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ElNono
07-18-2020, 10:27 PM
you mad that your realizing your count is inaccurate so you are being a media sensationalist? Suits you

gossip

clambake
07-18-2020, 10:28 PM
you mad that your realizing your count is inaccurate so you are being a media sensationalist? Suits you

It is inaccurate. Hiding the truth behind trump baby gates and a closed White House.

baseline bum
07-18-2020, 10:33 PM
It is inaccurate. Hiding the truth behind trump baby gates and a closed White House.

It's true though, it is inaccurate, likely a massive massive undercount. Like how it didn't count the huge uptick in pneumonia deaths in Texas and Florida from February through May. Wonder what caused those to go 4x to 5x higher than they have been in all the other recent years (where numbers were steady) when COVID kills mainly through pneumonia. Especially being past flu season. Not that I'm accusing anyone of fudging death certificates or numbers, they likely just never got tested. We won't see the true count until we see the excess deaths reported once the pandemic over.

clambake
07-18-2020, 10:40 PM
It's true though, it is inaccurate, likely a massive massive undercount. Like how it didn't count the huge uptick in pneumonia deaths in Texas and Florida from February through May. Wonder what caused those to go 4x to 5x higher than they have been in all the other recent years (where numbers were steady) when COVID kills mainly through pneumonia. Especially being past flu season. Not that I'm accusing anyone of fudging death certificates or numbers, they likely just never got tested. We won't see the true count until we see the excess deaths reported once the pandemic over.
I know, but cheeto might help Chris with his fear of blacks and browns.

clambake
07-18-2020, 10:41 PM
You know....Chris has been afraid his whole life. He needs a man.

tholdren
07-18-2020, 10:53 PM
I put the plus to indicate it's an undercount after you showed that 7 day lag in Houston's reporting.
Its not 7 days. You are bad with numbers

baseline bum
07-18-2020, 11:07 PM
Its not 7 days. You are bad with numbers

You showed me on the 16th stats were showing deaths reported happening up to the 9th.

tholdren
07-18-2020, 11:42 PM
You showed me on the 16th stats were showing deaths reported happening up to the 9th.

Lol you still dont understand how deaths are calculated and reported. After 4 months of this.

baseline bum
07-18-2020, 11:57 PM
Lol you still dont understand how deaths are calculated and reported. After 4 months of this.

So if the delay is longer it means we're undercounting even more relative to the current actual state of COVID deaths. How does this help your argument?

tholdren
07-19-2020, 12:21 AM
So if the delay is longer it means we're undercounting even more relative to the current actual state of COVID deaths. How does this help your argument?

No. Because you still are not factoring out probable V confirmed. That's not the real issue with the reporting.

The major arguments of the lag in deaths is based on the curve of the disease when you graph as well as using reporting deaths on days other than the days of death.

You cannot accurately report the behavior of a disease this way. You think deaths are occurring more often than the really are.

baseline bum
07-19-2020, 12:29 AM
No. Because you still are not factoring out probable V confirmed. That's not the real issue with the reporting.

The major arguments of the lag in deaths is based on the curve of the disease when you graph as well as using reporting deaths on days other than the days of death.

You cannot accurately report the behavior of a disease this way. You think deaths are occurring more often than the really are.

You think it's how many motorcycle deaths of the 143k?

midnightpulp
07-19-2020, 12:36 AM
You think it's how many motorcycle deaths of the 143k?

The truthers fall for the dumbass backlog effect every fuckin' time. "Oh, you saw there was a 150 deaths in today. B-B-But did you know 10 were from April, 30 from may, and 50 from June, and 40 from last week! That means really only 20 people died today!"

He doesn't understand is that the deaths that were reported occurring today isn't actually ALL the deaths that actually happened today. Eventually the backlogs will come in and ultimately paint a rather accurate picture of daily deaths.

1284243090065129472

baseline bum
07-19-2020, 12:40 AM
The truthers fall for the dumbass backlog effect every fuckin' time. "Oh, you saw there was a 150 deaths in today. B-B-But did you know 10 were from April, 30 from may, and 50 from June, and 40 from last week! That means really only 20 people died today!"

He doesn't understand is that the deaths that were reported occurring today isn't actually ALL the deaths that actually happened today. Eventually the backlogs will come in and ultimately paint a rather accurate picture of daily deaths.

1284243090065129472

I don't get his bitching about backlogs at all when it comes to total death count, which is what I have been posting to troll Thread from when cubby was trying to act like this would be less than the flu or less than H1N1 (2009).

tholdren
07-19-2020, 12:53 AM
The truthers fall for the dumbass backlog effect every fuckin' time. "Oh, you saw there was a 150 deaths in today. B-B-But did you know 10 were from April, 30 from may, and 50 from June, and 40 from last week! That means really only 20 people died today!"

He doesn't understand is that the deaths that were reported occurring today isn't actually ALL the deaths that actually happened today. Eventually the backlogs will come in and ultimately paint a rather accurate picture of daily deaths.

1284243090065129472

The argument is alwY what its been, you cannot use lag data to make a decision for now. No one who works with data would express that as optimal.

Strange Twitter can attempt a good chart but the cdc cannot.

midnightpulp
07-19-2020, 01:02 AM
The argument is alwY what its been, you cannot use lag data to make a decision for now. No one who works with data would express that as optimal.

Strange Twitter can attempt a good chart but the cdc cannot.

The deaths follow case and hospitalization trajectories pretty damn closely. So what, you'd rather just sit on your hands and do nothing and play "let's see." That's a silly way to practice prevention.

I get it, though, you just don't want shutdowns because it'll hurt the economy which will hurt Trump :lol

Covid spreading like wildfire is hurting the fuckin' economy. This is what your lot doesn't understand. You only think short term.

tholdren
07-19-2020, 01:10 AM
The deaths follow case and hospitalization trajectories pretty damn closely. So what, you'd rather just sit on your hands and do nothing and play "let's see." That's a silly way to practice prevention.

I get it, though, you just don't want shutdowns because it'll hurt the economy which will hurt Trump :lol

Covid spreading like wildfire is hurting the fuckin' economy. This is what your lot doesn't understand. You only think short term.

This is false. This is why there is different ifr for age brackets.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 01:57 AM
ifrShow your math.

tholdren
07-19-2020, 10:21 AM
The deaths follow case and hospitalization trajectories pretty damn closely. So what, you'd rather just sit on your hands and do nothing and play "let's see." That's a silly way to practice prevention.

I get it, though, you just don't want shutdowns because it'll hurt the economy which will hurt Trump :lol

Covid spreading like wildfire is hurting the fuckin' economy. This is what your lot doesn't understand. You only think short term.
Lololololookoll

Only think short term.

Adding all the deaths during lockdown as covid death
Not understanding that people who missed screeningd or elective surgery or have any type of economic setback will be affected for years which includes death.

Short term thinking is lockdown which even denmark and norway have said they will not use again.

Carry on.

midnightpulp
07-19-2020, 10:24 AM
Lololololookoll

Only think short term.

Adding all the deaths during lockdown as covid death
Not understanding that people who missed screeningd or elective surgery or have any type of economic setback will be affected for years which includes death.

Short term thinking is lockdown which even denmark and norway have said they will not use again.

Carry on.

Their stats say otherwise. They dealt with the short term discomfort of the lockdown and are now slowly resuming getting back to normal, while also mitigating death. New Zealand did so, as well. All these countries are recipes for success. We should follow. But we have too many MAGATs in the country, unfortunately.

tholdren
07-19-2020, 11:02 AM
Their stats say otherwise. They dealt with the short term discomfort of the lockdown and are now slowly resuming getting back to normal, while also mitigating death. New Zealand did so, as well. All these countries are recipes for success. We should follow. But we have too many MAGATs in the country, unfortunately.

Lol the stats. You cant even calculate the stats. Lol

tholdren
07-19-2020, 06:27 PM
Lol the stats. You cant even calculate the stats. Lol

Midnightpulp now wondering how to use calculator

baseline bum
07-19-2020, 06:40 PM
Update (19 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 143,263+
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-19-2020, 06:45 PM
Update (19 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 143,263+
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Please proceed with real data. Or prove that these deaths are actually confirmed and caused by covid.....

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 06:46 PM
Please proceed with real data. Or prove that these deaths are actually confirmed and caused by covid.....You're free to post your numbers you think are more accurate.

Or foldren.

baseline bum
07-19-2020, 06:47 PM
Please proceed with real data. Or prove that these deaths are actually confirmed and caused by covid.....

I can't do anything but the undercount, sorry not all deaths have been reported yet.

tholdren
07-19-2020, 06:50 PM
I can't do anything but the undercount, sorry not all deaths have been reported yet.

so you have 0 proof all of these are confirmed covid cause cases.

Proceed with your evidence

baseline bum
07-19-2020, 07:12 PM
so you have 0 proof all of these are confirmed covid cause cases.

Proceed with your evidence

Your conspiracy, your burden

tholdren
07-19-2020, 07:24 PM
Your conspiracy, your burden

nope your numbers your claim your burden

ElNono
07-19-2020, 07:33 PM
nope your numbers your claim your burden

wrong

tholdren
07-19-2020, 09:11 PM
nope your numbers your claim your burden

baseline bum posting false numbers to proceed daily

ElNono
07-19-2020, 09:25 PM
baseline bum posting false numbers to proceed daily

wrong

baseline bum
07-19-2020, 09:44 PM
baseline bum posting false numbers to proceed daily

post your conspiracy numbers son

tholdren
07-20-2020, 12:08 AM
post your conspiracy numbers son

Prove your numbers your burden

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 12:13 AM
Prove your numbers your burden

Staying home, bro? Wearing your mask when you go out? Do what you can to flatten the curve. You still need to write that letter to Abbott as well.

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 12:30 AM
Prove your numbers your burden

So no conspiracy numbers from foldren, as usual

tholdren
07-20-2020, 12:32 AM
Staying home, bro? Wearing your mask when you go out? Do what you can to flatten the curve. You still need to write that letter to Abbott as well.

lolololll you try to use a calculator for ifr... Lololol

tholdren
07-20-2020, 01:07 PM
bwahahhaahhahahahaha

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:12 PM
bwahahhaahhahahahaha

Look how det Florida data caught up. lololololololol thinking recent spikes were just backlogs lolololheheheheheehe

https://i.imgur.com/4ijZ25R.png

tholdren
07-20-2020, 01:17 PM
Look how det Florida data caught up. lololololololol thinking recent spikes were just backlogs lolololheheheheheehe

https://i.imgur.com/4ijZ25R.png

Yep data will change. You are using case fatalities. Sad you don't know the difference.

You are using case fatality when there are unconfirmed due to their own guidance on what counts as a covid death. Go ahead and view death by date confirmed v probables


You are bad using evidence to compare or disprove

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:27 PM
Yep data will change. You are using case fatalities. Sad you don't know the difference.

You are using case fatality when there are unconfirmed due to their own guidance on what counts as a covid death. Go ahead and view death by date confirmed v probables


You are bad using evidence to compare or disprove

Florida doesn't count probables, moron.


Florida does not report probable cases or deaths.

https://covidtracking.com/blog/florida-covid-19-data

And that is the raw death by date, not when the death was "reported."

You'll see the truther who made that graph showing there were "only" 413 deaths in July and claimed all the recent spikes were just backlogs. Then more July data came in and we see Florida's situation has been getting worse. Thus, their recent spikes aren't just "backlogs." You are like the truther in that tweet, doing victory laps when the data is still incomplete.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 01:38 PM
Florida doesn't count probables, moron.



https://covidtracking.com/blog/florida-covid-19-data

And that is the raw death by date, not when the death was "reported."

You'll see the truther who made that graph showing there were "only" 413 deaths in July and claimed all the recent spikes were just backlogs. Then more July data came in and we see Florida's situation has been getting worse. Thus, their recent spikes aren't just "backlogs." You are like the truther in that tweet, doing victory laps when the data is still incomplete.
Re read my quote. Just because you die with covid does not mean you die from covid. You have made no attempt to separate the two. Which means that you are counting covid deaths as anyone who has tested positive, which is better than some, but you are not capturing who has died FROM covid. So these are probable, more probable than just having a symptom though, so it's a start.

Backlogging deaths CANNOT BE USED TO DETERMINE IF MITGATION OS WORKING OR A DISEASE IS SPREADING.

You are the one that has come to that assumption. It takes relevant, valid data to make any decisions using data. Crazy that with all the testing the usa has done they still do not know how to view progressIon of disease.

But reaponses like yours are why.

Low logic
.

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 01:43 PM
Re read my quote. Just because you die with covid does not mean you die from covid. You have made no attempt to separate the two. Which means that you are counting covid deaths as anyone who has tested positive, which is better than some, but you are not capturing who has died FROM covid. So these are probable, more probable than just having a symptom though, so it's a start.

Backlogging deaths CANNOT BE USED TO DETERMINE IF MITGATION OS WORKING OR A DISEASE IS SPREADING.

You are the one that has come to that assumption. It takes relevant, valid data to make any decisions using data. Crazy that with all the testing the usa has done they still do not know how to view progressIon of disease.

But reaponses like yours are why.

Low logic
.

It's all motorcycle deaths with COVID

tholdren
07-20-2020, 01:45 PM
It's all motorcycle deaths with COVID

nope just the most at risk of death and elderly.

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:46 PM
Re read my quote. Just because you die with covid does not mean you die from covid. You have made no attempt to separate the two. Which means that you are counting covid deaths as anyone who has tested positive, which is better than some, but you are not capturing who has died FROM covid. So these are probable, more probable than just having a symptom though, so it's a start.

Backlogging deaths CANNOT BE USED TO DETERMINE IF MITGATION OS WORKING OR A DISEASE IS SPREADING.

You are the one that has come to that assumption. It takes relevant, valid data to make any decisions using data. Crazy that with all the testing the usa has done they still do not know how to view progressIon of disease.

But reaponses like yours are why.

Low logic
.

The from/with excuse is played out. Covid can exacerbate livable hypertension and diabetic conditions into fatal situations.

The Florida data I posted is pretty up to date. Deaths have increased in July. The virus is accelerating. Only an idiot would think otherwise.

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 01:46 PM
nope just the most at risk of death and elderly.

We should outlaw motorcycles since they have caused 140k deaths WITH COVID. Pandemic could be over tomorrow.

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:47 PM
We should outlaw motorcycles since they have caused 140k deaths WITH COVID. Pandemic could be over tomorrow.

:lol

tholdren
07-20-2020, 01:48 PM
The from/with excuse is played out. Covid can exacerbate livable hypertension and diabetic conditions into fatal situations.

The Florida data I posted is pretty up to date. Deaths have increased in July. The virus is accelerating. Only an idiot would think otherwise.

lololl disregarded facts and cherry picking data. Bias confirmed. Your wrong. /thread

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:50 PM
lololl disregarded facts and cherry picking data. Bias confirmed. Your wrong. /thread

Show me the data from Florida that parses death as from/with then.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 01:53 PM
Show me the data from Florida that parses death as from/with then.
Bwahahahahahhahahahah you cant. This is why you are just gossiping about everything you post

You dont have legitimate data, so all you are doing is purporting your own bias. Aka gossip.

But keep gossiping. Its very similar to the media. Which you are using as science. Lol

Sad day for you

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:56 PM
Bwahahahahahhahahahah you cant. This is why you are just gossiping about everything you post

You dont have legitimate data, so all you are doing is purporting your own bias. Aka gossip.

But keep gossiping. Its very similar to the media. Which you are using as science. Lol

Sad day for you

Show me the data then.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 02:11 PM
Show me the data then.

Why would I do that when you are doing such a great job of using subjective probabiltiy and passing it on as fact.

Keep using that calculator and media headline science

RandomGuy
07-20-2020, 02:41 PM
Trump is building his wall. Just not the way you think.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OdpHtZ1YmQ

RandomGuy
07-20-2020, 02:43 PM
It's all motorcycle deaths with COVID

Unicorn stabbings. Definitely. I hear they are more active in summer months.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 05:36 PM
Florida doesn't count probables, moron.



https://covidtracking.com/blog/florida-covid-19-data

And that is the raw death by date, not when the death was "reported."

You'll see the truther who made that graph showing there were "only" 413 deaths in July and claimed all the recent spikes were just backlogs. Then more July data came in and we see Florida's situation has been getting worse. Thus, their recent spikes aren't just "backlogs." You are like the truther in that tweet, doing victory laps when the data is still incomplete.

Florida doesn't count probables. LoloIololl

Florida, like every other state, uses cdc guidance.
Cdc says you can count cases a multitude of ways.
Many ways are without a confirmed test.
These nonconfirmed cases are considered confirmed (odd)
You have a nonconfirmed or probable case and you die

You are a covid fatality. You do not have to have a confirmed test. You do not have to have a direct link from symptoms, you could have had an ab test.

You know which country did mandate a confirmed test and symptoms that led to death?

FINLAND

wonder why their death rate is low?

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 06:23 PM
Update (20 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 143,749+
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 06:45 PM
Update (20 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 143,749+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 06:46 PM
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>f:lmao ldren

tholdren
07-20-2020, 08:55 PM
Florida doesn't count probables. LoloIololl

Florida, like every other state, uses cdc guidance.
Cdc says you can count cases a multitude of ways.
Many ways are without a confirmed test.
These nonconfirmed cases are considered confirmed (odd)
You have a nonconfirmed or probable case and you die

You are a covid fatality. You do not have to have a confirmed test. You do not have to have a direct link from symptoms, you could have had an ab test.

You know which country did mandate a confirmed test and symptoms that led to death?

FINLAND

wonder why their death rate is low?

Mia midnightpulp

tholdren
07-20-2020, 09:21 PM
Florida doesn't count probables, moron.



https://covidtracking.com/blog/florida-covid-19-data

And that is the raw death by date, not when the death was "reported."

You'll see the truther who made that graph showing there were "only" 413 deaths in July and claimed all the recent spikes were just backlogs. Then more July data came in and we see Florida's situation has been getting worse. Thus, their recent spikes aren't just "backlogs." You are like the truther in that tweet, doing victory laps when the data is still incomplete.

Bwahahahhahahahahhahaaah

The sting of being in an argument for 4 months and not understanding the most basic concept. Lololololol

Ifr


Bwahahahahhaha

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:22 PM
Ifr Show your math.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 09:41 PM
Mia midnightpulp

rememba det one time you went hiding for 2 months after predicting 10k deaths? good times.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 09:43 PM
Update (20 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 143,749+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:43 PM
rememba det one time you went hiding for 2 months after predicting 10k deaths? good times.:lmao f:lolldren.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 09:46 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahhahaaah

The sting of being in an argument for 4 months and not understanding the most basic concept. Lololololol

Ifr


Bwahahahahhaha

Bwahahahahahahahahhahahah

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:48 PM
Ifr Show your math.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 09:50 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahhahaaah

The sting of being in an argument for 4 months and not understanding the most basic concept. Lololololol

Ifr


Bwahahahahhaha

midnightpulp

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:50 PM
IfrShow your math.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 09:50 PM
rememba det one time you went hiding for 2 months after predicting 10k deaths? good times.


Bwahahahahahahahahhahahah

tholdren
07-20-2020, 09:51 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahhahaaah

The sting of being in an argument for 4 months and not understanding the most basic concept. Lololololol

Ifr


Bwahahahahhaha

midnightpulp name calling

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:52 PM
IfrShow your math.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 09:52 PM
midnightpulp name calling

gossip

tholdren
07-20-2020, 09:52 PM
Florida doesn't count probables. LoloIololl

Florida, like every other state, uses cdc guidance.
Cdc says you can count cases a multitude of ways.
Many ways are without a confirmed test.
These nonconfirmed cases are considered confirmed (odd)
You have a nonconfirmed or probable case and you die

You are a covid fatality. You do not have to have a confirmed test. You do not have to have a direct link from symptoms, you could have had an ab test.

You know which country did mandate a confirmed test and symptoms that led to death?

FINLAND

wonder why their death rate is low?

ElNono
07-20-2020, 09:52 PM
^ gossip

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:53 PM
Yep.

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 09:53 PM
Show your math.

He's so far behind in the race he thinks he's winning.

TimDunkem
07-20-2020, 09:54 PM
Bwahaha old man f:lollderp pwned again

Bwahaha 45% set shot 2s. So much skillllzzz :lol

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 09:55 PM
He's so far behind in the race he thinks he's winning.:lol It's rare to see a meltdown last for months at full bore, but we broke th:lolldren completely.

Even derp calms down a little.

pgardn
07-20-2020, 09:56 PM
Bwahahahahahahahahhahahah

How does it feel to live on the Earth as long as you have, and to learn nothing?

tholdren
07-20-2020, 10:04 PM
He's so far behind in the race he thinks he's winning.

Ioannidis, Stanford professor 'if you are under 45 years old your chances of dying from covid is almost 0"

Winning

baseline bum
07-20-2020, 10:06 PM
Ioannidis, Stanford professor 'if you are under 45 years old your chances of dying from covid is almost 0"

Winning

If my cousin in law ever regains consciousness I'll give him the message.

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 10:08 PM
Ioannidis, Stanford professor 'if you are under 45 years old your chances of dying from covid is almost 0"

WinningDid the ones who died win?

You want to gloat about the dead.

Apologize.

tholdren
07-20-2020, 11:05 PM
Did the ones who died win?

You want to gloat about the dead.

Apologize.
Chumpdump wants covid death. Can't even be happy that ifr under 50 is way less than flu. Sad you politicized science and math.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 11:15 PM
Chumpdump wants covid death. Can't even be happy that ifr under 50 is way less than flu. Sad you politicized science and math.

gossip

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 11:27 PM
ifrShow your math.

Winehole23
07-21-2020, 08:33 AM
1285525964018143232

Splits
07-21-2020, 02:54 PM
https://i.gifer.com/ULMC.gif

https://i.imgur.com/waVxf58.png

We did it!!!

USA USA USA

RandomGuy
07-21-2020, 03:01 PM
Florida doesn't count probables, moron.



https://covidtracking.com/blog/florida-covid-19-data

And that is the raw death by date, not when the death was "reported."

You'll see the truther who made that graph showing there were "only" 413 deaths in July and claimed all the recent spikes were just backlogs. Then more July data came in and we see Florida's situation has been getting worse. Thus, their recent spikes aren't just "backlogs." You are like the truther in that tweet, doing victory laps when the data is still incomplete.

So the Republican administration in Florida made the same call as the Republican administration in Texas, and not count "probable", meaning the actual in both states is 2x or more. Guess DMC will need a new thread about that. :lol

Trainwreck2100
07-21-2020, 03:02 PM
America First. Promises made, promises kept

RandomGuy
07-21-2020, 03:03 PM
Update (20 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 143,749+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

F:loldren doesn't have enough of a clue to make a guess.

tholdren
07-21-2020, 05:06 PM
F:loldren doesn't have enough of a clue to make a guess.

2 more weeks

tholdren
07-21-2020, 05:08 PM
So the Republican administration in Florida made the same call as the Republican administration in Texas, and not count "probable", meaning the actual in both states is 2x or more. Guess DMC will need a new thread about that. :lol

Link to where tx fl have to have covid confrined test to be counted as cpvid fatality.

Otherwise this is gossip

ChumpDumper
07-21-2020, 05:09 PM
Link to where tx fl have to have covid confrined test to be counted as cpvid fatality.

Otherwise this is gossipth:lolldren demanding links.

baseline bum
07-21-2020, 06:03 PM
Update (21 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 144,888+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-21-2020, 09:20 PM
Link to where tx fl have to have covid confrined test to be counted as cpvid fatality.

Otherwise this is gossip
RandomGuy 2weeks

midnightpulp
07-21-2020, 11:56 PM
RandomGuy 2weeks

https://i.imgur.com/TUo42Lp.png

baseline bum
07-22-2020, 06:34 PM
Thread, you still here? Neal didn't rape.

Update (22 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 146,093
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-22-2020, 06:34 PM
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

ChumpDumper
07-22-2020, 06:41 PM
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-dataWear your mask.

tholdren
07-22-2020, 06:50 PM
Wear your mask.

Denmark doesn't

ChumpDumper
07-22-2020, 06:52 PM
Denmark doesn'tIs the US Denmark?

Yes or no.

tholdren
07-22-2020, 06:57 PM
Is the US Denmark?

Yes or no.

bwahahahaahhaahaa

Chumpdump thinks science only occurs in Denmark and admots usa is void of science


LoloIool

hater
07-22-2020, 06:58 PM
We will reach 150k carcasses by sunday

tholdren
07-22-2020, 07:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TUo42Lp.png

Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah

You added probable and unconfirmed deaths in there

ChumpDumper
07-22-2020, 07:06 PM
bwahahahaahhaahaa

Chumpdump thinks science only occurs in Denmark and admots usa is void of science


LoloIoolf:lolldren folds

Can't even admit this is a different country.

ChumpDumper
07-22-2020, 07:06 PM
Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah

You added probable and unconfirmed deaths in there:lol meltdown

tholdren
07-22-2020, 07:08 PM
f:lolldren folds

Can't even admit this is a different country.

/thread

ChumpDumper
07-22-2020, 07:24 PM
/threadf:lolldren tries to end the thread to hide his failure.

tholdren
07-22-2020, 07:37 PM
f:lolldren tries to end the thread to hide his failure.

you literally just said science is different in America than science in other countries.

Pretty much the end

midnightpulp
07-22-2020, 07:57 PM
you literally just said science is different in America than science in other countries.

Pretty much the end

Hawaii only 1 death today and 25 total. :tu

ChumpDumper
07-22-2020, 08:13 PM
you literally just said science is different in America than science in other countries.th:lolldren literally lied.

spurraider21
07-22-2020, 08:55 PM
We'll be around 175k by August


nah

well unless they open up shit but IMO if it cases spike to that level theyl shut us down again and this time it will be enforced with penalty of jail

so hopefully that does not happen as that means we could be on mandatory shutdown from Aug-Jan 2021

then you can expect riots on the streets

more likely states will slowly open up and well be at around 120k deaths by Aug
damn even perennial doomsdayer hater didnt think we'd have it this bad by august
Splits was off but we could conceivably get to that number by the end of august depending on how states continue to act

tholdren
07-22-2020, 11:40 PM
Hawaii only 1 death today and 25 total. :tu

And?
You said texas doesn't include probable deaths on covid death count and fl.

Wrong

tholdren
07-23-2020, 11:23 AM
And?
You said texas doesn't include probable deaths on covid death count and fl.

Wrong

midnightpulp lying about data

Splits
07-23-2020, 11:32 AM
damn even perennial doomsdayer hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) didnt think we'd have it this bad by august
Splits (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583) was off but we could conceivably get to that number by the end of august depending on how states continue to act

Looks like in the first week of May I overshot by just a bit ... keep in mind, at that time the total count was 75k all the predictions were at an August 6th date IIRC, which is still 2 weeks away. But yeah, 2 weeks looks like we'll be ~165k instead of ~175k which I predicted

FYI - The IHME/White House model projections on May 4 for beginning of Aug were 134k (http://www.healthdata.org/covid/data-downloads)

midnightpulp
07-23-2020, 12:07 PM
Looks like in the first week of May I overshot by just a bit ... keep in mind, at that time the total count was 75k all the predictions were at an August 6th date IIRC, which is still 2 weeks away. But yeah, 2 weeks looks like we'll be ~165k instead of ~175k which I predicted

FYI - The IHME/White House model projections on May 4 for beginning of Aug were 134k (http://www.healthdata.org/covid/data-downloads)

You write an algo for this? You might like this dude's work. He's been dead on projecting Florida. His work is open source (I ain't no coder, but maybe you can play around it).

1286054539003482114

Splits
07-23-2020, 12:32 PM
You write an algo for this? You might like this dude's work. He's been dead on projecting Florida. His work is open source (I ain't no coder, but maybe you can play around it).

1286054539003482114

Took a look at his python code, doesn't account for motorcycle and poisoning deaths, so algorithm is garbage

midnightpulp
07-23-2020, 12:38 PM
Took a look at his python code, doesn't account for motorcycle and poisoning deaths, so algorithm is garbage

:lol

hater
07-23-2020, 12:41 PM
damn even perennial doomsdayer hater didnt think we'd have it this bad by august
Splits was off but we could conceivably get to that number by the end of august depending on how states continue to act

But I did say ma nig:

"nah

well unless they open up shit"


They did open up shit and we are moving back to lockdown.

Total lockdown and riots? We shall see....

Splits
07-23-2020, 12:52 PM
But I did say ma nig:

"nah

well unless they open up shit"


They did open up shit and we are moving back to lockdown.

Total lockdown and riots? We shall see....


nah

well unless they open up shit but IMO if it cases spike to that level theyl shut us down again and this time it will be enforced with penalty of jail

so hopefully that does not happen as that means we could be on mandatory shutdown from Aug-Jan 2021


Guess "we shall see" how many people are jailed during the mandatory shutdown from Aug-Jan 2021 too

Splits
07-23-2020, 01:02 PM
May 5th...


We're opening here in AZ..


Marked

https://i.imgur.com/09VWEfW.png

July 23rd...

https://i.imgur.com/wktWCrd.png

Grim business...

tholdren
07-23-2020, 01:30 PM
May 5th...





July 23rd...

https://i.imgur.com/wktWCrd.png

Grim business...

Out of context data

Splits
07-23-2020, 01:31 PM
This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).
don't quote me faggot

tholdren
07-23-2020, 01:32 PM
This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).
don't quote me faggot


lolololololololol

Wrong data and mad

hater
07-23-2020, 01:38 PM
Guess "we shall see" how many people are jailed during the mandatory shutdown from Aug-Jan 2021 too

Yup. Im guessikg if we.have like 3 or 4 new yorks and a 2nd wave on top in the fall/winter. Its possible we do another complete shutdown and jail? Probably not but fines/house arrest? Possibly

Arent some ppl already being put on ankle bracelets?

https://twitter.com/SqlMorley/status/1284559814169944064?s=19

Anything is possible at this point imo

boutons_deux
07-23-2020, 04:30 PM
Random testing in Indiana shows COVID-19 is 6 times deadlier than flu

We found that 2.8% of the state's population (http://dx.doi.org/10.15585/mmwr.mm6929e1) had been infected with SARS–CoV–2. We also found that minority communities — especially Hispanic communities — have been hit much harder by the virus.

During the last week in April, we estimate that 1.7% of the population had active viral infections.

An additional 1.1% had antibodies, showing evidence of previous infection.

In total, we estimate that 2.8% of the population currently were or had previously been infected (http://dx.doi.org/10.15585/mmwr.mm6929e1) with the coronavirus with 95% confidence that the actual infection rate is between 2% and 3.7%.

That would mean that approximately 188,000 Indiana residents had been infected by late April. At that point, the official confirmed cases — not including deaths — were about 17,000 (https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/2393.htm).

Focusing the tests on severe or high-risk people underestimated the true infection rate by a factor of 11.

COVID-19 fatality rate is much higher than flu

The fatality rate for COVID-19 is far lower than what was originally thought, but nearly 6 times higher than seasonal flu

https://www.livescience.com/indiana-coronavirus-infections.html?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=21129&utm_content=20200723_Coronavirus_Infographic+&utm_term=194127&m_i=dStOCenhUlwAaZLE8UhZGY_lzP%2BEzvKoEXT7z8UCtsxM qgaAQJpfBiWiBsnD5ePnwyhShYfIQGbUrlHsywfkvVN915j_EH

DMC
07-23-2020, 04:37 PM
Yup. Im guessikg if we.have like 3 or 4 new yorks and a 2nd wave on top in the fall/winter. Its possible we do another complete shutdown and jail? Probably not but fines/house arrest? Possibly

Arent some ppl already being put on ankle bracelets?

https://twitter.com/SqlMorley/status/1284559814169944064?s=19

Anything is possible at this point imo

If she was riotesting it should be ok.

tholdren
07-23-2020, 05:29 PM
lolololololololol

Wrong data and mad

Splits gone craycray

baseline bum
07-23-2020, 05:56 PM
Damn Thread must really be in the mass graves by now, hasn't logged in for three days. RIP cubby

Update (23 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 147,240
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

hater
07-23-2020, 06:09 PM
Damn Thread must really be in the mass graves by now, hasn't logged in for three days. RIP cubby

Update (23 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 147,240
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

:cry

RIP Giusseppe

He joined Kobe in purgatory :tu

TimDunkem
07-23-2020, 06:22 PM
RIP Culburn Giuseppe Castleberry 1920-2020

Trainwreck2100
07-23-2020, 07:32 PM
can't fault the man, he died for his beliefs, hopefully many many many many idiots decide to mirror that sacrifice

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:20 PM
notice these getting buried

Ifr

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:21 PM
IfrShow your math.

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:26 PM
Show your math.

Quick do yours

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:28 PM
Quick do yoursf:lolldren f:lollds

Why are you afraid of math whenever anyone asks you to show yours?

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:29 PM
f:lolldren f:lollds

Why are you afraid of math whenever anyone asks you to show yours?

Sea lion time

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:30 PM
Sea lion time:lol folding time for you

Too easy.

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:40 PM
f:lolldren f:lollds

Why are you afraid of math whenever anyone asks you to show yours?

Why do you always answer a question with a question?

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:41 PM
Why do you always answer a question with a question?Because you folded and didn't show your math.

Why do we scare you?

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:42 PM
Because you folded and didn't show your math.

Why do we scare you?

You just answered a question with a question.

I win again

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:43 PM
You just answered a question with a question.

I win againI answered.

f:lolldren f:lollds

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:45 PM
I answered.

f:lolldren f:lollds

goalpost move

Sea lion deflection

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:46 PM
goalpost move

Sea lion deflectionNope. I answered.

You can't show your math.

Ever.

You fold.

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:47 PM
Because you folded and didn't show your math.

Why do we scare you?

pwned

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:53 PM
pwned:lol you're scared of math.

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:54 PM
People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:57 PM
People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover

bwahahahhaajhajajajajajJjJJjJJJJJlolIooo

baseline bum
07-24-2020, 07:58 PM
Update (24 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 148,483+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:58 PM
People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover

tholdren
07-24-2020, 08:07 PM
In a briefing with reporters last week, Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for health at the Department of Health and Human Services, said that a required negative test after a confirmed infection was because of early outbreaks in cruise ships where people were quarantined and looking to get out.

“That is no longer needed, and it is medically unnecessary,” he said.

tholdren
07-24-2020, 08:08 PM
And the end of daily case count is here



The CDC also notes that virus fragments have been found in patients up to three months after the onset of the illness, although those pieces of virus have not been shown to be capable of transmitting the disease.

“You could be positive by PCR test long after no longer being infectious,” Giroir said during the Health and Human Services briefing July 1

tholdren
07-24-2020, 08:09 PM
Lololol ChumpDumper show your math RandomGuy


BwahahhahahahahahhahHHHH

tholdren
07-24-2020, 08:10 PM
strange this was buried for a over a week in the news.... really should be a headline

tholdren
07-24-2020, 08:59 PM
Loopolloolokll let baselinebum proceed

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 09:01 PM
th:lolldren babbling now

baseline bum
07-24-2020, 09:01 PM
Loopolloolokll let baselinebum proceed

You been drinking again?

ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 09:02 PM
You been drinking again?I think we finally broke him with math questions.

tholdren
07-24-2020, 09:06 PM
And the end of daily case count is here



The CDC also notes that virus fragments have been found in patients up to three months after the onset of the illness, although those pieces of virus have not been shown to be capable of transmitting the disease.

“You could be positive by PCR test long after no longer being infectious,” Giroir said during the Health and Human Services briefing July 1

ElNono
07-24-2020, 10:44 PM
Update (24 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 148,483+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

baseline bum
07-25-2020, 06:39 PM
Thread man, you ready to cross 150k?

Update (25 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 149,339+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-26-2020, 03:16 PM
Covid death can be attributed to people not even conformed having covid.

ElNono
07-26-2020, 04:58 PM
Thread man, you ready to cross 150k?

Update (25 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 149,339+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

tholdren
07-26-2020, 09:02 PM
Covid death can be attributed to people not even conformed having covid.

bump due to no one can refute

baseline bum
07-26-2020, 10:00 PM
Thread man, we didn't cross 150k today

Update (26 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 149,849+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-26-2020, 11:05 PM
bump due to no one can refute

apalisoc_9
07-27-2020, 12:19 AM
Why would anyone feel the need to refute any claims you fart out of your behind?

Stop naking claims, and give actual studies and investigations to prove your point

slick'81
07-27-2020, 12:32 AM
Why would anyone feel the need to refute any claims you fart out of your behind?

Stop naking claims, and give actual studies and investigations to prove your point

i dont understand why people keep trying to have an actual conversation with it

tholdren
07-27-2020, 08:37 AM
Why would anyone feel the need to refute any claims you fart out of your behind?

Stop naking claims, and give actual studies and investigations to prove your point

you don't even have to be posotive to count as a cov8d.positive /thread

tholdren
07-27-2020, 10:50 AM
you don't even have to be posotive to count as a cov8d.positive /thread
Can't argue with that data

clambake
07-27-2020, 11:12 AM
The real number is much closer to 175,000 trump slaughtered Americans.

pgardn
07-27-2020, 11:24 AM
Can't argue with that data

Oh so now the tests are ok...

You have no idea which data has the likelihood of being more accurate than other data, not a clue.
And you can always argue with data if it is gathered haphazardly like you have ALREADY argued.
But it ignore it if it suits you. Personally, I think certain symptoms are very solid, eg lost of taste and smell. But this has to be asked of the patient.
Have you looked at the correlation between loss of taste and smell and + tests via swab to the brain?

NO you have not, so you have no clue as to what data is considered more accurate because

1. You are stupid
2. You dont understand the biology of the testing.
3. You are stupid

boutons_deux
07-27-2020, 11:41 AM
Georgia’s Coronavirus Crisis Is Being Covered Up


Since Georgia’s Republican Gov. Brian Kemp reopened the economy, infection rates have skyrocketed. But the state has found a way to deal with the problem —

by making the surge of new cases disappear from the government’s official COVID-19 tracking website.

he has taken punitive action against localities that try to impose mask mandates.

as infection rates have skyrocketed,

Kemp administration officials have shifted the color-coding of Georgia’s virus tracking map in ways that make it seem as if nothing is changing.

The revelations are the latest example of states obscuring hard data about the pandemic.

more Americans are questioning the severity of the pandemic and how many people are dying,

even as coronavirus cases are exploding across the country.

cases in the state have steadily risen since the beginning of June, with the seven-day rolling average of cases increasing by 47 percent (https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/) since July 2.

his administration is publishing maps that purport to track infection rates in the state, but that are adjusting color codes in ways that seem to downplay the crisis.

Maps Whose Colors Barely Change, Even as the Emergency Worsens

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/07/george-coronavirus-brian-kemp-covid-map?utm_source=Jacobin&utm_campaign=9547ad8fd8-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_10_01_07_50_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_be8b1b2846-9547ad8fd8-85395805&mc_cid=9547ad8fd8&mc_eid=33263fe77b (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/07/george-coronavirus-brian-kemp-covid-map?utm_source=Jacobin&utm_campaign=9547ad8fd8-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_10_01_07_50_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_be8b1b2846-9547ad8fd8-85395805&mc_cid=9547ad8fd8&mc_eid=33263fe77b)

Lying, corrupt, criminal Repug govt "flooding the zone with shit" to confuse people, and to keep the pandemic worsening.

tholdren
07-27-2020, 12:24 PM
Oh so now the tests are ok...

You have no idea which data has the likelihood of being more accurate than other data, not a clue.
And you can always argue with data if it is gathered haphazardly like you have ALREADY argued.
But it ignore it if it suits you. Personally, I think certain symptoms are very solid, eg lost of taste and smell. But this has to be asked of the patient.
Have you looked at the correlation between loss of taste and smell and + tests via swab to the brain?

NO you have not, so you have no clue as to what data is considered more accurate because

1. You are stupid
2. You dont understand the biology of the testing.
3. You are stupid

Bwahahahhahahahahahahha

You dont even understand. Lololooololollkl

Cases are expanded to get as many people counted as a case as the cdc can. It is why the cdc titles it expanded cases.

Then since you do not even have to have a symptom to be counted as a case, those people will die and count as covid death. Its like adding probables and possibles into death counts and trying to explain that states don't count probable deaths.

Every time you name call it backfires because you made this political and threw logic and statistics out the window.


Try to keep up.....

ElNono
07-27-2020, 12:54 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahahahha

You dont even understand. Lololooololollkl

Cases are expanded to get as many people counted as a case as the cdc can. It is why the cdc titles it expanded cases.

Then since you do not even have to have a symptom to be counted as a case, those people will die and count as covid death. Its like adding probables and possibles into death counts and trying to explain that states don't count probable deaths.

Every time you name call it backfires because you made this political and threw logic and statistics out the window.


Try to keep up.....

wrong

tholdren
07-27-2020, 12:55 PM
wrong

go ahead el nono take a stab at the wrong here... lol betcha wont

ChumpDumper
07-27-2020, 12:57 PM
go ahead el nono take a stab at the wrong here... lol betcha wont:lol you're afraid of math

tholdren
07-27-2020, 12:57 PM
:lol you're afraid of math

chumpdump calling out el nono


Beahahhahahhahahagagagaggagagagaga

ElNono
07-27-2020, 12:58 PM
go ahead el nono take a stab at the wrong here... lol betcha wont

more gossip. show your math

ChumpDumper
07-27-2020, 12:58 PM
chumpdump calling out el nono


Beahahhahahhahahagagagaggagagagaga:lol I called you out and you're melting down.

tholdren
07-27-2020, 12:59 PM
:lol I called you out and you're melting down.

backtrack loloolololl

ChumpDumper
07-27-2020, 12:59 PM
backtrack loloololollWrong.

pgardn
07-27-2020, 01:47 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahahahha

You dont even understand. Lololooololollkl

Cases are expanded to get as many people counted as a case as the cdc can. It is why the cdc titles it expanded cases.

Then since you do not even have to have a symptom to be counted as a case, those people will die and count as covid death. Its like adding probables and possibles into death counts and trying to explain that states don't count probable deaths.

Every time you name call it backfires because you made this political and threw logic and statistics out the window.


Try to keep up.....

You think all data has equal standing and dont even look into how its gathered.
You, are an idiot.

AND, you cant handle any math.

tholdren
07-27-2020, 03:24 PM
You think all data has equal standing and dont even look into how its gathered.
You, are an idiot.

AND, you cant handle any math.

bwahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahH
You just argued against yourself.




Beahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahshahahahshhahah ahahahhahshshshahahhshshshshshhshshshshahahahhshsh shahahshshhss

tholdren
07-27-2020, 03:25 PM
You think all data has equal standing and dont even look into how its gathered.
You, are an idiot.

AND, you cant handle any math.

I have to quote this again.




Beahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahagahhahahahahahahha hahahahahahahhahahahahhahahshshshahshgshshahahahah hahahahahahhahagahahahHGah

tholdren
07-27-2020, 03:26 PM
You think all data has equal standing and dont even look into how its gathered.
You, are an idiot.

AND, you cant handle any math.

and one more time because you've almost figured it out, but haven't.


Baabababbabababababbababababababababbababababababb ababababababbabsbsbababshshshshjsjdjdjdjdjdjfjjffk

ChumpDumper
07-27-2020, 03:34 PM
th:lolldren meltdown

baseline bum
07-27-2020, 10:28 PM
Update (27 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 150,444+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

ChumpDumper
07-27-2020, 10:29 PM
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
f:lolldren

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:51 AM
Reports coming in that fatalities due to lockdown will far surpass covid fatalities. Going to be tough on the ChumpDumper.

More kids dying of famine in a month due to lockdown. Than u
All under 20 deaths.


Sad.

And I told you so

clambake
07-28-2020, 10:57 AM
Update (27 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 150,444+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
Much closer to 180,000 dead Americans. The trump killings continue.

Winehole23
07-28-2020, 11:27 AM
Reports coming in that fatalities due to lockdown will far surpass covid fatalities. Going to be tough on the ChumpDumper.

More kids dying of famine in a month due to lockdown. Than u
All under 20 deaths.
Plausible, since pandemics and recessions increase food insecurity and children under ten are rarely symptomatic for COVID-19 if they catch it.

I didn't know hunger was quite that bad in the US, where did you find a figure for US deaths by hunger, by age group?

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 12:47 PM
Reports coming in that fatalities due to lockdown will far surpass covid fatalities. Going to be tough on the ChumpDumper.

More kids dying of famine in a month due to lockdown. Than u
All under 20 deaths.


Sad.

And I told you soGossip.

And I told you so.

Winehole23
07-28-2020, 12:56 PM
Plausible, since pandemics and recessions increase food insecurity and children under ten are rarely symptomatic for COVID-19 if they catch it.

I didn't know hunger was quite that bad in the US, where did you find a figure for US deaths by hunger, by age group?tholdren demands answers and citations from others on the reg, but runs away when asked for the same.

baseline bum
07-28-2020, 06:48 PM
Update (28 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 152,145+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:32 PM
Plausible, since pandemics and recessions increase food insecurity and children under ten are rarely symptomatic for COVID-19 if they catch it.

I didn't know hunger was quite that bad in the US, where did you find a figure for US deaths by hunger, by age group?

Worldwide.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:33 PM
Plausible, since pandemics and recessions increase food insecurity and children under ten are rarely symptomatic for COVID-19 if they catch it.

I didn't know hunger was quite that bad in the US, where did you find a figure for US deaths by hunger, by age group?

Worldwide.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:35 PM
However you are on the right track for the us looking at lockdown deaths. This is why raw data count for cases and deaths is false data.

baseline bum
07-28-2020, 09:40 PM
However you are on the right track for the us looking at lockdown deaths. This is why raw data count for cases and deaths is false data.

The guy who slams Fauci for taking a drink of water wants to talk fake news. :lol

tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:43 PM
The guy who slams Fauci for taking a drink of water wants to talk fake news. :lol

Lololol no water bottle in sight. How about the 6 ft between them? Oh thats right. Whats good for thee is not for me.

pgardn
07-28-2020, 09:44 PM
Reports coming in that fatalities due to lockdown will far surpass covid fatalities. Going to be tough on the ChumpDumper.

More kids dying of famine in a month due to lockdown. Than u
All under 20 deaths.


Sad.

And I told you so

like we trust you to get data for deaths due to lock down...

Simpleton, sit down.

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 09:48 PM
Lololol no water bottle in sight. :lol you still don't see it?

Sad.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:54 PM
like we trust you to get data for deaths due to lock down...

Simpleton, sit down.
BwahhahaHhHashausjsssususususususuzusususususususu susususususususususususususususususususushshshshsh shs


Pgardn


LI'llolololllolll

tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:56 PM
:lol you still don't see it?

Sad.

Only thing in his hands is his cell phone. While he's talking to the person on his left with his mask on his chin.


Not social distancing

And lying

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 09:59 PM
Only thing in his hands:lmao you still don't see it.

You are not smart.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:00 PM
:lmao you still don't see it.

You are not smart.
So his waterbottle is in his hands? Yes or no?

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:02 PM
So his waterbottle is in his hands? Yes or no?You said there was no water bottle at all.

Now you want to move the goalpost.

:lol You are not smart.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:04 PM
You said there was no water bottle at all.

Now you want to move the goalpost.

:lol You are not smart.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/24/dr-anthony-fauci-says-photo-him-without-mask-baseb/

You can view the picture and his response here. He says he was hydrating.

He's a liar

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:06 PM
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/24/dr-anthony-fauci-says-photo-him-without-mask-baseb/

You can view the picture and his response here. He says he was hydrating.

He's a liar:lmao Moonie newspaper

Everything about you makes sense now.

You said there was no bottle.

You're a liar.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:07 PM
“I was drinking water trying to rehydrate myself,” Dr. Fauci said.

“I wear a mask all the time when I am outside,” he added. “If people want to make something about that they can, but to me, I think that is mischievous.”

He was not drinking
He was not wearing a mask
He was not social distancing

He's high risk

Yet he's still alive

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:07 PM
:lmao Moonie newspaper

Everything about you makes sense now.

You said there was no bottle.

You're a liar.
So you are saying the photo and his response is fake? Yes or no?

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:08 PM
:lmao Moonie newspaper

Everything about you makes sense now.

You said there was no bottle.

You're a liar.
So you are saying the photo and his response is fake? Yes or no?

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:10 PM
Chumpdump wondering how many times fauci getting caught lying...

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:10 PM
So you are saying the photo and his response is fake? Yes or no?I'm saying you said there was no water bottle and you're a liar.

He certainly could've put the bottle there right after hydrating.

He could be lying.

You're definitely lying.

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:10 PM
Chumpdump wondering how many times fauci getting caught lying...Less than the number of times you've been caught lying here....

Death In June
07-28-2020, 10:11 PM
tholdren is one youtube video away from being a flat earther. I don't think there's any point in arguing with him.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:12 PM
I'm saying you said there was no water bottle and you're a liar.

He certainly could've put the bottle there right after hydrating.

He could be lying.

You're definitely lying.

Bwahayhahauauauaausssussssusssasu


Chumpdump hero

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:12 PM
Bwahayhahauauauaausssussssusssasu


Chumpdump hero:lol Trump is your hero.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:12 PM
tholdren is one youtube video away from being a flat earther. I don't think there's any point in arguing with him.

Remember those hospitals? 0 ovwer capacity....

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:13 PM
:lol Trump is your hero.

Nope. But keep lying

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:13 PM
Remember those hospitals? 0 ovwer capacity....You hid in your bunker when the valley hospitals were full.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:13 PM
“So, I guess people want to make it a big event. I wear a mask all the time when I’m outside. To pull it down to take some sips of water and put it back up again -- I guess if people want to make something about that they can,” he said. “But to me, I think that’s just mischievous, John.


Lolololo

Fauci lies

pgardn
07-28-2020, 10:14 PM
Bwahayhahauauauaausssussssusssasu


Chumpdump hero

And....

The tap out.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:14 PM
You hid in your bunker when the valley hospitals were full.

they were never full so I guess no bunker for me

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:15 PM
And....

The tap out.
Already proved fauci lied. I win

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:15 PM
And....

The tap out.Happens every time.

He's gonna change the subject now rather than admit he lied.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:17 PM
Happens every time.

He's gonna change the subject now rather than admit he lied.
You lied not me

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:18 PM
You lied not me
Wrong.

tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:19 PM
Wrong.

thats why you like fauci you both lie

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:19 PM
thats why you like fauci you both lieI don't lie.

Why do you lie?

Oh right, your insecurity.:lol

pgardn
07-28-2020, 10:20 PM
Happens every time.

He's gonna change the subject now rather than admit he lied.

he’s an old man pretending to be something he is not.

he needs to go play with his grandkids.
and he needs to be prohibited from talking to them about science or math
but he should be good for storytelling

ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 10:23 PM
he’s an old man pretending to be something he is not.

he needs to go play with his grandkids.
and he needs to be prohibited from talking to them about science or math
but he should be good for storytellingThey're probably glad they're forbidden to visit him in person.

baseline bum
07-29-2020, 05:47 PM
Update (29 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 153,409+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

TimDunkem
07-29-2020, 05:58 PM
Update (29 July 2020):::

Trump's Corona Plague dead: 153,409+
tholdren conspiracy dead: <still unpublished>
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

313 deaths reported in Texas today. Thankfully, Dr. :lolldren told me 300 of them were deep fryer deaths last month.

tholdren
07-29-2020, 10:26 PM
313 deaths reported in Texas today. Thankfully, Dr. :lolldren told me 300 of them were deep fryer deaths last month.

bwahahhahahaha


How many really occured today?
How many actually were positive?
How many even occurred this month?

If you cant answer you gossip queen.

I'll wait

tholdren
07-29-2020, 10:28 PM
bwahahhahahaha


How many really occured today?
How many actually were positive?
How many even occurred this month?

If you cant answer you gossip queen.

I'll wait
Baseline bums gossip king

ChumpDumper
07-29-2020, 10:28 PM
bwahahhahahaha


How many really occured today?
How many actually were positive?
How many even occurred this month?

If you cant answer you gossip queen.

I'll waitWe're still waiting for your conspiracy total.:lol

baseline bum
07-29-2020, 10:28 PM
bwahahhahahaha


How many really occured today?
How many actually were positive?
How many even occurred this month?

If you cant answer you gossip queen.

I'll wait

Still waiting for foldren conspiracy dead count to add to the list

baseline bum
07-29-2020, 10:29 PM
Baseline bums gossip king

You were the one gossiping about Fauci taking a drink of water

ChumpDumper
07-29-2020, 10:30 PM
You were the one gossiping about Fauci taking a drink of water:lol He's so stupid he couldn't even see the water bottle.

midnightpulp
07-29-2020, 11:15 PM
bwahahhahahaha


How many really occured today?
How many actually were positive?
How many even occurred this month?

If you cant answer you gossip queen.

I'll wait

Texas is really getting hammered. Stay safe, buddy

tholdren
07-30-2020, 12:09 AM
You were the one gossiping about Fauci taking a drink of water

he wasn't.

tholdren
07-30-2020, 12:09 AM
Texas is really getting hammered. Stay safe, buddy

Show your scatterplot again. BwahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaH

ElNono
07-30-2020, 12:15 AM
^^^ lmao meltdown

tholdren
07-30-2020, 12:30 PM
^^^ lmao meltdown

Texas releasing many unconfirmed cases of covid as covid deaths dating march.

Oh my. All these new cases that are actually last week cases that may or may not be confirmed are causing these brand new daily fatalities... from March

Now thats some math

TimDunkem
07-30-2020, 12:33 PM
Lies. They're from death certificates with Covid listed as the cause of death.

:lolldren lies.

tholdren
07-30-2020, 12:36 PM
Lies. They're from death certificates with Covid listed as the cause of death.

:lolldren lies.

From March counted as deaths today so you will think that cases driving deaths.

Additionally, and more importantly, you do not have to even have symptoms to be a covid case. Nor do you have to have a pos test to be identified as a case. Once you are identified as a case you are a covid fatality.

Lolool

You dont understand this. Which is why your arguments are low level

TimDunkem
07-30-2020, 12:42 PM
I said nothing about what's driving today's deaths. I was responding to your lie about the newly added deaths.

Then you respond with another lie.

:lolldren lies. Talk about low level. Bwahaha just like 45% set shot 2s.

clambake
07-30-2020, 12:43 PM
+ 30,000 dead Americans from trump killing spree. Hidden, not counted.

tholdren
07-30-2020, 12:48 PM
I said nothing about what's driving today's deaths. I was responding to your lie about the newly added deaths.

Then you respond with another lie.

:lolldren lies. Talk about low level. Bwahaha just like 45% set shot 2s.

There is no lie. Just your ignorance of how data is collected and reported.

TimDunkem
07-30-2020, 12:55 PM
Says the one who never shows his math repeating lies about the data we do have.

Go on, meltdown about it again. F5f5f5f5f5f5 Bwahahahaha Silly grandpa.