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SlickStreet
10-20-2020, 01:09 PM
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the four-OT game helped there some.. We'd still be about 4th though even if just include the four quarters.
Last two games have been low 30s for us in regulation. We could use some more explosive plays.
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 10:41 AM
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texas4ever
10-21-2020, 11:15 AM
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https://247sports.com/Player/Antonio-Harmon-46052184/
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 11:17 AM
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Texas to wear white uniforms at home for first time in 70 years
Link: https://247sports.com/college/texas/board/21/Contents/texas-to-wear-white-uniforms-at-home-for-first-time-in-70-years-153322206/
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 11:19 AM
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texas4ever
10-21-2020, 12:03 PM
Updated 24/7 State of Texas player rankings
Link: https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=TX
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 12:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA3LbbTG9Gk
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 12:17 PM
A little late posting this offer:
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https://247sports.com/Player/Kiyaunta-Goodwin-46056042/
Texas to wear white uniforms at home for first time in 70 years
Link: https://247sports.com/college/texas/board/21/Contents/texas-to-wear-white-uniforms-at-home-for-first-time-in-70-years-153322206/
i've always liked the classic, minimalist look of the UT road uniforms and prefer them way more than the traditional home uniforms.
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 12:22 PM
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texas4ever
10-21-2020, 01:12 PM
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leemajors
10-21-2020, 01:38 PM
thanks for the posts texas4ever
pgardn
10-21-2020, 03:37 PM
thanks for the posts texas4ever (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42802)
seconded
texas4ever
10-21-2020, 05:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z1Tn_57m04
leemajors
10-22-2020, 04:42 AM
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/21/texas-longhorn-band-eyes-texas-baylor/
The Longhorn Band will not play “The Eyes of Texas” at this Saturday’s football game between the University of Texas at Austin and Baylor University after a survey of members revealed several students are unwilling to play the traditional alma mater song, according to The Daily Texan.
Eastexhorn
10-22-2020, 10:11 AM
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/21/texas-longhorn-band-eyes-texas-baylor/
The band has not played at any game this year. Recording is what Sam stood for. Just more stiring of the pot IMO.
leemajors
10-22-2020, 10:17 AM
The band has not played at any game this year. Recording is what Sam stood for. Just more stiring of the pot IMO.
I thought they were supposed to this weekend, but yeah maybe
Juan Grande
10-22-2020, 10:25 AM
https://twitter.com/BDavisAAS/status/1319079370691141637
with the 2020 season having been impacted so significantly by COVID, i would think the real gauge for how the "eyes of texas" controversy plays out will be the 2021 season. it's just easier to keep the band out in the current climate. even the aggie band has had minimal involvement at the games. hell, even high school bands are at half capacity.
Juan Grande
10-23-2020, 07:01 AM
https://twitter.com/mikeroach247/status/1319457764725444608
texas4ever
10-23-2020, 10:02 AM
New offer for 2023 WR Johntay Cook II (DeSoto)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Johntay-Cook-II-46086827/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/13212276/Johntay-Cook-II
texas4ever
10-23-2020, 10:18 AM
QB commit Quinn Ewers Highlights:
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pgardn
10-23-2020, 11:09 AM
Good Lord we need him to stay on board.
Eastexhorn
10-23-2020, 11:49 AM
Another reason forUrban
Vito Corleone
10-23-2020, 01:49 PM
I can't remember the last QB I've seen in high school that threw the ball so well. He is just a junior...
Not even the film on Chris Simms looked as good. This kid makes a 60 yard pass look effortless.
pgardn
10-23-2020, 03:13 PM
Another reason forUrban
F that.
Eastexhorn
10-23-2020, 09:09 PM
I can't remember the last QB I've seen in high school that threw the ball so well. He is just a junior...
Not even the film on Chris Simms looked as good. This kid makes a 60 yard pass look effortless.
Maybe Dandy Don but hard to remember that sr back.
Eastexhorn
10-23-2020, 09:11 PM
F that.
You donot think Urban would keep Ewers commited?
Kermit
10-24-2020, 07:07 AM
You donot think Urban would keep Ewers commited?
Of course he would. Dude just doesn’t want Urb to coach Texas. And that’s fair.
Eastexhorn
10-24-2020, 08:27 AM
Of course he would. Dude just doesn’t want Urb to coach Texas. And that’s fair.
Thanks for clarification Alles clar.
pgardn
10-24-2020, 09:23 AM
Of course he would. Dude just doesn’t want Urb to coach Texas. And that’s fair.
after I have ragged Aggie friends endlessly about their more than questionable coaching choices in order to win. Even if he comes in for just two years and sets us straight like he did at Ohio State I would become a gigantic hypocrite.
it’s also interesting to see how much torture I can take with these completely inconsistent football teams. One of the most difficult things as a fan is to root for a team that has no excuses for doing well and performs poorly.
there Has to be another coach besides this lying cheater
and I believe at the heart of it is his desire for an in your face to Tom Herman. it’s never like I was a huge Herman fan especially after he kept that kid from Oklahoma who was caught bringing drugs into his high school
urban is on a different level of bad
texas4ever
10-24-2020, 09:57 AM
Underrated!
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texas4ever
10-24-2020, 10:00 AM
Nice hit!
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texas4ever
10-24-2020, 10:09 AM
Roach over at 24/7 says Texas is still in the lead for LB Terrence Cooks at the moment. LB coach Hutzler has done a really good job with this recruitment.
texas4ever
10-24-2020, 10:14 AM
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texas4ever
10-24-2020, 10:18 AM
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Vito Corleone
10-24-2020, 10:39 AM
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This would be the nail in the coffin for Tom, no way a 1st year head coach with inferior recruiting talent should beat Texas this year.
Go Baylor, end our misery.
IvanDrago
10-24-2020, 12:25 PM
after I have ragged Aggie friends endlessly about their more than questionable coaching choices in order to win. Even if he comes in for just two years and sets us straight like he did at Ohio State I would become a gigantic hypocrite.
it’s also interesting to see how much torture I can take with these completely inconsistent football teams. One of the most difficult things as a fan is to root for a team that has no excuses for doing well and performs poorly.
there Has to be another coach besides this lying cheater
and I believe at the heart of it is his desire for an in your face to Tom Herman. it’s never like I was a huge Herman fan especially after he kept that kid from Oklahoma who was caught bringing drugs into his high school
urban is on a different level of bad
who would be your choice to replace Herman?
Vito Corleone
10-24-2020, 01:54 PM
Outside of Urban, I can't think of another coach available with the skins to take over the job and demand the respect of both players and Boosters. As has been proven by our last 2 hires, this job isn't for everyone.
pgardn
10-24-2020, 01:54 PM
who would be your choice to replace Herman?you tell meI don’t keep close enough tabs on the up and coming.
ATM took SherrillJackie Fn Sherrill ... this guy was every bit as bad as Switzer.
preferably a younger coach who would last as long as Darrell Royal
good luck for me I guess
pgardn
10-24-2020, 02:04 PM
And if possible it would be nice if no one would quote playblair.
I have him on ignore, the only poster I do this with.
when he starts a thread with solicitations for looking for people who actually want their want their anuses licked... and he wants to do the licking. I don’t get how you can even keep him on this board honestly.
don’t quote the pervert .... please.
just on this thread, I would ask you please don’t quote
Kermit
10-24-2020, 02:04 PM
you tell me
I don’t keep close enough tabs
ATM took Sherrill
Jackie Fn Sherrill ... this guy was every bit as bad as Switzer.
Urban isn’t ideal, but we need to stop this moral brigade. The program has to win, otherwise what the fuck are we doing here? He’s an excellent recruiter and an even better coach. If he wants to come here, fucking hire him already. Who cares if it’s just to piss in Tom’s mouth? Fuck Tom Herman.
pgardn
10-24-2020, 02:11 PM
Urban isn’t ideal, but we need to stop this moral brigade. The program has to win, otherwise what the fuck are we doing here? He’s an excellent recruiter and an even better coach. If he wants to come here, fucking hire him already. Who cares if it’s just to piss in Tom’s mouth? Fuck Tom Herman.
no you see that’s part of it for me.
Win at any cost won’t fly.
my bad, that’s just the way it is.
and I will start and finish the moral brigade. I won’t take a Barry sweatshirt or a Cheryl
I probably should not be watching the sport anymore.
Kermit
10-24-2020, 02:19 PM
no you see that’s part of it for me.
Win at any cost won’t fly.
my bad, that’s just the way it is.
and I will start and finish the moral brigade. I won’t take a Barry sweatshirt or a Cheryl
I probably should not be watching the sport anymore.
But you’re fucking a chicken that Texas is already in bed with. Don’t think for a second that we didn’t habitually cross the line. And what has it gotten us? At least hire a coach who can actually coach, instead of these mid-major washouts. It’s just weird that Urban is where you cross the line.
pgardn
10-24-2020, 03:40 PM
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But you’re fucking a chicken that Texas is already in bed with. Don’t think for a second that we didn’t habitually cross the line. And what has it gotten us? At least hire a coach who can actually coach, instead of these mid-major washouts. It’s just weird that Urban is where you cross the line.
I will give you ONE thing only one.
Urban Meyer “helping” Aaron Hernandez (using the Pouncey brothers) to save a guy known to be incredibly violent BEFORE he even had killed anyone (maybe?) He used the Pouncey brothers as a come to Jesus cure and then when that did not work use various means to get Hernandez out of trouble after beating the shit out of various people.
Read about just this one kid who he tried to save and then tried to hide.
Then when you are familiar with this I will give you the rest of the list with this same fckn weasel BS help him be Christian Bs. And then lie to authorities to take care of it in house with the lord.
Why do I draw the line at Meyer... holy shit... same lying come to Jesus keep the law away.
There IS more.
pgardn
10-24-2020, 04:22 PM
So do we cross this line?
This is why I was insistent on finding out about J. Moore and his little gun problem but found absolutely nothing, on this board anyway.
I was wondering if Tom Herman was also falling into "I can help this kid out" like Hernandez (was helped out so well by Jesus and then lying to the law), well enough to kill other(s) and himself.
Guys just think this is about recruiting... lord... Its also about keeping kids on the field or team. Have we not had enough of this crap after Art Briles?
Apparently not. People keep trying to hire him UNTIL they get a look at history. But Im sure Briles is reformed just like Urban.
Good dudes now.
Vito Corleone
10-24-2020, 06:33 PM
So do we cross this line?
This is why I was insistent on finding out about J. Moore and his little gun problem but found absolutely nothing, on this board anyway.
I was wondering if Tom Herman was also falling into "I can help this kid out" like Hernandez (was helped out so well by Jesus and then lying to the law), well enough to kill other(s) and himself.
Guys just think this is about recruiting... lord... Its also about keeping kids on the field or team. Have we not had enough of this crap after Art Briles?
Apparently not. People keep trying to hire him UNTIL they get a look at history. But Im sure Briles is reformed just like Urban.
Good dudes now.
I'm not sure what to think of the Aaron Hernandez thing. Is there anyone here who would say no to hiring Bill Belicheck? He was Aaron Hernandez's coach when he killed his brother-in-law. I'm not saying Urban didn't make some bad decisions, and I'm one that thinks Urban is a bad guy who is a win at all costs person. There are lots of reasons to not want Urban at Texas even if it didn't have anything to do with Aaron Hernandez. I'm just saying, unless we catch lightning in a bottle, there isn't a guy out there we can hire who we know can turn this program around. I've come to the realization we aren't going to money whip anyone like Dabo, Saban, or Day. No one with credibility wants to come to this dumpster fire. We make a deal with the devil or roll the dice. Sad but true.
Eastexhorn
10-24-2020, 06:55 PM
So do we cross this line?
This is why I was insistent on finding out about J. Moore and his little gun problem but found absolutely nothing, on this board anyway.
I was wondering if Tom Herman was also falling into "I can help this kid out" like Hernandez (was helped out so well by Jesus and then lying to the law), well enough to kill other(s) and himself.
Guys just think this is about recruiting... lord... Its also about keeping kids on the field or team. Have we not had enough of this crap after Art Briles?
Apparently not. People keep trying to hire him UNTIL they get a look at history. But Im sure Briles is reformed just like Urban.
Good dudes now.
Art is live and doing well up the road about 60+ miles.
woofwoof
10-24-2020, 07:25 PM
"Let he without sin, cast the first stone"
Truly, it is hard to find anybody that SOMEBODY doesn't have something "questionable" in their past. Urban brings a winning culture. If you don't have the AD to make sure the coaches stay in line, your administration is messed up.
soldierhorn
10-24-2020, 10:32 PM
I will give you ONE thing only one.
Urban Meyer “helping” Aaron Hernandez (using the Pouncey brothers) to save a guy known to be incredibly violent BEFORE he even had killed anyone (maybe?) He used the Pouncey brothers as a come to Jesus cure and then when that did not work use various means to get Hernandez out of trouble after beating the shit out of various people.
Read about just this one kid who he tried to save and then tried to hide.
Then when you are familiar with this I will give you the rest of the list with this same fckn weasel BS help him be Christian Bs. And then lie to authorities to take care of it in house with the lord.
Why do I draw the line at Meyer... holy shit... same lying come to Jesus keep the law away.
There IS more.
Let me ask a couple of questions that I dont even have the answer for: Do D1 head football coaches get any mulligans with regards to screwing up with players? Are head coaches allowed to make mistakes and grow as more effective head coaches?
I'm not an urban meyer fan and never have been... but... he's a winner with supposedly a medical condition who had two questionable stints as a head coach. If his players were uncontrollable at both places, then it would be a definite NO for me. however, in one place (UF) it was player control and in the other place (OSU) it was assistant coach control. In neither case was it systemic cheating that was the problem (ie, Briles, Switzer, Sherrill, etc). Meyer's OSU teams ddint seem to have the player control issues he had at UF. Did he learn as a coach? It would seem so. At OSU, however, he had an out of control assistant coach. Do I think that will happen again, at the next program? no, I dont. I could be wrong but I think he wants to go out as one of the best coaches in college football history as a proven winner with a clean slate, so in that regard I'm for bringing him in to right the ship
pgardn
10-25-2020, 12:24 AM
Refresher:
Ohio State. We have an assistant coach who beats his wife regularly. Gets in trouble with the police. Urban takes care of thiswith his wife with the SAME IN HOUSE COUNSELING that worked on Hernandez. The coach is a nut and then basically keeps up his horrible behavior till it all caves in. Urban the savior of course knows nothing about it but then he suddenly remembers when OSU does an investigation. Meyer lies yet again about his involvement until he is finally forced to fess up with more investigation. He lies DIRECTLY on TV to the Big 10x OSU keeps him on and is lambasted by the Big 10 and people on this board when Tom Herman (no angel) is mentioned.
But Urban again quits under pressure (yeah I would feel a bit guilty) because of horrible head aches. Now Urban is good again because he is a good analyst on TV.
Does anyone here remember the remarks people from THIS board made about OSU and Meyer. Or is everyone new here now that TFloss has left?
No behavior pattern here, nothing to see, he is a great coach.
Do we need more? There is more. Will it all be discussed by our vetting committee? Should be interesting. This is like a frkkn carnival. Will the UT Public relations people clean all this up with what, Lysol?
I have no doubt we will improve under him. He is as good as Dabo or Sabin. He will March with the players instead of kissing them.
Punt
pgardn
10-25-2020, 12:30 AM
Art is live and doing well up the road about 60+ miles.
Great.
Great guy that Art.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 12:33 AM
"Let he without sin, cast the first stone"
Truly, it is hard to find anybody that SOMEBODY doesn't have something "questionable" in their past. Urban brings a winning culture. If you don't have the AD to make sure the coaches stay in line, your administration is messed up.
yeah we are all sinners.
so let’s not talk about it.
We will do better in the future.
Yeah. Messed up admin keeping coaches in line. See Ohio State.
Hell, yes hire him! OSU rocks.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 01:09 AM
So those of you who are not Urban Meyer fans, give me some reasons why you are not a fan (other than the two systematic abuses of power by keeping problems in house and taken care of by coach and counselor Meyer. When it looks like they were clearly law and order problems that needed more than a football coach.)
There is more. I know there is more.
What do you guys have a problem with?
Those that just want to win, no need to answer.
Kermit
10-25-2020, 09:03 AM
Those that just want to win...I thought that was the object. He’s not the fucking anti-Christ, but I’m enjoying this and will enjoy the subsequent meltdown if he’s hired.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 09:32 AM
Those that just want to win...I thought that was the object. He’s not the fucking anti-Christ, but I’m enjoying this and will enjoy the subsequent meltdown if he’s hired.
What would it matter if he was the an anti Christ.
Your position is clear.
Honestly you are way ahead on the leader of young men BS. The goal on this level was always the same as pro football. Just win baby. With the added value of a “Christian education”
by a guy named after a Pope.
This hopefully spreads completely to the HS level for good preparation.
Interesting Aside: I think one of the popes named Urban told Galileo to stfu and threw him in “solitary”
Im guessing there will be zero meltdowns if he is hired, because he knows how to win as long as the school, police, boosters stay out of his way,
Kermit
10-25-2020, 09:39 AM
What would it matter if he was the an anti Christ.
Your position is clear.
Honestly you are way ahead on the leader of young men BS. The goal on this level was always the same as pro football. Just win baby. With the added value of a “Christian” education by a guy named after a Pope.
This hopefully spreads completely to the HS level for good preparation.
And there is really no need to associate sport with an educational institution anymore imo.
Hopefully this is meltdown worthy.
I love it, this certain thought process that flows through the minds of the holy. The line of thought that Texas isn’t complicit in the sins of college football and college sports in general. We are, we just don’t have the skins on the wall. All we have is an endless loop of the 2006 Rose Bowl continuously playing on our barren cable network.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 09:54 AM
I love it, this certain thought process that flows through the minds of the holy. The line of thought that Texas isn’t complicit in the sins of college football and college sports in general. We are, we just don’t have the skins on the wall. All we have is an endless loop of the 2006 Rose Bowl continuously playing on our barren cable network.
Minds of the holy...
Its oh so holy to not want to have to deal with a coach who tries to save players and gets them get out of jail free cards for a couple of years of their lives.
You go Art Briles.
Seriously, this guy was a damn good coach, let’s get him as an assistant.
And the BS of UT complicity with the implications it’s on the level of Baylor or Florida under Meyer. No difference here, we are all guilty.
Kermit
10-25-2020, 10:35 AM
Minds of the holy...
Its oh so holy to not want to have to deal with a coach who tries to save players and gets them get out of jail free cards for a couple of years of their lives.
You go Art Briles.
Seriously, this guy was a damn good coach, let’s get him as an assistant.
And the BS of UT complicity with the implications it’s on the level of Baylor or Florida under Meyer. No difference here, we are all guilty.
So now we’re comparing Art Briles to Urban Meyer. By the way, if we’re going to give Urban shit for Zach Smith, Casey Horny is still on our staff. Tom was best friends with the dude. But please, I’m enjoying your sermon. Please continue.
Eastexhorn
10-25-2020, 11:50 AM
I have no say in who is hired in case Tom goes.If I did it would be Urban orkeep Tom and save the money.
soldierhorn
10-25-2020, 12:57 PM
I have no say in who is hired in case Tom goes.If I did it would be Urban orkeep Tom and save the money.
That's probably a prudent position to take.
I think Herman needs to be replaced not only due to poor on-field performance during a season everyone was pointing to for success (2020 is going to be our year!) but also for poor off season leadership which has divided the team and the fan base. The problem is that I dont see any promising up and coming coach or available experienced coach that can unify the team, boosters and fan base other than Meyer. If it is not Meyer, then I would like to see some legit suggestions who it should be.
The unfortunate thing is that we are in a CFB age where there is so much money at stake (eg, salaries, invested in capital improvements, and networks, etc) that big programs cant wait 10, 15 or 20 years for a coach to grow and mature into his potential. I believe Herman will be a very good HC... some day... but the climate nowadays just doesnt lend itself to waiting for that to happen if it takes more than 3-6 yrs, Part of the lack of patience to wait on Herman is Herman's fault. Not unlike Akers & Mackovic, arrogance will be tolerated as long as the team is collecting hardware but arrogance (towards administration, boosters & fan base) will not be tolerated with multiple, successive, below expectation seasons. In Mackovic's case, it only took ONE below expectation season ('97) to get fired after three conference championships in a row - that is how much he was disliked - and I believe Herman is inching closer to Mackovic level of disfavor among admin & boosters.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 01:12 PM
So now we’re comparing Art Briles to Urban Meyer. By the way, if we’re going to give Urban shit for Zach Smith, Casey Horny is still on our staff. Tom was best friends with the dude. But please, I’m enjoying your sermon. Please continue.
Ok then.
Please give me the UT coach who gave the sermon to an "Aaron Hernandez" after he beat the shit out of multiple people in Florida and was arrested under Urban but treated with bible verse "counseling". Was caught with weapons (which is why I asked about how did Moore re enter our team and there was no answer) and failed multiple drug tests under Urban. He protected a criminal that might have killed while at Florida, did kill as found by a court of law. And then killed himself. Urban bible counseled him so he was good to go as a young man. Was an actual psychiatrist EVER involved when he was a teen with Urban?
The above is off the charts bad imo. But Art Briles is worse... good to know.
Did Casey Horny beat his wife regularly and Tom knows/knew this and still keep him attempting to counsel him with bible verses when he should have been in a jail or some psychiatric ward getting help?
Ahh its basically all on the same level, nothing to see here.
Just win baby...
1st degree murder.... misdemeanor marijuana charge, same bad.
Man this is such weak shit moralizing, my bad.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 01:20 PM
That's probably a prudent position to take.
I think Herman needs to be replaced not only due to poor on-field performance during a season everyone was pointing to for success (2020 is going to be our year!) but also for poor off season leadership which has divided the team and the fan base. The problem is that I dont see any promising up and coming coach or available experienced coach that can unify the team, boosters and fan base other than Meyer. If it is not Meyer, then I would like to see some legit suggestions who it should be.
The unfortunate thing is that we are in a CFB age where there is so much money at stake (eg, salaries, invested in capital improvements, and networks, etc) that big programs cant wait 10, 15 or 20 years for a coach to grow and mature into his potential. I believe Herman will be a very good HC... some day... but the climate nowadays just doesnt lend itself to waiting for that to happen if it takes more than 3-6 yrs, Part of the lack of patience to wait on Herman is Herman's fault. Not unlike Akers & Mackovic, arrogance will be tolerated as long as the team is collecting hardware but arrogance (towards administration, boosters & fan base) will not be tolerated with multiple, successive, below expectation seasons. In Mackovic's case, it only took ONE below expectation season ('97) to get fired after three conference championships in a row - that is how much he was disliked - and I believe Herman is inching closer to Mackovic level of disfavor among admin & boosters.
Its getting clearer the fake nice guy stuff has not gone over well with players. The fawning on Sam seems to be part of it and seems to have put Sam in a tough position. And I still dont know how Josh Moore got back on the team. Does anyone know how he got off because it seemed pretty damn bad.
Vito Corleone
10-25-2020, 04:17 PM
That's probably a prudent position to take.
I think Herman needs to be replaced not only due to poor on-field performance during a season everyone was pointing to for success (2020 is going to be our year!) but also for poor off season leadership which has divided the team and the fan base. The problem is that I dont see any promising up and coming coach or available experienced coach that can unify the team, boosters and fan base other than Meyer. If it is not Meyer, then I would like to see some legit suggestions who it should be.
The unfortunate thing is that we are in a CFB age where there is so much money at stake (eg, salaries, invested in capital improvements, and networks, etc) that big programs cant wait 10, 15 or 20 years for a coach to grow and mature into his potential. I believe Herman will be a very good HC... some day... but the climate nowadays just doesnt lend itself to waiting for that to happen if it takes more than 3-6 yrs, Part of the lack of patience to wait on Herman is Herman's fault. Not unlike Akers & Mackovic, arrogance will be tolerated as long as the team is collecting hardware but arrogance (towards administration, boosters & fan base) will not be tolerated with multiple, successive, below expectation seasons. In Mackovic's case, it only took ONE below expectation season ('97) to get fired after three conference championships in a row - that is how much he was disliked - and I believe Herman is inching closer to Mackovic level of disfavor among admin & boosters.
I wish I had an alternative to Urban. I know what the program needs, but it's a deal with the devil. Texas needs someone like Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, or Dabo Sweeney. Only one is available. No one else out there brings to the table what this program needs. Strong leadership, Championship Pedigree, and proven development. At this point, if Urban isn't the answer, then might as well stick with Herman and wait til his buyout is a little better.
However, the longer we wait, the worse things are going to get with recruiting. Lets face it, we are in deep poop especially along the oline. The only thing keeping us afloat is the name Texas.
Something else to keep in mind, in this time of hyper sensitivity to racial issues, Texas fired Charlie Strong after 3 seasons for producing the same level of crap that Herman is producing. If Texas doesn't stay consistent in their firing practice, it's going to look really bad for the University.
Finally and most important, Tom is a clown on the level of Jerry Glanville and should be axed for all the stupid crap he has pulled from going after another coach, to mocking opposing players, to flipping off the camera on recruiting day. Let him grow up on someone else's dime. This team needs leadership, not gimmicks.
At this point, I'd take Urban.
bluebellmaniac
10-25-2020, 04:25 PM
Minds of the holy...
Its oh so holy to not want to have to deal with a coach who tries to save players and gets them get out of jail free cards for a couple of years of their lives.
You go Art Briles.
Seriously, this guy was a damn good coach, let’s get him as an assistant.
And the BS of UT complicity with the implications it’s on the level of Baylor or Florida under Meyer. No difference here, we are all guilty.
Now we're talking. Urban head coach, Briles as Assistant under him. Do it.
texas4ever
10-25-2020, 05:58 PM
Three things from the game vs. Baylor-
1.) Texas' OL is not very good and the struggles will only amplify with better teams we play.
2.) The defense has improved from day 1, but the lack of pass rush is and will be a concern moving forward.
3.) This is a 6-4 team at best and having UM available without a buyout and a few assistant coaches of his on the staff already makes it an easy decision (it should be anyways).
Vito Corleone
10-25-2020, 06:47 PM
Three things from the game vs. Baylor-
1.) Texas' OL is not very good and the struggles will only amplify with better teams we play.
2.) The defense has improved from day 1, but the lack of pass rush is and will be a concern moving forward.
3.) This is a 6-4 team at best and having UM available without a buyout and a few assistant coaches of his on the staff already makes it an easy decision (it should be anyways).
The defense has played one good game and one acceptable game. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, this is not a good defense yet. I still think they can be, I know they have the talent to be great, but no way we will tell until they prove they can beat bad teams holding them under 10 pts or good teams under 20. That is exactly what should be happening.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 06:51 PM
Now we're talking. Urban head coach, Briles as Assistant under him. Do it.
Urban Renewal of Austin.
pgardn
10-25-2020, 06:53 PM
Three things from the game vs. Baylor-
1.) Texas' OL is not very good and the struggles will only amplify with better teams we play.
2.) The defense has improved from day 1, but the lack of pass rush is and will be a concern moving forward.
3.) This is a 6-4 team at best and having UM available without a buyout and a few assistant coaches of his on the staff already makes it an easy decision (it should be anyways).
And thats against a line that had hardly practiced together and was generally considered deficient.
texas4ever
10-25-2020, 08:22 PM
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Eastexhorn
10-25-2020, 08:41 PM
Baylor had two OL starters out for the game.
B. Vaughn setting out and not playing? Maybe first Eyes quiter.
Vito Corleone
10-26-2020, 01:36 AM
Sorry blair, you are wrong.
As an Alumni I think he has more right than you or I do. He also has more right to not want Urban coaching since it will reflect on his alumni degree if Urban screws up again.
Juan Grande
10-26-2020, 08:19 AM
...1.) Texas' OL is not very good and the struggles will only amplify with better teams we play. ....
How many years in a row we been saying that?
soldierhorn
10-26-2020, 09:24 AM
How many years in a row we been saying that?
14
soldierhorn
10-26-2020, 10:48 AM
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man, aint that the truth!
Vito Corleone
10-26-2020, 10:50 AM
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man, aint that the truth!
Did something change I haven't heard about?
texas4ever
10-26-2020, 12:56 PM
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texas4ever
10-26-2020, 01:00 PM
Did something change I haven't heard about?
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elbamba1
10-26-2020, 01:27 PM
https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2020/10/25/21533624/nsfw-bonus-meltdown-third-saturday-special-edition
If I am not mistaken, TFloss used to provide this weekly updated for an Alabama community. NSFW but its pretty funny. We need him back. I do want to thank Texas4ever for doing God's work.
elbamba1
10-26-2020, 01:29 PM
https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2020/10/12/21512900/nsfw-its-meltdown-time-week-3
texas4ever
10-26-2020, 02:50 PM
TE Commit Gunnar Helm
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texas4ever
10-26-2020, 02:53 PM
2021 Shadow Creek LB Terrence Cooks is looking at a November 14th decision day. Texas is still squarely in the mix.
GAustex
10-26-2020, 03:37 PM
Sam prolly be governor some day for standing up for Texas last week.
pgardn
10-26-2020, 06:16 PM
ethics and college football have grown farther apart but they've never really been in close proximity to one another. the number of transgressions that universities cover up has to be enormous but the latest trend entails a growing awareness, from the athletes themselves, that they are just a means to an end. add to this, the growing awareness, from Black players, that a good percentage of their fan base regards them as minstrels and you have one giant pot of hypocrisy. urban just represents the summit of all that is wrong.
we also have the enabler‘s that let Jerry Sandusky and various trainers have their jollies.
In the end in they all wanted to win.
soldierhorn
10-26-2020, 06:39 PM
we also have the enabler‘s that let Jerry Sandusky and various trainers have their jollies.
In the end in they all wanted to win.
UT's "Freak Nasty" wanted to win too
texas4ever
10-26-2020, 07:14 PM
https://youtu.be/sqyiflT4440
pgardn
10-26-2020, 07:33 PM
UT's "Freak Nasty" wanted to win too
He did.
He did not have the shield of being the team doctor thankfully.
And he did a pretty good of lying but got the axe
Went after a female assistant instead of a little kid as well. Seems to happen quite a bit in the workplace but females appear to be speaking out a bit more now
Also the LHN asked Mack directly about it on camera in a bit of a surprise for Grandpa Mack which was cool.
pgardn
10-26-2020, 07:51 PM
He did.
He did not have the shield of being the team doctor thankfully.
And he did a pretty good of lying but got the axe
Went after a female assistant instead of a little kid as well. Seems to happen quite a bit in the workplace but females appear to be speaking out a bit more now
Also the LHN asked Mack directly about it on camera in a bit of a surprise for Grandpa Mack which was cool.
I was involved in a little incident where a professor was using unsavory comments towards females who came in for help during office hours. I was a TA. The old lech was thankfully removed. Told a few girls how they could make better grades. He did not realize I was in the lab.
texas4ever
10-27-2020, 07:08 AM
Texas offers 2021 WR/TE Jack Bech (Lafayette, LA)
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https://247sports.com/player/jack-bech-46058716/
texas4ever
10-27-2020, 07:10 AM
Texas is first to offer 2023 DE Dylan Spencer (Katy Taylor)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Dylan-Spencer-46102731/
texas4ever
10-27-2020, 07:11 AM
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texas4ever
10-27-2020, 11:11 AM
Joseph Ossai expected to play against Oklahoma State (24/7)
https://247sports.com/college/texas/board/21/Contents/joseph-ossai-expected-to-play-against-oklahoma-state-153687260/
we also have the enabler‘s that let Jerry Sandusky and various trainers have their jollies.
In the end in they all wanted to win.
exactly. one has to wonder, as well, as to how many date rapes have been covered up. many aggies were willing to look the other way as to how jimbo fisher was willing to look the other way when winston was accused of rape (FSU eventually settled). as you pointed out though, it's al about winning.
texas4ever
10-27-2020, 02:10 PM
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10-27-2020, 02:11 PM
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Billybass
10-27-2020, 05:23 PM
Did we get a new moderator ? Good !
Eastexhorn
10-28-2020, 10:11 AM
Recruiting Herman and Hand offering 2 star OL from tim buc to and Alabama 100% on two five stars and you say recruiting is worse.
so, just to be clear; is TFloss gone permanently?
leemajors
10-28-2020, 12:57 PM
so, just to be clear; is TFloss gone permanently?
Appears so, unfortunately. Was nice while it lasted!
Appears so, unfortunately. Was nice while it lasted!
thanks, yeah, that is too bad; this was one of the better threads on this site and it appears that the lunatics are running the asylum now.
elbamba1
10-28-2020, 01:39 PM
thanks, yeah, that is too bad; this was one of the better threads on this site and it appears that the lunatics are running the asylum now.
It would have been nice to get a farewell just because he did such an awesome job. I would pay for his effort so I guess I am opening an account on Horns 247.
elbamba1
10-28-2020, 01:44 PM
Yup. He works for Horns 247 and is getting paid for what he did here for free for so many years. Follow him on twitter for the latest on texas recruiting.
Do you have his info so I can follow?
leemajors
10-28-2020, 01:48 PM
Do you have his info so I can follow?
https://twitter.com/tfloss32?lang=en
thanks for the info, everyone. i guess 2020 was as a good a year as any for him to finally move on.
Billybass
10-28-2020, 02:32 PM
Mods are still here. A discussion about Sam deserting the team has been deleted in the past week. It was good riddance as far as I’m concerned. Political discussions on a recruiting board are poison
texas4ever
10-28-2020, 06:27 PM
Whoever wants to get political go start another thread. Keep topics to recruiting and Texas sports, please! Thank you,
texas4ever
10-28-2020, 06:28 PM
From IT:
The Texas staff continues to evaluate wide receiver, cornerback and offensive line.
IT was the first to identify Vanderbilt verbal Jack Bech and Ole Miss verbal Drew Donley as wide receiver names to get familiar with. Now that the Longhorns have offered the 6-foot-2, 205-pound Bech and a student visit is on tap for his family this weekend, it’s time to look at three more prospects that have the attention of the Texas staff at positions of need mid-way through the 2020 season.
At defensive back, two names to know.
Lake Ridge CB Marvin Covington has become of the state's fastest senior risers thanks to his senior tape. The 5-foot-11, 180-pounder with 10.8 100-meter speed has picked up offers from Miami and Houston in the last day. The Longhorn coaching staff has watched Covington and are legitimately interested.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11597679/Marvin-Covington
Klein Forest running back/playmaker Ahmonte Watkins has been on the Longhorns' radar, and continues to be. The key in Watkins recruitment is figuring out what position he wants to play at the next level. At a solidly built 5-foot-11, 180-pounds with 10.55 100-meter speed that shows up on senior video, Watkins has possibilities on both sides of the ball. To this point, his three favorites of Texas Tech, Texas A&M and Mississippi State are all recruiting him as a running back with some chatter about wide receiver. Watkins told IT Tuesday when we stopped by the school that he is open to being recruited as as an athlete with an offensive preference. He’s open to playing defensive back if running back doesn’t work out at the next level.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9951590/Ahmonte-Watkins
On the offensive line, some of the most impressive senior video comes from Parish Episcopal offensive tackle and Holy Cross verbal Austin Uke. The 6-foot-4, 265-pounder with a quick first and second step, initial contact natural strength, physicality and agility was offered by SMU on Tuesday to get the recruiting party started. Uke, who played at Dallas Jesuit in 2019, will pick up Power 5 offers as the senior tape is distributed. Big bodies with long arms that move like Uke won’t choose between Holy Cross and SMU in December. Uke is being evaluated by the Texas staff.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/12646169/Austin-Uke
*Additional note*
Washington State verbal and Tomball Memorial WR Joseph Manjack is receiving a senior season look from the Longhorns as well. USC could be the next Power 5 program to offer the 6-foot-3, 200-pound playmaker with ++ physicality. Manjack could be evaluated as an ATH by Power 5 programs.
texas4ever
10-28-2020, 06:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RilTyjSYUE
texas4ever
10-28-2020, 06:31 PM
Texas offered on Monday
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texas4ever
10-28-2020, 06:37 PM
Per IT, they feel that QB Quinn Ewers will NOT stay committed to Texas. I would suspect, that you'll see a de-commitment in the near future.
texas4ever
10-28-2020, 07:10 PM
Per IT, they feel that QB Quinn Ewers will NOT stay committed to Texas. I would suspect, that you'll see a de-commitment in the near future.
And to be fair, Mike Roach 24/7 was the first to bring up concerns today.
Trill Clinton
10-28-2020, 08:32 PM
Can they just fire Herman and get it over with already.
pgardn
10-28-2020, 08:51 PM
Per IT, they feel that QB Quinn Ewers will NOT stay committed to Texas. I would suspect, that you'll see a de-commitment in the near future.
The plane has run into the side of the mountain.
We are cooked.
texas4ever
10-28-2020, 09:06 PM
Can they just fire Herman and get it over with already.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oFzmkkwfOGlzZ0gxi/giphy.gif
bluetrumpet
10-28-2020, 09:14 PM
Decommitment already went down :/
pgardn
10-28-2020, 09:27 PM
I wonder if Ewers talked with Sam...
Sam says its not good bro... save yourself.
benefactor
10-28-2020, 09:36 PM
Sinking ship tbh
Trill Clinton
10-28-2020, 09:45 PM
Loss milroe because they flirted with ewers and now ewers is gone. Fire Herman, now!
Dennis the Menace
10-29-2020, 12:31 AM
1) Hire Urban
2) Remove or scale back Longhorn Network
= Great Success
If people want fast results and action, just stop watching. This University/Program accepts losing. However, this University/Program doesn’t accept revenues dropping. Money talks, it’s all they know. That simple.
texas4ever
10-29-2020, 08:02 AM
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Kermit
10-29-2020, 09:30 AM
Hahahahaha. Well, we get what we deserve.
texas4ever
10-29-2020, 09:37 AM
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TheMex
10-29-2020, 11:41 AM
Have we lost Sanders yet?
Kermit
10-29-2020, 12:24 PM
Have we lost Sanders yet?
That will come after OSU beats Texas like a rented mule.
Billybass
10-29-2020, 04:03 PM
If Sanders decommits, it will be a real shame. That kid is a class act and a bonafide STUD.
but something bad seems to be going on. The losses have been so close, yet here we are. If Herman doesn’t turn it around quick, why would a star want to come here ?
it feels like what is wrong is more than just a couple of close losses.
Eastexhorn
10-29-2020, 05:27 PM
Texas can do two things.
1 Hire Urban or a coach his equall
2 Join SMU conference and go small.
Can not run with the big dogs with puppies in charge.
Eastexhorn
10-29-2020, 05:29 PM
texas4ever thanks for recruiting infro. and cleaning up the board.
Seems to me some how Texas is always late in offers to recruits.
I realize they are coaching forthier jobs but are still late
texas4ever
10-29-2020, 06:23 PM
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Kermit
10-29-2020, 07:51 PM
Whatever it takes.
GregoryJim
10-30-2020, 08:43 AM
Most important factors to winning big:
1. Talent (saban wouldn’t win more than 8-9 with this roster).
1b. Play in conference perceived as top notch. We can’t recruit top talent if sec/big 10 schools rag on our schedule (byebye aShawn Robinson, ringo, brocks)
2. Quarterback. Clemson didn’t win big til deshaun/hunter. Same for ou.
3. Coaching. Btw you fire the coach when the players quit. Not because Ingram drops a td v LSU and fumbles against tcu.
We can hire Lombardis ghost and we aren’t going to win big in big12 as is bc recruiting disadvantage.
So why dont you geniuses figure out how we recruit ark, misery, corn, buffs, aggy, usc, or UCLA etc to make great 16. Lotta schools gonna need lotta cash w Covid damage.
texas4ever
10-30-2020, 10:10 AM
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Eastexhorn
10-30-2020, 11:13 AM
Most important factors to winning big:
1. Talent (saban wouldn’t win more than 8-9 with this roster).
1b. Play in conference perceived as top notch. We can’t recruit top talent if sec/big 10 schools rag on our schedule (byebye aShawn Robinson, ringo, brocks)
2. Quarterback. Clemson didn’t win big til deshaun/hunter. Same for ou.
3. Coaching. Btw you fire the coach when the players quit. Not because Ingram drops a td v LSU and fumbles against tcu.
We can hire Lombardis ghost and we aren’t going to win big in big12 as is bc recruiting disadvantage.
So why dont you geniuses figure out how we recruit ark, misery, corn, buffs, aggy, usc, or UCLA etc to make great 16. Lotta schools gonna need lotta cash w Covid damage.
Agree with most. Ingram did not drop pass it wasa poorly thrown ball.
bluetrumpet
10-31-2020, 03:25 PM
Two offensive drives in and and they look like a peewee football team playing out there. Bijan is the one good thing so far in this game but he’s not going to be able to do it on his own. Also, Jake Smith is starting to look like a disappointment with the dropped passes and injuries. Not living up to the hype
leemajors
10-31-2020, 03:43 PM
Duvernay and Johnson really made Sam look decent.
soldierhorn
10-31-2020, 04:55 PM
Duvernay and Johnson really made Sam look decent.
yep. for three years
soldierhorn
10-31-2020, 04:58 PM
Two offensive drives in and and they look like a peewee football team playing out there. Bijan is the one good thing so far in this game but he’s not going to be able to do it on his own. Also, Jake Smith is starting to look like a disappointment with the dropped passes and injuries. Not living up to the hype
As usual, they didnt let Sam be Sam in the first half. Sam has to keep the ball on the RPO a few times for it to mean anything. Hope they dont wait until they get desperate again.
leemajors
10-31-2020, 06:42 PM
There was no reason to take that sack
bluetrumpet
10-31-2020, 06:48 PM
Wow.....defense way too soft there on that final drive by Ok state. Also, why does our offense just slow down and change their whole game plan?
Biggems
10-31-2020, 07:12 PM
Great win.....Ossai is a beast and a warrior....our OL is beyond trash.
GAustex
10-31-2020, 08:05 PM
The incomplete pass call was huge.
Finally something broke UT’s way.
It was about time for a break to go UT way.
Good win
bluetrumpet
10-31-2020, 09:34 PM
Definitely not a fair-weather fan considering I grew up in a Longhorn household and actually graduated from there. The results of one game doesn’t make up for his lack of success in all his others. I would give Sam just as much if not more credit for that go ahead touchdown. Sam was the one who extended the play by scrambling from the pocket pressure and threw the ball right on Jake’s numbers. Lots of expectations come with the Gatorade player of the year tag and he hasn’t met them. Also, didn’t you say he was transferring out two weeks ago??? What happened there?
Biggems
10-31-2020, 10:23 PM
I am sick and tired of this OL looking like a doggie door.....DL and LB coming through as they please, with minimal opposition.....
Harvey88210
11-01-2020, 04:48 AM
Caden Sterns had the worst game I’ve seen from a starter in 3 years. Go back and watch the 2nd and 3rd TD’s from OSU. Picked his corner playing man on outside receiver and let his own man get wide open for the score on their second TD. Then got stuck in la la land to let Chuba Hubbard get wide open to give OSU TD number three and the lead.
Trill Clinton
11-01-2020, 07:58 AM
Caden Sterns had the worst game I’ve seen from a starter in 3 years. Go back and watch the 2nd and 3rd TD’s from OSU. Picked his corner playing man on outside receiver and let his own man get wide open for the score on their second TD. Then got stuck in la la land to let Chuba Hubbard get wide open to give OSU TD number three and the lead.
He looked like a future 1st rounder his freshman year. He looks like a practice squad body now smh.
pgardn
11-01-2020, 09:13 AM
He looked like a future 1st rounder his freshman year. He looks like a practice squad body now smh.
So true.
He has been injured a hell of a lot.
The instinct, hitting, speed are gone.
Its not just this year or this game either.
texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:14 AM
https://youtu.be/WJGTo9XGaIs
texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:21 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:22 AM
Beast!
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:23 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:24 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:28 AM
Texas offers 2022 QB Cade Klubnik (Austin Westlake)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Cade-Klubnik-46056879/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11576876/Cade-Klubnik
texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:34 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:37 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s16t36Ol4Bw
texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:40 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:42 AM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 10:57 AM
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Eastexhorn
11-01-2020, 11:22 AM
Texas offers 2022 QB Cade Klubnik (Austin Westlake)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Cade-Klubnik-46056879/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11576876/Cade-Klubnik
Ewers replacement or nextSam. Also the Alanta rabbit hopped off to Kentucky.
ColinB
11-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Sterns might be the slowest safety in the nation. He plays like he has cinder blocks tied to his feet. Unfortunate because his Freshmen campaign was so promising.
TheMex
11-01-2020, 03:49 PM
Sterns might be the slowest safety in the nation. He plays like he has cinder blocks tied to his feet. Unfortunate because his Freshmen campaign was so promising.
Sterns plays every play to not get injured.
texas4ever
11-01-2020, 04:37 PM
Sterns plays every play to not get injured.
Very timid for sure.
texas4ever
11-01-2020, 04:38 PM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 04:40 PM
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texas4ever
11-01-2020, 04:45 PM
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soldierhorn
11-01-2020, 04:45 PM
The incomplete pass call was huge.
Finally something broke UT’s way.
It was about time for a break to go UT way.
Good win
yeah, I replayed that play several times. the receivers left hand looked to squeeze the ball as it hit the ground; meaning he didnt have complete control when the ball hit the ground, his hand pushed in on the ball. if he had full control and the ground didnt help him make the catch, the ball wouldnt look like he pushed in with pressure. But, yeah, that could have gone either way and I'm surprised it went Texas' way
soldierhorn
11-01-2020, 04:48 PM
Beast!
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HUGE game for Ossai. If they could get a couple of other players to live up to expectations, they would have a shut down defense
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soldierhorn
11-01-2020, 04:51 PM
Texas offers 2022 QB Cade Klubnik (Austin Westlake)
1322725930041806849
https://247sports.com/Player/Cade-Klubnik-46056879/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11576876/Cade-Klubnik
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Good offer, IMO. Longhorn program could do very well just living off the Austin area QB pipeline. Several NFL QBs from the Austin area were never offered.
soldierhorn
11-01-2020, 04:55 PM
Sterns might be the slowest safety in the nation. He plays like he has cinder blocks tied to his feet. Unfortunate because his Freshmen campaign was so promising.
like the rest of the DBs, part of that is poor technique; wrong initial steps, bad angles, only going to strip the ball instead of playing the ball, on and on and on.
Without spring training and a summer to work on what they should have learned in the spring, it's hard to instill new habits (technique) that was taught for 2-3 yrs
soldierhorn
11-01-2020, 11:15 PM
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texas4ever
11-02-2020, 09:28 AM
Billy Bowman commits to OU.
texas4ever
11-02-2020, 09:45 AM
Texas offers 2022 LB Trevell Johnson (Arlington Martin)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Trevell-Johnson-46097710/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11725090/Trevell-Johnson
Billybass
11-02-2020, 09:56 AM
Billy Bowman commits to OU.
His girlfriend goes there, so what can you say ? Good luck kid. But I hope you lose every year.
Eastexhorn
11-02-2020, 09:58 AM
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When Sams is in the zone theres none better. When he is not in the zone he is average.
texas4ever
11-02-2020, 10:00 AM
His girlfriend goes there, so what can you say ? Good luck kid. But I hope you lose every year.
It's hard to compete vs the all-time undefeated.
Billybass
11-02-2020, 10:07 AM
His girlfriend goes there, so what can you say ? Good luck kid. But I hope you lose every year.
JaTavion Sanders is by far the best player on that team, and no matter what playblair says, he is solid to Texas now. Btw, funny to put a timer on how fast playblairs posts get deleted by new mods. LMAO !
When Sams is in the zone theres none better. When he is not in the zone he is average.
tbh it seems sam operates infinitely better running spread concepts
not sure why herman doesn't just convert to the spread and let him play like vince did. maybe if he didn't wait until the 4th every game, they would actually blow some teams out or not have to go down to the wire so much
soldierhorn
11-02-2020, 10:53 AM
Good for the young men. They need a positive jolt and Ossai is turning into the leader needed. Let the results on the field be your message
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soldierhorn
11-02-2020, 11:06 AM
LOVE it. come with a chip on your shoulder.
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Billybass
11-02-2020, 11:25 AM
LOVE it. come with a chip on your shoulder.
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no substitute for hard work and good attitude!!!
from an outsider's point of view, i think this team is pretty decent. they're just a few plays away from being unbeaten. they're not a top tier team but better than some on this board are giving them credit for being. i just can't see how herman would be fired if this team either goes undefeated or only loses one more game the rest of the season.
Ballin42
11-02-2020, 12:41 PM
1 play away from 5-1 and a stop away from 6-0. Also really close to beinbg 3-3
texas4ever
11-02-2020, 12:55 PM
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1 play away from 5-1 and a stop away from 6-0. Also really close to beinbg 3-3
well, that's kind of what college football is. the other things to look at are improvement. does this team seem better today than it was at the start of the season?
LaMarcus Bryant
11-02-2020, 02:04 PM
tbh it seems sam operates infinitely better running spread concepts
not sure why herman doesn't just convert to the spread and let him play like vince did. maybe if he didn't wait until the 4th every game, they would actually blow some teams out or not have to go down to the wire so much
The short answer is that if we used it all game they'd likely counter it sooner. I don't think the OL or Sams body can handle running that offense an entire game.
LaMarcus Bryant
11-02-2020, 02:05 PM
Only thing I saw improved was the D-Line but that was mostly because Spencer can't pass for shit. Really easy to unleash the hounds when the opposing QB is turnover prone and just bad at throwing. Other improvement was Jake Smith in the slot. His route on the UT 4th down TD end of regulation was clutch. He may become the Shipley we have needed if he continues to build chemistry with Sam on slot audibles. Which is huge bc Sam's getting his ass kicked out there.
pgardn
11-02-2020, 02:10 PM
well, that's kind of what college football is. the other things to look at are improvement. does this team seem better today than it was at the start of the season?
After the UTEP game, a game in which we finally blew a team out of the water, yeah.
We still have deep problems. Ossai and Overshown willing to switch positions and being great athletes helped tremendously last game.
But our middle three on the OL are really awful. Our secondary is confused. And our DL in the middle is oh so slow getting off blocks.
I could continue... but we are not a good team.
ATM on the other hand is showing the SEC ground and pound. And their DL is really helping out a very mediocre secondary.
Pretty damn impressive when Mond is not forced into tough passing situations. Time will tell because as its possible the SEC is weak minus Alabama and maybe Georgia. We will see. At this point Alabama is so far ahead it ridiculous.
LaMarcus Bryant
11-02-2020, 02:28 PM
After the UTEP game, a game in which we finally blew a team out of the water, yeah.
We still have deep problems. Ossai and Overshown willing to switch positions and being great athletes helped tremendously last game.
But our middle three on the OL are really awful. Our secondary is confused. And our DL in the middle is oh so slow getting off blocks.
I could continue... but we are not a good team.
ATM on the other hand is showing the SEC ground and pound. And their DL is really helping out a very mediocre secondary.
Pretty damn impressive when Mond is not forced into tough passing situations. Time will tell because as its possible the SEC is weak minus Alabama and maybe Georgia. We will see. At this point Alabama is so far ahead it ridiculous.
They will likely run the table and have their best chance to actually do anything in the Jimbo era. Their schedule is laughably easy once Bama game was done.
After the UTEP game, a game in which we finally blew a team out of the water, yeah.
We still have deep problems. Ossai and Overshown willing to switch positions and being great athletes helped tremendously last game.
But our middle three on the OL are really awful. Our secondary is confused. And our DL in the middle is oh so slow getting off blocks.
I could continue... but we are not a good team.
ATM on the other hand is showing the SEC ground and pound. And their DL is really helping out a very mediocre secondary.
Pretty damn impressive when Mond is not forced into tough passing situations. Time will tell because as its possible the SEC is weak minus Alabama and maybe Georgia. We will see. At this point Alabama is so far ahead it ridiculous.
college football has settled into a boring pattern of 'bama, clemson and osu with an occasional upstart or great season for the once traditional powers (LSU and OU being the most recent examples).
They will likely run the table and have their best chance to actually do anything in the Jimbo era. Their schedule is laughably easy once Bama game was done.
the younger players are delivering especially along the O and D lines and also at the skill positions. promising, but i know a&m enough to know that they are just as likely to turn around and lay an egg against SC so i just take it one game at a time.
TheMex
11-02-2020, 05:49 PM
What is TFB saying about Meyer? There’s an update from six hours ago but can’t read.
Eastexhorn
11-02-2020, 06:14 PM
Only thing I saw improved was the D-Line but that was mostly because Spencer can't pass for shit. Really easy to unleash the hounds when the opposing QB is turnover prone and just bad at throwing. Other improvement was Jake Smith in the slot. His route on the UT 4th down TD end of regulation was clutch. He may become the Shipley we have needed if he continues to build chemistry with Sam on slot audibles. Which is huge bc Sam's getting his ass kicked out there.
Glad Spencer is apoorpasser orOk. St. would have had 800 yds instead 400.
LaMarcus Bryant
11-02-2020, 06:18 PM
Glad Spencer is apoorpasser orOk. St. would have had 800 yds instead 400.
You prob aren't wrong.
Tylan Wallace was crazy open on so many Routes.
woofwoof
11-02-2020, 11:10 PM
You prob aren't wrong.
Tylan Wallace was crazy open on so many Routes.
And yet we consistently have our dbs 7-15 yards off the receiver. They need to be bumping and running. Its the most frustrating thing for a receiver.
Also would give more time to our drive to get to the qb.
texas4ever
11-03-2020, 08:19 AM
Texas offers 2023 DB Malik Muhammad (South Oak Cliff)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Malik-Muhammad-46086675/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/13004551/Malik-Muhammad
texas4ever
11-03-2020, 08:20 AM
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soldierhorn
11-03-2020, 08:55 AM
tbh it seems sam operates infinitely better running spread concepts
not sure why herman doesn't just convert to the spread and let him play like vince did. maybe if he didn't wait until the 4th every game, they would actually blow some teams out or not have to go down to the wire so much
The power spread is a staple of Herman - it is what he knows and what he brings to the table. If he were able to seamlessly go from power to full spread, he would have kept Shane as the QB for two years since had better QB skill set. Because he insisted on P-S and Shane had to conform to it, Sam was the obvious choice. I dont think Herman is going to change to a full spread as the base offense with a less accurate QB.
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soldierhorn
11-03-2020, 09:01 AM
And yet we consistently have our dbs 7-15 yards off the receiver. They need to be bumping and running. Its the most frustrating thing for a receiver.
Also would give more time to our drive to get to the qb.
agree... If you have speedsters like Jamison, he should be able to disrupt the receivers route and stay with him. Watson was another speed guy and that is what made his transfer so annoying.
LaMarcus Bryant
11-03-2020, 10:29 AM
And yet we consistently have our dbs 7-15 yards off the receiver. They need to be bumping and running. Its the most frustrating thing for a receiver.
Also would give more time to our drive to get to the qb.
Personally I can't shit on the OSU defensive game plan, for better or worse they did the same thing they did last year. Last year Gundy was too chicken shit to open it up with Sanders, despite UT having a horrible horrible pass coverage record going into the game. This year Gundy tried to open it up but they kept turnign it over, largely due to UT pressure. So I can't hate.
OSU is a better team with their standard moderately athletic white QB than a runner type IMO.
texas4ever
11-03-2020, 10:56 AM
Bobby Burton 24/7
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Tom Herman is on thin ice. The college football world knows it, his own coaching staff is aware of it, as are his players, and lots of recruits.
The team’s improbable victory in Stillwater gives Herman a glimmer of hope that he can still get to the Big 12 championship game if the Horns win out.
I don’t think it will happen. But stranger things have occurred.
There is no guarantee that Tom Herman will be fired. However, I can guarantee that he has no margin for error in the season’s final two months. Period.
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Over the first six games, what has been the biggest issue for the Horns?
I believe it has been the inconsistent play of the offense.
There have been large parts of every game, everyone of them except UTEP, where the offense just goes cold.
I think a major part of that is the receiver group. They are just not a good group overall..
They are not getting open often enough, especially on the outside, and the injuries to Jordan Whittington and Jake Smith have been a factor. Only Whittington, Smith and Josh Moore seem to have the ability to regularly beat defenders one on one. Brennan Eagles has been effective at times but also inconsistent in that regard. All other receivers have to be schemed open, which is easier said than done.
The same can be said for tight end. Cade Brewer must be schemed open. Jared Wiley has actually gotten himself open a few times but he’s not exactly a crisp route runner yet.
Then we have the play of Sam Ehlinger.
Dissecting Ehlinger is tough because he brings so many different aspects to the table.
He’s a good, strong runner, but not an explosive one.
He’s an adequate thrower, but still has issues waiting too long to throw deep balls or even getting his eyes to go to his next receiver quickly enough. He has a relatively long release which impacts the passing game.
For Texas to improve the remainder of the season, I think Ehlinger’s mindset must change somewhat and I think Texas needs to find a way to get its best receivers on the field more frequently together. Texas coaches need to put Moore, Whittington and Smith into complementary roles, like they did by moving Moore to the slot in overtime against OSU.
As for Ehlinger’s mindset, he has to start thinking less about the deep ball and more about moving the chains. Sure, OSU has a good defense, but Texas went 2 of 15 on third downs on Saturday. The majority of those were third-and-six or longer. Ehlinger has to start taking more of what a defense might give him instead of looking for chunk plays in early downs. Likewise, the Texas coaching staff needs to emphasize that.
Last but not least, the dumb penalties must end. Derek Kerstetter can’t plow into people after the whistle for 15 yards or butt snap a third and short. Junior Angilau must continue to improve as a pass blocker. Denzel Okafor and Christian Jones must play better together on the right side.
I think Texas can get better on offense. The tools are there. They just have to be smarter. It’ll require a slight change in mindset and deploying those tools in a smarter way.
Unfortunately, the chances are that not much of this will happen this season. Rarely does it suddenly click seven games into the year.
So despite the tremendous guts Ehlinger shows every week, the Horns are likely to continue to be inconsistent on offense and the head coach’s tenure hangs in the balance.
Link: https://247sports.com/college/texas/board/21/Contents/tuesday-154133648/?page=1
texas4ever
11-03-2020, 10:59 AM
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11-03-2020, 11:03 AM
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texas4ever
11-03-2020, 11:06 AM
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texas4ever
11-03-2020, 11:08 AM
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11-03-2020, 11:20 AM
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Billybass
11-03-2020, 12:06 PM
I appreciate your posts texas4ever, and everything else you do !
soldierhorn
11-03-2020, 03:50 PM
Burton uses a lot of words to say nothing original or insightful
Billybass
11-03-2020, 04:08 PM
Interesting to me anyway, that he blames the receivers for a lot of the problems with the offense.
Our board consistently blames Sam. Could it be that Sam is better than we are giving him credit for ?
soldierhorn
11-03-2020, 04:24 PM
That's not insightful. The receivers have been a big disappointment. We are seeing the difference between Collin J. & Devin D. bailing Sam out for 3 years (along with LJH early on) and this new set of receivers that cant get separation, inconsistent hands and rarely makes an acrobatic catch to bail Sam out.
texas4ever
11-03-2020, 05:02 PM
https://youtu.be/nMu0U37DLw0
soldierhorn
11-03-2020, 05:04 PM
Interesting to me anyway, that he blames the receivers for a lot of the problems with the offense.
Our board consistently blames Sam. Could it be that Sam is better than we are giving him credit for ?
I should have added: Obviously, Ehlinger is not having a good year throwing the ball. Did he suddenly forget how to do that in his senior year? no, of course not; he's actually gotten better in a couple of aspects of the QB skill set. The revelation should be that he never was a particularly good passer.... but people didnt care. Pollyanna fan(atic)s tend to overlook the obvious because they want to be on the bandwagon that goes down the yellow brick road to the fandom mountaintop.
Eastexhorn
11-03-2020, 05:12 PM
And if WRS get open deep Sam misses them.
soldierhorn
11-03-2020, 05:51 PM
And, not to pile on (well, I guess i am)... but how little confidence do you have in your receivers when in a critical third down situation, with the game on the line, you throw a deep sideline jump ball to a short TE that cant get separation or cant jump? If they were going to do that, why not use the more athletic Epps or Wiley?
If they had a go-to receiver or two, I dont see how Brewer is put in that situation
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woofwoof
11-03-2020, 09:17 PM
Yeah Cade should be blocking, but Wiley should be getting the routes. Damn if he isn't a great route runner, he's wide the hell open most of the time. Just throw him the damn ball
pgardn
11-03-2020, 10:13 PM
Sam has lead some very big comebacks and he is not getting blocking.
He has be very inconsistent passing though, but some of the stuff is horrible route running.
We would have won 1 game without Sam imo. In college, the ability to convert on 3rd and 4th down via the threat of a run is huge. Sam CAN get that done without speed. He is very, very good a slight deeks while moving forward and breaking arms that result from subtle moves. But he MUST be moving forward. An oline with the middle 3 actually getting blocks would be extraordinarily helpful, its not there.
Biggems
11-04-2020, 12:26 AM
We win out, we end up 8-2, with both losses being in OT. It seems like every week, they end up in OT....
elbamba1
11-04-2020, 11:11 AM
https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2020/11/02/texas-football-recruiting-billy-bowman-blasts-staff/?utm_source=affref&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=365GameDay&fbclid=IwAR14uYVGs-90mjJn6DqVr0Stesmp92hLPFPYlKl2IC7ReJ9SEIKswCSlEVg
New Oklahoma commit blasts Longhorns' coaching staff
texas4ever
11-04-2020, 12:15 PM
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Billybass
11-04-2020, 01:07 PM
https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2020/11/02/texas-football-recruiting-billy-bowman-blasts-staff/?utm_source=affref&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=365GameDay&fbclid=IwAR14uYVGs-90mjJn6DqVr0Stesmp92hLPFPYlKl2IC7ReJ9SEIKswCSlEVg
New Oklahoma commit blasts Longhorns' coaching staff
Did not see anything in his interview that blasted longhorns coaching staff. That title is an example of fake news
Ballin42
11-04-2020, 03:31 PM
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bluebellmaniac
11-04-2020, 09:27 PM
https://texastakes.com/2020/11/03/chris-del-conte-called-a-booster-last-week-asking-for-money-to-buyout-herman-and-confirmed-he-had-urban-meyers-verbal-commitment/
Seems legit...
pgardn
11-04-2020, 10:02 PM
https://texastakes.com/2020/11/03/chris-del-conte-called-a-booster-last-week-asking-for-money-to-buyout-herman-and-confirmed-he-had-urban-meyers-verbal-commitment/
Seems legit...
It makes perfect sense.
CDC was hired to fix something that is clearly broken.
He gave Herman his chance.
All of us see that even when we win there are so many problems to be fixed that its insurmountable that we win a bunch of tough games.
We can stay competitive against any team in conf, but we cant put anyone away because of lack of discipline, fundamentals, and thus consistency.
I have a feeling we will get hit hard in one of these conference games with a lopsided score and thats it. We can get worse.
soldierhorn
11-05-2020, 09:05 AM
https://texastakes.com/2020/11/03/chris-del-conte-called-a-booster-last-week-asking-for-money-to-buyout-herman-and-confirmed-he-had-urban-meyers-verbal-commitment/
Seems legit...
I have no idea whether it is legit or not but I dont like the way it was written.
"sloppy thirds?" -- Stupid comment. Is Saban 'Bama's sloppy seconds? does anyone really care? no. results matter
"huge strain in the Herman/CDC relationship...obviously stems from CDC wanting to fire his ass and hire Urban" -- again, not accurate. Herman is not CDC's guy and the "strained relationship" stems from Herman's arrogance and disregard for leadership & guidance on top of not winning enough while conducting himself in a sophomoric fashion (flipping off cameras, mocking an opposing player, etc) embarrassing the administration & boosters. And, then to top of all this, his recent disregard for CDC's guidance in abiding by and respecting the school song (EoT). If CDC is reaching out, it is due to things Herman has done and not just a sudden inquiry out of the blue.
texas4ever
11-06-2020, 12:08 PM
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texas4ever
11-06-2020, 12:09 PM
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texas4ever
11-06-2020, 12:10 PM
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texas4ever
11-06-2020, 12:20 PM
Texas offers 2023 DB Javien Toviano (Arlington Martin)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Javien-Toviano-46103147/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/10169830/Javien-Toviano
bluebellmaniac
11-06-2020, 02:23 PM
Been gone for a while. Have they announced the new coach yet?
texas4ever
11-06-2020, 04:01 PM
Texas offers 2022 DE DJ Wesolak (Boonville, MO)
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https://247sports.com/Player/DJ-Wesolak-46103936/
woofwoof
11-07-2020, 01:59 PM
If Todd Orlando is the DC at USC, wow, how quickly he brought/taught terrible angles and bad tackling.
texas4ever
11-07-2020, 03:47 PM
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GAustex
11-07-2020, 03:56 PM
Survived an indifferent offensive performance with bend but don’t break defense.
Only good thing to say is it is good to win ugly.
GAustex
11-07-2020, 03:57 PM
Should have added the young running back looked good.
woofwoof
11-07-2020, 03:58 PM
Whats the consensus? Just happy to get a win or thinking we should be blowing WV out therefore "fire him"?
Cowhorns01
11-07-2020, 04:05 PM
And Robinson should be getting 24 carries not 12. Truly a difference maker. But that's Herman personnel decisions. He is terrible with that too.
texas4ever
11-07-2020, 04:05 PM
Whats the consensus? Just happy to get a win or thinking we should be blowing WV out therefore "fire him"?
Texas’ OL is sooooo bad. Just happy to get a win at this point. Defense looks to have turned the corner and is the strength of this Team now.
texas4ever
11-07-2020, 04:06 PM
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OL is bad, but poor gameplans and poor discipline are really brutal too.
regardless of the crappy OL, they still should have won by 14-20, but instead they drop passes, have no idea how to run RPOs, throw repeatedly into areas where the WR are blinded by the sun, and abandon effective gameplans. why was bijan nowhere to be found in the 2nd and 3rd quarters? the usage of josh moore makes no sense at all. and if you go spread, why not sprinkle in more designed sam runs to force the defense to play more honest and out of their tight man coverage strategies? why are those runs only called when they have to use them late in the 4th? to save his energy? so the solution is to run him 12 times a game on crummy RPOs for 1 yard stuffs and 800lbs of people piling on him every time?
so much stupid crap
pgardn
11-07-2020, 11:53 PM
Our secondary and wideouts are physically weak.
Sam looks and throws like he is banged up.
If this team wins out it will be a miracle.
Eastexhorn
11-08-2020, 10:35 AM
Kansas is a give me, if luck holds like in last two games on to ship game for embaresment.
Sam needs the off week bound to be banged up.Rest him a lot vs Kansas.
Wonder if Dabo is being ripped by fans?
pgardn
11-08-2020, 10:47 AM
If Todd Orlando is the DC at USC, wow, how quickly he brought/taught terrible angles and bad tackling.
I saw that.
they can claim to be shaking off the rust
it won’t work once we get a full season
texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x52uQ8LtNGQ
texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:11 PM
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texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:12 PM
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texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:17 PM
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texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:20 PM
Texas offers 2021 DE Gharin Stansbury (Franklin, LA)
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https://247sports.com/player/gharin-stansbury-46097905/
texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:23 PM
Texas offers 2021 DE Barryn Sorrell (New Orleans, LA)
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https://247sports.com/player/barryn-sorrell-46099427/
texas4ever
11-08-2020, 01:25 PM
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bluetrumpet
11-08-2020, 01:46 PM
Thank for the updates texas! Any news on who might be the next commit for the 21 or 22 class? Was hoping LJ Johnson would be committing sooner rather than later. Are we 100% out of the running for Ewers?
texas4ever
11-08-2020, 02:22 PM
Thank for the updates texas! Any news on who might be the next commit for the 21 or 22 class? Was hoping LJ Johnson would be committing sooner rather than later. Are we 100% out of the running for Ewers?
Its going to be slow with Herman on the hot seat. I believe LJ is favoring Aggie at the moment. If I was to guess it would be LB, Terrence Cooks, Pearland Shadow Creek.
https://247sports.com/Player/Terrence-Cooks-46086031/
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