2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[DarrinS]

looks like Pocahondas is toast

good

retire and give your supporters to Bernie


Aren't they the same candidate, policy wise?

[SnakeBoy]

MSNBC reporting numbers as they come in, Fox not reporting any numbers at all....strange.

[baseline bum]

looks like Pocahondas is toast

good

retire and give your supporters to Bernie

Warren blowing the nomination is some fucking Harden level choking.

[Reck]

Warren blowing the nomination is some fucking Harden level choking.

I am shocked she's doing so poorly. This was supposed to be her one to win.

Check out this link. They seem to be ahead of every channel by at least 3 thousand votes.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/10/21131416/new-hampshire-primary-dixville-notch-millsfield-harts-location-midnight-vote

[SnakeBoy]

Steyer/Yang/Tulsi combining for more votes than Biden. Holy shit!

[Will Hunting]

Warren blowing the nomination is some fucking Harden level choking.
Fuck her for trying to benefit from the bullshit story about her and Bernie.

[Reck]

Tulsi getting a ton more votes here than in Iowa where she campaign the most.

That said, Tulsi, Steyer and Yang should drop out after tonight. Though they should call this a mini victory.

[spurraider21]

Fuck her for trying to benefit from the bullshit story about her and Bernie.
she started faltering when she released her medicare plan including a public option for now, and then i promise we'll come back to it and vote again in 3 years for M4A

[ChumpDumper]

Tulsi getting a ton more votes here than in Iowa where she campaign the most.Anyone undeclared for a party can vote.

[Reck]

Biden trails Warren by 900 votes for 4th.

lol

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/ce15d2407f21c0ae00888c0eadc2bc70.png

[Will Hunting]

Bernie up by 7% but Axelrod is trying to spin this as a loss for him and a win for Klobuchar because Sanders got more voters 4 years ago. The coverage of this election is a joke.

[baseline bum]

Fuck her for trying to benefit from the bullshit story about her and Bernie.

Fucking retard thinking she was going to get everyone to feel sorry for her there. Gotta love how that comes out and then that fucking cunt Hillary starts trashing Sanders as if she coordinated her hit with Warren.

[spurraider21]

Bernie up by 7% but Axelrod is trying to spin this as a loss for him and a win for Klobuchar because Sanders got more voters 4 years ago. The coverage of this election is a joke.
that was a 2-horse race :lol... this year there are multiple people polling nationally at 10+ percent

[hater]

RIP Yang

Tulsi should retire too and join Bernie :tu

[Will Hunting]

Yang suspending his campaign.

[Reck]

https://i.gyazo.com/ce15d2407f21c0ae00888c0eadc2bc70.png

Same thing from the source i'm following. Klobuchar seem to have level off and cannot keep up with the top 2.

https://i.imgur.com/DTlVddd.jpg

[Will Hunting]

that was a 2-horse race :lol... this year there are multiple people polling nationally at 10+ percent
I know it’s an intellectually dishonest and stupid “trend” to point out but CNN and MSNBC have been a broken record repeating it the last few days.

[spurraider21]

yang just dropped out

[Reck]

That said, Tulsi, Steyer and Yang should drop out after tonight. Though they should call this a mini victory.

1 of 3 then.

[spurraider21]

Same thing from the source i'm following. Klobuchar seem to have level off and cannot keep up with the top 2.

https://i.imgur.com/DTlVddd.jpg
where is that from? i'm following WaPo

klobuchar is closer to buttigieg than pete is to bernie...

[spurraider21]

.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Biden only getting 13% of the “electability” vote

[Reck]

where is that from? i'm following WaPo

klobuchar is closer to buttigieg than pete is to bernie...

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/10/21131416/new-hampshire-primary-dixville-notch-millsfield-harts-location-midnight-vote

They just added a new batch of votes.

[baseline bum]

I gotta turn on MSNBC to see Chris Matthews throw a fit

[boutons_deux]

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+hampshire+primary+results&oq=new&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i60l3j69i65l3.1113j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Biden, and probably Warren are finished.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/bradleyrsimpson/status/1227399364932444160?s=21

[hater]

Bernie obliterating nigas

[baseline bum]

:lmao Biden only getting 13% of the “electability” vote

AaronY rolling in his grave tonight.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteChiefDolphin-size_restricted.gif

[Reck]

There is only 24 Delegates in which Bernie will have to share the load...again.

:lol Democrats

[baseline bum]

Gotta say I'm disappointed to see Klobuchar doing so well, but expected after the way CNN and MSNBC have been pimping her tired ass.

[hater]

Yang Gang joining Bernie Bros :tu

[Reck]

Not even the hardcore moderates wants Biden. :lol 12%

Sanders has more moderates than he does, :lmao

[Will Hunting]

:lmao this exit polling is hilarious for Biden

:lmao Sanders beating Biden among moderates

[Will Hunting]

Not even the hardcore moderates wants Biden. :lol 12%

Sanders has more moderates than he does, :lmao
:lol you beat me to it

[spurraider21]

warren is giving a really weird speech, it almost has the tones of a concession, and she keeps pimping amy klobuchar. i was expecting an endorsement and dropout by the tone, but then she said to donate to elizabethwarren.com

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1227401926427496450

[Will Hunting]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1227401926427496450
New Hampshire Republicans love Trump. This isn’t news.

[Reck]

Michael (Who the fuck is that?) Bennet dropping out.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie doing better among self identified independents (28%) than he is among Democrats (26%).

The electability argument is pure unadulterated bullshit.

[Spurminator]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1227401926427496450

:cheer: Dear Leader

[Reck]

Bernie doing better among self identified independents (28%) than he is among Democrats (26%).

The electability argument is pure unadulterated bullshit.

Of course its bullshit.

The only reasoning I keep reading is that Trump will just call him a socialist and that will just do him in. It might initially but that stuff wears thin as you go further in. It's like Trump calling Hillary crooked. It worked at the beginning but the overall theme was she was just an extremely shitty candidate. Nothing to do with label.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie doing better among self identified independents (28%) than he is among Democrats (26%).

The electability argument is pure unadulterated bullshit.
Just to pile on, Sanders winning 35% of the white non college educated men, 15% ahead of the next best candidate.

Yet another demographic people constantly say Sanders would lose at.

[spurraider21]

1227404583653298176

wow

[Thread]

Of course its bullshit.

The only reasoning I keep reading is that Trump will just call him a socialist and that will just do him in. It might initially but that stuff wears thin as you go further in. It's like Trump calling Hillary crooked. It worked at the beginning but the overall theme was she was just an extremely shitty candidate. Nothing to do with label.

But, Hillary denied being crooked. Sanders calls himself a socialist.

[Reck]

:cheer: Dear Leader

Are you surprised? Guy has Trump as his avatar.

[hater]

Tulsi not dropping out :tu

ma niga :tu

[Will Hunting]

Tulsi not dropping out :tu

ma niga :tu
Id want her to drop out at this point since most of her votes would to go Bernie.

[baseline bum]

Id want her to drop out at this point since most of her votes would to go Bernie.

You think so now? I would have figured her progressive base has already defected to Bernie after her stinking of establishment influence "Bernie is sexist" act.

Also, starting to get a bit nervous that Bernie's lead has shrunk from nearly 5 points to 3.5 now with ~50% reporting.

EDIT: Fuck me, I thought you were saying Warren's votes, not Gabbards

[Will Hunting]

You think so now? I would have figured her progressive base has already defected to Bernie after her stinking of establishment influence "Bernie is sexist" act.

Also, starting to get a bit nervous that Bernie's lead has shrunk from nearly 5 points to 3.5 now with ~50% reporting.

EDIT: Fuck me, I thought you were saying Warren's votes, not Gabbards
Bernie’s lead is back up to 4.3% on CNN. Hanover should also give him a big pop when it reports.

[hater]

:lmao poor bastard Biden fans on his NH post election party :lmao

he stood them up and

now they look like inmates :lmao

[baseline bum]

Bernie’s lead is back up to 4.3% on CNN. Hanover should also give him a big pop when it reports.

He's a 3.38 points on Vox right now with 53% in

[baseline bum]

Bernie’s lead is back up to 4.3% on CNN. Hanover should also give him a big pop when it reports.

Also, is CNN hyping the fuck out of Klobuchar right now like they always do after debates? :lol

[Reck]

Between Steyer, Tulsi and Yang they combine for 8%. That's a lot up for grab votes that have been wasted.

[Will Hunting]

Also, is CNN hyping the fuck out of Klobuchar right now like they always do after debates? :lol
Big time.

[Reck]

:lmao poor bastard Biden fans on his NH post election party :lmao

he stood them up and

now they look like inmates :lmao

Obviously they're getting paid to be there.

:lol Getting abandoned by their guy.
:lol Running to South Carolina to beg for the black vote

[spurraider21]

i dont think these numbers bode well for sanders, despite him winning.

he's not up by that much, and amy/pete are collectively gathering a huge amount of votes. as people drop, which candidate's voters are going to defect to bernie?

[hater]

i dont think these numbers bode well for sanders, despite him winning.

he's not up by that much, and amy/pete are collectively gathering a huge amount of votes. as people drop, which candidate's voters are going to defect to bernie?

warren, yang, gabbard

thats tons

Bernie is doing fine. :tu

you cannot compare his #s from 2016 as his only opponent was the worst presidential candidate in decades :lmao

[Will Hunting]

i dont think these numbers bode well for sanders, despite him winning.

he's not up by that much, and amy/pete are collectively gathering a huge amount of votes. as people drop, which candidate's voters are going to defect to bernie?
I think if these were the demographics in every state he’d be fucked over time as people drop out. He’d also be fucked if every state let independents vote in the primary.

Call me racist all you want but black voters clearly go by name recognition over everything else. He should be able to pick up a lot of those votes when Biden drops out.

[Will Hunting]

Agreed though this isn’t some big crushing victory for him.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao the black pandering Biden is doing in South Carolina right now

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Jesus Christ Biden is losing his shit...he literally just said “we praise Nevada for its diversity”

[Reck]

i dont think these numbers bode well for sanders, despite him winning.

he's not up by that much, and amy/pete are collectively gathering a huge amount of votes. as people drop, which candidate's voters are going to defect to bernie?

True.

I also worry that despite Bernie having a good shot at beating Trump, that doesn't necessarily mean they'll do well in the senate. Moderates seem to do better in getting out the vote en masse. 2018 is a great example of that.

[baseline bum]

True.

I also worry that despite Bernie having a good shot at beating Trump, that doesn't necessarily mean they'll do well in the senate. Moderates seem to do better in getting out the vote en masse. 2018 is a great example of that.

How about 2016?

[spurraider21]

True.

I also worry that despite Bernie having a good shot at beating Trump, that doesn't necessarily mean they'll do well in the senate. Moderates seem to do better in getting out the vote en masse. 2018 is a great example of that.
midterms are a different ballgame, though

look how well moderates did in 2016

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227417402167742466

:rollin

[spurraider21]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227417402167742466

:rollin
like i said, from hearing her speak, it really really sounded like a concession and she sounded ready to endorse klobuchar

[hater]

:lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1227414428968112128?s=21

[boutons_deux]

Trash is petty, classless, dickless, fraudulent hair/skin/wealth/brain PIECE of SHIT

[Reck]

Buttigieg within 4k votes. Bernie will win but it's gonna be with less than 30%.

[Thread]

Trash is petty, classless, dickless, fraudulent hair/skin/wealth/brain PIECE of SHIT

He stomps a fine mud hole though.

[baseline bum]

Buttigieg within 4k votes. Bernie will win but it's gonna be with less than 30%.

Only a 2.4 point lead now with 2/3 reporting

[spurraider21]

in a night where warren is polling at 9%, sanders still isn't cracking 30. it's becoming abundantly clear that the current logic of "warren's voters are more progressive, they'll go to bernie" isn't such a slam dunk.

[baseline bum]

in a night where warren is polling at 9%, sanders still isn't cracking 30. it's becoming abundantly clear that the current logic of "warren's voters are more progressive, they'll go to bernie" isn't such a slam dunk.

I would bet Warren lost her progressive voters to Bernie already. Now probably all she has left is Hillary Clinton loyalists who will run to Klobuchar.

[spurraider21]

:lmao amy bragging about appealing to republicans. yeah says great things about your platform

[Reck]

fucking Klobuchar needs new talking points.

It's always the same shit with this bitch.

[Will Hunting]

Only a 2.4 point lead now with 2/3 reporting
Link to where you’re getting results? You’re way ahead of me :lol

[baseline bum]

:lmao amy bragging about appealing to republicans. yeah says great things about your platform

Get in here SnakeBoy

[baseline bum]

Link to where you’re getting results? You’re way ahead of me :lol

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/10/21131416/new-hampshire-primary-dixville-notch-millsfield-harts-location-midnight-vote

[Thread]

fucking Klobuchar needs new talking points.

It's always the same shit with this bitch.

& her voice is always cracking like she's about to cry.

[Will Hunting]

in a night where warren is polling at 9%, sanders still isn't cracking 30. it's becoming abundantly clear that the current logic of "warren's voters are more progressive, they'll go to bernie" isn't such a slam dunk.
It’s pretty clear her supporters are the “we need a woman!” Suburban housewife types who will flip to Crazy Amy once Warren drops out.

[baseline bum]

Damn Bernie barely above a 2 point lead now with 68% reporting. Not sure he's walking away with this one tonight.

[hater]

:lmao

WTF hes speaking from a garage in SC :lmao

https://twitter.com/fuzzydunlop235/status/1227421155121881093?s=21

[Will Hunting]

Klobuchar is one god awful public speaker

[Reck]

& her voice is always cracking like she's about to cry.

Or have a good old American stroke out.

[spurraider21]

Klobuchar is one god awful public speaker
her nomination would be the republicans' wet dream because she'd get annihilated in the general election, even with snakeboy's support

[Reck]

lol here we go with the i won everywhere i go. whore

[baseline bum]

Don't politicians normally know the names of the people they tell personal stories of in these speeches?

[Reck]

:lmao CNN cut the bitch off after they noticed she started repeating her script.

[baseline bum]

Loving this victory speech for coming in 3rd. I definitely think Kloby can finish top 3 if she gets the nomination.

[Will Hunting]

Klobuchar’s raspy voiced “WHO DOES THAT?!” sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

[spurraider21]

lead less than 2 points

[baseline bum]

Oh fuck off DNC trying to always bring up FDR when Sanders is the only one who actually has any interest in implementing FDR's policies.

[baseline bum]

Fuck you Klobuchar pretending to continue FDR's legacy as a fucking bland centrist.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1227423842659753984?s=19

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1227423842659753984?s=19

No shit, I would too if I was our Dear Leader. Bloomberg isn't going to excite anyone in the Democratic base and he's not going to get any crossover votes because the GOP support for Trump is rock solid.

[Nathan89]

Remember when Dems brainwashed their voters into thinking Trump was scared of Biden?

[spurraider21]

Remember when Dems brainwashed their voters into thinking Trump was scared of Biden?
nah. remember when conservative insisted that biden had the best chance of beating trump? lol

[SnakeBoy]

Get in here SnakeBoy

Sorry I was watching MSNBC. I didn't know Amy is the daughter of an alcoholic, she's always been a fighter, she had a plan from the beginning and executed it brilliantly, she's a proven winner.

She's got my vote fo sho

AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY!

[Will Hunting]

Sorry I was watching MSNBC. I didn't know Amy is the daughter of an alcoholic, she's always been a fighter, she had a plan from the beginning and executed it brilliantly, she's a proven winner.

She's got my vote fo sho

AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY! AMY!
:lol

[Will Hunting]

Remember when Dems brainwashed their voters into thinking Trump was scared of Biden?
I can’t say I do seeing that he’s currently getting less than 10% of the vote in New Hampshire.

Do you think your boy Bernie pulls it out?

[Nathan89]

nah. remember when conservative insisted that biden had the best chance of beating trump? lol

Not sure how you don't remember their narrative which they still push.

[Thread]

Remember when Dems brainwashed their voters into thinking Trump was scared of Biden?

Hell, Nathan, they had me scared.

[Nathan89]

I can’t say I do seeing that he’s currently getting less than 10% of the vote in New Hampshire.

Do you think your boy Bernie pulls it out?

His vote percentage is irrelevant to the narrative that Dems have pushed.

[Reck]

nah. remember when conservative insisted that biden had the best chance of beating trump? lol

Remember when Trump demanded Ukraine to open an investigation into Biden out of fear which in term ended up getting him impeached?

:lol Nathan
:lol Bernie to Trumper

[Spurminator]

Remember when Dems brainwashed their voters into thinking Trump was scared of Biden?

Trump committed an impeachable offense because he was scared of Biden. :lol. What an idiot.

[Thread]

Trump committed an impeachable offense because he was scared of Biden. :lol. What an idiot.

Only Nixon being scared of McGovern beats it.

[Nathan89]

Remember when Trump demanded Ukraine to open an investigation into Biden out of fear which in term ended up getting him impeached?

:lol Nathan
:lol Bernie to Trumper

That's the narrative. Thanks for bringing it up.

[Reck]

Bernie pulling away a little now. Up 5k from 4.

[SnakeBoy]

Fuck you Klobuchar pretending to continue FDR's legacy as a fucking bland centrist.

Don't you be dissin my girl!

She's overcome too much in life :cry

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/736c215da77dcfc09f1359494718582f.png

[SnakeBoy]

https://i.gyazo.com/736c215da77dcfc09f1359494718582f.png

lol that drawing

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JN5Ep8Ym6_U/Tk70XFAdzEI/AAAAAAAANbI/KCaDlKAsgnA/s1600/SNL+Rachel+Dratch+as+Debbie+Downer.png

[Will Hunting]

Don't you be dissin my girl!

She's overcome too much in life :cry
:lol this shtick is pretty funny tbh

[Reck]

https://i.gyazo.com/736c215da77dcfc09f1359494718582f.png

Is gonna be hard shedding that corporatist backed candidate label for Pete. Bernie is gonna hammer that message hard going forward.

[hater]

:lol ppl voting for pete guaido

[Reck]

Less than 2 percent now. Wow Buttiegieg might do this.

[Reck]

ugh this is what is gonna sink Pete. Keep your homo off the stage and please no kissing on live tv..

[hater]

ugh this is what is gonna sink Pete. Keep your homo off the stage and please no kissing on live tv..

:lmao did he do that?

hes getting obiterated in the Dirty South :lmao

[Will Hunting]

ugh this is what is gonna sink Pete. Keep your homo off the stage and please no kissing on live tv..
There’s something about his grin that’s really irritating...he reminds me of a cartoon character I can’t remember off the top of my head

[TimDunkem]

There’s something about his grin that’s really irritating...he reminds me of a cartoon character I can’t remember off the top of my head

Bugs Bunny? Spongebob? Timmy Turner?

[spurraider21]

Bugs Bunny? Spongebob? Timmy Turner?
he looks like brad stevens

[TimDunkem]

he looks like brad stevens

:lol The only difference is Brad likes black people.

[Reck]

Vox has called the race for Bernie.

[Will Hunting]

:lol The only difference is Brad likes black people.
:lmao

[Reck]

On the one hand, I like Bernie as a person and think he's a great guy but in the other, his supporters are just so cultish is kind of creepy.

[ducks]

With approximately, 70% of precincts reporting, President Trump has surpassed the New Hampshire Primary vote total of every incumbent President running for re-election over the last four decades.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1227443254720974850?s=20

[ducks]

Trump committed an impeachable offense because he was scared of Biden. :lol. What an idiot.

Dem will pay more for doing impeachment the most idiotic
Trump know what he was doing

[hater]

ma niga :tu

https://twitter.com/bookies/status/1227445248554610688?s=20

[Reck]

It'll be interesting to see the results next week.

That race should dispatch another 3 or 4 more candidates. Pete and Klobuchar will test their durability then as well.

[benefactor]

Dem will pay more for doing impeachment the most idiotic
Almost as idiotic as posting a video on your own twitter account that mocks you

[florige]

On the one hand, I like Bernie as a person and think he's a great guy but in the other, his supporters are just so cultish is kind of creepy.

Well so are Trump’s. I think that’s why Bernie winning this nomination is so critical. Bernie has I think about as numbers wise eye for eye on Trump for die hard crazies.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/JavelinJamz/status/1227446891694219265?s=20

[Spurs Homer]

Bernie gonna be attacked by the liberal media even more now


cue the bloomberg dick-riding to try and screw bernie

[baseline bum]

Sounds like this NH primary could have higher turnout than the 2008 NH primary did.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Buttplug ends up with as many delegates as Sanders even though Sanders won the popular vote

How the fuck has Sanders won the popular vote in both states but still has less than 2 delegates than Buttplug? This country’s political process is so fucked up.

[Reck]

There is only 24 Delegates in which Bernie will have to share the load...again.

:lol Democrats

Bernie won but not really. Pete and him will have same amount of delegates.

[Spurs Homer]

:lmao Buttplug ends up with as many delegates as Sanders even though Sanders won the popular vote

How the fuck has Sanders won the popular vote in both states but still has less than 2 delegates than Buttplug? This country’s political process is so fucked up.


its a long race

mayor pete - will find out what the south bigots really think of him and his husband

id rather pete not be served on a platter to the nazi in chief

[Pelicans78]

:lmao Buttplug ends up with as many delegates as Sanders even though Sanders won the popular vote

How the fuck has Sanders won the popular vote in both states but still has less than 2 delegates than Buttplug? This country’s political process is so fucked up.

As long as Klobuchar is in the race, Bernie will benefit since she’s taking votes away from Buttigieg. Pocahontas needs to drop out at this point. She finished 4th in a New England primary and is only going to get worse from here on out while she’s the only one taking votes away from Biden.

[pgardn]

:lmao Buttplug ends up with as many delegates as Sanders even though Sanders won the popular vote

How the fuck has Sanders won the popular vote in both states but still has less than 2 delegates than Buttplug? This country’s political process is so fucked up.

do you have a link to this because I’m confused
I have not been keeping up

[Reck]

do you have a link to this because I’m confused
I have not been keeping up

24 Delegates up for grabs. 9 for Pete, 9 for Bernie and 6 for Klobuchar.

[Will Hunting]

As long as Klobuchar is in the race, Bernie will benefit since she’s taking votes away from Buttigieg. Pocahontas needs to drop out at this point. She finished 4th in a New England primary and is only going to get worse from here on out because she’s the only one taking votes away from Biden.
I think all the Warren progressives have already defected over to Sanders and if they haven’t they definitely will now.

Sanders needs a bit of a perfect storm at least through Super Tuesday in order to win though, this was not a great night for him and the turnout should be a major red flag.

[Spurminator]

:lmao Buttplug ends up with as many delegates as Sanders even though Sanders won the popular vote

How the fuck has Sanders won the popular vote in both states but still has less than 2 delegates than Buttplug? This country’s political process is so fucked up.

Yes and the fucked-upedness starts with letting Iowa and New Hampshire determine viability of candidates.

[Pelicans78]

I think all the Warren progressives have already defected over to Sanders and if they haven’t they definitely will now.

Sanders needs a bit of a perfect storm at least through Super Tuesday in order to win though, this was not a great night for him and the turnout should be a major red flag.

Yeah looking at the numbers, it looks like there were a lot more moderates voting than progressives, plus this was mostly a white state so you’re right about not being a great night for Bernie. He’s gonna be in the top 2, but he needs to expand his base in the party or he’s not gonna win. The only question is which moderate will be his biggest competitor.

[Will Hunting]

Yes and the fucked-upedness starts with letting Iowa and New Hampshire determine viability of candidates.
Agreed 100% except in this instance I’m happy that these states were able to sink Biden’s campaign before he ever got the chance to rely on brain dead “OH LAWDY!” Southern black voters.

[TimDunkem]

Minorities are more likely to vote for Bernie. He'll be the clear frontrunner after he wins Nevada and SC with their vote. The only fear is fear is not getting all of them out to vote.

[Thread]

Bernie gonna be attacked by the liberal media even more now


cue the bloomberg dick-riding to try and screw bernie

I don't think so, Homer. They're just going to have to get in bed with him like it OR not.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah looking at the numbers, it looks like there were a lot more moderates voting than progressives, plus this was mostly a white state so you’re right about not being a great night for Bernie. He’s gonna be in the top 2, but he needs to expand his base in the party or he’s not gonna win. The only question is which moderate will be his biggest competitor.
I think if he got his coalition of fiercely loyal supporters from 25-30% of the primary electorate to 35-40% he could replicate what Trump did in 2016 but I’m not sure what the path is. The fact that blacks are supporting stop and frisk Bloomberg more than they’re supporting him amazes me but he appears to be winning Hispanics.

[benefactor]

I don't think so, Homer. They're just going to have to get in bed with him like it OR not.
Dale

[DarrinS]

Let it be Sanders!

[baseline bum]

Agreed 100% except in this instance I’m happy that these states were able to sink Biden’s campaign before he ever got the chance to rely on brain dead “OH LAWDY!” Southern black voters.

DNC shouldn't even consider the southern vote outside of Florida since it's useless in the general election.

[baseline bum]

Let it be Sanders!

Yeah they should go with Biden since he'll be strongest in ruby red states like South Carolina where the Democrats have no chance of winning in a general election.

[Will Hunting]

DNC shouldn't even consider the southern vote outside of Florida since it's useless in the general election.
They really should stage the voting order based off of which states are most/least important.

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1227451624970444801?s=21

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think if he got his coalition of fiercely loyal supporters from 25-30% of the primary electorate to 35-40% he could replicate what Trump did in 2016 but I’m not sure what the path is. The fact that blacks are supporting stop and frisk Bloomberg more than they’re supporting him amazes me but he appears to be winning Hispanics.

Warren's votes are slowly but surely gravitating to Bernie. If and when Warren suspends, Bernie will be at or near 40 percent.

[SnakeBoy]

Let it be Sanders!

Nah, let Sanders get shit on at a brokered convention.

I'd like to think Sanders can't possibly win but I thought the same about Trump. Sanders crowds and enthusiasm are every bit as real as Trump's were so I don't discount that.

2008 GOP thought we can only hope they pick a black guy named Hussein
2016 Dems thought we can only hope it's Trump

[Millennial_Messiah]

They really should stage the voting order based off of which states are most/least important.

yeah, Biden winning the nomination because of him winning foregone-conclusion states like CA, NY, and the right wing South outside of Florida, is falling into a similar trap as what happened with Hillary despite Bernie taking most of the rust belt states, etc.

Plus the stupid superdelegates crap which is anti constitutional and certainly doesn't have a matter in the general election.

[Spurminator]

Ignore the source but if they actually said this it's kind of funny

1227396804062466054

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1227440624586149892?s=21

[Reck]

Ignore the source but if they actually said this it's kind of funny

1227396804062466054

:lol stupid fucks.

Probably meant that the centrist moderates made up 45+ percent of the vote while Bernie just had over 25. Even if you give him Warren's he's 8-9 points off the combined moderate votes.

[hater]

:lmao Billionaires taking time off counting their money and melting down on twitter only to get demolished :lol

https://twitter.com/genericdogavi/status/1227456707992915969?s=21


https://twitter.com/_steve_bennett/status/1227462161083006976?s=21

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol stupid fuck.

Probably meant that the centrist moderates made up 45+ percent of the vote while Bernie just had over 25. Even if you give him Warren's he's 8-9 points off the combined moderate votes.

Yep the moderates are canabalizing each other. And Warren couldn't and will never take any of Bernie's votes

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1227451624970444801?s=21

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6d_YKFO_20

[SnakeBoy]

Man I should be sleeping but instead I put it on MSNBC and actually listened to Buttplug give his speech. Literally the first time I've actually listened to him. I'm kind of shocked how incredibly fake and orchestrated his crowd was. On cue chanting Mayor Pete then all stopping on cue then on cue "Butt Edge Edge" then on cue "President Pete". Only thing more phony was his rehearsed gestures.

Can't believe he's doing as well as he has.

[Ball Buster]

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6d_YKFO_20

I’ve seen those videos, and yes the mainstream media is always a shit show. Everybody knows this.

I’m just posting what Bernie’s posting, he’s been making a lot of ominous tweets like this towards the president.

I think he’s going to do it. I think he’ll at least win the popular vote.

[spurraider21]

Man I should be sleeping but instead I put it on MSNBC and actually listened to Buttplug give his speech. Literally the first time I've actually listened to him. I'm kind of shocked how incredibly fake and orchestrated his crowd was. On cue chanting Mayor Pete then all stopping on cue then on cue "Butt Edge Edge" then on cue "President Pete". Only thing more phony was his rehearsed gestures.

Can't believe he's doing as well as he has.
He tried emulating Obama quite a bit

[ElNono]

Yeah they should go with Biden since he'll be strongest in ruby red states like South Carolina where the Democrats have no chance of winning in a general election.

Gonna flip Arizona, like Shillary! Yeah baby!

[ElNono]

tbh, bernie should put this on a loop in the jumbotron for his speeches...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/aGcy1jYnEJ54Y/source.gif

[Pelicans78]

Warren's votes are slowly but surely gravitating to Bernie. If and when Warren suspends, Bernie will be at or near 40 percent.

No it will be like 35% with Warren’s voters which won’t be enough if one of the moderates can take control of coalesce all of the moderate votes.

[hater]

:lmao at idiots adding and subtracting votes from candidates

it does not work that way Nancies :lol

[Will Hunting]

No it will be like 35% with Warren’s voters which won’t be enough if one of the moderates can take control of coalesce all of the moderate votes.
If all of Warrens support really does flip to Sanders when she drops out I think it will be enough but doesn’t matter because I think the support Warren has left (at least among white people) is going to the Stapler Thrower once Warren drops out.

Four years ago everyone thought it was as simple as “Trump has more votes going against him than for him so he’ll lose once they find a mainstream Republican for the other 60% of the primary voters to unify around” and it never happened because it’s a slower and more dynamic process.

Primary voters like high school drop out Tryquesha Jefferson who has the reading ability of a 5th grader don’t see things in terms of “well I’m a moderate so I need to pick the moderate!” Over time the candidate who’s winning the most votes gradually gets more of an advantage because of fundraising and name recognition imo.

Bernies issue is that his coalition of loyalists isn’t as large as Trump’s was (yet). If it got to that point and the primary field was still crowded I think it’d be his to lose.

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1227450582430093314?s=21

[pgardn]

tbh, bernie should put this on a loop in the jumbotron for his speeches...https://media0.giphy.com/media/aGcy1jYnEJ54Y/source.gif

They are all coal miners quite obviously.

[DarrinS]

Lol

1227361491726168064

[florige]

Man I should be sleeping but instead I put it on MSNBC and actually listened to Buttplug give his speech. Literally the first time I've actually listened to him. I'm kind of shocked how incredibly fake and orchestrated his crowd was. On cue chanting Mayor Pete then all stopping on cue then on cue "Butt Edge Edge" then on cue "President Pete". Only thing more phony was his rehearsed gestures.

Can't believe he's doing as well as he has.


That's what I'm saying. I really don't get the appeal with this guy how he is even close to Sanders.

[Spurs Homer]

I don't think so, Homer. They're just going to have to get in bed with him like it OR not.

not before trying to screw him though

[Will Hunting]

That's what I'm saying. I really don't get the appeal with this guy how he is even close to Sanders.
People (at least white people) are nervous as shit about replicating 2016 and picking a candidate who loses to Trump so they’re more indecisive and unsure about things than they’ve ever been in a primary. If you look at exit polling most of Buttplug’s voters didn’t decide on him until the last minute and likely did so after the message of him being “electable” had been crammed down their throat leading up to Election Day.

Its why I’m still hopeful Bernie can pull it out - his supporters vote for him because they like him and the other candidates are all trying to run on the platform of “I might be a total piece of shit but I’m electable.” At some point the candidate who actually inspires more people should win out.

[Trill Clinton]

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[DarrinS]

^Lol, Talcum X Twitter feed

[Trill Clinton]

^Lol, Talcum X Twitter feed

I'm blocked from his twitter.

[Spurs Homer]

People (at least white people) are nervous as shit about replicating 2016 and picking a candidate who loses to Trump so they’re more indecisive and unsure about things than they’ve ever been in a primary. If you look at exit polling most of Buttplug’s voters didn’t decide on him until the last minute and likely did so after the message of him being “electable” had been crammed down their throat leading up to Election Day.

Its why I’m still hopeful Bernie can pull it out - his supporters vote for him because they like him and the other candidates are all trying to run on the platform of “I might be a total piece of shit but I’m electable.” At some point the candidate who actually inspires more people should win out.

Bernie will keep on doing interviews like he did last sunday - and I see that Bernie NOW gets it -

he knows how to answer now:

example: Question: "blah-blah SOCIALISM - blah-blah- how do you defend - blah-blah?"
Bernie: "trump took 800 million from the govt for his corrupt businesses - trump gave farmers billions - that is Socialism!"
"only difference is - trumps tax cuts for the rich - is Republicans believe in socialism for the rich!"



question: "blah-blah you once defended Dictator blah - from blah-blah -how do you defend blah blah?"

Bernie: "c'mon - that was in 1974? - did you also find my 3rd grade essay I wrote? - look - Trump cozies up to putin and kim jong un and he defends them and attacks our allies......"

As long as Bernie stays on this track - he will be the nominee as more people "get it" -

the way to beat trump is easy as shit - IF YOU FOCUS ON HIS CRIMINALITY!

If I ran against trump - and he attacked me - my first response would be:

"i have a question for you mr trump - why did you have unprotected sex with a porn star while melania was pregnant with your child? Did she get tested afterwards? Did you? Did your son?"

next time he attacked me - I would respond by:

"why did you stand next to putin and defend russia? did you accept any money from russia? are you aware of ANY GOP member - that accepted anything of value from russia - either thru the NRA or directly from the kremlin? will you explain to the american people why you chose to believe russia over the usa?"

I would be like a pit bull - over and over and over -

any question directed at me - would be automatically returned in the form of a question to trump:

"what about your health care plan?"

answer: "I would have the bestest, free, health care plan on day 1 and would never even explain how to pay for it - thats how it works isnt it - mr trump?"


Bernie got this - if he can withstand the Democrat/Bloomberg/DNC attacks.

[Thread]

not before trying to screw him though

:lolYou're right, Homer,,,Media will know when the time is right to get on his train & they will not miss it,,,till then he's in their cross hairs.

[Spurtacular]

I’ve seen those videos, and yes the mainstream media is always a shit show. Everybody knows this.

I’m just posting what Bernie’s posting, he’s been making a lot of ominous tweets like this towards the president.

I think he’s going to do it. I think he’ll at least win the popular vote.

His snowflake handlers are whispering for him to say that. He's not a prophet; he's a commie cuck.

[florige]

People (at least white people) are nervous as shit about replicating 2016 and picking a candidate who loses to Trump so they’re more indecisive and unsure about things than they’ve ever been in a primary. If you look at exit polling most of Buttplug’s voters didn’t decide on him until the last minute and likely did so after the message of him being “electable” had been crammed down their throat leading up to Election Day.

Its why I’m still hopeful Bernie can pull it out - his supporters vote for him because they like him and the other candidates are all trying to run on the platform of “I might be a total piece of shit but I’m electable.” At some point the candidate who actually inspires more people should win out.


This is Bernie's primary to lose. With his loyal followers and the smart campaign he is running I can't see him losing unless the DNC cheats him over again in which I will officially change my party to independent. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination Trump will win the WH again period.

[hater]

His snowflake handlers are whispering for him to say that. He's not a prophet; he's a commie cuck.

this country already is socialist towards corporations. Bernie wants to change that and make it socialist towards its citizens.

I'm down with that :tu

[spurraider21]

If all of Warrens support really does flip to Sanders when she drops out I think it will be enough but doesn’t matter because I think the support Warren has left (at least among white people) is going to the Stapler Thrower once Warren drops out.

Four years ago everyone thought it was as simple as “Trump has more votes going against him than for him so he’ll lose once they find a mainstream Republican for the other 60% of the primary voters to unify around” and it never happened because it’s a slower and more dynamic process.

Primary voters like high school drop out Tryquesha Jefferson who has the reading ability of a 5th grader don’t see things in terms of “well I’m a moderate so I need to pick the moderate!” Over time the candidate who’s winning the most votes gradually gets more of an advantage because of fundraising and name recognition imo.

Bernies issue is that his coalition of loyalists isn’t as large as Trump’s was (yet). If it got to that point and the primary field was still crowded I think it’d be his to lose.
this is a fair point... its just hard to relate to because most of us here follow politics much more closely than the average voter, so while we are able to more or less place the candidates on a spectrum and figure out who lines up closest to us, typical voter doesnt really go through that analysis

[AaronY]

AaronY (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732) rolling in his grave tonight.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteChiefDolphin-size_restricted.gif
Lol Biden sucks apparently and I'm pretty bummed and surprised about it. But luckily I'm not in a cult so I can just admit it. Also, on the plus side it puts a huge amount of daylight between me and boutons which can't be said about most of the progressives on this forum since you guys agree with him on 98% of things at this point

[CosmicCowboy]

*

[Reck]

:lmao at idiots adding and subtracting votes from candidates

it does not work that way Nancies :lol

How does it work then?

Do you think it is more likely that a Biden supporter goes to Bernie or that they go to Pete's or Amy's?

[AaronY]

How does it work then?

Do you think it is more likely that a Biden supporter goes to Bernie or that they go to Pete's or Amy's?

Peoples second choices are broken down here

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

It's not as ideological as you would think. Political scientists talk about this all the time how people don't just look at policies like you would think but a lot of times their second choice is very different ideologically than their first. If you click on the faces you can see more stats

[Spurtacular]

this country already is socialist towards corporations. Bernie wants to change that and make it socialist towards its citizens.

I'm down with that :tu

It sounds great on paper. And then the government is just one step closer to enslaving people.

[Spurtacular]

Lol Biden sucks apparently and I'm pretty bummed and surprised about it. But luckily I'm not in a cult so I can just admit it. Also, on the plus side it puts a huge amount of daylight between me and boutons which can't be said about most of the progressives on this forum since you guys agree with him on 98% of things at this point

He's no less of a puppet. If you liked him before, you should overlook the gaffes, tbh.

[Winehole23]

It sounds great on paper. And then the government is just one step closer to enslaving people.
There's little need for the government to enslave the people if they're already slaves to employment.

These guys like Steyer and Bloomberg get rich when they snooze, no comparison to ordinary economic striving.

An unexpected $500 expenditure exhausts the life savings of 50% of Norte-Americanos. Investing in the market hasn't been quite the boon to retirees promised before 2008

[Spurtacular]

There's little need for the government to enslave the people if they're already slaves to employment.

These guys like Steyer and Bloomberg get rich when they snooze, no comparison to ordinary economic striving.

An unexpected $500 expenditure exhausts the life savings of 50% of Norte-Americanos. Investing in the market hasn't been quite the boon to retirees promised before 2008

That's bondage. Full-on enslavement is the aim.

[spurraider21]

Peoples second choices are broken down here

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

It's not as ideological as you would think. Political scientists talk about this all the time how people don't just look at policies like you would think but a lot of times their second choice is very different ideologically than their first. If you click on the faces you can see more stats
yeah... i always have to be reminded of this, because it seems counterintuitive, but its also coming from the perspective of somebody who follows politics nearly daily which isn't representative of most voters

but the sanders-warren second choice reciprocity does seem ideological

[spurraider21]

Chair of Iowa Democratic Party resigned

good riddance

even the process of fixing the reporting errors is unnecessarily absurd. the math errors on the worksheets cant even be corrected during a recanvass, only during a recount. and ONLY AFTER a recanvassing are you allowed to get to a recount. oh, and the campaign of whoever requested them has to pay for both

imagine having to pay for 2 steps like that just to fix objective, easy to see math errors

[hater]

How does it work then?

Do you think it is more likely that a Biden supporter goes to Bernie or that they go to Pete's or Amy's?

are you a mind reader niga?

I think some biden supporters will ho to Buttman and some to Bernie

is it that hard to figure it out?

[hater]

It sounds great on paper. And then the government is just one step closer to enslaving people.

we are already enslaved :lol wake up

pay taxes, obey laws, stay in your lane and if you think different you are marginalized and attacked

[hater]

speaking of slavery here is Dumps great america working for the common folk

a third of americans cant even make ends meet every month

https://twitter.com/andrzejfesnak/status/1227767618783850497?s=21


but but ma stock market..... :lmao dumb assses so gullible

[pgardn]

we are already enslaved :lol wake up

pay taxes, obey laws, stay in your lane and if you think different you are marginalized and attacked

Yeah.
Lets all forget what red lights mean.
Just go, be free...

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/6BnPc7D/13170.jpg

[Spurtacular]

we are already enslaved :lol wake up

pay taxes, obey laws, stay in your lane and if you think different you are marginalized and attacked

How did socialism work out for the people under Mao, Hitler, Stalin?

[Reck]

How did socialism work out for the people under Mao, Hitler, Stalin?

Derp equating Sanders to Hitler is peak derpism.

[Spurtacular]

Derp equating Sanders to Hitler is peak derpism.

Try again, tranny. Cuckie Sanders could have relatively good intentions; the system doesn't begin and end with him though.

[TSA]

Documents reveal DNC was 'intimately involved' in development of troubled Iowa caucus app

https://news.yahoo.com/shadow-inc-idp-contract-dnc-documents-224407455.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=tw

[Will Hunting]

How did socialism work out for the people under Mao, Hitler, Stalin?
Economically National Socialism was a boon for Germany. Got them out of depression (Germany reached full employment in 1936 when the rest of the world was still coming out of the Great Depressiom much more slowly) and led to massive advancements in infrastructure (the autobahn was built by the nazis).

[SnakeBoy]

Derp equating Sanders to Hitler is peak derpism.

Sanders healthcare plan is more Stalin tbh

[Spurtacular]

Economically National Socialism was a boon for Germany. Got them out of depression (Germany reached full employment in 1936 when the rest of the world was still coming out of the Great Depressiom much more slowly) and led to massive advancements in infrastructure (the autobahn was built by the nazis).

They confiscated all those Jews' money. That what you want to do?

[spurraider21]

new nevada poll for the first time in a month

https://i.gyazo.com/e2f685fcf74d31889d528b3d7d8051cd.png

[Thread]

new nevada poll for the first time in a month

https://i.gyazo.com/e2f685fcf74d31889d528b3d7d8051cd.png

Drive that stake deep into daddy Biden.

[Trill Clinton]

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https://i.imgur.com/ByQSoLU.gif?noredirect

[Spurminator]

Documents reveal DNC was 'intimately involved' in development of troubled Iowa caucus app

https://news.yahoo.com/shadow-inc-idp-contract-dnc-documents-224407455.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=tw

This is huge news if true and obviously proves foul play, because why else would the DNC be involved in a partnership with an app developer to develop a smartphone app that fundamentally changed the way its first state primary caucus votes were reported? State party leaders are usually given carte blanche to do stuff like this on their own.

[spurraider21]

This is huge news if true and obviously proves foul play, because why else would the DNC be involved in a partnership with an app developer to develop a smartphone app that fundamentally changed the way its first state primary caucus votes were reported? State party leaders are usually given carte blanche to do stuff like this on their own.
i also still dont understand these conspiracy theories because none of the reported results and mistakes therein came from the app itself. its one thing if the errors (votes going the wrong way, etc) were the result of an "app glitch" or something. instead the app just totally failed (an embarrassment to be sure) and wasnt able to report anything

[DMC]

Instead of saying the left is clever enough to pull that off, the agreed upon narrative is they are incompetent.

Ya thats so much better.

[spurraider21]

Instead of saying the left is clever enough to pull that off, the agreed upon narrative is they are incompetent.

Ya thats so much better.
maybe its just me, but i never framed this as whether they were clever enough to pull it off, but rather corrupt enough to attempt it.

[Will Hunting]

They confiscated all those Jews' money. That what you want to do?
The economic prosperity came way before Jewish money was confiscated. That has nothing to do with it.

[hater]

How did socialism work out for the people under Mao, Hitler, Stalin?

Mao and Stalin was communism

Hitler was fascism (more similar to a Trump presidency tbqh)

I'd say socialism has and is working very well for Scandinavia

[Will Hunting]

Mao and Stalin was communism

Hitler was fascism (more similar to a Trump presidency tbqh)

I'd say socialism has and is working very well for Scandinavia
Hitler was much better on generating wealth equality and social mobility than Trump is :lol

[florige]

Drive that stake deep into daddy Biden.


Biden is finished. It would had been one thing had he just lost in NH or IA, but he got downright destroyed.

[spurraider21]

Biden is finished. It would had been one thing had he just lost in NH or IA, but he got downright destroyed.
all that ukrainian dirt

[hater]

Biden is finished. It would had been one thing had he just lost in NH or IA, but he got downright destroyed.

his strategy of telling voters to go vote for someone else and calling them dogface liars seems to be working to perfection

[hater]

https://twitter.com/thebabylonbee/status/1228393708950867968?s=21

Come on by, say hi to uncle Joe, and grab one of our free AOL CDs," Biden says in an ad for his campaign tour. "You know, the great thing about AOL is that you get so many hours of internets. Only squares use Compuserve, Prodigy, or MSN. We're keen on America Online!"

The campaign has warned that it's first come, first served, so you'd better hurry if you want to experience the lightning-fast speeds of AOL's 56K dial-up service.

"I love America Online," Biden continued as he booted up his Windows 98 PC. "Every time I hear that grinding, beeping sound while trying to get on the internet, I just know that I'm about to experience the world wide web at a rate of one web page per hour."

His wife then screamed at him to get off the computer as she was expecting a call. "Well, I'd better go," Biden said, chuckling. "But remember, for the fastest interwebs in town, come see Uncle Joe. You won't regret it -- probably."

Rally attendees will receive their choice of a CD or 3.5" floppy disk good for a free trial of AOL dial-up service. Joe will then say hi and shake their hands "and maybe more if you're lucky."

[AaronY]

He's no less of a puppet. If you liked him before, you should overlook the gaffes, tbh.
Huh? I still like him a lot but when he starts coming in 4th and 5th with 100% name recognition it's pretty much a given he sucks

[Reck]

Drive that stake deep into daddy Biden.

Not necessarily.

We saw what happened in Iowa, a caucus. This is one too. Bernie can "win" and Biden can come in second and get same amount of delegates.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html

Another new poll released today for South Carolina. He's lost steam there as well but still leads by 8 points.

:lol Amy and Pete though

[spurraider21]

Not necessarily.

We saw what happened in Iowa, a caucus. This is one too. Bernie can "win" and Biden can come in second and get same amount of delegates.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html

Another new poll released today for South Carolina. He's lost steam there as well but still leads by 8 points.

:lol Amy and Pete though
damn... that East Carolina Poll had results from like 2 weeks ago where it was 37-19-14 (biden/steyer/sanders). the new one that came out today is from the same poll and has it 28-20-14 (biden/sanders/steyer)

big drop

[Spurtacular]

The economic prosperity came way before Jewish money was confiscated. That has nothing to do with it.

IIRC they were being suppressed really early on. The ghettoizing them came later though.

[Spurtacular]

Mao and Stalin was communism

Hitler was fascism (more similar to a Trump presidency tbqh)

I'd say socialism has and is working very well for Scandinavia

Fancy name for full-on socialism.

[Spurtacular]

Huh? I still like him a lot but when he starts coming in 4th and 5th with 100% name recognition it's pretty much a given he sucks

It's early. Super Tuesday will tell us what.

[RandomGuy]

Fancy name for full-on socialism.

Define socialism.

Or fold.

[Spurtacular]

Define socialism.

Or fold.

Pop quiz. :lol

[RandomGuy]

Pop quiz. :lol

So, you have no idea what it is you are against. :rollin

Got it.

[Trill Clinton]

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[DarrinS]

1228420926687055872

Nah, everyone is forced to watch his ads. It's only costing him 100M though. :lol

[Reck]

In other related news:

Bitch Collins now trails her oponent by 1. Well within the margin of error but I will take the blue font.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/me/maine_senate_collins_vs_gideon-6928.html

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) real clear just released a batch of polls from tons of super Tuesday states. It's pretty disheartening how Bloomberg is actually competing. I guess is all in for Bernie.

National polls still shows Biden with the best chance to beat Trump. :lol

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

[spurraider21]

In other related news:

Bitch Collins now trails her oponent by 1. Well within the margin of error but I will take the blue font.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/me/maine_senate_collins_vs_gideon-6928.html

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) real clear just released a batch of polls from tons of super Tuesday states. It's pretty disheartening how Bloomberg is actually competing. I guess is all in for Bernie.

National polls still shows Biden with the best chance to beat Trump. :lol

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
bloomberg's success in the polls is legitimately depressing, tbh

joining late, skipping debates, literally skipping states... and still finding success just because he's willing to spend spend spend.

[Reck]

bloomberg's success in the polls is legitimately depressing, tbh

joining late, skipping debates, literally skipping states... and still finding success just because he's willing to spend spend spend.

Hopefully Bernie and Warren go to town on him on tomorrow's debate. (Yes, he actually made the Las Vegas debate)

[SnakeBoy]

Hitler was fascism (more similar to a Trump presidency tbqh)


Hitler reduced taxes/regulations and was reluctant to get involved in military conflicts. I did not know that.

Just curious, do you know what countries do not allow private health insurance?

[spurraider21]

Hitler reduced taxes/regulations and was reluctant to get involved in military conflicts. I did not know that.

Just curious, do you know what countries do not allow private health insurance?
very broadly speaking, fascism describes the power structure, not necessarily the individual policies.

[spurraider21]

Hopefully Bernie and Warren go to town on him on tomorrow's debate. (Yes, he actually made the Las Vegas debate)
i think warren will get some shots at bloomberg, but for the most part i think think they're going to be too busy ganging up on sanders.

warren's post-new hampshire speech mostly sounded like a concession with her aching to endorse klobuchar... and just yesterday she jumped on the bandwagon of saying Bernie "has a lot to answer for" with respect to his twitter fans. bloomberg also recently released an online ad attacking the same thing. they still never really neatly put away the whole "bernie said a woman cant win" story. it has faded away, but they never had any kind of real reconciliation, at least publicly.

[Reck]

she jumped on the bandwagon of saying Bernie "has a lot to answer for" with respect to his twitter fans. bloomberg also recently released an online ad attacking the same thing.

This is why she mistakenly gets associated with establishment even though it's clear she's not. And that shit sticks too.

She should be doing as well as Sanders but for one reason or another gets lumped in with the Biden's of the world.

[spurraider21]

This is why she mistakenly gets associated with establishment even though it's clear she's not. And that shit sticks too.

She should be doing as well as Sanders but for one reason or another gets lumped in with the Biden's of the world.
her policy positions are definitely left of the establishment, but her rhetoric lately hasn't matched it. theres that culinary union in nevada which basically said they dont want M4A. bernie supporters on twitter apparently let them have it, which naturally blew up into a story on its own.. and her response to that was

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the key word of "affordable" health care seems like an even further pivot from her original M4A position. if your policy position fundamentally differs from that union, i dont see how you can really take that position unless you're just trying to play both sides

and she's been leaning into the "girl power" angle quite a bit, separating her and klobuchar from the pack on more than one occasion. of course there was also the whole "bernie doesnt think a woman can win" stuff. nothing of substance, pure political stunts imo

for most of this cycle i had been fully behind warren and contributed to her campaign before anybody else, but imo she has run a pretty poor campaign since she peaked a few months ago. i had worried about this too, back when she released her DNA test results, i was even saying then that she'd be my preferred candidate on policy but that i thought that decision showed poor judgment and i was skeptical of her ability to campaign well

she'd still be my 2nd choice from this candidate pool right now, but doesnt have a realistic pathway to the nomination, and is just playing spoilers imho

[phxspurfan]

Lol CNN attacking Bernies health

[spurraider21]

Lol CNN attacking Bernies health
one fair criticism on this topic is that he had promised to release his medical records following his heart attack. while he has released some things, its not nearly at the scope which was expected following his promise. and now he has seemingly backtracked on doing so.

and i get that a full release of medical records is probably unnecessarily intrusive, but its fair game when you are that old, have had a recent heart attack, and most importantly, already came out and said you WOULD release all of them

[Reck]

one fair criticism on this topic is that he had promised to release his medical records following his heart attack. while he has released some things, its not nearly at the scope which was expected following his promise. and now he has seemingly backtracked on doing so.

and i get that a full release of medical records is probably unnecessarily intrusive, but its fair game when you are that old, have had a recent heart attack, and most importantly, already came out and said you WOULD release all of them

The media should've done it when it happened instead they played the hope and pray he's well card. The moment to bring up his health issue was then, not like 2 months after it happened.

[Will Hunting]

her policy positions are definitely left of the establishment, but her rhetoric lately hasn't matched it. theres that culinary union in nevada which basically said they dont want M4A. bernie supporters on twitter apparently let them have it, which naturally blew up into a story on its own.. and her response to that was

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the key word of "affordable" health care seems like an even further pivot from her original M4A position. if your policy position fundamentally differs from that union, i dont see how you can really take that position unless you're just trying to play both sides

and she's been leaning into the "girl power" angle quite a bit, separating her and klobuchar from the pack on more than one occasion. of course there was also the whole "bernie doesnt think a woman can win" stuff. nothing of substance, pure political stunts imo

for most of this cycle i had been fully behind warren and contributed to her campaign before anybody else, but imo she has run a pretty poor campaign since she peaked a few months ago. i had worried about this too, back when she released her DNA test results, i was even saying then that she'd be my preferred candidate on policy but that i thought that decision showed poor judgment and i was skeptical of her ability to campaign well
I thought she’d basically be Bernie but more electable but to your point her campaign has been shit. She’s tried playing both sides and has been way too cavalier about it and the whole Bernie is a sexist thing was way too forced.

I still think not running in 2016 because she was worried about the staying friendly with the Clintons despite progressive America begging her to did permanent damage to her image that she hasn’t recovered from. Prior to 2016 she was considered the leader of the progressive movement in America and Bernie basically took that role from her when he was the one willing to risk DNC blowback and run against Hillary in the primary while she was groveling to be Hillary’s VP. There’s no way to know but I don’t think Bernie runs in 2016 if she ran and the cult of followers Bernie has now would be following her.

Between letting Bernie takeover as the king of the progressives and the DNA test shit she doesn’t have the “inevitable future president” shine to her name she used to have. It’s a shame too because the CFPB is a huge accomplishment she can point to that most senators running for President don’t have on their resume.

[phxspurfan]

The media should've done it when it happened instead they played the hope and pray he's well card. The moment to bring up his health issue was then, not like 2 months after it happened.

This. I thought he was super old last race, and that he was super super old when he started campaigning again. But all of a sudden now that he’s a front runner, mainstream corporate funded media wants to surface all of his campaigns weaknesses.

Not even going to watch the bullshit that is Pete or Klobuchars town halls. They will have such softball questions for them and be so nice, it will be like watching a Zion Williamson vs LeBron NBA game on BSPN

[spurraider21]

I thought she’d basically be Bernie but more electable but to your point her campaign has been shit. She’s tried playing both sides and has been way too cavalier about it and the whole Bernie is a sexist thing was way too forced.

I still think not running in 2016 because she was worried about the staying friendly with the Clintons despite progressive America begging her to did permanent damage to her image that she hasn’t recovered from. Prior to 2016 she was considered the leader of the progressive movement in America and Bernie basically took that role from her when he was the one willing to risk DNC blowback and run against Hillary in the primary while she was groveling to be Hillary’s VP. There’s no way to know but I don’t think Bernie runs in 2016 if she ran and the cult of followers Bernie has now would be following her.

Between letting Bernie takeover as the king of the progressives and the DNA test shit she doesn’t have the “inevitable future president” shine to her name she used to have. It’s a shame too because the CFPB is a huge accomplishment she can point to that most senators running for President don’t have on their resume.
agree with all of this. and there is no way bernie would have ran in 2016 if she did. he was trying to get her to run... would make zero sense for him to push her to run if he intended to run against her

but even with her passing on running in 2016, she still had my support for 2020 for the bolded reasons above

warren's grilling of John Stumpf in 2016 was fucking legendary tbh

[baseline bum]

agree with all of this. and there is no way bernie would have ran in 2016 if she did. he was trying to get her to run... would make zero sense for him to push her to run if he intended to run against her

but even with her passing on running in 2016, she still had my support for 2020 for the bolded reasons above

warren's grilling of John Stumpf in 2016 was fucking legendary tbh

Fucking Warren blowing a presidency all but giftwrapped to her. She is the Harden of DC. Shame because she was still my first choice until that retarded identity politics hit on Sanders.

[spurraider21]

Fucking Warren blowing a presidency all but giftwrapped to her. She is the Harden of DC. Shame because she was still my first choice until that retarded identity politics hit on Sanders.
+1

she was doing very well in early debates with the ridiculously crowded fields, and i think she had the standout moment from those early ones when she railed on people who "go through the trouble of running for president just to talk about the things we cant do and shouldnt fight for"

her medicare for all pivot into "we'll do public option first and then come back to it" was a big red flag (and coincides with when she started plummeting in the polls following her brief stint being virtually tied with biden), but she was still my #1 until that lousy hit job. since then she's been circling the drain tbh

[pgardn]

agree with all of this. and there is no way bernie would have ran in 2016 if she did. he was trying to get her to run... would make zero sense for him to push her to run if he intended to run against her

but even with her passing on running in 2016, she still had my support for 2020 for the bolded reasons above

warren's grilling of John Stumpf in 2016 was fucking legendary tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJhkX74D10M

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