Evolution...?

[Avante]

Ok fans, this is the game.

I come off as a know it all because well.....I know it all. As you can see there will always be that little gang who simply can't handle anyone thinking they know it all so it's....I MUST PROVE HIM WRONG, I MUST...hahaha!!!!!!!!

I do have fun with it and as you can see they just can;t do it, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blake]

I come off as a know it all because well.....I know it all.

you didn't know about hillbillies in Arkansas.

the game is to make fun of you for it and watch you spin around and melt down into a salty puddle of fat.

[SpursforSix]

you didn't know about hillbillies in Arkansas.

the game is to make fun of you for it and watch you spin around and melt down into a salty puddle of fat.

zoooom. You know the difference between things little one? hahaha. This is easy. You are dumb even for a litt;e kid. I know a lot of things about a lots of ting;s.
You really think I can't do this all day?

how about...yes...some blues....

CPMyZ1ESTLs

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.6egHy6Gsv6oEZE6AdmrE1w&pid=15.1&P=0

[Avante]

you didn't know about hillbillies in Arkansas.

the game is to make fun of you for it and watch you spin around and melt down into a salty puddle of fat.

Well actualy dummy I once said...

Avante...so what's it's like being a hillbillie now? (right after Vicki moved back there)
Vicki...not a hill in sight.

HA~~~~~

Actually stupid well aware of some trying to stick hillbillies in Arkansas, but it's weak and there are other places where it fits far better. But being an idiot you don't get that.

Work with me moron.

Avante...I live in California.
Stranger...ah....beachs, surfing, bikinis.
Avante...ah.....nope! Live in Fresno.

I know...ZOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

[SpursforSix]

Well actualy dummy I once said...

Avante...so what's it's like being a hillbillie now? (right after Vicki moved back there)
Vicki...not a hill in sight.

HA~~~~~

Actually stupid well aware of some trying to stick hillbillies in Arkansas, but it's weak and there are other places where it fits far better. But being an idiot you don't get that.

who's Vicki?

[Avante]

zoooom. You know the difference between things little one? hahaha. This is easy. You are dumb even for a litt;e kid. I know a lot of things about a lots of ting;s.
You really think I can't do this all day?

how about...yes...some blues....

CPMyZ1ESTLs

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.6egHy6Gsv6oEZE6AdmrE1w&pid=15.1&P=0
Blues???

THIS...is them blues.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlHzrkxeTGU

[Blake]

You're too much like a hillbilly to understand what a goal part move is tbh

[Avante]

who's Vicki?

My wifes sister.

[Avante]

You're too much like a hillbilly to understand what a goal part move is tbh

I'm not the one who thinks Little Rock has shit to do with the Ozarks, that's your dumb ass.

Stupid, tell me what does the Golden Gate Bridge have to do with Bakersfield, well?

[Blake]

I'm not the one who thinks Little Rock has shit to do with the Ozarks, that's your dumb ass.

Stupid, tell me what does the Golden Gate Bridge have to do with Bakersfield, well?

Yeah, you moved the goal post again, dummy.

[SpursforSix]

My wifes sister.

is she hot? is she at least hillbilly hot?

[SpursforSix]

I'm not the one who thinks Little Rock has shit to do with the Ozarks, that's your dumb ass.

Stupid, tell me what does the Golden Gate Bridge have to do with Bakersfield, well?

I always knew the correct name of this song. But for some reason, I always associate it with Bakersfield and think the song happens there. But then I'm like...oh yeah...Baker Street.
Anyway...one of the most memorable sax riffs every.

x-Yi762sQTo

[SpursforSix]

Well damn. I just learned that Gerry Rafferty is Scottish. And the song was named after Baker Street in London.

[SpursforSix]

he sure seemed to fit seamlessly with the American singer/songwriter group from the 70's.

NSfOB8ANdWU

[Avante]

Yeah, you moved the goal post again, dummy.

No I'm not dummy.

Dude, ya live up in those hills in Kentucky, yep...a hillbillie. Living around Little Rock, hmmm?

Don't get it do ya stupid?

[Avante]

is she hot? is she at least hillbilly hot?

Does it matter?

[Avante]

I always knew the correct name of this song. But for some reason, I always associate it with Bakersfield and think the song happens there. But then I'm like...oh yeah...Baker Street.
Anyway...one of the most memorable sax riffs every.

x-Yi762sQTo

Apparently you've never been to Bakersfield. But, there is a Baker Street there, was actually at a Thrift Shop right around there about a month ago.

I like that song.

[Avante]

Let;s have some Fink.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCeA5Vl29k


Now who would I mix him with?

How about our resident leg humpers pass on this one, ok? Looking for those like myself who know the music.

[spurraider21]

Wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~

Little man do you pay any attention at all? There is no band/artist I'm not aware of other than Gospel/Opera..ok ya dumb fuck?
you hadn't even heard of Triumph when i brought them up and they're in the Canadian hall of fame with several gold/platinum albums

[SpursforSix]

Let;s have some Fink.


Now who would I mix him with?

How about our resident leg humpers pass on this one, ok? Looking for those like myself who know the music.

here's some fink

8Uee_mcxvrw

[SpursforSix]

you hadn't even heard of Triumph when i brought them up and they're in the Canadian hall of fame with several gold/platinum albums

hells yeah
lots to choose from but I'll throw out some blues for the old timer

ScuwBnXgCv8

[Avante]

you hadn't even heard of Triumph when i brought them up and they're in the Canadian hall of fame with several gold/platinum albums

Huh?

[Avante]

hells yeah
lots to choose from but I'll throw out some blues for the old timer

ScuwBnXgCv8

This is what seperates me from everyone else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTC_TnKNd6s

Now tell me who taught Robert Lockwood the gee-tar?

[SpursforSix]

This is what seperates me from everyone else.


Now tell me who taught Robert Lockwood the gee-tar?

Pee Pee the Kidnapper?

[Avante]

Pee Pee the Kidnapper?

It's...Peanut the Kidnapper and he was a piano player.

Show me you're not just another dumb kid here, ok? Find it.

[SpursforSix]

It's...Peanut the Kidnapper and he was a piano player.

Show me you're not just another dumb kid here, ok? Find it.

here's a cool track

qtLw_53C95M

[spurraider21]

Huh?
what's confusing? you didnt know who triumph was

[SpursforSix]

what's confusing? you didnt know who triumph was

LOL.

Doesn't know it's wrong to have sex with teenagers
Doesn't know where Ozarks are

expected to know who Triumph are

[spurraider21]

Wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~

Little man do you pay any attention at all? There is no band/artist I'm not aware of other than Gospel/Opera..ok ya dumb fuck?


That last bracket you posted is incredibly weak compared to the others.... most of those guys were basically 1, 2, or 3 hit wonders. I guess I'll go with SRV and Double Trouble, but they'll be promptly eliminated by any of my winners from the other brackets, and probably a good 20-25 other bands from those brackets, tbh

edit: fuck it, i seriously can't vote for SRV to win a bracket, so i'll insert a new band you didn't include, Triumph. One of my favorite bands ever, and they never really blew up outside of Canada. They'd smoke every band on that last list

So my winners of the 5 brackets are...

Aerosmith, The Kinks, Queen, Rush, Triumph


I don't wanna debate anyones musical opinion. This isn't about that. I will tally things up if I get enought interest.

As I mentioned my D was those I had forgotten, as we can see there was a reason for that?

Not at all familiae with Triumph which surprises me.

[Avante]

what's confusing? you didnt know who triumph was

So what does that have to do with what I said?

[Avante]

LOL.

Doesn't know it's wrong to have sex with teenagers
Doesn't know where Ozarks are

expected to know who Triumph are

What? Do you have any idea at all how legal it is to have sex with teenagers?

Everyone knows where the Ozarks are.

Yep, wasn't familiar with Triumph, which shocked the hell out of me.

[spurraider21]

So what does that have to do with what I said?
you said "There is no band/artist I'm not aware of other than gospel/opera"

triumph is a band you were not aware of. and they were quite notable.

so it had a lot to do with what you said

you dumbass

[Avante]

you said "There is no band/artist I'm not aware of other than gospel/opera"

triumph is a band you were not aware of. and they were quite notable.

so it had a lot to do with what you said

you dumbass

Do you think at all before posting?

Do I...NOW..know who Triumph is, well? Didn't I know about them before posting "There isn't a....."...well?

Dude, you can't be this stupid.

Little guy you will never ever find anyone who knows music like I do, trust me on that.

[Avante]

Now I know how a rhino feels with a swam of gnats swarming around his ass, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, little pests.

Fucking spurraider, dumb as a rock.

[spurraider21]

lol so triumph is the one only bad you had never heard of? lol

[Avante]

lol so triumph is the one only bad you had never heard of? lol

Actually I have heard of them, but knowing trying to sell that wouldn't work.

Yep, I got it covered, hip hop, punk, reggae, alternative, soul, blues, rock, country, rap, folk, bluegrass. Why fight it?

You did take biology, hahaha!!!!!!!

[SpursforSix]

What? Do you have any idea at all how legal it is to have sex with teenagers?

Everyone knows where the Ozarks are.

Yep, wasn't familiar with Triumph, which shocked the hell out of me.

LOL. A little too much there.

[Avante]

LOL. A little too much there.

translation

Yep, pretty stupid of me to forget about just what is legal age. Some countries it's like 16. Yep...DUH!!!!!!!!!

[spurraider21]

olongopo's age of consent is 11?

[SpursforSix]

translation

Yep, pretty stupid of me to forget about just what is legal age. Some countries it's like 16. Yep...DUH!!!!!!!!!

Well...in some countries, it's legal to eat babies. Do you do that also?

[Avante]

olongopo's age of consent is 11?

Then ya wonder why I think you're an idiot.

Little man, do you really think...BARS..hired 11 year old girls to hustle...DRINKS...well?

Dude, do you know anything at all? The...BARS!!!!!!!!!!!!..made their money off selling...DRINKS...ok stupid? Now think just a little bit, ok moron?

Dude, you're almost as dumb as Blake.

[Avante]

Well...in some countries, it's legal to eat babies. Do you do that also?

So ya now realize just how stupid you were, right? Hell dummy, you had somebody in your family who was pregnant at 18 or 19, right?

Think before ya post, ok?

[SpursforSix]

So ya now realize just how stupid you were, right? Hell dummy, you had somebody in your family who was pregnant at 18 or 19, right?

Think before ya post, ok?

How 'bout you keep Officer Wrinkle in your pants and quit trying to perf on 4th graders. Sick old man.

[Avante]

How 'bout you keep Officer Wrinkle in your pants and quit trying to perf on 4th graders. Sick old man.

Not going to work little guy.

Now tell us all again about how your dumb ass didn't know the legal age was 18 and younger in a lot of places, well?

Come on stupid, how didn't you know that? Answer the question!

[SpursforSix]

Not going to work little guy.

Now tell us all again about how your dumb ass didn't know the legal age was 18 and younger in a lot of places, well?

Come on stupid, how didn't you know that? Answer the question!

I have no idea. I'm not an international lawyer.

But whether it's legal or not, I don't think it's normal or OK for you to have made sailor love to a 14 year old Asian transvestite.

[Avante]

I have no idea. I'm not an international lawyer.

But whether it's legal or not, I don't think it's normal or OK for you to have made sailor love to a 14 year old Asian transvestite.

Dude, nobody is talking about being an international lawyer, ok? So you actually thought a woman had to be 20? Are you kidding me? You do know that women as young as 16 are getting married every day?

You really this ignorant?

ONE MORE TIME....how didn't you know the legal age was 18? Answer the question.

[Avante]

So which is it?

Do we all come here to play this silly shit I/most play or do we need to be serious, well?

[SpursforSix]

Dude, nobody is talking about being an international lawyer, ok? So you actually thought a woman had to be 20? Are you kidding me? You do know that women as young as 16 are getting married every day?

You really this ignorant?

ONE MORE TIME....how didn't you know the legal age was 18? Answer the question.

You answer first. How could you have sex with a 14 year old boy dressed like a woman?

[Avante]

You answer first. How could you have sex with a 14 year old boy dressed like a woman?

Dude, stop trying to evade the question, ok?

So you actually thought the legal age was 20? Are you really that fucking ignorant? Answer my question, cool your bullshit.

[SpursforSix]

Dude, stop trying to evade the question, ok?

So you actully thought the legal age was 20? Are you really that fucking ignorant? Answer my question, cool your bullshit.

You actually thought it was under 15?

[Avante]

You actually thought it was under 15?

Dude, answer the question? Tell all of us where 20 is the legal age of consent, where is that at?

Are you capable of answering a question? No more tap dance bullshit, ok?

So how is it you didn't know the legal age of consent is 18? Answer the fucking question stupid, ok?

And ya dumb fuck, the legal age of consent over there was something silly like 15 in the early 70's.

Legal ages of consent ya dumb fuck.

Montenegro 14
Netherlands 16
New Zealand 16
Norway 16
Philippines 12 (18 for money, profit or other consideration under the influence of an adult)
Papua New Guinea (homosexuality illegal at any age)
Poland 15
Portugal 16
Romania 18
Russia 14
San Marino 14

[SpursforSix]

Dude, answer the question? Tell all of us where 20 is the legal age of consent, where is that at?

Are you capable of answering a question? No more tap dance bullshit, ok?

So how is it you didn't know the legal age of consent is 18? Answer the fucking question stupid, ok?

And ya dumb fuck, the legal age of consent over there was something silly like 15 in the early 70's.

Legal ages of consent ya dumb fuck.

Montenegro 14
Netherlands 16
New Zealand 16
Norway 16
Philippines 12 (18 for money, profit or other consideration under the influence of an adult)
Papua New Guinea (homosexuality illegal at any age)
Poland 15
Portugal 16
Romania 18
Russia 14
San Marino 14

is that from your travel cheat sheet

[Avante]

is that from your travel cheat sheet

Is that your way of saying you have no clue at all about you talk about?

You're an idiot asshole, ok?

[SpursforSix]

Is that your way of saying you have no clue at all about you talk about?

You're an idiot asshole, ok?

you're a pecker breath dinky doo

[Avante]

you're a pecker breath dinky doo

So ya totally fucked up looking dumber than a rock and are trying everything to make it about me. hahaha!!!!!

Hey stupid, how in the hell did you think the legal age was 20?

Dude, until you give me a real answer that's where we're going to be, now aswer the fucking question?

[SpursforSix]

So ya totally fucked up looking dumber than a rock and are trying everything to make it about me. hahaha!!!!!

Hey stupid, how in the hell did you think the legal age was 20?

Dude, until you give me a real answer that's where we're going to be, now aswer the fucking question?

here's a joke I just made up...

What time is bedtime at the Avante house?
When the big hand touches the little hand.

[Avante]

here's a joke I just made up...

What time is bedtime at the Avante house?
When the big hand touches the little hand.

translation

Damn that Avante, he exposed me for the idiot I am. Yep, I said something totally stuipd and now I'm trying my best to change the subject. But that damn Avante is seeing that. Ok ok I fucked up, I am an idiot. I did learn my lesson however, don;;t mess with Avante, stick to messing with the Kools. the Blakes, spurraider, they are more on my level.

[Avante]

Five reasons white people don't like Mexicans.

They can't figure out anything so you have to stand in lines longer as they try to figure it out.

We are called in for more jury duty because they are always in some stupid kind of trouble.

They haul the whole tribe everywhere they go.

They have more kids than they can afford so the state has to step in costing us $$$$$

They can't drive for shit, and they have no insurance.

[SpursforSix]

Five reasons white people don't like Mexicans.

They can't figure out anything so you have to stand in lines longer as they try to figure it out.

We are called in for more jury duty because they are always in some stupid kind of trouble.

They haul the whole tribe everywhere they go.

They have more kids than they can afford so the state has to step in costing us $$$$$

They can't drive for shit, and they have no insurance.

hahhahah. Oooo....I have a joke.

What the difference between a Taco and Avante?

The taco doesn't have sex with kids.

[Avante]

hahhahah. Oooo....I have a joke.

What the difference between a Taco and Avante?

The taco doesn't have sex with kids.

Not working guy as you can see.

So how in the hell did you think the age of consent was 20? Well?

[SpursforSix]

Not working guy as you can see.

So how in the hell did you think the age of consent was 20? Well?

How are Avante and a racecar similar?

The racecar drives around and Avante licks balls.

[Avante]

How are Avante and a racecar similar?

The racecar drives around and Avante licks balls.

Come on guy, you actually this fucked up?

So you really thought the legal age of consent was 20, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOO=PEED!!!!!!

[SpursforSix]

Come on guy, you actually this fucked up?

So you really thougHt the legal age of consent wAs 20, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOO=PEED!!!!!!

OK. I give. What's with this line of questioning?

[Avante]

OK. I give. What's with this line of questioning?

I had some hope for ya slugger, you did appear to be a step up from ChumpStupid, Clipper Faggot, spermbank and Blake the Flake. Nope, you're just as stupid.

Bummed!

[SpursforSix]

I had some hope for ya slugger, you did appear to be a step up from ChumpStupid, Clipper Faggot, spermbank and Blake the Flake. Nope, you're just as stupid.

Bummed!

Oh well. Guess you'll have to carry on alone.

2-lGhKrypb0

[Avante]

"Carry on Alone"

we had it all
were as happy as could be
then my baby got sick
scared the hell out of me

so we went to the doctor
to see what was wrong
after an inspection
he said she didn't have long

we both cried
and held on tight
if there is a God
this just isn't right

now here I stand
looking down on her grave
chilled to the bone
not sure I can
carry on alone

[Avante]

Lee Child's Jack Reacher novels, who is into them?

Anyone familiar with James Lee Burke?

What's kinds funny is that I liked both authors right off the bat, not knowing they were into them old blues. Both have mentioned old blues cats in their novels, hmmmmm?

[Avante]

This thread is a great study in human nature.

I want 200 pages, just for the fuck of it. Now what are you people going to do? Yep, avoid it like the plague, the..."no way I help this fucker out"....watch, this like everything else will go exactly as I said it would.

Yep, the master.

[ChumpDumper]

This thread is a great study in human nature.

I want 200 pages, just for the fuck of it. Now what are you people going to do? Yep, avoid it like the plague, the..."no way I help this fucker out"....watch, this like everything else will go exactly as I said it would.

Yep, the master.Jesus, we can taste your tears through the interwebs.

[Avante]

Jesus, we can taste your tears through the interwebs.

This was simply too predictable, hahaha!!!!!!! All you reading this saw what what I was doing there, right? Then there's this freak, wow~~~~~~~~~~

Here's what we're going to do Chump and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it as we will see. I'm going to use and abuse you son, yep use your....I MuST SUCK AVANTES DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!....to get my 200 pages. You will do this, so get your ass in here, now!

Do I know my shit or what?

[ChumpDumper]

This was simply too predictable, hahaha!!!!!!! All you reading this saw what what I was doing there, right? Then there's this freak, wow~~~~~~~~~~

Here's what we're going to do Chump and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it as we will see. I'm going to use and abuse you son, yep use your....I MuST SUCK AVANTES DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!....to get my 200 pages. You will do this, so get your ass in here, now!

Do I know my shit or what?this was simply too predictable. I point out the fact that you are crying like a bitch and you cry like a bitch.

Do I know my shit or what?

Now cry some more. Show us how badly we hurt you.

200 pages of your crying like a bitch.

[Avante]

Whatever

Hey little guy what really is your motivation to do what you do each and every day? Like right now for instance what are you really trying to accomplish?

Drop the internet silliness and come real, ok

[Blake]

Whenever anyone "comes real" you get very angry and melt down with ad hominems, YouTubes and retarded lists.

[Blake]

Because you're a fucking idiot

[Avante]

Whenever anyone "comes real" you get very angry and melt down with ad hominems, YouTubes and retarded lists.

Ok Blake let me ask you...

Why this need to go around seeing how many people you can bug in a 24 hour period? Now this is where you will totally ignore the question and talk about the one asking the question, watch.

[Avante]

Because you're a fucking idiot

So why are you here?

You appear to have some hang up with..."I really smart, you're not smart"...ha~~~ Blake what's that bit all about? You seem to really be obsessed with..."I so smart"...dude, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm dead serious Blake you don't strike me as being overly smart, if ya were you wouldn't act like you do.

[Avante]

Ok, this how Chump operates.

He'll be back I gurantee it, he'll just wait awhile so my...now!...isn't in play.

Watch.

[Avante]

Back in the days of Frank Gifford. These were the top running backs for each NFL team.

Giants..Frank Gifford
Redskins...Don Bosseler
Eagles...Timmy Brown
Steelers...John Henry Johnson
Browns...Jim Brown
Cowboys..Don Perkins
Cards..John David Crow
Colts...Lenny Moore
Niners...J.D.Smith
Rams...Dick Bass
Lions...Nick Pietrasonte
Packers...Jim Taylor
Bears...Rick Casares (Willie Galimore)

[spurraider21]

Because you're a fucking idiot
and he's fat... all we need to find out is that he's a drunk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoPq5AOCOA

[Avante]

This is who Frank Gifford was.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-QR1BYiWYA

[Avante]

and he's fat... all we need to find out is that he's a drunk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoPq5AOCOA

We all get it idiot, you think you were a fish, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[spurraider21]

We all get it idiot, you think you were a fish, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
i was never a fish. i was born a human being, and i'm still a human being.

[Avante]

So tell me little guy if we traced your ancestry back as far as it could go, where would we end up?

[spurraider21]

So tell me little guy if we traced your ancestry back as far as it could go, where would we end up?
most likely a single celled organism

[Avante]

most likely a single celled organism

Right there is what's wrong with evolution.

You said..."most likely"...didin't I mention that? All this..."we are led to believe".."there is a good chance"..."odds are"...'MOST LIKELY".

What's with that?

[spurraider21]

Right there is what's wrong with evolution.

You said..."most likely"...didin't I mention that? All this..."we are led to believe".."there is a good chance"..."odds are"...'MOST LIKELY".

What's with that?
because we weren't there to see it. the evidence definitely points to that direction, and it's the most logical conclusion given the information we know.

a lot of things we accept as fact are also "most likely" scenarios. like why the dinosaurs died out, or when humans first formed civilizations

[Avante]

because we weren't there to see it. the evidence definitely points to that direction, and it's the most logical conclusion given the information we know.

a lot of things we accept as fact are also "most likely" scenarios. like why the dinosaurs died out, or when humans first formed civilizations

So you expect me/others to except evolution as fact despite all the guessing, right?

[spurraider21]

So you expect me/others to except evolution as fact despite all the guessing, right?
given what we know, it is by far the most plausible explanation. there isn't a close second

[Avante]

given what we know, it is by far the most plausible explanation. there isn't a close second

So why do we need an explanation until we have absolute proof?

[SpursforSix]

So why do we need an explanation until we have absolute proof?

I'll take a stab...

Things not said by Isaac Newton.

[Avante]

I'll take a stab...

Things not said by Isaac Newton.

Ha~~~~~

It needs to be...

We don't know for certain about our origins. We are working on it however.

[SpursforSix]

Ha~~~~~

It needs to be...

We don't know for certain about our origins. We are working on it however.

either way. I'm pretty sure that it involves aliens though. It's the simplest explanation that can be reconciled with all the facts we have today.

[spurraider21]

So why do we need an explanation until we have absolute proof?
because if that was your standard, then science and technology would never progress

[apalisoc_9]

human evolution biggest hole is the lack of DNA tracing.

[spurraider21]

human evolution biggest hole is the lack of DNA tracing.
you keep repeating this even though DNA and genetics have been some of the strongest evidence for evolution

[apalisoc_9]

None of what human evolution says today answers the questions of hereditary variations, nor does it explain the gradual accumulation of a single cell into a more complex form.

It hasn't been able to explain the sudden appearance of the most basic life divisions in plants and some animals about 600 million years ago. How did these lifeforms gradually evolve?

There is always a missing link from the Old Darwin theory to modernist evolution even after years of trying to recreate darwins theory with less missing links.

The human evolution in Particular has many chains that is missing from one single cell to a full complex body.

Let's say Humans evolved from Fish, we're just going to have to go back and question how a single form gradually evolved to a more complex fish. None of the theories today explain this.

While animal evolution is plausible, the way the general public. scientific coomunity treats is a result of egotistical human pride..From wanting to know who we are and where we came from. The reality is that, we don't.

Human Evolution is probably just as plausible as creation...

[spurraider21]

its like you have no idea what mutation/variation is

[mouse]

because if that was your standard, then science and technology would never progress

Is your definition of "Progress" having Science continuously shove the Darwin we Evolved from apes bullshit that is still in the classroom texts books even after the discovery of DNA and what we now know about how complex it is then you have no backbone or mental capability to admit your sometimes wrong.

[RandomGuy]

Back in the days of Frank Gifford. These were the top running backs for each NFL team.

Giants..Frank Gifford
Redskins...Don Bosseler
Eagles...Timmy Brown
Steelers...John Henry Johnson
Browns...Jim Brown
Cowboys..Don Perkins
Cards..John David Crow
Colts...Lenny Moore
Niners...J.D.Smith
Rams...Dick Bass
Lions...Nick Pietrasonte
Packers...Jim Taylor
Bears...Rick Casares (Willie Galimore)

Lightweight stuff for a lightweight mind.

I see you have yet to actually address any of the evidence supporting evolution with anything other than whining and attempts to change the subject of your own thread.

Carry on, boy.

[RandomGuy]

None of what human evolution says today answers the questions of hereditary variations, nor does it explain the gradual accumulation of a single cell into a more complex form.

It hasn't been able to explain the sudden appearance of the most basic life divisions in plants and some animals about 600 million years ago. How did these lifeforms gradually evolve?

There is always a missing link from the Old Darwin theory to modernist evolution even after years of trying to recreate darwins theory with less missing links.

The human evolution in Particular has many chains that is missing from one single cell to a full complex body.

Let's say Humans evolved from Fish, we're just going to have to go back and question how a single form gradually evolved to a more complex fish. None of the theories today explain this.

While animal evolution is plausible, the way the general public. scientific coomunity treats is a result of egotistical human pride..From wanting to know who we are and where we came from. The reality is that, we don't.

Human Evolution is probably just as plausible as creation...

A request for evidence and understanding. Fair enough.

First point.

"None of what human evolution says today answers the questions of hereditary variations, nor does it explain the gradual accumulation of a single cell into a more complex form."
Answers:

Heredity and Variation Definition

All living organisms reproduce. Reproduction results in the formation of offspring of the same kind. A pea plant produces only pea plants each time it reproduces. A rat produces only rats. Humans produce only humans. However, the resulting offspring need not and most often do not totally resemble the parent. Several characteristic differences may occur between individuals belonging to the same species. The similarities and differences among the members of a species are not coincidental. Both the similarities and differences have been received from their parents. The mechanism of transmission of characters, resemblances as well as differences, from the parental generation to the offspring, is called as heredity. The differences shown by individuals within the same species and in the offspring, are described as variations. The scientific study of heredity, variations and the environmental factors responsible for these, is known as genetics.
http://www.tutorvista.com/content/biology/biology-iii/heredity-and-variation/heredity-and-variation.php

Genetics and mutations very adequately explain variations, as well as accumulations of complexity.

( a bit more on that at the link here: http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variation/mutation/)
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"[Evolution] hasn't been able to explain the sudden appearance of the most basic life divisions in plants and some animals about 600 million years ago. How did these lifeforms gradually evolve?"

Mutation and natural selection explain all gradual evolution, including the "sudden appearance".
If you want to know the specifics of both, there are lots of resources available. You can start at the links above.

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"There is always a missing link from the Old Darwin theory to modernist evolution even after years of trying to recreate darwins theory with less missing links."

Not quite a logically coherent thought, but missing links would be expected simply because of the way fossil records work.

I don't need to know the missing letters in this sequence:
1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, ..., 12, 13, 14, 15 ....

To be able to reasonably guess the rule that governs the set as "add one to the preceding number" We don't need to know the missing integers to be able to draw pretty reasonable conclusions. The same goes for the "missing link" fossils that many seem to think are required for a working theory.

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"The human evolution in Particular has many chains that is missing from one single cell to a full complex body. "

No, not really. We pretty much have used phylogeny and genetics to fill it in.

More recent developments:
http://humanorigins.si.edu/education/intro-human-evolution

The gradual refining/adding/changing of traits from ancestors can be roughly understood through the application of both:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetics

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"Let's say Humans evolved from Fish, we're just going to have to go back and question how a single form gradually evolved to a more complex fish. None of the theories today explain this."

Actually, yes there are mountains of evidence.
One can start with fish, then go to fish that can spend limited time out of water, like mudskippers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudskipper
http://rateeveryanimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Mudskipper_duet.jpg

Then move on to amphibians, who can spend much longer out of water, then on to other animals, and so on.

It takes a bit of reading to follow the progression, but the evidence is there, if you take the time to read it.

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"While animal evolution is plausible, the way the general public. scientific coomunity treats is a result of egotistical human pride..From wanting to know who we are and where we came from. The reality is that, we don't."

"pride" is not really the essence of how science works. Either you have a working theory, supported by as much available evidence or you don't.

An individual theory is not arrogant.Iit just is.

If I had a theory about the number of marbles in a jar, it is not "arrogant" to test that. It is also fully possible for you to re-test my theory and data to see if I am right. That is how we arrive at the best, most useful, model of the universe we can get.

Overall, the theory of evolution is one of the best supported ones we have.

It does take a fair amount of reading to get to a decent understanding of it, though.

I can provide more links if you wish.

[mouse]

I like how TLongII and RandomLie love to post the picture of the fish that can walk around land to somehow justify Darwin's bullshit theory of Evolution.


where is the photo of the 1/2 fish 1/2 rat? (known as the Fat) or the 1/2 rat 1/2 raccoon? (known as the RatCoon)



Where is the photo of the Ape after shaving and getting dressed leaving the zoo to catch the bus to go to work? (known as the black panhandler / pimp)



I'm sure you can even find pics of a fish leaping out of the water does that prove they become Eagles?

[spurraider21]

who says there is supposed to be a 1/2 fish 1/2 rat?

if only you judged the evidence for a designer as harshly as you judged that for evolution

[Avante]

To think all it takes is time and a fishy whatever will evolve into a multitude of other creatures with no similarities at all has got to be some form of mental retardation.

Now to talk a wolf evoving into some other form of canine , ok that's believable. Some ancient cat becoming todays kitty, ok I can buy that.

What is beyond stupidity is thinking we can trace the origins of the rat and the giraffe back to the same creature. That's simply stupid.

[Avante]

I've been having this big problem lately. I'll go out into my Fortress of Solitude to chill with some music and I can't decide what to chill with. So I just stand there contemplating...

Marc Cohn
The Rolling Stones
The Silencers
Peetie Wheatstraw
Dr.John
Nat King Cole
Patsy Cline
Mark Lemhouse
Bonnie Raitt
Ray Lamontagne
Leonard Cohen
Elvis
The Grateful Dead
Nina Simone
Red Hot Chillie Peppers
The Drifters
Scrapper Blackwell
SRV
Eric Clapton
Peter Green
Robert Palmer
Lyle Lovett
Robert Johnson
Bessie Smith
Bob Marley
Billy Idol
David Bowie
Muddy Waters
Jimmy Reed
The Beatles
The White Strips
Hank Williams
Carl Perkins
Howlin' Wolf
Sonny Boy Williamson
The Jayhawks
Big Bill Broonzy
Blind Blake
Waylon Jennings
Willie Nelson
Janis Joplin
Jimi Hendrix
Black Oak Arkansas
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
John Mayall
Cream
Country Joe & The Fish
The Allman Brothers
David Allan Coe
Leon Redbone
Frank Sinatra
Billie Holliday
Jellyroll Morton
Miles Davis
Ma Rainey
Blind Willie McTell
Furry Lewis
Son House
Lucinda Williams
Ray Wylie Hubbard
JJ Cale
BB King
Bukka White
Tommy Johnson
Skip James
Prince
Chris Isaak
Frankie Lymons & The Teenagers
Furlin Husky
Graham Parsons
Hank Snow
Jack Greene
Patsy Montana
King David Jug Band
Jimmie Davis
Dock Boggs
King Solomon Hill
Cryin' Sam Collins
Barbecue Bob
Talking Heads
Everlast
Grant Lee Buffalo
REM
CCR
ZZ Top
Delbert McClinton
Townes Van Zandt
John Lee Hooker
Bob Wills & His Texas Playboy
Johnny Cash
Frankie Lee Sims
Memphis Jug Band
Lead Belly
Taj Mahal
Otis Taylor
Donovan
The Who
The Yardbirds
Bob Dylan
Tom Waits
Paul Weller
Gus Cannon Jug Stompers
Memphis Minnie
Blind Willie Johnson
Lowel Fulsom
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Rogers
Lefty Frizzell
George Jones
The Black Keys
Uncle Tupelo
The Hollies
Billy Joe Royal
Simon & Garfunkel
The Righteous Brothers
Big House
Chris Thomas King
Confederate Railroad
Dwight Yokum
Shawn Mullins
Willie Ames
Ritchie Sambora
Walter Trout
Jonnie Lang
Derek Trucks
John Mellencamp
Kenny Wayne Shepard
Gov't Mule
The Why Store
Tony Joe White
Fenton Robinson
Blind Boy Fuller
Ishman Bracey
Big Joe Williams
Charley Patton
Blind Lemon Jefferson
Lightnin' Hopkins
Dion
Ricky Nelson
Eddie Cochran
The Moody Blues
Robin Trower
Traffic
Savoy Brown
Gene Vincent
Willy DeVille
Johhny "Slim" Campbell
Bruce Cockburn
James McMurtry
Greg Brown
Mose Allison
Alvin Lee
Shelia Wilcoxson
Gypsy
James Brown
Robert Pete Williams
Mance Lipscomb
Mississippi Fred McDowell
R.L.Burnside
James Kimbrough
John Hammond
Dave Van Ronk
Casey Bill Weldon
Kokomo Arnold
Champion Jack Dupree
Bill Monroe
Flatt & Scruggs
Hazel Dickens

Hmmmm?

[Avante]

And if I can't find it there.....

Smokey Hogg
Garfield Akers
The Zombies
Eric Burdon and the Animals
The Doors
The Band
Henry Townsend
Roosevelt Sykes
Bubby Guy
Little Walter
Junior Wells
Otis Spann
Blind Mamie
The Sparks Brothers
Ernest Tubb
Victoria Spivey
Ramblin' Thomas
Texas Alexander
Blind Joe Taggard
Jerry Lee Lewis
Amos Milburn
Big Joe Turner
Ray Charles
Charles Brown
Doc Watson
Memphis Slim
Jazz Gillum
Woody Guthrie
Arlo Guthrie
Fats Domino
Professor Longhair
Lightnin' Slim
Sunnyland Slim
Louisiana Slim
Homesick James
Roy Orbison
King Wilkie
Slaid Cleaves
Harry Manx
Rose City Kings
James Harman
William Clarke
Jeff Beck
Rod Stewart
Sleepy John Estes
Tony Hollins
Noah Jones
Rory Block
JoAnn Kelly
Jeremy Spencer
Black Sabbath
The Eagles
Jethro Tull
Papa Charley Jackson
Marc Broussard
Hawkshaw Hawkins
Black Bottom McPhail
Black Ace
Black Boy Shine
Black Ivory King
Leroy Carr
Lonnie Johnson
The Shirelles
Chuck Berry
Bo Diddley
The Crows
Buddy Knox
Jody Reynolds
The Clash
Iggy Pop & The Stooges
Robert Belfour
Kenny Brown

[phyzik]

To think all it takes is time and a fishy whatever will evolve into a multitude of other creatures with no similarities at all has got to be some form of mental retardation.

Now to talk a wolf evoving into some other form of canine , ok that's believable. Some ancient cat becoming todays kitty, ok I can buy that.

What is beyond stupidity is thinking we can trace the origins of the rat and the giraffe back to the same creature. That's simply stupid.

or, perhaps, you are too stupid to understand the science behind genetic mapping. Just like the spelling of EVOLVING.

One thing you might try is actually LEARNING about this stuff to understand the reasoning behind it instead of plugging your ears with your fingers and denying it because some sand dwellers 2000+ years ago made something up because they didn't understand.

[Blake]

I've been having this big problem lately. I'll go out into my Fortress of Solitude to chill with some music and I can't decide what to chill with. So I just stand there contemplating...

Marc Cohn
The Rolling Stones
The Silencers
Peetie Wheatstraw
Dr.John
Nat King Cole
Patsy Cline
Mark Lemhouse
Bonnie Raitt
Ray Lamontagne
Leonard Cohen
Elvis
The Grateful Dead
Nina Simone
Red Hot Chillie Peppers
The Drifters
Scrapper Blackwell
SRV
Eric Clapton
Peter Green
Robert Palmer
Lyle Lovett
Robert Johnson
Bessie Smith
Bob Marley
Billy Idol
David Bowie
Muddy Waters
Jimmy Reed
The Beatles
The White Strips
Hank Williams
Carl Perkins
Howlin' Wolf
Sonny Boy Williamson
The Jayhawks
Big Bill Broonzy
Blind Blake
Waylon Jennings
Willie Nelson
Janis Joplin
Jimi Hendrix
Black Oak Arkansas
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
John Mayall
Cream
Country Joe & The Fish
The Allman Brothers
David Allan Coe
Leon Redbone
Frank Sinatra
Billie Holliday
Jellyroll Morton
Miles Davis
Ma Rainey
Blind Willie McTell
Furry Lewis
Son House
Lucinda Williams
Ray Wylie Hubbard
JJ Cale
BB King
Bukka White
Tommy Johnson
Skip James
Prince
Chris Isaak
Frankie Lymons & The Teenagers
Furlin Husky
Graham Parsons
Hank Snow
Jack Greene
Patsy Montana
King David Jug Band
Jimmie Davis
Dock Boggs
King Solomon Hill
Cryin' Sam Collins
Barbecue Bob
Talking Heads
Everlast
Grant Lee Buffalo
REM
CCR
ZZ Top
Delbert McClinton
Townes Van Zandt
John Lee Hooker
Bob Wills & His Texas Playboy
Johnny Cash
Frankie Lee Sims
Memphis Jug Band
Lead Belly
Taj Mahal
Otis Taylor
Donovan
The Who
The Yardbirds
Bob Dylan
Tom Waits
Paul Weller
Gus Cannon Jug Stompers
Memphis Minnie
Blind Willie Johnson
Lowel Fulsom
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Rogers
Lefty Frizzell
George Jones
The Black Keys
Uncle Tupelo
The Hollies
Billy Joe Royal
Simon & Garfunkel
The Righteous Brothers
Big House
Chris Thomas King
Confederate Railroad
Dwight Yokum
Shawn Mullins
Willie Ames
Ritchie Sambora
Walter Trout
Jonnie Lang
Derek Trucks
John Mellencamp
Kenny Wayne Shepard
Gov't Mule
The Why Store
Tony Joe White
Fenton Robinson
Blind Boy Fuller
Ishman Bracey
Big Joe Williams
Charley Patton
Blind Lemon Jefferson
Lightnin' Hopkins
Dion
Ricky Nelson
Eddie Cochran
The Moody Blues
Robin Trower
Traffic
Savoy Brown
Gene Vincent
Willy DeVille
Johhny "Slim" Campbell
Bruce Cockburn
James McMurtry
Greg Brown
Mose Allison
Alvin Lee
Shelia Wilcoxson
Gypsy
James Brown
Robert Pete Williams
Mance Lipscomb
Mississippi Fred McDowell
R.L.Burnside
James Kimbrough
John Hammond
Dave Van Ronk
Casey Bill Weldon
Kokomo Arnold
Champion Jack Dupree
Bill Monroe
Flatt & Scruggs
Hazel Dickens

Hmmmm?

Yawn

[mouse]

who says there is supposed to be a 1/2 fish 1/2 rat?


Well according to Science, we started off as a wiggly thing and then somehow we became a fish, maybe with your vast background on this subject you can somehow find the time to help me properly fill in the wiggly thing to man gaps on my Evolution chart so I know the more or less when the rat came about. how about a hint, was it before or after the lizard?




if only you judged the evidence for a designer as harshly as you judged that for evolution

Sure lets see


Proof of Design


http://wiki.ironchariots.org/images/thumb/1/1d/Cat_eye.jpg/250px-Cat_eye.jpg

https://cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/img/cms/content/contentnode/header_image/design-in-nature.jpg

http://www.godandscience.org/images/universe/milkywaygalaxy.jpg

https://sepetjian.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/order.jpg

https://sepetjian.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/bee_and_flower-2865.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy310/wld011/animated%20icons/a2417dc0.gif


http://loe.org/content/2014-03-07/17-DNA.gif

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/el582bwTF68/maxresdefault.jpg













Proof of Evolution






http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/876/493/humanjawbone640360030515.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

[RandomGuy]

I like how TLongII and RandomLie love to post the picture of the fish that can walk around land to somehow justify Darwin's bullshit theory of Evolution.

where is the photo of the 1/2 fish 1/2 rat? (known as the Fat) or the 1/2 rat 1/2 raccoon? (known as the RatCoon)

I'm sure you can even find pics of a fish leaping out of the water does that prove they become Eagles?

None of those exist, because that is not what evolution and natural selection do.

It is a bit like asking someone with a theory about how many marbles are in a jar, why there are no pictures of fish in the jar.

[RandomGuy]

[same shit I have said before, that has been debunked already]

Meh.

[RandomGuy]

[tries to change the subject]

Meh. Your OP, your responsibility to flesh it out.

Why is it that you really are too lazy to do so?

[SpursforSix]

Meh. Your OP, your responsibility to flesh it out.

Why is it that you really are too lazy to do so?

Do you completely disregard any possibility of alien interference in the DNA chain somewhere in the past?
Just curious.

[Avante]

or, perhaps, you are too stupid to understand the science behind genetic mapping. Just like the spelling of EVOLVING.

One thing you might try is actually LEARNING about this stuff to understand the reasoning behind it instead of plugging your ears with your fingers and denying it because some sand dwellers 2000+ years ago made something up because they didn't understand.

Stupid is seeing someone type ...evolving...and then say they can't spell it, when it was an obvious typo the second time. Then ya wonder why you are seen as an idiot.

[Avante]

Yawn

translation

Being a simple little shit, I can just hump legs.

[Avante]

Meh. Your OP, your responsibility to flesh it out.

Why is it that you really are too lazy to do so?

I;ve already did all the work, way too many......"we are led to believe"...."chances are"...."it could have been"...for me.

[mouse]

None of those exist, because that is not what evolution and natural selection do.

It is a bit like asking someone with a theory about how many marbles are in a jar, why there are no pictures of fish in the jar.

Then in your words explain how wiggly fish evolved into a horse so a simple minded person like myself can understand it.

[Avante]

To the idiots here who buy into.....we were fish.

Don't send me anywhere, no video. I want you to tell me how a fish evolved into an elephant and a fly? Come on, no bullshit. simple lingo explaining how a fish evolved into an elephant anda fly.

Now remember, there was no life, right? Then one day here comes this thing waddled onto shore...right? From this thing.....the cow, the bird. the insect, the gorilla, the human.....right?

Go ahead elaborate on how that happens and I promise I'll read all of it.

[Blake]

To the idiots here who buy into.....we were fish.

Don't send me anywhere, no video. I want you to tell me how a fish evolved into an elephant and a fly? Come on, no bullshit. simple lingo explaining how a fish evolved into an elephant anda fly.

Now remember, there was no life, right? Then one day here comes this thing waddled onto shore...right? From this thing.....the cow, the bird. the insect, the gorilla, the human.....right?

Go ahead elaborate on how that happens and I promise I'll read all of it.

mudskipper.gif

[Avante]

mudskipper.gif

OK, so delve into what was the motivation to evolve into anything? What the mudskipper wasn't happy as is? How did it become a bird or even know about flight, well? Elaborate.

[mouse]

mudskipper.gif



Blake the original one string banjo.




http://38.media.tumblr.com/c20c61411af5af0a2e13abf7cbdabba4/tumblr_n6bcc1Zm9X1td73xio1_400.gif

[Blake]

OK, so delve into what was the motivation to evolve into anything? What the mudskipper wasn't happy as is? How did it become a bird or even know about flight, well? Elaborate.

It's been elaborated enough already. You're just too stupid to get it.

[Avante]

It's been elaborated enough already. You're just too stupid to get it.

I will never figure out why an obvious idiot like you would want to talk intelligence. Dude, ya don't know anything.

I'll try again....

Hey moron, why would a fish prefer land to the sea? And what are the odds of a male and female fishy ending up on the same beach at the same time, well? And, how come fishies aren't doing that today? Who has ever seen a fish wandering around on land at some stage of evolving? Well?

Is this one dumb fuck or what?

[Avante]

So this fish, starting evolving during it's life time, right? How old was this fish when he left the sea? How long do they live? So we had a mommy and daddy and baby fish....right? So they just left the sea and found a place to live on land......why?

So these baby fish, began to evolve...why? Do they do that today? Well?

Anyone out there stupid enought to not see how fucking ridiculous this is needs to stay in doors, they do not belong out in public.

[mouse]

I will never figure out why an obvious idiot like you would want to talk intelligence. Dude, ya don't know anything.

Is this one dumb fuck or what?


No one can be that ignorant and still have the know how to log on a website click on a forum and resume debating something it has to be ...


A) To proud to admit they may be wrong on some of the data.

B) To embarrassed to publicly admit they might have it wrong.

C) To far into publicly showing support for a clueless con artists like Darwin that pride kicks in and it's now macho mentality go down with the ship.

D) He's receiving some sort 0f grant or is employed by some government agency to be a dedicated Science / anti religion shill

E) He feels the only alternative to Evolution is to admit to a God and would go to his grave before he allows any other options.

F) He really knows Darwin is full of shit but can't resit pushing peoples buttons.

the list goes on.......

[Avante]

No one can be that ignorant and still have the know how to log on a website click on a forum and resume debating something it has to be ...


A) To proud to admit they may be wrong on some of the data.

B) To embarrassed to publicly admit they might have it wrong.

C) To far into publicly showing support for a clueless con artists like Darwin that pride kicks in and it's now macho mentality go down with the ship.

D) He's receiving some sort 0f grant or is employed by some government agency to be a dedicated Science / anti religion shill

E) He feels the only alternative to Evolution is to admit to a God and would go to his grave before he allows any other options.

F) He really knows Darwin is full of shit but can't resit pushing peoples buttons.

the list goes on.......

I hear ya, but what gets me about the dummy is how hard he tries to peddle..."I smart".....hahaha!!!!!!!

I once mentioned this running back named Nick Chubb (who I knew about from his HS days) who I knew was going to be a stud (and he is) well his first game wasn;t all that. So here comes this idot Blake with..."he only averaged..."....too stupid to know one game don't mean shit. Then Chubb went on to become one of the great backs of 2014 and is ranked in the top two/three in 2015.

Blake is a fucking moron.

[mouse]

Blake is a fucking moron.

or TRoll of the year?

[spurraider21]

So this fish, starting evolving during it's life time, right? How old was this fish when he left the sea? How long do they live? So we had a mommy and daddy and baby fish....right? So they just left the sea and found a place to live on land......why?

So these baby fish, began to evolve...why? Do they do that today? Well?

Anyone out there stupid enought to not see how fucking ridiculous this is needs to stay in doors, they do not belong out in public.
Evolution doesn't occur during the lifetime of one generation you dimwit

[Avante]

or TRoll of the year?

Nope, moron!

[Avante]

Evolution doesn't occur during the lifetime of one generation you dimwit

Well no shit ya fucking idiot, boy you're sharp.

So tell me stupid why evolve at all, well? What creatures are in some stage of evolution right now? Where are those fishies leaving the ocean now? We have never ever seen any fish in some stage of evolving into a hoofed creature.

Are you actually dumb enought to think a T-Rex evolved from a fish?

[Avante]

I always get a kick out of weirdos on the internet, don't they know nobody will ever..."yep, you were right and I was wrong"...? Who has ever seen that happen? I haven't have you? It's never going to happen.

And they work so damn hard at..."look I believe this, you need to agree with me, see"....hahahahaha!!!!!!!! It's fucking funny.

I'm in this kinda mood at 1:00 whatever on the west coast.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKiw94M2v8A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQes2Bh9A3w



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITHG--QRBg

[RandomGuy]

I;ve already did all the work, way too many......"we are led to believe"...."chances are"...."it could have been"...for me.

Ah, so the reason you are lazy is because you thought you did actual work. Gotcha. That is at least an answer to the question asked.

Breaking news: You didn't do any work, unless you call "hand waving" work.

[RandomGuy]

Then in your words explain how wiggly fish evolved into a horse so a simple minded person like myself can understand it.

time + mutation + natural selection

Not too difficult.

Genetic machinery occasionally makes errors, and not all of those errors are fatal. This introduces some variance in a population.

These variances are passed down to offspring.

If your environment favors a particular set of variances, those variances will increase in common-ness in a population.

Given enough time, and especially with geographic separation, you get new species, and the process continues.

Hope that is simple enough.

All you really have to accept is:
Parents pass on their genes to their offspring.
Mutations happen.
Some variances increase or decrease the chances of an organism to reproduce.

That's it.

If you accept those three things, then you pretty much understand and accept evolution.
You can throw in the overall age of the earth at billions of years, and you have the last piece of the puzzle.

[RandomGuy]

It's been elaborated enough already. You're just too stupid to get it.

Avante isn't really stupid, he is just lazy.

[RandomGuy]

Do you completely disregard any possibility of alien interference in the DNA chain somewhere in the past?
Just curious.

I can't rule it out conclusively, but I am not aware of any evidence that would support such an event.

In the sense that I won't accept it as true until someone shows me that it is true, yes I disregard it.

[RandomGuy]

So this fish, starting evolving during it's life time, right? How old was this fish when he left the sea? How long do they live? So we had a mommy and daddy and baby fish....right? So they just left the sea and found a place to live on land......why?

So these baby fish, began to evolve...why? Do they do that today? Well?

Anyone out there stupid enought to not see how fucking ridiculous this is needs to stay in doors, they do not belong out in public.

Translation:

"I'm too lazy to understand the theory involved".

This is, by the way, a strawman logical fallacy, in which you substitute a distorted idea for a real idea, then attack the distorted idea and think you made a point.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
http://churchm.ag/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Logical-Fallacies-strawman-620x391.jpg


The only thing you really proved is that you don't understand the idea, have so far been too lazy to understand it.

[RandomGuy]

To the idiots here who buy into.....we were fish.

Don't send me anywhere, no video. I want you to tell me how a fish evolved into an elephant and a fly? Come on, no bullshit. simple lingo explaining how a fish evolved into an elephant anda fly.

Now remember, there was no life, right? Then one day here comes this thing waddled onto shore...right? From this thing.....the cow, the bird. the insect, the gorilla, the human.....right?

Go ahead elaborate on how that happens and I promise I'll read all of it.


he Basic Process of Evolution
The basic theory of evolution is surprisingly simple. It has three essential parts:
It is possible for the DNA of an organism to occasionally change, or mutate. A mutation changes the DNA of an organism in a way that affects its offspring, either immediately or several generations down the line.

The change brought about by a mutation is either beneficial, harmful or neutral. If the change is harmful, then it is unlikely that the offspring will survive to reproduce, so the mutation dies out and goes nowhere. If the change is beneficial, then it is likely that the offspring will do better than other offspring and so will reproduce more. Through reproduction, the beneficial mutation spreads. The process of culling bad mutations and spreading good mutations is called natural selection.

As mutations occur and spread over long periods of time, they cause new species to form. Over the course of many millions of years, the processes of mutation and natural selection have created every species of life that we see in the world today, from the simplest bacteria to humans and everything in between.

...
That simplest life form, through the processes of mutation and natural selection, has been shaped into every living species on the planet.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution1.htm
Do you accept that mutations happen?

Not sure what piece of the puzzle you are really missing, so we can start with that. Lots of good information on the mechanics of mutation can be had, if you want to know all the various kinds of mutation.

[SpursforSix]

I can't rule it out conclusively, but I am not aware of any evidence that would support such an event.

In the sense that I won't accept it as true until someone shows me that it is true, yes I disregard it.

I hear you. And I don't have any evidence. But I do believe there is intelligent life out there. And if you make the jump to believing they've figured out space travel, then you have to assume they have already figured out manipulating DNA.
Anyway, lots of assumptions. But assuming those things, it seem easier to reconcile humans as we are today with what was in the past. More so than evolution with no outside help.

[RandomGuy]

I hear you. And I don't have any evidence. But I do believe there is intelligent life out there. And if you make the jump to believing they've figured out space travel, then you have to assume they have already figured out manipulating DNA.
Anyway, lots of assumptions. But assuming those things, it seem easier to reconcile humans as we are today with what was in the past. More so than evolution with no outside help.

How do you know it is more plausible that organisms on our planet had their DNA manipulated by aliens that not?


Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor and in Latin lex parsimoniae, which means 'law of parsimony') is a problem-solving principle devised by William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347), who was an English Franciscan friar and scholastic philosopher and theologian. The principle states that among competing hypotheses that predict equally well, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove to provide better predictions, but—in the absence of differences in predictive ability—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

I would not assume something without evidence, especially when it isn't required.

[SpursforSix]

How do you know it is more plausible that organisms on our planet had their DNA manipulated by aliens that not?

.

I just don't believe that natural evolution would have taken us to this point. To the point of humans today and everything we've created. Not to mention the complexities of the human mind. We are so unique and strange when compared to the rest of the animals on earth.

[spurraider21]

I just don't believe that natural evolution would have taken us to this point. To the point of humans today and everything we've created. Not to mention the complexities of the human mind. We are so unique and strange when compared to the rest of the animals on earth.
so outside of humans, do you buy evolution?

[SpursforSix]

so outside of humans, do you buy evolution?

Yeah...maybe. I don't know where the alien influence would have come in to play. But I guess it would be with early humans. I don't think they'd take a fish and screw with it to get to the eventual human. I don't know.

[spurraider21]

Yeah...maybe. I don't know where the alien influence would have come in to play. But I guess it would be with early humans. I don't think they'd take a fish and screw with it to get to the eventual human. I don't know.
so we're good with getting all the way to other primates

[SpursforSix]

so we're good with getting all the way to other primates

Yeah...I think so.

[phyzik]

Stupid is seeing someone type ...evolving...and then say they can't spell it, when it was an obvious typo the second time. Then ya wonder why you are seen as an idiot.

deflecting the core problem... you don't understand the science, and more importantly, don't want to understand the science.

Keep plugging your ears and believing those ancient sand dwellers. No sweat off my back if you decide to stay in the past. Only just a matter of time until your backwards beliefs die out... Time, understanding and science is on my side.

all you have is "God of the gaps". It might last long enough for your lifetime if you are lucky.... you might die holding onto your beliefs. Doesn't matter that you will be nothing more than worm food and nothing else, just like the rest of us.

[Avante]

deflecting the core problem... you don't understand the science, and more importantly, don't want to understand the science.

Keep plugging your ears and believing those ancient sand dwellers. No sweat off my back if you decide to stay in the past.

It's like this...

I have delved into the science and it's weak, all ya read is a bunch of.....led to believe...chances are....a good chance that. There are no...FACTS!!!!!! Just a bunch of....well maybe.

So cool youir bullshit, ok?

[phyzik]

It's like this...

I have delved into the science and it's weak, all ya read is a bunch of.....led to believe...chances are....a good chance that. There are no...FACTS!!!!!! Just a bunch of....well maybe.

So cool youir bullshit, ok?


except, there IS strong scientific evidence vs your unfounded, unsupported, and ultimately debunked beliefs.

You just refuse to accept, or even look at them, BECAUSE of your beliefs.

And no, I wont "cool my bullshit" because it is NOT bullshit. I have the scientific method to back me up... what do you have? a prayer? a belief? a hope?

I have fact. Peer reviewed and scientifically tested fact.

[phyzik]

It is so amazing to me how the brain works and just how insane normally smart people are.....

I could ask a group of people if they believe in unicorns/leprechauns/dragons/ghost/faries/demons/haunted houses/zombies/superstition/karma/astrology and most would scoff at that bullshit....

Mention some sky daddy to those same people and they fall to their knee's in prayer....

What the fuck do we call this mental disease???? It's probably not a mental disease... it is brain washing. People are just too weak to break the mental brain washing their parents gave them.

Fortunately, the trend is showing that the "believers" are dying off.... It may not happen by the end of my life but it IS happening.... The human race MAY have a chance if it happens fast enough.

The future will look back on this time period and thank those of us who fought to get rid of this backwards belief bigoted system of worship for a non-existent being.

[Avante]

except, there IS strong scientific evidence vs your unfounded, unsupported, and ultimately debunked beliefs.

You just refuse to accept, or even look at them, BECAUSE of your beliefs.

And no, I wont "cool my bullshit" because it is NOT bullshit. I have the scientific method to back me up... what do you have? a prayer? a belief? a hope?

I have fact. Peer reviewed and scientifically tested fact.


You're retarded!

[Avante]

It is so amazing to me how the brain works and just how insane normally smart people are.....

I could ask a group of people if they believe in unicorns/leprechauns/dragons/ghost/faries/demons/haunted houses/zombies/superstition/karma/astrology and most would scoff at that bullshit....

Mention some sky daddy to those same people and they fall to their knee's in prayer....

What the fuck do we call this mental disease???? It's probably not a mental disease... it is brain washing. People are just too weak to break the mental brain washing their parents gave them.

Fortunately, the trend is showing that the "believers" are dying off.... It may not happen by the end of my life but it IS happening.... The human race MAY have a chance if it happens fast enough.

The future will look back on this time period and thank those of us who fought to get rid of this backwards belief bigoted system of worship for a non-existent being.


I own a turtle smarting than you are.

[Blake]

I own a turtle smarting than you are.

Lol grammar

[Avante]

[QUOTE=Blake;8165640]Lol grammar[/QUOTE

How many ways can you say........

I own a turtle smarter than you are.

[phyzik]

[QUOTE=Blake;8165640]Lol grammar[/QUOTE

How many ways can you say........

I own a turtle smarter than you are.

Lol "smarting"....

LOL avoiding the subject.....

I own a turd "smarting" than you are!!!! :lol

I flushed it. it was a piece of shit, just like your beliefs. flush and forget. :(

[spurraider21]

It's like this...

I have delved into the science and it's weak, all ya read is a bunch of.....led to believe...chances are....a good chance that. There are no...FACTS!!!!!! Just a bunch of....well maybe.

So cool youir bullshit, ok?
you haven't delved into shit :lol... you're a community college dropout. and if you tried reading a science textbook yourself (which i doubt), you probably didnt understand shit without any instruction

[phyzik]

you haven't delved into shit :lol... you're a community college dropout. and if you tried reading a science textbook yourself (which i doubt), you probably didnt understand shit without any instruction

There are some topics I can agree with Avante on, I just believe he has to be trolling on this one though. Facing the OVERWHELMING evidence of evolution, there is only one other explanation.... He is unwilling to face the facts due to brainwashing.

He seems like a smart guy, hopefully if brainwashing is the cause, he can break it and learn for himself the realities of our ultimately insignificant lives when it comes to the vastness of the universe.

[Avante]

you haven't delved into shit :lol... you're a community college dropout. and if you tried reading a science textbook yourself (which i doubt), you probably didnt understand shit without any instruction

Will you ever figure out shit? Guy, there is nobody on this board or anyone you know better read than myself. My home library has over 10,000 books.

Yep, you can find....

Homer
Shakesphere
Nietzsche
Dickens
Fitzgerald
Stenbeck
Hemingway
Asimov
Wells
Malamud
Mailer
Lovecraft
Poe
London
Ellison
Heinlien
Clarke
Stapeldon
Hesse
Howard
L' Amour
Merritt
Patterson
Childs
Burke

....and on and on and on............


Trust me ya little moron I'd totally school your faggot ass on literature. Wanna talk....

James Baldwin
Ralph Ellison
Richard Wright

...well? How about the poetry of Langston Hughes?

You;re a fucking retard asshole.

[Avante]

There are some topics I can agree with Avante on, I just believe he has to be trolling on this one though. Facing the OVERWHELMING evidence of evolution, there is only one other explanation.... He is unwilling to face the facts due to brainwashing.

He seems like a smart guy, hopefully if brainwashing is the cause, he can break it and learn for himself the realities of our ultimately insignificant lives when it comes to the vastness of the universe.

I have a wide variety of interests, and a need to know. From what I;ve gathered over the years is there really isn't enought concrete evidence to support the fish story. That's what stops me from putting too much into that facet of the evolution saga. Something is wrong there. We didn't evolve from fish, but we obviously did change over the yers, nobody could dispute that,

We see a lot of dumb fucks like Blake/spurstupid and others who don't want anyone buying into a God, so it's important to them that ya buy the fish bullshxt. Yep, weird and stupid.

[Blake]

From what I;ve gathered over the years is there really isn't enought concrete evidence to support the fish story.


it's there, you're just too lazy and stupid to get it.



We see a lot of dumb fucks like Blake/spurstupid and others who don't want anyone buying into a God, so it's important to them that ya buy the fish bullshxt. Yep, weird and stupid.

I really don't care if you believe in God or not.

this has been explained to you numerous, numerous times:
evolution has nothing to do with God's existence. Plenty of believers understand that evolution is fact.

[spurraider21]

Will you ever figure out shit? Guy, there is nobody on this board or anyone you know better read than myself. My home library has over 10,000 books.

Yep, you can find....

Homer
Shakesphere
Nietzsche
Dickens
Fitzgerald
Stenbeck
Hemingway
Asimov
Wells
Malamud
Mailer
Lovecraft
Poe
London
Ellison
Heinlien
Clarke
Stapeldon
Hesse
Howard
L' Amour
Merritt
Patterson
Childs
Burke

....and on and on and on............


Trust me ya little moron I'd totally school your faggot ass on literature. Wanna talk....

James Baldwin
Ralph Ellison
Richard Wright

...well? How about the poetry of Langston Hughes?

You;re a fucking retard asshole.
Science textbooks aren't that type of literature you dimwit. They're unrelated. Ergo, that list was pointless

[Avante]

Science textbooks aren't that type of literature you dimwit. They're unrelated. Ergo, that list was pointless

You implied that reading was a chore for me, that's about the dumbest thing you've ever said. You really haven't noticed all this shit I know, come on guy.

I'd read all of Dickens, Fitzgerald, Poe before I left HS. I could ramble off a 100 authors right now your dumbass has never even heard of.

Who in the fuck sits down and reading boring ass books about boring ass evolution, well?

[Avante]

it's there, you're just too lazy and stupid to get it.



I really don't care if you believe in God or not.

this has been explained to you numerous, numerous times:
evolution has nothing to do with God's existence. Plenty of believers understand that evolution is fact.

How many threads have you started pretty much all saying......"bah humbug on religion".....well?

[Blake]

How many threads have you started pretty much all saying......"bah humbug on religion".....well?

maybe as many times that you've been told that religion has nothing to do with evolution. They're not opposites, you retarded piece of shit.

[Avante]

maybe as many times that you've been told that religion has nothing to do with evolution. They're not opposites, you retarded piece of shit.

What?

Stupid, you've heard of Adam & Eve right? Ya know Cain & Able? Ok ya dumb fuck how can we have that and our fish story, well?

Nobody should as dumb as you cock sucker.

[SpursforSix]

What?

Stupid, you've heard of Adam & Eve right? Ya know Cain & Able? Ok ya dumb fuck how can we have that and our fish story, well?

Nobody should as dumb as you cock sucker.

Shit. I figured you'd be halfway to Taiwan by now.

[Avante]

Shit. I figured you'd be halfway to Taiwan by now.

I always find it funny how ignorant this board is about something most grown ups are well aware of. You being the poster child for.....DUH~~~~~~

[SpursforSix]

I always find it funny how ignorant this board is about something most grown ups are well aware of. You being the poster child for.....DUH~~~~~~

Translation...you found out she was actually of age

[Avante]

Translation...you found out she was actually of age

Little man, that sailors in foreign bars thing goes back thousands of years, only a bunch of dumb kids like you don't get it.

[Avante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzDqCcTeSmY

[Blake]

I always find it funny how ignorant this board is about something most grown ups are well aware of. You being the poster child for.....DUH~~~~~~

Most educated grown ups are aware that evolution is fact. You're the DUH here, dummy.

[Blake]

What?

Stupid, you've heard of Adam & Eve right? Ya know Cain & Able? Ok ya dumb fuck how can we have that and our fish story, well?

Nobody should as dumb as you cock sucker.

The leader of the Catholic world endorses evolution. You just called the Pope stupid and dumb for having Adam & Eve and evolution. Bravo, dummy.

[RandomGuy]

I just don't believe that natural evolution would have taken us to this point. To the point of humans today and everything we've created. Not to mention the complexities of the human mind. We are so unique and strange when compared to the rest of the animals on earth.

Not really.

This is a flawed logical construction.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

https://brentwhite.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/personal_incredulity.jpg

We are neither all that unique, nor that unusual.

[Blake]

http://www.stonemakerargument.com/1/1d.jpg

[RandomGuy]

It's like this...

I have delved into the science and it's weak, all ya read is a bunch of.....led to believe...chances are....a good chance that. There are no...FACTS!!!!!! Just a bunch of....well maybe.

So cool youir bullshit, ok?

You haven't delved into the science, given your distortions and inability to re-state the concepts and theories accurately. Don't lie.

I am assuming that you are intelligent enough to understand it, if you had. I will give you at least that much.

[SpursforSix]

Not really.

This is a flawed logical construction.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

https://brentwhite.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/personal_incredulity.jpg

We are neither all that unique, nor that unusual.

Sorry...but that's a little disingenuous and honestly offensive to equate my thoughts on a very complex subject to me espousing it as truth. I'll be first in line to say I really don't know. Maybe it's partially my fault for not going into more detail. I don't have any problem accepting the possibility that we could have physically evolved to our current state. And even mentally to a point. My use of "unique" had nothing to do with any delusions of human grandeur. Quite the opposite. I'm on my phone but will try to explain in more depth tomorrow. Plus I have to get back to a spirited debate about headphones.

But you made a huge jump throwing out a logical fallacy that is normally applied to someone ignorant or closed minded about a subject. Especially in regards to evolution vs ceationism.

[SpursforSix]

And lol at Blake for waiting for someone to carry the load for him so he can post a picture instead of her own thoughts.

[Blake]

I've already posted my opinion on this.

[SpursforSix]

I've already posted my opinion on this.

I missed it. Was it a picture? Or a video?

[Blake]

I missed it. Was it a picture? Or a video?

if you want it, ask your question and I'll give you my own thoughts.

Fwiw, the picture is a funny hilarious take on the clockwork analogy

[Avante]

Most educated grown ups are aware that evolution is fact. You're the DUH here, dummy.

In all this time you still haven't figured out I know there was evolution. I just don't believe humans evolved from fish.

[SpursforSix]

In all this time you still haven't figured out I know there was evolution. I just don't believe humans evolved from fish.

Ah there you are. I was worried your prostate collapsed.

[Avante]

Ah there you are. I was worried your prostate collapsed.

Would you believe there are 4 of us who use this computer and play "Avante"?

[SpursforSix]

Would you believe there are 4 of us who use this computer and play "Avante"?

I certainly wouldn't dismiss it.

1. The blues aficionado
2. The sports list dude
3. The angry takes no shit guy
4. The child molester

[Blake]

In all this time you still haven't figured out I know there was evolution. I just don't believe humans evolved from fish.

that didn't stop you from calling the Pope dumb and stupid

[Avante]

I certainly wouldn't dismiss it.

1. The blues aficionado
2. The sports list dude
3. The angry takes no shit guy
4. The child molester

Actually it's...

1.Morris...body builder music freak (blues)
2.Lincoln...track/football fan
3.Paul...smart ass, evolution..???
4.Larry...x-Navy, a little of all those,

[Avante]

that didn't stop you from calling the Pope dumb and stupid

I bet he knows little about the nuts and bolts of it.

[Blake]

I bet he knows little about the nuts and bolts of it.

He's got a layman background in chemistry but is highly educated in philosophy.

You're calling people stupid that are far and away your intellectual superior. It's hilarious every time, dummy.

[Avante]

He's got a layman background in chemistry but is highly educated in philosophy.

You're calling people stupid that are far and away your intellectual superior. It's hilarious every time, dummy.

I seriously doubt that. I'd go as far as to say I'm the most inelligent person you know. I'd stack my wordly knowledge up against anyone. I don't think I have an equal when it comes to just knowing stuff. And, you see how I know human nature, look at what I do to you.

I don't thing anyone could beat me in overall intellect. While I might get beat in math I'd win in music, what I might lose in auto mechanics I'd win in literature, and on and on, I'm very well rounded. can talk about things you'd....huh? As would most.

I do get a kick out of you, you try so hard to peddle.."I smart"...when it's soooooooooooo damn obvious you're an idiot.

[Blake]

I'd go as far as to say I'm the most inelligent person you know.

You're easily one of the dumbest I know. Arguably the dumbest on this messageboard.

Seriously, you remind me of Nicholas Cage's character in "The Croods"

[Avante]

You're easily one of the dumbest I know. Arguably the dumbest on this messageboard.

Seriously, you remind me of Nicholas Cage's character in "The Croods"

Blake, we all get this internet game, ok? First off you aren't going to waste your time on some dummy. alright? What it is is that you're one of those who get off trying to bug those that make them feel inferior. You can save the..."no I don't".

You see me with all this knowledge about a multitude of subjects and it bugs you because you're so limited.

If this board were do go on a cruise and we ended up ship wrecked on some desolate island. in six months you'd all be working for me.

Think about this....

I could totally school every NFL/NCAA fan on their team, and I'm dead serious. And that's just one of my many talents.

[mouse]

deflecting the core problem... you don't understand the science,


Which Science are you referring to , the one that teaches us what will happen when you mix baking soda with Vinegar (what Science should be about)

or:

the Science that tries to teach religion to the students by printing in the textbooks how and when the earth and humans came about.

that Science? Stick with real Science and stop trying to act like universe origins and the beginning of mankind Theories are facts when they are not.


and more importantly, don't want to understand the science.

What is not to understand, I already know what happens when you mix baking soda with vinegar,


Keep plugging your ears


As soon as you take off the blindfold.


and believing those ancient sand dwellers. No sweat off my back if you decide to stay in the past. Only just a matter of time until your backwards beliefs die out...


That is your dream isn't it. for your beliefs to be the only beliefs left you want to win so bad its all you think about.




Time, understanding and science is on my side.

Then why wait for a topic to reach 200 pages why not show us all how Science explains how a fish becomes a monkey.





all you have is "God of the gaps". It might last long enough for your lifetime if you are lucky.... you might die holding onto your beliefs. Doesn't matter that you will be nothing more than worm food and nothing else, just like the rest of us.

That's why Evolution is so popular it teaches you at the end your nothing but worm food that way you have no inner spirit that will go onto the afterlife and that means you don't have to some day answer to anyone for your actions here on earth you get to live guilt free life.


Who doesn't want that?

[Avante]

I want one of our....YOU MUST BUY THE BULLSHIT....posters here to explain in your words just how did a fish become a monkey.

Sure, ancient bears evolved into another bear. Wolves and dogs. Monster cats into cats.I think everyone buys that. Where the bullshit comes in is expecting anyone to believe we can track all living creatures back to......a fish. That is beyond stupid and yes I've read the bullshit.

[mouse]

They won't ......and if they could, they wouldn't wait for a topic to go 200 pages.

They will just stall with replies like...

"You don't understand Science" "you have no clue how Evolution works" "straw man" Darwin supporter's bullshit replies are endless...

[phyzik]

Which Science are you referring to , the one that teaches us what will happen when you mix baking soda with Vinegar (what Science should be about)

or:

the Science that tries to teach religion to the students by printing in the textbooks how and when the earth and humans came about.

that Science? Stick with real Science and stop trying to act like universe origins and the beginning of mankind Theories are facts when they are not.

So... Let me get this straight.... you are claiming a book written 2000 years ago has it right and modern science, while not perfect, has it wrong....




What is not to understand, I already know what happens when you mix baking soda with vinegar,

What does vinegar and Soda have to do the the creation of life anyway?





As soon as you take off the blindfold.

How ironic, given the overwhelming evidence from my point of view....




That is your dream isn't it. for your beliefs to be the only beliefs left you want to win so bad its all you think about.

My "beliefs" as you put them are strictly tied to scientific scrutiny. If some day, the evidence points to something else, I will then follow THAT "belief". EVIDENCE is the key here, not blind faith regardless of what is presented to you.




Then why wait for a topic to reach 200 pages why not show us all how Science explains how a fish becomes a monkey

What is the point when there have been many posts showing lots of transitional fossils.... you just keep spouting "god of the gaps" nonsense.... In mathematical terms, I could show you inch by inch between 2 feet of measurement, but then you will request it by 1/2 inch measurements.... if I do that, then you will say what about 1/4 measurements..... if I do that, you will proclaim we never showed 1/8th measurements.... so on and so forth.... God of the gaps.




That's why Evolution is so popular it teaches you at the end your nothing but worm food that way you have no inner spirit that will go onto the afterlife and that means you don't have to some day answer to anyone for your actions here on earth you get to live guilt free life. Who doesn't want that?

Ahh... so you are basically claiming because I dont believe in a higher power, I have no morals.... Im just some rampaging murder machine who DGAF...


OK...

still waiting for the urge to rape and murder people because I dont have to answer to a sky daddy. maybe Im a broken heathen satanist.....

Or maybe I just realize what is right from wrong and dont need a sky daddy to hold me back from such monstrous thoughts. If the only thing holding YOU back from those dark thoughts is some imaginary freind, maybe you need to see a shrink and put yourself in a mental institution.

[Avante]

They won't ......and if they could, they wouldn't wait for a topic to go 200 pages.

They will just stall with replies like...

"You don't understand Science" "you have no clue how Evolution works" "straw man" Darwin supporter's bullshit replies are endless...

Notice how that little gang trying to peddle the bullshit are obvious social misfits? Look at how they act, hahaha!!!!! All of them knowing if they tried that silly shit anywhere else, people would laugh in their face.

I do pity the dumb fucks, family embarrashments I'm guessng.

[phyzik]

Notice how that little gang trying to peddle the bullshit are obvious social misfits? Look at how they act, hahaha!!!!! All of them knowing if they tried that silly shit anywhere else, people would laugh in their face.

I do pity the dumb fucks, family embarrashments I'm guessng.

Interesting since the firzt 20 pages are FULL of information... we provide it... you just refuse to look at it. Perhaps that is the reason we stopped.... the 200 pages is you fanatics trying to futily argue your nonsensical point of view.

[mouse]

So... Let me get this straight.... you are claiming a book written 2000 years ago has it right and modern science, while not perfect, has it wrong....

I don't support the bible, you should know this by now.






What does vinegar and Soda have to do the the creation of life anyway?


That's my point. Science needs to stay out of the religion business.




As soon as you take off the blindfold.

How ironic, given the overwhelming evidence from my point of view...


You have evidence my ancestor was a fish? please share it with us..




That is your dream isn't it. for your beliefs to be the only beliefs left you want to win so bad its all you think about.

My "beliefs" as you put them are strictly tied to scientific scrutiny.

If that was true you would have bailed out on the Darwin bullshit back when Piltdown man,Nebraska man, Lucy, and others were exposed as frauds.


If some day, the evidence points to something else, I will then follow THAT "belief".

Its right here.

http://seqcore.brcf.med.umich.edu/doc/educ/dnapr/rotatingdna.gif





EVIDENCE is the key here, not blind faith regardless of what is presented to you.


This is not faith, It's Science do the math.

1--tP49mOoE






Then why wait for a topic to reach 200 pages why not show us all how Science explains how a fish becomes a monkey.

What is the point when there have been many posts showing lots of transitional fossils...


You have a 1/2 fish 1/2 rat fossil please post them.





. you just keep spouting "god of the gaps" nonsense...

I don't support a God your confusing me with someone else.




. In mathematical terms, I could show you inch by inch between 2 feet of measurement, but then you will request it by 1/2 inch measurements.... if I do that, then you will say what about 1/4 measurements..... if I do that, you will proclaim we never showed 1/8th measurements...

Just post your best evidence I used to be a fish.



. so on and so forth.... God of the gaps.

I don't support a God but feel free to fill the gaps with your empirical Science.

[phyzik]

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Those 2 videos are for those that have the brain capacity and knowledge in science to understand what he is talking about...


Here is one for the less critical minded.... Mouse and Avante...

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It is so absurd to deny evolution, it is like denying oxygen or gravity exists.

[mouse]

I always read your replies that is how I know your being mislead.

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[Avante]

Interesting since the firzt 20 pages are FULL of information... we provide it... you just refuse to look at it. Perhaps that is the reason we stopped.... the 200 pages is you fanatics trying to futily argue your nonsensical point of view.

But where are those stone cold ...FACTS?

Scientists are still arguing evolution, why is that?

[phyzik]

But where are those stone cold ...FACTS?

Scientists are still arguing evolution, why is that?

I'd like to see your list of CREDIBLE scientists that are still arguing against evolution.... Not some jackhole that got a "science" degree from some creationist website he ordered it from.

Go ahead, name some names. I dare you.

What I mean by CREDIBLE, is scientist with PEER REVIEWED published papers that the rest of the scientific community believe plausible.... Not some crackpot with some wacky thought that the majority of the science community rejects.

and LOL at any "scientist" you present that believes in essentially what the Flintsones cartoon depicted.

[mouse]

I'd like to see your list of CREDIBLE scientists that are still arguing against evolution.... Not some jackhole that got a "science" degree from some creationist website he ordered it from.

Go ahead, name some names. I dare you.

What I mean by CREDIBLE, is scientist with PEER REVIEWED published papers that the rest of the scientific community believe plausible.... Not some crackpot with some wacky thought that the majority of the science community rejects.


Over 500 Scientists Proclaim Their Doubts About Darwin's Theory of Evolution

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/02/over_500_scientists_proclaim_t001981.html

[mouse]

scientists against evolution | Evolution is not science

https://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/tag/scientists-against-evolution/

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[phyzik]

Over 500 Scientists Proclaim Their Doubts About Darwin's Theory of Evolution

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/02/over_500_scientists_proclaim_t001981.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/21/science/sciencespecial2/21peti.html?oref=slogin&_r=0

[phyzik]

scientists against evolution | Evolution is not science

https://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/tag/scientists-against-evolution/

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Not that it really means anything, but you posted a video with just over 6000 views and has a like rate of about 33%.

Basically, most people understand the guy who made this video doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about... and I agree with them. The moment he mentions "observational science" his shit gets put in the flusher.... Evolution is not "observational" at all except in the context of fossil records...... The time frames we are talking about exceeds millenniums, not decades..... At least not in the context of what we are discussing.

[Avante]

I'd like to see your list of CREDIBLE scientists that are still arguing against evolution.... Not some jackhole that got a "science" degree from some creationist website he ordered it from.

Go ahead, name some names. I dare you.

What I mean by CREDIBLE, is scientist with PEER REVIEWED published papers that the rest of the scientific community believe plausible.... Not some crackpot with some wacky thought that the majority of the science community rejects.

and LOL at any "scientist" you present that believes in essentially what the Flintsones cartoon depicted.

You missed my point.

This latter fact reveals another point about evolution that is frequently misunderstood, especially by Fundamentalist Christians. Such people are used to having a rigidly defined dogma, in which there is only black or white, and all facts are either true or false, with very little room for error or debate. Thus*****they see scientists arguing among themselves about the finer points of evolution**************, and come to the conclusion that the theory is on the verge of collapse. Nothing could be further from the truth. Scientists realize that no theory, be it gravitation, quantum physics or electrodynamics, can be completely proven. All we can do is say that a particular theory is probably true, based on all available evidence. This leaves open the possibility that further information might require a modification of some of the details of the theory.

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I have mentioned I'm 6-2 275 pounds. Now according to one of those charts I'm a fatso. If we just go with the numbers, yep, a porker.

More numbers....5-6 200 pounds....once again accordingb to that chart, another porker. I;ve been lifting for 50 years, in a word...thick. The 5-6 200 pounds is Mr.Olympia Franco Columbo. So things aren't always what sdience says they are.

[phyzik]

You missed my point.

This latter fact reveals another point about evolution that is frequently misunderstood, especially by Fundamentalist Christians. Such people are used to having a rigidly defined dogma, in which there is only black or white, and all facts are either true or false, with very little room for error or debate. Thus*****they see scientists arguing among themselves about the finer points of evolution**************, and come to the conclusion that the theory is on the verge of collapse. Nothing could be further from the truth. Scientists realize that no theory, be it gravitation, quantum physics or electrodynamics, can be completely proven. All we can do is say that a particular theory is probably true, based on all available evidence. This leaves open the possibility that further information might require a modification of some of the details of the theory.


Do I REALLY have to explain how a scientific theory works again? The theory of evolution has been around for over 100 years.... there has been ample time to debunk it..... Every time a fossil is found, the "theory" of evolution is tested.... EVERY FUCKING TIME A FOSSIL IS FOUND EVOLUTION IS PUT TO THE TEST.....

If just ONE... ONE SINGLE FOSSIL.... was found out of the predictive model of evolution, evolution would be debunked.... It is really that simple.

People don't like to think about it, but the theory of evolution is the MOST ROBUST theory we have in almost any science, including the theory of gravity. I don't see you guys attacking that "theory".

[Avante]

Do I REALLY have to explain how a scientific theory works again? The theory of evolution has been around for over 100 years.... there has been ample time to debunk it..... Every time a fossil is found, the "theory" of evolution is tested.... EVERY FUCKING TIME A FOSSIL IS FOUND EVOLUTION IS PUT TO THE TEST.....

If just ONE... ONE SINGLE FOSSIL.... was found out of the predictive model of evolution, evolution would be debunked.... It is really that simple.

Then ya wonder why you sre considered a joke. Look at yourself little guy, who the fuck you talking to, it certainly isn;t me with that tone. Now ya wanna drop your punk ass bullshit and try it again fucker?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YA FUCKING MORON...well?

[phyzik]

Then ya wonder why you sre considered a joke. Look at yourself little guy, who the fuck you talking to, it certainly isn;t me with that tone. Now ya wanna drop your punk ass bullshit and try it again fucker?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YA FUCKING MORON...well?

ummm.... honestly, no, I don't understand what you are saying... What was your argument against my post again? That I need to watch my back because of some e-thug? Ok...

That doesn't invalidate my points..... but OK. You are the bigger e-thug when you lose an argument I guess.... Congrats??? :lmao

Come on Mouse, even you have to be cringing at this response from your ally.... :lol

[Avante]

ummm.... honestly, no, I don't understand what you are saying... What was your argument against my post again? That I need to watch my back because of some e-thug? Ok...

That doesn't invalidate my points..... but OK. You are the bigger e-thug when you lose an argument I guess....

You really this fucking stupid? You want to play teacher acting like a fucking jerk, good luck with that ya fucking asshole. What argument are you talking about? Yes scientists still argue evolution, yes it is not a proven fact it all went down like that. So I lost nothing, now go suck a cock ok fucker?

[phyzik]

You really this fucking stupid? You want to play teacher acting like a fucking jerk, good luck with that ya fucking asshole. What argument are you talking about? Yes scientists still argue evolution, yes it is not a proven fact it all went down like that. So I lost nothing, now go suck a cock ok fucker?

RAGE MOOORE!!!! It will validate your argument!!!!!!!! :lmao :lol:rollin

Whatever "scientist" you are talking about that "argue" evolution, I would like to see some names.... The FACT is that the THEORY of EVOLUTION has been tested time and time again.... in fact, EVERY SINGLE TIME a fossil has been found, it has passed the test... until we find a fossil that defeats the predictive model of evolution, it is the correct model to follow regardless of what you, or even I, want to believe. Keep raging for your unicorn dicked sky daddy with a 4 leaf clover for a bush and a pot of gold in his ass crack..... or whatever insane nonsense you want to believe... :rolleyes

[Avante]

RAGE MOOORE!!!! It will validate your argument!!!!!!!! :lmao :lol:rollin

Whatever "scientist" you are talking about that "argue" evolution, I would like to see some names.... The FACT is that the THEORY of EVOLUTION has been tested time and time again.... in fact, EVERY SINGLE TIME a fossil has been found, and has passed the test... until then, it is the correct model to follow regardless of what you, or even I, want to believe. Keep raging for your unicorn dicked sky daddy with a 4 leaf clover for a bush and a pot of gold in his ass crack.

What are you retarded? Didn't I just show you where....THE ARGUE AMONG THEMSELVES...well? Are you paying any attention at all?

You wanna talk to me fucker you be cool , got it?

No stupid we didn't evolve rom fish and if you think we did then stop wasting my tine. got it?

[phyzik]

What are you retarded? Didn't I just show you where....THE ARGUE AMONG THEMSELVES...well? Are you paying any attention at all?

You wanna talk to me fucker you be cool , got it?

No stupid we didn't evolve rom fish and if you think we did then stop wasting my tine. got it?

wow, raging so much you are forgetting how to type.... you are almost incoherent now.... I'll let you sleep a bit before I continue to break you down.... You are correct though, we didn't evolve from fish directly.... we evolved from amoeba which predate fish and eventually evolved into them.... but I digress... Get some rest so I don't hurt your little brain with all this complicated stuff. :toast

[Avante]

wow, raging so much you are forgetting how to type.... you are almost incoherent now.... I'll let you sleep a bit before I continue to break you down....

That won't work half pint, you trying to break somebody down, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! You're getting broke down idiot. Too dumb to see it.

Look at where I have you, yep....OWNED!

[Blake]

Blake, we all get this internet game, ok? First off you aren't going to waste your time on some dummy. alright?

Well yeah, I've finished wasting time talking evolution facts with you. It's all here in this thread for you to read

It's true, I'm just here to call you lazy, stupid and fat to watch you blow a fuse. Maybe say something hilarious again like how there are no hillbillies in Arkansas.

Still entertaining imo tbh.

[RandomGuy]

I just don't believe that natural evolution would have taken us to this point. To the point of humans today and everything we've created. Not to mention the complexities of the human mind. We are so unique and strange when compared to the rest of the animals on earth.


Not really.

This is a flawed logical construction, [i.e. the argument from incredulity]

We are neither all that unique, nor that unusual.


Sorry...but that's a little disingenuous and honestly offensive to equate my thoughts on a very complex subject to me espousing it as truth...

But you made a huge jump throwing out a logical fallacy that is normally applied to someone ignorant or closed minded about a subject. Especially in regards to evolution vs ceationism.

Your original statement, "I just don't believe that natural evolution could produce a human" implied the [therefore natural evolution could not produce the human species]. If that is not the case, then you will need to clarify. Until then:


The general form of the argument is as follows.
P1: One can't imagine how X could be true.
P2: [omitted to avoid confusion-RG]
C1: X is false.
As a syllogism this is valid. The fallacy lies in the unstated premise. If a state of affairs is impossible to imagine, it doesn't follow that it is false; it may only mean that imagination is limited. Moreover, if no one has yet managed to imagine how a state of affairs is possible, it doesn't follow that no one will ever be able to.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

P1: One can't imagine how X could be true.
[your direct quote]"I just don't believe that natural evolution would have taken us to this point."

C1: X is false.
[your implied conclusion] [Therefore natural evolution producing humans is false]

QED

Whether you believe it or not, has no bearing on the ultimate truth of the matter, especially for anyone else. If you want to be butthurt over someone pointing out your flawed thinking, that is also your prerogative, that butthurt will not make the flawed thinking magically valid.

[RandomGuy]

Well yeah, I've finished wasting time talking evolution facts with you. It's all here in this thread for you to read

It's true, I'm just here to call you lazy, stupid and fat to watch you blow a fuse. Maybe say something hilarious again like how there are no hillbillies in Arkansas.

Still entertaining imo tbh.

Well, it is hard to tell if he is stupid AND lazy. Lazy would be practically indistinguishable from stupid in this case:
Repeating the same failed arguments over and over again could easily be caused by sheer laziness. It is also consistent with real stupidity.

The data are inconclusive, IMO. Hell, Avante could be, as you suggest, stupid AND lazy.

One bit against absolute laziness, is him sticking around in this thread.

Hard to tell, hard to tell.

[Blake]

Well, it is hard to tell if he is stupid AND lazy. Lazy would be practically indistinguishable from stupid in this case:
Repeating the same failed arguments over and over again could easily be caused by sheer laziness. It is also consistent with real stupidity.

The data are inconclusive, IMO. Hell, Avante could be, as you suggest, stupid AND lazy.

One bit against absolute laziness, is him sticking around in this thread.

Hard to tell, hard to tell.

His lazy attempts to understand evolution result in continued ignorance, ergo he's staying stupid.....imo.

[SpursforSix]

Your original statement, "I just don't believe that natural evolution could produce a human" implied the [therefore natural evolution could not produce the human species]. If that is not the case, then you will need to clarify.

Whether you believe it or not, has no bearing on the ultimate truth of the matter, especially for anyone else. If you want to be butthurt over someone pointing out your flawed thinking, that is also your prerogative, that butthurt will not make the flawed thinking magically valid.

Then maybe it was my fault. I meant humans as we are today.

Not butthurt. But everyone including you is to dismiss the possibility of alien influence. There have been accounts going thousands of years back about visitors from other worlds. It's natural to assume that a race so advanced would interfere on some level with life on earth.

[boutons_deux]

Meteorite Impacts on Ancient Oceans --"May Have Created the Genetic Molecules That Led to Life" (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2015/08/meteorite-impacts-on-ancient-oceans-may-have-created-the-genetic-molecules-that-led-to-life.html)

A new study shown that meteorite impacts on ancient oceans may have created nucleobases and amino acids. Researchers from Tohoku University, National Institute for Materials Science (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=36.07388,140.12076&spn=1.0,1.0&q=36.07388,140.12076%20(National%20Institute%20for %20Materials%20Science)&t=h) and Hiroshima University discovered this after conducting impact experiments simulating a meteorite hitting an ancient ocean.

With precise analysis of the products recovered after impacts, the team found the formation of nucleobases and amino acids from inorganic compounds. The research is reported this week in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters (http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/503328/description).

All the genetic information of modern life is stored in DNA as sequences of nucleobases. However, formation of nucleobases from inorganic compounds available on prebiotic Earth had been considered to be difficult.
In 2009, this team reported the formation of the simplest amino acid, glycine, by simulating meteorite impacts. This time, they replaced the carbon source with bicarbonate and conducted hypervelocity impact experiments at 1 km/s using a single stage propellant gun (Figure 2).

They found the formation of a far larger variety of life's building blocks, including two kinds of nucleobases and nine kinds of proteinogenic amino acids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteinogenic_amino_acid). The results suggest a new route for how genetic molecules may have first formed on Earth.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2015/08/meteorite-impacts-on-ancient-oceans-may-have-created-the-genetic-molecules-that-led-to-life.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDailyGalaxyNewsFromPlanetE arthBeyond+%28The+Daily+Galaxy+--Great+Discoveries+Channel%3A+Sci%2C+Space%2C+Tech. %29

[Blake]

Then maybe it was my fault. I meant humans as we are today.

Not butthurt. But everyone including you is to dismiss the possibility of alien influence. There have been accounts going thousands of years back about visitors from other worlds. It's natural to assume that a race so advanced would interfere on some level with life on earth.

So how did the aliens reach their advanced state of being?

[SpursforSix]

So how did the aliens reach their advanced state of being?

No idea. And I don't discount the possibility that the aliens are ourselves in the future coming back and tinkering. But that opens up another can of worms.
In any event, it's interesting to think about but in reality right now, isn't significant to what I do on a day to day basis. Whether it's straight evolution or part alien design, it doesn't matter.
I spend some time thinking about it but I don't do any significant research other than reading about ideas here or there. I'm obviously too busy for that.

[Blake]

No idea.

Well your alien thoughts fall flat because of that conundrum

[RandomGuy]

Then maybe it was my fault. I meant humans as we are today.

Not butthurt. But everyone including you is to dismiss the possibility of alien influence. There have been accounts going thousands of years back about visitors from other worlds. It's natural to assume that a race so advanced would interfere on some level with life on earth.

I don't dismiss it as impossible. I just don't see any evidence of alien influence sufficient to prove such a large assertion.

There have been accounts going back thousands of years that the sun is a flaming chariot, being driven by a magic man. That doesn't mean the nearest star is a flaming chariot.

You have taken some vague evidence, and used cognitive bias to see "visitors from other worlds".

Basically, the same logical flaw that shows "visitors from other worlds", is used to prove "God did it", i.e. the argument from ignorance.

http://www.trulyfallacious.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/appeal-to-ignorance1-461x400.jpg

The bigger the claim, the better the evidence required to accept that claim as true, for any rational person.

I have seen the evidence presented for this ancient alien theory, and it is about as weak as it gets, in terms of actually supporting the theory it is supposed to back.

[RandomGuy]

Let's see what else we can prove with "there have been accounts going back thousands of years, therefore X is true".

There have been accounts of pixies going back thousands of years, therefore, pixies bring blessings on humans that are kind to them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixie

[RandomGuy]

There have been accounts of witches for thousands of years, so therefore, some women can cast magic spells.

[RandomGuy]

There have been accounts of misshapen greedy goblins for thousands of years, so therefore goblins are mining under the earth for gold.

[SpursforSix]

I don't dismiss it as impossible. I just don't see any evidence of alien influence sufficient to prove such a large assertion.

There have been accounts going back thousands of years that the sun is a flaming chariot, being driven by a magic man. That doesn't mean the nearest star is a flaming chariot.

You have taken some vague evidence, and used cognitive bias to see "visitors from other worlds".

Basically, the same logical flaw that shows "visitors from other worlds", is used to prove "God did it", i.e. the argument from ignorance.


The bigger the claim, the better the evidence required to accept that claim as true, for any rational person.

I have seen the evidence presented for this ancient alien theory, and it is about as weak as it gets, in terms of actually supporting the theory it is supposed to back.

I don't know what all the evidence is presented for the ancient alien case. I've watched the show here and there.
The accounts I'm talking about are eyewitness accounts or different renditions in art or architecture or archaeological discoveries. Renditions that haven't been explained otherwise. You lumping everything in with flaming chariots is ridiculous.

[RandomGuy]

All of these "therefores" require, for a rational person, a bit more than ancient stories.

What we have supporting ancient aliens, pixies, witches, and goblins, are stories, drawings and other sorts of things, easily explained by natural or human actions, and a lot of people who want to take those drawings and stories as sufficient proof of existence.

I require a bit more, before I start accepting something as true.

Does that mean witches, pixies, ancient aliens, goblins do NOT exist? No. They might, I don't think we could ever really have enough evidence to say that conclusively.

But

The time to believe something is when you have enough evidence to accept it is true. The only real issue is how much evidence is enough?

That is the real question sustaining this thread.

[SpursforSix]

There have been accounts of misshapen greedy goblins for thousands of years, so therefore goblins are mining under the earth for gold.

LOL. Sounds like you're the one butthurt. Let me know when you feel like you've solved everything. I hate to think of another evolved human being so distressed by this.

[SpursforSix]

Well your alien thoughts fall flat because of that conundrum

Not necessarily. I recognize the paradox it creates but we're not trying to figure out alien evolution. Probably.

[RandomGuy]

I don't know what all the evidence is presented for the ancient alien case. I've watched the show here and there.
The accounts I'm talking about are eyewitness accounts or different renditions in art or architecture or archaeological discoveries. Renditions that haven't been explained otherwise. You lumping everything in with flaming chariots is ridiculous.

Accepting something on the basis of arguments from ignorance "I don't know, therefore ALIENS!" is irrational.

The feeling of ridicule you feel is the cognitive dissonance from holding the belief "I am a rational person" and "I believe irrational things" at the same time.

You can't reconcile the two things. That is why you are irritated.

[RandomGuy]

LOL. Sounds like you're the one butthurt. Let me know when you feel like you've solved everything. I hate to think of another evolved human being so distressed by this.

Not really. I was merely following the logical form you presented, to see if it held up for other things.

If it is logical to believe something for reason X, "stories of something going back thousands of years", then it should be the basis for other things.

Do you think that is a rational basis for believing in goblins? Why or why not?

[Avante]

200 PAGES!

That is the all time record for a thread here at ST, but I can't take all the credit. So let me thank all the little people who made this possible, you know who you are. Thank You:lobt2:

Let's have some sounds.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isNPKrBCIeM

[SpursforSix]

Accepting something on the basis of arguments from ignorance "I don't know, therefore ALIENS!" is irrational.

The feeling of ridicule you feel is the cognitive dissonance from holding the belief "I am a rational person" and "I believe irrational things" at the same time.

You can't reconcile the two things. That is why you are irritated.

LOL. Maybe. But I don't think I'm at the point of "I don't understand so it must be aliens."
I guess any irritation might come from people automatically dismissing aliens as a ludicrous idea and that anyone considering them as plausible must be just like the crazy hair nut.

[SpursforSix]

Not really. I was merely following the logical form you presented, to see if it held up for other things.

If it is logical to believe something for reason X, "stories of something going back thousands of years", then it should be the basis for other things.

Do you think that is a rational basis for believing in goblins? Why or why not?

posts like these make me think you have done an incredible troll job on Spurstalk. Like an intelligent version of ChumpDumper.

[spurraider21]

I always read your replies that is how I know your being mislead.

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so you get mad at artist renditions of fosslis but go ga-ga for artist renditions of DNA :lol

[spurraider21]

start at 1:12


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOla3TyfqQ

[Blake]

Not necessarily. I recognize the paradox it creates but we're not trying to figure out alien evolution. Probably.

We're not trying to figure out alien evolution because there's no evidence of aliens.

But there's evidence of evolution.

[Blake]

LOL. Maybe. But I don't think I'm at the point of "I don't understand so it must be aliens."
I guess any irritation might come from people automatically dismissing aliens as a ludicrous idea and that anyone considering them as plausible must be just like the crazy hair nut.

I'll dismiss the notion that aliens have visited until we see them.

[SpursforSix]

We're not trying to figure out alien evolution because there's no evidence of aliens.

But there's evidence of evolution.

there is evidence of aliens. regardless of how much credence you give it.

[Blake]

there is evidence of aliens. regardless of how much credence you give it.

No, there's no evidence of intelligent aliens that have visited the earth.

[Blake]

200 PAGES!

That is the all time record for a thread here at ST, but I can't take all the credit. So let me thank all the little people who made this possible, you know who you are. Thank You:lobt2:

You can take most of the credit. Thanks for allowing us to make fun of you being incredibly stupid for 200 pages. :tu

[SpursforSix]

No, there's no evidence of intelligent aliens that have visited the earth.

OK. I don't give a shit anymore. You and Avante figure it out.

[Blake]

OK. I don't give a shit anymore. You and Avante figure it out.

I've got it figured out and it's simple: until there's evidence I don't buy it.

But I hope you and Avante come back again soon with more alien talk so I can lol.

[RandomGuy]

posts like these make me think you have done an incredible troll job on Spurstalk. Like an intelligent version of ChumpDumper.

If your definition of trolling is pointing out the logical flaws in others' argument or thought processes... :D

[RandomGuy]

LOL. Maybe. But I don't think I'm at the point of "I don't understand so it must be aliens."
I guess any irritation might come from people automatically dismissing aliens as a ludicrous idea and that anyone considering them as plausible must be just like the crazy hair nut.

There is a difference between "it is possible" and "it happened".

If you "can't believe" humans are the result of natural selection, and your go-to thing that you find better is aliens, then you get to stand in the corner with crazy hair nut, until you can provide some seriously compelling proof why this other theory is so much better than the default natural, unguided selection.

[RandomGuy]

You can take most of the credit. Thanks for allowing us to make fun of you being incredibly stupid for 200 pages. :tu

He gets to stand in the corner with Cosmored.

Not something to be proud of, IMO.

[mouse]

Come on Mouse, even you have to be cringing at this response from your ally.... :lol

yes it's not what I expected from the music man.

Maybe he thinks your one if Blake's TRolls.

[mouse]

[QUOTE=Blake;8168783]I've got it figured out and it's simple: until there's evidence I don't buy it./QUOTE]


So you are saying there is no design in DNA

[Blake]

I'm saying there's no evidence of a cosmic designer.

[RandomGuy]

I'm saying there's no evidence of a cosmic designer.

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