2021 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[texas4ever]

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https://247sports.com/Player/Bear-Alexander-46076651/

[Eastexhorn]

Or you could hire the next Mack Brown, Lincoln, Bob stoops. I could go on. Just know he is not a quality coach. Not for me to find their HC.

Pass on next Mack. Lincoln or Bob would do.Ever who needs a scorch the earth offense to compete in Big 12.

[texas4ever]

2022 WR Nicholas Anderson (Katy)

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https://247sports.com/Player/Nicholas-Anderson-46102449/

[texas4ever]

I wonder what Ja'Quinden might be thinking about now?

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[Billybass]

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Aggies got screwed. Notre Dame pick is pure NCAA political bullshit. But NCAA will have their crooked ass refs out there, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

[texas4ever]

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[woofwoof]

Cam Rising, JQJ, and C. Brewer? A lot of young talent there, seems like they just wanna get away

[Vito Corleone]

Cam Rising, JQJ, and C. Brewer? A lot of young talent there, seems like they just wanna get away

I'm guessing JQJ eventually moves to another position. That was the whole point of him picking Texas, compete with a shot at QB but if you don't succeed move to a position you are better suited for. He chose to move on, seems to me he still thinks he can play QB but the Texas coaches think he can't.

[pgardn]

Or you could hire the next Mack Brown, Lincoln, Bob stoops. I could go on. Just know he is not a quality coach. Not for me to find their HC.

Or you could hire Charlie strong, Tom H, David McWilliams, etc...
Or you could wait one year because you got no good cards in hand this year.
What is it? You want to go with what’s available now? Or wait

[pgardn]

Aggies got screwed. Notre Dame pick is pure NCAA political bullshit. But NCAA will have their crooked ass refs out there, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

SEC is very weak.
ATM beat two teams with winning records, one of those was Auburn 5-4 who fired their coach for the shitty season. The real player, Alabama, crushed them in a laugher. Teams who have already been crushed by the big dog can sit.

The playoffs this year should involve three teams ideally.
Alabama gets a bye Clemson and Ohio St. play.

[Billybass]

SEC is very weak.
ATM beat two teams with winning records, one of those was Auburn 5-4 who fired their coach for the shitty season. The real player, Alabama, crushed them in a laugher. Teams who have already been crushed by the big dog can sit.

The playoffs this year should involve three teams ideally.
Alabama gets a bye Clemson and Ohio St. play.
Probably right about 3 teams. Notre dame got beat last weekend 34-10 by Clemson. They damn sure don’t belong. Aggies did beat a #4 team (Florida).

[pgardn]

Probably right about 3 teams. Notre dame got beat last weekend 34-10 by Clemson. They damn sure don’t belong. Aggies did beat a #4 team (Florida).

Florida is a 3 game loser and the Aggies squeaked it out.
One good win... Not enough.

The Aggies and ND along with a number of others are second tier imo... And that opinion is tenuous as this year was big mess.

[rjv]

SEC is very weak.
ATM beat two teams with winning records, one of those was Auburn 5-4 who fired their coach for the shitty season. The real player, Alabama, crushed them in a laugher. Teams who have already been crushed by the big dog can sit.

The playoffs this year should involve three teams ideally.
Alabama gets a bye Clemson and Ohio St. play.

a bye will never happen-too much money involved, which is likely the reason ND got in (ratings). now, i think OSU also benefited from entitlement but they at least pass the eye test and have a history of success in the playoffs, unlike ND. that all being said, A&M was never going to beat Bama but it's certainly not an unreasonable assertion to make that A&M (and even OU) are better teams that ND. i'll certainly enjoy watching Bama beat the living crap out of them.

[texas4ever]

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https://247sports.com/Player/Emeka-Megwa-46056677/

[Cowhorns01]

Or you could hire Charlie strong, Tom H, David McWilliams, etc...
Or you could wait one year because you got no good cards in hand this year.
What is it? You want to go with what’s available now? Or wait

I rather get rid of herman period. Interim Ash if you have too. At least his side of the ball has shown improvement. If you want to continue with the same crap that's on you but I'd rather move on. Herman is garbage.

[pgardn]

I rather get rid of herman period. Interim Ash if you have too. At least his side of the ball has shown improvement. If you want to continue with the same crap that's on you but I'd rather move on. Herman is garbage.

Aha

I got a name then. I could go with that as long as the recruits stay we have in place this year. And if he could get some transfers. And if he has a good season ... Cool with me if people think Ash could do well.

[pgardn]

a bye will never happen-too much money involved, which is likely the reason ND got in (ratings). now, i think OSU also benefited from entitlement but they at least pass the eye test and have a history of success in the playoffs, unlike ND. that all being said, A&M was never going to beat Bama but it's certainly not an unreasonable assertion to make that A&M (and even OU) are better teams that ND. i'll certainly enjoy watching Bama beat the living crap out of them.

it is amazing that all these playoffs have to be set in stone.

The NFL should have some rule that finishing under 500 and winning your conference should not give you a route to the playoffs. The NFC east.

this college football season is a mess. but it is really clear to me only three teams need to go and Alabama should get the bye. Ohio State beat fewer teams and also had a week schedule. Clemson lost without their QB and lost one game to a team they soundly beat with their quarterback

I also think Alabama does not deserve to have to wait around a long time and lose an edge that might be gained by either Ohio State and Clemson playing each other. I wish the schedule could be Ohio State Clemson next week immediately followed by the winner playing Alabama.

that seems by far the fairest imo.

[Billybass]

it is amazing that all these playoffs have to be set in stone.

The NFL should have some rule that finishing under 500 and winning your conference should not give you a route to the playoffs. The NFC east.

this college football season is a mess. but it is really clear to me only three teams need to go and Alabama should get the bye. Ohio State beat fewer teams and also had a week schedule. Clemson lost without their QB and lost one game to a team they soundly beat with their quarterback

I also think Alabama does not deserve to have to wait around a long time and lose an edge that might be gained by either Ohio State and Clemson playing each other. I wish the schedule could be Ohio State Clemson next week immediately followed by the winner playing Alabama.

that seems by far the fairest imo.
still no reasonable answer to how ND gets in. Ou or A&M would whip their ass. And with the refs they are trottin out there anything is possible

[texas4ever]

Okafor returning

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[Vito Corleone]

still no reasonable answer to how ND gets in. Ou or A&M would whip their ass. And with the refs they are trottin out there anything is possible

Sure there is.

Their best wins are against Clemson and UNC, Ags best wins are against Florida and who? Ags were destroyed by Bama by over 4 TDs while ND split with Clemson. That's how that works.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

Texas offers 2021 ATH Dorian Singer (Phoenix, AZ)

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https://247sports.com/Player/Dorian-Singer-46086807/

[texas4ever]

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[leemajors]

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Puzzling.

[woofwoof]

Puzzling.

I know a few ppl are happy he is gone. Regardless, he's chasing money. Hope he gets in a makes a few million. Itll only help our recruiting and, if we are lucky, Troy Omiere is as good or better.

[Harvey88210]

I know a few ppl are happy he is gone. Regardless, he's chasing money. Hope he gets in a makes a few million. Itll only help our recruiting and, if we are lucky, Troy Omiere is as good or better.

We ain’t been that in awhile.

[Hook Em 88]

Nice to see Quandre make the Pro Bowl! One of all time favorite Longhorns!

[Vito Corleone]

Nice to see Quandre make the Pro Bowl! One of all time favorite Longhorns!

It's been a while since his cousin Quintin Jammer played for Texas, I wonder if his kids are getting old enough to play for Texas? That family has some very good football genes.

[woofwoof]

We ain’t been that in awhile.

Lol thats true.

[rburkhalter903]

If Herman is still the coach, they will probably go to Bama

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

Per Inside Texas, expect Montrell Estell to move to WR full time from here on out.

[texas4ever]

Texas offers 2023 WR Jalen Hale out of Longview.

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https://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Hale-46097269/

[texas4ever]

Things are trending towards Alabama picking up RB Camar Wheaton.

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[texas4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS7-TiwQzP0

[Eastexhorn]

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IMO OL line looked much better with them starting.

[Eastexhorn]

Per Inside Texas, expect Montrell Estell to move to WR full time from here on out.

This makes a coaching decision with a lot of safties on hand and the WRroom so empty.:)

[texas4ever]

Things are trending towards Alabama picking up RB Camar Wheaton.

Wheaton does commit to Bama.

[Juan Grande]

https://twitter.com/Kyle_Youmans/status/1341626885336391686

[texas4ever]

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[Juan Grande]

2020 RB Ty Jordan (West Mesquite) who was committed to Texas for awhile, has passed away (they are saying "accidental shooting")
He was the Pac-12 freshman of the year at Utah

[Vito Corleone]

That is horrible news. Prayers for his family, especially on Christmas. You send your kid to college and coaches tell you they will take care of them and you get news like this. Devistating.

[yavozerb]

That is horrible news. Prayers for his family, especially on Christmas. You send your kid to college and coaches tell you they will take care of them and you get news like this. Devistating.

Had nothing to do with coaches, happened in denton

[Vito Corleone]

Had nothing to do with coaches, happened in denton

the fact it didn't happen at school is good for the Ute program but still so very sad for the family.

[woofwoof]

How is this board with Brian Kelly? IT (Jesus Shuttlesworth) seems to believe him to be the new coach if/when Urban turns UT down again...

[Vito Corleone]

I heard that Kelly only makes 1.8 million with Notre Dame, I never would have thought that. If he is interested, he would be the next most ideal candidate after Urban Meyer. He has a strong track record of building/rebuilding teams. His teams have great offensive/defensive lines. His defenses are generally pretty strong, what I'm not sure of is can he produce an offense that can keep up with other Big 12 offenses?

With all that said, Texas would be lucky to get Brian Kelly from Notre Dame, but he has a good thing going with them and unless it's about the money I don't know there is anything we can offer him that they can't.

[playblair]

the same brian kelly who lost to chuck strong.............

[woofwoof]

I'm kinda torn. Hard to predict how good somebody will be at a different school, but he has been successful at every school he's been to, oline shouldnt be a problem anymore, but he did lose to Charlie in the year Charlie was getting fired, and ultimately he just isn't Urban.

[Vito Corleone]

the same brian kelly who lost to chuck strong.............

The same Brian Kelly in the playoffs. The same Brian Kelly who has put several offensive linemen in the NFL. His ceiling might not be as high as Meyer, but his floor is a lot higher than anyone we have had since Mack.

[Eastexhorn]

Maybe even since Akers.

[Vito Corleone]

Maybe even since Akers.

I always wondered what might have been with Akers if he won it all in 77 or 83. After Miami beat Nebraska in 83, it was a whole new world in college football and the game basically passed him by.

[Juan Grande]

How is this board with Brian Kelly? IT (Jesus Shuttlesworth) seems to believe him to be the new coach if/when Urban turns UT down again...

He is a hard ass who has abused his own players on natl TV, which would make him quite the contrast from what our current roster is accustomed to. But I think an argument can be easily made that this might be exactly what they need.
Another question would be can he recruit this state? If hired, would hope to see him hire some assistants with deep ties to Texas hs football and coaches.

Plus, there was this
https://deadspin.com/how-a-notre-dame-student-died-and-why-he-shouldnt-have-5675694
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/more-sports/how-does-brian-kelly-get-a-pass-for-killing-a-kid/79901586/

[Vito Corleone]

He is a hard ass who has abused his own players on natl TV, which would make him quite the contrast from what our current roster is accustomed to. But I think an argument can be easily made that this might be exactly what they need.
Another question would be can he recruit this state? If hired, would hope to see him hire some assistants with deep ties to Texas hs football and coaches.

If he is hired (Big IF) I hope he keeps several of our assistants but it is a must that he keeps Stan Drayton. Lose him and we likely lose Bijan Robinson. I'd honestly like to keep all of our defensive coaches for one more season as I think we have something with them.

What this team needs is a hard ass offensive line coach I don't know why we haven't been able to find one. I can't remember the last time we had a good oline coach. I also wouldn't mind stealing away the dline coach of Ohio state, I'd go so far as to offer him the DC position if we could get him. That dude knows what he is doing.

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens

[bluetrumpet]

Very good first series by both the offense and defense!

[pgardn]

That quick pitch to R. Johnson on 4th down shows he lacks speed.
That had to be B. Robinson for that particular play.

[GAustex]

Is Colorado fodder?

[pgardn]

Is Colorado fodder?

For this season, especially in the PAC or BiG, who knows.
Ohio St. is lucky they had a rep or they might not have gotten in.
They looked very beatable against Indiana and Northwestern.

[pgardn]

Wow.

Look at all the longhorn fans ready to comment on this board.
A veritable desert.

[pgardn]

Wow.

Look at all the longhorn fans ready to comment on this board.
A veritable desert.

Cool.
Our fans have opted out.
What pro teams do you guys hope to end up on?

[bluetrumpet]

I feel like we need to get Whittington and Jake more touches. That INT by Collins was insane!!! He’s such a freak athlete

[pgardn]

I feel like we need to get Whittington and Jake more touches. That INT by Collins was insane!!! He’s such a freak athlete

Agreed.

I dont know if Whittington will ever be the same player.
He has had some injuries in a number of different leg areas so he may be a shell of himself.
I really feel bad for him because I thought he was going to be awesome as a Fr.

[GAustex]

So typical of UT.
They are there to make the play but somehow goof it up

[Kermit]

Wow.

Look at all the longhorn fans ready to comment on this board.
A veritable desert.

Yeah, nobody gives a fuck. Shitty season, shitty game. It’s also hard for the fans to give a fuck when all the team captains who could play decided not to.

[pgardn]

Yeah, nobody gives a fuck. Shitty season, shitty game. It’s also hard for the fans to give a fuck when all the team captains who could play decided not to.

Diehard I see...

[DMX7]

Yeah, nobody gives a fuck. Shitty season, shitty game. It’s also hard for the fans to give a fuck when all the team captains who could play decided not to.

Sam is playing although I’d like to see other guys get some time.

[Kermit]

And a stupid ass head coach who always forgets he has Bijan on his team.

[Kermit]

Diehard I see...

I’m a glutton for punishment.

[Cowhorns01]

And again they quit using Bijan Robinson. Thats another reason he gets to go.

[Kermit]

Sam is playing although I’d like to see other guys get some time.

Wait until he comes back next season.

[pgardn]

The new guys on the Dline look pretty damn good.

Our offense stinks.
Sam is rated 12 th best QB in the draft, hes going to drop further.

[pgardn]

I’m a glutton for punishment.

Welcome to the club then.
From the relativity point of view, we can say we have been through shit so if we actually do well we should appreciate it much more.
If Alabama sustains 1 loss in a season it was shit.

[pgardn]

And a stupid ass head coach who always forgets he has Bijan on his team.

This, I dont get.
So he is the best RB on the team by a mile and you dont play him because Fr?
This is a Popovich like move.

[DMX7]

This, I dont get.
So he is the best RB on the team by a mile and you dont play him because Fr?
This is a Popovich like move.

I think it has more to do with RB depth. At least I hope it is.

[pgardn]

I think it has more to do with RB depth. At least I hope it is.

Probably correct.

As the Dline is now exhausted.

[DMX7]

Eric Cartman cutout is in the stands. I love it.

[GAustex]

This, I dont get.
So he is the best RB on the team by a mile and you dont play him because Fr?
This is a Popovich like move.
I wonder if they do not want to overwork the young RB or there is a commitment to #2 due to him being a team player?

[pgardn]

I wonder if they do not want to overwork the young RB or there is a commitment to #2 due to him being a team player?

Roschon needs to run straight ahead.
He has zero outside speed.
And yep, he has always been there to pick up duties.
The RB position has run its course imo. The Colorado dude is miles better than him.

[Billybass]

So far Herman getting outcoached again. We need a change

[GAustex]

Well WTF

[DMX7]

LOL, the fans basically coached that first drive and they scored.

[Kermit]

Herman, you fucking retard. See, it’s not that hard.

[pgardn]

He actually let Robinson receive the fckn kickoff????

Just beautiful, give him the opportunity to get crushed and then run him?
I just dont get it.

Good to see C. Thompson to at least get a chance.
Maybe this is a sign we are moving on.

[pgardn]

I see Overshown gone.

crap...

[Kermit]

I see Overshown gone.

crap...

Nope. I mean, the dude slid at the same time Overshown dove for the tackle. He still had the ability to twist so that he didn’t target. Pretty impressive. Targeting is idiotic.

[Kermit]

Yeesh. Casey Thompson looks awesome.

[GAustex]

I did not see where Sam got hurt but he was dragging his arm in that one replay they showed.

[Billybass]

Dayummmm. Thompson looks GREAT !!!!

[pgardn]

Nope. I mean, the dude slid at the same time Overshown dove for the tackle. He still had the ability to twist so that he didn’t target. Pretty impressive. Targeting is idiotic.

It is a nutty rule.
But with the QB sliding and that type of hit...
We got VERY lucky. (And thats an opinion based on a rule no one apparently has a good feel for based on the guys who are supposed to understand it)
It is the ALAMO bowl and we are Texas.

[bluetrumpet]

Feel bad for Sam but man Thompson is launching the ball with ease!

[Das Texan]

Fuck amazing seeing a QB who can throw the ball!

[pgardn]

He actually let Robinson receive the fckn kickoff????

Just beautiful, give him the opportunity to get crushed and then run him?
I just dont get it.

Good to see C. Thompson to at least get a chance.
Maybe this is a sign we are moving on.

The more he throws like this, the more chance we have for getting some transfer receivers.

[pgardn]

Tyler Johnson absolutely destroyed his man on Bijans run.
So good to see.

[DMX7]

He actually let Robinson receive the fckn kickoff????


D'SHAWN JAMISON, the other #5

[DMX7]

This injury probably makes it more likely that Sam comes back.

[Kermit]

This injury probably makes it more likely that Sam comes back.

Noooooooo. Please noooooo. Please God no. Noooooooooooooooo.

[Billybass]

Did Thompson redshirt ?

[GAustex]

Is Colorado fodder?

[pgardn]

D'SHAWN JAMISON, the other #5

That again.

I dont have the option of my guys around me helping.
But I have made the mistake before (number problem) so I was absolutely appalled we would take the chance of getting Bijan cracked up.

Btw... if we needed a big return at the end of a big game, I would not mind seeing Bijan in that role.
Although our blocking sucks so bad I dont know that it would matter.

[pgardn]

Okay lets make this easy.

If we beat Colorado they were/are fodder.
If its tight or we lose, they are a decent team.

Take it or leave it.

[DMX7]

Did Thompson redshirt ?

Yes, and technically he gets another de facto redshirt season because of COVID.

[GAustex]

I sure did not expect Colorado to take 3 plays to score

[DMX7]

Okay lets make this easy.

If we beat Colorado they were/are fodder.
If its tight or we lose, they are a decent team.

Take it or leave it.

This is a game Texas is supposed to win on talent alone.

[Billybass]

That Colorado qb runs like a deer ! That guy is FAST

[DMX7]

Thompson and Robinson... Suddenly, the future looks brighter.

[pgardn]

This is a game Texas is supposed to win on talent alone.

So Colorado is fodder?
Especially since we scored again and we are playing with a shitload of new guys?
And in the Big 12 everyone but OU is fodder I guess, but somehow we lost 3 games.

[pgardn]

This injury probably makes it more likely that Sam comes back.

Its a good way to go out.
Under this type of offense he will get injured again.
I would bet he is gone.

[pgardn]

Now we are getting guys wide open.
Thompson actually threw that short but my god...

[GAustex]

#2 with the highlight run

[pgardn]

#2 with the highlight run

Ok Im going to give you fodder.
Colorado tackling on that play was absolutely pitiful.
Now lets get ready for all the great recruiting news.

[playblair]

stan drayton needs to be fired he is responsbile for rb rotations...........he was also responsible for treating zeke elliot how he is treating bijan

[Vito Corleone]

stan drayton needs to be fired he is responsbile for rb rotations...........he was also responsible for treating zeke elliot how he is treating bijan

You're a f'king moron. Of all the offensive coaches Drayton is the only one you keep. He is a priority, fire him and Bijan likely transfers.

[playblair]

as ive said since his sophomore year sam ehlinger is the problem..........he refuses to keep the ball on zone reads & it kills the offense he cant complete a deep pass...........

[Vito Corleone]

https://i.imgur.com/2qkMfF9.jpg

[woofwoof]

You keep nobody. Very rarely does any leftover coach get rehired by new head coach. I dont believe Bijan tranfers. He seems committed to Texas, not Drayton. He says God wanted him there, not to follow a position coach.

[Vito Corleone]

You keep nobody. Very rarely does any leftover coach get rehired by new head coach. I dont believe Bijan tranfers. He seems committed to Texas, not Drayton. He says God wanted him there, not to follow a position coach.

He switched his commitment especially because of Drayton. Drayton is a very magnetic person and I'm pretty sure he will not be happy to lose the coach he specifically came to Texas for.

Besides that, Drayton is a hell of a coach, he will be unemployed for about 2 seconds if Texas fires him.

[Trill Clinton]

Man it was fun finally having a qb who can make throws down field. I know Sam is a fan favorite but the guy is inaccurate as hell. No way he comes back another year after seeing Thompson's performance last night.

[Kermit]

Man it was fun finally having a qb who can make throws down field. I know Sam is a fan favorite but the guy is inaccurate as hell. No way he comes back another year after seeing Thompson's performance last night.

I’ve defended Sam a lot, called him the best quarterback since Colt, appreciated his toughness and willingness to play hurt...but holy shit Casey just came in there looking like the second coming. I mean part of it is that Colorado probably isn’t that good but still. Sam hasn’t looked that accurate ever. Here’s to hoping that whatever coach we have next year makes it clear to Sam that Casey’s the starter no matter who is on the roster next season.

[Neo.]

tbh, if Sam simply had either A) a decent deep ball, or B) a quick and accurate short to medium passing game, Texas probably goes undefeated this year in the conference this year. he might actually have been a bigger problem than fans realized, simply because the QB situation has been so bad since Colt left. we've complained how badly the talent here has underperformed. maybe sam actually is a big reason for that, since defenses frequently key in on the run game and leave outside corners 1-on-1. the only receivers to shine were guys like duvernay and LJ, guys who could bail him out of bad throws. guys like Colin, Eagles and others have underperformed due to his trash deep ball

[GAustex]

Sam maybe have been hurt shoulder longer than let on.
Also his leadership and never give up-hopefully Thompson got some of that

[Trill Clinton]

I’ve defended Sam a lot, called him the best quarterback since Colt, appreciated his toughness and willingness to play hurt...but holy shit Casey just came in there looking like the second coming. I mean part of it is that Colorado probably isn’t that good but still. Sam hasn’t looked that accurate ever. Here’s to hoping that whatever coach we have next year makes it clear to Sam that Casey’s the starter no matter who is on the roster next season.


Yea man I like Sam too but he isn't a QB. I'm curious if UT should have kept Shane B and let Sam transfer or play a Taysom Hill type role in the offense.

[rjv]

not so sure what will happen with the UT quarterback scenario but that CU quarterback was god awful.

[Billybass]

not so sure what will happen with the UT quarterback scenario but that CU quarterback was god awful.
Yep. He made our defense look good (mostly)

[Billybass]

Yep. He made our defense look good (mostly)
And our defense has been our biggest problem, by far.

[Juan Grande]

Some more background on Brian Kelly

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/notre-dame-is-running-out-of-reasons-to-keep-brian-kelly-after-latest-indiscretion/

https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=6219373

https://syracusefan.com/threads/remember-that-time-when-brian-kelly-killed-a-student-manager.37419/

[Vito Corleone]

I don't know that I would hold the coach responsible for the death in an accident. He is responsible for holding football practice not for the safety of the staff. If a kid died because he was run over by a golf cart driven by another staff member would it also be the football coaches fault? If I had to blame someone it would be the media coordinator who put the kid up in the tower or the person who built the tower that was blown over. They are both probably more to blame than the football coach.

I would also only blame Brian Kelly for the cheating scandle if he specifically told the manager to help the athletes to cheat. Sometimes we need to accept personal responsibility for our actions and quit acting like it's always the person in charge fault.

I wouldn't even consider those two things when looking at Kelly as a possible replacement for Herman.

[Juan Grande]

I don't know that I would hold the coach responsible for the death in an accident. He is responsible for holding football practice not for the safety of the staff. ....

The story, as I understand it, was that he took his team off the practice field during a thunderstorm, then stopped to tell the kid to climb up his coaching tower and retrieve something of his. It is just one small example but people who follow him closely say it is consistent with his general behavior.

[Billybass]

I don’t understand why Kelley would leave Notre Dame to come here. Surely they have the money to retain a coach. He already has an established program there. He would be jumping into a tough scenario here. Texas head coach is NOT an easy job.

[Juan Grande]

https://twitter.com/Chron_MattYoung/status/1344684962252001281

[Vito Corleone]

I don’t understand why Kelley would leave Notre Dame to come here. Surely they have the money to retain a coach. He already has an established program there. He would be jumping into a tough scenario here. Texas head coach is NOT an easy job.

It's a long shot. Kelly only makes 1.8 million as I'm told. Texas is looking to triple his salary to see if they can convince him to come. I think he is just looking to squeeze a little more juice out of Notre Dame but you never know.

[Eastexhorn]

Kelly no his OL coach yes.

[Billybass]

Seems like Groundhog Day with Herman. Future looks good as usual with his bowl win. Reality will come when we lose to OU next year.

[Vito Corleone]

Seems like Groundhog Day with Herman. Future looks good as usual with his bowl win. Reality will come when we lose to OU next year.

Herman won't be back.

[Cowhorns01]

Herman won't be back.

Hopefully he won't be back

[satam55]

I don’t understand why Kelley would leave Notre Dame to come here. Surely they have the money to retain a coach. He already has an established program there. He would be jumping into a tough scenario here. Texas head coach is NOT an easy job.


IMO, Texas is an easier job than Notre Dame. I don't think that's debatable.

[DMX7]

Herman won't be back.

I think he’s coming back. We will see who is wrong about that.

[pgardn]

I think he’s coming back. We will see who is wrong about that.

I think he is too, unless some coach comes out of the woodwork that pleases recruits, current team, and the hard-core paying alumni.

I think there might be some faith in our new coordinators that holdS this together. and if we win the conference... I don’t even wanna think about it, it’s a mess of mixed emotions.

all I ask for is consistency throughout a game. even in the bowl game where we absolutely crushed Georgia, we gave them two touchdowns due to celebration and lack of discipline late in the game

[Billybass]

Ok, since you think he stays, where would you rank him as a coach in our conference?

OU coach has to be ranked higher, probably Iowa St. coach too.

OK st. ? TCU ?

Im not for making a change unless it improves us, but having 3rd or less ranked coach in the conference is not good

[Cowhorns01]

Herman is 1-3 against Patterson. So he is definitely behind 3 for sure. I would take gundy over herman too.

[woofwoof]

Herman dropped

[DMX7]

I think he’s coming back. We will see who is wrong about that.

I'm here to eat crow. I wasn't expecting him to be out but he is.

[Dennis the Menace]

Steve Sarkisian has to be a joke

[DMX7]

If Steve Sarkisian really is the guy then is a head scratcher.

[Dennis the Menace]

If Steve Sarkisian really is the guy then is a head scratcher.

If it’s Sarkisian then the management of this program is actually much worse than what we previously thought...

[bluebellmaniac]

Whoa!!!

Kudos to CDC for keeping a tight lid on this until it actually happened.

Looking forward to what happens next.

[DMX7]

Whoa!!!

Kudos to CDC for keeping a tight lid on this until it actually happened.

Looking forward to what happens next.

It feels like change just for the sake of change unless Urban is the guy. I can't think of anyone else available that is a clearly better choice than Herman. Herman did at least win 4 bowl games which is more than our last two coaches did at the end of their run here.

[woofwoof]

I'm not behind Sark. Not really behind Kelly but I do believe he'd be an upgrade over Herman. Still holding hope for Urban even though, unfortunately, I doubt it.

[bluebellmaniac]

It feels like change just for the sake of change unless Urban is the guy. I can't think of anyone else available that is a clearly better choice than Herman. Herman did at least win 4 bowl games which is more than our last two coaches did at the end of their run here.

When reports surfaced that he was actively looking for another HC position, that is what finished it. The negative effect on recruiting required a change at that point. It would have been negligent in CDC's part to not act. He was tanking the recruitment process at that point.

Sark would be a great pickup.

[woofwoof]

I'm not anybody important but can somebody sell me on Steve Sark?

[benefactor]

In other news, horns looking good against Kansas so far

[Kermit]

The fuck? Steve Sarkisian? Well, better start drinking boys. You know our head coach is going to.

[Dennis the Menace]

The fuck? Steve Sarkisian? Well, better start drinking boys. You know our head coach is going to.

Lead by example. Cheers

[Vito Corleone]

I'm just shaking my head right now. Honestly I would have promoted Chris Ash before I took a run at a guy like Stave Sark.

[tlongII]

Lol Texas hiring a drunk for HC!

[woofwoof]

People starting to say he turned down the job now... whats really true.

[GAustex]

Institution is poorly run top to bottom
No surprise this is a clusterfuck

[bluebellmaniac]

Wow, Shaka has got the team humming this year. Tore up KU.

[bluebellmaniac]

People starting to say he turned down the job now... whats really true.

What people? Every site says Sark is the guy. Link?

[benefactor]

The defense is next level and no more iso ball. This is their best chance to make a run

[woofwoof]

David pollack posted it on Twitter but Feldman is saying he didn't hear that. He believes he's in.

Reading off IT

[Kermit]

And fuck you Tim Brando. Suck my diminutively sized dick.

[woofwoof]

Whats the story with Tim Brando?

[Kermit]

Whats the story with Tim Brando?

He unfortunately exists?

[Billybass]

i think that if UT was willing to take a shot at Urban, then why not go after Steve Sarkisian? I think he'd strongly consider the offer since he likely wants a head coaching job in the near future. he'd be a great fit for the big XII, imo.
Rjv called sarkasian 3 weeks ago. Kudos !

now...what can u tell me about him ?

[Billybass]

On another note JaTavion Sanders had a dominating performance against Highland Park yesterday in a Denton Ryan win !!!!
He was double teamed the whole game, and still was outstanding! Looking more and more like a wide receiver as opposed to a DE

[tlongII]

Rjv called sarkasian 3 weeks ago. Kudos !

now...what can u tell me about him ?

Well, I can tell you he’s a drunk.

[Dennis the Menace]

Maybe the big money donors wanted someone they can get hammered with?

[Juan Grande]

Well, I can tell you he’s a drunk.

5 years sober
But I guess always alcoholic

[Billybass]

5 years is a long time. Most people that make fun of an alcoholic, have a problem with liquor themselves. We all have a skeleton in the closet.

I would like to hear a respected Aggie opinion (rjv). They have been facing him for a while.

Main question: Can the guy beat OU ?

[bluebellmaniac]

Bama seems to be doing alright. It's all in the open, so that'll help.keep him on the straight and narrow.

We need this.

[DMX7]

Nick Saban would not have tolerated a drunk on his coaching staff, so I think we should give Steve some credit for that. It's Steve's actual coaching ability that concerns me the most.

By the way, Herman has a $15 million buyout for the last three seasons.

[DMX7]

He unfortunately exists?
why are you cursing him? What did he do?

[bluebellmaniac]

Herman won't be back.

You are well connected Don Corleone.

[Kermit]

why are you cursing him? What did he do?

He breathes. Can’t I just hate a motherfucker for their anti-Texas commentary? When did that become wrong? Also, fuck you Spencer Tillman.

[rjv]

Rjv called sarkasian 3 weeks ago. Kudos !

now...what can u tell me about him ?

Sarkasian has paid his dues and earned another shot. He's regarded as a brilliant football mind (yes, so was Herman) but Sarkasian has reigned in some of his demons. It's not a hire without risks but I always felt Sarkasian made sense once Urban was out of the picture.

[Juan Grande]

https://twitter.com/EricMetcalf21/status/1345490866224304128

[Billybass]

This was CDCs hire. He did it behind the scenes. I have to believe he did his homework. I feel a lot better now about our future than I did yesterday.
I am excited to see what he can do with our recruiting classes.

[bluebellmaniac]

This was CDCs hire. He did it behind the scenes. I have to believe he did his homework. I feel a lot better now about our future than I did yesterday.
I am excited to see what he can do with our recruiting classes.

This.

[Juan Grande]

5 years sober
But I guess always alcoholic

https://twitter.com/JeffHowe247/status/1345516328334065667

[pgardn]

I do know Alabama’s offense improved a tremendous amount with Sarkisian.
but everything else, the way he recruits the way he gets along with kids is he going to keep any coordinators? It’s a mystery.

[Biggems]

Herman was not wanted by most everyone here. Now he is gone. I ay give Sark a chance. Bama not ony recruits well, but they actually develop their talent, and dominate almost every game. Look at the offensive studs that have come out of Bama during the Sark years.

He will have Thompson, Robinson, and Johnson next year, along with some very good WR and TE talent. What I am looking forward to the most is the OL development that has been lacking for over a decade.

[Biggems]

Give me a branch off the saban tree any day over a rat from Urban's swamp.

[Harry Callahan]

Hermann made my skin crawl. Glad he's gone.

Sark come off as an actual adult at the virtual intro Press Conference and coach Saban suffers no fools when he brings someone in.

Hope the new coach gets things going in the right direction. The last two coaching hires have been absolute train wrecks.

[Biggems]

Hermann made my skin crawl. Glad he's gone.

Sark come off as an actual adult at the virtual intro Press Conference and coach Saban suffers no fools when he brings someone in.

Hope the new coach gets things going in the right direction. The last two coaching hires have been absolute train wrecks.

I liked Strong, just not for us. He at least acted like a mature adult for the most part. He did made bad hires for his staff and was in way over his head.

[Biggems]

25 pt win in Allen Field house...insane. we never beat Kansas, especially in Kansas. We dominated them.

If not for a poor final 3 minutes vs Nova, we woul be undefeated.....though, I think that close loss was good for character and chemistry building.

[bluebellmaniac]

https://texassports.com/news/2021/1/2/texas-longhorns-name-steve-sarkisian-head-football-coach.aspx?fbclid=IwAR3JQSJluNAmeNeMTxOf6cM8GE-bjGdWxvixQT6DPGqqgotW8QcZXoeb1BM


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30638892/texas-longhorns-hire-alabama-crimson-tide-oc-steve-sarkisian-new-head-coach

Official

[DMX7]

Now he is gone. I ay give Sark a chance. Bama not ony recruits well, but they actually develop their talent, and dominate almost every game. Look at the offensive studs that have come out of Bama during the Sark years.


I'm definitely going to give him a chance but let's not pretend like Bama didn't recruit well before Sark. I'm not sure how much credit I can give to him for that. He basically just maintained the status quo there, no??

[Kermit]

I'm definitely going to give him a chance but let's not pretend like Bama didn't recruit well before Sark. I'm not sure how much credit I can give to him for that. He basically just maintained the status quo there, no??

Yup. The question will be how he handles the pressure when Saban isn’t there to cover him. The responsibility of the role didn’t sit so well the last time.

[Biggems]

Touche' both dmx and Kermit

[Juan Grande]

I'm definitely going to give him a chance but let's not pretend like Bama didn't recruit well before Sark. I'm not sure how much credit I can give to him for that. He basically just maintained the status quo there, no??

Disagree. He drug the Bama offense into the modern era - Pro-Spread with an aggressive downfield passing attack

[Biggems]

Who gives a shit? Maybe they should’ve won more, then they wouldn’t be acting like children begging for their coaches job. I imagine there will be an exodus of players, coupled with an influx of transfers. These players need to grow the fuck up.

Is that the same Mitchell that keeps getting targeting penalties? I like his physical play and he sees to be around the ball a lot, but he doesn't always use his head out their, well at least correctly. I love overshown. That kid is a playmaker. I hope he stays.


I would never go to a school cause of a coach, I would go cause of the school. Now, I would not go cause of a coach, someone like that abusive Rutgers coach a few years ago.

But, had I played football, and I was good enough to play in college, Texas would have been my choice, had we been great or a bottom feeder. I could have followed in the footsteps of Robert Reed and Chris Samuels, Judson alums who bled burnt orange....

HOOK EM

[Eastexhorn]

Give Sark credit for Jones development at QB. IMO that is where Texas trails OU QB.

[pgardn]

Disagree. He drug the Bama offense into the modern era - Pro-Spread with an aggressive downfield passing attack

and he drug Nick Saban along with him.
that’s pretty impressive


The same Nick Saban that said there are too many plays run in college football with the hurry up offense and it’s causing too many injuries

at the same time he is saying that the SEC is the roughest hardest hitting conference, and throwing the football is for sissies

fucking hypocrite

[Billybass]

Here’s hoping that he can bring in a qualified OL coach. It’s been a while since we had one

[Harry Callahan]

I really believe coach Strong was a good man who just couldn't get the program going. He wanted to do things the right way.

TH just came off as a dirtbag pretty much the entire time he was there. Did not watch more than maybe two quarters of UT football the entire season. I'm a UT grad, but the BS coming from TH - I simply could not stomach it.

It tells you something about Urban Meyer too entertaining the idea of replacing one of his own coaches. Not a good look.

I hope the new coach can minimize the stupid mistakes, bring in top tier quarterbacks, and coach up the OL to an adequate standard.

[Billybass]

From BurntOrangeNation:
The premier name is Kyle Flood, the former Rutgers (https://www.onthebanks.com/) head coach who worked with Sarkisian with the Falcons before joining him in Tuscaloosa. It was Flood who helped convinced the Brockermeyer brothers to spurn their Texas ties and sign with Alabama. As an offensive line coach, Flood would represent a home-run hire, but he could also serve as Sarkisian’s offensive coordinator, a title he held at Rutgers before taking over the program.

[texas4ever]

Sam is gone. Good luck!

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[texas4ever]

Per IT, Texas RB coach Drayton is expected to be retained.

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[texas4ever]

From IT:

Here's what we are hearing (Sark staff)


With Stave Sarkisian expected to be officially announced as the next head coach at Texas, here is what we are hearing on potential coaches on the staff.


*A.J. Milwee - QB coach
Two years of analyst tutelage from Sarkisian at Alabama.


*Stan Drayton - RB coach


*Keary Colbert - WR coach
Currently the WR coach at USC


*Jeff Banks - TE/Special teams
Currently TE/Special teams coach at Alabama


*Kyle Flood or Brad Davis - OL
Flood is currently the OL coach at Alabama, but is expected to be up for NFL OL jobs.
Brad Davis is currently the OL coach at Arkansas. Davis is highly thought of to the point of Alabama trying to hire him in the last two years.


*Chris Ash or Will Muschamp - DC
Chris Ash Co-DC and Mike Stoops Co-DC/OLB's
Mike Stoops is currently an analyst at Alabama.


Will Muschamp would retain Coleman Hutzler as LB coach.


*Bo Davis - DL
Currently the DL coach of the Detroit Lions


Keep in mind these are all potential candidates.

[texas4ever]

I think Ash should be retained. He did a solid job and the Defense was doing really good by the end of the year.

[texas4ever]

Bobby Burton said Muschamp is a no go as he is hearing that he will be the DC at Georgia eventually.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1cqQVAXHzo

[DMX7]

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How can you not like Sam? The guy is tough as nails and I wish him the best at the next level. That said, it is the right move for the program also to turn the page and give guys a fresh start. I can barely think of anyone on the roster whose starting job is truly set in stone for next season except Bijon Robinson at RB.

[Vito Corleone]

I love the idea of retaining Chris Ash and the defensive staff. i also love the idea of upgrading the the offensive staff, what I don't want is anything to do with Mike Stoops. He sucks eggs, he was protected by Bob and given credit that was due for Brent Venerables. The dude is nothing short of a poser.

[Vito Corleone]

How can you not like Sam? The guy is tough as nails and I wish him the best at the next level. That said, it is the right move for the program also to turn the page and give guys a fresh start. I can barely think of anyone on the roster whose starting job is truly set in stone for next season except Bijon Robinson at RB.

Sam is a throwback. He would be an NFL HOF QB 50 years ago. Tough as nails, adequate passer for that time frame, scratch that he would be a great passer for that time frame. But in this day and age, he is not not what the game requires from a QB.

[texas4ever]

I love the idea of retaining Chris Ash and the defensive staff. i also love the idea of upgrading the the offensive staff, what I don't want is anything to do with Mike Stoops. He sucks eggs, he was protected by Bob and given credit that was due for Brent Venerables. The dude is nothing short of a poser.

It has been confirmed Stoops isn't happening.

[texas4ever]

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His quotes: "Texas is a program that I've always liked since a kid, now that Coach (Steve) Sarkisian is going there I'm interested to see if they can bring the tradition back to a respectable program that can contend for championships. If so I would give them a shot to recruit me."

[texas4ever]

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[pgardn]

I think Ash should be retained. He did a solid job and the Defense was doing really good by the end of the year.

totally agree

assistant coaches just being shucked because the head coach is fired seems rash
I understand incoming coaches want their own buddies that they may have promised something to. Sarkisian needs to have a good sit down with Ash and go over the season, then I hope he comes around to seeing the possibilities.

[pgardn]

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sorry the talent isn’t there like the top teams.
Garrett Wilson and and Waddle did NOT pick UT.

let’s not even get into the offensive line.
The best players on our team are B Robinson, Joseph Ossai, and Overshown. All of these guys might likely be sitting on the bench as players at Ohio State or Alabama.
Thanks for the win now attitude but please be real.

[Neo.]

disagree

there's plenty of talent. maybe not clemson or bama level, but still plenty high enough to win the conference and get a playoff spot.

[texas4ever]

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https://247sports.com/Player/Maalik-Murphy-46079369/

[woofwoof]

Players only meeting called today per IT. No word on who called/initiated it. I'm hoping Casey Thompson...

[pgardn]

disagree

there's plenty of talent. maybe not clemson or bama level, but still plenty high enough to win the conference and get a playoff spot.

so you think Sarkissian was referring to conference championship talent?
because we are not even close to a division one championship

[Neo.]

so you think Sarkissian was referring to conference championship talent?
because we are not even close to a division one championship

I don't think it's as far off as you think. depth is lacking sure, but having highly talented players is not an issue at all. trash coaching and a highly overrated QB was more of the issue imo

[bluetrumpet]

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

Per IT, the only offensive coach to be retained is RB Coach Stan Drayton.

[bluetrumpet]

Any updates on the defensive side of the ball?

[woofwoof]

Muschamp probably out, headed for UGA I believe. Been hearing names like Bo Davis again for dline, along with Tosh Lupoi, not sure what that means for Giles or Hagan.

[texas4ever]

Barry Odom’s name has been rumored today on several sites. He wouldn’t be a bad option at DC. He’s the DC at Arkansas this year.

[texas4ever]

Any updates on the defensive side of the ball?

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[texas4ever]

Gerry Hamilton today said coach Sark reached out RB LJ Johnson. I still think Texas has really good chance of getting his commitment now that Drayton is staying.

[texas4ever]

Looks like the sooners are trying to poach Juco grad transfer and Texas signee CB Darion Dunn. OrangeBloods first to report it earlier. There's some thought that he wasn't 100% on board before Herman was let go from an enrollment standpoint.

[woofwoof]

IT saying Roschon, Casey and Josh Thompson called the meeting to get everybody on the same page and make sure they stay in shape. Point of emphasis on hip mobility.

[texas4ever]

Players only meeting called today per IT. No word on who called/initiated it. I'm hoping Casey Thompson...

It was Casey and a few others. It went very well and everyone is excited for the new coach and are ready to move forward. (OrangeBloods)

[texas4ever]

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[DMX7]

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He's walking away with a $15 million paycheck and he will land somewhere decent I assume so there can't be too much hard feelings. I have been a Herman supporter but this year was just not good enough in terms of both recruiting and winning big games, so I am fine with moving on... All I can do is hope that the boosters are helping pick up the tab for this though.

[pgardn]

I don't think it's as far off as you think. depth is lacking sure, but having highly talented players is not an issue at all. trash coaching and a highly overrated QB was more of the issue imo

It is most certainly an issue.
Take a look at the NFL draft.
Thats not all due to coaching.

And in your opinion the National Championship can be won next year?
Better Fire Sarkisian now we don’t have the horses.
Start with the Oline and think about how it looks. We don’t need the Brockemeyer types?

[pgardn]

I don't think it's as far off as you think. depth is lacking sure, but having highly talented players is not an issue at all. trash coaching and a highly overrated QB was more of the issue imo

How far off do I think it is?

[texas4ever]

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[Neo.]

It is most certainly an issue.
Take a look at the NFL draft.
Thats not all due to coaching.

And in your opinion the National Championship can be won next year?
Better Fire Sarkisian now we don’t have the horses.
Start with the Oline and think about how it looks. We don’t need the Brockemeyer types?

no at this moment i dont think texas could win the natty next year, but i certainly think they can win the big 12 and get into the CFP, which is far better than anything thats been done during hermans years, even though they had the talent level to do that every year hes been here


How far off do I think it is?

you said you think they aren't even close. i disagree.

[texas4ever]

Edit: Alabama TE Coach Banks looks like a no go.....

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[texas4ever]

There are some good vibes going around on RB LJ Johnson from all sites.

[Juan Grande]

There are some good vibes going around on RB LJ Johnson from all sites.


Here is the TFB version


I chatted with LJ Johnson a bit and it sounds like coach Sarkisian has already been in touch with him. In terms of his decision LJ tells me, “I’m still deciding. I still won’t have a decision probably until February”.

He did fill out his school application at Texas and sources on the OU side tell me he did the application for OU. I would assume he did the same for TAMU. That’s no small thing – those applications are long, so typically if a kid goes through that it means they are either very serious about going to that school or are committed.

We do believe OU has decided to not take a high school back. So, for now, I believe they are out

If it was about keeping Stan Drayton, then we should be in good shape