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Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 03:31 PM
Get Judy. When she gets here let me know. You havent read shit in the bible have ya?

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 03:32 PM
She'd...."let me guess another internet moron, right?"


She would only say that if she believed her lying ass pastor or priest.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 03:33 PM
What color was Moses Avante?

I. Hustle
02-11-2016, 03:36 PM
The bible says he is black. If so-called christians want to thump and elevate themselves above any one, then the bible says Son of Man, is Black. You listed moses on there as well. Moses was black. Why? Because thats what the bible says, not my opinion, the WORD of the bible says that. So why take christians as anything other than hypocrite asshole liars. Why the need for PC? Call a liar a liar. There are Christain univeristies with scholars, bright motherfuckers. Why hasnt any of them insisted that the church be honest about the white boy they say is jesus? Why be dishonest about it? Liars will lie. Go get Judy and ask her what color Moses was. Then ask her why its ok to lie to the chosen people of god. Blacks.

Where does it say that he was black? Just curious.

Also, I've never met a Christain that was so caught up on him or Moses being white. Where are you meeting these people? Are they really obsessed? Are you talking about ALL Christians including Catholics, Baptists, etc? I only ask because I don't know that I have ever seen a painting or "picture" of Jesus in a non-denominational church.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 03:47 PM
Where does it say that he was black? Just curious.

Also, I've never met a Christain that was so caught up on him or Moses being white. Where are you meeting these people? Are they really obsessed? Are you talking about ALL Christians including Catholics, Baptists, etc? I only ask because I don't know that I have ever seen a painting or "picture" of Jesus in a non-denominational church.


It is in Revelations (Reveal). Cant post link very well from here. You can rest assured the vast majority of brown catholics idolize white jesus and that is problematic knowing the bible (also in revelations) speaks about false christs. This hints that alllll and every brown that had that picture of jesus anywhere on their heart or mind is suffering eternal because they turned away from the actual words. Black folk would probably benefit from knowing that the all time greatest man was black like them. As it is a lot of mexicans hate blacks yet love white jesus because thats what the slavemaster told them was right. Browns might find it hard to hate the chosen people of god and maybe white racists would understand that book has no real mention of fair or white skinned people. Thats Black History, give it back to them is all im saying. Avante , whats wrong with honesty?

I. Hustle
02-11-2016, 03:59 PM
It is in Revelations (Reveal). Cant post link very well from here. You can rest assured the vast majority of brown catholics idolize white jesus and that is problematic knowing the bible (also in revelations) speaks about false christs. This hints that alllll and every brown that had that picture of jesus anywhere on their heart or mind is suffering eternal because they turned away from the actual words. Black folk would probably benefit from knowing that the all time greatest man was black like them. As it is a lot of mexicans hate blacks yet love white jesus because thats what the slavemaster told them was right. Browns might find it hard to hate the chosen people of god and maybe white racists would understand that book has no real mention of fair or white skinned people. Thats Black History, give it back to them is all im saying. Avante , whats wrong with honesty?

Ok so I think you are referring to where it says his feet and arms SHINED like bronze and that his hair was WHITE like wool. If so, then I don't really think it said he was black. Now, going off the region where everything was said to have taken place, I HIGHLY doubt that there is any chance that he was white. On the flip side, I don't see how that really matters. I think he would have probably been the same as the majority of the people in that region during that time.

Avante
02-11-2016, 04:02 PM
She would only say that if she believed her lying ass pastor or priest.

It went like this....

Avante (looking up from the computer)....Quetzal-X wants to know what color was Moses?
Judy...who?
Avante....Quetzal-X.
Judy...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

As she walked away laughing.

Sorry.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 04:19 PM
Ok so I think you are referring to where it says his feet and arms SHINED like bronze and that his hair was WHITE like wool. If so, then I don't really think it said he was black. Now, going off the region where everything was said to have taken place, I HIGHLY doubt that there is any chance that he was white. On the flip side, I don't see how that really matters. I think he would have probably been the same as the majority of the people in that region during that time.


"13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; ...


As if they BURNED in a FURNACE. That sure sounds black to me. The bible didnt stop at brass/bronze. It hits it home with "Burned in a furnace" Anything go into a fire like that is gonna be a blackened motherfucker. Like that caged isis fire death. Black. And christians dont get to tweak the word to say it doesnt really matter. They either follow the WORD or they are fake liars. The bible NT says also the words of the OT are still in play and not one point can be changed by christian pastors and preachers.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 04:21 PM
It went like this....

Avante (looking up from the computer)....Quetzal-X wants to know what color was Moses?
Judy...who?
Avante....Quetzal-X.
Judy...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

As she walked away laughing.

Sorry.

Tell Judy X says -"I dont blame you Judy" for running from the bibles word.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 04:25 PM
"13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; ...


As if they BURNED in a FURNACE. That sure sounds black to me. The bible didnt stop at brass/bronze. It hits it home with "Burned in a furnace" Anything go into a fire like that is gonna be a blackened motherfucker. Like that caged isis fire death. Black. And christians dont get to tweak the word to say it doesnt really matter. They either follow the WORD or they are fake liars. The bible NT says also the words of the OT are still in play and not one point can be changed by christian pastors and preachers.


What other people have wooly hair AND SKIN that looks like it went in a furnace?. Not whites. Not asians. Not Mexicans. Wooly hair like sheep. Only the so called black man.

Avante
02-11-2016, 04:27 PM
Tell Judy X says -"I dont blame you Judy" for running from the bibles word.

I just told her that, ya know what she said?

Judy.....tell X if his God or Moses are black that's great. It really doesn't matter.


Well, there ya have it.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 04:43 PM
I just told her that, ya know what she said?

Judy.....tell X if his God or Moses are black that's great. It really doesn't matter.


Well, there ya have it.
If judy is saying the word of the bible does not matter, she is proof that christians are full of shit. You make sure you tell her shes full of shit too ok. Welp judy says it doesnt matter, why not just dump the whole act then? Why act like the bible is some guide to life then? Just make shit up along the way and edit as you please says Judy? Shes gonna be picking kools cotton avante . You let her know that too. No word is to be altered. Thats not my opinion avante. That is the bibles word.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 04:46 PM
Why act like that wet dog white jesus is not like a logo for a major corp? He is needed for marketing and guarding frail white egos about god.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 04:53 PM
I just told her that, ya know what she said?

Judy.....tell X if his God or Moses are black that's great. It really doesn't matter.


Well, there ya have it.


If it doesnt really matter, why not go with the WORD of THE BIBLE? Not by the hired works of rennaissance (re-birth) artists. I'll never understand the catholics in particular. The romans fucked jesus up yet followers will believe all shit coming from the pedofile roman catholic church as if never to have heard " the victors get to write(re-write) history) or some shit.

I. Hustle
02-11-2016, 05:18 PM
"13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; ...


As if they BURNED in a FURNACE. That sure sounds black to me. The bible didnt stop at brass/bronze. It hits it home with "Burned in a furnace" Anything go into a fire like that is gonna be a blackened motherfucker. Like that caged isis fire death. Black. And christians dont get to tweak the word to say it doesnt really matter. They either follow the WORD or they are fake liars. The bible NT says also the words of the OT are still in play and not one point can be changed by christian pastors and preachers.

Ok, so going off of the information that you provided. Have you ever seen metal burning in a furnace? It's more like a glowing or as I said before a type of shine. As far as the hair, and this is going off the info you provided, it says WHITE like wool and WHITE like snow. It didn't say curly like wool. It kind of sounds like you are tweaking it to sound the way that you want it. Isn't that what you are mad at them for?

Avante
02-11-2016, 05:19 PM
If judy is saying the word of the bible does not matter, she is proof that christians are full of shit. You make sure you tell her shes full of shit too ok. Welp judy says it doesnt matter, why not just dump the whole act then? Why act like the bible is some guide to life then? Just make shit up along the way and edit as you please says Judy? Shes gonna be picking kools cotton avante . You let her know that too. No word is to be altered. Thats not my opinion avante. That is the bibles word.

My man, Judy is a full grown woman, ok? No way in hell she gives a fuck what some freak on the internet says about anyhing, ok? She doesn't play this and asks me why I do. She's on a whole higher level than this silliness...ok little one?

Now run along son, you're boring the fuck out of me.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 05:46 PM
Ok, so going off of the information that you provided. Have you ever seen metal burning in a furnace? It's more like a glowing or as I said before a type of shine. As far as the hair, and this is going off the info you provided, it says WHITE like wool and WHITE like snow. It didn't say curly like wool. It kind of sounds like you are tweaking it to sound the way that you want it. Isn't that what you are mad at them for?


White is the color. Wool is the texture. It takes a lot of wishful thinking to imagine "burned in a furnace" to mean glowing. The only people it could be in that area is the so-called black man. The skin was ALREADY BROWN and got toasted further in a furnace.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 05:47 PM
My man, Judy is a full grown woman, ok? No way in hell she gives a fuck what some freak on the internet says about anyhing, ok? She doesn't play this and asks me why I do. She's on a whole higher level than this silliness...ok little one?

Now run along son, you're boring the fuck out of me.

I didnt think judy had any scripture to back up " it doesnt really matter" Its gonna matter to god.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 05:55 PM
One thing is for sure, any one past-on or still living that gives any church a pass when they see cesare borgia depicted as the Son of Man, gods gonna fuckem up good for lying. The cesare borgia depiction is even further away from the bible.

Long stringy straight hair--wrong
Eyes like fire--wrong
Skin burned in a furnace--real fucking total opposite

Cesare Borgia is leading shit tons of mexicans and other christians straight to the devil. The bible said there would be someone to make things with their own hands (RCC) and make them into things , give power to it so people would worship. It sounds like the bible is warning of the RCC evil. IMHO They are leading good folk around like slaves with that made up shit.

Quetzal-X
02-11-2016, 06:06 PM
Do todays catholic/christians keep the 1611 w/ Apocrypha?

Avante
02-12-2016, 12:28 AM
What's with this fucking freak, hahaha!!!!!!

Avante
02-13-2016, 12:23 PM
What are the odds?

I have a compilation CD..Love Songs. Elvis's...Are You Lonesome Tonight....skips, and it can't be cleaned/fixed I've tried. Now I found that out on Wed, just yesterday I hit a rare Thurs yardsale. There it is....10 Number One Hits (CD)...Elvis.

A buck well spent and it has....Don't....a great tune I only had cassette tape.

Imagine you are watching The Americasn Idol (any of those shows) and this shy guy comes out and...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cS5aCozhcA


Don't



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jbLez_LQyI


This is so good it hurts.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMm4NEQc1Q

Avante
02-13-2016, 12:37 PM
Check out those background vocals in the above. So keeping with the flo, the mood.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSlV5D7yMmQ

rollin'




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdBLBleO90

SpursforSix
02-13-2016, 12:40 PM
Do you like Elvis because he got with underage chicks?

Avante
02-13-2016, 12:43 PM
Do you like Elvis because he got with underage chicks?

translation

Love that stuff Avante, keep on rollin'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLR25EJtfE

SpursforSix
02-13-2016, 12:45 PM
translation

Love that stuff Avante, keep on rollin'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLR25EJtfE

How about some Motown

Avante
02-13-2016, 12:48 PM
How about some Motown

translation

Wow~~~~ I need more.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-VDbbjIto4




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvzNeh4Mq1o

SpursforSix
02-13-2016, 12:50 PM
translation

Wow~~~~ I need more.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-VDbbjIto4


How about some Elvis bluegrass

Avante
02-13-2016, 12:56 PM
Bill Monroe recorded the original, that's as bluegrass as it gets.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AAOM-BRxcg

SpursforSix
02-13-2016, 12:57 PM
Bill Monroe recorded the original, that's as bluegrass as it gets.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AAOM-BRxcg


Awesome. I used to hate bluegrass but I can get into some now.

Avante
02-13-2016, 01:03 PM
Awesome. I used to hate bluegrass but I can get into some now.

I was the same way, I didn't get into bluegrass until the last 10 years or so.


Getting back to Elvis. This is a pretty much forgotten tune he did in 1954 at Sun Records in his first recording session. Love this, fantastic sound.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7a9ZH1Z0M


Speaking of bluegrass.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sryj8R7exg0

While I knew about Bill Monroe, Flatt & Scruggs, The Stanley Brothers, Allison Krauss, Hazel Dickens I hadn't paid much attention, big mistake.

How good can it get?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1_pfC-q7T0

SpursforSix
02-13-2016, 01:21 PM
:tu

Avante
02-13-2016, 07:02 PM
I can only blame myself.

I'll walk out into my Fortress of Solitude and just stand there..........what to listen to? I'll stand there for a goof 5 minutes......hmmmm? well...ah...hmmmmm? Canned Heat...nay! Bob Marley....nay! Oldies....nay! Tom Waits...hmmm...nay? Ishman Bracey...well ah...nay! Clarence Ashley....nope?

Damn, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? EUREKA....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J715ef0tSI

Avante
02-26-2016, 07:16 AM
Authors that I own 10 or more books of theirs.

Louis L' Amour
John Steinbeck
Robert E. Howard
Edgar Rice Burroughs
J.T.Edson
Michael Moorcock
Lee Child
James Patterson
Robert Heinlien
James Lee Burke
Harlan Ellison
Hermann Hesse

Thought there'd be more.

I do have all of Poes stuff in one magnificent book, complete with a gold tassle as a book mark.
Have most of Jack London's stuff in a book.

The only author I'd want that I don't own anything by....Monk Williams, one of the founding fathers of the Gothic novel.

Quetzal-X
02-29-2016, 07:35 PM
Authors that I own 10 or more books of theirs.

Louis L' Amour
John Steinbeck
Robert E. Howard
Edgar Rice Burroughs
J.T.Edson
Michael Moorcock
Lee Child
James Patterson
Robert Heinlien
James Lee Burke
Harlan Ellison
Hermann Hesse

Thought there'd be more.

I do have all of Poes stuff in one magnificent book, complete with a gold tassle as a book mark.
Have most of Jack London's stuff in a book.

The only author I'd want that I don't own anything by....Monk Williams, one of the founding fathers of the Gothic novel.


What good is having books if you dont read them. Like the holy bible. You asked me to SHOW you the son of man was black and i did. How does a big time reader miss a detail like that? You wouldnt need to ask if you had read the bible. Judys bible is dusty as a motherfucker right?

Avante
02-29-2016, 10:12 PM
What good is having books if you dont read them. Like the holy bible. You asked me to SHOW you the son of man was black and i did. How does a big time reader miss a detail like that? You wouldnt need to ask if you had read the bible. Judys bible is dusty as a motherfucker right?


Dude, nobody gives a fuck, ok?

Blake
02-29-2016, 10:36 PM
Dude, nobody gives a fuck, ok?

Rofl coming from you that's rich

Avante
02-29-2016, 10:42 PM
Rofl coming from you that's rich

I can't do what you/others do, it bores the fuck out of me. I need more than just following people around seeing who I can bug. You really get a nut with that silliness don't ya?

Blake
02-29-2016, 10:57 PM
Nobody gives a fuck. OK?

Avante
02-29-2016, 11:05 PM
Nobody gives a fuck. OK?

Apparently they do little guy, notice the action Avante gets? Look at you, here ya are..AGAIN~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why?

Blake
03-01-2016, 09:42 AM
Apparently they do little guy, notice the action Avante gets? Look at you, here ya are..AGAIN~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why?

Only here to make fun of you. Nobody gives a fuck about your retarded lists and YouTube clips.

Avante
03-01-2016, 11:31 AM
Only here to make fun of you. Nobody gives a fuck about your retarded lists and YouTube clips.

That coming from a guy who has posted Mason's 2013 picks how many times? Has..."Nick Chubb averaged....hahahaha!!!!...dude, how stupid was that? Who tries all he can to..."you didn't nail Derrick Henry"

Little fuck, you care a hell of a lot about Avante, I;m a huge % of what you do here. Ya see ya little shit I own you and always have. And nobody likes you fucker and if anyone gets made fun of it's you.

How many times do I tell you..."ok time to ignore you"...only to watch you pounce on and start humping away, hahahaha!!!!!!!! Blake, you are so fucked up it's comical.

clambake
03-01-2016, 11:36 AM
i should start a "keep avante busy to save a child" thread.

Avante
03-01-2016, 11:38 AM
i should start a "keep avante busy to save a child" thread.

Do that, we'll have some fun there.

SpursforSix
03-01-2016, 11:47 AM
That coming from a guy who has posted Mason's 2013 picks how many times? Has..."Nick Chubb averaged....hahahaha!!!!...

Is Nick Chubb still married to Kate Labia?

Avante
03-01-2016, 12:14 PM
Is Nick Chubb still married to Kate Labia?

Checik it out faggot.

I said...."don't worry Nick Chubb (frosh) is a stud, Georgia won't even miss Gurley (stud RB who got injured)"...so he has a so so game and here comes Blake.."oh yeah well he only averaged...".....hahahaha!!!!!!! Chubb went on to set Georgia rushing records and was considered one of the best RB's in the nation.

Fucking Blake, what a freak, haha~~~~~~~

Blake
03-01-2016, 03:10 PM
That coming from a guy who has posted Mason's 2013 picks how many times? Has..."Nick Chubb averaged....hahahaha!!!!...dude, how stupid was that? Who tries all he can to..."you didn't nail Derrick Henry"

Little fuck, you care a hell of a lot about Avante, I;m a huge % of what you do here. Ya see ya little shit I own you and always have. And nobody likes you fucker and if anyone gets made fun of it's you.

How many times do I tell you..."ok time to ignore you"...only to watch you pounce on and start humping away, hahahaha!!!!!!!! Blake, you are so fucked up it's comical.

Lol still blaming your incredibly bad betting year in 2013 with your documented picks on Mason.

RandomGuy
03-01-2016, 03:40 PM
You know you have a shitty thread, when the OP abandons the topic...

Exquisitely detailed 520 million-year-old fossil shows individual nerves
Chengjiangocaris kunmingensis wasn't exactly a beautiful animal: The crustacean-like Cambrian creature had a long, segmented body and an unholy number of legs that it used to scuttle across the ocean floor. But scientists are oohing and ahhing over the ugly arthropod anyway, and for good reason. The nervous system of one 520 million-year-old specimen shows some of the best and most well-preserved nerves ever seen in an animal of that era.

According to a study published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the fossil may be the oldest and most detailed example of a central nervous system yet identified, with even individual nerves -- rarely preserved soft tissue -- visible enough to study.

[125 million-year-old fossil shows remarkably preserved organs and hair]

Most fossil specimens are the remains of teeth (the hardest part of the body) or bones. Soft tissues, such as nerves, are much more likely to decay over time. So studying the long evolution of nervous systems can be a daunting prospect.

The fossil described in the new paper, which was found in southern China, is a rare exception.

Researchers from Yunnan University had to take special precautions to maintain the integrity of the delicate system.

"Using a fine needle and a steady hand, they chipped away parts of the rock to reveal the preserved internal features; they only needed a bit of nerve cord sticking out to have a good idea of where to continue excavating in the fossil," study co-author Javier Ortega-Hernández of the University of Cambridge told The Washington Post in an email. "As usually happens with amazing discoveries, when I first saw the material it took me a bit of time to make sense of what I was looking at. After a little while, however, excitement kicked in after realizing that not only was this an exquisitely preserved nerve cord, but also that it has impossibly thin individual nerves sticking out from it!" he wrote.

That nerve cord — analogous to the spinal cord found in modern in vertebrates — ran through its entire body. Bead-like clusters of nerve tissue called ganglia (which act like "mini-brains along the nerve cord," according to Ortega-Hernández) each controlled a single pair of the animal's many legs.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-29-at-12.23.14-PM-233x300.png

Scientists have seen animals of similar age with preserved ganglia before, which Ortega-Hernández believes is the result of the fatty content of that nerve tissue — some of those chemicals may make it more prone to fossilization than other soft stuff in the body is. But Chengjiangocaris kunmingensis also shows a few dozen delicate, tiny individual nerve fibers sprouting out from the nerve cord and ganglia.

That may be an important clue in the evolutionary mystery.

"By contrast, arthropods of today only have the ganglia, but a very restricted number of the lateral nerves," he said. "The only living group today where scientists have found dozens of individual nerve fibers structured like these are priapulids (penis worms) and onychophorans (velvet worms), which are cousins of arthropods.

"Putting all of this together, the new fossils of C. kunmingensis allow us to recognize that the evolution of the nervous system in living arthropods involved the loss of some of these nerves, and that their presence in the fossil and the velvet worms is a very ancestral feature," Ortega-Hernández explained.

Ironically, while the shrimp-like creature's nervous system has revealed itself to researchers, its legs remain mysterious. In an email to The Post, corresponding author Xi-guang Zhang of Yunnan University explained that despite the unprecedented nerve preservation, the specimen's legs were too far gone to make an accurate count.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-29-at-12.22.52-PM-266x300.png

"We know C. kunmingensis has twenty-six limb-bearing trunk segments," Zhang wrote. Of these, the scientists are fairly certain that the front five segments each had one pair of identical legs. It's possible that the rear three or four segments were totally limbless, and other segments could have had two or even four pairs of legs apiece.

"So an individual possesses several tens of paired limbs," Zhang said, "but because of incomplete preservation we still do not know exactly how many pairs it would have had."

The researchers will need to find even more of these intact nervous systems if they want to complete the evolutionary puzzle. But that could prove difficult: After all, the specimen described in the study was a rare bird (erm, rare ancient shrimp-y thing).

"We have to bear in mind that each nerve strand is about 10 times thinner than a human hair," Ortega-Hernández said, "so being able to recognize this level of neurological detail is simply amazing."

This article was originally published on Feb. 29. It has been updated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/02/29/520-million-year-old-fossilized-nervous-system-is-the-most-detailed-of-its-kind/

RandomGuy
03-01-2016, 03:44 PM
Watching new species evolve in real time

Sometimes evolution proceeds much more rapidly than we might think. Genetic analysis makes it possible to detect the earliest stages of species formation and to gain a better understanding of speciation processes. For example, a study just published in PLOS Genetics by researchers from Eawag and the University of Bern - investigating rapid speciation in threespine stickleback in and around Lake Constance - shows that a species can begin to diverge very rapidly, even when the two daughter species breed alongside one another simultaneously.

The innumerable three-spined stickleback which end up in fishermen's nets on Lake Constance are an unwanted by-catch. Unlike some other species, these tiddlers - of no commercial value - appear to be relatively unaffected by lake eutrophication, bank stabilization and channelization. This species has been spreading rapidly throughout the Swiss Central Plateau for around 150 years. Now, an elaborate genetic study conducted by researchers at Eawag and Bern University helps to explain the secret of its success: the stickleback can evidently adapt very rapidly to new habitats - so rapidly that, for evolutionary biologists, it serves as a model for the divergence of a single species into two or more distinct species. Rather than just one "Lake Constance stickleback", the researchers found two different forms - typical of the lake and of inflowing streams - even though lake stickleback migrate into these streams during the spawning season.

According to first author David Marques, "It was completely unexpected for the species to diverge over such a short period, given that the sticklebacks breed at the same time and at the same sites." Usually, independent species develop by adapting to different habitats and reproducing isolated from other populations - at different depths of a lake, for example. Among whitefish, different breeding and spawning seasons have additionally evolved.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-02/p-wns022516.php

RandomGuy
03-01-2016, 03:46 PM
Sponge full of cholesterol pushes animal life back to 650 million years
Study confirms the forensics of the oldest evidence for animal life.


The earliest chapters in the history of life are in some ways the most interesting, but they're also the hardest to read. The pages are badly stained and tattered, and the print was terribly small to begin with. You can occasionally trip on a dinosaur femur, but any evidence that remains from the earliest animals is incredibly subtle.

Despite the challenges, we've learned that the “Cambrian explosion” was far from the start of multicellular life. The title for “most ancient animal” currently belongs to the sponge. A recently described fossil just a millimeter across appears to be a 600 million year old sponge—that’s 60 million years before the start of the Cambrian period. But we can find chemical traces going back another 50 million years that have been interpreted as a calling card for sponges. Some have challenged that interpretation, however, on the grounds that this chemical “biomarker” is not unique to sponges and could instead have come from a type of algae.

The biomarker of interest is the remnant of a sterol (as in “cholesterol”), which is a key component in the cells of eukaryotes (as opposed to bacteria and archaea). With a small bit of the chemical structure lopped off, you get a sterane that can happily hang around in the rock record. A group of researchers led by MIT’s David Gold took a closer look at the sterol 24-isopropylcholesterol in sponges and other organisms to find out more about when the genes for it evolved—and what is most likely to have left it in 650 million year old rocks.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/sponge-full-of-cholesterol-pushes-animal-life-back-to-650-million-years/

RandomGuy
03-01-2016, 03:48 PM
Restless Creatures: The Story of Life in Ten Movements
Matt Wilkinson Basic: 2016.
ISBN: 9780465065721

It would be hard to find a more companionable guide to the marvels of locomotory evolution than Matt Wilkinson. In Restless Creatures, the zoologist and writer rehearses twice-told tales of animals becoming bilateral, exiting the sea for the land and evolving flight, but makes them fresh. These are wonderfully adept and informed explanations of locomotory modes — whether in birds, gliding snakes, eels, sharks or a host of fossil vertebrates — and there is not a single vignette that I failed to learn something from. His prose is knowing and wonky enough to sound as if it comes from the reincarnation of that senior lecturer you had who knew too much for most of the undergraduates, but was hip and amusing out of class.

Wilkinson's thesis is that locomotion drives the evolution of all other features. This is laid out in his introductory chapter, which begins by insulting most people with religious sensibilities: “Righteousness apparently requires that we take everything for granted.” He then immediately takes natural selection for granted, declaring that “living things are as they are largely as a result of the process of adaptation”. But he provides no demonstration of this, making it seem as if the only difference between the world views of science and religion is taste, because the believers of neither feel a need to test it.

Wilkinson does modify the claim that natural selection answers all questions about life by writing that it is only “sort of true”, because it neglects the effects of mutations and the environment. But this is a 1960s view of evolution, of the kind propounded by Ernst Mayr. Yes, natural selection, mutation and environment are important. But there are also the inherited constraints of development, material properties and other functions of organisms, such as metabolism and reproduction, which are not necessarily optimized by natural selection. Sometimes they even work against it. The peacock's tail, for example, has long been thought (perhaps erroneously) to be a disadvantage in escaping predators quickly. The idea that the need for some form of locomotion has driven the whole evolution of plants and animals is a risky conceit.

But a deeper problem pervades Restless Creatures. About 40 years ago, evolutionary biologists such as Niles Eldredge and Joel Cracraft began to set hypotheses about the evolution of major features in phylogenetic context. Defining and dissecting an adaptation's components and then mapping them on an independently derived tree of relationships help us to visualize the sequence in which these traits arose, and therefore to test ideas of how functions evolved. We know that to fly, an animal does not need hollow bones or a perching foot. But it does need a wing capable of generating a specific kind of stroke, and the energetic and neuromuscular capacity to sustain flight. If you can work out in what sequence these traits appeared on a phylogenetic tree of the first members of a group, then your ideas about how flight evolved can become more explicit and testable.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v530/n7591/full/530416a.html

clambake
03-01-2016, 03:53 PM
you need to dangle a kid in front of that.

Avante
03-01-2016, 05:32 PM
I need 230 pages so....

Oh stop it, stop it, I'm no pedo.

That ought to do it.

pgardn
03-01-2016, 06:32 PM
I need 230 pages so....

Oh stop it, stop it, I'm no pedo.

That ought to do it.

And... you were not a fish.
We got how thoroughly you understand many topics.

Avante
03-01-2016, 09:04 PM
And... you were not a fish.
We got how thoroughly you understand many topics.

How many topics would ya like me to school ya on little fella?

NCAA football
NFL football
literature
boxing
track
body building
music

...?

pgardn
03-01-2016, 11:29 PM
How many topics would ya like me to school ya on little fella?

NCAA football
NFL football
literature
boxing
track
body building
music

...?

The thread is on evolution.
Just say you don't get it and then I will be happy to read a list in another thread.

Avante
03-02-2016, 02:32 AM
The thread is on evolution.
Just say you don't get it and then I will be happy to read a list in another thread.

This thread is about whatever I decide to talk about, you really haven't figured that out by now, just how damn dense are you?

Stupid, we all get the theory of evolution, ok? I simply don't buy it, alright ya dumb fuck?

Avante
03-02-2016, 02:41 AM
I call this kind of stuff, rusty nails.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv7pdcRimns



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCt-DBvktuI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgFk_N0FCB8

Avante
03-02-2016, 02:57 AM
Lol still blaming your incredibly bad betting year in 2013 with your documented picks on Mason.

Dude, ya don't lose that kind of $$$$$ and then announce....ok my picks now and never lose again...ok ya dumb fuck? So I just figured it out, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Blake, you are one dumb fuck.

Avante
03-02-2016, 03:00 AM
More, rusty nails.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erukHUyLQcA




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1S49gW250




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqyIlsGnIt8

Avante
03-02-2016, 03:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtdQiOPRDfA




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTx860Viz_E




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74N-JmjBo8

Avante
03-02-2016, 03:18 AM
You know you have a shitty thread, when the OP abandons the topic...

Exquisitely detailed 520 million-year-old fossil shows individual nerves
Chengjiangocaris kunmingensis wasn't exactly a beautiful animal: The crustacean-like Cambrian creature had a long, segmented body and an unholy number of legs that it used to scuttle across the ocean floor. But scientists are oohing and ahhing over the ugly arthropod anyway, and for good reason. The nervous system of one 520 million-year-old specimen shows some of the best and most well-preserved nerves ever seen in an animal of that era.

According to a study published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the fossil may be the oldest and most detailed example of a central nervous system yet identified, with even individual nerves -- rarely preserved soft tissue -- visible enough to study.

[125 million-year-old fossil shows remarkably preserved organs and hair]

Most fossil specimens are the remains of teeth (the hardest part of the body) or bones. Soft tissues, such as nerves, are much more likely to decay over time. So studying the long evolution of nervous systems can be a daunting prospect.

The fossil described in the new paper, which was found in southern China, is a rare exception.

Researchers from Yunnan University had to take special precautions to maintain the integrity of the delicate system.

"Using a fine needle and a steady hand, they chipped away parts of the rock to reveal the preserved internal features; they only needed a bit of nerve cord sticking out to have a good idea of where to continue excavating in the fossil," study co-author Javier Ortega-Hernández of the University of Cambridge told The Washington Post in an email. "As usually happens with amazing discoveries, when I first saw the material it took me a bit of time to make sense of what I was looking at. After a little while, however, excitement kicked in after realizing that not only was this an exquisitely preserved nerve cord, but also that it has impossibly thin individual nerves sticking out from it!" he wrote.

That nerve cord — analogous to the spinal cord found in modern in vertebrates — ran through its entire body. Bead-like clusters of nerve tissue called ganglia (which act like "mini-brains along the nerve cord," according to Ortega-Hernández) each controlled a single pair of the animal's many legs.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-29-at-12.23.14-PM-233x300.png

Scientists have seen animals of similar age with preserved ganglia before, which Ortega-Hernández believes is the result of the fatty content of that nerve tissue — some of those chemicals may make it more prone to fossilization than other soft stuff in the body is. But Chengjiangocaris kunmingensis also shows a few dozen delicate, tiny individual nerve fibers sprouting out from the nerve cord and ganglia.

That may be an important clue in the evolutionary mystery.

"By contrast, arthropods of today only have the ganglia, but a very restricted number of the lateral nerves," he said. "The only living group today where scientists have found dozens of individual nerve fibers structured like these are priapulids (penis worms) and onychophorans (velvet worms), which are cousins of arthropods.

"Putting all of this together, the new fossils of C. kunmingensis allow us to recognize that the evolution of the nervous system in living arthropods involved the loss of some of these nerves, and that their presence in the fossil and the velvet worms is a very ancestral feature," Ortega-Hernández explained.

Ironically, while the shrimp-like creature's nervous system has revealed itself to researchers, its legs remain mysterious. In an email to The Post, corresponding author Xi-guang Zhang of Yunnan University explained that despite the unprecedented nerve preservation, the specimen's legs were too far gone to make an accurate count.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-29-at-12.22.52-PM-266x300.png

"We know C. kunmingensis has twenty-six limb-bearing trunk segments," Zhang wrote. Of these, the scientists are fairly certain that the front five segments each had one pair of identical legs. It's possible that the rear three or four segments were totally limbless, and other segments could have had two or even four pairs of legs apiece.

"So an individual possesses several tens of paired limbs," Zhang said, "but because of incomplete preservation we still do not know exactly how many pairs it would have had."

The researchers will need to find even more of these intact nervous systems if they want to complete the evolutionary puzzle. But that could prove difficult: After all, the specimen described in the study was a rare bird (erm, rare ancient shrimp-y thing).

"We have to bear in mind that each nerve strand is about 10 times thinner than a human hair," Ortega-Hernández said, "so being able to recognize this level of neurological detail is simply amazing."

This article was originally published on Feb. 29. It has been updated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/02/29/520-million-year-old-fossilized-nervous-system-is-the-most-detailed-of-its-kind/

Have you ever posted a thread ya fucking leech?

Avante
03-02-2016, 03:38 AM
Staying in the mood....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtSFuTR_TE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6NDdF-R2uk




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53Lf5Jkbjs&list=PLDg1qs9sIkhbZhnHKsVp1fuy fp0TEbo6k

Avante
03-02-2016, 04:00 AM
Rollin'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui24C0lT9cw&feature=related




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EUgxcA3VE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_W_9jJf-U

Avante
03-02-2016, 04:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXFK82TGh7c



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsEJ3luZHyk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL_T7-il8AU

Avante
03-02-2016, 04:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Wn22Uo4JU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Los0g9Et7Ow



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaH4W1rY9us

RandomGuy
03-02-2016, 08:18 AM
Have you ever posted a thread ya fucking leech?

Butt says whut?

Blake
03-02-2016, 09:13 AM
Dude, ya don't lose that kind of $$$$$ and then announce....ok my picks now and never lose again...ok ya dumb fuck? So I just figured it out, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Blake, you are one dumb fuck.

Lol still claiming it was Mason that got on your computer and posted under your user name to make those failed NFL picks. You lying about it still makes me lol irl.

Lol betting expert

Avante
03-02-2016, 01:23 PM
Lol still claiming it was Mason that got on your computer and posted under your user name to make those failed NFL picks. You lying about it still makes me lol irl.

Lol betting expert

Dude, for about a year me and Mason shared this computer; ok simpleton. He has posted here many times as RaZon and Avante. It wasn't about him getting on ..my...computer under my anything....ok stupid? He was also a poster here...ok? You have talked to him many times.

I don't like to give out free $$$$$, as I mentioned. I wasn't going to make legit $$$$ plays. Mason however thought it might be fun and you were why he did it. Dude, you were a fucking joke. Look how you acted/act, hahahaha!!!!!!! We both laughed our asses off at you. I still do.

Anyway...

In 2014 I decided to say... fuck it... and make... MY... plays. I won $2100 in that Avante Betting Thread right here. In 2015 I won again, $500 (lost 550 on the SB). So you really think I just all of a sudden figured out ATS wagering, you really that stupid? There is a science to it ya dumb fuck, one ya don't figure out in a year.

Dude, I don't lose at ATS wagering, and if ya had even half a brain you'd see how I do it. I know how it's done. Now next season I'll win again, as I've been doing for the last 25 years. BUT....you will still...see see see 2013.....hahahahaha~~~~~~

Blake, you're one dumb fuck, ya know that?


Simpleton, pay attention.

teams will be one of 4 things...

HF...home fav
HD...home dog
RF...road fav
RD...road dog

Seattle is 13-4 as a HF ATS in Oct, St.Louis is a RD ATS 3-14 in Oct. Now ya find 3-5 "spots" where the numbers are that strong favoring a side. Now think ya dumb fuck....ok? What are the odds?

You start there, ok slugger?

clambake
03-02-2016, 02:04 PM
Dude, for about a year me and Mason shared this computer; ok simpleton. He has posted here many times as RaZon and Avante. It wasn't about him getting on ..my...computer under my anything....ok stupid? He was also a poster here...ok? You have talked to him many times.

I don't like to give out free $$$$$, as I mentioned. I wasn't going to make legit $$$$ plays. Mason however thought it might be fun and you were why he did it. Dude, you were a fucking joke. Look how you acted/act, hahahaha!!!!!!! We both laughed our asses off at you. I still do.

Anyway...

In 2014 I decided to say... fuck it... and make... MY... plays. I won $2100 in that Avante Betting Thread right here. In 2015 I won again, $500 (lost 550 on the SB). So you really think I just all of a sudden figured out ATS wagering, you really that stupid? There is a science to it ya dumb fuck, one ya don't figure out in a year.

Dude, I don't lose at ATS wagering, and if ya had even half a brain you'd see how I do it. I know how it's done. Now next season I'll win again, as I've been doing for the last 25 years. BUT....you will still...see see see 2013.....hahahahaha~~~~~~

Blake, you're one dumb fuck, ya know that?


Simpleton, pay attention.

teams will be one of 4 things...

HF...home fav
HD...home dog
RF...road fav
RD...road dog

Seattle is 13-4 as a HF ATS in Oct, St.Louis is a RD ATS 3-14 in Oct. Now ya find 3-5 "spots" where the numbers are that strong favoring a side. Now think ya dumb fuck....ok? What are the odds?

You start there, ok slugger?

was that a nice little break from pedoville?

Avante
03-02-2016, 02:11 PM
was that a nice little break from pedoville?

translation

Good stuff there Avante, so tell me some more about how to win ATS.


Sure.

You look for "spots" where one team has all the ATS advantages. Ya want to double up the number, something like 10-5.

Niners at home on MNF are 10-2 ATS as a HD. The Pats on the road on MNF are 4-7 ATS as a RF. That gives the Niners a 17-6 advantage ATS in this "spot". Now ya want to find 3-5 "spots" with numbers that strong on your side. So what are the odds of most of those "spots" going south on ya on the same week, yep...not good.

clambake
03-02-2016, 02:20 PM
what does ATS stand for?

asians to screw?

Avante
03-02-2016, 02:47 PM
what does ATS stand for?

asians to screw?

Is this sad to watch or what, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Poor little guy.

Avante
03-04-2016, 03:36 PM
I was just a little kid when I first started playing football, it didn't take me long before...."man these black kids can run'. Then in my track and HS football days there it was...

Sam Davis
Ocie Early
Tommie Smith
Augusta Brown
Milton Edwards
Clim Jackson
Tyrone Whatley
Leotis Booker
MacKinley Dillingham
Alvin Mann
Bill Cowings
Larance Jones

...all black speedsters from right round here.

Why do people try to..."it's not about race"....when it OBVIOUSLY is?

This is a black thang.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byr5enXtl-0

That could be....

Gale Sayers
Mel Gray
Nolan "Super Gnat" Smith
Brian Mitchell
Travis Williams
Ollie Matson
Dante Hall

etc etc etc etc.............................

spurraider21
03-04-2016, 03:43 PM
Scientists Observe Evolution Of Rapidly Evolving Fish In Real TimeEvolution is a process that occurs at a rapid pace and although it can be difficult to keep up with, new genetic analysis techniques make it possible to detect the earliest stages of species formation in order to better grasp the processes that drive speciation.




In order to understand these processes, a team of researchers from Switzerland's University of Bern analyzed the rapid speciation that occurs in three-spined stickleback in and around the area of Lake Constance. The results revealed that species can diverge very rapidly, even when the two daughter species are breeding alongside each other at the same time, contradicting the common necessity for reproductive isolation during speciation.

Unlike many other species, three-spined stickleback possess no commercial value and thus have not been affected by lake eutrophication, bank stabilization and channelization, allowing them to spread throughout the Swiss Central Plateau for the last 150 years.

The new genetic study reveals the secret to this species success: rapid adaptation to new habitats. In fact, this adaptation is so rapid that evolutionary biologists are now using them as a model for the divergence of one species into two or more distinct species.

The team discovered two different forms of the stickleback - one common in the lake and the other in inflowing streams - despite the fact that lake stickleback migrate into the streams during spawning seasons.

"It was completely unexpected for the species to diverge over such a short period, given that the sticklebacks breed at the same time and at the same sites," said (http://phys.org/news/2016-02-species-evolve-real.html) David Marques, first author of the study.

Typically, independent species come into existence through adaptation to different habitats and reproductive isolation. Now, different breeding and spawning seasons can be added to that list.

The rapid evolution (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/scientists-watching-rapidly-evolving-fish-morph-into-two-distinct-forms-in-real-time/) of a new variant alongside its original variant allows scientists to witness evolution in real time and may help scientists better understand how other species have diverged into two or more variants.

Although previous research (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/02/evolution-in-real-time/) has evidenced evolution in real time, the organisms examined were bacteria with short reproductive times, allowing the researchers to witness the process over thousands of generations.



http://www.hngn.com/articles/185156/20160304/scientists-observe-evolution-of-rapidly-evolving-fish-in-real-time.htm

Avante
03-04-2016, 03:49 PM
Scientists Observe Evolution Of Rapidly Evolving Fish In Real Time

Evolution is a process that occurs at a rapid pace and although it can be difficult to keep up with, new genetic analysis techniques make it possible to detect the earliest stages of species formation in order to better grasp the processes that drive speciation.




In order to understand these processes, a team of researchers from Switzerland's University of Bern analyzed the rapid speciation that occurs in three-spined stickleback in and around the area of Lake Constance. The results revealed that species can diverge very rapidly, even when the two daughter species are breeding alongside each other at the same time, contradicting the common necessity for reproductive isolation during speciation.

Unlike many other species, three-spined stickleback possess no commercial value and thus have not been affected by lake eutrophication, bank stabilization and channelization, allowing them to spread throughout the Swiss Central Plateau for the last 150 years.

The new genetic study reveals the secret to this species success: rapid adaptation to new habitats. In fact, this adaptation is so rapid that evolutionary biologists are now using them as a model for the divergence of one species into two or more distinct species.

The team discovered two different forms of the stickleback - one common in the lake and the other in inflowing streams - despite the fact that lake stickleback migrate into the streams during spawning seasons.

"It was completely unexpected for the species to diverge over such a short period, given that the sticklebacks breed at the same time and at the same sites," said (http://phys.org/news/2016-02-species-evolve-real.html) David Marques, first author of the study.

Typically, independent species come into existence through adaptation to different habitats and reproductive isolation. Now, different breeding and spawning seasons can be added to that list.

The rapid evolution (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/scientists-watching-rapidly-evolving-fish-morph-into-two-distinct-forms-in-real-time/) of a new variant alongside its original variant allows scientists to witness evolution in real time and may help scientists better understand how other species have diverged into two or more variants.

Although previous research (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/02/evolution-in-real-time/) has evidenced evolution in real time, the organisms examined were bacteria with short reproductive times, allowing the researchers to witness the process over thousands of generations.



http://www.hngn.com/articles/185156/20160304/scientists-observe-evolution-of-rapidly-evolving-fish-in-real-time.htm

This guy reminds me of.....


It was going to be our last class in my creative writing class at COS, we were all going to meet at the teachers house and share our writings and drink some wine. So this okie we had in the class raises his hand....

Miss Roberts...yes?
Okie....can we bring beer?

As the class just rolled their eyes.

Blake
03-04-2016, 03:59 PM
Scientists Observe Evolution Of Rapidly Evolving Fish In Real TimeEvolution is a process that occurs at a rapid pace and although it can be difficult to keep up with, new genetic analysis techniques make it possible to detect the earliest stages of species formation in order to better grasp the processes that drive speciation.




In order to understand these processes, a team of researchers from Switzerland's University of Bern analyzed the rapid speciation that occurs in three-spined stickleback in and around the area of Lake Constance. The results revealed that species can diverge very rapidly, even when the two daughter species are breeding alongside each other at the same time, contradicting the common necessity for reproductive isolation during speciation.

Unlike many other species, three-spined stickleback possess no commercial value and thus have not been affected by lake eutrophication, bank stabilization and channelization, allowing them to spread throughout the Swiss Central Plateau for the last 150 years.

The new genetic study reveals the secret to this species success: rapid adaptation to new habitats. In fact, this adaptation is so rapid that evolutionary biologists are now using them as a model for the divergence of one species into two or more distinct species.

The team discovered two different forms of the stickleback - one common in the lake and the other in inflowing streams - despite the fact that lake stickleback migrate into the streams during spawning seasons.

"It was completely unexpected for the species to diverge over such a short period, given that the sticklebacks breed at the same time and at the same sites," said (http://phys.org/news/2016-02-species-evolve-real.html) David Marques, first author of the study.

Typically, independent species come into existence through adaptation to different habitats and reproductive isolation. Now, different breeding and spawning seasons can be added to that list.

The rapid evolution (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/scientists-watching-rapidly-evolving-fish-morph-into-two-distinct-forms-in-real-time/) of a new variant alongside its original variant allows scientists to witness evolution in real time and may help scientists better understand how other species have diverged into two or more variants.

Although previous research (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/02/evolution-in-real-time/) has evidenced evolution in real time, the organisms examined were bacteria with short reproductive times, allowing the researchers to witness the process over thousands of generations.



http://www.hngn.com/articles/185156/20160304/scientists-observe-evolution-of-rapidly-evolving-fish-in-real-time.htm

Very fascinating. :tu

Avante
03-04-2016, 04:10 PM
Very fascinating. :tu

Blake, now we both know you didn't read a word of it, don't we, hahahaha!!!!!!!!

Blake
03-04-2016, 04:14 PM
Blake, now we both know you didn't read a word of it, don't we, hahahaha!!!!!!!!

Sure I did. But we all know you can't comprehend any of it, don't we. Mwahahhhhhahahahahaha

Avante
03-04-2016, 04:23 PM
Sure I did. But we all know you can't comprehend any of it, don't we. Mwahahhhhhahahahahaha

No ya didn't so why lie about it? You didn't read any of it.

spurraider21
03-04-2016, 04:37 PM
This guy reminds me of.....


It was going to be our last class in my creative writing class at COS, we were all going to meet at the teachers house and share our writings and drink some wine. So this okie we had in the class raises his hand....

Miss Roberts...yes?
Okie....can we bring beer?

As the class just rolled their eyes.
And you remind me of the kid that never paid attention in class, failed the test, and then claimed the teacher is wrong and your answer is right

Avante
03-04-2016, 04:49 PM
And you remind me of the kid that never paid attention in class, failed the test, and then claimed the teacher is wrong and your answer is right

Dude, you really haven't noticed my thing about stats/trends/numbers and lists and my amazing menory? Sure ya have.

Anything that interests me I can hold my own vs anyone. And you know that so why act stupid?

spurraider21
03-04-2016, 04:53 PM
Dude, you really haven't noticed my thing about stats/trends/numbers and lists and my amazing menory? Sure ya have.

Anything that interests me I can hold my own vs anyone. And you know that so why act stupid?
google and almanacs =/= amazing memory

Avante
03-04-2016, 04:56 PM
google and almanacs =/= amazing memory

Dude, so I didn't see Jim Brown play? I didn't see Elvis on the Ed Sullivan show? I didn't see Bob Hayes win the 1964 Olympics? I didn't see Cassius Clay in the 60 Olympics? I haven't been into pro football since the late 50's? I didn't graduate from HS in 68?


Well?

spurraider21
03-04-2016, 04:57 PM
yes, you're very old

Avante
03-04-2016, 04:59 PM
yes, you're very old

But I need almanacs and Google....that make any sense to you?

So I'm real, real, REAL old, but have to......hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on little guy, why play that stupid shit?

I was watching "Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis at Michigan, seen CHOO CHOO Winters at Nebraska. Dude, don't play this silly Google crap ,ya know better...ok?

Why do you go from..."he does know his history"...to..."you Googled it"....well?

Avante
03-04-2016, 05:44 PM
I was born in 1949 in Tulare Cali. At 10 years old I knew all of Hank Williams songs and had read most the classics. I was also into football and track. Remember seeing Dick Bass play while he was at UOP. Hell, Jim Brown wasn't the best runner on his Browns team, that was his tailback Bobby Mitchell. There were no Dallas Cowboys yet ,or the old AFL.

But, I need...Google....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Why do you little people fight this like ya do, hell embrace it and learn something, ok?

When the great Bob Hayes was at Florida A&M he ran on a 4x1 team with, who? Go head GOOGLE it.:hat

Avante
03-04-2016, 08:22 PM
Google me this.

10 old blues cats who only recorded one record.

All those RB's who used....Tank, Thunder,Truck...as a nickname.

10 HBCU sprinters who ran a 9.3 or faster for 100 yards.

10 Sword & Sorcery literary heros like Conan.

What HBCU school had three 26 foot longers all there at the same time?

Remember it's all on Google, right?

Blake
03-08-2016, 03:30 PM
No ya didn't so why lie about it? You didn't read any of it.

There's only 12 sentences in that post. Why would I lie about reading a short post?

Just because you struggle with big science words doesn't mean others do.

Avante
03-08-2016, 04:28 PM
There's only 12 sentences in that post. Why would I lie about reading a short post?

Just because you struggle with big science words doesn't mean others do.

You didn't read it and we both know it, so why lie?

clambake
03-08-2016, 04:30 PM
You didn't read it and we both know it, so why lie?

was it about lance rentzal?

Avante
03-08-2016, 06:29 PM
Retarded people on a computer, ha~~~~~~~~~

Blake
03-08-2016, 06:31 PM
You didn't read it and we both know it, so why lie?

You're free to quiz me over the content.

But that means you'd have to comprehend the material to confirm I'm right and we all know you can't

Avante
03-08-2016, 10:53 PM
You're free to quiz me over the content.

But that means you'd have to comprehend the material to confirm I'm right and we all know you can't

I'm not the one....


Nick Chubb averaged...

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Little man, what was that about, well? So he was never going to play another game? Why tell me that silly shit? Well?

Blake, you are simply too fucking stupid to play the crap ya do, ok? Trust me guy, if you can figue something out so can I ....ok?

Avante
03-10-2016, 07:21 AM
One of the most fascinating things I ever experienced was this.....

When ya pull into Hong Kong you will drop anchor about three miles out. Boats will haul you in. Well going from the ship to shore you must pass through a floating city. Whole families living on boats all hooked together forming a city before ya get to the city. They are used to us by now but being 19 this is all new to me. And I had no camera.....bummer. Which is my major bummer about all that, I don't have any pictures.

Imagine sitting in a cab waiting for a cow. You get out and....shoo...you will be shot/stabbed/beat to a pulp. Cows were sacride in Bangkok. You simply went around them or waited until they finished whatever.

Then there;s the ferry ride from Hong Kong to Kowloon, passing all those junks and seeing two great cities from a distance, very cool, and....no pictures. Of all the places I went the best looking women were in Kowloon.

The worst place I ever visited was Korea, talk about some very serious cold, there it was. I didn't know there was that kind of cold. It was so cold we relieved the watch every 15 minutes ,instead of the usual hour (ya rotate) An hour ya would have froze to death. I never hit the beach in Korea, the word was.....ugly. big boned sitnky women and so damn cold all ya could think about was keeping warm. I ran a slush fund there(27 on 20) instead.:hat

Avante
03-10-2016, 08:06 AM
I always think of Korea when I play this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qkdrspD4pM

You'd want to mix that with....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeNfHcADy7k


Rollin'




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyPC95VWFcg

Avante
03-10-2016, 12:45 PM
I've always like lists, can't really explain why, I just do.

The black pro rasslers...ah...list:hat

Bobo Brazil
Sweetdady Siki
Dory Dixon
Sailor Art Thomas
Ernie Ladd
Bad News Allen
Booker T
Butch Reed
Tiger Conway/Tiger Conway Jr.
Mark Henry
Ahmad Johnson
Big E. Langston....those other two don't belong on any list.
Brickhouse Brown
Savannah Jack
Rufus R. Jones
Kamala
Mabel
Stevie Ray
Ron Simmons
Rocky Johnson/The Rock
Earl "Mr.Universe" Maynard
Tyree Pride
Larry Cameron
Shag Thomas
Luther Lindsey
Iceman King Parsons
Shaska "Pez" Whatley
Tony "Mr. USA" Atlas
Kareem Muhammad
Abdullah the Butcher
Junkyard Dog
Koko B.Ware
Too Cold Scorpio
Bearcat Wright

clambake
03-10-2016, 12:55 PM
have you read "when all the laughter dies in sorrow"?

Avante
03-10-2016, 01:09 PM
have you read "when all the laughter dies in sorrow"?

Little man, I had my fun with ya, ok? How about we move on, ok? You really are starting to become one massive bore, ok? Now don't become a huge pest and just keep on acting retarded..ok? If ya simply need Avante he'll talk to you but only if ya cool all this bullshit...got it?

clambake
03-10-2016, 01:13 PM
i say what i want to say.

i'm not 12

clambake
03-10-2016, 01:14 PM
besides, you don't even have the courage to read that book.

Avante
03-10-2016, 01:19 PM
besides, you don't even have the courage to read that book.

Why do you always totally ignore what is said to you, well? How about actually responding to what I said to you....ok? Why am I talking to you if you totally ignore what I;m saying?

ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dude, this is getting real boring for me, ok? You are too damn stupid to keep my interest, alright? Now what are you going to do about this situation, well? Now, how about you respond to that ok skippy? Don't go off into some bullshit totally ignoring what I just said, ok?

Avante
03-10-2016, 03:39 PM
Robert E. Howard had...Conan, King Kull, El Borak, Solomon Kane
Michael Moorcock had....Elric the Alpino Prnce of Meliborne, Dorian Hawkmoon
ERB had...Tarzan, John Carter on Mars
Sax Rohmer had....Fu Manchu
Sor Conan Doyle had....Sherlock Holmes
L.Sprague DeCamp had...Thongor
Fritz Leiber had..Fahard and the Grey Moser
John Jakes had...Brak
Gardner F. Fox had....Kyrik
David C. Smith had...Oron
Louis L' Amour had...The Sacketts
J,.T.Edson had...Dusty Fog
I have...Avante:king

clambake
03-10-2016, 04:08 PM
keep it coming, lance.

Avante
03-10-2016, 04:23 PM
keep it coming, lance.

Ok, since you simply refuse to answer anything I ask of you, we are done.

Good bye~~~~~~~~

clambake
03-10-2016, 04:27 PM
is your favorite song "girl, you'll be a woman soon"?

Avante
03-11-2016, 05:35 AM
Nice little mix



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICrG0UnFyYQ&list=PL9TyvS6YVmaG-V-FFiD5qI_5tqID9SFjO




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8F-DMgHXPs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbgb3lgMluA

Avante
03-11-2016, 03:57 PM
ALRIGHT~~~~~~ to...boohooboohoo...in less than a second.

Had to go pay some bills, so I stopped at the Salvation Army next to one of those places taking my $$$$. They have CD's. So I find something by Gillian Welch, she's in that Hazel Dickens school of Appalacian hillbilly. So I open the case to see what kind of condition the CD is in.....it's empty (no unlike some places they don't keep the CD's behind the counter). Totally bummed me out.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS2oygw_MTg

clambake
03-11-2016, 04:13 PM
what does that have to do with "girl you'll be a woman soon"?

Avante
03-11-2016, 04:17 PM
what does that have to do with "girl you'll be a woman soon"?


translation

Great stuff as usual Avante, how about some Ironing Board Sam?

Cool~~~~



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FWyOor_oZQ

Blake
03-11-2016, 04:19 PM
Had to go pay some bills, so I stopped at the Salvation Army next to one of those places taking my $$$$.

Oh you mean like a payday loan place

Avante
03-11-2016, 04:25 PM
Oh you mean like a payday loan place

My man, $$$$$$$$$ will never be a problem, I made sure of that years ago.

Blake
03-11-2016, 05:03 PM
My man, $$$$$$$$$ will never be a problem, I made sure of that years ago.

Right, you're paying bills at a place next to the Salvation Army because you want to

Avante
03-11-2016, 05:22 PM
Right, you're paying bills at a place next to the Salvation Army because you want to

Blake, what really is wrong with you? EVERYTHING....is some problem for you, haha~~~~

Judy...can ya pay these today, safe me some stamps?
Avante...sure.

Across the street from the place ya pay the gas bill, yep, a Salvation Army. And I needed to get some parrot food also, ya now...honey do's? And I paid our insurance on our vehicles, also. Thrilling, huh?

So what are you even talking about, do you even know?

Blake
03-11-2016, 05:27 PM
Lol parrot food

Avante
03-11-2016, 06:47 PM
Lol parrot food

Yeah Blake, parrot food.

What planet does this little shit live on?

Neighbor...gotta go, time to feed my birds.
Blake....feed the birds..hahaha!!!
Neigbor...that's funny? How?
Blake...ah...well..ah.

clambake
03-11-2016, 06:49 PM
ok mr. diddle

Blake
03-11-2016, 08:03 PM
Yeah Blake, parrot food.

What planet does this little shit live on?

Neighbor...gotta go, time to feed my birds.
Blake....feed the birds..hahaha!!!
Neigbor...that's funny? How?
Blake...ah...well..ah.

The picture you've painted here of your life is hilarious yet sad and somewhat disturbing.

Avante
03-11-2016, 08:17 PM
The picture you've painted here of your life is hilarious yet sad and somewhat disturbing.

That coming from a guy who's wife dumped him, he thinks a freshman RB's APG means something, follows Avante around and thinks parrot food is funny. Oh hell yes, you got it going, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Avante
03-14-2016, 11:55 PM
Standing in my Fortress of Solitude looking for my next book to read and what to listen to. Over there my 4000 strong sci fi/sword&sorcery/horror the supernatural, authors like Robert Heinlein, Isacc Asimov, Robert E. Howard, H.P. Lovecraft. Next to those books my westerns, about 2000 of them, here we find Max Brand, Zane Grey, Luke Short and the great Louis L'Amour. Next to that my non fiction, here we find all those books on Islam, the black experience, bio's, the history of Rock&Roll, Blues, Body Building, track etc etc. On the other wall all my James Patterson, John Steinbeck, Hermann Hesse, Hemingway, Dickens, Fitzgerald, Jack London, James Lee Burke, Lee Child. All in all over 10 000 to choose from, have read about half of them. So what did I end up with.....Lee Childs.... AFFAIR, a Jack Reacher novel.

Now, what to listen to, hmmmmm? This sometimes takes a good 5 minutes, just how do you pick something out of 6000 CD's/tapes? (I need a new turn table, a 1000 records going to waste) Bo Jones, Papa Egg Shell, Baby Tate, The Why Store, Gypsy, Eddie Cochran, Jackie Shane, The Silences, Kolvane, And it goes on forever, so....??? But after...nay..nay..nope...nay......Kelly Joe Phelps.

Is this great or what?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm3FCfUgIqI&list=PLTNymgiJKhb1t_eJlLgxMNPO eQwfPN1VG

A Skip James classic.

Avante
03-15-2016, 11:17 PM
So just where would Hulk Hogan stack up vs the greats?

All Time Top 20 Pro Rasslers.

1.Lou Thesz
2.Bruno Sammartino
3.Hulk Hogan
5."Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers
6. "Nature Boy? Ric Flair
7.Verne Gagne
8.Killer Kowalski
9.Fred Blassie
10. Harley Race
11."Superstar" Billy Graham
12.Andre the Giant
13.Dusty Rhodes
14.Dory Funk Jr
15.The Undertaker
16,Triple H
17.Dick the Brusier
18.John Cena
19.The Sheik
20"Stone Cold" Steve Austin

As a kid watching WRESTLING FROM THE OLYMPIC AUDITORIUM, it was...

Fred Blassie
Mr. Moto
Edouard Carpentier
The Sharpes
The Stanlees
Baron Leoni
Hard Bolied Haggarty
Lord Bliears
Don Eagle
Gorgeous George
Once in a great while.....Lou Thesz
Enrique Torres
Don Leo Jonathan
Destroyer
Sholhi "Giant" Baba
Rikidozan
The Scuflin' Hillbillies
The Torres Bros
"Crazy" Luke Graham
Haystacks Calhoun
"Dangerous" Danny McShane
Zebra Kid
Art "Boom Boom" Mahalick
"Iron" Mike Paducius
"Sockeye" Jack McDonald
Ricki Starr
Buddy "Killer" Austin
Bearcat Wright


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNagM0JN_4

I sw him at the end of his career, here he is at his best.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-edspwwYTk

Avante
03-15-2016, 11:47 PM
This is the movie that changed my life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWSoeEDKuIU


I ws 10 years old and knew what I wanted to be when I grew up. So I lifted chairs and did pushups, chin ups. Then at 15 my dad bought me a bench and some weights, been lifting ever since.

RandomGuy
03-16-2016, 03:57 PM
Ok then, what would you expect to find in terms of evidence were this theory to be true?

This is where repeating a definition ends, and understanding begins.


read the books on the evolution thing, ok?


"I've read books" isn't an answer to the question.

If you truly understood the theory, and were not mentally weak, you could easily answer the question.

...

Again 2nd time:
What would you expect to find in terms of evidence were [the theory of evolution] true?


All I know about the theory of evolution is what I read in a book. What the book was wrong?


The issue is not what you read in a book. It is whether you actually understand what you read. I do not know what book you are talking about, so I cannot speak to your question, which I can only guess is to deflect the conversation from your ignorance, or if you prefer, "mental weakness".

*If* you understood what you read to any depth, you should be able to easily answer the question, it is [I]very basic. All I have to do to prove my point that you don't understand the theory you criticize is simply show you unable/unwilling to answer the question.

3rd time:
What would you expect to find in terms of evidence were [the theory of evolution] true?


Understand what? All life forms evolved from a previous lower life forms, wow, complex.

So you can't actually demonstrate any understanding. All you can do is simply repeat a definition that you may nor may not ultimately understand. I figure three chances to answer an easy question is enough for anyone.


I guess it is easy to see who is "mentally weak" then.

QED

Avante
03-16-2016, 04:11 PM
So you can't actually demonstrate any understanding. All you can do is simply repeat a definition that you may nor may not ultimately understand. I figure three chances to answer an easy question is enough for anyone.


I guess it is easy to see who is "mentally weak" then.

QED

So let's talk about HBCU sprinters and the Olympics, how about Auburn running backs and USC 110 hurdlers, ok? Good ahead.

Yep, ya can't.

You are mentally weak.

I know all I care to know about evolution, the reason being it's as boring as boring gets.

Avante
03-16-2016, 04:31 PM
Here I sit the most knowledgeable poster on this board laughing my ass off at guys like this Random freak, who can't talk anything but evolution, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about mentlly weak,there it is.

clambake
03-16-2016, 04:47 PM
Here I sit the most knowledgeable poster on this board laughing my ass off at guys like this Random freak, who can't talk anything but evolution, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about mentlly weak,there it is.

i would say lance rentzal is mentally weak.

you agree?

Avante
03-16-2016, 04:53 PM
i would say lance rentzal is mentally weak.

you agree?

translation

Show off a little bit for us Avante, ok? Show us something only you can do ok?

Sure.

NFL 1000 yard rushers out of USC.

Mike Garrett
O.J.Simpson
Charles White
Marcus Allen
Ricky Bell
Sm Cunningham
Reggie Bush
Lendale White

Yep, multi talented:toast

clambake
03-16-2016, 04:55 PM
i was just using old school football guys that you can relate to.

what other football players compare to you and lance?

Avante
03-16-2016, 05:09 PM
i was just using old school football guys that you can relate to.

what other football players compare to you and lance?

translation

Wow!

Give me USC 's fantasy 4x1 team?

Cool~~~~

leading off...Lennox Miller...Jamaica, an Oly silver.bronze at 100m
second..Andre DeGrasse...Canada, the school 100m record holder and their first sub10.00. Won the bronze(tied) ay the 2015 Worlds in the 100m
third..Don Quarrie...Jamaica, an Oly 200m champ (what ya want on the curve) silver in the 100m
anchor...James Sanford...top ranked in the world at 100m back in the day.

clambake
03-16-2016, 05:46 PM
what makes them like you and lance?

Avante
03-16-2016, 07:19 PM
what makes them like you and lance?

translation

Amazing~~~~

So what about that UCLA fantasy 4x1?

Cool~~~

leadoff...Mike Marsh....Oly 200m gold
second...Ato Boldon...Oly 100m bronze, Trinidad
third,...Millard Hampton..Oly 200m silver
anchor...Warren Edmonson...NCAA Champ

Avante
03-17-2016, 12:16 AM
Getting back to evolution.

What current creature was the last to evolve into what we now see? Remember it's always been evolving.

So when did the lion, tiger, cheetah, jaguar break off into what they would become today? Obviously since we all came from the same ancesters they must have all been the same cat sometime...right? So what happened there? Why do we need a jaguar?

Now, we have the spider, ant, potato bug, roach, what's the deal there? So they came from the same ancesters as the frog?

Hmmmm?

How'd we get the camel? And where are all those ...going to be the camel...at? And how do we explain the amazing hummingbird? Why do we have them?

Blake
03-17-2016, 09:10 AM
What current creature was the last to evolve into what we now see? Remember it's always been evolving.

False assumption. Your understanding of evolution is so bad.

But you've got it figured out the way you want, why waste time when there's a music YouTube out there for you to watch

Avante
03-17-2016, 10:32 AM
So all living things on earth can trace their ancesters back back back back to the same glob of goo at the bottom of the ocean....right?

Blake
03-17-2016, 10:53 AM
So all living things on earth can trace their ancesters back back back back to the same glob of goo at the bottom of the ocean....right?

What exactly is your theory.

Avante
03-17-2016, 11:09 AM
What exactly is your theory.

My theory is we will never really know how this all came about. As we all know science has been wrong so many times we can't really rely on that and the rest of us are clueless. So like religions we pick the one we like best.

To think we got all these totally different life forms from a common ancester is stupid. To think some al powerful being just....zap~~~ life.....is also pretty lame. Then we have....did Aliens.....hmmm? But that is no more far fetched than the other two.

Like you and everyone else I don't know how this came about.

Blake
03-17-2016, 11:19 AM
My theory is we will never really know how this all came about. As we all know science has been wrong so many times we can't really rely on that and the rest of us are clueless. So like religions we pick the one we like best.

To think we got all these totally different life forms from a common ancester is stupid. To think some al powerful being just....zap~~~ life.....is also pretty lame. Then we have....did Aliens.....hmmm? But that is no more far fetched than the other two.

Like you and everyone else I don't know how this came about.

So all three theories you have are lame? You really can't come up with a good one?

Haha so limited.

Avante
03-17-2016, 12:07 PM
How can anyone with even half a brain think this glob of goo on an ocean bottom, all of a sudden.........

ZAP~~~~ LIFE

They came from OUTER SPACE.


You got one?

RandomGuy
03-17-2016, 01:31 PM
How can anyone with even half a brain think this glob of goo on an ocean bottom, all of a sudden.........

ZAP~~~~ LIFE

They came from OUTER SPACE.


You got one?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

Avante
03-17-2016, 01:34 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

Bored with that.

Let's talk about you, so who do ya listen to and why? Favorite author?

Avante
03-17-2016, 02:21 PM
So what exactly was this glob of goo on the ocean bottom, where did it come from and why did it need to do anything?

So this glob of goo evolved into a shark, a whale, a jellyfish, a sea snail, a squid.....why?


Hmmmm?

Questions about life’s origin are as old as Genesis and as young as each new morning. For scientists, there are no definitive answers. But if no one has yet pinned down the secret, it hasn’t been for lack of trying. Those investigating the origin of life are a rambunctious, scrappy group, in which no two people see things quite the same way; and it doesn’t help that it’s awfully tough to prove or disprove any particular contention. After all, how can you really know what happened when Earth formed 4.6 billion years ago? Two things these scientists can agree on, however, are that the first kinds of life, whatever they were, must have been able to reproduce themselves and must have carried information.

Hmmmm?

by Jim Schicatano (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#author)

The earliest evidence of life on planet Earth may date as far back as 3.85 billion years ago.1 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#n01) At that time the first simple, single-celled organisms called "prokaryotes" may have appeared. The exact scientific process that led to the creation of prokaryotic life still eludes scientists today. Whether these early organisms metabolized energy through the process of photosynthesis (utilizing light) or by another method, such as chemosynthesis (utilizing chemicals), is also unknown.

The origin of life on planet Earth has long baffled the scientific community. Although many theories have been proposed, there is no consensus as to how life first originated on the Earth. Science believes that the Earth's early atmosphere consisted of gases such as methane, hydrogen, ammonia, and steam. These gases may have combined with electrical discharge from lightning (other energy sources are also possible) to produce organic compounds. Organic compounds, which include A group of 20 different kinds of small molecules that link together in long chains to form proteins. Often referred to as the "building blocks" of proteins.amino acids, are recognized as the building-blocks of life.

Scientists acknowledge that even simple single-celled organisms are far more complex than the organic compounds that could have been formed from the pre-biotic conditions of ancient Earth. Yet, the origin of life is believed to have begun from some similar natural process and progressed through many steps over the span of millions of years, until the first singled-celled life was created.

There are many scientific problems with this scenario, but the timing involved may prove most problematic. Before 3.8 billion years ago scientists believe that the Earth's surface was still in a state of considerable upheaval, as the last of the nebular debris bombarded the Earth. The appearance of life at that time is puzzling to many scientists, since it is not believed that the precursors of life could have survived such an inhospitable environment. Yet, life managed to make its appearance at the conclusion of that turbulent time and survive. This allows an almost a negligible time-frame for the building-blocks of life to progress naturally into living organisms.

The natural processes that scientists have theorized to explain the origin of life are far too complex to be explained here. But from a Biblical perspective all of these theories contradict the Biblical Genesis. If life can only propagate "according to their kinds" as proclaimed by the Bible, it would be unacceptable to embrace the concept of life arising from non-living matter. Even if the change occurring within each individual step of the transformation was so minuscule and so gradual that such steps could be argued as acceptable Biblical propagations, the overall transformation from lifeless matter to living creatures over time cannot be accepted.

And it goes on and on,.....


Nobody really knows, and it's obvious.

RandomGuy
03-17-2016, 02:51 PM
So what exactly was this glob of goo on the ocean bottom, where did it come from and why did it need to do anything?

So this glob of goo evolved into a shark, a whale, a jellyfish, a sea snail, a squid.....why?

[copy pasta, with no original thoughts omitted-RG].

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

Avante
03-17-2016, 02:54 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

It's time to start talking about you little guy.

So who do ya listen to and why?

Notice how all this midget wants to do is talk about others?

RandomGuy
03-17-2016, 04:00 PM
It's time to start talking about you little guy.

So who do ya listen to and why?

Notice how all this midget wants to do is talk about others?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

Avante
03-17-2016, 04:26 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

So what do ya do for a living slick? And, what hobbies do ya have?

RandomGuy
03-17-2016, 04:33 PM
So what do ya do for a living slick? And, what hobbies do ya have?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

Avante
03-17-2016, 04:50 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

Pretty sad little guy, no personality at all...none~!

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 08:25 AM
So what do ya do for a living slick? And, what hobbies do ya have?

To answer your question:

Arguing on the internet, reading, gaming.

Avante
03-18-2016, 10:29 AM
To answer your question:

Arguing on the internet, reading, gaming.

You do that for a living?

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 12:04 PM
You do that for a living?

That was the hobbies.

If you want to know what I do for a living, you could... check my profile.

Avante
03-18-2016, 12:20 PM
That was the hobbies.

If you want to know what I do for a living, you could... check my profile.

What, ya can't carry on a conversation? I'm a retired insurance salesmen, foreman at Land 0' lakes. I'm into track. football, literature, music.....freaky about my interests, have to know it all.

See how easy that is?

Blake
03-18-2016, 12:24 PM
What, ya can't carry on a conversation? I'm a retired insurance salesmen, foreman at Land 0' lakes. I'm into track. football, literature, music.....freaky about my interests, have to know it all.

See how easy that is?

Lol Land O Lakes

140
03-18-2016, 12:27 PM
Lol Land O Lakes

:lmao


what a sad little man

Avante
03-18-2016, 12:30 PM
Lol Land O Lakes



Land O'Lakes, Inc. is a member-owned agricultural cooperative (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Agricultural_cooperative) based in the Minneapolis-St. Paul (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Minneapolis-St._Paul) suburb of Arden Hills, Minnesota (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Arden_Hills,_Minnesota), focusing on the dairy (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Dairy) industry. The co-op (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Cooperative) states that it has about 3,600 direct producer-members, 1,000 member-cooperatives (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Cooperative), and about 10,000 employees who process and distribute products for about 300,000 agricultural producers;[1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-1) handling 12 billion pounds of milk annually.[2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2) It is ranked third on the National Cooperative Bank (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/National_Cooperative_Bank) Co-op 100 list of mutuals and cooperatives.[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-c100-3) The co-op is one of the largest producers of butter (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Butter) and cheese (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Cheese) in the United States.

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That's funny?

Avante
03-18-2016, 12:35 PM
:lmao


what a sad little man

21 years in the insurance biz, 12 years bossing people around and now making good $$$$$$$$$ just sitting here is........hahahahaha~!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stupid, after ya been in the insurance biz for 5 years ya lock up your renewals for life, now think ya dumb fuck, how much $$$$ do you think I make a year on old business renewals over 21 years, well?

Dude, I could sell ice cubes to Eskimos, trust me. A master at human nature, as we see here:king

Avante
03-18-2016, 02:25 PM
So we got the black man, okie, Mexican, Chinaman, Eskimo from the same batch of goo...hmmmmm?

clambake
03-18-2016, 02:31 PM
12 years old and rejected by 12 year olds.

fast forward 10 years......finally got your 12 year old.

Avante
03-18-2016, 02:48 PM
12 years old and rejected by 12 year olds.

fast forward 10 years......finally got your 12 year old.

So since you are in desperate need of Avante, you got him.

So just how did it all go down, go ahead break it down for me. So there we were about 4-6 of us walking into a bar in Olongapo, so what next...............well?

Blake
03-18-2016, 02:49 PM
So we got the black man, okie, Mexican, Chinaman, Eskimo from the same batch of goo...hmmmmm?

Sure, why not

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:01 PM
Sure, why not

But noway some Superior being could exist, right?

A glob of goo can give us a 7 foot black man, a 4 foot Asain. an okie, a fat Mexican and an Eskimo, but no way in hell, we could have a Superior Being, right?

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:03 PM
compared to you, we are superior beings.

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:03 PM
avante got one right.

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:07 PM
compared to you, we are superior beings.

Whatever.

So break it down for me little guy, ok? So we walk into a bar in Olongapo....now what? Come on half pint show us all ypu're not just some idiot troll, ok?

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:07 PM
Lol Land O Lakes

Ah man, no need to bash the butter. It is good, although the wife prefers falrurias.

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:09 PM
Whatever.

So break it down for me little guy, ok? So we walk into a bar in Olongapo....now what? Come on half pint show us all ypu're not just some idiot troll, ok?

superiors don't answer questions from bottom feeders.

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:09 PM
Ah man, no need to bash the butter. It is good, although the wife prefers falrurias.

The guy also laughs at parrot food, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:10 PM
superiors don't answer questions from bottom feeders.

So the superiors spend all their time here following the bottom feeders around, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:11 PM
So the superiors spend all their time here following the bottom feeders around, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

i can respond since that isn't a question.

nobody follows you around. you show up like a turd on the windshield.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:18 PM
What, ya can't carry on a conversation? I'm a retired insurance salesmen, foreman at Land 0' lakes. I'm into track. football, literature, music.....freaky about my interests, have to know it all.

See how easy that is?

It would have been just as easy to check my profile to find out I was an accountant. Did solvency audits of insurance carriers, now work for an MGA as an assistant controller and compliance guy. Was an intelligence analyst in the Army a while back. All jobs that require reading large amounts of information, analyzing that information for importance, and an ability to judge the sufficiency of evidence to support conclusions.

Someday when I retire I will either build clean water/energy systems in Africa/South Asia or volunteer my financial expertise to a private space company.

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:24 PM
i can respond since that isn't a question.

nobody follows you around. you show up like a turd on the windshield.

Well then let's do this. Let's see how much you don't follow me around starting right now, ok? And let's see how many times we talk unless you do.....ok?

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:28 PM
It would have been just as easy to check my profile to find out I was an accountant. Did solvency audits of insurance carriers, now work for an MGA as an assistant controller and compliance guy. Was an intelligence analyst in the Army a while back. All jobs that require reading large amounts of information, analyzing that information for importance, and an ability to judge the sufficiency of evidence to support conclusions.

Someday when I retire I will either build clean water/energy systems in Africa/South Asia or volunteer my financial expertise to a private space company.

I get this feeling you're pretty robotic, unless you are reading your notes ya really have no clue how interact with others. I can sense you are uneasy actually visiting with people, ya prefer to preach crap at them.

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:29 PM
Well then let's do this. Let's see how much you don't follow me around starting right now, ok? And lert's see how many time we talk unless you do.....ok?

you still don't understand the superior being stuff.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:30 PM
So what exactly was this glob of goo on the ocean bottom, where did it come from and why did it need to do anything?

So this glob of goo evolved into a shark, a whale, a jellyfish, a sea snail, a squid.....why?


Hmmmm?
[mindless copy pasta omitted-RG]

The natural processes that scientists have theorized to explain the origin of life are far too complex to be explained here. But from a Biblical perspective all of these theories contradict the Biblical Genesis. If life can only propagate "according to their kinds" as proclaimed by the Bible, it would be unacceptable to embrace the concept of life arising from non-living matter. Even if the change occurring within each individual step of the transformation was so minuscule and so gradual that such steps could be argued as acceptable Biblical propagations, the overall transformation from lifeless matter to living creatures over time cannot be accepted.

And it goes on and on,.....


Nobody really knows, and it's obvious.

Actually we do know, once again, going back to the OP.

Your thread, your topic.

And one where you continually prove you don't understand the topic itself.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=221&p=8480601&viewfull=1#post8480601

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:30 PM
I get this feeling you're pretty robotic, unless you are reading your notes ya really have no clue how interact with others. I can sense you are uneasy actually visiting with people, ya prefer to preach crap at them.

:sleep

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:31 PM
I get this feeling you're pretty robotic, unless you are reading your notes ya really have no clue how interact with others. I can sense you are uneasy actually visiting with people, ya prefer to preach crap at them.

he's only like that to you.

its about that superior being stuff that you'll never get.

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:31 PM
you still don't understand the superior being stuff.

See as I told you yep, ya follow me around....why?

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:31 PM
you still don't understand the superior being stuff.

Add that to the list.

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:32 PM
he's only like that to you.

its about that superior being stuff that you'll never get.

Dude, flip the record over, ok? Yep...yawn~~~~~~~~

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:33 PM
:sleep

See there it is right there, unless ya can preach all that silly crap of yours ya have no idea how to act.

johnsmith
03-18-2016, 03:37 PM
I get this feeling you're pretty robotic, unless you are reading your notes ya really have no clue how interact with others. I can sense you are uneasy actually visiting with people, ya prefer to preach crap at them.

It's awesome how far off base and wrong you are regarding RG. I love it!!!

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:37 PM
Let's start with a few bits of data supporting the theory of evolution.

One important thing for evolution to take place is simply time. The initial steps from unicellular prokaryotes to eukaryotes took a while. If evolution is to be proven, you first have to have sufficient time for the race to begin.

First up: geology.
Lithologic Stratigraphy

The Earth’s crust has layers. Some of these layers are from the decomposition of sediment, others come from chemical precipitation, others from decaying organic matter, and others from volcanic lava. The reason we can see the layers is because they were formed in different ways.
http://ideonexus.com/2012/02/12/101-reasons-why-evolution-is-true/


Lithostratigraphy is a sub-discipline of stratigraphy, the geological science associated with the study of strata or rock layers. Major focuses include geochronology, comparative geology, and petrology. In general a stratum will be primarily igneous or sedimentary relating to how the rock was formed.

Sedimentary layers are laid down by deposition of sediment associated with weathering processes, decaying organic matters (biogenic) or through chemical precipitation. These layers are distinguishable as having many fossils and are important for the study of biostratigraphy. Igneous layers are either plutonic or volcanic in character depending upon the cooling rate of the rock. These layers are generally devoid of fossils and represent intrusions and volcanic activity that occurred over the geologic history of the area.

There are a number of principles that are used to explain the appearance of stratum. When an igneous rock cuts across a formation of sedimentary rock, then we can say that the igneous intrusion is younger than the sedimentary rock. The principle of superposition states that a sedimentary rock layer in a tectonically undisturbed stratum is younger than the one beneath and older than the one above it. The principle of original horizontality states that the deposition of sediments occurs as essentially horizontal beds.

Fancy way of saying that dirt has layers. Some of which are the result of different processes.

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2010/09/strata1.jpg

Step from this to figuring out how long it took for these various layers to form.

Here we rely on first on the law of superposition. Oldest layers will be deeper than newer layers.

To begin to accept evolution as true, you need to have evidence of this. Fairly easy. Just dig a lot, and see what turns up.

You start with easy things, such as human settlements of long-lived cities. London is a good example, Rome another.

Seems common sense enough, but I can provide a few scientific papers if anybody wants, but the basics were laid down as early as the 1600's for modern consideration of fossils by a gentleman who simply asked how a solid such as a fossil, could end up inside another solid, such as a layer of rock.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/steno.html

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:38 PM
For all the supposed evidence for transitional fossils, that terribly made 2 minute video with cheesy music is the best you guys can do ? Seriously ?

Well, let's first determine what a "transitional fossil" is. Defining terms is an important thing in science, and any attempt to understand any topic.

Easy enough to start with wikipedia:

A transitional fossil is any fossilized remains of a life form that exhibits traits common to both an ancestral group and its derived descendant group.

Basically, for evolution to be true, one should be able to show, generally, how groups of animals changed over time.

This is generally done by using the above noted Law of Superposition.

Evolution, as a workable theory, predicts that if you have a fossil of an animal in any given layer or era, you should be able to dig down to previous layers, and locate the ancestors for that species grouping.

Archaeopteryx being one of the most commonly presented examples. We have modern birds, that we had always suspected came from dinosaurs. Digging down we find a dinosaur with bird-like traits, below any examples of the first birds.

Whales are another good example of how evolution predicts things that we eventually found. Whales, dolphins, and porpoises, are air breathing mammals, relatively recently emerged.

For evolution to be true, we would expect that these animals would have had to come from animals that lived on land. Further, we would know approximately *when* these animals would have to have existed, simply by observing the oldest whale fossils we could find and theorizing that their ancestors came before.

After a lot of research, we finally discovered the first candidates in the early 80's, and in the mid 90's enough other specimens were found for a reasonable consensus about where whales probably came from to emerge:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/images/evograms/paki_ambulo.png

Further reading could be had here:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:38 PM
Here I will pause, and note a common logical flaw in many peoples reasoning;

Moving the goalposts.

Logical fallacy[edit]

Moving the goalposts, similar to "shifting sands" and also known as raising the bar, is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.[3] The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the end result is changed, too.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

Or if you prefer, a better presented form of this flawed argument here:

M
OVING THE GOALPOSTS
(also known as: gravity game, raising the bar, argument by demanding impossible perfection [form of])

Description: Demanding from an opponent that he or she address more and more points after the initial counter-argument has been satisfied refusing to conceded or accept the opponent’s argument.

Logical Form:

Issue A has been raised, and adequately answered.
Issue B is then raised, and adequately answered.
.....
Issue Z is then raised, and adequately answered.
(despite all issues adequately answered, the opponent refuses to conceded or accept the argument.
Example #1:

Ken: There has to be an objective morality because otherwise terms like “right” and “wrong” would be meaningless, since they have no foundation for comparison.
Rob: The terms “right” and “wrong” are based on cultural norms, which do have a subjective foundation -- one that changes as the moral sphere of the culture changes. The term “heavy” does not have an objective standard, yet we have no problem using that term in a meaningful way. In fact, very few relational terms have any kind of objective foundation.
Ken: But without an objective morality, we would all be lost morally as a race.
Rob: Many would say that we are.
Ken: But how can you say that torturing children for fun is morally acceptable in any situation?
Rob: Personally, I wouldn’t, but you are implying that anything that is not objective must necessarily be seen in all possible ways. A feather may not be seen as “heavy” to anyone, but that doesn’t mean its “lightness” is still not relative to other objects.
Ken: But God is the standard of objective morality. Prove that wrong!
Rob: That I cannot do.
Explanation: Ken starts with a statement explaining why he thinks there has to be an objective morality -- a statement based on a reasonable argument that can be pursued with reason and logic. Rob adequately answers that objection, as indicated by Ken’s move away from that objection to a new objection. This pattern continues until we arrive at an impossible request. Despite all the objections being adequately answered, at no time does Ken concede any points or abandon the argument.

Example #2: Perhaps the most classic example of this fallacy is the argument for the existence of God. Due to understanding of nature through science, many of the arguments that used to be used for God (or gods) were abandoned, only to be replaced with new ones, usually involving questions to which science has not definitively answered yet. The move from creationism to intelligent design is a prime example. Currently the origin of life is a popular argument for God (although a classic argument from ignorance), and an area where we very well may have a scientific answer in the next decade, at which time, the “origin of life” argument will fade away and be replaced by another, thus moving the figurative goalposts farther back as our understanding of the natural world increases.

The common application of this flawed line of reasoning is to insist on the impossible proof that every single transitional form be presented before evolution is "proved".

This is neither feasible, nor required to accept something as true.

Take this series of numbers for example:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, (X), 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, ...

We can deduce what "X" is, even if we don't know with an absolute certainty what comes after 14 in the series, simply by forming a hypothesis that the rule governing the set is "add one to the number on the left".

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:39 PM
There is no end to this....


So – the big questions are: does variety show that life-forms are changing from one kind into another? Or does variety have a limit?

There are only two ways to find out!



First, do we see Evolution happening today or do we see that life-forms have limits in their variety?
Second, if Evolution is true, the fossil record of the past should show millions of examples of transitional fossils.

On the other hand, if Evolution is not true, the fossil record should show that life-forms in the past had limits to their variety also.

This means a REAL transitional form would not be a “variety”. Instead, these life-forms should show a major structure that is clearly changing.

In other words – if rodents became bats we should see some strange rodent with super long fingers. Why? Because bats have fingers longer than their bodies that they use as wings.

The truth is the only possible transitional fossils Evolutionists bring up are not convincing – even to other Evolutionists. There are some interesting mosaic creatures like the platypus and the walrus in the world. But the platypus and the walrus are complete within their own kind. They are not transitional forms. If Creation is what really happened in the past, this is what we would expect to find in the fossil record. (3)

http://origin.arstechnica.com/journals/science.media/ancientBat.jpg


When people think of mammals, bats are probably not the first animals to come to mind, yet they account for roughly a fifth of current mammal species. They simply have so many specialized features—large ears and echolocation, radically extended forelimb bones, skin flaps connecting their limbs—that they seem quite removed from what we view as a typical mammal. A new fossil find from Wyoming, described in this week's edition of Nature, sheds light on the origin of many of these features.

As you can see at right, the fossil is astonishingly well preserved. It comes from deposits that date to about 52.5 million years ago, a time when many mammalian groups were expanding, possibly in response to the environmental changes associated with the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. The species has been named Onychonycteris finneyi, meaning "clawed bat" and honoring its discoverer, Bonnie Finney.

The clawed bat part refers to one of the many intermediate features that make Onychonycteris the most primitive bat species ever described. In all current and prior fossil species of bats, most of the digits in the wing lack the claws typical of mammalian digits. That's not the case here: all Onychonycteris digits end in claws. The hind limbs are also unusually long, as is the tail, but the limb contains a feature that suggests the presence of a skin flap between the hind limbs and the body.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2008/02/earliest-bat-fossil-reveals-transition-to-flight/

Asked for, and given.

The creationist response: move the goal posts. "but you can't find...."

Every single time a predicted transitional form is found that fills in yet another gap, this is what happens.

Dig into it.

Transitional forms predicted by evolution have been, and continue to be found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_transitional_fossils

Modern taxonomy and phylogeny, fully support evolution, and provide clues and predictions of all manner of transitional forms.

One of the strongest ways in which the evidence for evolution becomes overwhelming is when you find a theory's predictions being borne out in multiple lines of evidence.

If one wants to read up on this aspect of how the study of genetics supports the predictions of evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html

Not only does it tell you why something is true, it shows you how to determine for yourself, independently of what any scientist tells you.

johnsmith
03-18-2016, 03:39 PM
Someday when I retire I will either build clean water/energy systems in Africa/South Asia or volunteer my financial expertise to a private space company.

Lol.... That makes no damn Sense to Avante because his retirement revolves completely around this website! Lol

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:43 PM
FIFY. If we are actually an entirely separate organism from apes, why are we as horny, violent, and tribal as them? Why is our anatomy so similar?

All good questions.

Also good, and really supportive of evolution:

Why is one of our chromosomes fused?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2_(human)

Really hard to explain that away for Avante et al.

If "because it was designed that way" is the answer, then why would such a designer purposefully make it look like it was an evolutionary accident, perfectly explained by the theory of evolution?

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:43 PM
Lol.... That makes no damn Sense to Avante because his retirement revolves completely around this website! Lol

As all you do here is search Avante out.....why? Dude, why you sooooooooooooooooooooo damn worried about Avante, it's actually weird.

clambake
03-18-2016, 03:46 PM
we just say whatever we think will keep you here.

save the children and what not.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:46 PM
Lol.... That makes no damn Sense to Avante because his retirement revolves completely around this website! Lol

My time here involves being on hold and pointless conference calls. Current project has lots of both. :( I have become a connoisseur of hold music. I swear if I have to listen to one more vivaldi concerto... fuck. Still better than the elevator music.

johnsmith
03-18-2016, 03:47 PM
As all you do here is search Avante out.....why? Dude, why you sooooooooooooooooooooo damn worried about Avante, it's actually weird.

It's not very hard to find you so I certainly wouldn't call it "searching".....and trust me, it's far less weird than wasting your golden years on the Internet with the "super cool posting foursome club" you're in....LOL!!!!!

Avante
03-18-2016, 03:47 PM
http://arstechnica.com/science/2008/02/earliest-bat-fossil-reveals-transition-to-flight/[/URL]

Asked for, and given.

The creationist response: move the goal posts. "but you can't find...."

Every single time a predicted transitional form is found that fills in yet another gap, this is what happens.

Dig into it.

Transitional forms predicted by evolution have been, and continue to be found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_transitional_fossils

Modern taxonomy and phylogeny, fully support evolution, and provide clues and predictions of all manner of transitional forms.

One of the strongest ways in which the evidence for evolution becomes overwhelming is when you find a theory's predictions being borne out in multiple lines of evidence.

If one wants to read up on this aspect of how the study of genetics supports the predictions of evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html

Not only does it tell you why something is true, it shows you how to determine for yourself, independently of what any scientist tells you.

You talk about critical thinking, right? Do you really think anyone has ever read all that crap, well? Nobody reads that shit and you don't know that? Where is all that critical thinking at, well?

Like I mentioned ya can't interact with others, all ya do is that shit, that's sad guy.

johnsmith
03-18-2016, 03:51 PM
You talk about critical thinking, right? Do you really think anyone has ever read all that crap, well? Nobody reads that shit and you don't know that? Where is all that critical thinking at, well?

Like I mentioned ya can't interact with others, all ya do is that shit, that's sad guy.

Lol....bruh, when you post more than two sentences, I'm willing to bet my paycheck that maybe 5% of people on here read your drivel.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:51 PM
You talk about critical thinking, right? Do you really think anyone has ever read all that crap, well? Nobody reads that shit and you don't know that? Where is all that critical thinking at, well?

Like I mentioned ya can't interact with others, all ya do is that shit, that's sad guy.

I know most people won't. Creationists, like you, are far too lazy to read it. My expectations of you are about as low as it is possible to get.

I however, like to argue this because it interests me. I read it. All.

Over the last 20 years I have read quite a bit, because debunking bullshit takes genuine understanding.

Being mentally weak on the other hand... is easy, as you so readily demonstrate.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:53 PM
Occasionally, just occasionally, someone who is curious, and not lazy, take the time to read up.

That right there, is enough.

I get to learn things, and the satisfaction of cutting through the clutter every once in blue moon. Win/win from my point of view.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:54 PM
Lol....bruh, when you post more than two sentences, I'm willing to bet my paycheck that maybe 5% of people on here read your drivel.

No one does.

Most of his posts, especially here are simply to keep the thread going, because it is some sad source of self-esteem.

RandomGuy
03-18-2016, 03:56 PM
See there it is right there, unless ya can preach all that silly crap of yours ya have no idea how to act.

:sleep

Avante
03-18-2016, 04:15 PM
Lol....bruh, when you post more than two sentences, I'm willing to bet my paycheck that maybe 5% of people on here read your drivel.

That drivel that apparentlly has you spellbound? Dude, who do you talk to the most when you show up here..well?

Avante
03-18-2016, 04:16 PM
:sleep

Bingo~~~~~~~~

You have no clue what to do, do ya?

Blake
03-18-2016, 04:19 PM
But noway some Superior being could exist, right?

A glob of goo can give us a 7 foot black man, a 4 foot Asain. an okie, a fat Mexican and an Eskimo, but no way in hell, we could have a Superior Being, right?

Who created the superior being

Avante
03-18-2016, 04:26 PM
Who created the superior being

Do you ever just answer a question? Let's try something totally unique and ground breaking, ok? Answer my question....BEFORE...asking one, you can do it little man, honest.

I can see why she dumped ya amigo.

johnsmith
03-18-2016, 06:14 PM
That drivel that apparentlly has you spellbound? Dude, who do you talk to the most when you show up here..well?

Lol....you're mistaking laughing at you and making fun of you for "talking to you".

You're really depressing me about retirement bruh....why not get out of the house and off the computer nerd?

Avante
03-18-2016, 06:18 PM
Lol....you're mistaking laughing at you and making fun of you for "talking to you".

You're really depressing me about retirement bruh....why not get out of the house and off the computer nerd?

Well lets see, here you are once again ...laughing/poking fun/making fun....of Avante. You really have nothing better to do than that? That interests you? Why? And, you do it everry single tiime ya show up here....right? So why do you find Avante so intriquing, and don't play stupid, why do worry so much about Avante....well?

The botom line is you're a little asshole and love to be one. Don't try to hide it, ok?

johnsmith
03-18-2016, 06:20 PM
Well lets see, here you are once again ...laughing/poking fun/making fun....of Avante. You really have nothing better to do than that? That interests you? Why? And, you do it everry single tiime ya show up here....right? So why do you find Avante so intriquing, and don't play stupid, why do worry so much about Avante....welll?

Not worried....you're just a clown put on this Earth for people like me to laugh at.


LOL!!!! It's your special purpose clown! Lol

Avante
03-18-2016, 06:22 PM
Not worried....you're just a clown put on this Earth for people like me to laugh at.


LOL!!!! It's your special purpose clown! Lol

So you need Avante for your entertainment, now how sad is that? I'm the best you can do? Wow~~~~~~~~~~~

Didn't you post a long list of things I need to stop doing? But I'm your entertainment, that make any sense to you...well? Explain how that works, ok?

Avante
03-18-2016, 06:56 PM
Speaking of the insurance business.......

If you go looking for an agent that's a lot different than a salesman at your door( me), here you will be dealing with desperation. These guys must make a sale, most being on a strict commission, usually 37%. Yep, self employed, so there is pressure. To spend an hour or more at a families dinner table and then be told....nope, it's devastaing. You wasted valuable time and yes time is $$$$ in that biz.

During the day ya ride around trying to set up appointments, ya never wanting to waste time with just her or him, all they will do is..."let me talk to him/her"...yep, ya wasted valuable time. So ya do all ya can to get them together before going into your presentation. So ya try to set up three appointments a night. 6-7-8...ish. You will close two of three, if you aren't hitting that %, you're in the wrong business.

I had the Bakersfield to Fresno region, the big bummer...fog.

It was very interesting, made great $$$$$ and know every road between Bakersfield and Fresno.

Blake
03-18-2016, 08:26 PM
Do you ever just answer a question? Let's try something totally unique and ground breaking, ok? Answer my question....BEFORE...asking one, you can do it little man, honest.

I can see why she dumped ya amigo.

It's logic. It's the basic question if you claim complexity requires a creator.

Since the creator itself is complex, it therefore requires a creator

And on and on.

Dumb ass.

Avante
03-18-2016, 09:05 PM
It's logic. It's the basic question if you claim complexity requires a creator.

Since the creator itself is complex, it therefore requires a creator

And on and on.

Dumb ass.


Wrong as usual.

Why does the Supreme Being need a creator? Obviously this is something far beyond our limitations. So why does it need our limitations? Hasn't time always been here, wasn't there always that giant void out there, well just add a Supreme Being.

It's funny watching you little man, it's.....oh yeah dumb ass...as if ya just have to always play the prick, why?

And....Nick Chubb averaged,....hahahaha!!! and "you" calling anyone dumb ass.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blake
03-19-2016, 08:29 PM
Wrong as usual.

Why does the Supreme Being need a creator?

Why do we?

Avante
03-19-2016, 08:44 PM
Why do we?

Do you ever answer a question, amazing~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Blake
03-19-2016, 08:51 PM
Do you ever answer a question, amazing~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You can make up whatever you want. If your invisible god theory says nobody created god, that's fine, but then it's just as plausible to say nobody created life either.

~O~
03-19-2016, 09:23 PM
Religion is the most consistent business and long lasting business. Shits everywhere.

Avante
03-19-2016, 11:04 PM
You can make up whatever you want. If your invisible god theory says nobody created god, that's fine, but then it's just as plausible to say nobody created life either.

So you really think all this just ...poof...the perfect distance from the sun, the rotation of the earth at the perfect speed, gravity so we don't fall off, just happened.....right? The sperm and the egg.....just happened. The seasons just happened...right? All these things having to function in perfect concert.....just happened, right?

We cannot see our thoughts, our dreams, we can't see our emotions. Yet we do have thoughts, dreams and emotions. You are way too wrapped in this child like..."but I can't see it". Dude, you have about as much depth as a thimble. Think about this a little deeper than.."nope, can't see it"......hahaha!!!!

Time has always been there, nothing created it. That big black void housing the stars and planets had no beginning and will have no end. So cool all your jr high....."but, if ya can't see it".....:rolleyes

Avante
03-20-2016, 12:41 PM
So I stop at this yardsale yesterday, had to wait a few minutes before the lady running the thing....

lady..sorry I'm late, I'm from Texas.
Avante...(thinking..haha~~~)...never been there.
lady....we got big hogs running wild.
Avante...(thinking....WTF)....how about Armadillos?
lady....yep, we eat them.
Avante....any mountains in Texas? (pointing at the mighty Sierra Nevada's about an hour away)
lady...nothing like those, I been sick.
Avante...(thinking....Ha~~~)...so, what was the problem?
lady...stomach problems, lot of gas.
Avante...(thinking.....hahaha~~~~~~~)...sorry to hear that.
lady...you from Porterville?
Avante...nope, Visalia. Moved here about 30 years ago, met my wife here.
lady...I grew up in Waco, just visiting.
Avante....so how much for that box of books? (westerns, Luke Short, Max Brand, J.T.Edson etc)
lady....brought those from Texas, not sure why.
Avante....five for a buck?
lady....how about two bucks for all of them?
Avante..deal. (so I pay her and grab the box of books ) Ok, well nice meeting you.
lady....I like your truck.
Avante....thank you, see ya~~~~~~~~~


Love that harmonica.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_on-i8ml4


the perfect mix....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3L7Jy-LwY8


rollin'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOZWUTo-e18

Blake
03-20-2016, 02:31 PM
So you really think all this just ...poof...the perfect distance from the sun, the rotation of the earth at the perfect speed, gravity so we don't fall off, just happened.....right? The sperm and the egg.....just happened. The seasons just happened...right? All these things having to function in perfect concert.....just happened, right?

We cannot see our thoughts, our dreams, we can't see our emotions. Yet we do have thoughts, dreams and emotions. You are way too wrapped in this child like..."but I can't see it". Dude, you have about as much depth as a thimble. Think about this a little deeper than.."nope, can't see it"......hahaha!!!!

Time has always been there, nothing created it. That big black void housing the stars and planets had no beginning and will have no end. So cool all your jr high....."but, if ya can't see it".....:rolleyes

Those all seem incredible coincidences to person with a limited grasp of things, so therefore you need a super creator to fill the gaps in your logic.

I could ask a bunch of opposite questions, like why this tiny speck of a speck in a little corner of a speck of a speck galaxy among billions of other galaxies? If the earth is 3/4 water, why can't we breathe under it? Why do we need food? Why do we have to take craps? And so on.

But answer this: if your super alien created humans just as they are today, why do we only have written history in the last several thousand years?

There should be evidence of humans living millions of years ago.

But there's not.

Avante
03-20-2016, 02:38 PM
I could ask a bunch of opposite questions, like why this tiny speck of a speck in a little corner of a speck of a speck galaxy among billions of other galaxies? If the earth is 3/4 water, why can't we breathe under it? Why do we need food? Why do we have to take craps? And so on.

But if your super alien created humans just as they are today, why do we only have written history in the last several thousand years?
There should be evidence of humans living millions of years ago.

But there's not.

My God, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

Blake, are you capable of just answering a question? Dude, answer what I asked, ok?

Sheesh~~~~~~~

stranger on the street.....excuse me sir but can ya tell me which way is it to the Fairmont?
Blake....so you're new here, huh?
stranger....yep, so which way?
Blake...so where ya from?
stranger....huh?...ah....Oregon, so which way?
Blake...I've been to Portland
stranger....:depressed

Blake
03-20-2016, 03:16 PM
My God, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

Blake, are you capable of just answering a question? Dude, answer what I asked, ok?

Sheesh~~~~~~~

stranger on the street.....excuse me sir but can ya tell me which way is it to the Fairmont?
Blake....so you're new here, huh?
stranger....yep, so which way?
Blake...so where ya from?
stranger....huh?...ah....Oregon, so which way?
Blake...I've been to Portland
stranger....:depressed

You really need me to answer the obvious?

Yes it's possible all those things you mentioned "just happened".

Now answer my non obvious question that you're avoiding:
why do we have written history that goes back just a few thousand years when the earth has been here for millions.

Man "just happened" to decide to write history 6 thousand years ago?

Avante
03-20-2016, 03:26 PM
You really need me to answer the obvious?

Yes it's possible all those things you mentioned "just happened".

Now answer my non obvious question that you're avoiding:
why do we have written history that goes back just a few thousand years when the earth has been here for millions.

Man "just happened" to decide to write history 6 thousand years ago?

I need you to be rational and take into consideration the odds of all the things it takes to make this work.....just happening. We need the oxygen in the sir, the nutrients from the ground, the right temp, so all that .....just happened.....really? So gravity just happened....right? Being the perfect distance from the sun, just happened, right? The sperm and the egg, just happened....really?

You take any of those componets away and we couldn't sustain life (as we know it) on this planet. Sure looks like some master design to me, ya know, the farmer grows the hay (nutrients in the grown) for his cow to eat, here come the milk for us to consume and.....................................
How about going into detail about how that would be possible, love to see it. Then we'll move on to your questions about man.

Blake
03-20-2016, 03:42 PM
I need you to be rational and take into considerastion the odds of all the things it takes to make this work.....just happening. We need the oxygen in the sir, the nutrients from the ground, the right temp, so all that .....just happened.....really? So gravity just happened....right?

How about going into detail about how that would be possible, love to see it. Then we'll move on to your questions about man.


I don't know how it happened exactly. Nobody really does. The odds are insane to win the powerball lottery, but someone wins.

If the building blocks of life have always existed in outer space, then in an infinite universe that's constantly moving, sooner or later something like comets flying around carrying DNA is bound to crash into planets or moons that can sustain life.

It's also possible that there's a super infinite alien out there that createn all this.

The difference that you're too stupid to understand is that the super alien just "poofing" humans into existence is not likely at all. The imaginary super alien using Evolution is much more probable a theory with all we've observed so far.

Avante
03-20-2016, 03:49 PM
I don't know how it happened exactly. Nobody really does. The odds are insane to win the powerball lottery, but someone wins.

If the building blocks of life have always existed in outer space, then in an infinite universe that's constantly moving, sooner or later something like comets flying around carrying DNA is bound to crash into planets or moons that can sustain life.

It's also possible that there's a super infinite alien out there that createn all this.

The difference that you're too stupid to understand is that the super alien just "poofing" humans into existence is not likely at all. Evolution us much more probable a theory with all we've observed so far.

I'll be damn....

You....FINALLY....got one right, yep.....nobody knows.

BRAVO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have never said or implied we have a God (like the Bible) with His Adam and Eve, that never happened. But we did have some lower life forms similiar to humans that were put on this eath by some Supreme Something. Yes they evolved into what we are today as did other life forms that were put here. Yes we had evolution, just not fishies into elephants, hoiw stu-p[id can something be?

Blake
03-20-2016, 04:05 PM
I'll be damn....

You....FINALLY....got one right, yep.....nobody knows.

BRAVO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have never said or implied we have a God (like the Bible) with His Adam and Eve, that never happened. But we did have some lower life forms similiar to humans that were put on this eath by some Supreme Something. Yes they evolved into what we are today as did other life forms that were put here. Yes we had evolution, just not fishies into elephants, hoiw stu-p[id can something be?

Hey dumb fuck.

Read the part you wrote that says "nobody knows" right before you say "but we were put here by a supreme being" and try to figure out why you're a retarded piece of shit.

Avante
03-20-2016, 04:13 PM
Hey dumb fuck.

Read the part you wrote that says "nobody knows" right before you say "but we were put here by a supreme being" and try to figure out why you're a retarded piece of shit.

Ya feel pretty stupid now don't ya little guy, so here ya come doing your usual..."Avante made me look stupid....again".....hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

That's right ya dumb fuck...NBOBODY KNOWS. But like you/everyone we all have our little thing, obviously that is mine.

Here ya go one nut.


In 1953 Stanley Miller performed an experiment which rocked the world! He showed that passing a spark through a chosen mixture of gasses will form amino acids, the building blocks of proteins which are the main ingredients of living cells. Given an inch, a mile was taken. We were taught that lightning strikes provided the sparks that formed the amino acids which concentrated in an “organic soup,” and linked together to form proteins. These were claimed to have gotten together with DNA to form the first living cell.


But amino acids will not link together to form proteins! It was a bit like claiming that if bricks formed in nature they would get together to build houses. Proteins are so hard to make that in all of nature, they never form except in already living cells. Never! This scientific fact stands in stark contrast to what was taught.


Which viewpoint is best supported by the evidence? Did life begin without a Creator or did God create it? Evidence that life never comes from non-living materials is so abundant that it is a basic principle of science called the Principle of Biogenesis (living things come only from living things). Atheists and many agnostics have faith that contrary to this basic principle of science, life did evolve spontaneously from chemicals at least once. They now call their theory “abiogenesis” which comes from roots that mean “not Biogenesis.” They no longer use the term “spontaneous generation.”

Is abiogenesis possible? Not only are proteins never formed in nature outside of living cells, the amino acids from which they are built are of two kinds: Half are called left-handed and half right-handed. Only proteins containing all left handed amino acids will work in living things because proteins which contain any right-handed amino acids have the wrong shape and will not connect properly to the proteins around them. It is a bit like when you take a piece out of a puzzle, turn it upside down and try to put it back in where you took it out. It is the same size and shape, but it won’t fit. In nature, all left handed amino acids are only formed by living cells. Amino acids formed in experiments like Miller’s, are half left, and half right-handed so they will not work in the proteins of living things. This is more scientific evidence that life could not form without a Creator. Add it to the fact that in nature, no proteins at all will form outside of cells.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That is why I take the stance I do on this, now just what was/is that Creator/God/MasterDesigner, yep.....NOBODY KNOWS. So us humans make shit up trying to explain who/what is responsibe for all this. While dummies like you really think gobly gook at the botton of some pool or ocean.,...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Blake
03-20-2016, 04:34 PM
So nobody knows what happened except that we had to be created.

I can't help you any more. You're too stupid.

Avante
03-20-2016, 04:39 PM
So nobody knows what happened except that we had to be created.

I'm dumb for wasting a few seconds typing posts about this to you. You're too stupid to get how stupid you are.

I'll go slow...

NOBODY KNOWS.....who the creator was and how it all actually went down, ok ya dumb fuck?

And why not actually read why I take this stance, ok dummy?

Dummy, how about your take on what I showed you, ok little man?

Blake
03-20-2016, 04:42 PM
NOBODY KNOWS.....who the creator was and how it all actually went down, ok ya dumb fuck?


Dummy you don't know if there is a creator at all. Nobody knows.

Avante
03-20-2016, 04:45 PM
Dummy you don't know if there is a creator at all. Nobody knows.

Blake, read what I showed you and point out why he was wrong, ok?

Stop being so fucking lazy, ok? Being a lazy asshole must suck.

So where was he wrong, well?

Avante
03-20-2016, 06:39 PM
So there was the earth void of any animal life, then one day..............well?

And....so there were the oceans just vast amounts of water without any living creatures present, then one day..........well?

Blake
03-20-2016, 07:09 PM
Blake, read what I showed you and point out why he was wrong, ok?

Stop being so fucking lazy, ok? Being a lazy asshole must suck.

So where was he wrong, well?

He's assuming the only other alternative to god is life springing up from nothing.

You and he are both too limited and stupid to come up with more than two options to human existence.

Blake
03-20-2016, 07:12 PM
When are you going to answer my question regarding written history?

Oh right, never. It's okay tho because you're content on staying limited to two options and ignoring peer reviewed scientific research on evolution. No skin off my back.

Avante
03-21-2016, 02:04 AM
He's assuming the only other alternative to god is life springing up from nothing.

You and he are both too limited and stupid to come up with more than two options to human existence.

So where was he wrong at little guy? Tell me what he said that was wrong, well?

Blake, stupid is this....Nick Chubb averaged...... hahahaha!!!!!!!! Dude, what in the hell was that about,,,huh?

Avante
03-21-2016, 02:08 AM
When are you going to answer my question regarding written history?

Oh right, never. It's okay tho because you're content on staying limited to two options and ignoring peer reviewed scientific research on evolution. No skin off my back.

Wrong as you always are.

What does written history have to do with some primitive creatures that would evolve into the human we see today, well?

Yes, we did start out as that caveman we know about, we were just never some little fishie,ok?

Avante
03-21-2016, 02:24 AM
Since it's a constant topic for conversation, let's at least get it right, ok?

I was a sailor, not a soldier...ok?

I was over there from 69-72, I was 19-22, ok?

While some 16 year olds might have snuck by, this talk of any younger is beyond stupid, keep in mind the drinking age was 18 and these girls had to have work permits. All this stuff about young kids is about the brotels and street walkers, not the bars (when I was there). I hung out in the bars, love to dance.

Now think just a little bit, don't you think it would look funny sitting at the bar with a 12/13 year old drinking....well? What could you talk about with a kid? And, don't you think your buddies would be...."dude, she is just a kid, what's wrong with you?"....hell yes they would have. And you always ran in packs.

So why ya act stupid/retarded about this....???

I was 6-2 around 240 pounds back then, I needed a big woman (for them) so I looked for just that, a full grown woman with experience. A dancer like me.

ONE MORE TIME

If I had walked by a guy who was messing with some kid I would have told the sick fuck to cool it, if he gave me any shit I'd beat this sicko to a pulp. that is my stance on that sick shit.

Is it possible one of those I thought was older was only 16, sure. But that is not looking for kids like some sick ass pedo does, and if I found out yes that did happen it would bug the hell out of me as I said the first time I ever talked about this.

What's funny is that all of you who get off on this all had a granny or a great granny who was only 15/16 and pregnant, and all of you would have done what we all did and ya know it. What young guy ......me get pussy, oh hell no......yep, none~~~~

Avante
03-21-2016, 02:47 AM
One of the truly great sounds in musicdom.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4frjxVMNLc

Blake
03-21-2016, 08:22 AM
So where was he wrong at little guy? Tell me what he said that was wrong, well?

Blake, stupid is this....Nick Chubb averaged...... hahahaha!!!!!!!! Dude, what in the hell was that about,,,huh?

Your biased Christian article/chain mail is wrong in assuming abiogenesis is impossible. It's just not been proven possible yet.

You're too lazy and stupid to understand that tho. Now run back to your comfort zone of hahahahas and youtubes you stupid fat caveman.

RandomGuy
03-21-2016, 10:04 AM
Bingo~~~~~~~~

You have no clue what to do, do ya?

:sleep

RandomGuy
03-21-2016, 10:05 AM
Who created the superior being

We did.

Our imaginations are powerful things.

RandomGuy
03-21-2016, 10:09 AM
Ok then, what would you expect to find in terms of evidence were this theory to be true?

This is where repeating a definition ends, and understanding begins.


read the books on the evolution thing, ok?


"I've read books" isn't an answer to the question.

If you truly understood the theory, and were not mentally weak, you could easily answer the question.

...

Again 2nd time:
What would you expect to find in terms of evidence were [the theory of evolution] true?


All I know about the theory of evolution is what I read in a book. What the book was wrong?


The issue is not what you read in a book. It is whether you actually understand what you read. I do not know what book you are talking about, so I cannot speak to your question, which I can only guess is to deflect the conversation from your ignorance, or if you prefer, "mental weakness".

*If* you understood what you read to any depth, you should be able to easily answer the question, it is [I]very basic. All I have to do to prove my point that you don't understand the theory you criticize is simply show you unable/unwilling to answer the question.

3rd time:
What would you expect to find in terms of evidence were [the theory of evolution] true?


Understand what? All life forms evolved from a previous lower life forms, wow, complex.

So you can't actually demonstrate any understanding. All you can do is simply repeat a definition that you may nor may not ultimately understand. I figure three chances to answer an easy question is enough for anyone.


I guess it is easy to see who is "mentally weak" then.

QED

Avante
03-21-2016, 11:50 AM
Your biased Christian article/chain mail is wrong in assuming abiogenesis is impossible. It's just not been proven possible yet.

You're too lazy and stupid to understand that tho. Now run back to your comfort zone of hahahahas and youtubes you stupid fat caveman.

Well as of right now it is impossible, right? Damn you're dumb, wow~~~~~~~~~

Dude, tell me again about what a frosh RB averaged in...one...game, hahaha~~~~~~~ That has gotta be the dumbest thing I've seen on this board and Clipper Nation posts here.

Avante
03-21-2016, 11:52 AM
:sleep

Actually conversing with others is a struggle for you isn't it?

Avante
03-21-2016, 11:55 AM
So you can't actually demonstrate any understanding. All you can do is simply repeat a definition that you may nor may not ultimately understand. I figure three chances to answer an easy question is enough for anyone.


I guess it is easy to see who is "mentally weak" then.

QED

Do I really have to school you on a dozen topics you know nothing at all about to show just how "mentally weak" you are, well?

You get off on evolution, I don't. That's about interest, ok?

Blake
03-21-2016, 12:07 PM
Well as of right now it is impossible, right? Damn you're dumb, wow~~~~~~~~~

No, as of right now we don't know. Damn you're retarded.



Ja, tell me again about what a frosh RB averaged in...one...game, hahaha~~~~~~~ That has gotta be the dumbest thing I've seen on this board and Clipper Nation posts here.

Yeah, you gave Chubb the patented Avante Curse that game. It's what you do. Your failures at predictions are hilarious.

Blake
03-21-2016, 12:10 PM
Do I really have to school you on a dozen topics you know nothing at all about to show just how "mentally weak" you are, well?

Making almanac lists involves no brain use, dummy.

Your inability to recognize and use logic is what makes you a 90lb mental midget.

Avante
03-21-2016, 12:13 PM
No, as of right now we don't know. Damn you're retarded.



Yeah, you gave Chubb the patented Avante Curse that game. It's what you do. Your failures at predictions are hilarious.

Wrong as usual, no little one it is impossible.

Let's see plus 3000 in my ATS picks last two seasons, nailed Derrick Henry, nailed Nick Chubb, nailed Russell Wilson. Are you ever right?

Avante
03-21-2016, 12:17 PM
Making almanac lists involves no brain use, dummy.

Your inability to recognize and use logic is what makes you a 90lb mental midget.

Ya mean like breaking down an ATS play using stats,trends and historical data? Wanna talk sprinting and the importance of speed endurance?

I can hang with you on anything,that's for damn sure.

Blake
03-21-2016, 12:18 PM
Wrong as usual, no little one it is impossible.


Fuck, you're not even able to understand the word "impossible"

60lb weakling. I could sneeze and blow you over.

Avante
03-21-2016, 12:22 PM
Fuck, you're not even able to understand the word "impossible"

60lb weakling. I could sneeze and blow you over.

Wrong ...AGAIN~~~~~~~ It is impossible slugger, just like you ever getting anything right.

Little man, I could school you on Texas Tech football, that's how big a mismatch this is.

Avante
03-22-2016, 02:13 AM
So it's....

Aliens from outer space.

A MasterDesigner

Littie fishies crawling out of oceans/pools..why?

Hmmmm?

Avante
03-22-2016, 02:54 AM
Aren't you guys tired of this ridiculous pedo bullshit by now? Is it really that interesting? I was just a kid in a bar, big fucking deal. I can.."ya shoot fucking sick ass............. but it's boring. Come on, let's move on from something that happened some 45 years ago, ya reckon:rolleyes

This was one of my fav back then.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQUCYl-ocs

Avante
03-22-2016, 04:26 AM
Wow~~~~~~



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYajHZ4QUVM

RandomGuy
03-22-2016, 07:32 AM
Ya feel pretty stupid now don't ya little guy, so here ya come doing your usual..."Avante made me look stupid....again".....hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

That's right ya dumb fuck...NBOBODY KNOWS. But like you/everyone we all have our little thing, obviously that is mine.

Here ya go one nut.


In 1953 Stanley Miller performed an experiment which rocked the world! He showed that passing a spark through a chosen mixture of gasses will form amino acids, the building blocks of proteins which are the main ingredients of living cells. Given an inch, a mile was taken. We were taught that lightning strikes provided the sparks that formed the amino acids which concentrated in an “organic soup,” and linked together to form proteins. These were claimed to have gotten together with DNA to form the first living cell.


But amino acids will not link together to form proteins! It was a bit like claiming that if bricks formed in nature they would get together to build houses. Proteins are so hard to make that in all of nature, they never form except in already living cells. Never! This scientific fact stands in stark contrast to what was taught.


Which viewpoint is best supported by the evidence? Did life begin without a Creator or did God create it? Evidence that life never comes from non-living materials is so abundant that it is a basic principle of science called the Principle of Biogenesis (living things come only from living things). Atheists and many agnostics have faith that contrary to this basic principle of science, life did evolve spontaneously from chemicals at least once. They now call their theory “abiogenesis” which comes from roots that mean “not Biogenesis.” They no longer use the term “spontaneous generation.”

Is abiogenesis possible? Not only are proteins never formed in nature outside of living cells, the amino acids from which they are built are of two kinds: Half are called left-handed and half right-handed. Only proteins containing all left handed amino acids will work in living things because proteins which contain any right-handed amino acids have the wrong shape and will not connect properly to the proteins around them. It is a bit like when you take a piece out of a puzzle, turn it upside down and try to put it back in where you took it out. It is the same size and shape, but it won’t fit. In nature, all left handed amino acids are only formed by living cells. Amino acids formed in experiments like Miller’s, are half left, and half right-handed so they will not work in the proteins of living things. This is more scientific evidence that life could not form without a Creator. Add it to the fact that in nature, no proteins at all will form outside of cells.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That is why I take the stance I do on this, now just what was/is that Creator/God/MasterDesigner, yep.....NOBODY KNOWS. So us humans make shit up trying to explain who/what is responsibe for all this. While dummies like you really think gobly gook at the botton of some pool or ocean.,...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

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Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

Abiogenesis is not evolution

That said, even your copy-pasta is factually incorrect.

"But amino acids will not link together to form proteins!"

They will, and do.

Professor Michael Blaber and his team produced data supporting the idea that 10 amino acids believed to exist on Earth around 4 billion years ago were capable of forming foldable proteins in a high-salt (halophile) environment. Such proteins would have been capable of providing metabolic activity for the first living organisms to emerge on the planet between 3.5 and 3.9 billion years ago.

The results of Blaber's three-year study, which was built around investigative techniques that took more than 17 years to develop, are published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130405064027.htm


So, to sum up:
1) You can't distinguish between two different theories,
2) you don't understand what evolution is, and
3) your ignorance leads you to repeatedly post shit that is easily debunked by the thinnest of google searches.


It's almost as if you don't care what is true or not. Maybe you will try telling me all about chemtrails next?

RandomGuy
03-22-2016, 07:34 AM
Do I really have to school you on a dozen topics you know nothing at all about to show just how "mentally weak" you are, well?

You get off on evolution, I don't. That's about interest, ok?

Your thread. Your OP.