2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[TimDunkem]

Sleepy Joe takes OK.

[TimDunkem]

Warren fucking over Bernie so hard in Mass right now. Smh

[Reck]

Biden leading in Mass according to ze google. And by a good bit too. Wow unexpected.

Bernie better pray California delivers him from what would be at worst, a terrible night for him and at bare minimum a tie.

[DarrinS]

Warren fucking over Bernie so hard in Mass right now. Smh

It's her state. :lol

[Will Hunting]

Biden leading in Mass according to ze google. And by a good bit too. Wow unexpected.

Bernie better pray California delivers him from what would be at worst, a terrible night for him and at bare minimum a tie.
I’m using Vox and Mass is still way too early to call, Suffolk County basically hasn’t reported anything yet.

[hater]

Biden leading in Mass according to ze google. And by a good bit too. Wow unexpected.

Bernie better pray California delivers him from what would be at worst, a terrible night for him and at bare minimum a tie.

Bernie needs to concede tonight tbqh

He lost North Virginia by 20 points

if he cannot win there he cannot win anywhere

I guess he will stay to rack up 2nd place and have a say in the convention but thats about it. plus they will mostly ignore him there. he should save energies and concede tonight

RIP Bernie

[Death In June]

The best the Democrats could do was ....Joe Biden. That is what the country pins its hopes on? Laughable. The party deserves to be buried.

[Reck]

I’m using Vox and Mass is still way too early to call, Suffolk County basically hasn’t reported anything yet.

Was too but they seem to be lagging badly.

According to the AP Bernie has won Colorado and Biden Oklahoma. Bernie enjoys what is looking to be a little too much to overcome in Texas.

[Arcadian]

I thought a lot of Republicans didn't like Trump too. So why are 94% of them voting for him again?

[Reck]

Bernie losing Oklahoma after winning it last time. Biden and fucking Bloomberg are canibalizing each other and he still lost it?

I'm starting to think he cant win anywhere. He's going to take a dip in the national polling.

[Will Hunting]

Was too but they seem to be lagging badly.

According to the AP Bernie has won Colorado and Biden Oklahoma. Bernie enjoys what is looking to be a little too much to overcome in Texas.
If he wins Texas by >5% I’m cautiously optimistic tonight wasn’t a total disaster for him.

[Pelicans78]

Biden wins Tennessee

[vy65]

bernie will sweep tuesday tbqh
voting for him first thing that morning


thats not a path

whats Bidens path to the nomination?


Bid:loln

Bl:lol:lolmberg

and ...


Bernie needs to concede tonight tbqh

He lost North Virginia by 20 points

if he cannot win there he cannot win anywhere

I guess he will stay to rack up 2nd place and have a say in the convention but thats about it. plus they will mostly ignore him there. he should save energies and concede tonight

RIP Bernie

You're terrible at this. Stop posting.

[spurraider21]

If he wins Texas by >5% I’m cautiously optimistic tonight wasn’t a total disaster for him.
comes down to the CA margin...

[hater]

and ...



You're terrible at this. Stop posting.

:lmao you sound triggered Nancy

cheer up :lol

[vy65]

:lmao you sound triggered Nancy

cheer up :lol

Yeah, the guy I wanted to lose actually losing has me totally triggered.


bernie will sweep tuesday tbqh


Bernie needs to concede tonight tbqh

:lmao

[Reck]

My man...how is Bernie only barely getting 50% in his own fucking state? It should've been 100 to 0.

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) and florige (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7995) might want to re-adjust their view he can win more easily than dementia Joe.

[hater]

Yeah, the guy I wanted to lose actually losing has me totally triggered.





:lmao

:lol you are sounding like a sourpuss vagina tbqh

you must be a joy at parties :lmao

[Will Hunting]

comes down to the CA margin...
Agreed. I’m crossing my fingers that Biden momentum was largely isolated in the South and that West Coast hasn’t changed much.

[spurraider21]

Minnesota, Maine, and Massachusetts... those are the states Warren can proudly say she delivered to Biden if they hold up the way they are

[picnroll]

No sweat. Couple of more stents and Bernie’s good for 2024.

[spurraider21]

It's her state. :lol
minnesota was amy's state. she moved aside for biden. warren should have followed suit.

[Will Hunting]

My man...how is Bernie only barely getting 50% in his own fucking state? It should've been 100 to 0.

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) and florige (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7995) might want to re-adjust their view he can win more easily than dementia Joe.
It’s the one Super Tuesday state where he didn’t campaign or run any ads. He made no effort in VT.

[vy65]

:lol you are sounding like a sourpuss vagina tbqh

you must be a joy at parties :lmao


bernie will sweep tuesday tbqh


Bernie needs to concede tonight tbqh

:lmao

[spurraider21]

why would sanders be chasing vermont :lol... its a state he would carry with little to no time invested which has a total of 16 delegates

[DarrinS]

Who are these people voting for Bloomberg? :lol

[Will Hunting]

Who are these people voting for Bloomberg? :lol
I’m stunned by how many votes he’s getting.

[DarrinS]

minnesota was amy's state. she moved aside for biden. warren should have followed suit.

Yep. But, nevertheless, she persisted. :lol

[vy65]

I’m stunned by how many votes he’s getting.

And those are votes he's pulling from Biden

[Reck]

why would sanders be chasing vermont :lol... its a state he would carry with little to no time invested which has a total of 16 delegates

Just pointed that out because dude won it 85 to 13% last time.

[baseline bum]

My man...how is Bernie only barely getting 50% in his own fucking state? It should've been 100 to 0.

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) and florige (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7995) might want to re-adjust their view he can win more easily than dementia Joe.

Welp, we're fucked

[spurraider21]

dems in 2024:

guys we need Pete to unify the country and win over moderates

[spurraider21]

Yep. But, nevertheless, she persisted. :lol
she failed to recognize what pete/amy did... so disappointing (disappointing is a theme of her campaign)

[Reck]

she failed to recognize what pete/amy did... so disappointing (disappointing is a theme of her campaign)

She has loyalty to the party. Much less so than Bernie, a self appointed Independent and socialist. His words, not mine.

[Will Hunting]

she failed to recognize what pete/amy did... so disappointing (disappointing is a theme of her campaign)
Either that or she made a deal with Biden to stay in the race. Warren has made it pretty clear that her loyalty to the establishment trumps the progressive ideals she ostensibly holds.

[Will Hunting]

She has loyalty to the party. Much less so than Bernie, a self appointed Independent and socialist. His words, not mine.
How is staying in the race when you know you’re going to lose loyalty to the party? It’s definitely loyalty to the establishment but I don’t see how it’s loyalty to the party.

[Will Hunting]

dems in 2024:

guys we need Pete to unify the country and win over moderates
Yeah unfortunately who do the progressives have to run in 2024? I think everyone will be tired of Warren by then and Bernie is too fucking old.

[boutons_deux]

Warren is definitely in to pull votes away from Bernie

[spurraider21]

it could be argued that boomerberg is hurting biden more than warren is hurting sanders... but boomerberg is a narcissistic douchebag whereas warren was supposed to stand for something

[Reck]

AP calls Minessota for Biden.

Again I ask how is it Biden is beating Sanders on states Sanders had won or was supposed to du uber good in?

[spurraider21]

Yeah unfortunately who do the progressives have to run in 2024? I think everyone will be tired of Warren by then and Bernie is too fucking old.
honestly... its going to have to be warren, imo

[Reck]

How is staying in the race when you know you’re going to lose loyalty to the party? It’s definitely loyalty to the establishment but I don’t see how it’s loyalty to the party.

Is there a distinctive difference? To me, the party is the establishment.

[spurraider21]

AP calls Minessota for Biden.

Again I ask how is it Biden is beating Sanders on states Sanders had won or was supposed to du uber good in?
klobuchar endorsement carried. bernie is down by 4 points but warren is pulling 17-18%

not that 100% of warren's vote would have gone to sanders, but likely enough to get him past biden, imo

[Reck]

it could be argued that boomerberg is hurting biden more than warren is hurting sanders... but boomerberg is a narcissistic douchebag whereas warren was supposed to stand for something

Thank you for seeing it.

I see a lot of comments about how Warren is taking from Bernie but Bloomberg is costing Biden in places like Texas, Arkansas etc and still winning. I dont know man..

[Reck]

Arkansas called for Biden.

California might not even matter at this point.

[Will Hunting]

AP calls Minessota for Biden.

Again I ask how is it Biden is beating Sanders on states Sanders had won or was supposed to du uber good in?
California, Minnesota, Maine and Massachusetts are the states Warren stayed in the race to help Biden with. Bernie would be winning all of those states handily if it weren’t for Warren.

[ducks]

Warren killing sanders ad her to sanders he wins states
She can not win
She might be broke tonight

[Trill Clinton]

Who are these people voting for Bloomberg? :lol

Early votes when Biden looked like he was done imo

[Reck]

California, Minnesota, Maine and Massachusetts are the states Warren stayed in the race to help Biden with. Bernie would be winning all of those states handily if it weren’t for Warren.

And Texas would've been called for Biden like 2 hours ago. Texas counts for all those states combin save for obviously Calif. The excuses are running thin.

[ducks]

DNC is telling warren to stay in

[Will Hunting]

And Texas would've been called for Biden like 2 hours ago. Texas counts for all those states combine. The excuses are running thin.
Didn’t take long for you to back the moderate corporatist again :lol

[Reck]

Didn’t take long for you to back the moderate corporatist again :lol

I am? I am just being real. I said I would have voted for either and have stated since 2016 that Bernie is not my cup of tea.

Honestly I try calling balls and strikes on both sides but get called out by you guys. I dont get it. Whatever.

[Reck]

Utah too early too call. lol

[TimDunkem]

Utah too early too call. lol

Bernie will win it. Biden might get a delegate or two though.

[Will Hunting]

Really strange that Bernie is getting his teeth kicked in everywhere else but is doing decent in Texas.

[TimDunkem]

Really strange that Bernie is getting his teeth kicked in everywhere else but is doing decent in Texas.

Bernie gets Hispanics, Joe gets African-Americans.

[Reck]

https://racing-forums.com/attachments/upload_2020-3-3_21-1-57-jpeg.45772/

Bernie subreddit in full meltdown right now.

Yeah sure kid, it's the states fault you didn't registered in time or at all. This is why the youth vote is unreliable.

[DarrinS]

it could be argued that boomerberg is hurting biden more than warren is hurting sanders... but boomerberg is a narcissistic douchebag whereas warren was supposed to stand for something

This

[ducks]

Bernie only talkes
About top one percent and people
Coming out of college debt free

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1235032898878795783?s=20

:wow

Biden is running a shit campaign and still cleaning up.

[Reck]

Bernie basically concedes by coming out early and making his speech.

[Nathan89]

Really strange that Bernie is getting his teeth kicked in everywhere else but is doing decent in Texas.

Some are saying early voting is a big portion of the early results and are expecting Biden to close the gap. Also Bloomberg is taking a massive amount of votes from Biden by blasting the airwaves with ads.

[boutons_deux]

415 delegates in CA, the Big Prize, favoring Bernie

[Will Hunting]

Some are saying early voting is a big portion of the early results and are expecting Biden to close the gap. Also Bloomberg is taking a massive amount of votes from Biden by blasting the airwaves with ads.
That would make sense since Buttplug and Klobuchar have over 10% of the vote right now collectively.

[ducks]

Be 2 weeks for cal to vote them

[Reck]

415 delegates in CA, the Big Prize, favoring Bernie

I doubt he gets what he was projected to get. Biden will most certainly get 15% or more now.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1235033885295226880?s=20

[Reck]

If Bloomberg drops out I think Biden might get an outright majority?

[DarrinS]

Damn, does Buttplug really have double Warren's delegate count? Sad

[TimDunkem]

It took about 20 seconds before Biden fucked up his speech and called his wife his sister. This country is fucked. :lmao

[DarrinS]

It took about 20 seconds before Biden fucked up his speech and called his wife his sister. This country is fucked. :lmao

Seriously? :lmao

[Spurtacular]

Joe's giving his victory speech...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwkNnMrsx7Q

[vy65]

Biden slowly closing the gap in Texas

[Spurtacular]

Seriously? :lmao

More like five seconds actually.

[ducks]

It took about 20 seconds before Biden fucked up his speech and called his wife his sister. This country is fucked. :lmao

Biden is a clown

[phxspurfan]

Bernie gonna lose bc of the Establishment Super Delegates

[Reck]

Biden starting to eat Bernie's lead in Tex.

[benefactor]

Biden is a clown
So we are stuck with a clown either way:tu

[phxspurfan]

lol Let Dairy Die protesters at Biden's stump speech

[Reck]

Bernie gonna lose bc of the Establishment Super Delegates

After tonight, will that even matter? Biden is winning earned pledge delegates.

[Spurtacular]

Joe Biden gave this same speech pretty much for the last four or five decades.

[ChumpDumper]

and ...



You're terrible at this. Stop posting.

Called it.

[Spurtacular]

After tonight, will that even matter? Biden is winning earned pledge delegates.

You sure about that, tranny?

[phxspurfan]

After tonight, will that even matter? Biden is winning earned pledge delegates.

But neither may get to that magic number, close to 2000 or whatever. All bc of the stupid random third party candidates being egotists

[Reck]

Biden is butchering his speech.

[Spurtacular]

Biden gonna lose hard if he's going to try and play the integrity card.

[Reck]

Joe Biden gave this same speech pretty much for the last four or five decades.

In his case that's good. If he goes off prompter he might just slip and say I fucked my daughter last night.

[TimDunkem]

Dear God it hurts to listen to Biden talk. 4 more years of Trump incoming.

[Spurtacular]

In his case that's good. If he goes off prompter he might just slip and say I fucked my daughter last night.

Pretty much.

[phxspurfan]

In his case that's good. If he goes off prompter he might just slip and say I fucked my daughter last night.

He caught himself going off the cuff mid speech and changed tone completely lol

[Spurtacular]

Biden's reach exceeds his supporters' grasp. Inspirational.

[DarrinS]

Biden is so much better when he speaks slowly and with less volume. :lol

[phxspurfan]

Dear God it hurts to listen to Biden talk. 4 more years of Trump incoming.

He keeps clinging to Obama's balls: "Obama Biden democrats unite!" like it's fucking 13 years ago

[Will Hunting]

:lmao if the Republican nominee sounded half as retarded as Biden Democrats would be shitting all over him.

[Reck]

Dear God it hurts to listen to Biden talk. 4 more years of Trump incoming.

Hearing Trump talk is worst.

[TimDunkem]

He keeps clinging to Obama's balls: "Obama Biden democrats unite!" like it's fucking 13 years ago

Sadly that's enough to sweep the South.

[Spurs Homer]

What a fucking horrible biden “speech”

someone give him his fucking meds

[Trainwreck2100]

https://racing-forums.com/attachments/upload_2020-3-3_21-1-57-jpeg.45772/

Bernie subreddit in full meltdown right now.

Yeah sure kid, it's the states fault you didn't registered in time or at all. This is why the youth vote is unreliable.

He had like 5 subredditsb and I wouldn't be shocked if one is Russian. But fuck those guys all of them their overconfidence since Iowa was annoying

[TimDunkem]

Hearing Trump talk is worst.

At least Trump excites his party's base.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao if the Republican nominee sounded half as retarded as Biden Democrats would be shitting all over him.

Biden winning a battleground Rust Belt state is huge though. It's not all the ruby red states that Biden has won tonight.

[Millennial_Messiah]

wtf is "Let Dairy Die" anyways??!? Is this in honor of AOC's "let's get rid of all the farting cows" comment? Or is it for national top-freedom?

[baseline bum]

Sanders' only path to the nomination now is if he completely dominates the rust belt states with Biden taking Virginia, Minnesota, and North Carolina and likely being a huge favorite in Florida. The only state that matters much towards a general election that Bernie won tonight is Colorado. This race is about 95% over. This is total disaster for the Sanders campaign.

[DarrinS]

Hearing Trump talk is worst.

Be best

[boutons_deux]

from an email

"Moments ago, in the middle of tonight's Super Tuesday primary returns,

Democrat Kevin O'Connell was declared the WINNER of a special election for the Maine House!

This district favored Donald Trump by nearly 8 points in 2016,

making it a prime target for Republicans up and down the ballot and

a key bellwether for Susan Collins' re-election chances."

[Millennial_Messiah]

Sanders' only path to the nomination now is if he completely dominates the rust belt states with Biden taking Virginia, Minnesota, and North Carolina and likely being a huge favorite in Florida. The only state that matters much towards a general election that Bernie won tonight is Colorado. This race is about 95% over. This is total disaster for the Sanders campaign.

Bernie can win WA, CA, OR big time plus the rest of the mountain west states, ND, SD, NE etc and then WI and MI but IL, IN, PA and OH are too black for Bernie IMO.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah I’m no longer convinced Bernie would have done much for voter turnout come the general election. These results are awful for him even when you factor in media favoritism.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/results-super-tuesday-primary-election.html

[Spurtacular]

Sanders' only path to the nomination now is if he completely dominates the rust belt states with Biden taking Virginia, Minnesota, and North Carolina and likely being a huge favorite in Florida. The only state that matters much towards a general election that Bernie won tonight is Colorado. This race is about 95% over. This is total disaster for the Sanders campaign.

You're way too optimistic. The Bernie/Biden contrast going forward favors Commie Cuck. All those last minute dropouts helped b/c people weren't being especially critical of Biden.

[vy65]

Comrade was up 6% in Texas. Now 3.9%.

[benefactor]

At least Trump excites his party's base.
Most of his base has a combined IQ of a pound cake tho tbh

[Will Hunting]

You're way too optimistic. The Bernie/Biden contrast going forward favors Commie Cuck. All those last minute dropouts helped b/c people weren't being especially critical of Biden.
This is definitely true and it’s my main criticism of how this has been handled. Biden was basically allowed to coast through the month of February without any spotlight on his dementia symptoms and then he gets a huge boost 24-48 hours before Super Tuesday with drop outs/endorsements. It was basically a perfect storm for a candidate who needed a path that allowed for as little exposure and media appearances as possible.

Still too little too late though for any Bernie comeback after this imo.

[Chinook]

Wonder how big of a deal Corona played in all this. I got in and out of the voting place in like a half-hour, but I could imagine someone worrying about being stuck in a line with a bunch of people potentially spreading the virus. We're talking about people who wouldn't normally vote here. You add that to the belief that Sanders was going to clean up today potentially creating a 2016-esque situation where way fewer people turned out because they didn't think they had to. I could see this being a underrepresented result.

But you could argue that if anyone was going to show up under fears of virus, that it'd be Sanders people, so maybe not.

[Will Hunting]

Most of his base has a combined IQ of a pound cake tho tbh
The South Carolina spear chuckers who voted for Biden aren’t any smarter.

[spurraider21]

Yeah I’m no longer convinced Bernie would have done much for voter turnout come the general election. These results are awful for him even when you factor in media favoritism.
yeah, i dont know. at this point older dems were scared of the unknown, but imo if we walked away with the nom in june and the party was more or less behind him, over the span of several months between then and the election those people would have warmed up to him

[ChumpDumper]

Wonder how big of a deal Corona played in all this. I got in and out of the voting place in like a half-hour, but I could imagine someone worrying about being stuck in a line with a bunch of people potentially spreading the virus. We're talking about people who wouldn't normally vote here. You add that to the belief that Sanders was going to clean up today potentially creating a 2016-esque situation where way fewer people turned out because they didn't think they had to. I could see this being a underrepresented result.

But you could argue that if anyone was going to show up under fears of virus, that it'd be Sanders people, so maybe not. Wouldn't Sanders supporters be more likely to be anti vaccine?

Fearless bunch if true.

[ChumpDumper]

The South Carolina spear chuckers who voted for Biden aren’t any smarter.KKKlassy

[Chinook]

Wouldn't Sanders supporters be more likely to be anti vaccine?

Fearless bunch if true.

Um... I don't know why they'd be anti-vax but pro health care. But maybe?

[ducks]

Mike has more delegates then warren

[ChumpDumper]

Um... I don't know why they'd be anti-vax but pro health care. But maybe?:lol that's why I asked. That's a weird demographic.

[Will Hunting]

yeah, i dont know. at this point older dems were scared of the unknown, but imo if we walked away with the nom in june and the party was more or less behind him, over the span of several months between then and the election those people would have warmed up to him
I think he could have done more to combat the fear of the unknown. I never heard him make the “We nominated a moderate 4 years ago and she lost” argument even when it was begging to be made.

Still think it’s a massive fuck up to pick someone like Biden who’s an effective fuck you to the Bernie voters. Wouldn’t even need someone like Warren to appease the Bros imo, instead the DNC picked a guy who’s widely known for being a moderate.

[Will Hunting]

:lol that's why I asked. That's a weird demographic.
I think he was saying the BernieBros would be the enthusiastic ones willing to risk getting coronavirus while waiting in line.

[ChumpDumper]

It's insane how well Joe is doing with virtually money.

[spurraider21]

It's insane how well Joe is doing with virtually money.
he's getting money out of politics!

[Spurtacular]

This is definitely true and it’s my main criticism of how this has been handled. Biden was basically allowed to coast through the month of February without any spotlight on his dementia symptoms and then he gets a huge boost 24-48 hours before Super Tuesday with drop outs/endorsements. It was basically a perfect storm for a candidate who needed a path that allowed for as little exposure and media appearances as possible.

Still too little too late though for any Bernie comeback after this imo.

Bernie gonna get a TX, CA boost to pull within punching distance. From there, he just has to outperform Joe state by state in the upcoming weeks.

[Reck]

Mass called by the AP for Biden.

[Spurtacular]

It's insane how well Joe is doing with virtually money.

Insane!

[ChumpDumper]

I think he was saying the BernieBros would be the enthusiastic ones willing to risk getting coronavirus while waiting in line.
I know but I'm just wondering whom the Goop readers et al might go for.

[spurraider21]

its equally amazing how well biden did in states where he had virtually no campaign presence

[Nathan89]

https://racing-forums.com/attachments/upload_2020-3-3_21-1-57-jpeg.45772/

Bernie subreddit in full meltdown right now.

Yeah sure kid, it's the states fault you didn't registered in time or at all. This is why the youth vote is unreliable.

Talking about r/politics? I just got banned for going against their Sanders circle jerk.

[baseline bum]

Wonder how big of a deal Corona played in all this. I got in and out of the voting place in like a half-hour, but I could imagine someone worrying about being stuck in a line with a bunch of people potentially spreading the virus. We're talking about people who wouldn't normally vote here. You add that to the belief that Sanders was going to clean up today potentially creating a 2016-esque situation where way fewer people turned out because they didn't think they had to. I could see this being a underrepresented result.

But you could argue that if anyone was going to show up under fears of virus, that it'd be Sanders people, so maybe not.

Just another case of 35 and under crowd being shit when it comes to turnout. I voted last Thursday and was the youngest person I saw at my polling place, and I'm fucking old.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie gonna get a TX, CA boost to pull within punching distance. From there, he just has to outperform Joe state by state in the upcoming weeks.
With the DNC, MSM and PACs all working tirelessly to stop him. It also hurts him that there’s no more debates between now and March 17...I think a head to head debate would do wonders for Bernie.

Only path I see for him is a huge Biden fuck up.

[Chinook]

its equally amazing how well biden did in states where he had virtually no campaign presence

Of all candidates who could pull that off, it'd've been him. Biden really doesn't have to do much to make his case. We all know who he is, and that's either good enough or it's not.

[vy65]

California is the last shoe to drop tonight. If comrade fails to win by any sizable amount, tonight will have been an unmitigated disaster

[Will Hunting]

I know but I'm just wondering whom the Goop readers et al might go for.
You mean the anti-vaxers? Probably casting a write in vote for a Ron Paul / Rand Paul ticket :lol

[Reck]

WTF there seems to be a massive depression in California. CNN just interviewed a guy who barely made it who said he'd vote for Bernie and he was calling his father so he could vote. Guy was told, polls have closed. lol

[vy65]

Just another case of 35 and under crowd being shit when it comes to turnout. I voted last Thursday and was the youngest person I saw at my polling place, and I'm fucking old.

Why Bernie will always be such a flawed candidate

[DarrinS]

With the DNC, MSM and PACs all working tirelessly to stop him. It also hurts him that there’s no more debates between now and March 17...I think a head to head debate would do wonders for Bernie.

Only path I see for him is a huge Biden fuck up.


Do you ever consider the possibility that Bernie hurts Bernie?

[baseline bum]

Bernie gonna get a TX, CA boost to pull within punching distance. From there, he just has to outperform Joe state by state in the upcoming weeks.

It's over. Sanders has no chance at a majority and no argument for the nomination if Biden doesn't get a majority since Biden won three battleground states tonight, one by an enormous margin, while Sanders only took one. Bernie's only real shot is a clean sweep of the four rust belt battleground states (Wisc, Mich, Ohio, Penn) with dominating wins since Biden almost certainly takes Florida comfortably.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean the anti-vaxers? Probably casting a write in vote for a Ron Paul / Rand Paul ticket :lol There's an odd subset that are left wingers. Smell their own farts crowd.

[baseline bum]

You mean the anti-vaxers? Probably casting a write in vote for a Ron Paul / Rand Paul ticket :lol

Anti-vaxxers seem to all be hard right or hard left. :lol

[Will Hunting]

Do you ever consider the possibility that Bernie hurts Bernie?
Read my posts on the previous page dick breath.

[Reck]

Is Bernie getting trolled at this point? They didn't call California for Bernie right off. Is it a sign he'll win it but not by a rout?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you ever consider the possibility that Bernie hurts Bernie?
Maybe he could've been, you know, a Democrat....

[Chinook]

Just another case of 35 and under crowd being shit when it comes to turnout. I voted last Thursday and was the youngest person I saw at my polling place, and I'm fucking old.

I actually voted at a neighborhood rec center and was pleasantly surprised to see so many millennials. This wasn't a place where there are a ton of young folks like a campus, so it implied that a lot of kids and young homeowners took the time. Maybe Austin democrats are hungrier than the rest of the country on average.

[baseline bum]

Why Bernie will always be such a flawed candidate

Oh well they can keep getting fucked by student loans and stagnant wages, serves them right since they don't seem to give a shit.

[Reck]

Is Bernie getting trolled at this point? They didn't call California for Bernie right off. Is it a sign he'll win it but not by a rout?

Nevermind, AP called it immediately.

[Will Hunting]

There's an odd subset that are left wingers. Smell their own farts crowd.
Maybe that Marianne Williamson chick then :lol

[Pelicans78]

Bernie wins California.

[DarrinS]

The South Carolina spear chuckers who voted for Biden aren’t any smarter.


Read my posts on the previous page dick breath.

So, no?

[Will Hunting]

Oh well they can keep getting fucked by student loans and stagnant wages, serves them right since they don't seem to give a shit.
Yeah that’s kinda my feeling as well at this point. I’m a millennial but no debt and contributed the max to Sanders so just fine financially. If the ones with six figures of student loan debt and a job at Starbucks can’t bother to vote in midterms or primaries then why the fuck should I care about them.

[Nathan89]

Bernie wins California.

I guess antifa came out to vote.

[DMX7]

Warren has to get out now. 3rd place in her own state.

[Will Hunting]

So, no?
A few posts below that retard:

I think he could have done more to combat the fear of the unknown. I never heard him make the “We nominated a moderate 4 years ago and she lost” argument even when it was begging to be made.

Still think it’s a massive fuck up to pick someone like Biden who’s an effective fuck you to the Bernie voters. Wouldn’t even need someone like Warren to appease the Bros imo, instead the DNC picked a guy who’s widely known for being a moderate.

[Reck]

Bernie wins California.

Bernie got saved. Probably goes down as a wash tonight. But he's going to come out really hurt after tonight. He lost in too many key states.

[Nathan89]

Oh well they can keep getting fucked by student loans and stagnant wages, serves them right since they don't seem to give a shit.

People can choose not to go to college to get degrees that are not in demand.

[Reck]

Biden withing 2 points of Sanders in Tex.

[Spurtacular]

With the DNC, MSM and PACs all working tirelessly to stop him. It also hurts him that there’s no more debates between now and March 17...I think a head to head debate would do wonders for Bernie.

Only path I see for him is a huge Biden fuck up.

Commie Cuck will have to be a cut or two above; but Creepy Joe looks so pitiful so often. So, we'll see.

[baseline bum]

Yeah that’s kinda my feeling as well at this point. I’m a millennial but no debt and contributed the max to Sanders so just fine financially. If the ones with six figures of student loan debt and a job at Starbucks can’t bother to vote in midterms or primaries then why the fuck should I care about them.

Yeah honestly I don't give two fucks about their student loans and wages if they don't. But I do want universal healthcare so in 10-15 years when I'll really need the healthcare system I won't be fighting with insurance companies constantly like I had been every time my parents would get something done until they turned 65 and got on Medicare A + B + G where there are no surprise bills any more.

[Nathan89]

I'd love to see leftist whites turn on blacks.

[Spurtacular]

Watching MSNBC. So, this is where you guys are getting the idea that Bloomberg gives a fuck about Biden beating Trump. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Biden withing 2 points of Sanders in Tex.

Thrill up the leg time?

[spurraider21]

Warren has to get out now. 3rd place in her own state.
:lmao "now"

the damage has been done. if she drops out tomorrow if would be cheeky as fuck. hey sorry i sabotaged super tuesday, k thanks byeee

[Will Hunting]

Yeah honestly I don't give two fucks about their student loans and wages if they don't. But I do want universal healthcare so in 10-15 years when I'll really need the healthcare system I won't be fighting with insurance companies constantly like I had been every time my parents would get something done until they turned 65 and got on Medicare A + B + G where there are no surprise bills any more.
Maybe naive but I think we’ll have benchmark changes to healthcare in the next 15 years with or without a candidate like Sanders. After Biden loses to Trump I think the DNCs Dem candidate In 2024 is going to be a progressive who’s not for shit like student loan forgiveness but is for expanded Medicare and a real public option.

[spurraider21]

I'd love to see leftist whites turn on blacks.
oh look nathan fantasizing about race war

[florige]

Bernie got saved. Probably goes down as a wash tonight. But he's going to come out really hurt after tonight. He lost in too many key states.


Those endorsements probably didn’t hurt Biden either. Sanders got blindsided yesterday after SC.

[Will Hunting]

I'd love to see leftist whites turn on blacks.
Blacks have turned on themselves by listening to uncle toms like Jim Clyburn.

[Blake]

I'd love to see leftist whites turn on blacks.

You mean like the way righty whites do? I don't get your desire here.

[DMX7]

Biden is going to win Texas. WOW. :wow

[DarrinS]

Blacks have turned on themselves by listening to uncle toms like Jim Clyburn.

There it is

[ElNono]

voting today felt quite eerie... i'm used to the packed, line-filled stations in LA. there were about 4-5 people at my polling place here in charlottesville

and was surprised to learn the virginia primary requires voter ID

tbh, we had Soros voting practice today... voted in Cali, Texas, Massachusetts and Iowa.

[vy65]

Biden is going to win Texas. WOW. :wow

Within 1.9% now. If Biden wins, that’s really bad for comrade.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao if the Republican nominee sounded half as retarded as Biden Democrats would be shitting all over him.

Yup. Chumpettes are very shameless narrative driven. Always have been.

[baseline bum]

Maybe naive but I think we’ll have benchmark changes to healthcare in the next 15 years with or without a candidate like Sanders. After Biden loses to Trump I think the DNCs Dem candidate In 2024 is going to be a progressive who’s not for shit like student loan forgiveness but is for expanded Medicare and a real public option.

I don't see it. Sanders was the one chance to remake the Democratic party the same way Trump has done the GOP. I see the next 15 years as the GOP taking the working class that was once the Democrats' base. Makes me think of this passage from a Bill Simmons article:



https://grantland.com/features/simmons-oklahoma-city-thunder-nba-championship/

There’s a poignant moment in Jonathan Abrams’s oral history about the 2002 Kings, right after the section covering their gut-wrenching Game 7 defeat, when a Sacramento employee named Devin Blankenship remembers his coworkers consoling one another. They were saying all the right things about losing to the Lakers. It’s just the beginning. This is the start of something bigger. You can’t win the big one until you lose a few tough ones. Their boss overheard and went the other way, wondering aloud, What if that was it? What if that was our shot?

[baseline bum]

Within 1.9% now. If Biden wins, that’s really bad for comrade.

It doesn't really matter now honestly. Bernie trying to say I edged Biden out in Texas at the convention isn't going to mean shit since the state is ruby red. And it shouldn't mean shit.

[Reck]

Bernie's Texas lead is gone. Down to 1.4%

[Trainwreck2100]

Wasserman calling Texas for Biden, Sanders is done

[Millennial_Messiah]

Maybe naive but I think we’ll have benchmark changes to healthcare in the next 15 years with or without a candidate like Sanders. After Biden loses to Trump I think the DNCs Dem candidate In 2024 is going to be a progressive who’s not for shit like student loan forgiveness but is for expanded Medicare and a real public option.

like who?

I do think the democrat wins the white house in 2024... but who? seriously, who?

[ElNono]

Biden: Vote for a senile old man
Bernie: Vote for a walking corpse waiting for his second and last heart attack

Just being fair here.

You're completely fair. How did it get to this though?

[Millennial_Messiah]

It doesn't really matter now honestly. Bernie trying to say I edged Biden out in Texas at the convention isn't going to mean shit since the state is ruby red. And it shouldn't mean shit.

Texas is hot pink, not ruby red

[Will Hunting]

I don't see it. Sanders was the one chance to remake the Democratic party the same way Trump has done the GOP. I see the next 15 years as the GOP taking the working class that was once the Democrats' base. Makes me think of this passage from a Bill Simmons article:
If Biden wins in 2020 sure, but if Biden loses the progressive wing is going to be screaming louder than ever about how the party needs to stop what it’s doing.

I think the real opportunity might come in 4 years. Another Trump term means we’ll have another recession imo and 2024 might be another 2008. If they fuck it up then I’ll agree it’s never happening.

[DarrinS]

The DNC needs to be decimated before we see actual change in this country. I might vote Trump just as a fuck you to their bullshit. Should have been obvious after last time but I’m done with the Democratic Party now.

Socialism or bust!

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1235024139351539713?s=20

[Will Hunting]

The DNC needs to be decimated before we see actual change in this country. I might vote Trump just as a fuck you to their bullshit. Should have been obvious after last time but I’m done with the Democratic Party now.
RBJ’s SCOTUS seat is the only reason I don’t. Beyond that I don’t see much harm in another 4 years of Trump beyond what he’s already done, plus Trump in office is good for midterms.

[Trainwreck2100]

You're completely fair. How did it get to this though?

Dems just needed to take the easy W, with a straight white younger guy, but they went with women, fossils, and a gay.

[Will Hunting]

i can’t wait for you to find out your daughter’s getting plowed by black dudes every weekend in college.
:lmao

[Reck]

You're completely fair. How did it get to this though?

I was just trolling...like you.

The guys you decided to skip were being ultra racists toward certain voters and candidates. Sorry about Bernie, son. You and BB are still my go to techys. :tu

[DarrinS]

i can’t wait for you to find out your daughter’s getting plowed by black dudes every weekend in college.

Bernie bros melting down. :lmao

[Will Hunting]

You're completely fair. How did it get to this though?
The DNC is way too obsessed with helping people when it’s their “turn”. They did it with Hillary and now Biden. Sherrod Brown was the common sense compromise candidate between both party wings and the DNC should have been egging him on to enter the race.

[vy65]

i can’t wait for you to find out your daughter’s getting plowed by black dudes every weekend in college.

Shaqdunkondudley.gif

[spurraider21]

I might vote Trump just as a fuck you to their bullshit


Trump winning guarantees a red Supreme Court for the majority of our lifetimes.
fucked and unfuckable

[Reck]

Biden in a virtual tie in Texas now.

[Will Hunting]

ShaqdunkonDarrinS’sdaughter.gif
Fify :lol

[DarrinS]

Not as bad as you will when Katie brings DeAndre home for Thanksgiving.


Bernie bros melting down. :lmao

[ducks]

Houston will be key in Texas

[spurraider21]

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) I live in Texas so my vote doesn’t matter anyways.
good point tbh

[vy65]

Fify :lol

:lol

[Will Hunting]

Dems just needed to take the easy W, with a straight white younger guy, but they went with women, fossils, and a gay.
Most of the younger white guys in the party suck. Seth Moulton for example of a retard. Neither party has a great pipeline of future presidential candidates, Republicans just struck gold wirh Trump.

[Trainwreck2100]

g'damn bloomberg fucking sanders in Cali

[Spurs Homer]

Biden in a virtual tie in Texas now.


still 27k votes ahead

[spurraider21]

Most of the younger white guys in the party suck. Seth Moulton for example of a retard. Neither party has a great pipeline of future presidential candidates, Republicans just struck orange with Trump.
fify

[DarrinS]

g'damn bloomberg fucking sanders in Cali

Makes zero sense. If anything, he's taking Biden votes away.

[Reck]

still 27k votes ahead

According to the AP the lead is 6k and change.

Bloomberg is now fucking Bernie up in California.

[Will Hunting]

g'damn bloomberg fucking sanders in Cali
Most of those votes go to Biden if not for Bloomer so not really imo

[Trainwreck2100]

Most of the younger white guys in the party suck. Seth Moulton for example of a retard. Neither party has a great pipeline of voter presidential candidates, Republicans just struck gold wirh Trump.

Buttigeg was a nobody and he got a rocket up his ass cause he was gay. I think they could have found someone comparable.

[ducks]

Mini mike is above 15 percent in Texas that is big for sanders and Biden

[vy65]

Mono having darrin star in a very special episode from blacked.com

[Millennial_Messiah]

RBJ’s SCOTUS seat is the only reason I don’t. Beyond that I don’t see much harm in another 4 years of Trump beyond what he’s already done, plus Trump in office is good for midterms.

RBG is going to live to 128 years old. Meanwhile ironically Clarence Thomas will die of roundup poisoning and someone random like Alito will suddenly die too

[Chinook]

If Biden wins in 2020 sure, but if Biden loses the progressive wing is going to be screaming louder than ever about how the party needs to stop what it’s doing.

I'm just not sure that that matters. The democrats don't care about their progressive wing. It's just lip service they pay while they continue to trend toward being the GOP. I like Sanders -- I really do -- and I'll have no issue voting for him. But I wouldn't be doing so thinking anything is going to change. So long as the dems remain in the center, the debate is going to be solidly on the right. What makes that so bad is that the right side of the debate ignores health care, pretends global warming is a matter of person belief and that UBC is a completely random issue. We need to pull the debate back into the center where we can actually come up with comprehensive solutions. It's the left's job to normalize these topics, not to run away from them.

[Reck]

Makes zero sense. If anything, he's taking Biden votes away.

He's fucking Bernie more. Bloomberg is in the 20s and now Biden is also in the 17s. He might not get his 250-300 delegate sweep. He's gonna have to share looks like.

[Will Hunting]

Buttigeg was a nobody and he got a rocket up his ass cause he was gay. I think they could have found someone comparable.
Even if he wasn’t a fudge packer I don’t think Buttplug was a good candidate. They need to find a young guy with Obama’s charisma and Buttplug didn’t have it.

[DarrinS]

Mono having darrin star in a very special episode from blacked.com

If anyone got plowed tonight, it was your preferred candidate

But keep talking about my children

[ducks]

Lol warren fucking sanders in cal

[spurraider21]

I'm just not sure that that matters. The democrats don't care about their progressive wing. It's just lip service they pay while they continue to trend toward being the GOP. I like Sanders -- I really do -- and I'll have no issue voting for him. But I wouldn't be doing so thinking anything is going to change. So long as the dems remain in the center, the debate is going to be solidly on the right. What makes that so bad is that the right side of the debate ignores health care, pretends global warming is a matter of person belief and that UBC is a completely random issue. We need to pull the debate back into the center where we can actually come up with comprehensive solutions. It's the left's job to normalize these topics, not to run away from them.
whats ubc

[Millennial_Messiah]

g'damn bloomberg fucking sanders in Cali

just hoping warren stays under 15% there, if so she has no choice but to quit

[Will Hunting]

He's fucking Bernie more. Bloomberg is in the 20s and now Biden is also in the 17s. He might not get his 250-300 delegate sweep. He's gonna have to share looks like.
If that’s the case then he wasn’t going to get his sweep with or without Bloomer.

[Trainwreck2100]

Most of those votes go to Biden if not for Bloomer so not really imo

I'm speaking purely on how it's a proportional vote, Bernie was always going to win Cali but Bloomberg being viable is a loss for Sanders not just in cali but in every state he's 15% and viable.

[DarrinS]

He's fucking Bernie more. Bloomberg is in the 20s and now Biden is also in the 17s. He might not get his 250-300 delegate sweep. He's gonna have to share looks like.


Progressive voters aren't voting for Bloom.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Even if he wasn’t a fudge packer I don’t think Buttplug was a good candidate. They need to find a young guy with Obama’s charisma and Buttplug didn’t have it.

ilhan omar or rashida talib tbh?

[Chinook]

Even if he wasn’t a fudge packer I don’t think Buttplug was a good candidate. They need to find a young guy with Obama’s charisma and Buttplug didn’t have it.

But who does? Buttigieg was empty suit #3 that the DNC has tried out for Obama 2.0. It's like the GOP finding another Regan. It took them seven elections to get another generational guy. The dems will have to deal with base hits who don't have too much stink of them and let the new messiah come naturally.

[SnakeBoy]

This November America must make a choice...comb-over or plugs

[baseline bum]

If Biden wins in 2020 sure, but if Biden loses the progressive wing is going to be screaming louder than ever about how the party needs to stop what it’s doing.

I think the real opportunity might come in 4 years. Another Trump term means we’ll have another recession imo and 2024 might be another 2008. If they fuck it up then I’ll agree it’s never happening.

The progressive wing didn't fucking vote. Or they got conned by the electability argument. No reason they wouldn't be again. I can't think of a bigger middle finger to the Democratic establishment than 2016, but here were are again with them winning the chance to go do the same shit again in 2020. There is no Bernie Sanders for 2024.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/21/11/316AE65200000578-3456962-image-a-13_1456055471075.jpg

:lol bet you jack off 10 times a week to that fetish tbh, and you aren't even black

[Will Hunting]

Progressive voters aren't voting for Bloom.
Yeah it’s that simple. The issue for Sanders tonight isn’t about Warren or Bloomer stealing votes, it’s an issue of a lot more voters choosing a moderate candidate over a progressive one.

[Chinook]

whats ubc

Universal Basic Income. Essentially what Yang wanted to do. It's out-there as shit right now, and it doesn't make sense to implement it today. But it's gonna have to be seriously discussed in the near future, and it would help if we started figuring out how it could work now.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The progressive wing didn't fucking vote. Or they got conned by the electability argument. No reason they wouldn't be again. I can't think of a bigger middle finger to the Democratic establishment than 2016, but here were are again with them winning the chance to go do the same shit again in 2020. There is no Bernie Sanders for 2024.

Warren ross perot'd Bernie tonight tbh. she was Biden's best friend even though it's almost the end of the road for pocahontas tbh.

[vy65]

If anyone got plowed tonight, it was your preferred candidate

But keep talking about my children

Um, is that an invitation? If so, that’s really fucking weird and disturbing.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/98/3f/5b/983f5b35b13c20270cdd0b21ed4c006a.jpg

black guy with fat white chick with 4 kids and 3 baby daddies tbh

[ducks]

Sanders lead is getting a little bigger in texas

[Chinook]

The progressive wing didn't fucking vote. Or they got conned by the electability argument. No reason they wouldn't be again. I can't think of a bigger middle finger to the Democratic establishment than 2016, but here were are again with them winning the chance to go do the same shit again in 2020. There is no Bernie Sanders for 2024.

Yeah, that's the big problem. ALL of the notable candidates were really old, to the point that it's hard to imagine any running in 2024, let alone 2028. I see no future for the party right now. Empty suits like Pete and Beto will be okay for the establishment wing. But there isn't anyone to drive the debate now.

[ducks]

Can sanders keep in tell Arizona debate and take on joe Biden in debate

[Will Hunting]

Universal Basic Income. Essentially what Yang wanted to do. It's out-there as shit right now, and it doesn't make sense to implement it today. But it's gonna have to be seriously discussed in the near future, and it would help if we started figuring out how it could work now.
Yeah it’s an elephant in the room no one wants to touch. Over the next 25-30 years a huge chunk of corporate level desk jobs are going to get automated the same way manufacturing jobs over the last 40 years have been getting automated. Without something like UBI were going to have huge unemployment and massive poverty once that waive of automation happens.

[Millennial_Messiah]

But who does? Buttigieg was empty suit #3 that the DNC has tried out for Obama 2.0. It's like the GOP finding another Regan. It took them seven elections to get another generational guy. The dems will have to deal with base hits who don't have too much stink of them and let the new messiah come naturally.
Kaepernick will turn 35 in November 2023

[ducks]

Lebron James might run for democracts

[ChumpDumper]

It doesn't really matter now honestly. Bernie trying to say I edged Biden out in Texas at the convention isn't going to mean shit since the state is ruby red. And it shouldn't mean shit.

So we need an electoral college for primaries too?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah, that's the big problem. ALL of the notable candidates were really old, to the point that it's hard to imagine any running in 2024, let alone 2028. I see no future for the party right now. Empty suits like Pete and Beto will be okay for the establishment wing. But there isn't anyone to drive the debate now.

well bernie will only be 82

[spurraider21]

:lmao

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[Millennial_Messiah]

Lebron James might run for democracts
nah, because he won't win either Ohio or Florida tbh.

[DarrinS]

If anyone screwed Bernie tonight, it was Warren.

[Reck]

Biden on the verge on taking the lead in Tejas.

[ducks]

:lmao

1235062093650350084

Spank her

[ElNono]

I was just trolling...like you.

The guys you decided to skip were being ultra racists toward certain voters and candidates. Sorry about Bernie, son. You and BB are still my go to techys. :tu

Ehhh.. I'm not a Bernie fan, I thought he had a better chance than Old Joe to win the general, that's all.

[baseline bum]

So we need an electoral college for primaries too?

As long as there is an electoral college for the actual election yeah, Texas votes shouldn't mean much for nominating a Democrat to run for president in the case of a brokered convention. They should certainly mean a lot less than Virignia, North Carolina, Minnesota, Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania votes since they don't mean shit in the real election.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao

1235062093650350084

Texas is within 0.1

[AaronY]

:danceclub:danceclub:danceclub

[Trainwreck2100]

I think what happened, is that Bernie's path to victory was Trump's 2016, let the other candidates cannibalize each other until super tuesday and then take a big enough lead, nobody can catch up. Bernie's strength this entire time was that he consistently polled at 20-25%. With the exception of the deep south, he got around 20-25%, he never found a way to consistently expand his base.

[Millennial_Messiah]

check out RCP... back to virtual tie... Bernie lost double digit lead in a NY minute.

[spurraider21]

Universal Basic Income. Essentially what Yang wanted to do. It's out-there as shit right now, and it doesn't make sense to implement it today. But it's gonna have to be seriously discussed in the near future, and it would help if we started figuring out how it could work now.
got it. i was wondering if UBC was different from UBI

[Millennial_Messiah]

As long as there is an electoral college for the actual election yeah, Texas votes shouldn't mean much for nominating a Democrat to run for president in the case of a brokered convention. They should certainly mean a lot less than Virignia, North Carolina, Minnesota, Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania votes since they don't mean shit in the real election.
well at least we know Biden will win VA and PA against Trump. Not sure about the other states, but MN looks promising for Ol' Joe too.

[Chinook]

As long as there is an electoral college for the actual election yeah, Texas votes shouldn't mean much for nominating a Democrat to run for president in the case of a brokered convention. They should certainly mean a lot less than Virignia, North Carolina, Minnesota, Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania votes since they don't mean shit in the real election.

But where does the money come from? If Texas dems are huge financial contributors, they do deserve a legit voice, even if their actual votes don't count.

[spurraider21]

:danceclub:danceclub:danceclub
https://media0.giphy.com/media/xB1RqLGoBNh3W/giphy.gif