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boutons_deux
09-17-2018, 04:19 PM
Tea Partier Joe Walsh just declared war on Donald Trump Jr. in brutal Twitter attack
Over the weekend, Trump Jr. mocked the woman (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/406965-trump-jr-mocks-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-allegation-with)who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were younger.
Now, former Tea Party Congressman Joe Walsh has taken to Twitter to denounce Trump Jr.’s behavior.
He said that regardless of the validity of Ford’s allegations
“we can all agree” that Donald Trump Jr. is an “uncaring, narrow-minded idiot.”
The description, which normally could be applied to Walsh himself, is apt.
The fact that Joe Walsh —
an unhinged loon who has in the past advocated for the violent overthrow of Democratic politicians (https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/joe-walsh-donald-trump-protest-tweet/index.html) —
feels a need to insult the Republican president’s son shows just how truly detestable Donald Trump Jr. is.
https://washingtonpress.com/2018/09/17/tea-partier-joe-walsh-just-declared-war-on-donald-trump-jr-in-brutal-twitter-attack/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_qHU_6Ofc0
ducks
09-17-2018, 04:21 PM
Kavanaugh has said he was not at the party where the incident was alleged to have occurred, according to a White House official.
Republican Senator Orrin Hatch said he spoke with Kavanaugh on Monday. "The judge, who I know very, very well, is an honest man, so this didn't happen," Hatch said.
The farther these women went and had was that he grabbed them at the wrong place while taking a picture with him. :lol
Dont be more more of a joke than you already are, guy.
Assuming he did grabbed their tits or ass inadvertently, doesn't mean he's a serial sexual assaulter or that he did it on purpose.
By my recollection, there were only 2 credible women who came forward, one of them being the one where he's "grabbing" the tits of a sleeping woman and the other where he's assumed to be grabbing some chick's ass but cannot be seen.
Dude took hundreds of pictures with people. He's not going to refute every single one of those occasions one by one. Instead he did the sensible thing which was to apologize and move on. And resign.
Get your head out of your ass. Franken's situation is nothing like Trump's or Kavanaugh's.
Grabbing girls by the pussy vs attempted rape vs grabbing ass.
Pick your poison little virgin faggot.
I can't speak to Trump because who knows what that guy's done. But I'm always amazed at Ted Kennedy, one of the most celebrated politicians on the left and how he must be laughing in the grave at the "attempted rape" allegation knowing that he did worse every weekend and not one of his colleagues ever condemned his behavior.
Kavanaugh has said he was not at the party where the incident was alleged to have occurred, according to a White House official.
Republican Senator Orrin Hatch said he spoke with Kavanaugh on Monday. "The judge, who I know very, very well, is an honest man, so this didn't happen," Hatch said.
I wouldn't put any stock in that, though. I mean, she hasn't given a date or a location to my knowledge, so how can he deny that. I think we need to get the whole story and then decide if it is credible or not.
boutons_deux
09-17-2018, 04:26 PM
White House sources:
FBI is being blocked from vetting Kavanaugh sexual assault claims
because Trump won’t order it
Two sources told Bloomberg News (https://trib.al/PFBu48V) on Monday that the White House has not given a green light for the FBI to investigate Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations that Kavanaugh groped and assaulted her.
The sources said that the FBI can not move forward with an investigation without the permission of the White House.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/white-house-sources-fbi-blocked-vetting-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-trump-wont-order/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
White House sources:
FBI is being blocked from vetting Kavanaugh sexual assault claims
because Trump won’t order it
Two sources told Bloomberg News (https://trib.al/PFBu48V) on Monday that the White House has not given a green light for the FBI to investigate Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations that Kavanaugh groped and assaulted her.
The sources said that the FBI can not move forward with an investigation without the permission of the White House.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/white-house-sources-fbi-blocked-vetting-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-trump-wont-order/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
That's funny because it's been reported that the information was given by Feinstein to the FBI and they looked into it. I think you are getting your information from the same type of websites that thought Obama was born in Kenya.
SnakeBoy
09-17-2018, 04:34 PM
This is just a desperate attempt by democrats to delay the nomination past the midterms. Totally predictable behaviour from that shitty party. Hey democrats just do your job and have the vote okay, got it.
This is just a desperate attempt by democrats to delay the nomination past the midterms. Totally predictable behaviour from that shitty party. Hey democrats just do your job and have the vote okay, got it.
Your presense is still requested at the millennial thread, snakeboi.
:lol
ducks
09-17-2018, 04:41 PM
4. Why Do Her Therapist’s Notes Conflict With Her Account? Ford showed her therapist’s notes to The Washington Post. Those notes conflict with her account. The notes don’t include names, instead stating that the alleged perpetrators were “from an elitist boys’ school,” and had since become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes also state that four boys were involved, not two; she says her therapist got it wrong, and that there were four boys at the party but only two boys involved. Another therapy session the following year includes the charge that Ford underwent a “rape attempt” in “her late teens,” but she was allegedly 15 – not late teens – when this incident occurred. Her husband, who was present for the first therapy session, said Kavanaugh’s name was raised, but the Post account doesn’t say that Kavanaugh was called the alleged perpetrator.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/35935/6-questions-about-sexual-assault-allegations-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
ducks
09-17-2018, 04:43 PM
5. She Doesn’t Remember Key Details. According to the Post, she doesn’t remember key details:
She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982, when she was 15, around the end of her sophomore year at the all-girls Holton-Arms School in Bethesda. Kavanaugh would have been 17 at the end of his junior year at Georgetown Prep….Ford said she does not remember how the gathering came together the night of the incident. She said she often spent time in the summer at the Columbia Country Club pool in Chevy Chase, where in those pre-cellphone days, teenagers learned about gatherings via word of mouth. She also doesn’t recall who owned the house or how she got there. Ford said she remembers that it was in Montgomery County, not far from the country club, and that no parents were home at the time. Ford named two other teenagers who she said were at the party. Those individuals did not respond to messages on Sunday morning.
6. Why Aren’t Any Other Women Coming Forward? In other cases, many women come forward. In fact, it’s difficult to think of another high-profile #MeToo case without multiple accusers.
hater
09-17-2018, 04:46 PM
He said she said
Nothing burger
Supreme Court Kavanaughty will be confirmd :lol
ducks
09-17-2018, 04:47 PM
The Washington Post reported on Monday that two women who dated Judge Brett Kavanaugh — one in high school, the other in college — have now gone on record defending his character and how he treats women.
boutons_deux
09-17-2018, 04:54 PM
Republicans Still Don’t Have The Votes And May Pressure Trump To Dump Kavanaugh
It is being reported that if the votes aren’t there to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court by the end of the day,
Senate Republicans may begin to pressure Trump to withdraw his nomination.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/09/17/republicans-still-dont-have-the-votes-and-may-pressure-trump-to-dump-kavanaugh.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/09/17/republicans-still-dont-have-the-votes-and-may-pressure-trump-to-dump-kavanaugh.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)
boutons_deux
09-17-2018, 04:56 PM
That's funny because it's been reported that the information was given by Feinstein to the FBI and they looked into it. I think you are getting your information from the same type of websites that thought Obama was born in Kenya.
I read the FBI only added the Ford item to K's file,
is that what you call "looked into it"?
A fully blown FBI investigation is a lot more than "looked into it"
iow, G F Y, and don't fuck with The Great Boutons.
CosmicCowboy
09-17-2018, 04:59 PM
White House sources:
FBI is being blocked from vetting Kavanaugh sexual assault claims
because Trump won’t order it
Two sources told Bloomberg News (https://trib.al/PFBu48V) on Monday that the White House has not given a green light for the FBI to investigate Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations that Kavanaugh groped and assaulted her.
The sources said that the FBI can not move forward with an investigation without the permission of the White House.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/white-house-sources-fbi-blocked-vetting-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-trump-wont-order/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Da fuck? Since when did the white house assign FBI cases?
spurraider21
09-17-2018, 05:01 PM
This is just a desperate attempt by democrats to delay the nomination past the midterms. Totally predictable behaviour from that shitty party. Hey democrats just do your job and have the vote okay, got it.
yeah. what a shitty party to delay a SCOTUS nomination past the election.
I read the FBI only added the Ford item to K's file,
is that what you call "looked into it"?
A fully blown FBI investigation is a lot more than "looked into it"
iow, G F Y, and don't fuck with The Great Boutons.
They determined it was not credible enough to launch a criminal investigation. So they put it in a file. Nothing says that Trump told him not to investigate and in fact, he can't do that.
yeah. what a shitty party to delay a SCOTUS nomination past the election.
Ah, everyone knows it's politics, but it does go both ways. It's only a foul when it's the party you don't like that does it.
Spurminator
09-17-2018, 05:12 PM
Ah, everyone knows it's politics, but it does go both ways. It's only a foul when it's the party you don't like that does it.
It's only "everybody does it, it's politics" when it's the party you like doing it.
djohn2oo8
09-17-2018, 05:14 PM
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baseline bum
09-17-2018, 05:19 PM
Ah, everyone knows it's politics, but it does go both ways. It's only a foul when it's the party you don't like that does it.
How does it go both ways? The Democrats confirmed Kennedy before an election. Garland didn't even get a fucking vote. Hard to call that shit equivalent.
pgardn
09-17-2018, 05:20 PM
The farther these women went and had was that he grabbed them at the wrong place while taking a picture with him. :lol
Dont be more more of a joke than you already are, guy.
Assuming he did grabbed their tits or ass inadvertently, doesn't mean he's a serial sexual assaulter or that he did it on purpose.
By my recollection, there were only 2 credible women who came forward, one of them being the one where he's "grabbing" the tits of a sleeping woman and the other where he's assumed to be grabbing some chick's ass but cannot be seen.
Dude took hundreds of pictures with people. He's not going to refute every single one of those occasions one by one. Instead he did the sensible thing which was to apologize and move on. And resign.
Get your head out of your ass. Franken's situation is nothing like Trump's or Kavanaugh's.
Grabbing girls by the pussy vs attempted rape vs grabbing ass.
Pick your poison little virgin faggot.
What will I tell my daughter and wife...
So wreck-the-fuckwit is all in on blue and can’t see straight. Did not know that.
Going to go take pictures and let those hands roam because I take thousands of them and they just get in the wrong place.
And I never said his situation was the same but that does not make it right. Oh, it’s not as bad. Just had a squeeze or a butt slap. You need my help learning how to treat women appropriately Don Juan?
gtfoh
djohn2oo8
09-17-2018, 05:21 PM
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Spurtacular
09-17-2018, 05:24 PM
You're trying to change the subject from duxx actually doxxing someone.
You are also a piece of shit.
lol derp defending derp's alt
I'm not changing the subject. I'm just ascertaining the level of convenience on your moral outrage. It seems quite convenient at this point.
pgardn
09-17-2018, 05:25 PM
How does it go both ways? The Democrats confirmed Kennedy before an election. Garland didn't even get a fucking vote. Hard to call that shit equivalent.
Red team is eventually going to pay for that.
Pavlov
09-17-2018, 05:30 PM
I'm not changing the subject. I'm just ascertaining the level of convenience on your moral outrage. It seems quite convenient at this point.Post your name, address and phone number if it's no big deal.
Let's see them.
Spurtacular
09-17-2018, 05:35 PM
Post your name, address and phone number if it's no big deal.
Let's see them.
So, your inherent point is that doxing is very bad and that CNN is thusly a piece of shit for threatening to do this to people?
It's only "everybody does it, it's politics" when it's the party you like doing it.
No, it's actually both parties that do it. Whether you like it or not depends on the party in power.
Pavlov
09-17-2018, 05:36 PM
So, your inherent point is that doxing is very bad and that CNN is thusly a piece of shit for threatening to do this to people?Were they victims of an assault? You think it's worse that the accuser actually got doxxed.
Thanks for agreeing with me.
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 05:36 PM
No, it's actually both parties that do it. Whether you like it or not depends on the party in power.
What a load of false equivalence bullshit.
How does it go both ways? The Democrats confirmed Kennedy before an election. Garland didn't even get a fucking vote. Hard to call that shit equivalent.
Because delaying and stalling federal judge appointments happens every time you have a President and a Senate that are controlled by two different parties. Federal judges are appointed the same as Supreme Court justices, just with less media coverage. Look, I don't disagree that Garland got a raw deal and was more than qualified, but if Hillary hand not blown the election, the Dems would have nominated someone even more liberal. The GOP took a gamble on that and won. Dems are now trying to use this allegation as a late in the game delay tactic to keep a vote for Kavanaugh off the table until after the mid-terms gambling that if they can retake the Senate the can get a more center appointment. It might work depending on how credible the accuser is at the hearing and how credible Kavanaugh is.
What a load of false equivalence bullshit.
Yes, Democrats are so above playing political games. Please. You diminish your credibility when you do not acknowledge the obvious.
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 05:42 PM
Yes, Democrats are so above playing political games. Please. You diminish your credibility when you do not acknowledge the obvious.
You mean the obvious that the Democrats confirmed Kennedy in an election year while the Republicans didn't give Garland a fucking vote?
You mean the obvious that the Democrats confirmed Kennedy in an election year while the Republicans didn't give Garland a fucking vote?
No, I mean that dems like Harry Reid change the rules of the game when it suits him and if when it comes back to bite him, he has to live with the consequences.
Spurtacular
09-17-2018, 05:44 PM
Were they victims of an assault? You think it's worse that the accuser actually got doxxed.
Thanks for agreeing with me.
:lol It's funny watching your supreme moral outrage quelled by your shifting sociopath values.
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 05:44 PM
No, I mean that dems like Harry Reid change the rules of the game when it suits him and if when it comes back to bite him, he has to live with the consequences.
So you want to completely ignore the obvious that the Democrats confirmed Kennedy in an election year while the Repbulicans wouldn't give Garland a fucking vote.
Pavlov
09-17-2018, 05:44 PM
:lol It's funny watching your supreme moral outrage quelled by your shifting sociopath values.So you're against the actual doxxing of the accuser?
Yes or no.
Step up.
What were the people doing who were threatened with doxxing by CNN?
Post your name, address and phone number if it's no big deal.
Let's see them.
Which one? He likes to be called Shirley at nights when he comes out yearning for trannies and shemales.
You mean the obvious that the Democrats confirmed Kennedy in an election year while the Republicans didn't give Garland a fucking vote?
We all know that the Kavenaugh rape allegation was a card the Dems knew about and held until after the hearings as a delay tactic to stall a vote on Kavenaugh. Is it underhanded? Yes, but that is what both sides do in politics. Republicans that are outraged today will not be outraged the next time they try the tactic to their favor.
Isitjustme?
09-17-2018, 05:47 PM
We gonna derail this bish
Hehe
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 05:49 PM
We all know that the Kavenaugh rape allegation was a card the Dems knew about and held until after the hearings as a delay tactic to stall a vote on Kavenaugh. Is it underhanded? Yes, but that is what both sides do in politics. Republicans that are outraged today will not be outraged the next time they try the tactic to their favor.
No but we do all know the Democrats confirmed Kennedy in an election year while the Republicans wouldn't even give Garland a fucking vote.
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 05:50 PM
We gonna derail this bish
Hehe
Kavanaugh is a piece of shit, fuck this faggot. LOL someone on Ken Starr's team having the nerve to say that presidents shouldn't be able to be put under investigation.
No but we do all know the Democrats confirmed Kennedy in an election year while the Republicans wouldn't even give Garland a fucking vote.
Well, history has shown that when the presidency and the Senate are of opposing parties, they let the election decide. I think Kennedy was nominated the year before the election year, but was confirmed early in the election year. But there are no rules on this. The rule is what the Senate decides, and since the Dems lost the Senate, it's really just crying over spilled milk. You can keep crying, but it doesn't mean anything. And it's not like the Republicans didn't make a big gamble by holding off on Garland. It was clear if Hillary won that she would nominate a more liberal candidate to replace Scalia and if she had, with four years to go before another election, she would have won that appointment. And how many people thought Hillary was going to win? I'm sure you did. But she didn't. To the victors come the spoils. We all know what goes around comes around, so I'm sure the roles will be reversed in the future. When that happens, I'm sure you'll be disgusted about how the Dems act and complain that it isn't fair what they are doing.
Isitjustme?
09-17-2018, 06:09 PM
Kavanaugh got to second base when he was in high school! Call the FBI!!!!!
:lmao
We did call the FBI actually
Isitjustme?
09-17-2018, 06:10 PM
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This is a good tweet which aged well
Isitjustme?
09-17-2018, 06:12 PM
I'm really not sure why I come into this forum. Full of complete morons tbh.1041423682751668224
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 06:19 PM
Well, history has shown that when the presidency and the Senate are of opposing parties, they let the election decide.
No, history has shown only McConnell did that. History shows the Democrats not only gave hearing and a vote but a confirmation to Reagan's pick Kennedy. You're the one crying, complaining about Democrat obstructionism when that is the precedent McConnell has set. You want to whine about it now even though obstructionism is the only reason the Republicans have control in the Supreme Court. I will never complain about the Democrats obstructing Republicans after the act the GOP pulled from 2009-16. McConnell broke congress, he doesn't just get to have it back working again when it's his guy who can sign laws and nominate judges now.
Spurminator
09-17-2018, 06:24 PM
What's more, this supposed "obstruction" by Democrats is happening during a vetting process, when Congress is tasked with determining whether this person is worthy of a lifetime appointment to the highest Court in the country. You may take issue with the methods but I'd rather see an overly critical examination by either party than a bunch of "Golly, we sure do like that you're a girls basketball coach, shucks you got my vote" softballs by the GOP. At least one side is actually doing the job of vetting.
The Republican obstruction involved blocking Merrick Garland from even having the chance to be considered. Again, refusing to do their job of vetting.
Spurs Homer
09-17-2018, 06:46 PM
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boom!
pgardn
09-17-2018, 06:51 PM
What's more, this supposed "obstruction" by Democrats is happening during a vetting process, when Congress is tasked with determining whether this person is worthy of a lifetime appointment to the highest Court in the country. You may take issue with the methods but I'd rather see an overly critical examination by either party than a bunch of "Golly, we sure do like that you're a girls basketball coach, shucks you got my vote" softballs by the GOP. At least one side is actually doing the job of vetting.
The Republican obstruction involved blocking Merrick Garland from even having the chance to be considered. Again, refusing to do their job of vetting.
Absolutely
SnakeBoy
09-17-2018, 07:07 PM
yeah. what a shitty party to delay a SCOTUS nomination past the election.
Please end your posts with "okay", "got it", or both in memoriam
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:17 PM
KAVANAUGH ACCUSER IS AN ANTI-TRUMP LEFTIST WHO ATTENDED WOMEN’S MARCH, DONATED TO DNC
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 07:22 PM
KAVANAUGH ACCUSER IS AN ANTI-TRUMP LEFTIST WHO ATTENDED WOMEN’S MARCH, DONATED TO DNC
caps lock nigga
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:24 PM
https://m.imgur.com/yTEipFs
Ford parents had foreclosure case ruled against by Brett
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:27 PM
caps lock nigga
NO SHIT
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:28 PM
https://m.imgur.com/yTEipFs
Ford parents had foreclosure case ruled against by Brett
Damm what a way to payback
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 07:28 PM
NO SHIT
You still have it on
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:29 PM
Did you go to 16 years of school to figure that out?
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:32 PM
You still have it on
You still live in la?
Noticed cox is only 5 percent behind in being gov of California
spurraider21
09-17-2018, 07:51 PM
Did you go to 16 years of school to figure that out?
you figure a computer repair expert would realize when his caps lock key is on
ducks
09-17-2018, 07:59 PM
You would figure the computer expert turn it on for a reason
baseline bum
09-17-2018, 08:01 PM
You would figure the computer expert turn it on for a reason
Hit the wrong button when trying to ALT+TAB out of youporn?
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:19 PM
Aziz Ansari and Ed Westwick.Aziz Ansari got accused of being a creepy date, pretty subjective, but ok, you take his side for some reason. Were you there?
It's not like he's a pariah or outcast, still a professional performer.
Who is Ed Westwick and why should I care?
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:23 PM
also, pretty short list.
Spurminator
09-17-2018, 09:27 PM
Hit the wrong button when trying to ALT+TAB out of youporn?
You really think someone wound up as tightly as ducks watches porn?
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:38 PM
here's Aziz Ansari at the US Open, with his hottie physics grad student gf.
dude is clearly suffering from the takedown:
https://i2.wp.com/hopclear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/serena1.jpg?resize=551%2C436&ssl=1 (https://hopclear.com/aziz-ansari-steps-out-with-his-new-girlfriend-since-metoo-movement/)
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:39 PM
also featured in US Magazine, MSN & etc....
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:41 PM
there's no evidence Ed Westwick was accused unfairly, just that prosecutors didn't think they could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
that's not exoneration, it's prosecutorial discretion.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/ed-westwick-sexual-assault-work-soon-interview-white-gold-a8498121.html
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:42 PM
pretty weak so far, cd98.
what else you got besides sand in your drawers?
here's Aziz Ansari at the US Open, with his hottie physics grad student gf.
dude is clearly suffering from the takedown:
https://i2.wp.com/hopclear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/serena1.jpg?resize=551%2C436&ssl=1 (https://hopclear.com/aziz-ansari-steps-out-with-his-new-girlfriend-since-metoo-movement/)
It wasn't much of a takedown. A lot of women actually came to his defense after reading the allegations against him.
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:49 PM
It wasn't much of a takedown. A lot of women actually came to his defense after reading the allegations against him.it's the broad brush cd98 wishes to use on everyone who comes forward with with an allegation of sexual abuse.
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 09:50 PM
but, yeah, people aren't as dumb as he suggests. even on the left.
ducks
09-17-2018, 09:57 PM
Hit the wrong button when trying to ALT+TAB out of youporn?
My personal computer is a Mac
I work on macs and windows and Ubuntu
Did not work on Spanish Mac yet
Windows I worked on Spanish,French, Chinese and English !
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 10:00 PM
fuck off, ducks
you're a piece of shit.
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:02 PM
Camerota asked if Ford has tried to talk to any of the other partygoers to see if they will corroborate her story, but Katz declined to place the burden of proof on her client.
“That’s not her job to do that. If this is going to be investigated, it should be done by investigators,” Katz asserted.
More questions
She is a lying sob
Spurs Homer
09-17-2018, 10:25 PM
The sexual assaulter in chief nominates another sexual assaulter and the corrupt GOP is bending over backwards and staining their already shitty corrupt reputation even further by bending over backwards to give the sexual assaulter in chief a win.
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:26 PM
Please
Provide
Actually
Proof
He
Is
Guilty
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 10:28 PM
there's no need to provide proof of anything.
both accuser and accused will speak to the US Senate.
the Senators will hear both and vote their consciences.
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:28 PM
Nothing on internet today has convinced people he is guilty that we’re for him before this came out
I have looked at liberal sites also
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 10:29 PM
there's little reason to worry, ducks.
they already have their minds made up.
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:30 PM
Could you imagine this coming out when Ruth was confirmed
She “raped” a man
Pavlov
09-17-2018, 10:31 PM
Could you imagine this coming out when Ruth was confirmed
She “raped” a manSeriously fuck off, dude.
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:31 PM
Katz said on CNN on Monday that investigators should be responsible for proving Christine Blasey Ford’s claim that Kavanaugh held her down and drunkenly groped her while at a party in high school.
Who are they going to ask?
She does not even know for sure it was 1982
If it happened she would remember date and time ask rape victims
Spurs Homer
09-17-2018, 10:34 PM
Please
Provide
Actually
Proof
He
Is
Guilty
The proof happens when the corrupt GOP - stops this charade, asks the White House to authorize the FBI to investigate and then wait until the FBI either clears the guy or finds evidence.
If the FBI clears him - then they can go on with their process and confirm the guy.
If the woman makes a formal accusation under the penalty of perjury and her story proves to be lies - she can be charged with a crime for false statements.
The corrupt GOP will not do this.
The White House will not ask the FBI to investigate.
They are corrupt and dishonest and will just confirm a sexual assaulter and a guy who perjured himself already.
They will stupidly allow the sexual assaulter in chief to pick another sexual offender.
Just watch.
The only way to stop it is if one or two Republicans put honor and their country over party and vote against.
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:35 PM
Seriously fuck off, dude.
He had a speedy on she was trying to pull it off she was drinking wine
She pushed him in her bedroom and locked the door
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:35 PM
It is a local case not the fbi case
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:38 PM
It is dishonest to keep the letter from July and not turn it in to fbi then it
Or bring it out in 4 days of hearing
Democracts did not do that
Very corrupt and dishonest
Spurs Homer
09-17-2018, 10:38 PM
It is a local case not the fbi case
The FBI can re-open or open a case it had already started - which it happens to be the case here - (Kavanaughs background) -
or
they could reopen and allow the state (Maryland?) to conduct it.
Except - the only way is if the White House authorizes it. They won't.
(according to talking heads on news shows today)
Spurs Homer
09-17-2018, 10:41 PM
It is dishonest to keep the letter from July and not turn it in to fbi then it
Or bring it out in 4 days of hearing
Democracts did not do that
Very corrupt and dishonest
Stop it.
Feinstein was just honoring the victims wishes - that she remain anonymous. I agree with Feinstein. If the victim strongly wishes to stay anonymous - it tied Feinsteins hands.
Still - this is bullshit and irrelevant. It is scum like you trying and saying anything except the honorable thing.
Which is - let the FBI investigate and clear Kavanaugh - and if he is innocent then he can be confirmed.
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 10:42 PM
how do you know so much about the law, Spurs Homer?
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:44 PM
Fbi is busy saying they are busy stopping trump
From becoming president !
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:46 PM
She is getting her day Monday she will be praised by the left media
He will be be praised by the right Monday
And then he will be confirmed
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:47 PM
Fbi investigated him 6 times there is no need to be cleared by him the 7 time
Winehole23
09-17-2018, 10:47 PM
and you will still be a doxxing piece of shit.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ducks
09-17-2018, 10:49 PM
My wife loves fucking her man
No
Need
To fuck
Myself
ducks
09-18-2018, 12:52 AM
Democrats aren't opposed to Kavanaugh’s nomination because of this allegation. They were opposed to him before they knew ANYTHING about him
ducks
09-18-2018, 12:53 AM
Why hasn't the national press reported this:"Martha Kavanaugh, Brett’s mother was Montgomery County Circuit Court judge from 1993 until she retired in 2001. During a 1996 foreclosure case, Martha Kavanaugh ruled against the parents of Christine Blasey-Ford in a foreclosure case.
ducks
09-18-2018, 12:57 AM
Why did Christine Blasey Ford erase her entire online/social media presence before making these allegations?
ElNono
09-18-2018, 01:00 AM
Why do you want to pee on a 13 year old?
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 07:44 AM
vote their consciences.
:lol they'll vote partisan, their misogyny, BigDonor
consciences? :lol
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 07:46 AM
Alumnae Of Christine Blasey Ford’s High School Circulate Letter Of Support
Ford’s allegations against Brett Kavanaugh are “all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton,” they wrote.
“We believe Dr. Blasey Ford and are grateful that she came forward to tell her story,”
says a draft letter (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1LjgTFYvVjuza_z4lEZjk0Eu_-BPcxlF3-7EH25r1pzs/viewform?edit_requested=true) from alumnae of Holton-Arms, a private girls school in Bethesda, Maryland.
“It demands a thorough and independent investigation
before the Senate can reasonably vote on Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to a lifetime seat on the nation’s highest court.”
The women also say that what Ford is alleging
“is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves.”
The letter is a boost of support for Ford, who has been thrust into the political spotlight and had her credibility questioned by going up against Kavanaugh and the White House.
The signatories span decades at the school ― before, during and after Ford attended.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/christine-blasey-ford-holton-arms-brett-kavanaugh_us_5b9fb3c2e4b04d32ebfabbc6?utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__091818&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__091818+CID_5ebe3ae8 5d3be22cb5416e7342f00782&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__091818
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 08:07 AM
Drudge Report Dragged For Promoting Hit Piece On The Wrong ‘Christine Ford’
The conservative site tweeted a story to its 1.4 million followers that falsely linked Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser to harsh reviews on RateMyProfessor.com.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/drudge-report-christine-ford_us_5b9ff404e4b04d32ebfb2c91?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__091818&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__091818+CID_5ebe3ae8 5d3be22cb5416e7342f00782&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__091818
DarrinS
09-18-2018, 08:16 AM
Alumnae Of Christine Blasey Ford’s High School Circulate Letter Of Support
The signatories span decades at the school ― before, during and after Ford attended.
In other words, people who don’t even know her. :lol
ducks
09-18-2018, 09:11 AM
The Justice Department says the sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh "does not involve any potential federal crime" for the FBI to investigate.
The department said in a statement Monday night that the FBI's role during background investigations is to evaluate whether the nominee could pose a national security risk and then provide that information "for the use of the decision
clambake
09-18-2018, 09:14 AM
what a head case.
ducks
09-18-2018, 09:18 AM
Kavanaugh accuser has not yet accepted invitation to testify before Congress
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 09:23 AM
no wonder, doxxing motherfuckers like you are trying to intimidate her
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 09:28 AM
Kavanaugh accuser has not yet accepted invitation to testify before Congress
You pee on underaged girls.
clambake
09-18-2018, 09:33 AM
he's all in, in the sickest kind of way. i could see this guy do something drastic.
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 09:47 AM
Merrick Garland Says He’s Still Available
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ba02d3d54290e51a71cff51/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-MerrickGarlandSCOTUS.jpg
BETHESDA, MARYLAND —Saying that
he would like to help the Senate Judiciary Committee “in any way I can,”
Judge Merrick Garland announced on Monday that he is “still available” to be confirmed as a United States Supreme Court Justice.
“I haven’t heard from anyone on the Judiciary Committee,” Garland said.
“But I just want to let them know that I’ve let bygones be bygones if they’d like to confirm me now.”
The judge said that he was “not surprised” that no one from the White House has called about his availability for the Supreme Court job.
“I’ve been reading that Woodward book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501175513/?tag=thneyo0f-20),” he said.
“It sounds like things can get pretty hectic over there.”
Garland noted that, when he was first nominated to the Supreme Court,
no Republican senator agreed to meet with him, but added,
“Maybe they can find some time in their schedules now.”
“After what they’ve been going through for the past couple of days,
the Republicans might want to give old Merrick another look,” he said.
“I’m clean as a whistle.”
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/merrick-garland-says-hes-still-available (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/merrick-garland-says-hes-still-available)
spurraider21
09-18-2018, 10:04 AM
My wife loves fucking her man
No
Need
To fuck
Myself
Are you trying to play scrabble or something?
ducks
09-18-2018, 10:09 AM
You pee on underaged girls.
proof?
I would not even expose myself to underage girls
ducks
09-18-2018, 10:10 AM
Merrick Garland Says He’s Still Available
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ba02d3d54290e51a71cff51/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-MerrickGarlandSCOTUS.jpg
BETHESDA, MARYLAND —Saying that
he would like to help the Senate Judiciary Committee “in any way I can,”
Judge Merrick Garland announced on Monday that he is “still available” to be confirmed as a United States Supreme Court Justice.
“I haven’t heard from anyone on the Judiciary Committee,” Garland said.
“But I just want to let them know that I’ve let bygones be bygones if they’d like to confirm me now.”
The judge said that he was “not surprised” that no one from the White House has called about his availability for the Supreme Court job.
“I’ve been reading that Woodward book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501175513/?tag=thneyo0f-20),” he said.
“It sounds like things can get pretty hectic over there.”
Garland noted that, when he was first nominated to the Supreme Court,
no Republican senator agreed to meet with him, but added,
“Maybe they can find some time in their schedules now.”
“After what they’ve been going through for the past couple of days,
the Republicans might want to give old Merrick another look,” he said.
“I’m clean as a whistle.”
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/merrick-garland-says-hes-still-available (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/merrick-garland-says-hes-still-available)
what a asshole
DarrinS
09-18-2018, 10:23 AM
what a asshole
It was satire
clambake
09-18-2018, 10:32 AM
It was satire
not to ducks.
ducks is a sick fuck.
benefactor
09-18-2018, 10:35 AM
My wife loves fucking her man
No
Need
To fuck
Myself
I'm sure she does...because I'm betting you're one of the few men on the planet that would venture into the prison purse of said beast.
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 10:39 AM
proof?
I would not even expose myself to underage girls
uhhhh...ducks, I don't think that came out the way you meant it.
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 10:47 AM
There are Some Pretty Bizarre (Telling?) Comments on Rat Fucker’s High School Yearbook
https://lawandcrime.com/uncategorized/there-are-some-pretty-bizarre-tellling-comments-on-brett-kavanaughs-high-school-yearbook-r/
How does someone else own Kavanaugh's yearbook?
Spurs Homer
09-18-2018, 10:53 AM
There are Some Pretty Bizarre (Telling?) Comments on Rat Fucker’s High School Yearbook
https://lawandcrime.com/uncategorized/there-are-some-pretty-bizarre-tellling-comments-on-brett-kavanaughs-high-school-yearbook-r/
Good reason for the GOP to rush this through and avoid a real investigation. Sooner or later more evidence will come out and more and more.
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 10:58 AM
A former sex-crimes prosecutor analyzed Ford’s allegations against Kavanaugh. Here’s her take.
“I stand to believe there’s no such thing as a ‘he-said-she-said’ case,” Linda Fairstein, former chief of the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office’s Sex Crimes Bureau, told The Post.
“As a prosecutor, it’s your job to break down every minute of the encounter so that details on one side pushes the facts over the edge.”
“The reason we have statutes of limitations is because its difficult to defend yourself when someone makes an accusation against you from years ago.
It’s difficult to have witnesses or forensics,” he said.
But, according to Fairstein, it was completely normal that Ford “didn’t remember” several details.
“If she testifies, I would expect her to say ‘I don’t remember’ scores of times,” Fairstein said, for two reasons:
the passage of time and trauma.
“She found this experience so upsetting that she felt her life was in danger.
There might be 220 things she doesn’t know and
then a very specific sentence about what happened that was so traumatic."
it may be challenging to recall peripheral details of an assault years later —
such as who spread word of the party, who was the designated driver —
but that should not detract from a victim’s veracity
“if she can clearly and consistently articulate central details of what happened, such as the who, what and where,”
Fairstein said sexual assault rarely happens with witnesses present.
Yet Ford puts two people in the room —
Kavanaugh and his prep school classmate, Mark Judge, whom she called “an essential witness.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/18/former-sex-crimes-prosecutor-analyzed-fords-allegations-against-kavanaugh-heres-her-take/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0b6d18c0a50c&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 11:10 AM
What the man accused of being part of Kavanaugh’s alleged sexual assault had to say about women’s sexuality
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/qcTS7LmT6nGrTiz0IWfnlhC7yaQ=/1109x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/2DV4KTXB2M4K7FYQAGK3PEXRHI.jpg
Mark Judge’s page in his high school yearbook: “Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs.”
In two memoirs, Judge depicted his high school as a nest of debauchery where
students attended “masturbation class,”
“lusted after girls” from nearby Catholic schools and
drank themselves into stupors at parties.
He has since renounced that lifestyle and refashioned himself as a conservative moralist —
albeit one who has written about “the wonderful beauty of uncontrollable male passion (https://www.splicetoday.com/pop-culture/hard-case-crime-the-beauty-of-male-passion).”
Judge credits Georgetown Prep as the place he learned to write, even as
he blames it for sending him down the path to alcoholism and immorality.
:lol Always somebody else made him do it :lol
He was caption editor for his yearbook,
which included lines like “Ebony and Ivory” beneath a photo of a white and a black student, and
“Do these guys beat their wives?” beneath a group photo of several boys.
ETC
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/09/17/what-the-man-accused-of-helping-kavanaugh-assault-a-woman-wrote-about-female-sexuality/?utm_term=.cc3af18fbeed&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
K's character witness :lol
Outstanding graduates as credits to their elitist, Jesuit college prep den of debauchery.
Those fucking Catholics, yet again
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 11:33 AM
proof?
I would not even expose myself to underage girls
so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
Chucho
09-18-2018, 11:49 AM
^^^^
:rollin
Rick James:
"I never did things just to do them. What am I gonna do, Jump up and grind mud in a couch? I think I got a little more sense then that..."
"Yeah, I remember jumping up on Eddies couch and grinding mud into it."
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 02:05 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/590119/story_image/onesexpred110tb.jpg?1537237619
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 02:45 PM
1042098815317303296
Pavlov
09-18-2018, 02:47 PM
CROFL "rough horse play"
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 02:49 PM
1042118207245615104
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 03:09 PM
Lol
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 03:15 PM
1042141587608936448
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 04:33 PM
Looking like she won't testify.
Looking like she won't testify.
One day in and you're already claiming victory. :lol
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 04:37 PM
One day in and you're already claiming victory. :lol
He’s not even concerned whether Kavanaugh did it or not
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 04:40 PM
One day in and you're already claiming victory. :lol
Not claiming victory but if she refuses to testify under oath you bitches have no grounds to complain when he is confirmed.
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 04:44 PM
Kavanaugh Defender Describes Ford Allegations as Maybe Just ‘Rough Horse Play’
Josh Marshall
(https://twitter.com/joshtpm)✔@joshtpm
(https://twitter.com/joshtpm)
Kavanaugh spokesperson/activist says it's not clear that the incident was attempted rape as opposed to just "rough horseplay".
10:35 AM - Sep 18, 2018 (https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1042074734807146502)
==================
, host Kate Bolduan asked the conservative Judicial Crisis Network (https://judicialnetwork.com/)‘s Carrie Severino,
“If Christine Blasey Ford’s story is true, if it is credible, would that be disqualifying for Brett Kavanaugh to sit on the high court?
Or disqualifying for any nominee?”
The Judicial Crisis Network (JCN) is the leading group which supports Republican nominees to the nation’s high court and
had led the charge in favor of Kavanaugh’s nomination and confirmation.
In response to Bolduan’s question, Severino replied:
Well, look,
her allegations cover a whole range of conduct
from boorishness
to rough horse play
to actual attempted rape. :lol
Obviously if you go to rape, yes, that is a really serious allegation.
But we don’t–that is why it will be useful to have this hearing.
So we can even figure out what some of the specifics on those allegations are.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/kavanaugh-defender-describes-ford-allegations-as-maybe-just-rough-horse-play/ (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/kavanaugh-defender-describes-ford-allegations-as-maybe-just-rough-horse-play/)
Boys will be Boys, raping, it's just human nature
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 04:53 PM
Not claiming victory but if she refuses to testify under oath you bitches have no grounds to complain when he is confirmed.
Even if he did attempt to rape someone. Lol red team
Chris
09-18-2018, 05:08 PM
1042122392326361089
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 05:11 PM
Hoping that she won't testify.
Fixed
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 05:12 PM
The only person refusing to testify so far is the one witness who could clear Kavanaugh :lol
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 05:13 PM
Also I enjoy the Keith Ellison misdirect going on today.
spurraider21
09-18-2018, 05:20 PM
Also I enjoy the Keith Ellison misdirect going on today.
just waiting for bill clinton now
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 06:00 PM
Even if he did attempt to rape someone. Lol red team
Lol blue team even worse automatically calling him a rapist.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 06:08 PM
CROFL "rough horse play"I thought it never happened. Has Kavanaugh backtracked or are his supporters idiots?
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 06:13 PM
I thought it never happened. Has Kavanaugh backtracked or are his supporters idiots?
No. It was a hypothetical question. IF she testifies, is believable, etc. From some talking head totally unrelated to the judge.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 06:19 PM
No. It was a hypothetical question. IF she testifies, is believable, etc. From some talking head totally unrelayed to the judge.oh, you mean the gal from the Judicial Crisis Network, the org that's about to launch a million dollar ad campaign for Kavanaugh?
Totally unrelated :lol
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 06:23 PM
Lol blue team even worse automatically calling him a rapist.
Automatically? She passed a lie detector test and Kavanaughs lawyers are playing the rough horse play defense after he denied even being at the party.
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 06:29 PM
Automatically? She passed a lie detector test and Kavanaughs lawyers are playing the rough horse play defense after he denied even being at the party.
Bullshit.
Chris
09-18-2018, 06:30 PM
She just needs more time to get her story straight you guys. 30 years is not enough.
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 06:32 PM
Bullshit.
It’s already been posted from multiple sites. Lol red team mad
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 06:33 PM
She just needs more time to get her story straight you guys. 30 years is not enough.
We know rapists and pedophiles don’t bother you. See. Roy Moore
Chris
09-18-2018, 06:33 PM
KAVANAUGH ACCUSER’S LAWYER: IT’S NOT HER JOB TO CORROBORATE HER STORY
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/17/kavanaugh-accuser-laywer-corroborate/
Chris
09-18-2018, 06:34 PM
We know rapists and pedophiles don’t bother you. See. Roy Moore
Poor fella still doesn't understand what a pedophile is. Maybe some day *shrug
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 06:34 PM
LORDY now Chris reduced to posting the same site link he once laughed at.
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 06:34 PM
Poor fella still doesn't understand what a pedophile is. Maybe some day *shrug
You didn’t even deny the damn statement :lol
Chris
09-18-2018, 06:35 PM
You didn’t even deny the damn statement :lol
I didn't have to deny it considering you were erroneous across the board. You're easy pickins'.
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 06:36 PM
I didn't have to deny it considering you were erroneous across the board. You're easy pickins'.
Like judge Ellis rejecting the indictments :lol
Chris
09-18-2018, 06:55 PM
1042197667307237376
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 06:55 PM
Christine Blasey Ford Facing Death Threats So Severe She Had to Move Out of Her Homehttps://www.mediaite.com/print/christine-blasey-ford-facing-death-threats-so-severe-she-had-to-move-out-of-her-home/
whatabout ... antifa! :lol
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 07:11 PM
Poor fella still doesn't understand what a pedophile is. Maybe some day *shrug
Neither do you #jamesgunn
Chris
09-18-2018, 07:14 PM
Neither do you #jamesgunn
Did you really just #hashtag me? Bortles really did a number on you didn't he? :lol
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 07:23 PM
1042204127198158850
:lmao Kavanaugh done
Ford with da power move
1042204127198158850
:lmao Kavanaugh done
It's the other way around, bro.
The FBI already said they won't do a thing unless they are directed to do so by the President. She cant order the FBI like she's at McDonalds.
He's getting confirmed now.
Chris
09-18-2018, 07:25 PM
1042197782168166400
Chris
09-18-2018, 07:26 PM
It's the other way around, bro.
The FBI already said they won't do a thing unless they are directed to do so by the President. She cant order the FBI like she's at McDonalds.
He's getting confirmed now.
djohn getting thrown under the bus by his own peoples :lol
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 07:28 PM
It's the other way around, bro.
The FBI already said they won't do a thing unless they are directed to do so by the President. She cant order the FBI like she's at McDonalds.
He's getting confirmed now.
Lol. He’s done and I’m just gonna leave it there.
Lol. He’s done and I’m just gonna leave it there.
If Trump gives the go ahead, maybe.
But Trump wants this guy in. He's not going to be delaying the confirmation any longer than he has to.
djohn2oo8
09-18-2018, 07:30 PM
If Trump gives the go ahead, maybe.
But Trump wants this guy in. He's not going to be delaying the confirmation any longer than he has to.
Ol Ivanka already told daddeh to cut bait :lol
WH fears more coming out on assault
CosmicCowboy
09-18-2018, 07:32 PM
The justice department already said the FBI doesnt investigate non-federal crimes. What exactly would they investigate? She is the only one that claims anything happened. She cant say when it happened, or where it happened, or who else was there. What exactly is there to investigate?
Chris
09-18-2018, 07:34 PM
He's in and you baby murderers are going to have to fund your own murders now.
Since 1973: Roe vs Wade
60,732,703 murdered babies in the United States alone.
This strategy actually worked with Roy Moore, but so far nothing but a backfire for desperate Democrats looking to fortify the spigot.
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1042207015970529280
White rich, out of touch with reality man.
Great idea, let's put the would be rapist besides the victim.
Chris
09-18-2018, 07:40 PM
White rich, out of touch with reality man.
Reck hates white people.
hater
09-18-2018, 07:44 PM
“Blasey will not attend the hearing on Monday”
:lmao
Once a tease always a tease?
Reck hates white people.
I strongly dislike the ones that are severely out of touch with reality.
Also, for some parity, I dislike orange tanned people.
Chris
09-18-2018, 07:46 PM
I strongly dislike the ones that are severely out of touch with reality.
Also, for some parity, I dislike orange tanned people.
You're a racist.
“Blasey will not attend the hearing on Monday”
:lmao
Once a tease always a tease?
unless the FBI opens an investigation.
another failed smear job.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 08:03 PM
Chris, SJW warrior for whites only
Monostradamus
09-18-2018, 08:05 PM
Did you really just #hashtag me? Bortles really did a number on you didn't he? :lol
:lmao changing the subject faster than Roy Moore spotting an underage girl.
Chris
09-18-2018, 08:12 PM
Chris, SJW warrior for whites only
This reverse racism shit will not stand while I'm around. Racists will be called out specifically. I don't have time for unconscious bias and micro aggressions. How about just justice? No adjectives needed.
Spurs Homer
09-18-2018, 08:12 PM
Christine Blasey Ford Facing Death Threats So Severe She Had to Move Out of Her Home
https://www.mediaite.com/print/christine-blasey-ford-facing-death-threats-so-severe-she-had-to-move-out-of-her-home/
whatabout ... antifa! :lol
Pieces of shit like Ducks - that gave away her personal info.
Chris
09-18-2018, 08:12 PM
:lmao changing the subject faster than Roy Moore spotting an underage girl.
Yeah, your hashtag totally destroyed me.
This reverse racism shit will not stand while I'm around. Racists will be called out specifically. I don't have time for unconscious bias and micro aggressions. How about just justice? No adjectives needed.
Says the guy who made fun of someone for having an indian name.
leemajors
09-18-2018, 09:24 PM
He's in and you baby murderers are going to have to fund your own murders now.
Since 1973: Roe vs Wade
60,732,703 murdered babies in the United States alone.
This strategy actually worked with Roy Moore, but so far nothing but a backfire for desperate Democrats looking to fortify the spigot.
It's not going anywhere. BTW have you ever had sex?
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 09:44 PM
This reverse racism shit will not stand while I'm around. Racists will be called out specifically. I don't have time for unconscious bias and micro aggressions. How about just justice? No adjectives needed.SJW for whites only
Chris
09-18-2018, 09:45 PM
It's not going anywhere. BTW have you ever had sex?
You should probably stick to trolling upstairs.
Chris
09-18-2018, 09:46 PM
SJW for whites only
I see you hate white people as well. That's on you.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 09:50 PM
not at all.
I see you defend whites only.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 09:51 PM
I get that white identity is your hobby horse. we all do.
Chris
09-18-2018, 09:52 PM
not at all.
I see you defend whites only.
Hyperbole. That's good you don't hate white people because that would be...well you know, racist.
Chris
09-18-2018, 09:53 PM
I get that white identity is your hobby horse. we all do.
White identity?
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 09:54 PM
WHO, ME?
Mikeanaro
09-18-2018, 09:55 PM
The justice department already said the FBI doesnt investigate non-federal crimes. What exactly would they investigate? She is the only one that claims anything happened. She cant say when it happened, or where it happened, or who else was there. What exactly is there to investigate?
Feelings.
Chris
09-18-2018, 09:55 PM
WHO, ME?
Is this a disconnect?
AaronY
09-18-2018, 09:59 PM
This reverse racism shit will not stand while I'm around. Racists will be called out specifically. I don't have time for unconscious bias and micro aggressions. How about just justice? No adjectives needed.
What a warrior. True hero here tbh.
ElNono
09-18-2018, 09:59 PM
He's in and you baby murderers are going to have to fund your own murders now.
Since 1973: Roe vs Wade
60,732,703 murdered babies in the United States alone.
This strategy actually worked with Roy Moore, but so far nothing but a backfire for desperate Democrats looking to fortify the spigot.
:lol why pretend you care about babies? This is all politics to you.
ElNono
09-18-2018, 10:00 PM
This reverse racism shit will not stand while I'm around. Racists will be called out specifically. I don't have time for unconscious bias and micro aggressions. How about just justice? No adjectives needed.
What are you going to do? drown them in twitter posts?
Trill Clinton
09-18-2018, 10:05 PM
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Chris
09-18-2018, 10:05 PM
:lol why pretend you care about babies? This is all politics to you.
I don't have to pretend because I don't do the troll thing. I'm also a Christian, so of course I care about babies and unborn babies. This shouldn't be an issue, but baby killing is big business especially baby parts. Planned Parenthood and the DNC have been in bed together for quite some time if you want to get political with it.
Chris
09-18-2018, 10:06 PM
What are you going to do? drown them in twitter posts?
I will call them out specifically. Do you have trouble reading?
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 10:08 PM
CALL OUT CHRIS
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 10:09 PM
SJW FOR THE WHITE RACE
Trill Clinton
09-18-2018, 10:09 PM
I don't have to pretend because I don't do the troll thing. I'm also a Christian, so of course I care about babies and unborn babies. This shouldn't be an issue, but baby killing is big business especially baby parts. Planned Parenthood and the DNC have been in bed together for quite some time if you want to get political with it.
you're not a man of God. the fake christian talk will cease when i'm around, real talk. you have too much hate, racism, bigotry and all around evil in your heart to even pretend to be a christian. you're not fooling anyone imposter.
Chris
09-18-2018, 10:11 PM
Native Texas tyvm. My family was here before yours more than likely ; )
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/bmc57
Chickasaw tribe to be specific.
Chris
09-18-2018, 10:12 PM
you're not a man of God. the fake christian talk will cease when i'm around, real talk. you have too much hate, racism, bigotry and all around evil in your heart to even pretend to be a christian. you're not fooling anyone imposter.
Troll Clinton trollin'.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 10:13 PM
on your census form, do you identify as white or as native American?
Chris
09-18-2018, 10:14 PM
on your census form, do you identify as white or as native American?
Caucasian
Trill Clinton
09-18-2018, 10:15 PM
Troll Clinton trollin'.
^^^
this is how you respond when hit with cold hard facts. toss out the troll card.
Winehole23
09-18-2018, 10:15 PM
no surprise there
Chris
09-18-2018, 10:16 PM
:lol "cold hard facts"
ElNono
09-18-2018, 10:28 PM
I don't have to pretend because I don't do the troll thing. I'm also a Christian, so of course I care about babies and unborn babies. This shouldn't be an issue, but baby killing is big business especially baby parts. Planned Parenthood and the DNC have been in bed together for quite some time if you want to get political with it.
The troll thingie
ElNono
09-18-2018, 10:29 PM
I will call them out specifically. Do you have trouble reading?
That'll really show them.
Spurminator
09-18-2018, 10:52 PM
I'm also a Christian, so of course I care about babies and unborn babies.
Matthew 6:1 ESV
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Titus 1:16 ESV
They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.
Matthew 7:21-23 ESV
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Matthew 7:15 ESV
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
2 Timothy 3:1-17 ESV
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
John 13:35 ESV
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
John 8:44 ESV
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Matthew 7:1-29 ESV
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...
2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. (:lol Alex Jones)
Matthew 15:8 ESV
“‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
Acts 20:29-31 ESV
I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears.
Jeremiah 14:14 ESV
And the Lord said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.
2 Peter 2:1 ESV
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Galatians 2:4 ESV
Yet because of false brothers secretly brought in—who slipped in to spy out our freedom that we have in Christ Jesus, so that they might bring us into slavery—
1 Corinthians 13:1 ESV
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
Romans 16:17 ESV
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
boutons_deux
09-18-2018, 11:03 PM
only care about OPB, Other People's Babies / Other People's Vaginas
ducks
09-18-2018, 11:36 PM
Christine Blasey Ford Facing Death Threats So Severe She Had to Move Out of Her Homehttps://www.mediaite.com/print/christine-blasey-ford-facing-death-threats-so-severe-she-had-to-move-out-of-her-home/
whatabout ... antifa! :lolcan she remember the details and when?
Mikeanaro
09-18-2018, 11:44 PM
Lol some moral compasses here blathering about Christians... what part of the bible says support establishment/muslims/open borders/gays and lesbians?
And yes, Im pretty sure the true prophet was the wife of a rapist, who also condemned those abused women and was against gays lesbians and open borders...
Spurs Homer
09-18-2018, 11:55 PM
can she remember the details and when?
Hope you are happy with yourself for doxxing her you pos.
ducks
09-18-2018, 11:55 PM
Just Do It? Kaepernick Donated $25,000 To Pro-Abortion Group
"A legal advocacy organization that promotes and defends the reproductive rights of women worldwide
boutons_deux
09-19-2018, 12:01 AM
Accusations Draw New Attention to Kavanaugh’s Remarks About Drinking
Christine Blasey Ford’s claims that Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were teenagers
while he was drunk have drawn attention to a speech he gave four years ago
in which he discussed heavy drinking at Yale Law School —
and to an offhand remark about his high school days that he made during another speech.
Earlier this week, a transcript of a 2014 speech Judge Kavanaugh apparently gave at a banquet for the Yale Law School Federalist Society surfaced via a Washington Post reporter on Twitter (https://twitter.com/feliciasonmez/status/1041483381257715712);
some of it was later transcribed and posted by the magazine Mother Jones (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-gave-a-speech-about-binge-drinking-in-law-school/).
The speech, in which he imparted lessons to students and reminisced about his time at school, contained one section in which
Judge Kavanaugh, now 53, fondly recalled some debaucherous — if seemingly harmless — nights of heavy drinking and revelry as a Yale Law student.
In one episode, he described taking a bus with his classmates to Boston for a Red Sox game and a night of barhopping, which ended with the students “falling out of the bus onto the front steps of Yale Law School at about 4:45 a.m.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/18/us/Kavanaugh-binge-drinking-Yale-speech-.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
ducks
09-19-2018, 12:04 AM
Just Do It? Kaepernick Donated $25,000 To Pro-Abortion Group
"A legal advocacy organization that promotes and defends the reproductive rights of women worldwide
ElNono
09-19-2018, 12:15 AM
Lol some moral compasses here blathering about Christians... what part of the bible says support establishment/muslims/open borders/gays and lesbians?
And yes, Im pretty sure the true prophet was the wife of a rapist, who also condemned those abused women and was against gays lesbians and open borders...
Chris just gives Christians a bad name, tbh... basically he shows zero traits of anything that's remotely good about Christianity. Compassion, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, etc.
David Robinson would probably be offended and chasing him with a bible right about now, tbh... :lol
Then again, dude is Mr superficial, so I suppose that also extends to religion.
Othyus Lalanne
09-19-2018, 12:30 AM
Chris just gives Christians a bad name, tbh... basically he shows zero traits of anything that's remotely good about Christianity. Compassion, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, etc.
David Robinson would probably be offended and chasing him with a bible right about now, tbh... :lol
Then again, dude is Mr superficial, so I suppose that also extends to religion.
As a leftist are you proud of the left or the democrats?
ducks
09-19-2018, 12:39 AM
Did anyone here not do dumb things as teenagers
?
Rape is wrong period but people do dumb things as teenagers
Chris
09-19-2018, 01:19 AM
Chris just gives Christians a bad name, tbh... basically he shows zero traits of anything that's remotely good about Christianity. Compassion, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, etc.
David Robinson would probably be offended and chasing him with a bible right about now, tbh... :lol
Then again, dude is Mr superficial, so I suppose that also extends to religion.
What a load of crap.
ElNono
09-19-2018, 01:24 AM
As a leftist are you proud of the left or the democrats?
:lol who is this guy, and why is he talking to me?
ElNono
09-19-2018, 01:26 AM
What a load of crap.
solid comeback, really clarifies your stance as a stand-up christian... lmao
LaSíSí
09-19-2018, 01:57 AM
:lol who is this guy, and why is he talking to me?
SMDH Some people, man...
:lol
Chris
09-19-2018, 02:02 AM
solid comeback, really clarifies your stance as a stand-up christian... lmao
You want me to be a Christian and turn the other cheek, yet you are asking for a 'comeback.' You're full of it.
ElNono
09-19-2018, 02:19 AM
You want me to be a Christian and turn the other cheek, yet you are asking for a 'comeback.' You're full of it.
lol 'asking for a comeback' after telling me I can't read. Lots of vitamin I in that post.
Spurminator
09-19-2018, 10:07 AM
Damn, 31% approval. This could have midterm implications for Republicans if they continue to push forward.
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boutons_deux
09-19-2018, 10:09 AM
Trump tried to explain why he won’t ask FBI to investigate Kavanaugh. It made no sense.
The coverup continues.
“Well, it would seem that the FBI really doesn’t do that,” Trump said. “They’ve investigated [Kavanaugh via background checks] about six times before.”
But as a reporter pointed out to Trump, the bureau would investigate if the president asked them to.
There’s direct precedent for this.
In 1991, when Anita Hill made sexual harassment allegations against then-Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas, President Bush directed the FBI “to conduct a full, thorough and expeditious investigation.”
The president immediately changed his tune, ignoring the question and instead punting the matter to Republican senators.
“Well, I would let the senators take their course,” Trump said. “Let the senators do it. They’re doing a very good job.”
Trump went on to say that the allegation “is hurting someone’s life very badly.”
But he was referring to Kavanaugh, not Ford, who has been besieged with death threats (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kavanaugh-accuser-death-threats_us_5ba20e27e4b013b097806e06) and targeted harassment (https://thinkprogress.org/laura-ingraham-christine-blasey-ford-smear-5b29e31b033f/)
Chris Strohm @cstrohm (https://twitter.com/cstrohm)FollowFollow
@cstrohm
Bloomberg News:
The FBI did not tell Trump or anyone else at the White House that
the bureau doesn’t want to be involved in an investigation of allegations against Kavanaugh,
according to a person familiar with the matter.
6:36 PM - 18 Sep 2018
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation-ecf1767677db/
Spurs Homer
09-19-2018, 10:18 AM
Trump tried to explain why he won’t ask FBI to investigate Kavanaugh. It made no sense.
The coverup continues.
“Well, it would seem that the FBI really doesn’t do that,” Trump said. “They’ve investigated [Kavanaugh via background checks] about six times before.”
But as a reporter pointed out to Trump, the bureau would investigate if the president asked them to.
There’s direct precedent for this.
In 1991, when Anita Hill made sexual harassment allegations against then-Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas, President Bush directed the FBI “to conduct a full, thorough and expeditious investigation.”
The president immediately changed his tune, ignoring the question and instead punting the matter to Republican senators.
“Well, I would let the senators take their course,” Trump said. “Let the senators do it. They’re doing a very good job.”
Trump went on to say that the allegation “is hurting someone’s life very badly.”
But he was referring to Kavanaugh, not Ford, who has been besieged with death threats (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kavanaugh-accuser-death-threats_us_5ba20e27e4b013b097806e06) and targeted harassment (https://thinkprogress.org/laura-ingraham-christine-blasey-ford-smear-5b29e31b033f/)
Chris Strohm @cstrohm (https://twitter.com/cstrohm)FollowFollow
@cstrohm
Bloomberg News:
The FBI did not tell Trump or anyone else at the White House that
the bureau doesn’t want to be involved in an investigation of allegations against Kavanaugh,
according to a person familiar with the matter.
6:36 PM - 18 Sep 2018
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation-ecf1767677db/
POS- sexual assaulter in chief knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that only he can authorize the FBI to look into the new allegations - and he knows that it is the last thing he wants to do. He needs Kavanaugh because Kavanaugh is the sure thing - regarding giving him complete power to be a pos criminal and get away with it.
This will be a sham confirmation this week and they will pay at the polls on Nov 6.
This is just an interesting issue. Forget that Democrats have already convicted Kavanaugh. Forget that Republicans only give facial credence (meaning they think Ford needs to be heard) to the claims.
For Ford:
- Hard to believe someone would put themselves out there like this (you know the death threats are coming even if they aren't credible because there are too many morons out there)
- She obviously knew Kavanaugh because she knew him and his friends and includes them in her allegation
- The story is not obviously false. There are witnesses (even though none take her side...which is kind of what you'd expect) and there is no actual rape, only the accusation that it was interpreted by her as attempted rape
- It's during the Me Too movement where people have thrown concepts of due process and presumed innocence out the door
-References to a therapist before Kavanaugh was ever nominated (even though the sessions never mention him by name and get the number of people in the room wrong in saying 4 over 2)
On the Flip Side
- Kavanaugh obviously denies and gets a host of character witnesses
- Ford can't name the time, place, or location so Kavanaugh is forced to prove a negative, which is impossible without those details
- Dems sat on the story making it look political and are now using it to force some kind of FBI investigation when the FBI has no jurisdiction (no federal crime was alleged), which obviously also looks like more of a political ploy
- 35 years...the statute of frauds has already run and the likelihood of evidence every coming forward to substantiate the claims is near impossible
- Ford is unwilling to testify or give even basic facts that could substantiate her claim
- If she succeeds in delaying the hearing to the midterms and Kavanaugh is not convicted, she will be a hero to the left and hit the television circuit to share her story and advocate for Me Too and make $$$ on the thinnest of accusations (and if Kavanaugh is not confirmed...people will completely drop this off the radar).
And at the end of the day, everyone knows that ultimately this ends with a he said/she said. No evidence. All the witnesses favor Kavanaugh, but it's kind of what you'd expect of the witnesses. There is no proof that Kavanaugh was ever in the same room with Ford. This is a case that the local authorities would drop in a second because there is no way to get a conviction. But in the Me Too era, Kavanaugh will stand convicted of attempted rape by half of the population in the U.S. based on one vague allegation and not one other person has come forward and said "Me too." Fascinating.
ducks
09-19-2018, 10:40 AM
Patrick J. Smyth sent a letter to Republican Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley and top Democrat Dianne Feinstein in which he denies seeing any “improper conduct” by Kavanaugh, a classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, according to CNN, which obtained a copy of the letter.
The committee, which oversees Supreme Court nominations, has called a hearing for Monday in which both Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, could testify.
Ford’s lawyers said on Tuesday, however, that she wants her allegations to be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation before she appears at a U.S. Senate hearing.
A Kavanaugh friend, Mark Judge, who Ford has also said was present during the assault, previously told Grassley through a lawyer he did not want to speak publicly. Judge, who has written about his teenage alcoholism, said he had no memory of party and had never seen Kavanaugh behave in the manner she described.
In the meantime, Smyth told the committee he volunteered the statement to safeguard his own privacy and anonymity.
“I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as ‘PJ’ who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post,” Smyth said in his letter, CNN reported.
Othyus Lalanne
09-19-2018, 10:48 AM
:lol who is this guy, and why is he talking to me?
I am registered user. i don't give a fuck about your feelings or pretend status.
Spurs Homer
09-19-2018, 10:54 AM
This is just an interesting issue. Forget that Democrats have already convicted Kavanaugh. Forget that Republicans only give facial credence (meaning they think Ford needs to be heard) to the claims.
For Ford:
- Hard to believe someone would put themselves out there like this (you know the death threats are coming even if they aren't credible because there are too many morons out there)
- She obviously knew Kavanaugh because she knew him and his friends and includes them in her allegation
- The story is not obviously false. There are witnesses (even though none take her side...which is kind of what you'd expect) and there is no actual rape, only the accusation that it was interpreted by her as attempted rape
- It's during the Me Too movement where people have thrown concepts of due process and presumed innocence out the door
-References to a therapist before Kavanaugh was ever nominated (even though the sessions never mention him by name and get the number of people in the room wrong in saying 4 over 2)
On the Flip Side
- Kavanaugh obviously denies and gets a host of character witnesses
- Ford can't name the time, place, or location so Kavanaugh is forced to prove a negative, which is impossible without those details
- Dems sat on the story making it look political and are now using it to force some kind of FBI investigation when the FBI has no jurisdiction (no federal crime was alleged), which obviously also looks like more of a political ploy
- 35 years...the statute of frauds has already run and the likelihood of evidence every coming forward to substantiate the claims is near impossible
- Ford is unwilling to testify or give even basic facts that could substantiate her claim
- If she succeeds in delaying the hearing to the midterms and Kavanaugh is not convicted, she will be a hero to the left and hit the television circuit to share her story and advocate for Me Too and make $$$ on the thinnest of accusations (and if Kavanaugh is not confirmed...people will completely drop this off the radar).
And at the end of the day, everyone knows that ultimately this ends with a he said/she said. No evidence. All the witnesses favor Kavanaugh, but it's kind of what you'd expect of the witnesses. There is no proof that Kavanaugh was ever in the same room with Ford. This is a case that the local authorities would drop in a second because there is no way to get a conviction. But in the Me Too era, Kavanaugh will stand convicted of attempted rape by half of the population in the U.S. based on one vague allegation and not one other person has come forward and said "Me too." Fascinating.
I disagree on a lot. You are absolutely favoring K - and using false info to reach that basis.
All that Ford and the Dems are asking for is an investigation - and then she will appear. She did not refuse to testify.
Ford
-She describes an attempted sexual assault and she gives the name of a 3rd person in the room - she did not have to - she could have made it a she said/he said - but instead gave a witness which is obviously K's friend and on his side.
- Me too - this is false -due process is what she is asking for, she is asking for an investigation. If she testifies under oath to the FBI and she is found to be lying, she can be prosecuted. Why would she knowingly subject herself to that risk? Presumed innocence - yes he can still be presumed until the facts are all known - what is his team afraid of? Why the rush? why conceal documents?
- Therapist - so what? the fact that she was there pouring her guts out trying to fix herself is more telling than if the therapist wrote simple notes, or got something wrong - remember this was years before K was even being considered for any SC seat.
Flip Side -
-K denies/character witnesses - lol absurd.
- Ford can't name time/place - So? This is where the FBI pieces together what is missing. They scour the landscape, put bits together, find a witness no one else mentioned, someone steps up after seeing another news article, leads come in, people volunteer other relevant facts, etc
- Dems sat on the story - wrong - Feinstein was between a rock/hard place - the biggest thing to consider was the anonymity of the alleged victim - which had been strongly requested by the victim. Besides - this is completely irrelevant. Who cares about that? Oh, Trump and the corrupt GOP who spin everything - yet are completely OK with rushing a process when their own sexual assaulter in chief is under a criminal investigation and appears to want K solely - because K places the (R) President above the law. He refused to place (D) Clinton above the law - but this sexual assaulter in chief will have free reign to commit crimes.
-35 years - So what - have you never seen cold cases where investigators solve old crimes? Besides - he will not be convicted - the statutes wont allow - but at least the facts can be unearthed to make sure a qualified SC justice can be confirmed - or can be disqualified.
*also - this friend of his who sent a letter saying he will not testify? Fuck him. The FBI can talk to him under oath and see if he does not remember or if he just blacked out during this rape party and now cannot honestly recall it. Republicans are doing the same damn thing they did in the Russia hearings - they ask a Trump team member a question - the Trump guy refuses to answer and they just say "oh-ok -next witness." What kind of an investigation is that? This guy - K's friend - can be legally subpoenaed and forced to appear at the hearing. He won't be. Who looks crooked here - the Dems who want an investigation - a proper investigation - or the repugs who avoid one at all costs.
What is the rush?
The only way this ends in a he said/she said - is because the Republicans will avoid finding the truth, not allow an investigation and continue their corruption.
Yes. It is a very interesting issue.
Nov. 6th will be the real verdict.
I disagree on a lot. You are absolutely favoring K - and using false info to reach that basis.
All that Ford and the Dems are asking for is an investigation - and then she will appear. She did not refuse to testify.
Ford
-She describes an attempted sexual assault and she gives the name of a 3rd person in the room - she did not have to - she could have made it a she said/he said - but instead gave a witness which is obviously K's friend and on his side.
- Me too - this is false -due process is what she is asking for, she is asking for an investigation. If she testifies under oath to the FBI and she is found to be lying, she can be prosecuted. Why would she knowingly subject herself to that risk? Presumed innocence - yes he can still be presumed until the facts are all known - what is his team afraid of? Why the rush? why conceal documents?
- Therapist - so what? the fact that she was there pouring her guts out trying to fix herself is more telling than if the therapist wrote simple notes, or got something wrong - remember this was years before K was even being considered for any SC seat.
Flip Side -
-K denies/character witnesses - lol absurd.
- Ford can't name time/place - So? This is where the FBI pieces together what is missing. They scour the landscape, put bits together, find a witness no one else mentioned, someone steps up after seeing another news article, leads come in, people volunteer other relevant facts, etc
- Dems sat on the story - wrong - Feinstein was between a rock/hard place - the biggest thing to consider was the anonymity of the alleged victim - which had been strongly requested by the victim. Besides - this is completely irrelevant. Who cares about that? Oh, Trump and the corrupt GOP who spin everything - yet are completely OK with rushing a process when their own sexual assaulter in chief is under a criminal investigation and appears to want K solely - because K places the (R) President above the law. He refused to place (D) Clinton above the law - but this sexual assaulter in chief will have free reign to commit crimes.
-35 years - So what - have you never seen cold cases where investigators solve old crimes? Besides - he will not be convicted - the statutes wont allow - but at least the facts can be unearthed to make sure a qualified SC justice can be confirmed - or can be disqualified.
*also - this friend of his who sent a letter saying he will not testify? Fuck him. The FBI can talk to him under oath and see if he does not remember or if he just blacked out during this rape party and now cannot honestly recall it. Republicans are doing the same damn thing they did in the Russia hearings - they ask a Trump team member a question - the Trump guy refuses to answer and they just say "oh-ok -next witness." What kind of an investigation is that? This guy - K's friend - can be legally subpoenaed and forced to appear at the hearing. He won't be. Who looks crooked here - the Dems who want an investigation - a proper investigation - or the repugs who avoid one at all costs.
What is the rush?
The only way this ends in a he said/she said - is because the Republicans will avoid finding the truth, not allow an investigation and continue their corruption.
Yes. It is a very interesting issue.
Nov. 6th will be the real verdict.
Sorry, but this will always end in he said/she said. For one, it happened 35 years ago. The reason we have a statute of limitations is because we know that over the course of time, evidence becomes harder and harder to gather and becomes less and less reliable. So this allegation, without a time or place, makes an investigation impossible. It is he said/she said at its essence. If this were brought to the DA, it would immediately be dropped. Sending it to the FBI is just a political ploy. For one, the FBI has no jurisdiction because no federal crime was committed. At most it would be a state crime and the local DA would have to investigate. For two, what can the FBI investigate? The witnesses on Kavanaugh's side say they deny anything like this ever happened. She has no witnesses and can't provide a time or place for them to investigate and see if stories corroborate. So what is the FBI going to investigate? What are they going to ask?
I think the story does sound credible. I'm not saying it happened. It could be completely false, as Diane Feinstein admitted. But it does sound credible, which is why it is an interesting case. But if she doesn't testify, I think it all just ends up looking political given all the other ploys the Dems have used. That really hurts her allegation. It's not so much what she said, but the timing.
I do think having a third witness does make her story interesting. For one, she would have to know that Kavanaugh would be friends with Judge at least to make that allegation. And it does lend some credence because claiming someone was in the room other than the two of them knowing that the someone is going to take Kavanaugh's side would seem to be a bad idea to lie about. At the same time, because of how this is being used politically, it could just as easy be spun to say that the detail was included intentionally to make the story look more legit.
It's just an interesting case. I have no idea if Kavanaugh is wrong accused or guilty as hell. I think under the law he is innocent. I think public opinion depends on how you are registered to vote.
ducks
09-19-2018, 11:20 AM
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ducks
09-19-2018, 11:22 AM
What Ford is trying to do is delay this tell midterms
Winehole23
09-19-2018, 11:29 AM
god forbid a nomination should ever be delayed for political reasons
god forbid a nomination should ever be delayed for political reasons
That's fair. But I see more legitimacy in Republicans doing that to Garland. No political pundit though Trump would win and if Hillary won, she would have nominated someone more left wing than Garland. There was no rule that the Republicans couldn't delay the hearings, even if it screwed Garland unfairly. That's the cost of Obama losing the Senate.
If this turns out to be a hoax, then it would be extremely underhanded and usher in a new kind of politics that I'm sure both sides would engage in that would divide the country even more. I mean, to delay because you control the Senate is one thing, but to make up a hoax story to destroy someone's credibility knowing it was false, well that would be really bad. Trump bad. Or maybe even worse than Trump. Well, probably just Trump bad. Of course, that's only assuming this is a hoax. It's just that there is no way to know with or without a hearing. And we all know that if a police force investigated (or even if the FBI did it even though they have no jurisdiction) they would eventually say there is not sufficient evidence to bring any charges because there isn't. Not in a criminal way. And the matter would go away except for the most extreme people that have already convicted him based on an allegation only. But that's only the left version of the right's Obama birth certificate crowd.
Spurs Homer
09-19-2018, 11:52 AM
Sorry, but this will always end in he said/she said. For one, it happened 35 years ago. The reason we have a statute of limitations is because we know that over the course of time, evidence becomes harder and harder to gather and becomes less and less reliable. So this allegation, without a time or place, makes an investigation impossible. It is he said/she said at its essence. If this were brought to the DA, it would immediately be dropped. Sending it to the FBI is just a political ploy. For one, the FBI has no jurisdiction because no federal crime was committed. At most it would be a state crime and the local DA would have to investigate. For two, what can the FBI investigate? The witnesses on Kavanaugh's side say they deny anything like this ever happened. She has no witnesses and can't provide a time or place for them to investigate and see if stories corroborate. So what is the FBI going to investigate? What are they going to ask?
I think the story does sound credible. I'm not saying it happened. It could be completely false, as Diane Feinstein admitted. But it does sound credible, which is why it is an interesting case. But if she doesn't testify, I think it all just ends up looking political given all the other ploys the Dems have used. That really hurts her allegation. It's not so much what she said, but the timing.
I do think having a third witness does make her story interesting. For one, she would have to know that Kavanaugh would be friends with Judge at least to make that allegation. And it does lend some credence because claiming someone was in the room other than the two of them knowing that the someone is going to take Kavanaugh's side would seem to be a bad idea to lie about. At the same time, because of how this is being used politically, it could just as easy be spun to say that the detail was included intentionally to make the story look more legit.
It's just an interesting case. I have no idea if Kavanaugh is wrong accused or guilty as hell. I think under the law he is innocent. I think public opinion depends on how you are registered to vote.
So much wrong here.
The only - only reason this will end up in a he said/she said (and I do agree it will end up that way) - but the only reason is because the Repugs refuse to allow the investigation. The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigations) according to Trump - no longer does this sort of things. Think of that for a minute. The liar in chief already convinced YOU that somehow the FBI does not do investigations. Do your research. The FBI is authorized to re-open his background check because obviously- they missed this - and obviously -new information has come to light. But.
There is only one person on the planet that could authorize this re-opening- yup - the sexual assaulter in chief who want nothing more than to BURY this investigation and all sexual assaults of any Republican. So there will be no FBI re-opening of this investigation only because the corrupt Repugs are hiding the truth.
If you look at the instances of how K perjured himself several times already under oath - this begs for the re-opening of the investigation but again - the truth, the facts, the credibility of the chosen SC justices are irrelevant to Republicans. A win for their criminal sexual assaulter in chief is all that the brainwashed zombie senators care about.
Winehole23
09-19-2018, 11:56 AM
But that's only the left version of the right's Obama birth certificate crowd.you're assuming the allegation isn't bona fide without any good cause -- the same can't be said for Birtherism.
boutons_deux
09-19-2018, 11:57 AM
"Two sources told me the White House has heard rumors that
Ford’s account will be verified by women who say she told it to them contemporaneously.
People worry, without apparent evidence, of another Ronan Farrow bomb dropping.
One source says
Ivanka Trump has told her father to “cut bait” and drop Kavanaugh.
Another reason Trump hasn’t gone to the mat for Kavanaugh is that he’s said to be suspicious of Kavanaugh’s establishment pedigree.
“‘He’s a Bush guy, why would I put myself out there defending him?’”
Trump told people, according to a former White House official briefed on the conversations.
Trump also has expressed frustration with White House counsel Don McGahn, who aggressively lobbied for him to choose Kavanaugh, a source said.
“Trump wants this guy on the court, but
Trump knows there are five other people he could put on the court if this falls apart,” a former official said.
-snip-
Even before the Kavanaugh crisis, Trump has been worried about Republicans’ declining fortunes, and he’s been finding ways to shift the blame.
Trump told a friend in the Oval Office last week that
it would be Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan’s fault if Republicans lost the House and the Senate,
according to a person familiar with the conversation.
“This is the election about Ryan and McConnell—it’s about those guys,” Trump said.
Trump referred to his 2020 campaign as “the real election.”
“It’s pure Trump. He has to come up with a way he’s not responsible if Republicans lose,”
a former West Wing staffer said."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/18/1796799/-Ivanka-Advising-Daddy-To-Cut-Bait-On-Kavanaugh-Plus-Trump-Calls-Him-A-Bush-Guy?detail=emaildkre
boutons_deux
09-19-2018, 12:00 PM
5 Former Prosecutors List Reasons Christine Blasey Ford's Accusation Against Kavanaugh is Credible. (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/19/1796897/-5-Former-Prosecutors-List-Reasons-Christine-Blasey-Ford-s-Accusation-Against-Kavanaugh-is-Credible)
Their reasons for finding Ford credible?
Corroboration _ Ford told her therapist in 2012, four years before Trump was elected and six before Kavanaugh was nominated.
Ford passed a polygraph, which, while inadmissible in court, is frequently used by the FBI to gauge witness credibility.
Ford has no motive to subject herself to what she knew would be a searing ordeal save to warn the nation about Kavanaugh’s lack of character.
Ford placed Mark Judge in the room where the attack occurred despite knowing Judge was a good friend of Kavanaugh and likely to lie for him if he thought he could get away with it.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/19/1796897/-5-Former-Prosecutors-List-Reasons-Christine-Blasey-Ford-s-Accusation-Against-Kavanaugh-is-Credible?detail=emaildkre
So much wrong here.
The only - only reason this will end up in a he said/she said (and I do agree it will end up that way) - but the only reason is because the Repugs refuse to allow the investigation. The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigations) according to Trump - no longer does this sort of things. Think of that for a minute. The liar in chief already convinced YOU that somehow the FBI does not do investigations. Do your research. The FBI is authorized to re-open his background check because obviously- they missed this - and obviously -new information has come to light. But.
There is only one person on the planet that could authorize this re-opening- yup - the sexual assaulter in chief who want nothing more than to BURY this investigation and all sexual assaults of any Republican. So there will be no FBI re-opening of this investigation only because the corrupt Repugs are hiding the truth.
If you look at the instances of how K perjured himself several times already under oath - this begs for the re-opening of the investigation but again - the truth, the facts, the credibility of the chosen SC justices are irrelevant to Republicans. A win for their criminal sexual assaulter in chief is all that the brainwashed zombie senators care about.
What do you think an investigation will turn up? I think you are watching too much TV. If she can't name the place or the time, what can the FBI do? All it can do is question people, but with no facts other than an allegation that something happened somewhere at sometime 35 years ago, what can they do. There was no rape so there is no DNA test. They don't have a location to see if it could be verified if any of them were ever there. They have no time period to determine where Ford was and where Kavanaugh was to even see if it was theoretically possible. This can only end as he said/she said with every named "witness" claiming that nothing like that ever happened. The FBI has nothing to investigate and is only being mentioned to cause a delay.
you're assuming the allegation isn't bona fide without any good cause -- the same can't be said for Birtherism.
No, I'm not. I'm saying that if you used any legal standard from preponderance of the evidence to beyond reasonable doubt, there is not enough evidence for a conviction. So if you conclude the story is true without any evidence other than a story that could be believable, then you are acting irrationally. Just like it's believable that Obama, based on his family history could have been born in Kenya, but the only evidence that exists shows that is plainly false.
I might agree with you if 15 other women came forward, but that's just not the case.
CosmicCowboy
09-19-2018, 12:04 PM
What do you think an investigation will turn up? I think you are watching too much TV. If she can't name the place or the time, what can the FBI do? All it can do is question people, but with no facts other than an allegation that something happened somewhere at sometime 35 years ago, what can they do. There was no rape so there is no DNA test. They don't have a location to see if it could be verified if any of them were ever there. They have no time period to determine where Ford was and where Kavanaugh was to even see if it was theoretically possible. This can only end as he said/she said with every named "witness" claiming that nothing like that ever happened. The FBI has nothing to investigate and is only being mentioned to cause a delay.
Yep. If she doesnt show Monday they need to go for cloture and a vote.
Winehole23
09-19-2018, 12:07 PM
No, I'm not. I'm saying that if you used any legal standard from preponderance of the evidence to beyond reasonable doubt, there is not enough evidence for a conviction. A confirmation hearing isn't a court. Judicial standards of proof do not and never have applied.
Senators vote their conscience. That's it.
Pure political determination. Always has been, always will.
Winehole23
09-19-2018, 12:08 PM
the only thing that has changed is norms.
there's much less deference to the executive or to professional qualifications.
boutons_deux
09-19-2018, 12:09 PM
Poll: Support for Kavanaugh was really low ... and then it dropped some more (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/19/1796919/-Poll-Support-for-Kavanaugh-was-really-low-and-then-it-dropped-some-more)
Support for Brett Kavanaugh to be confirmed to the Supreme Court was historically low before sexual assault allegations surfaced against him.
That support is getting lower.
A new Reuters/Ipsos poll (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-kavanaugh-poll/opposition-to-kavanaugh-grows-support-at-historic-low-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1LZ1WT) finds just
31 percent support for Kavanaugh,
with 36 percent of people opposed.
That opposition had risen six points from an August poll.
Even among Republicans, Kavanaugh has just 64 percent support.
For a bit of perspective, that makes him more unpopular than any nominee in the last three decades.
Even Harriet Miers (who was also -1) reached approval levels in the 40s. :lol
Even Robert Bork was more popular, at a +3 approval. :lol
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1796919
Spurs Homer
09-19-2018, 12:11 PM
What do you think an investigation will turn up? I think you are watching too much TV. If she can't name the place or the time, what can the FBI do? All it can do is question people, but with no facts other than an allegation that something happened somewhere at sometime 35 years ago, what can they do. There was no rape so there is no DNA test. They don't have a location to see if it could be verified if any of them were ever there. They have no time period to determine where Ford was and where Kavanaugh was to even see if it was theoretically possible. This can only end as he said/she said with every named "witness" claiming that nothing like that ever happened. The FBI has nothing to investigate and is only being mentioned to cause a delay.
C'mon man, seriously?
It is not rocket science. How many crimes looked unsolvable, no witnesses, no tape, too long ago, etc?
The FBI has experts that can find avenues to the truth. Their questioning might trigger a memory - which can lead to a kernel of a lead. This could come from her, from the other witness, from K.
They can piece together and actually discover that a party did take place, then they trace that. Then the attendees, then the address. There will be dead ends. There will be breakthroughs.
Say they come back empty. What is the harm? They can say - not enough evidence and then K can be confirmed with no stain to his record.
Say they come back with some additional facts - and then after having these facts - K - or Ford - get asked about these facts and one of them lies under oath?
So many ways this could end up - but at least the truth will emerge.
Trump will not authorize this. He will bury it. Spin it. Lie to your face and you will believe the liar with over 5,000 lies on his resume since taking an oath.
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