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TFloss32
06-23-2020, 12:25 PM
DT Albert Regis (La Porte)
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https://247sports.com/player/albert-regis-46050920/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/10025324/Albert-Regis
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 12:25 PM
TCU receives a commitment from OL Jacoby Jackson of Mansfield Summit.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jacoby-Jackson-46059509/
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 12:35 PM
From the offer board...
CB Jaylin Davies (Santa Ana, CA)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jaylin-Davies-46056063/
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 01:02 PM
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TFloss32
06-23-2020, 01:05 PM
Another name to keep in mind on the OL is Ezra Oyetade from Garland Lakeview Centennial.
Inside Texas reported a few days ago that he and Coach Hand had a face-to-face meeting online.
https://247sports.com/Player/Ezra-Oyetade-46096582/
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 01:08 PM
New workout video from QB Hudson Card.
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TFloss32
06-23-2020, 01:10 PM
My bad if already discussed, but CB Jamier Johnson of Pasadena, CA is scheduled to make his commitment on July 3rd.
Wiltfong of 24/7 thinks Texas is in this one, and they could be the surprise choice.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jamier-Johnson-46079629/
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 02:03 PM
CB Anthony Cook has officially left the team, per Inside Texas.
CB Anthony Cook has officially left the team, per Inside Texas. anyone find out why. Hopefully not a life changing issue.
bluetrumpet
06-23-2020, 03:39 PM
Is Juwan Mitchell out as well?
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 04:52 PM
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TFloss32
06-23-2020, 04:52 PM
Is Juwan Mitchell out as well?
No official reports that I've seen.
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 04:53 PM
My bad if already discussed, but CB Jamier Johnson of Pasadena, CA is scheduled to make his commitment on July 3rd.
Wiltfong of 24/7 thinks Texas is in this one, and they could be the surprise choice.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jamier-Johnson-46079629/
Inside Texas believes UT is running third here behind ASU and Oregon.
texbound
06-23-2020, 05:26 PM
Inside Texas believes UT is running third here behind ASU and Oregon.
Whaaaaattttt? IT doubts the Fong?
woofwoof
06-23-2020, 08:08 PM
https://twitter.com/kitejere/status/1275070986195353608?s=21
I know this is a football room but we have a new basketball commit
TFloss32
06-23-2020, 09:39 PM
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Bloeddyr10
06-24-2020, 04:45 AM
Center Michael Myslinski of Bishop Kenny High School (Jacksonville, FL.) visited Austin over the weekend to check out the city and campus, per 24/7.
https://247sports.com/player/michael-myslinski-46086430/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/10974224/Michael-Myslinski
TFloss32
06-24-2020, 11:54 AM
2022 CB Jaeden Gould (Oradell, NJ)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jaeden-Gould-46081131/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11116973/Jaeden-Gould
TFloss32
06-24-2020, 12:21 PM
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texas4ever
06-24-2020, 12:49 PM
Center Michael Myslinski of Bishop Kenny High School (Jacksonville, FL.) visited Austin over the weekend to check out the city and campus, per 24/7.
https://247sports.com/player/michael-myslinski-46086430/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/10974224/Michael-Myslinski
Looks like more and more contingency plans for the Brocks popping up lately.
texas4ever
06-24-2020, 12:51 PM
Another name to keep in mind on the OL is Ezra Oyetade from Garland Lakeview Centennial.
Inside Texas reported a few days ago that he and Coach Hand had a face-to-face meeting online.
https://247sports.com/Player/Ezra-Oyetade-46096582/
Have we offered this guy? If not, he needs one like yesterday regardless of who's on the big board ahead of him. Film looks good, IMO.
Have we offered this guy? If not, he needs one like yesterday regardless of who's on the big board ahead of him. Film looks good, IMO.
247 has him the #1 Center. Yeah his film looks real good. He should be a take regardless.
TFloss32
06-24-2020, 05:17 PM
Have we offered this guy? If not, he needs one like yesterday regardless of who's on the big board ahead of him. Film looks good, IMO.
Not publicly, but at least he and Coach Hand are communicating now.
The staff may be moving silently here as to not rock the Brockermeyer boat, even though Alabama looks like the favorite.
TFloss32
06-24-2020, 05:20 PM
2022 RB Jaylen Thompson (Playa Del Rey, CA)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jaylen-Thompson-46081271/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11059500/Jaylen-Thompson
pgardn
06-24-2020, 08:45 PM
Not publicly, but at least he and Coach Hand are communicating now.
The staff may be moving silently here as to not rock the Brockermeyer boat, even though Alabama looks like the favorite.
Give them an out that is more understandable because we need those kids.
Not publicly, but at least he and Coach Hand are communicating now.
The staff may be moving silently here as to not rock the Brockermeyer boat, even though Alabama looks like the favorite.
You would think they could have first hand knowledge with big brother there
TFloss32
06-25-2020, 12:25 PM
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TFloss32
06-25-2020, 12:32 PM
You would think they could have first hand knowledge with big brother there
I think the staff understands the twins are trending Alabama, but at the same time they possibly don't want to give the appearance they've moved on by publicly recruiting other players.
I wouldn't mind that approach though, especially James seeing other center prospects offered.
TFloss32
06-25-2020, 12:43 PM
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TFloss32
06-25-2020, 01:11 PM
Big loss for Duncanville, if true.
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TFloss32
06-25-2020, 01:20 PM
Per The Football Brainiacs, DE/LB D'Marion Alexander of China Spring was in touch with Coach Giles before de-committing from Minnesota earlier in the week.
He believes the staff is working on an offer, and he is somehow related to former Texas WR Quan Cosby.
https://247sports.com/player/dmarion-alexander-46085395/
TFloss32
06-25-2020, 02:20 PM
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TFloss32
06-25-2020, 05:31 PM
Recruiting dead period now running until August 31st.
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TFloss32
06-26-2020, 12:39 PM
Per The Football Brainiacs, DE/LB D'Marion Alexander of China Spring was in touch with Coach Giles before de-committing from Minnesota earlier in the week.
He believes the staff is working on an offer, and he is somehow related to former Texas WR Quan Cosby.
https://247sports.com/player/dmarion-alexander-46085395/
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TFloss32
06-26-2020, 01:15 PM
2022 TE Jake Johnson (Watkinsville, GA)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Johnson-46052164/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11378446/Jake-Johnson
TFloss32
06-26-2020, 02:50 PM
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TFloss32
06-26-2020, 06:54 PM
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pgardn
06-26-2020, 08:35 PM
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Obvious question
Where do we stand with this fellow?
We need all the LBs we can get.
IvanDrago
06-27-2020, 06:38 AM
Obvious question
Where do we stand with this fellow?
We need all the LBs we can get.
I don’t think we even recruited him with any seriousness. Obviously talented player but questionable character and off the field issues.
pgardn
06-27-2020, 09:18 AM
I don’t think we even recruited him with any seriousness. Obviously talented player but questionable character and off the field issues.
thanks
it said we had recruited him but I just didn’t remember
Welp...
Eastexhorn
06-27-2020, 02:01 PM
More baggage than Evans.LB room is very full at this time IMO.
TFloss32
06-27-2020, 04:11 PM
WR Teddy Knox (The Woodlands)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Theodore-Knox-46048091/
TFloss32
06-27-2020, 04:11 PM
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TFloss32
06-27-2020, 04:12 PM
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TFloss32
06-27-2020, 04:47 PM
Baylor picks up DT Byron Murphy II of DeSoto.
https://247sports.com/Player/Byron-Murphy-II-46079959/
TFloss32
06-27-2020, 04:50 PM
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TFloss32
06-27-2020, 06:11 PM
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TFloss32
06-27-2020, 06:58 PM
Former Galena Park North Shore DB to Tech.
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TFloss32
06-27-2020, 08:35 PM
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TFloss32
06-29-2020, 12:20 PM
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TFloss32
06-29-2020, 12:30 PM
2022 DT Tyre West (Tifton, GA)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Tyre-West-46083347/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11197911/Tyre-West
TFloss32
06-29-2020, 12:43 PM
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TFloss32
06-29-2020, 01:45 PM
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Jimmiemac
06-30-2020, 11:37 AM
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TCU
TFloss32
06-30-2020, 01:59 PM
My bad if already discussed, but CB Jamier Johnson of Pasadena, CA is scheduled to make his commitment on July 3rd.
Wiltfong of 24/7 thinks Texas is in this one, and they could be the surprise choice.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jamier-Johnson-46079629/
Wiltfong from 24/7 just put in a Texas crystal ball for Johnson.
He is committing on Friday.
TheMex
06-30-2020, 02:19 PM
Wiltfong from 24/7 just put in a Texas crystal ball for Johnson.
He is committing on Friday.
Did he push back his commitment? Waiting for Oregon or what? So confused
pgardn
06-30-2020, 04:22 PM
Wiltfong from 24/7 just put in a Texas crystal ball for Johnson.
He is committing on Friday.
Please...
Harvey88210
07-01-2020, 12:20 AM
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jalon-Williams-46085246/
texbound
07-01-2020, 01:25 AM
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jalon-Williams-46085246/
That's an interesting offer. I figured the Horns would be done at CB if Johnson commits this Friday (signs are pointing that way). I figured Mukuba would be it for the DB haul. Maybe they feel Bowman is better suited for the offense and feel they need another DB in class with the departure of Cook. Anyway you look at it, the Horns are sitting pretty good and crowded at DB for the foreseeable future, even if Green leaves after this year.
Jamison (unless he has a breakout year), Watson, Josh Thompson, Boyce, Caldwell, Crawford, Barron, Ibraheem, Johnson at CB. Foster, Adimora, Estell, Alford, Jerrin Thonpson, Coffey and Mukuba at S and NB. That's a lot of bodies for 2021. I could easily see Boyce and Estell grad transferring out.
Randolph Duke
07-01-2020, 09:17 AM
In the off chance anyone is interested in the Under Armor/ UCLA issue, here is an article offering a bit more background.
Bottom line - While Nike, Adidas, etc moved their product offerings to more "athleisure," UA stuck with the traditional competition-focused product line and supported it with team/ superstar endorsements. UA is trying to cut ties to its pre-COVID endorsements (where it can) and redirect the newly available cash (if any). This is part of that process.
https://www.sportico.com/2020/business/sponsorship/under-armour-fights-ucla-1234608270/
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TFloss32
07-01-2020, 10:45 AM
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TFloss32
07-01-2020, 12:00 PM
From the offer board...
ATH Jaylin Smith (Mission Hills, CA)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jaylin-Smith-46093610/
TFloss32
07-01-2020, 12:12 PM
WR Adonai Mitchell (Antioch, TN)
Mitchell played at Fort Bend Ridge Point in 2018 before moving to Tennessee.
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https://247sports.com/Player/Adonai-Mitchell-46085140/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/7958990/Adonai-Mitchell
TFloss32
07-01-2020, 12:12 PM
Did he push back his commitment? Waiting for Oregon or what? So confused
I haven't seen anything yet that says he's pushing his decision back.
TFloss32
07-01-2020, 12:24 PM
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https://247sports.com/Player/Denver-Harris-46081216/
TFloss32
07-01-2020, 12:34 PM
From the offer board...
Five-star CB Tony Grimes of Virginia Beach, VA has committed to North Carolina.
https://247sports.com/Player/Tony-Grimes-46048912/
TFloss32
07-01-2020, 01:02 PM
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Trill Clinton
07-01-2020, 01:04 PM
We done at the QB position for '21? Kyron Drones has impressed at the elite 11 camp and he's waiting on a UT offer.
TFloss32
07-01-2020, 01:16 PM
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TFloss32
07-01-2020, 01:17 PM
We done at the QB position for '21? Kyron Drones has impressed at the elite 11 camp and he's waiting on a UT offer.
Texas should be done.
All-in on Ewers for 2022.
Bloeddyr10
07-01-2020, 03:41 PM
I haven't seen anything yet that says he's pushing his decision back.
I think I saw his coaches wanting him to push back his decision because he hasn't visited his other two finalists/leaders yet (Texas and Colorado). But he seems pretty set on committing on Friday.
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This year has sucked sucked sucked.
TFloss32
07-02-2020, 11:59 AM
Roach from 24/7 added a Texas crystal ball for CB Jamier Johnson of Pasadena, CA.
https://247sports.com/player/jamier-johnson-46079629/
TFloss32
07-02-2020, 12:07 PM
From the offer board...
DE Dallas Turner (Fort Lauderdale, FL)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Dallas-Turner-46051516/
TFloss32
07-02-2020, 12:17 PM
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SlickStreet
07-02-2020, 12:27 PM
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aggie gonna aggie. Bear Bryant--many say he fled the scene before a&m got hit by the NCAA way back then. Gene Stallings (well prior to his 'Bama stint) admitted "DKR had me by the throat (due to violations) and let me up."
Then of course Jackie Sherrill--one of the most well-known cheaters in college football. Some things under his successor and former head assistant, RC Slocum, and then you get a guy like Fisher, who had something of a checkered past and now has this to contend with in response.
pgardn
07-02-2020, 12:35 PM
aggie gonna aggie. Bear Bryant--many say he fled the scene before a&m got hit by the NCAA way back then. Gene Stallings (well prior to his 'Bama stint) admitted "DKR had me by the throat (due to violations) and let me up."
Then of course Jackie Sherrill--one of the most well-known cheaters in college football. Some things under his successor and former head assistant, RC Slocum, and then you get a guy like Fisher, who had something of a checkered past and now has this to contend with in response.
Slocum was basically ok.
But leaving out Dennis Franchione... got to stick him with the worst. Not as bad as Sherrill, but a big liar.
pgardn
07-02-2020, 12:40 PM
Aggie:
Everyone does it, but we get caught.
texbound
07-02-2020, 01:23 PM
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I wonder who the recruit is. ATM had to end its recruitment of the prospect and can't recruit any kid from HS until 2023. Please let it be LJ Johnson
TheMex
07-02-2020, 01:25 PM
I wonder who the recruit is. ATM had to end its recruitment of the prospect and can't recruit any kid from HS until 2023. Please let it be LJ Johnson
Anybody from a big time high school plz.
TFloss32
07-02-2020, 02:29 PM
Posting this here because it's team info, but please go to other thread if you want to debate.
LB De'Marvion Overshown says he is done with playing and all team activities, but no mention of a transfer to another school.
I guess we'll see soon if there are any scholarship implications here since this is an unprecedented situation.
DesignatedT
07-02-2020, 02:45 PM
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If all that was uncovered after a two-year investigation was 7-extra hours of practice time in the Spring of 2018 (Jimbo's first spring), and a phone conversation with a sophomore recruit (have to be a junior), than I would say he's either running a cleaner program than I thought or covering his bases pretty damn well tbqh. Apparently, one of the guys heading this investigation was the former AD at Florida State and has had it out for Jimbo. IIRC, this all stemmed from allegations of a former player (Santigo Marichoil) who transferred to Arizona after Jimbo's practices were "too hard" and was later kicked off the Arizona team by Sumlin.
TFloss32
07-02-2020, 03:18 PM
Posting this here because it's team info, but please go to other thread if you want to debate.
LB De'Marvion Overshown says he is done with playing and all team activities, but no mention of a transfer to another school.
I guess we'll see soon if there are any scholarship implications here since this is an unprecedented situation.
OrangeBloods says he is not on campus.
soldierhorn
07-02-2020, 04:34 PM
OrangeBloods says he is not on campus.
It's been reported that he hasnt shown up for weeks. This was DMO's year to finally live up to expectations. He hasnt done it so far and dosent look like he is focused on doing it now.
SlickStreet
07-03-2020, 08:09 AM
Slocum was basically ok.
But leaving out Dennis Franchione... got to stick him with the worst. Not as bad as Sherrill, but a big liar.
Slocum was somewhat disarming with his folksy nature. I don't think he was horrible, but not nearly as shiny as some might have thought.
Franchione, I kind of forgot about; I don't know that he was that sordid, but he certainly had some questionable things about him. I just never got quite enough clarity on the guy. I know someone who's loosely termed as "friends" with him, and he has a few questions too still.
I certainly didn't respect the way he left 'Bama.
pgardn
07-03-2020, 08:58 AM
Posting this here because it's team info, but please go to other thread if you want to debate.
LB De'Marvion Overshown says he is done with playing and all team activities, but no mention of a transfer to another school.
I guess we'll see soon if there are any scholarship implications here since this is an unprecedented situation.
Welp...
He doesn’t want to play then on to a LB transfer I’m hoping.
pgardn
07-03-2020, 09:03 AM
Slocum was somewhat disarming with his folksy nature. I don't think he was horrible, but not nearly as shiny as some might have thought.
Franchione, I kind of forgot about; I don't know that he was that sordid, but he certainly had some questionable things about him. I just never got quite enough clarity on the guy. I know someone who's loosely termed as "friends" with him, and he has a few questions too still.
I certainly didn't respect the way he left 'Bama.
His extra money via his booster first policy with ATM
Ask the TCU people how they felt about his stint.
He has a long rap sheet imo
ATM will hire Satan for laughs
bluetrumpet
07-03-2020, 05:15 PM
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Nice add but wish we could step it up with the WR’s, LB’s, and lineman. Things seem to be moving slowly with the pandemic going on.
Eastexhorn
07-04-2020, 01:07 PM
Yes four OL would be nice and if room a DT.
soldierhorn
07-04-2020, 01:55 PM
Is Blake trolling the Longhorn fan base?
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Vito Corleone
07-05-2020, 12:20 AM
Yes four OL would be nice and if room a DT.
Unless we have major attrition, DT is a wasted scholarship this year. Better to save the offer for next year.
Eastexhorn
07-05-2020, 10:56 AM
Unless we have major attrition, DT is a wasted scholarship this year. Better to save the offer for next year.
You coulg be right. DT is in short supply this recruiting cycle. However I donot belive in saving ships.Get best player you can at needed position and let him start getting experence.
I donot look for much attrition short if any season.
texbound
07-05-2020, 11:46 AM
Unless we have major attrition, DT is a wasted scholarship this year. Better to save the offer for next year.
Agree with this, but that Regis kid really intrigues me, much like Ojomo did. Ojomo was extremely young and raw, but you could see something. Regis is kind of similar from a raw standpoint. He is just extremely athletic and fast, the kind you don't see very often in a 300lb guy. I would absolutely take him and develop for 2 years down the road.
Vito Corleone
07-05-2020, 11:52 AM
You coulg be right. DT is in short supply this recruiting cycle. However I donot belive in saving ships.Get best player you can at needed position and let him start getting experence.
I donot look for much attrition short if any season.
As much as I want to believe this, with all the things happening who knows what is going to happen. I mentioned this because we have 1 senior and about 8 solid DTs in the system. Including the 3 we just got last cycle. What we need desperately are DEs and linebackers including some Jucos.
soldierhorn
07-05-2020, 12:45 PM
As much as I want to believe this, with all the things happening who knows what is going to happen. I mentioned this because we have 1 senior and about 8 solid DTs in the system. Including the 3 we just got last cycle. What we need desperately are DEs and linebackers including some Jucos.
The way I see the depth chart, Texas has 4 DTs right now (Coburn, Ojomo, Broughton, SG-W) and two of those are true freshmen. They could use a JUCO 3-Tech running a 4-man front UNLESS the coaches think that an upperclassman DE (Graham?) can be moved inside if they have gained enough good weight in the off season. You need more than 4 DTs for a decent rotation using a 4-man front; two soph and two true freshmen are not enough to battle an experienced OL. IMO, if true freshmen are the linchpins that hold a position together, then either you have future NFL phenoms or you have a real problem.
I see 9 Defensive ends right now. Obviously some DEs (possibly Collins) are going to have to become DTs at some point but that depends on weight gain and if they can keep their speed with added weight. Using Collins as an example, if he gains weight up to about 285 and can maintain his speed, he will stay outside. If he blows up to between 285 and 300 and loses a step or two, then he will be moved to 3 tech. Heavier than 300 and he will likely be moved to NT.
texbound
07-05-2020, 01:14 PM
The way I see the depth chart, Texas has 4 DTs right now (Coburn, Ojomo, Broughton, SG-W) and two of those are true freshmen. They could use a JUCO DT running a 4-man front UNLESS the coaches think that an upperclassman DE (Graham?) can be moved inside if they have gained enough good weight in the off season. You need more than 4 DTs for a decent rotation using a 4-man front; two soph and two true freshmen are not enough to battle an experienced OL. IMO, if true freshmen are the linchpins that hold a position together, then either you have future NFL phenoms or you have a real problem.
I see 9 Defensive ends right now. Obviously some DEs (possibly Collins) are going to have to become DTs but that depends on weight gain and if they can keep their speed with added weight. Using Collins as an example, if he gains weight up to about 285 and can maintain his speed, he will stay outside. If he blows up to between 285 and 300 and loses a step or two, then he will be moved to 3 tech. Heavier than 300 and he will likely be moved to NT.
I really hope Collins maintains DE weight and speed and stays there. He has that rare combination of speed, quickness, strength and long arms that could make him elite...kind of reminds me of Julius Peppers. He will be special on the outside. However, you never know with kids and late growth. He could very well end up inside, but I'm hoping he doesn't.
soldierhorn
07-05-2020, 01:24 PM
I really hope Collins maintains DE weight and speed and stays there. He has that rare combination of speed, quickness, strength and long arms that could make him elite...kind of reminds me of Julius Peppers. He will be special on the outside. However, you never know with kids and late growth. He could very well end up inside, but I'm hoping he doesn't.
I agree. I think Collins can be elite if he can keep the bad weight down. Another added dimension to this is his mentality and I dont know about that of course. A LOT of DEs see themselves as edge rushers and dont want to be moved inside so they can be double-teamed every play to free up someone else (LB).
Eastexhorn
07-05-2020, 04:43 PM
The way I see the depth chart, Texas has 4 DTs right now (Coburn, Ojomo, Broughton, SG-W) and two of those are true freshmen. They could use a JUCO 3-Tech running a 4-man front UNLESS the coaches think that an upperclassman DE (Graham?) can be moved inside if they have gained enough good weight in the off season. You need more than 4 DTs for a decent rotation using a 4-man front; two soph and two true freshmen are not enough to battle an experienced OL. IMO, if true freshmen are the linchpins that hold a position together, then either you have future NFL phenoms or you have a real problem.
I see 9 Defensive ends right now. Obviously some DEs (possibly Collins) are going to have to become DTs at some point but that depends on weight gain and if they can keep their speed with added weight. Using Collins as an example, if he gains weight up to about 285 and can maintain his speed, he will stay outside. If he blows up to between 285 and 300 and loses a step or two, then he will be moved to 3 tech. Heavier than 300 and he will likely be moved to NT.
You sir have been studing the depth chart Some times I wonder if some ever look at it.
Inside Texas list Warren as a DT. LBS are so plentyful you need more than two hands to countthem.
Since this is 2021 class we are talking about IMO the bigest need is OL.
soldierhorn
07-05-2020, 07:49 PM
You sir have been studing the depth chart Some times I wonder if some ever look at it.
Inside Texas list Warren as a DT. LBS are so plentyful you need more than two hands to countthem.
Since this is 2021 class we are talking about IMO the bigest need is OL.
That makes sense, on the actual team roster, Warren is now listed as 6'2 290... so,yeah, I'm sure he is moving inside. Unless he's an all-time great, it's hard to keep your DE speed at 290 or above and he's only a RS freshman so he's almost certainly going to gain more weight.
VC might be correct, in that they might have 8 DTs going into August camp. I was going off of last year's depth chart but taking a quick look at this year's roster weights, four DEs were/are at 285 and heavier:
So Carson 285
Sr Graham 300
So Sweat 335
RSF Warren 290
pgardn
07-05-2020, 09:24 PM
Good stuff fellows.
thanks.
Eastexhorn
07-05-2020, 09:26 PM
I belive Sweat played at DT
last season. Graham played at DE. Will all shake out in time.
Team is pretty well balanced except at LB way too many and OL not near enough.
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:41 AM
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TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:43 AM
1279755121895837698
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:44 AM
1279920788599169025
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:44 AM
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TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:47 AM
CB Latrell McCutchin (Austin LBJ)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Latrell-McCutchin-46055188/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:52 AM
OU also landed the #1 rated QB in the nation over the weekend.
https://247sports.com/Player/Caleb-Williams-46040610/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 11:57 AM
From the offer board...
CB DJ Harvey (Chatsworth, CA)
1279506458053206016
https://247sports.com/Player/DJ-Harvey-46077129/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 12:03 PM
1279505816362483713
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 12:04 PM
WR Latrell Neville (Fort Bend Hightower)
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https://247sports.com/player/latrell-neville-46054704/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 12:18 PM
From the offer board...
DE Keanu Koht (Vero Beach, FL)
1279467602566352902
https://247sports.com/Player/Keanu-Koht-46085419/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 12:36 PM
2022 CB Domani Jackson (Santa Ana, CA)
1279432479963615238
https://247sports.com/Player/Domani-Jackson-46057101/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 01:24 PM
A bunch of chatter out there that WR Dekel Crowdus of Lexington, KY is giving Texas a hard look right now.
https://247sports.com/Player/Dekel-Crowdus-46056791/
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 01:39 PM
Hope everyone had a nice 4th.
Mitchlovell96
07-06-2020, 03:40 PM
Anyone have the 247 update on overshown?
TFloss32
07-06-2020, 05:51 PM
Anyone have the 247 update on overshown?
It was a non-update.
Texas officials in touch with him about potential changes, nothing new.
TFloss32
07-07-2020, 12:31 PM
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TFloss32
07-07-2020, 12:31 PM
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TFloss32
07-07-2020, 12:44 PM
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TFloss32
07-07-2020, 12:48 PM
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Hookem79
07-08-2020, 10:40 AM
Happy for Latrell! I played ball against his dad in high school.
pgardn
07-08-2020, 12:43 PM
One guy I completely forgot about that if back to health is Jordan Wittington.
Cant wait to see this guy catch or run the ball is space. I would use him out of the backfield as well.
We could have a very potent offense if we have an actual season.
TFloss32
07-08-2020, 03:36 PM
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TFloss32
07-08-2020, 03:44 PM
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TFloss32
07-08-2020, 03:47 PM
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pgardn
07-08-2020, 09:29 PM
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Where is Oklahoma in that list if his backfield mate is going to OU?
TFloss32
07-09-2020, 11:57 AM
Where is Oklahoma in that list if his backfield mate is going to OU?
From what I have read, third at best.
TFloss32
07-09-2020, 11:58 AM
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TFloss32
07-09-2020, 12:00 PM
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https://247sports.com/player/casey-cain-46082635/
TFloss32
07-09-2020, 12:05 PM
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TFloss32
07-09-2020, 12:08 PM
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TFloss32
07-09-2020, 12:15 PM
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TFloss32
07-09-2020, 01:33 PM
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pgardn
07-09-2020, 01:52 PM
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Impressive.
TFloss32
07-09-2020, 03:05 PM
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Vito Corleone
07-09-2020, 06:33 PM
So if the SEC only played conference games, does that mean they have a 7 game season?
TheMex
07-10-2020, 12:05 AM
So if the SEC only played conference games, does that mean they have a 7 game season?
They’re about to fuck with Aggy easy schedule.
leemajors
07-10-2020, 07:52 AM
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I think it is every conference but the Big 12 and SEC now going conference only.
soldierhorn
07-10-2020, 08:35 AM
They’re about to fuck with Aggy easy schedule.
Same for Nebraska. Nebbie has had a losing season the past three years in spite of the OOC schedule. One asked on the cornnut board if they have to play a conference only schedule, can they play Rutgers every game? LOL
soldierhorn
07-10-2020, 09:58 AM
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soldierhorn
07-10-2020, 09:59 AM
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soldierhorn
07-10-2020, 10:42 AM
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TFloss32
07-10-2020, 01:35 PM
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pgardn
07-10-2020, 03:03 PM
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A mess.
some of the poor districts have tiny locker rooms with very poor ventilation
in the bigger districts that load their physical education classes with 50 or 60 students so the head coach does not have to teach a class... Forget PE
TFloss32
07-10-2020, 07:02 PM
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Eastexhorn
07-11-2020, 01:00 PM
Saw where Inside Texas is predicting 10 more spaces for 2021 class. A lot of attrition IMO 18 or 19 would be closer depending on Brockermeyers on which figure.
soldierhorn
07-11-2020, 02:26 PM
Saw where Inside Texas is predicting 10 more spaces for 2021 class. A lot of attrition IMO 18 or 19 would be closer depending on Brockermeyers on which figure.
I agree with you. If they are already past the 85 limit with one of two possibly going medical, any additional names implies a one for one recruit to attrition rate from here on out. We are already going into the second week of July and most of the attrition should have happened by now. It usually happens in June after the spring practices, evaluations and finish of the semester. If there isnt going to be reprieve/waiver from the ncaa for the 85 man limit, then a LOT has to happen in July and I dont get a sense that is happening right now. If they wait until August camp to evaluate in person like they would in the spring, then that isnt really fair to the players that will be forced out since it would be too late to transfer to another program and compete for a spot.
We know this is going to happen somehow because they are still recruiting hard for at least a half dozen positions. It's going to be interesting to watch.
soldierhorn
07-11-2020, 02:47 PM
From the offer board...
3* DE, Jonathan Jones, from McKinney, TX, committed to Mizzu
https://247sports.com/Player/Jonathan-Jones-46098189/
https://twitter.com/They_callmejon/status/1282000428079755264?s=20
Eastexhorn
07-11-2020, 07:05 PM
Yes some how it will happen. What bothers me is all talk is about WRS , LBs, and DBs no OL.
soldierhorn
07-12-2020, 12:57 PM
Yes some how it will happen. What bothers me is all talk is about WRS , LBs, and DBs no OL.
Another way to look at it is: If they have a full roster (85) for 2020 and there are about 11 seniors, maybe a few medical moves, and potentially some players may turn pro (eg, Cosmi), then the current class of 14 probably makes up for those losses so, again, it should be a one for one trade off between added recruits and attrition from here on out. I dont get into this stuff as much any more and I have not considered what recruits can be applied to the 2020 class but that is really only about staying around the 25 recruit limit. They can massage the numbers but the real limit is the 85 man roster unless the ncaa gives a waiver for this odd year
soldierhorn
07-13-2020, 07:57 AM
I dont think there's much to see here but...
1282502792800854018
https://247sports.com/Player/Dametrious-Crownover-46079297
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:30 AM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:32 AM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:32 AM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:33 AM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:38 AM
2022 OL Kelvin Banks (Humble Summer Creek)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Banks-46082828/
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:45 AM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 11:50 AM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:04 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:06 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:08 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:09 PM
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The Jamails made the request for a change.
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:10 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:12 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:15 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:24 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:26 PM
2022 CB Jaheim Singletary (Jacksonville, FL)
1282721515054694400
https://247sports.com/Player/Jaheim-Singletary-46082114/
benefactor
07-13-2020, 12:26 PM
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This seems fair...seeings how they granted almost every single request
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:32 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 12:33 PM
From the offer board...
WR Adonai Mitchell of Antioch, TN flips from Ole Miss to Georgia.
https://247sports.com/Player/Adonai-Mitchell-46085140/
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 01:29 PM
24/7 mentioned this morning they believe Texas is the current leader for DT Shemar Turner of DeSoto, followed closely by A&M and Alabama.
They added this is a result of Texas' massive recruiting effort with several coaches and commitments being in constant contact with Turner, and he plans on making a fall decision.
https://247sports.com/Player/Shemar-Turner-46055593/
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 01:33 PM
2022 S Chace Biddle of Garland told 24/7 Texas is his leader, and says he appreciates the coaching staff believing in him early.
Roach has submitted a Texas crystal ball for him.
https://247sports.com/Player/Chace-Biddle-46099832/
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 01:35 PM
On WR Dekel Crowdus of Lexington, KY...despite the rumors recently of Texas gaining a lot of momentum here, 24/7 doesn't feel he's anywhere close to opening up his recruitment and he's still in contact with several schools.
https://247sports.com/player/dekel-crowdus-46056791/
pgardn
07-13-2020, 02:10 PM
1282717754299228167
oh please be one with us...
TFloss32
07-13-2020, 05:58 PM
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TFloss32
07-13-2020, 07:26 PM
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soldierhorn
07-13-2020, 08:27 PM
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just as well if true. My enthusiasm is almost nonexistent at this point and it's not because of the Chinese virus
Eastexhorn
07-13-2020, 09:37 PM
Amen
TFloss32
07-14-2020, 11:39 AM
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texbound
07-14-2020, 11:58 AM
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Doesn't hurt, I think, that his HS coach has strong UT ties here. Every advantage helps with a player of his caliber.
TFloss32
07-14-2020, 01:53 PM
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texbound
07-14-2020, 04:29 PM
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Patterson is really taking a gamble this year. These character issues could really backfire on him. However, these are really good talents.
Jimmiemac
07-14-2020, 09:08 PM
Patterson is really taking a gamble this year. These character issues could really backfire on him. However, these are really good talents.
Seriously? Are you implying he was forced out of LSU?
Anyway, TCU also expected to land JD Spielman so load up your fodder for that one also.
Harvey88210
07-14-2020, 09:26 PM
Seriously? Are you implying he was forced out of LSU?
Anyway, TCU also expected to land JD Spielman so load up your fodder for that one also.
Seriously? You really didn’t know Brooks has character issues? Lol, ok.
soldierhorn
07-14-2020, 09:29 PM
if it happens, some think that cooks commitment will likely shut down the LB position for this class
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Eastexhorn
07-15-2020, 09:35 AM
If Cook commits should shut down LB recruitment. One would hope so with no attrition Returning LBS would equal no of returning OL. Two positions vs five food for thought.
Bloeddyr10
07-15-2020, 10:55 AM
I'm actually starting to think Texas could reel in WR Malcolm Johnson Jr.. A WR class of Johnson, Jaden Alexis and Casey Cain would be more than pretty good, IMO.
https://247sports.com/player/malcolm-johnson-jr-46041297/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/11083427/Malcolm-Johnson-Jr
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Billybass
07-15-2020, 12:08 PM
I’m getting lots of blank posts from Tfloss. Is there an easy fix ?
Billybass
07-15-2020, 12:11 PM
Sorry, soon as I logged in, problem was fixed
rogcl1
07-15-2020, 01:22 PM
Sorry, soon as I logged in, problem was fixed
Glad that fixed it. I'm no tech whiz , but had the same problem using Microsoft edge even after logging in and here is what I discovered. First of all using google chrome fixed it. Microsoft edge works only if you have the tracking feature on the privacy and security page turned to medium. It will not show them if that feature is set to high.
bluetrumpet
07-16-2020, 10:44 AM
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I don’t have access to the article but glad to see he’s back. Any updates on when we will be getting the next commit? The Brock brothers have been pretty quiet recently...any news?
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:35 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:38 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:40 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:42 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:44 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:46 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:47 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:48 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 11:51 AM
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TFloss32
07-16-2020, 12:03 PM
LB Kendrick Blackshire (Duncanville)
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https://247sports.com/Player/Kendrick-Blackshire-46042943/
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 12:19 PM
According to 24/7, TE Gunnar Helm of Englewood, CO will be making a trip to Austin this weekend.
https://247sports.com/Player/Gunnar-Helm-46098641/
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 12:25 PM
OK State picks up WR John Paul Richardson of Fort Bend Ridge Point.
Son of former A&M QB, Bucky.
https://247sports.com/Player/John-Paul-Richardson-46050019/
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 01:06 PM
Suchomel at OrangeBloods just posted that he's had Texas' chances of landing the Brockermeyers at 45%.
He said he feels now that's way too high, and that Alabama has a good lead.
He changed his pick to Alabama for them.
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 01:17 PM
Suchomel at OrangeBloods just posted that he's had Texas' chances of landing the Brockermeyers at 45%.
He said he feels now that's way too high, and that Alabama has a good lead.
He changed his pick to Alabama for them.
24/7 agrees here and believes their commitment to Bama will happen by end of summer.
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 02:42 PM
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Harvey88210
07-16-2020, 02:59 PM
Adios, hermanos.
Eastexhorn
07-16-2020, 03:04 PM
Signing the Brocks was Texas chance of having a top ten class. Then it not who you get irs what you do withthem.
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 03:28 PM
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GregoryJim
07-16-2020, 03:52 PM
Bye bye Brocks.
Let’s move on. At least they won’t be recruiting Milroe for Bama in Texas Recruit group chats any more.
Every longhorn fan is going to make a face from here on out when the name Brockermeyer is spoken. But daddy don’t care bout that.
Hand and Herman gotta pull a rabbit out of the hat like Cosmi.
Will be hard to find late bloomers with no h.s. Games.
Sure wish they still had some Texas pride in them.
Eastexhorn
07-16-2020, 05:46 PM
Donot know about a tackle but there is a center rated higher than Tomy that Texas has not offered yet.
Getting in this late wont get the job done.Some how Texas does not show corcern to OLat least this year.
soldierhorn
07-16-2020, 08:54 PM
Sure wish they still had some Texas pride in them.
Maybe there's more to it than that. I remember when Bruce Matthews came to one of Mack's practices and reports were that he literally laughed out loud at McWhorter's drills and practice regime. And, he ended up sending his sons to A&M and subsequently to the NFL. Maybe former NFL players know what they are looking at and know what system is best suited to get to the next level
Vito Corleone
07-16-2020, 09:01 PM
Do you know what kind of a F-up you have to be to not close a sure thing like the Brockermeyers? 3 generations of Brocks have attended Texas, Their older brother is a scholarship linebacker for us. This is a very sad day for Longhorn fans.
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 09:33 PM
Do you know what kind of a F-up you have to be to not close a sure thing like the Brockermeyers? 3 generations of Brocks have attended Texas, Their older brother is a scholarship linebacker for us. This is a very sad day for Longhorn fans.
Difficult to find a comparison for how big of a loss it is, considering Tommy's ranking and all of the built-in advantages Texas had.
It was a lay-up, and Coach Hand hasn't received a commitment in almost a full year (Conner was 7/23/19).
Ultimately it's on Herman, though.
soldierhorn
07-16-2020, 09:33 PM
Do you know what kind of a F-up you have to be to not close a sure thing like the Brockermeyers? 3 generations of Brocks have attended Texas, Their older brother is a scholarship linebacker for us. This is a very sad day for Longhorn fans.
I think they may have had a better chance landing Tom & James without Luke on the team. If there are questionable practice methods, or locker room negativity, or over the top "wokeness" and pandering, then having a guy on the inside letting the family know what is REALLY going on might not be in the Horn's favor with regards to recruiting his brothers. The question is: will Luke have his scholly taken away after (or if) the Brocks decide to go somewhere else (Bama)? Herman will need the scholly to recruit another LB and Luke will have exceeded his purpose.
TFloss32
07-16-2020, 09:40 PM
I think they may have had a better chance landing Tom & James without Luke on the team. If there are questionable practice methods, or locker room negativity, or over the top "wokeness" and pandering, then having a guy on the inside letting the family know what is REALLY going on might not be in the Horn's favor with regards to recruiting his brothers. The question is: will Luke have his scholly taken away after (or if) the Brocks decide to go somewhere else (Bama)? Herman will need the scholly to recruit another LB and Luke will have exceeded his purpose.
I have a feeling there are a lot of layers to this that we may not know about until a few years down the road, because the twins likely would have committed to Clemson early if James had an offer (Dabo took a center from the East Coast).
Texas came in third, at best, in this race which on the surface seems unbelievable.
I don't see anything happening to Luke unless he's just not happy at Texas.
soldierhorn
07-16-2020, 10:06 PM
I have a feeling there are a lot of layers to this that we may not know about until a few years down the road, because the twins likely would have committed to Clemson early if James had an offer (Dabo took a center from the East Coast).
yep. And, with Clem ahead of the Horns for the Brocks, it kind of flies in the face of those that say that Herman/Hand should have offered James with his brother instead of waiting. Swinney did the same thing and still came out ahead without any legacy connections that I know of and OOS at the same time
You're probably right about Luke but he may find it more comfortable to leave on his own. FWIW, I dont see any problem taking his scholly away regardless.
Eastexhorn
07-17-2020, 08:57 AM
Yes take his ship and the other three former walk ons. Then sign the four best OL you can get.
What wrong with Texas,s recruiting? They have offered every Tom Dick and Harry at WR and let highly ranked OL go with out offers till too late just MO.
IvanDrago
07-17-2020, 09:01 AM
You don't take his ship out of spite. That'll come back to bite you in the ass in recruiting. Let's be honest, we're in this situation because of our performance. If our Oline didn't look like a turnstile anytime someone threw at stunt at us (OU, Baylor), then we'd probably be in better standing with the Brocks.
TFloss32
07-17-2020, 12:03 PM
Brocks to Bama.
Billybass
07-17-2020, 12:06 PM
Herman better win or he is gone
Harvey88210
07-17-2020, 12:57 PM
Herman better win or he is gone
Think COVID will save his job through at least 2021. Feels unlikely at best that any college football will be played this year.
Billybass
07-17-2020, 02:21 PM
Sam will be gone then. That’s the only chance he has.
I think we should go hard after Patterson. That guy is a better coach than what we have had for the last 6 years
Harvey88210
07-17-2020, 02:26 PM
Sam will be gone then. That’s the only chance he has.
I think we should go hard after Patterson. That guy is a better coach than what we have had for the last 6 years
By most accounts, Gary Patterson has genuine hatred for all things UT.
GregoryJim
07-17-2020, 02:44 PM
Geez, you guys stop with the fire Herman yesterday crap.
He’s the 2nd best coach we’ve had since Royal.
The kids play hard for him. The team competes in every game even when outgunned (usc 1, ou games). Team has won some games it shouldn’t (Utah, sugar bowl, ou ‘18). They’ve pooped the bed against Maryland 2x but fought back unlike Mack’s teams would against OU.
His recruiting has been good not great. Good transition class. Good transfers (Anderson ot, cal running back). 2 top ten classes.
It’s like you’re hoping the team loses so we can fire him.
When it’s time for him to go you will know - strong: ku; macovic:rte 66; Mack:5-7; d mcwms:couldn’t beat aggies, uh blowout in the heat.
Billybass
07-17-2020, 02:58 PM
I’m tired of watching Oklahoma get natty shot every year, while we make excuses
Eastexhorn
07-17-2020, 03:03 PM
Tom behind Akers for third place. May be with new assts.Tom can get it done this year. Beat both Okies and you are in good shape. Then they may not play this year.
If Tom does not win this year the hill gets steeper in coming seasons.
Harvey88210
07-17-2020, 03:22 PM
In honesty, I’m not on the fire Herman side. There really aren’t any other coaches right now outside of Saban and Dabo that I feel could get Texas to the level of Bama, Clemson, tOSU, et al..
Not any that are glaringly apparent anyways. Herman was probably as good as Texas could get at the time. The culture in Austin probably wouldn’t have been as easy a place for a guy like Orgeron to find the type of success he has found at LSU. Herman doesn’t seem to be the one that’s going to bring NC’s to Austin but I doubt he sinks the program like Charlie Strong did. My only quip with Herman was allowing Samples to go to SMU. You have to find a way to keep those kinds of recruiting advantages by any means necessary. Was he ready to be a full fledged WR coach at UT? Probably not, but why not give it to him and then have your other assistants hold his hand while he rakes in all the elite talent from the Dallas area schools? Just bc he has the title doesn’t mean he can’t be trained on the job for a few years until he’s ready to run the WR room alone.
KTABTX
07-17-2020, 07:35 PM
Urban would have us right in this thick of things by year 2, maybe even year 1.
soldierhorn
07-17-2020, 08:23 PM
Tom behind Akers for third place. May be with new assts.Tom can get it done this year. Beat both Okies and you are in good shape. Then they may not play this year.
If Tom does not win this year the hill gets steeper in coming seasons.
maybe 3rd or 4th at this point depending on what the criteria is. For instance, Mackovic won three straight conference championships starting his third year (94,95,96) in two different conferences. Sure, he was an arrogant prick as well and that's ok if you produce; the moment you dont, there might not be as many people on your side as you thought. Nonetheless, he did win some championships and lost to okiehoma only twice. Mack took over a stacked team that seriously under performed in '97
GregoryJim
07-18-2020, 08:57 AM
I went to Lamar Jr high and Stacy Akers (Fred’s daughter) was a pretty blonde cheerleader in the grade ahead of me. Somebody wrote “Axe Akers” on her locker.
Funny how people remember him as a good coach.
Vito Corleone
07-18-2020, 10:13 AM
I went to Lamar Jr high and Stacy Akers (Fred’s daughter) was a pretty blonde cheerleader in the grade ahead of me. Somebody wrote “Axe Akers” on her locker.
Funny how people remember him as a good coach.
Akers as a coach, not the worst, however Akers as a recruiter... He was a pompous ass who was a bit racist in that he didn't recruit the inner-city black kids. Things fell apart for him because of cheating by everyone in the SWC. It was a virtual swap meet for players being bought. Finally and most important was the lack of backing by the boosters. Not just lack of backing he had a contingent of boosters that wanted him out so badly they began sabotaging the program to the point of contacting recruits and telling them not to come to Texas.
soldierhorn
07-18-2020, 10:26 AM
I went to Lamar Jr high and Stacy Akers (Fred’s daughter) was a pretty blonde cheerleader in the grade ahead of me. Somebody wrote “Axe Akers” on her locker.
Funny how people remember him as a good coach.
yeah, he could have had two national championships and I'm not counting the '77 team. ND looked like a semi-pro team back then compared to the Horns. But, it was the absolute right move to put Earl at TB. It's hard to feature a back like Earl (or Leaks, or Holmes, or Ricky, etc) in the wishbone.
Mackovic is another one that opinions will soften as the years go by. Back then, he was called him Shitovic. Yeah, they won some CCGs with only 8 total season wins but got blown out in decent bowls. His best team ('95) were favored in the sugar bowl and got blown out by a not-so-impressive Virginia Tech team. In '97, people were saying the team quit on him during and after the Rt 66 game, which led to his firing.
I think Herman is better than Mackovic but he needs to start putting some hides on the wall. And, you cant consistently lose to okiehoma and keep your job (he has lost 3 of 4 against 0U) esp if you are not mixing in championships. Mack got away with it twice before it finally caught up with him (among other things). In one of my Longhorn books, then athletic director, Dana X Bible, was asked around 1956 time frame why he fired Cherry and Price. Dana said that they didnt beat oklahoma enough... and, this was after three straight non-winning seasons and only one total win in 1956.
Eastexhorn
07-18-2020, 10:48 AM
Cherry converted to T formation with Layne at QB
Akers lost a nat. ship by not having a well informed PR.
J. Mac beat Mack in Sun Bowl.
mack done less with more except for Vince.
Tom verdict is still outHope for best.
Vito Corleone
07-18-2020, 10:50 AM
yeah, he could have had two national championships and I'm not counting the '77 team. ND looked like a semi-pro team back then compared to the Horns. But, it was the absolute right move to put Earl at TB. It's hard to feature a back like Earl (or Leaks, or Holmes, or Ricky, etc) in the wishbone.
Mackovic is another one that opinions will soften as the years go by. Back then, we called him Shitovic. Yeah, they won some CCGs with only 8 total season wins but got blown out in decent bowls. His best team ('95) were favored in the sugar bowl and got blown out by a not-so-impressive Virginia Tech team. In '97, people were saying the team quit on him during and after the Rt 66 game, which led to his firing.
I think Herman is better than Mackovic but he needs to start putting some hides on the wall. And, you cant consistently lose to okiehoma and keep your job (he has lost 3 of 4 against 0U) esp if you are not mixing in championships. Mack got away with it twice before it finally caught up with him (among other things). In one of my Longhorn books, then athletic director, Dana X Bible, was asked around 1956 time frame why he fired Cherry and Price. Dana said that they didnt beat oklahoma enough... and, this was after three straight non-winning seasons and only one total win in 1956.
Everything has fallen in place for this to be the year Texas really takes that big step forward. If Tom Herman is the coach we thought he was when we hired him then he has to show it this year. I'm talking 1 loss max. I hold him that this team is talented enough to win the conference, if we don't it's on the staff.
soldierhorn
07-18-2020, 11:09 AM
Akers as a coach, not the worst, however Akers as a recruiter... He was a pompous ass who was a bit racist in that he didn't recruit the inner-city black kids. Things fell apart for him because of cheating by everyone in the SWC. It was a virtual swap meet for players being bought. Finally and most important was the lack of backing by the boosters. Not just lack of backing he had a contingent of boosters that wanted him out so badly they began sabotaging the program to the point of contacting recruits and telling them not to come to Texas.
yep. It's hard to believe now but back in the '70s there was a strong contingent at UT that wanted DKR gone, and ultimately one of the major reasons he quit as AD. But, IMO, this fractured the boosters and they kind of took sides in different camps without a strong athletic director after 1980. Deloss was the new AD and just didnt have the influence to put all the BBs back in the box which left Akers naked so to speak. IMO, Royal saw this happening again in '97 and took charge of the situation behind the scenes and TOLD Deloss what to do; ie, get on the plane and go get Mack Brown chaperoned by billionaire donors (I cant remember if it was the Hicks or Hunt brothers and maybe someone else). Deloss wanted Gary Barnett (who ended up at CU) to replace Mackovic
soldierhorn
07-18-2020, 11:24 AM
Everything has fallen in place for this to be the year Texas really takes that big step forward. If Tom Herman is the coach we thought he was when we hired him then he has to show it this year. I'm talking 1 loss max. I hold him that this team is talented enough to win the conference, if we don't it's on the staff.
Fully agree. If you look at the teams that Herman is competing against for top recruits (Riley, Swinney, Saban, Day, & big O) and in a lot of cases losing recruiting battles to, Herman is the one that doesnt have any championships to convince recruits he can take the team and them to the next level. Herman NEEDS this season MORE than any of these other coaches. If the season gets cancelled, it's going to be a long, LONG off season for Herman and the staff. IMO, if he cant show that he can win a championship this fall (even if the season is cancelled), then he needs to let some coaches go that arent recruiting very well. IMO, the RB coach should be one of the best, if not the best, recruiter on the staff.
This is assuming that he gets a mulligan for this season due to extenuating circumstances (CHINESE virus).
TFloss32
07-18-2020, 12:00 PM
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soldierhorn
07-18-2020, 12:05 PM
agree on all points.
Cherry converted to T formation with Layne at QB
guess what QB had to move to fullback when Bobby got to campus? Tom Landry
Akers lost a nat. ship by not having a well informed PR.
yep. and they didnt even have to field the punt and could have ran out the clock. It took a while to get over that game. Had Akers won that game, the '80s likely would have been much different
J. Mac beat Mack in Sun Bowl.
yeah. it was said that it was THAT game and Mack Brown's demeanor before and after the game that impressed DKR. Ultimately, that is what led DKR to go after Mack Brown in '97
mack done less with more except for Vince.
This is true... and, he had to be convinced to recruit Vince (the #1 rated player in the country)
Tom verdict is still outHope for best.
yep. And, he NEEDS this season. Let's hope that it happens and they rise to the challenge
pgardn
07-18-2020, 06:29 PM
I judge coaches not just buy the win loss record, but how our kids play for them.
Have you ever seen UT teams quit on the field with any of the coaches mentioned?
I have not seen this with Herman. If you have, which game? I think Herman himself has said we did not give our best effort today, but I have not seen the team quit on him.
pgardn
07-18-2020, 06:34 PM
Also still have Questions about the R. Letio scholarship and our WR with the gun on the roster. I’m not all in.
also I do realize that this unique year has many of the players upset and I’m sure there have been some sort of meetings and discussions, but that’s likely going on in every team in the nation.
pgardn
07-18-2020, 06:40 PM
Everything has fallen in place for this to be the year Texas really takes that big step forward. If Tom Herman is the coach we thought he was when we hired him then he has to show it this year. I'm talking 1 loss max. I hold him that this team is talented enough to win the conference, if we don't it's on the staff.
Hes gone if we play a full schedule.
Eastexhorn
07-18-2020, 08:14 PM
I do not think Tom had a team quit on him. Mack maybe in a few games.
soldierhorn
07-18-2020, 08:59 PM
Have you ever seen UT teams quit on the field with any of the coaches mentioned?
No. I have not seen this with a Herman team....yet. OTOH, I think Herman has some Mackovic in him in that he is also an arrogant prick that doesnt relate well with people and doesnt really want to, however, I think Herman knows this which explains his awkward over-the-top pretend wokeness, But, that newly discovered player-power can turn on him in a heartbeat if things dont go right. I hope it doesnt but that is the two-edged sword he chose to play.
pgardn
07-18-2020, 10:34 PM
No. I have not seen this with a Herman team....yet. OTOH, I think Herman has some Mackovic in him in that he is also an arrogant prick that doesnt relate well with people and doesnt really want to, however, I think Herman knows this which explains his awkward over-the-top pretend wokeness, But, that newly discovered player-power can turn on him in a heartbeat if things dont go right. I hope it doesnt but that is the two-edged sword he chose to play.
I get this as well.
The woke stuff I don’t really understand.
There are all sorts of ways to motivate kids. If they work together for a common goal, I don’t care how we get it done as long as we don’t cheat. In the end, you have to work damn hard, sacrifice for a team (like playing a position that is not your best) and you do this for all the other people on the team. Especially those guys who don’t play, but sweat blood every practice without any fan fare. You think about those guys who work their asses of and never see a down on the field and you will play till you can’t anymore. A coach that gets an ENTIRE team working hard and the starters see how hard the 4 deep guys work because the coaches care... that’s irreplaceable brotherhood. Get that done, and I don’t care about whatever woke means.
soldierhorn
07-18-2020, 11:56 PM
I suppose, but it's high risk, hard to watch, and not really mentoring young men
As someone who's job it was for almost thirty years to train young men (including teenagers) and other leaders, there is no way we would pander to any one group. That's a recipe for disaster. Back in the day when the army had green camo uniforms, part of the briefing and counseling was to tell someone new that it doesnt matter where you came from (urban, rural, or even another country) and it doesnt matter what your color is or what you think you are - it doesnt matter - we are ALL GREEN and we are going to accomplish the mission together. Our lives depend on each other doing their job and if you dont get that, then you wont be successful and probably wont be around for long.
Eastexhorn
07-19-2020, 09:22 AM
Heres hoping Tom sees what it takes to win and does it. Time is runing out on him and me also.
Any one know of any ex Okie QBS in the coaching profesion, Maybe a combo. of J. Mac on offence and Akers or Manley on defence would work.
pgardn
07-19-2020, 09:31 AM
I suppose, but it's high risk, hard to watch, and not really mentoring young men
As someone who's job it was for almost thirty years to train young men (including teenagers) and other leaders, there is no way we would pander to any one group. That's a recipe for disaster. Back in the day when the army had green camo uniforms, part of the briefing and counseling was to tell someone new that it doesnt matter where you came from (urban, rural, or even another country) and it doesnt matter what your color is or what you think you are - it doesnt matter - we are ALL GREEN and we are going to accomplish the mission together. Our lives depend on each other doing their job and if you dont get that, then you wont be successful and probably wont be around for long.
as a coach you must know when to kick butt and when to lay off.
your job is to get them performing at the best they possibly can.
you do have to make individual decisions about some kids and the best way to motivate them. and that of course is not showing the whole team that you were giving anyone special treatment as far as the difficulty of the task of working your rear off for the next person.
in fact I would argue that throwing some rule breaking intransigent stud off the team might be an incredibly good motivator and lesson because it illustrates that you are all in this together. But at the same time you might’ve talk to him; And explained very clearly the way it was going to go. And of course if you are aware of group dynamics as a coach, you can tell who a bad apple is and how they’re going to spread a divisive message and you stop it immediately.
and of course this is always going to be an incredibly difficult job because some kids might be in severe pain and never show it and others have a low threshold and complain immediately. that’s a very tough balancing act that I’m sure you’re aware of.
in the end because there are so many kids you will make them understand that this is a huge united group effort, even if you don’t win you can gain a enormous sense of satisfaction on how much a group that works together can get done. those kids will never forget that lesson.
working together and accomplishing.
The message of a kid in high school who is growing and seeing so much individual improvement in himself because of what he was willing to put out for the group is invaluable.
sorry if this sounds like communism, but I know this works. And it is a difficult job. Especially if parents are too heavily involved and want to see their baby at quarterback. You even might have to rely on teenagers to teach the adult community the way it’s going to be and to lay off the criticism of coaches. Because the kids trust you, They will your allies in other ways
and the community you coach can make a huge difference in how you address issues. I would argue that communities that contain parents who know “all about football” can be the most difficult. Especially for a new coach without skins on the wall.
and yes times change. you can’t do Bear Bryant camps anymore.
thanks for doing your very difficult job. people have no idea how difficult it is to deal with large groups of teenagers at one time and possibly the community. they watch a pro football game and scream “throw the bomb” when your line cannot physically pass block the opponents , there are literally plays you cannot run and they don’t get it.
sorry for the wall of text to the board, but if we might not have a season, it might be Time to start talking about coaching and the difficulties or whatever subject
pgardn
07-19-2020, 09:39 AM
Next subject, how to “find” team leaders
Or whatever...
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