The Count of Corona...

[RD2191]

Downtown Austin, baby!

1352734359875432453
Geezus Christ..smh

[ChumpDumper]

Geezus Christ..smhWe've been at our highest COVID stage for over a month. The state government basically wants to kill off as many people as possible to just get it over with already.

[NASpurs]

But seriously, did big Rona get OP? Hasn't posted this year.

[Winehole23]

We've been at our highest COVID stage for over a month. The state government basically wants to kill off as many people as possible to just get it over with already.Trump's coronavirus task force urged Texas to take stronger COVID-19 countermeasures to no avail, I can't imagine they'll remove the wax from their ears for Joe Biden.

[RD2191]

We've been at our highest COVID stage for over a month. The state government basically wants to kill off as many people as possible to just get it over with already.
Yeah, I travel from the RGV to SA regularly and it's a shit show down here in the RGV also. Especially since most people here have multiple comorbidities. I also believe that the virus has made it's way through most of the population down here. We're nearing 60k confirmed cases in Hidalgo county, that leaves out people who never got tested and people who were/are asymptomatic.

[RD2191]

But seriously, did big Mona get OP? Hasn't posted this year.
I wish Big Mona got me.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I travel from the RGV to SA regularly and it's a shit show down here in the RGV also. Especially since most people here have multiple comorbidities. I also believe that the virus has made it's way through most of the population down here. We're nearing 60k confirmed cases in Hidalgo county, that leaves out people who never got tested and people who were/are asymptomatic.That would be the only saving grace. Could be the reason your current wave isn't as steep this time.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah, I travel from the RGV to SA regularly and it's a shit show down here in the RGV also. Especially since most people here have multiple comorbidities. I also believe that the virus has made it's way through most of the population down here. We're nearing 60k confirmed cases in Hidalgo county, that leaves out people who never got tested and people who were/are asymptomatic.


That would be the only saving grace. Could be the reason your current wave isn't as steep this time.

Yea, that must be it.

[ChumpDumper]

Yea, that must be it.What do you say it is, derp?

Step up.

[Spurtacular]

:cry

You'll find the most convenient narrative(s) for yourself.

It is what it is.

[ChumpDumper]

You'll find the most convenient narrative(s) for yourself.

It is what it is.What do you say it is, derp?

I am calling you out with a direct question for you to answer.

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

[Spurtacular]

What do you say it is, derp?

I am calling you out with a direct question for you to answer.

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

Is this what you're settling on for cases going way down suddenly; herd immunity?

[ChumpDumper]

Is this what you're settling on for cases going way down suddenly; herd immunity?Dodge #2.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #2.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

You said it could be the reason. I'm just trying to confirm that I'm understanding you right.

I guess if you want to dodge, then that's what you're gonna do.

[ChumpDumper]

You said it could be the reason. I'm just trying to confirm that I'm understanding you right.

I guess if you want to dodge, then that's what you're gonna do.Dodge #3.

I believe once ~20% of a county is immune, the spread of the virus can be slower than it was when 0% was immune.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

[DMC]

:lol the mask gestapo on patrol, don't have the foggiest how effective they are, didn't stay home either.

:lol the left always needs to be hall monitors.

[ChumpDumper]

Make sure no one wears a mask the next time you have surgery, DMC.:tu

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #3.

I believe once ~20% of a county is immune, the spread of the virus can be slower than it was when 0% was immune.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

So herd immunity, then. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

So herd immunity, then. :tuNo. Hundreds are still infected and scores dying every day in Hidalgo County. That is nowhere near herd immunity. You don't know what you're talking about as usual.

Dodge #4.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch.

What do you say it is, pathetic little bitch?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

lol derp

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1352720773451051008?s=19

lol well Hater maybe you're right and Biden will exceed Trump's body count

I really didn't think he would surrender to the virus after only 3 days :lol

[clambake]

Qtards trying so hard lol

[Spurtacular]

No. Hundreds are still infected and scores dying every day in Hidalgo County. That is nowhere near herd immunity. You don't know what you're talking about as usual.

Dodge #4.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch.

What do you say it is, pathetic little bitch?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch.

lol derp

Based on the tests that they just admitted are bull shit.

Say herd immunity if that's what you believe in, derp.

[ChumpDumper]

Qtards trying so hard lolIt's amazing just how stupid they want us to know they are.

[ChumpDumper]

Based on the tests that they just admitted are bull shit.

Say herd immunity if that's what you believe in, derp.Dodge #5.

I said exactly what I believe.

You don't know what herd immunity is.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch terrified to answer a simple question.

What do you say it is, pathetic little bitch?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch afraid of me.

lol derp

[Ef-man]

:lmao

Derp is Chump’s muzzled cucked spaniel.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden says it will take months to turn things around.

Trumptards believed their Dear Leader when he said cases would go down to zero in a week.:lmao

[Monostradamus]

Based on the tests that they just admitted are bull shit.

Say herd immunity if that's what you believe in, derp.
Make a thread with an alt account about what you really believe, Derp.

Make two or three even. If you actually have the stomach for the fight, that is.

I’m betting you curl up on Chump’s lap and beg him to take the muzzle off.

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #5.

I said exactly what I believe.

You don't know what herd immunity is.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch terrified to answer a simple question.

What do you say it is, pathetic little bitch?

Step up or fold like a pathetic little bitch afraid of me.

lol derp

You're saying that the masses are building a level of immunity. That is literally herd immunity, derp.

But if you don't believe in herd immunity, just say so. Stop running.

[A Slob's Slob]

Make a thread with an alt account about what you really believe, Derp.

Make two or three even. If you actually have the stomach for the fight, that is.

I’m betting you curl up on Chump’s lap and beg him to take the muzzle off.

Boom.

[Monostradamus]

https://i.insider.com/5dca594d79d757313008e074?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp
Only replies, no new threads :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You're saying that the masses are building a level of immunity. That is literally herd immunity, derp.Dodge #6.

No. Hidalgo County is nowhere near the levels needed for herd immunity.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch terrified to answer a simple question.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me.

[ChumpDumper]

Make a thread with an alt account about what you really believe, Derp.

Make two or three even. If you actually have the stomach for the fight, that is.

I’m betting you curl up on Chump’s lap and beg him to take the muzzle off.:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #6.

No. Hidalgo County is nowhere near the levels needed for herd immunity.

Question pending, pathetic little bitch terrified to answer a simple question.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me.

:cry Herd immunity means everyone is immune :cry
:cry Magic wand and all :cry

[ChumpDumper]

:cry Herd immunity means everyone is immune :cry
:cry Magic wand and all :cryDodge #7.

Herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread anymore, derp.

The virus is still spreading, derp.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me, derp.

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #7.

Herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread anymore, derp.

The virus is still spreading, derp.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me, derp.

:cry Cos of magic wand :cry

At best you're splitting hairs, derp. Herd immunity would develop in stages.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry Cos of magic wand :cry

At best you're splitting hairs, derp. Herd immunity would develop in stages.Dodge #8.

No, herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread, derp.

The virus is still spreading, derp.

It's not my job to cure your ignorance, derp.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me, derp.

[pgardn]

To be fair, the Navalny protests have to be triggering him today.

absolutely

not a whimper about it from him though.

I asked him if the protesters would be allowed to enter the Kremlin under supervision, he declined to answer.

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #8.

No, herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread, derp.

The virus is still spreading, derp.

It's not my job to cure your ignorance, derp.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me, derp.

You've admitted you believe in some form of herd immunity if not outright.

[ChumpDumper]

absolutely

not a whimper about it from him though.

I asked him if the protesters would be allowed to enter the Kremlin under supervision, he declined to answer.He shook.

Some amazing pics and vids I've seen in just a few tweets.

[ChumpDumper]

You've admitted you believe in some form of herd immunity if not outright.Dodge #9.

Herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread, derp.

The virus is still spreading, derp.

Herd immunity is an actual thing and is a goal of the vaccination campaign, so you believe in vaccines now.

It's not my job to cure your ignorance, derp.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me, derp.

[Spurtacular]

Dodge #9.

No, herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread, derp.

The virus is still spreading, derp.

It's not my job to cure your ignorance, derp.

Question pending, derp.

What do you say it is, derp?

Step up or forever admit your crippling fear of me, derp.

Give us your list of diseases that stopped based on everyone being immune.

[ChumpDumper]

Dodge #9.

Give us your list of diseases that stopped based on everyone being immune.Smallpox and polio off the top of my head.

Measles before you tards stopped getting vaccinated.

Enough people got immunized that no new infections occurred.

Question pending, derp.

What do you think it is, derp?

[Spurtacular]

Smallpox and polio off the top of my head.

Measles before you tards stopped getting vaccinated.

Those vaccinations included the disease itself in them. COVID vaccinations don't.

[Monostradamus]

The goalpost moves by Derp :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Those vaccinations included the disease itself in them. COVID vaccinations don't.:lol And?

Dodge #10.

Question pending, derp.

What do you think is causing the lower acceleration in the rate of infection in Hidalgo County this time, derp?

[Spurtacular]

The goalpost moves by Derp :lmao

Jumping in to be Chump's buttlicker. That's a fall from grace even for you, Slob.

[ChumpDumper]

The goalpost moves by Derp :lmao:lmao ten straight dodges when he actually agrees with me.

This is how deeply I have scarred derp.

[ChumpDumper]

Jumping in to be Chump's buttlicker. That's a fall from grace even for you, Slob.

It's OK that I terrify you, derp.

I just want to know why.

[Spurtacular]

:lol And?


And vaccinations containing the disease itself supports the concept of herd immunity, which you've admitted you believe in.

[ChumpDumper]

And vaccinations containing the disease itself supports the concept of herd immunity, which you've admitted you believe in.They don't have to contain the disease itself for me to support the goal of herd immunity through vaccinations, derp.

:lmao derp

Take a breath. Understand that you agree with me; you're just too stupid to get the terms and concepts right.

[Spurtacular]

They don't have to contain the disease itself for me to support the goal of herd immunity through vaccinations, derp.

:lmao derp

Take a breath. Understand that you agree with me; you're just too stupid to get the terms and concepts right.

So, you think herd immunity and eradication are one in the same, then?

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/LtCB03t/49201739-4-D5-C-43-F8-8-D18-4305-F3020-D83.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

So, you think herd immunity and eradication are one in the same, then?:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:ro llin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rol lin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:roll in:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Spurtacular]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:r ollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:ro llin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

You and your logic are becoming unraveled. You know this; that's what this is.

So, you think herd immunity and eradication are one in the same, then?

Yes or no.

[Momo]

:lmao

[TimDunkem]

:lmao Derp

[ChumpDumper]

You and your logic are becoming unraveled. You know this; that's what this is.

So, you think herd immunity and eradication are one in the same, then?

Yes or no.:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:l mao:lmao:lmao

This is without a doubt the stupidest deflection attempt I have ever seen, derp.

How did you get this desperate, derp?

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/LtCB03t/49201739-4-D5-C-43-F8-8-D18-4305-F3020-D83.jpg

[Spurtacular]

^^

And you're as triggered as ever, Slob. Maybe you should stop wasting the admins' time.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao

This is without a doubt the stupidest deflection attempt I have ever seen, derp.

How did you get this desperate, derp?

So, you think herd immunity and eradication are one in the same, then?

Yes or no.

[Monostradamus]

^^

And you're as triggered as ever, Slob. Maybe you should stop wasting the admins' time.
Why are you trying to hide that Momo is your alt?

[ChumpDumper]

So, you think herd immunity and eradication are one in the same, then?

Yes or no.No.

That's something you would say.

What led you to conclude I thought they were the same, derp?

[Spurtacular]

Why are you trying to hide that Momo (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54155) is your alt?

You want people to believe I have alts that tell people to kill themselves?

That's your thing, slob.

[ChumpDumper]

You want people to believe I have alts that tell people to kill themselves?

That's your thing, slob.You try to imitate other posters with your alts, derp.

That's your thing, derp.

[Spurtacular]

No.

That's something you would say.

What led you to conclude I thought they were the same, derp?

You've already said you can't have herd immunity without eradication, derp. :lol

[Spurtacular]

You try to imitate other posters with your alts, derp.

That's your thing, derp.

Mmm. So, you're saying the screen name mimics chumpettes' cries for people to kill themselves.

:lolK

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/LtCB03t/49201739-4-D5-C-43-F8-8-D18-4305-F3020-D83.jpg

[TimDunkem]

lol Cuckette Derp cucked by Chump and the mods. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You've already said you can't have herd immunity without eradication, derp. :lol:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rol lin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:roll in:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rolli n:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

No.

You're an idiot, derp.

[ChumpDumper]

Mmm. So, you're saying the screen name mimics chumpettes' cries for people to kill themselves.

:lolKI'm saying you make multiple alts trying to imitate posters who hurt you, derp.

[Spurtacular]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:r ollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:ro llin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

No.

You're an idiot, derp.

Explain the difference between eradication and herd immunity, then.

[Spurtacular]

I'm saying you make multiple alts trying to imitate posters who hurt you, derp.

You tattle to the admins cos you're hurt (badly).

[TimDunkem]

^cuck

[ChumpDumper]

Explain the difference between eradication and herd immunity, then.:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:ro llin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rol lin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:roll in:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rolli n:rollin
No.

You'll have to look up the difference yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

You tattle to the admins cos you're hurt (badly).I stop you from spamming.

Good boy.

Behave yourself and you won't be hurt (badly) further.

[Spurtacular]

I stop you from spamming.

Good boy.

Behave yourself and you won't be hurt (badly) further.

You're a narc, not a hero. :lol :lmao :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

You're a narc, not a hero. :lol :lmao :rollinI stopped you.:tu

Good boy.

[Spurtacular]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:r ollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:ro llin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rol lin
No.

You'll have to look up the difference yourself.

You don't have an explanation. You've already stated that herd immunity is eradication.

And then you answered that they're not to try and confuse the issue.

[ChumpDumper]

You don't have an explanation. You've already stated that herd immunity is eradication.
No.

Smallpox has been eradicated.

You are not immune from smallpox.

[Monostradamus]

lol @ the muzzled cocker spaniel whimpering away in this thread :lmao

[Spurtacular]

No.

Smallpox has been eradicated.

You are not immune from smallpox.

Nice slight of hand (except not).

You already said small pox was achieved through herd immunity.

Again, you don't have any explanation on what if any distinction is between herd immunity and eradication.

[ChumpDumper]

Nice slight of hand (except not).

You already said small pox was achieved through herd immunity.Yes. Herd immunity is a tool used to eradicate a disease.

They are therefore two different things.

Smallpox is eradicated.

There is currently no herd immunity to smallpox.

[Monostradamus]

Nice slight of hand (except not).

You already said small pox was achieved through herd immunity.

Again, you don't have any explanation on what if any distinction is between herd immunity and eradication.
:lmao “slight” of hand
:lmao Derp gonna derp

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao “slight” of hand
:lmao Derp gonna derp:lol he's just so stupid and really angry about how stupid he is.

[Spurtacular]

Yes. Herd immunity is a tool used to eradicate a disease.

They are therefore two different things.

Smallpox is eradicated.

There is currently no herd immunity to smallpox.

:lol "A tool."

And what exactly does this tool comprise?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol "A tool."

And what exactly does this tool comprise?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/39e0595c3641357b49b9b394ef3a6672/tenor.gif

They're two different things derp.

If you don't think so, go to Atlanta and get yourself some smallpox.

Please.

[hater]

:lol "A tool."

And what exactly does this tool comprise?

Lol chump

Herd immunity is an end goal. Not a tool :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Lol chump

Herd immunity is an end goal. Not a tool :lol:lmao hater

Are eradication and herd immunity the same thing?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao hater

Are eradication and herd immunity the same thing?

Yes or no.

Chump's looking for answers to explain his bull sh**. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Chump's looking for answers to explain his bull sh**. :lolNo.

Eradication and herd immunity are two different things.

Why are you so stupid, derp?

[Spurtacular]

No.

Eradication and herd immunity are two different things.

Why are you so stupid, derp?

You've already said that you don't have herd immunity without eradication.

[ChumpDumper]

You've already said that you don't have herd immunity without eradication.Quote it.

[Spurtacular]

Quote it.

I thought you'd wait at least 24 hours before trying to pull this sh**. You're desperate.

[ChumpDumper]

I thought you'd wait at least 24 hours before trying to pull this sh**. You're desperate.You made a claim:

You've already said that you don't have herd immunity without eradication.
I am calling you out to quote it or fold again like a little bitch, derp.

Quote.

It.

Now.

[Spurtacular]

Herd immunity means the virus doesn't spread anymore.

Sounds like eradication.

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds like eradication.Nope.

You don't understand the difference because you are stupid, derp.

[Spurtacular]

Nope.

You don't understand the difference because you are stupid, derp.

Eradication would be the most glaring outcome. What other outcomes are you claiming could be resulting in herd immunity?

[ChumpDumper]

Eradication would be the most blaring outcome. What other outcomes are you claiming could be causing herd immunity?:lmao "blaring outcome"
:lmao "causing herd immunity"

I called you out for a quote.

You failed, derp.

Eradication and herd immunity are two different things. Period.

[koriwhat]

then why the hell are you taking vitamins? You dont eat well?

I take vitamins because they're good for me and my body has a problem of consuming(not the word I was searching for but it'll work) the vitamins I get through eating.

I have allergies bro so there's a lot I can't eat and thus I miss out on certain vitamins I should be taking in. My diet mainly consists of salmon, rice, veggies, yogurts, and an occasional steak. Sweet tea will be my downfall! lol


You dont understand probability.
At all...

You tell me what you are MUCH more likely to get really sick from, being vaccinated or getting COVID?

Not sure because I won't be getting either. I am around others all the time and a year has passed, never sick once the whole year, eat at restaurants every damn day, have gone to events like the alamo bowl and more. I'm good or at least I have been good and here's hoping for another great year of health!

Why are you upset with me? Go get your vaccine shot(s) if that's what you'd like to do.


Of course you are.
Its shit in your veins? Right. S
Sorry, this clearly implies fear.
And Stupid fear.

Not trying to be rude but reading this reply hurt my head.

With that said, I am not scared of vaccines but don't care to participate either. I don't really get sick unless I eat wheat which I am allergic to. Other than that I am pretty damn healthy.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao "blaring outcome"
:lmao "causing herd immunity"

I called you out for a quote.

You failed, derp.

Eradication and herd immunity are two different things. Period.

Eradication is one outcome that causes herd immunity as defined by you. What are the others, then?

[koriwhat]

Eradication is one outcome that causes herd immunity as defined by you. What are the others, then?

Having discourse, or a 1-up contest, with Chump is pointless. The dude is a f'n loser!

[ChumpDumper]

Eradication is one outcome that causes herd immunity as defined by you. No. I said nothing of the sort.

:lmao an how does an outcome cause something in this case? Show me your flowchart.

How did you get this stupid, derp?

[ChumpDumper]

Having discourse, or a 1-up contest, with Chump is pointless. The dude is a f'n loser!:lol still posting about me.

[Ef-man]

You trained Derpcuckular very well to fetch, roll over and play dead ChumpDumper.

Nice.

:tu

[Winehole23]

CA COVID-19 mortality by occupation:

1352719270895992832

[Spurtacular]

No. I said nothing of the sort.

:lmao an how does an outcome cause something in this case? Show me your flowchart.

How did you get this stupid, derp?

You're blathering. You said heard immunity is achieved when the disease no longer spreads.

This means eradication whenever you have a communicative disease.

But if you have another means of it not spreading, then list it.

[ChumpDumper]

You said heard immunity is achieved when the disease no longer spreads.Yes.


This means eradication whenever you have a communicative disease.No.

You're too stupid to look up simple definitions yourself, derp.

Wallow in your ignorance.

Cry about your L.

[DMC]

I see the slap fight is in full swing again.
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When a death occurs shortly following vaccination, it is important to assess whether it was related to vaccination. In 2009–2010, a close temporal association between receipt of the pandemic influenza A(H1N1) vaccine (pH1N1) and 107 deaths (among 15 million doses of vaccine distributed in Japan) resulted in concern about a possible causal relationship, despite a lack of compelling epidemiologic or clinical evidence [1, 2]. Deaths following vaccination have had a negative impact on vaccination programs [3, 4], particularly in low- and middle-income countries implementing large-scale infant vaccination programs [5], even when investigations do not find evidence of a causal relationship.

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“Do I think people are misclassifying? No,” Jensen said. He said his concerns centered on what he deemed “less precise standards” for certifying deaths promulgated by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and how deaths classified as COVID-19 without corroborating positive test results could lead to an over-counting.

The CDC guidance says that officials should report deaths in which the patient tested positive for COVID-19 — or, if a test isn’t available, “if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.” It further indicates that if a “definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”
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So herein lies the double standard. Dying after vaccine administer needs to be vetted, but dying after COVID diagnosis can be considered dying from COVID, by hospitals seeking the extra cash. Both should require intense scrutiny. If we weren't using COVID as a political tool (like if we lived in WandaVision world), the counts would only be an indicator of cleared cases and less of an indicator of severity while the vaccine results should be highly magnified lest we cause unnecessary risk to patients.

Deaths of people who were vaccinated should be counted as a follow up action item but should be cleared if the death is unrelated to the vaccine. Same is true for COVID.

[pgardn]

I take vitamins because they're good for me and my body has a problem of consuming(not the word I was searching for but it'll work) the vitamins I get through eating.

I have allergies bro so there's a lot I can't eat and thus I miss out on certain vitamins I should be taking in. My diet mainly consists of salmon, rice, veggies, yogurts, and an occasional steak. Sweet tea will be my downfall! lol



Not sure because I won't be getting either. I am around others all the time and a year has passed, never sick once the whole year, eat at restaurants every damn day, have gone to events like the alamo bowl and more. I'm good or at least I have been good and here's hoping for another great year of health!

Why are you upset with me? Go get your vaccine shot(s) if that's what you'd like to do.



Not trying to be rude but reading this reply hurt my head.

With that said, I am not scared of vaccines but don't care to participate either. I don't really get sick unless I eat wheat which I am allergic to. Other than that I am pretty damn healthy.

K

You can stop telling other people that are “scared” of the virus.
probability says I just get a little sick and again probably come out fine.
But I would rather not get it, and worse than that, I don’t want to spread it to the older people I know.

if you know you have problems with vaccines then I totally get it, I don’t have a problem with the vaccination and I understand what it is made up of and I understand the hysteria that is unfounded about vaccinations. many people just don’t get the immune system, this is what I have come to understand.

[DMC]

K

You can stop telling other people that are “scared” of the virus.
probability says I just get a little sick and again probably come out fine.
But I would rather not get it, and worse than that, I don’t want to spread it to the older people I know.

if you know you have problems with vaccines then I totally get it, I don’t have a problem with the vaccination and I understand what it is made up of and I understand the hysteria that is unfounded about vaccinations. many people just don’t get the immune system, this is what I have come to understand.

You have total control over who you spread a virus to. Don't visit the elderly if you care that much, because regardless of your hand wringing here, you still have a small chance of having the virus and spreading to them. Stop acting like others should self regulate so you don't have to.

[pgardn]

I see the slap fight is in full swing again.
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When a death occurs shortly following vaccination, it is important to assess whether it was related to vaccination. In 2009–2010, a close temporal association between receipt of the pandemic influenza A(H1N1) vaccine (pH1N1) and 107 deaths (among 15 million doses of vaccine distributed in Japan) resulted in concern about a possible causal relationship, despite a lack of compelling epidemiologic or clinical evidence [1, 2]. Deaths following vaccination have had a negative impact on vaccination programs [3, 4], particularly in low- and middle-income countries implementing large-scale infant vaccination programs [5], even when investigations do not find evidence of a causal relationship.

vs

“Do I think people are misclassifying? No,” Jensen said. He said his concerns centered on what he deemed “less precise standards” for certifying deaths promulgated by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and how deaths classified as COVID-19 without corroborating positive test results could lead to an over-counting.

The CDC guidance says that officials should report deaths in which the patient tested positive for COVID-19 — or, if a test isn’t available, “if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.” It further indicates that if a “definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”
-----------------------

So herein lies the double standard. Dying after vaccine administer needs to be vetted, but dying after COVID diagnosis can be considered dying from COVID, by hospitals seeking the extra cash. Both should require intense scrutiny. If we weren't using COVID as a political tool (like if we lived in WandaVision world), the counts would only be an indicator of cleared cases and less of an indicator of severity while the vaccine results should be highly magnified lest we cause unnecessary risk to patients.

Deaths of people who were vaccinated should be counted as a follow up action item but should be cleared if the death is unrelated to the vaccine. Same is true for COVID.

also note people in rural areas and some poor densely populated areas have not and are not being counted. A vaccine is a very acute event and when things happen after an acute event it is more likely to be blamed than some thing that occurs over a longer time span that you don’t even get into the hospital or medical facility for.

[DMC]

also note people in rural areas and some poor densely populated areas have not and are not being counted. A vaccine is a very acute event and when things happen after an acute event it is more likely to be blamed than some thing that occurs over a longer time span that you don’t even get into the hospital or medical facility for.

What's your point?

[pgardn]

You have total control over who you spread a virus to. Don't visit the elderly if you care that much, because regardless of your hand wringing here, you still have a small chance of having the virus and spreading to them. Stop acting like others should self regulate so you don't have to.

Yes you do have control but not total control. you still visit your grandad because you are careful about who you see and where are you go. It also matters to the elderly to have visitors that they have had a Long relationship with. The vaccination also has risks of still being able to spread it so you were saying never see them again.

that’s like shutting down all the businesses we know can still stay open due to having mask rules distance rules etc.

this is again a misunderstanding of probability.
we know much more about how this virus is spread now and we won’t know even more in the future so make adjustments.

[pgardn]

What's your point?

your implication in the last sentence in which you left this out, would you like to add it?

[DMC]

Yes you do have control but not total control. you still visit your grandad because you are careful about who you see and where are you go.

You can't control who you visit?


It also matters to the elderly to have visitors that they have had a Long relationship with. The vaccination also has risks and still being able to spread it so you were saying never see them again.

It's in your control.


that’s like shutting down all the businesses we know can still stay open due to having mask rules distance rules etc.
Still in your control. You're playing an odds game and pretending you don't want to. The bottom line is that you make the decision that the odds are worth it, but don't want anyone else making that decision.

[DMC]

your implication in the last sentence in which you left this out, would you like to add it?

What point were you making? Can you summarize in a couple sentences?

I was saying use consistent standards. You're saying what exactly?

[pgardn]

What point were you making? Can you summarize in a couple sentences?

I was saying use consistent standards. You're saying what exactly?

You imply overcounting and not undercounting (like in rural red Western states)
And you realize this.

[pgardn]

You can't control who you visit?

It's in your control.

Still in your control. You're playing an odds game and pretending you don't want to. The bottom line is that you make the decision that the odds are worth it, but don't want anyone else making that decision.

Its within your control not to get into a car.
Of course Im playing an odds game, thats what I stated.
Odds are I dont give it to my grandad because im careful AND I have not given it to him yet for an entire year when the virus was present. I see him quite a bit. Hes good. It is a low risk worth taking because of his age and well being mentally. Many people are playing this game and winning. But the press has made it clear the red teams refusal to play by sound rules and what it costs.

[DMC]

You imply overcounting and not undercounting (like in rural red Western states)
And you realize this.

I implied neither but you're using bad science to assume inaccuracy in column A is ok because of an unknown accuracy in column B.

[DMC]

Its within your control not to get into a car.
Of course Im playing an odds game, thats what I stated.

So how is that not in your control?

[pgardn]

So how is that not in your control?

Nothing is entirely within my control as far as living and dying.

[pgardn]

I implied neither but you're using bad science to assume inaccuracy in column A is ok because of an unknown accuracy in column B.

Implications can be made by obvious omissions.
Which is exactly what you did and what I pointed out about rural western states that got hit hard.

[DMC]

Nothing is entirely within my control as far as living and dying.

I told you what is in your control. I didn't say "everything".

[pgardn]

I see the slap fight is in full swing again.
.

The hypocrisy is astounding.
The arbiter of the middle ground...

Everybody behave, the big boy has entered the room!

[DMC]

Implications can be made by obvious omissions.
Which is exactly what you did and what I pointed out about rural western states that got hit hard.

My summary from the two excerpts speaks for itself. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[DMC]

The hypocrisy is astounding.
The arbiter of the middle ground...

Everybody behave, the big boy has entered the room!

Your immaturity is showing.

[pgardn]

I told you what is in your control. I didn't say "everything".

And I told you my logic in risking seeing my grandfather.
What are you not getting? Risk v. living. Everyone does it.
Try it.

[DMC]

And I told you my logic in risking seeing my grandfather.
What are you not getting? Risk v. living. Everyone does it.
Try it.

So another's logic about their own life is their own business. Why do you pretend what KW does affects how you decide to risk the life of your grandparents? Why pass the burden to others?

[pgardn]

Your immaturity is showing.

Because I revealed your hypocrisy.
Yeah I could have left out the big boy, middle ground king.

K

[DMC]

Because I revealed your hypocrisy.
Yeah I could have left out the big boy, middle ground king.

K

:lol accusations now = revelation

some scientist you are

[pgardn]

So another's logic about their own life is their own business. Why do you pretend what KW does affects how you decide to risk the life of your grandparents? Why pass the burden to others?

That is absolutely the worst connection you could possibly make.
I am saying people make bad risk assessment with bad data.
You disagree.

[DMC]

That is absolutely the worst connection you could possibly make.
I am saying people make bad risk assessment with bad data.
You disagree.

What risk assessment do you make when visiting your elderly relatives? Perhaps a grit cooks faster on your stove than any other stove in the world. Are these magic grits?

[pgardn]

:lol accusations now = revelation

some scientist you are

Slap fight, slap fight...
Its is indeed a revelation to you.
You come in here and enter with the "now, now, boys, slap fighting"
And then you proceed to slap fight.

Amazing stuff.

[DMC]

Slap fight, slap fight...
Its is indeed a revelation to you.
You come in here and enter with the "now, now, boys, slap fighting"
And then you proceed to slap fight.

Amazing stuff.

Coming from someone who keeps responding but still hasn't admitted they have total control over who's life they risk.

[pgardn]

What risk assessment do you make when visiting your elderly relatives? Perhaps a grit cooks faster on your stove than any other stove in the world. Are these magic grits?

I already stated it.

Do you understand that the elderly will ask family members to stop by their house and physically enter?
And that it is good from a mental health perspective to see family members who follow the sound rules as they now stand?

[pgardn]

Coming from someone who keeps responding but still hasn't admitted they have total control over who's life they risk.

read again...

So mental health plays no role in longevity, got it professor.

[DMC]

I already stated it.

Do you understand that the elderly will ask family members to stop by their house and physically enter?
And that it is good from a mental health perspective to see family members who follow the sound rules as they now stand?

It's also good, from a mental health perspective, that business owners be able to remain solvent. This has nothing to do with who has control over your decisions.

[DMC]

read again...

So mental health plays no role in longevity, got it professor.

So mental health risks outweigh COVID risks... why are you bitching to KW then?

[pgardn]

So mental health risks outweigh COVID risks... why are you bitching to KW then?

You have made this assessment.
Great. Because I did not.

[pgardn]

It's also good, from a mental health perspective, that business owners be able to remain solvent. This has nothing to do with who has control over your decisions.

wtf....

You just wandered off into the woods.
Do you want to come back again.

MY decision is being careful with what we know now about Covid and having family members including myself staying careful and SEEING my grandfather is the way to go. I think together these make sense for my grandfather. They also give me multiple benefits.
You are just stumbling off making ridiculous statements.

[ChumpDumper]

Notice DMC will never say what decisions he has made concerning his exposure to others.

[pgardn]

Notice DMC will never say what decisions he has made concerning his exposure to others.

Its OK.
He makes multiple stupid errors attempting to slap fight with me about MY stances as he thinks Kori needs help.
DMC like to poke his head in and lets me poke him in the eyes for some reason.
Grumpa probably has sequestered himself from his grand kids.

[pgardn]

Also if you have the money its easy to get tested.
I have been tested as have my relatives. 3 times for me.

[koriwhat]

You can stop telling other people that are “scared” of the virus.

Nah I'm good; I'll continue to speak my mind instead of censoring myself when BigTech does a damn good job of censoring as it is and so many here on ST cry to Kori to censor others. Those scared of the virus can simply kick rocks and move along instead of reading what I have to say. :tu

[pgardn]

Nah I'm good; I'll continue to speak my mind instead of censoring myself when BigTech does a damn good job of censoring as it is and so many here on ST cry to Kori to censor others. Those scared of the virus can simply kick rocks and move along instead of reading what I have to say. :tu

K

Those who are scared of the vaccine can keep living in fear of a method that has probably been the biggest success story in Biology and health ever. (Maybe figuring out what was causing diseases was bigger: viruses, bacteria and even our own genes etc... Instead of swamp gas, evil people, and even water instead what’s in it...)

When antibiotics stop being effective and causing all sorts of side effects we will always have our own body’s immune system to possibly protect us. And we have a pretty good hold on how to aid the immune system in protecting us (vaccines). It will be a constant battle, but one we always have a chance in winning unlike running out of antibiotics for example (very foreign to our bodies) to control highly resistant bacteria that the antibiotics have actually selected for. We will never run out of the myriad of shapes of antibodies that can be made.

Ill stick with what we know as of today and will remain flexible about what changes tomorrow brings. Natural selection not only involves those who are genetically fit for a certain environment, but those who have a cultural system that can be passed on that understands a bit of logic and the current truths and facts can be helpful in certain health goals.

[Winehole23]

The pivot to budget austerity is a necropolitical bargain.

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[spurraider21]

NY nursing home virus deaths were undercounted, AG says (https://apnews.com/article/new-york-coronavirus-pandemic-nursing-homes-a6c214f4467976efdfca9ba75f8adaef)



New York may have undercounted COVID-19 deaths of nursing home residents by as much as 50%, the state’s attorney general said in a report released Thursday.



Part of the gap is explained by a decision by New York’s health agency to exclude from its count the number of nursing home patients who die after being transferred to hospitals. Hospital and nursing home officials say the state has ready access to that figure.

[ChumpDumper]

There will be all manner of fuckery with the death numbers exposed in the coming years. It will never make sense and never be justified.

[Winehole23]

There will be all manner of fuckery with the death numbers exposed in the coming years. It will never make sense and never be justified.Had Trump cared as much about preventing the tranmission of COVID-19 as suppressing the tally of verified cases, he might still be president.

[baseline bum]

Had Trump cared as much about preventing the tranmission of COVID-19 as suppressing the tally of verified cases, he might still be president.

If he even pretended to care he'd be president.

[Winehole23]

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[spurraider21]

first when people claimed the numbers were inflated, they were pointed to the excess death figures, which more or less perfectly fit the reported death figures from covid. then the speculation was that the excess death numbers were manipulated or made to TO fit the covid numbers. the real test was going to be comparing total deaths in 2019 to 2020.

well, CDC has just over 3.31 million deaths from all causes in 2020 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm), whereas 2.85 million people died in 2019 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db395.htm#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20a%20total%20of,at %20birth%20increased%200.1%20year.)

difference of 460,000

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtOw2lBVcAEwY4V?format=jpg&name=large

[RD2191]

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210201/category-5-covid-hurricane-approaches-expert-says

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210201/category-5-covid-hurricane-approaches-expert-says

Sounds like Osterholm doesn't think Biden will stomp out the virus

[ducks]

A person dies approximately every 11.14 seconds

Number of deaths per year: 2,830,688

Number of deaths per day: 7,755

Number of deaths per hour: 323

https://www.indexmundi.com/clocks/indicator/deaths/united-states

So is covid deaths causing more deaths or not ?

[ElNono]

https://www.indexmundi.com/clocks/indicator/deaths/united-states

So is covid deaths causing more deaths or not ?

First note in your link:

Note: Numbers on this page do not include deaths due to COVID-19. Our estimates are based on deaths reported before the pandemic started. Check our coronavirus section for information about daily and total deaths caused by the virus.

[DarrinS]

Very nice infographic posted by Winehole.

[hater]

Sounds like Osterholm doesn't think Biden will stomp out the virus

Biden is gonna match or surpass Trumps kill count

I called it weeks ago :tu

Biden virus will make Trump virus look like a simple cough

[SnakeBoy]

Biden is gonna match or surpass Trumps kill count

I called it weeks ago :tu

Biden virus will make Trump virus look like a simple cough

Still don't think he'll match Trump but you may be right. Only two weeks in and Biden has murdered 50,000 people.

[DMC]

Count no longer important?

[DarrinS]

Cases dropping fast. Its a miracle

[spurraider21]

Count no longer important?
says who?

[SnakeBoy]

I feel bad for the fifty thousand (and counting) murdered by Biden. He promised them he knew how to shut down the virus.

Biden lied people died

[hater]

I feel bad for the fifty thousand (and counting) murdered by Biden. He promised them he knew how to shut down the virus.

Biden lied people died

at last Fauci tried to save some by telling them to double mask tbqh

[hater]

I feel bad for the fifty thousand (and counting) murdered by Biden. He promised them he knew how to shut down the virus.

Biden lied people died

at last Fauci tried to save some by telling them to double mask tbqh

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ChitownMike312/status/1357356055479676931?s=20

Joe is already up to 16 Sept 11s tbqh

[ElNono]

I feel bad for the fifty thousand (and counting) murdered by Biden. He promised them he knew how to shut down the virus.

Biden lied people died

Joe has a plan (tm)

[DarrinS]

I feel bad for the fifty thousand (and counting) murdered by Biden. He promised them he knew how to shut down the virus.

Biden lied people died


How many 9/11's is that? I noticed that people stopped making these retarded comparisons recently. :lol

[ElNono]

How many 9/11's is that? I noticed that people stopped making these retarded comparisons recently. :lol

If you read the OP, you'll know why

[DarrinS]

If you read the OP, you'll know why

I read it. And?

[ElNono]

I read it. And?

'seppe is a Trumptard that started this thread thinking Corona deaths were not going to surpass the numbers he cited.

He was wrong, but the chickenshit fled instead of owning it up.

[DMC]

says who?

You, obviously, since you aren't posting it on the regular like you were.

[spurraider21]

You, obviously, since you aren't posting it on the regular like you were.
i had a post here 3 days earlier. there had been longer lapses than that in the past, considering we have multiple active COVID threads at a time. keep flailing.

[DMC]

i had a post here 3 days earlier. there had been longer lapses than that in the past, considering we have multiple active COVID threads at a time. keep flailing.

Sure :tu

[spurraider21]

while we to appear to be past the most recent peak, far from out of the woods. still having more than a 9/11 dead per day

daily new cases are trending hard in the right direction, though thats likely because the peak was caused by the holidays

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

1360419900041416704

It's a miracle

[spurraider21]

It's a miracle
~170 million vaccine shots administered so far probably helps

[Winehole23]

It's a miracleNot my take, is that yours?

[Ef-man]

Only 473K deaths so far, truly a miracle.

[TimDunkem]

Only 100k cases per day! I bet the virus just disappears in a few weeks.

[Ef-man]

Only 100k cases per day! I bet the virus just disappears in a few weeks.

Praise be to the obese baby Jesus with the orange painted tan living in Mar - a - Lago for this miracle.

[ChumpDumper]

It's a miracleBiden president not Trump.

Your guy was a fucking disaster and you're a disgrace for sucking him off.

[ElNono]

Lancet Study Finds 40% of US COVID-19 Deaths Could Have Been Avoided

The British medical journal the Lancet, on Wednesday, published a damning assessment (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32545-9/fulltext) of Donald Trump's presidency and its impact on Americans' health, concluding that 40 percent of the nearly 500,000 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. over the past year were avoidable (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/lancet-study-40-percent-u-s-covid-19-coronavirus-deaths-avoidable-unnecessary.html). The journal came to the conclusion by comparing the U.S. health outcomes on the coronavirus -- the country leads the world in COVID deaths and confirmed cases with more than 27 million -- with the weighted average of other G-7 nations. So it's not a wildly abstract conclusion to draw: the U.S. could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives if it had just performed similarly to its economic peers.

The report assailed Trump for his response to the pandemic, but emphasized that the disastrous response to the virus's spread was the result of years of destructive public policy decisions on health that extended well beyond the Trump years. From the Lancet: "Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the U.S. populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation. His refusal to develop a national strategy worsened shortages of personal protective equipment and diagnostic tests. President Trump politicized mask-wearing and school reopenings and convened indoor events attended by thousands, where masks were discouraged and physical distancing was impossible."

[DMC]

Praise be to the obese baby Jesus with the orange painted tan living in Mar - a - Lago for this miracle.

You're a sweaty poster, trying way too hard.

[DMC]

Lancet Study Finds 40% of US COVID-19 Deaths Could Have Been Avoided

The British medical journal the Lancet, on Wednesday, published a damning assessment (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32545-9/fulltext) of Donald Trump's presidency and its impact on Americans' health, concluding that 40 percent of the nearly 500,000 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. over the past year were avoidable (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/lancet-study-40-percent-u-s-covid-19-coronavirus-deaths-avoidable-unnecessary.html). The journal came to the conclusion by comparing the U.S. health outcomes on the coronavirus -- the country leads the world in COVID deaths and confirmed cases with more than 27 million -- with the weighted average of other G-7 nations. So it's not a wildly abstract conclusion to draw: the U.S. could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives if it had just performed similarly to its economic peers.

The report assailed Trump for his response to the pandemic, but emphasized that the disastrous response to the virus's spread was the result of years of destructive public policy decisions on health that extended well beyond the Trump years. From the Lancet: "Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the U.S. populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation. His refusal to develop a national strategy worsened shortages of personal protective equipment and diagnostic tests. President Trump politicized mask-wearing and school reopenings and convened indoor events attended by thousands, where masks were discouraged and physical distancing was impossible."

:lol "years of destructive policy that extended well beyond the Trump years"

then....

Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump...

Nary a mention of any "well beyond" folks

Media still capitalizing on the never Trumper energy.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

DMC getting sweaty trying too hard defending his disaster of a president.

[DMC]

^Still following me around stealing my shit :lol

[ChumpDumper]

^Still reading all my shit after claiming to ignore me :lol

Watch you reply again.

All sweaty and worked up for your Trump.:lol

[Ef-man]

You're a sweaty poster, trying way too hard.

Offended because you thought obese baby Jesus was a reference to you?!

How easily you get hurt.

:lmao. :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

I feel bad for the fifty thousand (and counting) murdered by Biden. He promised them he knew how to shut down the virus.

Biden lied people died

Damn 75k now. Biden racking up the bodies fast.


Biden lied people died

[ElNono]

:lol "years of destructive policy that extended well beyond the Trump years"

then....

Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump...

Nary a mention of any "well beyond" folks

Media still capitalizing on the never Trumper energy.

:lol

So you rather cherry pick than take the whole.... ok

[DMC]

Offended because you thought obese baby Jesus was a reference to you?!

How easily you get hurt.

:lmao. :lmao

Still trying. Just breathe.

[DMC]

So you rather cherry pick than take the whole.... ok
Seems like the article is doing all the cherry picking.

[Ef-man]

Still trying. Just breathe.

Keep sniffing my ass, fat man, the smell is certainly better than what comes out of your mouth.

Oh, look, your wife, kids, and grandkids are still neglected. Lucky them, how I envy them!

:tu

[DMC]

Keep sniffing my ass, fat man, the smell is certainly better than what comes out of your mouth.

Oh, look, your wife, kids, and grandkids are still neglected. Lucky them, how I envy them!

:tu

Melting down now... that was easy. :lol

[Ef-man]

Melting down now... that was easy. :lol

Keep smelling my ass, big boy. :lmao

[ElNono]

Seems like the article is doing all the cherry picking.

How so? You pointed out yourself they covered more than just the Trump admin. Now, makes sense the Trump admin bears the brunt of the blame considering the virus showed up right smack in the middle of their one term.

[Winehole23]

Genetic recombination is rare. Large caseloads and rampant transmisssion make it more likely. Failure to keep cases down and lack of urgency to protect people gives the advantage to the virus, which mutates and adapts over billions of generations within a human lifetime.

Immune evasion is a thing, I hope we don’t see it with COVID before vaccination gets us to herd immunity.


Recombination commonly occurs in coronaviruses (https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24732993-900-could-the-coronavirus-merge-with-another-virus-to-create-a-new-threat/) because the enzyme that replicates their genome is prone to slipping off the RNA strand it is copying and then rejoining where it left off. If a host cell contains two different coronavirus genomes, the enzyme can repeatedly jump from one to the other, combining different elements of each genome to create a hybrid virus.


The recent emergence of multiple variants of the new coronavirus may have created the raw material for recombination because people can be infected with two different variants at once.


“We may be getting to the point when this is happening at appreciable rates,” says Sergei Pond (https://observablehq.com/@spond/linkage-disequilibirum-in-sars-cov-2) at Temple University in Pennsylvania, who keeps an eye out for recombinants by comparing thousands of genome sequences uploaded to databases. He says there is still no evidence of widespread recombination, but that “coronaviruses all recombine, so it’s a question of when, not if”.


The implications of the finding aren’t yet clear because very little is known about the recombinant’s biology. However, it does carry a mutation from B.1.1.7, called Δ69/70, which makes the UK virus more transmissible, and another from B.1.429, called L452R, which can confer resistance to antibodies.

“This kind of event could allow the virus to have coupled a more infectious virus with a more resistant virus,” Korber said at the New York meeting. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2268014-exclusive-two-variants-have-merged-into-heavily-mutated-coronavirus/#ixzz6mjYsmGna

[Winehole23]

All key metrics here, all trending down. Deaths are now around 1,000/day nationally. The biggest suspense beside getting vaccinated is the spread of new variants.

https://covidtracking.com/data/charts

[Winehole23]

In Florida, the B 1.1.7 variant, which has resulted in new EU lockdowns, is predicted to become the dominant one in Florida sometime next month.

[hater]

Biden virus reaching 100k bodybags soon :wow

[DMC]

How so? You pointed out yourself they covered more than just the Trump admin. Now, makes sense the Trump admin bears the brunt of the blame considering the virus showed up right smack in the middle of their one term.

No, they said it extends well past the Trump admin then returned to Trump.

[pgardn]

Damn 75k now. Biden racking up the bodies fast.


Biden lied people died

No need for a mask. Flaunt the no wear banner of the strong.
Its just the sniffles...

"I got and Im fine"

things of the past that have no bearing on events taking place now.
Got it.

[Winehole23]

Cuomo has started to smear his critics in the press; some of them have been threatened personally.

tl;dr

Cuomo should be impeached.


Cuomo’s corporate immunity provision was quickly copied and pasted into other states’ laws and into Senate Republican legislation, in near word-for-word fashion. The liability shield spread from New York to other states, even as New York Assemblyman Ron Kim released a report showing that states with liability shields were reporting higher nursing-home death rates during the pandemic.

[DMC]

I ran the Cuomo flag up the pole. You said he dithered. Pack sand.

[Winehole23]

I ran the Cuomo flag up the pole. You said he dithered. Pack sand.lol calling dibs, are you sure about that?

[Winehole23]

Cuomo’s top aide, Melissa DeRosa, admitted that Cuomo’s administration not only withheld information about nursing home deaths, but did so in order to preemptively avoid political and legal consequences.

“We were in a position where we weren’t sure if what we were going to give to the Department of Justice, or what we give to (state legislators), and what we start saying, was going to be used against us,” Cuomo’s top aide Melissa DeRosa told New York legislators last week.

DeRosa’s father, brother, and sister are employed at one of the lobbying firms that represents GNYHA, the health care industry group that funneled millions to Cuomo’s political machine and spearheaded the corporate immunity law.

[SnakeBoy]

Genetic recombination is rare. Large caseloads and rampant transmisssion make it more likely. Failure to keep cases down and lack of urgency to protect people gives the advantage to the virus, which mutates and adapts over billions of generations within a human lifetime.

Immune evasion is a thing, I hope we don’t see it with COVID before vaccination gets us to herd immunity.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2268014-exclusive-two-variants-have-merged-into-heavily-mutated-coronavirus/#ixzz6mjYsmGna

We will see immune escape within 1-2 years. The variants are not happening because of recombination. This is the expected evolution of this virus. All of these mutations were seen in the lab in March 2019 using a pseudotype virus. Discussed thoroughly here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZajCMGUdY&t=5s

The mutations are occurring independently of each other. All of the mutations are found in a new strain present globally

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I'm not concerned about variants. The vaccine or previous infection should provide some efficacy against the variants and the vaccine can be tweaked.

The genetic recombination that concerns me is SARS-CoV-2 recombining with another betacoronavirus resulting in a completely novel virus, SARS-CoV-3. Two of our common cold viruses are betacoronaviruses and there are many betacoronaviruses endemic to other species that have been shown to be suitable animal reservoirs for SAR-CoV-2.

[DMC]

lol calling dibs, are you sure about that?
I've mentioned them other times as blameworthy.

Cuomo and DeBlasio dithered. NYers died. Same is true of Trump, but for the whole country.

Yeah I am sure about that :lol

[DarrinS]

What has been described as the "wild type" is actually a mutation.

[Winehole23]

Yeah I am sure about that :lolDoesn’t tally with my recollection, but I don’t read all your posts, nor do I guess you read all mine. That said, you can keep the uncorroborated glory of posting first about Cuomo/COVID all for yourself, it’s worthless. :tu

[DMC]

Doesn’t tally with my recollection, but I don’t read all your posts, nor do I guess you read all mine. That said, you can keep the uncorroborated glory of posting first about Cuomo/COVID all for yourself, it’s worthless. :tu

Doesn't need to, since I quoted you :lol

I wasn't stealing your "1st". I was saying you were gentle with him. You wouldn't have been so gentle if he was a republican with those numbers and the underlying cover-up, his brother a MSM ally.

[Winehole23]

Doesn't need to, since I quoted you :lol

I wasn't stealing your "1st". I was saying you were gentle with him. You wouldn't have been so gentle if he was a republican with those numbers and the underlying cover-up, his brother a MSM ally.Speculative, and wrong.That’s one post out of a dozen or so I’ve made in this forum about Cuomo’s deadly misrule. I’ve used much stronger language than that to describe him, sorry you weren’t there to appreciate it..

[Thread]

Barrel-a-Shit-Biden now has his first 100k of dead Americans on his side of the ledger of the dead in only 30 days. I figure by the end of his 8 year term he'll have close to the old man's 400k, God willing and that creek over by the Picketwire don't rise.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Where's Splits? Probably trying to figure out how to peel and apply that BLM decal to hardwood without getting bubbles in it.

Crawl, motherfucker, CRAWL!!!

[ChumpDumper]

lol you lost

[ElNono]

lmao chickeshit senior makes an appearance

[ElNono]

Hey ElNono

You're still trolling in my thread.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201736&page=77&p=10436699&viewfull=1#post10436699

:tu

[ElNono]

ok

[Winehole23]

The viewers see what you're doing and your reputation suffers.projection, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Hope they figure out what the deal with India and SE Asia is.

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[DMC]

Hope they figure out what the deal with India and SE Asia is.

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Surely not faulty reporting schemes.

[Winehole23]

Surely not faulty reporting schemes.Sure, just make up something soothing.

[DMC]

Sure, just make up something soothing.

Or just post someone else doing so.

[baseline bum]

Barrel-a-Shit-Biden now has his first 100k of dead Americans on his side of the ledger of the dead in only 30 days. I figure by the end of his 8 year term he'll have close to the old man's 400k, God willing and that creek over by the Picketwire don't rise.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Where's Splits? Probably trying to figure out how to peel and apply that BLM decal to hardwood without getting bubbles in it.

Crawl, motherfucker, CRAWL!!!

LOL this faggot can dish it but can't take it

[Trainwreck2100]

Barrel-a-Shit-Biden now has his first 100k of dead Americans on his side of the ledger of the dead in only 30 days. I figure by the end of his 8 year term he'll have close to the old man's 400k, God willing and that creek over by the Picketwire don't rise.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Where's Splits? Probably trying to figure out how to peel and apply that BLM decal to hardwood without getting bubbles in it.

Crawl, motherfucker, CRAWL!!!

Looks like covid didnt bust a cap in yo ass after all. You were just hiding

[hater]

Barrel-a-Shit-Biden now has his first 100k of dead Americans on his side of the ledger of the dead in only 30 days. I figure by the end of his 8 year term he'll have close to the old man's 400k, God willing and that creek over by the Picketwire don't rise.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Where's Splits? Probably trying to figure out how to peel and apply that BLM decal to hardwood without getting bubbles in it.

Crawl, motherfucker, CRAWL!!!

Thats 2 whole Vietnams in a month by the Biden Virus, ma nig

[DarrinS]

Hope they figure out what the deal with India and SE Asia is.

1361847144378941442


There was a mass distribution of Ivermectin in India in late August.

[Winehole23]

There was a mass distribution of Ivermectin in India in late August.That might be one factor, it's mentioned in the thread. Median age in India is like 27 or or so, not as much obesity and diabetes there either.

Also, seroprevalence the is reported to be ~50%, possibly from previous exposure to coronaviruses.

These are all guesses...

[Winehole23]

Bloomberg basically saying NY's COVID reporting is fake.

Damn liberal MSM shills.


in New York the state health department doesn’t do vital statistics. As is the case in about half the states, New York has decentralized public-health governance, meaning that the county and New York City health departments are responsible for figuring out how many people actually died of Covid-19 (and of everything else) and reporting that to the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics. But instead of incorporating their more-complete tallies into its totals, the state just keeps putting out its own obviously wrong numbers. This is weird, but not entirely unique. There are three other states (Nebraska, Kentucky and Missouri), where the state-reported death toll is about as low relative to the CDC’s as New York’s, and one (Oklahoma) where it’s even lower….. Seen in conjunction with the state’s habit of reporting obviously wrong overall Covid-19 death totals, though, a pattern begins to emerge.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-02-19/cuomo-s-covid-19-death-count-problem-goes-beyond-nursing-homes

[Winehole23]

liberal media lackeys continue to blow Andrew Cuomo

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[Winehole23]

The New Yorker gives Cuomo the rusty trombone.

When will the liberal media start holding Democrats accountable?

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[hater]

liberal media lackeys continue to blow Andrew Cuomo

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Reminds me of the Shillary emailgate

[Thread]

108k dead Americans on illegitimate & derelict President Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.

tee, hee.

[ElNono]

108k dead Americans on illegitimate & derelict President Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.

tee, hee.

He's your legitimate president, Dale...

:::::let us proceed.

[Thread]

He's your legitimate president, Dale...

:::::let us proceed.

What'd you want him to do:::"Oh, me, oh, my, I feel so bad for everybody, let's all get on our respective hands and knees and crawl around, throw up our hands and beg. Or, do we wait for Biden, who has "a plan?"

He told you over a year ago to herd it out, just like a 100 years ago. What are we doing a year later? Herding it out, just like they did a 100 years ago.

Still and all, El, that old man's finest moment? Comin' out that morning after, squaring Acosta in his sights and this...-both sides-

- "Hey, Ray, you never knocked me down. You never knocked me down, Ray."

- "LaMotta" - "Raging Bull"

2nd finest? Him & Mel, shoulder-to-shoulder from the day Madonna threatened to blow up the White House the day him and Mel moved into it till the day they left for Florida. You thought she was gonna divorce him. Uh, uh. Quite the contrast to Clinton bending that chubby Polish girl over and polishing his knob in the Oval while Clinton and their buck-tooth daughter listened above.

3rd finest? Him making Hillary place her top rung on that curb..."Now, say goodnight."

I'm back and the first motherfucker that tries to make me leave will regret it the longest day he, or, she lives.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

Reminds me of the Shillary emailgate

Unlike the Republicans that get into the shit, Cuomo knows how to handle it. "I ain't goin' nowherePERIOD" That's how that Virginia politician who did the black face handled it. "I ain't leavin'PERIOD" What'd that idiot up in Minnesota do? Franken quit, and now lives in regret. What the fuck was he thinking? I hated him, but I still was aghast that he quit. Those plum jobs are few and far between. Maybe one a lifetime and that's it. He blew his.

Repubs always quit as well and self flagellate themselves ever more.

The old man shoulda refused to leave on the 20th of last month. Load up on a dozen of half-rotten hard boiled eggs and a small bag of stale Hershey Kisses, when they bust down the door, bear down on your bowels and put your fingers in your throat.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump President.
Not Clinton.Biden President.
Not Trump.

[Thread]

110k dead Americans on Biden's side of the COVID-19 Death Ledger.
L

[ChumpDumper]

110k dead Americans on Biden's side of the COVID-19 Death Ledger.
L
How many on Trump's?

You didn't update for months.

[Thread]

How many on Trump's?

You didn't update for months.

That's your look out, fart face.

[ChumpDumper]

That's your look out, fart face.Actually no, you started this thread.

Own it.

[Thread]

Actually no, you started this thread.

Own it.

& with jacks and timbers I've started back down. 110k for Biden's side of the COVID-19 Death Ledger. Will Biden get to 400k + the one? He's got 8 years to do it, provided he don't kick that bucket.

[ChumpDumper]

& with jacks and timbers I've started back down. 110k for Biden's side of the COVID-19 Death Ledger. Will Biden get to 400k + the one? He's got 8 years to do it, provided he don't kick that bucket.You'll have to post Trump's total if you want to compare them.

[ElNono]

What'd you want him to do:::"Oh, me, oh, my, I feel so bad for everybody, let's all get on our respective hands and knees and crawl around, throw up our hands and beg. Or, do we wait for Biden, who has "a plan?"

He told you over a year ago to herd it out, just like a 100 years ago. What are we doing a year later? Herding it out, just like they did a 100 years ago.

Still and all, El, that old man's finest moment? Comin' out that morning after, squaring Acosta in his sights and this...-both sides-

- "Hey, Ray, you never knocked me down. You never knocked me down, Ray."

- "LaMotta" - "Raging Bull"

2nd finest? Him & Mel, shoulder-to-shoulder from the day Madonna threatened to blow up the White House the day him and Mel moved into it till the day they left for Florida. You thought she was gonna divorce him. Uh, uh. Quite the contrast to Clinton bending that chubby Polish girl over and polishing his knob in the Oval while Clinton and their buck-tooth daughter listened above.

3rd finest? Him making Hillary place her top rung on that curb..."Now, say goodnight."

I'm back and the first motherfucker that tries to make me leave will regret it the longest day he, or, she lives.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Let us proceed...

Boiled down:::::

Biden: 1
Trump: 0

teehee

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

Testing down too, so...

[Winehole23]

Testing down too, so...So...