2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[SnakeBoy]

No, she beat him by 4.4mm there.

Let her go man, she lost.

[Spurminator]

ducks is more scared of Biden than Dear Leader.

[ElNono]

ducks is more scared of Biden than Dear Leader.

Which is sorta hilarious. IMVHO, the only realistic way Biden wins the general is if he's endorsed by Trump.

[ElNono]

(that was a joke, for the conspiratards here)

[Spurminator]

Let her go man, she lost.

I'm not nearly as sore about that as you were when California was admitted into the Union.

[Spurminator]

Which is sorta hilarious. IMVHO, the only realistic way Biden wins the general is if he's endorsed by Trump.

If enough people who voted Clinton in 2016 show up, I think he can squeeze sufficient new votes and previous Trump voters to eke it out.

Every Dem candidate has a path to victory imo. It's up to the voters not to be petty sore losers if their favorite candidate doesn't get the call.

[Reck]

Nono still hasn’t said what states he loses that even Hillary was able to win. Lol

Biden is virtually a lock to win PA at the bare minimum. Being from the area and all.

[spurraider21]

fify
In the whole country tbh

[ElNono]

Nono still hasn’t said what states he loses that even Hillary was able to win. Lol

Biden is virtually a lock to win PA at the bare minimum. Being from the area and all.

IMO, he loses Florida for sure, and portions of the Rust Belt. Iowa and New Hampshire have not been kind to old Joe either.

EDIT: and he needs to win more than Shillary, tbh... that's the whole point.

[Spurs Homer]

In a surprise moment at the end of his Dallas rally on the eve of Super Tuesday, former Vice President Joe Biden called former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke up to the stage -- and vowed to put O'Rourke, who has said the government should forcibly seize assault rifles from Americans, in charge of gun-control efforts


Lol biden


thats scary

remember when obama took away everyones gunz?

[Reck]

IMO, he loses Florida for sure, and portions of the Rust Belt. Iowa and New Hampshire have not been kind to old Joe either.

EDIT: and he needs to win more than Shillary, tbh... that's the whole point.

Really Florida would be one of his better chances imo. That state is mostly made up of old people. A constituency that has been great to him. Even Hillary came within 2 points of getting it.

[Spurtacular]

I'm on the record Biden has no shot, he's Shillary 2.0, I could certainly be wrong. He's still likely to get more votes than Dear Leader though, which really shows what a weak candidate Trump is and what a wasted opportunity this is.

Dems don't have anyone who will beat Trump, tbh.

[Spurminator]

Biden flips PA, WI and MI imo. Everything else is gravy. I don't see any state that flips from Clinton to Trump.

For those concerned about a moderate winning those states, they were also won by Gore and Kerry.

[ElNono]

Really Florida would be one of his better chances imo. That state is mostly made up of old people. A constituency that has been great to him. Even Hillary came within 2 points of getting it.

You can only win Florida if you rally the people from the main cities to go out and vote. Thinking that's going to happen simply because people dislike Trump is fool's gold, IMO.

[ElNono]

Dems don't have anyone who will beat Trump, tbh.

Dems really do have generally weak candidates too this go around, tbh. Although all of them have a solid shot, mostly because it's Trump on the other end.

[ElNono]

Biden flips PA, WI and MI imo. Everything else is gravy. I don't see any state that flips from Clinton to Trump.

For those concerned about a moderate winning those states, they were also won by Gore and Kerry.

I don't know if he can win NH, tbh

[AaronY]

Also grats AaronY (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732)


story of AaronY (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732)


Biden wins South Carolina:

https://i.imgur.com/laBd8XU.gif


Pete Drops out:

https://i.imgur.com/W1g9kN8.gif


Klobuchar drops out, both Pete and Amy set to endorse Biden:

https://i.imgur.com/OSSq5Pc.gif


Super Tuesday Results:

https://i.imgur.com/PiCegHe.gif
Lmao!!

[Spurminator]

I don't know if he can win NH, tbh

He can lose NH if he wins the other three. NH is like 3 votes.

[RandomGuy]

Which is sorta hilarious. IMVHO, the only realistic way Biden wins the general is if he's endorsed by Trump.

or picks sanders as a running mate.

Biden is palatable enough to the mushy middle, but it wont' be the mushy middle that decides the election.

[RandomGuy]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Odds of this being a brokered convention have gone way up, to being the most probable outcome by a mile.

ish. Bunch of old white dudes in their seventies on both sides. Our country can do better, IMO.

[Reck]

So many polls today. Biden has made so much ground.

Bernie’s lead in California was halfed according to a poll and Biden now leads in states he was trailing.

[RandomGuy]

So many polls today. Biden has made so much ground.

Bernie’s lead in California was halfed according to a poll and Biden now leads in states he was trailing.

Eyup. The moderate vote is now not split 4 ways.

[spurraider21]

voting today felt quite eerie... i'm used to the packed, line-filled stations in LA. there were about 4-5 people at my polling place here in charlottesville

and was surprised to learn the virginia primary requires voter ID

[hater]

voting today felt quite eerie... i'm used to the packed, line-filled stations in LA. there were about 4-5 people at my polling place here in charlottesville

and was surprised to learn the virginia primary requires voter ID

same here

[DarrinS]

voting today felt quite eerie... i'm used to the packed, line-filled stations in LA. there were about 4-5 people at my polling place here in charlottesville

and was surprised to learn the virginia primary requires voter ID


Nevertheless, you persisted. :lol

[spurraider21]

Nevertheless, you persisted. :lol
yeah, i'm not among those impacted by the requirement. never claimed to be

[DarrinS]

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[spurraider21]

this gives me a kick every time

https://yourfuckingpollingplace.com/

[Will Hunting]

voting today felt quite eerie... i'm used to the packed, line-filled stations in LA. there were about 4-5 people at my polling place here in charlottesville

and was surprised to learn the virginia primary requires voter ID
Not a good sign for Sanders if he’s getting that kind of turnout in a college town...

[spurraider21]

Not a good sign for Sanders if he’s getting that kind of turnout in a college town...
i went around 11am local time and when i put my ballot in the scanner it said i was #368 or something

granted, there are about 20 polling locations in charlottesville, and the one i was assigned to is one of the four farthest from the university. though yeah, outside the polling area i saw 2 bloomberg signs and 1 bernie sign

[spurraider21]

way off topic, and jumping back to policy... but how do you know how much funding a public option will need if you dont know how many people are going to enroll, and anybody can as soon as they want to?

how do we know its more affordable than medicare for all? if everybody decided to hop on the public option... isn't that already basically medicare for all, and would require the same level of funding?

[baseline bum]

voting today felt quite eerie... i'm used to the packed, line-filled stations in LA. there were about 4-5 people at my polling place here in charlottesville

and was surprised to learn the virginia primary requires voter ID

Well fuck, that's horrible news for Bernie. Ugh Biden vs Trump is going to be another bloodbath like 2016.

[Reck]

The average on rcp in Virginia has Biden up 17 points on average

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/va/virginia_democratic_primary-6920.html

[spurraider21]

The average on rcp in Virginia has Biden up 17 points on average

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/va/virginia_democratic_primary-6920.html
its based on 2 polls, but yeah

https://i.gyazo.com/88e7fbc085aeb4db6640320a57670cd2.png

looks like he has largely consolidated the buttplug/amy vote and eaten into bloomberg, while sanders hasn't gained much ground

[CosmicCowboy]

Well fuck, that's horrible news for Bernie. Ugh Biden vs Trump is going to be another bloodbath like 2016.

I have been shocked at just how disoriented and pathetic Biden has been. Its sad. His family should have stopped him from humiliating himself like this.

[spurraider21]

I have been shocked at just how disoriented and pathetic Biden has been. Its sad. His family should have stopped him from humiliating himself like this.
humiliating his way into what is at this point the frontrunner position to the nomination? (538 has him at 3/10 to get an outright majority, with sanders only 1/12)

[Trill Clinton]

I early voted at the Tobin library last week. It was crazy packed.

[DarrinS]

Lol

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[Reck]

Lol

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Comey being a Klobuchar fan makes a lot of sense. Both are bland and boring.

[boutons_deux]

I early voted at the Tobin library last week. It was crazy packed.

I did too, had a long line for municipals, but I must have been lucky this time, there was no line.

[spurraider21]

reality is starting to set in that this guy is going to be the nominee

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[DarrinS]

Comey being a Klobuchar fan makes a lot of sense. Both are bland and boring.

He was endorsing Biden. :lol

[rjv]

centrists are circling the wagons. trump has his minions fooled into believing he is anti-establishment and the DNC is parroting this charade. long live the plutocracy!

[Reck]

reality is starting to set in that this guy is going to be the nominee

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:lmao So this is what Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) was talking about last night.

At least he can say he knew about the constitution once upon a time before old age and dementia kicked in. Trump in the other hand, doesn't even know how to write simple, every day words let alone learn about our laws and constitution.

[Reck]

He was endorsing Biden. :lol

I know but he invoked Klobuchar before he backdoor complemented Biden.

[SnakeBoy]

Well fuck, that's horrible news for Bernie. Ugh Biden vs Trump is going to be another bloodbath like 2016.

Don't give up hope, always a chance Joe gets some of us to cross over

[TSA]

Trump in the other hand, doesn't even know how to write simple, every day words let along learn about our laws and constitution.

lol

[Reck]

lol

Your point? I'm just a rando on an online board. Trump is the fucking president. :lol TSA holds me in high esteem. Thanks for putting me on the same footing as the fucking president of the united states. :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

This sudden alleged and highly publicized rise for Biden long before the polls close looks like a deliberate attempt to suppress the Bernie vote.

[Reck]

This sudden alleged and highly publicized rise for Biden long before the polls close looks like a deliberate attempt to suppress the Bernie vote.

It correlates directly with his blowout win Saturday after his campaign was left for dead. He cut Bernie's delegate lead to just 7. :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

It correlates directly with his blowout win Saturday after his campaign was left for dead. He cut Bernie's delegate lead to just 7. :lol

So you say the press is suddenly declaring him the winner because he won one democratic primary in a red state that Democrats will lose in November? This was happening on the morning of Super Tuesday and they are acting like it is a done deal, Biden wins.

[spurraider21]

polling can be a self fulfilling prophecy, tbh

[ChumpDumper]

This sudden alleged and highly publicized rise for Biden long before the polls close looks like a deliberate attempt to suppress the Bernie vote.Support for Biden skyrocketed in pretty much every poll taken after SC. Faking that would be a difficult conspiracy to pull off IMO.

[SnakeBoy]

Bernie already playing the rigged card

[spurraider21]

Bernie already playing the rigged card
link?

[hater]

Bernie already playing the rigged card

4 years too late tbqh :lmao its been proven 2016 was a rig job

everyone jumping on Corn Pops bandwagon a day before the super tuesday is also starting to look suspect

If Bernie does not run 3rd party after being fucked this time, then hes an old cuck that deserves to be rigged out

[ChumpDumper]

4 years too late tbqh :lmao its been proven 2016 was a rig jobWhat was the actual rigging back then?

[florige]

I just find it crazy that SC has for some reason all but revived Biden after three weeks ago he was barely placing 3rd place in NH and IA.

[spurraider21]

I just find it crazy that SC has for some reason all but revived Biden after three weeks ago he was barely placing 3rd place in NH and IA.
not only did biden win big in the largest of the first 4 states, but amy and pete also fell off the map. thats just about as big

[baseline bum]

not only did biden win big in the largest of the first 4 states, but amy and pete also fell off the map. thats just about as big

Ugh if Biden rides reliably red states to the nomination. :pctoss

[spurraider21]

Ugh if Biden rides reliably red states to the nomination. :pctoss
makes sense because we're gonna beat trump by taking the red states

[florige]

Ugh if Biden rides reliably red states to the nomination. :pctoss

Then we lose in 2020 its that simple.

[CosmicCowboy]

not only did biden win big in the largest of the first 4 states, but amy and pete also fell off the map. thats just about as big

Except the other three states actually have a chance of voting for a Democrat in the general election.

[baseline bum]

Then we lose in 2020 its that simple.

At least we'll all be dead of corona cytokine storm by the time of the convention, right SnakeBoy?

[baseline bum]

Except the other three states actually have a chance of voting for a Democrat in the general election.

But Senile Joe said he's going to work with Republicans. Which means he'll take red states in the general too tho.

[Reck]

Biden: Vote for a senile old man
Bernie: Vote for a walking corpse waiting for his second and last heart attack

Just being fair here.

[florige]

But Senile Joe said he's going to work with Republicans. Which means he'll take red states in the general too tho.


Biden's already doing the same thing Hillary did and bring up Obama all the time. How can the Dem's be this stupid all over again? :bang

[florige]

Biden: Vote for a senile old man
Bernie: Vote for a walking corpse waiting for his second and last heart attack

Just being fair here.



At least Bernie can generate excitement among new voters. Maybe not like Obama but still something. Biden will probably generate less turnout than Hillary. The only thing I hope for if somehow Biden does win the nomination is that maybe the hate factor isn't going to be there like it was for Hillary.

[SnakeBoy]

At least we'll all be dead of corona cytokine storm by the time of the convention, right SnakeBoy?

Not me but ya'll fucked

I'll be all alone

https://n6-img-fp.akamaized.net/free-photo/nuclear-apocalypse-survivor_1443-1381.jpg?size=338&ext=jpg

[Spurminator]

I just find it crazy that SC has for some reason all but revived Biden after three weeks ago he was barely placing 3rd place in NH and IA.


not only did biden win big in the largest of the first 4 states, but amy and pete also fell off the map. thats just about as big

Bloomberg's debate debacle was huge for Biden. Biden was hemorrhaging moderate votes to him until that point. He got them back afterward.

[ChumpDumper]

At least Bernie can generate excitement among new voters. Maybe not like Obama but still something. Biden will probably generate less turnout than Hillary. The only thing I hope for if somehow Biden does win the nomination is that maybe the hate factor isn't going to be there like it was for Hillary.Do you think the record turnout in SC was just because of Bernie?

[Spurminator]

Biden will probably generate less turnout than Hillary.

The 2018 midterms had the biggest voter turnout in a midterm election since 1914.

I'm telling y'all, the election is either going to be about beating Trump or it's going to be about beating socialism. I feel better about the former as an overall theme, personally.

[spurraider21]

The 2018 midterms had the biggest voter turnout in a midterm election since 1914.

I'm telling y'all, the election is either going to be about beating Trump or it's going to be about beating socialism. I feel better about the former as an overall theme, personally.
you may well be right

it's just frustrating waiting for 4 years only to yet again be in the position to hold my nose and vote for somebody that i dont particularly believe in... and in the good scenario where he wins, i'm going to have to do the same thing 4 years later

there's also legitimate concern that biden's campaign is too similar to what hillary's was. running as a continuation of obama, and orange man bad. biden has less baggage but is more gaffe prone. we had concerns about hillary but diminished capacity wasn't among them

[hater]

got off the phone with my biz partners in VA. Bernie will surprise in VA tonight :tu

[SnakeBoy]

it's just frustrating waiting for 4 years only to yet again be in the position to hold my nose and vote for somebody that i dont particularly believe in... and in the good scenario where he wins, i'm going to have to do the same thing 4 years later


You could always sit it out and wait for Bernie 2024

[hater]

My sauces tell me Bernie is beasting in VA

[Spurminator]

there's also legitimate concern that biden's campaign is too similar to what hillary's was. running as a continuation of obama, and orange man bad. biden has less baggage but is more gaffe prone. we had concerns about hillary but diminished capacity wasn't among them

I definitely have concerns about Biden's candidacy, but I honestly believe he could run an identical campaign to Hillary and still win based on turnout (and maleness, and not being named Hillary Clinton) alone. I'm not sure he could run a worse campaign than hers, and I hope I don't find out what that looks like, but that's the only way I see him losing.

[vy65]

The 2018 midterms had the biggest voter turnout in a midterm election since 1914.

I'm telling y'all, the election is either going to be about beating Trump or it's going to be about beating socialism. I feel better about the former as an overall theme, personally.


you may well be right

it's just frustrating waiting for 4 years only to yet again be in the position to hold my nose and vote for somebody that i dont particularly believe in... and in the good scenario where he wins, i'm going to have to do the same thing 4 years later

there's also legitimate concern that biden's campaign is too similar to what hillary's was. running as a continuation of obama, and orange man bad. biden has less baggage but is more gaffe prone. we had concerns about hillary but diminished capacity wasn't among them

These. It's mind boggling that many posters don't understand that Bernie is as seriously flawed a candidate as Joe. The flaws are different but both are there to largely the same extent.

[spurraider21]

These. It's mind boggling that many posters don't understand that Bernie is as seriously flawed a candidate as Joe. The flaws are different but both are there to largely the same extent.
i think warren would have been close to bulletproof as soon as the "Pocahontas" novelty wore off

she's no spring chicken, but she's still sharp as a tack, smart as a whip, etc etc

isn't prone to gaffes when speaking, doesnt have political baggage, has gotten things done

[vy65]

i think warren would have been close to bulletproof as soon as the "Pocahontas" novelty wore off

she's no spring chicken, but she's still sharp as a tack, smart as a whip, etc etc

isn't prone to gaffes when speaking, doesnt have political baggage, has gotten things done

Yeah I don't think I've hid my support for her. She would crucify Trump in the debates, is progressive enough without being batshit insane or wanting to topple the economy, and is competent and facile enough to actually get shit done. I don't understand the import of all the "gaffes" shes made over the campaign, but I leave that to you all to hash out since they don't matter to me none.

[spurraider21]

Yeah I don't think I've hid my support for her. She would crucify Trump in the debates, is progressive enough without being batshit insane or wanting to topple the economy, and is competent and facile enough to actually get shit done. I don't understand the import of all the "gaffes" shes made over the campaign, but I leave that to you all to hash out since they don't matter to me none.
other than not calling herself a socialist, how are her policies not as "batshit" as bernie's though? she's for medicare for all, she's for loan forgiveness, she's for tuition free college, she's for a wealth tax.

granted, on M4A she has a more dragged out plan with the public option stepping stone... but she's still said that she ultimately supports M4A and wants to end private insurance. in fact, her M4A plan places an even higher burden on employers and the wealthy, while sanders spreads some of the burden onto the middle class

[vy65]

other than not calling herself a socialist, how are her policies not as "batshit" as bernie's though? she's for medicare for all, she's for loan forgiveness, she's for tuition free college, she's for a wealth tax.

granted, on M4A she has a more dragged out plan with the public option stepping stone... but she's still said that she ultimately supports M4A and wants to end private insurance. in fact, her M4A plan places an even higher burden on employers and the wealthy, while sanders spreads some of the burden onto the middle class

She doesn't want to outright ban the types of contracts that account for 75% of my work, for starters. And the majority of her M4A plan is funded by things like taxes on large corporations and the financial sector. She's a self-proclaimed capitalist and understands how the system works (she wrote the textbook for my law school's bankruptcy law class).

[spurraider21]

She doesn't want to outright ban the types of contracts that account for 75% of my work, for starters. And the majority of her M4A plan is funded by things like taxes on large corporations and the financial sector. She's a self-proclaimed capitalist and understands how the system works (she wrote the textbook for my law school's bankruptcy law class).
are you familiar with her position re: forced (mandatory) arbitration clauses in contracts?

[vy65]

are you familiar with her position re: forced (mandatory) arbitration clauses in contracts?

Can't say that I am no.

[vy65]

Oh wait, you mean the CFPB thing about financial services companies and class actions?

[spurraider21]

Oh wait, you mean the CFPB thing about financial services companies and class actions?

The main planks of Warren’s updated anti-corruption plan are similar to the bill she released last year, but there are several major updates, including banning forced arbitration clauses and class action waivers for all employment, consumer protection, antitrust, and civil rights cases. The most recent update tightens ethics rules for judges, and gives judges less leeway to personally decide whether or not they can recuse themselves on certain cases.
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/16/20867216/elizabeth-warren-anti-corruption-bill

the gap between warren and sanders when it comes to domestic policy is not nearly as large as you might think. she calls herself a capitalist and he calls himself a democratic socialist, and that nominal difference is largely the extent of it, tbh

there are some differences... if i recall correctly her loan foregiveness plan is something like 50k in forgiveness to each student, as opposed to complete foregiveness for all, etc. you'l find small differences, but she's basically a more presentable version of sanders when it comes to policy

i also think she's sharper and better with details as far as implementation (with an exception being her proposed M4A funding, which is a less realistic plan than bernie's, imo)

[vy65]

https://www.vox.com/2019/9/16/20867216/elizabeth-warren-anti-corruption-bill

I'm fine with all that. Go back and read the comments I made re: arbitration clauses. None dealt with these scenarios.


the gap between warren and sanders when it comes to domestic policy is not nearly as large as you might think. she calls herself a capitalist and he calls himself a democratic socialist, and that nominal difference is largely the extent of it, tbh

If you say so.


there are some differences... if i recall correctly her loan foregiveness plan is something like 50k in forgiveness to each student, as opposed to complete foregiveness for all, etc. you'l find small differences, but she's basically a more presentable version of sanders when it comes to policy

i also think she's sharper and better with details as far as implementation (with an exception being her proposed M4A funding, which is a less realistic plan than bernie's, imo)

We disagree about the significance of those differences.

[Reck]

My sauces tell me Bernie is beasting in VA

Nice call, bro. :tu

[spurraider21]

Virginia has been called for Biden :lmao
i tried, guys

[vy65]

Virginia has been called for Biden :lmao

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

Biden’s even going to pick up a delegate in Vermont. This is over.

Congrats moderates. Start brainstorming reasons for how this is actually Bernie’s fault when Biden shits his pants during the debates and loses to Trump.

[vy65]

My sauces tell me Bernie is beasting in VA

top 10 worst poster doing top 10 worst poster things ...

[Reck]

The struggle is real for Bernie with african american. Bloomberg is running even with him in VA.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Biden’s even going to pick up a delegate in Vermont. This is over.

Congrats moderates. Start brainstorming reasons for how this is actually Bernie’s fault when Biden shits his pants during the debates and loses to Trump.
Trump won’t debate Biden. Not a chance. Because he would get humiliated. He would rather face Sanders by a mile.

[Reck]

Biden’s even going to pick up a delegate in Vermont. This is over.

Congrats moderates. Start brainstorming reasons for how this is actually Bernie’s fault when Biden shits his pants during the debates and loses to Trump.

Now debates matter? Didn't matter last time, won't matter now.

[Spurtacular]

Trump won’t debate Biden. Not a chance. Because he would get humiliated. He would rather face Sanders by a mile.

0/10

[TimDunkem]

Biden’s even going to pick up a delegate in Vermont. This is over.

Congrats moderates. Start brainstorming reasons for how this is actually Bernie’s fault when Biden shits his pants during the debates and loses to Trump.

Chill. I mean, yeah, they're going to steal this at the convention, but Bernie is taking the majority of delegates tonight in all likelihood. Cali, Texas (although it might be damn competitive), OK, Mass, Maine, Minny, Utah, and Colorado are likely to go to Sanders. Hell, it's possible he pulls up an upset in Ark, and may be competitive in Tennessee. Let's not blow our loads either way. Still a long night ahead of us.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

0/10
Biden will beat Trump. Check the race in Texas with Trump and Biden hypothetical.

[TimDunkem]

Trump won’t debate Biden. Not a chance. Because he would get humiliated. He would rather face Sanders by a mile.

Politics aside...how? Biden is practically an alzheimers patient and literally can't speak.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Politics aside...how? Biden is practically an alzheimers patient and literally can't speak.
Biden leads Trump overall and check the race in Texas between the two. It’s dead close

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

[Will Hunting]

The struggle is real for Bernie with african american. Bloomberg is running even with him in VA.
He’s running against the architect of stop and frisk and another guy who was against integration but still lost out to both of them. He could have changed his name to Jamal and worn dashikis to every debate and it wouldn’t have made a difference.

[TimDunkem]

Biden leads Trump overall and check the race in Texas between the two. It’s dead close

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

Again, politics aside. Why wouldn't Trump want to DEBATE Joe? Joe is a stumbling, bumbling mess.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Trump will wipe the floor with Biden.
No sir. Biden will bring in more moderates and Independents,

check out the race in Texas. Within 5 Biden is. Biden leads Trump overall

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Again, politics aside. Why wouldn't Trump want to DEBATE Joe? Joe is a stumbling, bumbling mess.That doesn’t matter. Joe isn’t scared to stand up to Trump. Trump DOES NOT handle that well.

[Reck]

Warren already making her speech.

[Will Hunting]

Trump won’t debate Biden. Not a chance. Because he would get humiliated. He would rather face Sanders by a mile.
By the time Biden is debating Trump he’ll have another 6 months of constant travel and intense campaigning having worn him down. His brain will be a scrambled egg by then.

[Will Hunting]

Warren already making her speech.
She’s suspending her campaign?

[vy65]

Warren already making her speech.

What she say?

[TimDunkem]

By the time Biden is debating Trump he’ll have another 6 months of constant travel and intense campaigning having worn him down. His brain will be a scrambled egg by then.

It'll be a soup by then because Sleepy Joe's brain is already scrambled. :lol

[Reck]

Bernie is getting his shit pushed in so far. Biden wins NC.

[baseline bum]

No sir. Biden will bring in more moderates and Independents,

check out the race in Texas. Within 5 Biden is. Biden leads Trump overall

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

Just like Hillary did.

[Reck]

What she say?

They quickly turned her off. Couldn't hear.

[spurraider21]

She’s suspending her campaign?
biden 2020 tbh. she has put her ego before her principles

https://i.gyazo.com/60f1fbcdbb80357cba9f3fea89975536.png

[Sheriff Hoyt]

It'll be a soup by then because Sleepy Joe's brain is already scrambled. :lol
Trump will possibly be facing a declining economy. With an outbreak pandemic. He is most vulnerable and his brain isn’t exactly formidable.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie is getting his shit pushed in so far. Biden wins NC.
Bernie is clearly going to get trounced in the Southern States tonight (the fact we emphasize southern states so much in the primary is retarded). His only chance is if he does well everywhere else and still manages to win Texas.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

It'll be a soup by then because Sleepy Joe's brain is already scrambled. :lol
Trump will possibly be facing a declining economy. With an outbreak pandemic. He is most vulnerable and his brain isn’t exactly formidable.

[Spurtacular]

Biden will beat Trump. Check the race in Texas with Trump and Biden hypothetical.

Tell me about it.

[spurraider21]

north carolina immediately called for biden

hold your nose and vote against trump 2.0

[TimDunkem]

Trump will possibly be facing a declining economy. With an outbreak pandemic. He is most vulnerable and his brain isn’t exactly formidable.

Picking Joe splits the party. This talk of unity won't hold. Trump will win in 2020 if Joe is the candidate.

[Will Hunting]

Trump will possibly be facing a declining economy. With an outbreak pandemic. He is most vulnerable and his brain isn’t exactly formidable.
Compared to alzheimers Joe Trump is Albert fucking Einstein.

[hater]

north carolina immediately called for biden

hold your nose and vote against trump 2.0

nope

not voting for a 70 year old with anger issues and serious dementia tbqh

Id rather have 4 more years of the orangegutan

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Picking Joe splits the party. This talk of unity won't hold. Trump will win in 2020 if Joe is the candidate.
It doesn’t. Only Sanders cult would be upset just like they were with Hillary

[hater]

Compared to alzheimers Joe Trump is Albert fucking Einstein.

ma niga :tu

Biden wins this and Im back on the Trump train :tu

[Will Hunting]

nope

not voting for a 70 year old with anger issues and serious dementia tbqh

Id rather have 4 more years of the orangegutan
My vote couldn’t matter less than it does (I live in DC) so I probably won’t vote at all.

[baseline bum]

Ugh, what a fucking disaster. Four more years of our Dear Leader it is.

[Will Hunting]

It doesn’t. Only Sanders cult would be upset just like they were with Hillary
The Sanders cult is 30-35% of the party. Good luck winning elections with his “cult” feeling disenfranchised.

[hater]

My vote couldn’t matter less than it does (I live in DC) so I probably won’t vote at all.

me too

Id never vote for Orangegutan. but that does not mean Id vote for Corn Pops

[spurraider21]

not voting for a 70 year old with anger issues and serious dementia tbqh
so you're voting 3rd party?

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Compared to alzheimers Joe Trump is Albert fucking Einstein.
Bernie is too radical for the moderates and independents. He wouldn’t be able to bring them in. Joe can. And Joe will have Bloomberg’s vault of cash in his corner. Republicans are terrified of that.

[hater]

Ugh, what a fucking disaster. Four more years of our Dear Leader it is.

:tu

Trump

[TimDunkem]

nope

not voting for a 70 year old with anger issues and serious dementia tbqh

Id rather have 4 more years of the orangegutan

A lot of Bernie supporters feel this way. And, no, not just the "Bros". There was a large swath of voters that switched to Trump from Bernie after 2016. The same will happen again.


Sleepy Joe splits the party. It will be 2016 all over again if he is the nominee.

[hater]

so you're voting 3rd party?

nope just like in 16 Im not voting

but still early. Bernie can make a comeback and still end ip in the lead. but its bad

[baseline bum]

At least the presidential debates will be funny.

[vy65]

The Sanders cult is 30-35% of the party. Good luck winning elections with his “cult” feeling disenfranchised.

Bingo.

[TimDunkem]

Bernie is too radical for the moderates and independents. He wouldn’t be able to bring them in. Joe can. And Joe will have Bloomberg’s vault of cash in his corner. Republicans are terrified of that.

Those people would vote for Bernie reluctantly, but I don't believe Biden would get the same turnout from Bernie's side.

[Spurtacular]

Gabbard with zero narrative for weeks with the second place showing Alabama. I done told you stupid Chumpettes she was the one who could beat Trump.

But like good little Hillary lemmings you are you fought it.

:lmao #AlwaysWithHer

[vy65]

but still early. Bernie can make a comeback and still end ip in the lead. but its bad

55% vs. 24%

be:lolsting
h:lolterito

[spurraider21]

The Sanders cult is 30-35% of the party. Good luck winning elections with his “cult” feeling disenfranchised.
if biden wins the nomination outright, how is anybody "disenfranchised"

[Will Hunting]

Bernie is too radical for the moderates and independents. He wouldn’t be able to bring them in. Joe can. And Joe will have Bloomberg’s vault of cash in his corner. Republicans are terrified of that.
You mean the way Hillary brought in all those moderates and independents?

Regarding Bloomer, if beatjng Trump requires sell the Democratic Party to billionaire oligarchs who want to turn it into the Republican Party only with better gun control in order to get better campaign financing, we’ve already lost.

[baseline bum]

A lot of Bernie supporters feel this way. And, no, not just the "Bros". There was a large swath of voters that switched to Trump from Bernie after 2016. The same will happen again.


Sleepy Joe splits the party. It will be 2016 all over again if he is the nominee.

I'm not worried about crossover. Sanders crossover vote to Trump was pretty small in 2016. I'm just expecting people to think fuck both of these assholes and stay home, just like 2016.

[Reck]

American Samoa goes to Bloomberg. :lol

[TimDunkem]

It doesn’t. Only Sanders cult would be upset just like they were with Hillary

Damn...deja vu...It really is 2016 all over again. Hillary people said the same thing.

[hater]

55% vs. 24%

be:lolsting
h:lolterito

to be fair my biz partners live in North VA. its a complete different world from the rest of HickVA :lol

I should have known better :lol

[Spurtacular]

The Sanders cult is 30-35% of the party. Good luck winning elections with his “cult” feeling disenfranchised.

To say nothing of the fact that Creepy Joe doesn't offer much contrast. They might have been able to get behind Pocohantas; but that bitch badly misplayed her hand.

[spurraider21]

Gabbard with zero narrative for weeks with the second place showing Alabama. I done told you stupid Chumpettes she was the one who could beat Trump.

But like good little Hillary lemmings you are you fought it.

:lmao #AlwaysWithHer
you think she'll hang a banner for winning the 2nd place in the american samoa democratic primary championship?

[Sheriff Hoyt]

America Samoa?

[Will Hunting]

if biden wins the nomination outright, how is anybody "disenfranchised"
The media’s coverage of this race has been a joke, and the Klobuchar/Buttplug/Warren gamesmanship is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way.

[vy65]

to be fair my biz partners live in North VA. its a complete different world from the rest of HickVA :lol

I should have known better :lol

Oh, you mean the part of the state that Biden took?

:lmao

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/results-virginia-president-democrat-primary-election.html

[TimDunkem]

I'm not worried about crossover. Sanders crossover vote to Trump was pretty small in 2016. I'm just expecting people to think fuck both of these assholes and stay home, just like 2016.

It comes from the same place. Sanders supporters won't turn out for Joe when the establishment backing him is actively working together to keep him from the nomination and, in doing so, continue to keep them from feeling like their voices are being heard.

[Spurs Homer]

Tulsi with 29% of american samoa

[Spurtacular]

you think she'll hang a banner for winning the 2nd place in the alabama democratic primary championship?

You had one candidate who could tap into a broad net of voters and you blew it to be Hillary's bitches once again.

:lmao #AlwaysWithHer

[hater]

yeah Sanders supporters have a great memory

they dont forget 16 and wont forget what happened on March 2, 2020

[TimDunkem]

To say nothing of the fact that Creepy Joe doesn't offer much contrast. They might have been able to get behind Pocohantas; but that bitch badly misplayed her hand.

You're actually right on this. She had a message that resonated. The more she moved away from that the more she fell. She's a mess.

[Will Hunting]

To say nothing of the fact that Creepy Joe doesn't offer much contrast. They might have been able to get behind Pocohantas; but that bitch badly misplayed her hand.
No question. If anything Biden is more of a centrist corporate shill than Hillary was. Even someone like Klobuchar would have done a better job at appealing to the Bros than Biden does.

Just imagine a townhall 6 months from now after the primary is over when he gets a question from a BernieBro and says “Go vote for someone else!”

What Dems also don’t realize is that the black voters who care enough about politics to vote in the primary might be huge Biden supporters, but more disengaged black voters (most of them) need to be given a reason to vote. Hillary didn’t get good black turnout and Biden won’t either.

[Will Hunting]

Bingo.
?

[picnroll]

If Bernie bros aren’t going to vote for a centrist and centrist voters aren’t going to vote for Bernie everything else was just noise and Trump always had it in the bag. Trump greatest strength is that as stupid as he is democrats are even stupider.

[Reck]

Tulsi with 29% of american samoa

There's literally like 200 people that get to vote.

[spurraider21]

The media’s coverage of this race has been a joke, and the Klobuchar/Buttplug/Warren gamesmanship is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way.
yeah, thats not good enough to say you've been disenfranchised

[ChumpDumper]

No question. If anything Biden is more of a centrist corporate shill than Hillary was. Even someone like Klobuchar would have done a better job at appealing to the Bros than Biden does.

Just imagine a townhall 6 months from now after the primary is over when he gets a question from a BernieBro and says “Go vote for someone else!”

What Dems also don’t realize is that the black voters who care enough about politics to vote in the primary might be huge Biden supporters, but more disengaged black voters (most of them) need to be given a reason to vote. Hillary didn’t get good black turnout and Biden won’t either.

Blacks would turn out for Bernie? They aren't voting for him now when they are turning out.

[florige]

yeah Sanders supporters have a great memory

they dont forget 16 and wont forget what happened on March 2, 2020


Hard to believe Dem’s are this stupid again!

[Will Hunting]

Blacks would turn out for Bernie? They aren't voting for him now when they are turning out.
The difference between black turnout for Biden and black turnout for Bernie would be marginal imo, neither one is getting Obama-level black turnout.

[Reck]

The massive amount of butthurt over a couple of losses from Bernie is telling.

The way Trump wins is exactly by throwing a tamtrum and already saying I might not vote. Indeed, enjoy Trump through 2024. This also further emphasizes the Bernie my way or the highway approach by his supporters.

[ChumpDumper]

The difference between black turnout for Biden and black turnout for Bernie would be marginal imo, neither one is getting Obama-level black turnout.

Just more than 2016 would be great tbh.

[florige]

The massive amount of butthurt over a couple of losses from Bernie is telling.

The way Trump wins is exactly by throwing a tamtrum and already saying I might not vote. Indeed, enjoy Trump through 2024. This also further emphasizes the Bernie my way or the highway approach by his supporters.


I’m voting for whoever the dem candidate happens to be. I just have zero confidence Biden can beat Trump.

[vy65]

?

I was agreeing with you. The Bros aren't coming in to the fold.

[Reck]

Hard to believe Dem’s are this stupid again!

:lol I dont think blaming voter's choices is a good idea here. The burden is on Bernie to first of all get out his supporters to vote. Why is he polling so shitty with blacks? How is that the voter's fault? I'm confuse..

[baseline bum]

There's literally like 200 people that get to vote.

How about those 5 votes Warren got? Not joking. She got 5 fucking votes. :lol

[Will Hunting]

yeah, thats not good enough to say you've been disenfranchised
Disenfranchised is the wrong word. The obvious effort the Dem establishment made to favor Biden is more accurate. There’s a growing sentiment that the DNC cares more about maintaining the status quo than helping its constituents.

Itd be one thing if someone more progressive was the choice, but the fact they picked a candidate even closer to the center than Hillary was is going to be looked at as a fuck you to Bernie Bros.

[TimDunkem]

:lol I dont think blaming voter's choices is a good idea here. The burden is on Bernie to first of all get out his supporters to vote. Why is he polling so shitty with blacks? How is that the voter's fault? I'm confuse..

Because Biden has the Obama pull. If Biden wasn't in the race then you would see Bernie run away with it too. Bernie is winning the younger black voter, so it's at least trending his way.

[Will Hunting]

The massive amount of butthurt over a couple of losses from Bernie is telling.

The way Trump wins is exactly by throwing a tamtrum and already saying I might not vote. Indeed, enjoy Trump through 2024. This also further emphasizes the Bernie my way or the highway approach by his supporters.
Better start going the Bernie way then if the other way isn’t working.

[Spurtacular]

I could go vote in the California Dem primary; but I take no responsibility for whatever loser they pick. :lol

[Will Hunting]

:lol I dont think blaming voter's choices is a good idea here. The burden is on Bernie to first of all get out his supporters to vote. Why is he polling so shitty with blacks? How is that the voter's fault? I'm confuse..
What should Bernie have done differently with black voters? Be specific. His platform does significantly more for black voters than any of the other candidates’ platforms would and he doesn’t have the checkered past that Biden/Bloomer have on race.

[Spurminator]

The Bros will come around just like they did in 2016.

Bernie will campaign with Biden just like he did Clinton. And Biden will get hundreds of millions from Bloomberg.

If I'm Biden's camp my next big project is figuring out how to refuse all debates with Trump while spinning it as part of his "bring the country back together" message.

[picnroll]

The difference between black turnout for Biden and black turnout for Bernie would be marginal imo, neither one is getting Obama-level black turnout.

wtf

[TimDunkem]

Disenfranchised is the wrong word. The obvious effort the Dem establishment made to favor Biden is more accurate. There’s a growing sentiment that the DNC cares more about maintaining the status quo than helping its constituents.

Itd be one thing if someone more progressive was the choice, but the fact they picked a candidate even closer to the center than Hillary was is going to be looked at as a fuck you to Bernie Bros.

Bingo. It's why Warren was a legit contender until she moved away from her progressive values and attacked Bernie. Half of this party feels like their voices aren't being heard. This is why Trump was able to win and why Bernie likely would too if he didn't have the hand of the entire Democratic establishment weighing down upon him.

[Spurtacular]

Bingo. It's why Warren was a legit contender until she moved away from her progressive values and attacked Bernie.

Yea, she shouldn't have moved away from the values she stole from Bernie and attacked Bernie :tu

[Will Hunting]

The Bros will come around just like they did in 2016.

Bernie will campaign with Biden just like he did Clinton. And Biden will get hundreds of millions from Bloomberg.

If I'm Biden's camp my next big project is figuring out how to refuse all debates with Trump while spinning it as part of his "bring the country back together" message.
If Biden pulls a stunt where he avoids debates I’d vote for Trump and donate as much to his campaign as I’ve donated to Sanders.

The fact Dems don’t see the issues with a candidate who wants to avoid debates demonstrates how fucked up the party has gotten.

[Spurtacular]

The Bros will come around just like they did in 2016.

Bernie will campaign with Biden just like he did Clinton. And Biden will get hundreds of millions from Bloomberg.

If I'm Biden's camp my next big project is figuring out how to refuse all debates with Trump while spinning it as part of his "bring the country back together" message.

:lmao America gonna rally for the chicken.
:lmao Lambert

[Spurtacular]

The fact Dems don’t see the issues with a candidate who wants to avoid debates demonstrates how fucked up the party has gotten.

Betas don't see the point in debates.

[picnroll]

Centrist votes were split so Bernie took primaries, usually by far less than 50%. Now there’s one centrist candidate and Bernie’s losing while bros whine that it’s a conspiracy.

[Reck]

What should Bernie have done differently with black voters? Be specific. His platform does significantly more for black voters than any of the other candidates’ platforms would and he doesn’t have the checkered past that Biden/Bloomer have on race.

I dont know. Cant answer that as I am not black and cant speak for them.

I'm just speaking in general terms about individual voters. I dont think blaming voters because they decided to go the other way is somehow a fault.

[Will Hunting]

I dont think blaming voters because they decided to go the other way is somehow a fault.
Hillary and mainstream Democrats have been doing it for 3+ years now.

[Spurminator]

If Biden pulls a stunt where he avoids debates I’d vote for Trump and donate as much to his campaign as I’ve donated to Sanders.

The fact Dems don’t see the issues with a candidate who wants to avoid debates demonstrates how fucked up the party has gotten.

I'm not saying I'd support it, I'm saying it would be a good strategy. Debates won't be a strength for him, and I don't think most people will care.

LOL at putting so much importance on that theatrical bullshit anyway. You'd seriously donate to Trump over the fucking debates? :lol

If that's all it would take I'm starting to think you're just reaching for an excuse to vote for Trump regardless, tbh.

[TimDunkem]

Biden picking up all the states most thought he would. I don't see reason for the Bros to grab their torches just yet. Once things move West, things will calm down.

Very possible Bernie runs the table everywhere else except Tennessee although it could be competitive there.

[Trill Clinton]

Fuck this. Biden retarded ass was is really going to pull this off smh.

[florige]

:lol I dont think blaming voter's choices is a good idea here. The burden is on Bernie to first of all get out his supporters to vote. Why is he polling so shitty with blacks? How is that the voter's fault? I'm confuse..


Biden is still running ads with Obama. Biden inspires no one to get
Out and vote and that was Hillary’s problem she had. We are literally running the same candidate we did in 2016. I wasn’t necessarily blaming the voters. I’m saying the candidates who dropped out last night and all of the sudden just magically backed Biden all in the same night right before Super Tuesday. It almost looks as it was preplanned to screw Bernie. Here again I’m not a Bernie diehard it’s just how it looks.

[TimDunkem]

Fuck this. Biden retarded ass was is really going to pull this off smh.

Bernie does better in the Northeast, Midwest, and Western states. The night is far from over, but Sleepy Joe definitely isn't going anywhere.

[Will Hunting]

I'm not saying I'd support it, I'm saying it would be a good strategy. Debates won't be a strength for him.

But LOL at putting so much importance on that theatrical bullshit anyway. You'd seriously donate to Trump over the fucking debates? :lol

If that's all it would take I'm starting to think you're just reaching for an excuse to vote for Trump regardless, tbh.
It’s not theatrical bullshit, if Biden doesn’t have the mental wherewithal to do a few fucking debates the Dems shouldn’t have nominated him to be president. Doing something as unprecedented as refusing to debate is basically an admission he’d get pummeled if he did one with the hope that Biden would be able to effectively trick the American people into overlooking his dementia and voting for him.

Its effectively the same thing they did with Palin 12 years ago when they tried at all costs to avoid interviews. I guess when it’s a Dem it’s ok though.

[Reck]

Shocked Massachussets didn't get called for Bernie right off the bat. Too early to call and there seems to be a 3-way tie.

Now that we're getting to the more liberal parts of the map, I'm interested to see the reaction.

[Spurminator]

Biden is still running ads with Obama. Biden inspires no one to get
Out and vote and that was Hillary’s problem she had. We are literally running the same candidate we did in 2016. I wasn’t necessarily blaming the voters. I’m saying the candidates who dropped out last night and all of the sudden just magically backed Biden all in the same night right before Super Tuesday. It almost looks as it was preplanned to screw Bernie. Here again I’m not a Bernie diehard it’s just how it looks.

Why is consolidating candidates an effort to screw anyone? You really think it's a better system where someone gets their party's nomination with around 1/3rd of the total vote because of the number of candidates?

[vy65]

JoeBi and Bernie basically tied in Texas per Google.

[vy65]

And lol Tennessee

[picnroll]

Any bros complaining Bernie trying to buy the nomination having far outspent Biden, particularly in the super Tuesday elections.

[Spurminator]

It’s not theatrical bullshit, if Biden doesn’t have the mental wherewithal to do a few fucking debates the Dems shouldn’t have nominated him to be president. Doing something as unprecedented as refusing to debate is basically an admission he’d get pummeled if he did one with the hope that Biden would be able to effectively trick the American people into overlooking his dementia and voting for him.

Its effectively the same thing they did with Palin 12 years ago when they tried at all costs to avoid interviews. I guess when it’s a Dem it’s ok though.

The debates are a series of dumbed-down platitudes, canned one liners and retarded zingers. It's an excuse for the media to cover theatrics instead of policy. They're absolutely useless in the current format and I don't think participation in them is a necessary step to be considered Presidential.

But relax, he's not going to avoid the debates.

[spurraider21]

Shocked Massachussets didn't get called for Bernie right off the bat. Too early to call and there seems to be a 3-way tie.

Now that we're getting to the more liberal parts of the map, I'm interested to see the reaction.
i didnt blame warren for staying through super tuesday, but with the avalanche of news leading up to today, with pete suspending, amy suspending, both of them + beto endorsing... i think that should have been her queue. now she's just in to get vanity votes. such a disappointing heel turn

[Reck]

JoeBi and Bernie basically tied in Texas per Google.

Early votes. Buttigieg has 14k. :lol

[spurraider21]

Any bros complaining Bernie trying to buy the nomination having far outspent Biden, particularly in the super Tuesday elections.
i think the distinction is being drawn when the money is raised with small individual donations, vs billionaires like bloomberg and steyer pounding hundreds of millions of their own money

[Will Hunting]

Why is consolidating candidates an effort to screw anyone? You really think it's a better system where someone gets their party's nomination with around 1/3rd of the total vote because of the number of candidates?
Staging it the way they did is what I have an issue with. Were Pete and Any both really so stunned by how badly they did in South Carolina that it was what caused them to drop out?

[florige]

Why is consolidating candidates an effort to screw anyone? You really think it's a better system where someone gets their party's nomination with around 1/3rd of the total vote because of the number of candidates?


I have no real problem with them dropping out. Eventually that was going to happen. Just for them to drop out and immediately back Biden the day before Super Tuesday to me looked a bit shady or they were looking to do whatever they could to boost Biden’s dying campaign.

[TimDunkem]

As soon as some of these results came in, Joe looked good but Bernie is coming up big right now. Currently leading in Texas.

[vy65]

Nate Cohn, in New York 3m ago

Biden now favored to win the most delegates tonight, according to our estimates, and we're pretty cautious about letting the results in one place dictate another

[picnroll]

Staging it the way they did is what I have an issue with. Were Pete and Any both really so stunned by how badly they did in South Carolina that it was what caused them to drop out?
Yeah. It was a conspiracy. Perfectly timed by Biden and the centrist so they wouldn't have time or money or early votes for super Tuesday. Brilliant fuckin observation.

[vy65]

Liz in second place in TX???

[TimDunkem]

Nate Cohn, in New York 3m ago

Biden now favored to win the most delegates tonight, according to our estimates, and we're pretty cautious about letting the results in one place dictate another

Too early to say. Some states are still voting.

[RandomGuy]

Staging it the way they did is what I have an issue with. Were Pete and Any both really so stunned by how badly they did in South Carolina that it was what caused them to drop out?

guessing it had a lot to do with money, and stopping sanders.

[spurraider21]

Liz in second place in TX???
fucking bernie good tbh

[vy65]

fucking bernie good tbh

She is into that BDSM shit you know

[Will Hunting]

Time to go put some money on Trump to win re-election.

[Will Hunting]

Time to go put some money on Trump to win re-election.
Well never mind, those odds fucking blow.

[boutons_deux]

a couple % in, Biden way out front in AL and MA

[vy65]

You gotta wonder if the 'ole gal is gonna stick it to Bernie in Cali too ...

[TimDunkem]

a couple % in, Biden way out front in AL and MA

Bernie winning Maine now. Coming in close in Tenn and OK as of right now. Running away with it in Texas.

[Reck]

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/3/21156481/super-tuesday-live-results

Again these guys are way ahead of the TV heads.

[Will Hunting]

It’s going to be bad for Bernie everywhere. The only way he comes back in this race is if Biden has an incredibly stupid moment between now and the convention that makes everyone realize he can’t be president in which case they’ll likely hand Warren a brokered convention which id be OK with.

[Reck]

Bernie winning Maine now. Coming in close in Tenn and OK as of right now. Running away with it in Texas.

200 votes ahead is running way ahead?

[TimDunkem]

200 votes ahead is running way ahead?

My tracker says 31k ahead.

[Reck]

My tracker says 31k ahead.

How much votes is yours showing? Mine has it at 54k apiece.

[TimDunkem]

How much votes is yours showing? Mine has it at 54k apiece.

132k Bernie, Warren in second with Biden at around 100k a piece. Shame that Warren won't come to her senses and back Bernie. He could've blown the state out.

[florige]

It’s going to be bad for Bernie everywhere. The only way he comes back in this race is if Biden has an incredibly stupid moment between now and the convention that makes everyone realize he can’t be president in which case they’ll likely hand Warren a brokered convention which id be OK with.


I’d be ok with that as well. Biden is a goof and would all but guarantee Trump re-election

[DarrinS]

It’s going to be bad for Bernie everywhere. The only way he comes back in this race is if Biden has an incredibly stupid moment between now and the convention that makes everyone realize he can’t be president in which case they’ll likely hand Warren a brokered convention which id be OK with.


:lol

[Will Hunting]

Jesus if Bloomer wasn’t in the race Biden would basically have it won tonight.

[TimDunkem]

Bernie closing the gap in Mass.

[TimDunkem]

Can Boomerberg steal Tennessee from Sleepy Joe? Nearly a tie there between them with Bernie not far behind.

Edit: Boomer is leading there now. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Warren and Bernie nearly tied for first in Mass.

[Will Hunting]

We might have overreacted to NC and Virginia but not optimistic.

If Bernie holds on to Texas the night isn’t a complete loss for him.

[TimDunkem]

We might have overreacted to NC and Virginia but not optimistic.

If Bernie holds on to Texas the night isn’t a complete loss for him.

You can pencil him in for Cali, Colorado, and Utah. The only question is how much he'll run it up there. Not all is lost.

[Reck]

Warren and Bernie nearly tied for first in Mass.

Not good for Sanders. He was expected to win it outright.

[Will Hunting]

You can pencil him in for Cali, Colorado, and Utah. The only question is how much he'll run it up there. Not all is lost.
I don’t think he needs a big win in Texas moreso than just a win to show momentum and to keep getting funding.

If he’s able to run up the score in California and win Texas it’s obviously very much a race.

[TimDunkem]

Not good for Sanders. He wasn expected to win it outright.

She's definitely fucking him in Mass while Bloomberg fucks Sleepy in Tenn.

[spurraider21]

We might have overreacted to NC and Virginia but not optimistic.

If Bernie holds on to Texas the night isn’t a complete loss for him.
the margin in NC isn't that big... which certainly wasn't the impression we got when they immediately called it after polls closed

[spurraider21]

boomerberg and warren are such trolls

[TimDunkem]

I don’t think he needs a big win in Texas moreso than just a win to show momentum and to keep getting funding.

If he’s able to run up the score in California and win Texas it’s obviously very much a race.

I'm waiting for Minny as well. If he can win there too, it'll be big.

[TimDunkem]

Bernie leading in Old Tennessee. :wow

[Will Hunting]

It is unreal how close Texas is.

[TimDunkem]

Bernie ahead in Mass, Tenn, and tied in Maine now.

[Pelicans78]

My sauces tell me Bernie is beasting in VA

You have the same sauces as Chris Broussard.

[TimDunkem]

It is unreal how close Texas is.

Bernie is ahead by 44k. I'm more surprised that Warren did so well. She needs to drop out and decide if she is really a progressive.

[boutons_deux]

Liz in second place in TX???

is there maybe a real Blue Wave in TX?

Shitbag TX Repugs have closed 100s voting sites

[TimDunkem]

is there maybe a real Blue Wave in TX?

Shitbag TX Repugs have closed 100s voting sites

Texas could be blue by now if it weren't for the Republican cheating, tbh.

[baseline bum]

Bernie is ahead by 44k. I'm more surprised that Warren did so well. She needs to drop out and decide if she is really a progressive.

Where are you getting updates?

[TimDunkem]

Where are you getting updates?

AP updates via Google.

[TimDunkem]

Would be shocked if CO isn't called for Bernie outright at 8.

[spurraider21]

im just looking at the AP results on the google home page... seem to be as good as anything else. otherwise politico has an easy to read chart

[TimDunkem]

im just looking at the AP results on the google home page... seem to be as good as anything else. otherwise politico has an easy to read chart

A lot of these races are so close. Boomer and Warren fucking Sleepy and Bernie for sure.

[spurraider21]

I don’t think he needs a big win in Texas moreso than just a win to show momentum and to keep getting funding.

If he’s able to run up the score in California and win Texas it’s obviously very much a race.


the margin in NC isn't that big... which certainly wasn't the impression we got when they immediately called it after polls closed
eh, NC gap starting to widen

[TimDunkem]

Sanders wins CO as expected.

[Reck]

The baked in early vote fucked Biden good. He's going to have to outperform everyone by a wide margin.

[TimDunkem]

The baked in early vote fucked Biden good. He's going to have to outperform everyone by a wide margin.

After tonight, we'll see basically an even split between Biden and Bernie going forward.

[InRareForm]

Biden is -240 favorite to get democrat nomination now (bovada)

[Will Hunting]

eh, NC gap starting to widen
Most of Mecklenberg County hasn’t reported yet iirc, that could widen it for Biden.