2021 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[DMX7]

With Urban, we have to realize UT would be getting a coach that isn't going to stick around long but no one cares if he wins a championship. The question is: could he win in such a short period of time?

Also, is his style of play going to work in the air-it-out pass happy Big XII?

[Juan Grande]

I never cut and paste stuff straight from other sites, but it's getting tossed back and forth from every site now. I'll do so also in regards to the search of a new Coach. From Orangebloods:
This is still a story that we're working to gain meaningful details on, but I do want to confirm that we have been told by a source with connections to the current Texas Board of Regends that chairman Kevin Eltife met with Urban Meyer in Columbus for what is being described as the "first" meeting with Meyer in discussions about him becoming the next Texas head football coach.
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Ketch has already been forced to walk that back, or part of it

[texas4ever]

Ketch has already been forced to walk that back, or part of it

I saw that. Sounds like someone didn't like what he wrote earlier or who he said was potentially there or not.

[DesignatedT]

:lol urban meyer

[Trill Clinton]

:lol urban meyer https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/laughing-meme-man-mask-png.403657/

[bluebellmaniac]

I saw that. Sounds like someone didn't like what he wrote earlier or who he said was potentially there or not.

Sounds.like he would have preferred to remain anonymous.

[pgardn]

:lol urban meyer

Jackie fn Sherrill
Dennis fn Franchione
Jimbo "crablegs" Fischer

And an Aggie laughs.
How is that big natty ring the Traggidies gave Jimbo... should be on the finger very soon in the one team SEC BAMA?

[texas4ever]

From TFB:

Their update states UM wants complete control over his staff (with 3 year contracts) as well as control over Associate Director for football ops and complete control over support staff (including team physicians and training staff). Additionally, supposedly demanding a say in updated facilities (including indoor facilities) to include a grass practice field and two artificial practice fields (with two different types of turf)

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[Trill Clinton]

From TFB:

Their update states UM wants complete control over his staff (with 3 year contracts) as well as control over Associate Director for football ops and complete control over support staff (including team physicians and training staff). Additionally, supposedly demanding a say in updated facilities (including indoor facilities) to include a grass practice field and two artificial practice fields (with two different types of turf)

thats reasonable

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

From SI:

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/buzz-urban-meyer-assembling-a-what-if-staff-to-join-him-at-university-of-texas

[pgardn]

From TFB:

Their update states UM wants complete control over his staff (with 3 year contracts) as well as control over Associate Director for football ops and complete control over support staff (including team physicians and training staff). Additionally, supposedly demanding a say in updated facilities (including indoor facilities) to include a grass practice field and two artificial practice fields (with two different types of turf)

Get Benefactor in here.
This will require some benefacting.

[Dennis the Menace]

Let the chef control the kitchen. It’s that simple.

Give him a life time supply of free meals from Pluckers to top it off. Whatever it takes

[bluebellmaniac]

thats reasonable

I commented to this effect, and it got deleted. WTF?!

[Billybass]

I’m thinking Saban gets what he wants. Why give a guy that kind of money, and hamstring him ? Put him in a position to succeed, or get somebody that will kiss ass and keep losing.

[Kermit]

I commented to this effect, and it got deleted. WTF?!

Someone got mod power and has had priapism thus the uncalled for deletion of posts.

[woofwoof]

Whats the concensus? Do we get him?

[Dennis the Menace]

Whats the concensus? Do we get him?

Does the annual flu epidemic come from Asia each year? Yes.

Provide for whatever he needs. No isn’t an option. If this is truly a football university leadership will get it done.

[leemajors]

Someone got mod power and has had priapism thus the uncalled for deletion of posts.

:lol

[GAustex]

Well I am pretty sure Alabama has on average linemen that are 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier and run just as or faster than anything UT has. Similar for most any position.
To say UT has the same or similar athletes as Bama is just not true. Or Clemson or Ohio State.
Got dam that wide receiver from Bama that ran around all over the place-UT for sure got nothing like that.

[Trill Clinton]

Well I am pretty sure Alabama has on average linemen that are 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier and run just as or faster than anything UT has. Similar for most any position.
To say UT has the same or similar athletes as Bama is just not true. Or Clemson or Ohio State.
Got dam that wide receiver from Bama that ran around all over the place-UT for sure got nothing like that.


Bama's best WR this year is from Texas

[Billybass]

Top talent from Texas high schools have NOT been going to Texas last 2 years. If u followed recruiting u would know that

[Eastexhorn]

I doubt if Texas has a player that could start for OU little on Alabama.Maybe one OL but would be close.

Texas has talent just not that kind.

[texas4ever]

Thursday Morning Bobby Burton:

This is about as quick an update as I can write.


Here’s what I know at this hour:


Texas continues its pursuit of Urban Meyer.


I don’t want to spend my time refuting other reports, but I have not heard from any of the powers-that-be that Texas and Meyer have agreed to terms either verbally or on paper and that Meyer will return to coaching.


But I can say, in larger terms, that both parties know what the other wants and will provide.


All of this to say that Texas, as of late last night, had not been told no or yes.


So the pursuit continues.


Obviously, this situation could turn on a dime with either a definitive yes or no. Theoretically, we could get the answer at any moment or a few days into the future.


Eric will have a more detailed post later this morning.

[GAustex]

If by “pretty sure” you mean “completely wrong and pulling numbers out of your ass” then yeah.

https://crescentcitysports.com/size-matters-college-footballs-biggest-offensive-linemen-of-2020/

And Texas has a top 10 recruiting class every year. The talent is there.
Stipulate that o-line size for UT is up there. I-line talent is not.
I would be interested if d-line is. UT d-line big guys are short and slow while Bama has some monsters. Bama backs, backers and receivers are faster for sure. Anyway that’s what I think. Peace.

[Neo.]

I doubt if Texas has a player that could start for OU little on Alabama.Maybe one OL but would be close.

Texas has talent just not that kind.

being able to start on other teams isnt an indicator of whether they are recruiting talented players or not

its reflective of the crappy development of the players

[texas4ever]

IT:

A high-ranking University of Texas official on the current state of Texas’ approach to Urban Meyer:


“It is all up to Urban at this point.”

[Eastexhorn]

When it comes to nondevelopement of players only OL and WR comes to mind.

[GAustex]

Why then do Texas DBs seem to always be a step away/slow/behind

[Juan Grande]

Keaontay Ingram on his way out

[Neo.]

When it comes to nondevelopement of players only OL and WR comes to mind.

then how do you explain the regression of sterns and foster?

or the fact that sam has basically made no improvements since he was a sophomore?

the constant issues among the entire team with miscommunications, poor tackling, and penalties?

keontays inability to hold onto a ball?

or the fact that kris boyd who was absolute trash, was the best CB they have had in years, despite plenty of 4 and 5 star recruits, even since he was here?

fact is herman has done an abysmal job of player development despite having a top 10 ranked class each year except his first. he has more than enough talent to have competed for more than just ONE opportunity to play for a conference championship

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[Vito Corleone]

A few thought.

On the Ingram situation. His biggest issue as I see it is between his ears. Ever since he dropped that pass in the endzone against LSU he has doubted himself. Nothing wrong with his ability or development, he needs a sports psychologist to help him work out his issue and he will be back to being a very productive player. Also keep in mind, I am starting to see some improvement on defense with our DBs, but they are a work in progress because they have barely gotten to know our DB coaches.

I don't know what to say about our oline coaching except when I spoke with some Auburn fans after Texas hired Hand, all they said was he is your problem now. They were happy to see him go. At the time, I thought it was sour grapes, but now I see why they thought this. He can't recruit, he can't develop, and he has no idea how to adjust the blocking to stop what the defense is doing. Joke is on us.



Every level of this team reeks of lack of development. The fact that there is no punishment for on the field mistakes adds to this problem. Every player needs to be punished if they commit a foul in a game, fumble a ball, drop a pass or throw an Int. This is part of taking responsibility for your actions. When players are held responsible, they will improve their concentration and improve their performance. Players will give their coach exactly what is expected of them; this is a fact.

Herman was not ready for this job, that is why he failed, he is trying to teach boys to be men, but he continues to act just as juvanile. Kids can't teach other kids how to be something they are not. One day Tom Herman will grow up and when he does, he will be a great coach, until then he will be the one holding himsel back.

As far as Texas goes, there is plenty of talent here, just not leadership and accountability. This is why UM is so badly needed, we not only need a great coach, but we need someone that everyone in the program can follow into battle.

[Horns2319]

Bama's best WR this year is from Texas

And so is Ohio State’s. Both recruitments that could’ve ours.

[Billybass]

And so is Ohio State’s. Both recruitments that could’ve ours.
And the Brock brothers and Ewers and on and on and on

[texas4ever]

Bobby Burton Friday:

Despite reports out of Columbus from Kirk Barton, a former player of Urban Meyer, that Meyer is not taking the Texas head coaching position, I have no new reliable news on the Urban Meyer front as it relates to Texas as of 6:50 this morning.


The last I have heard from an unimpeachable Texas source is what I shared with the board yesterday afternoon. “It is all up to Urban at this point,” is the last text I have received on the matter.


It should be noted that unlike from the Texas point of view, I do not have an unimpeachable source from the Meyer camp.


I need to share that point with the community here. I am likely to be made aware of any decision that is communicated to Texas and will share it here as soon as I get it.


How any news will become official or public is out of any person’s control, except perhaps Meyer himself.


So we wait.

[texas4ever]

11:30 update Burton:

According to a high-ranking University of Texas official, the Longhorns continue to wait for a response from three-time national champion Urban Meyer about the possibility of becoming the next Texas football coach.


Rumors have run rampant, whether it is the potential dollar amount of a contract or who Meyer has met with from Texas, yet the coach has not given a final response to Texas brass as of Friday at 10:30 am.


In the discussions, Meyer has made clear to Texas that money will not be the ultimate deciding factor. Rather, it is primarily about the hard-charging Meyer deciding if he wants to “return to the grind” that made him so successful on the sidelines.


It is also important to note that the courting of Meyer is being handled by Texas athletic director Chris Del Conte and his staff, with the full support and oversight of Texas president Jay Hartzell and Texas board of regents chairman Kevin Eltife. No big money donors are directly in contact with Meyer, instead they are backing the efforts of Del Conte, Hartzell and Eltife.


As for an expected timeline for a response from Meyer, there is some hope it would come not later than Sunday but even that is not a definitive deadline, as the Horns have their sights on Meyer. Meyer will be given the time he needs to make a decision.

[leemajors]

11:30 update Burton:

According to a high-ranking University of Texas official, the Longhorns continue to wait for a response from three-time national champion Urban Meyer about the possibility of becoming the next Texas football coach.


Rumors have run rampant, whether it is the potential dollar amount of a contract or who Meyer has met with from Texas, yet the coach has not given a final response to Texas brass as of Friday at 10:30 am.


In the discussions, Meyer has made clear to Texas that money will not be the ultimate deciding factor. Rather, it is primarily about the hard-charging Meyer deciding if he wants to “return to the grind” that made him so successful on the sidelines.


It is also important to note that the courting of Meyer is being handled by Texas athletic director Chris Del Conte and his staff, with the full support and oversight of Texas president Jay Hartzell and Texas board of regents chairman Kevin Eltife. No big money donors are directly in contact with Meyer, instead they are backing the efforts of Del Conte, Hartzell and Eltife.


As for an expected timeline for a response from Meyer, there is some hope it would come not later than Sunday but even that is not a definitive deadline, as the Horns have their sights on Meyer. Meyer will be given the time he needs to make a decision.

thanks!

[woofwoof]

I would suppose if Herman gets the boot on Sunday, Urban is probably in the fold.

[Juan Grande]

Roach saying Jatavion Sanders will sign early and with us

[Billybass]

Roach saying Jatavion Sanders will sign early and with us

He is a great young man and a stud on the field.

[texas4ever]

I would suppose if Herman gets the boot on Sunday, Urban is probably in the fold.

I would think so, regardless if there is a Kansas game or not. We will probably start to hear something Saturday I bet as things start to leak out one way or the other. Early signing day is pushing the timeline on everything.

[bluebellmaniac]

I would suppose if Herman gets the boot on Sunday, Urban is probably in the fold.

I think there's agreement already. Just waiting for after this game so that Herman is given the ax properly and then Meyer can be introduced after a proper amount of time to mourn. About 12 hrs.

[bluebellmaniac]

Could be as much as 18 hrs.

[Juan Grande]

Roach saying Jatavion Sanders will sign early and with us

https://twitter.com/JeffKolbFOX4/status/1335052203615260672

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/JeffKolbFOX4/status/1335052203615260672

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[Billybass]

This young man could be a GREAT tight end or a GREAT defensive end. It will be interesting to see what his future holds

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That’s not good because he is even more Important with Sterns gone.

[Eastexhorn]

A great one handed catch.

[texas4ever]

Jalen Green is out also. We’ll get to see a lot of young guys out there today.

[bluebellmaniac]

It is too bad this type of urgency in scoring couldn't be conveyed and mustered earlier in the season. Too late now. But this will come in handy in the next gig for many of these coaches.

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[DMX7]

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That's good news. That injury looked horrific. I wish him the best especially since he's a San Antonio guy.

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[GAustex]

Did some say that #6 for Alabama is a Texas dude. If so too bad cause he is really good

[Horns2319]

Did some say that #6 for Alabama is a Texas dude. If so too bad cause he is really good

No he’s from Louisiana

[pgardn]

Their defense was division III level
Ours was division II

This K st team might be worse than UTEP

The really good thing about this game is getting young guys serious PT
Hopefully the next coach sees the possible upside from these guys and maybe recruits can be assured of playing time.

[pgardn]

Has Ewers committed elsewhere yet?

[crawdad]

Ohio St. Committed a couple weeks after decommiting from the good guys

[bluebellmaniac]

Any word on the Monday meeting between CDC and TH?

[GAustex]

Has Sam for sure said he ain’t coming back?

[Mr. Peabody]

Sites are reporting that practice was cancelled today

[texas4ever]

From Bobby Burton:

I texted with a high-ranking university official this morning and am told the wait for Urban Meyer continues.


While Meyer contemplates the decision, the Horns have not given the three-time national championship coach a deadline.


Despite mass speculation otherwise, the Horns have not received either a final no or yes from Meyer to this juncture.


If Meyer were to reject Texas’ advances, Texas would not begin a broad coaching search because of the size of Herman’s buyout.


Instead, the money needed for the buyout would only be agreed upon based upon who Herman’s eventual successor would be.

[texas4ever]

Sites are reporting that practice was cancelled today

Per Anwar, there was no practice today, but they're expected to practice this week unless Kansas cancels.

[Mr. Peabody]

UT Press Release -
“ Texas Football had three student-athletes and two staff members whose COVID-19 tests were negative on Friday, travel with the team to Kansas State for Saturday’s game, before testing positive on Sunday. Per the recommendation of the Texas Athletics medical staff, the team and staff have been sent home for the day on Sunday and all team activities have been paused. They will test again tomorrow and then on Tuesday at which time a determination and plan for potential return to activities will be made.”

[Mr. Peabody]

Kansas game in jeopardy?

[texas4ever]

UT Press Release -
“ Texas Football had three student-athletes and two staff members whose COVID-19 tests were negative on Friday, travel with the team to Kansas State for Saturday’s game, before testing positive on Sunday. Per the recommendation of the Texas Athletics medical staff, the team and staff have been sent home for the day on Sunday and all team activities have been paused. They will test again tomorrow and then on Tuesday at which time a determination and plan for potential return to activities will be made.”

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[texas4ever]

Is the Texas Tech job about to come open? (Inside Texas)

Art Briles

https://insidetexas.com/forums/threads/is-the-texas-tech-job-about-to-come-open.98906/

[Mr. Peabody]

Nahlin reporting that the deal with UM is “on life support” due to Meyer’s concerns over his health.

[texas4ever]

Nahlin reporting that the deal with UM is “on life support” due to Meyer’s concerns over his health.

It's almost like he is trying to let everyone down easily, instead of just saying the deals off.

[texas4ever]

OrangeBloods is saying Urban has not given an answer and there is no bad news to report, but things are starting to get a little more nerve-racking as we wait.

[DesignatedT]

lol

[Mr. Peabody]

Ketch’s update just seemed to reiterate what Nahlin posted. Suchomel commented in the Ketch thread that the chatter he’s heard today about UM taking the job has been negative for the most part.

[Kermit]

So, we suck again?

[Vito Corleone]

So, we suck again?

When did we stop sucking?

[Kermit]

When did we stop sucking?

In my fantasy world where for one second I allowed myself to believe we would not fuck this up.

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[Dennis the Menace]

Haha... Chip Brown.

Nobody knows shieeet. If there’s one thing we’ve learned from CDC and new administration, leaks aren’t a thing. Ship is air tight. Gotta be patient over these next several days/weeks.

But in the meantime, keep pumping up those proposed salary numbers. Total package so sweet that no is not conscionable. Throw the kitchen sink and then some.

[Mr. Peabody]

https://www.hookem.com/story/sports/2020/12/06/source-citing-health-urban-meyer-tells-texas-officials-hes-not-returning-coaching/3854666001/

AAS saying it is a “no”.

[Billybass]

Not sure that is a bad thing anyway. He had a ton of baggage. How about we make a play for the Iowa state coach.

[Vito Corleone]

Well, back to the drawing board.

Still gotta find a coach, time for CDC to earn that salary, I have faith in him, he has been nails with other hires hopefully he will come through again. In the mean time, look for a mass exodist of players from the 2017 class any anyone with any talent is going to dump this shit show.

[elbamba1]

If they don't get Urban I could see them giving Tom Herman another year. $25M is still $25M and a lot of money to throw down the drain if you don't get a coach you know is going to turn the program around.

[benefactor]

One more year of Herman.

Fuck

[bluebellmaniac]

What is the buyout next year after Dec 1st? I believe it is lower after Dec 1st.

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[texas4ever]

One more year of Herman.

Fuck

I don't think that decision has been made yet.

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[pgardn]

If they don't get Urban I could see them giving Tom Herman another year. $25M is still $25M and a lot of money to throw down the drain if you don't get a coach you know is going to turn the program around.

This is the very difficult part.
Aggie thinks they have it made because Jimbo has a skin on the wall and they have had a very good year in a super weak conference besides Bama. (not unexpected in any conference with this virus). Watch what happens there, there will be no natty. Our path in our current conference is much easier. But it will not happen anytime soon. We should have been in the playoffs this * year with our good record with Covid and Senior QB.

But we are not. The expectations of Herman having to win the conference was pretty obvious and now VERY obvious. Look how we lost. Every game we have played could have been easily won with a bit of consistency. The only game we played a full game on Offense and Defense was UTEP. Thats just unacceptable.

If Herman does go, any chance any of the O or D coordinator staying? Any scuttlebutt on how they actually did a good job despite Herman's leadership?

[pgardn]

If the plan was “Go after Urban, and if that doesn’t work, just stick with Herman and assume he’ll be fine with it” then Texas may be the dumbest program in the country.

Or immediately buy into another 4 years of Herman like quality?

Its not that easy. You cant just walk into Austin an expect players to come. Texas is raided of its best by top programs like BlowU, Bama and Ohio st. consistently because they are stable and consistently good. Too many years of mediocrity.

[Kermit]

If the plan was “Go after Urban, and if that doesn’t work, just stick with Herman and assume he’ll be fine with it” then Texas may be the dumbest program in the country.

He’s more than welcome to quit.

[rjv]

This is the very difficult part.
Aggie thinks they have it made because Jimbo has a skin on the wall and they have had a very good year in a super weak conference besides Bama. (not unexpected in any conference with this virus). Watch what happens there, there will be no natty. Our path in our current conference is much easier. But it will not happen anytime soon. We should have been in the playoffs this * year with our good record with Covid and Senior QB.

But we are not. The expectations of Herman having to win the conference was pretty obvious and now VERY obvious. Look how we lost. Every game we have played could have been easily won with a bit of consistency. The only game we played a full game on Offense and Defense was UTEP. Thats just unacceptable.

If Herman does go, any chance any of the O or D coordinator staying? Any scuttlebutt on how they actually did a good job despite Herman's leadership?

i'm not so sure that aggy fans think they have anything made; the perception i get from other fans is that there is progress being made in regards to consistency and shoring up some traditional weak spots (e.g., the defensive line, size, depth and recruiting). most aggy fans i know are well aware of how much more work needs to be done if one ever has any aspirations of getting anywhere near 'bama.

[elbamba1]

This is the very difficult part.
Aggie thinks they have it made because Jimbo has a skin on the wall and they have had a very good year in a super weak conference besides Bama. (not unexpected in any conference with this virus). Watch what happens there, there will be no natty. Our path in our current conference is much easier. But it will not happen anytime soon. We should have been in the playoffs this * year with our good record with Covid and Senior QB.

But we are not. The expectations of Herman having to win the conference was pretty obvious and now VERY obvious. Look how we lost. Every game we have played could have been easily won with a bit of consistency. The only game we played a full game on Offense and Defense was UTEP. Thats just unacceptable.

If Herman does go, any chance any of the O or D coordinator staying? Any scuttlebutt on how they actually did a good job despite Herman's leadership?

The funny thing is that I thought the defense looked pretty good for most of the first half but by the end of the game KState looked like they could do just about anything they wanted. The KState defense sucked so bad it covered up a piss poor second half.

[elbamba1]

He also knows he has them by the balls because they played their hand so openly.

I will never understand why a school like Texas feels like they need to lock coaches up after one impressive bowl win. Tom Herman was not going anywhere after Georgia in 2019. And if he did walk, most coaches would have wanted Texas after the Sugar Bowl because it looked like they were about to be on top again.

They need to let their coaches play into the last season before their contract is up and then determine whether they merit an extension.

[Kermit]

He also knows he has them by the balls because they played their hand so openly.

Like it can get any worse. Recruiting is already through the floor, the team consistently underachieves, and it’s not going to get better even with Urban (although the rebound would be fast as hell). If Tom does anything detrimental, they’ll fire him with cause and then get out of paying him exorbitant buy out.

[Vito Corleone]

Texas is in the same place as USC was last year. They had one of the worst recruiting classes ever last year and USC was forced to keep Helton. This might be the same place Texas is in right now. However we might be in a worse spot because anyone can leave without losing anything. Hell, we could lose the whole team to transfer.

Herman needs to go.

[Mr. Peabody]

The question becomes whether you pay Herman's and the assistants' buy outs to bring in your second tier choices. You're paying $20 million on the buyouts, the new HC salary and the pool for the new assistants. Who is worth that? Cristobal? Franklin? Campbell? There was only one guy worth that and for now, it looks like he's not coming.

[pgardn]

i'm not so sure that aggy fans think they have anything made; the perception i get from other fans is that there is progress being made in regards to consistency and shoring up some traditional weak spots (e.g., the defensive line, size, depth and recruiting). most aggy fans i know are well aware of how much more work needs to be done if one ever has any aspirations of getting anywhere near 'bama.

As I have stated before you are one of the most unusual Aggies I have read. My Aggie friends are always in some sort of denial. Giving Jimbo that big ring... yikes... no pressure. You guys are were we should be. 4 year QB settled in nicely because he has an offensive line. Add to that your defensive line is so much more athletic than ours. We win this conf easily without a loss with your lines. You guys most likely don’t get to your playoff.

[pgardn]

Texas is in the same place as USC was last year. They had one of the worst recruiting classes ever last year and USC was forced to keep Helton. This might be the same place Texas is in right now. However we might be in a worse spot because anyone can leave without losing anything. Hell, we could lose the whole team to transfer.

Herman needs to go.

Is it at all possible to get an interim one year coach and hope for greener pastures or this just ruins recruiting?

Because it looks like there are plenty of Tom Herman’s available for 4 years. I guess I’m trying to say is there such a thing as a holding pattern where we don’t crash and burn? We need to get creative. Someone give props to a guy who could turn it around... Urban has done the right thing by his family and health apparently because he had a chance to get a punch back at Herman while possibly becoming one of the greatest football minds I CFB history.

[Vito Corleone]

As a worse case scenerio, I would fire Herman, keep all the assistants and make Ash the Intrum head coach. If it so be that he is the intrum coach for next season also, then so be it.

The other side is to offer money to some of the NFL guys to see if any of them are interested.

Finally, we roll the dice on another up and coming and hope we hit the jackpot. After enduring Herman's BS, I'd want someone who acts like an adult and who also runs a good open offense. And I would definitely take a hard look at Art Briles.

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It was amazing to me how much better Texas' OL played when Jake Majors was at center. He should have been starting most of the year, IMO. He's lacking a little strength as to be expected, but his lateral quickness for an OL is A+.

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[Horns2319]

As a worse case scenerio, I would fire Herman, keep all the assistants and make Ash the Intrum head coach. If it so be that he is the intrum coach for next season also, then so be it.

The other side is to offer money to some of the NFL guys to see if any of them are interested.

Finally, we roll the dice on another up and coming and hope we hit the jackpot. After enduring Herman's BS, I'd want someone who acts like an adult and who also runs a good open offense. And I would definitely take a hard look at Art Briles.

I feel like Traylor would be a roll of the dice but he has the most CEO-type coach feel of the candidates that I feel like would entertain the job. Have him bring Mattox back with him from UTSA and call it day. Keep OC & DC and the rest of the staff and go from there.

[rjv]

As I have stated before you are one of the most unusual Aggies I have read. My Aggie friends are always in some sort of denial. Giving Jimbo that big ring... yikes... no pressure. You guys are were we should be. 4 year QB settled in nicely because he has an offensive line. Add to that your defensive line is so much more athletic than ours. We win this conf easily without a loss with your lines. You guys most likely don’t get to your playoff.

there is a contingency of aggie fans that can be as delusional as cowboys fans but i assure you there are those who have been burned enough as aggie fans to know that one can never take anything for granted with the aggie football program. and even if a&m somewhow squeaked into the playoffs this year (and i'm not even sure how COVID will impact this), they would draw Bama right off the bat. and while i think a&m would account better for itself in a rematch, they would still lose by at least two or three touchdowns.

[pgardn]

there is a contingency of aggie fans that can be as delusional as cowboys fans but i assure you there are those who have been burned enough as aggie fans to know that one can never take anything for granted with the aggie football program. and even if a&m somewhow squeaked into the playoffs this year (and i'm not even sure how COVID will impact this), they would draw Bama right off the bat. and while i think a&m would account better for itself in a rematch, they would still lose by at least two or three touchdowns.

The above makes you sane.
Why did you go to ATM?
jk They have great animal and plant science research going on there, I know that. Its really a good school with the most passionate fans, even if a number of them are irrational.

[rjv]

The above makes you sane.
Why did you go to ATM?
jk They have great animal and plant science research going on there, I know that. Its really a good school with the most passionate fans, even if a number of them are irrational.

they actually have a great philosophy program too (surprisingly); i majored in philosophy and math.

[rjv]

i think that if UT was willing to take a shot at Urban, then why not go after Steve Sarkisian? I think he'd strongly consider the offer since he likely wants a head coaching job in the near future. he'd be a great fit for the big XII, imo.

[texas4ever]

Kansas game is a go

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[texas4ever]

i think that if UT was willing to take a shot at Urban, then why not go after Steve Sarkisian? I think he'd strongly consider the offer since he likely wants a head coaching job in the near future. he'd be a great fit for the big XII, imo.

At the moment, I think no one knows who Texas is vetting to potentially replace Herman. My gut tells me this Urban Myer thing isn't over just yet.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

I've never seen a school go from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows in this small amount of time. What a dumpster fire!

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

ATH Ja'Tavion Sanders (Denton Ryan) will be signing with Texas next week. Fully locked in!

[Neo.]

I've never seen a school go from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows in this small amount of time. What a dumpster fire!

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lol a 1 year ban in a year they suck horribly anyways, what a significant punishment rofl

[pgardn]

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Good guys doing well.
I like it.

[Billybass]

ATH Ja'Tavion Sanders (Denton Ryan) will be signing with Texas next week. Fully locked in!
Great news ! You guys are going to enjoy watching this guy ! I was a little nervous for a while per playblairs posts, but glad he has not wavered. I can see him being a future captain on the team. He has been the leader of the Denton Ryan team. Just a great young man.

[texas4ever]

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[benefactor]

Good tbh

[Cowhorns01]

Now to focus on who next coach will be...

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

4:55 talks about coaching again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR4hBhEdR5w

[DMX7]

Looking forward to focusing on basketball now. Good game coming up on Sunday.

[texas4ever]

Chris Brown declares for NFL draft.

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

Art Briles is a name being thrown around for the Tech job.

[texas4ever]

OrangeBloods:

Truth be told, most of the key info to pass along right now with regards to the Texas head football coaching situation was in last night's update. Not much occurred in the last 24 hours that has changed the dynamics of the situation.


However, there are a few things to discuss, including the situation surrounding former Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.


In case you missed it, Meyer joined Colin Cowherd's show on Thursday afternoon and was asked about his desire to return to the sideline. What followed was an answer that raised the ears of every follower of Texas football in as much for what was not said, as much as for what was said.


"There's more than mornings (where he wants to return), Colin," Meyer said. "You can't do something as long as I've done it (and not) just feel a little bit empty. I have a great spot on Fox, and I love Reggie, Matt, Brady and Rob Stone. We have a great group. I really have absorbed that and embraced it. But, to say I don't think about it... it's every day. But it'd have to be the perfect, perfect situation. It'd have to be something that I was confident that the health issues I could overcome, and at least prevent. So, I don't know. At this point, I think I'm done, but I learned a long time ago...you know, I left a job once where I really planned on being there, then you get a phone call from a better opportunity. So, you know, I think I'm done, but I would never say I'm never done."


A few thoughts on his comments.


1. Lol. Meyer really should go into politics.


2. Most of this shouldn't surprise anyone that has been paying attention. Meyer mentions that his health concerns are at the center of any decision to return and references the need to have a perfect situation in order for him to return. What represents a perfect situation? Well, as we outlined in last week's War Room, it primarily centers around the ability to surround himself with a number of core support staff members that are currently centerpieces of the Ohio State football program.


In making a decision last week to not return to coaching as the coach at Texas, the two existing sticking point areas were continued reservations about his health (especially from his family) and complications in being able to bring a number of key personnel people with him from Columbus to Austin.


In a way, he pretty much said the bare minimum related to his situation. Yet, it was still a first-person confirmation of the areas that have been discussed for weeks.


3. In talking with high-level university officials this week, very few concrete specifics have emerged in our conversations with regards to specifics related to the Meyer rejection. There could be a number of reasons for that, ranging from Texas officials not wanting to relay harsh rhetoric in his final response to there wasn't much to pass along outside of the bottom line to there being a conspiracy to hide secret plans to delay a true final decision until the New Year, to sources just not wanting to say a damn thing to us.


The bottom line is that from my perspective, no one that I trust has so much as given me a flash of a wink that would suggest that there's some Machiavellian plan in place that ends with Meyer in Austin when the dust settles.


I wish I could tell you otherwise because Meyer's name being mentioned with the job was probably the best thing to happen to Orangebloods business in years, but there are no indications at this point outside of burnt orange confirmation bias, blind hope and a refusal to accept an otherwise harsh reality that points to it actually going down. Still, you better believe everyone will be keeping an eye on Meyer moving forward.


4. In talking with Texas officials this week, I would not be shocked to see them at least return to Meyer in January in the most stealthy way possible in an effort to make sure that nothing has changed, especially if Texas sticks with Tom Herman through the rest of the season (bowl game) as is overwhelmingly expected. Whatever happens, if anything happens, will almost certainly be done in a way that minimizes exposure because none of the parties involved on the Texas side will want to have a second miss see the light of public day, especially when you consider what is being speculated behind the scenes as potentially looming next (see below).


We're just at a point right now where the ONLY move where there appears to be a consensus among those in the decision-making power structure is that Meyer and Meyer alone is worth the financial commitment needed to push a complete reset ($25 million) on the program at this point. While that could eventually change, it's where things stand now.


5. There is grapevine talk that the only "true perfect, perfect situation" out there for Meyer is the Notre Dame job, a place that's dear to him after coaching there from 1996-2000. Speculation has existed for years that current Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly could eventually head to the NFL and that if he were to do so, Meyer would have a significant interest in the job.


Outside of the Meyer conversation, the next thing to keep an eye on with the Texas athletic department is a possible attempt to rebuild the standing of Herman, who has received zero public support from Texas athletic director Chris Del Conte for essentially the last six months, but especially during the season.


Del Conte has always indicated that he would hold off on all public commentary on the football program until the end of the regular season. With the announcement on Thursday that the game against Kansas has been cancelled, the end of the regular season has arrived and there will be expectations for Del Conte to weigh in on the situation with football, especially in light of the very real new set of expectations that Herman will be around for the 2021 season, barring another change in direction.


Given that Del Conte hasn't exactly made a lot of decisions this fall that you'd find in the traditional athletic director's playbook, it's hard to say with certainty what chess moves he'll make in the coming days and weeks, but there seems to be an understanding that Del Conte has to give some sort of public endorsement of Herman if the plan is to bring Herman back.


Does that mean a public endorsement is on the way? It’s one of the things everyone is watching for.


Stay tuned.

[pgardn]

Art Briles is a name being thrown around for the Tech job.

I listened to the urban Meyer interview you put up about leading young men, and then we read this... Colin cowherd is very convincing in his belief that coaches believe they are very important in shaping the lives of young men.

smh... The lack of candor or denial, just stick it in our faces. How do the parents with kids being recruited deal with this.... All these kids are not going to the NFL. I imagine quite a few will stay with the game as coaches shaping the lives of young men. Color me jaded.

[pgardn]

OrangeBloods:

Truth be told, most of the key info to pass along right now with regards to the Texas head football coaching situation was in last night's update. Not much occurred in the last 24 hours that has changed the dynamics of the situation.


However, there are a few things to discuss, including the situation surrounding former Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.


In case you missed it, Meyer joined Colin Cowherd's show on Thursday afternoon and was asked about his desire to return to the sideline. What followed was an answer that raised the ears of every follower of Texas football in as much for what was not said, as much as for what was said.


"There's more than mornings (where he wants to return), Colin," Meyer said. "You can't do something as long as I've done it (and not) just feel a little bit empty. I have a great spot on Fox, and I love Reggie, Matt, Brady and Rob Stone. We have a great group. I really have absorbed that and embraced it. But, to say I don't think about it... it's every day. But it'd have to be the perfect, perfect situation. It'd have to be something that I was confident that the health issues I could overcome, and at least prevent. So, I don't know. At this point, I think I'm done, but I learned a long time ago...you know, I left a job once where I really planned on being there, then you get a phone call from a better opportunity. So, you know, I think I'm done, but I would never say I'm never done."


A few thoughts on his comments.


1. Lol. Meyer really should go into politics.


2. Most of this shouldn't surprise anyone that has been paying attention. Meyer mentions that his health concerns are at the center of any decision to return and references the need to have a perfect situation in order for him to return. What represents a perfect situation? Well, as we outlined in last week's War Room, it primarily centers around the ability to surround himself with a number of core support staff members that are currently centerpieces of the Ohio State football program.


In making a decision last week to not return to coaching as the coach at Texas, the two existing sticking point areas were continued reservations about his health (especially from his family) and complications in being able to bring a number of key personnel people with him from Columbus to Austin.


In a way, he pretty much said the bare minimum related to his situation. Yet, it was still a first-person confirmation of the areas that have been discussed for weeks.


3. In talking with high-level university officials this week, very few concrete specifics have emerged in our conversations with regards to specifics related to the Meyer rejection. There could be a number of reasons for that, ranging from Texas officials not wanting to relay harsh rhetoric in his final response to there wasn't much to pass along outside of the bottom line to there being a conspiracy to hide secret plans to delay a true final decision until the New Year, to sources just not wanting to say a damn thing to us.


The bottom line is that from my perspective, no one that I trust has so much as given me a flash of a wink that would suggest that there's some Machiavellian plan in place that ends with Meyer in Austin when the dust settles.


I wish I could tell you otherwise because Meyer's name being mentioned with the job was probably the best thing to happen to Orangebloods business in years, but there are no indications at this point outside of burnt orange confirmation bias, blind hope and a refusal to accept an otherwise harsh reality that points to it actually going down. Still, you better believe everyone will be keeping an eye on Meyer moving forward.


4. In talking with Texas officials this week, I would not be shocked to see them at least return to Meyer in January in the most stealthy way possible in an effort to make sure that nothing has changed, especially if Texas sticks with Tom Herman through the rest of the season (bowl game) as is overwhelmingly expected. Whatever happens, if anything happens, will almost certainly be done in a way that minimizes exposure because none of the parties involved on the Texas side will want to have a second miss see the light of public day, especially when you consider what is being speculated behind the scenes as potentially looming next (see below).


We're just at a point right now where the ONLY move where there appears to be a consensus among those in the decision-making power structure is that Meyer and Meyer alone is worth the financial commitment needed to push a complete reset ($25 million) on the program at this point. While that could eventually change, it's where things stand now.


5. There is grapevine talk that the only "true perfect, perfect situation" out there for Meyer is the Notre Dame job, a place that's dear to him after coaching there from 1996-2000. Speculation has existed for years that current Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly could eventually head to the NFL and that if he were to do so, Meyer would have a significant interest in the job.


Outside of the Meyer conversation, the next thing to keep an eye on with the Texas athletic department is a possible attempt to rebuild the standing of Herman, who has received zero public support from Texas athletic director Chris Del Conte for essentially the last six months, but especially during the season.


Del Conte has always indicated that he would hold off on all public commentary on the football program until the end of the regular season. With the announcement on Thursday that the game against Kansas has been cancelled, the end of the regular season has arrived and there will be expectations for Del Conte to weigh in on the situation with football, especially in light of the very real new set of expectations that Herman will be around for the 2021 season, barring another change in direction.


Given that Del Conte hasn't exactly made a lot of decisions this fall that you'd find in the traditional athletic director's playbook, it's hard to say with certainty what chess moves he'll make in the coming days and weeks, but there seems to be an understanding that Del Conte has to give some sort of public endorsement of Herman if the plan is to bring Herman back.


Does that mean a public endorsement is on the way? It’s one of the things everyone is watching for.


Stay tuned.

if Notre Dame actually entertains the thought of Meyer If Kelly goes.
this is the school that told Kelly to cool it with the cussing on the sidelines...?

On the other hand, Meyer does think he is a married priest.
Amazing. Oh well, when trust is no longer important, lying must become necessary and repetitively boring. The thrill and fun of lying is gone, so sad...

[Billybass]

Texas4ever, really appreciate all that you do !

[Trill Clinton]

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I'm excited about this kid.

[Billybass]

I'm excited about this kid.
if JaTavion plays defensive end and this guy works out, dline should be pretty good. But, JaTavion may wind up at tight end. He could be a DOMINANT tight end.

[texas4ever]

Schooler coming back

CIokaEKliR7

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

SEC Moving to ABC and ESPN in 2024. The rich get richer.

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[rjv]

SEC Moving to ABC and ESPN in 2024. The rich get richer.

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so what happens to CBS?

[Juan Grande]

DL Dan Carson entered the portal

[texas4ever]

so what happens to CBS?

Maybe they pick up another conference?

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[texas4ever]

Chip Brown-

I'm told the seniors coaches believe will return for another season are: receiver Brenden Schooler, receiver Tarik Black as well as offensive linemen Derek Kerstetter and Denzel Okafor. TE Cade Brewer is undecided.

Sam is more than likely moving on.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

2021 DL Barryn Sorrell (New Orleans, LA) is supposed to visit soon and Texas is looking to take another DL with Turner looking more and more like Aggie.

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https://247sports.com/Player/Barryn-Sorrell-46099427/

[texas4ever]

With Hand all but gone this should be no surprise, IMO.

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[texas4ever]

Texas offers 2022 WR Chris Marshall (Fort Bend Marshall)

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https://247sports.com/player/chris-marshall-46110458/

[texas4ever]

OL Remington Strickland commits to aggie.

[Vito Corleone]

Texas right now is looking like 1984 and 85 recruiting. A dark couple of year as we could barely recruit kids off of the Texas top 100 much less the national top 100.

[texas4ever]

Roach is reporting that CB commit Ishmael Ibraheem was arrested last night. Doesn’t look good at all.

[texas4ever]

Texas right now is looking like 1984 and 85 recruiting. A dark couple of year as we could barely recruit kids off of the Texas top 100 much less the national top 100.

Trying times for sure. When your competing with the Baylor and TCU’s of the world for recruits it’s time for a change.

[bluetrumpet]

Yeah, car jacking and evading police isn’t taken lightly.

[texas4ever]

Texas offers 2021 OL Austin Uke (Dallas Parish Episcopal)

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https://247sports.com/Player/Austin-Uke-46102715/

[texas4ever]

Ta’Quon Graham is headed to the draft.

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[texas4ever]

DL Shemar Turner commits to Aggy.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

Good get for Aggy. Shemar is going to be a really, really good player for them. One day Texas recruiting will be fun again.

[Billybass]

We got to get a coach. And CDC needs to do it without all the fake news media involved. Critical hire for him, but if he can’t get job done then he needs to be replaced also. If there are problems at the bottom, you can always look to the top for the reason. Look at Dallas Cowboys

[Cowhorns01]

Another mediocre season on an average coach next season. I guess they are ok being average at best.

[GAustex]

Mediocre football is a reflection of a mediocre institution. New coach ain’t gonna fix the football team. Meyer knows.
It’s way deeper than that.

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

What in the.....

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[pgardn]

Mediocre football is a reflection of a mediocre institution. New coach ain’t gonna fix the football team. Meyer knows.
It’s way deeper than that.

So what is IT?

The deep part?

[Eastexhorn]

DKR said angry young men win football games. Great players and coaches help.

[Dennis the Menace]

The program went downhill when longhorn network was implemented. Increased entitlement and cultivated the illusion of “we made it” mindset with student athletes.

Either get rid of it or heavily modify it.

Program went from hard work, not flashy, breeding success. Into a corporate, money making scheme, thinking on field results would just carryover overnight.

Lose the revenue driven mindset. Get back to the basics of hard work will create exposure. The success and money will be a bi-product and be plentiful

[texas4ever]

Bobby Burton this AM:

While there was a public statement of support for coach Tom Herman put forth over the weekend by Texas athletic director Chris Del Conte, high-ranking officials at the University continue to consider various coaching options and are resolved to hold a more thorough coaching search following conference championship games that are to be played this weekend, going possibly until the end of bowl season and the NFL regular season, according to two different sources within the university.

“This is not over, not at all,” one university official said of the coaching situation yesterday. A second official told Inside Texas that Del Conte made a mistake in releasing the show of support and that the final statement was “watered down” by other officials.

Inside Texas continues to report that Del Conte will not make the decision of Herman’s future in a silo, nor even have the largest sway in the decision to replace him. Instead, it is a group of three, including university president Jay Hartzell and board of regents chairman Kevin Eltife, along with Del Conte.

Other factors will contribute to any coaching change, including the money available to the university to pursue such a change created by the contract buyout of Herman and several assistants, which total to around $25 million.

While Del Conte has privately bemoaned the amount of money it would take to change coaches and used it as a political factor in any such decision, other universities seem to eschew such problems. Yesterday, Auburn decided to terminate its coach, Gus Malzahn, who is owed a $22 million buyout.

Furthermore, Inside Texas has been told that the money is there for the Longhorns to change coaches. Unlike what has been previously reported, Inside Texas is told that the money is there for any number of candidates vetted, not just for Urban Meyer, who was the initial candidate that galvanized alignment from several donors and the three university officials in charge of the decision.

Inside Texas has been told that the Horns will look at possible college coaches involved in conference championship games and in the NFL, so long as they have head coaching experience in either the pros or colleges.

[texas4ever]

Ossai head to the draft.

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[pgardn]

DKR said angry young men win football games. Great players and coaches help.

He said a lot more than this.
He also said motivated young men can get educated and can be great football players.

[pgardn]

The program went downhill when longhorn network was implemented. Increased entitlement and cultivated the illusion of “we made it” mindset with student athletes.

Either get rid of it or heavily modify it.

Program went from hard work, not flashy, breeding success. Into a corporate, money making scheme, thinking on field results would just carryover overnight.

Lose the revenue driven mindset. Get back to the basics of hard work will create exposure. The success and money will be a bi-product and be plentiful

So the problem has been with Charlie Strong and Tom Herman we did not work hard enough, because they gave the impression they were working very hard, but possibly not on the right stuff to win football games. Herman was criticized for working kids too hard in the summer and spring and fall and got to many kids hurt during practice. He commented you play like you practice as a reason for working hard? It was fundamentals first, one game at a time, but all along they were not working hard enough...

These excuses are all over the place. Herman clearly did get kids to play hard for the majority of his 4 years. Something that Strong and Grandpa Brown did not do.

I will give you our repetition and ability to stay consistent were problems, but Im not sure why. Now its not working hard enough. We also did a very poor job adjusting at half time.

I wonder why we were able to win bowl games and punctuate a win with a physical statement? Why did this happen under Herman? We beat other teams up. I would rather not have the tired old answer (the other team did not want to play...)

This board may be a mirror into why we are bad.
Bad excuses.

[pgardn]

Ossai head to the draft.

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Good for him.
he has a huge upside but is definitely inconsistent.

[DMX7]

If not Urban, then who? I'm not sure I would make a move this season unless you know you're getting an elite elite coach proven at the college level. I'm not sure that will happen this year.

[GAustex]

Everybody first needs to realize they are not special.

[Biggems]

I know we played like shit this year. However, 1 loss was in OT, 4th OT, to be exact. The other losses was by 2 and a fg. 2 of the 3 losses came against higher ranked opponents. 3 losses by a combined 13 pts.

Our OL was pure trash all year, causing stress on the entire team. Poor running games, Sam being forced into too many bad situations, horrible penalties, causing more pressure for defense and ST. Our OL really shit the bed this year.

The coaching staff screwed the pooch so often this season. Poor game plans, bad adjustments, if any at all, and bush league clock management. They failed to put most of our players in the right spots to succeed. They failed to coach up our players and advance their skill level and knowledge. They failed to take advantage of obvious mismatches.

Even with the shitshow that was our coaching staff and OL, we still only lost 3 games, all by one score. I find that quite impressive.

[Neo.]

I know we played like shit this year. However, 1 loss was in OT, 4th OT, to be exact. The other losses was by 2 and a fg. 2 of the 3 losses came against higher ranked opponents. 3 losses by a combined 13 pts.

Our OL was pure trash all year, causing stress on the entire team. Poor running games, Sam being forced into too many bad situations, horrible penalties, causing more pressure for defense and ST. Our OL really shit the bed this year.

The coaching staff screwed the pooch so often this season. Poor game plans, bad adjustments, if any at all, and bush league clock management. They failed to put most of our players in the right spots to succeed. They failed to coach up our players and advance their skill level and knowledge. They failed to take advantage of obvious mismatches.

Even with the shitshow that was our coaching staff and OL, we still only lost 3 games, all by one score. I find that quite impressive.

while its true that the situation overall is not quite as bad as it looks (with three very close losses), the bold part is just so infuriating. simply reduce the bullcrap by the coaches by just 50%, and this team is undefeated and ranked top 4. very frustrating to look at how much potential this team had, that was pissed away by poor coaching, regardless of the lousy OL. better coaching easily could have covered up some of the flaws of the OL. would they beat Bama or Clemson? probably not. but as much as its fun to joke about OU always falling short on the big stage, any horns fan would kill to be in a position where they could at least be in the playoffs. then they dont miss out on recruits like Ewers.

[Cowhorns01]

Why stick with an average coach at best. In every aspect of your life you should want to excel. Coaching is no different. And if coach is average at best you need to make a change. You can muddle in mediocre or go find the solution. Very simple Herman is an avg coach and should not be accepted by the University of Texas.

[pgardn]

Why stick with an average coach at best. In every aspect of your life you should want to excel. Coaching is no different. And if coach is average at best you need to make a change. You can muddle in mediocre or go find the solution. Very simple Herman is an avg coach and should not be accepted by the University of Texas.

he has clearly been an above average recruiter, especially when our teams make the same mistakes over and over again (recruits must see this and they came for 3 years and he had Ewers early) Herman is not an average coach. while being a very good recruiter, he has been awful at fixing mistakes. And apparently his bowl game preparation was very good. Or 3 teams we played had extraordinarily bad preparation and were overrated.

so it really is not as simple as an average coach at all.
For instance, who do you want as H coach that will come to Austin? Because we are in a real bind here.

[pgardn]

We are in a very unstable situation because recruits know and players know Herman is a lame duck. And we have no clear prospects for stability. Ask yourselves why recruits that are talented are sticking with this program. And then if we learn something from this we better keep using it for recruiting because our play is not impressive and has not been for a pretty good while.

[Cowhorns01]

He is an avg coach and was a good recruiter but that is going away. Look at the people decommitting and losing out to other schools. If he has been a good recruiter then he is failing developing them into great players. You either keep doing the lame duck coach or you go find a better option. It may take another chance at a rising coach. You might end up in the same situation or you may land the next Dabo Swinney. Its not for me to say who to get but I know you don't keep the same mistake.

[Eastexhorn]

25 million is why Tom is staying. Might work out a deal with Auburn swap no buy out.

[Vito Corleone]

This is just my opinion, but if/when we fire Herman, if we also fire our RB coach we will lose Bijan to transfer. Something I don't wish to see happen. It might still happen anyways, but I think we will lose a number of starters to transfer as these guys see opportunities in other places. Bijan can step in and start at Ohio State and Bama with two incredibly good olines blocking for him.

[Trill Clinton]

Why was playblair's post about JQJ transferring deleted? Man I was looking forward to seeing him play for UT.

[woofwoof]

Come on, that can't be real...

Nvrm see it on IT

[CosmicCowboy]

Success breeds Success. Look at Alabama...6 freaking 5 stars and 12 four stars...just in this 2021 class...We are currently the 17th ranked recruiting class for 2021, a significant drop from previous years. Texas has had some good draft classes without turning that into a Big12 championship, much less a national championship. Combine that with a lame duck coach and sadly all we have to look forward to is more mediocre seasons and getting beat by Oklahoma every year. I will still watch and root for them, but being barely bowl eligible every year is hardly where this program should be. Freaking A&M is the new king of Texas football.
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[Neo.]

just became official..........they hate that playblair (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34893) breaks news here before it becomes public..........btw samples leaving is starting to hurt texas even more he was recruting jqj to smu while jqj was on texas roster...........he is smu bound............he was the best qb in practice all season he had surpassed both card&thompson...........herman never let him play a down this season...............

:rollin taking credit for reposting what you read on surlyhorns

[GregoryJim]

Hopefully, horns will get LJ Johnson tomorrow. Below average class for us. Herman needs to have plan to get busy in the transfer portal.

Doesn't help coach to not be able to see recruits for like 9 months and no on campus visits. Recruits probably just going off teams records and who sounds good on the phone.

Sad that game v. LSU cancelled. If Horns/Herman had won that game (we are better than they are) it would have changed the narrative a lot.

Herman has to get to conf champ game next year. Key game will be game 2 at Arkansas. If Horns win at Arky, team might go into OU game undefeated. If Horns lose that game then he's toast.

I'll be interested to see how much of offensive malaise is Sam being good but not great quarterback. Both Card & Thompson are more dynamic open field runners. Sam has an ok arm but no one will confuse him with Colt.

I know you all hate the coaches but offense looked a ton better when we had 3 bad ass wrs (dev duv, lil j (why the hell did he go pro early??) and cj) and a great blocking te (beck).

[pgardn]

Why was playblair's post about JQJ transferring deleted? Man I was looking forward to seeing him play for UT.

Probably because he is an Aggie who has always tried to destroy this forum.
Additionally he actively solicits for sexual favors on this site.
Owners of this site are kind to let him stay.

[pgardn]

He is an avg coach and was a good recruiter but that is going away. Look at the people decommitting and losing out to other schools. If he has been a good recruiter then he is failing developing them into great players. You either keep doing the lame duck coach or you go find a better option. It may take another chance at a rising coach. You might end up in the same situation or you may land the next Dabo Swinney. Its not for me to say who to get but I know you don't keep the same mistake.

Strong and Herman were both rising coaches. So give us a rising coach who will become Dabo Swinney so we dont have to go through this again.

And with the football teams we produced and the talent we got... it did not match. Herman was more than a good recruiter. Austin, the place, can only give you so much of an advantage.

[Neo.]

wtf is surlyhorns..........bruh only board playblair (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34893) is on is spurstalk............. playblair (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34893) broke the ewers news before any other site playblair (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34893) has real info

just stop pls :lmao

[leemajors]

edit: didnt see above

[Billybass]

He signed
Wonderful !!! And playblair...that is one lameass dude. Kinda sad really, hates the horns so bad. Pathetic little guy, nothing else to do but troll another teams recruiting board

[bluetrumpet]

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[Vito Corleone]

Lol, I didn't even realize today was early signing day. How pathetic.

[bluetrumpet]

Any word on when Ibraheem will sign? Also, any other surprise commits or transfers?

[Kermit]

i dont hate the horns im a realist not a homer with his head stuck in the sand............

A realist would admit that he steals other reporter’s breaking news and tries to pass it off as his own on a niche website where other posters have seen the information on the same sites the realist is stealing from. A realist would just post it here and not pretend to be some Billy badass insider.

[GregoryJim]

Colt McCoy’s class (2005) was #14 and ave rating = .897. 2021 without anyone else is lil lower w average .89. Colts class lost 1 reg season game in jr and sr season. Beat Aggie resoundingly both years. Heisman finalist. should’ve been in 2 nc games.

Jevan Snead and Perriloux were higher rated prospects. So was garret gilbert.

Better to have top 5 class but look at aggy. What have they done w several top 5 classes (lose minor bowl games)? Mack and herm have had those classes not produce also. LSU has off the chart talent but losing record this year.

We have enough talent to make it to conf champ game in 21. Schedule in 2021 is easiest in long time. Coaches need to use actual spring and fall practice to get better. Coaches need to get recruits to Austin and ask them if they really wanna live in mobilehoma or agroidville for 4 years.

Funny that fans want herm gone. Team winning 63% w him (not good nuf). Agroids at 70% under jimbo and want to build him a shrine next to the klan guy statue.

[Billybass]

i dont hate the horns im a realist not a homer with his head stuck in the sand............
whatever you say bbrrrrrruuuuuuuhhhhhhh

[Kermit]

Colt McCoy’s class (2005) was #14 and ave rating = .897. 2021 without anyone else is lil lower w average .89. Colts class lost 1 reg season game in jr and sr season. Beat Aggie resoundingly both years. Heisman finalist. should’ve been in 2 nc games.

Jevan Snead and Perriloux were higher rated prospects. So was garret gilbert.

Better to have top 5 class but look at aggy. What have they done w several top 5 classes (lose minor bowl games)? Mack and herm have had those classes not produce also. LSU has off the chart talent but losing record this year.

We have enough talent to make it to conf champ game in 21. Schedule in 2021 is easiest in long time. Coaches need to use actual spring and fall practice to get better. Coaches need to get recruits to Austin and ask them if they really wanna live in mobilehoma or agroidville for 4 years.

Funny that fans want herm gone. Team winning 63% w him (not good nuf). Agroids at 70% under jimbo and want to build him a shrine next to the klan guy statue.

Fans want Herman gone because he sucks as a coach and the program is in a downward spiral. How long are you willing to give this nincompoop?

[GregoryJim]

No he’s average as a coach. And all the drunk hateful fans start screaming to fire the coaches after the first snap. All you geniuses last year said we needed to get rid of our coordinators to get better. Those coaches and coord went 10-4 w ou/sugar win with inferior talent. Herman beat ou at uh. Herman almost beat lsu last year w vastly inferior talent. Herm almost beat @usc w tru fresh qb and terrible offense. Tom’s lost games he shouldn’t Too. Herman was off coordinator at osu. Beat bama w bk up qb. Recruiting has been good for 3 yrs under him and bad for one. This team has never quit on Herman. Not once. Mack got killed repeatedly by ou but didn’t get fired cuz he kissed ass. Saying Herman is a bad coach simply isn’t true. He’s had some bad underachieving games and some overachieving good games.Next year, Tom gotta beat arky or I’ll join the fire Tom train. If he’s fired Then you guys will start drinking and screaming to fire the new coaches.

[Billybass]

Colt McCoy’s class (2005) was #14 and ave rating = .897. 2021 without anyone else is lil lower w average .89. Colts class lost 1 reg season game in jr and sr season. Beat Aggie resoundingly both years. Heisman finalist. should’ve been in 2 nc games.

Jevan Snead and Perriloux were higher rated prospects. So was garret gilbert.

Better to have top 5 class but look at aggy. What have they done w several top 5 classes (lose minor bowl games)? Mack and herm have had those classes not produce also. LSU has off the chart talent but losing record this year.

We have enough talent to make it to conf champ game in 21. Schedule in 2021 is easiest in long time. Coaches need to use actual spring and fall practice to get better. Coaches need to get recruits to Austin and ask them if they really wanna live in mobilehoma or agroidville for 4 years.

Funny that fans want herm gone. Team winning 63% w him (not good nuf). Agroids at 70% under jimbo and want to build him a shrine next to the klan guy statue.
Do you enjoy losing to Oklahoma, like we do every year that he has been coach (beat them one time, but got beat same year for conference championship)? Do you enjoy watching state top recruits go somewhere else ?


He is not as good a coach as Oklahoma has. He is not as good a coach as Iowa State has.

so that ranks him as 3rd best coach in the conference (or worse). I don’t understand how you can be ok with that.

[Billybass]

Btw...Patterson has owned his ass too, so 3rd best coach in conference may be a little generous

[Kermit]

No he’s average as a coach. And all the drunk hateful fans start screaming to fire the coaches after the first snap. All you geniuses last year said we needed to get rid of our coordinators to get better. Those coaches and coord went 10-4 w ou/sugar win with inferior talent. Herman beat ou at uh. Herman almost beat lsu last year w vastly inferior talent. Herm almost beat @usc w tru fresh qb and terrible offense. Tom’s lost games he shouldn’t Too. Herman was off coordinator at osu. Beat bama w bk up qb. Recruiting has been good for 3 yrs under him and bad for one. This team has never quit on Herman. Not once. Mack got killed repeatedly by ou but didn’t get fired cuz he kissed ass. Saying Herman is a bad coach simply isn’t true. He’s had some bad underachieving games and some overachieving good games.Next year, Tom gotta beat arky or I’ll join the fire Tom train. If he’s fired Then you guys will start drinking and screaming to fire the new coaches.

You sure you’re not aggy? This is one of the more “we just ran out of time” posts I’ve seen here.

[GregoryJim]

When I went to the university of Texas they taught me to think. They taught me not to act like an aggy.

The question isn’t simply whether to fire the coach. The question is which path is better - a) replace Herman w another mediocre coach or b) keep him 1 last yr since this is a crazy crazy year where the coaches had no spring practice and virtually no fall practice ( w nu off/def coord) & no in person recruiting since March.

If you tell me Matt Rhule is gonna step in for Herman then I’m all in.

Losing to ou sucks. Some of Best days of my life were seeing in person Johnny walker over middle and Kerry/Keith case in corner for the win. I left first stoops blowout #1 v Mack (in the driving rain) at half. Was there for 45-35 and that is 2nd best tx gm eva!

Mack lost repeatedly to ou. Badly. But they kept him. Cuz good programs don’t fire coaches like bad programs.

[Vito Corleone]

Herman isn't a bad X's and O's guy, he is immature and full of dumb-fuckery. He needs to grow up and lose his tough guy image. When he does those things he will excel as a coach. Right now he is his own worse enemy. He was not ready for the Texas job and it showed from day one. It's too late now, he just needs to step away and find a lower job to grow up in.

[Billybass]

check it out

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=mack+brown+record+against+ou&fr=iphone&.tsrc=apple&pcarrier=AT&T&pmcc=310&pmnc=410 (https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=mack+brown+record+against+ou&fr=iphone&.tsrc=apple&pcarrier=AT&T&pmcc=310&pmnc=410)

[Kermit]

When I went to the university of Texas they taught me to think. They taught me not to act like an aggy.

The question isn’t simply whether to fire the coach. The question is which path is better - a) replace Herman w another mediocre coach or b) keep him 1 last yr since this is a crazy crazy year where the coaches had no spring practice and virtually no fall practice ( w nu off/def coord) & no in person recruiting since March.

If you tell me Matt Rhule is gonna step in for Herman then I’m all in.

Losing to ou sucks. Some of Best days of my life were seeing in person Johnny walker over middle and Kerry/Keith case in corner for the win. I left first stoops blowout #1 v Mack (in the driving rain) at half. Was there for 45-35 and that is 2nd best tx gm eva!

Mack lost repeatedly to ou. Badly. But they kept him. Cuz good programs don’t fire coaches like bad programs.

They kept him because he recruited his ass off and won 10 games every year. If Texas wants to be a good program, they need to stop hiring bad coaches, and Tom Herman is a bad coach.

[Dennis the Menace]

I would prefer Mark Mangino over Herman at this point.

[Juan Grande]

I would prefer Mark Mangino over Herman at this point.

He would be in covid protocol 24/7
Would have to coach from a bubble
And the food bill - oy

[Neo.]

Herman isn't a bad X's and O's guy, he is immature and full of dumb-fuckery. He needs to grow up and lose his tough guy image. When he does those things he will excel as a coach. Right now he is his own worse enemy. He was not ready for the Texas job and it showed from day one. It's too late now, he just needs to step away and find a lower job to grow up in.

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[Dennis the Menace]

He would be in covid protocol 24/7
Would have to coach from a bubble
And the food bill - oy

Would be a lot more entertaining than the current product no? Would give the people a reason to watch the games again

[Vito Corleone]

Mangino would eat Covid for breakfast.

[Billybass]

Mangino would eat Covid for breakfast.
and everything else in sight

[pgardn]

He would die on the field and require we tear a giant wall out in the stadium to remove his corpse.

[Juan Grande]

He would die on the field and require we tear a giant wall out in the stadium to remove his corpse.

The jet pack guy isnt doing anything and probably still on the payroll

[Juan Grande]

The stiff arm
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsSW/status/1339654715232153602

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

2021 Offense IT:

Markets don’t always tell you the real value of someone. Somewhere Danny Tartabull is waiting in line to cash a check to prove that point. But markets do work to create the perceived value from people who get paid a lot of money to be right more often than they’re wrong.


The recruiting market, the one comprised of real coaches, not us recruiting dorks, isn’t very impressed with the 2021Texas offensive haul. It should be noted the dorks aren’t overly impressed either.


The beauty of recruiting and evaluation is the difference between the macrocosm, large numbers of recruits aggregated by rating, and the microcosm, that pesky individual who doesn’t always conform to the limitations of being a three-star.


We don’t like using outliers here, but Colt McCoy is useful for understanding the microcosm. It turns out he was actually a five-star recruit despite being a 6-foot-1, 170-pound, small school quarterback with no elite physical traits, other than perhaps accuracy. That was a great evaluation.


We’re not certain who among this group will overshoot their expectations, but these were some strong evaluations (stemming from necessity but that’s a different story).


QB Charles Wright, Austin High (Austin, TX) - Composite .8572 - early enrollee


Recruitment: It was a sensational cycle for quarterbacks in 2021 with Wright being called a sleeper early on by a Big 12 OC. Fittingly, he committed to Matt Campbell and Iowa State until Texas lost Jalen Milroe to Alabama. Wright was the obvious ‘next man up’ given the circumstances and he wasted no time flipping. With UT having a couple portal candidates at the position, Wright made even more sense for Texas from a long term stability standpoint. A really good get, all things considered.


Evaluation: Competitive kid who remained with his poor team rather than looking to transfer. He’s used to playing under constant pressure, moving his feet and resetting, and buying time. He has a good, but not great arm. He demonstrates good ball placement over the middle and to the outside. Solid athlete. No glaring holes in his game with surprise potential due to his mental makeup and improvisational ability.


Lead time: Should be ready to provide depth after one year. Could play in a pinch as a freshman.


Expectations: The quarterback position rarely plays out how it should on paper, in part because there are a lot of rankings misses due to hard to read mental attributes, and also because of constant transferring. I don‘t know what to expect with Wright, but I’m confident he can win football games at Texas like he would have at Iowa State.


RB Jonathon Brooks, Hallettsville (Hallettsville, TX) - .8850


Recruitment: Texas was his first offer and his recruitment was pretty much over before it started. Despite his utter domination of lesser competition, his stock never took off.


Evaluation: When I first watched him I was confident he’d blow up and become a national recruit, but it didn’t materialize due to lack of long-speed. More important than long speed are nuanced traits and those are evident, namely feel, lateral agility, and vision. He’s playing against a bunch of undersized FFA kids which allows him to run upright, but his new defensive teammates will fix that for him in his first few practices. Other than lack of home run speed there’s a lot to like.


Lead time: For the time being, the depth chart is thin and it’s conceivable he’ll be needed as a freshman. Keaontay Ingram’s future is uncertain and the staff is still chasing Cy-Fair’s LJ Johnson. Brooks’ biggest issue will be the adjustment to competition. Those running lanes are going to close much sooner. It won’t be a long adjustment period, though, because he is pretty natural.


Expectations: Volume back if needed but more likely a steady platoon back who gets a little more than what’s blocked for thanks to that vision and lateral quickness.


WR Jaden Alexis, Monarch (Coconut Creek, FL) - .8925 - early enrollee


Recruitment: The son of NFL veteran running back, Rich Alexis, held a lot of big offers but most schools weren’t pressing when UT moved in and defeated Miami.


Evaluation: Florida speed with verified 4.5 40 as a junior. Could easily be classified as an athlete. Could play APB/slot/ZWR or even DB if he wanted. Route running is simple — bubbles and verts. Will need to work on that. Not great length but will compete for the ball in the air. Get him in space with defenders in conflict. Very intelligent kid.


Lead time: His intelligence and speed leads me to believe it won’t take him too long to be ready, but I wouldn’t expect much production from him early on. I’d get him snaps in the Jordan Whittington role we saw glimpses of late in the season. I’d also test him out on kick and punt return.


Expectations: He should be able to start at slot or field receiver after the depth chart thins a little. If Texas experiences attrition he’ll be called to duty earlier.


WR Casey Cain, Warren Easton (New Orleans, LA) - .8519


Recruitment: Similar to Brooks, he has a pedestrian offer list and was an easy pull for the Texas staff. Mike Yurcich was his main advocate and it’s not hard seeing Cain being similar to Chris Lacy who played for Yurcich at Oklahoma State. Even better, perhaps he’s Marcell Ateman.


Evaluation: He’s a very long 6-foot-2, with quick feet at the LOS to help beat press. He’s fluid and runs well, but doesn’t have great burst. Short area quickness does appear to be good. Cain possesses a huge catch radius relative to height and strong hands and ball skills.


Lead time: If Brennan Eagles departs early it’s possible Cain works his way into the rotation as a true freshman, but more likely he’ll redshirt.


Expectations: If his fluidity and quickness lends itself to good route running, he’ll be able to create the necessary separation to become a quality boundary receiver. At minimum he should become a quality target receiver because of his hands and 50/50 ability.


TE Juan Davis, Everman (Everman, TX) - .8742


Recruitment: Yet another recruitment Texas didn’t have to fight all that hard for, in part because he was high atop the big board very early in the process. He was a Derek Warehime favorite and UT’s only early competition was SMU. Texas A&M did offer later in the process, which is a good sign of Davis’ ability.


Evaluation: Davis doesn’t care to watch football, he wants to play it. These kids are often ballers you can line up anywhere. Relative to that point, Davis has played quarterback for Everman. He’s fluid but not explosive for a skill player. He does have stellar hands. If he’s willing to do the dirty work, and I believe he is, he could become a quality move-piece as tight end or h-back. However, I would not rule out a look at outside linebacker. There might be some ability to get after the passer here.


Lead time: He’ll certainly be able to redshirt with Jared Wiley, Brayden Liebrock, and potentially Malcolm Epps ahead of him.


Expectations: With minimal tape, plus him not playing his college position much of the time, it’s hard to know where his floor and ceiling are. He does have the athletic and physical specs to find a long-term home somewhere.


TE Gunnar Helm, Cherry Creek (Englewood, CO) - .8674 - early enrollee


Recruitment: Colorado (Colorado?) was loaded at tight end this year. Helm is actually ranked 4th at his position in the land of Bo Scaife but colleges valued Helm more than the networks. He picked up a number of quality national offers. That written, when it was time to pick a school, UT was the one pressing the hardest.


Evaluation: He’s not the bouncy basketball athlete you tend to find at the position but he has the ability to become a legitimate receiving weapon down the seams. He has a good frame for a dual threat TE with enough heft to block but still lean enough to keep his movement skills. He’s 6-5, 230 pounds, and can do a back flip so there are some intriguing raw materials to work with.


Lead time: He’s facing the same depth chart as Juan Davis. One of Helm or Davis, probably Helm, should emerge as the third TE next season if Epps departs.


Expectations: At a minimum he should develop into a starter quality tight end as the depth chart thins in front of him but he may have Charlie Kolar upside.


OL Hayden Conner, Taylor (Katy, TX) - .8871 - early enrollee


Recruitment: Conner was a known in recruiting circles as a freshman and not just because he was big for his age. He always played with older kids, sometimes even at tight end because of his athleticism. Offers were numerous by the time he was a sophomore. Early on, Nebraska and Wisconsin were real options but his recruitment funneled towards a UT/A&M battle, with UT winning thanks to his relationship with Herb Hand, former commit Jalen Milroe selecting Texas, and, perhaps most importantly, academics.


Evaluation: Good upside as a guard with a mauler’s build and just enough athleticism to make you think tackle could work. I’ve seen him run routes as a tight end in 7-on-7 and he’s not your typical interior offensive line athlete. He’s ran a 4.77 shuttle.


Lead time: Offensive lineman always need time to adjust and develop, but Conner will have the mental side down quickly. Despite his large frame, he can lean up a little and carry good, functional weight.


Expectations: He could theoretically start in his second or third year on campus with guard most likely. After a year of getting comfortable however, he could be a tackle. In 10 years it’s just as easy to picture him in the NFL as it is working at NASA.


OL Max Merril, Strake Jesuit (Houston, TX) - .8506


Recruitment: Stop me if you’ve read this before, but competition for Texas wasn’t fierce in this recruitment. That written, like the others previously mentioned, when you roll the tape you see the makings of a good evaluation. After quite a few o-line misses, Texas called Merril up and he didn’t take long to commit.


Evaluation: I’m not saying he’s Connor Williams, Sam Cosmi, or Andrej Karic, but there are shades of their overall foot and reactive quickness in Merril’s game. He sticks to his blocks well and keeps his feet moving. Good quickness for outsize zone or on the move in general. His high school line coach, Jordan Hebert, thinks Merril has the makings of a college left tackle and with his feet and coordination I can see it too. Hebert also states Merril is very coachable.


Lead time: He’s a grow’em offensive lineman so he’ll require some time to physically mature but typically these guys take to weights and nutrition rather quickly and are ready faster than “college sized” players who need to reshape. He’ll be ready by the time the depth chart thins.


Expectations: It‘s always a crap shoot with offensive linemen. The football character matters more here than anywhere else but it wouldn’t surprise me if he became a 25-game starter. I like the baseline materials. Higher floor than you’d think.

[texas4ever]

2021 Defense IT:

We discussed the offense yesterday. Or rather, I drew a detailed portrait of each individual commitment that was met with lachrymose resignation.


The picture is much rosier on defense where we see genuine upside at numerous positions. You can win with these guys.


DT Byron Murphy II, DeSoto (DeSoto, TX)
Recruitment: Murphy was on the Texas radar after his sophomore year but length concerns stopped him from truly blowing up. Baylor made a great early ID and earned the commitment until Texas came on late. This has the potential to be a much bigger flip than the rankings would have you believe.


Evaluation: He moves like a giant running back which is not something I say often about defensive tackles. Length is still a bit of an issue but he gets into offensive lineman quickly and powerfully enough they‘ll struggle to keep him at bay. Owns the low-man advantage at the point of attack. He’ll be effective in backside pursuit and sniffing out screens and draws. He’s a nose tackle in a three-man front, and if Bravvion Roy could play it capably so too can Murphy, however his best fit is in a four-man front where his power and agility will have him winning 1v1.


Lead time: He’s already physically mature and could play as a true freshman. However, UT is deep on the defensive line so he’ll likely have to wait his turn.


Expectations: He’s going to be a handful in his limited early snaps before ramping up to an expanded role over time. He’s going to be a productive Longhorn.


DL Jordon Thomas, Memorial (Port Arthur, TX)
Recruitment: Texas was Thomas’ first offer. After brief flirtations with A&M and LSU, Texas held the lead for a while and won out going away.


Evaluation: First, it was great to see him put together a good year after missing his junior season. What initially made him a Texas take is still there and then some. He profiles to the interior d-line where he can take a more direct path to the backfield. Thomas is a frenetic, high-motor brute. Not a fluid athlete, necessarily, but pretty quick and destructive with good closing speed in the back field. Could play anywhere from 4i on in.


Lead time: If he was a true defensive end, playing time would be available as a freshman but I see him as a defensive tackle, and that’s UT‘s deepest position. He has ‘first off the bus’ ability right off the bat.


Expectations: Mid-to-late round NFL draft pick. He has some grown man, 'I’m too old for this ****' to his game.


DL Barryn Sorrell, Holy Cross (New Orleans, LA)
Recruitment: Committed and signed to Texas on National Signing Day after a brief pursuit.


Evaluation: He’s not the raw athlete that Malcolm Roach was, but he’s similarly under-appreciated because he’s rated at the wrong position. Sorrell has legitimate upside as a 3-tech, though he lacks the requisite movement skills and explosiveness for defensive end. Who cares, get him in the right position and cut him loose. He’s good off the ball in a straight line. Naturally powerful. Can match guard strength then get them quickness.


Lead time: While I say his best position is 3-tech, he may go the Moro Ojomo route early in his career and play strong-side defensive end. That could have him in the lineup a little quicker. A redshirt is in order either way, mainly because of depth.


Expectations: Sorrell looks to have starter upside but I don’t know anything about him as a person. Is he Mal Roach or Mike Williams?


DE Ja'Tavion Sanders, Ryan (Denton, TX)
Recruitment: He committed to Texas, the wire to wire leader, two summers ago. It was a simpler time.


Evaluation: I’ve had him as a defensive end since I first saw his sophomore year and proclaimed him a future five-star. Howeva, I can easily see him as a very good tight end and I think the case can be made for that being his best position. If you disagree, go watch the Arlington Martin game. As awesome of a prospect as Sanders is, he’s not the easiest to project because of his uncommon work rate for a big man. I wonder if he’s a five-star when it comes to getting after the passer. I tend to think not, but he’s also running damn near as much as a central midfielder in soccer. His greatest strength is probably his feet and fluidity at his size, rather than raw explosion.


Lead time: He’ll play well as a true freshman.


Expectations: UT needs defensive ends in a major way so that should be the plan for Sanders, but he could be an NFL tight end too. I think he sticks on defense and becomes a 2nd-3rd round draft pick.


LB Morice Blackwell, Martin (Arlington, TX)
Recruitment: Blackwell was thought by all to be a big Baylor lean but UT moved in immediately after missing on South Oak Cliff’s Jaydon Williams. Blackwell committed to Texas on Mother’s Day and dedicated his decision to all your mamas. Okay, that’s not true, but watch the outgoing young man practice and I could see him saying that to his teammates.


Evaluation: About 6-foot-1 with roughly the body fat of a triathlete, Blackwell might be a bit narrow of build and a hard-gainer but the weight will come. He moves so well I’ve wondered if he could moonlight at SPUR early in his career (if that position still exists). While he’s known for being athletic, a rival coach mentions how Blackwell will mix it up between the tackles as well. Blackwell has an infectious passion for the game. He’ll need to keep his athleticism while adding weight, but lean guys typically do.


Lead time: He could become a quality special teamer early on. He certainly was a difference maker for Martin whether on coverage, return, or block teams. While he needs to gain weight, we’re only talking 25-30 pounds or so for the modern game.


Expectations: I think he’ll become a quality starter and perhaps much more. Guys with his versatility pan out. Ideally this class shakes out with Blackwell at Will and Cooks at Mike.


LB Terrence Cooks, Shadow Creek (Pearland, TX)
Recruitment: Texas led early on thanks to a combination of academics and Cooks’ relationship with new linebackers coach Coleman Hutzler. It was a mostly anti-climactic courtship.


Evaluation: Physically he’s the ideal modern day starter kit at 6-foot-2, 215 pounds. He’ll play around 230 in order to keep the movement skills that garnered him attention in the first place. Should be an excellent blitzer both up the gut and off the edge. Athleticism for Will but he may become an excellent Mike in time. Plus coverage skills for a linebacker that are bolstered by length. Instincts and ability to understand what the offense is doing are is still a question. He’ll require good teaching. Smart kid. There’s some Malik Jefferson to him.


Lead time: His frame and strength will explode upon arrival. His overall readiness will be determined by his grasp of the demanding mental aspects of the position.


Expectations: He has NFL physical specs but linebacker is such an instinctive/mental position. It’s one thing to run quickly, another thing to play quickly. With good coaching I expect him to become All Conference player and NFL draft selection.


LB Derrick Harris Jr., New Caney (New Caney, TX)


Recruitment: He was always going to Texas if the Horns offered. They wasted little time and Harris was a done deal.


Evaluation: Best fit is as an outside linebacker/edge player. Excellent frame potential. He’s a long limbed 6-foot-2.5 who will carry 250 pounds comfortably. If they wanted to try and turn him into a hand-in-the-ground defensive end, that’s a possibility as well. Strong in the lower body with long arms to play the run. Good running the arc. Fluid for OLB, but not enough for ILB. Could handle zone drop duties adequately. Great mental evaluation. Coachable.


Lead time: He missed most of his senior year due to an ACL tear. He’ll work hard to get back on schedule. Texas will need to look at all options to replace Joseph Ossai but it will be too early for Harris.


Expectations: I think he’ll become a quality starter. Love the length, lower body strength, and his mindset. His frame potential makes him hard to project clearly, but in a good way.


CB Ishmael Ibraheem, Kimball (Dallas, TX) - Not signing on Wednesday. He may sign in February pending the status of his legal case.


CB Jamier Johnson, John Muir (Pasadena, CA)
Recruitment: He looked destined for Ohio State and then Oregon but each school ran into numbers issues. Texas defeated Arizona State after Johnson committed sight unseen during Covid 2020.


Evaluation: Here’s a good chance to come clean on my Verone McKinley miss from way back when. While I was confident the former Plano Prestonwood player wouldn’t star at corner I missed that he could become a quality safety. I’m not ruling out corner for Johnson, but I bet he could have a McKinley-like career in center field. There, he’d offer corner-ish coverage ability while not sacrificing much physicality.


Lead time: He’ll redshirt. He’s lean but has good shoulder width to muscle up. It’ll just take a little time.


Expectations: It probably doesn’t portend great things if he’s needed at corner, but perhaps he could be Jalen Green there. I think his ceiling raises if he’s moved to safety. They’ll start him at corner. Where it goes from there I’m unsure.


DB JD Coffey III, Kennedale (Kennedale, TX)


Recruitment: Coffey was a virtual lock to UT early on but the previous staff cooled on him. The new defensive staff didn’t initially go full bore either, but after surveying realistic options they made the correct call and pushed. UT defeated quality schools in Oregon and Washington for his signature.


Evaluation: He’s in the same phylum as Jerrin Thompson and Xavion Alford, two true freshman who are already impressing within the program. He’s pound for pound one of the hardest hitters you’ll find. While that’s often an overrated trait, it does indicate a measure of explosiveness that doesn’t come across in the testing setting. Good range and instincts when playing deep but the ability to run the alley as well. Versatile. He won’t wow with NFL measurables but he’s a football player plain and simple. I was not surprised to see Washington push as he fits the type of player they’ve had success developing.


Lead time: Redshirt him while he physically matures or play him if he helps special teams.


Expectations: Same for Thompson and Alford. He’ll be a good starter at some point but he can overshoot his ranking if the traits that are hard to measure, football character and IQ, show up in a major way.


P Isaac Pearson, ProKick Australia
Recruitment: Texas went back to the same ProKick Australia pipeline that gifted the school Punter #1 and Punter #2.


Evaluation: Reminds me of Aussie punting great Darren Bennett in that Pearson is also right footed.


We’ll be addressing remaining needs tomorrow.


Lead time: He’ll need to climatize to American football. Hopefully his growth occurs in practice and not on the field in important situations. I still remember Michael Dickson’s first few punts in practice. One would have enough leg to arc over Ayers Rock, the next would boomerang towards I-35.


Expectations: He’s going to punt.

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[Vito Corleone]

Cannot say enough how happy I am for Shane Buschele and Kellen Mond. I grew up with Kellen's dad here in San Antonio and he is straight up one of the nicest men I have known. Kellen is a good young man and deserves this. Another of my old high school friends lives in Arlington and goes to church with the Buschele family, they are good friends and he has had nothing but great things to say about Shane.

Shane is a prime example of what a good attitude can get you in life. He could have put his head down and sulked about losing his starting job to Sam, but he didn't he kept working and he ended up not only making a difference here at Texas but built on that in SMU. I say congrats to him.

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Friday morning recruiting notes to take you into the weekend


ByMIKE ROACH


—There was some thought Ishmael Ibraheem might sign today, but that looks like it won't happen. Those around the four-star cornerback were planning for a last-minute ceremony, but it appears Texas wants him to hold off until February. The main reason is to resolve the pending court case against him. Ibraheem has a mid-January court date and it's expected that he's let off with a light punishment considering the charge is a misdemeanor and he's a first-time offender. If everything checks out, Ibraheem should be set to sign in February and join the class. There has been constant communication between the Texas staff and the Ibraheem camp on this and I expect it to be resolved. A source at Texas said they felt good about where things are right now.


—If Texas can add some punch to this class moving forward it will have to be with a guy like LJ Johnson. The four-star running back from Cy-Fair is one of the biggest targets on the board for Texas, but the pursuit is getting tougher. I spoke to a source near Johnson who acknowledged Texas still seemed to have a slight edge, but the Aggies would be tough to hold off. A&M assembled a strong offensive line group in this class and added friends of Johnson like Tunmise Adeleye and Bryce Foster. The Longhorns still have a few things working in their favor including a good relationship with Stan Drayton and Brandon Harris and he has an interest in Austin as a city and Texas as an academic school. The Aggies hold a commitment from Miami (Fla.) Central RB Amari Daniels already but are looking to add more. The next month will be a bloody battle between a Texas program hoping to get a big win and an A&M program with all of the in-state momentum right now.


—Keithron Lee appears to be headed to February as well. I mentioned last week that there was some optimism Texas could reel him in this week and get him signed, but it appears they will have to head into January looking to close the deal. I checked with someone near Lee recently who was still bullish on the Texas chances to close the deal and land the highly-productive Bryan Rudder receiver. We will do a full reset of the board on Monday in The Stampede.

[Vito Corleone]

Until the coaching issues are resolved recruiting to me is a distant thought. At this point I just want some closure on the Tom Herman situation, I don't even care how it happens or who it is. I'd be happy with firing Tom and turning the team over to Chris Ash as long as he keeps the vast majority of the assistants in place, I still think we have a very effective set of assistants we just need real leadership. Oh, and I somehow want to steal Larry Johnson away from Ohio state, and Mike Munchek away from the NFL.

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OU Big 12 champs again....that shit is getting old

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☝ Will not change until Herman is out.

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Ja’Quinden Jackson transfers to Utah.

[pgardn]

☝ Will not change until Herman is out.

we could also hire another Charlie strong for three or four years.
so who do you have in mind as a replacement?

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OU Big 12 champs again....that shit is getting old

We have zero in the last 10 seasons and have only played for it once in that period. Sad.

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we could also hire another Charlie strong for three or four years.
so who do you have in mind as a replacement?

Or you could hire the next Mack Brown, Lincoln, Bob stoops. I could go on. Just know he is not a quality coach. Not for me to find their HC.

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