Evolution...?

[Avante]

You can take most of the credit. Thanks for allowing us to make fun of you being incredibly stupid for 200 pages. :tu

So you are totally unaware of the fact I'm in the majority of people while you're in the minority right stupid?

How many people on this planet right now worship some God? Well? How many think we came from a fish, well?

You're the stupid one Blake as you always are.

Try learning something ya fucking idiot.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8qhm3KgHIw


Now, how can anyone not get what is being said there? Think about it stupid, everything has to be perfect to sustain life and......it is~! DNA totally destroys evolition as far as the fish silliness goes. But let me guess you're too dumb to get that.

Yes, I don't buy the Biblical stuff talked about, but do buy a MasterDesign. Thee is no away at all DNA came about on it's own, yep....impossible.

[Blake]

So you are totally unaware of the fact I'm in the majority of people while you're in the minority right stupid?

How many people on this planet right now worship some God? Well? How many think we came from a fish, well?

You're the stupid one Blake as you always are.

Try learning something ya fucking idiot.

no, I'm your intellectual superior here, so I'll do you a favor and teach you a lesson that others have tried to teach you but obviously failed.

"Appealing to the majority" is a logical fallacy. "Logical fallacy" means that the logic you're using really really sucks.

Here's the logical fallacy you keep using over and over and over and over and this explains why it suuuuucccccks:


APPEAL TO COMMON BELIEF

argumentum ad populum
(also known as: ....appeal to the majority....

Description:*
When the claim that most or many people in general or of a particular group accept a belief as true is presented as evidence for the claim. Accepting another person’s belief, or many people’s beliefs, without demanding evidence as to why that person accepts the belief, is lazy thinking and a dangerous way to accept information.

Logical Form:
A lot of people believe X.
Therefore, X must be true.

Example #1:
Up until the late 16th century, most people believed that the earth was the center of the universe.*

This, of course, is not true.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/23-appeal-to-common-belief

Even though this is very clear cut why it's dumb to "appeal to the majority", I bet you'll use it again. Because it's been explained to you before yet you used it again.

Because seriously, you're stupid.

[Avante]

no, I'm your intellectual superior here, so I'll do you a favor and teach you a lesson that others have tried to teach you but obviously failed.

"Appealing to the majority" is a logical fallacy. "Logical fallacy" means that the logic you're using really really sucks.

Here's the logical fallacy you keep using over and over and over and over and this explains why it suuuuucccccks:



Even though this is very clear cut why it's dumb to "appeal to the majority", I bet you'll use it again. Because it's been explained to you before yet you used it again.

Because seriously, you're stupid.

So you didn't watch the video and once again resort to your" Blakes retarded" bit. Blake, you gotta be the dumbest fuck I encounter on these boards, dude ya don't know anything, wow~~~~~~~~~~

Watch the video ya lazy fuck,ok?

[Blake]

So you didn't watch the video and once again resort to your" Blakes retarded" bit. Blake, you gotta be the dumbest fuck I encounter on these boards, dude ya don't know anything, wow~~~~~~~~~~

Watch the video ya lazy fuck,ok?

you want me to watch a video titled "honest science proves evolution impossible"

Pick up an honest science book and read it, ya stupid lazy fuck, ok?

[Avante]

you want me to watch a video titled "honest science proves evolution impossible"

Pick up an honest science book and read it, ya stupid lazy fuck, ok?

I HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...as I've only mentioned a dozen times. What did I read...

chances are
we are led to believe
there could be
just maybe

..ok? Stop trying to act like there are any concrete facts involved with evolution, ok dummy?

So you'll spend all day here fucking with people but you can't watch the first 15 minutes of that video, fucking lazy bitch.

[Avante]

Ever notice how important it is to all these... non believers/EVOLUTION... that others agree with them? I'm guessing they know that out in the real world if they tried to be as bombastic as we see here it would be.."look dummy, I don't care how stupid you are, now beat it".

Most people have some God because it soothes their mind. As far as evolution goes, while it's obvious things evolve over time, we can't trace everything back to......................a fish.

[Blake]

Ever notice how important it is to all these... non believers/EVOLUTION... that others agree with them?

says old fart that started this thread and has twice as many posts as anyone else in it

[Avante]

says old fart that started this thread and has twice as many posts as anyone else in it

I'll try again.....

Check out that video and you'll see why I don't buy evolution as far as tracking it back to fish goes. The first 15 minutes, ok?

[Blake]

I'll try again.....

Check out that video and you'll see why I don't buy evolution as far as tracking it back to fish goes. The first 15 minutes, ok?

30 seconds in they say "....scientists call this "irreducible complexity". Christian buffoon Michael Behe is the one that came up with that term. No objective scientist uses it.

I googled the hosts name and it comes back to "In God We Trust" productions

http://www.ingodwetrustprod.com/

You're falling for hokey YouTube bullshit because you're lazy and stupid.

You should read an unbiased college science book. But you won't. Because you're lazy and fucking stupid.

[Avante]

30 seconds in they say "....scientists call this "irreducible complexity". Christian buffoon Michael Behe is the one that came up with that term. No objective scientist uses it.

I googled the hosts name and it comes back to "In God We Trust" productions

http://www.ingodwetrustprod.com/

You're falling for hokey YouTube bullshit because you're lazy and stupid.

You should read an unbiased college science book. But you won't. Because you're lazy and fucking stupid.

Are you simply retarded? A guy who can rattle off every 1000 yard rusher in NFL history..BY COLLEGES...is lazy? A guy who can rattle off every sub 10.20 sprinter to play in the NFL..BY COLLEGES.. is lazy?

Dude, haha!!!!!!!!!!

ONE MORE TIME....

I HAVE READ UP ON EVOLUTION...ok shorty? So tell me guy how much do we see there that are stone cold...FACTS!!!!!!!!....well?

Pay attention moron....

That video talks about the impossibilty of DNA without a creator, ok? So there goes the cat to fish bullshit.

[Blake]

You read up on it though hokey YouTube that has soothing music and pretty pictures of waterfalls.

You're so stupid.

[Avante]

You read up on it though hokey YouTube that has soothing music and pretty pictures of waterfalls.

You're so stupid.

So you actually believe DNA could have came about by chance right? Do you have any idea at all the complexities involved there?

Imagine a computer just coming about by chance. This is no different. It has been proven DNA had to have been designed, there is no doubt. So what does that tell you? Let me guess you're too damn retarded to grasp the concept, right?

[phyzik]

So you actually believe DNA could have came about by chance right? Do you have any idea at all the complexities involved there?

Imagine a computer just coming about by chance. This is no different. It has been proven DNA had to have been designed, there is no doubt. So what does that tell you? Let me guess you're too damn retarded to grasp the concept, right?

It has NOT been proven that DNA is by design.... In fact, it has been proven to be a biological byproduct of natural selection. Quit making bullshit lies to fit your beliefs. Pulling shit out of your ass is just that... Shit.

[Avante]

Dean Kenyon, a biology professor who repudiated his earlier book on Darwinian evolution—mostly due to the discoveries of the information found in DNA—states: “This new realm of molecular genetics (is) where we see the most compelling evidence of design on the Earth” (ibid., p. 221).
Just recently, one of the world's most famous atheists, Professor Antony Flew, admitted he couldn't explain how DNA was created and developed through evolution. He now accepts the need for an intelligent source to have been involved in the making of the DNA code.
“What I think the DNA material has done is show that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinary diverse elements together,” he said (quoted by Richard Ostling, “Leading Atheist Now Believes in God,” Associated Press report, Dec. 9, 2004).

[mouse]

It has NOT been proven that DNA is by design.... In fact, it has been proven to be a biological byproduct of natural selection. Quit making bullshit lies to fit your beliefs. Pulling shit out of your ass is just that... Shit.

Where arr you getting this misguided info?

[Blake]

So you actually believe DNA could have came about by chance right? Do you have any idea at all the complexities involved there?

Imagine a computer just coming about by chance. This is no different. It has been proven DNA had to have been designed, there is no doubt. So what does that tell you? Let me guess you're too damn retarded to grasp the concept, right?

Or imagine a print shop exploding and the ink and paper all fell together perfectly into a complete encyclopedia set!

You're so stupid.

[Koolaid_Man]

Or imagine a print shop exploding and the ink and paper all fell together perfectly into a complete encyclopedia set!

You're so stupid.


I hate to agree with a pedo.:lol .but NO Blake you're the stupid fucking...i mean absolutely stupid fucking moron here..to suggest the intricacies of the human brain, heart, eye balls, etc are the design of random elements being fused together over trillions of years.....lets check this off...

We need to hear....check evolution got us covered with ears to hear.....
We need to see......check evolution got us covered with eyes......
We need to taste....check evolution got us covered with a tongue....
We need to walk..check evolution got us covered with legs and feet....
We need to work....check evolution got us covered with arms and hands...
We need to breathe...check evolution got us covered with lungs and a nose...
We need to pump blood check....evolution got us covered with a heart, veins, arteries...
We need to process the meaning of it all check.....evolution got us covered with a brain..
We need process food...check..evolution got us covered with intestines and a digestive system....
We need to reproduce to sustain this thing..check evolution got us covered with 2 different genders one carrying a penis the other a vagina....one carrying sperm the other eggs to be fertilized.....
We need to feel.....check evolution makes sex feel good so that we want to reproduce....
We need to protect all these organs...check...evolution got us covered with skin.....

We need idiots....check evolution made those who beleive in random selection as opposed to common sense creation beyond our physical dimension....:lol

[Blake]

Ok genius, who created the creator

[Blake]

I HAVE READ UP ON EVOLUTION...ok shorty? So tell me guy how much do we see there that are stone cold...FACTS!!!!!!!!....well?

Pay attention moron....

That video talks about the impossibilty of DNA without a creator, ok? So there goes the cat to fish bullshit.

watch a legitimate video, not some hokey low budget YouTube if you really want to learn:


How did your body become the complicated, quirky, amazing machine it is today? Anatomist Neil Shubin uncovers the answers in this new look at human evolution. Using fossils, embryos and genes, he reveals how our bodies are the legacy of ancient fish, reptiles and primates — the ancestors you never knew were in your family tree. The three-part series premiered April 9, 2014....

http://video.pbs.org/program/your-inner-fish/

even though you're not gonna watch it, you can't say nobody has yet to answer your question.

[Avante]

Ok genius, who created the creator

Blake, what gets me about you is where in the world do you get this "I smart/you not smart" silliness from? Blake, I'm dead serious you are not smart , ok? You are a moron and we all see it, ok guy? So cool that bullshit, ok?

You have any idea at all how many things I could totally take you to school on? Huh, do ya? You are limited, I'm not.

[Blake]

Blake, what gets me about you is where in the world do you get this "I smart/you not smart" silliness from? Blake, I'm dead serious you are not smart , ok? You are a moron and we all see it, ok guy? So cool that bullshit, ok?

You have any idea at all how many things I could totally take you to school on? Huh, do ya? You are limited, I'm not.

No, I'm smarter than you, and you know it.

Who created the creator, smart guy?

[Avante]

No, I'm smarter than you, and you know it.

Who created the creator, smart guy?

This is why you're stupid. One example.

Avante..keep an eye on Nick Cubb, a freshman RB at Georgia. Going to be special.

Ok, now an intelligent person sees that word....FRESHMAN...ok Blake? Now think, how many seasons will he have to fulfill that greatness or bomb out? So ya bide your time, if ya need to play critic, and see what happens.

Oh no not your dumbass.

Very next game...

Blake the idiot...oh yeah, well he only averages..... hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As if ..one...game means shxt, ha~~~~~~ And you wanna talk smarts?

Blake we both know I'm far more knowledgeable about this old world than you are. I could school your dumb ass on a multitude of topics, what can you school me on....well?

You're a fucking moron asshole, ok?

Talk to me bout...

George "Little Chocolate" Dixon who is said to have hsd 800 fights.

Ramblin' Thomas a 1920's Texas bluesman.

Olaf Stapeldon sci fi author.

HBCU track & field.

Div III football.

Auburn running backs in the NFL.

Caribbean sprinters.

The origins of Soul, Jazz, R&B, Rap, Punk, Blues, Rockabillie, British rock, etc ertc.

The black author in literature.

Sergio Olivia and bodybuilding.

The silent movie.

Outlaws of the old west.

History of the Mafia.

Oh yeah, ya can't:rolleyes

[Avante]

Usain Bolt will bail out of the 200m. he know he got a little lucky.

Why chance it?

[Blake]

When the discussion gets too tough to comprehend, stupid people have to sidestep and go to their comfort zones

[Koolaid_Man]

Ok genius, who created the creator

Speaking of Kool being a genius.....how bout I answer your question against the backdrop of that primordial soup or pot of boiling gumbo that produced humans theory you believe in...:lol


Who created God? I can answer that in 2 ways...

1.) No one....he's exists in a different dimension beyond the big bang....a spirit force that has no time dimensions.... incomprehensible to a physical human brain limited to the confines of planet earth. Similiar to humans having no credible science to explain something as simple as to how gas giants planets / stars are formed. Similiar to the internet making sense to an ant.

2.) I dont know but not knowing and having faith sure beats the hell out of believing we got mixed into a gumbo pot hotter than the sun and presto out came humans, animals of different species, all with the same basic anatomical structure and balance of eyes, ears, nose, organs, and blood, all with delicate DNA structures and able to reproduce.....my position is reasonable yours is not. :lol

[Blake]

Speaking of Kool being a genius.....how bout I answer your question against the backdrop of that primordial soup or pot of boiling gumbo that produced humans theory you believe in...:lol


Who created God? I can answer that in 2 ways...

1.) No one....he's exists in a different dimension beyond the big bang....a spirit force that has no time dimensions.... incomprehensible to a physical human brain limited to the confines of planet earth. Similiar to humans having no credible science to explain something as simple as to how gas giants planets / stars are formed. Similiar to the internet making sense to an ant.

2.) I dont know but not knowing and having faith sure beats the hell out of believing we got mixed into a gumbo pot hotter than the sun and presto out came humans, animals of different species, all with the same basic anatomical structure and balance of eyes, ears, nose, organs, and blood, all with delicate DNA structures and able to reproduce.....my position is reasonable yours is not. :lol


I can easier say that the building blocks of life have always been around in the universe than to crate a story of a magic man from another dimension that got bored one day and whipped up a new universe with the only known life on a speck of speck planet in a speck galaxy among billions of other galaxies

[Koolaid_Man]

I can easier say that the building blocks of life have always been around in the universe than to crate a story of a magic man from another dimension that got bored one day and whipped up a new universe with the only known life on a speck of speck planet in a speck galaxy among billions of other galaxies


Sure you can..still doesnt make your gumbo theory more reasonable thsn mine...I ethered you in my last post and your response is not worthy....let it go Blake and admit my position is more reasonable or continue playing the fool...your decision bro....:lol

[Blake]

Sure you can..still doesnt make your gumbo theory more reasonable thsn mine...I ethered you in my last post and your response is not worthy....let it go Blake and admit my position is more reasonable or continue playing the fool...your decision bro....:lol

Your theory is less reasonable because it's a self defeating paradox bro

[Avante]

When the discussion gets too tough to comprehend, stupid people have to sidestep and go to their comfort zones

Are you kidding me? Dude, I thought you knew me better than that.

[Avante]

So...BIG BANG!!!!!!!!!!...little fishies waddling out of the abyss, gave us DNA, the T-Rex, the butterfly.

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

How could anyone buy that stupidity?

[clambake]

anyone that confuses indoctrination with the existence of god should "buy that"

[Blake]

Are you kidding me? Dude, I thought you knew me better than that.

I know making lists is your go-to move when the discussion starts going over your head. Because you're unintelligent.

[Blake]

So...BIG BANG!!!!!!!!!!...little fishies waddling out of the abyss, gave us DNA, the T-Rex, the butterfly.

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

How could anyone buy that stupidity?

says old fart that believes in a magic man from another dimension

[Avante]

I know making lists is your go-to move when the discussion starts going over your head. Because you're unintelligent.

Thinking little fishies became dinosaurs is over my head, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not just admit you are very limited, hell guy we all see it.

[Avante]

says old fart that believes in a magic man from another dimension

Dumb as a rock aren't ya moron.

Now think stupid, could ancient man explain how that old sun just hangs up there, well? Now think ya fucking idiot, ok?

Where was the cell phone 100 years ago?

Blake, you gotta be the dumbest fuck I encounter on these boards, ya don't know shit.

[Avante]

Speaking of pro rassling.

The great tagteams

The Roadwarriors
The Grahams...first WWWF Champs
Nick Bockwinkle & Ray Stevens
Dick the Brusier & Crusher Lisowski
The Fabulous Kangaroos
The Fantastics
The Freebirds
The Midnight Rockers
The Rock & Roll Express
The Neilsons
The Von Brauners
The Hart Foundation
The Sharpes
Scufflin' Hillbillies
The Assasins

[Blake]

Thinking little fishies became dinosaurs is over my head, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not just admit you are very limited, hell guy we all see it.

Evolution is way over your head. You know it, that's why you run back to your comfort zone. Your almanac is your Linus blanket.

Run away, coward. RUN.

[Avante]

Evolution is way over your head. You know it, that's why you run back to your comfort zone. Your almanac is your Linus blanket.

Run away, coward. RUN.

So I can read War & Peace and then knock out all of Homers works and then Asimov's stuff but evolution is over my head...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got a question for ya Blake.

Just what were you actually thinking by...."Chubb averages"......? Did you honestly think one game in a freshman career meant something, you really that stupid?

Now don't ignore this, ok? What were you thinking there? Talk to me.

[Blake]

So I can read War & Peace and then knock out all of Homers works and then Asimov's stuff but evolution is over my head...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got a question for ya Blake.

Just what were you actually thinking by...."Chubb averages"......? Did you honestly think one game in a freshman career meant something, you really that stupid?

Now don't ignore this, ok? What were you thinking there? Talk to me.

The topic is evolution, coward.

Run, fat man, run. Run far far away from it

[RandomGuy]

So I can read War & Peace and then knock out all of Homers works and then Asimov's stuff but evolution is over my head...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got a question for ya Blake.

Just what were you actually thinking by...."Chubb averages"......? Did you honestly think one game in a freshman career meant something, you really that stupid?

Now don't ignore this, ok? What were you thinking there? Talk to me.

I was in the smart, but lazy camp, but you are starting to change my mind about that. Nothing you have ever said about evolution has reflected any more than the most rudimentary, childishly simplified understanding.

My 7th grader understands the theory better than you seem to, sorry. Kind of hard for you to credibly say you understand it when all you do is copy pasta.

[Avante]

The topic is evolution, coward.

Run, fat man, run. Run far far away from it

So how about answering my question Blake, ok?

[Avante]

I was in the smart, but lazy camp, but you are starting to change my mind about that. Nothing you have ever said about evolution has reflected any more than the most rudimentary, childishly simplified understanding.

My 7th grader understands the theory better than you seem to, sorry. Kind of hard for you to credibly say you understand it when all you do is copy pasta.

Ever dawn on ya that it's boring?

[Blake]

So how about answering my question Blake, ok?

no, I'm here to discuss evolution because this is an evolution thread, fat man.

But keep dodging, ducking and RUN from the topic, coward. RUN.

[Blake]

Ever dawn on ya that it's boring?

Then why'd you ask about it, dummy?

[Avante]

no, I'm here to discuss evolution because this is an evolution thread, fat man.

But keep dodging, ducking and RUN from the topic, coward. RUN.

You wanna talk to me and as we can see you do everyday and often, anwser my question.

You actually thought...ONE..game in a frosh season meant something, you really this fucking stupid? You do know what his season ended up looking like....right?

[Blake]

You wanna talk to me and as we can see you do everyday and often, anwser my question.

You actually thought...ONE..game in a frosh season meant something, you really this fucking stupid? You do know what his season ended up looking like....right?

Brave Sir Robin

[Avante]

Brave Sir Robin

I'll try again....

Hey Blake if I were to tell you this frosh back out of Serra HS here in Cali named Revey Scott was going to set the college football world on it's ear. Would you once again in his first game..."oh yeah, well he only averaged"...like some dumbass kid? Well?

[Blake]

I'll try again....

Hey Blake if I were to tell you this frosh back out of Serra HS here in Cali named Revey Scott was going to set the college football world on it's ear. Would you once again in his first game..."oh yeah, well he only averaged"...like some dumbass kid? Well?

You'll try again and again and again because you're an unintelligent, lazy coward.

[Avante]

You'll try again and again and again because you're an unintelligent, lazy coward.

I'm trying again becuse you're a fucking idiot doing a very stupid thing. Did you really think the guy was only going to play....one...game, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you ever ever ever ever answer a question?

Answer my question or you're back on ignore, got it fucker?

[Blake]

I'm trying again becuse you're a fucking idiot doing a very stupid thing. Did you really think the guy was only going to play....one...game, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you ever ever ever ever answer a question?

Answer my question or you're back on ignore, got it fucker?

I've asked you the same question a number of times that you're too cowardly to answer.

stay on topic and answer the question "who created the creator" or be called a huge cowardly pussy. Got it fat fuck?

[Avante]

See ya after the Superbowl, adios~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Blake]

Doubtful you'll restrain yourself that long, but ok cowardly pussy.

[apalisoc_9]

.

Where is the DNA evidence that there is progression?

[apalisoc_9]

Avante STFU.

You make everyone that doesn't believe in Evolution 100% look retarded.

[RandomGuy]

Where is the DNA evidence that there is progression?

Hmm, it might be helpful if you would expand a bit by what you mean when you say "progression".

One thing to bear in mind is that, despite what one might see in movies, there is nothing that we are evolving towards. Evolution, at a very basic level is just about change. The accumulation of those changes over time interacting with the environment causes the evolution that we see in the fossile record.

The only thing that comes out (progresses?) of the process really is that things that make organisms more likely to survive to reproduce are kept. That can be the addition, change in, or even the deletion of a gene.

Somewhere in our evolution, our ancestors lost a lot of genes in the make up of our eyes, because our ancestors were apparently nocternal. Our current eyes are actually rather clumsy from an engineering standpoint because of that.

I would also note, that DNA is not a permanent thing. It is a long chain organic molecule that will break down over about 50,000 years or so, once it becomes inert in a dead cell, even under the most ideal of conditions.

What we can do, and have done, is look at "living fossils", or surviving species of much earlier eras, and sequenced those genes to compare them to what came after those organisms.

We have also, especially since we have started sequencing whole genomes, really begun to crack the specific coding that gets turned into form and substance at the level of organisms. We do this by looking at the available fossils, and using anatomical comparisons, such as the addition or delection of an organ or appendage.

The evidence of things evolving and changing over time is buried in there, and even if we don't have DNA from 100 million years ago, we can still see the fingerprints of various changes over time in the echos of modern organisms.

One good example is that humans have one less pair of chromosomes than other primates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee_genome_project

Ordinarily, the loss of an entire genome (i.e. gene deletion) is fatal. If evolution were not true, that is not a problem, i.e. we were made that way.

Evolutionary theory, though, would predict that the most likely cause is fusion of two chromosomes. The material is still there, it just is all in one place.

That prediction was borne out when we started sequencing the genes of humans, and comparing them to our closes cousins, chimpanzees.

Hope that helps a bit. I was guessing at what you mean by "progression", so if that didn't answer your question exactly, expand on it a bit, and I will try again.

[RandomGuy]

Here is a bit on "living fossils":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_fossil


These types of organisms are often held up by people eager to prove some creating diety.

"look, if we are really evolving, why are these ancient things still alive, shouldn't they have evolved?"

The answer to that relates somewhat to your question. If a creature is well adapted to its environment, it will stick around, unless something comes along that out competes it.

Evolution does not posit that things can't remain unchanged. These creatures probably had groups splinter off due to some changes, but are still around through sheer chance, with the odds stacked in their favor by being well-adapted.

This hits on another common misconception:

Evolution is NOT fully random. Mutations, a part of the process are random, but natural selection is not. Natural selection will act in ways that reduce randomness, by selecting out bad things, and encouraging good things (bad and good from a reproducibility standpoint).

Anyhoo, lunch is over. Thanks for reading, hope it provided a bit of clarity. If you want some more links to stuff to read to expand on this, I will be happy to do a bit of legwork.

[Avante]

Avante STFU.

You make everyone that doesn't believe in Evolution 100% look retarded.

How's that and be specific.

[Avante]

Why the butterfly?

[Blake]

How's that and be specific.

Rofl, retard.

[Avante]

Here is a bit on "living fossils":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_fossil


These types of organisms are often held up by people eager to prove some creating diety.

"look, if we are really evolving, why are these ancient things still alive, shouldn't they have evolved?"

The answer to that relates somewhat to your question. If a creature is well adapted to its environment, it will stick around, unless something comes along that out competes it.

Evolution does not posit that things can't remain unchanged. These creatures probably had groups splinter off due to some changes, but are still around through sheer chance, with the odds stacked in their favor by being well-adapted.

This hits on another common misconception:

Evolution is NOT fully random. Mutations, a part of the process are random, but natural selection is not. Natural selection will act in ways that reduce randomness, by selecting out bad things, and encouraging good things (bad and good from a reproducibility standpoint).

Anyhoo, lunch is over. Thanks for reading, hope it provided a bit of clarity. If you want some more links to stuff to read to expand on this, I will be happy to do a bit of legwork.

So you totally ignore the DNA situation, right?

[RandomGuy]

So you totally ignore the DNA situation, right?

I believe I addressed what I thought he was meaning in a previous post. What do you think didn't get addressed? Try to be as specific as you can, if you think something got ignored.

[Avante]

I believe I addressed what I thought he was meaning in a previous post. What do you think didn't get addressed?

Well according to everything I've read/videos you haven't a clue.

[RandomGuy]

Well according to everything I've read/videos you haven't a clue.

So, you are going to plead lazy on this too?

Shocker.

All I asked is for you to expend a bit of effort explaining something in your own words, so I can answer. Apparently that is too much? Really?

Again, I will ask:

What exactly do you think I am ignoring? Kind of hard to criticize someone for not reading minds, innit?

[Avante]

So, you are going to plead lazy on this too?

Shocker.

All I asked is for you to expend a bit of effort explaining something in your own words, so I can answer. Apparently that is too much? Really?

Again, I will ask:

What exactly do you think I am ignoring? Kind of hard to criticize someone for not reading minds, innit?

I;m not going to try and search out where it's at, ok? You played off DNA as if it didn't take a Designer. How can anyone believe that?

Where did something that complex originate?

[spurraider21]

Well according to everything I've read/videos you haven't a clue.
your problem is you believe some 8 minute long youtube clips can substitute years of formal education

[Avante]

your problem is you believe some 8 minute long youtube clips can substitute years of formal education

Well actually I have no problem. Show me anything that points towards DNA coming about by chance. Come on, show me. DNA had to be engineered, and it's real obvious, only a fool wouldn't see that.

[Blake]

Well actually I have no problem. Show me anything that points towards DNA coming about by chance. Come on, show me. DNA had to be engineered, and it's real obvious, only a fool wouldn't see that.

Pick up a science book, retard.

[RandomGuy]

I;m not going to try and search out where it's at, ok? You played off DNA as if it didn't take a Designer. How can anyone believe that?

Where did something that complex originate?

Where did a creator that complex originate?

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Logic fail.

[RandomGuy]

So you totally ignore the DNA situation, right?


I believe I addressed what I thought he was meaning in a previous post. What do you think didn't get addressed? Try to be as specific as you can, if you think something got ignored.


Well according to everything I've read/videos you haven't a clue.


...

Again, I will ask:

What exactly do you think I am ignoring? Kind of hard to criticize someone for not reading minds, innit?


I;m not going to try and search out where it's at, ok?

I'm not asking you to research anything.

I am asking you to explain what you think isn't being addressed.

Still not sure whether you are being too lazy to type it, or not intelligent enough to understand the question.

At this point, I am leaning both.

[RandomGuy]

Well actually I have no problem. Show me anything that points towards DNA coming about by chance. Come on, show me. DNA had to be engineered, and it's real obvious, only a fool wouldn't see that.

Another fucking retarded logical fail.


Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule

Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.

Description of Appeal to Ridicule

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:

X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"

Ok, I'm with Blake, you are a fucking idiot. I have pointed out this particular bit of stupidity over and over, yet you keep licking it back up like a dog to his vomit, and throwing up back here as if you proved anything other than your inability to grasp simple concepts.

[RandomGuy]

DNA had to be engineered


Fallacy: Burden of Proof

Includes: Appeal to Ignorance ("Ad Ignorantiam")

Description of Burden of Proof

Burden of Proof is a fallacy in which the burden of proof is placed on the wrong side. Another version occurs when a lack of evidence for side A is taken to be evidence for side B in cases in which the burden of proof actually rests on side B. A common name for this is an Appeal to Ignorance. This sort of reasoning typically has the following form:

Claim X is presented by side A and the burden of proof actually rests on side B.
Side B claims that X is false because there is no proof for X.
In many situations, one side has the burden of proof resting on it. This side is obligated to provide evidence for its position. The claim of the other side, the one that does not bear the burden of proof, is assumed to be true unless proven otherwise.

In this case, the burden of proof lies on someone who says:

"it had to be a creator"

"prove it wasn't a creator" is asking someone to prove a negative, an especially stupid way of trying to justify believing something.

"prove that the water isn't magic"

"prove unicorns don't exist"

"prove that jesus didn't cause his face to appear on this tortilla"

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/79/79b68e9a1447a6f8d329843446554b2dccef0cfe832cea873e e76f58c9311a2d.jpg

[RandomGuy]

your problem[,Avante ,] is you believe some 8 minute long youtube clips can substitute years of formal education

but education is so hard...

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-10-16-2424198118_7307ebac5e.jpg

[Avante]

Look at this fucking idiot, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't this dumb fuck realize I've already read all about DNA. It doesn't come about without a Designer and it's totally....OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never seen so many idiots in one place before, wow!

[Blake]

Look at this fucking idiot, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't this dumb fuck realize I've already read all about DNA. It doesn't come about without a Designer and it's totally....OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never seen so many idiots in one place before, wow!

who designed the Designer's DNA?

[spurraider21]

who designed the Designer's DNA?
https://caveofman.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/architect-matrix.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Look at this fucking idiot, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't this dumb fuck realize I've already read all about DNA. It doesn't come about without a Designer and it's totally....OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never seen so many idiots in one place before, wow!

Another fucking retarded logical fail.


Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule

Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.

Description of Appeal to Ridicule

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:

X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"

Ok, I'm with Blake, you are a fucking idiot. I have pointed out this particular bit of stupidity over and over, yet you keep licking it back up like a dog to his vomit, and throwing up back here as if you proved anything other than your inability to grasp simple concepts.

[RandomGuy]

... I've already read all about DNA. It doesn't come about without a Designer and it's totally....OBVIOUS!




Fallacy: Burden of Proof

Includes: Appeal to Ignorance ("Ad Ignorantiam")

Description of Burden of Proof

Burden of Proof is a fallacy in which the burden of proof is placed on the wrong side. Another version occurs when a lack of evidence for side A is taken to be evidence for side B in cases in which the burden of proof actually rests on side B. A common name for this is an Appeal to Ignorance. This sort of reasoning typically has the following form:

Claim X is presented by side A and the burden of proof actually rests on side B.
Side B claims that X is false because there is no proof for X.
In many situations, one side has the burden of proof resting on it. This side is obligated to provide evidence for its position. The claim of the other side, the one that does not bear the burden of proof, is assumed to be true unless proven otherwise.

In this case, the burden of proof lies on someone who says:

"it had to be a creator"

"prove it wasn't a creator" is asking someone to prove a negative, an especially stupid way of trying to justify believing something.

"prove that the water isn't magic"

"prove unicorns don't exist"

"prove that jesus didn't cause his face to appear on this tortilla"

If it is that obvious, you should be able to prove it easily. Your claim, your burden of proof. Get cracking geenyus.

[Avante]

Another fucking retarded logical fail.



Ok, I'm with Blake, you are a fucking idiot. I have pointed out this particular bit of stupidity over and over, yet you keep licking it back up like a dog to his vomit, and throwing up back here as if you proved anything other than your inability to grasp simple concepts.

Are you really as fucking moronic as you appear? What about...DNA couldn't have come about without a Designer involved.....don't you get? Do you really think anything that complex just happens? I can't decide if you're stupid or retarded?

Dude, you come off as a total asshole and an idiot ok slick? So go bug others down there on your level,ok stupid? Now beat it ya fucking freak.

[Avante]

Speaking of rock bands.

Remember?

Uriah Heep
Deep Purple
Vanilla Fudge
Iron Butterfly
Savoy Brown
Robin Trower
Country Joe & The Fish
Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
Looking Glass
Amazing Rhythm Aces
The Moody Blues
Jethro Tull
Blind Faith
Black Oak Arkansas
Cream
Marshall Tucker Band

[Avante]

King Kull was the first of the literary sword & sorcery heroes. The author was Robert E. Howard who also gave us Conan. Who was actually better known but not the first. Kull and Conan spawned...

Oron
Kyrik
Kothar
Thongor
Kane
Brak the Barbarian

All Conan wannabe's.

Love those roots to things.

[Blake]

Are you really as fucking moronic as you appear? What about...DNA couldn't have come about without a Designer involved.....don't you get? Do you really think anything that complex just happens? I can't decide if you're stupid or retarded?

Dude, you come off as a total asshole and an idiot ok slick? So go bug others down there on your level,ok stupid? Now beat it ya fucking freak.

Who designed the complex designer

[mouse]

Who designed the complex designer

Pick up a science book.

[Blake]

Pick up a science book.

objective science books don't talk about intelligent design. If you were to pick up a college level science book and read it, you'd know it.

[RandomGuy]

Are you really as fucking moronic as you appear? What about...DNA couldn't have come about without a Designer involved.....don't you get? Do you really think anything that complex just happens? I can't decide if you're stupid or retarded?

Dude, you come off as a total asshole and an idiot ok slick? So go bug others down there on your level,ok stupid? Now beat it ya fucking freak.


Fallacy: Burden of Proof

Includes: Appeal to Ignorance ("Ad Ignorantiam")

Description of Burden of Proof

Burden of Proof is a fallacy in which the burden of proof is placed on the wrong side. Another version occurs when a lack of evidence for side A is taken to be evidence for side B in cases in which the burden of proof actually rests on side B. A common name for this is an Appeal to Ignorance. This sort of reasoning typically has the following form:

Claim X is presented by side A and the burden of proof actually rests on side B.
Side B claims that X is false because there is no proof for X.
In many situations, one side has the burden of proof resting on it. This side is obligated to provide evidence for its position. The claim of the other side, the one that does not bear the burden of proof, is assumed to be true unless proven otherwise.

In this case, the burden of proof lies on someone who says:

"it had to be a creator"

"prove it wasn't a creator" is asking someone to prove a negative, an especially stupid way of trying to justify believing something.

"prove that the water isn't magic"

"prove unicorns don't exist"

"prove that jesus didn't cause his face to appear on this tortilla"

If it is that obvious, you should be able to prove it easily. Your claim, your burden of proof. Get cracking geenyus.

[Avante]

What has always got me about these freaks who play....PROVE IT!!!!!!!...is this........

We are simply not equipped to understand the origins of it all, we are like children trying to built a computer, not knowing what one looks like. Einstein mentioned this but forget how he said it.

Notice how all these dummies have this need to try to get others to buy into the same stupdity they do?

Only a total moron would think DNA came about by chance. No way in hell that could happen. But I have no idea how it came about, other than it took some Designer.

[Avante]

When I watch Howard vs Alcorn or Jackson State vs Grambling I want legit HBCU football. I don't wanna see white cvoachs, white QB's. What's with that?


Yes I know all about Jim Gregory, actually saw him play in HS while at Corcoran HS. But it's getting worst now.

[Avante]

Speaking of The Stones.

Where would they rank?

Pink Floyd
CCR
ZZ Top
Led Zeppelin
The Who
The Doors
The Animals
The Beatles
Moody Blues
Black Sabbath
Uriah Heep
Traffic
Bob Dylan
The Band
The Byrds
Robin Trower
Joe Cocker
Janis Joplin
Jimi Hendrix
CSN & Y
Santana
Fleetwood Mac
Rod Stewart
The Allman Brothers
Queen
Cream
Jethro Tull
The Eagles
The Yardbirds

[spurraider21]

in the bottom third

[Avante]

in the bottom third

I own all that stuff along with...

Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention
Velvet Undergroud
Iron Butterfly
Country Joe and the Fish
Donovan
Vanilla Fudge
The Marshall Tucker Band
Lynard Synard
Black Oak Arkansas
Kansas
The Guess Who
Bread
The Hollies
The Zombies
The First Edition
Dr. John
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
Bob Seegar
Boz Scaggs

....I have

1.The Rolling Stones
2.The Beatles
3.Led Zeppelin
4.Bob Dylan
5.The Doors
6.CCR
7.The Eagles
8.The Animals
9.Jimi Hendrix
10.ZZ Top

[Avante]

Stuff ya can do when ya know the music.

A 90 minute tape (truck has a player)

Blind Willie Johnson...Soul of a Man
the cover....Taj Mahal & Maria Muldaur

Robert Johnson...Hellhound on My Trail
cover...Alvin Youngblood Hart

Son House....Walkin' Blues
Keith Brown

Big Joe Williams...Please Don't Go
Van Morrison

Blind Willie Reynolds.....Outside Woman Blues
Cream

Sonny Boy Williamson...Early In The Morning
Boz Scaggs

Skip James...Devil Got My Woman
Dion

B.F.Shelton....Pretty Polly
The Byrds

Big Boy Crudup....Mean Old Sante Fe
Eric Clapton

Lead Belly...In the Pines
Nirvana

Clarence Ashley...House of the Rising Sun
The Animals

Blind Lemon Jefferson....Black Snake Moan
Ramblin' Jack Elliott

[phyzik]

What has always got me about these freaks who play....PROVE IT!!!!!!!...is this........

We are simply not equipped to understand the origins of it all, we are like children trying to built a computer, not knowing what one looks like. Einstein mentioned this but forget how he said it.

Notice how all these dummies have this need to try to get others to buy into the same stupdity they do?

Only a total moron would think DNA came about by chance. No way in hell that could happen. But I have no idea how it came about, other than it took some Designer.

So, in other words, you are going with the "God of the gaps" side of things.

We cant yet explain it, therefore, God.

OK.

Nevermind all of the other meriad of stuff we have debunked in the bible..... We still dont know everything..... GOD!!!! :lol

Talking snakes!!!

Human virgin births!!

Walking on water!!

Earth is flat!!

Everything revolves around us!!

People can live inside fish!!

Bread turns to flesh!!

Wine turns to blood!!

We are all descendants of inbreeds!!

global flooding!!

Zombie Gods!!!

Hey just a reminder, ANOTHER end of the world prediction based on scripture has been made....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/end-of-the-world-fears-sparked-by-blood-moon-and-meteor-strike-prophecy-10491339.html

SELL YOUR HOMES, QUIT YOUR JOBS!!! A BLOOD MOON IS COMING!!!!

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Avante]

So, in other words, you are going with the "God of the gaps" side of things.

We cant yet explain it, therefore, God.

OK.

Nevermind all of the other meriad of stuff we have debunked in the bible..... We still dont know everything..... GOD!!!! :lol

Talking snakes!!!

Human virgin births!!

Walking on water!!

Earth is flat!!

Everything revolves around us!!

People can live inside fish!!

Bread turns to flesh!!

Wine turns to blood!!

We are all descendants if inbreeds!!

global flooding!!

Zombie Gods!!!

Hey just a reminder, ANOTHER end of the world prediction based on scripture has been made....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/end-of-the-world-fears-sparked-by-blood-moon-and-meteor-strike-prophecy-10491339.html

SELL YOUR HOMES, QUIT YOUR JOBS!!! A BLOOD MOON IS COMING!!!!

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


It actually boils down to knowing both believers and then idiots like you, look how ya act, and realizing those with their shit together have some God, while dumb fucks like you don't.

You being that simple..."prove it, huh huh huh?"...like some dumbass kid and those in the know...."it's not for us to know".

I know no atheists worth a fuck, all pretty much like you.

[phyzik]

It actually boils dow to knowing both believerws and them idiots like you, look how ya act, and realizing those with theire shit together have some God, while dumb fucks like you don't.

How would you treat someone that believes the Harry Potter books are reality?

No, wait, let me go with something as old as the bible...

how would you treat someone who actually believes there is a labyrinth with a man-bull in it and that someone rode a Pegasus to get there to steal a golden fleece?

Or how about someone who was a son of a god and could tear down walls, but when he got a hair cut, he was a normal man?

Lets go semi-modern.....

Do you also believe in human looking aliens who can power up and be super martial artists that can destroy planets?

Do you believe in Ninja Jutsu?

:lol

[Avante]

How would you treat someone that believes the Harry Potter books are reality?

No, wait, let me go with something as old as the bible...

how would you treat someone who actually believes there is a labyrinth with a man-bull in it and that someone rode a Pegasus to get there to steal a golden fleece?

Or how about someone who was a son of a god and could tear down walls, but when he got a hair cut, he was a normal man?

Do you also believe in human looking aliens who can power up and be super martial artists that can destroy planets?

:lol

What if I told you that outside that door was a a giant circle millions of tons in weight just hanging in the sky? What if I told you that right now we were hanging upside down and didn't even know it? What if I told you as you stand there you are actually spinning around? what if I talked about all living creatures could trace their ancestors back to a......fish?

Wanna talk the sperm and the egg?

[phyzik]

Seriously, you religious people are insane.

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If you cant see how nuts this lady sounds, there is no hope for you.

[Avante]

Seriously, you religious people are insane.

2Xp5ft85mHk

If you cant see how nuts this lady sounds, there is no hope for you.

I;m not religious, thought you knew that ya dumb fuck.

[phyzik]

What if I told you that outside that door was a a giant circle millions of tons in weight just hanging in the sky? What if I told you that right now we were hanging upside down and didn't even know it? What if I told you as you stand there you are actually spinning around? what if I talked about all living creatures could trace their ancestors back to a......fish?

Wanna talk the sperm and the egg?

Here you go, a Phylogeny explanation of how it happened. Even contains pictures and diagrams so you can understand if you care to watch. He uses "big" words and it is not "exciting" but it is scientifically accurate.

Sorry, I cant find a video sufficient and exciting enough to keep the attention of a 3rd grader intellect on this subject, so if you want to actually learn, you will have to sit on your hands to keep still and struggle to understand words more complex than "the" and "you" and may have to rewind the video several times even though you probably wont even understand what he is talking about.

Heck, don't know why I even bother, you probably dont even know what "Phylogeny" means.... :bang

_r0zpk0lPFU

[Avante]

Here you go, a Phylogeny explanation of how it happened. Even contains pictures and diagrams so you can understand if you care to watch. He uses "big" words and it is not "exciting" but it is scientifically accurate.

Sorry, I cant find a video sufficient and exciting enough to keep the attention of a 3rd grader intellect on this subject, so if you want to actually learn, you will have to sit on your hands to keep still and struggle to understand words more complex than "the" and "you" and may have to rewind the video several times even though you probably wont even understand what he is talking about.

Heck, don't know why I even bother, you probably dont even know what "Phylogeny" means.... :bang

_r0zpk0lPFU

What's comical is watching an obvious moron like you trying to play that, hahahaha!!!!!! Little man, ya must have missed this but I don't believe in the Biblical God, ok stupid? I thought you knew that(as I ignore all that silly shit ya just posted). I believe in a MasterDesigner, ok idiot? And I have no idea who/what that would be, ok ya with me faggot? I juist know all this didn't just come about by chance, that's for dumb fucks like you.

[phyzik]

What's comical is watching an obvious moron like you trying to play that, hahahaha!!!!!! Little man, ya must have missed this but I don't believe in the Biblical God, ok stupid? I thought you knew that(as I ignore all that silly shit ya just posted). I believe in a MasterDesigner, ok idiot? And I have no idea who/what that would be, ok ya with me faggot? I juist know all this didn't just come about by chance, that's for dumb fucks like you.

And what proof do you have that lets you "know"? a "feeling"?

I have more proof than you that it did come by chance than you do that it came from a creator....

You cant just say "I KNOW!!!" without some evidence to back that claim. I have evidence to back my claim, where is your evidence? a book written by desert dwellers some 2000 years ago?

I can say until my face turns blue that unicorns exist but until I provide proof, I would be full of shit and considered a loon.... just like you are.

[Avante]

And what proof do you have that lets you "know"? a "feeling"?

I have more proof than you that it did come by chance than you do that it came from a creator....

You cant just say "I KNOW!!!" without some evidence to back that claim. I have evidence to back my claim, where is your evidence? a book written by desert dwellers some 2000 years ago?

I can say until my face turns blue that unicorns exist but until I provide proof, I would be full of shit and considered a loon.... just like you are.

Can't you read ya dumb fuck? I just told you I don't believe in the Bible, right? SO PAY FUCKING ATTENTION...you got that bitch?

This isn't about me giving a fuck about what you believe, ok dick less, who cares about you? This is about what I believe, so fuck you. I don't care about proof or evidence I care about common sense. And common sense tells us only a dummy wouldn't get this. To think all this perfection just happen to well...happen...hahaha!!!!!!!!! What are you fucker 10? Hell yes this took some planning and a Designer, how obvious does it need to be? The nutrients in the earth the rain, the food that nourished us, the seasons, the distances betwwen the sun and earth. You honestly stupid enought to buy.....it just happened....hahahahahaha!!!!!!.....what a fucking moron.

[Avante]

The Sun is at the perfect distance.
The Earth rotates at he perfect speed.
Then there's gravity.
The rains are needed to grow the crops.
The seasons.
We must have the nutrients found in the ground to survive.
All that working in perfect concert to pull this off.

So that just happened, right. None of that came about by design despite the fact the odds of all those musts coming together by chance are astronomical.

Oly a complete moron wouldn't get it.

[pgardn]

The Sun is at the perfect distance.
The Earth rotates at he perfect speed.
Then there's gravity.
The rains are needed to grow the crops.
The seasons.
We must have the nutrients found in the ground to survive.
All that working in perfect concert to pull this off.

So that just happened, right. None of that came about by design despite the fact the odds of all those musts coming together by chance are astronomical.

Oly a complete moron wouldn't get it.

If the Earth is at the perfect distance why are there seasons? Does the Earth get closer during summer and further during winter? What's the deal with this Avante? So now he will look it up and give a website. Explain in your own words. Do we need seasons for life to exist as you imply? Why or why not?

This is will be interesting.

[spurraider21]

If the Earth is at the perfect distance why are there seasons? Does the Earth get closer during summer and further during winter? What's the deal with this Avante? So now he will look it up and give a website. Explain in your own words. Do we need seasons for life to exist as you imply? Why or why not?

This is will be interesting.
it was god's plan

[Blake]

The Sun is at the perfect distance.
The Earth rotates at he perfect speed.
Then there's gravity.
The rains are needed to grow the crops.
The seasons.
We must have the nutrients found in the ground to survive.
All that working in perfect concert to pull this off.

So that just happened, right. None of that came about by design despite the fact the odds of all those musts coming together by chance are astronomical.

Oly a complete moron wouldn't get it.

And then there's the complex designer who just happens to out there making all this.

Where did the designer come from, Avante?

[Avante]

If the Earth is at the perfect distance why are there seasons? Does the Earth get closer during summer and further during winter? What's the deal with this Avante? So now he will look it up and give a website. Explain in your own words. Do we need seasons for life to exist as you imply? Why or why not?

This is will be interesting.

This isn't about .....me. Which seems to be why you come here, you liike to bother others. I don't get why we even have any of this at all, do you? Why the sun, why the moon, why the seasons, why do we rotate around, why day,, why night? I have no idea of any kinmd, none/zero! So what's your take, why do we have life? Why are things like they are?

[Blake]

This isn't about .....me. Which seems to be why you come here, you liike to bother others.

He's not making this about.....you. He's asking you to expound on your questions about the earth and sun, dumbass.

[pgardn]

This isn't about .....me. Which seems to be why you come here, you liike to bother others. I don't get why we even have any of this at all, do you? Why the sun, why the moon, why the seasons, why do we rotate around, why day,, why night? I have no idea of any kinmd, none/zero! So what's your take, why do we have life? Why are things like they are?

Never ever read anything to do with science.

Are you even fcking human? Is there a microgram of curiosity left in your close to death brain?
And I bother people like you who are fakes with a willingness to distort. If you would stop posting about things you have not bothered to understand but claim expertise, I would gladly stop.

[phyzik]

Homo Naledi found, yet another of the myriad of sources for human evolution...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/africa/homo-naledi-human-relative-species/index.html

But lets keep believing in a sky daddy that "designed" us as "originals" and "unique".... :rolleyes

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And the gap grows even smaller..... :lol

[phyzik]

Can't you read ya dumb fuck? I just told you I don't believe in the Bible, right? SO PAY FUCKING ATTENTION...you got that bitch?

This isn't about me giving a fuck about what you believe, ok dick less, who cares about you? This is about what I believe, so fuck you. I don't care about proof or evidence I care about common sense. And common sense tells us only a dummy wouldn't get this. To think all this perfection just happen to well...happen...hahaha!!!!!!!!! What are you fucker 10? Hell yes this took some planning and a Designer, how obvious does it need to be? The nutrients in the earth the rain, the food that nourished us, the seasons, the distances betwwen the sun and earth. You honestly stupid enought to buy.....it just happened....hahahahahaha!!!!!!.....what a fucking moron.

perfection you say?

How is it perfect that we swallow food through the same opening that we breath through allowing for chocking?

Why do Squids and Owls have better eyesight than we do?

Why do cats see better in the dark than we do?

Why cant we breath under water when the Earth itself is more than 70% water?

Why must we have this specific biome on this specific planet in order to survive if we are so perfect?

I would think a God, wanting to create the perfect being in his own image, would make something significantly more resilient in order to adapt to any situation in the galaxy. After all, why create a being in his "own image" if it can only survive on one tiny rock in such a vast universe?

You cant claim "in his own image" and "flawed" in the same breath, so don't give me that shit.

according to you, regardless if you believe in the bible or not, we are the perfect being.... so why are we so flawed?

There are 3 options IF a higher being DOES exist...

1) a higher being exists and has created and imprisoned us on this one relatively small rock to treat us like an ant farm and doesn't really give a fuck about us and taunts us with other habitats so far away, we cant possibly reach them before our species dies out .... So fuck him.

2) a higher being exists and decided to create a universe on a whim and allowed "nature" to take it's course, and still doesn't give a fuck about us.... So why worship him?

3) An idiot god who is letting his creation fail and doesn't give a fuck how divided we are about his existence.

It's so fucking absurd to think this "being" exist it is beyond maddening!!!!

Think about it....

an all-powerful being, creates a perfect image of himself on a tiny rock in the vast universe, lets it fail almost beyond reason for thousands of years with no indication of it's presence or significant provable help whatsoever, and you want me to believe in this joker?

I have more of a chance of writing a letter to a presidential candidate and having my proposal voted into the constitution than the entire world praying to a sky daddy and it coming true.

I, and just about ANYONE on this PLANET, could be a better god than the one you believe in, hell, I've done it in video games with VERY LITTLE effort for shits sake!!!

If he/she/it DOES exist, I want no association with such an incompetent fool! I'll gladly go to hell where all the competent and cool people are right after I spit and piss in this incompetent gods face. I KNOW I've helped more people than anyone who "prayed" to him for help. :lol

You can "pray" for someone who is in a hard time of their life, or you can actually "DO" something about it. Praying = wishing = no results.

But by all means, keep "praying" someone you know who might have cancer gets cured by an actual doctor and attribute it to some fucktard of a god instead of the doctor....:rolleyes

In case that's not hint enough, when an actual doctor saves your life, and you "praise god" for it, you are actually insulting the doctor who LITERALLY saved your life. He had no magic juju man in the sky help him....

[Avante]

perfection you say?

How is it perfect that we swallow food through the same opening that we breath through allowing for chocking?

Why do Squids and Owls have better eyesight than we do?

Why do cats see better in the dark than we do?

Why cant we breath under water when the Earth itself is more than 70% water?

Why must we have this specific biome on this specific planet in order to survive if we are so perfect?

I would think a God, wanting to create the perfect being in his own image, would make something significantly more resilient in order to adapt to any situation in the galaxy. After all, why create a being in his "own image" if it can only survive on one tiny rock in such a vast universe?

You cant claim "in his own image" and "flawed" in the same breath, so don't give me that shit.

according to you, regardless if you believe in the bible or not, we are the perfect being.... so why are we so flawed?

There are 3 options IF a higher being DOES exist...

1) a higher being exists and has created and imprisoned us on this one relatively small rock to treat us like an ant farm and doesn't really give a fuck about us and taunts us with other habitats so far away, we cant possibly reach them before our species dies out .... So fuck him.

2) a higher being exists and decided to create a universe on a whim and allowed "nature" to take it's course, and still doesn't give a fuck about us.... So why worship him?

3) An idiot god who is letting his creation fail and doesn't give a fuck how divided we are about his existence.

It's so fucking absurd to think this "being" exist it is beyond maddening!!!!

Think about it....

an all-powerful being, creates a perfect image of himself on a tiny rock in the vast universe, lets it fail almost beyond reason for thousands of years with no indication of it's presence or significant provable help whatsoever, and you want me to believe in this joker?

I have more of a chance of writing a letter to a presidential candidate and having my proposal voted into the constitution than the entire world praying to a sky daddy and it coming true.

I, and just about ANYONE on this PLANET, could be a better god than the one you believe in, hell, I've done it in video games with VERY LITTLE effort for shits sake!!!

If he/she/it DOES exist, I want no association with such an incompetent fool! I'll gladly go to hell where all the competent and cool people are right after I spit and piss in this incompetent gods face. I KNOW I've helped more people than anyone who "prayed" to him for help. :lol

You can "pray" for someone who is in a hard time of their life, or you can actually "DO" something about it. Praying = wishing = no results.

But by all means, keep "praying" someone you know who might have cancer gets cured by an actual doctor and attribute it to some fucktard of a god instead of the doctor....:rolleyes

In case that's not hint enough, when an actual doctor saves your life, and you "praise god" for it, you are actually insulting the doctor who LITERALLY saved your life. He had no magic juju man in the sky help him....


You can live a nothing life, I can see you're already a miseabler littlre fuck. I want more so I have more. If you get a nut being a stupid fuck with no hopes of anything, do it, ok faggot? There is a reason most beleive and don't want to be like you, it's because it sucks.

I want to think maybe there is something better than this, as do most people. Only some fucking retard like you would prefer.....nothing.

Hey faggot, you strike me as a genuine asshole, ok? So how about moving on and bug those more down there on your level on level, ok idiot?


I pity these obvious queers.

[Avante]

No doubt you often wonder...."so who would I mix some Howlin' Wolf with"...?

Here ya go....

All prior to 1955.

John Lee Hooker
Muddy Waters
Lightnin' Hopkins
Little Walter
Sonny Boy Willamson
Jimmy Reed
Otis Spann
Mercy Dee Walton
Lowell Fulsom
BB King
Otis Rush

That'll do it.

[Blake]

You're flat retarded

[Avante]

How many of you out there are sick of this Blake freak? Look at him, is that sad to watch or what? I tell the queer....dude, you're not worth my time...ok? Now here he comes totally begging me to respond, wow, how fucked up is this guy?


Wow!

Now watch this, here he comes again, hahaha!!!!!! Poor little faggot.

[Avante]

I asked Judy who is a devout Christian what she thought of evolution. She thought about it for a long second and then said...."does it matter?" She nailed it as she always does. It really doesn't matter does it?

[spurraider21]

it's amazing how much you seem to care about it considering "it doesn't really matter"

[Blake]

I asked Judy who is a devout Christian what she thought of evolution. She thought about it for a long second and then said...."does it matter?" She nailed it as she always does. It really doesn't matter does it?

she's probably wondering why you started a thread on it and have hundreds of posts on the topic.

you're just too fucking retarded to understand why the science of evolution matters.

[RandomGuy]

It actually boils down to knowing both believers and then idiots like you, look how ya act, and realizing those with their shit together have some God, while dumb fucks like you don't.

You being that simple..."prove it, huh huh huh?"...like some dumbass kid and those in the know...."it's not for us to know".

I know no atheists worth a fuck, all pretty much like you.

How do you know "it's not for us to know"?

You say you aren't religious, but you seem to be borrowing a whole lot of shitty ideas from religions.

I have already shown you repeatedly making the same arguments, over and over.

At this point, I think you are actively lying about not being religious.

[RandomGuy]

I asked Judy who is a devout Christian what she thought of evolution. She thought about it for a long second and then said...."does it matter?" She nailed it as she always does. It really doesn't matter does it?

Evolution has nothing to do with religion. It is natural science. Only fucktards think it does.

Physical evidence about the world we have found ourselves on though, contradicts the Bible in a lot of ways.

The best way to really get into what one should believe though is to ask a lot of questions.

VU_8q9MGXeg because the idiots who start prattling on about the Bible tend to really suck at answering them.

[Avante]

it's amazing how much you seem to care about it considering "it doesn't really matter"

Not really, ya see Judy teachs sunday school. She was talking about the things kids ask.

[Avante]

How do you know "it's not for us to know"?

You say you aren't religious, but you seem to be borrowing a whole lot of shitty ideas from religions.

I have already shown you repeatedly making the same arguments, over and over.

At this point, I think you are actively lying about not being religious.

I simply know way too many people who would never play this stupid shit you do who believe in some God. You come off as a dummy, look at how desperate you are, ha~~~~~~~~

I;m not religious at all, I don't believe in the Christian God at all. I buy into some Designer but nothing like we are told by religions. You don't worship this Designer and they do nothing for you at all.

Only some dumb fuck like you could think all thisw came about by chance.

[Blake]

Miserable fat sophist

[clambake]

I simply know way too many people who would never play this stupid shit you do who believe in some God. You come off as a dummy, look at how desperate you are, ha~~~~~~~~

I;m not religious at all, I don't believe in the Christian God at all. I buy into some Designer but nothing like we are told by religions. You don't worship this Designer and they do nothing for you at all.

Only some dumb fuck like you could think all thisw came about by chance.
this designer............did mistakes occur in his/her/it's design?

[spurraider21]

Not really, ya see Judy teachs sunday school. She was talking about the things kids ask.
Of course she "doesn't care" about evolution. She's a devout Christian who teaches Sunday school. Evolution calls all that into question, so she just ignores it

[Blake]

this designer............did mistakes occur in his/her/it's design?

Nope. Designer included disease on purpose.

[Avante]

Of course she "doesn't care" about evolution. She's a devout Christian who teaches Sunday school. Evolution calls all that into question, so she just ignores it

Wrong as usual.

Judy isn't about worrying about proving anything, she goes with what makes her feel better about things. As do most intelligent people. Only idiots like you get all caught up in..."oh yeah well can ya prove it huh huh huh?" ..... kids play that son.

[Avante]

this designer............did mistakes occur in his/her/it's design?

Nope!

It all fits like a hand in a glove.

Humans need food to survive, where do we get it? From the earth. The earth needs what to produce this food?

It's all there as perfect as it could be, only a moron wouldn't get it.

[spurraider21]

Wrong as usual.

Judy isn't about worrying about proving anything, she goes with what makes her feel better about things. As do most intelligent people. Only idiots like you get all caught up in..."oh yeah well can ya prove it huh huh huh?" ..... kids play that son.
Yeah that's my point. You ignore evidence and go with warm fluffy feelings. I deal with evidence and facts.

[Blake]

Nope!

It all fits like a hand in a glove.

Humans need food to survive, where do we get it? From the earth. The earth needs what to produce this food?

It's all there as perfect as it could be, only a moron wouldn't get it.

Designer meant for 99.9% of all species ever designed to become extinct! Perfection!

[Avante]

Yeah that's my point. You ignore evidence and go with warm fluffy feelings. I deal with evidence and facts.

So we all did evolve from sea creatures, this is a fact, right? There is no God or Designer, another fact, right?

Isn't it a fact that most people on this planet believe in some God, well?

[spurraider21]

Facts = evidence such as the fossiL records, genetic records, and dating

Those facts point to evolution and not creation

Just like a crime scene, the evidence tells a story

[apalisoc_9]

Fossils :lmao

[Blake]

So we all did evolve from sea creatures, this is a fact, right? There is no God or Designer, another fact, right?

Isn't it a fact that most people on this planet believe in some God, well?

Wow ~ sheesh ~ ya ask these same stupid questions over and over.

Ya dumb old fuck

[RandomGuy]

I simply know way too many people who would never play this stupid shit you do who believe in some God. You come off as a dummy, look at how desperate you are, ha~~~~~~~~

I;m not religious at all, I don't believe in the Christian God at all. I buy into some Designer but nothing like we are told by religions. You don't worship this Designer and they do nothing for you at all.

Only some dumb fuck like you could think all thisw came about by chance.

Where did a creator that complex originate?

ODetOE6cbbc

Logic fail.

[RandomGuy]

Isn't it a fact that most people on this planet believe in some God, well?


Also Known as: Ad Populum

Description of Appeal to Popularity

The Appeal to Popularity has the following form:

Most people approve of X (have favorable emotions towards X).
Therefore X is true.
The basic idea is that a claim is accepted as being true simply because most people are favorably inclined towards the claim. More formally, the fact that most people have favorable emotions associated with the claim is substituted in place of actual evidence for the claim. A person falls prey to this fallacy if he accepts a claim as being true simply because most other people approve of the claim.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html

It is a provable fact that you are a fucktard for thinking the number of people believing in something means it is somehow true.

Fucking idiot.

[spurraider21]

Fossils :lmao
excellent analysis

[Avante]

Facts = evidence such as the fossiL records, genetic records, and dating

Those facts point to evolution and not creation

Just like a crime scene, the evidence tells a story

That's not what I asked.

So it's a known ...fact...we evolved from fish, right?

So it's a known fact there is no God/Designer....right?

So tell me little man how come so many believe in a God and so few wanna be like you?

[Avante]

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html

It is a provable fact that you are a fucktard for thinking the number of people believing in something means it is somehow true.

Fucking idiot.

So so few believing like you do makes you what ya fucking idiot? Tell me stupid how come this country would never have a dumb fuck like you with no God in the White House, well?

So tell me ya fucking moron hiow come every culture has it's God? Well?

Are you realy as retarded as you appear?

Take out a dollar bill, now what's it say stupid?

[Avante]

Ever notice all the atheists are always morons?

[apalisoc_9]

excellent analysis

Still waiting for a detail process of how DNA evolves.

Until then, Human evolution is partly human delusion in my eyes.

[Avante]

Still waiting for a detail process of how DNA evolves.

Until then, Human evolution is partly human delusion in my eyes.

Imagine anyone dumb enought to think something as complex as DNA just happened, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

You do have to pity those dummies, so lost it's comical.

[spurraider21]

Still waiting for a detail process of how DNA evolves.

Until then, Human evolution is partly human delusion in my eyes.
google mutation, and filter out x-men

[apalisoc_9]

google mutation, and filter out x-men

does not compute...

explain how a fish mutated to a human being using DNA..give us the mutational process.

[spurraider21]

does not compute...

explain how a fish mutated to a human being using DNA..give us the mutational process.
yes, because i'm going to sit down and type up a doctoral thesis on evolutionary genetics for you on spurstalk

and there was a lot of shit in between fish and human

[Avante]

yes, because i'm going to sit down and type up a doctoral thesis on evolutionary genetics for you on spurstalk

and there was a lot of shit in between fish and human

Dude, are you really dumb enought to think we can track all living creatures back to......a fish?

Stupid, the caterpillar and the giraffe can both be traced back to......a fish?

Come on guy you really believe that?

[spurraider21]

Dude, are you really dumb enought to think we can track all living creatures back to......a fish?

Stupid, the caterpillar and the giraffe can both be traced back to......a fish?

Come on guy you really believe that?
caterpillars and giraffes don't have common land ancestors... insects (like caterpillars) come from crustaceans (think lobsters). mammals (like giraffes) came from bony fish

they are completely different braches of animals

[Avante]

caterpillars and giraffes don't have common land ancestors... insects (like caterpillars) come from crustaceans (think lobsters). mammals (like giraffes) came from bony fish

they are completely different braches of animals

Work with me here, ok?

There was nothing, no life at all.....right?

So one day here came this/these fshy whatevers out of the ocean....right?

Now stop.

So if it all started there, then we do track it all back to there, right?

[spurraider21]

So one day here came this/these fshy whatevers out of the ocean....right?
different types of fish came out of the ocean at different times. crustaceans, lungfish... have their own paths

[Avante]

different types of fish came out of the ocean at different times. crustaceans, lungfish... have their own paths

How come there are no fish leaving the ocean today and looking to live on land?

So you really think any fish could somehow evolve into a rhino, a hippo, a lion? While another kind of fish is evolving into a caterpillar?

Dude, are you for real, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok guy, explain to me just what motivated a fish into becoming some other creature? Now think, ok? What other creature are us humans now evolving into? What other creature is todays cat evolving into?

Wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

How come there are no fish leaving the ocean today and looking to live on land?
http://i.imgur.com/Kd2NQC3.gif

So you really think any fish could somehow evolve into a rhino, a hippo, a lion?
probably not in the same lifetime


While another kind of fish is evolving into a caterpillar?
different types of ancestors have different descendants. who woulda guessed


Dude, are you for real, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes


Ok guy, explain to me just what motivated a fish into becoming some other creature?
youve asked this question many times, and you've been answered many times. there is no motivation. its not a conscious decision. if i was motivated to grow wings, i wouldn't


Now think, ok? What other creature are us humans now evolving into? What other creature is todays cat evolving into?

Wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
check back in a few million years and we'll see

[Avante]

Look guy there ain't no way in hell some fishy whatever evolved into a tiger, ok guy? If you wanna believe that silliness do it, I' m never going to buy it, ok? It's fucking stupid little fella, ok?

I'll just be like most people on this planet you can be among the few total idiots ,ok?

[admiralsnackbar]

So tell me little man how come so many believe in a God and so few wanna be like you? How come so many wanna believe in the Lakers, and so few wanna like Spurs? Are the Lakers innately worth support? Or is marketing involved? Congrats on busting 200 pages, btw! Seems like that was your true aim, so ups on your achievement, chief! :cheers

[Blake]

Ever notice all the atheists are always morons?

Who are you talking to

[RandomGuy]

Are you realy as retarded as you appear?



I am far less retarded than you "realy" appear. :lol

[RandomGuy]

Isn't it a fact that most people on this planet believe in some God, well?



Also Known as: Ad Populum

Description of Appeal to Popularity

The Appeal to Popularity has the following form:

Most people approve of X (have favorable emotions towards X).
Therefore X is true.
The basic idea is that a claim is accepted as being true simply because most people are favorably inclined towards the claim. More formally, the fact that most people have favorable emotions associated with the claim is substituted in place of actual evidence for the claim. A person falls prey to this fallacy if he accepts a claim as being true simply because most other people approve of the claim.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html

It is a provable fact that you are a fucktard for thinking the number of people believing in something means it is somehow true.





So tell me ya fucking moron hiow come every culture has it's God? Well?


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/762/095/77c.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Take out a dollar bill, now what's it say stupid?

It doesn't say "stupid" , moron.

(edit, because Avante probably needs another hint)

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e0/e0b396d718380951eeda619ee84659942f97915d5e8bca3289 689d484c2ce083.jpg

[Avante]

Poor little guy he tries so hard, hahaha!!!!!!!

[Blake]

Poor little guy he tries so hard, hahaha!!!!!!!

Yeah, he should just give up trying to help you understand science and do like I do: just clown you and watch you meltdown.

[Avante]

As we all watch this idiot follow me from thread to thread , hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! I work this boy so easiliy and the bitch doesn't even see it, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Avante...done with ya son.

That's all it takes and here he comes, begging me to respond, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I own this queer as we all can see.

[clambake]

you want to worship a designer that allows people like you to exploit children?

[RandomGuy]

Poor little guy he tries so hard, hahaha!!!!!!!

I wouldn't call it "trying hard". It might seem that way to you, though.

Making you look foolish is easy because you make it that way, and reminds me of some criticism I get from people whose opinion I actually respect that I spend too much time running rings around morons who don't even realize how badly they are doing.

One put it like "shooting fish in a barrel that don't even understand they are being shot".

I would be willing to bet, Donald, that you think you are doing "better than average", LOL.

https://sites.google.com/site/josblogspot/dunning-kruger-curve-640px.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, he should just give up trying to help you understand science and do like I do: just clown you and watch you meltdown.

The meltdowns where he can't get his spelling or punctuation right and calls other people idiots are the funniest to play with. I normally don't stoop to grammar smack, but the irony was just too delicious.

http://orig11.deviantart.net/d485/f/2012/196/1/5/delicious_irony_by_gwafu-d57bnah.png

[Blake]

As we all watch this idiot follow me from thread to thread , hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! I work this boy so easiliy and the bitch doesn't even see it, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Avante...done with ya son.

That's all it takes and here he comes, begging me to respond, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I own this queer as we all can see.

lol "we all"

[RandomGuy]

lol "we all"

http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/starbuck-so-say-we-all-shirt.jpg

[Avante]

you want to worship a designer that allows people like you to exploit children?

Do you honestly believe bars that make their money selling drinks hire children to hustle those drinks? Are you really that stupid?


Dude, the military wasn't allowed in the brothels/whore houses, ok? That's where we saw this sex slavery thing and the really young girls, ok stupid?

Educate yourself about this son, ok? You obviously know......0.....about it.

So you would have stayed on the ship, right? And why act like you aren't aware of the fact millions of servicemen were doing what I was, well?

[Blake]

Lol so insecure

":cry but but everyone was assuming they weren't underage girls in Olongapo and you would have assumed it too" :cry

[Avante]

I wouldn't call it "trying hard". It might seem that way to you, though.

Making you look foolish is easy because you make it that way, and reminds me of some criticism I get from people whose opinion I actually respect that I spend too much time running rings around morons who don't even realize how badly they are doing.

One put it like "shooting fish in a barrel that don't even understand they are being shot".

I would be willing to bet, Donald, that you think you are doing "better than average", LOL.

https://sites.google.com/site/josblogspot/dunning-kruger-curve-640px.jpg


Are you for real little guy? I don't care about trying to argue/debate this at all. So why act like I am? OBVIOUSLY....what I'm talking about is simply faith, I assumed even a dunny like you could figure this out. It's like..."does she love me?"....you want to believe her when she says she does....ok? Can you prove she does, nope!

Look at how ya act over this, hahaha!!!!!! A fucking clown! We all get it ok slugger, its not complex at all it's just not how it went down and only idiots like you don't get this.

Dummy, a T-Rex evolved from some fish, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, I want something more than your dumb ass wants, ok stupid? So I have it, alright?

All you are doing is showing everyone why atheists are laughed at.

[Blake]

Dude, I want something more than your dumb ass wants, ok stupid? So I have it, alright?

All you are doing is showing everyone why atheists are laughed at.

Lol "everyone"

Atheism has zero to do with evolution, genius.

[Avante]

Let me see the hands of those of you who would stalk another poster who has told you...."you are an idiot and a waste of my time, go away..... please"....well? Look at this guy, is this sad to watch, wow~~~~~

Bipolar?

[Blake]

Lol "show of hands"

[Avante]

I don't even read this loser anymore, do I own this boy or what, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stalking people who think you're an idiot, how sad is this fuck?

Here he comes again, the worst case of Avente-itist I've seen.

[Avante]

Moving on from internet idiots.

In 1937 or was it 38, Sonny Boy Williamson the best of the prewar harnonica players recorded this.

This is an outstanding cover by Boz Scaggs.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQC0Bap6kY8

[RandomGuy]

Are you for real little guy? I don't care about trying to argue/debate this at all. So why act like I am? OBVIOUSLY....what I'm talking about is simply faith, I assumed even a dunny like you could figure this out. It's like..."does she love me?"....you want to believe her when she says she does....ok? Can you prove she does, nope!

Look at how ya act over this, hahaha!!!!!! A fucking clown! We all get it ok slugger, its not complex at all it's just not how it went down and only idiots like you don't get this.

Dummy, a T-Rex evolved from some fish, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, I want something more than your dumb ass wants, ok stupid? So I have it, alright?

All you are doing is showing everyone why atheists are laughed at.

https://sites.google.com/site/josblogspot/dunning-kruger-curve-640px.jpg

Keep talking Donald.

Tell me again how you are smarter than average, and that you understand evolution well enough to have an opinion on it.

[RandomGuy]

Lol "show of hands"

Dude is a bit like Cosmored in that regard. IMO.

[Blake]

Dude is a bit like Cosmored in that regard. IMO.

Yeah, but there are times I think cosmored is just a troll. Hard to tell if he's just fishing or really retarded.

no doubt in my mind tho that Avante is just a delusional retard.

[Blake]

I don't even read this loser anymore, do I own this boy or what, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stalking people who think you're an idiot, how sad is this fuck?

Here he comes again, the worst case of Avente-itist I've seen.

Lol "stalking"

[tbdog]

you STILL don't understand what is wrong with that line of questioning :lmao. it's only demonstrating that you don't understand evolution. keep it going

I just found this thread and laughed so hard at the ops opening paragraph. Ignorance sometimes cannot be treated with logic.

[tbdog]

Work with me here, ok?

There was nothing, no life at all.....right?

So one day here came this/these fshy whatevers out of the ocean....right?

Now stop.



No you stop.

Don't get confused with abiogenesis and evolution. Abiogenesis is how life eventuated on earth. Evolution is when there is life on earth, what becomes of it. The first life on earth came around 3.8 billion years ago. it wasn't fish. It was bacteria. Homo sapiens have only been around for 200 thousand years.

This is all pretty common eduction.

[Avante]

[QUOTE=RandomGuy;81

Keep talking Donald.

Tell me again how you are smarter than average, and that you understand evolution well enough to have an opinion on it.[/QUOTE]

Talk to me about MEAC/SWAC track. How about the origins of the sci fi novelist? Wanna talk Them old Delta blues? Can you talk the works of H.P.Lovecraft, Robert E. Howard?

Little man it's not about intelligence it's about interests, ok stupid? Look at how limited you are guy.

I started this thread looking to knock out 100 pages, I knew this topic would do it, do I know my target audience or what?

Hey stupid, talk t me about Ball States Timmy Brown, ok?

[Avante]

So I'm suppose to ignore all those (vast majority) who worship a God and side with freaks like we see here, hahahaha!!!!!!!!

Educated people do this....

Educated...so you believe in evolution anf therre is no God, right?
Stupid...yep!
Educated...cool!

Now watch how these idiots act when you disagree with their stupity, they pout and call you names hahahaha!!!!!!

[phyzik]

You can live a nothing life, I can see you're already a miseabler littlre fuck. I want more so I have more. If you get a nut being a stupid fuck with no hopes of anything, do it, ok faggot? There is a reason most beleive and don't want to be like you, it's because it sucks.

I want to think maybe there is something better than this, as do most people. Only some fucking retard like you would prefer.....nothing.

Hey faggot, you strike me as a genuine asshole, ok? So how about moving on and bug those more down there on your level on level, ok idiot?


I pity these obvious queers.

No one "prefers" nothing you idiot.... It is just reality.

You can "hope" and "pray" and "believe" as HARD as you want....

It doesn't change shit in reality.

"Want" and "Hope" dont mean shit. I "want" and "Hope" to win the lottery...

Go ahead and believe me a "glass half empty" type of person if that makes you feel better. Keep on believing in your imaginary friend.


I'll live in reality and enjoy the one life I have.

[tbdog]

So I'm suppose to ignore all those (vast majority) who worship a God and side with freaks like we see here, hahahaha!!!!!!!!

Educated people do this....

Educated...so you believe in evolution anf therre is no God, right?
Stupid...yep!
Educated...cool!

Now watch how these idiots act when you disagree with their stupity, they pout and call you names hahahaha!!!!!!

The evidence of evolution doesn't disprove god. They are separate. In fact the catholic church has accepted evolution as a fact.

[mouse]

The evidence of evolution doesn't disprove god. They are separate. In fact the catholic church has accepted evolution as a fact.

Are these the same people that took decades to finally accept they had a real problem with their priests?

[mouse]

Over 200 pages you'd think by now one of these misguided Darwin lovers would post something that proves I was a fish.

[boutons_deux]

I was a fish.

... we can dream you're a fish, straw man

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, but there are times I think cosmored is just a troll. Hard to tell if he's just fishing or really retarded.

no doubt in my mind tho that Avante is just a delusional retard.

Hmm... I don't think Cosmored is a troll. I have gone on long enough with him to realize he is likely clinically insane in some way.

I wouldn't quite call Avante delusional, although he is clinging rather tenaciously to the "designer" thing.

[RandomGuy]

No one "prefers" nothing you idiot.... It is just reality.

You can "hope" and "pray" and "believe" as HARD as you want....

It doesn't change shit in reality.

"Want" and "Hope" dont mean shit. I "want" and "Hope" to win the lottery...

Go ahead and believe me a "glass half empty" type of person if that makes you feel better. Keep on believing in your imaginary friend.


I'll live in reality and enjoy the one life I have.

Tvz0mmF6NW4

[Avante]

So all those churchs, all those religions, all that gospel music all this....

In God We Trust
Christmas
So Help Me God
I Swear To God
Easter
One Nation Under God

Is all a load of bullshit, right?

And no you can't have Adam & Eve and evolution, ok?


No way in hell I'm going to go with some onvious idiots on a messageboard who obviously stuggle out in that real world.

I don't know (nobody does) what actually went dowm, what I do know is that it didn't happen by chance. That would be impossible so "something" is behind all this and it should be obvious.

Can we track all living creatures back to fish, of course not and only idiots would think we could.

[clambake]

tell us about adam and eve.

this should be good.

[Blake]

Over 200 pages you'd think by now one of these misguided Darwin lovers would post something that proves I was a fish.

i think you posted this line at 50, 100 & 150 pages too didn't you. And the reply is still the same: you've been given the evidence, you're just too stupid and/or lazy to understand it

[Blake]

I wouldn't quite call Avante delusional, although he is clinging rather tenaciously to the "designer" thing.

He's delusional thinking there are a whole bunch of people here that see things his way.

He also thinks I'm stalking him.

Lol bat shit delusional old fuck

[TeyshaBlue]

The Club boutons. :lol

[tbdog]

tell us about adam and eve.

this should be good.

Popcorn is ready

[admiralsnackbar]

Yeah, but there are times I think cosmored is just a troll. Hard to tell if he's just fishing or really retarded. no doubt in my mind tho that Avante is just a delusional retard. Yet he has pretty explicitly stated his goal was to break a page record here, and his rebuttals are reliably lazy on reasoning and heavy on insult... just let it go, chief. All of you -- really -- let it go! If the OP's position were so strong, if his points were so persuasive, there would be more people in here supporting it/them. Outside of Mouse dropping in occasionally to do his shtick, this thread is just a few reasonable people being affronted by Avante's contrived lack of regard for reason or civility. You're being clowned every time you respond to "I ain't never been no fish!"

[Blake]

Avante's meltdowns are real though and they're spectacular

[RandomGuy]

i think you posted this line at 50, 100 & 150 pages too didn't you. And the reply is still the same: you've been given the evidence, you're just too stupid and/or lazy to understand it

"and", very definitely "and", no "or" about it.

[RandomGuy]

Yet he has pretty explicitly stated his goal was to break a page record here, and his rebuttals are reliably lazy on reasoning and heavy on insult... just let it go, chief. All of you -- really -- let it go! If the OP's position were so strong, if his points were so persuasive, there would be more people in here supporting it/them. Outside of Mouse dropping in occasionally to do his shtick, this thread is just a few reasonable people being affronted by Avante's contrived lack of regard for reason or civility. You're being clowned every time you respond to "I ain't never been no fish!"

Pretty much came to that conclusion. He tried very half-heartedly once or twice.

[spurraider21]

Yet he has pretty explicitly stated his goal was to break a page record here, and his rebuttals are reliably lazy on reasoning and heavy on insult... just let it go, chief. All of you -- really -- let it go! If the OP's position were so strong, if his points were so persuasive, there would be more people in here supporting it/them. Outside of Mouse dropping in occasionally to do his shtick, this thread is just a few reasonable people being affronted by Avante's contrived lack of regard for reason or civility. You're being clowned every time you respond to "I ain't never been no fish!"
unlikely that was his goal the whole time, rather just a cop-out to save face after being routinely embarrassed here

[admiralsnackbar]

unlikely that was his goal the whole time, rather just a cop-out to save face after being routinely embarrassed here I won't pretend to know the guy's true intentions, but he broke 200 pgs without building on his argument or rebutting anyone else's continually growing points -- make of that what you will.

[spurraider21]

I won't pretend to know the guy's true intentions, but he broke 200 pgs without building on his argument or rebutting anyone else's continually growing points -- make of that what you will.
i dont pretend either. i said "unlikely" for a reason and just used a little deductive reasoning

[Blake]

I won't pretend to know the guy's true intentions, but he broke 200 pgs without building on his argument or rebutting anyone else's continually growing points -- make of that what you will.

I made entertainment of it.

The gem of the thread imo was his arguing that Arkansas had no hillbillies

[mouse]

... we can dream you're a fish, straw man

Well that sums up the whole "Evolution" theory......

its nothing but a "Dream"


For those with common sense more like a nightmare

[Blake]

Well that sums up the whole "Evolution" theory......

its nothing but a "Dream"


For those with common sense more like a nightmare

When you close your eyes and imagine your creator, what does he/she/it look like? Serious question

[mouse]

I guess Ill just have to wait for page 208

[mouse]

The only real evidence of Evolution is the fact that many with ape like intelligence actually support it.

Mark Allen 1985

[Blake]

I guess Ill just have to wait for page 208

I'm guessing I'll always be waiting for you to describe your designer.

[Blake]

The only real evidence of Evolution is the fact that many with ape like intelligence actually support it.

Mark Allen 1985

_ZEBrHe4hVs

[RandomGuy]

I won't pretend to know the guy's true intentions, but he broke 200 pgs without building on his argument or rebutting anyone else's continually growing points -- make of that what you will.

You are entirely right. I have found it amusing to this point to make fun of him even knowing what he was doing, but that has just worn thin.

I'm out.

[mouse]

I'm guessing I'll always be waiting for you to describe your designer.

As long as you admit a design exists that's all you need. I'm sure you don't need a woman to describe her father before you take her out. Unless your looking for an excuse to not date her.

I think all your trivial questions you love to ask is really just your subconscious mind stalling on accepting the truth on how you may have came about and who you really are.

it must scare you or at the very least weigh heavily on your limited mind.

[mouse]

_ZEBrHe4hVs


You and all your misguided Darwin supporters need all those Apes doing cool shit videos to help rationalize your insane theories.

Maybe one day if you look hard enough you may find on Goggle a gorilla that can actually create his own Facebook page, hell you may literally have an orgasm.

As for me I just need DNA.

[Blake]

As long as you admit a design exists that's all you need. I'm sure you don't need a woman to describe her father before you take her out. Unless your looking for an excuse to not date her.


So you're saying we look like our designer? Be clear so we can know exactly what you think about this designer.

[Blake]

You and all your misguided Darwin supporters need all those Apes doing cool shit videos to help rationalize your insane theories.

Maybe one day if you look hard enough you may find on Goggle a gorilla that can actually create his own Facebook page, hell you may literally have an orgasm.

As for me I just need DNA.

How many humans were able to create a Facebook page 100 years ago

[Avante]

I'll be damn, Buck Owens was actually from North Carolina and not Bakersfield?

[Avante]

As of right now I own all 19 books that make up the Jack Reacher saga by Lee Childs.

Reacher is 6-5 250, how Hollywood thought Tom Cruise could play the part....????

[clambake]

screw that. tell us all about adam and eve.

[Avante]

screw that. tell us all about adam and eve.

Wanna try that again slick? Jack Reacher far more interesting than Adam & Eve.

[clambake]

Wanna try that again slick? Jack Reacher far more interesting than Adam & Eve.

well.....sport.....you said evolution is a crock because of adam and eve.

could you educate us about this?

[mouse]

How many humans were able to create a Facebook page 100 years ago

All of them. all that is needed is WiFi

Im sure poeple back then had friends and likes.


According to your logic monkeys and apes today are more human like then they were in the 1800s?

You can't have it both ways if you want to pull out the back then in the 1800s card you have to support it all the way.

[mouse]

So you're saying we look like our designer? Be clear so we can know exactly what you think about this designer.

Alternative Design doesn't have to know about how or why we are here, that is why it will someday be the popular choice amongst intelligent thinkers.

The debate is between religion and Darwin supporters.

I only chime in when unproven bullshit is posted as facts.

[Blake]

Alternative Design doesn't have to know about how or why we are here

The title of your theory implies the "how", Aristotle.

[Avante]

well.....sport.....you said evolution is a crock because of adam and eve.

could you educate us about this?

Where did I ever say anything about the Bible being valid, show me? I have never said anything about that because I don't believe any of it is true, ok? So why the lie?

[clambake]

So all those churchs, all those religions, all that gospel music all this....

In God We Trust
Christmas
So Help Me God
I Swear To God
Easter
One Nation Under God

Is all a load of bullshit, right?

And no you can't have Adam & Eve and evolution, ok?


No way in hell I'm going to go with some onvious idiots on a messageboard who obviously stuggle out in that real world.

I don't know (nobody does) what actually went dowm, what I do know is that it didn't happen by chance. That would be impossible so "something" is behind all this and it should be obvious.

Can we track all living creatures back to fish, of course not and only idiots would think we could.

poor guy. must be in those twilight years.

[Avante]

poor guy. must be in those twilight years.

Do I really need to show you all the times I've talked about not buying ther Bible/God? That was me talking about why people who believe in God/Bible take the stance they do. I did assume it was obvious since I've made it very clear I don't buy it.

[clambake]

thats not what you said. i bolded it for you.

no worries. maybe you should exit this thread.....permanently.

[Avante]

thats not what you said. i bolded it for you.

no worries. maybe you should exit this thread.....permanently.

Dummy, if you've read this thread at all I've mentioned numerous times how I don't believe in the Bible/God...ok? I assumed that was very obvious since I've mentioned it many times. I assumed everyone in this thread knew that.

I didn't make it clear what I was doing there, I do see that.

Dude, don't be stupid ok?

Here ya go slugger....


So many questions, so few answers.

Even those who believe in God can't agree on how to worship Him. The Lutherans, the Pentecostals, the Baptists, Jehovah Witnesses, Islam and on and on. It's real easy to see the confusion.

How do we explain the theory of evolution and Adam & Eve?

In my life experiences it appears to me that most people simply don't care if their God makes any sense, they need Him. They want more than this so they have more than this. While those who prefer to deal with hard cold facts are content to have just this and they do.

Grandma die and shes now in a better place that sooths the minds of those who loved her. For the hard cold facts gang, granny is simply dead, deal with it.

Right now we are all gearing up for Christmas, buying things with money that reads...In God We Trust. That is the power this God has, the impact He has made on us. Most have no need to question His existant, what do you gain by going that route? Others prefer the old..."if you can't prove it, it never happened".....as we all know they are few.

[clambake]

you make a statement, i call you on it, then you call me stupid.

normally, people mature with age.

[clambake]

you make a statement, i call you on it, then you call me stupid.

normally, people mature with age.

[Avante]

you make a statement, i call you on it, then you call me stupid.

normally, people mature with age.

How could you not know my stance on this? I assumed everyone in this thread did. I was talking as if I were a Christian.

Dude, there was no Adam and Eve,ok? No Jesus, no Moses, no David etc etc...ok? Sorry ya didn't get what I was doing there, I do see how that could be done if ya hadn't followed the thread.

You are stupid if you think you are going to tell me anything, ok?

[clambake]

You are stupid if you think you are going to tell me anything, ok?

anyone that would do something, based on what others were doing, cannot be told anything.

[Blake]

How could you not know my stance on this? I assumed everyone in this thread did. I was talking as if I were a Christian.

Dude, there was no Adam and Eve,ok? No Jesus, no Moses, no David etc etc...ok? Sorry ya didn't get what I was doing there, I do see how that could be done if ya hadn't followed the thread.

You are stupid if you think you are going to tell me anything, ok?

what's your thoughts on where the first people came from?

Did they just get dropped off in some caves?

Were they already adult?

How many were there?

Do you ever think of these things that come with your theory or do you just block it out and go back to your crusty track and field almanacs?

[Avante]

This really is amazing, ha~~~~~~~~~~~

Avante...hey Blake, ya suck little fuck, ok? Now add you're an idiot, ok? So because of that I'm going to ignore your dumb ass, ok? So stop following me aroind, got it?

And what do we CONSTANTLY see from this germ, yep, him begging me to toss him a bone, is this sad to watch or what? Who here would follow someone around who told you not to?

Poor little queer.

[Blake]

Translation: coming up with a working theory of the first people on the planet is beyond your IQ pay grade. Got it.

[Avante]

As we all can see this freak has no clue what.....you are too dumb to waste time on....means. Here he is yet again.

Who is so hard up that have to follow others around who don't even talk to them? This Blake freak is one fucked up little shit, wow~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

Why did fish stop leaving the sea for land to evolve into other creatures?

Anyone ever seen a fish wandering around in the woods looking for fish food?

[tbdog]

Why did fish stop leaving the sea for land to evolve into other creatures?

Anyone ever seen a fish wandering around in the woods looking for fish food?

Stop asking Why, and ask how or when. Why is a silly question. Evolution doesn't have a reason other than just adapting gradually. Adapting is the key word here. The species doesn't have to get bigger, stronger, harder to kill, but rather adapt to survive and the traits of the genes follow. What is interesting however is that these fish developed feet to walk the land, and then some went back in the ocean and they lost their feet, eg the whales.

[Blake]

Why did fish stop leaving the sea for land to evolve into other creatures?

Anyone ever seen a fish wandering around in the woods looking for fish food?

when the mudskipper picture gets posted here, do you really not understand what it is?

[Avante]

Stop asking Why, and ask how or when. Why is a silly question. Evolution doesn't have a reason other than just adapting gradually. Adapting is the key word here. The species doesn't have to get bigger, stronger, harder to kill, but rather adapt to survive and the traits of the genes follow. What is interesting however is that these fish developed feet to walk the land, and then some went back in the ocean and they lost their feet, eg the whales.

We all know that my man, ok? The thing is why did it all stop? Nobody has ever been on any beach ever and here comes this fish waddling out of the ocean.

How in the hell could we have fish ever evolve into an ant? Really, a fish can evolve into a rhino and a ant, how stupid is that? There are how many species of ants? It all started with some fish?

I;m not buying it and how could anyone?

What creature leaves it's natural surroundings to try and survive somewhere foreign to them? That make sense? Why would a fish want to try land over it's home, well? They just guess that they can waddle over to some fish food on land, right?

This.....it just takes time...is bullshit.

[Avante]

So you take the kids to the zoo...

kid..where did the elephant evolve from daddy?
daddy....a fish.
kid...ok

a few days later in the backyard.

kid...look at all these ants, where did they evolve from daddy?
daddy....a fish

kid....huh?

[Avante]

So during the football games Saturday, they show this mascot dog or something doing pushups. It's belt had come undone and was hanging there about a foot (right beneath him), as it humped away, the visuals, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[tbdog]

So you take the kids to the zoo...

kid..where did the elephant evolve from daddy?
daddy....a fish.
kid...ok

a few days later in the backyard.

kid...look at all these ants, where did they evolve from daddy?
daddy....a fish

kid....huh?

Well ants came from something similar to wasps. We actually all came from bacteria, then the first intelligent life was in the ocean like fish, so on and so forth. It was about 3.5 billion years for bacteria to develop on earth. But before that we all came from stardust and not fish or bacteria. In a sense.

I think your the kid in the story and all this evolution stuff is going over your head, either because of lack of education or religious doctrine. You kinda need to pick up a book where the author is known.

[tbdog]

We all know that my man, ok? The thing is why did it all stop? Nobody has ever been on any beach ever and here comes this fish waddling out of the ocean.

How in the hell could we have fish ever evolve into an ant? Really, a fish can evolve into a rhino and a ant, how stupid is that? There are how many species of ants? It all started with some fish?

I;m not buying it and how could anyone?

What creature leaves it's natural surroundings to try and survive somewhere foreign to them? That make sense? Why would a fish want to try land over it's home, well? They just guess that they can waddle over to some fish food on land, right?

This.....it just takes time...is bullshit.


Researchers at McGill University published in the journal Nature, turned to a living fish, called Polypterus, to help show what might have happened when fish first attempted to walk out of the water. Polypterus is an African fish that can breathe air, 'walk' on land, and looks much like those ancient fishes that evolved into tetrapods. The team of researchers raised juvenile Polypterus on land for nearly a year, with an aim to revealing how these 'terrestrialized' fish looked and moved differently.

The fish showed significant anatomical and behavioural changes. The terrestrialized fish walked more effectively by placing their fins closer to their bodies, lifted their heads higher, and kept their fins from slipping as much as fish that were raised in water. “Anatomically, their pectoral skeleton changed to become more elongate with stronger attachments across their chest, possibly to increase support during walking, and a reduced contact with the skull to potentially allow greater head/neck motion,” says Trina Du, a McGill Ph.D. student and study collaborator.

https://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/channels/news/walking-fish-reveal-how-our-ancestors-evolved-land-238477

[tbdog]

We all know that my man, ok? The thing is why did it all stop? Nobody has ever been on any beach ever and here comes this fish waddling out of the ocean.

That is not how evolution works. A fish doesn't all of a sudden walk.



How in the hell could we have fish ever evolve into an ant? Really, a fish can evolve into a rhino and a ant, how stupid is that? There are how many species of ants? It all started with some fish?

Yes, sort of. We came from star dust, then bacteria first.

I;m not buying it and how could anyone?


What creature leaves it's natural surroundings to try and survive somewhere foreign to them? That make sense? Why would a fish want to try land over it's home, well? They just guess that they can waddle over to some fish food on land, right?

Again, it doesn't work that way. They gradually venture on land, further and further until they don't need to stay in the water. It takes thousand's to millions of generations.


This.....it just takes time...is bullshit.

Evolution is used so much in our everyday lives, most noticeable medication and antibiotics. You are willing to listen to a doctor and medication to combat a cold yeah?

[Blake]

So you take the kids to the zoo...

kid..where did the elephant evolve from daddy?
daddy....a fish.
kid...ok

a few days later in the backyard.

kid...look at all these ants, where did they evolve from daddy?
daddy....a fish

kid....huh?

That's a stupid dad

[Avante]

Well ants came from something similar to wasps. We actually all came from bacteria, then the first intelligent life was in the ocean like fish, so on and so forth. It was about 3.5 billion years for bacteria to develop on earth. But before that we all came from stardust and not fish or bacteria. In a sense.

I think your the kid in the story and all this evolution stuff is going over your head, either because of lack of education or religious doctrine. You kinda need to pick up a book where the author is known.

Dude, trust me this isn't over anyones head , ok? What it is however is stupid, ok? Hell no there wasn't nothing then all of a sudden something, ok man is that over your head? Some glob of goo on an ocean bottom all of a sdudden came to life, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What we are seeing is nobody knows shit about how it all happened, so we gets a bunch of stupid opinions trying to explain away things we cant explain.


For years footballers were given salt tablets in practice, some dummy came up with that idea, then it was found out that's the last thing ya want to do. So much for science.


No way in hell ya can trace all living creatures back to sea dwellers ok?

[tbdog]

Dude, trust me this isn't over anyones head , ok? What it is however is stupid, ok? Hell no there wasn't nothing then all of a sudden something, ok man is that over your head? Some glob of goo on an ocean bottom all of a sdudden came to life, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What we are seeing is nobody knows shit about how it all happened, so we gets a bunch of stupid opinions trying to explain away things we cant explain.


For years footballers were given salt tablets in practice, some dummy came up with that idea, then it was found out that's the last thing ya want to do. So much for science.


No way in hell ya can trace all living creatures back to sea dwellers ok?

I am sorry, but it is going over your head. You want to observe a fish all of a sudden walk, or an ape give birth to a human. But that is not how evolution works. If that ever happened, then evolution is wrong. All museums around the world would be stripped down. You will probably get a prize for pointing this out. What you want to ‘see’ macroevolution and not microevolution. You want to see a species changed dramatically, in a generation or two. But it takes hundreds of thousands, even millions, or tens of millions of years for that to happen. Microevolution happens all time, like humans, especially in Asia are not being born with wisdom teeth. Because wisdom teeth are not needed anymore due to dental care, and our diet are making wisdom teeth useless. And for some reason how the Asian face is structure, it is even more crowded, therefore that is why we are seeing less and less of them being born with wisdom teeth.

We won’t see in our lifetime a human population where everyone is born without wisdom teeth. But it appears that is what is occurring. And what is the point of ear lobes. We won’t be alive when, or if they are used or evolve to something else. We believe the reason behind the evolution process behind the ear lobe was for extended sexuality necessary for pair bonding. The point is, these small micro changes are currently observable, but they are minor and don’t resemble the required evidence of macroevolution that you have decided to required to believe.

You need to separate observing and seeing. An example of observing is Pluto. We have only discovered Pluto in 1930, however we know that Pluto takes 248 years to orbit around the sun. How can we have known that we have haven’t seen it happen? We use evidence from other means to prove the distance required to travel to complete the journey. That is how we prove macroevolution. We cannot see it happen but we use other evidence to prove the journey of say the human race.

But we have ‘seen’ evolution at work. And there are plenty of examples. My favourite one is the Italian wall lizards. They introduced these lizard to an island. They were left for decades, and later compared them to the original lizards. The wall lizards on the island adapted. They were found to have shifted from a mainly insectivorous diet to a vegetation one. Due to this, their heads were larger, and has a far greater bite force. They also development of cecal valves, muscles used to separate portions of the intestine. These serve to slow the passage of food through the intestine and give time for the bacteria in the gut to breakdown the plant matter for absorption. This is a major adaptation that we observed in a few generations of the lizard.

Science makes predictions from facts and created hypnosis and theories. Sometimes, often actually, they get it wrong. That is what science is about. It is about finding the truth. The National Academy of Sciences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Academy_of_Sciences) (U.S.) makes this point, ‘Scientists most often use the word "fact" to describe an observation. But scientists can also use fact to mean something that has been tested or observed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing or looking for examples. The occurrence of evolution in this sense is a fact. Scientists no longer question whether descent with modification occurred because the evidence supporting the idea is so strong.’

A fun fact:
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. If you were to condense the history of earth on a 24 hour clock, life appears at around 4am, land plants at 10:24pm, dinosaur extinction at 11:41pm, and humans would've began at 11:58:43pm. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/evolution-of-life-on-earth-video-45-billion_n_2212926.html) We have only just arrived.

[Avante]

I'm not going to read all that shit guy, can't believe you'd think anyone would. I get it, you're a morion, ok?

It's not as if I want to keep bumping this thread up, it's just that the stupid threads you little people come up totally suck. So here I am.

How about elevating your game, ok?

[BacktoBasics]

I always thought Avante was an idiot. Almost exclusively out of his need to get an infantile rise out of people and general childish responses but come to find out his level of stupidity runs much deeper than that.

[SpursforSix]

I'm not going to read all that shit guy, can't believe you'd think anyone would. I get it, you're a morion, ok?

It's not as if I want to keep bumping this thread up, it's just that the stupid threads you little people come up totally suck. So here I am.

How about elevating your game, ok?



http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/o/omarion/album-o.jpg

[mouse]

209 pages any evidence my ancestor was a mino?

[Avante]

I always thought Avante was an idiot. Almost exclusively out of his need to get an infantile rise out of people and general childish responses but come to find out his level of stupidity runs much deeper than that.

I'm just your basic intellectual who knows human nature and as you can see I do know all the tricks. What better way to knock out 300 pages (my new goal) than watching total morons trying to peddle...WE WERE FISH I TELL YA!!!!!!!!....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about stupid there it is.

Oh yeah, fuck you!

[Avante]

209 pages any evidence my ancestor was a mino?

Anyoner thinking we can trace the spider, rhino, hummingbird, human, worm, fly, cat all back to some fishies is one dumb fuck. But you know that.