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Spurs Homer
09-29-2018, 09:51 PM
Thats boutons level stupid.
You must have skipped high school and college - got it!
Spurtacular
09-29-2018, 09:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoH2SUTVsAAtYS3.jpg:large
It's all just a giant coincidence. You're paranoid.
Chris
09-29-2018, 09:53 PM
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Mikeanaro
09-29-2018, 09:53 PM
It's all just a giant coincidence. You're paranoid.
Here Dr. Blasey Ford most recent picture...
https://media.giphy.com/media/3i9cMZcilPtn2/giphy.gif
Chris
09-29-2018, 09:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoRAQfNXkAEJ0ZN.jpg:large
Spurs Homer
09-29-2018, 10:01 PM
Some of the things the FBI is doing - asap;
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/la-times-fbi-apos-kavanaugh-203755917.html
Chris
09-29-2018, 10:04 PM
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ElNono
09-29-2018, 10:06 PM
No reply?
What is there to reply to? You made up an asinine scenario that only boutons could entertain, tbh...
ElNono
09-29-2018, 10:11 PM
welp, the twatters working overtime with fake news was completely unexpected...
Mikeanaro
09-29-2018, 10:12 PM
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How dare you, Julie is sweet, brave and is risking everything.
Chris
09-29-2018, 10:15 PM
How dare you, Julie is sweet, brave and is risking everything.
Just look at that smile :lol
Pavlov
09-29-2018, 10:20 PM
Coal factories are back and jobs are back. What's the problem?What's a coal factory, Chris?
Winehole23
09-29-2018, 10:20 PM
Coal factories are back and jobs are back. What's the problem?Mechanization and low natural gas prices have killed coal industry employment levels.
The jobs lost to mechanization aren't coming back.
Employment of 50,000 coal miners is down from a peak of 883,000 in 1923.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:0-1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States
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For the first time ever a Trump tweet actually made me feel better.
Unless the FBI was going to do a full investigation anyways. Still, let's get to the bottom of this and whatever they find we go with.
Chris
09-29-2018, 10:23 PM
What's a coal factory, Chris?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_power_station
Chris
09-29-2018, 10:24 PM
For the first time ever a Trump tweet actually made me feel better.
Unless the FBI was going to do a full investigation anyways. Still, let's get to the bottom of this and whatever they find we go with.
It's going to backfire on the Left. Trump is eager to proceed.
ducks
09-29-2018, 10:32 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1046230634103025664?s=20
Pavlov
09-29-2018, 10:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_power_stationThat's not a factory, Chris.
What's a coal factory, Chris?
Winehole23
09-29-2018, 10:35 PM
lol ignorant Chris
Chris
09-29-2018, 10:50 PM
That's not a factory, Chris.
Actually it is so...yeah.
What's a coal factory, Chris?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_power_station
Pavlov
09-29-2018, 10:54 PM
Actually it is so...yeah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_power_stationIt is not.
That's why it's called a coal-fired power plant and not a coal factory.
:lol Chris
Winehole23
09-29-2018, 11:48 PM
Rod Dreher pivots from the Benedict Option, compares the Kavanaugh confirmation to the Dreyfus Affair only this time, the real victim is guilty of merely being white, male, conservative and cisgender.
Never mind that Gorsuch was too.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/kavanaugh-america-dreyfus-affair/
Chris
09-30-2018, 12:20 AM
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Isitjustme?
09-30-2018, 12:26 AM
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How do you think women go to the bathroom chris?
Quadzilla99
09-30-2018, 12:29 AM
How do you think women go to the bathroom chris?
They pee in the sink obviously, right? I mean.....right?
Quadzilla99
09-30-2018, 12:30 AM
No really how do they go to the bathroom. I dunno.
Maybe Chris can explain
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 12:32 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoUWgOlWkAUVrR4.jpg:largehow often do you suppose that actually happens?
are urinals now a standard feature in women's rooms?
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 12:35 AM
They pee in the sink obviously, right? I mean.....right?:lol
In crowded men's rooms at clubs and at the movies, where people are patiently waiting in line, I sometimes encourage them to use the sink if it happens to be free.
No one ever takes the suggestion.
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 12:38 AM
It would be a shorter line for me if they did.
AaronY
09-30-2018, 02:17 AM
:lmao chris
Spurtacular
09-30-2018, 02:43 AM
It's going to backfire on the Left. Trump is eager to proceed.
ShotThroughTheHeart
09-30-2018, 02:49 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoUWgOlWkAUVrR4.jpg:large
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9swDIB-d1w
Pavlov
09-30-2018, 03:16 AM
:lol derp's alts
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 07:58 AM
a close reading of the hearing. takes Kavanaugh apart on a granular level.
Of course there is a serious risk to the “believe all accusers” approach—it leads to wrongful convictions. But there is also a risk to a “never believe an uncorroborated charge” approach—it means that you can attack someone if you’re alone with them, and as long as you leave no marks, you’ll get away with it forever.
If we are taking an uncorroborated claim seriously, though, what does that mean for standards of proof? Much later in life, Ford told her therapist and husband, but at the end of the day we only have her word. If we were to base his guilt on her word alone, then wouldn’t people be able to make any kind of false allegation they liked?
Not quite. The existence of a “he said, she said” does not mean it’s impossible to figure out the truth. It means we have to examine what he said, and what she said, as closely as possible. If both parties speak with passion and clarity, but one of them says many inconsistent, evasive, irrational, and false things, while the other does not, then we actually have a very good indicator of which party is telling the truth. If a man claims to be innocent, but does things—like carefully manipulate words to avoid giving clear answers, or lie about the evidence—that you probably wouldn’t do if you were innocent, then testimony alone can substantially change our confidence in who to believe.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 08:07 AM
No really how do they go to the bathroom. I dunno.
Maybe Chris can explainthe clear innuendo is that the only reason transgender folks go to the women's room is to expose themselves to little girls.
and not, say, to avoid getting assaulted in the men's room by men who presume trans people mainly go to the bathroom with kinky intentions.
hater
09-30-2018, 09:18 AM
:lmao spanish channel just had 3 rape victims as analysts and they asked them who they believe
Guess what they said :lmao
What a circus
pgardn
09-30-2018, 09:22 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoUWgOlWkAUVrR4.jpg:large
When a poster constantly puts up silly images and tweets from others we know they personally have no idea wtf is going on. Chris. You really suck at advancing red team’s few legit concerns in this current mess.
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 09:26 AM
If you missed the Kavanaugh hearing - this is a nice recap; :lol:lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRJecfRxbr8&frags=pl%2Cwn
If you missed the Kavanaugh hearing - this is a nice recap; :lol:lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRJecfRxbr8&frags=pl%2Cwn
"I'm a keg is half full kind of guy!" :lol
Mikeanaro
09-30-2018, 09:38 AM
:lmao spanish channel just had 3 rape victims as analysts and they asked them who they believe
Guess what they said :lmao
What a circus
Kaiser K?
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 09:40 AM
"I'm a keg is half full kind of guy!" :lol
"gangbang greg"
:lol:lol
ducks
09-30-2018, 10:14 AM
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pgardn
09-30-2018, 10:24 AM
"I'm a keg is half full kind of guy!" :lol
The guy could not even admit he got drunk in HS and college. Just fckn admit it! This is one, among a number of transgressions in his testimony that tell me he is a full-fledged liar. Oh, he never forgets stuff. At parties where people are buzzing all about and gathering in different rooms inside and outside. It’s massive confusion for anyone at crowded parties or even parties where friends split off. But he does not forget. BS. What he should clearly REMEMBER is that he would never ever do what was stated by Dr. Ford.
This is so easy for a truthful person. “I may have had alcohol, and I certainly was not aware of everything going on at the party. But....there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I would forget what Dr. Ford has said I did to her, NO WAY. Because I have and never will do anything close to this. Never, ever. I have no idea what her purpose is in all of this but she is totally and absolutely wrong. This never ever happened, with Dr. Ford or any other woman. EVER.”
And you find everY chance you have no matter what the question to say this again and again. Instead he brings out his Calender, his good times with friends, his hard work in school? Starts to cry, then “Senator, do you like beer?” Wtf? Fckn Diva. And Who does not work hard to get into Yale Law school. Deflection instead of staying with and never leaving the Ford accusation. He wanders around getting madder while defending irrelevant topics. He had so much misplaced malice and puts so much effort into what might have been erroneous readings of his Calender? “Oh I got them on this one because I’m lying about the REAL Topic.” No, just No. She is NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. You pound that EVERY Chance.
He is a lying asshole.
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 10:42 AM
We went through the transcript of the hearing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/09/27/kavanaugh-hearing-transcript/?utm_term=.a846d4f8572d) and noted every single time a question was asked of Ford and Kavanaugh. (We didn’t include the times a questioner didn’t ask an explicit question.) Then we noted every instance in which answered the question or said they didn’t know the answer — and we also noted every time they either refused to answer or gave an answer that didn’t address the question. Here are the results:
https://preview.redd.it/3ciq83tdr1p11.jpg?width=614&43e6a552 (https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/9jqzf1/vox_graphic_comparing_ford_and_kavanaughs/)
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/28/17914308/kavanaugh-ford-question-dodge-hearing-chart
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pgardn
09-30-2018, 10:56 AM
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Because he could not let some things go. He clearly drank to excess. But he could not stand to be asked that question and then move on. And imo, if he was going to wander around questions, Wander back to the fact that he would never ever do what Dr. Ford accused him of and never has. To ANY WOMAN. But he did not.
He got himself purposely worked up over obvious Democratic ploys to keep him out of this position and directed his outrage towards THIS because he could not get himself worked up about the REAL ACCUSATION. I have seen people pull this childish maneuver but it is not being brought out by these supposed lawyers? Possibly because his family is bearing his failings.
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 10:57 AM
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boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 11:09 AM
"Kavanaugh promises"
:lol K is honest, believable.
He'll vote exactly the other 4 oligarchy-whores-in-robes
We know we'll be fucked for many decades when John Roberts is the swing vote :lol
Cuppycake Gumdrop
09-30-2018, 11:09 AM
How do you think women go to the bathroom chris?
:lmao Chris doesn’t wanna go to the sidelines and talk to the ollllll ball coach efter det one.
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 11:33 AM
The guy could not even admit he got drunk in HS and college. Just fckn admit it! This is one, among a number of transgressions in his testimony that tell me he is a full-fledged liar. Oh, he never forgets stuff. At parties where people are buzzing all about and gathering in different rooms inside and outside. It’s massive confusion for anyone at crowded parties or even parties where friends split off. But he does not forget. BS. What he should clearly REMEMBER is that he would never ever do what was stated by Dr. Ford.
This is so easy for a truthful person. “I may have had alcohol, and I certainly was not aware of everything going on at the party. But....there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I would forget what Dr. Ford has said I did to her, NO WAY. Because I have and never will do anything close to this. Never, ever. I have no idea what her purpose is in all of this but she is totally and absolutely wrong. This never ever happened, with Dr. Ford or any other woman. EVER.”
And you find everY chance you have no matter what the question to say this again and again. Instead he brings out his Calender, his good times with friends, his hard work in school? Starts to cry, then “Senator, do you like beer?” Wtf? Fckn Diva. And Who does not work hard to get into Yale Law school. Deflection instead of staying with and never leaving the Ford accusation. He wanders around getting madder while defending irrelevant topics. He had so much misplaced malice and puts so much effort into what might have been erroneous readings of his Calender? “Oh I got them on this one because I’m lying about the REAL Topic.” No, just No. She is NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. You pound that EVERY Chance.
He is a lying asshole.
Agreed - but I'll simplify it even more - THIS - is what I feel an honest person would say from the very beginning;
I did drink as a young man and maybe even did some irresponsible things.
(of course deny whatever is alleged)
Furthermore, I absolutely do not want there to be any question - so yes - I will ask the committee to please pause on this process - release 100% of all my public documents for review, re-open a full FBI investigation since new allegations surfaced and I will submit to a polygraph examination - just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.
This is what an innocent person would do.
AaronY
09-30-2018, 11:37 AM
:lmao Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) doesn’t wanna go to the sidelines and talk to the ollllll ball coach efter det one.
doesnt even know how women use the restroom :lmao
a close reading of the hearing. takes Kavanaugh apart on a granular level.
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https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying
Where doubt should exist I would agree, but where criminal charges are brought, I don't. There's a reason we have a judicial system. Maybe we should start public hangings based on accusations alone.
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 11:39 AM
just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.
This is what an innocent person would do.
which is of course why K won't do it, and why the Repugs have classified all but a tiny bit of K's documents.
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 11:40 AM
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If you watched the entirety of the shit show - this is not surprising.
Here is where I really feel that he is unqualified;
Kavanaugh absolutely refused to answer ANY political or questions regarding policy, law & the consitutional issues of our time -claiming some impartiality on everything. He always blabbered on about his favorite dodge- "precedent."
Every time he was asked a YES OR NO question - he dissembled, refused to answer YES or NO - rambled on about 3 other cases/rulings until time ran out.
I get that he did not want to taint any future ruling - he might one day face - but it all went to shit - when he testified on the last day and completely discarded his impartiality and pretty much recited the FOX news/right wing nut job bible.
He is a complete liar and a partisan right wing operative.
Not qualified to be a sc justice.
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pgardn
09-30-2018, 11:42 AM
Agreed - but I'll simplify it even more - THIS - is what I feel an honest person would say from the very beginning;
I did drink as a young man and maybe even did some irresponsible things.
(of course deny whatever is alleged)
Furthermore, I absolutely do not want there to be any question - so yes - I will ask the committee to please pause on this process - release 100% of all my public documents for review, re-open a full FBI investigation since new allegations surfaced and I will submit to a polygraph examination - just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.
This is what an innocent person would do.
I would even bring up some irresponsible things. “But I never did, and never have done what Dr. Ford has accused me of. Ever. And continue to pound this. Say it every way possible. And find a way to get this in during questions instead of your RedSox games and fckn calendars that your deceased dad blessed you with.
Because he is not lying about the Democrats motives, he uses this to enrage himself. It’s like getting into character. So he can seriously get enraged about this and what his family has gone through.
Agreed - but I'll simplify it even more - THIS - is what I feel an honest person would say from the very beginning;
I did drink as a young man and maybe even did some irresponsible things.
(of course deny whatever is alleged)
Furthermore, I absolutely do not want there to be any question - so yes - I will ask the committee to please pause on this process - release 100% of all my public documents for review, re-open a full FBI investigation since new allegations surfaced and I will submit to a polygraph examination - just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.
This is what an innocent person would do.
This is because you're stupid. You'd probably tell a cop they could search your vehicle in an attempt to appear innocent, they'd find an old beer can beneath your passenger seat and you'd get a ticket for open container. You never give up your right to privacy, because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You'll still be assumed guilty by the same people who wanted you checked. The tendency to misuse what they do find is why you don't provide more fodder.
If the FBI finds nothing on Kavanaugh, the left will not change their opinion one iota. He's still a a child rapist to them. They will instead consider the FBI to be paid off. Since he was nominated they've had one acceptable outcome - non confirmation.
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 11:54 AM
This is because you're stupid. You'd probably tell a cop they could search your vehicle in an attempt to appear innocent, they'd fine an old beer can beneath your passenger seat and you'd get a ticket for open container. You never give up your right to privacy, because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You'll still be assumed guilty by the same people who wanted you checked. If the FBI finds nothing on Kavanaugh, the left will not change their opinion one iota. He's still a a child rapist to them.
This is what a Trumptard cult follower would say - because you always think "liberal conspiracy."
This has nothing to do with your rights to unlawful search & seizure - this was a job interview for one of the toughest jobs to get in the USA.
Right to privacy my ass - this is a process where you know you will be scrutinized from birth until the day you are sworn in and if you have skeletons - don't even apply for it- period.
When Kavanaugh was on the Bush team and the Ken Starr team and he wanted the slimiest details uncovered of a sitting president he thought it was ok for a president to get dragged into the gutter.
Now that a Republican is president he has publicly opined that the president is above the law but he conveniently refused to acknowledge that he still believes that when asked during this hearing.
Don't tell me that now his privacy is to be shielded when he just ruled on a case that a polygraph is ok to be used in a background investigation- but when he is the one being investigated - then he can hide behind the GOP and get rush-confirmed while covering up his past.
Aside from having obese hands, your judgement is also unhealthy.
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 11:54 AM
Kavanaugh lied about getting into Yale by merit. His grandfather was an alumn. (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/29/1800114/-Kavanaugh-lied-about-getting-into-Yale-by-merit-His-grandfather-was-an-alumn)
"I have no connections there. I got there by busting my tail."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/29/1800114/-Kavanaugh-lied-about-getting-into-Yale-by-merit-His-grandfather-was-an-alumn?detail=emaildkre
So K, like C-student dubya, got into Yale on affirmative action :lol
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 11:54 AM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/594560/story_image/5baed8aa68108.image.jpg?1538269972
This is what a Trumptard cult follower would say - because you always think "liberal conspiracy."
This has nothing to do with your rights to unlawful search & seizure - this was a job interview for one of the toughest jobs to get in the USA.
Right to privacy my ass - this is a process where you know you will be scrutinized from birth until the day you are sworn in and if you have skeletons - don't even apply for it- period.
When Kavanaugh was on the Bush team and the Ken Starr team and he wanted the slimiest details uncovered of a sitting president he thought it was ok for a president to get dragged into the gutter.
Now that a Republican is president he has publicly opined that the president is above the law but he conveniently refused to acknowledge that he still believes that when asked during this hearing.
Don't tell me that now his privacy is to be shielded when he just ruled on a case that a polygraph is ok to be used in a background investigation- but when he is the one being investigated - then he can hide behind the GOP and get rush-confirmed while covering up his past.
Aside from having obese hands, your judgement is also unhealthy.
All that stupid shit you just said means nothing. You don't volunteer to have your past laid out for public view. I don't recall any interview where the interviewer wanted me to have every aspect of my life made public so a group who wanted to see me burn alive could use it against me. That's what politics is, this is a political show. This is where the legislative branch gets their shots at the executive branch through the judicial branch. Now run along and Google what I am referring to.
AaronY
09-30-2018, 12:04 PM
excellent debate
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 12:06 PM
Where doubt should exist I would agree, but where criminal charges are brought, I don't. There's a reason we have a judicial system. Maybe we should start public hangings based on accusations alone.failing to get a promotion on the basis of a bad interview isn't equivalent to a summary lynching.
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 12:14 PM
goddamn, these rightwingnutjobs and their false equivalence metaphors and similes are FUCKING STUPID, and too stupid to know they're bad-faith stupid.
DarrinS
09-30-2018, 12:15 PM
The investigation could’ve been wrapped up by now with Dr. Ford’s identity protected, but politics...
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 12:31 PM
Lindsey Graham demands FBI investigate Senate Judiciary Democrats over Kavanaugh hearings
Lindsey Graham has dedicated himself to finding who he believes are the real villains uncovered during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings — the Democrats.
On ABC news’ “This Week,” Graham continued his defiant response presented during the hearing,
vowing to “do a wholesale, full scale investigation of what I think was a despicable process to deter it from happening again.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/lindsey-graham-demands-fbi-investigate-senate-judiciary-democrats-kavanaugh-hearings/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
:lol The Old Lesbian has tipped into partisan insanity. He will certainly go crawling to oligarchy for compaign funds,
and then again after retirement for lobbying jobs.
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 12:36 PM
All that stupid shit you just said means nothing. You don't volunteer to have your past laid out for public view. I don't recall any interview where the interviewer wanted me to have every aspect of my life made public so a group who wanted to see me burn alive could use it against me. That's what politics is, this is a political show. This is where the legislative branch gets their shots at the executive branch through the judicial branch. Now run along and Google what I am referring to.
When you interviewed for a common job or a shit job - the bar is really low so I am not surprised that you have never been part of a rigorous process.
Let us stay relevant to THIS situation; Three women have made credible accusations. This hearing was mainly addressing ONE of those women.
He was under the gun - fair or not.
He could have
a) withdrawn from the process - just to not put himself and his family through it
b) be 100% transparent and offered to remove the mystery by allowing for the fbi/polygraph/etc to clear his good name and get that SC Justice seat with no questions - no clouds over his nomination
c) continue the cover up and dissemble, obfuscate, lie, deny and still not be open and transparent.
He chose C.
Cuppycake Gumdrop
09-30-2018, 12:40 PM
The investigation could’ve been wrapped up by now with Dr. Ford’s identity protected, but politics...
But it didn’t happen that way. Deal with it. Unless you want to fast track a potential sex offender to the Supreme Court because politics...
DarrinS
09-30-2018, 12:40 PM
What makes the allegations “credible”?
Cuppycake Gumdrop
09-30-2018, 12:41 PM
What makes the allegations “credible”?
Do you believe the allegations against Harvey Weinstein?
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 12:43 PM
Ted Lieu: No employer would hire sexual assault suspect who ‘yells at you’ and lies during interview
“This is not a trial,” the California Democrat pointed out.
“It is a job interview.
There’s no employer in America that would hire a job applicant who has a credible allegation of sexual assault.
And then during the interview,
yells at you and makes false statements.
No employer would hire that job applicant if there are other far more qualified people.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/ted-lieu-no-employer-hire-sexual-assault-suspect-yells-lies-interview/
K is pretty fucking dumb to have trusted whoever told him to come yelling, whining, moaning, crying, paranoid, blatantly partisan political, etc as how he could get job on SCOTUS.
Dumb, corrupted Useful Idiots are exactly whom the oligarchy wants for its whores.
But Repugs aren't "employers", they aare corrupt assholes hired to pollute SCOTUS with whores-in-robes. 4 down, 1 to go.
What makes the allegations “credible”?
Which allegations? There are multiple.
He's lying about his drinking problem
Lying about the attempted rape
Lying about even knowing some of his accusers
Lying about attending these parties even
Most of which even his classmates are now coming out and disputing. He lied under oath many times.
That alone should disqualify him from serving in the supreme court let alone his old job now.
He showed himself to be a partisan hack by going on that rant that completely exposed him. You dont want to see because you dont want to and you like it that way.
There is plenty wrong with this guy.
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 01:09 PM
Trash and his little bitch are lying
NBC crushes Sarah Sanders’ denial: White House is still hamstringing FBI with ‘limits’ on Kavanaugh probe
“Two high level sources familiar with the matter tell our friend and colleague Ken Dilanian that
the FBI has received no new instructions from the White House about how to proceed with this new investigation of sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh,” Bennett reported.
“And these sources say that President Trump’s Saturday night tweets, saying he wants the FBI to interview whomever agents deem appropriate,
has not changed the limits imposed by the White House counsel’s office on the FBI investigation,” Bennett continued.
“Which as we’ve reported includes a specific witness list that does not include the third accuser, Julie Swetnick.”
The NBC reporter noted that
Kavanaugh’s former classmates are also “off the list” of permitted interviewees.
“They describe [Kavanaugh] as a frequent, heavy drinker,” Bennett said. “I’m told by a senior official that the White House is the client in this process…
It’s a background investigation in which the FBI is acting on behalf of the White House.
The White House sets the parameters.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/nbc-crushes-sarah-sanders-denial-white-house-still-hamstringing-fbi-limits-kavanaugh-probe/
Spurtacular
09-30-2018, 01:36 PM
How dare you, Julie is sweet, brave and is risking everything.
Victimizing the victim all over again!
benefactor
09-30-2018, 01:40 PM
:lmao chris
Rough evening for him:lol
LGBTQIAPK & G-D
09-30-2018, 01:46 PM
Which allegations? There are multiple.
He's lying about his drinking problem
Lying about the attempted rape
Lying about even knowing some of his accusers
Lying about attending these parties even
Most of which even his classmates are now coming out and disputing. He lied under oath many times.
That alone should disqualify him from serving in the supreme court let alone his old job now.
He showed himself to be a partisan hack by going on that rant that completely exposed him. You dont want to see because you dont want to and you like it that way.
There is plenty wrong with this guy.
Totally even! Exposed partisan hack!
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 01:51 PM
Lindsey Graham demands FBI investigate Senate Judiciary Democrats over Kavanaugh hearings
Lindsey Graham has dedicated himself to finding who he believes are the real villains uncovered during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings — the Democrats.
On ABC news’ “This Week,” Graham continued his defiant response presented during the hearing,
vowing to “do a wholesale, full scale investigation of what I think was a despicable process to deter it from happening again.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/lindsey-graham-demands-fbi-investigate-senate-judiciary-democrats-kavanaugh-hearings/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
:lol The Old Lesbian has tipped into partisan insanity. He will certainly go crawling to oligarchy for compaign funds,
and then again after retirement for lobbying jobs.
Maybe while they are at it - they can investigate whether;
a) the GOP conspired in covering up Kavanaughs records from being released - with the white house
b) investigate whether the GOP or the White house - paid for Mark Judge to be sequestered in a beach hideaway
c) Did Lindsey Graham accept the 800,000 dollars from Russians - through the NRA funds
For starters
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 01:52 PM
K being a sexual abuser of women is, for the Repugs, a positive, not a negative.
White, male supremacist Repugs want K rather than some other right wing whore
because with K affirmed,
they are telling all females, #MeToo, femiNazis,
to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. We white guys can and will continue to abuse you bitches.
LkrFan
09-30-2018, 02:12 PM
doesnt even know how women use the restroom :lmao
:lol
Spurtacular
09-30-2018, 02:25 PM
doesnt even know how women use the restroom :lmao
We're never going to solve the tranny restroom problem at this rate!
failing to get a promotion on the basis of a bad interview isn't equivalent to a summary lynching.
When the entire world is told you sexually harassed your coworker from your previous employer because some random person you don't recall ever meeting says they vaguely recall the place of employment, can't get back there, no one there remembers them, and they just happen to be friends with the person competing with you for the job.... that's a bit different than that poor analogy you made.
I mean, sexual harassment is serious! The question deserves to be asked
Whomever calls victim first wins.
#firstvictim
Do you believe the allegations against Harvey Weinstein?
There are some that I don't believe, some I do. It's not that I don't believe he had sex with some of them, but that I don't believe it was unwelcomed at the time. It's unwelcomed now because they didn't get out of it what they thought they did, or they are bus jumping, or they are ashamed that they weren't Harvey's one and only side squeeze. So sure, some. Thing is, there wasn't nearly as much partisanship where every democrat says "guilty" and every republican says "innocent". It reeks of politics.
I think every nominee should have a thorough background check from all parts of our government agencies. I have to undergo as much just to get a CHL.
When you interviewed for a common job or a shit job - the bar is really low so I am not surprised that you have never been part of a rigorous process.
Rigorous process != submitting to partisan digging into your life where every other politician has more leaks than a colander. If there was some privacy involved and just a yes or no decision, that's fine, but they aren't even looking for the Dr Blasey Ford issue as much as anything else they can dig up to delay or nullify this selection.
Let us stay relevant to THIS situation; Three women have made credible accusations. This hearing was mainly addressing ONE of those women.
Stop calling things "credible" when they are not supported by evidence or corroborated by witnesses.
He was under the gun - fair or not.
No he wasn't.
He could have
a) withdrawn from the process - just to not put himself and his family through it
b) be 100% transparent and offered to remove the mystery by allowing for the fbi/polygraph/etc to clear his good name and get that SC Justice seat with no questions - no clouds over his nomination
c) continue the cover up and dissemble, obfuscate, lie, deny and still not be open and transparent.
No one on the panel interviewing him is 100% transparent. Not even close. If it wasn't a kangaroo court with the verdict pre-decided by social media, you might have a point, but you don't.
ducks
09-30-2018, 02:39 PM
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Wow! Just starting to hear the Democrats, who are only thinking Obstruct and Delay, are starting to put out the word that the “time” and “scope” of FBI looking into Judge Kavanaugh and witnesses is not enough. Hello! For them, it will never be enough - stay tuned and watch!
ducks
09-30-2018, 03:11 PM
https://twitter.com/krentekak/status/1046473944356642816?s=20
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 03:38 PM
Michael Caputo stokes racial fears: Black Lives Matter will ‘riot’ when Kavanaugh is confirmed
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/michael-caputo-stokes-racial-fears-black-lives-matter-will-riot-kavanaugh-confirmed/
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 04:01 PM
James Comey: The F.B.I. Can Do This
Despite limitations and partisan attacks, the bureau can find out a lot about the Kavanaugh accusations in a week.
We live in a world where
the president routinely attacks the F.B.I. because he fears its work.
He calls for his enemies to be prosecuted and his friends freed.
We also live in a world where a sitting federal judge channels the president
by shouting attacks at the Senate committee considering his nomination and
demanding to know if a respected senator has ever passed out from drinking.
We live in a world where the president is an accused serial abuser of women,
who was caught on tape bragging about his ability to assault women and
now likens the accusations against his nominee to the many “false” accusations against him.
Most disturbingly, we live in a world where millions of Republicans and their representatives think nearly everything in the previous paragraph is O.K.
If truth were the only goal,
there would be no clock, and the investigation wouldn’t have been sought after the Senate Judiciary Committee already endorsed the nominee.
Instead,
it seems that the Republican goal is to be able to say there was an investigation and it didn’t change their view,
while the Democrats hope for incriminating evidence to derail the nominee.
Although the process is deeply flawed, and apparently designed to thwart the fact-gathering process, the F.B.I. is up for this. It’s not as hard as Republicans hope it will be.
Once they start interviewing, every witness knows the consequences.
It is one thing to have your lawyer submit a statement on your behalf.
It is a very different thing to sit across from two F.B.I. special agents and answer their relentless questions.
Of course, the bureau won’t have subpoena power, only the ability to knock on doors and ask questions.
But most people will speak to them.
Refusal to do so is its own kind of statement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/opinion/james-comey-fbi-kavanaugh-investigation.html
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 04:47 PM
Deborah Ramirez Has Given The FBI A List Of Witnesses To Back Up Kavanaugh Sexual Assault Allegation
The second woman to accuse Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, Deborah Ramirez, has provided the FBI with a list of witnesses that support her accusation.
CNN reported: (https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/deborah-ramirez-fbi-kavanaugh/index.html)
Ramirez accused Kavanaugh of exposing himself to her at a party when he was a freshman at Yale, according to an account published in The New Yorker. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.
In an interview with the magazine, Ramirez said that she realized if she ever did speak with agents for the FBI, she knew she would be questioned about some lapses in her memory, her drinking at the party and her motivation for coming forward.
The source said Ramirez supplied the FBI on Sunday with the names of witnesses.
There is much more at stake besides a Supreme Court nomination.
We are at a critical moment in American cultural history.
America as a nation can send a message to women and men who are sexually assaulted that they can come forward.
They will be believed.
Their stories will be taken seriously and perpetrators will be held accountable.
By sticking with Brett Kavanaugh, Republicans have already lost.
The GOP had a moral choice to make and they chose wrong.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/09/30/deborah-ramirez-has-given-the-fbi-a-list-of-witnesses-to-back-up-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-allegation.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
Repugs? morals? :lol the venal Repugs' priority is donor $$$$
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 04:55 PM
Feinstein unearths another Kavanaugh lie, proving that he has no respect for the rule of law (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/26/1798862/-Feinstein-unearths-another-Kavanaugh-lie-proving-that-he-has-no-respect-for-the-rule-of-law)
another critical lie, in which
Kavanaugh lied to senators about having violated secrecy laws governing grand juries during the Starr investigation of President Bill Clinton.
"According to a memo from the National Archives, Brett Kavanaugh instructed Hickman Ewing, a colleague and deputy counsel in the Starr investigation, to 'call [Chris] Ruddy' about matters before a grand jury, which would be illegal to disclose,"
Feinstein said in a statement to POLITICO.
"I asked Judge Kavanaugh in questions for the record whether he had shared 'information learned through grand jury proceedings.'
His answer, which says that he acted 'consistent with the law,' conflicts with the official memo from Mr. Ewing.
Disclosing grand jury information is against the law and would be troubling for any lawyer, especially one applying for a promotion to the highest court in the country.”
Chris Ruddy was then a reporter for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, where he trafficked in conspiracy theories about the suicide of Vince Foster and the Clintons involvement in it.
Ruddy is now a great friend of Trump, one of his Mar-a-Lago hangers-on, and
also CEO of Newsmax.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/26/1798862/-Feinstein-unearths-another-Kavanaugh-lie-proving-that-he-has-no-respect-for-the-rule-of-law?detail=emaildkre
ducks
09-30-2018, 05:31 PM
So sources see why fbi is doing ?
ducks
09-30-2018, 05:38 PM
You believe her who 20 years had a Chinese spy working for her
LkrFan
09-30-2018, 06:16 PM
1046513764969791489
Yep yep
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 06:21 PM
Bernie Sanders just demanded the FBI investigate five lies Kavanaugh told at his hearing
Pointing out that giving false statements to Congress violates federal criminal statutes,
Senator Sanders pointed out five different times that
Kavanaugh said something that he wants the FBI to determine the veracity of.
The first statement that the Senator wants to see probed is the claim that Kavanaugh knew nothing about the files stolen from Democratic Judiciary Committee members by Republican staffers during the Bush administration.
Emails from the time show that the documents, one of which contained the subject line “spying,” were shared with the nominee at the time when he was a White House lawyer, begging the credibility of his denials that he knew that the documents were purloined.
The second instance was from a statement that Kavanaugh made to Congress in 2006 when he said that did not know anything about the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping program until after accounts appeared in the press. Senator Sanders points to a recently unveiled email that indicates he may have been involved in conversations about the program prior to its disclosure in the media.
The third potentially false assertion during congressional testimony by Kavanaugh took place in 2004 when he said that William Pryor’s nomination to the 11th Circuit Court “was not one that I worked on personally,” another statement that has been refuted by subsequently released documents.
Again in 2006, Kavanaugh testified that “I was not involved and am not involved in the questions about the rules governing detention of combatants,” a statement that is also contradicted by new evidence, making it the fourth potential instance of perjury that Sanders wants to be investigated.
The fifth question that the Vermont senator wants the FBI to ask Kavanaugh about is the incongruity between his testimony before the Judiciary Committee that he does not believe that polygraph tests are reliable and his opinion in his judicial ruling in Sack vs U.S. Department of Defense where he wrote:
“As the Government notes, law enforcement agencies use polygraphs to test the credibility of witnesses and criminal defendants. Those agencies also use polygraphs to ‘screen applicants for security clearances so that they may be deemed suitable for work in critical law enforcement, defense, and intelligence collection roles.’ … The Government has satisfactorily explained how polygraph examinations serve law enforcement purposes.”
In his letter to Senator Grassley,
Senator Sanders also cites four additional statements that Kavanaugh made in response to the sexual assault allegations
made against him as necessary to be investigated before any confirmation vote is taken up on the Senate floor.
https://washingtonpress.com/2018/09/29/bernie-sanders-just-demanded-the-fbi-investigate-five-lies-kavanaugh-told-at-his-hearing/ (https://washingtonpress.com/2018/09/29/bernie-sanders-just-demanded-the-fbi-investigate-five-lies-kavanaugh-told-at-his-hearing/)
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 06:50 PM
When the entire world is told you sexually harassed your coworker from your previous employer because some random person you don't recall ever meeting says they vaguely recall the place of employment, can't get
back there, no one there remembers them, and they just happen to be friends with the person competing with you for the job.... that's a bit different than that poor analogy you made.it wasn't an analogy. Senate confirmation is a job interview.
Due process and standards of proof don't apply, Senators vote their conscience.
As designed.
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 06:54 PM
there's not any part of the process that is not political -- complaints of politicization are misplaced, including complaints about investigative constraints set by the majority and the WH
LkrFan
09-30-2018, 06:55 PM
1046546041376526336
Will it matter?
How the fuck do you "look into" the alleged attempted rape and not talk to either RapeK and Ford about it if you're the FBI? :lmao
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 08:05 PM
How the fuck do you "look into" the alleged attempted rape and not talk to either RapeK and Ford about it if you're the FBI? :lmao
They will talk to them. Sometimes it is best to talk to them last - after other witnesses paint a picture of the alleged crime and then see if they can find inconsistencies. I hope they interview rapey brett last and i hope it is two female fbi agents that do it.
LkrFan
09-30-2018, 08:28 PM
Great summary of Kavanagh's lies:
1046053886623186950
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 08:37 PM
Fox News judge goes off on ‘adolescent’ Dr. Ford with ’emotional and psychological problems’
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Joseph-E-diGenova.jpg
Former US Attorney Joseph diGenova went after Ford personally, attacking her as immature, damaged and either dumb or a liar.
“Quite frankly, her testimony the other day was far from credible,” he began. She’s a very, very disturbed woman with clear emotional and psychological problems. This is a 55-year-old adult who testified like an adolescent. Not a single corroborating detail.”
“That means she’s either dumb as a post or she lied to the committee under oath,” he continued. “I think Christine Ford is a very sad woman and not a thing that she said should be believed and none of it has corroborated.”
“She may very well believe that something happened to her, but none of it relates to Brett Kavanaugh, and she presented no evidence other than her stark raving testimony that it was he,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/fox-news-judge-goes-off-dr-ford-adolescent-woman-emotional-psychological-problems-either-dumb-post-liar/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Joe working hard to earn his Fox appearance money
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1046536476215795712
LGBTQIAPK & G-D
09-30-2018, 08:53 PM
How the fuck do you "look into" the alleged attempted rape and not talk to either RapeK and Ford about it if you're the FBI? :lmao
It's fucking insanity! :lmao
ShotThroughTheHeart
09-30-2018, 09:07 PM
Fox News judge goes off on ‘adolescent’ Dr. Ford with ’emotional and psychological problems’
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Joseph-E-diGenova.jpg
Former US Attorney Joseph diGenova went after Ford personally, attacking her as immature, damaged and either dumb or a liar.
“Quite frankly, her testimony the other day was far from credible,” he began. She’s a very, very disturbed woman with clear emotional and psychological problems. This is a 55-year-old adult who testified like an adolescent. Not a single corroborating detail.”
“That means she’s either dumb as a post or she lied to the committee under oath,” he continued. “I think Christine Ford is a very sad woman and not a thing that she said should be believed and none of it has corroborated.”
“She may very well believe that something happened to her, but none of it relates to Brett Kavanaugh, and she presented no evidence other than her stark raving testimony that it was he,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/fox-news-judge-goes-off-dr-ford-adolescent-woman-emotional-psychological-problems-either-dumb-post-liar/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9swDIB-d1w
Chris
09-30-2018, 09:48 PM
:cry He misrepresented his drinking habits :cry
MultiTroll
09-30-2018, 09:49 PM
Fox News judge goes off on ‘adolescent’ Dr. Ford with ’emotional and psychological problems’
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Joseph-E-diGenova.jpg
Former US Attorney Joseph diGenova went after Ford personally, attacking her as immature, damaged and either dumb or a liar.
“Quite frankly, her testimony the other day was far from credible,” he began. She’s a very, very disturbed woman with clear emotional and psychological problems. This is a 55-year-old adult who testified like an adolescent. Not a single corroborating detail.”
“That means she’s either dumb as a post or she lied to the committee under oath,” he continued. “I think Christine Ford is a very sad woman and not a thing that she said should be believed and none of it has corroborated.”
“She may very well believe that something happened to her, but none of it relates to Brett Kavanaugh, and she presented no evidence other than her stark raving testimony that it was he,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/fox-news-judge-goes-off-dr-ford-adolescent-woman-emotional-psychological-problems-either-dumb-post-liar/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Joe working hard to earn his Fox appearance money
Was anything inaccurate from his quotes?
:cry He misrepresented his drinking habits :cry
He didn't "misreprensented" anything. He outright lied about being a drunk under oath. :lol Chris
ducks
09-30-2018, 10:42 PM
https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1046599195799371776?s=20
Spurs Homer
09-30-2018, 11:11 PM
Was anything inaccurate from his quotes?
The entire content.
boutons_deux
09-30-2018, 11:20 PM
Ford gonna be a hero
y'all's lying, abusive, privileged prick K is goin down, beer and all, not gonna be on SCOTUS.
Dems take the House, and impeach K from his Federal judgeship for lying to Congress multiple times.
MultiTroll
10-01-2018, 12:30 AM
Kuntstein, Fords attorneys to be investigated?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cotton-says-feinstein-will-be-investigated-over-leaked-letter-by-kavanaugh-accuser/ar-BBNKBDq?ocid=spartandhp
Chris
10-01-2018, 02:13 AM
1046518759433949184
uh oh Pochahantas :lmao
Chris
10-01-2018, 02:20 AM
1046540603188744194
Chris
10-01-2018, 02:22 AM
1046646166534799360
Chris
10-01-2018, 02:32 AM
1046614251807412224
Pavlov
10-01-2018, 03:42 AM
1046518759433949184
uh oh Pochahantas :lmao:lmao "secret"
Chris
10-01-2018, 04:27 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoVKg3VX0AAfhMT.jpg:large
ElNono
10-01-2018, 05:32 AM
Just feel for Chris, tbh... her decision to testify means the spin machine is going to be working overtime next week... those tweets nobody reads ain't going to get copy pasted all by themselves :lol
:lol time to pull a hater in here, tbh, called it!
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 06:19 AM
Yet Another Former Classmate Of Brett Kavanaugh Says He Drank More Than He Lets On
Chad Ludington, who went to Yale with Kavanaugh, told the New York Times he
often saw Kavanaugh “staggering from alcohol consumption.”
North Carolina State University professor Chad Ludington has joined a handful of other former classmates of Brett Kavanaugh in contradicting the Supreme Court nominee’s claims about his past drinking habits.
Ludington told the New York Times in a statement (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/politics/fbi-kavanaugh-investigation-scope-democrats.html#click=https://t.co/KVysuxc0A9) Sunday that
Kavanaugh played down “the degree and frequency” of his drinking
to the Senate Judiciary Committee last week. He said he often saw Kavanaugh “staggering from alcohol consumption.”
Ludington called
Kavanaugh’s answers about drinking a “blatant mischaracterization”
based on his experiences around the judge when they attended Yale University together. Ludington claimed he often saw Kavanaugh “belligerent and aggressive” while drunk.
“It is truth that is at stake, and
I believe that the ability to speak the truth,
even when it does not reflect well upon oneself,
is a paramount quality we seek in our nation’s most powerful judges,”
Ludington said in a statement to the Times.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-classmates_us_5bb157bce4b027da00d46d72?utm_medium= email&utm_campaign=_TheMorningEmail__100118&utm_content=_TheMorningEmail__100118+CID_f703b6120 8598b78dff6311ee502fea2&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews_TheMorningEmail__100118
“It is truth that is at stake" ... in theory, yes, but in practice, the oligarchy/Repugs' only "stake" is 100% reliable, extreme hard right 5 (or more) SCOTUS whores to deliver the oligarchy's bidding.
K's lying coverup of his excessive drinking 30+ years ago is worse than the drinking (if he has really stopped heavy drinking)
K's lying must block him from SCOTUS and impeached/convict him from his current judgeship
(but of course the Repugs have no values except oligarchy's $$$)
Yet Another Former Classmate Of Brett Kavanaugh Says He Drank More Than He Lets On
Chad Ludington, who went to Yale with Kavanaugh, told the New York Times he
often saw Kavanaugh “staggering from alcohol consumption.”
North Carolina State University professor Chad Ludington has joined a handful of other former classmates of Brett Kavanaugh in contradicting the Supreme Court nominee’s claims about his past drinking habits.
Ludington told the New York Times in a statement (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/politics/fbi-kavanaugh-investigation-scope-democrats.html#click=https://t.co/KVysuxc0A9) Sunday that
Kavanaugh played down “the degree and frequency” of his drinking
to the Senate Judiciary Committee last week. He said he often saw Kavanaugh “staggering from alcohol consumption.”
Ludington called
Kavanaugh’s answers about drinking a “blatant mischaracterization”
based on his experiences around the judge when they attended Yale University together. Ludington claimed he often saw Kavanaugh “belligerent and aggressive” while drunk.
“It is truth that is at stake, and
I believe that the ability to speak the truth,
even when it does not reflect well upon oneself,
is a paramount quality we seek in our nation’s most powerful judges,”
Ludington said in a statement to the Times.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-classmates_us_5bb157bce4b027da00d46d72?utm_medium= email&utm_campaign=_TheMorningEmail__100118&utm_content=_TheMorningEmail__100118+CID_f703b6120 8598b78dff6311ee502fea2&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews_TheMorningEmail__100118
“It is truth that is at stake" ... in theory, yes, but in practice, the oligarchy/Repugs' only "stake" is 100% reliable, extreme hard right 5 (or more) SCOTUS whores to deliver the oligarchy's bidding.
K's lying coverup of his excessive drinking 30+ years ago is worse than the drinking (if he has really stopped heavy drinking)
K's lying must block him from SCOTUS and impeached/convict him from his current judgeship
(but of course the Repugs have no values except oligarchy's $$$)
The Dems were focused on getting him to confess to "blacking out". They never asked "how much" or "how often". He said that he sometimes drank "too much". The only thing he denied was blacking out, that I remember.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 07:06 AM
John Oliver destroys the self-destructive K, and K's attempted rape of Ford is way down Oliver's list of reasons why K should NEVER be judge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opi8X9hQ7q8
K is the epitome of oligarchy/Repug kakistocracy.
it wasn't an analogy. Senate confirmation is a job interview.
Due process and standards of proof don't apply, Senators vote their conscience.
As designed.
So you're at a job interview with a dozen people in the room interviewing you at the same time. A few of them told you the minute you walked in that they were going to destroy you. A few of them told you that you were in. The "destroy you" people want you to submit to background investigations by the FBI. The "you're in" people tell you it's not necessary, you're good.
Job interviews typically aren't loaded with people who hope you fail and have no intention of being honest about you as a worthy candidate, even before speaking to you or knowing anything about you.
It's interesting though how you try to equate the two, when they aren't even remotely similar.
pgardn
10-01-2018, 08:03 AM
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People actuall follow this site Chris put up.
Look at this fecal material:
http://i65.tinypic.com/14muvxj.jpg
But, But... Cant trust MSM so I choose this!
Actually I follow a tweeter who chooses this crap.
DarrinS
10-01-2018, 08:23 AM
People actuall follow this site Chris put up.
Look at this fecal material:
http://i65.tinypic.com/14muvxj.jpg
But, But... Cant trust MSM so I choose this!
Actually I follow a tweeter who chooses this crap.
Here ya go
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/rachel-mitchell-kavanaugh-ford/index.html
DarrinS
10-01-2018, 08:27 AM
Avenatti client pretty sketchy
https://www.apnews.com/bccc4dd598df4e71bbf6c40ff4830373/3rd-Kavanaugh-accuser-has-history-of-legal-disputes?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP
Mikeanaro
10-01-2018, 08:40 AM
Avenatti client pretty sketchy
https://www.apnews.com/bccc4dd598df4e71bbf6c40ff4830373/3rd-Kavanaugh-accuser-has-history-of-legal-disputes?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP
Come on, not Julie.
dabom
10-01-2018, 08:53 AM
People actuall follow this site Chris put up.
Look at this fecal material:
http://i65.tinypic.com/14muvxj.jpg
But, But... Cant trust MSM so I choose this!
Actually I follow a tweeter who chooses this crap.
That looks like aids. :lol
Chris’ Pastor
10-01-2018, 09:08 AM
:cry He misrepresented his drinking habits :cry
“Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
-1 Corinthians 6:10
Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) we discussed this in Bible study, you shouldn’t support a dishonest drunkard just because he “triggers the libs”.
ducks
10-01-2018, 09:11 AM
The results are striking. Seventy-four percent of Republicans believe Judge Kavanaugh while 73 percent of Democrats believe Ford. Meanwhile, Independents are evenly split, with 33 percent backing Ford while 32 percent back Judge Kavanaugh.
In other words, it’s a wash. And, for Democrats, that is an absolute nightmare.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dems-to-pay-in-november-for-overplaying-kavanaugh-hand
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 09:21 AM
Former FBI - Frank Figluzzi - just said that his FBI people have confirmed that the White House has handcuffed the FBI in this sham investigation.
Says the president is telling the country that the FBI has "free reign" -
while simultaneously giving orders that only 4 witnesses can be interviewed and basically conduct a sham job to keep from the truth.
I knew when Trump suddenly said the victim was credible and suddenly saying he felt good about this investigation and that he trusts the FBI to do anything they want.
I knew right then they were lies.
Of course - Repugs ok - with the president blatantly lying to the country and covering up another investigation.
hater
10-01-2018, 09:31 AM
:lol time to pull a hater in here, tbh, called it!
Ma niga :tu
MultiTroll
10-01-2018, 09:37 AM
Former FBI - Frank Figluzzi
Of course - Repugs ok - with the president blatantly lying to the country and covering up another investigation.
so Homer, are you outraged that Feinstein won't be investigated for leaking Fords letter?
Fords attorneys won't be investigated and disbarred for lying to her about Senate Committee willing to fly out to Palo Alto to interview her? Thus avoiding the attention whore show.
ducks
10-01-2018, 09:47 AM
The agreement was a limited scope
That is what the donkeys wanted
hater
10-01-2018, 09:57 AM
The agreement was a limited scope
That is what the donkeys wanted
Snowflakes moving goalposts? Color me shocked
Chucho
10-01-2018, 10:26 AM
Has ANYTHING Ford said been corroborated yet?
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 10:34 AM
so Homer, are you outraged that Feinstein won't be investigated for leaking Fords letter?
Fords attorneys won't be investigated and disbarred for lying to her about Senate Committee willing to fly out to Palo Alto to interview her? Thus avoiding the attention whore show.
Not at all - because all of that is garbage and irrelevant.
1) Feinstein had to keep the victims anonymity - so she said nothing. Someone that Ford spoke to - friends or whoever - also knew about the allegation. Ford testified - that SHE- HERSELF - told the Washington Post about the allegations - because there were already reporters at her house and her job - so she bit the bullet and revealed herself.
2) This is consistent with right wing nut jobs like you - who always disregard the crime and attack the people who reported the crime. If someone broke into your house and murdered your family - you would immediately attack the neighbor that called the police and the police detectives who tried to find the murderer - would also be attacked by you because you would be absolutely outraged that the police didn't cross a - T - or dot an - i - in their police report.
Are you outraged that the GOP planned and instituted a cover up from the beginning?
Hiding 93% of all of Kavanaugh's public records. Avoiding an FBI investigation. Hiding the accomplice to a crime in a beach hideaway and allowing him to escape with just a signed letter from his attorney and refusing to testify in person.
Disregarding the other two victims and not allowing them to present their case.
The Fraudulent president saying a week ago that the FBI - does not do "that sort of thing" - only to be forced to admit they do. Now he is handcuffing the FBI in conducting a proper investigation.
Why do you support cover ups?
Why is the truth - the ONE THING - that right wing nut jobs like you - avoid?
MultiTroll
10-01-2018, 10:44 AM
Not at all - because all of that is garbage and irrelevant.
1) Feinstein had to keep the victims anonymity - so she said nothing.
Yawn.
Feinstein had to keep the victims anon, but then it became okay to reveal 5 days before the job appointment? :rollin
Ya no political motivation there.
As to Ford, her innocent bumpkin act goes South when her contacting WaPo gets delved into. "I'm not sure how these GoFundMe things work tee hee." :rolleyes
Lastly strawman, I'm not on either political side.
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 11:04 AM
Yawn.
Feinstein had to keep the victims anon, but then it became okay to reveal 5 days before the job appointment? :rollin
Ya no political motivation there.
As to Ford, her innocent bumpkin act goes South when her contacting WaPo gets delved into. "I'm not sure how these GoFundMe things work tee hee." :rolleyes
Lastly strawman, I'm not on either political side.
Let us be clear and blunt;
Americans should worry about and hate - crimes & corruption.
If obama or any dem was in ofc and there was a crime - i would never whine about or attack a leaker - i would shine a light on the crime/corruption.
I liked bill clinton- but when he was busted - petty or not - political hit job or not - i said - too bad - he lied - he got caught - too fuckin bad - he deserves it.
(ironic that kavanaugh played a part in this so karma is a bitch innit?)
More bluntness? Ok
I applaud leakers. Leak every crime and expose all corrupt people - party be damned.
monosylab1k
10-01-2018, 11:06 AM
I'm not on either political side.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Someone else who semenshields for Trump non-stop, but won’t admit to being a Republican.
MultiTroll
10-01-2018, 11:09 AM
Let us be clear and blunt;
Virtually all politicians are either scuz or controlled by scuz.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:10 AM
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/media/photologue/photos/cache/CH-MacKinnon-09_29_2018_original.jpg
MultiTroll
10-01-2018, 11:11 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Someone else who semenshields for Trump non-stop, but won’t admit to being a Republican.
slob with the usual lazy inaccuracies. :)
See my posts on Trump University.
Between donuts. :)
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:11 AM
Let us be clear and blunt;
Americans should worry about and hate - crimes & corruption.
If obama or any dem was in ofc and there was a crime - i would never whine about or attack a leaker - i would shine a light on the crime/corruption.
I liked bill clinton- but when he was busted - petty or not - political hit job or not - i said - too bad - he lied - he got caught - too fuckin bad - he deserves it.
(ironic that kavanaugh played a part in this so karma is a bitch innit?)
More bluntness? Ok
I applaud leakers. Leak every crime and expose all corrupt people - party be damned.
Bill Clinton is a rapist, if the worst of his accusers is true, which I have come to believe. He deserves to be in jail, and probably would be if he was still an active predator.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:14 AM
He didn't "misreprensented" anything. He outright lied about being a drunk under oath. :lol Chris
Between the lying under oath, the rampant partisanship, and bizarre temperament, his is patently unfit to be on SCOTUS.
I can't imagine a less judicial performance than to angrily give voice to some bizarre partisan conspiracy theory in your confirmation hearing.
monosylab1k
10-01-2018, 11:18 AM
slob with the usual lazy inaccuracies. :)
See my posts on Trump University.
Between donuts. :)
I’m not wading through all of your alt accounts to find crap about Trump U. Post it yourself. Otherwise, every other post shows your clear semenshielding of Trump/Republicans at every chance.
MultiTroll
10-01-2018, 11:20 AM
I’m not wading through all of your alt accounts to find crap about Trump U. Post it yourself. Otherwise, every other post shows your clear semenshielding of Trump/Republicans at every chance.
bok bok bok bok Ba-Gawk!
'slob rolls over on the couch.
Has ANYTHING Ford said been corroborated yet?negatively corroborated:lol
Mitchell summarized her report for the committee.
"In the legal context, here is my bottom line: A 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that," she wrote. "Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard."
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/rachel-mitchell-kavanaugh-ford/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spurstalk.com%2Ffor ums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D275669%26page%3D156
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
• In 2004, Kavanaugh said he was not involved in the handling of the controversial nomination of federal Judge William Pryor. That was a lie. E-mails later showed that he was involved.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
Kavanaugh was asked if he was involved with a scheme to steal Democratic staff e-mails related to judicial confirmations. He lied about it. E-mails showed that he was involved.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
• In 2006, Kavanaugh was asked if he was involved in the controversial nomination of federal Judge Charles Pickering. He lied about that too and said he was not.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
• In 2006, Kavanaugh was asked about his role in the nomination of William Haynes, the Pentagon general counsel involved in creating the Bush administration’s interrogation policies. He lied about that.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:29 AM
• He said the term “devil’s triangle” in his yearbook entry referred to a drinking game. Google it. It doesn’t.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:29 AM
• He said the word “boof” referred to flatulence. Again, no.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:29 AM
• Then there was his assertion that his yearbook description of himself as a “Renate Alumnius” was meant only to signify his friendship with Renate Dolphin, a woman who attended another school and socialized with Kavanaugh. Other football players were described as “Renate Alumni.” We know what they intended to insinuate. You know what they meant to insinuate. Everyone knows. Senators may never be able to establish with forensic certainty that Kavanaugh’s entry was intended as a sexual boast, but they’re allowed to use common sense.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 11:30 AM
Another Trump coverup? Former FBI agents question limits on probe of Kavanaugh.
The White House appears to be playing all kinds of crafty rhetorical games to obscure the answer to a simple question:
Has it deliberately placed limits on the scope of the FBI’s renewed background check into allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh, or not?
The New York Times reports (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/politics/fbi-kavanaugh-investigation-scope-democrats.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage) that the
White House directed the FBI to interview only four people:
Mark Judge, who is alleged by Christine Blasey Ford to have acted as Kavanaugh’s accomplice in the sexual assault;
P.J. Smyth and Leland Keyser, who Ford claims were also in the house; and
Deborah Ramirez, who has accused (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez) Kavanaugh of exposing himself to her at Yale.
Meanwhile, The Post reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/administration-says-white-house-is-not-limiting-fbi-probe-of-kavanaugh-but-is-against-fishing-expedition/2018/09/30/aa7b796e-c4bb-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.c66e0dffec3a) that
Kavanaugh will also be interviewed, but that
a third accuser — Julie Swetnick — will not be.
It’s also not clear whether Ford herself will be contacted — she has not yet been, according to her lawyer.
instead of providing clarity, White House officials have sown further confusion.
Sanders and Conway both also said terms are being dictated — by Republican senators.
CNN reports (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/01/politics/white-house-kavanaugh-confirmation-postponement/index.html) that the White House and GOP senators together developed those
limits with the aim of making them “as narrow as possible.”
Clear now? Of course it isn’t. Because that’s exactly how the White House and Republican senators want it.
“It’s not an investigation if the FBI is going to accept the dictates of the White House in terms of who you can interview and who you can’t,” John Mindermann (http://johnmindermann.com/), a former FBI special agent
a limited investigation is “ridiculous” and that if this holds, “it would be unprofessional, it would be grossly incomplete, and it would be unfair to the American public.”
Chad Ludington ... claiming that “on many occasions,” he personally witnessed Kavanaugh “staggering from alcohol consumption,” which made him “often belligerent and aggressive.”
limits imposed by the White House counsel on the FBI’s investigation preclude questioning former classmates
other former classmates who have tried to offer the FBI information about him tell the Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/politics/fbi-kavanaugh-investigation-scope-democrats.html?action=click&contentCollection=Magazine&module=Trending&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article) and the New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-confusion-surrounding-the-fbis-renewed-investigation-of-brett-kavanaugh) that they haven’t been interviewed.
Kavanaugh’s drinking should be examined because his minimizing of it goes to the core of his credibility,
and at any rate, it appears central to the sexual assault allegations themselves.
a “complete investigation” would include talking to more people “in all of the venues in which Kavanaugh interacted — private school, parties, law school.”
if the FBI “did the job they should and can do, I would be
very surprised if they did not find relevant, very significant additional information about Kavanaugh.”
“The circumstances in this matter deal with allegations of extensive drinking and behavior while intoxicated. This would normally be an issue that is addressed.”
“An incomplete investigation could create more controversy than it resolves,”
for lawmakers making this enormously consequential decision about a lifetime appointment to the nation’s highest court,
it would be better to have more information at their disposal rather than less.
But it does not appear that the White House and Republican senators agree.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/01/another-trump-cover-up-former-fbi-agents-question-limits-on-probe-of-kavanaugh/?utm_term=.47a93ecab7d8&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Repugs/Trash:
Fuck You, America
Fuck You, Dems
and above all
Fuck You, #MeToo, FemiNazis, feminists, so-called lying rape victims, ALL women, because White Males Rule Forever!
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:30 AM
Now, some of those might seem like ticky-tack kind of misstatements. But the pattern starts to look overwhelming. As former FBI director James Comey put it on Twitter: “Small lies matter, even about yearbooks.” The standard jury instruction, he noted, says: “If a witness is shown knowingly to have testified falsely about any material matter, you have a right to distrust such witness’ other testimony and you may reject all the testimony of that witness.”
Kavanaugh’s pattern of dishonesty certainly affects how to view Ford’s accusation that he attacked her when both were in high school. She was highly credible as a witness, passed a polygraph, and, unlike Kavanaugh, has no demonstrated pattern of bending the truth.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2018/09/28/the-lies-senators-must-tell-themselves-support-brett-kavanaugh
Lying under oath is pretty much a non-starter for a SCOTUS nominee.
Unless you are a Republican. Then it's ok, right?
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:33 AM
The Dems were focused on getting him to confess to "blacking out". They never asked "how much" or "how often". He said that he sometimes drank "too much". The only thing he denied was blacking out, that I remember.
Because he didn't want to be asked, under oath:
"is it possible you don't remember this, because you were drunk".
Pretty obvious why he would lie about that, if he was, as other accounts corroborate, an aggressive mean drunk.
"Bart O'Kavanaugh"... from Judge's book detailing the heavy drinking they did.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:35 AM
Yes.
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Does his friend have the potential motive of not wanting to be drawn into the public circle, so that you left wingers can dox him with death threats, like his friend, yes or no?
Yes, indeed.
Does his friend detail a book where he describes his heavy drinking with his friend "Bart O'Kavanaugh"? yes or no?
Chucho
10-01-2018, 11:38 AM
• He said the term “devil’s triangle” in his yearbook entry referred to a drinking game. Google it. It doesn’t.
You go and list a load of relevant things to show he's a liar and throw this turd in there. There are probably a billion things Google doesn't know, and of them I'd wager "names for drinking games from 40 years ago" is one of those billion things.
Yes, indeed.
Does his friend detail a book where he describes his heavy drinking with his friend "Bart O'Kavanaugh"? yes or no?
I haven’t read the book, but I will assume it does.
When the FBI completes its investigation and can not corroborate anything Ford has claimed what’s the next step for the Resistance?
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 11:50 AM
"When the FBI completes its investigation"
the WH/Repug limited investigation is fraudulent, inconclusive, a fucking coverup
Ford's claim that K and Judge roughed her up, attempted to rape her is now secondary.
K's proven repeated lying years ago to Congress (claiming he didn't read Miranda's stolen Dem docs, didn't work on Yoo's torture docs) while nominated for Federal judgeship, and repeated lying now, is the overwhelming, fatal objection for his nomination now.
Then throw in the whining, anger, petulance, sniffly crying, the paranoid partisan conspiratorial attacks on Clintons :lol,
and we see exposed a REALLY SHITTY excuse of a really dumb, stupid, immature human being, never mind a SCOTUS whore for life.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:56 AM
You go and list a load of relevant things to show he's a liar and throw this turd in there. There are probably a billion things Google doesn't know, and of them I'd wager "names for drinking games from 40 years ago" is one of those billion things.
Most people my age or so are familiar with this. I remember the slang of my teenage years well enough. It is a sex act, in case you are wondering.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:57 AM
:lol Bart O'Kavanaugh is just a made up character :lol
... based on RL. book was horrible, btw.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 11:59 AM
His testimony backfired. Now you have classmates of him calling in networks to call on his bullshit. :lol
Eyup.
Everyone he grew up with knows what the culture was. Stupid, stupid thing to lie about.
monosylab1k
10-01-2018, 12:01 PM
bok bok bok bok Ba-Gawk!
'slob rolls over on the couch.
:lmao Fapps’ bluff gets called, so he deflects instead.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 12:02 PM
I haven’t read the book, but I will assume it does.
When the FBI completes its investigation and can not corroborate anything Ford has claimed what’s the next step for the Resistance?
I find her testimony credible. She is not out to make things up, and is telling the truth. His drunkenness, as well as Judge's doesn't preclude either of them from not remembering, and truthfully saying "I don't remember, and I never saw."
People have been given the death penalty on the same amount of evidence, so I am comfortable with simply wanting him not confirmed.
He is a lying, hyper-partisan douchebag. Just the kind of person you guys like.
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:05 PM
Trump: "the scope of this investigation is up to the Republican senators"
The same Republican senators who began this Supreme Court Confirmation cover-up.
Where is the outrage?
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:10 PM
Has ANYTHING Ford said been corroborated yet?
Yes.
2002 - she told her husband - he can testify - Republican senators refuse to hear his testimony.
2012 - Dr. Ford - told her therapist - Repukes refused to allow the therapist testimony
2018 - Dr. Ford took and passed a polygraph - Repukes refused to allow her full polygraph report to be introduced at hearing
Friends that she confided in YEARS BEFORE KAVANAUGH was even in the news - were not allowed to testify - by - yup - Repuke senators
So, Chucho/DMC -
yep plenty of corroboration - but the cover up goes on.
I find her testimony credible :lol of course you do
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1046805628868599808
Sex-Crimes Prosecutor Details 12 Massive Inconsistencies In Kavanaugh Accuser’s Story
http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01/sex-crimes-prosecutor-details-12-massive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/
Yes.
2002 - she told her husband - he can testify - Republican senators refuse to hear his testimony.
2012 - Dr. Ford - told her therapist - Repukes refused to allow the therapist testimony
2018 - Dr. Ford took and passed a polygraph - Repukes refused to allow her full polygraph report to be introduced at hearing
Friends that she confided in YEARS BEFORE KAVANAUGH was even in the news - were not allowed to testify - by - yup - Repuke senators
So, Chucho/DMC -
yep plenty of corroboration - but the cover up goes on.
None of that is corroboration.
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:13 PM
:lol of course you do
1046803223112241154
1046805628868599808
Sex-Crimes Prosecutor Details 12 Massive Inconsistencies In Kavanaugh Accuser’s Story
http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01/sex-crimes-prosecutor-details-12-massive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/
If I ever needed to find a few people that could be easily brainwashed and used as useful idiots -
boy - I would hit payload on this forum!
If I ever needed to find a few people that could be easily brainwashed and used as useful idiots -
boy - I would hit payload on this forum!
Mitchell summarized her report for the committee.
"In the legal context, here is my bottom line: A 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that," she wrote. "Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard."
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/30/pol...9%26page%3D156
Winehole23
10-01-2018, 12:19 PM
:cry He misrepresented his drinking habits :cry Bill Clinton lost his law licence for misrepresenting an aspect of his personal life under oath, and rightly so. Doesn't an oath mean anything?
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:20 PM
None of that is corroboration.
All of that is corroboration - when the FBI is allowed to freely chase down those leads and possibly connect the dots.
Who knows where those leads - end up?
Who knows if the accomplice - after being presented with damning corroborated evidence against him - decides to take a plea to save his own ass and throw the main assaulter under the bus?
"I tried to stop him" "GOP paid me to be quiet"
Or -
those leads could exonerate Kavanaugh and maybe even expose Dr. Ford as some fraud paid by left wing donors and she could be exposed for fraud and prosecuted.
But -
that would mean that the investigation would be allowed to continue until this truth could be exposed - and YOU surely do not want that. Republican Senators do not want that because that would mean that the elections would arrive before their master plan is put into place.
Trump would not want that because the ONE guy that thinks the president is above the law would be disqualified.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 12:23 PM
:lol of course you do
1046803223112241154
1046805628868599808
Sex-Crimes Prosecutor Details 12 Massive Inconsistencies In Kavanaugh Accuser’s Story
http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01/sex-crimes-prosecutor-details-12-massive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/
As she mentioned in her testimony, as her own expert witness, missing the little details is exactly what one would expect from anybody, especially trauma victims.
The relevant part... is crystal clear.
In fact, yes or no, can trauma victims not remember some less relevant details, but have fully accurate memories from the event itself?
negatively corroborated:lol
Mitchell summarized her report for the committee.
"In the legal context, here is my bottom line: A 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that," she wrote. "Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard."
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/rachel-mitchell-kavanaugh-ford/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spurstalk.com%2Ffor ums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D275669%26page%3D156
Lying sack of shit. :lol
Multiple classmates of him have already said he was lying about not being a drunk, which ford testified to.
That itself is a corraboration.
And that's funny you're quoting a lady that by her own admission said 5 minute increments wasn't enough to conduct an interview.
I also find it peculiar how she's all in on how Ford's allegations are weak and not prosecutable but is quiet on anything regarding Kavanaugh. :lol Partisan hacks.
Winehole23
10-01-2018, 12:24 PM
Doesn't an oath mean anything?as recently as 1998 perjury was an impeachable offense
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 12:27 PM
I haven’t read the book, but I will assume it does.
When the FBI completes its investigation and can not corroborate anything Ford has claimed what’s the next step for the Resistance?
There is always impeachment, especially since he has lied under oath to Congress.
The rest of it, will likely seem women even more pissed at the dipshits in the Republican party than they are now.
Susan Collins will be facing a difficult election at the very least, depending on her vote. A crowd PAC fund has raised about 1.7M in pledges for her future opponent if she votes to confirm him.
Either Sen. Collins VOTES NO on Kavanaugh OR we fund her future opponent
https://www.crowdpac.com/campaigns/387413/either-sen-collins-votes-no-on-kavanaugh-or-we-fund-her-future-opponent
All of that is corroboration - when the FBI is allowed to freely chase down those leads and possibly connect the dots.
Who knows where those leads - end up?
Who knows if the accomplice - after being presented with damning corroborated evidence against him - decides to take a plea to save his own ass and throw the main assaulter under the bus?
"I tried to stop him" "GOP paid me to be quiet"
Or -
those leads could exonerate Kavanaugh and maybe even expose Dr. Ford as some fraud paid by left wing donors and she could be exposed for fraud and prosecuted.
But -
that would mean that the investigation would be allowed to continue until this truth could be exposed - and YOU surely do not want that. Republican Senators do not want that because that would mean that the elections would arrive before their master plan is put into place.
Trump would not want that because the ONE guy that thinks the president is above the law would be disqualified.
None of what you listed was corroboration.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 12:30 PM
as recently as 1998 perjury was an impeachable offense
I would point out that his crime appears to be a third degree felony with no statute of limitation in the state it happened.
Lying sack of shit. :lol
Multiple classmates of him have already said he was lying about not being a drunk, which ford testified to.
That itself is a corraboration.
And that's funny you're quoting a lady that by her own admission said 5 minute increments wasn't enough to conduct an interview.
I also find it peculiar how she's all in on how Ford's allegations are weak and not prosecutable but is quiet on anything regarding Kavanaugh. :lol Partisan hacks.
Nothing Ford has said has been corroborated concerning the “attempted rape”. Nothing. It’s not up for debate.
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:31 PM
Mitchell summarized her report for the committee.
"In the legal context, here is my bottom line: A 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that," she wrote. "Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard."
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/30/pol...9%26page%3D156
Why can't you be honest?
Everything is laid out plainly - this was done - with the world watching.
1) Hearings started (after the GOP had refused to even hold a hearing for Merrick Garland) - FACT.
2) Hearings were rushed from the start. GOP had their mind made up this was already done - they did not want ANYTHING to delay this confirmation. FACT
3) 93% of the documents were hidden. FACT
4) A white house attorney - RESTRICTED - documents from being discussed or revealed - and marked them as "committee only" - meaning that even if there was some issue that senators had issues on - or questions - to ask kavanaugh about - they were not allowed to make them public. FACT
5) 15 hours before the Hearings started - 142,000 documents were dumped on the committee - leaving Democrats with a shit load of unverified shit sitting before them while they tried to prepare decent questions/issues to query Kavanaugh about. FACT
6) Democrat senators RIGHTFULLY complained and what happened? What did the Republicans respond with? With this: "dems are obstructing" "booker and harris are grandstanding because they are running for president" "dems are horrible people for treating poor brett unfairly" "this is about the mid-terms" FACT
That was BEFORE - new credible allegations surfaced - the SAME allegations that Republicans were purposefully hiding - and you know what happened next: GOP REFUSED to re-open the FBI investigation to verify if this was real or a smear.
"why did she wait 35 years" "feinstein is a leaker" "there is no proof"
Why can't you be honest?
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 12:31 PM
ST rightwingnutjob assholes trying exonerate, approve K by concentrating on calling Ford a liar
but K's attempted rape is now secondary to his repeated lying, and emotional breakdown last Thu in Congress.
No way that K is fit for SCOTUS
Why can't you be honest?
Everything is laid out plainly - this was done - with the world watching.
1) Hearings started (after the GOP had refused to even hold a hearing for Merrick Garland) - FACT.
2) Hearings were rushed from the start. GOP had their mind made up this was already done - they did not want ANYTHING to delay this confirmation. FACT
3) 93% of the documents were hidden. FACT
4) A white house attorney - RESTRICTED - documents from being discussed or revealed - and marked them as "committee only" - meaning that even if there was some issue that senators had issues on - or questions - to ask kavanaugh about - they were not allowed to make them public. FACT
5) 15 hours before the Hearings started - 142,000 documents were dumped on the committee - leaving Democrats with a shit load of unverified shit sitting before them while they tried to prepare decent questions/issues to query Kavanaugh about. FACT
6) Democrat senators RIGHTFULLY complained and what happened? What did the Republicans respond with? With this: "dems are obstructing" "booker and harris are grandstanding because they are running for president" "dems are horrible people for treating poor breet unfairly" "this is about the mid-terms" FACT
That was BEFORE - new credible allegations surfaced - the SAME allegations that Republicans were purposefully hiding - and you know what happened next: GOP REFUSED to re-open the FBI investigation to verify if this was real or a smear.
"why did she wait 35 years" "feinstein is a leaker" "there is no proof"
Why can't you be honest?
Why can’t you be honest says the guy calling these credible allegations :rollin
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:40 PM
None of what you listed was corroboration.
So tell me -
what earthly reason did she have 5-10-15 years ago to confide about being attacked - to friends/husband/therapist -
on a man who was nowhere near being a sc justice at that time.
Did she look into her future time machine and see that a criminal president would be in office and would appoint a crooked sexual assaulter as sc justice?
Did she find a left wing therapist - as crazy as herself - to go along with a crazy left wing conspiracy that - 6 years into the future - we will pwn the left wing assholes!
I would point out that his crime appears to be a third degree felony with no statute of limitation in the state it happened.
:lol no
Per Chief of Police and State attorney misdemeanor statue of limitations 1 year
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So tell me -
what earthly reason did she have 5-10-15 years ago to confide about being attacked - to friends/husband/therapist -
on a man who was nowhere near being a sc justice at that time.
Did she look into her future time machine and see that a criminal president would be in office and would appoint a crooked sexual assaulter as sc justice?
Did she find a left wing therapist - as crazy as herself - to go along with a crazy left wing conspiracy that - 6 years into the future - we will pwn the right wing assholes!
She testified that she never named Kavenaugh to the therapist.
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 12:57 PM
She testified that she never named Kavenaugh to the therapist.
That is not the issue - experts have already said that a therapist is not thinking of names/details- etc - they are helping her with the trauma.
FBI would have taken that into account and would have reported that OTHER witnesses testify that SHE DID mention kavanaughs name.
That detail actually makes her more credible - because she was - at the time - concerned with her therapy, her trauma and not worried about some left wing conpsiracy - Dr. Ford is not responsible if the therapist marked down names or not.
Again - the FBI - would have interviewed the therapist to get an idea if this was legit or some made up scam.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 01:00 PM
:lol no
Per Chief of Police and State attorney misdemeanor statue of limitations 1 year
1045728838704123904
ah, I stand corrected. I read the law as it stands today, not at the time of the offense.
Fair enough. Finish the phrase for me, mother fucker:
"High crimes and... "
As she mentioned in her testimony, as her own expert witness, missing the little details is exactly what one would expect from anybody, especially trauma victims.
The relevant part... is crystal clear.
In fact, yes or no, can trauma victims not remember some less relevant details, but have fully accurate memories from the event itself?
That is understandable, but also damned convenient. Everyone must recognize that. ALL she has to know is the assault happened. Not when. Not where. Not who was there. Nothing else. HE has to be able to account for every place he was, everything he did for an indeterminate amount of time. Ultimately it doesn't matter. Red will believe him. Blue will her. There will not be enough proof one way or the other (and I'm convinced video of the alleged incident happening or not would not enough. Bottom line is, without evidence, he must be given the benefit of the doubt. These "lies" that are being conjured up that he supposedly uttered are not definable as such. Winehole tried to equate this with Clinton, who was caught saying he didn't have sex with someone when he did. Kavanaugh never said he didn't drink. He never said he didn't drink until he was drunk (in fact he admitted to sometimes drinking too much). The only thing categorically denied was committing sexual assault against anyone, and he testified that he has never blacked out.
I myself was stumbling, stupid, incoherently drunk more times that I can count. I experienced memory loss only one time. Take that single instance away, and I could make the same claim as Kavanaugh. And MANY people, who saw me all those other times, could testify to all kinds of stupid, belligerent shit I got up to.
This whole investigation is silly. People keep thinking there is rape proof out there if the FBI keeps looking. At first, Dems were asking for just 3 days, now the FBI has to keep looking until it substantiates Ford's claims or prove that she made it up. Therein lies (pun intended) the problem. Everyone, including the Dems on the judiciary committee (a good portion of them are prosecutors) know there will not be any evidence that will be discovered, no matter how long this investigation goes on. There's a reason for the statute of limitations because evidence runs stale after 30 years. Moreover, Ford is yet to give anyone concrete facts that can be verified. If you don't know where it was, how she got there, when it was, who was there, and how she got home, how can you investigate? When all the people alleged to have been there deny or don't remember any such gathering, how do you investigate?
Kavanaugh, in trying to prove a negative (which is impossible, especially under Ford's claims), provided the only potential evidence in his calendars, and that's assuming the year is correct since it's changed a bunch of times.
An investigation will show that there is no evidence that this ever occurred.
And then people will say this is a job interview. But is this a typical job interview? No. Normal job interviews don't involve people paying millions to stop you from getting a job. Normal job interviews do not involve newspapers and the FBI digging deep into your background and asking people to come forward with anything potentially contradictory about you. And normal job interviews do not involve people so passionate about you not getting the job, that they have the incentive to make up (other claims against Kavanaugh) or speak up without any proof (Ford). This is not a typical job interview and people that keep referencing it like it is are either insincere or naive.
As she mentioned in her testimony, as her own expert witness, missing the little details is exactly what one would expect from anybody, especially trauma victims.
The relevant part... is crystal clear.
In fact, yes or no, can trauma victims not remember some less relevant details, but have fully accurate memories from the event itself?
But how do we know her memory is crystal clear. Sure, she said that after a week of prep from her attorneys (one of which was recommended by democrats and is heavily involved in the Me Too movement). How do we know they didn't talk her into being certain just like the attorneys did for the second accuser? And how do we know that her memory is correct. It's been 30 years. How do we know that she thinks she remembers, but she's wrong? It's not unreasonable to say that there could be mistaken identity.
CitizenDwayne
10-01-2018, 01:25 PM
ST rightwingnutjob assholes trying exonerate, approve K by concentrating on calling Ford a liar
but K's attempted rape is now secondary to his repeated lying, and emotional breakdown last Thu in Congress.
No way that K is fit for SCOTUS
Pretty much this
Pretty much this
Move them goal posts!
If Kavanaugh perjured himself, he will be impeached, so don't sweat it.
Chucho
10-01-2018, 01:38 PM
So, just boiled down:
Ford being a liar (zero corroboration to her story) has begat a huge rabbit holes of Kavanaugh being just a massive liar, which makes him unfit to be a SC judge and Repubs are super pissed that the original issue (Ford's allegations) are being side stepped because Kav being a ginormous liar is more startling. Is that about right?
Pavlov
10-01-2018, 01:43 PM
So, just boiled down:
Ford being a liar (zero corroboration to her story) has begat a huge rabbit holes of Kavanaugh being just a massive liar, which makes him unfit to be a SC judge and Repubs are super pissed that the original issue (Ford's allegations) are being side stepped because Kav being a ginormous liar is more startling. Is that about right?Kind of. His testimony was pretty stunning with the lies and conspiracy theories. I can see why Trump nominated him tho.
Chucho
10-01-2018, 01:47 PM
Kind of. His testimony was pretty stunning with the lies and conspiracy theories. I can see why Trump nominated him tho.
It pretty much stops with being a proven major liar so far as being a SCOTUS nom goes.
Dems are gonna win this, and they should. Ironically, the "moral" ones will overstep and call Liar McLiarface a rapist based on lies.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 01:54 PM
Move them goal posts!
If Kavanaugh perjured himself, he will be impeached, so don't sweat it.
he may be impeached by a Dem house after Nov elections (but they don't have the balls, the dickless wimps),
but the Repug Senate won't convict, they and WH have invested too much of themselves in covering up for K, for ramming him through to SCOTUS
Pavlov
10-01-2018, 01:55 PM
It pretty much stops with being a proven major liar so far as being a SCOTUS nom goes.
Dems are gonna win this, and they should. Ironically, the "moral" ones will overstep and call Liar McLiarface a rapist based on lies.Yeah, it was just nuts how K won the battle but gave away the war over "Devil's Triangle" and Renate after his Qanon rant.
baseline bum
10-01-2018, 01:57 PM
Yeah, it was just nuts how K won the battle but gave away the war over "Devil's Triangle" and Renate after his Qanon rant.
What do you mean by gave away the war? Do you think those lies are going to cost him the vote of each of Collins, Murkowski, Heitkamp, and Manchin? Because if he gets any one of their votes he is confirmed.
Pavlov
10-01-2018, 02:04 PM
What do you mean by gave away the war? Do you think those lies are going to cost him the vote of each of Collins, Murkowski, Heitkamp, and Manchin? Because if he gets any one of their votes he is confirmed.I should have said "possibly" gave away the war. K's testimony actually gives Democrats another crack at him if they win the house.
But you're right. The FBI investigation seems quaintly circumscribed and unless Avenatti actually has anything, K probably gets the votes.
SnakeBoy
10-01-2018, 02:05 PM
What do you mean by gave away the war? Do you think those lies are going to cost him the vote of each of Collins, Murkowski, Heitkamp, and Manchin? Because if he gets any one of their votes he is confirmed.
I don't think many in this thread understand what show they're watching. They seem to think they're watching court tv or Judge Judy.
Pavlov
10-01-2018, 02:07 PM
I don't think many in this thread understand what show they're watching. They seem to think they're watching court tv or Judge Judy.I said he would be confirmed from the start, dumbass.
hater
10-01-2018, 02:08 PM
I don't think many in this thread understand what show they're watching. They seem to think they're watching court tv or Judge Judy.
:lol
he may be impeached by a Dem house after Nov elections (but they don't have the balls, the dickless wimps),
but the Repug Senate won't convict, they and WH have invested too much of themselves in covering up for K, for ramming him through to SCOTUS
It's a lifetime appointment. Again, if perjury is proven, he will be impeached. There's too much attention being paid to this, and too many pissed people for it to go away. If, however, he did something that falls short of provable perjury, nothing will happen (if he's confirmed).
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 02:14 PM
This whole investigation is silly. People keep thinking there is rape proof out there if the FBI keeps looking. At first, Dems were asking for just 3 days, now the FBI has to keep looking until it substantiates Ford's claims or prove that she made it up. Therein lies (pun intended) the problem. Everyone, including the Dems on the judiciary committee (a good portion of them are prosecutors) know there will not be any evidence that will be discovered, no matter how long this investigation goes on. There's a reason for the statute of limitations because evidence runs stale after 30 years. Moreover, Ford is yet to give anyone concrete facts that can be verified. If you don't know where it was, how she got there, when it was, who was there, and how she got home, how can you investigate? When all the people alleged to have been there deny or don't remember any such gathering, how do you investigate?
Kavanaugh, in trying to prove a negative (which is impossible, especially under Ford's claims), provided the only potential evidence in his calendars, and that's assuming the year is correct since it's changed a bunch of times.
An investigation will show that there is no evidence that this ever occurred.
And then people will say this is a job interview. But is this a typical job interview? No. Normal job interviews don't involve people paying millions to stop you from getting a job. Normal job interviews do not involve newspapers and the FBI digging deep into your background and asking people to come forward with anything potentially contradictory about you. And normal job interviews do not involve people so passionate about you not getting the job, that they have the incentive to make up (other claims against Kavanaugh) or speak up without any proof (Ford). This is not a typical job interview and people that keep referencing it like it is are either insincere or naive.
Then why is the gop/white house scared to death of allowing a fair investigation?
why are they hamstringing the fbi?
What do you mean by gave away the war? Do you think those lies are going to cost him the vote of each of Collins, Murkowski, Heitkamp, and Manchin? Because if he gets any one of their votes he is confirmed.
I think the red state democrats would only vote yes if Collins and Murkowski vote yes.
That faggot Flake is sure doing a lot of interviews about his decision as of the past few days. It will be harder and harder for him to be a yes. That's of course assuming he still has a backbone between now and Friday or whenever the vote is up.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1046829815783919616
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1046834798919143424
That's a lot of shit talking for someone who will vote yes anyways.
Then why is the gop/white house scared to death of allowing a fair investigation?
why are they hamstringing the fbi?
They aren't hamstringing it according to everything I've heard. I heard a few democrats on the Sunday shows say that it was being limited, and then when they asked what evidence or proof they have, they said only that they "heard reports." It's just a whisper campaign. There is a reason why we don't go back and investigate 30 year old allegations with no basis in fact. Sure, if there were some physical evidence or even a location, then maybe, but Ford has given nothing to investigate so likely the FBI will be done investigating after a few days. And it probably only takes a few days because they have to interview all the people over again.
I think the red state democrats would only vote yes if Collins and Murkowski vote yes.
That faggot Flake is sure doing a lot of interviews about his decision as of the past few days. It will be harder and harder for him to be a yes. That's of course assuming he still has a backbone between now and Friday or whenever the vote is up.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1046829815783919616
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1046834798919143424
That's a lot of shit talking for someone who will vote yes anyways.
He is beholden to no one, but my guess is that he'll have cover after the FBI "investigation" and vote yes. That said, the reason he isn't running anymore is because he fought with Trump and it cost him his seat in Arizona. So maybe he votes no as a final middle finger to Trump. That's entirely possible.
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Pavlov
10-01-2018, 02:50 PM
DEVASTATING!
Spurs Homer
10-01-2018, 03:02 PM
They aren't hamstringing it according to everything I've heard. I heard a few democrats on the Sunday shows say that it was being limited, and then when they asked what evidence or proof they have, they said only that they "heard reports." It's just a whisper campaign. There is a reason why we don't go back and investigate 30 year old allegations with no basis in fact. Sure, if there were some physical evidence or even a location, then maybe, but Ford has given nothing to investigate so likely the FBI will be done investigating after a few days. And it probably only takes a few days because they have to interview all the people over again.
It was confirmed in the news just a short while ago that the white house did indeed restrict the fbi.
However , Flake spoke up and Collins spoke up about having a real investigation - and not just “to give us cover” to still confirm kavanaugh.
So now the WH has taken off the restrictions- but the fbi already lost3 days.
Disgraceful corrupt repukes covering up crimes.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 03:03 PM
They aren't hamstringing it according to everything I've heard. .
Repugs/WH are shooting up a bunch of flak to cause confusion, chaos.
ex-FBI people, very probably in contact with their FBI buddies, say the investigation is severely restricted in scope and time.
aka, COVERUP with a pro forma / fraudulent, incomplete investigation.
spurraider21
10-01-2018, 03:12 PM
DEVASTATING!
MUELLER MADNESS
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 03:21 PM
Shortly after the 2016 election, Tina Fey took to task the white women who had helped elect Donald Trump, providing him with 52 percent of their support. Fey particularly focused her remarks on college-educated white women, 44 percent of whom voted for Trump, chastising them for wanting to “go back to watching HGTV” and forget about the election. “You can’t look away,” Fey implored. “Because it doesn’t affect you this minute, but it’s going to affect you eventually.”
New evidence suggests many of these women may now agree with Fey. In the wake of sexual-assault allegations against the Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, a Morning Consult/Politico poll found that President Trump’s net support among Republican women had dropped by 19 points.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/will-white-suburban-women-vote-republican-november/571720
... and I thought women were annoyed before... yikes. Talked to more than one normally GOP-leaning woman in the last week who is PISSED, and sought me out as the Democrat they know.
Chris
10-01-2018, 03:23 PM
lol Tina Fey
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 03:29 PM
It's a lifetime appointment. Again, if perjury is proven, he will be impeached. There's too much attention being paid to this, and too many pissed people for it to go away. If, however, he did something that falls short of provable perjury, nothing will happen (if he's confirmed).
He was willing to lie to be on the supreme court. He was nakedly partisan in his response to this, finally showing his true colors.
He will be anything but an impartial arbiter of the law, who openly supports a king-like executive branch, contrary to everything the founding fathers feared.
If this is the best the GOP has to offer... fuck them, and the horse they rode in on.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 03:30 PM
lol Tina Fey
(shrugs)
We will see. Go ahead and post that "red wave" political cartoon again. I will have a great deal of fun making you look like a bigger idiot than you already do.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 03:31 PM
maybe K and/or Judge drove their victim home.
Mitchell talked to Ford for only 15 MINUTES and decided against charging K with a crime, just like a good Repug hired shill would.
Hilarious how the alt-Reich / right wing hate media is focusing on Ford, while ignoring K's nervous, emotional breakdown from the stress and exposure of all his lies.
"Gimme that seat, it's MINE!"
ducks
10-01-2018, 03:33 PM
Time to release names of Congress people who settled sex acussions with tax people’s
Money
ducks
10-01-2018, 03:34 PM
maybe K and/or Judge drove their victim home.
Mitchell talked to Ford for only 15 MINUTES and decided against charging K with a crime, just like a good Repug hired shill would.
Hilarious how the alt-Reich / right wing hate media is focusing on Ford, while ignoring K's nervous, emotional breakdown from the stress and exposure of all his lies.
"Gimme that seat, it's MINE!"
Maybe it never happened
ducks
10-01-2018, 03:35 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/will-white-suburban-women-vote-republican-november/571720
... and I thought women were annoyed before... yikes. Talked to more than one normally GOP-leaning woman in the last week who is PISSED, and sought me out as the Democrat they know.when was the poll
Chris
10-01-2018, 03:49 PM
(shrugs)
We will see. Go ahead and post that "red wave" political cartoon again. I will have a great deal of fun making you look like a bigger idiot than you already do.
Yeah you do the troll thing. That's you.
monosylab1k
10-01-2018, 03:51 PM
Yeah you do the troll thing. That's you.
So do you :tu
pgardn
10-01-2018, 04:01 PM
Here ya go
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/rachel-mitchell-kavanaugh-ford/index.html
You did not read the article——> Tweeter———>Chris did you?
The Republican lady from Sheriff Joe A’s territory said something ENTIRELY different according to those articles.
Of course there is no way she brings a case against K with her accuser after 36 years and only The good Dr. as a witness testifying. Your problem is you think this is a trial. So in this so called trial what are the charges? and if found guilty what kind of jail time we looking at for K?
It was confirmed in the news just a short while ago that the white house did indeed restrict the fbi.
However , Flake spoke up and Collins spoke up about having a real investigation - and not just “to give us cover” to still confirm kavanaugh.
So now the WH has taken off the restrictions- but the fbi already lost3 days.
Disgraceful corrupt repukes covering up crimes.
I believe this is a broad right to investigate: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/trump-fbi-kavanaugh.html
But let's be honest, unless it comes back with dirt that would allow Dems to sink the nomination, the investigation will never be good or thorough enough. Complaining about the exhaustiveness of the investigation is just a Democrat's way of attempting to delegitimize the investigation when it comes back with zero. A bunch of the Dem committee members are former prosecutors. They know this investigation will yield nothing. There goal is to make it go on as long as possible and then delegitimize it anyway that they can.
Republicans obviously don't want an open ended investigation. That feeds into the narrative that the more you investigate, the more leads you will have to investigate. And even if the leads go no where, they know Dems will be calling for further investigations. Suddenly, three day FBI investigation they were calling for is not long enough. Now they'll say they need a three month investigation.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 04:42 PM
when was the poll
(facepalm)
It's linked in the second paragraph.
A new Morning Consult/Politico poll, conducted Sept. 20-23
https://morningconsult.com/2018/09/26/republican-women-lose-faith-kavanaugh-trump-after-week-accusations/
The optics haven't improved since then. Her tearful bravery against his snide distain.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 04:45 PM
While I'm sure the WH/Senate will both restrict the FBI into irrelevance AND ignore, even classify, the findings
it doesn't matter
K's nervous breakdown last Thu, ( stressed out much, Brett? maybe you'll feel how it is to live PTSD, lotsa beer helps ) and his repeated, proven lying is more than enough to conclude that he is unfit for ANY judge ship.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 05:04 PM
Yeah you do the troll thing. That's you.
Your posts warrant little else. Lazy "own the libs" stuff.
You can't, or won't defend your chosen party's ideas, that that it has any.
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 05:05 PM
The Last Week Tonight host summarized the Senate Judiciary Committee’s message as, “We believe you — we just don’t care.”
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/1/17924724/brett-kavanaugh-john-oliver-last-week-tonight
John Oliver: Kavanaugh’s Senate hearing was a “fuck you” to women
RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 05:07 PM
If anything, Oliver said, Kavanaugh’s testimony only seemed to underline just how unfit he is for the Supreme Court — as well as cast even more aspersions on his supposed innocence. He specifically cited an exchange that Kavanaugh had with Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), in which she asked him whether he’d ever blacked out from drinking, and he responded, “I don’t know, have you?”
“Aside from being deeply disrespectful, ‘Have you?’ is just not the answer of an innocent person,” Oliver pointed out, noting just how easy it would have been to simply say no if that was in fact the truth. “If you ask someone if they ever blew a dog and they go, ‘I dunno, have you?’ that person blew a dog.”
gambit1990
10-01-2018, 05:12 PM
HEY KAV, GET FUCKED:
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RandomGuy
10-01-2018, 05:12 PM
: The fact that Kavanaugh’s testimony was a mess didn’t actually matter. Some Republican senators — including Orrin Hatch (UT) and Lindsey Graham (SC) — had seemingly already made up their minds before the hearing began, as had the conservatives throwing their weight behind Kavanaugh’s nomination. It didn’t matter whether or not he’d committed sexual assault; he would further conservative goals, such as curtailing abortion rights, and that was that.
“It’s a stance that prioritizes human lives, as long as you think life begins at conception, stops right before a sexual assault, and then starts right back up again as soon as that assault is over,” Oliver said, earning raucous applause from his studio audience as he came to his central point: “It feels like they’re doing this just to deliver a ‘fuck you’ to Democrats and, even more directly, a ‘fuck you’ to women.”
djohn2oo8
10-01-2018, 05:17 PM
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10-01-2018, 05:18 PM
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boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 05:18 PM
The Last Week Tonight host summarized the Senate Judiciary Committee’s message as, “We believe you — we just don’t care.”
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/1/17924724/brett-kavanaugh-john-oliver-last-week-tonight
John Oliver: Kavanaugh’s Senate hearing was a “fuck you” to women
JO is one the best journalists in USA and he's British joker.
He's addressed so much fucked up shit in USA that commercial journalists won't / can't touch.
djohn2oo8
10-01-2018, 05:20 PM
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djohn2oo8
10-01-2018, 05:21 PM
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DarrinS
10-01-2018, 05:22 PM
JO is one the best journalists in USA and he's British joker..
:lmao
Jon Stewart’s disciples managed to simultaneously ruin comedy, journalism, and late night talk shows.
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 05:25 PM
Looks like K's school/college "friends" are not friends who will cover up for him.
djohn2oo8
10-01-2018, 05:26 PM
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lawdy!
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Bye RapeK.
The Last Week Tonight host summarized the Senate Judiciary Committee’s message as, “We believe you — we just don’t care.”
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/1/17924724/brett-kavanaugh-john-oliver-last-week-tonight
John Oliver: Kavanaugh’s Senate hearing was a “fuck you” to women
That's kind of an easy out. I mean, the Kavanaugh allegation is very different from the other allegations in the Me Too Movement. For one, he was in high school and not in a position of power to be able to suppress his alleged victim. But also, the allegations against guys like Weinstein, Matt Lauer, and other movie stars or powerful people in the news is that there were multiple women that could allege times, places, and a pattern of behavior that demonstrated consistently what was going on.
The troubling part of this story is that it is an event that happened 35 years ago and there is no evidence of its existence. The witnesses that were alleged to be there have no memory of the event. And the lone accuser forgets so many important facts, like how she got there, who's house, how she got home, etc. and confuses her story that it is just as likely that if she was sexually assaulted, it was someone other than Kavanaugh. With all these questions unanswered, the allegation is nothing like say Harvey Weinstein or Russell Simmons. Yet people want to give Ford the presumption she is telling the truth in accusing Kavanaugh while presuming that Kavanaugh is lying on unverifiable allegations from 35 years ago. Look, I'm not saying that things didn't happen like Ford is saying, I'm just saying there is no evidence and no way to verify that what Ford is saying is true and that if she was sexually assaulted, it was Kavanaugh. That being the case, why are people acting like Kavanaugh must take the brunt of the me too movement? It's like all these protesters that are complaining that they were sexually assaulted are claiming that it is Kavanaugh that must be punished or stopped for what happened to them by someone else.
Mock this if you want, but any allegation made by Kavanaugh could be made against anyone. He won't be the last person that gets this type of allegation and the next person may be a Democrat. Caveat Emptor.
Chris
10-01-2018, 05:42 PM
pXssItBEPug
djohn2oo8
10-01-2018, 05:43 PM
It’s only Monday and Kavanuagh caught lying under oath lol
boutons_deux
10-01-2018, 05:44 PM
"The troubling part of this story is that it is an event that happened 35 years ago and there is no evidence of its existence. "
Ford's claim is now irrelevant. I've gone way past it.
K's nervous stress breakdown on TV, even sniffly (coke sniffles) reading his prepared script/strategy, and repeated lying is evidence that he's unfit and should be impeached/convicted.
Chris
10-01-2018, 05:45 PM
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Chris
10-01-2018, 05:46 PM
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djohn2oo8
10-01-2018, 05:49 PM
Some brown stuff running down Chris’ shorts.
Chris
10-01-2018, 05:50 PM
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Interesting gloss over RapeK's multiple perjuries. I bet he won't be working on that. :lol
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