Spurs Select F Jeremy Sochan with the 9th Pick in the 2022 NBA Draft

[lefty20]

Dude. This kid is going to be the FACE of the Spurs and there is no question unless Wemby gets drafted and even then...

He is trending to special.
Maybe Manu special.
I know! Too soon, but it's there.

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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1620248087259127810

[NickiRasgo]

I'm probably the only one or one of the few but there's some Kawhi-esque (2014-2015) how he moves esp. for a guy who's expected to be a defender first, utility or role player. To be fair, Kawhi went from being a defender first to be a main scorer and just occasionally defends if only needed.

[gilmor]

he reads the game way advanced ahead of his age.. always looking to attack and help out in what ever ways he can.. in that aspect, he is unique

[slick'81]

Spurs found another gem

[Mr. Body]

I'm probably the only one or one of the few but there's some Kawhi-esque (2014-2015) how he moves esp. for a guy who's expected to be a defender first, utility or role player. To be fair, Kawhi went from being a defender first to be a main scorer and just occasionally defends if only needed.

Sochan is lighter on his feet, Kawhi more powerful. Kawhi was a menace when he actually played defense. I only hope Sochan gets somewhere close.

[MI21]

I love watching this guy play - I was pretty skeptical based on the 20 minutes of Youtube highlights I watched after drafting him, lol, but the man is a joy to watch.

[John B]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1620248087259127810

Kawhi played with a championship team that played great defense, and allowed Kawhi to stay with his man. While Sochan needs to constantly help. I think once the other guys get better defensively, Sochan will be able to stay with his man, on top of getting stronger will become a better lockdown defender, not saying better than Kawhi, but it's possible. Like Kawhi, Sochan also works hard and very coachable.

[NickiRasgo]

Sochan is lighter on his feet, Kawhi more powerful. Kawhi was a menace when he actually played defense. I only hope Sochan gets somewhere close.

Actually I was wrong on Kawhi that he'll be an elite superstar on the way he moves like a bit of stiff and awkward but Kawhi is really naturally strong so not sure with Jeremy since haven't paid attention. lol Jeremy moves like fluid and smoother but if he improves big on offensive end, wow! My expectation on him is low prior to draft since I only see him as an complimentary player hence a lot of people wanted Eason over him since Eason is more athletic and better physical traits but questionable IQ so I wasn't really a fan of him and I'll still choose Sochan prior to draft regardless how Eason progress as well. Really happy how Jeremy progress in the short amount of time.

[DeRozan m8]

Spurs found another gem

Well about time...they hadn't found one in over a decade

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/BetMGM/status/1620233270599512065

how did he end up with 17 points for the whole game?

[John B]

I mentioned in the past that Sochan could be used as a Point Forward ala Bobo. But nobody expected he could play Point Guard. Where are the ST pundits who shoots down Pop for playimg guys out of position? If Sochan pans out as I think he would, it will be because Pop push them out of their comfort zone. Sochan would create mismatches against slower bigs and smaller defenders.

[John B]

how did he end up with 17 points for the whole game?

He had 15 points in the 1st quarter, and a nifty midrange in the 2nd? But funny how Pop pulled him early, played Malaki and Blake to keep the tank :lol

[exstatic]

how did he end up with 17 points for the whole game?

Foul trouble.

[Rocalcio]

Foul trouble.

Which is a shame cause the fourth one was a mistake from the ref’.

[KingKev]

I mentioned in the past that Sochan could be used as a Point Forward ala Bobo. But nobody expected he could play Point Guard. Where are the ST pundits who shoots down Pop for playimg guys out of position? If Sochan pans out as I think he would, it will be because Pop push them out of their comfort zone. Sochan would create mismatches against slower bigs and smaller defenders.

There is a difference between playing a player out of position where he may have advantages and there are lessons to be learned as is the case with Sochan moonlighting as a PG versus Keldon, DDR and Vassell playing the 4 where they have no competitibe advantage and the only thing they learn is that they aren’t capable of playing the 4.

Bobo is a great comparison for Sochan and what his point forward skills could develop into though.

The next experiment I want to see is if Sochan can comfortably play the 3.

[exstatic]

Which is a shame cause the fourth one was a mistake from the ref’.

Yeah, I think that one was actually on Keldon.

[tim_duncan_fan]

how did he end up with 17 points for the whole game?

I mean...since when in recent memory has this team seemed good at/smart about keeping a hot hand going?

This has been an issue for years.

[Rocalcio]

Yeah, I think that one was actually on Keldon.

That was quite obvious on the replay, and Sean and Bill were almost certain it would be removed. But I agree on the fact that Pop kept him out of the game on purpose to secure the L.

[John B]

There is a difference between playing a player out of position where he may have advantages and there are lessons to be learned as is the case with Sochan moonlighting as a PG versus Keldon, DDR and Vassell playing the 4 where they have no competitibe advantage and the only thing they learn is that they aren’t capable of playing the 4.

Bobo is a great comparison for Sochan and what his point forward skills could develop into though.

The next experiment I want to see is if Sochan can comfortably play the 3.

But of course you know when exactly not to push a player out of their comfort zone to learn new skills. You have more rings than PATFO. How else do you play Keldon with DJ, DDR, Poeltl in the line-up? PG? Or play him off the bench and pull his spirit back as non-starter and apparent replacement for DJ. (Not to confuse with Manu 6th man role on a championship team where he close). I don’t remember DDR playing the 4, must be another channel. I remember he played combo guard/SF and part-time facilitator, where he admitted greatly improved his game, well no thanks to Pop. I also don’t remember Vassell playing 4, geez I’m missing a lot of Spurs games, maybe on a small ball where Gay would also play C? If ever it’s based on the speed and size of the competition. For sure Pop would not wake up and decide to play Forbes at 4 because it wouldn’t make sense. Pop has 5 rings, you don’t so we just leave it at that. :bobo

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1620499742001344512

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn0rGXWXoAgNAsr?format=jpg&name=large

[John B]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1620499742001344512

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn0rGXWXoAgNAsr?format=jpg&name=large

Congratulations Jeremy. Something to watch. Scoot will be there too. A lot of teams will be watching

[ace3g]

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Jordan Howenstine @AirlessJordan
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Spurs rookie Jeremy Sochan has been selected to the NBA Rising Stars Game at All-Star Weekend.

Sochan is one of two rookies (Paolo Banchero) in the league this season with 400+ points, 200+ rebounds and 100+ assists.

[rjv]

congrats! (at least there'll be some spurs representation at the all-star break.)

[John B]

I think his Rodman look will get him invites (with the media playing on the similarities). But his plays will get him retun tickets. I’m comparing him to Vassell (and others) who didn’t get the invite as a sophomore despite their increased production

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1620567093832974336

[tonight...you]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1620567093832974336
Hope he's a Spur for Life.

[Mr. Body]

Imagine getting selected for a mid season rookie competition and you have to go to Utah.

[KingKev]

Imagine getting selected for a mid season rookie competition and you have to go to Utah.

Park City is pretty fking dope and I’m not sure if you have ever been to a a city during NBA All Star weekend but I’ve done Cleveland and Toronto and it gets pretty fun.

[Mr. Body]

Park City is pretty fking dope and I’m not sure if you have ever been to a a city during NBA All Star weekend but I’ve done Cleveland and Toronto and it gets pretty fun.

I'm sure the old polygamists have the prime tail on lockdown.

[KingKev]

I'm sure the old polygamists have the prime tail on lockdown.

haha my close friend works for Steve Young’s private Equity fund (HGGC) in San Fran but is now Utah based. Those basic Utah girls are pretty damn hot!!

[timtonymanu]

Well deserved

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/csy1911/status/1616801071246249986

[heyheymymy]

Congratulations Rising Star Sochan!

You earned it. Nice work.

[Dverde]

A little surprised he got the nod with his mediocre start, but he deserves to be in. He should be in the league for awhile.

[John B]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1620567093832974336

Goodluck young Spur. Rooting for you to get the trophy. Is he coming in as a PF or PG? I don’t know how it works for the Rising Star. But Jeremy likes to mix it up, and I’m sure he’s not going to be shy to slam it everybtime. It should be fun.

[Rocalcio]

Goodluck young Spur. Rooting for you to get the trophy. Is he coming in as a PF or PG? I don’t know how it works for the Rising Star. But Jeremy likes to mix it up, and I’m sure he’s not going to be shy to slam it everybtime. It should be fun.

I’m sure his playing style helped him a lot to go there indeed.

[John B]

I’m sure his playing style helped him a lot to go there indeed.

Yup these kind of games are dominated by wings who just takes it all the way to the basket. And Jeremy is never shy to slam it, plus he likes the ally ops and put backs, in addition to his new found confidense on his offensive game. And you know Jeremy is not the type to back down. It will be fun.

[Mr. Body]

A little surprised he got the nod with his mediocre start, but he deserves to be in. He should be in the league for awhile.

He's definitely turned heads these last few weeks.

[scott]

He's climbed up to 7th on the Rookie Ladder: https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-feb-1-2023-edition

My only beef with this list is that Walker Kessler really doesn't deserve the #4 spot at this point. On current trajectory, I could see him falling and Ivey and Sochan passing Keegan Murray (though Keegan has the benefit of playing for the #3 team in the west). If Sochan can keep this up he has a legit shot at 1st team.

[Ariel]

The think we need to keep in mind is that it isn't about who is better now, but who will be more valuable in the future. If Jeremy continues his trajectory, he could end up no. 2 behind Banchero, not because he'll put up more points than Mathurin or Ivey, or he'll make more defensive teams than Kessler, but because his type is so special that he's much harder to come by than a shot blocking center or a scoring guard. This is exactly why I wanted to draft him, as opposed to other more flashy picks.

[Mr. Body]

I said after the draft the best two players would eventually be Mathurin and Sochan. A bit of a hot take, but not unbelievable.

[Ariel]

2022 Draft - Youngest 1st round players (born in 2003)
Jalen Duren: November 18
AJ Griffin: August 25
Nikola Jovic: June 9
Shaedon Sharpe: May 30
Ousmane Dieng: May 21
JEREMY SOCHAN: May 20
Jabari Smith Jr: May 13
MALACHI BRANHAM: May 12
Dyson Daniels: March 17
BLAKE WESLEY: March 16

So basically Sochan and Malachi are among a group of guys born within a few weeks from each other (along with Jovic, Sharpe, Dieng and Jabari Smith Jr) that are only 6 months older than Duren (first) and 3 than AJ Griffin (youngest and second youngest). And Blake Wesley and Daniels are just a couple of months older. So basically most rookies ranked above Jeremy are older than him, between one and (almost) three years (in Keegan Murray's case). He's got a long, very promising road ahead.

[Ariel]

I said after the draft the best two players would eventually be Mathurin and Sochan. A bit of a hot take, but not unbelievable.
I liked them both (in fact they were my top picks for our position), but I always had Banchero no. 1. Still do.

[JPB]

Imagine getting selected for a mid season rookie competition and you have to go to Utah.

That's part of the process.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Josh810/status/1620939199615750146

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1620936246389243905

https://cdn.nba.com/teams/uploads/sites/1610612759/2023/01/20230130_SAS_RT_WAS_243.jpg?imwidth=4589&imheight=3059

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[JPB]

-So, What made you pick Sochan?

-Rising stars selection committee:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-19-2023/i26sTv.gif

[John B]

His Rodman-look will get him noticed, enough to see the kid can play. The media will love him and Jeremy is not shy to back it up, a couple of ally ops, put backs, 3’s, nifty passes. He might even steal the show from Banchero this Rising Star challenge. Let’s see.

[Spurs Homer]

My shitty direct tv took a shit due to ice conditions

why is sochan not playing?
injury?

[Mr. Body]

My shitty direct tv took a shit due to ice conditions

why is sochan not playing?
injury?

Lower back

[SPURt]

I hope he isn’t gone for an extended period of time. He’s the most watchable part

[Rocalcio]

That would suck if this injury drives him to miss the all-star week-end.

[rascal]

I knew the Spurs were going to draft Sochan. I was hoping NO would have drafted Sochan but they are stupid taking Daniels. I knew Daniels wouldn't be as good as Sochan.

NO should have known the spurs would be sweating it out hoping they wouldn't take Sochan.

I wanted the Spurs to get Duren if Sharpe was off the board.

[rascal]

I hope he isn’t gone for an extended period of time. He’s the most watchable part

His game is boring to me. I want no part of any player being compared to that clown Rodman.

[Mr. Body]

His game is boring to me.

Here, this might interest you:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3c4s4r5k4

[SPURt]

Here, this might interest you:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3c4s4r5k4
:lmao

[rogcl1]

His game is boring to me. I want no part of any player being compared to that clown Rodman.

Then do yourself and the world a favor and don't watch him. I agree on your view of Rodtman but show a little more depth and judge the man on his own merits .

[Rocalcio]

His game is boring to me. I want no part of any player being compared to that clown Rodman.

He’s already a bigger offensive threat than Rodman has ever been.

[Drom John]

He's climbed up to 7th on the Rookie Ladder: https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-feb-1-2023-edition

My only beef with this list is that Walker Kessler really doesn't deserve the #4 spot at this point.

I agree:
#1 FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR
#1 basketball-reference WS
#1 basketball-reference VORP
#1 Hollinger PER, VA, & EVA

[wildbill2u]

Here, this might interest you:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3c4s4r5k4

Hmm. Reminded me of my favorite Barkley quote that went like this: Deer can run fast and jump high---but you don't find them playing in the NBA

[Mr. Body]

Hmm. Reminded me of my favorite Barkley quote that went like this: Deer can run fast and jump high---but you don't find them playing in the NBA

Yeah, that's what I was going for.

Every time rascal describes what he thinks is a good basketball player, I'm going to post pictures of deer.

[exstatic]

Yeah, that's what I was going for.

Every time rascal describes what he thinks is a good basketball player, I'm going to post pictures of deer.

He’s such a Sharpe Stan, and, highlight dunks aside, he is one of THE worst players in the NBA. He should be a cautionary tale for anyone considering Amen or Ausar.

[ambchang]

Hmm. Reminded me of my favorite Barkley quote that went like this: Deer can run fast and jump high---but you don't find them playing in the NBA

I thought he said this about stromille swift “He runs like a deer, he jumps like a deer, he thinks like a deer.”

[Rocalcio]

He’s just been drafted by Jooks for the Rising Star Challenge, before guys like Barnes, Jabari Smith JR or Keegan Murray.
His teammates will be Giddey, Jalen Williams, Evan Mobley, Grimes, Smith JR and Duren.
Noah said he liked his fighting spirit, just like his when he was a player.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D05Zxhq5vX4

[exstatic]

It seems like he comes out and rips out a 15 point quarter pretty much every game now.

[Mr. Body]

It seems like he comes out and rips out a 15 point quarter pretty much every game now.

My thing is wondering whether teams adjust for him, reducing his impact for the rest of the game. Not a bad thing, necessarily, just means the needs to adjust back. Essentially he may be taking teams by surprise and then they make changes.

Or, if the leash gets pulled a little and Pop wants to see other things from the team.

[exstatic]

My thing is wondering whether teams adjust for him, reducing his impact for the rest of the game. Not a bad thing, necessarily, just means the needs to adjust back. Essentially he may be taking teams by surprise and then they make changes.

Or, if the leash gets pulled a little and Pop wants to see other things from the team.

I think the leash gets pulled, because Pop wants to lose. If you played Sochan 34-35 minutes a night, it would be tough to lose all of the games we need to, and impossible against the other tankers. We don’t lose the Detroit game if Sochan plays at all.

[Mal]

How Jeremy has not have some sarcal bulding thread ? "Kościół pod wezwaniem Jeremiasza Sochana" sounds perfect

[Mr. Body]

I think the leash gets pulled, because Pop wants to lose. If you played Sochan 34-35 minutes a night, it would be tough to lose all of the games we need to, and impossible against the other tankers. We don’t lose the Detroit game if Sochan plays at all.

I hope and think that's right. Teams will adjust to him. This is why young players sometimes struggle in their second years.

With Sochan, he's just an instant match up problem. John Collins wasn't strong (or really fast) enough for him. Smaller defenders are not strong enough. Stronger defenders are not fast enough. He's already fairly crafty.

[John B]

I’ve mentioned before what Pop saw from him, is his ability as a facilitator in a big body, another Bobo if you may. But Sochan is even more than, that after the switch to one-hand FT. It’s like unlocking all his offensive potentials that he didn’t know he had, and Pop helping him discover. Kawhi was a defensive protege that Pop turned into a offensive machine, showing him Kobe tapes. I’m sure Pop is as excited, Kobe tapes, hey even Magic tapes :lol:lol

[playbonner15]

I’ve mentioned before what Pop saw from him, is his ability as a facilitator in a big body, another Bobo if you may. But Sochan is even more than, that after the switch to one-hand FT. It’s like unlocking all his offensive potentials that he didn’t know he had, and Pop helping him discover. Kawhi was a defensive protege that Pop turned into a offensive machine, showing him Kobe tapes. I’m sure Pop is as excited, Kobe tapes, hey even Magic tapes :lol:lol

Magic and Diaw tapes would be amazing. Diaw's positioning and facilitating on that 2014 run was a masterpiece

[KingKev]

I’ve mentioned before what Pop saw from him, is his ability as a facilitator in a big body, another Bobo if you may. But Sochan is even more than, that after the switch to one-hand FT. It’s like unlocking all his offensive potentials that he didn’t know he had, and Pop helping him discover. Kawhi was a defensive protege that Pop turned into a offensive machine, showing him Kobe tapes. I’m sure Pop is as excited, Kobe tapes, hey even Magic tapes :lol:lol

You should ask Pop if he could show you some grammar tapes.

[John B]

You should ask Pop if he could show you some grammar tapes.

:lmao:lmao That’s funny, your boyfriend taught you that joke? :lmao

[Rubberducky]

I’ve mentioned before what Pop saw from him, is his ability as a facilitator in a big body, another Bobo if you may. But Sochan is even more than, that after the switch to one-hand FT. It’s like unlocking all his offensive potentials that he didn’t know he had, and Pop helping him discover. Kawhi was a defensive protege that Pop turned into a offensive machine, showing him Kobe tapes. I’m sure Pop is as excited, Kobe tapes, hey even Magic tapes :lol:lol

Reading this gave me a stroke.

[Ignazzz]

How Jeremy has not have some sarcal bulding thread ? "Kościół pod wezwaniem Jeremiasza Sochana" sounds perfect
You should add „anglikański”

[RC_Drunkford]

I’ve mentioned before what Pop saw from him, is his ability as a facilitator in a big body, another Bobo if you may. But Sochan is even more than, that after the switch to one-hand FT. It’s like unlocking all his offensive potentials that he didn’t know he had, and Pop helping him discover. Kawhi was a defensive protege that Pop turned into a offensive machine, showing him Kobe tapes. I’m sure Pop is as excited, Kobe tapes, hey even Magic tapes :lol:lol

or they could show him Primo tapes

[Kevin]

or they could show him Primo tapes

What kind of 'Primo tapes' are we talking about?

[Mal]

You should add „anglikański”

Dobre !

[John B]

What kind of 'Primo tapes' are we talking about?

Girls gone wild, Primo suave edition

[KingKev]

Girls gone wild, Primo suave edition

If Coach Pop joined Only Fans would you subscribe?!?

We all have our fetishes!!!

[TD 21]

According to Hollinger, "the outlines of a future star are here".

[RC_Drunkford]

According to Hollinger, "the outlines of a future star are here".

just read that too. Also Branham climbed to 11th on the KIA rookie ladder. The rookies are doing work

[exstatic]

You can teach a player skills like dribbling, passing and shooting, just like you can teach someone what ways the various chess pieces move. One doesn’t create a basketball player and the other doesn’t create a chess player.

Jeremy is a basketball player.

[spurraider21]

just read that too. Also Branham climbed to 11th on the KIA rookie ladder. The rookies are doing work
in February, Branham is averaging 17.4ppg on 49% shooting (40% from 3), 3.5 rebounds, 3 assists per game

for the season, Benedict Mathurin is averaging 17.3 on 43% shooting (31.5% from 3), 4 rebounds, and 1.5 assists per game

[RC_Drunkford]

in February, Branham is averaging 17.4ppg on 49% shooting (40% from 3), 3.5 rebounds, 3 assists per game

for the season, Benedict Mathurin is averaging 17.3 on 43% shooting (31.5% from 3), 4 rebounds, and 1.5 assists per game

Would be amazing if he pans out to be a better player than Mathurin. By the way Malaki has the highest scoring average among all rookies in february

[rascal]

Ball and Sochan are going towards the basket step by step and Ball easily scores a layup over him. Sochan doesn't get off the ground fast enough and lacks vertical lift.

[exstatic]

Ball and Sochan are going towards the basket step by step and Ball easily scores a layup over him. Sochan doesn't get off the ground fast enough and lacks vertical lift.

He blocked 7’1” Mark Williams at the rim. Twice. Once at each end of the court.

[rascal]

He blocked 7’1” Mark Williams at the rim. Twice. Once at each end of the court.

But Ball is too quick, too good for him.

[rascal]

Would be amazing if he pans out to be a better player than Mathurin. By the way Malaki has the highest scoring average among all rookies in february

Still would rather have Mathurin, just a quicker more talented offensive player overall although Branham was a great pick where the Spurs got him. Mathurin might be scoring 30 a night if given the green light with this Spurs team.

[buttsR4rebounding]

But Ball is too quick, too good for him.

Him and virtually every other big in the league. Shocking...

[Mr. Body]

Ball and Sochan are going towards the basket step by step and Ball easily scores a layup over him. Sochan doesn't get off the ground fast enough and lacks vertical lift.

Lamello Ball is a very gifted player who will win crazy possessions often, but not often enough to actually win too many basketball games. He relies purely on that talent and there's plenty of games where it fails him.

Point of basketball isn't winning those flashy possessions - they're nice, and thrill people. The point is - you get about 100 possessions on each side of the ball every game for 82 games. Unless he learns discipline and grind, he's not going to win nearly enough of those possessions to not just be flashy. I don't think anyone imagines Lamello Ball going deep in the playoffs.

This is what a player like Duncan knew.

[exstatic]

But Ball is too quick, too good for him.

You said Sochan had no lift,which is patently false if he can do a quick jump off the floor to block a 7’1” center, twice.

[rascal]

Lamello Ball is a very gifted player who will win crazy possessions often, but not often enough to actually win too many basketball games. He relies purely on that talent and there's plenty of games where it fails him.

Point of basketball isn't winning those flashy possessions - they're nice, and thrill people. The point is - you get about 100 possessions on each side of the ball every game for 82 games. Unless he learns discipline and grind, he's not going to win nearly enough of those possessions to not just be flashy. I don't think anyone imagines Lamello Ball going deep in the playoffs.

This is what a player like Duncan knew.

Ball is a great player who doesn't have enough support from teammates. He doesn't play on good enough teams. He'll go deep in the playoffs with a better supporting cast.

My point is Sochan is not stopping the better players in the league. You need top offensive players to win in this league.

[rascal]

You said Sochan had no lift,which is patently false if he can do a quick jump off the floor to block a 7’1” center, twice.

He doesn't. He has lenght but doesn't jump well.

[rascal]

Lamello Ball is a very gifted player who will win crazy possessions often, but not often enough to actually win too many basketball games. He relies purely on that talent and there's plenty of games where it fails him.

Point of basketball isn't winning those flashy possessions - they're nice, and thrill people. The point is - you get about 100 possessions on each side of the ball every game for 82 games. Unless he learns discipline and grind, he's not going to win nearly enough of those possessions to not just be flashy. I don't think anyone imagines Lamello Ball going deep in the playoffs.

This is what a player like Duncan knew.

Duncan was one of the best players to ever play in the NBA. Ball is no where near him in talent.

[rjv]

Ball is a great player who doesn't have enough support from teammates. He doesn't play on good enough teams. He'll go deep in the playoffs with a better supporting cast.

My point is Sochan is not stopping the better players in the league. You need top offensive players to win in this league.

you see, when i see these kind of arguments, i need more than just what reads like an observation from watching a game. i need numbers. compare sochan's defensive stats guarding the better players to other top rookie defenders (or 19 year olds) and build up the argument from there.

[Mr. Body]

Ball is a great player who doesn't have enough support from teammates. He doesn't play on good enough teams. He'll go deep in the playoffs with a better supporting cast.

My point is Sochan is not stopping the better players in the league. You need top offensive players to win in this league.

You're completely missing the point, but that's not surprising. Ball isn't going to win anything in this league if he continues to just sling the ball around and rely on his talents. He needs a completely different mindset. It's not about his teammates, it's about him.

[Rocalcio]

Would be amazing if he pans out to be a better player than Mathurin. By the way Malaki has the highest scoring average among all rookies in february

He's just improving his numbers like he did in his last college year, starting slowly and finishing strong.

[rascal]

You're completely missing the point, but that's not surprising. Ball isn't going to win anything in this league if he continues to just sling the ball around and rely on his talents. He needs a completely different mindset. It's not about his teammates, it's about him.

That's your opinion. I disagree, Surround hime with better talent and he can win.

[exstatic]

That's your opinion. I disagree, Surround hime with better talent and he can win.

Franchise guys elevate and make their teammates better. They don’t rely on them to elevate themselves.

[Mr. Body]

Lamello is basically a worse version of Doncic. They both win games out of incredible talent, but Lamello's not at the same level. If Mark Williams is good and they get wifebeater back and a good draft pick, they should be a playoff team, but I'd never bet on him actually doing much. Again, you have to have discipline to win possession after possession and he just doesn't have it.

[objective]

Is it just me or does Sochan play zero pick & roll possessions as the screener?

His offense is all transition, cuts, drives, post ups, but I feel like I never see him set picks and roll or pop. Or picks at all.

He has so many dunks but when I watch the YouTube comp videos of them it's hard to find roll dunks.

That's probably the next frontier for him. Get him attacking in the short roll. Let's see some 2 man game with Branham. Maybe I've just missed all the possessions.

[exstatic]

Is it just me or does Sochan play zero pick & roll possessions as the screener?

His offense is all transition, cuts, drives, post ups, but I feel like I never see him set picks and roll or pop. Or picks at all.

He has so many dunks but when I watch the YouTube comp videos of them it's hard to find roll dunks.

That's probably the next frontier for him. Get him attacking in the short roll. Let's see some 2 man game with Branham. Maybe I've just missed all the possessions.

Roll players are generally role players. My thought is if he can create his own offense, let him. don’t drag the guard’s defender into the play for an easy double team.

[TD 21]

Is it just me or does Sochan play zero pick & roll possessions as the screener?

His offense is all transition, cuts, drives, post ups, but I feel like I never see him set picks and roll or pop. Or picks at all.

He has so many dunks but when I watch the YouTube comp videos of them it's hard to find roll dunks.

That's probably the next frontier for him. Get him attacking in the short roll. Let's see some 2 man game with Branham. Maybe I've just missed all the possessions.

He was primarily paired with a rim running C most of the season. Collins is obviously worse than Poeltl, but more versatile all the same and because of that, he opens up more possibilities with Sochan.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JSochanStan/status/1626239701932998658

https://twitter.com/JSochanStan/status/1626248235558871041

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1626712451046866944

[JPB]

Our lil' baby in the Rising stars :cry

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-18-2023/3iQBqA.gif

[ace3g]

He has a bet with Jabari, if he hits a half court shot, Jabari has to dye his hair.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1626775168788967424

[ace3g]

Sochan dunk alert!!!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp/status/1626781580902424577

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1626781623726354433

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1626782240159023105

[lefty20]

Just wanted to say Fuck Jason Terry!

Wanted a shoot a RPG up his arse every time he did his JET celebration back in the day.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/1626782516182138882

[AFBlue]

Hell yeah dude. Dawg.

[Mr. Body]

Who made these teams? Sochan's team was much better.

[SPURt]

Grimes is going off, crazy. Sochan not looking as good this game. Giddey can pass.

[John B]

Alvarado getting the Riding Star MVP :lol

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpOFoR_WAAItIWp?format=jpg&name=large

[Mr. Body]

Did they specifically make a team of G-League guys? They sucked.

[John B]

That was a nasty dunk

[Dex]

Did they specifically make a team of G-League guys? They sucked.

Yep, I think they were trying to showcase how the GLeague can compete with NBA and, well....they didn't :lol

[Mr. Body]

Yep, I think they were trying to showcase how the GLeague can compete with NBA and, well....they didn't :lol

You're right. Man, what a whiff. If they want to put G-League guys in there, mix them in with the other teams. No one cares about Leonard Miller. The broadcast team was reduced to talking about Mac McClung. After getting swatted in his first possession (got bailed out, though) Scoot did absolutely nothing.

[Ariel]

Who made these teams? Sochan's team was much better.
The coaches drafted them from those selected to participate.

[KingKev]

Damn AS weekend has gotten real corny. Slam dunk competitors are weak.

[Mr. Body]

The coaches drafted them from those selected to participate.

I was talking about the G-League team, thinking some idiot decided to only draft them.

[K...]

Damn AS weekend has gotten real corny. Slam dunk competitors are weak.

whole league is corny. they got addicted to TV right money which seemed like free growth forever. Now that they have to put a product out to continue to grow and are losing lebron soon,

[Mr. Body]

whole league is corny. they got addicted to TV right money which seemed like free growth forever. Now that they have to put a product out to continue to grow and are losing lebron soon,

... Their two best players are Eastern Europeans and the rest are foul merchants.

[Dex]

... Their two best players are Eastern Europeans and the rest are foul merchants.

They'll be okay, they can get a few good years of milking Bronny James and his inevitable partnership with LeBron

Still waiting for The Undertaker to come out of the locker room so he can challenge Zion to a cage match

[Dejounte]

Theres been a lot of quotes from all stars and rookie peers about Sochan.

heres one from Tatum

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1627052595243016193?s=46&t=0PBEjJxEfThzUsEkDcDX9g
ace3g come on bro

[Rocalcio]

Damn AS weekend has gotten real corny. Slam dunk competitors are weak.

You got it all wrong :lol
It was a great dunk contest.

[KingKev]

You got it all wrong :lol
It was a great dunk contest.

I actually really did. Hopefully brings some more competition to the even after he raised the bar.

[Mr. Body]

Dunk contest won by a guy not even in the league. :lol

[BacktoBasics]

Dunk contest won by a guy not even in the league. :lol

TBH pulling dudes off the street to compete in the contest against pros would actually be a lot more interesting. Maybe 2-3 nobodies submit some tape to get selected to compete.

[Ariel]

Dunk contest won by a guy not even in the league. :lol
Well, at least he made the whole thing enjoyable. I usually hate the slam dunk contest, but this time I enjoyed it. Props to him and Trey Murphy.

[Mr. Body]

I just like that Shaeden Sharpe was going to be in it, but got his feelings hurt by not getting picked for Rising Stars and pulled out.

[Dex]

TBH pulling dudes off the street to compete in the contest against pros would actually be a lot more interesting. Maybe 2-3 nobodies submit some tape to get selected to compete.

Yeah, Mac definitely got more hype just because he's a short-ish white dude and also a G-Leaguer...but his dunks were still the most impressive of the night (and probably better than what we've seen in years).

The problem with the dunk contest is basically everything has been done. Someone could come out and perfectly replicate Jordan's best dunks and they'd be lucky to get 45 because everyone has seen it 100 times. Which means guys have to resort to silly bullshit, or be some nobody who comes in and does shit you wouldn't expect.

[K...]

They should just do a dunk tourney and invite everybody. Nice way to make stars. It'd be cool if NBA did a streetball informal league to keep up with demand. just some pop up events for the chance to get exsposure

[Mr. Body]

Maybe they can do like an American Ninja obstacle course. With a hoop at the end.

[exstatic]

I just like that Shaeden Sharpe was going to be in it, but got his feelings hurt by not getting picked for Rising Stars and pulled out.

Missed his one and only chance to be a part of AS weekend.

[Mr. Body]

Missed his one and only chance to be a part of AS weekend.

Man I love dragging Shaeden Sharpe.

[rascal]

Man I love dragging Shaeden Sharpe.

Sharpe will make more all star appearances than Sochan.

[Ice009]

Sharpe will make more all star appearances than Sochan.

I doubt it. We'll see.

[rascal]

I doubt it. We'll see.

Sharpe is a better offensive player and that is who makes the all star teams, the top league scorers.

[K...]

Sharpe is a better offensive player and that is who makes the all star teams, the top league scorers.

they play different positions. Also sharpe isn't likely to be going to playoff bound teams once lillard gets traded. He';s going to be forgotten until he gets out of tank Portland

[Ariel]

Sharpe is a better offensive player and that is who makes the all star teams, the top league scorers.
Sharpe may be athletic and he can score, and certainly being flashier might help him get attention. But as an overall, 2 way basketball player, I'll take Sochan.
Simply put, one dimensional, undersized guards with low IQ are easier to come by.

[exstatic]

Sharpe will make more all star appearances than Sochan.

He wasn’t even picked for rising stars challenge, and that’s the lowest bar to be able to attend AS weekend.

[Mr. Body]

Dunno, man, Sochan is already way better. He's popping like crazy.

[rascal]

He wasn’t even picked for rising stars challenge, and that’s the lowest bar to be able to attend AS weekend.

Still will have more all star appearances. Sharpe isn't on a tanking team with more opportunity. Sochan wouldn't have made that rising star challenge game either if he was on Portland.

[rascal]

Dunno, man, Sochan is already way better. He's popping like crazy.

He isn't way better. Portland would not trade Sharpe for Sochan straight up.
Their fans would be in an uproar if they did.

[exstatic]

He isn't way better. Portland would not trade Sharpe for Sochan straight up.
Their fans would be in an uproar if they did.

They would do it so fast, your head would spin. BTW, Malaki is better than Sharpe, too.

[rascal]

They would do it so fast, your head would spin. BTW, Malaki is better than Sharpe, too.

No, your Spur bias is showing.

[exstatic]

No, your Spur bias is showing.

It’s a talent bias. Other players drafted after Sharpe are better, too. Jalen Duran is a fine young player, better than Sharpe, and not a Spur. AJ Griffin is better, too.

[rascal]

It’s a talent bias. Other players drafted after Sharpe are better, too. Jalen Duran is a fine young player, better than Sharpe, and not a Spur. AJ Griffin is better, too.

You aren't seeing talent if you think those guys have higher upside and are better than Sharpe.

Time will tell.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Sharpe is a better offensive player and that is who makes the all star teams, the top league scorers.
Malaki is a better offensive player than Sharpe. Does that mean he'll have more All-Star appearances?

[rascal]

Malaki is a better offensive player than Sharpe. Does that mean he'll have more All-Star appearances?

Malaki is not better.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Malaki is not better.
https://media.tenor.com/ialM1e4pJXkAAAAC/lol-haha.gif

[rascal]

Go and ask Blazer fans and you'll see no one wants to trade Sharpe for Sochan.

[Ariel]

We're arguing over preference here. You value one dimensional athletes, you pick Sharpe. Most people here value all around, smart basketball players, we take Sochan. It was that way even before the draft, so there's no point in arguing. What I will concede is that I was extremely skeptical of Sharpe, and even though he's not the kind of player I'd build around, he's got the raw tools to keep him in the league for a long time. I don't think he'll be the superstar you're expecting, though. And in any case, I think Malaki at 20 will end up much better value than Sharpe at 7.

[KingKev]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065575-2022-nba-re-draft-1st-round-redo-ahead-of-rising-stars-challenge

[exstatic]

Sharpe’s most likely outcome is something along the lines of Lonnie Walker or Ben McLemore, über athletes with a nice jumper, but no feel for the game. Lonnie is in season five, and Ben lasted nine seasons, but is currently unemployed.

[Ariel]

Sharpe’s most likely outcome is something along the lines of Lonnie Walker or Ben McLemore, über athletes with a nice jumper, but no feel for the game. Lonnie is in season five, and Ben lasted nine seasons, but is currently unemployed.
That's too harsh, but yeah, he's a disproportionately better athlete than basketball player. This is why you need to evaluate players in a competitive, organized basketball context. There's no substitute for it.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Sharpe is a mental midget. Initial reports that he dropped out of the dunk contest because he was passed over for the Rising Stars challenge were quickly covered up by the team through Shams saying he wanted to instead focus on the second half of the season. Even the most ardent Blazers' fan doesn't believe that line of BS. In Sharpe you have a prima donna that goes into pout mode when he doesn't get his way. That's a major red flag against a successful NBA career. I don't know how good Maliki will end up being but he doesn't appear to have glass ego Sharpe does.

[rascal]

Sharpe is a mental midget. Initial reports that he dropped out of the dunk contest because he was passed over for the Rising Stars challenge were quickly covered up by the team through Shams saying he wanted to instead focus on the second half of the season. Even the most ardent Blazers' fan doesn't believe that line of BS. In Sharpe you have a prima donna that goes into pout mode when he doesn't get his way. That's a major red flag against a successful NBA career. I don't know how good Maliki will end up being but he doesn't appear to have glass ego Sharpe does.

Mental midgets don't play in the NBA at age 19.

[rascal]

Duren was the better pick for the Spurs instead of Sochan. Duren looks like a young David Robinson.

[scott]

Again stating your opinion as fact.

[rascal]

[/B]

Opinions not facts

[K...]

we should just make a rascal takes thread. I am putting money in the bank for the inevitable "Sharpe is a better prospect than wemby" and want to see it happen. The money is to check myself into a mental institution from the psychic damage of having to see such a bad take

[Spurs Homer]

Duren was the better pick for the Spurs instead of Sochan. Duren looks like a young David Robinson.

just stop

i also wanted duren and he isnt a bad player but please

d rob was a freak of nature and had strength, speed, athleticism, etc
worlds beyond what duren will ever approach

[Spurs Homer]

They would do it so fast, your head would spin. BTW, Malaki is better than Sharpe, too.

please stop

malaki might end up being ok

But he is so far- pretty fucking below average and needs to work on his long range shooting

he IS better than that other scrub- wesley something or other- but please stop making him out to be anything other than a below avgg rookie

[rascal]

just stop

i also wanted duren and he isnt a bad player but please

d rob was a freak of nature and had strength, speed, athleticism, etc
worlds beyond what duren will ever approach

David was better when he entered the league, clear number 1 pick. He was older. Duren has room to grow that's why I said a young David Robinson (at 19).
He dropped 30 and 17 on the Spurs

[BacktoBasics]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065575-2022-nba-re-draft-1st-round-redo-ahead-of-rising-stars-challengeI believe spurs would still take Sochan in this redraft.

[Mr. Body]

we should just make a rascal takes thread. I am putting money in the bank for the inevitable "Sharpe is a better prospect than wemby" and want to see it happen. The money is to check myself into a mental institution from the psychic damage of having to see such a bad take

He's already getting obsessed with Jalen Hood-Schifino in this draft.

[rascal]

He's already getting obsessed with Jalen Hood-Schifino in this draft.

That kid is going to be good.

[rascal]

He's already getting obsessed with Jalen Hood-Schifino in this draft.

I was high on Mikael Bridges and wanted the Spurs to target him in a trade when he got drafted. he turned out pretty good.

[Ariel]

He's already getting obsessed with Jalen Hood-Schifino in this draft.
That kid is going to be good.
He doesn't have enough burst.

[KingKev]

I believe spurs would still take Sochan in this redraft.

Agreed. I have no qualms with the pick now or then. This draft had alot of high end role player talent.

[rascal]

He doesn't have enough burst.

He's fine going to the basket.

[Ariel]

Duren was the better pick for the Spurs instead of Sochan. Duren looks like a young David Robinson.
No he wasn't. Duren is closer to a shorter, less dominant Dwight Howard than David Robinson. In an era where those traits are nowhere near as important as they used to be. Duren's ceiling is capped to poor man's Dwight Howard / rich man's Andre Drummond... Sochan can be much more than that. In fact, Duren is probably not even the top center in his class, that honor goes to Kessler, which is probably the one true miss on the Spurs board (not blaming them, I didn't see it either).

[Ariel]

He's fine going to the basket.
Not enough athleticism. Can't be a no. 1 option. Not exciting. Won't make many all stars.

[Spurs Homer]

David was better when he entered the league, clear number 1 pick. He was older. Duren has room to grow that's why I said a young David Robinson (at 19).
He dropped 30 and 17 on the Spurs

but d rob could jump 3 times as high as duren

was 3 times as fast as duren

and was built to run and jump and had the strength to hold his ground against shaq
duren has 1/100th of daves talent

[exstatic]

please stop

malaki might end up being ok

But he is so far- pretty fucking below average and needs to work on his long range shooting

he IS better than that other scrub- wesley something or other- but please stop making him out to be anything other than a below avgg rookie

He has an excellent chance to be rookie of the month for February, leading all rookies in scoring so far. if you’ve watched games this year, he’s made huge leaps since the beginning of the year, kind of like what he did at OSU last year. Long range shooting is only one facet of the game, and judging by his 78% FTs, it’ll be there. He shot 41.5% at OSU. Devin had similar numbers at FSU over his two years, and struggled his first two years here, shooting 35 and 36% before returning to his college numbers, shooting 40% this year.

The things Malaki does in the half court, seeking out, or creating space for himself to shoot off the bounce, are so far beyond what he should be doing as a rookie. When he’s in motion to score, he doesn’t over dribble, and he doesn’t pickup his dribble until he’s rising up to shoot. If you’re not watching the games, and only looking at his cumulative stats, that might explain your puzzling take.

[Mr. Body]

I guess if you compare Branham to, like, Jimmy Butler, he's below average. But what he's showed in the last couple months as a rookie is remarkable by any measure and he's making a case that he probably should have been a top 10 pick.

[Ariel]

I guess if you compare Branham to, like, Jimmy Butler, he's below average. But what he's showed in the last couple months as a rookie is remarkable by any measure and he's making a case that he probably should have been a top 10 pick.
Jimmy Butler:
1st season (22 y.o): 2.6 pts, 1.3 rb, 40.5 fg%, 8.8 mpg
2nd season (23 y.o): 8.6 pts, 4.0 rb, 46.7 fg%, 26 mpg
3rd season (24 y.o): 13.1 pts, 4.9 rb, 39.7 fg%, 38.7 mpg

Malaki Branham:
1st season (19 y.o): 9.1 pts, 2.1 rb, 1.9 as, 44.5 fg%, 31.5 3p%, 22 mpg
Last 10 games: 15.6 pts, 3.7 rb, 2.6 as, 49.2 fg%, 36.5 3p%, 29.9 mpg

[rascal]

but d rob could jump 3 times as high as duren

was 3 times as fast as duren

and was built to run and jump and had the strength to hold his ground against shaq
duren has 1/100th of daves talent

Not at 19 he wasn't able to hold up against Shaq. David was older when he came into the league.

[Spurs Homer]

He has an excellent chance to be rookie of the month for February, leading all rookies in scoring so far. if you’ve watched games this year, he’s made huge leaps since the beginning of the year, kind of like what he did at OSU last year. Long range shooting is only one facet of the game, and judging by his 78% FTs, it’ll be there. He shot 41.5% at OSU. Devin had similar numbers at FSU over his two years, and struggled his first two years here, shooting 35 and 36% before returning to his college numbers, shooting 40% this year.

The things Malaki does in the half court, seeking out, or creating space for himself to shoot off the bounce, are so far beyond what he should be doing as a rookie. When he’s in motion to score, he doesn’t over dribble, and he doesn’t pickup his dribble until he’s rising up to shoot. If you’re not watching the games, and only looking at his cumulative stats, that might explain your puzzling take.

I watch the games -

just not impressed with branham - and yes he has improved as the season went along but i am still not impressed.

Maybe next season he will improve enough to not suck but we aren't there yet.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, I really hate watching him hit all those shots.

[rascal]

but d rob could jump 3 times as high as duren

was 3 times as fast as duren

and was built to run and jump and had the strength to hold his ground against shaq
duren has 1/100th of daves talent

When he came into the league but not at 19.

[Spurs Homer]

When he came into the league but not at 19.


wrong

he was doing it all in the navy

[BackHome]

No he wasn't. Duren is closer to a shorter, less dominant Dwight Howard than David Robinson. In an era where those traits are nowhere near as important as they used to be. Duren's ceiling is capped to poor man's Dwight Howard / rich man's Andre Drummond... Sochan can be much more than that. In fact, Duren is probably not even the top center in his class, that honor goes to Kessler, which is probably the one true miss on the Spurs board (not blaming them, I didn't see it either).

I wanted Kessler....:(

[Mr. Body]

I wanted Kessler....:(

Right, but then you can't take Malaki Branham if you take Walker Kessler. Right now it's at least a toss up.

[Ariel]

I wanted Kessler....:(
But did you want Sochan? and Branham? Because he'd come at the expense of one of those 2, and I'm very high on them as well. In an ideal world we could have landed another pick, trade up from 25, or whatever... but that's hindsight + fantasy, not reality. All in all, we did great.

[John B]

I watch the games -

just not impressed with branham - and yes he has improved as the season went along but i am still not impressed.

Maybe next season he will improve enough to not suck but we aren't there yet.

Branham is not the fastest, does not have the quick 1st step, not the most athletic. So sure he’s not gonna pop out, but he has the old man’s game, just knows how to score - and at 19 yrs old. When he gets another year or two of experience, getting NBA strong, I’d be very excited what he could do.

[Spurs Homer]

Branham is not the fastest, does not have the quick 1st step, not the most athletic. So sure he’s not gonna pop out, but he has the old man’s game, just knows how to score - and at 19 yrs old. When he gets another year or two of experience, getting NBA strong, I’d be very excited what he could do.

hoping you are correct…

[The Truth #6]

There’s a lot to be said for the old man game in the NBA. Luka and the Joker basically play like 36-year-olds even though they’re in their 20s.

[rjv]

There’s a lot to be said for the old man game in the NBA. Luka and the Joker basically play like 36-year-olds even though they’re in their 20s.

:bobo

[Atl Spur]

Branham is not the fastest, does not have the quick 1st step, not the most athletic. So sure he’s not gonna pop out, but he has the old man’s game, just knows how to score - and at 19 yrs old. When he gets another year or two of experience, getting NBA strong, I’d be very excited what he could do.

Give me skill over speed every time! Branham is super nice ( sneaky athletic ) and composed.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1628474706025410561

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVK6ci9e32E

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVK6ci9e32E

Those baggy jeans were they Timmy's?? :lol

[rascal]

wrong

he was doing it all in the navy

David Robinson was only 6'7" when he joined Navy

[spurraider21]

what happened between the rising stars game and yesterday's game?

[exstatic]

what happened between the rising stars game and yesterday's game?

He developed a case of Tank Toe.

[Sugus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVK6ci9e32E

Man looks high as a kite in this video :lol

[buttsR4rebounding]

He developed a case of Tank Toe.

:lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

David Robinson was only 6'7" when he joined Navy

Did he suddenly become 7'1 the day before joining the NBA?

[buttsR4rebounding]

Did he suddenly become 7'1 the day before joining the NBA?

No, but he grew 6 inches between his freshman and Junior years. The max height the Navy will take someone is 6’8”.

[John B]

Man looks high as a kite in this video :lol

Are those Timmy’s baggy clothes? :lol

I think he’s going to be a mainstay at AS. Sochan has character and charm, and of course the hair, on top of posting better numbers every game. He’ll be a top 3 of his class imo, with his ability to facilitate, defend the best players and score when his number is called, the best 2way in his class eventually.

[KingKev]

Are those Timmy’s baggy clothes? :lol

I think he’s going to be a mainstay at AS. Sochan has character and charm, and of course the hair, on top of posting better numbers every game. He’ll be a top 3 of his class imo, with his ability to facilitate, defend the best players and score when his number is called, the best 2way in his class eventually.

Lol outside of the rookie game Sochan won’t be back at AS Weekend for awhile, if ever.

[rascal]

Are those Timmy’s baggy clothes? :lol

I think he’s going to be a mainstay at AS. Sochan has character and charm, and of course the hair, on top of posting better numbers every game. He’ll be a top 3 of his class imo, with his ability to facilitate, defend the best players and score when his number is called, the best 2way in his class eventually.

It was a gift AS appearance as the NBA needed to add one player from San Antonio someplace. I don't think he will be a consistent enough scorer to make the AS game.

[rascal]

Are those Timmy’s baggy clothes? :lol

I think he’s going to be a mainstay at AS. Sochan has character and charm, and of course the hair, on top of posting better numbers every game. He’ll be a top 3 of his class imo, with his ability to facilitate, defend the best players and score when his number is called, the best 2way in his class eventually.

Can't stand the stupid hair. Rodman immitator Just play the game without that crap.

[spurraider21]

Can't stand the stupid hair. Rodman immitator Just play the game without that crap.
Stop being such a miserable person

[playblair]

Stop being such a miserable person
cant belive im agreeing with spurraider21 rascal is a fuccboi..........

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVJ7CzZ3GaE

[Sugus]

Can't stand the stupid hair. Rodman immitator Just play the game without that crap.

:lol you seem weirdly invested in another dude's appearance. What's the issue if he wants to pay homage to Rodman? Or just dye his head for whatever reason?

You need a better outlet for these shit feelings, man. Talk to someone.

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVJ7CzZ3GaE

his confidence from the beginning of the season vs now is night and day. Sochan now has the full confidence in scoring, making plays to score, always attacking. He still does mistakes but I like that he’s pushing the limits on what he can and cannot do.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3aralb_5w

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7sti3K4pQ

[timtonymanu]

Special damn player. Not some scrub like Walmart Luka and the Flasher were. This guy was worth the hype since the beginning.

[Dejounte]

a summer of practicing with ballhog gloves would do wonders for Jeremy.

but seriously,

If somehow he could spend a few days with Nephew, that would be the perfect mentorship for this young man. Right now his shot profile looks like a replica of Nephews. Don’t know many players in the NBA right now who are both agile and shoots from the post the way Jeremy does.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

That's what he needs to work on this offseason.

https://sun9-80.userapi.com/impg/k4lxADM3iRmHkadYImVgH5rimrI9NOTnRZSXjg/gZrK3xwR3gA.jpg?size=737x385&quality=96&sign=fc13d20b3d5655de80ce784d8012848e&type=album

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?TeamID=1610612759&dir=D&sort=DRIVES

[Dejounte]

That's what he needs to work on this offseason.

https://sun9-80.userapi.com/impg/k4lxADM3iRmHkadYImVgH5rimrI9NOTnRZSXjg/gZrK3xwR3gA.jpg?size=737x385&quality=96&sign=fc13d20b3d5655de80ce784d8012848e&type=album

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?TeamID=1610612759&dir=D&sort=DRIVES

What are you pointing out here? Because if it’s the number of drives per game, that ain’t it. He has one of the highest ratios for drives to fga’s per game. He’s driving plenty. You’re basically just saying he needs more touches, not drives.

[Maddog]

his confidence from the beginning of the season vs now is night and day. Sochan now has the full confidence in scoring, making plays to score, always attacking. He still does mistakes but I like that he’s pushing the limits on what he can and cannot do.


a summer of practicing with ballhog gloves would do wonders for Jeremy.

but seriously,

If somehow he could spend a few days with Nephew, that would be the perfect mentorship for this young man. Right now his shot profile looks like a replica of Nephews. Don’t know many players in the NBA right now who are both agile and shoots from the post the way Jeremy does.

And he's still 2.5 months away from turning 20
He keeps changing from the player I think he is. I can't remember a player improving so much in season.

I think it was Jeff McDonald who jokingly wondered if he could qualify for most improved player....

[Vince Carter's ankle]

What are you pointing out here? Because if it’s the number of drives per game, that ain’t it. He has one of the highest ratios for drives to fga’s per game. He’s driving plenty. You’re basically just saying he needs more touches, not drives.
I mean that he needs to improve fg% on drives. For example, against the Pacers, he missed several of these shots..

[KingKev]

Sochan has blown away my expectations on the offensive end.

I hate when Spurs fan use the cliche have “him work with Tim, Tony, Manu, Chip, show him Kobe tapes” etc etc but I’d love to see him spend a summer training with an elite wing defender like Bruce Bowen

[exstatic]

Sochan has blown away my expectations on the offensive end.

I hate when Spurs fan use the cliche have “him work with Tim, Tony, Manu, Chip, show him Kobe tapes” etc etc but I’d love to see him spend a summer training with an elite wing defender like Bruce Bowen

I like the concept, but the things Bowen was allowed to do are no longer legal. He was elite at fighting through screens, which is pretty much an automatic foul now.

[slick'81]

I like the concept, but the things Bowen was allowed to do are no longer legal. He was elite at fighting through screens, which is pretty much an automatic foul now.


not to mention grabbing,holding,kicking and punching

[John B]

Sochan has blown away my expectations on the offensive end.

I hate when Spurs fan use the cliche have “him work with Tim, Tony, Manu, Chip, show him Kobe tapes” etc etc but I’d love to see him spend a summer training with an elite wing defender like Bruce Bowen

Or maybe Sean can show him some Ninja moves? How about Avery with how to play General? :lmao

[R. DeMurre]

So nice to see Sochan improving by leaps and bounds as the year progresses. He's further along at this point than I thought he'd be. Despite playing about 500 fewer minutes than KJ, he has 53 dunks on the season to KJ's 21, which shows his level of aggression and special ability to find seams. Poeltl only has 18 on the season.

[John B]

So nice to see Sochan improving by leaps and bounds as the year progresses. He's further along at this point than I thought he'd be. Despite playing about 500 fewer minutes than KJ, he has 53 dunks on the season to KJ's 21, which shows his level of aggression and special ability to find seams. Poeltl only has 18 on the season.

But also remember Keldon is now playing SF and has improved on his 3pt shooting vs going straight to the basket. I really can’t question Keldon’s aggressiveness and motor. I do agree that Sochan is getting confident every game and it shows.

[The Truth #6]

Can Bowen teach Jeremy his flying karate kick he did versus Wally Sczerbiak?

[KingKev]

I like the concept, but the things Bowen was allowed to do are no longer legal. He was elite at fighting through screens, which is pretty much an automatic foul now.

Yeah some of Bowen’s defense/antics has become antiquated like the hand checking and hard close outs but Bowen had the ability to lock down 1-4 and it wasn’t just due to physicality. Sochan has the archetype to also become a lockdown defender from 1-4 and has a similar cheekiness to his game.

[rascal]

Yeah some of Bowen’s defense/antics has become antiquated like the hand checking and hard close outs but Bowen had the ability to lock down 1-4 and it wasn’t just due to physicality. Sochan has the archetype to also become a lockdown defender from 1-4 and has a similar cheekiness to his game.

Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.

[Atl Spur]

Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.

What was his efficiency though?

[exstatic]

Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.

Kobe scored 26 points on like 12 FGA against most defenders. His 26 would come on like 20 shots against Bowen, and he focused so much on scoring, that he forgot about his teammates.

[ambchang]

Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.

On 42.6% FG%, 27.8% 3PT%, 3.7 asts, and 3.6 TO. Numbers all worse than his career average. And that is taking into account that Kobe played against Bowen during his absolute prime, given that Bowen retired 2009.

[KingKev]

On 42.6% FG%, 27.8% 3PT%, 3.7 asts, and 3.6 TO. Numbers all worse than his career average. And that is taking into account that Kobe played against Bowen during his absolute prime, given that Bowen retired 2009.

Nailed it. Absolute prime Kobe. Not to mention Bowen gave him work on the other side of the floor a few nights between his corner 3’s and easy buckets from wicked defense.

Sochan has the tools to become an elite defender.

[XDT76]

But also remember Keldon is now playing SF and has improved on his 3pt shooting vs going straight to the basket. I really can’t question Keldon’s aggressiveness and motor. I do agree that Sochan is getting confident every game and it shows.

His 3pt shooting has improved? I have an impression his 3pt shooting is currently terrible and has been so for an extended period.

[KingKev]

His 3pt shooting has improved? I have an impression his 3pt shooting is currently terrible and has been so for an extended period.

His 3ball has fallen off a cliff on higher volume. John B I thought asians were good at mafffs?!?

[rascal]

Kobe scored 26 points on like 12 FGA against most defenders. His 26 would come on like 20 shots against Bowen, and he focused so much on scoring, that he forgot about his teammates.

No way, his FG% was 2.1% off his average against Bowen during the regular season 42.6% to career average 44.7%.

But Bryant scored 28.6 pts a game against Bowen and shot 2.1% better in the playoffs against Bowen 46.8% than his career average of 44.7%. And the Lakers won 14 games in the 22 games in the playoffs Kobe vs Bowen.

[ambchang]

No way, his FG% was 2.1% off his average against Bowen during the regular season 42.6% to career average 44.7%.

But Bryant scored 28.6 pts a game against Bowen and shot 2.1% better in the playoffs against Bowen 46.8% than his career average of 44.7%. And the Lakers won 14 games in the 22 games in the playoffs Kobe vs Bowen.

Compare it with his prime. His first few years and last few years, when he did not play against Bowen, absolutely dragged down his numbers.

[ace3g]

Sochan going to get a lot of shots tomorrow.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqUvUn8XgAETsjj?format=png&name=large

[spursparker9]

How nice if he would have played in the big 3 era

[John B]

His 3pt shooting has improved? I have an impression his 3pt shooting is currently terrible and has been so for an extended period.

I agree that Keldon’s 3pt shooting has plummeted lately, but he was close to 40% last year from 32% the year before. And he was shooting his 3pt in high 40% at the start of the season. The Spurs are not playing good basketball right now for obvious “tanking”, with rookies, G-Leaguers and mysterios injuries. Keldon forcing his shots as primary scorer, not getting good shots. I wouldn’t read too much of it.

[lefty20]

I agree that Keldon’s 3pt shooting has plummeted lately, but he was close to 40% last year from 32% the year before. And he was shooting his 3pt in high 40% at the start of the season. The Spurs are not playing good basketball right now for obvious “tanking”, with rookies, G-Leaguers and mysterios injuries. Keldon forcing his shots as primary scorer, not getting good shots. I wouldn’t read too much of it.

Idk bro, I'm still a little worried. He's been putting up come bad bricks, even when he's wide open.

[BackHome]

He is scoring more because Pop has given him the Green Light which is good because only way to get better is to keep shooting in practice and games. I would give Sochan and Branham the Green Light on shooting even when they have a bad night keep shooting and hope they improve there percentages for next season

[John B]

Sochan going to get a lot of shots tomorrow.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqUvUn8XgAETsjj?format=png&name=large

Thanks for posting. Pop had two wins and getting hate mails :lol. We’re back to tanking bitches :ihit

[XDT76]

Thanks for posting. Pop had two wins and getting hate mails :lol. We’re back to tanking bitches :ihit

Why are reporting on Roby? Isn't he already off the team?

Edit: Sorry John, doesn't mean to direct this to you.

[John B]

Why are reporting on Roby? Isn't he already off the team?

Edit: Sorry John, doesn't mean to direct this to you.

No worries. Any thread on the 6’11” 2nd year C Sandro Mamukelasvili? His contract is only for this season, and already Spurs have Bassey and Barlow in the pipeline. He doubt he stays after this year.