2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[Proxy]

Force?

Obama is probably waiting for the nomination process like last time.

was expecting him to speak against Sanders around the time Hillary did tbh

[spurraider21]

its an absurd, archaic system designed for a time where voters didnt have access to information. i mean how much info would the average iowa citizen have had 150 years ago about a field of random candidates from all over the country... not much. a caucus would allow for that exchange of information, debate, etc.

shits outdated as hell, and the math required to get to delegates is beyond reason. a system where you could have the most votes in the 1st count AND final count and then still not get the most delegates is ass

:cry precinct rights! :cry

[spurraider21]

nail-biter

https://i.gyazo.com/c5ca4fba8302b05b9101fa114d367964.png

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/d2ec44dbdc3e84899cd4489fa64ec7d2.png

https://i.gyazo.com/c08ebbbfe645f8dd4bb04f740ad6224a.png

[spurraider21]

from the official iowa dem caucus results page

https://i.gyazo.com/4a9561857ca20dcdfafba7e2b007306d.png

while most counties already have 100% reporting... there is one satellite county that has 0% reporting. sanders has had huge wins in 3 of the other 4 satellite counties. if the last one follows, he probably takes the lead. though with how close they are, pretty good chance sanders and bootyjudge walk away with the same number of national delegates

[Reck]

from the official iowa dem caucus results page

https://i.gyazo.com/4a9561857ca20dcdfafba7e2b007306d.png

while most counties already have 100% reporting... there is one satellite county that has 0% reporting. sanders has had huge wins in 3 of the other 4 satellite counties. if the last one follows, he probably takes the lead. though with how close they are, pretty good chance sanders and bootyjudge walk away with the same number of national delegates

So is Biden (lol) going to get delegates or what? I thought people who meet a 15% threshold get at least some? Pretty shitty of Iowa to release these numbers at midnight.

[spurraider21]

So is Biden (lol) going to get delegates or what? I thought people who meet a 15% threshold get at least some? Pretty shitty of Iowa to release these numbers at midnight.
its a really complicated/stupid system

within each precinct you have to get 15% to be viable and be awarded the "SDEs" (state delegate equivalents). there are multiple precincts in each county. precinct being the actual gathering location.

and then based on how many SDE's you have at the end of the state-wide tally, they then, by proportion, assign the 41 national delegates. so if you are within a small handful of SDE's of one another, you most likely will have the same number of national delegates. so until we have 100% reporting, they aren't going to announce formally how many pledged national delegates anyone has. thats why the right column is all zeros right now

[Reck]

its a really complicated/stupid system

within each precinct you have to get 15% to be viable and be awarded the "SDEs" (state delegate equivalents). there are multiple precincts in each county. precinct being the actual gathering location.

and then based on how many SDE's you have at the end of the state-wide tally, they then, by proportion, assign the 41 national delegates. so if you are within a small handful of SDE's of one another, you most likely will have the same number of national delegates. so until we have 100% reporting, they aren't going to announce formally how many pledged national delegates anyone has. thats why the right column is all zeros right now

Just wondering because if you google Iowa caucus results you get a page with a list of delegates rewarded thus far. Sanders and Pete have 11 apiece. Warren has 5 and Biden 0 and so on.

[spurraider21]

Just wondering because if you google Iowa caucus results you get a page with a list of delegates rewarded thus far. Sanders and Pete have 11 apiece. Warren has 5 and Biden 0 and so on.
those are estimates tbh, as far as i understand. ultimately depends on how the numbers finish. iowa usually announces those later

[SnakeBoy]

Has Tulsi dropped out yet?

[spurraider21]

Has Tulsi dropped out yet?
i sure hope not. what are the Tulcels going to do if she's not running?

[Spurtacular]

i sure hope not. what are the Tulcels going to do if she's not running?

Watch her numbers explode in NH without the electronic cheats in effect.

[Reck]

Watch her numbers explode in NH without the electronic cheats in effect.

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

If they don't it'll be because of the submission results that have cast her out.

Hillary's people own your ass, tranny.

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/abbymartin/status/1225312727796596737?s=21

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/abbymartin/status/1225312727796596737?s=21

Rig card already?

[Ball Buster]

Rig card already?

Dude...

[Proxy]

Obama is probably waiting to see who emerges between them with the idea that his endorsement will get that person past Bernie. It’s too early for Obama to pick a horse, especially since Biden is sunk the minute Obama endorses anyone other than him.

I'd assume best chance for his endorsement would be for Warren going into super tuesday tbh since Pete legit has no POC vote. On the ground, Klobuchar took a chunk of Liz's votes, the Hillary morons split themselves

Especially now that results are out that Bernie won the Iowa popular vote handily and most likely the SDEs once the 1A-1 tally comes in

Guess they're really hoping Bloomberg cuts into the momentum. If Biden loses SC and has to drop out, who knows where his base moves to

[Proxy]

Rig card already?

I mean, you see Pete having money ties to the phone app, and the DNC releasing info portions at a time to make it look like Bernie lost til now... people on the ground knew Bernie won since the night of the caucus, then we see plenty of discrepancies in the final count.

Fuckin LOL at someone having to spot Bernie points being given to Deval Patrick of all people

Doesn't feel unwarranted to call that bs as something coordinated when you look at it all as a whole

[Proxy]

Would be a smart move for progressive Warren supporters, Yang supporters, and Tulsi supporters to vote bernie from here on out

[Reck]

If Biden loses SC and has to drop out, who knows where his base moves to

That seems almost impossible given how badly he got them black voters bent over.

I dont think that's his problem right now anyways. He's not going to win NH to begin with but now he does need a second place more than ever. If he places 4th or 5th again, no more mulligans. After NH we have another caucus. That might be the end of him if he doesn't do well in NH.

[ChumpDumper]

Would be a smart move for progressive Warren supporters, Yang supporters, and Tulsi supporters to vote bernie from here on outDepends on whether you espouse an actual political agenda or if you just want to subscribe to a cult of personality.

[Spurtacular]

Depends on whether you espouse an actual political agenda or if you just want to subscribe to a cult of personality.

Bernie doesn't have an actual political agenda?

[boutons_deux]

Repug Dirty Tricks and eternal Bad Faith, Cheating, their trademark, even without Stone, Atwater, Ailes, etc.

Iowa Democrats say Trump supporters tried to sabotage Monday's caucus backup plan (https://theweek.com/speedreads/894100/iowa-democrats-say-trump-supporters-tried-sabotage-mondays-caucus-backup-plan)

supporters of President Trump had flooded a hotline set up for local precincts to report their results in case a new vote-reporting app (https://theweek.com/speedreads/893609/iowa-democratic-party-says-there-coding-issue-caucus-app--which-nevada-also-intends-use) failed, as it did (https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/02/05/iowa-caucus-app-rejected-database/4672132002/).

Precinct chairs waited on hold for long periods of time (https://theweek.com/speedreads/893500/iowas-democratic-party-hung-precinct-secretary-live-cnn), and some gave up.

Sagar said on the call that he was manning the hotline Monday night and

many of the people who got through expressed support for Trump, two participants told Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-06/trump-fans-flooded-iowa-caucus-hotline-top-democrat-says).

The Trump backers got the hotline number from photos of caucus paperwork posted online, one person on the call said.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/894100/iowa-democrats-say-trump-supporters-tried-sabotage-mondays-caucus-backup-plan (https://theweek.com/speedreads/894100/iowa-democrats-say-trump-supporters-tried-sabotage-mondays-caucus-backup-plan)

[TheGreatYacht]

https://youtu.be/VX4_RyfedBU

[Proxy]

Depends on whether you espouse an actual political agenda or if you just want to subscribe to a cult of personality.

Is raising a modest tax on the super elites to pay for the working class policies a cult of personality? That sounds like more of an agenda than Warren waffling between centrist and left stances and crying sexism. Yang and Tulsi have no shot

[Proxy]

That seems almost impossible given how badly he got them black voters bent over.

I dont think that's his problem right now anyways. He's not going to win NH to begin with but now he does need a second place more than ever. If he places 4th or 5th again, no more mulligans. After NH we have another caucus. That might be the end of him if he doesn't do well in NH.

good point, we'll see what happens

[spurraider21]

Now, NOW Tom Perez calls for then to recanvass

[spurraider21]

Just fuck up in every way possible to make the Repubicans look sensible.
yep. still happening. i couldn't imagine a worse way to handle this than they have. and the way they're doing it is only feeding the conspiracy theories. they're creating the worst possible narrative

[ChumpDumper]

Is raising a modest tax on the super elites to pay for the working class policies a cult of personality? That sounds like more of an agenda than Warren waffling between centrist and left stances and crying sexism. Yang and Tulsi have no shotI think a lot of people get emotionally attached to a candidate and, conversely repelled by others. That's why Trump is going to win in November. I will love it if the Democrats prove me wrong and I will vote for any candidate they put up-- but just look at this board as a microcosm of the party and you can see why we are going to lose.

[spurraider21]

I think a lot of people get emotionally attached to a candidate and, conversely repelled by others.


It worked for Trump.

[ChumpDumper]

If you want to follow the Trump model of duping rubes, be my guest.

[spurraider21]

If you want to follow the Trump model of duping rubes, be my guest.
i just wanted to be snarky for a minute

[ChumpDumper]

i just wanted to be snarky for a minuteI'm going to be snarky for eight months, then probably forever.

[spurraider21]

I'm going to be snarky for eight months, then probably forever.
i think if the party is concerned that disgruntled berniebros are going to fuck them over, then maybe they should stop doing everything in their power to give those people reasons to believe that the party is out to get their guy

[ChumpDumper]

i think if the party is concerned that disgruntled berniebros are going to fuck them over, then maybe they should stop doing everything in their power to give those people reasons to believe that the party is out to get their guyProbably. I look forward to the debates where Bernie tries to say "I'm not a socialist but a democratic socialist but not like the democratic socialist who actually belong to the Democratic Socialist party but more like social democrats who aren't a party but I'm independent not a Democrat but I'm running as a Democrat think of me as an independent democratic socialist social democrat see it's simple!"

[spurraider21]

Probably. I look forward to the debates where Bernie tries to say "I'm not a socialist but a democratic socialist but not like the democratic socialist who actually belong to the Democratic Socialist party but more like social democrats who aren't a party but I'm independent see it's simple!"
det not so subtle topic switch :lol

that sounds more like how a socialist version of joe biden or donald trump would respond

[ChumpDumper]

det not so subtle topic switch :lolWas just on my mind. I think Berniebros will cry conspiracy no matter what. Even if he wins. That's politics today.

[Ball Buster]

Probably. I look forward to the debates where Bernie tries to say "I'm not a socialist but a democratic socialist but not like the democratic socialist who actually belong to the Democratic Socialist party but more like social democrats who aren't a party but I'm independent not a Democrat but I'm running as a Democrat think of me as an independent democratic socialist social democrat see it's simple!"

I look forward to the establishment wing of the Democratic Party getting their shit pushed in.

[spurraider21]

Was just on my mind. I think Berniebros will cry conspiracy no matter what. Even if he wins. That's politics today.
i agree that there is a block of them that certainly would. i think the iowa dems and DNC have basically been pouring gasoline vis-a-vis the iowa caucus results

[ChumpDumper]

i agree that there is a block of them that certainly would. i think the iowa dems and DNC have basically been pouring gasoline vis-a-vis the iowa caucus resultsAside from learning old rubes can't use smartphones, I think people are learning what a clusterfuck caucuses are in the first place and if IA wants to keep this one shred of relevance they'll reform this stupid system.

[spurraider21]

Aside from learning old rubes can't use smartphones, I think people are learning what a clusterfuck caucuses are in the first place and if IA wants to keep this one shred of relevance they'll reform this stupid system.
its not just the app issue... its the way they've been slow-rolling the results, now stopping at 97%, etc. there were also some actual discrepancies in the results that the NYT wrote about this morning

and then if you are going to slow-roll your results for the purpose of integrity and accuracy, how do you go about doing this... https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/02/05/iowa-democratic-party-reports-iowa-caucus-results-with-errors/4672474002/

[Thread]

its not just the app issue... its the way they've been slow-rolling the results, now stopping at 97%, etc. there were also some actual discrepancies in the results that the NYT wrote about this morning

and then if you are going to slow-roll your results for the purpose of integrity and accuracy, how do you go about doing this... https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/02/05/iowa-democratic-party-reports-iowa-caucus-results-with-errors/4672474002/

They're going to re canvass, aka recount it.

[spurraider21]

They're going to re canvass, aka recount it.
and they waited until 97% of the results were released to do so. should have done it much earlier, as the issues were well known all along.

[spurraider21]

im actually not seeing anything official about a recanvass happening. i know tom perez called for it, but he cant unilaterally do that. the iowa democratic party calls the shots, not the national committee. they released a statement today saying that they are still working on finishing their results (lol 3%) and that a candidate can request a recanvass which they will then consider

https://www.thecaucuses.org/statement-feb-6-2020

[Proxy]

I think a lot of people get emotionally attached to a candidate and, conversely repelled by others. That's why Trump is going to win in November. I will love it if the Democrats prove me wrong and I will vote for any candidate they put up-- but just look at this board as a microcosm of the party and you can see why we are going to lose.

Worried about the same thing, and Id never advocate for any action that gets Trump reelcted. That's a serious thing to face when the time comes.

It's wrong to blame the voters for something that's been orchestrated by the party though. But to your point, a lot of them don't know that. The biggest group to lose would be Bernie's base. If he doesn't win, I think Trump gets reelected. Impeachment gave the GOP and Trump their best fundraising period, he's all set to go at whoever. DNC is set to stop their anti establishment candidate even though he has the base to win. I think he'll pull if off though.

[Will Hunting]

I think a lot of people get emotionally attached to a candidate and, conversely repelled by others. That's why Trump is going to win in November. I will love it if the Democrats prove me wrong and I will vote for any candidate they put up-- but just look at this board as a microcosm of the party and you can see why we are going to lose.
I used to think this but I don’t see it after Trump was able to get through an extremely contentious 2016 primary and win vs a candidate who, despite her bitching and moaning about how hard the 2016 primary was, was about as close as a non-incumbent candidate could get to running in an uncontested presidential primary.

If the Ted Cruz supporters were still able to show up for Trump after Trump called Cruz’s wife an ugly dog or whatever then Biden supporters will get over it if Sanders wins.

[ChumpDumper]

I used to think this but I don’t see it after Trump was able to get through an extremely contentious 2016 primary and win vs a candidate who, despite her bitching and moaning about how hard the 2016 primary was, was about as close as a non-incumbent candidate could get to running in an uncontested presidential primary.

If the Ted Cruz supporters were still able to show up for Trump after Trump called Cruz’s wife an ugly dog or whatever then Biden supporters will get over it if Sanders wins.I wouldn't worry about those as much as independents and old people who will never vote for an avowed socialist.

[Proxy]

Perez is getting his shit packed in

Bernie gets $25m in January alone, 6k more votes in Iowa than Pete

[koriwhat]

WHO CARES?! FUCK 'EM ALL!

https://pics.onsizzle.com/hahahahaha-ahaha-hahaha-hahahaha-7191871.png

[ChumpDumper]

:lol kori's just melting down everywhere for no reason

[spurraider21]

:lol kori's just melting down everywhere for no reason
willard really got to him

[ChumpDumper]

willard really got to himBIPARTISAN CONVICTION VOTE

[spurraider21]

BIPARTISAN CONVICTION VOTE
for the first time in history! another trump record :tu

[DMC]

:lol Romney good now

[TSA]

Spurs Homer has found his candidate

BLOOMBERG PLAGIARIZED PARTS OF AT LEAST EIGHT OF HIS PLANS

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/06/mike-bloomberg-campaign-plagiarization/

[ChumpDumper]

TSA clutching dem pearls

[ducks]

FiveThirtyEight: Sanders Has 50/50 Shot at Dem Nomination

[DMC]

Spurs Homer has found his candidate

BLOOMBERG PLAGIARIZED PARTS OF AT LEAST EIGHT OF HIS PLANS

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/06/mike-bloomberg-campaign-plagiarization/

In two examples he plagiarized himself?

[spurraider21]

1225857368250101760

[spurraider21]

whats also crazy is this is the first time iowa also tracked and made available the popular vote figures. would have been impossible in previous years to know if there were mistakes

[ChumpDumper]

A lot of those results can never be resolved because the rubes fucked up the initial counts right off the bat. Hopefully kills the caucus once and for all.

[spurraider21]

A lot of those results can never be resolved because the rubes fucked up the initial counts right off the bat. Hopefully kills the caucus once and for all.
while i think a ranked choice primary is the way to go, if they want to have a caucus, so be it, but dump the SDE bullshit. you can still keep all your traditional rules with viability/realignment

at the end of the 2nd vote, you just tally the votes of all the viable candidates, and report those raw figures. thats it.

[ChumpDumper]

while i think a ranked choice primary is the way to go, if they want to have a caucus, so be it, but dump the SDE bullshit. you can still keep all your traditional rules with viability/realignment

at the end of the 2nd vote, you just tally the votes of all the viable candidates, and report those raw figures. thats it.Nah, they can't even get the first vote right or follow the rules after it. One vote, ranked or single. Rube errors eliminated.

[Reck]

Just make it a primary next cycle.

What's funny is that Bernie would have won no questions about it but he had to bitch about the way this was done in 2016 and surprise, it backfired and he still lost.

[spurraider21]

NBC/AP/NYT have all refused to call the caucus either way, citing the remaining inconsistencies and the close margin as making it too close to call

[GB20]

:lol Romney good now

At least his head is not on a pike like the rest of the Republican party.

[Will Hunting]

while i think a ranked choice primary is the way to go, if they want to have a caucus, so be it, but dump the SDE bullshit. you can still keep all your traditional rules with viability/realignment

at the end of the 2nd vote, you just tally the votes of all the viable candidates, and report those raw figures. thats it.
I don’t trust the mongoloids running this thing to count the raw vote correctly :lol

[Reck]

NBC/AP/NYT have all refused to call the caucus either way, citing the remaining inconsistencies and the close margin as making it too close to call

Well the state party sure has called it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-elections/buttigieg-narrowly-wins-iowa-caucuses-state-party-results-idUSKBN2002JS

:lol farmers

[spurraider21]

Nah, they can't even get the first vote right or follow the rules after it. One vote, ranked or single. Rube errors eliminated.
i mean, i specifically said a primary is the way to go... but IF they insist on keeping the caucus, they should at least simplify it

[ChumpDumper]

i mean, i specifically said a primary is the way to go... but IF they insist on keeping the caucus, they should at least simplify itI don't have any faith in the rubes.

[spurraider21]

Well the state party sure has called it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-elections/buttigieg-narrowly-wins-iowa-caucuses-state-party-results-idUSKBN2002JS

:lol farmers
look at post #310 though... the state party chair has said they are going to give the candidates time to report inconsistencies and seek recanvassing. im pretty sure the sanders campaign already put out a press release reflecting a bunch they discovered

[Will Hunting]

As ridiculous as the conspiracy chatter might be, the Democrat Party really is leaning into it. The amount of inconsistencies and errors that favor Buttplug vs other candidates are at the very least a statistical anomaly.

[DMC]

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/democratic-presidential-candidate-senator-elizabeth-warren-news-photo-1581093686.jpg

:lmao Bernie Bros

[spurraider21]

ok

[Reck]

look at post #310 though... the state party chair has said they are going to give the candidates time to report inconsistencies and seek recanvassing. im pretty sure the sanders campaign already put out a press release reflecting a bunch they discovered

Sanders said only in a few parts though. No one wants to pay for a full recanvass. They need to just move on. Virtual tie is good for the top 2. Biden and the rest of the people running know they lost badly so reaffirming the loss does them no good at this point.

[Will Hunting]

Sanders said only in a few parts though. No one wants to pay for a full recanvass. They need to just move on. Virtual tie is good for the top 2. Biden and the rest of the people running know they lost badly so reaffirming the loss does them no good at this point.
Agreed with the Sanders part...he won the popular vote and he’s likely going to be tied with Buttplug on national delegates received from the state, which for all intents and purposes is a victory especially given how bad Biden did. Hed be foolish to dwell on this rather than focus on mopping the floor in New Hampshire and having that become the story people talk about.

[spurraider21]

Agreed with the Sanders part...he won the popular vote and he’s likely going to be tied with Buttplug on national delegates received from the state, which for all intents and purposes is a victory especially given how bad Biden did. Hed be foolish to dwell on this rather than focus on mopping the floor in New Hampshire and having that become the story people talk about.
yeah. even if bernie gets all the changes he wants (and thats not considering other changes that could cost him some SDEs here and there).... all things considered they're likely going to tie in national delegates anyway. bernie can continue touting his popular vote win as the "tiebreaker"

[spurraider21]

why iowa matters despite not being among the most populated states

https://i.gyazo.com/0610c8d9a5200a72793e9c7f3735e1f4.png

[Spurtacular]

^^^ NH ^^^

Tulsi jumped up and Buttplug went way down without an app to cheat.

[ChumpDumper]

^^^ NH ^^^

Tulsi jumped up and Buttplug went way down without an app to cheat.Are you sure Pete went way down?

[Spurtacular]

Are you sure Pete went way down?

Relative to Iowa? Yea, that's patently clear if the polls are to be trusted.

[Spurtacular]

:cry I didn't see you were speaking relative to Iowa :cry
:cry I just followed the purple line :cry

:lmao Troglodyte Chump

[ChumpDumper]

Relative to Iowa? Yea, that's patently clear if the polls are to be trusted.Do you think the app was used for polls in Iowa?

[Spurtacular]

Do you think the app was used for polls in Iowa?

I didn't say that, so fuck off. Stop wasting my time.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry I didn't see you were speaking relative to Iowa :cry
:cry I just followed the purple line :cry

:lmao Troglodyte ChumpSomehow going from 26% in IA to 22% in Bernie's backyard is "way down."

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't say that, so fuck off. Stop wasting my time.Great, how do you say he cheated with the app?

[Spurtacular]

Great, how do you say he cheated with the app?

I don't have to prove anything to you, sperm shielder.

[Spurtacular]

Somehow going from 26% in IA to 22% in Bernie's backyard is "way down."

Fair enough. I actually misread the number.

It is funny how Hillary's people manipulated you into thinking Buttplug is the top alternative to Commie Cuck though.

[ChumpDumper]

I d:cryn't have t:cry pr:cryve anything t:cry y:cryuderp folds

You can't back up your claims.

Ever.

lol dep

[Spurtacular]

derp folds

You can't back up your claims.

Ever.

lol dep

You'll always there to sperm shield. I can go to that well for laughs any time I want, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Fair enough. I actually misread the number.

It is funny how Hillary's people manipulated you into thinking Buttplug is the top alternative to Commie Cuck though.I never said that.

But since you made that claim, how do you say they manipulated Democrats into thinking Pete is the top alternative to Bernie?

[ChumpDumper]

You'll always there to sperm shield. I can go to that well for laughs any time I want, tbh.I'm asking you direct questions about your accusations.

You immediately fold and cry every time.

Now you'll try to change the subject.

[boutons_deux]

How Corporate Media Make Pete Look Like He’s Winning

https://fair.org/home/how-corporate-media-make-pete-look-like-hes-winning/?fbclid=IwAR0I38u1iCdcvHr5xVT0Nbu-2jvo9gV-lBVd_EHTjoq1UmOPsf9SlG3SqEU

[ChumpDumper]

How Corporate Media Make Pete Look Like He’s Winning

https://fair.org/home/how-corporate-media-make-pete-look-like-hes-winning/?fbclid=IwAR0I38u1iCdcvHr5xVT0Nbu-2jvo9gV-lBVd_EHTjoq1UmOPsf9SlG3SqEU
:lol I could tell that wasn't a bar chart immediately.

Come on, man.

[boutons_deux]

:lol I could tell that wasn't a bar chart immediately.

Come on, man.

not my web page, man

[spurraider21]

^^^ NH ^^^

Tulsi jumped up and Buttplug went way down without an app to cheat.
in what universe did tulsi jump and buttpleg go way down?

are you colorblind? here's the whole graph. tulsi is the pink one hovering at or below 5%. buttplug skyrocketed since iowa

https://i.gyazo.com/b9cea6c3afe9ab86f51d64ade661faf8.png

[spurraider21]

Iowa Democratic Party reviewing results from 95 precincts (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/08/iowa-democratic-party-reviewing-results-112532)


tl;dr, sanders/buttigieg/warren campaigns have flagged certain precinct results as needing review, which iowa will do. however, no party is expected to formally request a full recanvassing. the 95 precincts make up a pretty small percentage of the state.

any updated results with corrections are going to be released by monday, 1pm EST, which is also the deadline for candidates to make a request for recanvassing

[spurraider21]

how does pete get 2 more national delegates out of 41 than sanders despite only having about 2.8 more SDE's out of over 2000?

i'll never understand the math behind this

https://i.gyazo.com/9ec69420accf8198245f9f6f6b90675d.png

[ChumpDumper]

how does pete get 2 more national delegates out of 41 than sanders despite only having about 2.8 more SDE's out of over 2000?

i'll never understand the math behind this

https://i.gyazo.com/9ec69420accf8198245f9f6f6b90675d.pngIT WILL NEVER CHANGE GET OVER IT GRAVITY SNOWFLAKE

[Reck]

how does pete get 2 more national delegates out of 41 than sanders despite only having about 2.8 more SDE's out of over 2000?

i'll never understand the math behind this

https://i.gyazo.com/9ec69420accf8198245f9f6f6b90675d.png

This needs to go. I hope they make this a primary next time.

All in all, Biden who did so shitty basically is going to take half of what Bernie got and he technically won the thing.

To maybe answer your question, I think they give the delegate winner at least 2 more to separate 1-2?

For instance 2016 results were pretty much the same percentage wise and he got two less as well.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1226726568636096513

:lol Biden

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1226718181470937088

:lol Biden

[Spurtacular]

IT WILL NEVER CHANGE GET OVER IT GRAVITY SNOWFLAKE

Your sarcasm is so cool, Chump.

[Spurtacular]

how does pete get 2 more national delegates out of 41 than sanders despite only having about 2.8 more SDE's out of over 2000?

i'll never understand the math behind this

https://i.gyazo.com/9ec69420accf8198245f9f6f6b90675d.png

That's your party, bruh. Den of thieves.

[Spurtacular]

All in all, Biden who did so shitty basically is going to take half of what Bernie got and he technically won the thing.

????

[ChumpDumper]

Your sarcasm is so cool, Chump.Do you think you're cool, derp?

[ChumpDumper]

That's your party, bruh. Den of thieves.Explain your characterization.

[Spurtacular]

Do you think you're cool, derp?

That has nothing to do with your sperm shielding through the means of sarcasm.

[spurraider21]

thread

holy. shit.

complete absurdity

1226357866568863744

[spurraider21]

on the same topic


To confirm the validity of the data they received, Iowa Democratic Party officials spent much of the week collecting paper records of the results and checking them against the numbers reported by volunteers. But issues continued to plague the party’s reporting, and the Iowa Democratic Party on Saturday said it was reviewing reported inconsistencies in 95 precincts. On Sunday, they released the updated results.

But those largely left issues with the complicated math used to calculate results in the individual caucus sites, known as precincts, intact — because, party leadership says, fixing the math would break the law.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-09/sanders-to-seek-partial-recanvass-of-iowa-caucus-results

[Spurtacular]

thread

holy. shit.

complete absurdity

1226357866568863744

"No suspects"

--Your mentor

[Spurtacular]

on the same topic


https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-09/sanders-to-seek-partial-recanvass-of-iowa-caucus-results

"No suspects"

--Your mentor

[DMC]

thread

holy. shit.

complete absurdity

1226357866568863744
Good faith

[ChumpDumper]

"No suspects"

--Your mentorYou have no suspects.

[Death In June]

I think rural precincts are worth more delegates.

[baseline bum]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1226718181470937088

:lol Biden

Don't know why you're laughing, Biden is the guy I'd be hoping for if I wanted Trump re-elected. Bland centrist career politician who no one likes? Klobuchar is probably the only thing closer to Hillary Clinton in this race.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM/status/1226607764727791621

[boutons_deux]

Trash holding a Nuremberg rally in Manchester Monday night. :lol

to be attended by gullible sheeple

[Phenomanul]

Everything we are witnessing is really an "indirect admission" by DNC leadership that they know that the Biden ship is sinking. The fraudulent tactics that now favor Buttigieg are being conducted out in the open, shamelessly and without regard for the process. It's crazy to me that party adherents aren't willing to hold any of their leaders accountable - I suppose they fear being added to any of Hillary's death lists.

[florige]

Don't know why you're laughing, Biden is the guy I'd be hoping for if I wanted Trump re-elected. Bland centrist career politician who no one likes? Klobuchar is probably the only thing closer to Hillary Clinton in this race.


I'd be praying for Biden to all of the sudden recover and do well on Super Tuesday if I were a Trump supporter. If Biden is the nominee I'm almost certain Trump four more years. He'd probably wind up doing worse than Hillary.

[Thread]

Trash holding a Nuremberg rally in Manchester Monday night. :lol

to be attended by gullible sheeple

That's the kind of low brow shit you used to pull on us, bouts,,,then sit back on the CNN studio set, smirking & smiling to beat the band.

Now the old man is out there snarling traffic, pissin' in Cheerio bowls, time of his life.

Stings, don't it?

[Thread]

I'd be praying for Biden to all of the sudden recover and do well on Super Tuesday if I were a Trump supporter. If Biden is the nominee I'm almost certain Trump four more years. He'd probably wind up doing worse than Hillary.

...sure, if you drop this Biden into the final ticket at the convention, I'll buy that, but, if, God forbid he recovers tomorrow night & takes his rightful place along the trail, no-thank-you.

I just can't wait to see how MSM/CNN wrangles the data to give Butts the black vote. He's at 0%.

"I can't explain it, Wolf, but, the numbers don't lie. Sure, it's not Biden's numbers, but, it's close & there is still months before that Tuesday in November."

[Will Hunting]

Don't know why you're laughing, Biden is the guy I'd be hoping for if I wanted Trump re-elected. Bland centrist career politician who no one likes? Klobuchar is probably the only thing closer to Hillary Clinton in this race.
Agreed Biden is definitely closer to being another Hillary than Buttplug is but Buttplug might do worse against Trump because he’d inspire such piss poor black voter turnout.

I don’t even think Sanders is some particularly good matchup vs Trump, he’s just better than the rest of these fuck heads in the race.

[Trill Clinton]

excellent ad from Bloomberg. Dems need more ads like this

1226580658807504897

[boutons_deux]

"Buttplug might do worse against Trump because he’d inspire such piss poor black voter turnout."

homo-hating America ain't gonna elect a "faggot" (even a Christian one), and misogynist America won't elect a woman.

Klobochar is a long way from double digits nationally.

[Trill Clinton]

more ammo from 46-1

1226926517323804672

[spurraider21]

excellent ad from Bloomberg. Dems need more ads like this

1226580658807504897
that ad is 100% about trump, nothing to do about bloomberg. if he really wanted to help trump lose, he should just run those kinds of ads all the time but then not run for president

[boutons_deux]

PETE BUTTIGIEG REPEATEDLY DODGED A QUESTION ABOUT BLACK MARIJUANA ARRESTS IN SOUTH BEND — THEN INVOKED GANGS

“Under your leadership as mayor,

a black resident in South Bend, Indiana, was four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white resident,”


“Now, that racial disparity is higher than the rest of the state —

in fact, it’s higher than the rest of the nation —

and that disparity increased in South Bend after you took office.

When talking about the problem on national terms, you’ve called it ‘evidence of systemic racism.’

You were mayor for eight years, so weren’t you, in effect, the head of the system?

And how do you explain that increase in black arrests under your leadership?”

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/10/pete-buttigieg-black-marijuana-arrests/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/02/10/pete-buttigieg-black-marijuana-arrests/)

[baseline bum]

Agreed Biden is definitely closer to being another Hillary than Buttplug is but Buttplug might do worse against Trump because he’d inspire such piss poor black voter turnout.

I don’t even think Sanders is some particularly good matchup vs Trump, he’s just better than the rest of these fuck heads in the race.

The black vote is pretty critical in the primaries, but the electoral college pretty effectively suppresses its influence in a general election. The only states a black man's vote in a general election has much real bearing are Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, Michigan, and Florida, and Trump carried them all but Virginia. But all those votes from very black parts of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas that are so critical in the primary are rendered worthless by the electoral college. As long as the electoral college is around targeting black voters is a losing strategy IMO. I think Bernie is pretty strong myself since his message resonates in the rust belt. Plus old Jews in Florida would be able to elect the first Jew president. And the anti-semites are already Trump voters anyways.

[florige]

Agreed Biden is definitely closer to being another Hillary than Buttplug is but Buttplug might do worse against Trump because he’d inspire such piss poor black voter turnout.

I don’t even think Sanders is some particularly good matchup vs Trump, he’s just better than the rest of these fuck heads in the race.


Bernie has the one thing Trump has and that is a loyal cult like hard core base. The only difference I see with Trump core and Bernie's is Bernie's core is Bernie or bust, Trump'c core will go with whoever it takes to keep the Dem's out of the WH unless that person is someone Trump hates and commands them not to support whoever it may be.

[Will Hunting]

excellent ad from Bloomberg. Dems need more ads like this

1226580658807504897
It’s a great anti-Trump ad but that’s it. It’s abundantly clear that in order to beat Trump the Democratic candidate needs to have a campaign that goes beyond “TRUMP BAD!”, and so far that’s all Bloomberg’s campaign has consisted of.

[Thread]

It’s a great anti-Trump ad but that’s it. It’s abundantly clear that in order to beat Trump the Democratic candidate needs to have a campaign that goes beyond “TRUMP BAD!”, and so far that’s all Bloomberg’s campaign has consisted of.

He's just jealous because Trump made President. Galls him no end. Trump constantly doing Presidential things.

[Thread]

PETE BUTTIGIEG REPEATEDLY DODGED A QUESTION ABOUT BLACK MARIJUANA ARRESTS IN SOUTH BEND — THEN INVOKED GANGS

“Under your leadership as mayor,

a black resident in South Bend, Indiana, was four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white resident,”


“Now, that racial disparity is higher than the rest of the state —

in fact, it’s higher than the rest of the nation —

and that disparity increased in South Bend after you took office.

When talking about the problem on national terms, you’ve called it ‘evidence of systemic racism.’

You were mayor for eight years, so weren’t you, in effect, the head of the system?

And how do you explain that increase in black arrests under your leadership?”

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/10/pete-buttigieg-black-marijuana-arrests/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/02/10/pete-buttigieg-black-marijuana-arrests/)




Christ-a-mighty, what took so long?

Well, there goes the 0% black support he had goin'.

[Spurminator]

1226958371678543872

[TheGreatYacht]

DNC & Iowa Dem Party Not Even Hiding Their Contempt For Democracy

https://youtu.be/-sn2-P2aUbs

[Spurtacular]

You have no suspects.

I'm not the one who boldly proclaimed there's no suspects. It seems that Lite (and everyone else) disagrees with you.

Now fall back on how I need to list a conspiracy theory or a list to make you happy.

[Trill Clinton]

1226921108852662272

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

[Reck]

1226958371678543872

Bloomberg is a true disaster in the making. He’s legit buying his way into this race.

At least Trump was there from the start, went to all debates and actually shifted opinions within the GOP tards.

Ugh, I feel dirty now giving Trump props.

[baseline bum]

Bloomberg is a true disaster in the making. He’s legit buying his way into this race.

At least Trump was there from the start, went to all debates and actually shifted opinions within the GOP tards.

Ugh, I feel dirty now giving Trump props.

Fuck Bloomberg. Bloomberg is why we have Kavanaugh. I'd rather lose to Trump again than make a fucking crooked oligarch the head of the DNC.

[CosmicCowboy]

1226921108852662272

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

Those people are scary weird.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not the one who boldly proclaimed there's no suspects. It seems that Lite (and everyone else) disagrees with you.

Now fall back on how I need to list a conspiracy theory or a list to make you happy.You have no suspects.

[hater]

Those people are scary weird.

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1111447082966179841?s=21

crazies all around niga

[hater]

The Crazies... I need to watch that movie agains

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1111447082966179841?s=21

crazies all around niga
:lol "she's going to make merry christmas a banned phrase"

these people listen to too many medal of freedom holding radio hosts

[Spurtacular]

You have no suspects.

You still think there are no suspects?

[ChumpDumper]

You still think there are no suspects?Who are your suspects and what are you saying they did?

[Spurtacular]

Who are your suspects and what are you saying they did?

Do you still think there are no suspects?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you still think there are no suspects?

Yes or no.No.

Who are your suspects and what are you saying they did?

[SpursforSix]

The Crazies... I need to watch that movie agains

Bend over, I'll fuckin show ya the crazies.

[florige]

Bloomberg is a true disaster in the making. He’s legit buying his way into this race.

At least Trump was there from the start, went to all debates and actually shifted opinions within the GOP tards.

Ugh, I feel dirty now giving Trump props.


I think as this thing winds down Bloomberg is going to fizzle out. He is the new kid on the block who has a lot of $ and the DNC are maybe desperate enough to think he has a real shot at Trump since their golden boy Biden is currently going down in flames.

[Spurtacular]

No.

Who are your suspects and what are you saying they did?

I don't care to make a list. I just :lol at you for hearing of all this impropriety and then making a sweeping statement that there are no suspects.

You couldn't be a bigger sperm shielder. :lmao

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) should agree unless he wants to sperm shield for you :lmao

[spurraider21]

https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-democrats-to-hold-news-conference-on-caucus-updates/30856765#

at the 3:53 mark of the press conference, he addresses the question of why the pure math/rounding figures couldn't be adjusted in the review that they have done so far. however, he does go on to say that "the course for correcting that is what is starting here today, starting with the recanvassing process, and then if requested, a recount after that"

but he then went on to say that the math can only be changed if they get to the recount phase, not just a recanvassing. to me it's kind of absurd that objective math errors cannot be corrected until several hoops are jumped through

[ChumpDumper]

I don't care to make a list. I just :lol at you for hearing of all this impropriety and then making a sweeping statement that there are no suspects.

You couldn't be a bigger sperm shielder. :lmao

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) should agree unless he wants to sperm shield for you :lmaoDerp folds and begs for his enemy to help him.

You have no suspects and no idea what you're trying to bitch about.

[Spurtacular]

Derp folds and begs for his enemy to help him.

You have no suspects and no idea what you're trying to bitch about.

There's no folding; stop comforting yourself. This is like mental masturbation for you at this point.

Also :lol @ "enemy". Chump signaling Lite better stay on his side. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

There's no foldingYou claimed there are suspects.

I asked you who your suspects are.

You didn't answer.

I asked you what your suspects did.

You didn't answer.

That's folding.

Why do you always choose to fold?

[Spurminator]

I think as this thing winds down Bloomberg is going to fizzle out. He is the new kid on the block who has a lot of $ and the DNC are maybe desperate enough to think he has a real shot at Trump since their golden boy Biden is currently going down in flames.

I think Bloomberg is going to win Texas and California and possibly New York, and Democrats should start preparing themselves emotionally for his being the nominee. I hope I'm wrong.

[Reck]

Chump signaling Lite better stay on his side. :lmao

Or what? He'll kill spur with his psychic powers?

[baseline bum]

I think Bloomberg is going to win Texas and California and possibly New York, and Democrats should start preparing themselves emotionally for his being the nominee. I hope I'm wrong.

I'll vote Trump before I'll vote Bloomberg.

[Spurtacular]

You claimed there are suspects.

I asked you who your suspects are.

You didn't answer.

I asked you what your suspects did.

You didn't answer.

That's folding.

Why do you always choose to fold?

Sure, there are suspects. I don't care about making a list is all. Why would I waste my time on that?

[Spurtacular]

Or what? He'll kill spur with his psychic powers?

Tranny still trying to make funnies.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, there are suspects. I don't care about making a list is all. Why would I waste my time on that?It would prove you actually have suspects.

You have no suspects.

You would rather fold and cry.

So fold and cry.

[Reck]

I think Bloomberg is going to win Texas and California and possibly New York, and Democrats should start preparing themselves emotionally for his being the nominee. I hope I'm wrong.

:lol Bernie will win California. There are signs already.

:lol The fact people think Bloomberg will win a single primary is cute. The most damage he can do is probably get 5-10% on any given Super Tuesday primary. Or have you got any substantive polling data on this? I know I do.

[Spurtacular]

It would prove you actually have suspects.

You have no suspects.

You would rather fold and cry.

So fold and cry.

I don't have suspects. But clearly there are some. The levels of impropriety is off the charts.

Also :lol at Lite voting present to help you feel better.

[Spurminator]

I'll vote Trump before I'll vote Bloomberg.

We've had this conversation already, so to each his own. If you'd rather have Trump picking RBG's replacement and a bunch of Federal judges, and if you want Trump's AG overseeing election irregularities and other underhanded efforts benefitting the GOP in the long term, not sure there's a lot I can say to change your mind.

[Reck]

Tranny still trying to make funnies.

:lol this is how simple you are, derp. I just exposed your whole shtick. You're the one who calls chump a psycho. I merely used your lame stick.

:tu for you realizing how unfunny and lame that shit is. lol derp

[ChumpDumper]

You have no suspects.

I don't have suspects.
:rollin

[Spurminator]

:lol Bernie will win California. There are signs already.

:lol The fact people think Bloomberg will win a single primary is cute. The most damage he can do is probably get 5-10% on any given Super Tuesday primary. Or have you got any substantive polling data on this? I know I do.

You may be right about California. But Bloomberg has gained 10 points on Biden in Texas in three weeks and still has three weeks (and a lot of TV money) to go. He's already at 17% in New York, tied with Sanders and Warren, and that's his home base. He picks up a few more Biden voters there and I think he gets it.

I don't put much stock in polls when it comes to primaries anyway because the voting pool is much smaller and less motivated overall.

[spurraider21]

fwiw bloomberg is #2 on the betting odds only behind bernie

[baseline bum]

We've had this conversation already, so to each his own. If you'd rather have Trump picking RBG's replacement and a bunch of Federal judges, and if you want Trump's AG overseeing election irregularities and other underhanded efforts benefitting the GOP in the long term, not sure there's a lot I can say to change your mind.

Bloomberg is why we have Kavanaugh. I'll take the Democratic party going down in huge defeat with the hope they learn they have to get their act together vs taking the party even farther right like they would be with Bloomberg. And Bloomberg wouldn't beat Trump anyways even if I was willing to sell my soul and vote for him. You think people didn't turn out for Hillary, wait until it's an actual oligarch running.

[Reck]

Bloomberg is why we have Kavanaugh. I'll take the Democratic party going down in huge defeat with the hope they learn they have to get their act together vs taking the party even farther right like they would be with Bloomberg. And Bloomberg wouldn't beat Trump anyways even if I was willing to sell my soul and vote for him. You think people didn't turn out for Hillary, wait until it's an actual oligarch running.

I think there is now a concerted effort to make Bloomberg "the guy" now by the media and probably even these pollsters. Bloomberg beating Trump to the tune of 52-42. :lmao

[baseline bum]

I think there is now a concerted effort to make Bloomberg "the guy" now by the media and probably even these pollsters. Bloomberg beating Trump to the tune of 52-42. :lmao

Bloomberg to me is the absolute worst case scenario. It would be the culmination of what boutons would say as America becoming fucked and unfuckable. If my choices are oligarchy vs oligarchy plus some gun control what the fuck kind of choice is that? I held my nose and voted for Hillary in 2016 because while awful she would have still been a far superior president, but I refuse to vote for some piece of shit buying his way to the presidency only for his own personal wealth.

[spurraider21]

Bloomberg to me is the absolute worst case scenario. It would be the culmination of what boutons would say as America becoming fucked and unfuckable. If my choices are oligarchy vs oligarchy plus some gun control what the fuck kind of choice is that? I held my nose and voted for Hillary in 2016 because while awful she would have still been a far superior president, but I refuse to vote for some piece of shit buying his way to the presidency only for his own personal wealth.
agreed

[Reck]

Bloomberg to me is the absolute worst case scenario. It would be the culmination of what boutons would say as America becoming fucked and unfuckable. If my choices are oligarchy vs oligarchy plus some gun control what the fuck kind of choice is that? I held my nose and voted for Hillary in 2016 because while awful she would have still been a far superior president, but I refuse to vote for some piece of shit buying his way to the presidency only for his own personal wealth.

BTW, I lol'd because there is no way he beats Trump by that margin.

Trump the faggot opened the door for uber rich elites like Bloomberg and Steyer. It's no coincidence they now think they can become president after Trump. Bloomberg specially has been around for decades with no presidential aspirations and now he wants in?

If Bloomberg wanted to make a dent on Trump's support he could have challenged Trump in the Republican primaries and at least throw the GOP into chaos with his unlimited money.

[Thread]

BTW, I lol'd because there is no way he beats Trump by that margin.

Trump the faggot opened the door for uber rich elites like Bloomberg and Steyer. It's no coincidence they now think they can become president after Trump. Bloomberg specially has been around for decades with no presidential aspirations and now he wants in?

If Bloomberg wanted to make a dent on Trump's support he could have challenged Trump in the Republican primaries and at least throw the GOP into chaos with his unlimited money.

Hush, Recky, I don't even like to think about that. Makes my bowels get loosey, if not goosey.

[Spurtacular]

:lol this is how simple you are, derp. I just exposed your whole shtick. You're the one who calls chump a psycho. I merely used your lame stick.

:tu for you realizing how unfunny and lame that shit is. lol derp

Nice word salad.

Also irrespective of what you think of me, :lol that you don't understand that Chump consistently exhibits the behavior of a sociopath and/or psychopath.

[Spurtacular]

:rollin

I don't care to make a list. I don't know why that triggers you so badly. I guess cos you just really want that nothing w.

[florige]

I think Bloomberg is going to win Texas and California and possibly New York, and Democrats should start preparing themselves emotionally for his being the nominee. I hope I'm wrong.

Maybe if he were around and got into the race earlier. Most sensible people will look at him as a Billionaire who is simply trying to buy his way into the WH. The Dems are sleeping on Sanders. As radical as he may be he has the followers and the wacky message Trump had in 2016 that should scare Trump voters. Between the poor people who believe Bernie’s free everything nonsense, the people like me who will vote for whoever to get rid of Trump, and his already loyal hardcore he to me is the only real shot at beating Trump. Biden is stale and really not all that likable. His whole MO would probably be like Hillary and try and ride Obama’s coattails again. Hillary tried that and that’s how we wound up with this clown as President.

[Spurtacular]

Maybe if he were around and got into the race earlier. Most sensible people will look at him as a Billionaire who is simply trying to buy his way into the WH. The Dems are sleeping on Sanders. As radical as he may be he has the followers and the wacky message Trump had in 2016 that should scare Trump voters. Between the poor people who believe Bernie’s free everything nonsense, the people like me who will vote for whoever to get rid of Trump, and his already loyal hardcore he to me is the only real shot at beating Trump. Biden is stale and really not all that likable. His whole MO would probably be like Hillary and try and ride Obama’s coattails again. Hillary tried that and that’s how we wound up with this clown as President.

You're not worthy of your avatar, tbh.

[Reck]

. Biden is stale and really not all that likable. His whole MO would probably be like Hillary and try and ride Obama’s coattails again. Hillary tried that and that’s how we wound up with this clown as President.

I disagree on the liking part.

He's likeable enough. Definitely doesn't have the baggage Hillary has. His favorable rating is pretty high.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-3469.html

His problem is..well he's senile and very combative with potential voters that turn off a lot of people. Biden missed his window. His last shot was back in 2016 but didn't run for understandable reasons.

After tomorrow when he comes in behind Klobuchar (lol) he needs to concede and become a 3-time loser. Somehow making him a bigger loser than Hillary.

Warren who I actually like is in a similar position.

[Thread]

I disagree on the liking part.

He's likeable enough. Definitely doesn't have the baggage Hillary has. His favorable rating is pretty high.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-3469.html

His problem is..well he's senile and very combative with potential voters that turn off a lot of people. Biden missed his window. His last shot was back in 2016 but didn't run for understandable reasons.

After tomorrow when he comes in behind Klobuchar (lol) he needs to concede and become a 3-time loser. Somehow making him a bigger loser than Hillary.

Warren who I actually like is in a similar position.

The old Recky, conversational tone. I love it, youngster.

[Spurminator]

Maybe if he were around and got into the race earlier. Most sensible people will look at him as a Billionaire who is simply trying to buy his way into the WH. The Dems are sleeping on Sanders. As radical as he may be he has the followers and the wacky message Trump had in 2016 that should scare Trump voters. Between the poor people who believe Bernie’s free everything nonsense, the people like me who will vote for whoever to get rid of Trump, and his already loyal hardcore he to me is the only real shot at beating Trump. Biden is stale and really not all that likable. His whole MO would probably be like Hillary and try and ride Obama’s coattails again. Hillary tried that and that’s how we wound up with this clown as President.

If he'd gotten into the race earlier, he'd have had to participate in debates and get ganged up on by all of the other candidates. As it is, he's managed to get to the 3rd position or so without participating in the standard process of debates, town halls and primaries. I'm just saying, get ready.

[Spurtacular]

I disagree on the liking part.

He's likeable enough. Definitely doesn't have the baggage Hillary has. His favorable rating is pretty high.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-3469.html

His problem is..well he's senile and very combative with potential voters that turn off a lot of people. Biden missed his window. His last shot was back in 2016 but didn't run for understandable reasons.

After tomorrow when he comes in behind Klobuchar (lol) he needs to concede and become a 3-time loser. Somehow making him a bigger loser than Hillary.

Warren who I actually like is in a similar position.

That stuff will be smoothed out by handlers / media if and when Biden wins the nomination.

But it is costing him now because the establishment is heavy on other candidates right now.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't care to make a list. I don't know why that triggers you so badly. I guess cos you just really want that nothing w.Just name one suspect and what you think that suspect did.

[Spurtacular]

Just name one suspect and what you think that suspect did.

Why? There's plenty of suspicious activity (that you're denying). I know you're desperately looking for that wormhole, Dump. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Why? There's plenty of suspicious activity (that you're denying). I know you're desperately looking for that wormhole, Dump. :lol

Why can't you name just one suspect and what you think that suspect did?

I am officially calling you out because you are full of shit.

Step up or fold.

[Spurtacular]

Why can't you name just one suspect and what you think that suspect did?

I am officially calling you out because you are full of shot.

Step up or fold.

I'm officially saying I don't care and that you're just looking for your wormhole.

Now go ahead and comfort yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm officially saying I don't care and that you're just looking for your wormhole.

Now go ahead and comfort yourself.

Derp officially folds.

You care enough to make accusations but curl up into your standard fetal position when you're called out.

:lol you're full of shit

[Spurtacular]

Derp officially folds.

You care enough to make accusations but curl up into your standard fetal position when you're called out.

:lol you're full of shit

:lmao Chump officially comforts himself.
:lmao :cry No suspects :cry

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Chump officially comforts himself.
:lmao :cry No suspects :cry

I don't have suspects.
:rollin

[Spurtacular]

:rollin

You're the one who saw the sh** load of suspicious activity and declared "no suspects".

Your crying out for me to name names is just you trying to sidestep your sperm shielding. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You're the one who saw the sh** load of suspicious activity and declared "no suspects".

I don't have suspects.
:rollin

[Spurtacular]

Chump found his infinite loop. It won't erase your sperm shielding. Sorry, not sorry.

LOL Dump

[ChumpDumper]

Chump found his infinite loop. It won't erase your sperm shielding.You said there are no suspects to shield.

You suspect nothing happened.

[florige]

I disagree on the liking part.

He's likeable enough. Definitely doesn't have the baggage Hillary has. His favorable rating is pretty high.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-3469.html

His problem is..well he's senile and very combative with potential voters that turn off a lot of people. Biden missed his window. His last shot was back in 2016 but didn't run for understandable reasons.

After tomorrow when he comes in behind Klobuchar (lol) he needs to concede and become a 3-time loser. Somehow making him a bigger loser than Hillary.

Warren who I actually like is in a similar position.



I'm kinda shocked that Warren is doing as badly as she is. I really thought it would be between her and Sanders. I agree with the senile part with Biden. I can see him gaffing it all up against Trump and thats one of the things that scares me with him. Say what you want about Trump, he is quick witted when it comes to debating, he proved that when he destroyed Hillary which I wasn't expecting at all. And to you'll likable part I guess I mean he isn't likable enough to have a loyal following imo that would be enough to beat Trump.

[florige]

If he'd gotten into the race earlier, he'd have had to participate in debates and get ganged up on by all of the other candidates. As it is, he's managed to get to the 3rd position or so without participating in the standard process of debates, town halls and primaries. I'm just saying, get ready.


I hope you are wrong, because if Bloomberg somehow wins the nomination I am sure Trump will win. And for the record I'm not one of Sander's die hard's at all. At this point I am just on board on who I think will have the best chance now at beating Trump.

[Thread]

Once & again:::no Democrat has ever won the nomination without finishing 1 OR 2 in NH.

[Will Hunting]

Once & again:::no Democrat has ever won the nomination without finishing 1 OR 2 in NH.
And it’s unlikely a senile old man who’s trending down is going to buck that trend.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao le happy Bloomberg getting a write in vote in the Republican primary

[Spurtacular]

You said there are no suspects to shield.

You suspect nothing happened.

Fake narratives. How come it took you so long? You're losing your touch. :lol

[hater]

:lmao mainstream media

:lmao MSNBC clown says Klobitchard going 3rd in NH would be bigger accomplishment than Bernie winning #1 :lmao

what the fuck :lol

https://twitter.com/toekneep18/status/1227266414580465664?s=21

[Trill Clinton]

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[Will Hunting]

:lmao mainstream media

:lmao MSNBC clown says Klobitchard going 3rd in NH would be bigger accomplishment than Bernie winning #1 :lmao

what the fuck :lol

https://twitter.com/toekneep18/status/1227266414580465664?s=21
The media’s agenda with certain candidates is so obvious it’s disgusting.

Klobuchar could have gotten onstage at the last debate and shouted “I hate n!ggers!” For two hours straight and CNN would have still had a panel declaring her the winner.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mviser/status/1227263044302123009

:lol Biden

[CosmicCowboy]

Guarantee he will be in a black church Sunday morning.

[spurraider21]

Guarantee he will be in a black church Sunday morning.
he should change his slogan to "Hope and Change" tbh

[Trill Clinton]

https://preview.redd.it/xntgsuzwvbg41.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&a7b3a4ff1227264879150731265


uh what?

[ChumpDumper]

Fake narratives. How come it took you so long? You're losing your touch. :lolWhat's your narrative?

Who are your suspects?

What do you suspect they did?

[Trill Clinton]

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Man I can't wait until the old school dems get out of the way. They're trying their best to sabotage their own party.

[phxspurfan]

All the crappy candidates about to get weeded out tonite (Klobuchar, Steyer, Warren, etc)

[florige]

[QUOTE=Will Hunting;10065635]The media’s agenda with certain candidates is so obvious it’s disgusting.

Not sure why the MSM are so hating on Bernie for. At least call it fair. These freaking idiots should had learned from 2016 that people were tired of the status quo that's what Trump ran on and won. Bernie is pretty much running on the same thing and imo the perfect candidate to go up against Trump.

[Trill Clinton]

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[spurraider21]

All the crappy candidates about to get weeded out tonite (Klobuchar, Steyer, Warren, etc)
i think its unlikely warren bows out. steyer should have suspended his campaign quite some time ago. he was only qualifying after pumping tens of millions in ad money into early state so that he can register on those polls (he wouldnt have qualified based on national polls). he is polling decently enough in Nevada and South Carolina... so he might wait until those states.

as for warren, i think she'll stick around at least until super tuesday, unless she finishes terribly in some of these states... some 4th/5th place finishes behind klobuchar/biden, for example. especially with bloomberg surging past her in some national polls, writing is on the wall, but i think she'll hang around

[baseline bum]

I don't get all the Bernie hate from the MSM. At least call it fair.

Why would you expect a corporate media to not have it in for a candidate like Sanders?

[Spurtacular]

What's your narrative?

Who are your suspects?

What do you suspect they did?

Do you still say there are no suspects?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you still say there are no suspects?

Yes or no.Yes. There are no suspects.

What's your narrative?

Who are your suspects?

What do you suspect they did?

Stop stalling and just fold like you always do.

[Spurtacular]

Yes. There are no suspects.

:lmao

[hater]

glad to see democrats turning around on Bernie. very heartwarming

what MSM doesnt tell you is if you unite the Bernie bros and regular democrats, Trump is toast

[Reck]

:lmao le happy Bloomberg getting a write in vote in the Republican primary

I just said that if he really wanted to hurt Trump's chances that he should've run in the GOP primaries just yesterday. This kinds of proofs my point.

The point is to hubble Trump, of course he's not going to win the GOP primary but at least softing him up for whoever comes out of the dem side.

[SnakeBoy]

I'd vote for Klobuchar

[spurraider21]

I'd vote for Klobuchar
:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

You don't like Klobuchar?

[spurraider21]

You don't like Klobuchar?
i laughed because i dont believe for a second that he would vote for klobuchar

do i like klobuchar? compared to the current dem field, i think the only person i objectively like less is bloomberg. to me she's right there with biden/pete.

would i vote for her over trump if she was the nominee? absolutely

[Spurtacular]

i laughed because i dont believe for a second that he would vote for klobuchar

do i like klobuchar? compared to the current dem field, i think the only person i objectively like less is bloomberg. to me she's right there with biden/pete.

would i vote for her over trump if she was the nominee? absolutely

Sounds like you don't like a lot of the Dem field. :lol

[florige]

Why would you expect a corporate media to not have it in for a candidate like Sanders?

I get that part. But it’s not like Trump is the MSM best friend either. I mean can’t they see now that Sanders is the only clear choice who can beat Trump? At this point you would think the CNN’s of the world can tell that no other candidate would stand much of a chance.

[spurraider21]

Sounds like you don't like a lot of the Dem field. :lol
ding ding ding

[baseline bum]

I get that part. But it’s not like Trump is the MSM best friend either. I mean can’t they see now that Sanders is the only clear choice who can beat Trump? At this point you would think the CNN’s of the world can tell that no other candidate would stand much of a chance.

I think they expect any Democrat to beat Trump. And even if they don't, Trump is amazing for their ratings since he gets emotional reactions from people. CNN had to love his first few months when it was a new crisis every single day from Trump's White House (which you can likely blame Reince Priebus for constantly leaking).

[baseline bum]

I'd vote for Klobuchar

What about after Super Tuesday?

[Reck]

After tomorrow when he comes in behind Klobuchar (lol) he needs to concede and become a 3-time loser. Somehow making him a bigger loser than Hillary

:lol Biden gonna come in 5th or even in 6th place behind Yang.

[SnakeBoy]

What about after Super Tuesday?

If you make her the nominee I'll vote for her in the general, I promise. She's precisely the middle of the road bland non-polarizing moderate democrat that can attract voters like me.

[baseline bum]

If you make her the nominee I'll vote for her in the general, I promise. She's precisely the middle of the road bland non-polarizing moderate democrat that can attract voters like me.

crofl

[spurraider21]

If you make her the nominee I'll vote for her in the general, I promise. She's precisely the middle of the road bland non-polarizing moderate democrat that can attract voters like me.
:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

Biden says Mickey Mouse can beat Trump

Campaign currently reminding him that his entire argument has been that only he can beat Trump :lol

[Will Hunting]

Biden says Mickey Mouse can beat Trump

Campaign currently reminding him that his entire argument has been that only he can beat Trump :lol
:lmao did he seriously say that?

[Will Hunting]

Typical CNN putting Kaisich on TV to push the “elect a moderate!” agenda.

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao did he seriously say that?

Yep

Joe Biden: 'We could run Mickey Mouse' against Trump and win
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/11/joe-biden-we-could-run-mickey-mouse-against-trump-/

[hater]

:lmao Biden

[hater]

https://twitter.com/nerdswagfest/status/1227380660568035330?s=21

[baseline bum]

Biden says Mickey Mouse can beat Trump

Not sure this country is ready for another black president

[Will Hunting]

Yep

Joe Biden: 'We could run Mickey Mouse' against Trump and win
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/11/joe-biden-we-could-run-mickey-mouse-against-trump-/
They’ll be too incompetent to capitalize on it but if the other candidates were any good they’d string him up for that :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

You have no suspects.

I don't have suspects.
:rollin

[baseline bum]

They’ll be too incompetent to capitalize on it but if the other candidates were any good they’d string him up for that :lol

If Biden is still in the race for Super Tuesday no way that doesn't show up in a Bloomberg ad. Or should I say a Bloomberg ad every ten minutes.

[Will Hunting]

60% of the New Hampshire primary voters say they want Medicare-for-all, that has to be good news for Sanders.

[Reck]

60% of the New Hampshire primary voters say they want Medicare-for-all, that has to be good news for Sanders.

Exit polls also good news for Klobuchar. She might come in second. :lol

[Reck]

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/10/21131416/new-hampshire-primary-dixville-notch-millsfield-harts-location-midnight-vote

[Will Hunting]

:lmao:lmao it looks like Biden is going to get walloped

[hater]

:lmao :lmao

Biden

no wonder he ran from the state :lmao


hes getting absolutely obliterated :lmao

:lmao Gabbard getting more votes than him :lmao

[Reck]

:lmao Gabbard getting more votes than him :lmao

No she's not.

Still. lol Biden

[hater]

looks like Pocahondas is toast

good

retire and give your supporters to Bernie

[Reck]

looks like Pocahondas is toast

good

retire and give your supporters to Bernie

tbh...