Evolution...?

[xmas1997]

It's because people like spurraider21 are deep down afraid they may be wrong supporting Darwin so they try and belittle anyone else who doesn't support Darwin to help themselves feel better about the wrong choice they made.


It's like that one kid in elementary school cafeteria that is eating a peanut butter sandwich and is watching you eat a Spam sandwich he's very curious about the taste of Spam , or maybe he's secretly jealous his parents can't afford Spam so he so not feel inferior he begins to taunt you bay making comments like.

"you really know what mat they use in Spam?"

"hey did you hear eating Spam makes you Gay?"

"why can't you eat peanut butter like the rest of us you think your special?"

"do you even know where Spam came from"

" I bet your gonna say some bearded man in sky made the Spam"

"And it only took 6 days to make"

you see the early pattern forming with the BiEvolutionist?

?


:lmao

And also there begins the roots to the early annoying atheist who can't leave well enough alone and let others believe or disbelieve as they want.

[spurraider21]

Why does anyone care what others think about religion/evolution? Especially knowing they can't prove their stance on the matter. It all comes down to what ???? you want to attach yourself to.

So many try to sell their beliefs when it comes to this, beliefs with no "facts" backing it.
seriously. why would anybody care enough to start a thread on it... like whoever started this one.

hmmmmmmmmm....

[spurraider21]

It's because people like spurraider21 are deep down afraid they may be wrong supporting Darwin so they try and belittle anyone else who doesn't support Darwin to help themselves feel better about the wrong choice they made.


It's like that one kid in elementary school cafeteria that is eating a peanut butter sandwich and is watching you eat a Spam sandwich he's very curious about the taste of Spam , or maybe he's secretly jealous his parents can't afford Spam so not to feel inferior he begins to taunt you bay making comments like.

"you really know what mat they use in Spam?"

"hey did you hear eating Spam makes you Gay?"

"why can't you eat peanut butter like the rest of us you think your special?"

"do you even know where Spam came from"

" I bet your gonna say some bearded man in sky made the Spam"

"And it only took 6 days to make"

you see the early pattern forming with the BiEvolutionist?

The truth is if Darwin knew about Spam back then he would be thinking of ways to eat one without anyone seeing him.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/evolution-debunked339_zps2d679db9.jpg
and he said... let there be light


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlBifX0H3yg

[baseline bum]

and he said... let there be light


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlBifX0H3yg

:cry mouse is wrapped up like a douche :cry

[spurraider21]

so nobody read the article i posted? thought it was worth a laugh

[mouse]

:lmao

And also there begins the roots to the early annoying atheist who can't leave well enough alone and let others believe or disbelieve as they want.

Actually many Atheists don't support Darwin. They just don't support the Bible either.

[mouse]

:cry mouse is wrapped up like a douche :cry

Waiting another a year for your ex wife to use me again.

(rim shot)

[mouse]

I never gave a rats ass who or what others believe in I only hate when lies are printed as facts and Darwin's Evolution has more lies than a Spokes person for GM airbag division.

Keep both Religious out of the classroom but don't ignore they exist.

[spurraider21]

I never gave a rats ass who or what others believe in I only hate when lies are printed as facts and Darwin's Evolution has more lies than a Spokes person for GM airbag division.

Keep both Religious out of the classroom but don't ignore they exist.
did dinosaurs and humans coexist?

[mouse]

did dinosaurs and humans coexist?

As just friends or sexually?

[spurraider21]

As just friends or sexually?
were they alive at the same time?

[mouse]

They had to be if man "Evolved" from ape. Unless your saying Apes were not around back then,in that case the answer is still "yes" since snails were around back then also.

It's your bullshit biology books that talk about how man oozed out of a warm pool of liquid and after being a snail it became a frog then a RatCoon then a goat then Ape and then Man until finally an Ass Hole.


I think you know the answer you just want to have "scoreboard" on someone in a public debate not realizing the debate ended years ago with DNA.

But for the sake of others I play along in hopes someone else may learn a thing or two.

[spurraider21]

why is it that you struggle so much with yes or no questions? did human beings and dinosaurs roam the earth simultaneously?

[spurraider21]

not realizing the debate ended years ago with DNA.
i don't think you realize that DNA did nothing but strengthen the case for evolution. the genetic record is arguably more convincing than the fossil record

[mouse]

why is it that you struggle so much with yes or no questions? did human beings and dinosaurs roam the earth simultaneously?

Don't confuse struggle with having to repeat myself everytime some new misinformed kid on the block that just had his first red bull enters the Club.

Do the research the Evolution debate already ended your team lost. it's time to move on.... maybe take up sky Diving just make sure you don't pray when your shoot doesn't open that could show you believe in creator or designer of some sort.

Bottom line if you don't have the skills to search the 100s of Evolution debate topics to read my replies then your not really interested in real answers your still after that "gotcha " pennant you need to hang on your online wall.

or maybe your just slow, in any case I don't have the energy right now to start over.


There are many times "new" discoveries have been made that maybe shed light on how we got here and it has been silenced if it proves Evolution wrong.

But as soon as something new that comes around that supports Evolution its head line news.

http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/11/11/1415720650017/9de1f048-08c4-4463-a8ea-a435edc7e7be-620x372.jpeg




There is convincing evidence that comets played a key role in the evolution of the planets, because cometary impacts are known to have been much more common in the early Solar System than today. Comets, for example, probably brought much of the water in today's oceans. They could even have provided the complex organic molecules that may have played a crucial role in the evolution of life on Earth.


and the Bullshit ends up in your child's texts book where the Brain washing begins if not at home already.

[mouse]

i don't think you realize that DNA did nothing but strengthen the case for evolution.

So are you saying I am part Banana?

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/ca/47/16/ca4716e0894ff0975a48addd2b878bc9.jpg

How does DNA Evolve?

show me the part man part banana fossils .



the genetic record is arguably more convincing than the fossil record


Then you know DNA didn't evolve the code is a sign of a design.

sorry brah you can't have it both ways when you pull out the DNA card,

[spurraider21]

I asked you if dinosaurs and humans coexisted and you posted a picture of a comet as part of your response. Interesting way to dodge the question

[spurraider21]

So are you saying I am part Banana?

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/ca/47/16/ca4716e0894ff0975a48addd2b878bc9.jpg

How does DNA Evolve?

show me the part man part banana fossils .
Read a book on the issue.

If my misunderstanding was as blatant as yours id be skeptical too


Then you know DNA didn't evolve the code is a sign of a design.
This sentence literally doesn't make sense. I don't understand what you are getting at. Correct the grammar so I at least know what you are saying

[Avante]

Is there really a God.....nobody knows.

Did this all come about from a BIG BAND......nobody knows.

So it all comes down to what the individual needs for them.

We do have this fact......nobody will ever change anyones mind on an internet messageboard.

[ChumpDumper]

Is there really a God.....nobody knows.

Did this all come about from a BIG BAND......nobody knows.

So it all comes down to what the individual needs for them.

We do have this fact......nobody will ever change anyones mind on an internet messageboard.
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ASI/musi212/emily/images/millerband.jpg

[spurraider21]

Do you realize that what you want deep down has no bearing on what actually is?

[spurraider21]

Avante if you are so convinced by that mentality why did you start this thread and mock evolution while calling its supporters dummies

[mouse]

I asked you if dinosaurs and humans coexisted

And I introduced you to Google.


and you posted a picture of a comet as part of your response.

and it went over your misguided head,


Interesting way to dodge the question

welcome to the www

[mouse]

Avante if you are so convinced by that mentality why did you start this thread and mock evolution while calling its supporters dummies

For someone who likes to ask questions you seem to avoid the answers given.

[spurraider21]

And I introduced you to Google.
google can't tell me what your thoughts are. do you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

[mouse]

google can't tell me what your thoughts are. do you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

Then say you want "my Thoughts" not "answers" to your questions.

you come across as someone who just graduated from high school and you want to know if you should get a job or go to college to end up at WalMart.

[mouse]

There are fossils that show a Human foot print with a Dinosaur footprint on top of it the fossil was not accepted by Science.

[Aztecfan03]

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ASI/musi212/emily/images/millerband.jpg

k. that was funny.

[spurraider21]

Then say you want "my Thoughts" not "answers" to your questions.

you come across as someone who just graduated from high school and you want to know if you should get a job or go to college to end up at WalMart.


There are fossils that show a Human foot print with a Dinosaur footprint on top of it the fossil was not accepted by Science.
Ok i'll ask again. Do you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

[RandomGuy]

Avante if you are so convinced by that mentality why did you start this thread and mock evolution while calling its supporters dummies

Avante wants a thread that pumps up his ego, and considerations of what is true or not are completely secondary, or simply not a priority at all.

I would have thought that was obvious about the third time I gave him the evidence he said didn't exist, and he ignored it.

[mouse]

Texas has some fascinating fossil footprints. This one shows a dinosaur foot print, over-layed by a human footprint. Now, if the dinosaur footprint came 62 million years before the human footprint, then the dinosaur footprint would have washed away, or eroded away, or dried up and blew away, or hardened into a rock-like fossil that would not then accept the impression of another foot on top of it. However, none of this happened. What this fossil shows is a dinosaur footprint that was made minutes or hours before a human stepped on the same piece of dirt, not 62 million years before.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/dinosaur-human-footprints_zps03696eab.jpg

[spurraider21]

So do you think dinosaurs and humans coexisted yes or no

[Avante]

Avante if you are so convinced by that mentality why did you start this thread and mock evolution while calling its supporters dummies

I have a hard time believing anyone can't see all the loop holes we've found in evolution.

My wife has a sister who lives on a ranch in Arkansas. They own a pgymy horse, at full grown it's 19 inchs high. Just saw a picture of it. Ok how did this pgymy horse come about? It evolved from what?

[spurraider21]

I have a hard time believing anyone can't see all the loop holes we've found in evolution.

My wife has a sister who lives on a ranch in Arkansas. They own a pgymy horse, at full grown it's 19 inchs high. Just saw a picture of it. Ok how did this pgymy horse come about? It evolved from what?
we've seen these two come from common ancestors. is it really that difficult to believe that the same sorts of genetic variation we've seen from wolves to dogs in no more than 20,000 years (which is actually a VERY VERY short period of time in the scheme of things) can apply to other species?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Big_and_little_dog.jpg

[Avante]

we've seen these two come from common ancestors. is it really that difficult to believe that the same sorts of genetic variation we've seen from wolves to dogs in no more than 20,000 years (which is actually a VERY VERY short period of time in the scheme of things) can apply to other species?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Big_and_little_dog.jpg

But we have to go back to the very beginnings of it all...right? Back to when creatures from the sea came out of the abyss onto dried land.....right? It all started there....right?

[spurraider21]

Texas has some fascinating fossil footprints. This one shows a dinosaur foot print, over-layed by a human footprint. Now, if the dinosaur footprint came 62 million years before the human footprint, then the dinosaur footprint would have washed away, or eroded away, or dried up and blew away, or hardened into a rock-like fossil that would not then accept the impression of another foot on top of it. However, none of this happened. What this fossil shows is a dinosaur footprint that was made minutes or hours before a human stepped on the same piece of dirt, not 62 million years before.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/dinosaur-human-footprints_zps03696eab.jpg
:lmao can you try researching even a little before making these claims?

http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/tsite.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paluxy_River

http://ncse.com/cej/2/4/paluxy-man-creationist-piltdown

[spurraider21]

But we have to go back to the very beginnings of it all...right? Back to when creatures from the sea came out of the abyss onto dried land.....right? It all started there....right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_horse

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Equine_evolution.jpg/1920px-Equine_evolution.jpg

[spurraider21]

wow, just look at all those recovered fossils and skeletons of species that don't currently roam the earth! either those species existed before, or they were planted to "test our faith" :lol

[Avante]

I'll try again...

So there stands these little sea creatures staring at a jungle, something totally new to them, now what? Were they vegatarians?

[spurraider21]

I'll try again...

So there stands these little sea creatures staring at a jungle, something totally new to them, now what? Were they vegatarians?
it would take an awfully long time if you want to cover billions of years of genetic variation leading us to this point.

if you want that information, head to a public library and read up on it, instead of asking somebody on a forum

[ChumpDumper]

I'll try again...

So there stands these little sea creatures staring at a jungle, something totally new to them, now what? Were they vegatarians?Sure. They could be vegetarians. What would exclude that possibility to you?

[Avante]

it would take an awfully long time if you want to cover billions of years of genetic variation leading us to this point.

if you want that information, head to a public library and read up on it, instead of asking somebody on a forum

The thing is this....

How in the hell did a couple/few/whatever little sea creatures ever survive on land long enought to evolve into anything? What did they eat? What they no longer needed salt water? How did they know what to eat? How'd they live?

Actually think about it...ok? It simply makes no sense at all.

So these little seas things do manage to survive, how in the hell do we get the spider, the flea, the crow, the elephant, the sparrow, the frog etc etc etc....from these sea things? Come on man only an idiot would buy that silly bullshit.

You stick a herd of goats out in a pasture with enought food to last forever, what in a billion years they are all something other than a goat......hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

The thing is this....

How in the hell did a couple/few/whatever little sea creatures ever survive on land long enought to evolve into anything? What did they eat? What they no longer needed salt water? How did they know what to eat? How'd they live?

Actually think about...ok? It simply makes no sense at all.http://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

[spurraider21]

The thing is this....

How in the hell did a couple/few/whatever little sea creatures ever survive on land long enought to evolve into anything? What did they eat? What they no longer needed salt water? How did they know what to eat? How'd they live?

Actually think abou it...ok? It simply makes no sense at all.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238753

[Avante]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238753

I'm not reading shit other than you dropping the crap and explaining to me how in the hell that makes any sense.

Hey shorty, there stand/sit four little sea things......now what? Why did they leave the ocean?

[spurraider21]

I'm not reading shit other than you dropping the crap and explaining to me how in the hell that makes any sense.

Hey shorty, there stand/sit four little sea things......now what? Why did they leave the ocean?
so you are asking about animals who left the sea to come to land...

and then tell me you wont read a short article about animals from the sea who live on land


so basically this... http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/im-not-listening-stephen-colbert-gif.gif

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not reading shit Ain't that the truth?

[Avante]

so you are asking about animals who left the sea to come to land...

and then tell me you wont read a short article about animals from the sea who live on land


so basically this... http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/im-not-listening-stephen-colbert-gif.gif

Don't you think if I wanted to Google stuff about this I would? I want you to explain in your words why you think these little sea creatures survived on land. This is a discussion forum little guy...ok? So discuss.

So there they are, a gang of sea creatures on land for the first time, ok man what happened next?

[ChumpDumper]

Don't you think if I wanted to Google stuff about this I would? I want you to explain in your words why you think these little sea creatures survived on land. This is a discussion forum little guy...ok? So discuss.http://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

[Avante]

Who here has ever seen anything crawl out of the sea and become a land dweller?

[spurraider21]

Who here has ever seen anything crawl out of the sea and become a land dweller?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238753

[Avante]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238753

Yep...

But just how ancient fish made this shift to terrestrial life still remains largely a mystery.

[spurraider21]

Yep...

But just how ancient fish made this shift to terrestrial life still remains largely a mystery.
you don't think its relevant at all that we have proof that fish could transition to land?

[ChumpDumper]

Who here has ever seen anything crawl out of the sea and become a land dweller?
http://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

[Avante]

How obvious is it that I 'm not wasting anymore time on this Chump freak? Who out there would still follow me around?

Wow, not an once of self respect at all.

[ChumpDumper]

How obvious is it that I 'm not wasting anymore time on this Chump freak? Who out there would still follow me around?

Wow, not an once of self respect at all.http://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

[Avante]

Like talking to yourself, the guy is totally out there. Sad to watch, really.

No thought at all about.."I bet I look pathetic following everyone around...huh?"

Sad

[ChumpDumper]

Like talking to yourself, the guy is totally out there. Sad to watch, really.

No thought at all about.."I bet I look pathetic following everyone around...huh?"

Sadhttp://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

[Avante]

Ok...it's an early morining a little cold in the air when out of the abyss we see a little creature come crawling onto dry land.

First off...why? Second off.....wouldn't we need a male and a female? Third off....what did "it" eat?

Actually think about this, don't just..."Google this"...ok?

What was the motivation for these sea things to leave the ocean....well? What did they eat....well? How does anything that started off in an ocean ever evolve into.....a bird?

[Avante]

http://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

Couldn't care less about how fucked up you look...huh? I pity ya ya little freak.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok...it's an early morining a little cold in the air when out of the abyss we see a little creature come crawling onto dry land.

First off...why? Second off.....wouldn't we need a male and a female? Third off....what did "it" eat?

Actually think about this, don't just..."Google this"...ok?

What was the motivation for these sea things to leave the ocean....well? What did they eat....well? How does anything that started off in an ocean ever evolve into.....a bird?
http://media1.giphy.com/media/Kyr8OnKRKmDbG/200.gif

[Avante]

Here we have the perfect example of what is really wrong with this place. Look at this guy, is this immature/stupid or what? And, he is allowed to get away with this........wow~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

you don't think its relevant at all that we have proof that fish could transition to land?

How many of those fish became strickly land dwellers?

So a male and a female of the same whatever left the ocean together to go live on the land......why? What was the logic in having to evolve into anything, if...they were making it just fine as is?

Actually look at it....ok? So they found the right diet...right? It just happened to be right there on the beach they came out on.....right? The weather was perfect....right?

Come on man, are you really this gullible?

While Googling this stuff....

"It's like putting together a really big puzzle with only a quarter of the pieces and trying to figure it all out," Conrad told LiveScience. "You find tantalizing tidbits that lead you in one direction and others that send you in the other direction."

[mouse]

The artist that did the painting for the cover of the magazine took the liberty to paint a walking ape like humanoid with ape like feet showing the big toe of the footprint extending out to the side based purely on imagination and not science. This is the length people will go to substantiate the theory of evolution.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/571LaetoliFootprints_NG_zps9d569465.gif

[spurraider21]

The artist that did the painting for the cover of the magazine took the liberty to paint a walking ape like humanoid with ape like feet showing the big toe of the footprint extending out to the side based purely on imagination and not science. This is the length people will go to substantiate the theory of evolution.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/571LaetoliFootprints_NG_zps9d569465.gif
do you think that humans and dinosaurs coexisted? i'll just keep asking this until you answer it

[spurraider21]

How many of those fish became strickly land dwellers?

So a male and a female of the same whatever left the ocean together to go live on the land......why? What was the logic in having to evolve into anything, if...they were making it just fine as is?

Actually look at it....ok? So they found the right diet...right? It just happened to be right there on the beach they came out on.....right? The weather was perfect....right?

Come on man, are you really this gullible?

While Googling this stuff....

"It's like putting together a really big puzzle with only a quarter of the pieces and trying to figure it all out," Conrad told LiveScience. "You find tantalizing tidbits that lead you in one direction and others that send you in the other direction."
if the conditions weren't right, they probably wouldn't have survived for long, and animal life on land wouldn't have started then. life would still go on in the sea. there is no law that says "you MUST have life on land."

as for what would be the advantage of getting out of the water and onto land? seems self explanatory to me. there were no predators. no competition for available food sources.

and its not like the earth was always perfect for life. before plants there wasn't enough oxygen for animals as we know it to survive. for over a billion years the conditions were such that no life was possible on earth.

[Avante]

As you totally ignore what I;m asking you.

[mouse]

tsWgDdesXXs

[spurraider21]

As you totally ignore what I;m asking you.
you asked why they would go on land. i answered it.

you asked about how the conditions were right at the same. i acknowledged it and explained why it doesnt really matter that it all worked out. it didn't have to. it just did

[Avante]

if the conditions weren't right, they probably wouldn't have survived for long, and animal life on land wouldn't have started then. life would still go on in the sea. there is no law that says "you MUST have life on land."

as for what would be the advantage of getting out of the water and onto land? seems self explanatory to me. there were no predators. no competition for available food sources.

Do you honestly believe these little fishy things actually weighed their options, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! They knew about the lack of predators and the food supply.......come on man.

[mouse]

G1RUhkgqjug

[spurraider21]

tsWgDdesXXs
this video argues for creationism

Mouse do you believe in creationism?

[spurraider21]

Do you honestly believe these little fishy things actually weighed their options, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! They knew about the lack of predators and the food supply.......come on man.
i never said that. animals behave unpredictably all the time. lemmings run themselves off cliffs.

lets say out of all those little fishy things, 75% of them stayed in the water, 25% of them ventured onto land. onto land, where there were no predators, and no competition for food. do you think those 25% survived? given that they could live on land and had no predators at the time? probably. if they survived, they reproduced. their spawn lived their entire life on land. again, with no predators, no competition. they reproduced again. and again. and again.

if you have successful conditions, you are more likely to reproduce

[Avante]

tsWgDdesXXs

I;ve seen that before and it does like so many other similiar videos shits all over evolution.

[mouse]

8tyVVlRw6hU

[mouse]

this video argues for creationism

Mouse do you believe in creationism?

why you insist on people having to repeat themselves?

[Avante]

i never said that. animals behave unpredictably all the time. lemmings run themselves off cliffs.

lets say out of all those little fishy things, 75% of them stayed in the water, 25% of them ventured onto land. onto land, where there were no predators, and no competition for food. do you think those 25% survived? given that they could live on land and had no predators at the time? probably. if they survived, they reproduced. their spawn lived their entire life on land. again, with no predators, no competition. they reproduced again. and again. and again.

if you have successful conditions, you are more likely to reproduce

I don't see anything that came out of....salt water...living very long on land. The chances of them finding the right diet seems unrealistic. The chances of them fighting off disease, not good. The odds of the right % of males/females ending up on the same beach at the same time....not good.

I don't believe we came from the sea at all, and I won't be changing my mind. It's simply too damn stupid....ok?

[spurraider21]

G1RUhkgqjug
thank you for giving us examples of science adapting and correcting itself

also, the brontosaurus (actually called apatosaurus) isn't "debunked" lol. there have been many fossils discovered of them, not just one like the video tries to claim

the statement that peppered moths do not sit on tree trunks is completely false. it is true that they used dead moths to take the pictures, but that is because of the unlikelihood of having two distinctly colored moths being found at the same time on the same tree trunk.

the book "Melanism: Evolution in Action" has pictures of living moths resting on tree trunks

[spurraider21]

I won't be changing my mind.
i'm aware of this. so why do you keep asking for proof? it seems like a complete waste of time. it basically goes like this in an endless cycle

1) you ask for proof
2) i give proof
3) you say "I'm not going to read that"
4) i give more proof
5) you throw your hands up and say "i dont believe that and i never will"

some times passes

1) you ask for proof
2) i give proof

etc, and over and over. you like to start the argument, and everytime it heats up, you give up and say "yeah well, im not changing my mind anyway"

so why bring it up? why start this thread?

[spurraider21]

why you insist on people having to repeat themselves?
you never answer questions. its impossible to repeat what you never said.

you like to say you aren't creationist, or a believer in "intelligent design" but rather, "alternative design" and yet all the videos you keep posting promote creationism. however, in our discussions, you said you don't claim a the existence of a designer or creator, which by definition confirms you as an atheist anyway. but you keep posting creationist links despite clearly being an atheist

i've asked you many times if you think dinosaurs and humans coexisted. you still haven't answered it

[Avante]

i'm aware of this. so why do you keep asking for proof? it seems like a complete waste of time. it basically goes like this in an endless cycle

1) you ask for proof
2) i give proof
3) you say "I'm not going to read that"
4) i give more proof
5) you throw your hands up and say "i dont believe that and i never will"

some times passes

1) you ask for proof
2) i give proof

etc, and over and over. you like to start the argument, and everytime it heats up, you give up and say "yeah well, im not changing my mind anyway"

so why bring it up? why start this thread?

So you have...proof...that yes we did come from little sea creatures? So it's now...the fact of evolution...right? So you proved that yes we all came from the sea....right?

So how can anyone fight your...facts...right?

So now that you....proved....that Darwin/evolutionists are right, I'm now on your side. How can I argue against all your....proof...?

Wait until all those who believe in God read about how ....you...proved evolution.

[spurraider21]

So you have...proof...that yes we did come from little sea creatures? So it's now...the fact of evolution...right? So you proved that yes we all came frtom the sea....right?

So how can anyone fight your...facts...right?

So now that you....proved....that Darwin/evolutionaists are right, I;m now on your side. How can I argue against all your....proof...?
there is evidence that confirms that life in the sea predates life on land...
there is evidence that life can move from sea to land...
there is evidence in the fossil and genetic record that species change over time...

among many others. what would be a logical conclusion from that series of evidence?

[Avante]

there is evidence that confirms that life in the sea predates life on land...
there is evidence that life can move from sea to land...
there is evidence in the fossil and genetic record that species change over time...

among many others. what would be a logical conclusion from that series of evidence?

There is no God and you are 100% right, we all evolved from fish.

Wait until Judy and her mom hear this and they share it with the church.

[spurraider21]

There is no God and you are 100% right, we all evolved from fish.

Wait until Judy and her mom hear this and they share it with the church.
i never made the claim that there is no god

atheism and theism is an entirely different discussion. i think you've made this mistake about a dozen times by now

[Avante]

i never made the claim that there is no god

atheism and theism is an entirely different discussion. i think you've made this mistake about a dozen times by now

So there is a God and He needed to go with the fish evolving thing....right? You;d think He'd do things a little differently, huh?

What does the Bible say about evolving fish?

[mouse]

there is evidence in the fossil record that species change over time...


please show a fossil that proves another creature evolved from the mud fish.

[spurraider21]

So there is a God and He needed to go with the fish evolving thing....right? You;d think He'd do things a little differently, huh?

What does the Bible say about evolving fish?
lets just be clear here.

a) i'm not a believer in God
b) that is VERY different than me claiming "god doesn't exist"
c) even of there was a god, its not necessarily referring to the one the bible talks about

[spurraider21]

please show a fossil that proves another creature evolved from the mud fish.
the mud fish that we see today are not necessarily the ancestors. they are an example of life that can adapt from sea to land and be successful

[mouse]

you never answer questions. its impossible to repeat what you never said.


your lack of reading skills is why I avoid debating posters like yourself.

I told you I have answered every question there is about this topic.

[spurraider21]

your lack of reading skills is why I avoid debating posters like yourself.

I told you I have answered every question there is about this topic.
you have already admitted to being an atheist (you made it clear you dont claim a the existence of a creator/designer), but you keep posting creationist videos. i'm just confused by the mixed signals

you have not answered if you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted

[mouse]

the mud fish that we see today are not necessarily the ancestors. they are an example of life that can adapt from sea to land and be successful

Then show me any fossil that shows any creature that evolved from any fish.

[spurraider21]

Then show me any fossil that shows any creature that evolved from any fish.
look up fossils of acanthostega and ichthyostega

[mouse]

you have already admitted to being an atheist (you made it clear you dont claim a the existence of a creator/designer), but you keep posting creationist videos. i'm just confused by the mixed signal

I post videos that debunk the lies of Darwin I don't care if the video was produced by a Muslim or devil worshiper facts are facts no matter the source.

[Blake]

Why are you guys so hell bent against accepting evolution?

[spurraider21]

I post videos that debunk the lies of Darwin I don't care if the video was produced by a Muslim or devil worshiper facts are facts no matter the source.
unless the source is scientific and peer reviewed. a freelance youtube video is factual to you, yet peer reviewed work isn't.

in any event, as i outlined earlier, most of the "facts" in those videos are demonstrate hilarious level of misunderstanding of what they are talking about. i'm not an evolutionary biologist but even i was able to find glaring holes in virtually every argument they made

:lol peppered moths dont rest on trees
:lol yes they do

[spurraider21]

Why are you guys so hell bent against accepting evolution?
because evolution doesn't give avante a warm, fuzzy, and comforting feeling

also Judy forbids that sort of talk in the house

mouse is a different case. he's an atheist, but is hell bent on finding random youtube videos with ominous music that "debunks" evolution. i think he failed science classes in his youth and is just upset about it

[Avante]

lets just be clear here.

a) i'm not a believer in God
b) that is VERY different than me claiming "god doesn't exist"
c) even of there was a god, its not necessarily referring to the one the bible talks about

Let's do get something clear...

Anyone who prefers a life without some....God...is a total and complete fool...ok? A complete moron....ok?

Now that we cleared that up, have a nice Christmas.

[spurraider21]

Let's do get something clear...

Anyone who prefers a life without some....God...is a total and complete fool...ok? A complete moron....ok?

Now that we cleared that up, have a nice Christmas.
its not a matter of what i prefer. i would surely prefer an afterlife, that would be great. especially if it was paradise.

i also prefer to be a 7 time lottery winner. i just see no reason to believe in either. no evidence

merry christmas to you as well

[Blake]

Let's do get something clear...

Anyone who prefers a life without some....God...is a total and complete fool...ok? A complete moron....ok?

Now that we cleared that up, have a nice Christmas.

You said you made up the god you pray to.

But we're the fools?

Lol

[mouse]

look up fossils of acanthostega and ichthyostega


First of all, Kenichthys is based on one incomplete skull with no articulated bones, making it impossible to assemble an entire skull. The so-called internal nostril is what seems to be a notch between the premaxillary and maxillary. This notch could result from missing bone.

The lack of pictures or even illustrations of this incomplete skull makes an independent analysis impossible. Most articles on this fossil are so filled with evolutionary interpretations that they have no independently useful data. Also, the fossil is from China, where there is known to be a large fake fossil industry, and there is no indication that the authors personally found the fossil in the ground. If they bought it from a dealer, it could be a result of this fake fossil industry.

Even if they are right about the notch being an internal nostril, it is dated as 25-30 million years too old to be transitional between fish and amphibians. There are several types of lobe-finned fish that are considered ancestors to amphibians that are dated younger than Kenichthys but show no evidence of this internal nostril. This fact alone eliminates Kenichthys from being a transitional fossil between fish and amphibians.

[Avante]

You said you made up the god you pray to.

But we're the fools?

Lol

I have no idea what all this about just like everyone else, I do however feel better about things thinking there is something out there responsible for all this, I don't need to trust in any particular God, so I don't. He knows I believe and that's all that matters.

When we see people doing this sort of thing it sure beats the hell out of a bunch of miserable atheists doing .....nothing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTggpaBR6o

[mouse]

Why are you guys so hell bent against accepting evolution?

unlike yourself I would like to think I am here from a source of intelligence and complicated DNA not just from two apes fucking.

[spurraider21]

unlike yourself I would like to think I am here from a source of intelligence and complicated DNA not just from two apes fucking.
nobody ever said that DNA came from apes fucking

DNA predates apes significantly

[spurraider21]

First of all, Kenichthys is based on one incomplete skull with no articulated bones, making it impossible to assemble an entire skull. The so-called internal nostril is what seems to be a notch between the premaxillary and maxillary. This notch could result from missing bone.

The lack of pictures or even illustrations of this incomplete skull makes an independent analysis impossible. Most articles on this fossil are so filled with evolutionary interpretations that they have no independently useful data. Also, the fossil is from China, where there is known to be a large fake fossil industry, and there is no indication that the authors personally found the fossil in the ground. If they bought it from a dealer, it could be a result of this fake fossil industry.

Even if they are right about the notch being an internal nostril, it is dated as 25-30 million years too old to be transitional between fish and amphibians. There are several types of lobe-finned fish that are considered ancestors to amphibians that are dated younger than Kenichthys but show no evidence of this internal nostril. This fact alone eliminates Kenichthys from being a transitional fossil between fish and amphibians.
so you took something entirely different from what i told you to look up.

ok.

[mouse]

I'll do us both a favor and let you have your fish to lizard theory it still doesn't show how "Man" Evolved from a lizard.

And how did you get your fish with feet from a bunch of rocks? Your going to lose huge on this topic are you sure you want to continue?

[Blake]

unlike yourself I would like to think I am here from a source of intelligence and complicated DNA not just from two apes fucking.

Where did the source of intelligence come from?

[mouse]

nobody ever said that DNA came from apes fucking

DNA predates apes significantly

So where did DNA come from?

[Blake]

I have no idea what all this about just like everyone else, I do however feel better about things thinking there is something out there responsible for all this, I don't need to trust in any particular God, so I don't. He knows I believe and that's all that matters.

When we see people doing this sort of thing it sure beats the hell out of a bunch of miserable atheists doing .....nothing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTggpaBR6o


my kid made up an invisible friend too when she was little. It was cute.

[spurraider21]

And how did you get your fish with feet from a bunch of rocks?
what? are you talking about fossils? do you know what fossils are?

[Blake]

So where did DNA come from?

where do you think it came from?

[spurraider21]

So where did DNA come from?
RNA

[mouse]

Where did the source of intelligence come from?

My guess from a designer or another life source form another galaxy or solar system that is far advanced then we will ever comprehend.

After all what is the alternative "nothing exploding" ?

I personally don't really care and does it really matter? It's the Evolutionist and the Creationists that are at odds with each other I only chime in when I see bull shit being passed as facts.

And man from fish is bullshit at it's purist form.

[mouse]

where do you think it came from?

Not really sure I do know where it didn't come from.

[mouse]

RNA

Glad you solved that mystery for someone who seems to be intelligent you sure ask a lot of questions.

[spurraider21]

Do you think dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time?

[spurraider21]

My guess from a designer
you told me you dont believe in a designer. did you change your mind?

[mouse]

Where did I ever say believe?


And what is with you and your repeating questions?

I already debated this topic numourus times please put down the muscle milk and read the 50 plus page topics on this very subject.

[Uriel]

You may not realize it, but you Americans' denial of evolution has made you the laughingstock of the world. You are literally the butt of the jokes of the scientific community.

[spurraider21]

Where did I ever say believe?


And what is with you and your repeating questions?

I already debated this topic numourus times please put down the muscle milk and read the 50 plus page topics on this very subject.
muscle milk? never had it

do you think dinosaurs and humans coexisted?

[Uriel]

The debate is settled. Evolution is a fact. Denying evolution is like denying the world is round or denying that the Earth revolves around the sun. You may not realize it, but believe me, you people look extremely stupid to the international community.

[mouse]

You may not realize it, but you Americans' denial of evolution has made you the laughingstock of the world. You are literally the butt of the jokes of the international scientific community.

Your confusing people who don"t support Darwin with creationists,
And on a side note what did your people believe in befor Darwin came around?

Personally I rather be laughed at for not supporting evolution than to be laughed at for believing I'm here
from two apes fucking.

[Uriel]

Your confusing people who don"t support Darwin with creationists,
And on a side note what did your people believe in befor Darwin came around?

Personally I rather be laughed at for not supporting evolution than to be laughed at for believing I'm here
from two apes fucking.
Wow. :lmao

[mouse]

The debate is settled. Evolution is a fact.

Prove it.


Denying evolution is like denying the world is round or denying that the Earth revolves around the sun.


Maybe in your small international mind.



You may not realize it, but believe me, you people look extremely stupid to the international community.

I can live with that.

[spurraider21]

mouse do you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

[Uriel]

Prove it.
Read it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth.JPG

[mouse]

Dude you pulled out the Dawkins card? You must be new to debating Evolution.

First off Dawkins already admitted on camera there must be a designer/creator so you picked the wrong vato to hitch your wagon to.

Second if your going to say Evolution is fact because you read it in a book you may as we'll stop right now you will surely be laughed at by my community.

[mouse]

Read it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth.JPG

That book your trying to use as evidence has been debunked more times than the Apollo moon landings.

NxJMMpTgDDo

[mouse]

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[Uriel]

That book your trying to use as evidence has been debunked more times than the Apollo moon landings.

WOW. :lmao

Look mouse. I'm sure you're a good, well-meaning person in real life. But believe me, to a rational third party observer, you look really, really stupid right now.

[Avante]

WOW. :lmao

Look mouse. I'm sure you're a good, well-meaning person in real life. But believe me, to a rational third party observer, you look really, really stupid right now.

The only one stupid here is you little man. For every....see see proof of evolution....there are twice that many....nope, it didn't happen like that....and only an idiot isn't aware of this.

[Uriel]

The only one stupid here is you little man. For every....see see proof of evolution....there are twice that many....nope, it didn't happen like that....and only an idiot isn't aware of this.
I'm not stupid, tbh. Haven't you heard? I'm a member of Mensa.

[Avante]

I'm not stupid, tbh. Haven't you heard? I'm a member of Mensa.

Anyone calling themselves Urinalmint and belonging to Mensa can't be too bright.

[Uriel]

Anyone calling themselves Urinalmint and belonging to Mensa can't be too bright.
I doubt you could even sniff Mensa with your IQ. :lol

[Avante]

I doubt you could even sniff Mensa with your IQ. :lol

Trust me little shit my IQ is on a whole higher wrung on the ladder above yours.

[Uriel]

Trust me little shit my IQ is on a whole higher wrung on the ladder above yours.
Prove it. Take an IQ Test. Show me the result.

http://iqtest.com/

[Avante]

Prove it. Take an IQ Test. Show me the result.

http://iqtest.com/

Suck my dick then show me a smile.

[leemajors]

Prove it. Take an IQ Test. Show me the result.

http://iqtest.com/

you could have just pointed out he doesn't know the difference twixt rungs on a ladder and a dishcloth that's been "wrung" out

[Uriel]

Suck my dick then show me a smile.
I KNEW IT. :lmao

If you think you're so smart, why don't you have the balls to actually take an IQ Test? It's because you know your IQ isn't nearly high enough.

[Avante]

I KNEW IT. :lmao

If you think you're so smart, why don't you have the balls to actually take an IQ Test? It's because you know your IQ isn't nearly high enough.

Let me guess, at the end of that test I will be asked for my e-mail address ....right?

If you are trying to peddle..."I;m so smart"...you are looking like an idiot trying, ok?

[Avante]

you could have just pointed out he doesn't know the difference twixt rungs on a ladder and a dishcloth that's been "wrung" out

You of all people trying to talk smarts, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Uriel]

Let me guess, at the end of that test I will be asked for my e-mail address ....right?

If you are trying to peddle..."I;m so smart"...you are looking like an idiot trying, ok?
:lmao Talking smack about being smart
:lmao Not having the balls to prove it by taking an IQ test
:lmao Making excuses for his cowardice

[spurraider21]

i just took it. doesn't take very long and they email u your score after trying to make u pay for some shit.

avante why dont you step up to the plate?

[Avante]

:lmao Talking smack about being smart
:lmao Not having the balls to prove it by taking an IQ test
:lmao Making excuses for his cowardice

No way in hell I'm giving my e-mail address out again, I learned my lesson about that.

Anyone who plays this....'I smart see my IQ test"....is a fucking moron.

[spurraider21]

No way in hell I'm giving my e-mail address out again, I learned my lesson about that.

Anyone who plays this....'I smart see my IQ test"....is a fucking moron.
take the test, and when it asks for an email address, just use this...

http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html

those create email accounts u can use for websites and they delete within 10 minutes

[Avante]

take the test, and when it asks for an email address, just use this...

http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html

those create email accounts u can use for websites and they delete within 10 minutes

That's pretty cool, I never knew about that.

[spurraider21]

That's pretty cool, I never knew about that.
alrite start testin. chop chop

[Avante]

alrite start testin. chop chop

I might later, not really in a.....see see see I smart...mood right now. Especially since I could ask 50 questions here nobody could answer.

[spurraider21]

I might later, not really in a.....see see see I smart...mood right now.
i'll bet you never are. not one of your strong suits

[spurraider21]

avante i will paypal you 1 dollar if you take the test and post a screenshot of your score within the next hour

[Avante]

i'll bet you never are. not one of your strong suits

Then that makes two of us slick.

[spurraider21]

Then that makes two of us slick.
thanks for admitting you aren't smart

[Avante]

avante i will paypal you 1 dollar if you take the test and post a screenshot of your score within the next hour

Look I only have a few things I will know about...

How to make any woman happy.

How to make $$$$$$.

How to get total strangers to follow me around on any messgeboard.

How to built a powerful muscular physique.

All there is know about....

football
track
sci fi

ok?

[spurraider21]

you say you like making $$$$$ and you are turning down an easy dollar

not sure what the current exchange rate is but that could probably land you an underaged hooker somewhere

[Avante]

thanks for admitting you aren't smart

I thought it was real obvious I'm just a dummy...no?

[Avante]

you say you like making $$$$$ and you are turning down an easy dollar

not sure what the current exchange rate is but that could probably land you an underaged hooker somewhere

If you think you can get any hooker for a buck then ya might wanna shut up about smarts.

[ohmwrecker]

spurraider rawdogging Avante

[Avante]

spurraider rawdogging Avante

You are kidding right?

[Uriel]

i just took it. doesn't take very long and they email u your score after trying to make u pay for some shit.

avante why dont you step up to the plate?
Did you get 130 or above? If so, you should consider applying for Mensa. :)

[ohmwrecker]

You are kidding right?

I'm always kidding, amigo.

[Avante]

Did you get 130 or above? If so, you should consider applying for Mensa. :)

An intelligent person doesn't......see see I scored high on an IQ test, I dare you to take it.....that's what idiots do.

[ohmwrecker]

:lol Mensa

[spurraider21]

:lol Mensa
:lol paying money so u can get a little ID card that says you are smart

[spurraider21]

An intelligent person doesn't......see see I scored high on an IQ test, I dare you to take it.....that's what idiots do.

:lmao


Trust me little shit my IQ is on a whole higher wrung on the ladder above yours.

:lol calls himself an idiot
:lol idiot

[Avante]

I had a grand father who couldn't read or write, what he could do was fix anything, ace auto mechanic, an artist, played the piano and could grow anything and cook better than any woman I ever knew.

I know guys with college degrees without a lick of common sense,

[spurraider21]

I had a grand father who couldn't read or write
must run in the family

[Avante]

:lmao



:lol calls himself an idiot
:lol idiot

You cannot be this dumb, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was me....responding...to the idiot, ok stupid?

[Avante]

must run in the family

You don't wanna take me on when it comes to literature little man, trust me.

[ohmwrecker]

You don't wanna take me on when it comes to literature little man, trust me.

http://clep.collegeboard.org/exam/literature/questions

[spurraider21]

:lmao

[Avante]

http://clep.collegeboard.org/exam/literature/questions

I do get a kick out of this,....I just gots to prove he isn't.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Little man, I've read all the classics, have read a book a week since I was a frosh in HS. There isn't a notable author I;m not aware of. My home library, over 10,000 books strong. Ranging from everything from westerns to Islam.

Would totally take you to school and everyone else here.

[Avante]

:lmao

translation

I don't know anything about literature.

[Avante]

Who here is familiar with the poetry of Langston Hughes and Hart Crane? Who has read Olaf Stapeldon? Anyone into James Baldwin, Richard Wright and Ralph Ellison?

[spurraider21]

translation

I don't know anything about literature.
your translation skills are horrible. i doubt you understand any of that literature you read

[ohmwrecker]

Never heard of them bluesmen.

[Avante]

your translation skills are horrible. i doubt you understand any of that literature you read

Then you'd be dumber than I thought you were. And that's pretty dumb.

I was reading Heinlien at 10 years old half pint. By 12 I'd finished off everything Poe and London ever wrote.

[Avante]

Never heard of them bluesmen.

Those weren't bluesmen.

[ohmwrecker]

Those weren't bluesmen.

Really?

[Avante]

Really?

Google them.

[ohmwrecker]

Google them.

Don't need to.

[spurraider21]

so you have time to bicker here, when you could have take the test about 11 times in that span

[Avante]

Don't need to.

I've noticed something about you guy, you're lazy aren't ya? Ya don't really wanna put out much effort do ya?

[ohmwrecker]

I've noticed something about you guy, you're lazy aren't ya? Ya don't really wanna put out much effort do ya?

I don't need to because I know who they are, dummy. We even talked about Stapledon before... you're calling me lazy and you won't take a ten minute test? :lol

[Avante]

so you have time to bicker here, when you could have take the test about 11 times in that span

I don't care about the test, obviously. It means nothing to me at all, only idiots like you need that sort of thing. Anyone who reads me knows when it comes to my interests I have no equal. I couldn't care less about.....if we have a 7 and a 9 and.....that shit is stupid.

[spurraider21]

I don't care about the test, obviously. It means nothing to me at all, only idiots like you need that sort of thing. Anyone who reads me knows when it comes to my interests I have no equal. I couldn't care less about.....if we have a 7 and a 9 and.....that shit is stupid.
ok then stop trying to act like an expert in physics and biology when it comes to topics like the origins of this thread when those aren't your interests at all

[Avante]

I don't need to because I know who they are, dummy. We even talked about Stapledon before... you're calling me lazy and you won't take a ten minute test? :lol

Then why act goofy about it?

[ohmwrecker]

Then why act goofy about it?

I'm in a goofy mood.

[Avante]

ok then stop trying to act like an expert in physics and biology when it comes to topics like the origins of this thread when those aren't your interests at all

Little one, I've talked about all that stuff many times with many dummies just like you on numerous boards like this one. I know all the arguments. I know all about your dance routines, because I've seen it many times before.

You're simply an idiot who doesn't get what's really going on at all.

[Avante]

I'm in a goofy mood.

So I'm the lucky one, damn!

[ChumpDumper]

lol wrung

[spurraider21]

Little one, I've talked about all that stuff many times with many dummies just like you on numerous boards like this one. I know all the arguments. I know all about your dance routines, because I've seen it many times before.

You're simply an idiot who doesn't get what's really going on at all.
it's not about memorizing the arguments, you moron. its to actually know what you are talking about. that's the difference between a chess player and somebody who just memorizes chess openings from a book

its frustrating to have actually put years of study into something, and have some half wit say "only an idiot would think this.... hahahahahahaha"

especially when you have virtually zero understanding of physics, biology, or science in general

[Avante]

it's not about memorizing the arguments, you moron. its to actually know what you are talking about. that's the difference between a chess player and somebody who just memorizes chess openings from a book

its frustrating to have actually put years of study into something, and have some half wit say "only an idiot would think this.... hahahahahahaha"

especially when you have virtually zero understanding of physics, biology, or science in general

What's really frustrating is to have some moron like you think anyone with even half a brain actually buys all that crap. I know far far far far more intelligent people than you who would laugh in your face over that stupidity you show.

Hey stupid, if all that was true don't you think everyone would drop the...God...thing? You really can't have both dummy, honest!

Getting back to reading and writing, you wanna talk a little literature slugger?

[Avante]

lol wrung

A sad little leech like you playing critic, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Uriel]

Look Avante, since you're obviously smarter and more well-read than the rest of us, you should just stop being pussy and take the IQ Test already. It's free and will take 30 minutes of your time.

http://iqtest.com/

[Avante]

Look Avante, since you're obviously smarter and more well-read than the rest of us, you should just stop being pussy and take the IQ Test already. It's free and will take 30 minutes of your time.

http://iqtest.com/

I prefer to just stay...obviously smarter and more well read...than everyone else. I have nothing to gain.

[spurraider21]

That shit takes 30 minutes? :lol

not even

[Avante]

That shit takes 30 minutes? :lol

not even[/QUOTE]

Let me ask ya a question half pint.....how come sooooooooooooooooooooooo many disagree with all that shit you try to peddle?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLnlBEJiRY

[ChumpDumper]

A sad little leech like you playing critic, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!What's wrung with that?

[ChumpDumper]

I prefer to just stay...obviously smarter and more well read...than everyone else. I have nothing to gain.And everything to lose if you get enough questions wrung.

[Avante]

Is this one sad little shit or what, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

That shit takes 30 minutes? :lol

not even

Let me ask ya a question half pint.....how come sooooooooooooooooooooooo many disagree with all that shit you try to peddle?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLnlBEJiRY
an overwhelming majority of scientists support evolution. it's really not even close. bringing up a couple of dozen of scientists who disagree is like me bringing up successful onside kicks... or successful hail mary touchdowns. a slim minority

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously less than a minute for that almanac list?

crofl

[Avante]

Hmmmm?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHeSaUq-Hl8

I could start right now posting similiar videos and articles all saying pretty much the same thing, that being the theory of evolution is a crock of bullshit.

[ChumpDumper]

Avante, you know all you are proving is you can spam a thread with Google.

You haven't watched any of these.

[spurraider21]

:lol "dogs stay dogs"

we've seen wolves become dogs

:lol bacteria stay bugs

bugs are insects

[ChumpDumper]

Hmmmm?
AYBRbCLI4zU

[ChumpDumper]

I mean I didn't watch it but I expect you to rebut every issue brought up in it right now.

[spurraider21]

:lmao coldwater media
:lmao not biased

http://i.imgur.com/5Mb0XrV.jpg?1

[Avante]

Avante, you know all you are proving is you can spam a thread with Google.

You haven't watched any of these.

I'm going to talk to your dumbass just so ya know....

I watch all these videos, I find them very interesting. Some I've seen more than once so as usual.....wrong.

[Avante]

:lmao coldwater media
:lmao not biased

So you know more about this than that guy does....right?

You do know there are tons and tons of others agreeing with him, right?
http://i.imgur.com/5Mb0XrV.jpg?1

[ChumpDumper]

I'm going to talk to your dumbass just so ya know....

I watch all these videos, I find them very interesting. Some I've seen more than once so as usual.....wrong.Watch the one I posted.

It's very interesting.

[Avante]

:lol "dogs stay dogs"

we've seen wolves become dogs

:lol bacteria stay bugs

bugs are insects

Now think dummy, ok?

Remember the wolf did evolve from a sea creature.....right? So when did this start to happen?

[Avante]

Watch the one I posted.

It's very interesting.

Dude, I want nothing to do with your sickness...ok? I am forced to put up with you (like we all are) because you're a sad little fuck with no self repect/class at all.

Now I need a shower....yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, I want nothing to do with your sickness...ok? I am forced to put up with you (like we all are) because you're a sad little fuck with no self repect/class at all.

Now I need a shower....yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!It's a very interesting video.

What are you afraid of?


Might be a little....ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! Over your head?

[Avante]

Hmmmmm?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdi3TGd717U

[spurraider21]

Now think dummy, ok?

Remember the wolf did evolve from a sea creature.....right? So when did this start to happen?
even if i gave you indisputable evidence you would just go back to what you said earlier "i'll never change my mind." so why should i bother with somebody as close-minded as you?

i've already given the answer for the sea-to-land thing earlier today and you ignored it. scroll back a few pages and read it again

[spurraider21]

You do know that there are tons and tons of others agreeing with him, right?
like i've already told you, a VAST majority of scientists will vouch for evolution. you can say "tons and tons" but those are still a part of a small minority.

in terms you would understand, i'm sure you can go back in history and find "tons and tons" of examples of hail mary plays being executed and resulting in a touchdown. but you and i both know that it fails most of the time, and its not even close.

so going back and giving me numerous examples of successful hail marys doesn't change the fact that its statistically an unsuccessful last gasp play

[mouse]

Remember there is a community laughing.

[Avante]

even if i gave you indisputable evidence you would just go back to what you said earlier "i'll never change my mind." so why should i bother with somebody as close-minded as you?

i've already given the answer for the sea-to-land thing earlier today and you ignored it. scroll back a few pages and read it again

So how come sooooooooooooo many disagree with you?

[Avante]

like i've already told you, a VAST majority of scientists will vouch for evolution. you can say "tons and tons" but those are still a part of a small minority.

in terms you would understand, i'm sure you can go back in history and find "tons and tons" of examples of hail mary plays being executed and resulting in a touchdown. but you and i both know that it fails most of the time, and its not even close.

so going back and giving me numerous examples of successful hail marys doesn't change the fact that its statistically an unsuccessful last gasp play

So why is it we see so much stuff about all that being wrong?

[ChumpDumper]

So how come sooooooooooooo many disagree with you?Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many agree with him too.

[ChumpDumper]

So why is it we see so much stuff about all that being wrong?You mean wrung.

[Avante]

David H. Bailey
1 Jan 2014 (c) 2014

It is often said that many scientists, including some with Ph.D. degrees and significant credentials in the field, now believe there are serious difficulties with modern evolutionary theory. Indeed, there are some scientists who dissent. For example, in 2005 Philip Skell, a retired chemistry professor at Pennsylvania State University and former member of the National Academy of Sciences, wrote the following [Skell2005 (http://www.sciencemeetsreligion.org/resources/bibliography.html#Skell2005)]:

Scientific journals now document many scientific problems and criticisms of evolutionary theory. ... Many of the scientific criticisms of which I speak are well known by scientists in various disciplines, including the disciplines of chemistry and biochemistry, in which I have done my work. ... None of the great discoveries in biology and medicine over the past century depended on guidance from Darwinian evolution -- it provided no support. ... In my judgment, this state of affairs has persisted mainly because too many scientists were afraid to challenge what had become a philosophical orthodoxy among their colleagues. Fortunately, that is changing as many scientists are now beginning to examine the evidence for neo-Darwinism more openly and critically in scientific journals.

[Avante]

They just keep coming....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2koWcJnuFY

[Avante]

Let's say I get a good paying job teaching weight training using only barbells because the company I work for makes and sells them. I learn about a better way to do things using pullies and bands. Do I tell those I train about this, of course not.

I think we see a lot of that with this evoultion bullshit. Scientists who know they'd better not rock the boat on this, so they don't.

There is simply way too much out there talking about the....bogus...theory of evolution to not see what is really going on.

spurraider I know you hate to think you spent all that time learning about a load of bullshit, but ya did....bummer.

[spurraider21]

So how come sooooooooooooo many disagree with you?


David H. Bailey
1 Jan 2014 (c) 2014

It is often said that many scientists, including some with Ph.D. degrees and significant credentials in the field, now believe there are serious difficulties with modern evolutionary theory. Indeed, there are some scientists who dissent. For example, in 2005 Philip Skell, a retired chemistry professor at Pennsylvania State University and former member of the National Academy of Sciences, wrote the following [Skell2005 (http://www.sciencemeetsreligion.org/resources/bibliography.html#Skell2005)]:

Scientific journals now document many scientific problems and criticisms of evolutionary theory. ... Many of the scientific criticisms of which I speak are well known by scientists in various disciplines, including the disciplines of chemistry and biochemistry, in which I have done my work. ... None of the great discoveries in biology and medicine over the past century depended on guidance from Darwinian evolution -- it provided no support. ... In my judgment, this state of affairs has persisted mainly because too many scientists were afraid to challenge what had become a philosophical orthodoxy among their colleagues. Fortunately, that is changing as many scientists are now beginning to examine the evidence for neo-Darwinism more openly and critically in scientific journals.



They just keep coming....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2koWcJnuFY
you can post example after example, it really doesn't matter. its the equivalent of you showing me several examples of successful Hail Mary touchdowns! the Doug Flutie play. the russell wilson play. link after link after link... right?

but it has been made clear that a VAST MAJORITY of scientists are on the other side of the coin, Avante. you can keep spamming google, but that isn't going to change it. a hail mary has a low success rate, and a small minority of scientists disagree with evolution

[spurraider21]

Remember there is a community laughing.
do you think dinosaurs and humans coexisted?

[spurraider21]

So why is it we see so much stuff about all that being wrong?
why is it we can see so many examples of successful hail mary touchdowns?

[spurraider21]

Let's say I get a good paying job teaching weight training using only barbells because the company I work for makes and sells them. I learn about a better way to do things using pullies and bands. Do I tell those I train about this, of course not.

I think we see a lot of that with this evoultion bullshit. Scientists who know they'd better not rock the boat on this, so they don't.

There is simply way too much out there talking about the....bogus...theory of evolution to not see what is really going on.
yeah, but its not like every evolutionary biologist works for one umbrella company called "Science Inc" or something like that. scientists REGULARLY attack each other's claims. this is called "peer review." this means every time a scientist wants to publish his findings in an academic journal, thousands of other scientists working in completely different spheres dissect his study and try to find flaws in it before allowing it to be published.

lets say in your example, you learned a better way to do things using pullies and bands, but out of pressure, you don't tell those you train about it. but you have a dozen competing weight training studios scattered throughout the same city. if one of them discovers a better way to do it, you bet your ass they will advertise their "new, better technique" and try to attract clients that way.

basically every scientific breakthrough comes at the expense of somebody else's work. every time a new theory is accepted, that means the previous one is discarded or minimized. Newtonian gravity was replaced by Einsteinian gravity. although many of newtons principles carry over, newton's laws fail when you get too close to a supermassive object like the sun (which is why newtons laws failed at predicting mercury's orbits)... and newtons laws also fail when it comes to small masses, like within an atom.

[mouse]

They just keep coming....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2koWcJnuFY


http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxiyu8Btb1qj3i85.gif

[spurraider21]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxiyu8Btb1qj3i85.gif
do you think dinosaurs coexisted with humans?

[Avante]

why is it we can see so many examples of successful hail mary touchdowns?

So you know more about this than all those I showed you....right? So all those professors/scfientists are wrong and you know more about it......right?

Your football thing is too stupid to even bother with.

[Avante]

do you think dinosaurs coexisted with humans?

Why not actually watch that video, ok?

[Avante]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxiyu8Btb1qj3i85.gif


100% the truth and only a fool wouldn't see it.

[spurraider21]

So you know more about this than all those I showed you....right? So all those professors/scfientists are wrong and you know more about it......right?

Your football thing is too stupid to even bother with.
its not that "i" know better... its that a VAST majority of scientists will disagree with the one's you've handpicked. even if you give me a list of 1,000 scientists, you can rest assured that a MUCH larger number of scientists are going to be pro-evolution.

this is why i keep using the football analogy. every time you are bringing up a scientist that disagrees, it is like bringing up an example of a successful hail mary. there are probably thousands of successful hail marys in the history of football, if you add up the ones in pro, college, high school.

imagine a started a thread and had a video of EVERY singe one of those. 40+ pages of successful hail mary touchdowns. would that mean that the hail mary is a high%, successful play? no.

you can keep giving example after example of scientists, but it isn't even debatable that evolution is accepted by a vast, vast majority of all scientists

[ChumpDumper]

Why not actually watch that video, ok?Why not watch the one I posted, ok?

[spurraider21]

Why not actually watch that video, ok?
i did. it doesn't really make a good point.

a) it attacks artist illustrations.

whoop-dee-doo. i dont care for artist illustrations either. but the fossils are there and you can see them in museums.

b) it attacked a handful of mistakes that were made, like the java man.

this is a tired argument that robdiaz always pushes forward too. what's funny is, it is in fact the same scientific community that you like to mock, that discovered the errors and made the corrections. this is part of that whole peer review thing i talked about. some scientists made a mistake, and the scientific consensus determined that it was a mistake, and corrected it. the theory still stands, however, due to the overwhelming evidence

[mouse]

i did. it doesn't really make a good point.


Are you that much in denial?


a) it attacks artist illustrations.

And those drawings are used in the school text books.

If it was a drawing that was in the bible or something a creationist posted you would be all over it.




whoop-dee-doo. i dont care

And that is why your not worth the time debating with


but the fossils are there and you can see them in museums.

What fossils? Are you saying you can show proof man evolved from an ape?

Show is all the fossils you speak of.





b) it attacked a handful of mistakes that were made, like the java man.

So how many mistakes do you get?

Java man is a perfect example how Science will bull shit the public every chance they get and you support that bullshit.
I get it your side lies it's whoop -dee-doo no biggie .

You and your Darwin supporters lost this debate years ago with the discovery of DNA and if you continue to support Evolution your going to look foolish and regret debating it.


this is a tired argument

No shit

[spurraider21]

Are you that much in denial?



And those drawings are used in the school text books.

If it was a drawing that was in the bible or something a creationist posted you would be all over it.





And that is why your not with the time debating with



What fossils? Are you saying you can show proof man evolved from an ape?

Show is all the fossils you speak of.






So how many mistakes do you get?

Java man is a perfect example how Science will bull shit the public every chance the get and you support that bullshit.
I get it your side lies it's whoop -dee-doo no biggie .

You and your Darwin supporters lost this debate years ago with the discovery of DNA and if you continue to support Evolution your going to look folkish and regret debating it.



No shit
do you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

I will answer your questions as soon as you answer this one, which i've been asking all day. It only requires a yes or no.

[mouse]

do you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

I am not 100% sure I'am still doing research on it, but I give it a 60% chance what I find will convince many I debate with online,FB.MIT, and ST ob course I'm talking (real people who are out to broaden they're minds.... not win some sort of a smack off)

There is too many cave drawings, pottery, and statues of dinosaurs all around the globe for these people to just create in there minds what a dinosaur looks like and get it just right is like 1,000 to 000.01 you would have a better chance to win a live debate with DR. Hovind then to some how not only know how the dinosaur looked just by looking at bone but to get the colors right?

Dude if your going to get high pass the pipe over here esse. You should have bailed after page one.


I will answer your questions as soon as you answer this one,

Are you related to pee wee Herman what's with the tit for tat style of debating are you using?



which i've been asking all day. It only requires a yes or no.

You forgot about "Maybe" look not everyone drinks coke or Pepsi some of us drink DR.Pepper.

You see that's your problem your young, and you want answers now but your not willing to learn anymore your not willing to open door number 3



http://www.qwizx.com/gameshows/backgrounds/curt3.png

[spurraider21]

:lmao thinks The Flintstones were based on a true story
:lmao humans didn't even know about dinosaurs until the 1800's
:lmao dinosaur fossils predate anything human by over 60 million years
:lmao mouse will respond with shellfish as "debunking" carbon dating methods, even though i've already explained why shellfish have this phenomenon
:lmao Dr. Hovind
:lmao Doctorates in Christian Education
:lmao Dinosaur expert
:lmao received his bechelors, masters, and doctorates all from non-accredited schools
:lmao creationist theme park
:lmao mouse charading as an atheist even though everything he brings up is creationist
:lmao Christian Science Evangelists
:lmao The Flintstones are a documentary
:lmao currently imprisoned for tax evasion

[mouse]

You went for the bait......

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/05/article-2518827-19DCB02000000578-184_634x475.jpg

[mouse]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Alternative-Design-003.mp4 (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Alternative-Design-003.mp4)

[spurraider21]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Alternative-Design-003.mp4 (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Alternative-Design-003.mp4)
:lol you've posted this probably a dozen times in this thread alone

a) Pasteur's findings do nothing to refute Darwin
b) The Urey-Miller Experiment: it originally yielded organic compounds and amino acids. in the 90's they realized the gases used in the experiment were not consistent with the early-world atmosphere, as Miller himself admitted. so they REDID the experiment with the correct gases and came up with even MORE diverse molecules.

:lol so they actually improved on it, while the video calls it a failure.

read up, dude

[Avante]

Way too much stuff out there disputing/criticizing the theory of evolution and as the years go by it's getting worst. The internet is choked full of articals/videos all saying pretty much the same thing......the theory of evolution is a crook of crap.

To put a lot into some....theory...with it's origins how long ago....nay! We have moved on past that and it's obvious.

[ChumpDumper]

Way too much stuff out there disputing/criticizing the theory of evolution and as the years go by it's getting worst. The internet is choked full of articals/videos all saying pretty much the same thing......the theory of evolution is a crook of crap.

To put a lot into some....theory...with it's origins how long ago....nay! We have moved on past that and it's obvious.Sorry, you're just wrong.

How does it feel to be so wrong and so fat at the same time?

[spurraider21]

Way too much stuff out there disputing/criticizing the theory of evolution and as the years go by it's getting worst. The internet is choked full of articals/videos all saying pretty much the same thing......the theory of evolution is a crook of crap.

To put a lot into some....theory...with it's origins how long ago....nay! We have moved on past that and it's obvious.
Way too much stuff out there proving that the Hail Mary is a perfect play. The internet is choked full of videos all showing pretty much the same thing...... the hail mary is the most effective football play ever

[Avante]

Way too much stuff out there proving that the Hail Mary is a perfect play. The internet is choked full of videos all showing pretty much the same thing...... the hail mary is the most effective football play ever

So you are saying that no there aren't a ton of videos/articles talking about how the theory of evolution is bogus......right?

[ChumpDumper]

So you are saying that no there aren't a ton of videos/articles talking about how the theory of evolution is bogus......right?So how many more are there saying the theory of evolution is not bogus?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm?

[spurraider21]

So you are saying that no there aren't a ton of videos/articles talking about how the theory of evolution is bogus......right?
There are a ton of videos showing that the hail mary works and is effective.

do you know what the phrase "vast majority" means?

[Avante]

There are a ton of videos showing that the hail mary works and is effective.

do you know what the phrase "vast majority" means?

Don't the "vast majority" believe in a God?

Dude, the Hail Mary thing is beyond stupid, ok?

You're in the minority little guy.


LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - A Gallup poll from May, 2014, has some insights into what Americans believe about human origins. The vast majority of Americans believe that God was involved in creation, either by guiding human evolution or by creating humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years.

Only a distinct minority, about 19 percent, believe that God had no role in human creation, essentially an atheistic view.