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ace3g

08-05-2022, 09:34 PM

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slick'81

08-05-2022, 09:57 PM

Dudes going to be a walking picaso soon

rascal

08-08-2022, 09:25 AM

Stupid all these tats.

KobesAchilles

08-08-2022, 09:29 AM

If he has half the talent (and tats) of Cherokee Parks then we are set at the 4

rascal

08-08-2022, 09:44 AM

Looks like he is shooting with two hands, slow release with a lot of movement, low gather - lots of things that aren't "textbook".

That said, if it goes in during games, who cares.

Need to see how it looks in game action.

Ignazzz

08-16-2022, 07:02 AM

No for Polish National Team in EUROBASKET 2022.
Jeremy stays home.

exstatic

08-16-2022, 10:28 AM

No for Polish National Team in EUROBASKET 2022.
Jeremy stays home.

The reality is that he would be helping them to like 9th place.

Ignazzz

08-16-2022, 10:40 AM

Agreed. There is no sense to ruin rhytm of preparation for full pro 82 Games season only for QF game.
Good decision imo even as National Team fan. No regret

rjv

08-16-2022, 11:40 AM

Stupid all these tats.

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ace3g

08-18-2022, 06:57 PM

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1560380989007863808

Mr. Body

08-18-2022, 07:27 PM

Good thing he's wearing #10. That number has never had issues with mental health.

GAustex

08-18-2022, 08:13 PM

Nice
Our lotto pick is talking about dealing with his mental health issues.

slick'81

08-18-2022, 09:02 PM

Nice
Our lotto pick is talking about dealing with his mental health issues.

lonnie was the poster child,tbh

daslicer

08-18-2022, 09:17 PM

Good thing he's wearing #10. That number has never had issues with mental health.

On top of that the last guy to wear that number also had dyed hair.

exstatic

08-18-2022, 09:35 PM

On top of that the last guy to wear that number also had dyed hair.

DeMar never dyed his hair…

daslicer

08-18-2022, 09:42 PM

DeMar never dyed his hair…

I forgot that Demar also wore number 10 and was the last Spurs to wear it which shows how forgettable he was for me. I thought Rodman was the last Spurs to wear 10 but you are right it was Demar.

Chomag

08-19-2022, 05:30 PM

Oh boy , well hopefully he won't be another headcase and he can get past his mental issues. Otherwise the kid is going to live in Pop's doghouse.

slick'81

08-19-2022, 08:26 PM

Oh boy , well hopefully he won't be another headcase and he can get past his mental issues. Otherwise the kid is going to live in Pop's doghouse.

dude doesn't seem like a headcase. Im sure hell be fine

R. DeMurre

08-20-2022, 02:29 PM

KingKev

08-20-2022, 02:44 PM

Seems like a smart, worldly kid to me who understands that dealing with issues is something everyone has to do. I don't see a head case at all. He's talking about how important communication is for him, which is probably the opposite of what a guy who's bad at dealing with Life's issues would say.

Yeah just seems like he's pretty mature and relatable and open about it. Nothing wrong with that.

Like there is nothing wrong with having a few hot heads who may have had different upbringings. There are synergies to be had in diversity when building a team.

tonight...you

08-20-2022, 06:26 PM

Yeah just seems like he's pretty mature and relatable and open about it. Nothing wrong with that.

Like there is nothing wrong with having a few hot heads who may have had different upbringings. There are synergies to be had in diversity when building a team.
So true and so poignant.
You get it. I like that.

Thank you.

Dancelot

08-21-2022, 05:40 PM

Tattoos…not “tats”.

exstatic

08-21-2022, 06:11 PM

Tattoos…not “tats”.

Unless they’re on the calf, then absolutely calf tats. Just ask koriwhat.

Dancelot

08-21-2022, 08:15 PM

Unless they’re on the calf, then absolutely calf tats. Just ask koriwhat.
:bobo

illusioNtEk

08-23-2022, 12:19 AM

Nice
Our lotto pick is talking about dealing with his mental health issues.

great whats next? 20 kids?

ace3g

08-25-2022, 05:00 PM

https://twitter.com/Coach_AB3/status/1562872172929957890

https://twitter.com/BUDREW/status/1562868835002490880

D-Robinson 50 fan

08-27-2022, 02:24 PM

Very excited about this season and seeing how our young players (especially Sochan and Wesley) play.

ace3g

08-29-2022, 06:21 PM

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1564291784813039622

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08-29-2022, 11:34 PM

https://twitter.com/Coach_AB3/status/1562872172929957890

https://twitter.com/BUDREW/status/1562868835002490880

Not a fan of Scott Drew or Baylor for that matter. Fuck that guy

ace3g

08-30-2022, 08:01 PM

Ch3OD3JM2VH

GAustex

08-30-2022, 09:28 PM

Dude needs to lift

JPB

08-31-2022, 03:38 AM

Very excited about this season and seeing how our young players (especially Sochan and Wesley) play.

Hope you're ready for a lot of mess then.

exstatic

08-31-2022, 09:21 AM

Hope you're ready for a lot of mess then.

I’m ready for the mess!

rjv

08-31-2022, 09:34 AM

Hope you're ready for a lot of mess then.

count me in

hombre

09-01-2022, 12:05 AM

Yes to the mess.

bluebellmaniac

09-01-2022, 07:49 AM

FTL!

KingKev

09-01-2022, 07:54 AM

Won’t be messy enough to result in change.

Dejounte

09-25-2022, 12:28 PM

If these two shine on the court as much as they seem like they will off of it, that would be great.

https://i.ibb.co/DwcXCBB/F3-ABF42-A-D882-4948-8724-604-B7-B89-AF49.jpg

Sugus

09-25-2022, 01:55 PM

If these two shine on the court as much as they seem like they will off of it, that would be great.

https://i.ibb.co/DwcXCBB/F3-ABF42-A-D882-4948-8724-604-B7-B89-AF49.jpg

Wow is that Sochan's new hairstyle? Loving the kid already...

Ariel

09-25-2022, 02:13 PM

He's definitely very charismatic, also seems smart and level headed. I think he's likely to become a group leader on and off the court very soon. Brian Wright said they were not gambling on character, and they definitely seem to be getting that part extremely well with pretty much each and every draftee in the past few years. Let's hope he can be equally valuable on the court as well... I'm confident he will.

BacktoBasics

09-25-2022, 02:38 PM

KingKev

09-25-2022, 02:49 PM

I’m still a little unsure what he’s going to bring to this team. We need an athletic scorer or a PG that can create offense for himself or others and he’s definitely not either of those. He’s not exactly a stretch big either.

What do we want from him?

He can immediately add versatility on the defensive end with his switchability. I doubt his touted playmaking ability is realized with this current roster. This is a poor defensive team and I expect him to help there from day one. Apart from that energy and getting out and running which will probably be a product of his defense.

Ariel

09-25-2022, 02:53 PM

I’m still a little unsure what he’s going to bring to this team. We need an athletic scorer or a PG that can create offense for himself or others and he’s definitely not either of those. He’s not exactly a stretch big either.

What do we want from him?
He's definitely none of those, but he's a very smart and versatile defensive PF with the potential to be a secondary playmaker... if things go right he can be somewhat of a Draymond Green kind of player. He won't jump off the gym but he's got quick feet and stays in front of even smaller guards when switching. I can also see him playing some small ball 5. He's not the cure of all our ills (mainly we need a talent infusion) but he's part of the solution.

BacktoBasics

09-25-2022, 03:18 PM

He's definitely none of those, but he's a very smart and versatile defensive PF with the potential to be a secondary playmaker... if things go right he can be somewhat of a Draymond Green kind of player. He won't jump off the gym but he's got quick feet and stays in front of even smaller guards when switching. I can also see him playing some small ball 5. He's not the cure of all our ills (mainly we need a talent infusion) but he's part of the solution.I’m not opposed to the pick but it seems unusual to draft a glue guy vs at least swinging for potential offense. I’m more curious about what Wesley can bring than this kid.

John B

09-25-2022, 03:37 PM

I’m still a little unsure what he’s going to bring to this team. We need an athletic scorer or a PG that can create offense for himself or others and he’s definitely not either of those. He’s not exactly a stretch big either.

What do we want from him?

Don’t forget Sochan can be a ballhandler in screen-and-rolls, someone who can facilitate. That on top of his Swiss Army defense will be so much valuable and what Pop is looking for his big guy. Imagine Bobo with better defense.

Ariel

09-25-2022, 03:40 PM

I’m not opposed to the pick but it seems unusual to draft a glue guy vs at least swinging for potential offense. I’m more curious about what Wesley can bring than this kid.
In this particular draft there weren't that many franchise caliber potential guys, not where he was drafted anyway. So no point in adding to the glut of guards, when you could draft one equally talented with our picks at 20 & 25, as it ended up happening (with Branham & Wesley). Personally I followed this class closely, and he's who I'd have taken at that place. In fact all three of Spurs draftees were the guys I wanted picked (called in in the draft thread before it happened), so I can't really complain. Doesn't mean it'll end up being the right call, but certainly I see the rationale behind the pick.

Mr. Body

09-25-2022, 06:38 PM

Sochan's hair looks like sherbert.

KingKev

09-25-2022, 06:59 PM

If these two shine on the court as much as they seem like they will off of it, that would be great.

https://i.ibb.co/DwcXCBB/F3-ABF42-A-D882-4948-8724-604-B7-B89-AF49.jpg

Pretty nice of them to take a pic with you bro! You rocking your eng rings too! Playa playa

pad300

09-25-2022, 07:17 PM

Sochan's hair looks like sherbert.

It's giving Rodman flashbacks. Hopefully he's less of a clown (while still being as good a player; Rodman could ball...).

The Truth #6

09-26-2022, 09:35 AM

I think Sochan is great. I leaned more towards Tari Eason, but Sochan seems like he’s going to be a fan favorite. And he plays with a edge, which is needed.

exstatic

09-26-2022, 11:06 AM

I think Sochan is great. I leaned more towards Tari Eason, but Sochan seems like he’s going to be a fan favorite. And he plays with a edge, which is needed.

Tari was a 21YO Sophomore, 2 years older and only one more year of experience than Sochan. He also had a weird energy that his teammates seemed to react to negatively. Glad we passed.

Mr. Body

09-26-2022, 12:23 PM

I feel like Eason's going to have a great early impact for a season or two but then sort of fade.

John B

09-26-2022, 12:39 PM

I think Sochan is great. I leaned more towards Tari Eason, but Sochan seems like he’s going to be a fan favorite. And he plays with a edge, which is needed.

I can’t help comparing Eason to JaVale McGee. Great athlete but not all up there.

The Truth #6

09-26-2022, 02:25 PM

He did well in Summer League.

KingKev

09-26-2022, 02:40 PM

He did well in Summer League.

Yeah, very well. Better than anyone on our summer league squad. I’m happy with Sochan at 9 but if Eason fell to 20 he may have made sense.

wildbill2u

09-26-2022, 02:51 PM

Sochan gets a pass for any mention of mental issues while Eason got criticized for his examples of weird or crazy behaviour. Can someone explain this to a dumb guy like me

John B

09-26-2022, 02:54 PM

He did well in Summer League.

JaVale got a Gold. But the comparison athletic freak whose iq might be suspect

The Truth #6

09-26-2022, 03:42 PM

JaVale got a Gold. But the comparison athletic freak whose iq might be suspect

I don’t really see the comparison to JaVale. If you squint from 1000 yards away I guess I can see what you’re talking about very vaguely, but it’s different concerns for different types of IQ. As I understood it, the concern about Tari Eason is that he has low basketball IQ and dominates the ball, whereas the issue with JaVale is that he is an airhead and does weird mistakes on the court like JR Smith.

The Truth #6

09-26-2022, 03:43 PM

Sochan gets a pass for any mention of mental issues while Eason got criticized for his examples of weird or crazy behaviour. Can someone explain this to a dumb guy like me

I think they both should get a pass, honestly. I don’t see a problem with either one of them.

exstatic

09-26-2022, 04:07 PM

He did well in Summer League.

Kyle Anderson looked All NBA In SL.

exstatic

09-26-2022, 04:09 PM

Sochan gets a pass for any mention of mental issues while Eason got criticized for his examples of weird or crazy behaviour. Can someone explain this to a dumb guy like me

All mental issues are not the same. Sounds like Sochan may suffer from a mild depression.

Ariel

09-26-2022, 05:19 PM

Yeah, very well. Better than anyone on our summer league squad. I’m happy with Sochan at 9 but if Eason fell to 20 he may have made sense.
The only gripe I have is that we could have gotten him (if we had moved forward the Dejounte trade) or Duren (using a pick like Detroit did). Either one of them would have made a lot of sense, even with Sochan aboard. But overall I'm happy with Branham as well, and at least I can't really complain since I think this is probably our best draft in the past 5 years.

Ariel

09-26-2022, 05:20 PM

All mental issues are not the same. Sounds like Sochan may suffer from a mild depression.
Lots of people do. As long as it's manageable and not invalidating, which doesn't seem to be the case at all, I'd rather have that than an addicted psycho like Myles Bridges.

LakerHater

09-26-2022, 05:25 PM

https://i.ibb.co/M83R8Tk/Ugly.gif

The Truth #6

09-26-2022, 07:31 PM

Kyle Anderson looked All NBA In SL.

Kyle is a success story. He still has a good career.

exstatic

09-27-2022, 02:41 PM

Kyle is a success story. He still has a good career.

The point wasn’t that he can’t play. The point was that SL performance is a shitty indicator of NBA performance. Kyle is a solid NBA rotation player, something a lot of #30 picks never become.

The Truth #6

09-27-2022, 03:39 PM

rascal

09-28-2022, 08:19 AM

Sochan gets a pass for any mention of mental issues while Eason got criticized for his examples of weird or crazy behaviour. Can someone explain this to a dumb guy like me

One is on the Spurs, the other on the Rockets.

rascal

09-28-2022, 08:20 AM

Spurs got a clown looking player, excellent.

Dejounte

09-28-2022, 08:28 AM

Tari dominating in college is a strong word… he did great statistically, but he wasn’t relied on to score, he came off the bench (which probably is the reason his advanced metrics look good) and he choked big time during the tournament.

I reserve that word for guys like Zion, KD, Anthony Davis who did spectacular in college.

KobesAchilles

09-28-2022, 08:39 AM

I expect Sochan to be a 6 and 6 guy. But it's the little things I'm on the look out for. A high energy guy who dives for loose balls and gets the passion for the game into the fans hearts. My rookie goal for him is Malik Rose. I really want to see him in the right position on defense towards March/April and take charges or he tips the ball out for an offensive rebound. I'm not worried about his dribbling or offensive moveset at all.

The Truth #6

09-28-2022, 11:57 AM

exstatic

09-28-2022, 02:15 PM

I hear what you’re saying, but if we start throwing out college games, and throwing out summer league, and then throwing out G league as all being poor indicators for success, then we don’t have much to work with other than the actual games and that makes it harder to evaluate younger players.

If this is indirectly related to Tari Eason, I’d say he dominated college last year, he dominated summer league recently, so while that doesn’t mean he’s going to be MVP, it doesn’t mean he’s going to suck either.

Of all of those, SL is by far the worst level of comp. It’s pure trash, and not even comparable to the other two. Here’s my non-NBA rankings.

Euroleague
Normal gleague
NCAA
NBL
gleague Ignite short season spoiled brats
China
SL
Overtime Elite

SPURt

10-04-2022, 10:03 PM

I think we can all agree Sochan’s nickname is hence forth and forevermore…. SPRINKLES!!!

1577413070682411008

slick'81

10-05-2022, 12:29 AM

I think we can all agree Sochan’s nickname is hence forth and forevermore…. SPRINKLES!!!

1577413070682411008

https://youtu.be/byuQVTdlfos

KingKev

10-05-2022, 11:02 AM

Ermmmm…. I’d be pissed if someone nicknamed me sprinkles but I think these two young fellas have burgeoning camaraderie.

ismael-robert

10-05-2022, 11:50 AM

You're not over yourself

Drom John

10-05-2022, 02:56 PM

Most nicknames given by fans are bad.
All nicknames given by ST are bad.

Hmm, Keldon Johnson given ...
Sprinkles it is.

SPURt

10-05-2022, 03:15 PM

https://youtu.be/byuQVTdlfos
:lol

KingKev

10-05-2022, 05:06 PM

Most nicknames given by fans are bad.
All nicknames given by ST are bad.

Hmm, Keldon Johnson given ...
Sprinkles it is.

Someone made a non politically correct joke about Keldon and Sochan’s potential
chemistry long before we drafted him. Big body and sprinkles :married:

K...

10-05-2022, 06:24 PM

I do think there is potential in yelling "you've been sprinkled" every time sochan gets a block....the disrespect in that phrase

KingKev

10-05-2022, 06:48 PM

I do think there is potential in yelling "you've been sprinkled" every time sochan gets a block....the disrespect in that phrase

haha sprinkled to me means somebody spiked my drink.

Dejounte

10-05-2022, 07:38 PM

tonight...you

10-05-2022, 07:43 PM

https://youtu.be/KR9zeWJ6xF4

”Jeremy is a freak athlete. Good feel for the game. Lot of the times in the right spots. Can do a little bit of everything. Can guard 1-5. Once he adjusts, he will be really good. On both sides, he’s versatile. He brings the ball up, his offball spacing, his shot is coming along. Has confidence in himself shooting. Since first day he’s been confident in his shot. There are days where he makes a lot.”
The last sentence stuck out to me.
"There are days where he makes a lot."
He's young and have heard nothing, but good things about his love for the game so I'm hopeful he goes from "some days he makes a lot" to just being a consistent shooter.

He has so much else going for him already.

Dejounte

10-13-2022, 07:03 PM

https://twitter.com/matthew_tynan/status/1580696999090827265?s=

exstatic

10-15-2022, 05:28 PM

The last sentence stuck out to me.
"There are days where he makes a lot."
He's young and have heard nothing, but good things about his love for the game so I'm hopeful he goes from "some days he makes a lot" to just being a consistent shooter.

He has so much else going for him already.

Danny Green is a near elite 3 point shooter, career 40% from long, and was really never a consistent shooter. It seemed that he never shot 2/5, but alternated games of 4/5 and 0/5. You make them when you make them. If Sochan gets to a decent %, I’ll live with the hot and cold streaks.

tonight...you

10-15-2022, 07:39 PM

Dejounte

10-17-2022, 01:37 PM

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1582077851284930560?s=

Day 1 starter

GAustex

10-17-2022, 01:46 PM

Dudes shot needs fixn

The Truth #6

10-17-2022, 03:50 PM

Jeremy starting is great, not just for Jeremy, but I think it speaks a lot to Pop’s attitude towards the upcoming season, and hopefully, a willingness to change with the times of what his team needs.

emanueldavidginobili

10-17-2022, 04:31 PM

1582085249009618944

Joseph Kony

10-17-2022, 04:33 PM

damn, rook starting from day one? :wow when's the last time that happened, Tim Duncan?

KingKev

10-17-2022, 04:36 PM

1582085249009618944

Great but also FFS should we really be patronizing Pop for making sane decisions? It's good he has his head out of his own ass but also he stuck it up there to begin with via baffling rotations and playing half of the team out of position for a 2-3 yr period.

John B

10-17-2022, 04:42 PM

It only makes sense in a rebuilding team. I’m just glad Pop is taking a different view this year of playing the young group vs vets.

Mr. Body

10-17-2022, 07:11 PM

Sochan is very good defensively, or at least projects that way.

Offense wasn't really the problem last year, despite issues in various ways.

Sochan is a yapper. He's a big talker and by most accounts a great locker room guy.

The Spurs likely see him as a long-term anchor, a future leader, and a guy who won't get weepy when he makes mistakes.

cd98

10-17-2022, 07:37 PM

1582085249009618944

Translation: We are tanking so we are good if he throws the ball away or bricks shots as long as he gets better over time.

tbdog

10-17-2022, 07:47 PM

Chinook

10-17-2022, 08:09 PM

Danny Green is a near elite 3 point shooter, career 40% from long, and was really never a consistent shooter. It seemed that he never shot 2/5, but alternated games of 4/5 and 0/5. You make them when you make them. If Sochan gets to a decent %, I’ll live with the hot and cold streaks.

It's a myth that elite shooters tend to shoot near their average on any given game. Back in the day, I charted all of Green's and Bowen's games and showed that Bowen was significantly more streaky than Green. I don't know if Danny kept that up though. Just looking and relatively random single-season samples (Green's 2013-2014 vs Bowen's 2004-2005) still suggests that Bowen was really streaky and while he had a larger percentage of good games than Green, he had a larger percentage of horrible, 0fer games too. This is true of a guy like Seth Curry during his best whole season of 2019-2020. Curry is doubtless a superior shooter in terms of performance, but he too had a wider variation on his games that season than Green did on his. It just goes to show how narratives can be built around players. Green wasn't particularly streaky -- he just had a larger percentage of his offense dedicated to an innately streaky shot type. He rarely supplemented his work behind the arc with drives and cuts or midrange shots. Sometimes he did, but most of the time he lived or died by the three. We saw how that worked for a team like the D'Antoni Rockets.

Insofar at it matters in this thread, yeah, it's okay for Sochan to be streaky so long as he brings other parts to his game and isn't selfish. Because of the trajectory of the misses, threes are actually pretty decent shots to rebound off. The offense needs him to take the shots that open for him before it can create better looks for him. If he's taking those shots, then he's doing his job. And if he has games where he cans enough to be a swing-factor, that's just gravy. Danny won multiple games by combining his great defense with a random 18-25 point outburst. If Sochan does anything like that, he'll be well worth the games where nothing's falling.

KingKev

10-17-2022, 08:35 PM

^ Bowen’s value was in keeping some of the best scoring guards/wings of all time in check. Anything he gave on the other side of the ball was just gravy. Bowen going 0fer one game and 4/5 the next gave Timmy more freedom to operate down in those sometimes, treacherous 4 down days.

Leetonidas

10-18-2022, 10:42 AM

damn, rook starting from day one? :wow when's the last time that happened, Tim Duncan?

I actually looked it up and yes, I believe if Sochan is in the SL on day one, he would be the first Spur to begin his rookie campaign as a starter since Tim Duncan in 97/98. kinda crazy

Dejounte

10-24-2022, 08:50 PM

Deserves a bump for his monster defense tonight. Have not seen a Spur put clamps like that since Nephew. Damn.

slick'81

10-24-2022, 09:11 PM

Sprinkle me bitches!!

CGD

10-24-2022, 09:40 PM

His bbiq is through the roof. Also was pleased to see a few moments he appeared to get under KAT’s skin.

mystargtr34

10-24-2022, 09:42 PM

He can be Draymond Green with a mid range game.

The 3 point shot will determine if he becomes an absolute stud or just stays a high-level role player. His floor is already a high-level role player due to his defense, IQ, ball handling etc.

BillMc

10-24-2022, 09:43 PM

Best rookie (so far) since Nephew.

Atl Spur

10-24-2022, 10:00 PM

We tried to tell ya’ll……. The kid has his own money!

ace3g

10-24-2022, 10:24 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff4l4vCWIAETMK7?format=jpg&name=large

Notorious H.O.P.

10-24-2022, 10:36 PM

I like the look on Pop's face in that pic.

stephen jackson

10-24-2022, 10:39 PM

He looks like Rodman lol plays like him too

Ice009

10-24-2022, 10:44 PM

Very impressed with his all around game. If he can get that jump shot going with the three ball, he could be great.

The Truth #6

10-24-2022, 11:00 PM

Beautiful Game tonight. My god. Goosebumps.

John B

10-24-2022, 11:09 PM

Sochan rim-running looks so good. I can see Pop making him facilitate in the future, just not now as he might overwhelm the kid. For now great defense, rebound and if he could shoot those open 3’s would be money

xellos88330

10-24-2022, 11:11 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff4l4vCWIAETMK7?format=jpg&name=large

Tre looking like... "OOOOOOOHHHHH SHIIIIIIITTTT YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!"

GAustex

10-24-2022, 11:23 PM

Nice to see a young lotto pick being influential

Allan Rowe vs Wade

10-24-2022, 11:25 PM

Great but also FFS should we really be patronizing Pop for making sane decisions? It's good he has his head out of his own ass but also he stuck it up there to begin with via baffling rotations and playing half of the team out of position for a 2-3 yr period.

It's OK to STFU on occasion, tbh

Allan Rowe vs Wade

10-24-2022, 11:33 PM

All nicknames given by ST are bad.

nah nah

Verde / LDN
Choo-Choo
The Bi Fundamental
Manure Ginosebleed
The Centerpiece
DePression
Poeltl Potty
Pop-a-snitch
etc

** oh and fuk, the GOAT -- 50 Mills

Allan Rowe vs Wade

10-24-2022, 11:35 PM

lmao TOSB Duncan
Porker (Tissot!)
Nephew

RC_Drunkford

10-25-2022, 03:32 AM

Loved the defense and those alley-oops in transition. He's a great impact player. That 3-ball falling is the most important thing for him to work on right now. He looks great out there for a 19-year old rookie

Rocalcio

10-25-2022, 03:38 AM

nah nah

Verde / LDN
Choo-Choo
The Bi Fundamental
Manure Ginosebleed
The Centerpiece
DePression
Poeltl Potty
Pop-a-snitch
etc

** oh and fuk, the GOAT -- 50 Mills

I know LDN is for Green but what does that mean ?

Mal

10-25-2022, 04:20 AM

So after being coached hard by Pop and benched, Sochan responded with his best game so far. Kid is gonna be special

rankingtear

10-25-2022, 05:15 AM

He is so fast with the ball. His turnaround jumper is good. He has more offensive upside than I thought.

Dejounte

10-25-2022, 06:19 AM

Atl Spur

10-25-2022, 06:58 AM

Versatility + bbiq = one damn good chess piece! He has the makings of a true weapon as he matures

mo7888

10-25-2022, 11:25 AM

I think what was great to see was how he didn’t look overmatched by KAT. KAT clearly has a bigger frame than Jeremy, and he’s probably going to be the biggest matchup Jeremy will get at the PF position. Well, aside from Giannis who will dominate him, everyone, and anyone. There was also a couple pass denials in the post that don’t show up in highlights or on the stat sheet that were super impressive and leads to wins.

I'm actually looking forward to the Nov 11 matchup.. I wanna see how the kid reacts and adjusts to what's coming that night...does he shrink in the moment or compete (even if he's taking a beating)... I'm pretty excited for that match up..

Atl Spur

10-25-2022, 12:00 PM

I'm actually looking forward to the Nov 11 matchup.. I wanna see how the kid reacts and adjusts to what's coming that night...does he shrink in the moment or compete (even if he's taking a beating)... I'm pretty excited for that match up..
I don’t see him shrinking….. he may get worked but that’s expected��

DAF86

10-25-2022, 12:08 PM

Like I said in the game thread, this kid would be a superstar in the 90's.

Ice009

10-25-2022, 12:34 PM

What is the Nov. 11th matchup?

John B

10-25-2022, 12:56 PM

Like I said in the game thread, this kid would be a superstar in the 90's.

He could be a superstar now once he hits them 3’s. His ceiling is better than Draymond imo.

rjv

10-25-2022, 01:47 PM

What is the Nov. 11th matchup?

bucks. i already got my seats.

ambchang

10-25-2022, 02:50 PM

Like I said in the game thread, this kid would be a superstar in the 90's.

Draymond and adebayo are superstars now.

jjspur

10-25-2022, 03:03 PM

Looks like a great start to Sochan's career !!

DAF86

10-25-2022, 03:06 PM

Draymond and adebayo are superstars now.

We have a different understanding of the word "super"star, tbh. :lol

ambchang

10-25-2022, 03:16 PM

We have a different understanding of the word "super"star, tbh. :lol

You mean like Giannis level superstar? Who was sochan like in the 90s? Oakley? Rodman?

rjv

10-25-2022, 03:23 PM

it's hard to compare sochan to anyone from the 80's or 90's all that much because of how different the game is. all i know is that it's really an asset to have someone that can guard 1-5.

SayTown

10-25-2022, 04:53 PM

I know LDN is for Green but what does that mean ?

Latter Day Ninja

Mr. Body

10-25-2022, 05:12 PM

You mean like Giannis level superstar? Who was sochan like in the 90s? Oakley? Rodman?

Most like Anthony Mason maybe.

ace3g

10-25-2022, 05:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-be6sf4sc

DAF86

10-25-2022, 05:28 PM

You mean like Giannis level superstar? Who was sochan like in the 90s? Oakley? Rodman?

I was thinking more on the lines of a young Kevin Garnett.

Atl Spur

10-25-2022, 05:31 PM

Sochan is the new versatile Kawhi….. ( I pray )

ambchang

10-25-2022, 05:31 PM

I was thinking more on the lines of a young Kevin Garnett.

So you thinking a young Garnett would be what sochan is now or what sochan would project to be?

Like, the second or third best PF of all time?

DAF86

10-25-2022, 05:37 PM

So you thinking a young Garnett would be what sochan is now or what sochan would project to be?

Like, the second or third best PF of all time?

I obviously don't think Sochan is as good as Garnett, but if he were to come out in the 90's he would have had way more hype coming up the draft. How many 6'9" guys with the offensive and defensive versatility of this guy do you know that came up in the 90's? The kid does everything well except hit the 3pt shot, which wasn't as important on that era.

ambchang

10-25-2022, 05:42 PM

I obviously don't think Sochan is as good as Garnett, but if he were to come out in the 90's he would have had way more hype coming up the draft. How many 6'9" guys with the offensive and defensive versatility of this guy do you know that came up in the 90's? The kid does everything well except hit the 3pt shot, which wasn't as important on that era.

Anthony mason, John salley, comes to mind. It’s natural to have high hopes for young players, like all parents think their kids will be the next Jimi Hendrix because his/her favourite toy is a guitar, but I don’t see any Garnett in sochan. He is really adebayo Draymond type player and I’d be ecstatic if he could be that good. If he could be Garnett light the spurs don’t even have to tank for wemby.

Then again Walt Williams/Steve smith were magic 2.0, Clarence weatherspoon was the next Barkley anf harold minor was baby jordan. None of them became all stars, let alone superstars. They were more like regular rotation guys.

DAF86

10-25-2022, 05:49 PM

Anthony mason, John salley, comes to mind. It’s natural to have high hopes for young players, like all parents think their kids will be the next Jimi Hendrix because his/her favourite toy is a guitar, but I don’t see any Garnett in sochan. He is really adebayo Draymond type player and I’d be ecstatic if he could be that good. If he could be Garnett light the spurs don’t even have to tank for wemby.

Then again Walt Williams/Steve smith were magic 2.0, Clarence weatherspoon was the next Barkley anf harold minor was baby jordan. None of them became all stars, let alone superstars. They were more like regular rotation guys.

Anthony Mason was 6'5". Salley wasn't anywhere near as versatile as Sochan. :lol

wildbill2u

10-25-2022, 05:59 PM

I obviously don't think Sochan is as good as Garnett, but if he were to come out in the 90's he would have had way more hype coming up the draft. How many 6'9" guys with the offensive and defensive versatility of this guy do you know that came up in the 90's? The kid does everything well except hit the 3pt shot, which wasn't as important on that era.

"Offensive versatility" By that you mean he can catch lobs at the basket and put them in? I wouldn't go bat shit crazy over his offensive versatility just yet. I know you have high hopes for this guy, but don't let your enthusiasm get the best of you. He looks like he may be a player who can get open under the basket by continually moving without the ball, but he's also had a few blocked under the basket. It.s way too soon to compare him with anybody good, great or indifferent. Meanwhile he is in a league of his own on hair styling for a rookie.

LakerHater

10-25-2022, 06:01 PM

https://images4.imagebam.com/d1/e0/1f/MEFYKTF_o.gif

DAF86

10-25-2022, 06:06 PM

"Offensive versatility" By that you mean he can catch lobs at the basket and put them in? I wouldn't go bat shit crazy over his offensive versatility just yet. I know you have high hopes for this guy, but don't let your enthusiasm get the best of you. He looks like he may be a player who can get open under the basket by continually moving without the ball, but he's also had a few blocked under the basket. It.s way too soon to compare him with anybody good, great or indifferent. Meanwhile he is in a league of his own on hair styling for a rookie.

By offensive versatility I mean pretty much anything but 3pt shooting. He is good to pretty good for his position in all of these areas: ball-handling, passing, playmaking, finishing, playing off-ball, short jumpers and pretty much anything that doesn't involve the long ball. And I'm not saying this because of this 4 games' sample size, that was just his scouting report coming out of collage.

ambchang

10-25-2022, 06:17 PM

Anthony Mason was 6'5". Salley wasn't anywhere near as versatile as Sochan. :lol

I thought mason was 6’7”. Dude guarded PGs to hakeem.

Salley was versatile, probably couldn’t dribble like sochan but can run the floor and shoot mid rangers just as good. Better post up game too. And he’s 6’11”. Laimbeer was 7’ tall and was plenty versatile on offence and defence. Horace grant was quite versatile too. Vlade divac, maybe not as versatile nor as good defensively but much better offensively. Shawn kemp was great but was much better offensively. Derrick Mckey. Detlef Schrempt. I wouldn’t call anyone superstars other than Shawn kemp and all of them were not as good as abedayo or Draymond, except maybe kemp.

slick'81

10-25-2022, 07:16 PM

Id love pop to get a few more seasons to mold sochan into a defensive monster

NASpurs

10-25-2022, 07:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-be6sf4sc

JRich's reactions from the bench are funny to me. Seems like he was surprised that Sochan could do those things.

mystargtr34

10-25-2022, 07:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-be6sf4sc

Few things I like about this.

1:25 - Jakob and J-Rich reaction on the bench they are like damn this dude is drilling turn-arounds now :lol
1.50 - The way he comes in to help against KAT once KAT commits to his move. He wasn't the reason for the turnover, but just reading the play and being a disruptor on D is awesome. Haven't had a guy like that since Kawhi.
1.57 - The way Sean just starts laughing at the Spurs styling all over the T-Wolves was most Spurs fans watching the game :lol

Rocalcio

10-25-2022, 10:22 PM

Latter Day Ninja

Thanks, not sure what it refers to though…

Leetonidas

10-25-2022, 10:54 PM

Thanks, not sure what it refers to though…

:lol

It means Long Dick Nigga

exstatic

10-26-2022, 07:55 AM

Draymond and adebayo are superstars now.

Neither are superstars. Draymond couldn’t even take a team to the playoffs.

emanueldavidginobili

10-26-2022, 09:07 AM

1585000938334740480

tim_duncan_fan

10-26-2022, 09:18 AM

Between this guy and Keldon, Pop should never have to say, "I want some nasty," ever again.

exstatic

10-26-2022, 11:13 AM

Last night, Ant Edwards went to the floor on one play, and a teammate reached for his left hand, and Sochan appeared to reach for his right, but pulled it back at the last second.. :lol

Dejounte

10-27-2022, 06:16 AM

Maddog

10-27-2022, 07:32 AM

He made two threes last night finally. He also has this surprising burst when he drives to the basket with the ball. A few more glimpses of him improving his offensive game this season then I’m putting all my chips in.

You can definitely see a way forward for him being a very productive offensive player. Already he's not a complete liability.
If he ever gets a reliable 3 he'll be a challenge for a big to cover as he can go by them with his ball handling and quickness.

BillMc

10-27-2022, 07:41 AM

Going to be our most impactful rookied since Nephew.

The Truth #6

10-27-2022, 08:05 AM

Mr. Body

10-27-2022, 09:52 AM

Very fluid athlete. And by no means below average athlete. More importantly, super confident. He has an easy nature about him. Can’t see him getting rattled. Super fun player. In that sense, the opposite of Draymond Green.

He's actually kind of a cock to opposing players. Ask Tarheels fans about their NCAA tournament game last year. He'll try to get under opponents' skin. Which is sort of weird because he's exactly what you say off the court, very chill and easy going.

exstatic

10-27-2022, 09:59 AM

He's actually kind of a cock to opposing players. Ask Tarheels fans about their NCAA tournament game last year. He'll try to get under opponents' skin. Which is sort of weird because he's exactly what you say off the court, very chill and easy going.

Last night, Ant Edwards went to the floor on one play, and a teammate reached for his left hand, and Sochan appeared to reach for his right, but pulled it back at the last second.. :lol

I don’t mind it if he’s not dirty about it. Before his season at Baylor, one of the coaches took him aside, and told him that euros get pushed around if they don’t fully occupy their space. Seems to have worked.

rjv

10-27-2022, 10:08 AM

John B

10-27-2022, 11:04 AM

Going to be our most impactful rookied since Nephew.

I’d say more impactful than Nephew’s rookie year. Nephew was so shy, Pop had to keep reassuring him and even balked at TP to give him the ball. Not on his 3rd year did Kawhi really start demanding the ball. Whereas Sochan has so much swagger just a few days into the season. He knows he belongs and no respect for opponent. He was guarding KAT who obviously outweighs him but didn’t seem to matter. That look that LeBron gave when Kawhi came back to guard him? I think Sochan has the same effect NOW

The Truth #6

10-27-2022, 11:38 AM

Philthemage

10-27-2022, 11:55 AM

Good point. I guess he isn’t a loud mouth like Draymond is a better assessment.

I do love the prospect of Sochan and Roby running the offense like Draymond as the fulcrum at the top of the key.

The Truth #6

10-27-2022, 11:57 AM

I do love the prospect of Sochan and Roby running the offense like Draymond as the fulcrum at the top of the key.

Sochan, for sure. But is that Roby’s game?

BillMc

10-27-2022, 11:59 AM

I’d say more impactful than Nephew’s rookie year. Nephew was so shy, Pop had to keep reassuring him and even balked at TP to give him the ball. Not on his 3rd year did Kawhi really start demanding the ball. Whereas Sochan has so much swagger just a few days into the season. He knows he belongs and no respect for opponent. He was guarding KAT who obviously outweighs him but didn’t seem to matter. That look that LeBron gave when Kawhi came back to guard him? I think Sochan has the same effect NOW

Yep. I am trying to remember. I think Nephew took over for Dick Jefferson. About a 1/3 of the way through the season? Sochan a starter Day 1. That's a big lead for Jeremy on impactful year....

Mal

10-27-2022, 12:04 PM

Why there isn't a thread with sacral building in name of Jeremy Sochan ?

exstatic

10-27-2022, 12:35 PM

Sochan, for sure. But is that Roby’s game?

Roby clearly put KBD on the 3rd team. He can handle and pass.

The Truth #6

10-27-2022, 01:30 PM

Roby clearly put KBD on the 3rd team. He can handle and pass.

Yeah, but point forward?

exstatic

10-27-2022, 02:22 PM

Yeah, but point forward?

Probably not to the extent of Sochan, but he’s above average in those categories.

kht

10-27-2022, 03:05 PM

How did Roby get cut from the Thunder...

K...

10-27-2022, 03:22 PM

How did Roby get cut from the Thunder...

Too many skinny white guys. They got a type

Mr. Body

10-27-2022, 08:06 PM

How did Roby get cut from the Thunder...

Guessing it was him or Jeremiah Robison-Earle. Very similar players and JRE is younger. They drafted those two Jaylen/Jalen Williams kids and Deng. If they keep doing this there's going to be churn.

playbonner15

10-27-2022, 09:59 PM

Damn a Vassell-Sochan-Roby defensive small ball trio is something to look forward to

baseline bum

10-27-2022, 10:14 PM

nah nah

Verde / LDN
Choo-Choo
The Bi Fundamental
Manure Ginosebleed
The Centerpiece
DePression
Poeltl Potty
Pop-a-snitch
etc

** oh and fuk, the GOAT -- 50 Mills

Turnobili was the best

exstatic

10-28-2022, 07:05 AM

How did Roby get cut from the Thunder...

They have like 50 FRPs, and every year, some players just get cut.

Atl Spur

10-28-2022, 09:51 AM

RC_Drunkford

10-28-2022, 10:14 AM

But but but Presti is running laps around wright!!! Spurs fans can’t stomach a one time mandatory tank let alone years of tanking but continue to bitch non stop! Lol Believe it or not, this past draft may have propelled us further than we know!

I'm definitely not impressed by OKC. They have all these picks, but they really just make sense if you use them in a trade. Drafting that many players won't help them

Ocotillo

10-28-2022, 11:48 AM

I'm definitely not impressed by OKC. They have all these picks, but they really just make sense if you use them in a trade. Drafting that many players won't help them

And that is what they are evidently planning on doing as we saw last draft, I think they gave up three futures to take Dieng.

spurraider21

10-28-2022, 11:51 AM

lol didnt okc burn 3 of their picks for dieng

K...

10-28-2022, 12:15 PM

Lol i think we need a distinct thread to examine okc. They are in unprecedented waters. The pick haul needs to bring in a current star, not more prospects who might be stars. But they're roster is too young to do that now. They should be closer to memphis and NO very soon. But all that talent is worthless if you can't coach 7-12 guys to improve. Thats why the spurs are so good. They're taking non core lottery talents and moving them into the returns youd expect for a young star. Okc got their main haul from paul george. They won't have another paul george for awhile. Teams aren't going to trust their players value unless they play within a system. Recycling talents and picks for future picks isn't a great skill. Finding guys and building around them is.

Mr. Body

10-28-2022, 12:37 PM

Ed Helicopter Jones

10-28-2022, 02:09 PM

Pelicans pulled more out of the draft class before this last one than OKC has for several years. Acevedo, undrafted; Herb was like a 2nd?; Trey Murphy. I like Giddey and some of the others might be okay, but a while back I showed how Presti was a terrible drafter after he took the obvious Harden/Durant/Westbrook picks.

Pels have been crushing it. Making the Thunder and Rocket FO’s look amateuristic.

Atl Spur

10-28-2022, 02:38 PM

Pels have been crushing it. Making the Thunder and Rocket FO’s look amateuristic.

Facts!

ace3g

10-30-2022, 10:41 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgU_4dVXgAATsgu?format=jpg&name=large

emanueldavidginobili

10-30-2022, 10:46 AM

Sucks. He was getting in a groove too. Wish they would call up Bassey or Barlow for tonight.

Kurik

10-30-2022, 10:50 AM

Hopefully Branham gets some time in the fire.

offset formation

10-30-2022, 10:52 AM

Wonder if they're holding Vassell out for any connection to this Primo shit show. Knee soreness (not sprain) keeping him out for 3 games? With today's treatments? Probably nothing at all related but given they both went out the same game and how the Spurs are in a potential legal nightmare, it wouldnt be shocking if a housekeeper says another player was nearby when it happened or sonething.

MannyIsGod

10-30-2022, 10:33 PM

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10-30-2022, 10:49 PM

Only to have him on the sidelines cheering on the team? Nah. Vassel is hurt

99% sure youre right. But Primo was on the bench the game before his world changed too so i wouldnt put a ton of stock in that.

For sure Richardson is, i saw Vassell giving him a hand to get up during one timeout and Richardson had a little grimace on his face as he got up.

Dropping trow is almost assuredly something Primo did by himself without teammates around but its always possible another player was in an adjacentroom or bathroom when it was alleged to have happened qnd spurs are taking the take no chances approach until they can rule everyone else out from involvement.

BackHome

10-30-2022, 11:38 PM

lol didnt okc burn 3 of their picks for dieng

I have no clue what they are doing they have a stud in SGA but they are out even trying to build a team around him - They sat him out like for the last 20+ games last year to pick Chet. I am sure they are going to end up trading him pretty soon as they not even close to competing. It is like there organization and fan base is addicted just to draft picks that is all they seem to care about.

XDT76

10-31-2022, 12:17 AM

Pels have been crushing it. Making the Thunder and Rocket FO’s look amateuristic.

Their greatest deal could be this year's pick swap with the Lakers if things doesn't change soon.

Dejounte

10-31-2022, 12:24 AM

I have no clue what they are doing they have a stud in SGA but they are out even trying to build a team around him - They sat him out like for the last 20+ games last year to pick Chet. I am sure they are going to end up trading him pretty soon as they not even close to competing. It is like there organization and fan base is addicted just to draft picks that is all they seem to care about.

You mean just like this fan base?

Mr. Body

10-31-2022, 05:54 AM

exstatic

10-31-2022, 05:57 AM

Vince Carter's ankle

10-31-2022, 06:13 AM

SGA is not a stud. He’s a D’Aaron Fox/Dejounte Murray high usage illusion.
A lot of people said the same about Booker.

Mr. Body

10-31-2022, 06:31 AM

A lot of people said the same about Booker.

Booker never won anything until Chris Paul came around.

exstatic

10-31-2022, 07:04 AM

A lot of people said the same about Booker.

They never even made the playoffs until CP3 got there. Five years of Devin Booker leading no one nowhere.

exstatic

10-31-2022, 07:25 AM

A lot of people said the same about Booker.

They never even made the playoffs until CP3 got there. Five years of Devin Booker leading no one nowhere.

Vince Carter's ankle

10-31-2022, 09:01 AM

They never even made the playoffs until CP3 got there. Five years of Devin Booker leading no one nowhere.
I completely forgot that in the NBA they play 1 on 1 and the rest of the roster does not affect anything.
But now he is among the contenders for the MVP and in the last season he was in the first All-NBA team.

exstatic

10-31-2022, 09:52 AM

I completely forgot that in the NBA they play 1 on 1 and the rest of the roster does not affect anything.
But now he is among the contenders for the MVP and in the last season he was in the first All-NBA team.

All NBA is a popularity contest. Devin Booker is a #2 or maybe a #3 on a championship team.

Nobody gets a pass when they’re The Guy, an All Star, and can’t make the playoffs. That’s some Anthony Davis style shit right there.

K...

10-31-2022, 10:18 AM

The good news is that Booker will get his chance to show hes learned to be the man once cp3 retired, but the aborted defection of ayton does not bode well for the idea that hes a true star vs a pretender.

Rocalcio

11-02-2022, 11:42 AM

He's available for tonight.

Ocotillo

11-04-2022, 10:11 AM

https://andscape.com/features/spurs-forward-jeremy-sochan-is-the-nbas-most-interesting-rookie/

Nice read.

https://andscape.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/GettyImages-1404767568.jpg?w=700

SpurSpike

11-04-2022, 12:16 PM

He asked Pop to go out for dinner and takes pride in defense. No wonder he is starting as a rookie! That probably caught pop off guard and gave him respect out the gate.

exstatic

11-06-2022, 05:56 PM

He’s looked like ass these last two games. Maybe a respiratory illness plus Denver altitude. If it doesn’t get better in a week or two, just send him to Austin for a month.

KingKev

11-06-2022, 07:17 PM

He’s looked like ass these last two games. Maybe a respiratory illness plus Denver altitude. If it doesn’t get better in a week or two, just send him to Austin for a month.

No different than Keldon, Vassell or DJ. He is a 2-3 year project but will probably come out as a solid rotational player eventually.

One blocked shot versus Gobert and silly STalkers have extrapolated the next KW.

The Truth #6

11-06-2022, 07:24 PM

I wonder if other teams are daring him to shot and this has gotten into his head.

KingKev

11-06-2022, 07:39 PM

I wonder if other teams are daring him to shot and this has gotten into his head.

It’s exactly the case. He was never known as a shooter to begin with. If he can average 1/3 on 4 attempts over his first 3 yrs that is a win. That’s a realistic goal.

John B

11-06-2022, 07:55 PM

It’s exactly the case. He was never known as a shooter to begin with. If he can average 1/3 on 4 attempts over his first 3 yrs that is a win. That’s a realistic goal.

He’ll be fine. We said the same for Keldon and his shots were so high they were almost hitting lights. The good thing is he wasn’t shy out there from day one, and that’s always good.

KingKev

11-06-2022, 08:02 PM

He’ll be fine. We said the same for Keldon and his shots were so high they were almost hitting lights. The good thing is he wasn’t shy out there from day one, and that’s always good.

Completely disagree. Keldon’s shooting mechanics and high arching shots meant promise.

Sochan is brick city from across the court. I like him but he will never be an offensive weapon outside of playmaking.

GAustex

11-06-2022, 08:11 PM

Shoots a side spin ball.
No good shooter does that.
Fix his form and release and maybe good things will happen

tonight...you

11-06-2022, 09:08 PM

Completely disagree. Keldon’s shooting mechanics and high arching shots meant promise.

Sochan is brick city from across the court. I like him but he will never be an offensive weapon outside of playmaking.
Too early to say never.

exstatic

11-06-2022, 09:27 PM

No different than Keldon, Vassell or DJ. He is a 2-3 year project but will probably come out as a solid rotational player eventually.

One blocked shot versus Gobert and silly STalkers have extrapolated the next KW.

It wasn’t just one blocked shot. He looked locked in and engaged at all times, and ran hard up and down the floor. The last two games, he’s just drifted up and down the floor like Lonnie Walker did for four years.

mystargtr34

11-06-2022, 10:01 PM

It wasn’t just one blocked shot. He looked locked in and engaged at all times, and ran hard up and down the floor. The last two games, he’s just drifted up and down the floor like Lonnie Walker did for four years.

I was gonna post this. Disregarding his skills and all that, the last 2 (or maybe 3) games he has looked disinterested, lacked hustle. Especially compared to the first 6-7 games where he was showing his high motor whenever he was on the court. Even a few transition plays on defense in the last two games he ran back and didn't contest when he could have gotten a block or sent a guy to the line.

Its weird. Hopefully its just the illness and not a confidence thing.

Mr. Body

11-06-2022, 10:17 PM

I want to see more from him. The team has lost its way after all the Primo/Wright fuckery and we need some swagger back.

mystargtr34

11-06-2022, 10:22 PM

I want to see more from him. The team has lost its way after all the Primo/Wright fuckery and we need some swagger back.

I think its also the injuries and lineup changes. Putting Richardson and Branham in the SL has nuked the cohesiveness of the SL and bench units especially defensively.

Part of it could be that the Raptors and Nuggets are both really good and likely top 5 seeds, but if your not in tune defensively you will get a lot of points hung on you by them (Raps in transition and Nuggets in half court).

Looking forward to getting the Jak-Sochan-Keldon-Vassell-Tre SL out there for an extended run of games. The bench rotation is more manageable if you have those 5 guys starting.

objective

11-07-2022, 12:05 AM

Maybe he just looked good because Minnesota was so listless on transition defense

KingKev

11-07-2022, 08:14 AM

It wasn’t just one blocked shot. He looked locked in and engaged at all times, and ran hard up and down the floor. The last two games, he’s just drifted up and down the floor like Lonnie Walker did for four years.

And that is worrisome because he isn’t playable if he isn’t adding value via hustle and defensive intensity.

I’m not down on him I just think there is a long way to go. Hard for him to be a glue guy on a team that doesn’t have true offensive weapons.

Kevin

11-07-2022, 10:26 AM

If his three ball never develops than his long term position on offense will be center.

Mr. Body

11-07-2022, 10:32 AM

He also is getting over the flu. If it was anything like what I just had, it's still exhausting to do much days later.

exstatic

11-07-2022, 10:34 AM

If his three ball never develops than his long term position on offense will be center.

They were talking about his 3 ball on the telecast last week, and the consensus was that it needs a tear down, and that you can’t do that during the season. It’ll have to wait for next summer.

KingKev

11-07-2022, 11:07 AM

They were talking about his 3 ball on the telecast last week, and the consensus was that it needs a tear down, and that you can’t do that during the season. It’ll have to wait for next summer.

They basically did that with Primo last year.

I really think Sochan is going to see periods and matchups where we just can’t play him, especially when DV/KJ are out of the lineup.

Seventyniner

11-07-2022, 02:01 PM

And that is worrisome because he isn’t playable if he isn’t adding value via hustle and defensive intensity.

I’m not down on him I just think there is a long way to go. Hard for him to be a glue guy on a team that doesn’t have true offensive weapons.

It's funny how many like to shit on Draymond by saying he would be a nobody on a bad team, and then we get our own version on a bad team and guess what, he sucks on offense.

Sochan is still young; I don't think he will necessarily be a negative on offense his whole career. But he certainly is one at the moment.

B1gduff

11-07-2022, 06:50 PM

You also would need to consider the fact of Vassel being out of the lineup. He our other best defender there. Defensily replace Vassel with Malaki, the switches are much better and also improves the overall defense. Offensively that a big differences. There's more spacing and another ball handeler, where Sochan maynot need to froces himself on certain plays.

rascal

11-08-2022, 06:54 PM

They basically did that with Primo last year.

I really think Sochan is going to see periods and matchups where we just can’t play him, especially when DV/KJ are out of the lineup.

And people here think he's better than Sharpe.

BackHome

11-08-2022, 07:26 PM

Sharpe is a Diva he will probably Jet to the Flakers at the first opportunity

Mr. Body

11-08-2022, 07:52 PM

And people here think he's better than Sharpe.

Lol, you're such a fuckup.

rascal

11-08-2022, 07:54 PM

Lol, you're such a fuckup.

No you are.

You're the clown who would rather have Sochan.

Mr. Body

11-08-2022, 08:20 PM

No you are.

You're the clown who would rather have Sochan.

Of course I would. You're a fucking monkey.

lefty

11-11-2022, 04:45 PM

https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/1591124631947472896

Dejounte

11-11-2022, 05:31 PM

https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/1591124631947472896
The FUCK lmfao

Ariel

11-11-2022, 06:22 PM

Sharpe is a Diva he will probably Jet to the Flakers at the first opportunity
This is actually pretty spot on. Not to say Sochan is a lock to be a lifetime Spur, but I'm 50% ± 50% confident Sharpe would have bolted at the first chance

tbdog

11-11-2022, 09:36 PM

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1591117543108120577?t=xYhv0K_rNWXCyS69FU8A1A&s=19

Dejounte

11-12-2022, 08:40 AM

https://youtu.be/0Q9OKNdRjlk

brotha is a troublemaker. He was getting into another player’s head again. This time it was Bobby Portis.

Mr. Body

11-12-2022, 12:16 PM

https://youtu.be/0Q9OKNdRjlk

brotha is a troublemaker. He was getting into another player’s head again. This time it was Bobby Portis.

Yeah, the entire UNC fanbases despises him for shithousing during that epic Tournament game. Normallly these kinds of players are assholes or have screws loose off the court, but Sochan is a really chill dude in real life.

Atl Spur

11-12-2022, 12:26 PM

He competes……..

Dejounte

11-16-2022, 05:27 AM

https://twitter.com/realtompetrini/status/1592754928405344256?s=

And he’s handling the ball now more than anyone ever expected before the season.

Mr. Body

11-16-2022, 07:07 AM

Don't want to go too far, but once he matches up with players twice...

Those big lineups, he was playing as a three or even a two.

Seventyniner

11-16-2022, 09:26 AM

Don't want to go too far, but once he matches up with players twice...

Those big lineups, he was playing as a three or even a two.

In that insane Sochan/Keldon/KBD/Roby/Poeltl lineup, I would call Sochan the 1. He was far less Tragic Johnson than I was expecting.

Atl Spur

11-18-2022, 08:51 AM

Be prepared to be disappointed... Not only do i not think he will start on day 1... I think he will be in the g league

There are a lot of great (mis)takes in this thread from some of the usual suspects but who’s counting? I like how this dude was so sure and doubled down! (My man meant this) Don’t worry pimp, we all hit or miss….

John B

11-18-2022, 08:56 AM

This kids swagger is special beyond his year, like Draymond/Rodman yet he’s only 19!

heyheymymy

11-18-2022, 05:56 PM

Spurs got a real value with Sochan

spurraider21

11-18-2022, 07:12 PM

he's flashing just about every game in one facet or another. he still has a long ways to go to put it all together... but its tantalizing

ambchang

11-18-2022, 10:01 PM

he's flashing just about every game in one facet or another. he still has a long ways to go to put it all together... but its tantalizing

Hopefully he only keeps the flashing in games.

slick'81

11-18-2022, 10:07 PM

Guy can guard 1-5 and probably play pg-c . Dude just needs to learn how to shoot

timvp

11-19-2022, 02:52 AM

Guy can guard 1-5 and probably play pg-c . Dude just needs to learn how to shoot

Sochan actually had less trouble handling the ball against pressure versus the Kings than Tre Jones did :wow

Though, I don't know if that's more impressive for Sochan or more worrisome for Jones, tbh.

baseline bum

11-19-2022, 03:28 AM

The FUCK lmfao

Rodman used to get a hard-on to troll Karl Malone when Capt Pedo would try to back him down.