-after-surgery-01jrzv0h15ad

“I’m about I think almost four weeks post-surgery,” Fox said. “I should be cleared in another eight. I’ll be able to start doing basketball stuff, I think, in the next two. I’ve been able to work out for the past about a week and a half, since the womb started closing and I could start to sweat.
“We should be clear, me and Vic, should be cleared around the same time. So we’d be able to get together in the summer and be able to work with each other.”

[spursistan]

I'm just so sick of seeing DPOY robberies committed at the expense of Spurs Big men. Wemby and Timmy going 0-3 in those years
is ridiculous.
https://x.com/DanWeissPBP/status/1916958147513569345

[Brazil]

it's still possible that Wemby never had surgery. the only source we have for this is from the French national coach, but he may have been referring to a non-invasive procedure rather than an actual incision. Fauthoux did use the word "operation" and not surgery.

Operation in French basically means surgery

[rjv]

Operation in French basically means surgery

yes, but surgery could also involve non-invasive procedures. and the coach could have easily misspoke.

[thiste]

I don't think this has been posted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WhaiJGQiY

[tim_duncan_fan]

Checkmate, Height-Truthers?

https://i.postimg.cc/W46QWfgs/Smart-Select-20250502-211155-Chrome.jpg

[cutewizard]

Just realized we can field this highly unique team

Wemby, Point Center
Danny Wolf, Point Forward
Castle, Point Wing
Harper, Point Guard
Fox, Point Guard/Court General

[Atl Spur]

Just realized we can field this highly unique team

Wemby, Point Center
Danny Wolf, Point Forward
Castle, Point Wing
Harper, Point Guard
Fox, Point Guard/Court General
Pretty dope!

[skin27]

Is wemby expected to play on opening night?

[exstatic]

Is wemby expected to play on opening night?

Wemby is going to play this summer for France.

[John B]

Wemby is going to play this summer for France.

Is there official release of him getting cleared for full contact? If so that’s great!

[skin27]

Wemby is going to play this summer for France.

damn. Why would he need to play for france when there is no world cup or olympics this year? I think he should rest this summer so that he’s fresh and well rested for next season run. And also no excuse for coaching staff to play him 30 minutes per game or less. Stupid decision by him. Smh

[exstatic]

damn. Why would he need to play for france when there is no world cup or olympics this year? I think he should rest this summer so that he’s fresh and well rested for next season run. And also no excuse for coaching staff to play him 30 minutes per game or less. Stupid decision by him. Smh

He played 33 minutes per game.

[skin27]

He played 33 minutes per game. but too many games with minutes restrictions.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

but too many games with minutes restrictions.

Don’t you see what happens to players that play 40 minutes per game in these playoffs? 33-34 is totally fine for Wemby.

[skin27]

Don’t you see what happens to players that play 40 minutes per game in these playoffs? 33-34 is totally fine for Wemby.

yes but to play this for france is a stupid decision.he shoud use his time this summer to rest. Its just give coaching staff an excuse to restict his minutes to 30 minutes per game next season which is his 3rd season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

yes but to play this for france is a stupid decision.he shoud use his time this summer to rest. Its just give coaching staff an excuse to restict his minutes to 30 minutes per game next season which is his 3rd season.

He’ll always play for France because he wants to represent his country, it’ll be a huge part of his legacy. Get over it.

[skin27]

He’ll always play for France because he wants to represent his country, it’ll be a huge part of his legacy. Get over it.
yeah but it is a stupid decision for him to do it this year especially he has a blood clot illness.

[DPG21920]

Wemby playing for France is a good thing - it means he’s healthy.

[skin27]

Wemby playing for France is a good thing - it means he’s healthy.
So it means he will play on opening night too and play next season with no fatigue issue or fatigue excuses?

[exstatic]

Is wemby expected to play on opening night?

If he’s cleared to play France,he’s cleared to play anywhere.

[exstatic]

So it means he will play on opening night too and play next season with no fatigue issue or fatigue excuses?

As a player expected to anchor the defense and be the offensive engine, he will be fatigued at times, but that would be true whether he played for France or not.

[exstatic]

yes but to play this for france is a stupid decision.he shoud use his time this summer to rest. Its just give coaching staff an excuse to restict his minutes to 30 minutes per game next season which is his 3rd season.

They didn’t restrict him last year, only his rookie season.

[skin27]

As a player expected to anchor the defense and be the offensive engine, he will be fatigued at times, but that would be true whether he played for France or not.

better for hin to rest this summer espcially coming from a blood clot illness.

[RC_Drunkford]

damn. Why would he need to play for france when there is no world cup or olympics this year? I think he should rest this summer so that he’s fresh and well rested for next season run. And also no excuse for coaching staff to play him 30 minutes per game or less. Stupid decision by him. Smh

rest for what? He hasn't played a basketball game since mid February. That's more than enough rest.

[tonight...you]

better for hin to rest this summer espcially coming from a blood clot illness.
Better to stay in shape and not come into camp getting winded and not ready due to so much time off.
Injuries can happen anywhere at anytime.
I'd rather him out there keeping his cardio up in gametime matters and getting his body back to used to playing.

[dn0774]

better for hin to rest this summer espcially coming from a blood clot illness.

He's been resting since February. That is 6 full months without playing assuming he were to play in the Euros. He's 21, he needs to play basketball.

[exstatic]

better for hin to rest this summer espcially coming from a blood clot illness.

The DVT is either fixed, or it isn’t. Playing for France won’t change his condition, only reveal the outcome. I don’t believe he will have further problems, because guys like Ausar and BI have had this same thing, and come back without effect. That being said, if there are problems, they won’t be caused by playing for France, they would be revealed no matter when he resumed playing.

[LeBowen]

better for hin to rest this summer espcially coming from a blood clot illness.

Wemby is French and believe it or not most Europeans have playing for their national team higher on their priority list than playing for their NBA team.
What can the Spurs do about it? Absolutely nothing.
Wemby doesn't want to skip tournaments with such a stacked team that should win medals wherever they show up.

He hasn't played a game since 5th of February. Do you really want him to be without serious basketball for more than 8 months?
If blood clot issue is chronic then we're all fucked either way. Playing or not playing at Eurobasket won't change a thing.

[dn0774]

The DVT is either fixed, or it isn’t. Playing for France won’t change his condition, only reveal the outcome. I don’t believe he will have further problems, because guys like Ausar and BI have had this same thing, and come back without effect. That being said, if there are problems, they won’t be caused by playing for France, they would be revealed no matter when he resumed playing.

Might be a little OT but that is another reason to draft Harper/not trade for Giannis. The possibility exists that Wemby could have his career derailed out of nowhere, I would rather have Harper in the fold to pivot to if that worst case scenario did happen. I believe the Spurs when they said they believe the DVT was an isolated occurrence and shouldn't impact Vic going forward, but they could be wrong.

[KDKSpurs24]

Might be a little OT but that is another reason to draft Harper/not trade for Giannis. The possibility exists that Wemby could have his career derailed out of nowhere, I would rather have Harper in the fold to pivot to if that worst case scenario did happen. I believe the Spurs when they said they believe the DVT was an isolated occurrence and shouldn't impact Vic going forward, but they could be wrong.
This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying! This is one of the main reasons to just go ahead and draft Harper. With the injury history of someone his size and also him having the DVT health issue, you might as well draft a guy with the best superstar potential as a fall back plan to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

[cutewizard]

This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying! This is one of the main reasons to just go ahead and draft Harper. With the injury history of someone his size and also him having the DVT health issue, you might as well draft a guy with the best superstar potential as a fall back plan to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

Agree

Draft Harper

Find back up centers

Make life easier for Wemby

[cutewizard]

Absolutely necessary to draft a back up center who could be a reliable force moving forward....

Candidates galore

[Limguogolo]

damn. Why would he need to play for france when there is no world cup or olympics this year? I think he should rest this summer so that he’s fresh and well rested for next season run. And also no excuse for coaching staff to play him 30 minutes per game or less. Stupid decision by him. Smh
Is this a comment from 1998?

Spurs were the first franchise to understand the benefit their players could gain from playing with their national team. Instead of working alone with a coach and extras, international players (this also applies to American players, including young players) play at a high level. They gain experience, they stay fit, and they develop their playing intelligence by learning to deal with different playing situations. It's a luxury to have international players who can come together in the summer, change environments, regain confidence, stay competitive. For twenty years, most franchises have happily left their players in the national teams because they always come out better.

Also, apart from Team USA, the European Championship brings together a much greater level of density of teams than the World Championships or the Olympic Games (and twenty years ago, an American would not even have talked about the World Championship as only the Olympic Games counted). A little more effort, and you will understand the interest of such a competition.

[TheBallsbreakers]

damn. Why would he need to play for france when there is no world cup or olympics this year? I think he should rest this summer so that he’s fresh and well rested for next season run. And also no excuse for coaching staff to play him 30 minutes per game or less. Stupid decision by him. Smh
You keep bandying the word "stupid" about. What's hilarious is that it literally fits you to a tee.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Is this a comment from 1998?

Spurs were the first franchise to understand the benefit their players could gain from playing with their national team. Instead of working alone with a coach and extras, international players (this also applies to American players, including young players) play at a high level. They gain experience, they stay fit, and they develop their playing intelligence by learning to deal with different playing situations. It's a luxury to have international players who can come together in the summer, change environments, regain confidence, stay competitive. For twenty years, most franchises have happily left their players in the national teams because they always come out better.

Also, apart from Team USA, the European Championship brings together a much greater level of density of teams than the World Championships or the Olympic Games (and twenty years ago, an American would not even have talked about the World Championship as only the Olympic Games counted). A little more effort, and you will understand the interest of such a competition. skin27 is as dense as it gets. Best to ignore him unless you're into charity work for the mentally impaired or something.

[TheBallsbreakers]

This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying! This is one of the main reasons to just go ahead and draft Harper. With the injury history of someone his size and also him having the DVT health issue, you might as well draft a guy with the best superstar potential as a fall back plan to be prepared for the worst case scenario.
That "possibility" exists for literally every player in the history of every sport.

[cutewizard]

In fact we might need two centers

The regular back-up/center mentor, like Steven Adams PLUS

the young understudy, center-in-training, like Maluach/Maxime/ etc etc

[Brazil]

better for hin to rest this summer espcially coming from a blood clot illness.

I fail to understand why you see Victor playing for France a bad thing... If he plays it means he is healthy, also he does not play competitive ball for months, to play for France this summer will actually be good for his conditionning so that he is fully ready for summer camp

[KDKSpurs24]

That "possibility" exists for literally every player in the history of every sport.
Of course it does but ok what are you saying? Still doesn’t change my point. Draft the best player JUST IN CASE something happens. Best to have multiple guys with superstar potential on the team than to draft a guy for fit. And possibilities/probabilities have different % chances of happening depending on the circumstances by the way.

[skin27]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/s/7T5WOFNtSehttps://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/s/7T5WOFNtSe

[spursistan]

He IS Back. Exactly 3 months after being diagnosed with a DVT, Wemby is seen on court ramping up basketball activities. No sign of contact drills yet, but it is probably on the next phase of recovery.

https://x.com/exiaaa28/status/1924604896973594675
https://x.com/TimMartin_TX/status/1924669139857125620

[Ice009]

Where is this at? Are they in the US still?

[spursistan]

Where is this at? Are they in the US, or is this in France?
I think it is in an academy/agency in Dallas.. Wemby was attending a WNBA game last night there too..

https://x.com/sixfivelando/status/1924622399544185093

[spursistan]

He IS Back. Exactly 3 months after being diagnosed with a DVT, Wemby is seen on court ramping up basketball activities. No sign of contact drills yet, but it is probably on the next phase of recovery.

https://x.com/exiaaa28/status/1924604896973594675
https://x.com/TimMartin_TX/status/1924669139857125620
I think we can safely say that Wemby is little bit ahead of schedule now that's rejoined Tim Martin academy. He is likely putting some serious cardio with light contact drills as part of his workout.

[cutewizard]

Wembyyyyyyyyyyyy

Create your own version of the hook shot this offseason plssssss

[cutewizard]

Guys

I think it's time to pose THE Question......

What might be the true height of Wemby??

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/viocCvfVz8U?si=4INiB6PDmdLYQ15w

[Knoxxx]

Most the pictures I see with Wemby he’s standing with people who are not right next to him but more slightly in the foreground. He was measured barefoot by the Spurs themselves at 7’3.5” barefoot right after they drafted him so he should be listed at 7’4”. Could he have grown a little since? Sure, but I seriously
doubt he grew 2.5”.

[couchman]

I bet he is 7’4 1/2 or 7’5” barefoot now

[Knoxxx]

Gobert was 7’0.5”

https://www.nbadraft.net/2013-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

[ace3g]

https://x.com/Fanatics/status/1927774136618594640

[SpursFan86]

https://x.com/Fanatics/status/1927774136618594640

Unfortunate to see Victor focusing on being a celebrity instead of improving as a basketball player. Guess he hasn’t gotten over himself yet.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/SpursReporter/status/1926456853443027401