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baseline bum
03-01-2024, 12:42 AM
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Wemby using all the damn rim just like Timmy

thiste
03-01-2024, 12:47 AM
Who said Wemby can't shoot?

https://twitter.com/automaticnba/status/1763326473950437764

Spursfanfromafar
03-01-2024, 01:29 AM
Fill in the blank: Wemby is the best rookie since _____

I don’t think anyone in this century has an argument at this point. Going back further…Duncan? Shaq? D-Rob? He’s in those guys’ tier IMO. Scary considering he’s far younger than they were as rookies (less so Shaq, but still).

Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

thiste
03-01-2024, 08:56 AM
ROOKIE PER 36PTSREBASTSTLBLKEFF. FG%AGE



Michael Jordan26.56.15.52.20.851.8%21-22



Victor Wembanyama26.012.84.31.74.251.8%19-20



Kareem Abdul-Jabbar24.112.13.4——51.8%22

manufan10
03-01-2024, 09:07 AM
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manufan10
03-01-2024, 09:09 AM
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manufan10
03-01-2024, 09:16 AM
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manufan10
03-01-2024, 09:38 AM
:wow

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Spurs Homer
03-01-2024, 11:00 AM
:wow

1763453113296404524


*restricted minutes*

Splits
03-01-2024, 11:03 AM
Good read for Wemby sniffers: https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/draft-digest-roundtable-victor-wembanyama-rookie-greatness

My fave:


Morten Stig Jensen: It's a shared number one spot. The defense over the course of the season is one thing. In the modern era, we've never seen a rookie this disruptive on that end of the floor, so I just can't not go with that. The second part of that question is the 5x5 line. Let's be real for a second. Headlines were written all over the world 24 hours before he did it, because he was one assist shy of doing it, before he actually did it. Every single one of those headlines felt pointless the day after, because no one stopped to consider the fact that he might actually pull it off the next time he hit the court. Because why should they? It'd be illogical! You have guys who go their whole careers just getting close to a 5x5 line, and this 20-year-old damn near had two of them in a 24-hour span. If I didn't know any better, Wembanyama is a glitch in the Matrix, put there to test our resolve.

Maddog
03-01-2024, 11:10 AM
*restricted minutes*

Restricted Month also

thiste
03-01-2024, 02:03 PM
https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1763564339288559837

FuzzyLumpkins
03-01-2024, 02:06 PM
Legs loves what Pop is doing with Wemby


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY1xGhfEHL0

Sugus
03-01-2024, 02:39 PM
Sniffers fantasize about some Karate Kid scenario where Wemby is Daniel Larusso, needing Mr. Miyagi to break him down and teach him how to paint a fucking fence for success to follow. The reality is the Wemby is Bruce Lee and can already kick Mr Miyagi's head off his body before he knew what hit him.

This is the most pathetic strawman I've read this week, and I actively encourage you to find a single "sniffer" who believes anything remotely close to this. Do it, prove me wrong...

You didn't have to go all the way over to Retardville after leaving Snifferland, y'know. There's better places to be at, than both of those. You can do better than this character you've been playing, man.

Sugus
03-01-2024, 02:43 PM
https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1763564339288559837

I've been most surprised by Wemby's shooting, and by God I hope he keeps letting it fly. His shooting skill is the true game-breaker (besides his defense which is warping on its own). And he's shooting and making near-logo 3's..... Jesus.

He's clearly taken a page from KD & Steph's shooting and I couldn't be happier. Perimeter playing bigs is where the NBA is headed, and Wemby will trailblaze so much of it.

SpursFan86
03-01-2024, 03:08 PM
Not to derail the hype train, but what’s interesting is how bad Wemby has been on catch and shoot 3s. It’s insane how he’s been lights out on the tougher pull-up attempts but then struggles so much with easier wide open catch and shoot attempts. He’s still just shooting 32% from 3 this year.

That being said, it’s pretty damn exciting to imagine what he’ll be like in a year or 2 if/when he gets more comfortable as a spot up shooter. With how good he’s been on the tougher stuff, hard to imagine him not becoming great at the “easier” stuff in short time.

FuzzyLumpkins
03-01-2024, 03:20 PM
Not to derail the hype train, but what’s interesting is how bad Wemby has been on catch and shoot 3s. It’s insane how he’s been lights out on the tougher pull-up attempts but then struggles so much with easier wide open catch and shoot attempts. He’s still just shooting 32% from 3 this year.

That being said, it’s pretty damn exciting to imagine what he’ll be like in a year or 2 if/when he gets more comfortable as a spot up shooter. With how good he’s been on the tougher stuff, hard to imagine him not becoming great at the “easier” stuff in short time.

Given his starting point was under 30% career-wise I think he is doing fine. They have asked him about it and he said it is an issue of him being consistent in his technique and ready to catch the ball. He is progressing well.

scott
03-01-2024, 03:29 PM
This is the most pathetic strawman I've read this week, and I actively encourage you to find a single "sniffer" who believes anything remotely close to this. Do it, prove me wrong...

You didn't have to go all the way over to Retardville after leaving Snifferland, y'know. There's better places to be at, than both of those. You can do better than this character you've been playing, man.

You want me to prove an analogy? Have the fumes completely rotted away your brain?

Also, it's 2024... what's up with the R word man?

spurraider21
03-01-2024, 03:47 PM
Not to derail the hype train, but what’s interesting is how bad Wemby has been on catch and shoot 3s. It’s insane how he’s been lights out on the tougher pull-up attempts but then struggles so much with easier wide open catch and shoot attempts. He’s still just shooting 32% from 3 this year.

That being said, it’s pretty damn exciting to imagine what he’ll be like in a year or 2 if/when he gets more comfortable as a spot up shooter. With how good he’s been on the tougher stuff, hard to imagine him not becoming great at the “easier” stuff in short time.
he's a rhythm shooter, think free throws. you can take your comfy dribble, gather the ball, then go up. fortunately his form and stroke is good so its just something he's going to have the emphasize. make sure he's not changing his mechanics with or without a dribble

spurraider21
03-01-2024, 03:54 PM
would have been fuckin hilarious if we had Wemby in the 2000's. the one guy who could block dirk's fadeaway :lol

koriwhat
03-01-2024, 04:03 PM
would have been fuckin hilarious if we had Wemby in the 2000's. the one guy who could block dirk's fadeaway :lol

That damn 1 footed fade! Ugh!!!!!

mudyez
03-01-2024, 04:51 PM
• Fastest player to reach 1K+ PTS, 500+ REB, and 150+ BLK in their career ( 1423 minutes )

• First player in NBA history to average a 5x5 over a two-game span

• Youngest player to record a 5x5 game (only 15 players have ever had a 5x5 game)

• Youngest player to record a 20-20 game

• Youngest player to record a triple-double with blocks

• Youngest center to record a triple-double

• Youngest player in NBA history to record a triple-double with 0 turnovers

• ONLY player in NBA history to average at least 20 PTS, 10 REB, 3 BLK, and one 3-pointer per game

• ONLY player in NBA history to have these numbers in a season 150+ BLK, 150+ AST, and 75+ threes

• 2nd player ever to record back-to-back 5+ STL, 5+ BLK games (MJ is the other player)

• 2nd player ever to record 25+ PTS, 10+ REB, 5+ AST, 5+ STL, and 5+ BLK in a game (Hakeem Olajuwon is the other player)

• Averaging 20 PTS, 10 REB, 3 BLK in a season, last player to do this was MVP Shaq

• Most Consecutive Double-Doubles by a Teenager in NBA History

• 2nd-youngest player to record 10 blocks in a game

spurraider21
03-01-2024, 05:07 PM
Bol Bol was the first

NASpurs
03-01-2024, 09:42 PM
I heard LMA has been around shoot arounds. Would be sick if Victor learned his jumper or fadeway.

thiste
03-01-2024, 10:44 PM
In 59 games and 14185 minutes played this season, the whole Miami Heat team recorded 196 blocks total.
In 54 games and 1548 minutes played this season, Victor Wembanyama recorded 180 blocks total.

Sugus
03-02-2024, 06:46 AM
You want me to prove an analogy? Have the fumes completely rotted away your brain?

Also, it's 2024... what's up with the R word man?

No, I want you to show me who ever thinks Pop needs to "break Wemby down and teach him how to paint a fucking fence for success to follow". Because most if not every person I've seen praises Wemby's already-great skills and only wants to add to them, instead of acting like he's some broken player for Pop to fix up. The general consensus by far seems to be that Pop can add to Wemby, not break him.

Secondly, words are just words, to be used in proper context. Cue Michael Scott's "you don't call retarded people retards..." bit. Ultimately, my point being, no need to play this antagonistic "Jedi turns Sith" stuff and attack others for their opinions. That's exactly what's killing discussion in the forum, it's really un-engaging.

Splits
03-02-2024, 09:54 AM
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Was listening to yesterday's Locked on Spurs and neither Garcia nor Michael Jimenez know what a stock was :lmao

Rocalcio
03-02-2024, 10:08 AM
1763938561945215471

1763629265856196823

Was listening to yesterday's Locked on Spurs and neither Garcia nor Michael Jimenez know what a stock was :lmao

I haven’t been listening to Locked On Spurs for a while, but I’m pretty sure Garcia still calls Wemby « Wembanyana »…

ace3g
03-03-2024, 08:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Balldontlie/status/1764468304389816545

ace3g
03-03-2024, 08:55 PM
https://twitter.com/DanWeissPBP/status/1764467946871504931

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 09:38 PM
Victor could only hope to be anywhere close to Hassan Whiteside though

SpursFan86
03-03-2024, 09:44 PM
I just still can’t believe how much he’s improved already. Everyone was pretty confident he’d be a superstar…but from what I remember the clear consensus was that it’d take him a while to adjust, he’d need to build out his frame, etc etc. I thought he’d be a defensive force in year 1 but would struggle quite a bit offensively for the first year or 2.

It’s taken him 60 games to become a top 3 defender in the league while putting up 20+ ppg on great efficiency…truly insane shit we’re witnessing. It’s totally shifted the timeline of the Spurs competing for a title. I’m fully on board the “get Wemby some help ASAP” train at this point.

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 09:46 PM
:lol Pacers forum:

03-03-2024, 09:35 PMYep the NBA is cooked with Wemby, I’m glad Pacers didn’t tank and let Hield win some games for pride.

DAF86
03-03-2024, 09:50 PM
Is he already top 10 in the league? These last couple of games he has looked like the best player in the court by far and he played against an MVP candidate in SGA and an arguably top 10 player in Haliburton.

DAF86
03-03-2024, 10:01 PM
Victor Wembanyama joins David Robinson (2x) and Tim Duncan as the only rookies in NBA history to record 30+ points, 10+ rebounds, 5+ assists, and 5+ blocks in a game.

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 10:04 PM
Is he already top 10 in the league? These last couple of games he has looked like the best player in the court by far and he played against an MVP candidate in SGA and an arguably top 10 player in Haliburton.
He might not be top 10 right now, but I bet some teams would consider trading their top 10 player for him going forward. Maybe.

SpursFan86
03-03-2024, 10:05 PM
Is he already top 10 in the league? These last couple of games he has looked like the best player in the court by far and he played against an MVP candidate in SGA and an arguably top 10 player in Haliburton.

Just depends on how much weight you put into the past 30 days. I don’t blame someone for saying we need to see him do this for a longer period of time before putting him in that tier…but honestly he’s absolutely in that 10-15 range for me at this point.

At this point I truly wouldn’t be surprised if he’s top 5 by next year after 20 more games this year + offseason filled with international ball. Sounds insane considering he won’t even be 21 at the start of the year but with the improvement he’s already shown so far…just doesn’t seem that farfetched IMO.

thiste
03-03-2024, 10:08 PM
:lol Pacers forum:

03-03-2024, 09:35 PMYep the NBA is cooked with Wemby, I’m glad Pacers didn’t tank and let Hield win some games for pride.



I think the players realize this as well. What the hell can you do against something like that?

thiste
03-03-2024, 10:09 PM
https://twitter.com/FlyByKnite/status/1764475404033966535

TimmehC
03-03-2024, 10:10 PM
Victor Wembanyama joins David Robinson (2x) and Tim Duncan as the only rookies in NBA history to record 30+ points, 10+ rebounds, 5+ assists, and 5+ blocks in a game.

How insanely lucky are we? And he could end up being the best of those three, which is mind-blowing. Lmao sucks to not be spurfan.

Spurminator
03-03-2024, 10:10 PM
His coordination has grown by leaps and bounds since the beginning of the season. There were times when he looked like a baby giraffe out there still learning how to move. I can't believe how quickly he seems to have gotten these legs underneath him and he still has so much strength potential.

CGD
03-03-2024, 10:11 PM
Victor Wembanyama joins David Robinson (2x) and Tim Duncan as the only rookies in NBA history to record 30+ points, 10+ rebounds, 5+ assists, and 5+ blocks in a game.

Lest we forget how amazing Dave was for doing that in such a different era

ace3g
03-03-2024, 10:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Balldontlie/status/1764480770838520113

Fizziksman
03-03-2024, 10:13 PM
can't believe he took a 2nd year leap in the middle of his rookie year

DAF86
03-03-2024, 10:17 PM
He might not be top 10 right now, but I bet some teams would consider trading their top 10 player for him going forward. Maybe.

Outside of Denver with Jokic, every other team would be crazy not to trade their franchise player for Wemby. This season maybe the Celtics wouldn't trade Tatum because they seem poised to ring (despite Wemby projecting to be the much better player for the next decade). But the rest? They should do it without thinking it twice.

RC_Drunkford
03-03-2024, 10:30 PM
Not only has his 3-point shot improved by a lot, but did y’all see these handles? He already tightened that up too. He took like a 3-year leap in one season

ace3g
03-03-2024, 10:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GQ8hFHgIjE

couchman
03-03-2024, 10:40 PM
Unbelievable progression of his skills and his adjustment to the NBA.
The Championship window is officially open as soon as he gets help.
Vassell is a good piece.
Who else can we get?

MultiTroll
03-03-2024, 10:41 PM
It’s taken him 60 games to become a top 3 defender in the league while putting up 20+ ppg on great efficiency…truly insane shit we’re witnessing. It’s totally shifted the timeline of the Spurs competing for a title. I’m fully on board the “get Wemby some help ASAP” train at this point.
All done with guards that are mostly very low IQ and / or physically inept to play NBA D.
Speaks volumes to how much better Wembys influence will be when he has teamates / coaching that adds to his talents.

At least tonight was a YUGE improvement by teamates. Still a lot of total retard plays.

mo7888
03-03-2024, 10:46 PM
Outside of Denver with Jokic, every other team would be crazy not to trade their franchise player for Wemby. This season maybe the Celtics wouldn't trade Tatum because they seem poised to ring (despite Wemby projecting to be the much better player for the next decade). But the rest? They should do it without thinking it twice.

Had a similar conversation with a guy on the west coast tonight. He was asking if Luka asks out this summer are there any teams that wouldn't trade their franchise player for him. I said:

Giannis
Jokic
Wembanyama

All are off the table... anybody else teams would move for him. Wemby is in that class right now.

TheGreatYacht
03-03-2024, 11:02 PM
Generational. Can we all take time to thank MVParker for the influence he had in France?

Best guard in franchise history :cry head of the snake

slick'81
03-03-2024, 11:09 PM
Spurs potentially have lucked into the best player ever

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 11:18 PM
Spurs potentially have lucked into the best player ever
Yeah but let's not talk about Collins. This is a Victor thread. The Frenchise.

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 11:20 PM
Lest we forget how amazing Dave was for doing that in such a different era
David was a fucking beast. Imagine a rookie David Robinson today.

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 11:23 PM
Had a similar conversation with a guy on the west coast tonight. He was asking if Luka asks out this summer are there any teams that wouldn't trade their franchise player for him. I said:

Giannis
Jokic
Wembanyama

All are off the table... anybody else teams would move for him. Wemby is in that class right now.
Curry. Steph is still that guy despite that prison rape the Warriors got today.

mo7888
03-03-2024, 11:26 PM
Curry. Steph is still that guy despite that prison rape the Warriors got today.

I agree, but i think its more about his history with the team than value right now.

Tyronn Lue
03-03-2024, 11:31 PM
I agree, but i think its more about his history with the team than value right now.
Exactly right. Now put Curry and Victor on the same team.

Robz4000
03-03-2024, 11:39 PM
He might not be top 10 right now, but I bet some teams would consider trading their top 10 player for him going forward. Maybe.

:lol only team who might not offer their best player(s) for Wemby at this point is the Nuggets

Fizziksman
03-03-2024, 11:41 PM
Honestly not sure how every team besides the Nuggets Boston didn't tank last year

thiste
03-03-2024, 11:49 PM
OKC wouldn't trade SGA for Wemby, they already got Chet. Chet's no Wemby but you get my point.

SpursBills
03-03-2024, 11:56 PM
OKC wouldn't trade SGA for Wemby, they already got Chet. Chet's no Wemby but you get my point.

I'm sure they love SGA but if SA offered Wemby they would drive him to the airport no questions asked. Cason Wallace-JDub-Chet-Wemby for the next 15 years?

If SA offered Wemby for SGA and Chet they would probably still have to think long and hard.

spurraider21
03-03-2024, 11:56 PM
OKC wouldn't trade SGA for Wemby, they already got Chet. Chet's no Wemby but you get my point.
Of course they would. Wemby Chet pairing is absurd

John B
03-03-2024, 11:57 PM
OKC wouldn't trade SGA for Wemby, they already got Chet. Chet's no Wemby but you get my point.

Seriously? OKC with SGA right now could contend but I doubt they win it all. Having Wemby instead of SGA, with Chet? Giddy and JDub? That’s a championship team.

Pauleta14
03-04-2024, 12:06 AM
PATFO have to be in shock, there's no way they saw that coming

Whether from inside or outside the pressure to accelerate the process is clearly growing

Pop will have to eat the words he had after the penultimate OKC game where he selled hard the long term and patience.

Tyronn Lue
03-04-2024, 12:18 AM
Of course they would. Wemby Chet pairing is absurd
Imagine point guards lining up to play with that tandem.

Tyronn Lue
03-04-2024, 12:21 AM
Generational. Can we all take time to thank MVParker for the influence he had in France?

Best guard in franchise history :cry head of the snake
Scary that the pundits were saying this about Victor before anyone ever saw his game at this level.

heyheymymy
03-04-2024, 12:46 AM
I was here when Victor was a rookie

I think about that a lot watching these games. We're gonna look back on this season some day like this is where it all started

Dhbsr555
03-04-2024, 01:29 AM
I truly thought wemby would average around 17 and 8 he has by far exceeded my expectations but what really is shocking me is his passing ability did not see that coming

r0drig0lac
03-04-2024, 08:36 AM
Wemby is the most talented (ever) and most valuable player in the league currently, 100% of the current players (Jokic, Giannis, etc.) would be on the table for him, no question

thiste
03-04-2024, 08:51 AM
https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1764625133732241750

manufan10
03-04-2024, 09:04 AM
1764485057656279459

widowmaker
03-04-2024, 09:33 AM
Victor could only hope to be anywhere close to Hassan Whiteside though


Victor Wembanyama joins David Robinson (2x) and Tim Duncan as the only rookies in NBA history to record 30+ points, 10+ rebounds, 5+ assists, and 5+ blocks in a game.

Yep only if he could be just as good as hassan whiteside

John B
03-04-2024, 09:49 AM
https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1764625133732241750

The look of resignation on Carlisle’s face not being able to do anything to slow Wemby down just hoping he’ll miss. :lol

Spurs Homer
03-04-2024, 12:02 PM
Im waiting for that-soon to come:

40 pts
20 rebs
10 blks
10 assists
10 steals

monster game…

Racspur1
03-04-2024, 12:43 PM
The look of resignation on Carlisle’s face not being able to do anything to slow Wemby down just hoping he’ll miss. :lol

Woody Hayes would have tackled him right there !!! :lmao

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/15906257

Or a Bobby Knight special ...

https://youtu.be/NYjnQ9xxKsc?feature=shared

Splits
03-04-2024, 01:01 PM
1764691846553571382

ace3g
03-04-2024, 03:39 PM
https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1764750167138332942

scott
03-04-2024, 03:45 PM
Chet might not even finish the season #2, if voters are being honest with themselves

Tyronn Lue
03-04-2024, 03:45 PM
Can Victor get most improved player within a season? :lol

Pauleta14
03-04-2024, 03:57 PM
I'd love if he could do a quintuple double before a quadruple :lol

z0sa
03-04-2024, 04:13 PM
I'd love if he could do a quintuple double before a quadruple :lol

What if he achieved a quadruple double and a quintuple double at the same time with a stock on the same play? :wow

spurraider21
03-04-2024, 04:29 PM
What if he achieved a quadruple double and a quintuple double at the same time with a stock on the same play? :wow
can be the same sequence, not the same play

ie he blocks a shot, offense gets the rebound, and then he strips the rebounder or intercepts the attempt to pass it out

but the snatch blocks arent counted as steals, just a block + rebound

z0sa
03-04-2024, 04:32 PM
can be the same sequence, not the same play

ie he blocks a shot, offense gets the rebound, and then he strips the rebounder or intercepts the attempt to pass it out

but the snatch blocks arent counted as steals, just a block + rebound

damn. didn't know those mid air snatches weren't considered steals but rebounds. sad day lol

spurraider21
03-04-2024, 04:33 PM
damn. didn't know those mid air snatches weren't considered steals but rebounds. sad day lol
yeah its ultimately considered a FGA, not a turnover. but the scenario i laid out would be pretty epic.

wemby with the block, he's got the quadru... and now the steal, theres the quintuple double!

Pauleta14
03-04-2024, 04:43 PM
It's fun to be old(er) and still be surprised. Thanks Vic

spurraider21
03-04-2024, 04:44 PM
if wemby appeared in all 21 remaining games and fails to record a single block in any of them, he still ends the season averaging 2.45 blocks per game, which would currently be 4th best in the league

scott
03-04-2024, 04:47 PM
can be the same sequence, not the same play

ie he blocks a shot, offense gets the rebound, and then he strips the rebounder or intercepts the attempt to pass it out

but the snatch blocks arent counted as steals, just a block + rebound

The snatch block to hit 10 blk and 10 reb on the same play would be my ideal to hit the Quint-Double, only to be upped by if he could snatch block a ball out of the air and in the same motion fling it down court to a team mate for a breakaway layup. Block+reb+assist in one motion.

spurraider21
03-04-2024, 04:58 PM
The snatch block to hit 10 blk and 10 reb on the same play would be my ideal to hit the Quint-Double, only to be upped by if he could snatch block a ball out of the air and in the same motion fling it down court to a team mate for a breakaway layup. Block+reb+assist in one motion.
or he has 7 points, 9 rebounds, 9 blocks, 10 assists, 10 steals, and does a snatch block full court heave at the buzzer

RC_Drunkford
03-04-2024, 06:30 PM
gotta give credit to the Spurs' player development. We've seen various clips of drills they had Wemby doing and heard about workouts with Tim and LaMarcus. I'm not sure he'd be this good that quick if he was on the Hornets or Blazers.

manufan10
03-04-2024, 06:36 PM
or he has 7 points, 9 rebounds, 9 blocks, 10 assists, 10 steals, and does a snatch block full court heave at the buzzer

To win the game. :lol

CGD
03-04-2024, 07:41 PM
Woody Hayes would have tackled him right there !!! :lmao

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/15906257

Or a Bobby Knight special ...

https://youtu.be/NYjnQ9xxKsc?feature=shared

What pieces of shit.

buttsR4rebounding
03-04-2024, 09:45 PM
if wemby appeared in all 21 remaining games and fails to record a single block in any of them, he still ends the season averaging 2.45 blocks per game, which would currently be 4th best in the league

Unfortunately, he’s listed as questionable for tomorrow night with shoulder soreness. Probably from blocking 50 shots in the past 10 games.

DAF86
03-04-2024, 09:52 PM
Unfortunately, he’s listed as questionable for tomorrow night with shoulder soreness. Probably from blocking 50 shots in the past 10 games.

Too much winning for PATFO's liking, tbh.

Frenchfred
03-04-2024, 09:58 PM
Man, I was so far off with my prediction for him this year 15 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks :lol What I find more impressive if how quickly he has improved everywhere especially 3-point shooting.

exstatic
03-04-2024, 10:05 PM
Unfortunately, he’s listed as questionable for tomorrow night with shoulder soreness. Probably from blocking 50 shots in the past 10 games.

He actually got fouled real hard in the Indy game, and was rubbing and massaging his shoulder afterwards.

Ocotillo
03-05-2024, 06:16 AM
I think it was Turner swiped down hard on his arm and he came out rubbing it quite a bit.

couchman
03-05-2024, 07:46 AM
Yeah he ran to the press table and sat for a little bit before taking his FTs. I’m not surprised if he misses a game

manufan10
03-05-2024, 12:48 PM
1764780981523714473

thiste
03-05-2024, 12:53 PM
https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1765011381089403256

thiste
03-05-2024, 12:58 PM
https://twitter.com/DanWeissPBP/status/1765064866098979240

manufan10
03-05-2024, 01:15 PM
1764729447154958840

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH2UFHUW8AA5c3w?format=jpg&name=medium

spurraider21
03-05-2024, 03:35 PM
nice thread showing off his variety of ways of scoring in the post, and all from 1 game :wow

1765065389594345502

kace
03-05-2024, 05:45 PM
Too much winning for PATFO's liking, tbh.

he was hit, but i wouldn't be surprised if they indeed decide to make him miss some games till the end of the season in order to keep our draft chances high.

Thomas82
03-05-2024, 06:32 PM
Fan Duel is taking bets on Wemby getting a quadruple-double before the season is over. They started the odds at +10,000.

DAF86
03-05-2024, 06:36 PM
so, is Wemby playing tonight or not?

spurraider21
03-05-2024, 07:03 PM
im guilty of relying on bball reference for positional play time... but just to show how flawed they can be, they have wemby playing C 100% of the time this season, which includes minutes alongside zollins/bassey

they also have duncan playing C 100% of the time for his entire career beginning 08-09, which includes playing alongside splitter (except 1% during his last season, which i dno, may have been alongside boban or some shit :lol)

spurraider21
03-05-2024, 07:07 PM
so, is Wemby playing tonight or not?
1765166803733422519

thiste
03-05-2024, 08:07 PM
No rookie ever averaged 20 & 10 in under 30 minutes.

In fact, only 2 other players ever did it in NBA history:
- Clyde Lovelette in 1959-60
- Joel Embiid in 2019-20

spurraider21
03-06-2024, 08:41 PM
1765553095839301861

Spurs Brazil
03-07-2024, 02:36 PM
https://x.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1765812495376429345?s=20

https://x.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1765813584620401079?s=20

Tyronn Lue
03-07-2024, 02:39 PM
im guilty of relying on bball reference for positional play time... but just to show how flawed they can be, they have wemby playing C 100% of the time this season, which includes minutes alongside zollins/bassey

they also have duncan playing C 100% of the time for his entire career beginning 08-09, which includes playing alongside splitter (except 1% during his last season, which i dno, may have been alongside boban or some shit :lol)
I was in a meeting today discussing AI and this is one of the issues I have with it, that it pulls data from these types of sources without much oversight.

thiste
03-08-2024, 08:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtrCAfqThPQ

Spurs Homer
03-09-2024, 03:47 PM
Is pop keeping vw out for tonite against GS?

spursparker9
03-09-2024, 07:28 PM
Is pop keeping vw out for tonite against GS?

yes. Victor is out. Steph is out too for GSW

exstatic
03-09-2024, 07:44 PM
dFRwfdt-6pU

skin27
03-09-2024, 07:49 PM
yes. Victor is out. Steph is out too for GSW

Again baby sitting victor

exstatic
03-09-2024, 08:09 PM
Again baby sitting victor

It’s not fucking babysitting. He needs to self report injuries, not make them find it in the film session. If he sprains it, maybe they take him out, ice it, and he plays the next game, or maybe misses one game. There’s a risk of catastrophic injury if you continue to play on it. It’s extra loose after a sprain, and it would be really easy to roll it, and tear ankle ligaments.

FuzzyLumpkins
03-09-2024, 08:17 PM
Again baby sitting victor

fuck yeah. the unicorn is still growing. we are doing the opposite of what Houston did with Ming which was awful.

RotY is locked up and he will be back shortly. As the last game demonstrated, developing the rest of the roster is important too.

Kawhi Duncan
03-09-2024, 08:45 PM
fuck yeah. the unicorn is still growing. we are doing the opposite of what Houston did with Ming which was awful.

RotY is locked up and he will be back shortly. As the last game demonstrated, developing the rest of the roster is important too.
Vic is FAR from a finished product...last game showed he needs a ton to work on...he needs to play in order to develop

spursparker9
03-09-2024, 09:47 PM
Just hope that Wemby can at least play 65 games and get the ROY award

couchman
03-09-2024, 09:51 PM
65 game rules does not apply to ROTY

thiste
03-09-2024, 09:57 PM
But it does for DPOY

FuzzyLumpkins
03-09-2024, 10:18 PM
he needs 9 games 18 to play.

LeBowen
03-10-2024, 05:36 PM
Been looking at the stats, we obviously don't need anything more than the eye test to see his improvement on game to game basis, but it's still ridiculous.

First 19 games with Collins in the starting lineup:
18.9/9.7/2.5 on 43/26/81 with 1.3 steals and 2.6 blocks, 3.4 turnovers.

The next 30 games, Collins benched:
21.6/10.3/3.7 on 49/35/81 with 1 steal and 3.5 blocks, 3.5 turnovers.

Post all-star break, 7 games:
22/11.7/5 on 48/43/83 with 2.5 steals and 5.3 blocks, 3.3 turnovers.

And there's that stat of Wemby keeping 60% of his blocks in play.

Spurs Homer
03-10-2024, 09:09 PM
Looks like vw gonna have to wait for his revenge …as shengoon went down with a freaky looking ankle/knee injury against the kings….

carted off in a wheelchair too

DAF86
03-10-2024, 10:54 PM
I06Tlrky9XM

ismael-robert
03-10-2024, 11:53 PM
Not sure if been discussed but obviously he needs to get stronger. With him playing in Olympics I don't see how he's going to have time to develop this summer. Spurs are gonna be over concerned about his body resting before and after Olympics

Joseph Kony
03-11-2024, 02:42 PM
Is Victor playing tonight? only see Vassell (probable) and Osman on the IR for today

manufan10
03-11-2024, 02:59 PM
Is Victor playing tonight? only see Vassell (probable) and Osman on the IR for today

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich reiterated he expects rookie sensation Victor Wembanyama to return to the court to face the Warriors after missing the past two games with a mild right ankle sprain.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/wemby-likely-in-curry-ruled-spurs-warriors-18839840.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20 (Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

spurraider21
03-11-2024, 03:05 PM
yeah vic is back. should be his first game against draymond. if brooks gave wemby trouble, dray should too

Splits
03-11-2024, 03:34 PM
Hope Draymond Ventura steps on him and gets the Nolan Wembanryan treatment

exstatic
03-11-2024, 03:35 PM
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich reiterated he expects rookie sensation Victor Wembanyama to return to the court to face the Warriors after missing the past two games with a mild right ankle sprain.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/wemby-likely-in-curry-ruled-spurs-warriors-18839840.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20 (Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Damn. He’ll probably sit tomorrow on the b2b, and I have tickets.

CorrectCrusader
03-11-2024, 03:45 PM
I'll be at this game, can't wait to see my second game of Wemby

scott
03-11-2024, 03:50 PM
Didn't realize we had an 8 game homestand (including two trips up the road to Austin). Should be fun!

baseline bum
03-11-2024, 04:12 PM
I'll be at this game, can't wait to see my second game of Wemby

Pretty insane in person. Especially if you get to see him go on one of his nuclear runs.

baseline bum
03-11-2024, 04:14 PM
Damn. He’ll probably sit tomorrow on the b2b, and I have tickets.

Yeah almost got tickets for that game and then as soon as I heard Victor was out vs Sac texted my brother and told him probably a bad idea to get tickets the second game of a B2B after he turned his ankle and that we should catch another game later on.

scott
03-11-2024, 04:15 PM
Pretty insane in person. Especially if you get to see him go on one of his nuclear runs.

I only got to see Vic in that first Clippers game when we lost by 40 :lol

CorrectCrusader
03-11-2024, 04:32 PM
Pretty insane in person. Especially if you get to see him go on one of his nuclear runs.

I was there for the Bucks game, I've been lucky

baseline bum
03-11-2024, 04:45 PM
I only got to see Vic in that first Clippers game when we lost by 40 :lol

I got to see him in the OKC game when he had that wild assist to Tre reaching around his defender, followed by an uncredited block on SGA, next he pulled up for three from the logo and buried it right in Chet's face. Then Jalen Williams, Devin, and SGA trade baskets. Then Vic goes and buries a three in Chet's face right in front of the OKC bench, Chet comes back and tries to drop a fadeaway on Vic and gets dad blocked, Devin scoops a layup past Chet, Wemby nearly blocks Chet's three that's way short and leaks out for the dunk but Jalen Williams gets back in time to just break it up and knock it out of bounds. Whole crowd is chanting Wemby's name, like 2:20 has elapsed in this whole sequence. Still don't really even have my voice back lol.

baseline bum
03-11-2024, 04:56 PM
I was there for the Bucks game, I've been lucky

Crowd must have been insane when Victor dribbled behind his back past Lillard and then dunked on Lopez. And that block on Giannis that I have second only to the one he put on Anfernee Simons. Even having seen David in his rookie year I have still never seen anything like Victor.

scott
03-11-2024, 04:57 PM
I got to see him in the OKC game when he had that wild assist to Tre reaching around his defender, followed by an uncredited block on SGA, next he pulled up for three from the logo and buried it right in Chet's face. Then Jalen Williams, Devin, and SGA trade baskets. Then Vic goes and buries a three in Chet's face right in front of the OKC bench, Chet comes back and tries to drop a fadeaway on Vic and gets dad blocked, Devin scoops a layup past Chet, Wemby nearly blocks Chet's three that's way short and leaks out for the dunk but Jalen Williams gets back in time to just break it up and knock it out of bounds. Whole crowd is chanting Wemby's name, like 2:20 has elapsed in this whole sequence. Still don't really even have my voice back lol.

Dang, what an awesome game to be at. I just got to listen to Clips home fans heckle the shit out of Wemby :lol

Also, learned my lesson that baseline seats really aren't that great when there is a giant basketball hoop in the way of seeing the other side of the court :lol

spurraider21
03-11-2024, 06:22 PM
Pretty insane in person. Especially if you get to see him go on one of his nuclear runs.
co-signed

ive already seen him twice, once in washington once in LA. in washignton he didnt even seem to play particularly well but its still hilarious when he makes plays just due to his sheer length. was good to see a W tho

in LA i saw his 5x5 game, and especially in the first half he was all over the place and all the laker fans at staples were in awe when he was popping off early

Mugen
03-11-2024, 06:29 PM
I only got to see Vic in that first Clippers game when we lost by 40 :lol

Same tbh :lol

manufan10
03-11-2024, 06:46 PM
Damn. He’ll probably sit tomorrow on the b2b, and I have tickets.

Same. Taking my kids to their first game. :depressed:cry

manufan10
03-11-2024, 06:48 PM
Yeah almost got tickets for that game and then as soon as I heard Victor was out vs Sac texted my brother and told him probably a bad idea to get tickets the second game of a B2B after he turned his ankle and that we should catch another game later on.

I bought mine a month ago. Now I'm kicking myself because I could have been there tonight instead.

emanueldavidginobili
03-11-2024, 07:02 PM
Yeah I need to buy my tickets closer to the date next time because we're all buying them to check out Wemby live for the first time and if he doesn't play that would blow. I bought tickets to the Nuggets game in Denver on April 2nd. Made sure it wasn't a back to back at least, just hoping he plays.

ace3g
03-11-2024, 07:10 PM
https://twitter.com/BallySportsSA/status/1767342137371144203

Pauleta14
03-12-2024, 07:22 PM
https://youtu.be/xgrayTtwBFY?si=ZCEkIC44Yifa-VOw

lefty
03-15-2024, 09:06 AM
Draymond on Wemby:


https://youtu.be/ABqfL3p9DmQ?si=toS9-9ejN_9A2ZmP

exstatic
03-15-2024, 12:38 PM
Ryan Rusillo

3Erc6R5063I

ginobilized
03-15-2024, 12:51 PM
Is Draymond wanting to come to SA?
I enjoy his takes, very intelligent basketball mind.

I get to see Wemby on Sunday in Austin!!!! He better play.

exstatic
03-15-2024, 12:57 PM
Is Draymond wanting to come to SA?
I enjoy his takes, very intelligent basketball mind.

I get to see Wemby on Sunday in Austin!!!! He better play.

He’s smart, but he’s mean,reckless,and stupid at times on the court. Better to find our own version of him that isn’t ready to age out of the league.

lefty
03-15-2024, 01:14 PM
He’s smart, but he’s mean,reckless,and stupid at times on the court. Better to find our own version of him that isn’t ready to age out of the league.
This tbh

spurraider21
03-15-2024, 01:40 PM
ive always liked draymond more than most on this board. he'd be a much better version of sochan, and in SOME ways, be a mentor. but he is way too loose of a cannon to be a leader, just turned 34, and is on year 1 of a 4 year contract.

and for those reasons, im out

Tyronn Lue
03-16-2024, 12:09 PM
You don't need a Draymond Green if you don't have the team around him to make his talents matter.

Knoxxx
03-17-2024, 01:42 PM
Noticed Spurs not throwing many lobs to Wemby, injury prevention strategy? (yes I am also aware we are terrible at throwing them).

Pauleta14
03-17-2024, 02:55 PM
Noticed Spurs not throwing many lobs to Wemby, injury prevention strategy? (yes I am also aware we are terrible at throwing them).

Best case scenario.

Knoxxx
03-17-2024, 03:34 PM
Best case scenario.

I am sure we will be assisted by a bigger stats geek than me with some “lob attempt” stats. It is also possible a putrid conversion rate is skewing my memory. I do feel like I can recall plenty of unsuccessful lobs, especially with the quick foul on Wemby and sending him to the line. Tiny pesky little creatures, trying to delay his greatness…

Pauleta14
03-17-2024, 05:41 PM
I am sure we will be assisted by a bigger stats geek than me with some “lob attempt” stats. It is also possible a putrid conversion rate is skewing my memory. I do feel like I can recall plenty of unsuccessful lobs, especially with the quick foul on Wemby and sending him to the line. Tiny pesky little creatures, trying to delay his greatness…

To be fair and Victor takes about it earlier in the season, all his previous teammates struggled for a time to adapt at passing him the ball. I can see the necessary adaptation period, but still after 60 games/8 months?

I also think that bc of the attention Victor gets on defense there’s a high risk of interception that restrain his teammates who aren’t natural passers.

scott
03-17-2024, 11:58 PM
1769554590247080250

baseline bum
03-18-2024, 01:35 AM
Is Draymond wanting to come to SA?
I enjoy his takes, very intelligent basketball mind.

I get to see Wemby on Sunday in Austin!!!! He better play.

Damn must have been nice to be in the building for that one tonight. Holy shit that reverse he did on Nic Claxton at the 1:00 mark of this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n9KtY8GT4

Splits
03-18-2024, 03:44 AM
I mean, Claxton is a 7 footer and VW makes him look like an oompa loompa. those b2b stuffs were nasty

thiste
03-18-2024, 07:36 AM
Victor just passed Tim for block totals by rookies in Spurs history:





BLOCKSGAMESMINUTESBLK/36AGE


1.
David Robinson3198230023.824


2.
Victor Wembanyama2076017424.319-20


3.
Tim Duncan2068232042.321

manufan10
03-18-2024, 08:15 AM
1769541396287963198

Splits
03-18-2024, 08:19 AM
Victor just passed Tim for block totals by rookies in Spurs history:






BLOCKS
GAMES
MINUTES
BLK/36
AGE


1.

David Robinson

319
82
3002
3.8
24


2.

Victor Wembanyama

207
60
1742
4.3
19-20


3.

Tim Duncan

206
82
3204
2.3
21





imagine VW playing 36 minutes a night (DRob played 36.5 and Tim 39 their rookie years).

he'd win DPOY this season

manufan10
03-18-2024, 08:21 AM
1769530500438233108

manufan10
03-18-2024, 08:24 AM
1769558422624596182

manufan10
03-18-2024, 08:24 AM
1769531204351427027

spurraider21
03-18-2024, 08:34 AM
When he’s on one, he can already take games over like the absolute best of the best. Nobody else takes over on both ends the way he does other than AD when he’s feeling it

exstatic
03-18-2024, 08:39 AM
imagine VW playing 36 minutes a night (DRob played 36.5 and Tim 39 their rookie years).

he'd win DPOY this season

He should win it anyways.

ginobilized
03-18-2024, 09:14 AM
Damn must have been nice to be in the building for that one tonight. Holy shit that reverse he did on Nic Claxton at the 1:00 mark of this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n9KtY8GT4

Yes, I got to see an amazing performance! It was incredibly loud in the Moody Center. Wemby really brought it. I'll write up a full report later.

Splits
03-18-2024, 09:21 AM
He should win it anyways.

He might

Pauleta14
03-18-2024, 09:26 AM
DPOY being an individual award, he should normally get it

I watched a podcast with Ryen Russillo fom the Ringer, who has a vote, explaining to Sean Elliott that he'll vote for Wemby despite Spurs's record...


https://youtu.be/3Erc6R5063I?si=yKpPcaQAy6RyEfHH

baseline bum
03-18-2024, 10:22 AM
Yes, I got to see an amazing performance! It was incredibly loud in the Moody Center. Wemby really brought it. I'll write up a full report later.

I was at the OKC game last month and damn can Wemby electrify a crowd

spurraider21
03-18-2024, 10:28 AM
I was at the OKC game last month and damn can Wemby electrify a crowd
he had staples ooing and aawing during his 5x5 game as well

ambchang
03-18-2024, 02:19 PM
Wemby should get DPoY but he won’t. The spurs are bad on defense as a team. What a wasted season of wembys defensive greatness. Would be the first rookie to win DPoY.

lefty
03-18-2024, 02:23 PM
Wemby should get DPoY but he won’t. The spurs are bad on defense as a team. What a wasted season of wembys defensive greatness. Would be the first rookie to win DPoY.
But the numbers show how better they are defensively when he is on the floor

Leetonidas
03-18-2024, 03:15 PM
Wemby is the real Lisan al-Gaib :worthy:

Knoxxx
03-18-2024, 03:21 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/spurs-victor-wembanyama-is-making-history-so-often-that-hes-practically-breaking-it/

We just have to keep pinching ourselves is this really real?!?

Frenchfred
03-18-2024, 05:40 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/spurs-victor-wembanyama-is-making-history-so-often-that-hes-practically-breaking-it/

We just have to keep pinching ourselves is this really real?!?

Wemby is great but sometimes I feel that the media is looking for any kind of stats to announce a record was broken.

KobesAchilles
03-18-2024, 05:47 PM
Victor covers all of Luka’s flaws and vice versa. They would be a match made in heaven. It’ll never happen but we can dream I guess. KJ and Collins plus 6 FRPs. Who say no :lol

scott
03-18-2024, 05:51 PM
Wemby is the real Lisan al-Gaib :worthy:

As it was written!

tonight...you
03-18-2024, 05:55 PM
Victor covers all of Luka’s flaws and vice versa. They would be a match made in heaven. It’ll never happen but we can dream I guess. KJ and Collins plus 6 FRPs. Who say no :lol
I say yes and I'll throw in Benny Hinn's magic jacket too!

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/5f1702e3-6e68-45e4-95e1-bc652931e681/de7lg6x-7c2f9143-5b64-42b5-8a15-21b567689615.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQz NzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZT BkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6 W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzVmMTcwMmUzLTZlNjgtNDVlNC05NW UxLWJjNjUyOTMxZTY4MVwvZGU3bGc2eC03YzJmOTE0My01YjY0 LTQyYjUtOGExNS0yMWI1Njc2ODk2MTUuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIj pbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.sPZWeZuX QsjejU3qKOPRGlY21zPRezrvPPlQkjR-FHo

ambchang
03-18-2024, 10:26 PM
But the numbers show how better they are defensively when he is on the floor

I agree which is why he should be. The other side is that no player has ever gotten the DPoY being on a poor defensive team. Like MVPs always come from winning teams (other than the westbr:lol:lolk MVP, which is a bloody joke). Well, at least none I can recall.

buttsR4rebounding
03-19-2024, 04:33 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/spurs-victor-wembanyama-is-making-history-so-often-that-hes-practically-breaking-it/

We just have to keep pinching ourselves is this really real?!?

He was a Sochan missed dunk away from back-to-back 5x5 games.

Mitch Cumsteen
03-19-2024, 11:15 AM
After Sunday’s monster performance, Victor Wembanyama’s rookie-season averages are:

20.8 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.3 SPG, 3.5 BPG

Those numbers have been reached for a season four times in NBA history:

Twice by prime Kareem, and twice by prime Hakeem]

Kareem: 41.2 and 43.8 minutes per game respectively, when he did it.
Olajuwon: 39.5 and 41.0 mpg.
Wemby: 29.0 mpg.

He's absolutely going to break basketball when he gets stronger, better endurance, better teammates around him, and the game slows down for him.

Rosewood
03-19-2024, 12:25 PM
Just think, if Nephew didn’t do what he did we would have never been in the position to tank for this kid.

exstatic
03-19-2024, 12:29 PM
Just think, if Nephew didn’t do what he did we would have never been in the position to tank for this kid.

Yeah, he doesn’t get that pass from me.

lefty
03-19-2024, 03:32 PM
ClutchPoints ClutchPoints
Victor Wembanyama has more blocks + steals than any of the last 9 players in their DPOY-winning season… and there's still 14 games left ��


��Wembanyama — 283 (and counting)
��Jaren Jackson Jr — 254
��Marcus Smart — 137
��Rudy Gobert — 230
��Giannis Antetokounmpo — 127
��Draymond Green — 260
��Kawhi Leonard — 199
��Joakim Noah — 220
��Marc Gasol — 219
��Tyson Chandler — 145

Pauleta14
03-19-2024, 03:44 PM
ClutchPoints Clutch (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19891)Points
Victor Wembanyama has more blocks + steals than any of the last 9 players in their DPOY-winning season… and there's still 14 games left ��


��Wembanyama — 283 (and counting)
��Jaren Jackson Jr — 254
��Marcus Smart — 137
��Rudy Gobert — 230
��Giannis Antetokounmpo — 127
��Draymond Green — 260
��Kawhi Leonard — 199
��Joakim Noah — 220
��Marc Gasol — 219
��Tyson Chandler — 145


And he’s averaging 10min less/game than most. Maybe more :lol

It looks like the same process than before with Chet, people just taking their time to see the elephant in the room.

Victor needs to kill the debate the same way he did with Chet

baseline bum
03-19-2024, 03:47 PM
Wemby should get DPoY but he won’t. The spurs are bad on defense as a team. What a wasted season of wembys defensive greatness. Would be the first rookie to win DPoY.

Agreed, he is unquestionably the DPOY this year. What are they like 6th in the league when he's on the floor? Versus 21st or something overall? I remember seeing their defensive rating was 129 in games Wemby missed which is 9 points per 100 possessions worse than their 120 defensive rating last year which was the worst in NBA history. I don't know how that doesn't scream DPOY to take a historically terrible defense and lead them to sixth in the league when you're on the floor with them.

spurraider21
03-19-2024, 03:51 PM
dont think he'll win because DPOY kinda gets the MVP treatment, ie being the best player on one of the best teams, or here, being the best defender on one of the top defensive teams. its almost always been that way iirc. tho im not sure nuggets had much of a defense when camby won with pure blocks

the weirdest shit was when they started using the team success stuff in the ROY discussions

of course they just say "spurs defense bad" and dont take one step to see "spurs defense good with wemby on the floor"

Knoxxx
03-19-2024, 03:56 PM
Seems like when it comes to the minutes argument, that also is going to be a for and against type of argument. Bodes well for ROY but not DPOY. Stay thirsty my friends!

thiste
03-19-2024, 04:05 PM
Is Victor a top 15 player in the NBA this season? If he is, he should be All-NBA.

The Truth #6
03-19-2024, 04:17 PM
I don't remember DPOY typically being best defensive player on a good team. Used to be really simplistic, like who got the most blocked shots. I think in the last 10 years it's a little more nuanced with advanced stats. But I would say Wemby checks basic and advanced stats to win based on historical precedence.

spurraider21
03-19-2024, 05:22 PM
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scott
03-19-2024, 05:22 PM
Good food for the Wemby DPOY fire from our old friend Kirk Goldsberry

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Rosewood
03-19-2024, 05:44 PM
I don't remember DPOY typically being best defensive player on a good team. Used to be really simplistic, like who got the most blocked shots. I think in the last 10 years it's a little more nuanced with advanced stats. But I would say Wemby checks basic and advanced stats to win based on historical precedence. I'm not a basketball genius like these media guys are, but I don't think it's even close. His impact on defense is the largest in the league.

Knoxxx
03-19-2024, 06:03 PM
The way he’s surged since February I think has changed this discussion. Because, he should have been an all star if he was the DPOY front runner. Which he was probably not, a month ago.

Trill Clinton
03-19-2024, 09:49 PM
This loss is on him tonight. Led the team in turnovers and did not shoot the ball well tonight.

Tyronn Lue
03-19-2024, 09:53 PM
I'm not a basketball genius like these media guys are, but I don't think it's even close. His impact on defense is the largest in the league.
Victor out there stat whoring blocks and steals, and defensive rankings while he's in the game.

Thomas82
03-20-2024, 12:01 AM
Kareem: 41.2 and 43.8 minutes per game respectively, when he did it.
Olajuwon: 39.5 and 41.0 mpg.
Wemby: 29.0 mpg.

He's absolutely going to break basketball when he gets stronger, better endurance, better teammates around him, and the game slows down for him.

Agreed.

thiste
03-20-2024, 07:28 AM
Kyrie agrees with Victor getting DPOY, high praises here:

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1770312065447571895

Brazil
03-20-2024, 08:08 AM
dont think he'll win because DPOY kinda gets the MVP treatment, ie being the best player on one of the best teams, or here, being the best defender on one of the top defensive teams. its almost always been that way iirc. tho im not sure nuggets had much of a defense when camby won with pure blocks

the weirdest shit was when they started using the team success stuff in the ROY discussions

of course they just say "spurs defense bad" and dont take one step to see "spurs defense good with wemby on the floor"

That's actually not true, this is being mentionned a lot by most of the analysts, that's why he is in the conversation in the first place and runner up favorite according to Vegas odds despite playing for the worst defensive team of the league with an atrocious W/L ratio.

I'd be fine with him getting first team.


When he is on the floor Spurs are one of the best defensive team in the NBA but so far he is on the floor only 29 mpg, being able to play more mpg also matters. In before Pauleta comes with his but but this is Pop holding him back, if you pay attention, stamina is a topic and it is ok Victor is 19 y/o, besides minutes management enabled him to pass very well the famous rookie wall.

Rudy on the other hand plays 5 more minutes, has less blocks and steals (- 2 pg) but also has less TO (- 2 pg) which is also linked to the fact he has less usage, as far as I remember Victor has better numbers on decreasing opponent efficiency when attacking him but it's close. Rudy is also playing for the best defensive team... all in all it would not be a total robbery to see Rudy DPOY and Victor runner up.

Spurs Homer
03-20-2024, 08:29 AM
Can anyone here explain one thing to me…to us…

why does every fucking team have multiple players who can run a simple pick and roll and toss the ball high over their shoulder 3 feet in front of the basket - higher than the basket to their big man who then goes after it for an easy dunk….


EXCEPT THE FUCKING SPURS?

LeBowen
03-20-2024, 09:02 AM
Can anyone here explain one thing to me…to us…

why does every fucking team have multiple players who can run a simple pick and roll and toss the ball high over their shoulder 3 feet in front of the basket - higher than the basket to their big man who then goes after it for an easy dunk….


EXCEPT THE FUCKING SPURS?

The answer is actually kind of simple.
Both legit point guards we had were traded away in order to tank for Wemby.
Now our point guard is a second rounder who is a decent player, but nothing special.
PATFO understandably passed on Haliburton because back then both DJ and Derrick were on the roster.
Primo, Branham and Wesley were guards that were projected to have some playmaking ability, but they're all useless in that regard.

On the other hand, there's no logical explanation for Spurs constantly piling up on wings that either can't shoot or are traffic cones on defense. Sometimes both.

MannyIsGod
03-20-2024, 09:23 AM
Can anyone here explain one thing to me…to us…

why does every fucking team have multiple players who can run a simple pick and roll and toss the ball high over their shoulder 3 feet in front of the basket - higher than the basket to their big man who then goes after it for an easy dunk….


EXCEPT THE FUCKING SPURS?

I legit have no idea how the Spurs are this bad at throwing lobs. I say it on an almost daily basis. Oh, and entry passes. Its like no one has ever told them to aim for the hand. They try so many bounce passes in that are below Wemby's waist. Its insane how bad they are at getting him the ball.

thiste
03-20-2024, 09:48 AM
Rudy on the other hand plays 5 more minutes, has less blocks and steals (- 2 pg) but also has less TO (- 2 pg) which is also linked to the fact he has less usage, as far as I remember Victor has better numbers on decreasing opponent efficiency when attacking him but it's close. Rudy is also playing for the best defensive team... all in all it would not be a total robbery to see Rudy DPOY and Victor runner up.

I don't see the argument for turnovers. Victor's turnovers happen on offense, not on defense, and they have nothing to do with his DPOY bid.

Other than that yeah giving it to Rudy would not be a robbery at all. I've seen no one claiming that he wouldn't deserve it. But Victor is making a big push with his performances and he has more and more advocates looks like.

spurraider21
03-20-2024, 10:04 AM
I don't see the argument for turnovers. Victor's turnovers happen on offense, not on defense, and they have nothing to do with his DPOY bid.

Other than that yeah giving it to Rudy would not be a robbery at all. I've seen no one claiming that he wouldn't deserve it. But Victor is making a big push with his performances and he has more and more advocates looks like.
i mean you could get into the weeds of it and say that turnovers lead to fastbreak opportunities which are tough to defend, but ive never really heard that used in the context of DPOY races, and its all factored into the defensive impact stats anyway

Brazil
03-20-2024, 10:41 AM
I don't see the argument for turnovers. Victor's turnovers happen on offense, not on defense, and they have nothing to do with his DPOY bid.

Other than that yeah giving it to Rudy would not be a robbery at all. I've seen no one claiming that he wouldn't deserve it. But Victor is making a big push with his performances and he has more and more advocates looks like.


i mean you could get into the weeds of it and say that turnovers lead to fastbreak opportunities which are tough to defend, but ive never really heard that used in the context of DPOY races, and its all factored into the defensive impact stats anyway

I mentioned turnovers because it is a lost possession giving indeed opponent opportunities for easy buckets as defense is not set, also Victor has a lot of T/O in our half court (eyes test, I don't have the numbers here) but you are both right nobody uses it when discussing DPOY even though I think it is relevant...

Spurs Homer
03-20-2024, 02:45 PM
I legit have no idea how the Spurs are this bad at throwing lobs. I say it on an almost daily basis. Oh, and entry passes. Its like no one has ever told them to aim for the hand. They try so many bounce passes in that are below Wemby's waist. Its insane how bad they are at getting him the ball.


baffling

its not even a difficult pass to make…just throw it up over the basket and wemby is the only one in the nba that can go get it

Splits
03-20-2024, 04:35 PM
noose is getting tighter...

https://i.ibb.co/crbGLSg/image.png

Pauleta14
03-20-2024, 05:27 PM
It's the exact same proccess than with Chet

They keep the same narrative of "wins matters blabla" until what Vic is doing become overwhelming and they accept the evidence

Every rules have exceptions and Victor is one

lefty
03-20-2024, 11:52 PM
Kyrie agrees with Victor getting DPOY, high praises here:

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1770312065447571895

Paul Pierce is a fan of Wemby and has picked him for DPOY

exstatic
03-21-2024, 06:25 AM
Wemby bends offenses the way Curry bends defenses, period, and he’s doing it at age 20. At age 21, Rudy was still splitting time between the NBA and the gleague, and was putting down a whopping 2.3p/3.4r/0.9b with the big club.

exstatic
03-21-2024, 06:28 AM
Paul Pierce is a fan of Wemby and has picked him for DPOY

Ryan Rusillo is voting for him,too.

Pauleta14
03-21-2024, 04:18 PM
https://youtu.be/yfcpsS57S3Q?si=hwhfR_3-1kAgLmff

thiste
03-22-2024, 07:36 AM
Thanasis on "that" game and "that" block :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqd86LmOdo

lefty
03-22-2024, 08:07 AM
Ryan Rusillo is voting for him,too.
yep, caught his podcast

spurraider21
03-27-2024, 04:55 PM
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Seventyniner
03-27-2024, 05:43 PM
Damn, what a stat. I knew Wemby shot much better on pullup threes than catch-and-shoot, but I didn't know about the breakdown of stepback versus other pullup shots.

NBA.com shows that Wemby is 51-128 (39.8%) on pullup threes this season. The chart in the tweet shows 21-43 (48.8%) on stepbacks.

That means Wemby is 30-85 (35.3%) on pullup threes that aren't stepbacks. Good for a center but nothing game-breaking, though still far better than his 51-193 (26.4%) on catch-and-shoot threes.

Knoxxx
03-27-2024, 07:23 PM
Sounds like we want him to keep shooting threes

Knoxxx
03-27-2024, 07:29 PM
This fool is criticizing Wemby:

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2024/3/27/24114122/how-victor-wembanyama-can-improve-his-offensive-game

Spurs Talk, ATTACK!!!

tonight...you
03-27-2024, 08:18 PM
This fool is criticizing Wemby:

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2024/3/27/24114122/how-victor-wembanyama-can-improve-his-offensive-game

Spurs Talk, ATTACK!!!
Lol. I like the cut of your gib.

Splits
03-28-2024, 09:00 AM
This fool is criticizing Wemby:

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2024/3/27/24114122/how-victor-wembanyama-can-improve-his-offensive-game

Spurs Talk, ATTACK!!!

lol pounding the cock

manufan10
03-28-2024, 03:25 PM
https://preview.redd.it/ixeh99uzqzqc1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&b7168b54

ace3g
03-29-2024, 10:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJ4yr08XcAE_DwT?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

thiste
03-29-2024, 10:24 PM
ROOKIE HIGHPTSREBASTSTLBLKAGE



David Robinson4121751224



Tim Duncan352293821



Victor Wembanyama40201061019-20

MultiTroll
03-29-2024, 10:29 PM
^
Was just gonna say a Player of His Generation Timmy Duncan type performance by Wemby.

Splits
03-29-2024, 10:31 PM
ROOKIE HIGH

PTS
REB
AST
STL
BLK
AGE



David Robinson

41
21
7
5
12
24



Tim Duncan

35
22
9
3
8
21



Victor Wembanyama

40
20
10
6
10
19-20





umm, no. what is this garbage.

thiste
03-29-2024, 10:33 PM
umm, no. what is this garbage.

You don't get it?

Rosewood
03-29-2024, 10:35 PM
ROOKIE HIGH

PTS
REB
AST
STL
BLK
AGE



David Robinson

41
21
7
5
12
24



Tim Duncan

35
22
9
3
8
21



Victor Wembanyama

40
20
10
6
10
19-20




David was such a monster his rookie year :lol

ace3g
03-29-2024, 10:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_anshQx84

Splits
03-29-2024, 10:48 PM
You don't get it?

those numbers are not accurate. He didn't have 10 assists or 10 blocks or 6 steals. Get your shit together

Rosewood
03-29-2024, 10:50 PM
those numbers are not accurate. He didn't have 10 assists or 10 blocks or 6 steals. Get your shit together It’s the highest total of every stat from any game in their rookie seasons. Not a single game.

Splits
03-29-2024, 10:58 PM
It’s the highest total of every stat from any game in their rookie seasons. Not a single game.

stupid

ace3g
03-30-2024, 05:23 AM
https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1773914966959247776

exstatic
03-30-2024, 06:03 AM
stupid

Yes, you are.

Silentbob
03-30-2024, 07:01 AM
Kinda has the same vibe as that timmy walk after hitting a game winner against atlanta in 2013.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3665965/duncanHOF.gif

exstatic
03-30-2024, 08:04 AM
https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1773914966959247776

Brunson didn’t get his personal best scoring game ball for his trophy case.

John B
03-30-2024, 08:17 AM
Kinda has the same vibe as that timmy walk after hitting a game winner against atlanta in 2013.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3665965/duncanHOF.gif

Exactly what I was thinking

Das Texan
03-30-2024, 08:38 AM
Just wait until Victor really figures out this league. His learning rate is far quicker than I think most anticipated.

NBA is fucked, if Spurs can find someone that can really compliment Victor well.

tim_duncan_fan
03-30-2024, 12:41 PM
Not bad for a guy who is only like 9 years old.

fafo
03-30-2024, 01:00 PM
Honestly, I don't know why Brunson would want the ball from when he got beat by a tanking team. He's talented enough that he may beat that score someday.

skin27
03-30-2024, 02:24 PM
David was such a monster his rookie year :lol

Because he was 24 years old in his rookie year.. normally players start to hit their prime at the age of 24 or 25..

ace3g
03-30-2024, 02:49 PM
https://twitter.com/UsherNBA/status/1773911923878412468

slick'81
03-30-2024, 02:49 PM
Enjoy him San Antonio

baseline bum
03-30-2024, 03:59 PM
Just wait until Victor really figures out this league. His learning rate is far quicker than I think most anticipated.

NBA is fucked, if Spurs can find someone that can really compliment Victor well.

He's figuring it out fast. Remember how much Hartenstein and Robinson wrecked him their first matchup when he wasn't ready for their physicality? That really made this game something impressive.

skin27
03-30-2024, 06:33 PM
Enjoy him San Antonio


Whre donyou think he's gonna play if he oeaves san antonio?

exstatic
03-30-2024, 06:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJ4yr08XcAE_DwT?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

The look on Mitchell Robinson’s face is priceless.