2021 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[Blake]

I don't get why the horns don't run the ball more. They have that huge line and they only use the rbs for 16 carries. Stupid, imo

[Cowhorns01]

☝Agree with that. It looks like they do it just to give the rb hope to get carries.

[Eastexhorn]

Whether or not he has any chance in the nfl is besides the point. It was obvious why we lost.

Yes Texas was out played and out coached main reason they lost.

[Eastexhorn]

After watching most other teams in Big 12 play yesterday future looks bad. Unless there is a drastic turn around in defense and some changes in offense ,Texas will be favored to win only over Kansas. Sadbut IMO true.

[Billybass]

Whether or not he has any chance in the nfl is besides the point. It was obvious why we lost.
Yep. Horrific officiating kept the game close. But, television sponsors are happy, because all butts were in a seat watching. Blowout ? Not so much.

[soldierhorn]

After watching most other teams in Big 12 play yesterday future looks bad. Unless there is a drastic turn around in defense and some changes in offense ,Texas will be favored to win only over Kansas. Sadbut IMO true.

The last time Texas went 1-6 against the Hornfrogs was the decade of the 1930s (1932-1938) with three coaches during that span (Littlefield, Chevigny, & Bible starting his tenure). This should NEVER happen to Longhorns against any opponent much less a small private school. Next year, in Fort Worth (or again this year in CCG), Herman can either produce a turnaround or post the worst record against TCU in UT history.

1932-1938 1-6
2014-2020 1-6
2012-2020 2-7

Year / Result / Head coach / Yr Results
1932 L0-14 C. Littlefield 8-2
1933 L0-30* C. Littlefield 4-5-2
1934 W20-19 Jack Chevigny 7-2-1
1935 L0-28* Jack Chevigny 4-6
1936 L6-27* Jack Chevigny 2-6-1
1937 L0-14* Dana X. Bible 2-6-1
1938 L6-28 Dana X. Bible 1-8


2014 L10-48* Charlie Strong 10-2
2015 L7-50 Charlie Strong 7-6
2016 L9-31* Charlie Strong 4-8
2017 L7-24 Tom Herman 7-6
2018 W16-31* Tom Herman 10-4
2019 L27-37 Tom Herman 8-5
2020 L31-33* Tom Herman 2-1


*=UT home game in Austin

[Rob57dal]

After watching most other teams in Big 12 play yesterday future looks bad. Unless there is a drastic turn around in defense and some changes in offense ,Texas will be favored to win only over Kansas. Sadbut IMO true.

That's exactly what I was thinking. We're going to make every qb we face look like a heisman contender.

[soldierhorn]

Ehlinger is not elite, but he is a very good QB, with a complete game. He does have some accuracy issues, especially today. His receivers did drop some balls though. The OL is a mess. Our ST was better today, but still a mess. Our D was better, but couldn't get stops when needed. We play undisciplined and commit too many penalties. Our coaching staff is subpar. Injuries are starting to mount.
Ingraham extending was not smart. Just take the down and try the next one.
The refs were atrocious. We still should have won despite their poor game, but they really did screw us over on about 5 or 6 horrible calls.
To blame Ehlinger for the loss is so erroneous.

good post. It is erroneous to blame the loss on Ehlinger. He was injured during the Tech game and suffered through this week's practices with a deep leg bruise and messed up left hand, which made going under center snaps difficult and it showed during the game. As a consequence, Ehlinger had a less than good game against TCU. Ehlinger is a very good college QB (a lot like Eric Crouch or Tim Tebow, IMO) but after 4 yrs, he still has accuracy issues, esp throwing behind receivers with receivers that are not bailing him out (eg,Duvernay & Collin Johnson).

Nonetheless, if the players know that the leader is not 100%, then they HAVE to pick up the slack and play better than they have... but they didnt. Not only was the run blocking bad but there were horrible penalties on HUGE plays (how does Jones completely miss the play call and run 5 yds downfield when he should be in pass pro?). Special teams didnt help out either committing a stupid, unnecessary penalty on the best runback (Jamison's) in a very long time. And, a few very noticeable dropped wide open passes (Smith) that could have changed the game. on and on and on... it should never have come down to a predictable 1 yd power run with an OL that hasnt been able to dictate the situation

Just read this on another board and thought it was well said:
"There’s no easy way to summarize this loss for Texas. Perhaps a comedy of errors is the only colloquial summation. The Longhorns didn’t lose because of their 12 penalties. They didn’t lose because of a pair of ill-timed turnovers. They didn’t lose because of ill-timed drops. They didn’t lose because of special teams miscues. They didn’t lose because of weird situational defensive calls, like Texas’ defensive front lining up preposterously wide on Max Duggan’s fourth-quarter touchdown run. They lost because of all of those things. "

[Eastexhorn]

Kickoff return was Jamison Fox announcers mixed up again.
I would have liked too have seen Thompson get a series or two. Never happen in modern football.

[playblair]

I don't get why the horns don't run the ball more. They have that huge line and they only use the rbs for 16 carries. Stupid, imo
you obviously dont watch texas games the o line can not run block they get blown up & make 0 holes

[bluebellmaniac]

Herman did great at UH. He'd be a perfect fit for taking UTSA to the next level. But he is not the guy that's going to ring for us.

Put Urban in the bull-pen. Warm him up.

[Mr. Peabody]

Kenyatta Watson headed to the transfer portal

[bluetrumpet]

Is he worried that Crawford is going to take his spot or is it the lack of playing time/production?

[Rob57dal]

Kenyatta Watson headed to the transfer portal

Well hell. Was hoping for good things from him.

[Blake]

you obviously dont watch texas games the o line can not run block they get blown up & make 0 holes

I've watched enough. Explain why the backs are averaging over 5 ypc

[pgardn]

I don't get why the horns don't run the ball more. They have that huge line and they only use the rbs for 16 carries. Stupid, imo

The middle 3 of the oline just are not that good imo.
Kerstetter is out of position, and our guards are just not that good.
The one bright spot is our RT who is really gonna be good. Cosmi, the LT, is gone to the NFL next year.
If you watched the run on the goal line where we fumbled you can see we did not get a great push and TCUs LB had a chance to jump it. We dont have a big H back type that can lead into the hole either. Thats a young TCU DL and we could not push them around when necessary. We open up some big plays, but that consistent 4-7 yards on run plays does not exist as it should playing a DL that was just not that good.

[playblair]

I've watched enough. Explain why the backs are averaging over 5 ypc
thats a fluke stat i assume you watched the texas v tech game u wouldve seen how turrible the run blocking was

[Blake]

thats a fluke stat i assume you watched the texas v tech game u wouldve seen how turrible the run blocking was

Oh a fluke stat.

[soldierhorn]

Oh a fluke stat.

People can make stats mean whatever they want, thus, stats need to be put in some kind of context. For instance, Ehlinger was the second leading rusher (which should not happen) with only 49 net yds (6.1 av). 36 of those yds came on one play. The remaining 7 rushes were for a total of 13 yds (0.8 av); not exactly impressive in context.

[Blake]

People can make stats mean whatever they want, thus, stats need to be put in some kind of context. For instance, Ehlinger was the second leading rusher (which should not happen) with only 49 net yds (6.1 av). 36 of those yds came on one play. The remaining 7 rushes were for a total of 13 yds (0.8 av); not exactly impressive in context.

Especially since a sack counts as a rush. It's why I stated from the get go "running backs".

[playblair]

Especially since a sack counts as a rush. It's why I stated from the get go "running backs".
here bruh this will help u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMThpGcVezk

[Blake]

here bruh this will help u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMThpGcVezk

Oh a 20 video of nothing but bad plays

[playblair]

Oh a 20 video of nothing but bad plays
first 40 seconds literally shows the oline missing on every block of the first possession run&pass

[Blake]

first 40 seconds literally shows the oline missing on every block of the first possession run&pass

The video is literally titled "every bad play"

[Billybass]

Ironic that a red raider defending horns against an aggie. Lol.

Crazy addiction. I think the sport is rigged, yet cannot stop watching it !

oh well, I guess it is what it is.

[woofwoof]

The problem is we just aren't that good.

[soldierhorn]

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[Rob57dal]

The problem is we just aren't that good.

In CTH 4th year. There should already be a culture of a disciplined football team where everyone is held accountable. Instead of " we gave to do better" etc.

[soldierhorn]

what is CTH?

[bluebellmaniac]

what is CTH?

Coach Tom Herman

[Eastexhorn]

Can you just drop the C make it TH.

[soldierhorn]

Can you just drop the C make it TH.
ah, that would be much easier to type - wouldnt it? Why would someone add a title to initials? this looks like an aggy-sec type thing

Does this work for other coaches and athletic directors? ACDC?

[Billybass]

We have played great in last 3 bowl games...we are terribly inconsistent. And we are not good enough to overcome multiple bad calls. Especially when they are playing a well coached team.

[Blake]

Ironic that a red raider defending horns against an aggie. Lol.

Crazy addiction. I think the sport is rigged, yet cannot stop watching it !

oh well, I guess it is what it is.

I'm not defending anything. I'm just asking why the horns don't run the ball more with those running backs

[Blake]

We have played great in last 3 bowl games...we are terribly inconsistent. And we are not good enough to overcome multiple bad calls. Especially when they are playing a well coached team.

Well yeah, when a good team underperforms, they end up in a lesser bowl where they [usually] win.

[Blake]

Can you just drop the C make it TH.

I think UTHCTH would be much simpler, imo

[Billybass]

Well yeah, when a good team underperforms, they end up in a lesser bowl where they [usually] win.
We beat Georgia in sugar bowl 2 years ago. Completely destroyed Utah last year

[Vito Corleone]

Stick a fork in Tommie boy, he is done at Texas, Boosters are now talking about who is up next. Sounds like Urban is the man to beat. I can honestly see him keeping both coordinators and a select few assistants like JV.

Lets face it, Tom was not ready for this job.

[bluebellmaniac]

Stick a fork in Tommie boy, he is done at Texas, Boosters are now talking about who is up next. Sounds like Urban is the man to beat. I can honestly see him keeping both coordinators and a select few assistants like JV.

Lets face it, Tom was not ready for this job.

I'm telling you, he'd be great for UTSA.

[playblair]

5* cb domani jackson will visit texas this week & has set a commitment date of oct 24

[Eastexhorn]

Most missed my point which was coach and Tom Herman do not go together.

[pgardn]

I am so gone if its Urban fckn Meyer.
Disgusts me to even entertain the thought.

[playblair]

I am so gone if its Urban fckn Meyer.
Disgusts me to even entertain the thought.
bye you will be back when he turns texas around

[Vito Corleone]

I'm not a fan of Urban Meyer as a man, but he is a winner and we really need a winner right now. Lord knows Herman isn't the answer.

Herman might be the answer in about 10 years but as of today he just isn't ready to be a coach at a University like Texas.

[soldierhorn]

I'm not a fan of Urban Meyer as a man, but he is a winner and we really need a winner right now. Lord knows Herman isn't the answer.
Herman might be the answer in about 10 years but as of today he just isn't ready to be a coach at a University like Texas.

I feel the same way about Meyer and Herman. And, the main reason is I'm not sure CDC knows how to evaluate young coaching talent -- that usually takes an experienced coach to see traits that non-coaches cant see. It took Darrell Royal to force Deloss to hire Mack Brown. It took DX Bible to hire Darrell Royal from 5-5 Washington team. Where is that mentor to CDC to hire the next head coach? in north carolina? So the quick fix is to hire an undesirable Urban Meyer

[Juan Grande]

Stick a fork in Tommie boy, he is done at Texas, Boosters are now talking about who is up next. Sounds like Urban is the man to beat. I can honestly see him keeping both coordinators and a select few assistants like JV.
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Urban has been petitioning for the job. Word is that he attempted to open channels alittle while back. Plus there was his somewhat rousing compliment of the program on live TV in the pregame. He did this once before 10 years ago going out of his way to publicly praise Texas football.
On top of that, I have no doubt he would love to take Herman's players and do what Herman could not do with them, win the conference with them and make the playoffs (and maybe a NC). And he might be able to do all that.
But it's unclear if someone with Urban's reputation would ever be considered. I kind of doubt it.
I think one of the more interesting questions we have to wait to see is whether CDC has full control here, or whether the academic side will interfere again.

See https://footballscoop.com/news/the-problems-with-texas-football-according-to-urban-meyer/


https://youtu.be/GLi2KEoNNr0

[Vito Corleone]

Urban has been petitioning for the job. Word is that he attempted to open channels alittle while back. Plus there was his somewhat rousing compliment of the program on live TV in the pregame. He did this once before 10 years ago going out of his way to publicly praise Texas football.
On top of that, I have no doubt he would love to take Herman's players and do what Herman could not do with them, win the conference with them and make the playoffs (and maybe a NC). And he might be able to do all that.
But it's unclear if someone with Urban's reputation would ever be considered. I kind of doubt it.
I think one of the more interesting questions we have to wait to see is whether CDC has full control here, or whether the academic side will interfere again.

See https://footballscoop.com/news/the-problems-with-texas-football-according-to-urban-meyer/


https://youtu.be/GLi2KEoNNr0


I didn't attend the University of Texas so I really don't have a right to attack the academic side, but I'm going to. I am very much at odds with the academic side of UT and most every university right now. Not because I am a football fan, but because they are socialist hypocrites when it comes to football. Lets face it, Universities have football because it is advertisement to entice kids to attend the University. This is why places like UTSA and Texas State have put so much money into their football programs. Some programs like Texas are actually making money and give back to the University, but it seems that the University isn't willing to give the football program the ability to win games.

I'm not asking for them to go full on SMU or renegade, and I appreciate there is a commitment to honesty, but lets face it, in today's day and age, you either want to win or you want to play fair. You can't have it both ways, there is a gift horse in front of us, and we seem to keep looking it in the mouth.

I had one goal for tom this year, prove you can win a conference, and I guess that is still on the table, but I just don't see it happening. His circumstances will never be better than they are right now. And he still can't beat a very pedestrian TCU team. This is the most talented team Texas has fielded since 2009 and we can't seem to stop anyone and we are still extremely undisciplined. What I don't see is attention to detail, if I did, then I wouldn't see DBs getting toasted, and running backs fumbling at the 1 yard line. This is on Tom Herman.

Look I like a number of coaches out there, and I'm sure any number of them can come in and do a good job, but more than anything, Texas needs a winner and name recognition, and Urban brings that. Kids know Urban will get them winning, and get them to the league. Tom's time is up. To be honest, there are only a few assistants I might let go, in fact, I think Texas has the assistants to get the job done outside of Hand. What they need is a leader to set the tone and Tom isn't that guy.

Maybe in about 5 to 10 years Tom will be that guy, but today he isn't. Right now he is in over his head.

[leemajors]

I don't think UT is in any position financially to pay Herman's buyout. They just had to cut 28 million in costs which will basically be out of the 2021 budget, and his buyout is 20 million?

[bluetrumpet]

There isn’t a single school in the country that has the funds to buyout their coaches especially one that is 20mil

[pgardn]

I didn't attend the University of Texas so I really don't have a right to attack the academic side, but I'm going to. I am very much at odds with the academic side of UT and most every university right now. Not because I am a football fan, but because they are socialist hypocrites when it comes to football. Lets face it, Universities have football because it is advertisement to entice kids to attend the University. This is why places like UTSA and Texas State have put so much money into their football programs. Some programs like Texas are actually making money and give back to the University, but it seems that the University isn't willing to give the football program the ability to win games.

I'm not asking for them to go full on SMU or renegade, and I appreciate there is a commitment to honesty, but lets face it, in today's day and age, you either want to win or you want to play fair. You can't have it both ways, there is a gift horse in front of us, and we seem to keep looking it in the mouth.

I had one goal for tom this year, prove you can win a conference, and I guess that is still on the table, but I just don't see it happening. His circumstances will never be better than they are right now. And he still can't beat a very pedestrian TCU team. This is the most talented team Texas has fielded since 2009 and we can't seem to stop anyone and we are still extremely undisciplined. What I don't see is attention to detail, if I did, then I wouldn't see DBs getting toasted, and running backs fumbling at the 1 yard line. This is on Tom Herman.

Look I like a number of coaches out there, and I'm sure any number of them can come in and do a good job, but more than anything, Texas needs a winner and name recognition, and Urban brings that. Kids know Urban will get them winning, and get them to the league. Tom's time is up. To be honest, there are only a few assistants I might let go, in fact, I think Texas has the assistants to get the job done outside of Hand. What they need is a leader to set the tone and Tom isn't that guy.

Maybe in about 5 to 10 years Tom will be that guy, but today he isn't. Right now he is in over his head.

I like some of this, and some of it sounds like the ATM Sec forum.
I am 4th generation UT. My Grandfather and father went to UT law school. This does not give me any more or less fandom than you deserve to have, but honest got God this sounds like what my father thinks about Texas ATM.

The money for likeness stuff was already a blow. Now hiring a lying asshole.
To win football games. The University is bigger than this. And yes I was dying on Saturday watching that game, I could not even post.
I threw a workout tantrum on the bike and tried to kill every muscle in my body for 3 hours.

No Meyer. Please please come up with someone, anyone else.
BTW was it not Mack Brown that suggested Herman? Royal was better at seeing I guess, find a guy like Royal to advise.

ATm

Sherrill
Franchione
Jimbo (crablegs- go scream on the table in the student cafeteria to the girlies)
Sumlin

Then go play for the SEC.
Im not joining that group of wannabe soldiers.
Adios amigos. I hope we find the right guy, cause by default its not Meyer.

[playblair]

I feel the same way about Meyer and Herman. And, the main reason is I'm not sure CDC knows how to evaluate young coaching talent -- that usually takes an experienced coach to see traits that non-coaches cant see. It took Darrell Royal to force Deloss to hire Mack Brown. It took DX Bible to hire Darrell Royal from 5-5 Washington team. Where is that mentor to CDC to hire the next head coach? in north carolina? So the quick fix is to hire an undesirable Urban Meyer

cdc has hired 3 successful coaches in his short texas tenure cdc is an excellent coaching evaluator do u only follow texas football? the cdc hires of the track/softball/basbketball coaches have all been tremendously successful & turned their teams around in less than 2 years

[playblair]

Urban has been petitioning for the job. Word is that he attempted to open channels alittle while back. Plus there was his somewhat rousing compliment of the program on live TV in the pregame. He did this once before 10 years ago going out of his way to publicly praise Texas football.
On top of that, I have no doubt he would love to take Herman's players and do what Herman could not do with them, win the conference with them and make the playoffs (and maybe a NC). And he might be able to do all that.
But it's unclear if someone with Urban's reputation would ever be considered. I kind of doubt it.
I think one of the more interesting questions we have to wait to see is whether CDC has full control here, or whether the academic side will interfere again.

See https://footballscoop.com/news/the-problems-with-texas-football-according-to-urban-meyer/


https://youtu.be/GLi2KEoNNr0
the new ad at texas leans more towards the football side so he would be ok with the meyer hire
its time to get rid of the admins at texas who for the past decade have tried to turn texas into ut berkeley
texas should be a football school first & foremost

[playblair]

I like some of this, and some of it sounds like the ATM Sec forum.
I am 4th generation UT. My Grandfather and father went to UT law school. This does not give me any more or less fandom than you deserve to have, but honest got God this sounds like what my father thinks about Texas ATM.

The money for likeness stuff was already a blow. Now hiring a lying asshole.
To win football games. The University is bigger than this. And yes I was dying on Saturday watching that game, I could not even post.
I threw a workout tantrum on the bike and tried to kill every muscle in my body for 3 hours.

No Meyer. Please please come up with someone, anyone else.
BTW was it not Mack Brown that suggested Herman? Royal was better at seeing I guess, find a guy like Royal to advise.

ATm

Sherrill
Franchione
Jimbo (crablegs- go scream on the table in the student cafeteria to the girlies)
Sumlin

Then go play for the SEC.
Im not joining that group of wannabe soldiers.
Adios amigos. I hope we find the right guy, cause by default its not Meyer.
mack brown paid for players & had thugs/criminals on the team stop being a hypocrite

[Eastexhorn]

Why has Texas been the grave yard for coaches the last decade? Do they forget how to coach when hired by Texas?
Best guess is too much media and other distractions. Too much pressure by big donors to win.
For sure something happens Charlie and Tom did not suddenly forget how to coach or did they.

I know coaching makes a big difference whether at JH, HS JC or big universitiessome just get more out of players.
Somehow Texas needs to find one of those.Urban is one hire him or crap shoot again.

[200 miles]

The launch of the Longhorn Network signaled the beginning of the end for the burnt orange nation, imo.

[playblair]

texas just lost its top commit to oklahoma the class now sits in the mid 20s with only 1 top 100 player...........no matter the outcome of the season herman cant live this down

[Vito Corleone]

I like some of this, and some of it sounds like the ATM Sec forum.
I am 4th generation UT. My Grandfather and father went to UT law school. This does not give me any more or less fandom than you deserve to have, but honest got God this sounds like what my father thinks about Texas ATM.

The money for likeness stuff was already a blow. Now hiring a lying asshole.
To win football games. The University is bigger than this. And yes I was dying on Saturday watching that game, I could not even post.
I threw a workout tantrum on the bike and tried to kill every muscle in my body for 3 hours.

No Meyer. Please please come up with someone, anyone else.
BTW was it not Mack Brown that suggested Herman? Royal was better at seeing I guess, find a guy like Royal to advise.

ATm

Sherrill
Franchione
Jimbo (crablegs- go scream on the table in the student cafeteria to the girlies)
Sumlin

Then go play for the SEC.
Im not joining that group of wannabe soldiers.
Adios amigos. I hope we find the right guy, cause by default its not Meyer.

It's interesting, I've been following Texas football since 1977. I was a kid watching Earl, but after that year I was a Texas fan for life. In that time I watched Texas play for 4 National titles and lose 3 of them. I saw the wheels fall off in 1984. I saw Mack Brown come in and struggle but eventually get that Natty. I saw Colt get hurt and the fall since. Here is the crazy thing. in 43 seasons of Texas football 28 of them were crap. Yet I'm still here.

It's pretty sad to say that, but it's true. 28 years is a lot of bad football. Texas deserves a good coach and I don't care who it is, I just want results. I think we can control Meyer.

[Vito Corleone]

Bowman has decommitted.

[Biggems]

I don't want meyer either. He is a complete scumbag. I can't stand Spurrier, but I would welcome him with open arms if it means keeping meyer out of Austin.

[soldierhorn]

The launch of the Longhorn Network signaled the beginning of the end for the burnt orange nation, imo.

This is absolute nonsense.

[Juan Grande]

Why has Texas been the grave yard for coaches the last decade? Do they forget how to coach when hired by Texas?
Best guess is too much media and other distractions. Too much pressure by big donors to win.
For sure something happens Charlie and Tom did not suddenly forget how to coach or did they.
I know coaching makes a big difference whether at JH, HS JC or big universitiessome just get more out of players.
Somehow Texas needs to find one of those.Urban is one hire him or crap shoot again.

We seem to be at our worst when the academic side picks the head coach
For example, Bill Powers picked Strong
Bill Cunningham picked Mackovic (over quite a bit of opposition)
They can probably prevent a Meyer hire if CDC made that choice, but I doubt he will so it seems a moot point. Hopefully the academics stay out of it whatever he decides.
Meyer has definitely reached out to us through "channels."

As to Hermann, supposedly he was not Perrin's first choice but the big money from Houston (who had the power at that time) convinced him

[pgardn]

It's interesting, I've been following Texas football since 1977. I was a kid watching Earl, but after that year I was a Texas fan for life. In that time I watched Texas play for 4 National titles and lose 3 of them. I saw the wheels fall off in 1984. I saw Mack Brown come in and struggle but eventually get that Natty. I saw Colt get hurt and the fall since. Here is the crazy thing. in 43 seasons of Texas football 28 of them were crap. Yet I'm still here.

It's pretty sad to say that, but it's true. 28 years is a lot of bad football. Texas deserves a good coach and I don't care who it is, I just want results. I think we can control Meyer.

You are pure fan then and I respect that.
I was already on the edge ready to step off and let my dad fend for himself and his fandom.
There is something about rooting for a team you inherited because of your family and then going there that really makes no practical sense which is why we are called fans. I got 2° from that school and the people that I met helped me so much into my current situation.

logically football does not have to go along with that.
it’s my defect and I will just have to partition school and football.
i’m out with Meyer just like I was with Saban.

When Herman went ahead with R. Letio and now Moore I sequestered big wtfs? Never felt entirely comfortable. Current college football may make it impossible to please someone like me and that’s tough luck for me. I have a dirty side limit that can’t be defended logically. I think we all do.

[soldierhorn]

We seem to be at our worst when the academic side picks the head coach
For example, Bill Powers picked Strong
Bill Cunningham picked Mackovic (over quite a bit of opposition)
They can probably prevent a Meyer hire if CDC made that choice, but I doubt he will so it seems a moot point. Hopefully the academics stay out of it whatever he decides.
Meyer has definitely reached out to us through "channels."
As to Hermann, supposedly he was not Perrin's first choice but the big money from Houston (who had the power at that time) convinced him

Exactly. Going back to when Robert Berdahl was president (at least; maybe further back to Lorene Rogers), the UT administrators have had an obsession with being a Texas version of Stanford or CAL Berkeley where all sports are treated equally (in perception if nothing else) and lesser value than academics. A lot of USC fans are clamoring to go independent since being a peer to Stanford, Berkeley, and Bruin (as well as being in PAC12) means falling further behind while allowing Ducks to do what they want with NIKE money; something has to change or Trojans will develop a culture where football is irrelevant, if it hasnt happened already. The Ivy League decided to drop down to Div2 (FCS) for this exact reason in the late '50s, IIRC

In the late 1970s, DKR was fighting two battles: 1) he despised all the cheating that was going on, esp by Switzer and knew what it would take to compete in that environment (and, everybody else did too; as a result, the cheating culture went off the charts in the '80s and was instrumental in the downfall of the SWC); 2) on the admin/BOR side, there was a strong contingent that wanted Royal gone as they thought his program was getting too powerful and overshadowing the academic perception that they wanted to achieve. And, people wonder why DKR retired so young (smh)

In one of my books on UT Longhorn football history, a question was asked to DX Bible that I found intriguing: What did you see in Darrell Royal that made you want to hire him almost immediately with the understanding that Royal's coaching record was quite pedestrian at that point (UW 5-5; two yrs at Miss St w/ 6-4 record ea yr; & stint in CFL, IIRC)? Bible alluded to character & leadership traits more so than past success [paraphrased]. I dont think this is something an academic will be able to determine without help. If you are a good leader, you know it when you see it in others - it's not theoretical - and it's certainly not pandering

[200 miles]

This is absolute nonsense.
If you say so. I only said that because it unnecessarily takes time, however small it may be, from Herman's planning for the
next game. This is especially on a week to week basis. But after a bye week with more time, has Herman ever lost? I think maybe two years against OkieSt was the only time. All I'm saying is he needs as much possible to get the team ready for the next game without compromising his time to Galindo and Way. In fact the only time he should speak to the media would be at his weekly press conference. Furthermore I believe that the network overall contributes to an air of toxicity in the program's identity and culture. It still leaves a lingering sense of entitlement for recruits as well as current players, especially for anyone of them who inserts the phrase "because we're Texas" into their statements. It cost Mack and Charlie their jobs, and now it's happening to Herman. The fact that the burnt orange nation is oblivious to the harmful effects of that network will only continue its existence, if not strengthen it.

But hey, what do I know? I must be some clueless fan who's been following this team for a short time since 2001. Just my two cents.

[soldierhorn]

If you say so. I only said that because it unnecessarily takes time, however small it may be, from Herman's planning for the
next game. This is especially on a week to week basis. But after a bye week with more time, has Herman ever lost? I think maybe two years against OkieSt was the only time. All I'm saying is he needs as much possible to get the team ready for the next game without compromising his time to Galindo and Way. In fact the only time he should speak to the media would be at his weekly press conference. Furthermore I believe that the network overall contributes to an air of toxicity in the program's identity and culture. It still leaves a lingering sense of entitlement for recruits as well as current players, especially for anyone of them who inserts the phrase "because we're Texas" into their statements. It cost Mack and Charlie their jobs, and now it's happening to Herman. The fact that the burnt orange nation is oblivious to the harmful effects of that network will only continue its existence, if not strengthen it.
But hey, what do I know? I must be some clueless fan who's been following this team for a short time since 2001. Just my two cents.

The LHN requirements should not be onerous for a good leader. PR and hobnobbing are at least 50% of the headcoaching job at UT with or without the LHN. If you are a good leader and mentor, then you train your subordinates to replace you (or go get other jobs that are promotions). The OC and DC SHOULD be able to handle the day to day schedule, planning and training necessary once the head coach gives his guidance and criteria for the week. If the head coach has to be there to oversee or get directly involved in every aspect of the program, then he is conducting OJT and not being a good leader. After FOUR years, if Herman hasnt developed a leadership culture where this can occur while he is the PR face of the program (like Mack Brown was), then we are admitting that Herman is in over his head and would also be over his head at Bama, Ohio St, Michigan, USC, etc. If your perception is true (and it may be), then that means Herman is not a good enough leader to be head coach at UT - at least not now.

As a side note, I would be surprised if any other head coaches arent doing as many coach's shows and interviews as Herman does on the LHN. It's really not that much; it's just a dedicated outlet

[soldierhorn]

SIAP...

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Maybe coincidental but interesting that his announcement is during the RRSheetshow... eerrr Shootout

[200 miles]

The LHN requirements should not be onerous for a good leader. PR and hobnobbing are at least 50% of the headcoaching job at UT with or without the LHN. If you are a good leader and mentor, then you train your subordinates to replace you (or go get other jobs that are promotions). The OC and DC SHOULD be able to handle the day to day schedule, planning and training necessary once the head coach gives his guidance and criteria for the week. If the head coach has to be there to oversee or get directly involved in every aspect of the program, then he is conducting OJT and not being a good leader. After FOUR years, if Herman hasnt developed a leadership culture where this can occur while he is the PR face of the program (like Mack Brown was), then we are admitting that Herman is in over his head and would also be over his head at Bama, Ohio St, Michigan, USC, etc. If your perception is true (and it may be), then that means Herman is not a good enough leader to be head coach at UT - at least not now.

As a side note, I would be surprised if any other head coaches arent doing as many coach's shows and interviews as Herman does on the LHN. It's really not that much; it's just a dedicated outlet

So would you think that Urban would fare much better in this program's atmosphere based solely on his experience and track record? If so, it would bring an interesting turn of direction in terms of the university's priorities regarding Urban's past troubles.

[Eastexhorn]

I belive that Brown complained about LHN taking time away from coaching. A lot of things is wrong including political corectness BS.
I have no say or control over coaching changes so for a few more years I will live with whateverhap

[soldierhorn]

So would you think that Urban would fare much better in this program's atmosphere based solely on his experience and track record? If so, it would bring an interesting turn of direction in terms of the university's priorities regarding Urban's past troubles.

I'm not a big UM fan and never have been, even when he was HC at Utah (more gimmick than substance, IMO back then). His stint at UF gave his reputation a huge black eye, however, he restored a lot of that at OSU since it wasnt as much player involved. The question is: should coaches be given the opportunity to learn from their mistakes? Should Les Miles be given a second chance at KU? I think so even though I dont like him. Mangino? maybe. Art Briles? probably not (his cheating went all the way back to Stevenville; therefore, it's ingrained and part of his character, IMO. And, the invasive player criminal conduct in the BU program was beyond one player doing something stupid). Even though I dont like Meyer so much, I think he is smart enough to learn from his past mistakes: one being on the player side and the other on the staff side so I'm on the bubble with him. If I were AD, I would take a chance on UM but put serious and specific character clauses in his contract so that he could be fired "with cause" upon any real or perceived misstep that could bring discredit on the University

To answer you question directly, yes, UM would do much better than Herman based on his experience and "track record" (if by that you mean being retired twice as HC; I believe he is still employed at OSU). It wont happen but TH would benefit being UM's assistant again (or head coach in waiting) to watch and learn how to balance head coaching responsibilities at a high visibility program

Is it possible that UM was less prepared to go from a G5 HC gig (UU) to a high-vis P5 HC job (UF), than TH was coming from a G5 HC gig (UH) to a high-vis HC job (UT)? Both being about 41 yrs of age at time of getting the high vis job. It's very possible that UM really wants a high-vis job to fix his legacy and be the first to win a championship at three different schools; making him one of the best college football coaches of all time, regardless of opinion. And, Texas is ripe to help UM achieve his legacy goals. In that regard, he could very well be highly conscience of the ramifications to his legacy if he screws up.

[soldierhorn]

I belive that Brown complained about LHN taking time away from coaching. A lot of things is wrong including political corectness BS.
I have no say or control over coaching changes so for a few more years I will live with whateverhap

yep, IIRC, Mack was concerned about it before it was fully implemented but later found out it wasnt such a big deal. It's only my opinion but I think by 2011, Mack had half given up on the program knowing that he should have retired after the 2009 season regardless of outcome. there was also movement to force him to retire and anything that made mandates on his time was considered an annoyance and not just the LHN (jmo) The problem with Mack and the LHN was that if he was not putting forth the effort in the program and it seriously underachieves, then any PR is not going to be fun including mandated shows on LHN. Mack Brown enjoyed talking about the 2012 #1 recruiting class but later it wasnt enjoyable to talk about what turned out to be one of the most disappointing and underachieving classes of all time. Texas isnt a place to go and hide (or fly to Florida under the auspices of in-home recruiting) when things become difficult

[soldierhorn]

I hate to say it but...

the game THIS WEEK is likely a MUST WIN for TH.

[soldierhorn]

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[Biggems]

The Longhorn Network was not a great move for us as part of the Big 12. A league network would have brought the schools together, and solidified the conference. IMO, we still have Nebraska, CU, Missouri, and A&M.....we could have still added TCU and West Virginia.

The league as a whole would get more national exposure and far better recruiting across the board.

[leemajors]

You don't think Aggies would have left anyway if the SEC came courting?

[benefactor]

You don't think Aggies would have left anyway if the SEC came courting?
They would have

[Vito Corleone]

Nothing would have changed as far at schools leaving to other conference.

Long before the LHN was even announced, Missouri was working to try and get into the Big 10, they have wanted into that conference since they were in the big 8. Same with Colorado going to the Pac, their biggest cluster of alumni outside of Colorado is in California. Nebraska got the offer that Missouri wanted and thinking the big 12 was breaking up and hating how Texas centric the Big 12 was, they jumped.

Missouri had already burned too many bridges to come back to the Big 12, but they did for a few weeks until the SEC gave them an offer they couldn't refuse.

Aggy suffered from AAS (Abused Aggy Syndrome) they wanted to prove that little brother had big boy pants.

IMO The only real mistake was that Texas and Oklahoma didn't just blow up the conference and also leave.

This is where the LHN comes in.

Texas couldn't leave after they signed that deal, no other conference would take them. Now that we know there just isn't enough content available to have a single school channel, it will make it much easier to kick it to the curb or perhaps modify it to mingle with an conference channel.

Texas and Oklahoma need out of the Big 12, and USC and a few Pac schools want out of the Pac, it's a perfect marriage for a new Soutwest Conference. I'm hoping that is what happens.

[Woodhead]

"It's interesting, I've been following Texas football since 1977. I was a kid watching Earl, but after that year I was a Texas fan for life. In that time I watched Texas play for 4 National titles and lose 3 of them. I saw the wheels fall off in 1984. I saw Mack Brown come in and struggle but eventually get that Natty. I saw Colt get hurt and the fall since. Here is the crazy thing. in 43 seasons of Texas football 28 of them were crap. Yet I'm still here.

It's pretty sad to say that, but it's true. 28 years is a lot of bad football. Texas deserves a good coach and I don't care who it is, I just want results. I think we can control Meyer."
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Then who's to blame if they can't "control" Meyer and get the desired results? The AD and staff fires itself? Riley worked out for OU (mostly) and I think they should explore that route instead.

[Juan Grande]

...In one of my books on UT Longhorn football history, a question was asked to DX Bible that I found intriguing: What did you see in Darrell Royal that made you want to hire him almost immediately with the understanding that Royal's coaching record was quite pedestrian at that point (UW 5-5; two yrs at Miss St w/ 6-4 record ea yr; & stint in CFL, IIRC)? Bible alluded to character & leadership traits more so than past success [paraphrased]. I dont think this is something an academic will be able to determine without help. If you are a good leader, you know it when you see it in others - it's not theoretical - and it's certainly not pandering

Good points. We have no choice but to hope CDC has this same sense, the ability to recognize true coaching talent, despite the presence or lack of sensationalism over the name.
And then the academic/admin side of things must stay out of it and let him do his job.
So far, he has made good hires. Both here and where he came from. But his full reputation is going to rise or sink on this next hire. No pressure.

[Juan Grande]

The LHN requirements should not be onerous for a good leader. ...

I've always thought looking at the LHN requirements as being too touch on our coach is a cop out. In fact, I see it as just the opposite. I feel strongly our coaches have never fully realized the max potential of what that network could be to the football program. Other than the added revenues, it's been a squandered opportunity. Something I regret.

[playblair]

more bad news texas 247 mod attending regis commitment has just said texas a&m is now the leader & regis will pick aggy

[playblair]

who was the poster that said he would quit rooting for texas if urban was hired? time to see if u go through with it
well respected texas insider said today that texas reached out to urban meyer

[woofwoof]

This is absolute nonsense.

Around the same time. We started sucking.

[Vito Corleone]

Then who's to blame if they can't "control" Meyer and get the desired results? The AD and staff fires itself? Riley worked out for OU (mostly) and I think they should explore that route instead.

Meyer is to blame if you can't control Meyer.

Barry Switzer after he was fired by Oklahoma was asked in an interview what he would do different, He said, I wouldn't have recruited those guys that caused the problems.

This is the point, Tom Herman is to blame for getting fired, same with Urban if he gets fired. Who is to blame for hiring Tom Herman, to be honest, it was some powerful boosters in the Houston area that really pushed for him and they also fit the bill for his hiring and the firing of Charlie Strong. So they actually put their money where their mouth is.

You don't hire a coordinator to coach at Texas unless you also have a baby sitter to help him make every decision. Charlie Strong didn't work out because he wasn't ready for a job like this, Tom Herman has proven on several occasions he isn't ready for a job like this. There are few people with the skillset to handle a job like this. I honestly think Urban is one of those people.

Only time and opportunity will tell us if he is. Lets also remember there is only two other program that are like the Texas job and that is USC and Notre Dame. Even Bama and Ohio State don't have the issues that a coach at Texas must deal with.

Ultra rich and demanding boosters
Ultra demanding high school coaches
LHN
Politics of the state
Politics of dealing with other Texas schools

If you are a great coach and love just coaching football, I dare say Texas isn't the right job for you, once you are a head coach you do so little coaching. Your job is to basically run a major corporation. You have to create a atmosphere and adhere to it, you have to create a process and adhere to it. It should be easier at Texas but I dare say, borrowing from Spiderman, "with great power, comes great responsibility".

This is why Tom Herman is failing, this is why Charlie Strong failed, and this is why 90% of the coaches out there would also fail.

[soldierhorn]

The Longhorn Network was not a great move for us as part of the Big 12. A league network would have brought the schools together, and solidified the conference. IMO, we still have Nebraska, CU, Missouri, and A&M.....we could have still added TCU and West Virginia.
The league as a whole would get more national exposure and far better recruiting across the board.

A Big12 cable network would have never worked and they all knew it, including aggy, nebbie, mizzy and buffy and why they decided to not go forward with a network. A state of Texas network (Lonestar network) would have worked but aggy AD, Bill Byrne, declined the partnership offer from Deloss.

[soldierhorn]

Nothing would have changed as far at schools leaving to other conference.
Long before the LHN was even announced, Missouri was working to try and get into the Big 10, they have wanted into that conference since they were in the big 8. Same with Colorado going to the Pac, their biggest cluster of alumni outside of Colorado is in California. Nebraska got the offer that Missouri wanted and thinking the big 12 was breaking up and hating how Texas centric the Big 12 was, they jumped.
Missouri had already burned too many bridges to come back to the Big 12, but they did for a few weeks until the SEC gave them an offer they couldn't refuse.
Aggy suffered from AAS (Abused Aggy Syndrome) they wanted to prove that little brother had big boy pants.

Agree with all this only to add that aggy/mizzy also decided to leave the Big12 (Aug/Sep 2010 soon after nebbie announced they were leaving in Jun/Jul 2010) before the LHN was conceived (Dec 2010) and this is known due to aggy "Bowtie" Loftin bragging how he got them out of the Big12 and into the sec during a lunch-in. In reality, the LHN had nothing to do with any of the teams leaving; it was only a hysteric rallying cry to whip up the fan base in 2011.



This is where the LHN comes in.
Texas couldn't leave after they signed that deal, no other conference would take them. Now that we know there just isn't enough content available to have a single school channel, it will make it much easier to kick it to the curb or perhaps modify it to mingle with an conference channel.

The way I see it, the only conference the LHN might be a problem is with the B10 but there are ways to work that out. the sec and acc should not be a problem since they all sold their souls to ESPN as well. Pac12 commish, Larry Scott, initially blamed the LHN on the failure of the 2nd PAC16 negotiations (spring 2011). It was a lie to put blame on something other than himself and he later recanted what he initially said and stated that the LHN wasnt the issue (and it wasnt) and stated further it's (LHN) something they could have worked around.

[soldierhorn]

I've always thought looking at the LHN requirements as being too touch on our coach is a cop out. In fact, I see it as just the opposite. I feel strongly our coaches have never fully realized the max potential of what that network could be to the football program. Other than the added revenues, it's been a squandered opportunity. Something I regret.

agree... it seems the Texas coaches or decision makers are timid or afraid of offending others. Other program mouthpieces are going to be offended ANYWAY and have been so since its inception. The best thing that should happen is for the program to leverage the LHN to show what they can do for NIL profiles and start targeting recruits. I think someone with head coaching success, experience and comfortable with his coaching system could simply add the LHN to his overall program package. A young P5 coach could take 6 yrs or more to get to the point of leveraging the LHN

[soldierhorn]

Meyer is to blame if you can't control Meyer.
Barry Switzer after he was fired by Oklahoma was asked in an interview what he would do different, He said, I wouldn't have recruited those guys that caused the problems.
This is the point, Tom Herman is to blame for getting fired, same with Urban if he gets fired. Who is to blame for hiring Tom Herman, to be honest, it was some powerful boosters in the Houston area that really pushed for him and they also fit the bill for his hiring and the firing of Charlie Strong. So they actually put their money where their mouth is.
You don't hire a coordinator to coach at Texas unless you also have a baby sitter to help him make every decision. Charlie Strong didn't work out because he wasn't ready for a job like this, Tom Herman has proven on several occasions he isn't ready for a job like this. There are few people with the skillset to handle a job like this. I honestly think Urban is one of those people.
Only time and opportunity will tell us if he is. Lets also remember there is only two other program that are like the Texas job and that is USC and Notre Dame. Even Bama and Ohio State don't have the issues that a coach at Texas must deal with.
Ultra rich and demanding boosters
Ultra demanding high school coaches
LHN
Politics of the state
Politics of dealing with other Texas schools
If you are a great coach and love just coaching football, I dare say Texas isn't the right job for you, once you are a head coach you do so little coaching. Your job is to basically run a major corporation. You have to create a atmosphere and adhere to it, you have to create a process and adhere to it. It should be easier at Texas but I dare say, borrowing from Spiderman, "with great power, comes great responsibility".
This is why Tom Herman is failing, this is why Charlie Strong failed, and this is why 90% of the coaches out there would also fail.

well said.

[Eastexhorn]

OU has a TV network wonder how thier fans feel about it, Fate is funny cannot get LHN but can get OU!S.

[soldierhorn]

OU has a TV network wonder how thier fans feel about it, Fate is funny cannot get LHN but can get OU!S.

I cancelled it but had the LHN on stream site for cheap (meaning $5-10/month). I got it to watch Foxnews and LHN, however, I dont watch enough tv to justify any extra cost, esp when I can watch live games anyway and again the next day or two on youtube.

[Eastexhorn]

I cancelled it but had the LHN on stream site for cheap (meaning $5-10/month). I got it to watch Foxnews and LHN, however, I dont watch enough tv to justify any extra cost, esp when I can watch live games anyway and again the next day or two on youtube.

My problem is no hispeed internet.A mile up the road price ofliving in the country.All my tv is free 25 plus channels and BUD big uglydish

[pgardn]

I hate to say it but...

the game THIS WEEK is likely a MUST WIN for TH.

We need to beat them, and beat them badly.

[soldierhorn]

My problem is no hispeed internet.A mile up the road price ofliving in the country.All my tv is free 25 plus channels and BUD big uglydish

yeah, I dont want to get into this too much on a recruiting thread. I tend to ramble on about things that are not on topic. I will say, however, that there are a lot of options nowadays; even more so now than when I cut the cord 12 yrs ago. I dont know if you know that it only takes 8-10 meg to stream high def and even some streaming sites show content in standard def, which isnt great but good enough for us oldies that grew up with a snowy black and white tv picture. If you are still on dial-up, then, yeah, you're going to have some problems. DSL is usually around 10-20 meg so you may run into some problems there as well. You have access to a BUD? Last time I checked, LHN was an option on DISHTV (2nd package up I believe). Putting that aside, there are many devices that dont require monthly service fees such as ROKU, Firebox, FireStick, and on and on and on. If you are comfortable messing around with devices, a Firebox/Firestick can be set up to watch just about anything you want with no additional cost. If you want to pay a monthly fee, you can also load a streaming or IPTV service on an android device such as the Firebox.

Check your PM for more info

[playblair]

he gone herman is losing the locker room

Jake Smith just deleted all of his Instagram pictures and bio related to Texas

[Vito Corleone]

If Tom continues beyond this year, it will set the program back another 4 or 5 years. He needs to go ASAP. I dare say the smart thing to do is fire tom, keep the coordinators and assistants and let the players and recruits know change is coming.

[Kermit]

he gone herman is losing the locker room

Maybe that dude should worry about catching the goddamn ball.

[Kermit]

Also, I’m firmly on the “hire Urban Meyer” train. I don’t give a shit about optics. Hire him and get the fuck outta way.

[IvanDrago]

Also, I’m firmly on the “hire Urban Meyer” train. I don’t give a shit about optics. Hire him and get the fuck outta way.
Same.

[bluetrumpet]

Jake uses twitter...not really on Instagram that much

[playblair]

Jake uses twitter...not really on Instagram that much
yes which makes what he did on ig more meaningful
this happened after it was announced that whittington was back

[Billybass]

Does anyone know where Tfloss went ?

[playblair]

Does anyone know where Tfloss went ?

hes pretending to be a texas insider on twitter.............. a 995 site offered him a spot on their site

[Vito Corleone]

hes pretending to be a texas insider on twitter.............. a 995 site offered him a spot on their site


The correct answer is he is living rent free in blair's dome.

[leemajors]

Anyone else see that coming when Ingram spun?

[bluetrumpet]

Ingram with the butter hands! Wtf

[bluetrumpet]

“We’ve yet to see WR Jake Smith today. He’s available on the sideline. Yet Kai Money has been in the game this whole drive at slot.” Per Andrew King...I haven’t heard his name called so far

[Kermit]

Jake would drop the pass anyway. Probably for the best.

[Cowhorns01]

Fire Tom.

[ColinB]

Why do these guys flex after giving up a first down? Lol. Chris Brown has done it 3 times today.

[Kermit]

Hopefully recruits start dropping like flies and this team loses out. That’s the only way we’re getting rid of this clown. Fuck Turtle Tom.

[bluetrumpet]

Fucking Sam should have ran for the first down...he’s playing like garbage not an experienced senior

[Monostradamus]

Same defense that got torched by K-State and ISU :lmao where all them dipshits at who said Sam was a good QB? :lmao

[leemajors]

Warp speed indeed, they’re not letting them rotate linemen. Just a great game plan

[Kermit]

Same defense that got torched by K-State and ISU :lmao where all them dipshits at who said Sam was a good QB? :lmao

Again, if you think any of this defects negatively on Sam, you’re a goddamn imbecile. This is institutional rot.

[Monostradamus]

Again, if you think any of this defects negatively on Sam, you’re a goddamn imbecile. This is institutional rot.
:lmao Sam would be trash in any system.

Felipe Franks is a godawful quarterback but I’ll take him ANY DAY over Ehlinger :lmao

[playblair]

texas 27 yards rushing total for the game midway through the 4th but Blake says texas should run the ball because the ypc stat isnt a fluke

[playblair]

Again, if you think any of this defects negatively on Sam, you’re a goddamn imbecile. This is institutional rot.
r u not watching the game or have u not paid attention to any game? sam refuses to keep the ball on the zone read the defense is teeing off on the rb because they know sam wont keep it

[Monostradamus]

r u not watching the game or have u not paid attention to any game? sam refuses to keep the ball on the zone read the defense is teeing off on the rb because they know sam wont keep it
No no no no Sam would be Kyler Tebow if not for :cry institutional rot :cry

[playblair]

aggy beating the #4 team & stole albert regis from texas today while texas looks like 2003 aggy

[playblair]

aggy just beat the #5 team texas is officially little brother

[playblair]

cant believe people actually dont want urban meyer

[Monostradamus]

Institutional rot caused that underthrow :lmao

[Neo.]

this is what Sam gets

please fire tom and start giving Thompson or Card the reigns. ehlinger is a waste of opportunity to develop for next year at this point

while sam isn't the biggest issue, his inability to ever throw an accurate deep ball makes the offense way too easy to plan for, and has hurt the team for 3 years now

[playblair]

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[Neo.]

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hahahah love it

[Monostradamus]

https://twitter.com/bon_sbnation/status/1315002379536928770?s=21

:lmao

[playblair]

it took ehlinger until the last 2 mintues of the game to finally scramble..........bruh run more plz

[Neo.]

WTH lol

[playblair]

WTH lol
ehlinger

[playblair]

bruh ehlinger see what happens when u keep the ball on the zone read........keep doing that

[playblair]

o line & special teams fitting end

[Monostradamus]

The only fitting reaction to this game is that both these teams suck.

[Neo.]

FIRE THIS FAGGOT

[Monostradamus]

Institutional rot caused that shitty throw :lmao

[td4mvp2k]

charlie strong 2.0

[Kermit]

I know you’re going to keep fucking that chicken, but that dude kept them in the game. Is he perfect? No. But he’s also not the issue. Horrible throw though.

[playblair]

I know you’re going to keep fucking that chicken, but that dude kept them in the game. Is he perfect? No. But he’s also not the issue. Horrible throw though.
he is the issue when he refuses to keep the ball on the zone read

[Trill Clinton]

playblair any word on if the boosters are preparing that $20M to buy out Herman.

[Kermit]

he is the issue when he refuses to keep the ball on the zone read

It was never an issue before this season. That’s coaching. For whatever reason, they’ve taken away his best weapon.

[playblair]

playblair (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34893) any word on if the boosters are preparing that $20M to buy out Herman.
talk has been that the dallas boosters r prepping because they want to throw it in the houston boosters face for failing with the herman hire

[Monostradamus]

Horrible throw though.
:tu

[playblair]

tom has lost the team.........this is for the eyes of texas
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/045d9d47df2a0663e0781667c60af392.jpg

[Ballin42]

Playblair, as much as people hate it, you’re right 90% of the time. What are the chances Herman makes it past Monday? And, is urban a viable option?

[GAustex]

tom has lost the team.........this is for the eyes of texas
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/045d9d47df2a0663e0781667c60af392.jpg

This is a big problem. This team is crashing down in a ball of flames. Herman prolly wants to be bought out.

[playblair]

Playblair, as much as people hate it, you’re right 90% of the time. What are the chances Herman makes it past Monday? And, is urban a viable option?
0 chance he is fired during the season barring a kansas like disaster
the dallas booster want urban if they have to settle it will be fleck or campbell with patterson being an outside option

[playblair]

2 more charlie strong players chime in following charles o & deshon

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[playblair]

Trill Clinton rumors starting to fly that the donors have the money ready & herman is going to get fired soon

[playblair]

tifwiw but eric nahlin from the texas 995 site just said herman is done
he edited his statement to 75% done

[woofwoof]

Urban

Only if we talk about leaving the big 12... which is GAWBAGE

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Kermit nailed it lol.

[Dennis the Menace]

1). Either get rid of The Longhorn Network or make big time adjustments to it. As in only use it for televising live games, replays, etc. You can’t ignore that this program went to straight SHIT ever since Longhorn Network was initiated. Bunch of 18 year old kids feeling like superstars on Day 1.

2). Back up the Brink’s Truck for Urban Meyer

You’re welcome, CDC. I’ll send you my billing information.

[woofwoof]

What happened with Jake Smith this week?

[horninok]

Depends on who you listen to regarding Smith. Reports yesterday was the hamstring flared up but earlier in the week there were reports he had changed his Instagram info and might be looking to move on. Given the nature of a hamstring injury, I'd tend to lean that way but what do I know?

Agree with Kermit but it seems like the QB run on the zone read has dropped off the table since Sam's sophomore season.

[woofwoof]

Yeah we aren't Ohio State with a Kansas state qb

[Vito Corleone]

As much as I hate that the Brocks are going to Bama, I see why they made the decision they did. Herman and Hand are both clowns and I'm 99.999% sure Hand is gone after this season, I'm thinking I'm 90% sure Herman is as well.

If Herman is done, then I'm hoping it will be Urban. He reminds me of Donald Trump. As a person he is a complete asshole, but he gets results and will take no time to turn this program around. I'm tired of having to like someone and that be a basis of hoping they get the job done. I just want someone that gets the job done, I personally don't have to like them or invite them over for dinner. I just want to see Texas win again. Most important, I want to see Texas win conference games they are supposed to, and especially win the Big 12. The time has come for Texas to give up this dream that they are Stanford or feCal and start acting like Texas.

[soldierhorn]

I dont know if this was your intent posting this picture but the real "take-away" is that Ehlinger is the ONLY player left on the field facing the band during the "Eyes".
yeah, I have been highly critical of Ehlinger over the last four years, so much so, I took a lot of flack on the old Scout board stating that Shane Buechele was the better QB (maybe not more effective but better QB skill set)... and I still stand by that. HOWEVER, if the rest of the team had his heart, his shortcomings would hardly be noticed and they would be undefeated at this point, IMO

https://i.postimg.cc/NjLKQzLG/Ehlinger-201010-Eyesof-Texas-wide-edited.jpg

[Vito Corleone]

I dont know if this was your intent posting this picture but the real "take-away" is that Ehlinger is the ONLY player left on the field facing the band during the "Eyes".
yeah, I have been highly critical of Ehlinger over the last four years, so much so, I took a lot of flack on the old Scout board stating that Shane Buechele was the better QB (maybe not more effective but better QB skill set)... and I still stand by that. HOWEVER, if the rest of the team had his heart, his shortcomings would hardly be noticed and they would be undefeated at this point, IMO

https://i.postimg.cc/NjLKQzLG/Ehlinger-201010-Eyesof-Texas-wide-edited.jpg

Wow, that takes guts, and I appreciate that. As far as I'm concerned he is the only guy on this team with guts. The rest of this team should be ashamed. When these guys are all looking for jobs after their playing days are over, I hope Exes remember this and treat them accordingly.

I have no respect for this team, outside of Sam.

[playblair]

we have another acho/boyd situation

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[soldierhorn]

Wow, that takes guts, and I appreciate that. As far as I'm concerned he is the only guy on this team with guts. The rest of this team should be ashamed. When these guys are all looking for jobs after their playing days are over, I hope Exes remember this and treat them accordingly.
I have no respect for this team, outside of Sam.

yeah, I have little respect for the rest of the team. If anyone wants to protest and be a "social warrior", then fine, quit and go do that. They're ostensibly here to work as a team playing football; not cause fractures and divisions... but, it is Herman's job to keep things together. Failure as a team and individuals are what is going to be remembered.

https://i.postimg.cc/Gh0kXY3h/Ehlinger-201010-Eyesof-Texas-edited.jpg

[soldierhorn]

we have another acho/boyd situation

yeah, this is one of the things that was so annoying watching the game. The flexing after just doing your job (making a tackle) when the runner made a first down anyway shows these players are "hey, look at me" individuals rather than a team mindset. I'm glad to see former players point that out.

[playblair]

yeah, this is one of the things that was so annoying watching the game. The flexing after just doing your job (making a tackle) when the runner made a first down anyway shows these players are "hey, look at me" individuals rather than a team mindset. I'm glad to see former players point that out.
what makes it even more turrible is chris brown is a team captain

[Juan Grande]

yeah, I have little respect for the rest of the team. If anyone wants to protest and be a "social warrior", then fine, quit and go do that. They're ostensibly here to work as a team playing football; not cause fractures and divisions... but, it is Herman's job to keep things together. Failure as a team and individuals are what is going to be remembered.

https://i.postimg.cc/Gh0kXY3h/Ehlinger-201010-Eyesof-Texas-edited.jpg

Why accept the scholarship offer and attend UT if this is the way you feel?
Wouldnt it be better for you, and everyone else, if you attended a different school?
Give someone who actually wants to be in Austin the chance

[soldierhorn]

what makes it even more turrible is chris brown is a team captain

yep, and that, again, shows Herman's piss-poor leadership. it is as simple as training a dog: DONT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR or actions you dont repeated. When you break it down to its essence, leadership is not that hard... but the will power & moral courage to back it up (enforcement) are usually the barriers people cant get to, much less past

[soldierhorn]

Why accept the scholarship offer and attend UT if this is the way you feel?
Wouldnt it be better for you, and everyone else, if you attended a different school?
Give someone who actually wants to be in Austin the chance

yeah, it comes down to PR, messaging, esprit de corps, etc, etc, etc. I think that they think they are sending or defending some sort of justice warrior message when, in fact, no one cares about that non-visual message. What people do care about is the overt anti-Longhorn message they are sending (intentional or not). The problem is that this will be something very difficult for Herman to fix, esp if he doesnt admit that it's a problem. The admin & boosters dont care until it affects the results, pocketbook, and negative PR. If they dont get 20,000 to the next game, that is a message from the fan base that they will understand (aint gonna happen but it should)

[woofwoof]

Why accept the scholarship offer and attend UT if this is the way you feel?
Wouldnt it be better for you, and everyone else, if you attended a different school?
Give someone who actually wants to be in Austin the chance

You accept the scholarship bc you want to play at a university like the University of Texas. You don't go for racial undertones. The song doesn't make the school. Just like people go to football games and not like the music they play there...

Not an argument, just a thought. Funny how the thought is on the players and not on how the song probably was made with racial undertones. Lol
Also of not, even though the black players are the only ones thought about not being there, Texas has a few more white players that aren't out there as well.


Give someone who actually wants to be in Austin the chance...
Well we are sending out scholarships, nobody WANTS to come

[soldierhorn]

You accept the scholarship bc you want to play at a university like the University of Texas. You don't go for racial undertones. The song doesn't make the school. Just like people go to football games and not like the music they play there...
Not an argument, just a thought. Funny how the thought is on the players and not on how the song probably was made with racial undertones. Lol
Also of not, even though the black players are the only ones thought about not being there, Texas has a few more white players that aren't out there as well.
Give someone who actually wants to be in Austin the chance...
Well we are sending out scholarships, nobody WANTS to come

odd that any racial undertones were 100yrs ago, if it existed at all. You know, a lot of hymns are taken from beer and pagan songs hundreds of years ago. Does it matter now? NO. People only get upset and chose to make an issue of something not relevant any longer because they want to. hhhmmm If there is something inherently wrong with a rhythm (a RHYTHM), then why wasnt it an issue decades ago? I just dont see Earl Campbell throwing a hissy-fit about a rhythm. silliness

https://i.postimg.cc/ncbkJ2MD/Earl-Campbell.jpg

[woofwoof]

I, for one, just believe the team is lost. Sam is going to miss playing that game and playing football altogether,thats probably why he's still out there. But forget the "racial undertones" HES THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. No other teammates are out there... do you think thats because the black teammates said we are going to jump you if you do the eyes? Doubt it, he's the only one out there of 84 other players that are not all black.

This isnt fully a racial issue... I'd imagine its hard to have pride when you continually keep losing to inferior teams.

[soldierhorn]

I, for one, just believe the team is lost. Sam is going to miss playing that game and playing football altogether,thats probably why he's still out there. But forget the "racial undertones" HES THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. No other teammates are out there... do you think thats because the black teammates said we are going to jump you if you do the eyes? Doubt it, he's the only one out there of 84 other players that are not all black.
This isnt fully a racial issue... I'd imagine its hard to have pride when you continually keep losing to inferior teams.

I think this would have never been an issue if Herman was a good leader and had them focused on their primary purpose for being on the team (ie, worry about things you can effect and can help you meet your goals). If players think something is more important ("some things are bigger than football" was the mantra), then ok, go do that thing you think is more important but if you are here on a football scholarship, then football should be your focus. When I received new young teenage soldiers, there was a sayin' I use to tell them during their initial counseling: Be where you are suppose to be; doing what you are suppose to be doing and you will be successful in our unit (team). It's not complicated but poor leaders make it sound complicated -- "Winning is hard." Positive pride is something some people bring to a team (unit) dynamic but it's also something that should be developed by a good leader in a new environment. I dont see positive Texas, Longhorn or team pride. I think some of it is locker room cancer (using racism as an outlet), the rest dont seem to care and that is a lack of pride that positive peer pressure should address (again, leadership).

[playblair]

players only meeting being held today not looking good for herman

[Juan Grande]

I, for one, just believe the team is lost. Sam is going to miss playing that game and playing football altogether,thats probably why he's still out there. But forget the "racial undertones" HES THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. No other teammates are out there... do you think thats because the black teammates said we are going to jump you if you do the eyes? Doubt it, he's the only one out there of 84 other players that are not all black.
This isnt fully a racial issue... I'd imagine its hard to have pride when you continually keep losing to inferior teams.

Sam mentioned the word 'splintered' twice when discussing the team in post game commentary. So they are not together on any of this

Also, supposed to have been "players-only" meeting on Sunday. That's usually not a good sign

[Juan Grande]

Should this be hidden behind spoiler coding?

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[TheMex]

players only meeting being held today not looking good for herman
Best post I've read anywhere in the last 36 hours.

[Blake]

texas 27 yards rushing total for the game midway through the 4th but Blake says texas should run the ball because the ypc stat isnt a fluke

Lol the RBs combined had 11 carries. Sam had 23. That's stupid.

[Blake]

Should this be hidden behind spoiler coding?

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She made a rabbit shadow puppet on her shirt.

Or is it a unicorn

[Juan Grande]

She made a rabbit shadow puppet on her shirt.
Or is it a unicorn

Sophisticated shadow rabbit puppetry too
Marriage material

[Rob57dal]

Hearing noises on other sites that LJ Johnson no longer considering us.

[pgardn]

Between the facts that we basically suck and TFloss not moderating anymore, this is on the level of the rest of ST.

Even the part of ST where playblair was actually soliciting for people to help him with his fetish of licking anuses.
The dude was crying out to meet people on a night that would provide him with their anus for him to get his kicks.

So there you have it.
Goodbye Recruiting forum.
An Aggie asslicker wants to run the show. Anoint him with the title so I know Im in the wrong place.
I hope the Club took down his solicitations; this is one sick puppy.

[Kermit]

Between the facts that we basically suck and TFloss not moderating anymore, this is on the level of the rest of ST.

Even the part of ST where playblair was actually soliciting for people to help him with his fetish of licking anuses.
The dude was crying out to meet people on a night that would provide him with their anus for him to get his kicks.

So there you have it.
Goodbye Recruiting forum.
An Aggie asslicker wants to run the show. Anoint him with the title so I know Im in the wrong place.
I hope the Club took down his solicitations; this is one sick puppy.

Playblair out there investing in Jiffy PB stock and hitting up the dog adoption centers.

[rjv]

I was wondering what happened to TFloss. The decline of this thread has become quite apparent.

[Juan Grande]

I was wondering what happened to TFloss. The decline of this thread has become quite apparent.

He is following and reporting on 2- and 3-star players you've never heard of

[pgardn]

I was wondering what happened to TFloss. The decline of this thread has become quite apparent.

It really takes a really good guy with some level of moderating power.
TFloss was the best on this entire site and this WAS my main reason for staying on this site.
All things come to an end. Its kind of fitting in the current climate that this should die I guess.

Playblair the with fetish for fecal encrusted orifices even has alts. playing the game.

[pgardn]

Playblair out there investing in Jiffy PB stock and hitting up the dog adoption centers.

That was some really sick stuff.
The guy has some rancid problems.

[rjv]

It really takes a really good guy with some level of moderating power.
TFloss was the best on this entire site and this WAS my main reason for staying on this site.
All things come to an end. Its kind of fitting in the current climate that this should die I guess.

Playblair the with fetish for fecal encrusted orifices even has alts. playing the game.

Yeah. Seemed to time out right. I had already had waning interest. And not because of anything the players have done. Hell, I even earned more respect for the Longhorn players this summer. It's just a different feel at the moment.

[Juan Grande]

Kenyatta Watson lands at Georgia Tech

[leemajors]

Baylor has 28 active covid cases at the moment.

[rjv]

Baylor has 28 active covid cases at the moment.

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[Eastexhorn]

Baylor has 28 active covid cases at the moment.

Margin of four players. Bye week will help.

[Rob57dal]

2021 WR commit Casey Cain is now shopping around. News is our last 2 games has him looking.

[leemajors]

2021 WR commit Casey Cain is now shopping around. News is our last 2 games has him looking.

Hope we can hold onto Bijan

[leemajors]

Margin of four players. Bye week will help.

I hope so

[Eastexhorn]

I hope so

Be nice if team was playing this week. Need a game to put OU behind them.

Also as much as I like Sam other QBS need as much time as they can get.might have helped in OU game for Sam to get a view from sidelines.

[TheMex]

2021 WR commit Casey Cain is now shopping around. News is our last 2 games has him looking.
You know when there are offensive players committed to the #2 offensive team in the country and they still don’t want to play there, something toxic must really be going on in the program.

[Rob57dal]

No top tier recruit is coming to this shit show. Herman needs to be fired yesterday.

[Rob57dal]

He's all blow u. The others are for fluff

[Eastexhorn]

He's all blow u. The others are for fluff

Softball dictates his choise.

[Eastexhorn]

2021 WR commit Casey Cain is now shopping around. News is our last 2 games has him looking.
Loseing a WR should not hurt. Unless a lotof WRS hit the portal Bowman hurt and a OL decommitment would hurt.

[Rob57dal]

Softball dictates his choise.

His gf has been committed to them since she was a freshman.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[Vito Corleone]

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2 years in a row, Ingram has dropped the ball in a critical goalline situation that cost us the ball game. I love the young man, but he needs a sports psychologist.

[texas4ever]

From IT:

When there's instability within the coaching staff, recruiting is usually one of the first things to suffer. It'll be very interesting to see how UT handles its 2021 class moving forward. A transition class might be imminent, but depending on who potentially replaces 'Hot Seat' Herman, if it comes to that, will have a major stake in how this class shakes out. Let's get a pulse on some of the more important commits and targets.


(Any commits we don't mention are likely locked in no matter who is coaching them next year, like Hayden Connor, Juan Davis, and Gunnar Helm)


Ja’tavion Sanders, DE/TE - Denton Ryan (TEXAS)


Prior to the Oklahoma loss, Sanders wasn’t even entertaining calls from other college coaches. And he's not too interested in doing so now, which is why we feel comfortable he'll stick around. But don't think OU and others aren't going to make a push. Schools smell blood in the water and Sanders is UT's top prospect in the 2021 class.


JD Coffey, S - Kennedale (TEXAS)


Oregon has been making a real push for Coffey, but the Ducks could get in a numbers squeeze thus helping the Texas cause. They picked up a safety from Utah yesterday, so it'll be interesting to see what their next move is. Right now, we think Coffey loves the Longhorns just enough and that might be enough to secure his signature on NSD.


Jamier Johnson, CB - John Muir (Pasadena, CA) (TEXAS)


The four-star from Cali isn't playing his senior season, and plans to enroll in January. UT beat out USC and Oregon for Johnson, but if there is a threat, watch Arizona State. Herm Edwards assembled one hell of a recruiting staff.


Morice Blackwell, LB - Arlington Martin (TEXAS)


The four-star from DFW has remained solid to Texas since committing on Mother's Day. If there was a threat, Arkansas is the main one to consider. The Razorbacks are going to play quality defense with Barry Odom as defensive coordinator and do surprisingly well in the Metroplex.


Casey Cain, WR - Warren Easton (New Orleans, LA) (TEXAS)


Cain is less solid since the TCU loss. There are others pushing for him, including a serious look from Mississippi State. To say Cain has been looking around would be an accurate assessment.


Jaden Alexis, WR - Monarch (Pompano Beach, FL) (TEXAS)


Alexis is the type player that will have crossover appeal. This staff or the next might want to keep the three-star speedster, but watch for a strong push from Miami. They are recruiting very well this cycle and remain in Alexis' ear, even though I feel like he's determined to leave Florida.


Michael Myslinski, C - Bishop Kenny (Jacksonville, FL) (TEXAS)


This is one committed prospect asking members of the current staff what their future looks like in Austin. We think he's still a take, being a natural center on a team without them. Even though he's got ties to Herb Hand, we think a new staff might want to hold onto the Sunshine State offensive lineman.


L.J. Johnson, RB - Cy-Fair


This one is slipping with Texas A&M surging. Texas went into the season on the verge of receiving a commitment from the best running back prospect in the state, but that momentum is all but gone.


Shemar Turner, DL - Desoto


Texas A&M was surging after Texas' early struggles in the win over Texas Tech and loss to TCU. Now, the Aggies lead is only continuing to grow after the win over Florida.


Terrence Cooks, LB - Alvin Shadow Creek


The most highly sought after linebacker in-state for 2021 has long loved the Horns and its staff. Coleman Hutzler could not have done a better job cultivating this relationship and bonding with his mother. But there's pressure to give LSU the long, hard look. He's tried to end his recruitment on a couple of occasions but was slowed in both instances. I think Texas is the call if this staff returns. If not, that's a whole other story.


If or when changes are made, we'll have a list of the top prospects that could immediately be pursued by the new staff. No reason to delve into that just yet, though.

[texas4ever]

Looks like we need to do some house cleaning on here.

[texas4ever]

So who's on the Meyer train? He sold his soul to the devil, but just might be the right guy to lead us out of this misery we've been in for over 10 years.

[bluetrumpet]

I think Meyer has the capability to lead us to the playoffs and can shore up our glaring coaching needs. Not sure who else would be a sure fire hire that fix us sooner rather than later. I definitely don’t like the guy as a person but he produces on the field which is what we need. Herman looks defeated and that’s not a coach that a team can rally around.

[texas4ever]

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[elbamba1]

So who's on the Meyer train? He sold his soul to the devil, but just might be the right guy to lead us out of this misery we've been in for over 10 years.

I am. I am sick of subpar football with teams that should be winning 10+ games a year. Meyer will hang on to the players looking to jump ship.

[ColinB]

Yes to Meyer.

[Ballin42]

Hell yes to UM

[pgardn]

No to Urban.

If he is the only guy to be able to fix us, we need to drop off the Earth anyway.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

New offer for 2021 WR Kaden Prather

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https://247sports.com/player/kaden-prather-46056740/

[texas4ever]

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[Eastexhorn]

Yes to UM no one else that will take the job can do the job.

Why for petes sake is Tom offering another WR.

[TheMex]

I would’ve told you no to UM before Strong and before Herman but I’m tired of being so mediocre. So... yes to UM.

[leemajors]

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This is going to end well.

[soldierhorn]

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I dont have any inside info but I'm SURE CDC heard LOUD & CLEAR from the BMDs; get this right or you'll see a huge drop in donations for these big projects for which you're getting credit.

[longhorncliff]

I can't believe I am saying this, but Herman has to go now. We need to right the ship as soon as possible.

[200 miles]

if you want a good boy clean program every one in athletics gets treated equal & football is not above academics or female sports like tennis go cheer for a pac12 school people in the administration with your mindset is why texas has been mediocre.........

That's why it's called COLLEGE football, academics are supposed to be top priority over athletics, not the other way around. If you want to take academics out, then cheer for an NFL team.

[Trill Clinton]

That's why it's called COLLEGE football, academics are supposed to be top priority over athletics, not the other way around. If you want to take academics out, then cheer for an NFL team.


Tell this to the NCAA

[texas4ever]

Del Conte meets with the football team last night (from IT):

It went well. It was conveyed players are expected to be on the field during the singing of The Eyes of Texas. From what we hear, the players intend to remain standing on the field together going forward. Some will sing, some won’t, but it’s an improvement over last week.


Del Conte and Tom Herman are working to reduce the temperature in the fan base, and probably donor suites, more so than within the team. Contrary to rumors, the team is not fractured.


We’ll have more in the coming days.


I feel like I should lock this thread so we can just enjoy it.

[200 miles]

Tell this to the NCAA

Touche

[Juan Grande]

https://youtu.be/Ko-bHLu-XDU

[Eastexhorn]

Juan thanks very intresting read.

[Billybass]

I don’t think CDC will hire urban, but if Herman can’t win with senior quarterback, he’s not going to win. Barring a miracle, this season is going to be a huge disappointment. Change needs to be made

[soldierhorn]

I don’t think CDC will hire urban, but if Herman can’t win with senior quarterback, he’s not going to win. Barring a miracle, this season is going to be a huge disappointment. Change needs to be made

agree 100%... but not just a senior QB; a FOUR year starting QB in Herman's system.

something to think about: I highly doubt Ehlinger is going to make it in the NFL; maybe if he hangs around for 7-8 yrs he'll get a shot. If that is anywhere close to being true, Ehlinger might as well come back again next year (if this COVID year is written off as a free year by NCAA) and rewrite the Longhorn QB record book. I wouldnt like it as a fan but that would be something I would think about if I were him.

[pgardn]

Tell this to the NCAA

The NCAA is somewhat parallel to the UIL in Texas and the Commissioner and crew in the NFL. But...
Without the total backing of the big football schools and conferences. Big schools and individuals have challenged the NCAA in various ways and have done so with success. These challenges have resulted in no real teeth for the NCAA. So the NCAA big wigs sit there and make a ton of money and do not do a whole hell of a lot more now. They do very little policing of their own policy and rely on schools; laugher... Like the schools are not going to try to take advantage in recruiting and other rules for individual benefit...

If the Power 5 and their school presidents and ADs gave the NCAA powers that could hold up in court and all the schools respected those decisions it could theoretically work. Right now the schools tattle on each other and then the press gets involved and decisions are made willy nilly to appease the bigger schools that cry hard enough and threaten, and the outcome does not necessarily benefit the game. So the NCAA has become a parasitic bureaucratic body. Thank the schools and conference alliances and boosters who ultimately want what is best for THEIR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL, but pretend like the NCAA is some sort of great arbiter and organizer when it suits them.

If the power 5 "breaks away" again, its going to have some sort of governing body to align some sort of agreement concerning rules. Good luck with that and the fat social contract with TV money and individuals making money off of social prominence. Really, can you see what kind of organizing body takes the place of the NCAA for the big 5?

So when you state "tell this to the NCAA" , it ultimately means tell this to the big football schools and conferences and boosters. They created a now pretend organizing rule making parasitic body who gets its $ and tries not to interfere with the powerful while doing so.

Lets Stop affiliating this game with schools, just do semi pro ball. That wont work because the school's name, fans and boosters are huge $ platform to work on.

Aside:
So here we are. Greed and self pride. Like Alabama or UT or Notre Dame and on... would ever get the death penalty through the NCAA now.
Its basically, what can we get away with? Urban knows that game well. In addition to being a tremendous coach. A deadly combination imo.

[Eastexhorn]

agree 100%... but not just a senior QB; a FOUR year starting QB in Herman's system.

something to think about: I highly doubt Ehlinger is going to make it in the NFL; maybe if he hangs around for 7-8 yrs he'll get a shot. If that is anywhere close to being true, Ehlinger might as well come back again next year (if this COVID year is written off as a free year by NCAA) and rewrite the Longhorn QB record book. I wouldnt like it as a fan but that would be something I would think about if I were him.

That would not be fair for the QBS in waiting Nd one of them might be better than Sam. Better passer any way.

[soldierhorn]

That would not be fair for the QBS in waiting Nd one of them might be better than Sam. Better passer any way.

I agree. I'm ready to see what Thompson, Card and JQJ can do, and even this year.

[Rob57dal]

I don’t think CDC will hire urban, but if Herman can’t win with senior quarterback, he’s not going to win. Barring a miracle, this season is going to be a huge disappointment. Change needs to be made

This season is already a huge disappointment. Just saying.

[woofwoof]

Re-watched the game, Sam did everything he could in the final 3 minutes.

I think the issue is playcalling on offense. We seem to be very "vanilla" (no racial undertones there) for too often/much during the game. Very sad bc I believe the talent is there.

Besides play calling the other main issue is the line. They don't seem powerful AT ALL. THEY don't not make a push at all. it looks like the backs are told to find holes from what the DEFENSE is giving them compared to what their OLINE gives them.

I don't think the locker room is divided, I think our coaches are. Texas is. The only continuity that I see is we lull ourselves to sleep watching our offense get "3 n outs" and our defense not stop anybody

[Eastexhorn]

I wonder if Tom s still calling most of the plays. Offense looks more like last years than what was ran at Okie St.

[horninok]

I’d be surprised if Jurcich stayed the season if Herman was still calling the plays. I think the problems are more a lack of the type of explosive players needed to run the Jurcich offense. Even Sam as much as I respect him isn’t a quick twitch athlete. Might be different with Thompson, Card, or JQJ. Just a guess.

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2022 Offer OL Neto Umeozulu (Allen, TX)

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[Rob57dal]

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He needs to be wrapped on 20 lbs of bubble wrap

[Eastexhorn]

He needs to be wrapped on 20 lbs of bubble wrap
Looks like he will never reach his potential due to injuries. Shame.

[Das Texan]

He needs to be wrapped on 20 lbs of bubble wrap

not sure who is more injury prone....

whittington or sterns.

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2022 OL George Fitzpatrick (Cherry Creek, CO)

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not sure who is more injury prone....

whittington or sterns.

sterns was never injury prone in high school but he sure has missed a lot of games due to injury since. too bad because i think it has limited his growth. after a stellar freshman year, he hasn't really jumped to that next level.