The Count of Corona...

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/123594674_3455999554446330_2983836048867107815_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=uLe2EgbVzcYAX_jgJik&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=3eea03b21d2047b24142d80995e3ac53&oe=5FCF05C8

[Winehole23]

El Paso County faces a hostile mayor and a hostile State of Texas.

1325683834705354754

[Brazil]

Here we are on page 3 lol... Lives not important now.

Trump is still president bro.. you gonna input the lifes lost since yesterday to Biden ? really ? smh

[baseline bum]

El Paso County faces a hostile mayor and a hostile State of Texas.

1325683834705354754

Thought I read the state of Texas wasn't contesting the judge's order.

[Winehole23]

Thought I read the state of Texas wasn't contesting the judge's order.This article from yesterday says the Texas appeal is before 8CA, did it already rule?

https://kfoxtv.com/news/coronavirus/el-paso-moves-to-10-mobile-morgues-for-covid-19-deaths-as-judge-wants-to-extend-shutdown

[ChumpDumper]

Two musician friends got it after a house party.



So far.And another.

All the Trump supporters utilizing their Facebook medical degrees to full effect. Karrinesque.

[Winehole23]

And another.

All the Trump supporters utilizing their Facebook medical degrees to full effect. Karrinesque.The ferocity of complacent self indulgence, once slightly inconvenienced, is not to be taken lightly.

[DMC]

Dr Ben Carson tested positive.

[Winehole23]

Dr Ben Carson tested positive.Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

[DMC]

Trump is still president bro.. you gonna input the lifes lost since yesterday to Biden ? really ? smh

no. I predict some on the left will cease caring so much after January 2021.

[DMC]

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

I'm sure that he'll be fine.

[DMC]

People partying in Austin, TX like it ain't nothing. It's hard to mask up when you're eating and drinking.

keeping it weird

[Winehole23]

keeping it weirdOh, I don't know.

Is weekday, all afternoon brunching and people watching really so weird?

I'm told the weekends are brisk in and around downtown Austin, for myself I mostly bunker down.

[DMC]

I would not say it's brisk. I think they're more like 40% of what they were last year. Maybe less. I'm there almost every day and it's nothing to get lunch and drive around unfettered.

[ChumpDumper]

no. I predict some on the left will cease caring so much after January 2021.You're on The Left™ now.

[ChumpDumper]

The ferocity of complacent self indulgence, once slightly inconvenienced, is not to be taken lightly.Surprised it hasn't happened to them sooner. They've been doing this shit since April.

[Brazil]

no. I predict some on the left will cease caring so much after January 2021.

After January new cases new deaths will be on Trump back and that for a while. What Trump failed to do will be felt for months after Joe take over.

[FrostKing]

Operation Trump Speed

American Hero

[boutons_deux]

After January new cases new deaths will be on Trump back and that for a while. What Trump failed to do will be felt for months after Joe take over.

yep, The Trash-Made Pandemic has a long tail, esp when 71M Trash voters follow Trash's MISguidance, horrible example and refuse to mask + distance, and still US doesn't do enough testing and tracing so infected people spread infection.

And if the pandemic doesn't get under control the economy stays fucked.

There could be 1000s of commercial MBS going bad in 2021, like residental MBS went toxic in 2009.

Still 10M jobs lost out of the 22M lost last spring.

Like Repugs handed to Obama in 2009, Repugs handing Biden a once-in-100-year historic shitstorm

[Winehole23]

I would not say it's brisk. I think they're more like 40% of what they were last year. Maybe less. I'm there almost every day and it's nothing to get lunch and drive around unfettered.Your casual eyeball trumps my direct experience, I'm sure. I guess it depends who you're talking about.

[Trainwreck2100]

Operation Trump Speed

American Hero

:lol Pfizer got their money from Germany, they said"fuck warp speed"

[tholdren]

yep, The Trash-Made Pandemic has a long tail, esp when 71M Trash voters follow Trash's MISguidance, horrible example and refuse to mask + distance, and still US doesn't do enough testing and tracing so infected people spread infection.

And if the pandemic doesn't get under control the economy stays fucked.

There could be 1000s of commercial MBS going bad in 2021, like residental MBS went toxic in 2009.

Still 10M jobs lost out of the 22M lost last spring.

Like Repugs handed to Obama in 2009, Repugs handing Biden a once-in-100-year historic shitstorm

Ifr less than flu

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

^ gossip

Elwrongwrong so scared of covid he doesn't understand facts
Lolololooooopl

Ellowlow

[ElNono]

Elwrongwrong so scared of covid he doesn't understand facts
Lolololooooopl

Ellowlow

meltdown

[tholdren]

Elwrongwrong so scared of covid he doesn't understand facts
Lolololooooopl

Ellowlow
Got him as hooked as ChumpDumper 7 threads deep you hate to see it. I'm in Brazil today. No mask

[ElNono]

Update (8 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 243,768+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 81.24+
Trump's Corona Plague dead on 11/8: 512 (162 Benghazis & 2 Obamabola outbreak)
Trump's Corona Plague dead per million U.S. rank: 10th highest death rate in the world
U.S. Presidents infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump himself)
U.S. First Ladies infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump's 3rd wife)
U.S. Senators infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 4 (4 Republicans, 0 Democrats)*
White House Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
Capitol Hill Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
White House Officials Gravely Ill: 1
Bexar County Dead: 1,427
South Korea dead: 480
Foldren folds: 4.5+k
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

[Kurgan]

Pfizer vaccine having 90% efficacy is a good sign. April is the earliest when it can be distributed but even that is wishful thinking I think. Winter months are going to be brutal with the flu+covid running rampant.

[clambake]

& if so:::

I'll stand the gaffe.

I never hide my shit.

It's my religion.
Lol

[baseline bum]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[spurraider21]

over 1300 reported deaths today. most in a single day since August 18. over 135k new cases, most in a single day ever

only going to get uglier going into the winter

[Ghazi]

Coronavirus is a hoax

[spurraider21]

Coronavirus is a hoax
your religion is a hoax

[tholdren]

over 1300 reported deaths today. most in a single day since August 18. over 135k new cases, most in a single day ever

only going to get uglier going into the winter

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

[ElNono]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
turvy

[tholdren]

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

Why are the Chumpettes afraid of the actual science and math?

[Ghazi]

Coronavirus is a hoax

We're all still here aren't we?

Free your mind

We are all made of stardust, none of us are dead yet

[pgardn]

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

Tell us why.

[spurraider21]

Coronavirus is a hoax

We're all still here aren't we?

Free your mind

We are all made of stardust, none of us are dead yet
whats the sample size of the spurstalk political forum? 25 people?

[tholdren]

Tell us why.

Pgardn fold

[tholdren]

whats the sample size of the spurstalk political forum? 25 people?

Cdc already released their ifr with inflated numbers. Its less than flu for almost all age groups.

[spurraider21]

Cdc already released their ifr with inflated numbers. Its less than flu for almost all age groups.
250k dead

[pgardn]

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?


Tell us why.


Pgardn fold

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.

[tholdren]

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.

I already have. For months. Usa runs tests at such a high sensitivity, 40-45, as opposed to relevant test cycles in mid 20s

My question is why, when its not best practice and other countries do not do this

[tholdren]

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.
The PCR test does not detect a live virus. For a virus to infect an individual or be transmitted to another person, it must be capable of replication. The PCR does not measure the ability of the material detected to make additional copies of itself. It is appropriate to use the word material because the PCR test looks for pieces of the virus’s RNA. It does not require a complete RNA strand to return a positive result

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Topsy

[tholdren]

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.


COLUMNS

About All Those Positive COVID 'Cases' Fauci Keeps Freaking Out Over...

BY STACEY LENNOX OCT 05, 2020 2:25 PM ET

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Dr. Anthony Fauci was on CNN Monday morning, lamenting the number of daily positive tests for COVID-19. Of course, these are always called “cases,” which makes people with a medical background want to tear their hair out for several reasons. However, it is crucial to the preferred narrative that you think there are 40,000 new sick people every day. People who could need the type of sophisticated care being given to President Trump at Walter Reed Medical Center.

This idea is ridiculous, misleading, and alarmist for many reasons. First, citing “cases” of illness suggests individuals have symptoms of it. In a significant number of people who are testing positive for COVID-19, this is simply not the case. People who are not and won’t get ill receive a positive test result because of the way the most common type of test used to detect the virus works.

The PCR test does not detect a live virus. For a virus to infect an individual or be transmitted to another person, it must be capable of replication. The PCR does not measure the ability of the material detected to make additional copies of itself. It is appropriate to use the word material because the PCR test looks for pieces of the virus’s RNA. It does not require a complete RNA strand to return a positive result.

6 Questions an Honest, Intelligent Reporter Would Ask Dr. Fauci About COVID-19

The CDC knows this, and so does the FDA. This knowledge is why the CDC no longer suggests retesting recovered patients. The agency acknowledges that a patient will shed virus particles incapable of being transmitted and causing infection for up to 90 days. When you add the research about T-cell immunity to this mix, it is possible to understand why there are so many asymptomatic “cases.”

T cells are immune cells that hang out in the lymph system, and some have a form of “memory.” They recognize parts of viral and bacterial invaders and are activated to eliminate them from the body by a complex immune response. Research demonstrates enough similarity between COVID-19 and other coronaviruses to suggest this reaction takes place in somewhere between 40% and 60% of the population.

As Dr. Beda M. Stadler, a Swiss biologist, emeritus professor, and former director of the Institute of Immunology at the University of Bern, noted that the same virus particles found in a recovered patient will be found in someone with an effective immune response to COVID-19 (emphasis mine):

So if we do a PCR corona test on an immune person, it is not a virus that is detected, but a small shattered part of the viral genome. The test comes back positive for as long as there are tiny shattered parts of the virus left. Correct: Even if the infectious viruses are long dead, a corona test can come back positive, because the PCR method multiplies even a tiny fraction of the viral genetic material enough [to be detected].

Reporting at The New York Times echoed this observation. According to a study done on positive samples in New York, Massachusetts, and Nevada, 90% of tests had very little viral debris in the sample, indicating that infection and transmission are unlikely:

In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.

In the article, Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, explained the problem:

“We’ve been using one type of data for everything, and that is just plus or minus — that’s all,” Dr. Mina said. “We’re using that for clinical diagnostics, for public health, for policy decision-making.”

The New York Times Does Accidental Journalism on COVID-19 Testing

The PCR test looks for the virus by amplifying the RNA it detects. Every amplification is called a cycle. The more cycles the test uses, the higher likelihood of finding pieces of the virus’s RNA. In the United States, most labs go through 40 cycles, according to the Times. Experts interviewed said this number of cycles is unnecessarily high:

Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less. Those changes would mean the amount of genetic material in a patient’s sample would have to be 100-fold to 1,000-fold that of the current standard for the test to return a positive result — at least, one worth acting on

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
Turvey

[tholdren]

Why are the Chumpettes afraid of the actual science and math?

TimDunkem low iq

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
Topsy

[tholdren]

Topsy

Derptime

[TimDunkem]

^Didn't read lol

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
Turvy

[ElNono]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

You hate to see it

[Winehole23]

You truly do. Stay safe, y'all.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BryanDawsonUSA/status/1326252543157170176?s=19

[hater]

You truly do. Stay safe, y'all.

Nobody on this board is gonna die of covid.

But if one of us or our families need ICU in the next 3 months for any reason, yes we are fucked. So stay safe yes

[Brazil]

Nobody on this board is gonna die of covid.

:depressed


But if one of us or our families need ICU in the next 3 months for any reason, yes we are fucked. So stay safe yes

:tu

[clambake]

Hey, Texas is winning the trailer morgue war.


Winning!

[tholdren]

Nobody on this board is gonna die of covid.

But if one of us or our families need ICU in the next 3 months for any reason, yes we are fucked. So stay safe yes

Why? You said Trump would surely die.

[pgardn]

The PCR test does not detect a live virus. For a virus to infect an individual or be transmitted to another person, it must be capable of replication. The PCR does not measure the ability of the material detected to make additional copies of itself. It is appropriate to use the word material because the PCR test looks for pieces of the virus’s RNA. It does not require a complete RNA strand to return a positive result

It looks for "pieces" that are already a part of the viral genome you fool.
Yes it does not necessarily require a complete strand, but this can be accounted for you nut job, do you know how?

[pgardn]

Nobody on this board is gonna die of covid.

But if one of us or our families need ICU in the next 3 months for any reason, yes we are fucked. So stay safe yes

Culburn died of it.
In a metaphorical sense,
It killed him.

And it rendered the foldren as useless as a firm potato head.

[clambake]

It looks for "pieces" that are already a part of the viral genome you fool.
Yes it does not necessarily require a complete strand, but this can be accounted for you nut job, do you know how?

I don’t get why people respond to him. He’s a special kind of stupid.

[ElNono]

I don’t get why people respond to him. He’s a special kind of stupid.

I noticed that if I run a rodeo on him for 5 mins or so, I can keep him in the same thread instead coming here to find 15 old thread bumps. :lol

[ElNono]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

sup

[pgardn]

I don’t get why people respond to him. He’s a special kind of stupid.

He reads bits and pieces of things and then pretends he gets it.
but eventually it comes down to just "reply with quote" and done.

I like that he gets lumped in with the MAGAtards though. He is one of them and it must be advertised.

[Will Hunting]

Jesus, up to 1,500 daily deaths while Trump cries in his bunker and doesn't even pretend to handle his job as president.

You hate to see it.

[spurraider21]

Jesus, up to 1,500 daily deaths while Trump cries in his bunker and doesn't even pretend to handle his job as president.

You hate to see it.
and with the extreme spike in cases... its going to get worse before it gets better

[Will Hunting]

and with the extreme spike in cases... its going to get worse before it gets better
Were gonna see field hospitals getting set up across the country.

Im supposed to fly across the country tomorrow. Not sure if I’m going to.

[spurraider21]

Were gonna see field hospitals getting set up across the country.

Im supposed to fly across the country tomorrow. Not sure if I’m going to.
my folks are flying over here for thanksgiving... worried thats not a great idea anymore

[Will Hunting]

my folks are flying over here for thanksgiving... worried thats not a great idea anymore
Yeah my plan is flying back to az through thanksgiving and flying back in early December. My big concern now is whether I’ll even be able to fly back to DC a month from now.

[TimDunkem]

2.2k per day by January? Shit we'll have that by the end of the month.

[ElNono]

Yeah my plan is flying back to az through thanksgiving and flying back in early December. My big concern now is whether I’ll even be able to fly back to DC a month from now.

Check for upgrades to firstclass... at least you get additional distance, tbh

[Will Hunting]

Check for upgrades to firstclass... at least you get additional distance, tbh
:lol I’m already flying first class, I’m not poor.

[ElNono]

:lol I’m already flying first class, I’m not poor.

:lol my nig.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmlpGtlU8AAjHy3?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

1326700235708489728

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/123506356_3563493607073698_4231562176322431935_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=h-xXwpxqxhAAX_IKh06&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&tp=14&oh=99376034bb821234d7221d9f3abaf243&oe=5FD135F4

Why do we make them still ?

[DarrinS]

:lol I’m already flying first class, I’m not poor.

So progressive

[Isitjustme?]

So progressive

Got eem!

[boutons_deux]

Wednesday November 11th

145,000 new cases

[Winehole23]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/123506356_3563493607073698_4231562176322431935_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=h-xXwpxqxhAAX_IKh06&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&tp=14&oh=99376034bb821234d7221d9f3abaf243&oe=5FD135F4

Why do we make them still ?Smoking isn't a contagious disease.

[RandomGuy]

1326700235708489728

not-fun thing is that Texas fatality count that it is reporting now... is based on case levels from weeks ago.

case count 10 day average two weeks ago: 4300 or so.

Case count 10 day average 11-11: 8000

Looks like we will need more morgue trucks.

[spurraider21]

BUT WHAT ABOUT *glug glug* NEW YORK IN APRIL

[Ef-man]

Corey Lewandowski contracted coronavirus.

[Splits]

Corey Lewandowski contracted coronavirus.

Ben Carson as well. I think I heard others but too lazy to look it up.

Probably the Trump Election Superspreader party deserves its own thread.

[Winehole23]

1326887070103695361

https://www.looper.com/152716/the-ending-of-the-mist-finally-explained/#:~:text=David%20checks%20the%20gun%2C%20sees,rumb les%20out%20of%20the%20mist.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmlpGtlU8AAjHy3?format=jpg&name=900x900Buzz is great for this location on Twitter, 20 minute drive-throughs have been reported.

[pgardn]

What are this administration’s plans for Thanksgiving and then December?
Any ideas?

Biden is gonna enter a deadlier mess than Obama.

[baseline bum]

Fucking hell, 161,541 new cases today and it's not even Friday, when daily case counts usually peak. Wondering if we hit 175k new cases tomorrow. That 1500 deaths reported yesterday isn't going to look like shit in about 3-4 weeks when deaths from these new cases this week start piling up.

[baseline bum]

What are this administration’s plans for Thanksgiving and then December?
Any ideas?

Biden is gonna enter a deadlier mess than Obama.

Trash the nation as much as possible for Biden is the plan.

[baseline bum]

Man I remember thinking how fucked we were going to be when Fauci was talking 100,000 new cases a day. We're going to double that shit in no time.

[Splits]

15 going to 0 very soon

[Will Hunting]

Trash the nation as much as possible for Biden is the plan.
It’s a time honored tradition of Republican presidents to trash the office on their way out so the new Dem president has to clean it up. GHWB, GWB and now Trump.

[RandomGuy]

What are this administration’s plans for Thanksgiving and then December?
Any ideas?

Biden is gonna enter a deadlier mess than Obama.

Golf a lot. Try and hide/delete as many incriminating emails and documents as possible, before the IG's are independent again.

[Winehole23]

Fucking hell, 161,541 new cases today and it's not even Friday, when daily case counts usually peak. Wondering if we hit 175k new cases tomorrow. That 1500 deaths reported yesterday isn't going to look like shit in about 3-4 weeks when deaths from these new cases this week start piling up.COVID-19 isn't half done rearranging our lives, last spring was just a warmup.

[Winehole23]

Man I remember thinking how fucked we were going to be when Fauci was talking 100,000 new cases a day. We're going to double that shit in no time.If we're all very good about wearing masks all the time starting right now, painful lockdowns might be avoided, right?

[Splits]

1327270891881959424

[Winehole23]

1327270891881959424fuk

[spurraider21]

already over 175k new cases reported today, over 1300 deaths

[tholdren]

already over 175k new cases reported today, over 1300 deaths

Ifr less than flu. Still.

[BD24]

Where the fuck is Dale? Did Covid get him or is he just being a chickenshit and hiding in the reading room?

[Will Hunting]

Where the fuck is Dale? Did Covid get him or is he just being a chickenshit and hiding in the reading room?
He’s been lurking and logging in regularly being a chickenshit.

[boutons_deux]

170K cases Friday

==================

South Dakota reports all-time high for new virus cases

https://apnews.com/article/health-south-dakota-coronavirus-pandemic-brookings-9541408dbb58fbe0bb458a0a2ca9e300

===================

South Dakota governor defends her pandemic approach

telling lawmakers during a special session that she has done a good job in managing the pandemic.

including her refusal to issue a stay-at-home order, was the right one, despite a surge in cases in South Dakota, which had the second-highest positivity rate of any state over the past two weeks as of Monday,

The federal government sent South Dakota $1.25 billion dollars from the Coronavirus Relief Fund.

Noem said she has spent “countless hours” on the phone and in Washington

asking for flexibility in how South Dakota spends the money. :lol NOT for the pandemic relief

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-pandemics-south-dakota-archive-kristi-noem-466ed6620d3fa4bf6c01dc146e4fc9c8

Fucking Repugs EVERYWHERE, 100% MISgovernance, often MORTAL.

[BD24]

He’s been lurking and logging in regularly being a chickenshit.
Par for the course.

He can dish it, but he can’t take it

[tholdren]

Where the fuck is Dale? Did Covid get him or is he just being a chickenshit and hiding in the reading room?

Ifr drops every day.

Avg age of covid death 83
Avg comorbidities 3

[ChumpDumper]

And f:lolldren only travels to countries that beat COVID in his fantasies.:lmao

[tholdren]

Ifr drops every day.

Avg age of covid death 83
Avg comorbidities 3

Why are you so triggered by me and not responding to the actual data?

Oh yeah. You lie.

In Florida. At a bar.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao no one at the bar will talk to f:lolldren

[BD24]

Ifr drops every day.

Avg age of covid death 83
Avg comorbidities 3
Great.

now do you have an answer that relates to my question? Or are you just going to continue to sit there and pull on your dick?

[pgardn]

Great.

now do you have an answer that relates to my question? Or are you just going to continue to sit there and pull on your dick?

The dick pulling thing.

[ChumpDumper]

The dick pulling thing.No wonder no one speaks to him in the bar.

[pgardn]

No wonder no one speaks to him in the bar.

Thats gonna get him isolated Im thinking..

[tholdren]

Great.

now do you have an answer that relates to my question? Or are you just going to continue to sit there and pull on your dick?

You going to.continue to cry about a disease that is hundredths of a percent fatal to the vast majority? Is that the karen thing?

Ifr less than flu
Masks dont prevent
Lockdowns don't prevent.

Keep hiding and crying

[pgardn]

You going to.continue to cry about a disease that is hundredths of a percent fatal to the vast majority? Is that the karen thing?

Ifr less than flu
Masks dont prevent
Lockdowns don't prevent.

Keep hiding and crying

You lie.
And even if it was not lethal you think everyone should get it?
There are other effects besides dying ya fckn buffo toad.

[tholdren]

You lie.
And even if it was not lethal you think everyone should get it?
There are other effects besides dying ya fckn buffo toad.

No there's not. And the ifr is less than the flu for a majority.

Avg age of covid death over life expectancy. Avg comorbidities 3

[ChumpDumper]

You lie.
And even if it was not lethal you think everyone should get it?
There are other effects besides dying ya fckn buffo toad.

[tholdren]

No there's not. And the ifr is less than the flu for a majority.

Avg age of covid death over life expectancy. Avg comorbidities 3

Just like the data has shown for 9 months. Shocking!!!!

[pgardn]

No there's not. And the ifr is less than the flu for a majority.

Avg age of covid death over life expectancy. Avg comorbidities 3

Yes there are other effects.
some may be long term and bad enough to where if you got it, you would want to die.

It would probably be the best thing to happen to you for a reality check.

[ChumpDumper]

You lie.
And even if it was not lethal you think everyone should get it?
There are other effects besides dying ya fckn buffo toad..

[tholdren]

Yes there are other effects.
some may be long term and bad enough to where if you got it, you would want to die.

It would probably be the best thing to happen to you for a reality check.

No there aren't. Stop lying. There are no regular long term effects from anyone healthy getting this. You are so ignorant to facts.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes there are other effects.
some may be long term and bad enough to where if you got it, you would want to die.

It would probably be the best thing to happen to you for a reality check.

[tholdren]

No there aren't. Stop lying. There are no regular long term effects from anyone healthy getting this. You are so ignorant to facts.

Chumpdump lost his mind bwahahahaahhhhaahazhz

[ChumpDumper]

You lie. buffo toad.

[pgardn]

No there aren't. Stop lying. There are no regular long term effects from anyone healthy getting this. You are so ignorant to facts.


Yes there are.
Stop lying.

[tholdren]

No there aren't. Stop lying. There are no regular long term effects from anyone healthy getting this. You are so ignorant to facts.


Yes there are.
Stop lying.

No there aren't


You
Are
Not
Intelligent

[ChumpDumper]

Stop lying.

[SnakeBoy]

already over 175k new cases reported today, over 1300 deaths

You ain't seen nuttin yet

[tholdren]

pandemic-related lockdowns and restrictions have inflicted much more harm on younger people than the coronavirus itself. A new report reveals that nearly half of 18 to 24 year-olds are “showing at least moderate depressive symptoms," and for many the depression is severe.

Researchers at Harvard, Northeastern, Rutgers, and Northwestern universities conducted eight large survey rounds across all US states from April through October, finding that young adults are increasingly having suicidal thoughts. In the US adult population as a whole

[ElNono]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

ahem

[monosylab1k]

Thread come on out and take your spanking, get it over with. You can’t hide forever.

[tholdren]

ahem

Not as dangerous as the flu for majority of population

[clambake]

pandemic-related lockdowns and restrictions have inflicted much more harm on younger people than the coronavirus itself. A new report reveals that nearly half of 18 to 24 year-olds are “showing at least moderate depressive symptoms," and for many the depression is severe.

Researchers at Harvard, Northeastern, Rutgers, and Northwestern universities conducted eight large survey rounds across all US states from April through October, finding that young adults are increasingly having suicidal thoughts. In the US adult population as a whole
Trumps America

Post the surveys about trumps America

[ElNono]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

[Winehole23]

1327697214525689856

[DMC]

1327697214525689856

Those folks aren't masked, likely an older photo. Narrative and all tho.

[ChumpDumper]

Those folks aren't masked, likely an older photo. Narrative and all tho.Looks like you're totally wrong tbh.

[DMC]

"What countries with surging infections can take away from Taiwan’s experience is that nothing works without contact tracing those who have tested positive and then quarantining them, said Chen Chien-jen, Taiwan’s former vice president and an epidemiologist, in an interview.

Also, as it’s not easy to make people stay in quarantine, Taiwan has taken steps to provide meal and grocery delivery and even some friendly contact via Line Bot, a robot that texts and chats. There is also punishment — those who break quarantine face fines of up to NT$1million ($35,000)."

I'm all for this.

There is no national contact-tracing program in the U.S., and contact tracers who work for the 40 local health departments in areas with the most coronavirus cases have reached just a fraction of the patients who have tested positive, a Reuters investigation found earlier this month.Aug 31, 2020

Who's rioting and marching to get better contact tracing? Anyone?

[clambake]

"What countries with surging infections can take away from Taiwan’s experience is that nothing works without contact tracing those who have tested positive and then quarantining them, said Chen Chien-jen, Taiwan’s former vice president and an epidemiologist, in an interview.

Also, as it’s not easy to make people stay in quarantine, Taiwan has taken steps to provide meal and grocery delivery and even some friendly contact via Line Bot, a robot that texts and chats. There is also punishment — those who break quarantine face fines of up to NT$1million ($35,000)."

I'm all for this.

There is no national contact-tracing program in the U.S., and contact tracers who work for the 40 local health departments in areas with the most coronavirus cases have reached just a fraction of the patients who have tested positive, a Reuters investigation found earlier this month.Aug 31, 2020

Who's rioting and marching to get better contact tracing? Anyone?
The question is “how do you train knuckleheads”

This shit is embarrassing for this country.

[ChumpDumper]

The question is “how do you train knuckleheads”

This shit is embarrassing for this country.Amarillo is almost as bad as El Paso right now and those rubes put on a mask-optional indoor rodeo this weekend.

https://www.myhighplains.com/news/local-news/wrca-rodeo-continues-in-amarillo-as-covid-19-cases-rise/

[Winehole23]

"What countries with surging infections can take away from Taiwan’s experience is that nothing works without contact tracing those who have tested positive and then quarantining them, said Chen Chien-jen, Taiwan’s former vice president and an epidemiologist, in an interview.

Also, as it’s not easy to make people stay in quarantine, Taiwan has taken steps to provide meal and grocery delivery and even some friendly contact via Line Bot, a robot that texts and chats. There is also punishment — those who break quarantine face fines of up to NT$1million ($35,000)."

I'm all for this.

There is no national contact-tracing program in the U.S., and contact tracers who work for the 40 local health departments in areas with the most coronavirus cases have reached just a fraction of the patients who have tested positive, a Reuters investigation found earlier this month.Aug 31, 2020Our political leadership has been piss poor. It's one of the main differences between us and other rich countries. It's amazing how much avoidable mass death Americans will put up with -- life is pretty cheap in the USA.

[DMC]

Our political leadership has been piss poor. It's one of the main differences between us and other rich countries. It's amazing how much avoidable mass death Americans will put up with -- life is pretty cheap in the USA.

The leadership is a representation of the electorate. Maybe our values are different than other countries.

[Winehole23]

The leadership is a representation of the electorate. Maybe our values are different than other countries.Blaming the voters and embracing avoidable mass death -- because, values -- is optional.

Putting the burden of facing COVID-19 on people with the power to do something about it -- like President Trump and the US Congress, like governors and state legislators, like city and county officials, like the public at at large -- seems much preferable to puny teacup striving at "values," eh?

[DMC]

Blaming the voters and embracing avoidable mass death -- because, values -- is optional.

Putting the burden of facing COVID-19 on people with the power to do something about it -- like President Trump and the US Congress, like governors and state legislators, like city and county officials, like the public at at large -- seems much preferable to puny teacup striving at "values," eh?

Facing the truth is always optional. It's easy to blame something out of your own control. It all goes back to values. Which candidate ran on a plan of intrusive contact tracing and quarantine with 35K dollar fines for violating them? Neither, because they wouldn't have made it past the primaries. That's because of values. Most Americans probably still see COVID as something that happens to other people who aren't careful. Even here it's a wart against anyone from the other party, they deserved it for lack of proper protocol at some point (regardless how illogical that is).

[Ef-man]

Speaking in circles will always bring you back to your starting point.

[Winehole23]

Facing the truth is always optional. It's easy to blame something out of your own control. It all goes back to values. Which candidate ran on a plan of intrusive contact tracing and quarantine with 35K dollar fines for violating them? Neither, because they wouldn't have made it past the primaries. That's because of values. Most Americans probably still see COVID as something that happens to other people who aren't careful. Even here it's a wart against anyone from the other party, they deserved it for lack of proper protocol at some point (regardless how illogical that is).They deserved it.

(Very convincing, profe.)

[tholdren]

Not as dangerous as the flu for majority of population

[Winehole23]

1328016885774946305

[DMC]

They deserved it.

(Very convincing, profe.)

There are plenty threads here where people are :tu COVID diagnosis based on political party.

[Winehole23]

There are plenty threads here where people are :tu COVID diagnosis based on political party.Your whining never stops, does it?

[DMC]

Your whining never stops, does it?

You're full of shit. You're a worry junkie, addicted to drama.

[tholdren]

Blaming the voters and embracing avoidable mass death -- because, values -- is optional.

Putting the burden of facing COVID-19 on people with the power to do something about it -- like President Trump and the US Congress, like governors and state legislators, like city and county officials, like the public at at large -- seems much preferable to puny teacup striving at "values," eh?

Its a virus. Stop testing it goes away. Don't test at 40 to 45 CT it goes away. Avg age of covid death is past life expectancy with an avg of 3 comorbidities. It's not the spanish flu. Its not like killing mass amounts of healthy people. Its not killing o ly people who do t wear masks.

The data collection and reporting is terrible. That's the problem

[Ef-man]

Desperate foldren convinces no one and folds, again. No math, no links and still not in El Paso.


Its a virus. Stop testing it goes away. Don't test at 40 to 45 CT it goes away. Avg age of covid death is past life expectancy with an avg of 3 comorbidities. It's not the spanish flu. Its not like killing mass amounts of healthy people. Its not killing o ly people who do t wear masks.

The data collection and reporting is terrible. That's the problem

[tholdren]

Its a virus. Stop testing it goes away. Don't test at 40 to 45 CT it goes away. Avg age of covid death is past life expectancy with an avg of 3 comorbidities. It's not the spanish flu. Its not like killing mass amounts of healthy people. Its not killing o ly people who do t wear masks.

The data collection and reporting is terrible. That's the problem

Elf man triggered. Lolookki

Hiding with a mask.

What a smart guy

[Ef-man]

Foldren scared, desperate, and folds as he cannot convince anyone. Sad.


Elf man triggered. Lolookki

Hiding with a mask.

What a smart guy

[DMC]

I don't get the mask issue. "Oh he didn't wear a mask, of course he got it". Wasn't the mask supposed to be to avoid spreading it, not to avoid getting it? Didn't the CDC say as much?

[tholdren]

I don't get the mask issue. "Oh he didn't wear a mask, of course he got it". Wasn't the mask supposed to be to avoid spreading it, not to avoid getting it? Didn't the CDC say as much?

No. They even admit as much with their quarantine rules
Even if you wear a mask you still must quarantine if a close contact of a covid positive.

Lolololol

Masks dont work. Nor has the science ever said they.do. 0 randomized trials

[ChumpDumper]

I don't get the mask issue. "Oh he didn't wear a mask, of course he got it". Wasn't the mask supposed to be to avoid spreading it, not to avoid getting it? Didn't the CDC say as much?

Your mask offers some protection to you

A cloth mask also offers some protection to you too. How well it protects you from breathing in the virus likely depends on the fabrics used and how your mask is made (e.g. the type of fabric, the number of layers of fabric, how well the mask fits). CDC is currently studying these factors.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html

Low information DMC.

[ChumpDumper]

Also low information f:lolldren.

No intelligence.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll say it twice.

Also low information f:lolldren.

No intelligence.

[Ef-man]

Can you say it a third time?

Foldren is not good with math.

Thanks :tu


I'll say it twice.

Also low information f:lolldren.

No intelligence.

[DMC]

Your mask offers some protection to you

A cloth mask also offers some protection to you too. How well it protects you from breathing in the virus likely depends on the fabrics used and how your mask is made (e.g. the type of fabric, the number of layers of fabric, how well the mask fits). CDC is currently studying these factors.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html

Low information DMC.

Though health officials have warned Americans to prepare for the spread of the novel coronavirus in the U.S., people shouldn’t wear face masks to prevent the spread of the infectious illness, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the U.S. surgeon general.

But that’s not the only reason Americans may want to think twice about using masks, one expert told MarketWatch.

Most people don’t know how to use face masks correctly, and a rush to buy masks could prevent the people who need them most — health care providers — from getting them, said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a scholar at the Center for Health Security at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

In fact the U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!,” wrote Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Twitter.


The CDC said last month it doesn’t recommend people use face masks, making the announcement on the same day that first case of person-to-person transmission of coronavirus was reported in the U.S. The CDC recommendation on masks stands, a spokesman told MarketWatch Wednesday, even with the first reported case of a COVID-19 infection in an individual in California who had not been to China or been exposed to a person diagnosed with the virus.

“The virus is not spreading in the general community,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a Jan. 30 briefing. “We don’t routinely recommend the use of face masks by the public to prevent respiratory illness. And we certainly are not recommending that at this time for this new virus.”


So when did the CDC realize masks prevent the wearer from contracting COVID?

[ChumpDumper]

Though health officials have warned Americans to prepare for the spread of the novel coronavirus in the U.S., people shouldn’t wear face masks to prevent the spread of the infectious illness, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the U.S. surgeon general.

But that’s not the only reason Americans may want to think twice about using masks, one expert told MarketWatch.

Most people don’t know how to use face masks correctly, and a rush to buy masks could prevent the people who need them most — health care providers — from getting them, said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a scholar at the Center for Health Security at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

In fact the U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!,” wrote Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Twitter.


So when did the CDC realize masks prevent the wearer from contracting COVID?:lmao you just posted a story from March.

Defensive and disingenuous and dumb.

[DMC]

:lmao you just posted a story from March.

Defensive and disingenuous and dumb.

Science must not have existed prior to March.

[ChumpDumper]

Science must not have existed prior to March.Apparently you stopped existing in March.

You were so ashamed you wouldn't even post a link.:lol

[DMC]

In fact, the turn about was due to previously unforeseen asymptomatic carriers. So masks were to prevent those people from spreading it, not to prevent the wearer from getting it.


The point is that many here now have completely moved over to the false notion that the mask is to protect the wearer. It wasn't intended to be that. It's not that.

[DMC]

Apparently you stopped existing in March.

You were so ashamed you wouldn't even post a link.:lol

Do you disagree with the claim that the CDC had that stance? Because I am not going to play fetch for you, clown. You know fuck all about it.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you disagree with the claim that the CDC had that stance? Because I am not going to play fetch for you, clown. You know fuck all about it.I know you're not an honest broker.

You're welcome for the CDC information on masks. You knew fuck all about it.

[DMC]

I know you're not an honest broker.

You're welcome for the CDC information on masks. You knew fuck all about it.

"Face masks will be most effective at slowing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 if they are widely used, because they may help prevent people who are asymptomatically infected from transmitting the disease unknowingly," Gottlieb wrote. Gottlieb points to South Korea and Hong Kong — two places that were shown to manage their outbreaks successfully and where face masks are used widely.

[DMC]

Keep flinging shit at the wall, David. See what sticks.

[ChumpDumper]

"Face masks will be most effective at slowing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 if they are widely used, because they may help prevent people who are asymptomatically infected from transmitting the disease unknowingly," Gottlieb wrote. Gottlieb points to South Korea and Hong Kong — two places that were shown to manage their outbreaks successfully and where face masks are used widely.:lol you're just flailing now that I schooled you.

You demand an entire timeline from me and you won't post a link. You're being a little bitch.

[ChumpDumper]

Keep flinging shit at the wall, David. See what sticks.I got a direct hit on you and you can't wipe that turd off.:lol

You were just wrong. It happens more than you want to admit. It's OK.

[DMC]

I don't get the mask issue. "Oh he didn't wear a mask, of course he got it". Wasn't the mask supposed to be to avoid spreading it, not to avoid getting it? Didn't the CDC say as much?


:lol you're just flailing now that I schooled you.

You demand an entire timeline from me and you won't post a link. You're being a little bitch.

Few people here actually ping you or respond to you, so to pretend someone demanded anything of you is borderline delusional. I wasn't even talking to you, but in the midst of another lonely night, you felt the irresistible urge to chime in with another shit post.

Masks don't prevent us from getting COVID. It might help slow the spread if we are infected already. We are not using the types of masks that would have the filtration rate to make a difference otherwise, and the intake/exhaust is most often around these masks, not through them.

[ChumpDumper]

Few people here actually ping you or respond to you, so to pretend someone demanded anything of you is borderline delusional. I wasn't even talking to you, but in the midst of another lonely night, you felt the irresistible urge to chime in with another shit post.

Masks don't prevent us from getting COVID. It might help slow the spread if we are infected already. We are not using the types of masks that would have the filtration rate to make a difference otherwise, and the intake/exhaust is most often around these masks, not through them.You asked what the CDC said.

I told you.

You're angry about it.

Just put me on ignore and declare victory. We all know that's the play here.

[DMC]

I got a direct hit on you and you can't wipe that turd off.:lol

You were just wrong. It happens more than you want to admit. It's OK.

What's funny is you're probably talking about a post you made I haven't even seen. You think you landed a hit.

Here are the facts, David.

1. CDC recommended against the use of masks. They didn't remain silent on it, they recommended against it.
2. The Surgeon General also said don't buy masks.
3. When the CDC reversed their position, it was due to asymptomatic carriers.
4. The science behind URIs didn't change overnight.
5. The efficacy of OTC masks didn't suddenly improve just because the CDC changed their stance.


From Nov 12

What you need to know

People age 2 and older should wear masks in public settings and when around people who don’t live in their household.​
Masks offer some protection to you and are also meant to protect those around you, in case you are unknowingly infected with the virus that causes COVID-19.
A mask is NOT a substitute for social distancing. Masks should still be worn in addition to staying at least 6 feet apart.
Wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds or use hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol after touching or removing your mask. (No one is doing this btw, so there's that)
Masks may not be necessary when you are outside by yourself away from others, or with other people who live in your household. However, some localities may have mask mandates while out in public and these mandates should always be followed. (so social distance is better than a mask, and the mask doesn't make up for lack of social distance. What does the mask do exactly?)
CDC is still studying the effectiveness of different types of masks and will update our recommendations as new scientific evidence becomes available.


So when someone becomes infected with COVID and some shit bird like you says something stupid about them not wearing a mask, just remember why you bought into it in the 1st place, David.

[DMC]

You asked what the CDC said.

I told you.

You're angry about it.

Just put me on ignore and declare victory. We all know that's the play here.

You keep responding to me even though you know I've had you on ignore for years. You have an insatiable appetite for forum banter.

[ChumpDumper]

You keep responding to me even though you know I've had you on ignore for years. You have an insatiable appetite for forum banter.--he said, responding to me.

:lol pick a lane, waffles. Ignore me or don't ignore me and stop saying you ignore me.

The CDC says wearing a mask protects you.

You got your answer and now you're on jihad against me.

Calm your tits.

[DMC]

--he said, responding to me.

:lol pick a lane, waffles. Ignore me or don't ignore me and stop saying you ignore me.

The CDC says wearing a mask protects you.

You got your answer and now you're on jihad against me.

Calm your tits.

CDC is still studying the effectiveness of different types of masks and will update our recommendations as new scientific evidence becomes available.


So the CDC can say it offers some protection but cannot quantify "some"?

You ever complete any science courses? :lol
People in large cities wearing masks, still getting the Rona by the truckloads. Maybe they can be buried in their masks, eh David?

[ChumpDumper]

CDC is still studying the effectiveness of different types of masks and will update our recommendations as new scientific evidence becomes available.


So the CDC can say it offers some protection but cannot quantify "some"? You asked.

I gave you the answer.

And the link.

Now you're in full Philo mode.

You get pissed when I prove you're wrong about anything.

Don't be wrong so often or just really ignore me.

You're going to be fine. It's only a big deal to you.

You're big but brittle.

[DMC]

You asked.

I gave you the answer.

And the link.

Now you're in full Philo mode.

You get pissed when I prove you're wrong about anything.

Don't be wrong so often or just really ignore me.

You're going to be fine. It's only a big deal to you.

You're big but brittle.


How much protection does a cloth mask provide the wearer, David?

[pgardn]

DMC again being disingenuous about the timing of recommendations.
Go figure. The biggest errors in all of this was the refusal of our president to acknowledge the seriousness of this virus and then just flat out lie about it.

We never got a straight story because he did not want to scare the public so he ended up scaring the shit out of people and created chaos at the same time. One could not have tried to be worse in handling this thing. So, he’s gone. And we have been exposed for our crappy health care.

[Winehole23]

You're full of shit. You're a worry junkie, addicted to drama.Whine about me or whine about mean liberals who said mean things. Whine about the generally low quality of posters/posting in this forum.

(Anything to avoid the topic, as usual.)

[ChumpDumper]

How much protection does a cloth mask provide the wearer, David?How far do you want to move your goalpost?

You got educated.

By me.

Get over yourself.

[DMC]

DMC again being disingenuous about the timing of recommendations.
Go figure. The biggest errors in all of this was the refusal of our president to acknowledge the seriousness of this virus and then just flat out lie about it.

We never got a straight story because he did not want to scare the public so he ended up scaring the shit out of people and created chaos at the same time. One could not have tried to be worse in handling this thing. So, he’s gone. And we have been exposed for our crappy health care.

Source Control to Block Exhaled Virus
Multi-layer cloth masks block release of exhaled respiratory particles into the environment along with the microorganisms these particles carry. Cloth masks not only effectively block most large droplets (i.e., 20-30 microns and larger) but they can also block the exhalation of fine droplets and particles (also often referred to as aerosols) smaller than 10 microns which increase in number with the volume of speech and specific types of phonation. Multi-layer cloth masks can both block up to 50-70% of these fine droplets and particles and limit the forward spread of those that are not captured. Upwards of 80% blockage has been achieved in human experiments that have measured blocking of all respiratory droplets,4 with cloth masks in some studies performing on par with surgical masks as barriers for source control. -CDC

Somewhere along the way many on the left began to falsely associate not wearing a mask with catching the virus, when in reality the mask is supposed to prevent the spread. There's no useful data to show how well your mask protects you from getting the virus and there's a reason your mask isn't used by care providers.

I'm not even saying masks don't provide personal protection. I am saying that's not why the CDC reversed their decision. They offered the same PP prior to March.

Just stop the stupid. You should know better.

[DMC]

How far do you want to move your goalpost?

You got educated.

By me.

Get over yourself.

So you don't know and you cannot find a reliable source to copypasta from.

[DMC]

Whine about me or whine about mean liberals who said mean things. Whine about the generally low quality of posters/posting in this forum.

(Anything to avoid the topic, as usual.)

Whine about me whining.

[Winehole23]

(DMC likes to blame you and me for the shortcomings of our government, especially when Republicans are running it. He has repeatedly posted the CDC's intitial guidance on masking as if it were never updated and has been dragged every time.)

[pgardn]

Source Control to Block Exhaled Virus
Multi-layer cloth masks block release of exhaled respiratory particles into the environment along with the microorganisms these particles carry. Cloth masks not only effectively block most large droplets (i.e., 20-30 microns and larger) but they can also block the exhalation of fine droplets and particles (also often referred to as aerosols) smaller than 10 microns which increase in number with the volume of speech and specific types of phonation. Multi-layer cloth masks can both block up to 50-70% of these fine droplets and particles and limit the forward spread of those that are not captured. Upwards of 80% blockage has been achieved in human experiments that have measured blocking of all respiratory droplets,4 with cloth masks in some studies performing on par with surgical masks as barriers for source control. -CDC

Somewhere along the way many on the left began to falsely associate not wearing a mask with catching the virus, when in reality the mask is supposed to prevent the spread. There's no useful data to show how well your mask protects you from getting the virus and there's a reason your mask isn't used by care providers.

I'm not even saying masks don't provide personal protection. I am saying that's not why the CDC reversed their decision. They offered the same PP prior to March.

Just stop the stupid. You should know better.

wtf...

The bolded is YOUR stupid declaration.
The right thought they would eschew mask wearing because “muh rights” Trump ran with this. That’s just stupid. Purposely confusing messages by the orange guy and DMC is all on the CDC. Like Trump never tried to make an agency incompetent from the beginning by manipulation


and n95 masks were sold long before the virus when working in a particulate environment
they were there solely for the use preventing inhaled particles. That was a good bet before more studies were done.

it’s stupid not to think there’s some protection if not to block giant spitballs with the evidence at hand. But anyone who has been keeping up knows you don’t want to spend time in an aerosol environment, even with a mask. This was one of the big gripes concerning frontline workers. “THEY must take the risk for MY economy”

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't know and you cannot find a reliable source to copypasta from.

It wasn't the question you asked originally.

This is not your victory.

You lost and you're enraged.

Just calm down. You're too shrill and emotional.

[Brazil]

:lol funny Trumptards running away from that thread now tbh... same who were accusing people to not follow anymore the count now that Biden was elected.

Bunch of disgusting human beings... Trump hands are full of blood

[DMC]

It wasn't the question you asked originally.

This is not your victory.

You lost and you're enraged.

Just calm down. You're too shrill and emotional.

So you don't know

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't know:lol are you declaring victory after lying and melting down and moving your goalpost, derpMC?

That's adorable.

[RandomGuy]

CDC is still studying the effectiveness of different types of masks and will update our recommendations as new scientific evidence becomes available.


So the CDC can say it offers some protection but cannot quantify "some"?

You ever complete any science courses? :lol
People in large cities wearing masks, still getting the Rona by the truckloads. Maybe they can be buried in their masks, eh David?

Except the highest rates of infection are now in rural counties.

Because they won't wear masks.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC's original question before he menstruated:

I don't get the mask issue. "Oh he didn't wear a mask, of course he got it". Wasn't the mask supposed to be to avoid spreading it, not to avoid getting it? Didn't the CDC say as much?
I simply told him the CDC says differently from his ignorant, outdated (:lmao April) knowledge.

:lol DMC

[DMC]

:lol are you declaring victory after lying and melting down and moving your goalpost, derpMC?

That's adorable.

So you don't know

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't knowDid I ever claim to know the specifics of your goalpost move?

Yes or no.

[DMC]

Except the highest rates of infection are now in rural counties.

Because they won't wear masks.

Do you have data to support that claim or is it just a guess?

[DMC]

Did I ever claim to know the specifics of your goalpost move?

Yes or no.
So you don't know

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't knowSo you moved your goalpost.

[DMC]

wtf...

The bolded is YOUR stupid declaration.
The right thought they would eschew mask wearing because “muh rights” Trump ran with this. That’s just stupid. Purposely confusing messages by the orange guy and DMC is all on the CDC. Like Trump never tried to make an agency incompetent from the beginning by manipulation


and n95 masks were sold long before the virus when working in a particulate environment

So you're using an N95 mask?


they were there solely for the use preventing inhaled particles. That was a good bet before more studies were done.

Yes, and the CDC advised against using them unless you were a healthcare professional, and like always I am not talking about medical grade N95 and better masks.


it’s stupid not to think there’s some protection if not to block giant spitballs with the evidence at hand. But anyone who has been keeping up knows you don’t want to spend time in an aerosol environment, even with a mask. This was one of the big gripes concerning frontline workers. “THEY must take the risk for MY economy”
So the CDC was stupid to say don't wear masks, as was the Surgeon General? Or is this new "some protection" idea groundbreaking scientific discovery?

But again you don't get the point in all your frothy blathering... Mask wearing was instituted when it was learned that asymptomatic infection exists. Normal spread was present prior to that, and yet the CDC explicitly stated there is no benefit to wearing masks.

[DMC]

So you moved your goalpost.

So you don't know.

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't know.So you moved your goalpost in a rage.

[tholdren]

DMC again being disingenuous about the timing of recommendations.
Go figure. The biggest errors in all of this was the refusal of our president to acknowledge the seriousness of this virus and then just flat out lie about it.

We never got a straight story because he did not want to scare the public so he ended up scaring the shit out of people and created chaos at the same time. One could not have tried to be worse in handling this thing. So, he’s gone. And we have been exposed for our crappy health care.

Dumb. No studies randomized on effectiveness of masks ever. The last study that said masks deterred hospitalizations walked back

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

:lol funny Trumptards running away from that thread now tbh... same who were accusing people to not follow anymore the count now that Biden was elected.

Bunch of disgusting human beings... Trump hands are full of blood

Not english

[ElNono]

Update (16 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 252,631+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 91.24+
Trump's Corona Plague dead on 11/16: 719 (202 Benghazis & 1.5 Obamabola outbreak)
Trump's Corona Plague dead per million U.S. rank: 10th highest death rate in the world
U.S. Presidents infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump himself)
U.S. First Ladies infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump's 3rd wife)
U.S. Senators infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 4 (4 Republicans, 0 Democrats)*
White House Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
Capitol Hill Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
White House Officials Gravely Ill: 1
Bexar County Dead: 1,451
South Korea dead: 494
Foldren folds: 5+k
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[TimDunkem]

Update (16 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 252,631+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 91.24+
Trump's Corona Plague dead on 11/16: 719 (202 Benghazis & 1.5 Obamabola outbreak)
Trump's Corona Plague dead per million U.S. rank: 10th highest death rate in the world
U.S. Presidents infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump himself)
U.S. First Ladies infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump's 3rd wife)
U.S. Senators infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 4 (4 Republicans, 0 Democrats)*
White House Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
Capitol Hill Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
White House Officials Gravely Ill: 1
Bexar County Dead: 1,451
South Korea dead: 494
Foldren folds: 5+k
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Topsy

[RandomGuy]

Do you have data to support that claim or is it just a guess?

:lol lazy ass never ponies up data for his claims, expects others to give him the courtesy in return. No thanks. Not doing your work for you.

[Splits]

1328675001948581891

[DMC]

:lol lazy ass never ponies up data for his claims, expects others to give him the courtesy in return. No thanks. Not doing your work for you.

So you have no data

[hater]

We soon gonna be a 2k dead a day so we will hit the 300k rotting american corpses by Dec 10 imo.

350k dead by Jan 1st is a done deal

Good work Trump

[hater]

We will most likely hit 400k dead by Inauguration. Meaning Trump has practically killed 100k american civilians for each year in office.

With basic math we can arrive at the numbers of 288 dead corpses per day of a Trump presidency and around a dozen dead corpses killed byTrump per hour in office.

Id say Trump will rank pretty high up the scale in biggest mass murderers of our time?

Still doesnt come close to Dubya Bush tho

[RandomGuy]

So you have no data

I said I was not going to do work for you, and that stands. Have at it.

[RandomGuy]

1328675001948581891

wow.

It's like the eugenics movement all over again.

[DMC]

wow.

It's like the eugenics movement all over again.

I suggested recently not visiting your elderly relatives and those here on the left scoffed at it, saying due diligence was enough. You were silent on that.

[ChumpDumper]

You also spelled Colombia with a u.

[DMC]

wow.

It's like the eugenics movement all over again.
Why can't you visit vulnerable people if you take the proper precautions?

I think the problem is people that rationalize that they shouldn't take the proper precautions "coz old people are going to die anyways"... that's basically what I take exception with. It's incredibly selfish and a terrible excuse.


You can. You will be accepting the fact that there is still a risk. People who wear masks and socially distance can still spread and contract the virus. Maybe treat it as if it's you who will die if the virus is transmitted by a visit. Maybe then the risk will become less acceptable.


Sure, but it's a lot easier to accept that you did everything that was in your power to prevent contagion. You know, behaving like a responsible adult.


Except not going around them.

So it's about making you, the one not as susceptible to dying of COVID, feel better about yourself after the fact?


So which side of this issue do you take now that it's not so blue and red?

[ElNono]

So which side of this issue do you take now that it's not so blue and red?

Depends on the situation, IMO. I think Atlas is a total hack when it comes to dispensing advice on this thing, but he's not wrong in that there might be cases where this might effectively be the last thanksgiving.

The question is what's the advice? A family gathering? That's out of the question with the current spike.

[RandomGuy]

I suggested recently not visiting your elderly relatives and those here on the left scoffed at it, saying due diligence was enough. You were silent on that.

I would guess that is because I didn't notice it.

I will not be visiting my elderly father this year due to the spike.

[tholdren]

I would guess that is because I didn't notice it.

I will not be visiting my elderly father this year due to the spike.

Lolooooooooolooooolloolkolkol
Ignorant

[Ef-man]

87 year old, Sen. Chuck Grassley tested positive for covid19 today.

[tholdren]

I would guess that is because I didn't notice it.

I will not be visiting my elderly father this year due to the spike.

Lololoooooridiisiaiwkwiwkisksksissiskwkwkskskkwksk sksl

What a low iq post

[Ef-man]

No math, no links, no El Paso, low IQ foldren folds, again.



Lololoooooridiisiaiwkwiwkisksksissiskwkwkskskkwksk sksl

What a low iq post

[tholdren]

Over 8k America covid deaths are listed as intentional or unintentional injury.


Loloooolkoolkoolloololkdkrkkekekskwkwk

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahshhshahahahahs hshshhzshzhahhahahahaha

[Winehole23]

Not englishyou're one to talk :lol

[boutons_deux]

Study of non-COVID-19 deaths shows 2020 increase in several demographics

March through May saw a significant increase in deaths over previous years --

and not just from COVID-19,

When deaths attributed to COVID-19 were removed from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention totals,

the death rate in several demographics outpaced the same period in 2019

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201117133908.htm (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201117133908.htm)

well, red/Confederate states MISreported covid deaths as something else.

When (Repug) lying, falsification, politicization of "science" guides govt, the truth suffers mortally.

[RandomGuy]

Study of non-COVID-19 deaths shows 2020 increase in several demographics

March through May saw a significant increase in deaths over previous years --

and not just from COVID-19,

When deaths attributed to COVID-19 were removed from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention totals,

the death rate in several demographics outpaced the same period in 2019

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201117133908.htm (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201117133908.htm)

well, red/Confederate states MISreported covid deaths as something else.

When (Repug) lying, falsification, politicization of "science" guides govt, the truth suffers mortally.



I am going to guess that when the data distortion is removed, we will get a much better picture of the excess deaths Republicans have been trying to hide and pretend don't exist.

Deaths that intellectually slow people like SnakeBoy really still can't understand.

[clambake]

1707 dead in a day. Thanks bottom feeders!

[boutons_deux]

1707 dead in a day. Thanks bottom feeders!

72M Trash voters just said they don't fucking care.

It's the Chinese virus, not The Trump-Made Pandemic.

[Will Hunting]

Already at 1,200 dead today without any reporting from Texas or Florida yet. Daily total is going to be brutal.

[Splits]

Already at 1,200 dead today without any reporting from Texas or Florida yet. Daily total is going to be brutal.

Really sad how :cry Media stopped reporting on it :cry on 4 Nov

[Winehole23]

Really sad how :cry Media stopped reporting on it :cry on 4 NovHypocritical libs stopped talking about it too. Nary a peep since.

[spurraider21]

Already at 1,200 dead today without any reporting from Texas or Florida yet. Daily total is going to be brutal.
1500 already. still nothing from texas

[spurraider21]

over 1800 today and counting per worldometer. holy fuck

[baseline bum]

over 1800 today and counting per worldometer. holy fuck

Texas #1

[mrsmaalox]

you're one to talk :lol

LOL I never knew it was possible to type in Tourettes

[Splits]

LOL I never knew it was possible to type in Tourettes

to improve your ST experience, I'd recommend putting foldren on ignore. he's the only one on my list.

[RandomGuy]

1500 already. still nothing from texas

Texas updates its data at 9:30am the next day.

Texas has been adding about 100 or so fatalities per day for the last few days,
The uptick in cases usually leads deaths by a week, but the reporting for those deaths takes about two weeks to get to about 95% of what it will eventually be.

Overall case fatality rate (based on confirmed, and not probables) stays at about 2% over a long period of time, being much higher at the beginning than now, but still hovering around that benchmark.

We are probably seeing a peak in fatalities approaching the late July early Aug numbers right now, and will probably blow past that given the case counts in another week or two.

Go here to see projections for your neck of the woods.
https://covid-19.tacc.utexas.edu/texas-projections/

72% chance that the epidemic is accelerating in the austin area 66% in SA, 75% in Houston, Dallas-FW 89%

the wave that started in El Paso has filtered out to the other metro areas.

[TimDunkem]

Texas #1
BUT ARE WE NY IN APRIL THO'?!

[RandomGuy]

LOL I never knew it was possible to type in Tourettes

I picture it something like this:

https://filthyminky.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/monkey-typing.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/ava8sWgcW387C/giphy.gif

[tholdren]

Over 8k America covid deaths are listed as intentional or unintentional injury.


Loloooolkoolkoolloololkdkrkkekekskwkwk

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahshhshahahahahs hshshhzshzhahhahahahaha
WrongdomGuy still thinks reported deaths all happened on 1 day.


Bwahahhahahajajajajjajaja

[clambake]

There’s a strange person in here responding to their own post.

[Will Hunting]

Up to 1920 dead, looks like we’ll fall short of 500 Benghazis today.

[spurraider21]

most reported deaths in a day since May 7

[spurraider21]

iTs AlL gOiNg To Go AwAy AfTeR tHe ElEcTiOn

[tholdren]

most reported deaths in a day since May 7
They don't all occur on one day. Any day can be the most reported day. You not smart

[spurraider21]

They don't all occur on one day. Any day can be the most reported day. You not smart
i literally wrote "reported" because i'm well aware of that, foldren

[ElNono]

iTs AlL gOiNg To Go AwAy AfTeR tHe ElEcTiOn

two weeks! (two weeks ago)

[Winehole23]

a small wager to keep their interest from flagging

1329244603757727746

[Winehole23]

That thing that foldren said wouldn't happen is happening.



Hospitals in at least 25 states are critically short of nurses, doctors, and other staff as coronavirus cases surge across the United States, according to the industry’s trade association and a tally conducted by STAT. The situation has gotten so bad that in some places, severely ill patients have been transferred hundreds of miles for an available bed — from Texas to Arizona, and from central Missouri to Iowa.https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/19/covid19-hospitals-in-half-the-states-facing-massive-staffing-shortage/