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Eastexhorn
11-08-2020, 06:18 PM
Thank for the updates texas! Any news on who might be the next commit for the 21 or 22 class? Was hoping LJ Johnson would be committing sooner rather than later. Are we 100% out of the running for Ewers?

Doubt if any one commits till season is over.
Johnson is proably LSU bound.
No chance for Ewers unless there is a coaching cnange. All IMO.

texas4ever
11-09-2020, 01:37 PM
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texas4ever
11-09-2020, 01:38 PM
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texas4ever
11-09-2020, 02:03 PM
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texas4ever
11-09-2020, 03:34 PM
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GregoryJim
11-09-2020, 03:35 PM
Note to self. Don't look at this forum if I am feeling depressed.

So Herman is 30-17 in 3 1/2 years and you are all about to commit suicide. BTW he has won 3 bowl games. He should be at 32-34 wins by end of season (8-8.5 wins per year). If he can win out in reg season then Horns will b in big 12 champ game 2x in 4 years. Probably 50/50 chance of that this season.

Did Mack make the big12 champ 2x in his 1st 4 years?

LJ Johnson is going to LSU? Cuz why? Orgeron is a better coach than Herman???? Hell No. We are losing? No. LSU is much worse than us. If LJ & Ewers don't want to come to Texas then its probably because our fans want the coach fired, the offensive coordinator fired, the d coord fired after the first quarter of the first game.

And when you all get your way and get Herman fired we are going to hire who? 57 year old Urban Meyer??? Jim Harbaugh after he gets fired? Bob Stoops? Mark Stoops? The Florida Coach Mullen? Iowa Sts Coach??? Entice Brian Kelly or Dabo to move to Austin? Kelly & Dabo arent coming and the others aren't a clear upgrade (even urban given his age).

And why would any of those coaches do that other than an old Urban Meyer or Iowa Sts coach? No one is going to want to coach here when he is going to be fired if he is not averaging 10 wins in his first 3 years w/ so so talent to start off with.

I'd vote for Rhule the former Baylor coach but other than that there is no upgrade.

If Herman loses to Kansas, he gotta go. Other than that you support him 100% so we can get best recruiting class possible. We need better talent even if he has a crappy year next year.

Hopefully, we win out and Bijan goes crazy in champ game while D harrasses the hell out of OUsux.

Hook em. And take your prozac.

LaMarcus Bryant
11-09-2020, 03:53 PM
Bujceski finally was punting really well and he goes and tears his own ACL

typical lol

leemajors
11-09-2020, 04:50 PM
Note to self. Don't look at this forum if I am feeling depressed.

So Herman is 30-17 in 3 1/2 years and you are all about to commit suicide. BTW he has won 3 bowl games. He should be at 32-34 wins by end of season (8-8.5 wins per year). If he can win out in reg season then Horns will b in big 12 champ game 2x in 4 years. Probably 50/50 chance of that this season.

Did Mack make the big12 champ 2x in his 1st 4 years?

LJ Johnson is going to LSU? Cuz why? Orgeron is a better coach than Herman???? Hell No. We are losing? No. LSU is much worse than us. If LJ & Ewers don't want to come to Texas then its probably because our fans want the coach fired, the offensive coordinator fired, the d coord fired after the first quarter of the first game.

And when you all get your way and get Herman fired we are going to hire who? 57 year old Urban Meyer??? Jim Harbaugh after he gets fired? Bob Stoops? Mark Stoops? The Florida Coach Mullen? Iowa Sts Coach??? Entice Brian Kelly or Dabo to move to Austin? Kelly & Dabo arent coming and the others aren't a clear upgrade (even urban given his age).

And why would any of those coaches do that other than an old Urban Meyer or Iowa Sts coach? No one is going to want to coach here when he is going to be fired if he is not averaging 10 wins in his first 3 years w/ so so talent to start off with.

I'd vote for Rhule the former Baylor coach but other than that there is no upgrade.

If Herman loses to Kansas, he gotta go. Other than that you support him 100% so we can get best recruiting class possible. We need better talent even if he has a crappy year next year.

Hopefully, we win out and Bijan goes crazy in champ game while D harrasses the hell out of OUsux.

Hook em. And take your prozac.

I really, really hope they start giving Bijan the lions share of carries, and not doing it by committee.

woofwoof
11-09-2020, 06:06 PM
Yeah they wanted somebody to separate themselves, I think it is safe to say, he has done that

pgardn
11-09-2020, 07:06 PM
Note to self. Don't look at this forum if I am feeling depressed.

So Herman is 30-17 in 3 1/2 years and you are all about to commit suicide. BTW he has won 3 bowl games. He should be at 32-34 wins by end of season (8-8.5 wins per year). If he can win out in reg season then Horns will b in big 12 champ game 2x in 4 years. Probably 50/50 chance of that this season.

Did Mack make the big12 champ 2x in his 1st 4 years?

LJ Johnson is going to LSU? Cuz why? Orgeron is a better coach than Herman???? Hell No. We are losing? No. LSU is much worse than us. If LJ & Ewers don't want to come to Texas then its probably because our fans want the coach fired, the offensive coordinator fired, the d coord fired after the first quarter of the first game.

And when you all get your way and get Herman fired we are going to hire who? 57 year old Urban Meyer??? Jim Harbaugh after he gets fired? Bob Stoops? Mark Stoops? The Florida Coach Mullen? Iowa Sts Coach??? Entice Brian Kelly or Dabo to move to Austin? Kelly & Dabo arent coming and the others aren't a clear upgrade (even urban given his age).

And why would any of those coaches do that other than an old Urban Meyer or Iowa Sts coach? No one is going to want to coach here when he is going to be fired if he is not averaging 10 wins in his first 3 years w/ so so talent to start off with.

I'd vote for Rhule the former Baylor coach but other than that there is no upgrade.

If Herman loses to Kansas, he gotta go. Other than that you support him 100% so we can get best recruiting class possible. We need better talent even if he has a crappy year next year.

Hopefully, we win out and Bijan goes crazy in champ game while D harrasses the hell out of OUsux.

Hook em. And take your prozac.

Its not the stats, its the way we win and lose and the horrible inconsistency.
If you watch the games its the same thing over and over.
We only play an entire game in our Bowl games.
If we played every game with the intensity and focus of the bowl games, Id be happy, even if losing to OU (if we just play well)

And this conference is much weaker than what Mack faced so I think its hard to compare the two.

That being said Im definitely for continuity. but the lack of being able to recruit for example OL... wft is up?

Kermit
11-09-2020, 08:54 PM
Note to self. Don't look at this forum if I am feeling depressed.

So Herman is 30-17 in 3 1/2 years and you are all about to commit suicide. BTW he has won 3 bowl games. He should be at 32-34 wins by end of season (8-8.5 wins per year). If he can win out in reg season then Horns will b in big 12 champ game 2x in 4 years. Probably 50/50 chance of that this season.

Did Mack make the big12 champ 2x in his 1st 4 years?

LJ Johnson is going to LSU? Cuz why? Orgeron is a better coach than Herman???? Hell No. We are losing? No. LSU is much worse than us. If LJ & Ewers don't want to come to Texas then its probably because our fans want the coach fired, the offensive coordinator fired, the d coord fired after the first quarter of the first game.

And when you all get your way and get Herman fired we are going to hire who? 57 year old Urban Meyer??? Jim Harbaugh after he gets fired? Bob Stoops? Mark Stoops? The Florida Coach Mullen? Iowa Sts Coach??? Entice Brian Kelly or Dabo to move to Austin? Kelly & Dabo arent coming and the others aren't a clear upgrade (even urban given his age).

And why would any of those coaches do that other than an old Urban Meyer or Iowa Sts coach? No one is going to want to coach here when he is going to be fired if he is not averaging 10 wins in his first 3 years w/ so so talent to start off with.

I'd vote for Rhule the former Baylor coach but other than that there is no upgrade.

If Herman loses to Kansas, he gotta go. Other than that you support him 100% so we can get best recruiting class possible. We need better talent even if he has a crappy year next year.

Hopefully, we win out and Bijan goes crazy in champ game while D harrasses the hell out of OUsux.

Hook em. And take your prozac.

Allow me to retort...fuck Tom Herman.

Vito Corleone
11-09-2020, 09:37 PM
Allow me to retort...fuck Tom Herman.

Poetry, pure poetry.

texas4ever
11-10-2020, 10:14 AM
Quotes from Ja'Tavion Sanders (24/7)

The five-star Denton Ryan athlete is on a mission to help the Raiders win a state title, and he's been committed to Texas for over a year. Despite losing a commitment from Sanders' teammate Billy Bowman a few months ago, Sanders said everything is good with his commitment.


"I'm feeling good with them right now," Sanders said. "I just love talking to them."

"They've been talking to me every day," Sanders said. "I talk with coach Giles and coach Herman."

At 6-foot-4, 220 pounds, Sanders is ranked as the No. 2 athlete in the nation and No. 2 overall prospect in Texas, according to 247Sports Composite.

texas4ever
11-10-2020, 10:17 AM
Texas offers 2022 DE Tyson Ford (Saint Louis, MO)

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https://247sports.com/Player/Tyson-Ford-46097287/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11413155/Tyson-Ford

texas4ever
11-10-2020, 10:21 AM
Per Anwar, Texas DT Keondre Coburn has a minor high ankle sprain, according to his sources.

He should be able to play vs. Kansas but they may hold him back for Iowa St.

texas4ever
11-10-2020, 10:36 AM
Its going to be slow with Herman on the hot seat. I believe LJ is favoring Aggie at the moment. If I was to guess it would be LB, Terrence Cooks, Pearland Shadow Creek.

https://247sports.com/Player/Terrence-Cooks-46086031/


Terrence Cooks will announce his commitment on Saturday.

pgardn
11-10-2020, 08:05 PM
Allow me to retort...fuck Tom Herman.


Poetry, pure poetry.

So both our current coordinators are not even close to Head Coach material?
There is no one from the NFL that could help us?

texas4ever
11-11-2020, 11:32 AM
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soldierhorn
11-11-2020, 12:30 PM
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Herman's MO: high on emotion and low on execution. With all that emotion, they still had a way too close of a game to a very mediocre WV team. After the Tech game, I mentioned the phrase "Good teams win ugly games". While that is still true, a good team doesnt produce a majority (or all) of ugly games; that becomes a matter of incompetent execution.

Juan Grande
11-11-2020, 12:41 PM
https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1326514956246929408

TheMex
11-11-2020, 01:32 PM
So TFloss now works at HornSports?

soldierhorn
11-11-2020, 03:34 PM
So TFloss now works at HornSports?

yep

Mitchlovell96
11-11-2020, 04:00 PM
Supposed to be somewhat of a coaching update on TFB anyone have it by chance?

soldierhorn
11-11-2020, 04:43 PM
Supposed to be somewhat of a coaching update on TFB anyone have it by chance?

More stating the obvious, IMO:
If they win (esp against ranked ISU at home) or win out, then change can be made in a year to ease financial concerns, but some BMDs want change regardless of season outcome.

My thought: This is going to be a defining decision process for CDC. Deloss couldnt/wouldnt pull the trigger on firing Mack when it needed to happen and the program suffered for years (and still suffers). Deloss wimped out and retired so someone else (Patterson) HAD to fire Mack. I dont think there is any love loss between CDC and TH so it's not the same in that regard but delaying the obvious could set the program back for years or ten years as it was with Mack.

Mitchlovell96
11-11-2020, 05:20 PM
Yeah imo it’s easy to say win out get to title game and it’s okay but another loss to ou to be 1-5 won’t sit well.

pgardn
11-11-2020, 07:20 PM
So TFloss now works at HornSports?

Dammit...

No offense to the guys trying to take up the slack.

texas4ever
11-11-2020, 07:35 PM
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texas4ever
11-11-2020, 07:37 PM
Yeah imo it’s easy to say win out get to title game and it’s okay but another loss to ou to be 1-5 won’t sit well.

Herman must win out to keep his job. IMHO

soldierhorn
11-11-2020, 08:38 PM
Herman must win out to keep his job. IMHO

agree. He could just as well lose to KSU and ISU but the next hurdle after KU will be a ranked ISU. And, lest we forget, Strong's Horns were a 24 pt favorite to beat KU in 2016 at Kansas.

Billybass
11-11-2020, 09:30 PM
Dammit...

No offense to the guys trying to take up the slack.

new mods are doing great job ! A certain antagonistic poster gets his posts
deleted in record time ! Haha

Texas4ever doing great job too ! I miss Tfloss as well, but new guys are not missing a beat.
Thank you !!!

Eastexhorn
11-11-2020, 09:42 PM
So both our current coordinators are not even close to Head Coach material?
There is no one from the NFL that could help us?
Maybe Pete C.

soldierhorn
11-11-2020, 09:43 PM
new mods are doing great job ! A certain antagonistic poster gets his posts
deleted in record time ! Haha
Texas4ever doing great job too ! I miss Tfloss as well, but new guys are not missing a beat.
Thank you !!!

And, without a beat you find a chance to lash out without provocation. "sports and recruitng": I guess attacking is considered a sport since your posts are not deleted

soldierhorn
11-11-2020, 09:44 PM
Maybe Pete C.

now, that would be interesting

Ballin42
11-11-2020, 09:55 PM
now, that would be interesting


he just signed an extension with Seattle

Billybass
11-11-2020, 10:07 PM
And, without a beat you find a chance to lash out without provocation. "sports and recruitng": I guess attacking is considered a sport since your posts are not deleted
There’s already been plenty of provocation. Have a good day sir

soldierhorn
11-12-2020, 12:02 AM
There’s already been plenty of provocation. Have a good day sir

not enough for you to keep at it. you are instigating and need to be moderated if moderation is to be fair

texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:10 AM
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texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:14 AM
Texas offers 2021 WR Keithron Lee (Bryan Rudder)

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https://247sports.com/Player/Keithron-Lee-46099854/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/10348732/Keithron-Lee

texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:22 AM
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https://247sports.com/Player/Gunnar-Helm-46098641/

texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:25 AM
Signing day was yesterday for other sports at Texas-

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texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:28 AM
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texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:32 AM
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texas4ever
11-12-2020, 11:00 AM
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soldierhorn
11-12-2020, 12:37 PM
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I'm not sure if this tweet is very clear to everyone: it's talking about draft prospects and not recruiting prospects. The implication should be there since the two mentioned are Cosmi and Ossai but still not very clear. Since this list is behind a paywall, I think they should list all the players on the list in the tweet. Additionally, I dont have the time or the interest in verifying the statement, "MOST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS; MOST IN THE BIG 12" so I'm going to assume it is correct.

ESPN Senior Writer Todd McShay released his updated 2021 NFL Draft rankings (link requires subscription) on Monday. To no surprise, Texas left tackle Samuel Cosmi was listed as the No. 13 overall player on McShay’s board.

This will surely solidify Cosmi as a first-round selection next April. If the expectations ring true, he would become the first Texas player selected in the first round since 2015.

13. Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas*
HT: 6-7 | WT: 313 | Grade: 90

Cosmi shows some quick feet for a big lineman and can redirect really well in pass protection. He isn't overpowering, but his hand placement is very good and he doesn't fall off many blocks. As a run-blocker, his angles are strong, and he frequently walks defensive linemen off the line. Cosmi has played both left and right tackle.

32. Joseph Ossai, ILB, Texas*
HT: 6-4 | WT: 253 | Grade: 88

Ossai does a little bit of everything, and does it all well. In seven games, the hybrid linebacker has 49 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 4.0 sacks, 3 forced fumbles and 2 passes broken up. He can play off the ball, can cover as an overhang and can blitz. He makes plays when he is turned loose upfield, thanks to good closing burst. And Ossai is instinctive as a pass-rusher and disciplined as a run defender.

Other Texas Longhorns on McShay’s list

No. 84- Caden Sterns, Safety
No. 124- Sam Ehlinger, Quarterback

soldierhorn
11-12-2020, 12:47 PM
I'm not sure if this tweet is very clear to everyone: it's talking about draft prospects and not recruiting prospects. The implication should be there since the two mentioned are Cosmi and Ossai but still not very clear. Since this list is behind a paywall, I think they should list all the players on the list in the tweet. Additionally, I dont have the time or the interest in verifying the statement, "MOST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS; MOST IN THE BIG 12" so I'm going to assume it is correct.
ESPN Senior Writer Todd McShay released his updated 2021 NFL Draft rankings (link requires subscription) on Monday. To no surprise, Texas left tackle Samuel Cosmi was listed as the No. 13 overall player on McShay’s board.
This will surely solidify Cosmi as a first-round selection next April. If the expectations ring true, he would become the first Texas player selected in the first round since 2015.
13. Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas*
HT: 6-7 | WT: 313 | Grade: 90
Cosmi shows some quick feet for a big lineman and can redirect really well in pass protection. He isn't overpowering, but his hand placement is very good and he doesn't fall off many blocks. As a run-blocker, his angles are strong, and he frequently walks defensive linemen off the line. Cosmi has played both left and right tackle.
32. Joseph Ossai, ILB, Texas*
HT: 6-4 | WT: 253 | Grade: 88
Ossai does a little bit of everything, and does it all well. In seven games, the hybrid linebacker has 49 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 4.0 sacks, 3 forced fumbles and 2 passes broken up. He can play off the ball, can cover as an overhang and can blitz. He makes plays when he is turned loose upfield, thanks to good closing burst. And Ossai is instinctive as a pass-rusher and disciplined as a run defender.
Other Texas Longhorns on McShay’s list
No. 84- Caden Sterns, Safety
No. 124- Sam Ehlinger, Quarterback

For argument's sake, I think Ossai can squeak into the first round if he continues to play as well as he has this season.

I think 13th is high for Cosmi and he had better start playing better if he is going to make it into the first round

At this point, I think it might be wishful thinking or luck of the draft (Sterns position relative to other Safeties in the draft) for Sterns to make it in the third round or higher. it will probably depend on how he shows at the combine and if he has the metrics to be drafted on potential. In the games, he looks slower than his posted 4.5 speed but that may be due to bad technique (poor first steps, pursuit angles, etc)

IMO, Ehlinger is going to have to prove in the pro days that he can make all the throws consistently to be drafted higher than the 5th round based on his performance so far this season

Trill Clinton
11-12-2020, 01:10 PM
I'm not sure if this tweet is very clear to everyone: it's talking about draft prospects and not recruiting prospects. The implication should be there since the two mentioned are Cosmi and Ossai but still not very clear. Since this list is behind a paywall, I think they should list all the players on the list in the tweet. Additionally, I dont have the time or the interest in verifying the statement, "MOST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS; MOST IN THE BIG 12" so I'm going to assume it is correct.

ESPN Senior Writer Todd McShay released his updated 2021 NFL Draft rankings (link requires subscription) on Monday. To no surprise, Texas left tackle Samuel Cosmi was listed as the No. 13 overall player on McShay’s board.

This will surely solidify Cosmi as a first-round selection next April. If the expectations ring true, he would become the first Texas player selected in the first round since 2015.

13. Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas*
HT: 6-7 | WT: 313 | Grade: 90

Cosmi shows some quick feet for a big lineman and can redirect really well in pass protection. He isn't overpowering, but his hand placement is very good and he doesn't fall off many blocks. As a run-blocker, his angles are strong, and he frequently walks defensive linemen off the line. Cosmi has played both left and right tackle.

32. Joseph Ossai, ILB, Texas*
HT: 6-4 | WT: 253 | Grade: 88

Ossai does a little bit of everything, and does it all well. In seven games, the hybrid linebacker has 49 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 4.0 sacks, 3 forced fumbles and 2 passes broken up. He can play off the ball, can cover as an overhang and can blitz. He makes plays when he is turned loose upfield, thanks to good closing burst. And Ossai is instinctive as a pass-rusher and disciplined as a run defender.

Other Texas Longhorns on McShay’s list

No. 84- Caden Sterns, Safety
No. 124- Sam Ehlinger, Quarterback

I'm surprised Sterns is that high on the list. He doesn't really do anything thing good or great tbh.

soldierhorn
11-12-2020, 01:30 PM
I'm surprised Sterns is that high on the list. He doesn't really do anything thing good or great tbh.

agree. He certainly is not living up to expectations but it may be moot at this point. Unless something clicks and he suddenly shows out the rest of the season, it's unlikely he'll get a third round or better NFL Draft grade, which is generally the deciding factor to leave early. Almost assuredly Cosmi and Ossai are gone if they continue as they have so far this season. Ehlinger is the only UT senior on this list so his fate is becoming clearer as the season moves on. However, the monkey-wrench thrown in is that players can have an eligibility bye this season so in theory, Ehlinger can come back next year if his draft grade is not good (and it wont be). Not to bang on the young man because he's been a GREAT Longhorn with a great heart but I think it's time to move on and see what Thompson, Card & JQJ can do.

Billybass
11-12-2020, 06:00 PM
This from the Inside Texas article:
Similarly, Texas has three bankable traits working for them every week. Their defensive line play, special teams, and Sam Ehlinger’s steady hand at the helm.

Now getting Ehlinger 63 carries over the last four weeks plus a bunch of extra hits in the pocket have paid an obvious price. Ehlinger missed some first half throws against West Virginia and is missing some burst when he runs, but he had zero turnovers against Oklahoma State or West Virginia while throwing for five touchdowns between the two of them. He’ll get a bye week and then Kansas to help him rest up for the final stretch of Iowa State, at Kansas State, and then potentially the Big 12 championship game with the possibility of another bye beforehand.

Even if he’s beat up though there are three things you get from Ehlinger when he’s on the field. Smart direction of the offense on the field, ball security, and tough inside running in short-yardage. Because all of those things come almost regardless of his relative health, it’s also easier to keep him on the field. A 60-70% Sam Ehlinger can still make a few plays in the air or on the ground while protecting the ball.

texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:23 PM
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texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:26 PM
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texas4ever
11-12-2020, 08:29 PM
Oh okay.

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bluetrumpet
11-14-2020, 07:04 PM
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Billybass
11-14-2020, 10:25 PM
Cooks picked Texas from a final group that included the Texas A&M Aggies (https://www.goodbullhunting.com/), Georgia Bulldogs (https://www.dawgsports.com/) and Oklahoma Sooners (https://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/).

texas4ever
11-15-2020, 09:02 AM
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pgardn
11-15-2020, 10:50 AM
Well that’s at least two kids that have chosen UT due to academics as it certainly can’t be for future stability of the football team. I welcome these kids. The best kind of student/athlete we could have.

Good deal.

Biggems
11-15-2020, 01:38 PM
Our O is so inconsistent cause our OL is Swiss cheese. If we had just a decent OL, we would be killing teams, even with our poor D......but our D would be better, cause they would potentially see fewer minutes and be more rested.

Ehlinger would be a top 3 Heisman candidate if we had an OL. He would have less issues with accuracy and consistency. His pitbull mentality will be missed. I hated him in HS, cause he beat my Rockets in the playoffs, but he is one of my favorite UT players ever......case of his fight and will to compete.

8-2 would be a very good year....both losses in OT. Win the Big 12 title and our bowl game...10-2.....with a shit OL, I will take that record everytime.

BTW, I want Sam to be drafted in the 4th or 5th round to be Dak's backup, well compete with Garrett Gilbert for the job....Dak, Garrett, and Sam would be sweet.....

texas4ever
11-15-2020, 02:05 PM
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texas4ever
11-15-2020, 02:09 PM
Texas offered the other day 2021 OL Remington Strickland (Fort Bend Christian)

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https://247sports.com/Player/Remington-Strickland-46055899/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9624425/Remington-Strickland

texas4ever
11-15-2020, 02:10 PM
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texas4ever
11-15-2020, 02:15 PM
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texas4ever
11-15-2020, 02:18 PM
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Billybass
11-15-2020, 02:43 PM
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I did not realize we still had a shot with Byrd. Man, it would be great to pull him !

texas4ever
11-15-2020, 05:11 PM
I did not realize we still had a shot with Byrd. Man, it would be great to pull him !

Not gonna happen.

Billybass
11-15-2020, 05:53 PM
Not gonna happen.

Yep probably not. I’m surprised we made his top 5.

Our oline recruiting is atrocious. All the instate possibilities this year, and to finish like this is just sad. It HAS to be fixed.

Eastexhorn
11-15-2020, 08:43 PM
Urban would fix it.

woofwoof
11-16-2020, 03:26 PM
Kids sign to play for a head coach, not assistants. IF this Urban dream were to come to fruition, I doubt that would be a reason why kids didn't come. Urbans name speaks for itself, doubt kids have heard of the other 2.

I also doubt it affects Urbana decision too much. If he wants to go after a 3rd at a 3rd school, nothing would stop him.

texas4ever
11-16-2020, 03:56 PM
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texas4ever
11-16-2020, 06:38 PM
https://youtu.be/9gV_Vs52rLM

pgardn
11-16-2020, 08:29 PM
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He does not Know why "it" (rumors) happen more at UT?
Holy shit, he had to know what he was stepping into. He did not understand the job.
Maybe Mack gave him the impression he could just catch a good wave and ride it in.
Well he has not found that wave. His recruiting has been very good and his teams have not. Now the recruiting part is getting difficult.

Its not that difficult.

All I can hope for is three consistently good solid wins in conference. The same type of win in the Big 12 championship.
Followed by another crushing bowl victory. Followed by Ewers recommitting. And then a landslide in recruiting and solid teams for eternity.

I dream of unicorns as well.

pgardn
11-17-2020, 09:26 PM
Oh and Sam Ehlinger is fine?

Then he is really not playing well.
Only so much can be blamed on the receivers who are not running routes correctly and not making tough catches.
Some of his throws against W.Va were absolute trash. Especially compared to early in the season.

Horns2319
11-18-2020, 10:23 AM
Bobby Burton joining IT

Juan Grande
11-18-2020, 11:12 AM
https://twitter.com/gkketch/status/1328458682745712640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

soldierhorn
11-18-2020, 11:18 AM
Bobby Burton joining IT

Not a big deal, IMO. BB hasnt been relevant in over 5 yrs and hasnt posted any real insight in a long, LONG time. It's going to be interesting to see how bobby fits in at IT; personally, I dont think he'll add very much.

IT bringing over Gerry Hamilton is a bigger deal, IMO and that wasnt posted here. 247 is not left with much now

Juan Grande
11-18-2020, 11:18 AM
A punter/kicker
https://twitter.com/SessumsColby/status/1328715090447753218

soldierhorn
11-18-2020, 11:19 AM
https://twitter.com/gkketch/status/1328458682745712640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

translation?

Ketchum should never be posted without context. There is a reason why Mack banned OB from team access.

Juan Grande
11-18-2020, 11:45 AM
A CB came in for Shemar Turner to A&M

But it also looks like we are about to flip Turner's teammate DT Byron Murphy (Baylor commit) - per Wiltfong and Roach
Inside Texas thinks this will help with Turner

Juan Grande
11-18-2020, 11:46 AM
translation?
Ketchum should never be posted without context. There is a reason why Mack banned OB from team access.

On Monday, Herman blamed a lot of his current problems on Orangefans

Here is part of what Burton said about that


Monday’s recruiting diatribe by embattled Texas coach Tom Herman is just more of the same. It’s a tired act. It’s everybody’s fault other than his own. We are to believe that it is the anonymous sources and writers who are at fault for Herman’s recruiting shortcomings and his inability to secure commitments from many of the state’s top offensive linemen, including two legacy prospects.




So let’s suspend reality for a moment. It had nothing to do with Herman’s lack of personal engagement or acumen in the recruitment. It had nothing to do with Herman not offering James Brockermeyer a scholarship at the same time as his brother Tommy, instead first talking to him about walking on. The loss of those prospects had nothing to do with Herman’s hiring and retention of OL coach Herb Hand, who is channeling his inner Mac McWhorter as one of the worst combinations of recruiters-evaluators to ever mentor at Texas.




It had nothing to do with a team’s listless on-field performance for much of the past two seasons. We should believe it’s anybody’s fault other than Tom Herman. Bemoaning the difficulty of a job, any job, is nothing more than an excuse, and nothing more than inner-recognition that you're not the right person for it. Excuses seem to abound for Herman. There's Covid. There's staff turnover, which is particularly inexplicable since Herman is the one who fired his initial hires. There's "winning is hard". So "anonymous sources" are now his latest excuse.

soldierhorn
11-18-2020, 11:55 AM
so... BB is explaining Ketch: now, that's rich.
What does that have to do with the tweet and how does that explain the tweet?

Juan Grande
11-18-2020, 01:17 PM
...But it also looks like we are about to flip Turner's teammate DT Byron Murphy (Baylor commit) - per Wiltfong and Roach
Inside Texas thinks this will help with Turner

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnH-u0tXcAIC4aG?format=jpg&name=small

Juan Grande
11-18-2020, 01:19 PM
... What does that have to do with the tweet and how does that explain the tweet?


You would have to understand the cat meme to begin with, and I am not getting into all that

texas4ever
11-18-2020, 01:55 PM
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https://247sports.com/Player/Byron-Murphy-II-46079959/

texas4ever
11-18-2020, 01:58 PM
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texas4ever
11-18-2020, 02:08 PM
Very solid pick up and it should help with Shemar.

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texas4ever
11-18-2020, 02:18 PM
Updated 24/7 Rankings-

https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

State of Texas: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=TX

texas4ever
11-18-2020, 03:39 PM
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TheMex
11-18-2020, 04:43 PM
Not a big deal, IMO. BB hasnt been relevant in over 5 yrs and hasnt posted any real insight in a long, LONG time. It's going to be interesting to see how bobby fits in at IT; personally, I dont think he'll add very much.

IT bringing over Gerry Hamilton is a bigger deal, IMO and that wasnt posted here. 247 is not left with much now

His piece this morning was already better than anything that he’s written in 247. Feels like 247 was holding him back.

rjv
11-18-2020, 05:02 PM
A CB came in for Shemar Turner to A&M

But it also looks like we are about to flip Turner's teammate DT Byron Murphy (Baylor commit) - per Wiltfong and Roach
Inside Texas thinks this will help with Turner

i think the one thing that may still be in A&M's corner is that their defensive front line is really coming together and is young. there may be some appeal to be a part of that development.

playblair
11-18-2020, 09:50 PM
south carolina mods say tom herman will give them a look & may take the job instead of waiting to be fired by texas..............

woofwoof
11-18-2020, 10:16 PM
south carolina mods say tom herman will give them a look & may take the job instead of waiting to be fired by texas..............


well bye lol although I doubt this to be true, he wouldn't get a buyout that way lol... I could be wrong on that though

playblair
11-18-2020, 11:20 PM
well bye lol although I doubt this to be true, he wouldn't get a buyout that way lol... I could be wrong on that though
burton confirmed it

Burton mentioned on IT about South Carolina and maybe Vandy as a possibility about him leaving even if he does win the big 12

Ballin42
11-19-2020, 08:12 AM
burton confirmed it

probably why CDC has been so hush hush, mutual agreement to part ways. Ultimately saving a buyout.

texas4ever
11-19-2020, 10:23 AM
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bluetrumpet
11-19-2020, 07:39 PM
1329581781503369216 (https://twitter.com/quinnewers/status/1329581781503369216?s=21)


doubt he’s going to switch his commitment now

Trill Clinton
11-19-2020, 07:44 PM
1329581781503369216 (https://twitter.com/quinnewers/status/1329581781503369216?s=21)

Smh

Dennis the Menace
11-19-2020, 11:29 PM
Let’s see what Urban can do

Kermit
11-20-2020, 07:31 AM
Fuck Tom Herman. Just fucking quit already.

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 05:07 PM
Texas offers 2022 QB Conner Weigman (Cypress Bridgeland). Time will tell, but more than likely the second best QB in Texas behind Ewers for 2022.

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https://247sports.com/Player/Conner-Weigman-46094199/

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 05:09 PM
IT Top 50 for 2022
As we say at Inside Texas, recruiting matters. In the case of the 2022 class, recruiting will matter a lot in a state absolutely loaded at the offensive skill positions.


There is not any doubt who the top overall prospect in the class is, Southlake Carroll quarterback Quinn Ewers. He’s the best natural passer the state has produced since Kyler Murray.


The wide receiver position is where the rankings will be looked at very closely, and will likely have plenty of movement in the next year with a number of prospects that are being nationally recruited, and will be or should be.


Without further adieu, IT releases the first Top 50 state rankings in the 2022 class.


1 Quinn Ewers, QB, Southlake Carroll
6-3, 205
Gerry Hamilton: Even in a very strong 2022 class, this one is a no brainer for No. 1 overall. The one-time Texas verbal literally has everything one looks for at the quarterback position, most importantly calmness under duress.


Eric Nahlin: Lively arm, sees the field, accurate, good enough athleticism to extend the play, or make one himself. On top of it, he’s a student of the game every bit as much as players who get by mostly on that trait alone.


IT links, you decide:
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11408015/Quinn-Ewers


2 Ernest Cooper, DE, Arlington Martin
6-5, 235
GH: Cooper is a can’t miss prospect due to the frame, agility, work ethic and intelligence. His play over the 2020 season has improved as well to feel confident about the ranking. Cooper can still improve his snap anticipation, and become more of a pass rushing force. Stanford leads large here.


EN: Same school as Myles Garrett but has the high floor and positional versatility of Solomon Thomas. Like Thomas, also loves Stanford. Impressive kid, on and off the field.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/9878202/Ernest-Cooper


3 Denver Harris, CB, North Shore
6-1, 180
GH: North Shore has had a number of tremendous defensive backs over the years, and to hear the staff say Harris is Chykie Brown with scheme versatility says a lot. And that is spot on. It’s more than just frame and athleticism, but the football smarts to be able to play bump man and zone.


EN: Unquestionably a first round NFL talent due to size, speed, and movement skills. Ball skills have improved since his sophomore year. An easy case can be made he’s the #2 player in the class but we’ll let it play out a bit more.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/12336249/Denver-Harris


4 Malick Sylla, DE, Katy High
6-6, 230
GH: Sylla’s best football is way out in front of him. His combination of frame, length, initial quickness and reactive quickness are elite on a national level. Sylla can win in the backfield with initial quickness, and disrupt passing lanes with length.


EN: I call him the Joseph Ossai version of Charles Omenihu. By that I mean he has Ossai’s freaky athleticism and wiry build, but will need some time to develop while growing into defensive end, just like Big Charles. Sylla has tremendous pass rushing upside.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/13621744/Malick-Sylla


5 Evan Stewart, WR, Frisco Liberty
6-0, 175
GH: If one is looking for a receiver that can take the top off a defense and tell one million TikTok followers how he did it, Stewart is your man. This is real quickness and speed in spades, that is also a productive player on Friday nights.


EN: A clear vertical threat schools will want to move around to hunt matchups. He’s also dangerous in the jet sweep game. If he gets the corner or a step he’s gone.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/10161731/Evan-Stewart


6 Harold Perkins, OLB, Cy-Park
6-3, 200
GH: Pound for pound, this may be the best athlete nationally in the 2022 class. A true freak athlete that ran a laser 4.49 on grass in mid-July at over 200-pounds. Perkins is more than just an athletic freak, however, he’s a quickly developing linebacker that plays with the physicality needed to be elite. He lacks only long arms from being a potentially special prospect.


EN: You can tell he’s a future star just by watching him at running back. I love running back as an evaluation tool for future linebackers but you don’t need it with Perkins. He’s can’t-miss athletically. As the game slows down for him he has unlimited potential.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11293369/Harold-Perkins


7 Bryan Allen Jr., S, Aledo (LSU commit)
6-0, 180
GH: The Aledo staff that has had many nationally recruited players come through over the years believes that the LSU verbal is elite, and I agree. Allen is smooth in his pedal, closes on the ball quickly, possesses long arms and good timing for leaving his feet to make a play on the ball.


EN: I’ve likened him to Michael Huff because he can cover or close from depth in a hurry. He can star in any scheme.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/6605887/Bryan-Allen-Jr


8 Devon Campbell, OG, Arlington Bowie
6-4, 295
GH: If the HUDL video and in person evaluation doesn’t do it, just turn on some hoops highlights and it’s easy to see why he’s coveted. The feet and agility at his size aren’t easily found. Soft spoken and nice when you meet him in person, but will bury you on Friday nights in the run game.


EN: Guards often get dinged from a value standpoint but that’s out the window with Campbell because he’s that awesome of a prospect. With guards you should ask yourself, could he play defensive tackle? The answer is a resounding yes when it comes to Campbell.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11329500/Devon-Campbell


9 Terrance Brooks, CB/N, John Paul II
6-0, 185
GH: After seeing Brooks in person in the summer and early in the season, I walked away convinced Brooks can play corner well at the next level. He is attached in coverage, physical, plays with his eyes and is nearly alway in position to make a play on the ball. NFL pedigree doesn’t hurt either.


EN: Good length, great athlete, and the corner ability is a bit of a revelation after being evaluated as a safety as a sophomore. Brooks’ recruiting profile should rise nationally.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11336637/Terrance-Brooks


10 Caleb Burton, WR, Del Valle
6-0, 165
GH: A fluid and smooth natural receiver that makes playing the position look effortless. Sometimes when a player has been on the radar as long as Burton, he slowly moves down the rankings. Not up in here! Only a negative return from a season ending knee injury could change thoughts on the Austin area star.


EN: He’s a complete receiver. He could be an outside home run threat, or if he wanted, a slot who was impossible to cover with safeties. I don’t think the knee injury will slow him down much with vertical routes being such a big component of his game.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/8583464/Caleb-Burton


11 Omari Abor, DE, Duncanville
6-4, 245
GH: Another prospect with his best football way out in front of him. After you get past the very high pad level, and start watching the agility and quickness with the frame he possesses, it’s not hard to see Abor developing into a top 5 prospect in the class a year from now.


EN: I think he eventually ends up an interior player and as I like to say, there’s tons of value in the spin. He’ll keep his movement skills as he slowly adds size and become a monster. That isn’t to say he couldn’t be a very good strong side defensive end.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11871536/Omari-Abor


12 Jaydon Blue, RB, Klein Cain
5-10, 200
GH: Having seen Blue in person on the practice field and on Friday night this season, he has a special pair of hands for a running back prospect. He’s got the big play ability at running back, but it’s the versatility in the passing game with 10.6 100-meter wheels that makes him an elite prospect.


EN: I love a pinball back who bounces and darts his way to open grass. Add in his quality hands and slot receiver movement skills, and he’ll have coaches adding a few pages to the playbook.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/4707942/Jaydon-Blue


13 Brenen Thompson, WR/ATH, Spearman
5-10, 165
GH: Whats not to like? Thompson has 10.2 100meter speed and works on a farm when he’s not scoring touchdowns or lapping the field at track meets.


EN: I think he’s going to end up at wide receiver because he’s too dangerous with the ball in his hands. He could be an exceptional defensive back, though, too.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11906981/Brenen-Thompson


14 Connor Weigman, QB, Bridgeland
6-1, 195
GH: The two-sport star is leading Bridgeland to an undefeated regular season with the ability to make plays with his arm and feet. He possesses more than functional athleticism at the position, and the arm talent to fit the ball in between safeties and corners; and the offers have been rolling in as more game tape has hit HUDL.


EN: I like baseball players because of the quick syncing of the lower and upper half — quick feet, quick release. They’re also used to throwing off balance or from different arm slots. Weigman has those goods along with middle infielder athleticism.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11377860/Conner-Weigman


15 Jordan Hudson, WR, Garland (Oklahoma commit)
6-1, 185
GH: The best set of hands in a loaded in state receiver class, and is very under valued after the catch. He has a knack for making the first and second defender miss after the catch. Hudson isn’t going to win on pure speed, but he will still win. Physical coverage doesn’t shake Hudson.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11568745/Jordan-Hudson


16 Bryce Anderson, S/N, West Brook (LSU commit)
5-11, 185
GH: Anderson is dabbling with the idea of trying to play QB at the next level, but his upside is at defensive back. This is a tremendous football player, period. He has DB versatility. Playing quarterback in a spread scheme at West Brook will only help him maximize as a defensive back.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/10584880/Bryce-Anderson


17 Neto Umeozulu, OG/T, Allen
6-5, 300
GH: Probably the most under valued talent in the 2022 class at this point. The junior season video is full of checked boxes. This guy is physical on contact showing initial pop/strength. He can run his feet and punish in the run game, is impressive moving his feet and playing in his hips in space and has body quickness in pass pro. If he maximizes his ability, he will play on Sundays.


EN: I think he could play tackle, but his ceiling at guard is extremely high. He wants to move people in the run, game but he’d be elite in pass pro from the interior.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/12384296/Neto-Umeozulu


18 Jamarion Miller, RB, Tyler Legacy
5-10, 185
GH: While Blue has the best hands and is the fastest of the running back prospects in the state in 2022, Miller has that East Texas toughness and has also shown the ability to line up at receiver and make plays this season. He should have 25+ offers at this point.


EN: Has similar versatility to Blue but he’s not quite as well known. That will probably change over time.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11809687/Jamarion-Miller


19 Kelvin Banks, OT, Summer Creek
6-5, 290
GH: Banks is an impressive technician with a very good frame and ideal 81-inch wingspan. He impressed in last weeks loss to North Shore with his ability to mirror. Banks is a physical run game finisher away from being elite nationally.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11699844/Kelvin-Banks-jr


20 P.J. Williams, OT, Dickinson
6-5, 240
GH: Williams may have the highest ceiling of any offensive lineman in the state. The frame has plenty of upside, the feet are that of a basketball power forward, the wingspan is 84-inches and the hands are over 10-inches. College coaches absolutely love to develop tackles like Williams.


EN: I’ve always been a fan of the grow’em template for offensive tackles. That is, find an athletic blank slate like Williams, and don’t even worry about weight because that’s the easiest thing to add.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11720124/Patrick-Williams-Jr


21 Armani Winfield, WR, Lewisville
6-2, 180
GH: Another smooth and natural at the position in the class. He can really track a ball in the air. Sneaky fast vertically. Can be a bit of a body catcher on vertical routes, which will be tested at the next level.


EN: He’s maybe the most effortless mover at the position in the state. Throw it out there and he’ll run underneath it. He should become a devastating route runner with deceptive speed.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/9977527/Armani-Winfield


22 Donovan Green, TE, Dickinson
6-4, 220
GH: Green has been the name at tight end in the class of 2022 for well over a year, but remember the name Kiyrin Heath (Mansfield Legacy) as one that could push Green. Green is more than a big time pass catching threat, as he has shown the willingness to get physical in the run game.


EN: He’s known as an athletic receiver but his want-to as a blocker could be what truly differentiates him from most tight ends.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11721798/Donovan-Green


23 Jaylen Early, OT/G, Duncanville
6-4, 275
GH: Arguably the best athlete among the OL prospects in the state in the class. Early is quick off the ball, following with a quick second step, needs only weight/strength to move defenders in the run game, and shows the ability to mirror in pass pro. He looks tiny lined up next to teammate Cameron Williams, but he’s not undersized for his age. Playing guard this season keeps him from shooting up the rankings.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11957436/Jaylen-Early


24 Cristian Driver, WR/ATH, Liberty Christian
6-0, 180
GH: The son of Donald Driver looked like a national recruit at defensive back as a sophomore, but prefers to play wide receiver at the next level. Driver has the physical tools to play WR at the next level, and there is little doubt will develop with an advanced understanding of how to play the position.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/10159024/Cristian-Driver


25 Trevell Johnson, ILB, Arlington Lamar
6-0, 200
GH: Decent size, but makes up for lack of ideal measurables with long arms and foot quickness. This is another physical defender for Bob Wager at Martin. Physicality, motor, intelligence and long arms is a really good combination for a linebacker.


EN: I think he’s a more athletic Terrell Bernard who is perfectly suited to defending the modern game. He’ll gladly stick his nose in between the tackles but plays with speed and pursuit to the sidelines as well.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11725090/Trevell-Johnson

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 05:10 PM
26 Landon Hullaby, DB, Mansfield Timberview
6-0, 185
GH: Flat out love Hullaby as a football player. He has defensive back versatility dependent on scheme. He could play corner in the right scheme, but is a better long term safety with the ability to cover like a nickel. Don’t sleep on Hullaby’s ability as a pass rushing DB. He has a little Kenny Vaccaro look to his game, and frame.


EN: This is what makes Hullaby interesting, I also wouldn’t rule out linebacker and his high school coach thinks his best position might be running back.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11274381/Landon-Hullaby


27 Chace Biddle, S, Garland
6-0, 190
GH: Really solid in run support with the ability to tackle one on one and pop from the safety position. Understands leverage, and run force technique. Speed is evident reactive to seeing the ball and closing on a ball carrier. Would like to see more plays on the ball, or opportunities to make plays on the ball.


EN: I love Biddle’s raw athleticism and range in the secondary. He should be a zone ball-hawk, or in man coverage, difficult to mismatch in the passing game.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11568704/Chace-Biddle


28 Kobie McKinzie, LB, Lubbock Coronado (Oklahoma commit)
6-3, 227
GH: Terrific size, arm length and frame allows for two options for success — OLB or DE. A physical player on contact, but not a “play is over” player on contact. The motor appears to be there to be a quality defender in major college football.


EN: Where he plays will make all the difference. If they try and shoe-horn him inside it will go poorly, if they play him on the edge, he could be special.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11480164/Kobie-McKinzie


29 Nicholas Anderson, WR, Katy High
6-3, 190
GH: I fully expect Anderson to be one that rises up the rankings in the next year. Not only does he possess very good feet and quickness for his size, but he’s arguably the most physical receiver in the class. Every step he makes is with purpose. Displays very good body control and ability to adjust to the ball. The younger brother of Rodney Anderson will rack up offers soon enough.


EN: Urgency is an underrated trait off the line of scrimmage. Purpose, urgency, same thing, and Anderson plays with it. I think his greatest value would be in the slot. Rare is the receiver who will do the dirty work.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11658115/Nicholas-Anderson


30 Bear Alexander, DT, Denton Ryan
6-3, 320
GH: Should Bear get enough snaps the remainder of the season, he will shoot up the rankings. This ranking has zilch to do with ability, but all about lack of varsity football the last year plus. The Denton Ryan staff will also develop Alexander physically and technically.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/14883948/Bear-Alexander


31 Stephon Johnson, WR, Lancaster
6-1, 175
GH: When talking to Margin Hooks about the many top flight receivers he trains, he always mentions Johnson within his top group. On tape, it’s easy to see why. Johnson flashes good initial quickness, and can stick his foot in the ground and burst to create separation. Where Johnson is better than many other receivers in this class is after the catch with burst and stop/start ability to maximize YAC. Snatches the ball out of the air with arms extended.


EN: He scores a couple of times on plays he had no business finishing standing up. Aside Stewart in the open field, Johnson may be the most dangerous outside receiver with the ball in his hands.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/10190062/Stephon-Johnson


32 Kam Dewberry, OG/T, Atascocita
6-4, 315
GH: Dewberry was the first OL name many heard about in the 2022 class as a freshman on a team with Texas A&M star Kenyon Green. While others have proven to have more upside to this point, Dewberry is a solid guard prospect with the length to play right tackle.


EN: Dewberry has a high floor and will be a multi-year starter wherever he goes. I think his NFL ceiling is at guard.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/10990841/Kam-Dewberry


33 Kristopher-Ryan Ross, DT, North Shore
6-3, 260
GH: Ross will be a brand new name for many, but I fully expect there to be 20+ offers in time after having watched him play in person vs. Summer Creek. Ross checks all the boxes when talking about frame, foot quickness, flexibility, arm length, physicality, academics and ability to be coached hard by a tremendous North Shore staff.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11322720/KristopherRyan-Ross


34 Jarred Kerr, ATH, Lexington
6-0, 180
GH: Kerr shined at the July elite Underclassmen Showcase that had a number of top 2022 skills players in Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas. He’s a wiry strong playmaker that could fit on either side of the ball long term due to high level ball skills and COD.


EN: I have him as a safety where his change of direction and ball skills will be best utilized, but he does have some plant-and-go to his running game.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11402963/Jarred-Kerr


35 Matthew Golden, WR, Klein Cain
6-0, 180
GH: Golden is one of the better football players I have seen in person this season. He’s a natural, sure handed, confident and tough-minded receiver that also returns punts, plays some wildcat QB and dabbles punting the ball. Golden should have 15+ offers by now, and it’s quite frankly ridiculous he doesn’t.


EN: GH has sold me on him. Golden uses all of his 6-foot catch radius to effortlessly catch the ball even if it’s inaccurate. If he had one more gear he’d have every offer in the country, but by no means is he slow. Natural mover, natural hands.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11298734/Matthew-Golden


36 Bobby Taylor, CB, Katy High
6-1, 180
GH: The son of former Longview, Notre Dame and Eagles star Bobby Taylor doesn’t lack confidence. He has the feet, smooth pedal, reactive quickness and physicality to play corner at a high level. He also has the height and wingspan.


EN: I’m not 100% sure but I’m decently confident Taylor can remain at cornerback in college. I think he moves well enough on top of the length and genes.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11444696/Bobby-Taylor


37 Jeremy Patton, OLB, Tenaha
6-2, 205
GH: After stopping by Tenaha to see Patton early in the season, he was a no brainer for the top 50. A legit 6-foot-2 with long arms, big hands, the frame to carry 230-pounds and the understanding that linebacker is his best position long term and this small school #bEastTexas playmaker is sure to see the offer list expand in the near future.


EN: Ten or twelve years ago Patton would have ended up starring at Missouri. We’d all wonder how he flew under the radar, especially after his Zapruder highlights were shown on a college telecast. He’s the quintessential East Texas kid. As a prospect he’s miscast as a wide receiver, but if you view him from a defensive standpoint, he’s a no-brainer four-star linebacker.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11229732/Jeremy-Patton


38 Cameron Williams, OT, Duncanville
6-6, 320
GH: Easy to get overshadowed playing on an offensive line with Savion Byrd and Jaylen Early, but Williams is very good in his own right. He has the best size/frame of the trio.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/12775268/Cameron-Williams


39 Jaylon Guilbeau, CB/N, Port Arthur (Texas commit)
6-0, 180


GH: Playing boundary corner, the Texas commit doesn’t get as much action as many other defensive backs in the class. The size and hands are there, as is the confidence. What we don’t get to see is make up speed and consistently being challenged to cover and run. Plenty of upside here though.


EN: Absent verified speed times or tape showing him truly opening it up, he’s still a bit of an unknown to me, but I do like if corner doesn’t work out, he has the mentality and physical specs for nickel.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/12085629/Jaylon-Guilbeau


40 Justin Medlock, LB, Manvel
6-1, 210
GH: Medlock plays the game with terrific vision and reactive quickness. There are bigger and faster linebackers, but this Houston area defender gets to the ball just as quick as any ILB in the class. Plays faster than he will likely test. Physical on contact. Closes on the ball under control.


EN: I’m a fan. I think he has RB-ish movement skills as well as good diagnosis and patience. He’s sort of the inverse of a running back. Beyond the #6, he reminds me a bit of UT’s Juwan Mitchell from a fit and movement standpoint.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/12596027/Justin-Medlock


41 Cole Hutson, OG Frisco High
6-4, 290
GH: Very good size and frame for a guard, only lacking an elite wingspan. Will hold up at point of attack, and look to hit and move defenders in the run game. Will add quite a bit of strength in the coming years.


EN: I think he has some tackle traits but the build screams guard. He should fare well whether in a zone or gap scheme. There’s some real upside here.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11950081/Cole-Hutson


42 Josh Hoover, QB, Rockwall-Heath
6-2, 205
GH: Stopped by Rockwall-Heath a year ago to see other prospects, and the staff went on and on about their young QB. They were spot on, as Hoover has the arm talent, feet, she and football pedigree to develop into a quality signal caller at the next level. The offers don’t yet match the talent level.


EN: This kid has a calm, smooth delivery but somehow powers it all over. You can tell when he wants to speed things up and really lay into it, he can. I think he’ll be higher up the list a year from now.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11295501/Josh-Hoover


43 Tavorus Jones, RB El Paso Burges
5-10, 180
GH: Solid all-around running back prospect. May not be able to point to anything he does great, but he’s good at a lot that makes a quality back. Quicker than fast.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11433319/Tavorus-Jones


44 Cade Klubnik, QB Austin Westlake
6-3, 178
GH: Cade is a solid QB prospect with arguably his best skill improvising and reacting to pressure. He’s more than a functional athlete at the position, but not a designed run play signal caller. Can’t underrate his toughness either. Sees the middle of the field well. Wish his stroke was more compact.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11576876/Cade-Klubnik


45 Demetrius Hunter, C/G, West Orange-Stark
6-3, 290
GH: Center is, and has always been, the most under rated position on a football field. You simply can’t maximize as an offense without a good one, so that makes ranking a center paramount. Hunter is the latest talented prospect out of Golden Triangle power W-O-S. He is both quick and powerful after the snap with the feet to pull and the attitude to punish.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11891604/Demetrius-Hunter


46 Austin Jordan, DB , Denton Ryan
5-11, 185
GH: Jordan is another versatile DB prospect in the class with good size and speed combo. Has DB versatility, which makes him attractive five as a prospect if he doesn’t stay at corner long term. Like the majority of Denton Ryan defenders, he plays with toughness.


EN: Originally on the radar as a corner but he looks like a good safety prospect to me. I’m not seeing the pure coverage ability you need for the island.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11398605/Austin-Jordan


47 Julian Humphrey, CB, Clear Lake
6-1, 185
GH: He may well test and run on the track faster than he reacts and plays on the football field. With that said, love the frame, length and upside here. And by the way, his father John Humphrey (Galveston Ball) is still one of the best pure football players the Houston area has ever produced.


EN: Love the speed and build, but is he going to grow into a safety, and if he does, will he bring the physicality necessary for that position? I think he’ll stick at corner, rendering those questions moot.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11463905/Julian-Humphrey


48 Chris Marshall, WR, Fort Bend Marshall
6-4, 195
GH: Chalk up another very talented wide receiver in the state in the 2022 class. This former basketball player is now proving to be a top notch WR prospect with good initial get off, quick feet in and out of cuts and the ability too snatch the rock out of the air, and do something after the catch.


EN: We could be moving him way up when we revisit these rankings in February but we’re just getting to know him now.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/15164292/Chris-Marshall


49 Ty Kana, ILB, Katy High
6-2, 210
GH: Any linebacker that plays at Katy High is going to be really well coached, so let’s get that out of the way. Kana has good height, the frame to carry 230+, is a downhill striker with the pop on contact to jolt a RB, and enough speed to pursue inside out. He does a good job of reading the triangle, and will not hesitate to take on pulling guards.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/11318610/Ty-Kana


50 Owen Pewee, OLB, Cy-Park
6-3, 190
GH: Long limbed, rangy and physical with wide receiver feet places Pewee in the Top 50. The offers don’t line up to the talent yet, but they will in time. Pewee’s best football is way out in front of him. Playing opposite Harold Perkins at Cy-Park is going to get a lot more eyes on him.


https://www.hudl.com/profile/10318838/Owen-Pewee

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 05:13 PM
1329476815707131908

playblair
11-20-2020, 05:20 PM
a wr commit from lsu is about to flip to texas

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 05:26 PM
Texas still wants

1329885212965212162

https://247sports.com/Player/JJ-Henry-46094146/

Neo.
11-20-2020, 06:13 PM
a wr commit from lsu is about to flip to texas
who

soldierhorn
11-20-2020, 06:50 PM
who

well, if it's JJ Earl, he's been rumored to be a flip candidate for a while.

playblair
11-20-2020, 07:06 PM
who
https://247sports.com/player/jack-bech-46058716/

Neo.
11-20-2020, 07:57 PM
https://247sports.com/player/jack-bech-46058716/

is there legit reason to believe this is the flip? or is it because on surlyhorns forum someone joked that its probably him instead of jojo?

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 08:29 PM
is there legit reason to believe this is the flip? or is it because on surlyhorns forum someone joked that its probably him instead of jojo?

Inside Texas vaguely hinted about a flip this Morning. Jack Bech makes sense because he does have a Texas offer. The Baylor rapeU crap going on at LSU right now might want him to get the hell out of dodge..

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 08:35 PM
1329929314800898051

texas4ever
11-20-2020, 08:41 PM
1329937831658201089

GregoryJim
11-20-2020, 10:32 PM
I’ll be up on Friday after turkey day rooting for Texas to crush Isu on way to first conf champ in long time. This will help with recruiting. Which gets better when u don’t have musical chairs coaches.

Meanwhile, half this board (and playbore) will be praying UT goes 0-3 so we can fire our coach so Urban Meyer nepotism can flower on the 40 acres.

Y’all are terrible fans. No real fans wants their team to lose.

If the boosters wanna spend zillions of dollars to get better they need to fix the conference. Bribe 4 state schools to join the conference and we will suddenly recruit better.

But our genius fans/boosters know that if you change the coach in a weak conference we will win a natty in no time. Just like Akers did, and McWilliams and macovich won nattys in the swc. And strong and Herman have been in the playoff in the big12-2. And just like Mack was great after agss, mizzou, buffs, corn left.

pgardn
11-21-2020, 10:36 AM
I’ll be up on Friday after turkey day rooting for Texas to crush Isu on way to first conf champ in long time. This will help with recruiting. Which gets better when u don’t have musical chairs coaches.

Meanwhile, half this board (and playbore) will be praying UT goes 0-3 so we can fire our coach so Urban Meyer nepotism can flower on the 40 acres.

Y’all are terrible fans. No real fans wants their team to lose.

If the boosters wanna spend zillions of dollars to get better they need to fix the conference. Bribe 4 state schools to join the conference and we will suddenly recruit better.

But our genius fans/boosters know that if you change the coach in a weak conference we will win a natty in no time. Just like Akers did, and McWilliams and macovich won nattys in the swc. And strong and Herman have been in the playoff in the big12-2. And just like Mack was great after agss, mizzou, buffs, corn left.

I would love to see the same outcome.
But without the same stupid mistakes and play that manages to still give us a win, or a loss. When you watch the games you cant be happy seeing the same stuff over and over. Especially if you watch other teams with less talent and more discipline and fundamentals.

As for playbore. He is an Aggie agitator that people on here are not familiar with. There was a reason Tfloss banned him. He eventually wants to moderate this board and then shit on it. Or turn it into a recruiting station for his own personal uses as illustrated by his solicitations for weird people wanting perverted things he can provide.

Eastexhorn
11-21-2020, 11:40 AM
First I do not know of any one wanting Texas to lose.
Second Akers played (team did) in championship game and except for a special team blunder Texas would have natty.
Third I want Tom gone only if a proven coach is available. Time will tell.

GregoryJim
11-21-2020, 12:28 PM
Akers actually had a chance to win 2 natl champs. 11-0 tx w earl lost in cotton bowl in 1977. (1st yr after Royal left). Then in ‘83 Akers/tx lost to Georgia costing a champ.

But fans were screaming the whole time to fire him. Texas had way more talent then. Offense was mostly run run boring. He went 9/3, 7/5, 9/3 before 83. And the swc sched was terrible. Tex kids were leaving for corn, Miami, FSU, ou cuz they were being told swc was little boy football.

texas4ever
11-21-2020, 05:11 PM
1330179046139977729

texas4ever
11-21-2020, 05:28 PM
1329828675886460928

https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Nwankpa-46086140/

texas4ever
11-21-2020, 05:32 PM
1329968759541551120

Biggems
11-22-2020, 10:16 AM
So, let's say we win out, OU wins out and ISU wins their last game......which 2 teams play for the Champioship?

ISU beat OU by 7
OU beat UT by 8
UT beat ISU

All three would be 8-2, 7-2 in conference

I wonder if they go by point differential like HS does....if so, we have to win by at least 8, if not 9.

texas4ever
11-22-2020, 10:37 AM
So, let's say we win out, OU wins out and ISU wins their last game......which 2 teams play for the Champioship?

ISU beat OU by 7
OU beat UT by 8
UT beat ISU

All three would be 8-2, 7-2 in conference

I wonder if they go by point differential like HS does....if so, we have to win by at least 8, if not 9.

If Texas wins out they would have the head to head win against Iowa St, so they would go over them. I think all 3 teams control their own destiny. Win out and you're in.

pgardn
11-22-2020, 11:05 AM
First I do not know of any one wanting Texas to lose.
Second Akers played (team did) in championship game and except for a special team blunder Texas would have natty.
Third I want Tom gone only if a proven coach is available. Time will tell.

I will give you one since you are relatively new.
playblair

pgardn
11-22-2020, 11:09 AM
If Texas wins out they would have the head to head win against Iowa St, so they would go over them. I think all 3 teams control their own destiny. Win out and you're in.

By that reasoning ISU would go in ahead of OU.
and OU would go in ahead of Texas. They would all have 2 losses? And one of those is circular amongst the three

Eastexhorn
11-22-2020, 11:45 AM
After watching Iowa St. dismantle K St. does not look good for Texas. Then with all the time off Tom might convince team its a bowl game. OU will be waiting to trounce the winner.

Juan Grande
11-22-2020, 02:08 PM
So, let's say we win out, OU wins out and ISU wins their last game......which 2 teams play for the Champioship?
ISU beat OU by 7
OU beat UT by 8
UT beat ISU
All three would be 8-2, 7-2 in conference
I wonder if they go by point differential like HS does....if so, we have to win by at least 8, if not 9.

In a 4-way tie, they use record against each other
And, if a 4-way tie, it means we beat ISU so we would be 2-1 and face ou also at 2-1

Texas 2-1
OU 2-1
ISU 1-2
Okie ST 1-2

texas4ever
11-22-2020, 02:40 PM
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texas4ever
11-22-2020, 02:49 PM
After watching Iowa St. dismantle K St. does not look good for Texas. Then with all the time off Tom might convince team its a bowl game. OU will be waiting to trounce the winner.

This game should be right in Herman's wheelhouse. It's the K state game on the road the following week we'd probably lose. I think you're right regardless, OU is starting to come together.

texas4ever
11-22-2020, 03:02 PM
AP Top 25:

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll?week=12

texas4ever
11-22-2020, 03:49 PM
1330611732474175491

Kermit
11-22-2020, 07:08 PM
I’ll be up on Friday after turkey day rooting for Texas to crush Isu on way to first conf champ in long time. This will help with recruiting. Which gets better when u don’t have musical chairs coaches.

Meanwhile, half this board (and playbore) will be praying UT goes 0-3 so we can fire our coach so Urban Meyer nepotism can flower on the 40 acres.

Y’all are terrible fans. No real fans wants their team to lose.

If the boosters wanna spend zillions of dollars to get better they need to fix the conference. Bribe 4 state schools to join the conference and we will suddenly recruit better.

But our genius fans/boosters know that if you change the coach in a weak conference we will win a natty in no time. Just like Akers did, and McWilliams and macovich won nattys in the swc. And strong and Herman have been in the playoff in the big12-2. And just like Mack was great after agss, mizzou, buffs, corn left.

Mrs. Herman, please convince your shitty husband to quit. Thank you.

Eastexhorn
11-22-2020, 10:19 PM
I will give you one since you are relatively new.
playblair

My mistake should have said I do not know anyTexas fan who would want the Horns to lose.

texas4ever
11-23-2020, 07:23 PM
WR Caleb Burton commits to Ohio State.

Ballin42
11-23-2020, 07:51 PM
This is getting comedic. Ohio state is killing everyone in Texas. Can’t be mad at em for taking advantage.

Trill Clinton
11-23-2020, 09:01 PM
Man its embarrassing that all the top talent in the state known for high school football is going to Ohio.

pgardn
11-23-2020, 09:49 PM
Man its embarrassing that all the top talent in the state known for high school football is going to Ohio.

A ton of good coaches have been produced in Ohio.
They have a good rep

TheMex
11-24-2020, 12:13 PM
Where is the rumor that Demond Demas may be hitting the transfer portal coming from?

Juan Grande
11-24-2020, 01:16 PM
The Big 12 Championship Game will be on Dec 19 at 11am in ABC

rjv
11-24-2020, 01:58 PM
Where is the rumor that Demond Demas may be hitting the transfer portal coming from?

I'll see if I can find out, but I have found it very curious that he has only seen spot minutes in garbage time on the playing field this season, especially when you consider that there have been several true freshman-including WRs-that have seen more significant PT.

texas4ever
11-24-2020, 02:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJQgdOT3h0

pgardn
11-24-2020, 07:22 PM
I'll see if I can find out, but I have found it very curious that he has only seen spot minutes in garbage time on the playing field this season, especially when you consider that there have been several true freshman-including WRs-that have seen more significant PT.

Aggie offense line and d line have been awesome.
They can run the ball very effectively, and if there are Fr WR ahead of him, thats not good for this season anyways.
Mond getting time has been huge for the Aggies.

texas4ever
11-24-2020, 07:48 PM
1331395956508684289

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 02:08 PM
1331607800359890946

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:16 PM
1331736889565523970

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:17 PM
1331735916520611846

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:19 PM
Has a Texas offer, but looks to be OU bound.

1331691824415694851

https://247sports.com/player/david-abiara-46079770/

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:20 PM
1331639346437517314

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:30 PM
1331417815933399041

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:31 PM
1331249283249680391

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:44 PM
1331736330590674944

texas4ever
11-25-2020, 06:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXDmSC3MroM

Neo.
11-27-2020, 02:55 PM
it blows my mind how incompetent this offense is in short yardage situations

elbamba1
11-27-2020, 03:12 PM
Or why the offense airs out a bad pass when Robinson can keep picking up cheap yards with 4 minutes to go. These coaches suck.

Trill Clinton
11-27-2020, 03:17 PM
Time for some good old Sam Tebow hero ball

bluebellmaniac
11-27-2020, 03:20 PM
Is Tom updating his resume on the sideline?

bluebellmaniac
11-27-2020, 03:34 PM
Hello Urban Meyer!

Neo.
11-27-2020, 03:35 PM
fire him. now.

Biggems
11-27-2020, 03:36 PM
Fuck you tom Herman

GAustex
11-27-2020, 03:37 PM
So typical
Out desired by lessor athletes
Such a terrible display by Entitlement U.

Kermit
11-27-2020, 03:38 PM
This program is a fucking joke. They’re going to fuck up the next hire too.

Trill Clinton
11-27-2020, 03:38 PM
Dummy should have taken the field goal

GAustex
11-27-2020, 03:38 PM
They are woke though

Biggems
11-27-2020, 03:38 PM
20 16......4th and 1.....either kick the fg to go up by 7 or put sam behind center and run qb sneak.....with our shitty OL the shot gun draw was a stupid call

Biggems
11-27-2020, 03:40 PM
They are woke though

Woke, a joke, championship broke

woofwoof
11-27-2020, 03:43 PM
Brennan Eagles played a great game, coaching staff did not. Que the "Urban Meyer reports"...

woofwoof
11-27-2020, 03:45 PM
Seems to me that Ossai is coming back (for some reason)... hopefully we get a coach who wants to win.

IvanDrago
11-27-2020, 03:47 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/VrhzpNfPkCiME/giphy.gif

Trill Clinton
11-27-2020, 03:49 PM
They are woke though

The coach isn't. Dude is asleep at the wheel every week.

IvanDrago
11-27-2020, 03:58 PM
They are woke though
Don’t be a twat. The players deserve better than Herman.

GAustex
11-27-2020, 04:03 PM
Don’t be a twat. The players deserve better than Herman.
The mediocrity runs through the entire institution

IvanDrago
11-27-2020, 04:08 PM
No doubt. And I’m the first to admit Texas fans are some of the worst.

But 95% of the teams would love to have the talent we have. Somehow smaller market teams field competent offenses and defenses without the advantages Texas has. Competent coaching is an excellent first step.

leemajors
11-27-2020, 04:26 PM
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bluebellmaniac
11-27-2020, 05:31 PM
I wonder if CDC has a hard candidate in mind. I'm thinking he does. Always have a plan and a backup plan. He's on it.

GAustex
11-27-2020, 05:45 PM
“It’s five star culture versus five star (over rated pampered entitled) players”

Vito Corleone
11-27-2020, 05:51 PM
Maybe this game was Campbell's interview?

Truth is I'm fast losing interest in sports, I didn't watch a minute of the game but I did tune in for the last 2 minutes of the game on the radio. Herman has small man's syndrom, he tries too hard to out think his opponent and be a tough guy that he makes him self out to look like an idiot. Think about all the stupid tough guy shit he does, think about all the bone headed play calling he does. Who the hell goes for it on 4th down up by only 4 pts when you can kick a field goal and go up by 7. He is a bad coach with psychological issues. He will be fired and he only has himself to blame. He was not ready for this job and it showed in his mismanagement of his team, his staff, and himself.

If Blair is right, Texas is going to have to pull a true rabbit out of a hat to find a coach to get us back on top.

texas4ever
11-28-2020, 12:36 PM
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texas4ever
11-28-2020, 12:38 PM
1332538503683510272

https://247sports.com/Player/Conner-Weigman-46094199/

texas4ever
11-28-2020, 12:42 PM
1332482894921654272

texas4ever
11-28-2020, 12:43 PM
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texas4ever
11-28-2020, 12:46 PM
IT from yesterday after the game:

Per a very good source that was the end of the Herman era for all intents and purposes.


I do not know when the official call will be made and I won’t handicap Scenario 1 at this time.


If Urban Meyer does decide he wants the job, his Fox duties don’t end until 12-19.

soldierhorn
11-28-2020, 12:56 PM
IT from yesterday after the game:
Per a very good source that was the end of the Herman era for all intents and purposes.
I do not know when the official call will be made and I won’t handicap Scenario 1 at this time.
If Urban Meyer does decide he wants the job, his Fox duties don’t end until 12-19.

Some people think that if it's Meyer, then Herman will be fired on or soon after 1St of December (when his buyout goes down by $5mil). And, if it's not UM, then it could be a january hiring since the best candidates are still coaching

Vito Corleone
11-28-2020, 03:27 PM
At the very least, Texas fans can be happy that they aren’t Michigan.

Not by much.

pgardn
11-28-2020, 03:36 PM
it blows my mind how incompetent this offense is in short yardage situations

The middle 3 on the oline line are flat out awful.
Kerstetter is out of position. And Okafor and Angulau are just awful.

pgardn
11-28-2020, 03:40 PM
They are woke though


Woke, a joke, championship broke

These are horrible joke excuses.
Nick Saban led his team in a giant WOKE "parade" through Tuscaloosa.
Boy has it screwed BAMA up. EVERY college team has had problems with this stuff.

Now if you are saying Herman is not tough enough on players and pampers them thats a whole different topic than this "joke of a woke" excuse.
Yeah, only UT experienced this... BS. We have a coach who cannot teach any sort of consistency.

Ex.

Last drive Johnson almost forgets to get to the first down marker by making a move backwards, then actually gets the first down and somehow gets out of bounds. Did anyone fkcing tell him about the time and to get the first down first. You were FORTUNATE to make it out of bounds. A play or two later he tries the SAME damn thing and does not get out of bounds and has no way of getting the first down. NO ONE told him to get the fck out of bounds no matter what, go sideways, whatever? Did Sam tell him? Did the team leader tell him? Or is he just dumb (no he is not). Yes its fundamentals, yes its repetition, but it is also about understanding time management during the last two minutes. EVERYONE should know how far their route is if it need to be cut off to get back in place;, dont let someone lay on top of you, get the fck up and get set on the line, on and on... THIS SHOULD be built into a team who has seen close games for almost the entire season.

No, its the woke stuff... what a crock. Its COACHING football, not social rubbish.

pgardn
11-28-2020, 03:57 PM
They are woke though


At the very least, Texas fans can be happy that they aren’t Michigan.

Or Arkansas, just because... its Arkansas.

Billybass
11-28-2020, 05:03 PM
Tom had his chance. He’s not the guy. Time to move on.

Urban Meyer brings a lot of baggage. Good and bad baggage.

He is a proven winner, and if he comes here, will probably bring a natty. We will have to put up with his shit. But I’m sick of losing. I hope we sign him

ProgramaticNonFit
11-28-2020, 05:47 PM
IT from yesterday after the game:

Per a very good source that was the end of the Herman era for all intents and purposes.


I do not know when the official call will be made and I won’t handicap Scenario 1 at this time.


If Urban Meyer does decide he wants the job, his Fox duties don’t end until 12-19.

If Bird Flippin Herman is canned and UM is hired, do you think that Ewers will flip back to the good guys?

soldierhorn
11-28-2020, 07:43 PM
If Bird Flippin Herman is canned and UM is hired, do you think that Ewers will flip back to the good guys?

There would be plenty of time for anyone in the 2022 class to flip, esp if Longhorns show good improvement in the 2021 season with better leadership. The immediate concern is the 2021 class, which is very disappointing at the moment

texas4ever
11-28-2020, 08:29 PM
Another name being thrown out there today is Mario Cristobal at Oregon. However, IMO it's all in on one guy and there's no thought of second place at the moment.

Dennis the Menace
11-28-2020, 08:45 PM
You place as much $$$$ on the table until Meyer can’t say no. We’ll find out if this is actually a Football School or not.

soldierhorn
11-28-2020, 09:21 PM
I posted this on another board with a longer list...

My first phone call & offer would be to...

#1 Kyle Shanahan: Offer him whatever he is making at SanFran (8 digits) and make him say no. I would prefer Kyle over Meyer. I dont think he would accept at this point but he only has a .466 winning percentage in the NFL and that's including the 13-3 super bowl run; so far 2019 looks like an anomaly. I love his offenses.

#2 Urban Meyer. Just stating the obvious.

texas4ever
11-29-2020, 12:52 PM
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bluebellmaniac
11-29-2020, 02:06 PM
1333091036781027330

Yeahhhhh, think I'll just opt out for the rest of the season. Good luck guys.

leemajors
11-29-2020, 05:39 PM
Yeahhhhh, think I'll just opt out for the rest of the season. Good luck guys.

No reason to risk injury for nothing

Ballin42
11-29-2020, 06:52 PM
This has been strangely hush hush. Normally you would hear rumblings or team meetings being held.

bluebellmaniac
11-29-2020, 06:52 PM
No reason to risk injury for nothing

I like Cosmi. Just a sad statement on the current mindset of the team and that Herman lost them a while back. It's sad seeing a team collapse like this. Hopefully from these ashes will rise a stronger, more resilient team.

texas4ever
11-29-2020, 08:16 PM
This has been strangely hush hush. Normally you would hear rumblings or team meetings being held.

This is how you want things right now. From what I'm reading out there, I'd bet we all will hear something by this time next week, one way or the other on what UM is going to do. My gut says, if he wants to Coach again, the job is his for the taking. Money is no issue at all.

texas4ever
11-29-2020, 08:23 PM
I'm sure for recruiting purposes UM will want to hit the ground running ASAP to salvage the class. So, if he is going to be the Coach we'll know something PDQ.

Herman has his weekly PC tomorrow and if that goes on as planned CDC is probably still waiting on an answer. This is all speculative on my part.

texas4ever
11-29-2020, 08:25 PM
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texas4ever
11-29-2020, 08:30 PM
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woofwoof
11-30-2020, 12:42 AM
I'm going to take a wait and see approach, Saban was ready to come when Mack didn't leave and that fed the whole situation. Best for us, nosey ppl to keep the chatter down, IF, this is really going to happen.

Shelley Meyer is a teacher, I believe at OSU. And I looked through her Twitter, didn't see anything yet. We will know shortly

soldierhorn
11-30-2020, 02:08 AM
I'm going to take a wait and see approach, Saban was ready to come when Mack didn't leave and that fed the whole situation. Best for us, nosey ppl to keep the chatter down, IF, this is really going to happen.
Shelley Meyer is a teacher, I believe at OSU. And I looked through her Twitter, didn't see anything yet. We will know shortly

Taking a wait and see approach is prudent. Regardless what is being reported, a done deal hasnt been announced

texas4ever
11-30-2020, 08:13 AM
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texas4ever
11-30-2020, 08:53 AM
TFB and Nahlin said offer is up to 12mil per for 5 years.

Dennis the Menace
11-30-2020, 09:20 AM
TFB and Nahlin said offer is up to 12mil per for 5 years.

What’s an extra mill gonna hurt to these fat cats? Push it to 15 per.

Ballin42
11-30-2020, 09:35 AM
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Ballin42
11-30-2020, 10:05 AM
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Billybass
11-30-2020, 10:05 AM
Wonder how that offer compares with Jimbo, Saban, etc..

texas4ever
11-30-2020, 10:34 AM
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texas4ever
11-30-2020, 10:35 AM
IT is also saying 10mil per for his staff. Like I said, money will not be an issue.

texas4ever
11-30-2020, 10:37 AM
Wonder how that offer compares with Jimbo, Saban, etc..

It would make him the highest paid coach in the history of Collage Football, I believe. I think Dabo makes 8mil.

texas4ever
11-30-2020, 10:41 AM
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texas4ever
11-30-2020, 10:45 AM
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Here's Feldman's article:

Full disclosure: I work with the former Ohio State head coach at FOX on our “Big Noon Kickoff” show.


Meyer is the elephant in the room when it comes to potentially huge coaching openings, and there could be one coming open this winter at Texas. Tom Herman is near the end of his fourth season at Texas, and the Longhorns are nowhere close to being a top-10 team. And despite a strong second season when they finished No. 9, it’s been very underwhelming.


After last season, Herman fired most of his staff — many of whom he brought with him from Houston — but the results haven’t been much better. A loss last Friday at home to Iowa State dropped Herman to 7-7 in his last 14 games. The feeling is this program should be better than it is now, and recruiting is backsliding. It would take $15 million-plus to move on from Herman, not to mention the cost of parting with the coaching staff.


People with knowledge of the matter say the UT brass is prepared to move on from Herman, but where they’d go next is the really intriguing part. Herman’s old boss, Meyer, is the wish candidate. He won national titles at Florida and at Ohio State and wasted little time getting them there. The 56-year-old does have health concerns, and those were a real factor in him walking away from a plum job in Columbus. Does he still want badly to be on the sidelines?


Here’s my read on the situation: It’s really, really, really hard for coaches who walked away on top to stay away — especially someone as wildly competitive as Meyer is. In Texas, you have a big job in a conference that appears ripe for the taking. This certainly isn’t the meat grinder that is the SEC. There are some parallels to how watered down the Big Ten was back when Meyer first showed up in Columbus. Meyer also has a good window into what’s going on inside at Texas and the personnel there given his former defensive coordinator Chris Ash now runs the Longhorns defense. Texas has great resources and a hefty recruiting base that Meyer did well mining when he was at Ohio State.


All that said, Meyer has taken to TV really well. He is extremely engaged in our show and very passionate about it — maybe as much as any analyst that I’ve worked with in TV. He genuinely cares about the show and takes great pride in the presence he has as a commentator on the sport, so I could definitely see him staying committed to that. I’ve worked with some former coaches who moved into TV and they essentially went through the motions, coasting on their name and personalities. That is definitely not Meyer or how he’s transitioned to it here.


I don’t know this for certain, but I suspect there are moments when he’s tempted by the prospects of being back in it as a coach, striving toward building and running a powerhouse being wired for how all-consuming that is. And then there probably are other days when he’s very comfortable with his situation now.

Billybass
11-30-2020, 11:05 AM
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Man...who would have thought when the season began, we would be sitting here with two meaningless games to play, completely out of the conference championship conversation.

Kermit
11-30-2020, 11:35 AM
Man...who would have thought when the season began, we would be sitting here with two meaningless games to play, completely out of the conference championship conversation.

That’s how it usually goes for Texas.

Trill Clinton
11-30-2020, 12:33 PM
Man...who would have thought when the season began, we would be sitting here with two meaningless games to play, completely out of the conference championship conversation.

I thought that

rjv
11-30-2020, 03:14 PM
Where is the rumor that Demond Demas may be hitting the transfer portal coming from?

the Demas situation is still pretty strange; he was not suited up for Saturday's game and when asked all Fisher stated was that Demas was made unavailable for the game but that the reason was not due to injury or illness; it was also stated that Demas is not in the portal at this time. This situation definitely bears watching though.

texas4ever
11-30-2020, 03:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohH3kpMdU6g

texas4ever
11-30-2020, 05:52 PM
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pgardn
11-30-2020, 06:52 PM
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He had already opted out even though he was on the field.

playblair
11-30-2020, 07:21 PM
something big is happening tomorrow
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woofwoof
11-30-2020, 08:53 PM
something big is happening tomorrow
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Wishing, and hoping, and dreaming, and praying....


We shall see... very anxious to see if Texas and all the kings horses can get in a row.

ProgramaticNonFit
11-30-2020, 08:56 PM
something big is happening tomorrow
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Maybe we're rehiring Mack Brown from UNC again? Swweeeeeettttt!!!!!!!!!

GAustex
11-30-2020, 09:20 PM
Just got off the phone with my Pops who lives in Gainesville FLA. Big U of F fan.

My 2 sibs went there-me i am a UT grad.

I told him UT gonna hire Urban.

He said most folks around U of F don't care for Urban.

Just saying what they say in Gainesville.

Horns2319
11-30-2020, 09:21 PM
something big is happening tomorrow
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They do annual Nuclear Winter piece on Dec 1. That’s what that is hinting to.

Juan Grande
11-30-2020, 09:23 PM
https://twitter.com/austonianews/status/1333516521101004807

Billybass
11-30-2020, 09:49 PM
Just got off the phone with my Pops who lives in Gainesville FLA. Big U of F fan.

My 2 sibs went there-me i am a UT grad.

I told him UT gonna hire Urban.

He said most folks around U of F don't care for Urban.

Just saying what they say in Gainesville.

I bet they like that natty, actually both nattys

GAustex
11-30-2020, 09:52 PM
I bet they like that natty
At the time yes. Urban wore out his welcome as time wore on.

Billybass
11-30-2020, 10:03 PM
At the time yes. Urban wore out his welcome as time wore on.

We all know going in, the guy can be a pain in the ass. But he has skins on the wall. And he will win here also, if he comes. I’m so sick of losing, I am willing to put up with his shit. I have forgot what it’s like to beat Oklahoma, or to be in serious conversation for a national title. If he comes here, that changes immediately.

woofwoof
11-30-2020, 10:05 PM
At the time yes. Urban wore out his welcome as time wore on.

So did Mack... problem is complacency is an issue... don't think it matters as long as you win especially at Texas and especially right now as we are eerily close to 2 decades of mediocrity, at best.

Das Texan
11-30-2020, 11:25 PM
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Longhorns secondary just got better, tbh.

DMX7
11-30-2020, 11:38 PM
I really didn't want Herman to get fired this season but it's hard to defend the end result of this season.

texas4ever
12-01-2020, 12:28 PM
IT is saying that if Urban decides not to come, then Texas' clear #2 is an current NFL coach. The ball is still in Urban's court, but UT can't sit idle just in case the health concerns are too much for him to take the job.

texas4ever
12-01-2020, 12:33 PM
I really didn't want Herman to get fired this season but it's hard to defend the end result of this season.


At the end of the day Herman did all of this on his own. Herman wasn't ready to be the head coach at Texas and the majority of the fan base was wrong about him being the next big thing. I know I was.

texas4ever
12-01-2020, 01:29 PM
The current NFL Coach is not Shanahan.

Shinerbock
12-01-2020, 02:08 PM
The current NFL Coach is not Shanahan.

Eric Bieniemy is mentioned as #2

Vito Corleone
12-01-2020, 03:34 PM
Eric Bieniemy is mentioned as #2

That is real interesting, one of my high school teammates played at Colorado with Bieniemy. I'll have to hit him up on this one.

DMX7
12-01-2020, 03:34 PM
I'm not excite about any NFL coach to best honest.

Vito Corleone
12-01-2020, 04:26 PM
Bieniemy if I remember correctly was a witch of a recruiter at USC and at Colorado. If I was going to offer a huge contract to an NFL guy I'd start a little closer to the top with John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, and Mike Tomlin. If Urban says no there is a lot more time to pick and chose the right guy.

benefactor
12-01-2020, 05:43 PM
Eric Bieniemy is mentioned as #2
He's probably waiting on Houston tbh. He wants to be an NFL head coach

pgardn
12-01-2020, 08:27 PM
At the time yes. Urban wore out his welcome as time wore on.
When Urban stopped winning and things got too wild (this would exacerbate any illness), all the articles about his problems and his complete failure to pick kids who were not hardened criminals came forth. Along with his suspending minor squad team players for minor infractions to show what a fine disciplinarian he was.
Wore out his welcome... okay... The Florida press was not nearly so kind. They opened him up like a Florida tuna.

I would still like to know more about the Reese Letaio situation and our wide receiver carrying a weapon to a disturbance came to some settlement (will Austin open Herman up when he gets fired like Orlando and Gainesville did to Urban?) Then the assistant coach with Herman and Urban lying constantly to his AD and the BiG. (Columbus media was a bit nicer, but still gave him a blow to the groin)

I bet Urban could get Ewers back if he turns on the religious piety to just the right channel and gets the proper assistants. But Urban is going to want control, and to get that, he will have to convince some people he has learned a lot through all of his mistakes. I am pretty sure Urban can convince the right people if he really wants to. What he accomplished at Ohio St. in such a short period of time was as good as any in the history of college football for a rerun.

Kermit
12-01-2020, 08:40 PM
They’re not going to pay Urban what’s been reported and not give him total control. That dude has Texas right where he wants them.

texas4ever
12-01-2020, 08:53 PM
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texas4ever
12-01-2020, 08:55 PM
He's probably waiting on Houston tbh. He wants to be an NFL head coach

I've always thought he is a good candidate to be a NFL Coach. He'll be better there than in collage, IMO.

texas4ever
12-01-2020, 08:59 PM
I'd be surprised if Texas plays another game this year.

KTABTX
12-01-2020, 09:43 PM
Anyone have cliff notes from the latest Urban update on 247?

KTABTX
12-01-2020, 09:47 PM
Nm Got it

Quick Urban Meyer

ChipBrown247

Three-time national championship coach Urban Meyer is still weighing whether he wants to get back into coaching, two sources close to the situation told Horns247.com Tuesday.
The sources said Meyer, who is 56 and has an arachnoid cyst on his brain lining that has caused him health issues, is struggling with whether he wants to put himself and his family through the stress of taking on another big-time job after building national championship teams at both Ohio State (2014) and Florida (2006, 2008).
Meyer, who coached at Ohio State from 2012-18 and at Florida from 2005-10, is currently working as an analyst on FOX's Big Noon Kickoff college football show, which runs through Dec. 19.
One source close to Meyer told Horns247 last week the only three jobs Meyer would get back into coaching for are Texas, USC and Notre Dame. That source said Tuesday Meyer might be leaning "60-40" toward not coaching again.
"That's a guess," the source said. "But he's pretty happy right now. His health is a big factor."
Horns247 has reported there is a group of big-money donors at Texas who would be interested in pursuing Meyer if UT was to make a change from current coach Tom Herman, who served as Meyer's offensive coordinator at Ohio State in 2014, when the Buckeyes won the national title.
According to sources, UT's donors are hoping to hear from Meyer soon about if he's interested in coaching again.

Three-time national championship coach Urban Meyer is still weighing whether he wants to get back into coaching, two sources close to the situation told Horns247.com Tuesday.

bluebellmaniac
12-01-2020, 09:58 PM
I'd be surprised if Texas plays another game this year.

It's as good an excuse as any to shut it down.

Dennis the Menace
12-01-2020, 10:03 PM
$15 mill per year and call it a day. There’s a famous quote that goes like “Everyone has a price.”

DMX7
12-01-2020, 10:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohH3kpMdU6g

Question: Where do you think the standards should be for this program?

Herman: "The standard should be…to be in the conversation, and to be competing for conference championships in the month of November and December."

That is NOT the standard... To be in the conversation? Give me a break. The standard he was hired for was to win conference championships and to compete for a national championship.

GAustex
12-01-2020, 11:24 PM
When Urban stopped winning and things got too wild (this would exacerbate any illness), all the articles about his problems and his complete failure to pick kids who were not hardened criminals came forth. Along with his suspending minor squad team players for minor infractions to show what a fine disciplinarian he was.
Wore out his welcome... okay... The Florida press was not nearly so kind. They opened him up like a Florida tuna....

Your characterization is how I understand it- how the press turned on him. You left out, intentionally or not, his personnel issues with his marriage which got messy and public-if I recall correctly.

texas4ever
12-02-2020, 11:48 AM
I never cut and paste stuff straight from other sites, but it's getting tossed back and forth from every site now. I'll do so also in regards to the search of a new Coach. From Orangebloods:

This is still a story that we're working to gain meaningful details on, but I do want to confirm that we have been told by a source with connections to the current Texas Board of Regends that chairman Kevin Eltife met with Urban Meyer in Columbus for what is being described as the "first" meeting with Meyer in discussions about him becoming the next Texas head football coach.


Eltife, who is from Tyler, flew back to Tyler this morning.


We're still chasing details from the meeting, but it seems like a very important step in the conversations between both parties has occurred.


The ball remains in Meyer's court. We'll keep you posted as details emerge.


In the meantime, it's probably important to learn about Eltife because a source this morning tells me that he's as important to this approach to Meyer as Chris Del Conte is. While one source told me last night that Del Conte is driving the bus, I was told this morning that Eltife is as critical to all of this as anyone.

https://www.utsystem.edu/board-of-regents/current-regents/kevin-p-eltife

texas4ever
12-02-2020, 11:56 AM
Same stuff from Inside Texas:

According to a high-ranking official at The University of Texas, Urban Meyer is mulling a return to coaching.


Open issues that remain are his health and whether or not he is convinced that his hard-charging approach is “still relevant in the new era of player personal freedom.”


This report comes immediately following a trip returning from Columbus to Austin of a UT emissary less than 30 minutes ago.


Meyer’s health concerns have been mentioned previously. His approach has not.


Again, it remains a fluid situation, one where we could see twists and turns and misdirection until Tom Herman is dismissed.

texas4ever
12-02-2020, 12:01 PM
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