The Count of Corona...

[tholdren]

Thats not science, thats a graph formed from fairly questionable data (we try our best with the tools we have).
YOU dont understand science.

lol you. You claimed locked downs were necessary based on a model by a career doomsday modeler. Then when you were proven wrong, with actual data, you still claim the hypotheticals that have been proven wrong are still legitimate.

Hilarious you and ChumpDumper can't read graphs or understand it and need it "explained"

Classic

[ChumpDumper]

lol you. You claimed locked downs were necessary based on a model by a career doomsday modeler. Then when you were proven wrong, with actual data, you still claim the hypotheticals that have been proven wrong are still legitimate.

Hilarious you and ChumpDumper can't read graphs or understand it and need it "explained"

ClassicIf you can't put anything in your own words, just say so. I completely understand your inability. I also completely understand your need to never be even perceived as being wrong once on an anonymous message board. That is really important to people like you.

[DMC]

If you can't put anything in your own words, just say so. I completely understand your inability. I also completely understand your need to never be even perceived as being wrong once on an anonymous message board. That is really important to people like you.

:lol amazing how everyone you "talk" to can never be wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol amazing how everyone you "talk" to can never be wrong.:lol not amazing you responded to that post.

[tholdren]

If you can't put anything in your own words, just say so. I completely understand your inability. I also completely understand your need to never be even perceived as being wrong once on an anonymous message board. That is really important to people like you.
Welp add it up to me being right again. Cause the science proves it. But go ahead explain how much this is like the kansas flu.

Or are you still pushing the furguson model? Or you still think no one was furloughed.... you're not smart.

[DMC]

:lol not amazing you responded to that post.

:lol sure :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Welp add it up to me being right again. Cause the science proves it. Then quit hiding it.

[tholdren]

Then quit hiding it.
Believe me captain refresh button, you know exactly where I am at all times. Everything you have said about this virus is scientifically wrong. You and baseline dumb

[ChumpDumper]

Believe me captain refresh button, you know exactly where I am at all times. Everything you have said about this virus is scientifically wrong. You and baseline dumbThen why are you hiding your right answers?

[DMC]

https://i.gifer.com/GSU.gif

[baseline bum]

Shit, almost forgot Thread's dinner. Cubby must have thought I caught the rona and was laying in a mass grave somewhere.

Update (23 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 98,683
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[clambake]

Shit, almost forgot Thread's dinner. Cubby must have thought I caught the rona and was laying in a mass grave somewhere.

Update (21 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 98,683
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
Yeah, and he hid it from us way back in November

[pgardn]

Believe me captain refresh button, you know exactly where I am at all times. Everything you have said about this virus is scientifically wrong. You and baseline dumb

Refer to them so you can clean them up.

Go.

[DMC]

Refer to them so you can clean them up.

Go.
Buttinski againski

cue "not me, I wasn't arguing anything"

[Spurtacular]

Chump needs as many bad numbers as possible to get his zombie puppet in the oval office.

[clambake]

Buttinski againski

cue "not me, I wasn't arguing anything"

You should probably not argue anything, permafat.

Is there anyone in here that wants to pay permafat for pictures of men he wishes he was?

[ChumpDumper]

Chump needs as many bad numbers as possible to get his zombie puppet in the oval office.I hope no one else dies of COVID-19.

Now what?

[ChumpDumper]

You should probably not argue anything, permafat.He doesn't.

[Spurtacular]

I hope no one else dies of COVID-19.

Now what?

Now you win Miss Congeniality and can go back to secretly hoping for reports of devastation. :lol

[clambake]

Now you win Miss Congeniality and can go back to secretly hoping for reports of devastation. :lol

You exhaust a lot of effort toward someone that doesn’t sweat you at all.

[Spurtacular]

You exhaust a lot of effort toward someone that doesn’t sweat you at all.

You spend a lot of time giving Chump cyber rim jobs.

[ChumpDumper]

Now you win Miss Congeniality and can go back to secretly hoping for reports of devastation. :lolReports of devastation make you laugh.

[Spurtacular]

Reports of devastation make you laugh.

It is pretty laughable calling home accidents COVID-19 deaths.

[ChumpDumper]

It is pretty laughable calling home accidents COVID-19 deaths.How about the hospital deaths? Do those make you laugh?

[Spurtacular]

How about the hospital deaths? Do those make you laugh?

I laugh that these allegedly overworked nurses are doing choreographed dances to comfort snowflakes like you.

[clambake]

You spend a lot of time giving Chump cyber rim jobs.

You do understand that I don’t know you or him, right?


Everyone here is a casual observer.....except you.

[ChumpDumper]

I laugh that these allegedly overworked nurses are doing choreographed dances to comfort snowflakes like you.I asked about the hospital deaths.

Do those make you laugh?

[ChumpDumper]

You do understand that I don’t know you or him, right?


Everyone here is a casual observer.....except you.derp has to fantasize about all the men here having sex with each other at some point.

[Spurtacular]

I asked about the hospital deaths.

Do those make you laugh?

I laugh at losers like you supporting having people's loved ones dying in isolation cos they're scared of the COVID boogeyman.

[ChumpDumper]

I laugh at losers like you supporting having people's loved ones dying in isolation cos they're scared of the COVID boogeyman.I don't support that.

I asked about the hospital deaths.

Do those make you laugh?

[clambake]

Derp is unhappy in real life. Let him cope with the rage.

[ChumpDumper]

Derp is unhappy in real life. Let him cope with the rage.His being happy with the COVID-19 deaths must help him.

[tholdren]

Oh no Japan did not lock down and they are.....??? But but but the cdc said, but trump, but kansas.

[TimDunkem]

Oh no Japan did not lock down and they are.....??? But but but the cdc said, but trump, but kansas.

How can you compare a culture where people don't even touch in public to US? Honest question.

[tholdren]

How can you compare a culture where people don't even touch in public to US? Honest question.

So really the guidelines could have been dont touch anyone, instead of lockdown? The point is, there shouldn't have been a lockdown, which is being continually proven, by science, daily.

You were wrong. Get over it.

[TimDunkem]

So really the guidelines could have been dont touch anyone, instead of lockdown? The point is, there shouldn't have been a lockdown, which is being continually proven, by science, daily.

You were wrong. Get over it.
No I wasn't. Without any lockdowns there were places that would've hit exponential growth. Everyone else would've shrugged it off if they weren't forced to open their eyes due to the lockdown.

You're naive. Own it.

[tholdren]

No I wasn't. Without any lockdowns there were places that would've hit exponential growth. Everyone else would've shrugged it off if they weren't forced to open theit eyes due to the lockdown.

You're naive. Own it.
Lololil



WRONG

like Sweden and Japan.

Anti science karen


Bwahahaha

[TimDunkem]

Lololil



WRONG

like Sweden and Japan.

Anti science karen


Bwahahaha

Not wrong. You're just angry, ignorant, and naive. Own it.

It's not like you work anyway, so I'm not sure why you care one way or another. :lol

[tholdren]

Not wrong. You're just angry, ignorant, and naive. Own it.

It's not like you work anyway, so I'm not sure why you care one way or another. :lol

Bwahahah Sweden and japan.... bur but but.... you are not smart. But keep on doing what you do best.

[TimDunkem]

Bwahahah Sweden and japan.... bur but but.... you are not smart. But keep on doing what you do best.

Lol Okay, Karen. Keep on arguing all day. Sorry you lost your job if you even had one. :lol

100k even after lockdowns. Thinks things would've been better had we not. :lol Naive and ignorant and jobless.

[tholdren]

Lol Okay, Karen. Keep on arguing all day. Sorry you lost your job if you even had one. :lol

100k even after lockdowns. Thinks things would've been better had we not. :lol Naive and ignorant and jobless.

Lol exponential growth will happen if you don't lock down . Just ask sweden and Japan. Lolololo or the states who didn't lock down. Copying what I say, lol, Karen

[ChumpDumper]

Lol Okay, Karen. Keep on arguing all day. Sorry you lost your job if you even had one. :lol

100k even after lockdowns. Thinks things would've been better had we not. :lol Naive and ignorant and jobless.:lol he can't even admit he lied about a quote.

He wanted more deaths in a shorter amount of time.

[TimDunkem]

Lol exponential growth will happen if you don't lock down . Just ask sweden and Japan. Lolololo or the states who didn't lock down. Copying what I say, lol, Karen

You are a Karen though. I could agree with you and you'd still lie, bitch, and argue like the Karen you are.

[TimDunkem]

:lol he can't even admit he lied about a quote.

He wanted more deaths in a shorter amount of time.

It's really sad. This whole thing has broken him more than he already was.

[ChumpDumper]

It's really sad. This whole thing has broken him more than he already was.Just another poster with an enemies list.

[TimDunkem]

.

[TimDunkem]

Just another poster with an enemies list.

:lol I was just thinking that. He's never actually argued with me about Covid before he started all his nonsense with you. He used to follow me upstairs though so now I'm just another guy he argues with down here.

Like I said, I could agree with him and he'd still argue, but you'll never see him debate others here who hold the same positions we do because they're not on his enemies list.

Sad, tbh.

[tholdren]

You are a Karen though. I could agree with you and you'd still lie, bitch, and argue like the Karen you are.
Lol you said everyone had to lockdown or exponential growth....


WRONG

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I was just thinking that. He's never actually argued with me about Covid before he started all his nonsense with you. He used to follow me upstairs though so now I'm just another guy he argues with down here.

Like I said, I could agree with him and he'd still argue, but you'll never see him debate others here who hold the same positions we do because they're not on his enemies list.

Sad, tbh.The funny thing is he's so desperate to be right he has to lie about what everyone on his enemies list says and thinks.

[TimDunkem]

Lol you said everyone had to lockdown or exponential growth....


WRONG

I didn't say that. Looks like you're the one who can't read.

Some would experience exponential growth. Others wouldn't have taken it seriously unless they were made to. I was pretty clear.

:lol Bitter, ignorant, naive, jobless, AND illiterate. Damn. No wonder you're mad.

[TimDunkem]

The funny thing is he's so desperate to be right he has to lie about what everyone on his enemies list says and thinks.

God forbid one ever has to say "I was wrong".

[tholdren]

I didn't say that. Looks like you're the one who can't read.

Some would experience exponential growth. Others wouldn't have taken it seriously unless they were made to. I was pretty clear.

:lol Bitter, ignorant, naive, jobless, AND illiterate. Damn. No wonder you're mad.
Here you go karen....

Without any lockdowns there were places that would've hit exponential growth.

[TimDunkem]

Here you go karen....

Without any lockdowns there were places that would've hit exponential growth.

Good to see we're on the same page. You still alive after that? I know it must've been hard.

[tholdren]

Good to see we're on the same page. You still alive after that? I know it must've been hard.
Bwahahhaahh WRONG bwahahahaha

Lockdowns needed... bwahahahhahahaha

[TimDunkem]

Bwahahhaahh WRONG bwahahahaha

Lockdowns needed... bwahahahhahahaha

You already agreed. :lol

[tholdren]

You already agreed. :lol

hahahahhaha you don't understand what science is. Bqahahahhahaha nor how it is used for, wait for it... lockdowns of all society. Hahahahahhaha you

[ChumpDumper]

hahahahhaha you don't understand what science is. Bqahahahhahaha nor how it is used for, wait for it... lockdowns of all society. Hahahahahhaha you
Why do you have to lie?

[diego]

Contact Tracing

Experts consulted by Bloomberg News also suggested a myriad of factors that contributed to the outcome, and none could point to a singular policy package that could be replicated in other countries.

Nonetheless, these measures still offer long-term lessons for countries in the middle of pandemic that may yet last for years.

An early grassroots response to rising infections was crucial. While the central government has been criticised for its slow policy steps, experts praise the role of Japan’s contact tracers, which swung into action after the first infections were found in January.

The fast response was enabled by one of Japan’s inbuilt advantages — its public health centres, which in 2018 employed more than half of 50,000 public health nurses who are experienced in infection tracing. In normal times, these nurses would be tracking down more common infections such as influenza and tuberculosis.

“It’s very analogue — it’s not an app-based system like Singapore,” said Kazuto Suzuki, a professor of public policy at Hokkaido University who has written about Japan’s response. “But nevertheless, it has been very useful.”

While countries such as the US and the UK are just beginning to hire and train contact tracers as they attempt to reopen their economies, Japan has been tracking the movement of the disease since the first handful of cases were found.

These local experts focused on tackling clusters, or groups of infections from a single location such as clubs or hospitals, to contain cases before they got out of control.

“Many people say we don’t have a Centers for Disease Control in Japan,” said Yoko Tsukamoto, a professor of infection control at the Health Sciences University of Hokkaido, citing a frequently held complaint about Japan’s infection management. “But the public health centre is a kind of local CDC.”

'Burning Car'

The early response was also boosted by an unlikely happening. Japan’s battle with the virus first came to mainstream international attention with its much-criticised response to the Diamond Princess cruise ship in February that led to hundreds of infections.

Still, the experience of the ship is credited with providing Japanese experts with invaluable data early in the crisis on how the virus spread, as well as catapulting it into the public consciousness.

Other countries still saw the virus as someone else’s problem, said Tanaka. But in Japan, the international scrutiny over the infections onboard and the pace at which the virus raced throughout the ship raised awareness and recognition that the same can happen across the country, he said. “For Japan, it was like having a burning car right outside your house.”

Although political leadership was criticised as lacking, that allowed doctors and medical experts to come to the fore — typically seen as a best practice in managing public health emergencies. “You could say that Japan has had an expert-led approach, unlike other countries,” Tanaka said.

Experts are also credited with creating an easy-to-understand message of avoiding what are called the “Three C’s” — closed spaces, crowded spaces and close-contact settings — rather than keeping away from others entirely.

“Social distancing may work, but it doesn’t really help to continue normal social life,” said Hokkaido University’s Suzuki. “The ‘Three C’s’ are a much more pragmatic approach and very effective, while having a similar effect.”

Different Strain

Infectious disease experts also pointed to other determinants, with Shigeru Omi, the deputy head of the expert panel advising the Japanese government and a former chief of the WHO Western Pacific office, citing Japanese people’s health consciousness as possibly the most important factor.

The possibility that the virus strain spreading in Japan may have been different, and less dangerous, to that faced by other nations, has also been raised.

Researchers at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the US studied coronavirus variants in a database and found one strain of the virus spreading through Europe that had several mutations distinguishing it from the Asian version, according to a paper put in early May.

Although the study has not been peer-reviewed and drawn some criticism, the findings point to a need to more thoroughly study how the virus changes.

Large questions still remain over the true extent of the pathogen’s spread. In April, a Tokyo hospital conducted tests on a handful of non-Covid patients and found that around 7% had the coronavirus, showing the danger of missing asymptomatic or mild carriers that can become the source of an outbreak.

An antibody test on 500 people in the capital suggested the true outbreak could be nearly 20 times larger than figures have shown. Analogue contact tracing breaks down when infection numbers are high, and reports of people unable to get tested or even medical treatment for Covid-like symptoms peppered social media during the height of the outbreak.

And the fact remains that Japan’s response was less than perfect. While the overall population is much smaller, Asian neighbours such as Taiwan had just seven confirmed deaths from the virus, while Vietnam had none.

“You can’t say the Japan response was amazing,” said Norio Sugaya, a visiting professor at Keio University’s School of Medicine in Tokyo and a member of a World Health Organization panel advising on pandemic influenza. “If you look at the other Asian countries, they all had a death rate that was about 1/100th of Western countries.”

Buying Time

While Japan may have avoided the worst of the health outcomes, the loose lockdown hasn’t protected the country from the economic impact. Its economy, already dealing with the impact of a sales tax hike in October, officially slid into recession in the first three months of the year.

Economists have warned the second quarter will be the worst on record, and the specter of deflation, which haunted the economy for decades, once again looms. Tourist numbers plummeted 99.9% in April after the country shut its borders, putting the brakes on a booming industry that had promised to be a growth driver for years. As in other countries, bankruptcies have risen sharply.

Even with the end of the state of emergency in sight, authorities are warning that life will not return to normal. When case numbers slowed in early March, there was public optimism that the worst was over — only for cases to spike again and trigger the emergency declaration.

If a deadlier second wave does follow, the risk factor in Japan, which has the world’s oldest population, remains high. The country has speedily approved Gilead Sciences’ remdesivir and is now scrambling to allow the use of still unproven Fujifilm antiviral Avigan. There are calls for the country to use the time it has bought itself to shore up its testing and learn in the way its neighbours did from Sars and Mers.

Officials have begun to speak of a phase in which people “live with the virus”, with a recognition that Japan’s approach has no possibility of wiping out the pathogen.

“We have to assume that the second wave could be much worse than the first wave and prepare for it,” said Yoshihito Niki, a professor of infectious diseases at Showa University’s School of Medicine. “If the next explosion of cases is worse, the medical system will break down.”

[TimDunkem]

Why do you have to lie?

He can't help himself. It just gets sadder and sadder.

[tholdren]

Why do you have to lie?
I didn't lie. He said lockdowns were necessary or the virus would essentially be out of control.
.. Many places prove him and you wrong. ....

He also said enemy list, which is textbook Karen

[TimDunkem]

Contact Tracing

Experts consulted by Bloomberg News also suggested a myriad of factors that contributed to the outcome, and none could point to a singular policy package that could be replicated in other countries.

Nonetheless, these measures still offer long-term lessons for countries in the middle of pandemic that may yet last for years.

An early grassroots response to rising infections was crucial. While the central government has been criticised for its slow policy steps, experts praise the role of Japan’s contact tracers, which swung into action after the first infections were found in January.

The fast response was enabled by one of Japan’s inbuilt advantages — its public health centres, which in 2018 employed more than half of 50,000 public health nurses who are experienced in infection tracing. In normal times, these nurses would be tracking down more common infections such as influenza and tuberculosis.

“It’s very analogue — it’s not an app-based system like Singapore,” said Kazuto Suzuki, a professor of public policy at Hokkaido University who has written about Japan’s response. “But nevertheless, it has been very useful.”

While countries such as the US and the UK are just beginning to hire and train contact tracers as they attempt to reopen their economies, Japan has been tracking the movement of the disease since the first handful of cases were found.

These local experts focused on tackling clusters, or groups of infections from a single location such as clubs or hospitals, to contain cases before they got out of control.

“Many people say we don’t have a Centers for Disease Control in Japan,” said Yoko Tsukamoto, a professor of infection control at the Health Sciences University of Hokkaido, citing a frequently held complaint about Japan’s infection management. “But the public health centre is a kind of local CDC.”

'Burning Car'

The early response was also boosted by an unlikely happening. Japan’s battle with the virus first came to mainstream international attention with its much-criticised response to the Diamond Princess cruise ship in February that led to hundreds of infections.

Still, the experience of the ship is credited with providing Japanese experts with invaluable data early in the crisis on how the virus spread, as well as catapulting it into the public consciousness.

Other countries still saw the virus as someone else’s problem, said Tanaka. But in Japan, the international scrutiny over the infections onboard and the pace at which the virus raced throughout the ship raised awareness and recognition that the same can happen across the country, he said. “For Japan, it was like having a burning car right outside your house.”

Although political leadership was criticised as lacking, that allowed doctors and medical experts to come to the fore — typically seen as a best practice in managing public health emergencies. “You could say that Japan has had an expert-led approach, unlike other countries,” Tanaka said.

Experts are also credited with creating an easy-to-understand message of avoiding what are called the “Three C’s” — closed spaces, crowded spaces and close-contact settings — rather than keeping away from others entirely.

“Social distancing may work, but it doesn’t really help to continue normal social life,” said Hokkaido University’s Suzuki. “The ‘Three C’s’ are a much more pragmatic approach and very effective, while having a similar effect.”

Different Strain

Infectious disease experts also pointed to other determinants, with Shigeru Omi, the deputy head of the expert panel advising the Japanese government and a former chief of the WHO Western Pacific office, citing Japanese people’s health consciousness as possibly the most important factor.

The possibility that the virus strain spreading in Japan may have been different, and less dangerous, to that faced by other nations, has also been raised.

Researchers at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the US studied coronavirus variants in a database and found one strain of the virus spreading through Europe that had several mutations distinguishing it from the Asian version, according to a paper put in early May.

Although the study has not been peer-reviewed and drawn some criticism, the findings point to a need to more thoroughly study how the virus changes.

Large questions still remain over the true extent of the pathogen’s spread. In April, a Tokyo hospital conducted tests on a handful of non-Covid patients and found that around 7% had the coronavirus, showing the danger of missing asymptomatic or mild carriers that can become the source of an outbreak.

An antibody test on 500 people in the capital suggested the true outbreak could be nearly 20 times larger than figures have shown. Analogue contact tracing breaks down when infection numbers are high, and reports of people unable to get tested or even medical treatment for Covid-like symptoms peppered social media during the height of the outbreak.

And the fact remains that Japan’s response was less than perfect. While the overall population is much smaller, Asian neighbours such as Taiwan had just seven confirmed deaths from the virus, while Vietnam had none.

“You can’t say the Japan response was amazing,” said Norio Sugaya, a visiting professor at Keio University’s School of Medicine in Tokyo and a member of a World Health Organization panel advising on pandemic influenza. “If you look at the other Asian countries, they all had a death rate that was about 1/100th of Western countries.”

Buying Time

While Japan may have avoided the worst of the health outcomes, the loose lockdown hasn’t protected the country from the economic impact. Its economy, already dealing with the impact of a sales tax hike in October, officially slid into recession in the first three months of the year.

Economists have warned the second quarter will be the worst on record, and the specter of deflation, which haunted the economy for decades, once again looms. Tourist numbers plummeted 99.9% in April after the country shut its borders, putting the brakes on a booming industry that had promised to be a growth driver for years. As in other countries, bankruptcies have risen sharply.

Even with the end of the state of emergency in sight, authorities are warning that life will not return to normal. When case numbers slowed in early March, there was public optimism that the worst was over — only for cases to spike again and trigger the emergency declaration.

If a deadlier second wave does follow, the risk factor in Japan, which has the world’s oldest population, remains high. The country has speedily approved Gilead Sciences’ remdesivir and is now scrambling to allow the use of still unproven Fujifilm antiviral Avigan. There are calls for the country to use the time it has bought itself to shore up its testing and learn in the way its neighbours did from Sars and Mers.

Officials have begun to speak of a phase in which people “live with the virus”, with a recognition that Japan’s approach has no possibility of wiping out the pathogen.

“We have to assume that the second wave could be much worse than the first wave and prepare for it,” said Yoshihito Niki, a professor of infectious diseases at Showa University’s School of Medicine. “If the next explosion of cases is worse, the medical system will break down.”

Ahh contract tracing. Imagine if we had did that and the lockdowns earlier. We wouldn't even be having these conversations right now with the screeching autist tholdren.

[TimDunkem]

I didn't lie. He said lockdowns were necessary or the virus would essentially be out of control.
.. Many places prove him and you wrong. ....

He also said enemy list, which is textbook Karen

There are only a certain few you reply to whether you agree with them or not. It's obvious you have one.

[tholdren]

Ahh contract tracing. Imagine if we had did that and the lockdowns earlier. We wouldn't even be having these conversations right now with the screeching autist tholdren.
Lol you must not had read this.... Japan’s approach has no possibility of wiping out the pathogen.

Bwahahaha you don't even understand what you quoted because of your emotional...... meltdown. Hahahahhah enemy list

[tholdren]

There are only a certain few you reply to whether you agree with them or not. It's obvious you have one.
Only dumbest of the Karens..... look at you so worked up. Becauae you were Wrong about lockdowns. But tell us more about exponential growth...of this or other seasonal viruses.... bwahahahhah

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't lie. He said lockdowns were necessary or the virus would essentially be out of control.
.. Many places prove him and you wrong. ....Now you're lying about what you said he said.

Why do you lie?

[tholdren]

Now you're lying about what you said he said.

Why do you lie?

f5f5f5f5f5

[tholdren]

Ahh contract tracing. Imagine if we had did that and the lockdowns earlier. We wouldn't even be having these conversations right now with the screeching autist tholdren.

Here you go karen....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/21/japans-response-coronavirus-is-slow-motion-train-wreck/#click=https://t.co/IbeknE7Pq0

[boutons_deux]

Ahh contract tracing. Imagine if we had did that and the lockdowns earlier. We wouldn't even be having these conversations right now with the screeching autist tholdren.

Imagine if Trash had obeyed multiple warnings and SECRETLY started the govt preparing in December for the inevitable Trump-made Trump Pandemic.

[tholdren]

Imagine if Trash had obeyed multiple warnings and SECRETLY started the govt preparing in December for the inevitable Trump-made Trump Pandemic.
Too quick to hit that trigger or too dumb to read.. from the article...

Having botched that initial response, health officials appear to have gotten it wrong again by letting people return home without placing them in proper quarantine facilities.

[ChumpDumper]

f5f5f5f5f5Now you're trying to change the subject.

Why do you lie?

[tholdren]

Now you're trying to change the subject.

Why do you lie?
You must have missed the above posts. I gave you one from the Washington post who has your same opinions and disregard for science. This was their opinion of Japan several weeks ago.

Speaking of that. Whatever happened to that Colorado restaurant that was packed on mothers day. Didn't you say you wanted to wait 2 weeks.... nows your time....

Karen

[ChumpDumper]

You must have missed the above posts. I gave you one from the Washington post who has your same opinions and disregard for science. This was their opinion of Japan several weeks ago. :lol you mean over three months ago.

:lmao dumbass Karen

[tholdren]

:lol you mean months.

:lmao dumbass Karen

bwahahahja thats what you got out of it? Typical Karen correcting grammar when there's no way out.

[TimDunkem]

Only dumbest of the Karens..... look at you so worked up. Becauae you were Wrong about lockdowns. But tell us more about exponential growth...of this or other seasonal viruses.... bwahahahhah

Look at my post and yours.

Who is worked up?

[TimDunkem]

bwahahahja thats what you got out of it? Typical Karen correcting grammar when there's no way out.

F5F5F5F5

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahahja thats what you got out of it?:rollin you tried to say Feb. 21 was "a few weeks ago" like it was earlier this month.

:lmao Karen

[tholdren]

Look at my post and yours.

Who is worked up?

Bwahahhaha you can't read either. Keep proving science wrong karen.

But but but the lockdowns..

Cry cry cry

[ChumpDumper]

Bwahahhaha you can't read either. Keep proving science wrong karen.

But but but the lockdowns..

Cry cry cryBwahahhaha a few weeks ago.

But but but the February op-ed..

Cry cry cry Karen

[tholdren]

There are only a certain few you reply to whether you agree with them or not. It's obvious you have one.
Scary you know what I do.
Tell me more about asymptomatic spread....

[baseline bum]

Thread, dinner time.

Update (24 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 99,268
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[DMC]

I thought we hit 100K. What happened, some people get resurrected?

[tholdren]

Thread, dinner time.

Update (24 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 99,268
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Lol not even legit numbers how dumb.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol not even legit numbers how dumb.What should the COVID-19 number be now?

[DMC]

What should the COVID-19 number be now?

NOW he wants an actual number. Now.

[ChumpDumper]

NOW he wants an actual number. Now.I've been asking this as long as you guys have been saying the number is wrong.

You never answered.

Do you have an answer now?

[DMC]

I've been asking this as long as you guys have been saying the number is wrong.

You never answered.

Do you have an answer now?
:lmao

I challenged you to provide a number for acceptable deaths when it was said the current number indicates absolute failure, you never did. Fuck off :lol

Knowing the count is wrong doesn't mean you know the right count. If someone says "we've been counting all deaths as covid deaths" then you should conclude the count is wrong because you already know the method was wrong.

:lol needing this shit explained to you like a child

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

I challenged you to provide a number for acceptable deaths when it was said the current number indicates absolute failure, you never did. Fuck off :lolYeah, you changed the subject.

Just say you don't have a number and never will. It won't kill you, will it?

[DMC]

Yeah, you changed the subject.

Just say you don't have a number and never will. It won't kill you, will it?

Do you have a number to compare my number to to know it's right or wrong?

:lol Mouse level shit trolling

[ChumpDumper]

Do you have a number to compare my number to to know it's right or wrong?You're answering a question with another question.

If you don't have a number yourself, that's fine. Just say so. You can leave it there.

[DMC]

You're answering a question with another question.

If you don't have a number yourself, that's fine. Just say so. You can leave it there.

Goddamn you hit F5 every second, are you running a script?

No way in hell you even read the shit you're responding to.

[tholdren]

:lmao

I challenged you to provide a number for acceptable deaths when it was said the current number indicates absolute failure, you never did. Fuck off :lol

Knowing the count is wrong doesn't mean you know the right count. If someone says "we've been counting all deaths as covid deaths" then you should conclude the count is wrong because you already know the method was wrong.

:lol needing this shit explained to you like a child
He can't. If he would have read anything that I have responded with he would understand that the cdc has so many errors in data collection and presentation that he can't prove that it works. But its easily proven it doesn't enter wuhan. Enter non locked down states. He's not smart.

[ElNono]

:lol yeah I wouldn't want 100k dead on my watch either... the problem is you can't hide the death certificates...

Even Mike Pence's run CDC has 97k 'official' numbers. What a shitshow.

[ChumpDumper]

Goddamn you hit F5 every second, are you running a script?

No way in hell you even read the shit you're responding to.Do you have a different number or not?

This is all it comes down to.

[ChumpDumper]

He can't. If he would have read anything that I have responded with he would understand that the cdc has so many errors in data collection and presentation that he can't prove that it works. But its easily proven it doesn't enter wuhan. Enter non locked down states. He's not smart.Do you have a different number?

[tholdren]

Do you have a different number?
A different number of what?

[ChumpDumper]

A different number of what?A different number of US deaths attributed to COVID-19 outside the 97k-100k range being currently reported.

What is your number?

[tholdren]

A different number of US deaths attributed to COVID-19 outside the 97k-100k range being currently reported.

What is your number?

First of all you asked me for a number, now your putting the cdc numbers into a range which means you're actually getting a clue and are understanding that these numbers are completely unreliable.

Next, I shold only have to say icfr. And then you should say, if you knew what that meant, wow the lockdown was not a good idea.

[ChumpDumper]

First of all you asked me for a number, now your putting the cdc numbers into a range which means you're actually getting a clue and are understanding that these numbers are completely unreliable.

Next, I shold only have to say icfr. And then you should say, if you knew what that meant, wow the lockdown was not a good idea.Next, you should just answer the question by posting your number and the link to your science.

You won't.

Good talk.

[tholdren]

Icfr .26%

[ChumpDumper]

Icfr .26%Here's what I asked for:

A different number of US deaths attributed to COVID-19 outside the 97k-100k range being currently reported.

What is your number?

If you can't do it, just say so.

[baseline bum]

Looks like cubby dodged 100k today

Update (25 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 99,805
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[clambake]

Looks like cubby dodged 100k today

Update (25 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 99,805
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

He was supposed to strip naked in Phoenix at the 20k mark

I think we’re all glad he lied about that

[baseline bum]

He was supposed to strip naked in Phoenix at the 20k mark

I think we’re all glad he lied about that

At 100k he should have to strip naked in San Francisco

[DMC]

:lol yeah I wouldn't want 100k dead on my watch either... the problem is you can't hide the death certificates...

Even Mike Pence's run CDC has 97k 'official' numbers. What a shitshow.

Imagine how Cuomo must feel. Watched his presser, he said a bunch of incorrect shit and the media treated him like a teddy bear.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol WHATABOUTMUHCUOMO?

[clambake]

Imagine how Cuomo must feel. Watched his presser, he said a bunch of incorrect shit and the media treated him like a teddy bear.

I’m certain he feels bad, man cow

He didn’t have the luxury of knowing tan in a can man was hiding this, man cow

[clambake]

Fat cheap fuck still talking shit

[tholdren]

:lol WHATABOUTMUHCUOMO?
Asked about New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's decision in March to follow Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance to direct nursing homes not to turn away Covid-19 patients, Parkinson called the prediction that hospitals would be overrun "an error."

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren

[clambake]

th:lolldren

It should be throating instead

[ElNono]

Imagine how Cuomo must feel. Watched his presser, he said a bunch of incorrect shit and the media treated him like a teddy bear.

Cuomo can't feel good either. Very few can. CA, Oregon, Washington...

[horseshue]

It's official, 100k per worldometers. He has done it.

[RandomGuy]

Goddamn you hit F5 every second, are you running a script?

No way in hell you even read the shit you're responding to.

That doesn't look like a number or any kind of methodology. It is almost as if you don't have one.

I think I will stick with having a method for getting to a reasonable count of morbidity, as opposed to your non-method.

[RandomGuy]

I didn't lie. He said lockdowns were necessary or the virus would essentially be out of control.
.. Many places prove him and you wrong. ....

He also said enemy list, which is textbook Karen

Which places "prove him wrong"?

[RandomGuy]

Lololil



WRONG

like Sweden and Japan.

Anti science karen


Bwahahaha

Sweden didn't lock down. They got a huge spike relative to their neighbors that did, now they are locked down just like everybody else.

[tholdren]

Sweden didn't lock down. They got a huge spike relative to their neighbors that did, now they are locked down just like everybody else.
Link to lockdown?

[tholdren]

Sweden didn't lock down. They got a huge spike relative to their neighbors that did, now they are locked down just like everybody else.

I didn't know they are locked down. Please show me the link where you received your information.

[DMC]

I’m certain he feels bad, man cow

He didn’t have the luxury of knowing tan in a can man was hiding this, man cow

:lol Cuomo didn't have luxury?

[DMC]

Cuomo can't feel good either. Very few can. CA, Oregon, Washington...
Not even remotely the same. 25000 deaths in one compared to the other what's the percentage?

[DMC]

It should be throating instead

You should be clownflake.

[clambake]

You should be clownflake.

You just hate science because it hasn’t invented the quadruple x lap band.

[DMC]

You just hate science because it hasn’t invented the quadruple x lap band.

More of the same false narratives from clown.

[clambake]

More of the same false narratives from clown.

Thanks for the evidence, gravy boat

[tholdren]

I didn't know they are locked down. Please show me the link where you received your information.

So they aren't locked down is what you meant to say?

[baseline bum]

Update (26 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 100,504
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[Xevious]

Even if the numbers are inaccurate like many people are claiming, that's still a lot of fucking people.

[hater]

damn and Brazil might get 100-300k dead by August 4 :wow

[baseline bum]

damn and Brazil might get 100-300k dead by August 4 :wow

You think they'll ever catch up to us?

[baseline bum]

.

[hater]

You think they'll ever catch up to us?

well they are not hitting the apex yet and their president just said masks and social distqncing are fucking stupid :lol

so yeah I think they overtake us

its gonna be a race

I think both nations will be close to 200k by august

[baseline bum]

well they are not hitting the apex yet and their president just said masks and social distqncing are fucking stupid :lol

so yeah I think they overtake us

its gonna be a race

I think both nations will be close to 200k by august

I don't know why anyone would think we've hit the apex though. And people are largely ditching the masks in the US too.

[DarrinS]

I don't know why anyone would think we've hit the apex though. And people are largely ditching the masks in the US too.

We peaked in mid-April

[baseline bum]

We peaked in mid-April

No way we're close to 40%-70% infection we'd need to begin to think of this burning itself out though.

[ChumpDumper]

No way we're close to 40%-70% infection we'd need to begin to think of this burning itself out though.I guess we can hope it really is seasonal.

[DarrinS]

No way we're close to 40%-70% infection we'd need to begin to think of this burning itself out though.

Probably not near herd immunity levels -- I agree. I was talking more in terms of deaths per day.

[tholdren]

I guess we can hope it really is seasonal.

Lol I guess we can hope.... bwahahahaahhah

[baseline bum]

Probably not near herd immunity levels -- I agree. I was talking more in terms of deaths per day.

If it's seasonal we're probably going to blast through those April numbers for deaths per day this fall/winter though if that Oxford vaccine fails and / or isn't available yet to the general public.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol I guess we can hope.... bwahahahaahhahTrump said it would be gone over a month ago.

Was he wrong?

[tholdren]

Trump said it would be gone over a month ago.

Was he wrong?

you said kansas. You were

[ChumpDumper]

you:lol change of subject
:lmao scientific defense of Trump
:lmao your loss

[tholdren]

I guess we can hope it really is seasonal.

Bwajahahahahahha these two. Bwahahahahahah hopefully its seasonal hahahahha

[ChumpDumper]

Bwajahahahahahha these two. Bwahahahahahah hopefully its seasonal hahahahha:lmao you said it's the flu
:lmao because you're a scientist
:lmao your loss

[hater]

No way we're close to 40%-70% infection we'd need to begin to think of this burning itself out though.

we are lucky if we are at 10% infection nationwide.

Id say we are at around 5% infection

we still have about 65% of population to go before we can talk about the bullshit herd immunity which is a myth

the 2nd wqve is going to make the first wave look like a picnic at lake Cucamonga

but the 2nd wave will come after august tbqh

and no

we are not getting a vaccine until next summer. and even then, 45%+ of americans wont take it


hell, half of family/friends I spoke to will never take a vaccine :lol

the vaccine myth is a bigger myth than the easter bunny and santa

[tholdren]

The US CDC found that Covid-19 hospitalization rates for people aged 65 and over are “within ranges of influenza hospitalization rates”, with rates slightly higher for people aged 18 to 64 and “much lower” (compared to influenza) for people under 18.

In local hotspots like New York City, the overall hospitalization rate based on antibody studies is about 2.5% (19.9% or 1.7 million people with antibodies and 43,000 hospitalizations by May 2).

The much lower than expected hospitalization rate may explain why most Covid-19 ‘field hospitals’ even in hard-hit countries like the US, the UK and China remained largely empty.

8) Percentage of Covid-19 deaths in care homes per country

In many countries, deaths in care homes account for 30 to 60% of all additional deaths. In Canada and some US states, care homes account for up to 80% of all “Covid19-related” deaths.

[boutons_deux]

avg of 1000 deaths / day for 3 months so far

with imbecilic red/slave states stopping social-distancing, assume a plateau of 5 months x 750 deaths /day until the election.

that's about another 100K dead, or

200K dead as Trash campaigns in, tattooed forever by, the Trump Pandemic

[Brazil]

well they are not hitting the apex yet and their president just said masks and social distqncing are fucking stupid :lol

so yeah I think they overtake us

its gonna be a race

I think both nations will be close to 200k by august

It's gonna be indeed a race between basically two third world countries with two dumb fucks presidents.. I believe my boy Bolso will take this one tho

[tholdren]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/japan-ends-its-covid-19-state-emergency?utm_campaign=news_daily_2020-05-26&et_rid=687438071&et_cid=3340566

[BSfromTX]

It can't be both ways. It can't be highly communicable AND only be less than 50%. Media and politicians are milking this thing for all its worth. Yes, there will probably be a second wave and a third and a fourth until we have next boogie man.

[tholdren]

It can't be both ways. It can't be highly communicable AND only be less than 50%. Media and politicians are milking this thing for all its worth. Yes, there will probably be a second wave and a third and a fourth until we have next boogie man.

You're right. It can't be highly communicable and limited prevalence. That was the whole issue of lockdowns. That and demo. Its seasonal. ChumpDumper will be all about Karening come October.

Unless there is an inequality rally, then he will say coronavirus doesn't spread during those. Its known to only spread in republican states or conventions, whichever is more convenient....

[baseline bum]

Update (27 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 102,107
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[TSA]

Update (27 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 102,107
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Cuomo needs to added to this if you’re going to try and scoreboard everyone tbh

[spurraider21]

Cuomo needs to added to this if you’re going to try and scoreboard everyone tbh
see post 1 of this thread

[baseline bum]

Cuomo needs to added to this if you’re going to try and scoreboard everyone tbh

Scoreboarding cubby

[TSA]

see post 1 of this thread

OP was months before Cuomo reversed course on sending Covid to the nursing homes to kill all the elderly. Cuomo needs to added to this if you’re going to try and scoreboard everyone tbh.

[ElNono]

OP was months before Cuomo reversed course on sending Covid to the nursing homes to kill all the elderly.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

ChumpDumper :lol

[TSA]

:lol

In the name of fact checking I must correct myself. Cuomo’s order to kill the elderly came 2 days after OP.

https://mobile.twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1265818103075790848

Would make for a much tighter race. Cuomo gets NY and Trump gets the rest of the USA.

[ElNono]

In the name of fact checking I must correct myself. Cuomo’s order to kill the elderly came 2 days after OP.

Would make for a much tighter race. Cuomo gets NY and Trump gets the rest of the USA.

Except that Cuomo didn't "send Covid" anywhere, and Cuomo, much like the rest of the States, were on their own to respond to this pandemic.

I do agree with you that he botched a number of things, like the ventilator stockpile, and he bears some responsibility for that.

But this isn't really a line of argument you want to follow. Cuomo's failure is as much attributable to him as it is to the federal government, that allowed it to happen. They were the backup in case States didn't/couldn't respond, and still botched it.

[clambake]

Trump hid this for months.

He doesn’t care about you.

[TSA]

Except that Cuomo didn't "send Covid" anywhere, and Cuomo, much like the rest of the States, were on their own to respond to this pandemic.

I do agree with you that he botched a number of things, like the ventilator stockpile, and he bears some responsibility for that.

But this isn't really a line of argument you want to follow. Cuomo's failure is as much attributable to him as it is to the federal government, that allowed it to happen. They were the backup in case States didn't/couldn't respond, and still botched it.

WTF?!?! :lol Cuomo’s mistake you point out is the ventilators and not him forcing Covid patients into nursing homes? What the fuck did the federal government have to do with Cuomo making that decision when he had the empty USNS docked off his shored and was sending patients to nursing homes instead of there, even as nursing home directors pleaded with him to send them to the Comfort. Explain how that’s equally attributable to the fed.

[ElNono]

WTF?!?! :lol Cuomo’s mistake you point out is the ventilators and not him forcing Covid patients into nursing homes? What the fuck did the federal government have to do with Cuomo making that decision when he had the empty USNS docked off his shored and was sending patients to nursing homes instead of there, even as nursing home directors pleaded with him to send them to the Comfort. Explain how that’s equally attributable to the fed.

They couldn't send them directly, they still needed to send them through a hospital. see:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-yorks-nursing-homes-ship-empty/

And that doesn't mean he "sent covid to nursing homes" :lol These were supposed to be recovered patients. Now, I'm not going to defend Cuomo's order. I think it was misguided too, and I'm glad he reverted it.

That said, the overall lack of PPE, equipment, testing, etc was absolutely inexcusable and that falls directly on both Cuomo and the fed.

[TSA]

They couldn't send them directly, they still needed to send them through a hospital. see:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-yorks-nursing-homes-ship-empty/

And that doesn't mean he "sent covid to nursing homes" :lol These were supposed to be recovered patients. Now, I'm not going to defend Cuomo's order. I think it was misguided too, and I'm glad he reverted it.

That said, the overall lack of PPE, equipment, testing, etc was absolutely inexcusable and that falls directly on both Cuomo and the fed.

“What's True:
Due to a March 25, 2020, New York state directive, recovering COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals and sent to nursing homes. USNS Comfort, a hospital ship, was sent to New York City that month to aid the city's hospitals, but the ship's resources were underused.“

:lol glad he reverted it? How many were left to kill?

And he most definitely sent Covid to nursing homes as his directive specifically said patients could not be refused if they tested positive.

[TSA]

“What's True:
Due to a March 25, 2020, New York state directive, recovering COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals and sent to nursing homes. USNS Comfort, a hospital ship, was sent to New York City that month to aid the city's hospitals, but the ship's resources were underused.“

:lol glad he reverted it? How many were left to kill?

And he most definitely sent Covid to nursing homes as his directive specifically said patients could not be refused if they tested positive.

That said, the overall lack of PPE, equipment, and testing caused no where near the amount of deaths as Cuomo’s nursing home orders.

[hater]

Lol

The hospital ship was a marketing hype bs move

A terrible idea. First they said it would be used by non covids then for copies. But immediately some sailors got infected and they bailed :lmao

[hater]

Did Cuomo really scrub his website from his order?

Then he's really another piece of shit just like Orangegutan and just like his stupid brother fredo

[DMC]

That said, the overall lack of PPE, equipment, and testing caused no where near the amount of deaths as Cuomo’s nursing home orders.

The amount of deflection to avoid that fact is staggering. "Ya but, ya but... ya but.. I said something about Cuomo dithering but Trump... and the disinfectant injections, that killed people! Trump hid this! Cuomo did as good as he could under the circumstances, but Trump, corrupt! Russia! disinfectant! Golf! yeah yeah 25K deaths in NY but Trump... Twitter! medications! fish tank cleaner! Trump!"

[ElNono]

“What's True:
Due to a March 25, 2020, New York state directive, recovering COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals and sent to nursing homes. USNS Comfort, a hospital ship, was sent to New York City that month to aid the city's hospitals, but the ship's resources were underused.“


Ah, don't forget:

On top of its strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship.
Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort; they must first deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation — including a test for the virus — and then pick them up again for transport to the ship.

that's why I put the link, so everybody can read the whole thing and there's no confusion about selective quoting.

And yes, eventually the ship was reconfigured to take in covid patients, only to have the first personnel infected the same day.


:lol glad he reverted it? How many were left to kill?

And he most definitely sent Covid to nursing homes as his directive specifically said patients could not be refused if they tested positive.

My understanding is that the order specifically said they couldn't be denied re-admission for that, but that was under the premise that these nursing homes were following the covid directives of distancing, etc.
But, again, I'm not going to disagree with you that it was a bad, poorly thought out order.


That said, the overall lack of PPE, equipment, and testing caused no where near the amount of deaths as Cuomo’s nursing home orders.

The average numbers for that are an additional 5k deaths. That puts it at 16%. Let's say 20%. Yeah, not even close.

Not to mention that whenever a professional gets sick or dies due to the virus, it puts even more pressure on a limited pool. We should be thankful that a number of doctors flew selflessly from around the country to help.

[ElNono]

The amount of deflection to avoid that fact is staggering. "Ya but, ya but... ya but.. I said something about Cuomo dithering but Trump... and the disinfectant injections, that killed people! Trump hid this! Cuomo did as good as he could under the circumstances, but Trump, corrupt! Russia! disinfectant! Golf! yeah yeah 25K deaths in NY but Trump... Twitter! medications! fish tank cleaner! Trump!"

What deflection from what fact?

[DMC]

What deflection from what fact?

That the governor of NY makes the decisions that affect the lives of people of NY, and the POTUS doesn't make decisions for NY in that capacity. If Texas had 25K dead the governor would be called everything but a white man.

[ElNono]

That the governor of NY makes the decisions that affect the lives of people of NY, and the POTUS doesn't make decisions for NY in that capacity. If Texas had 25K dead the governor would be called everything but a white man.

And that's why I pointed out that Cuomo bears some of his own responsibility. That said, it's inescapable that when the governor fails, then the federal government steps in. If there's still failure you can't divorce both from it.

[spurraider21]

And that's why I pointed out that Cuomo bears some of his own responsibility. That said, it's inescapable that when the governor fails, then the federal government steps in. If there's still failure you can't divorce both from it.
you cant possibly expect him to take that position. he wont be caught dead aligning with chumpdumper on anything

[ElNono]

you cant possibly expect him to take that position. he wont be caught dead aligning with chumpdumper on anything

I have not expectations of anything, tbh, I know better than try to convince team players.

Just pointing out that 'but Cuomo!' is a cop-out, even if we agree (and I think we do), that Cuomo has done a poor job in NY, including questionable decisions. Cuomo definitely has his own cross to bear, but pretending the buck stops there is ridiculous.

There's over 100k people dead, and NY, despite being the worst place on the pandemic so far, is really not even a 3rd of the total.

[pgardn]

Under counting:

https://apple.news/AMb4rtlXRRXKypUKp5JGQMQ

[tholdren]

They couldn't send them directly, they still needed to send them through a hospital. see:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-yorks-nursing-homes-ship-empty/

And that doesn't mean he "sent covid to nursing homes" :lol These were supposed to be recovered patients. Now, I'm not going to defend Cuomo's order. I think it was misguided too, and I'm glad he reverted it.

That said, the overall lack of PPE, equipment, testing, etc was absolutely inexcusable and that falls directly on both Cuomo and the fed.

Brush it under the rug. The chances of covid death under 40 is less than flu. Post count boy

[tholdren]

Under counting:

https://apple.news/AMb4rtlXRRXKypUKp5JGQMQ
LololI'llolololo

Wrong

[pgardn]

LololI'llolololo

Wrong

explain

[apalisoc_9]

Under counting:

https://apple.news/AMb4rtlXRRXKypUKp5JGQMQ

known

[TimDunkem]

That's right!

Yep, good times. Life has changed too much since then.

Get back in here and stop avoiding this thread like the Trump Corona Plague. It's time to eat!

Trump Corona Plague dead: 102,248
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[tholdren]

Get back in here and stop avoiding this thread like the Trump Corona Plague. It's time to eat!

Trump Corona Plague dead: 102,248
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Wrong

[ChumpDumper]

WrongWhat's your number of dead then?

[tholdren]

What's your number of dead then?

Tell us more about the lockdown science. Lol you

[ChumpDumper]

Tell us more about the lockdown science. Lol youTell us what your number of dead is. lol you

[pgardn]

Tell us more about the lockdown science. Lol you

Dont use the word science, batter for brains.
You dont have a clue.

[DMC]

Dont use the word science, batter for brains.
You dont have a clue.

You still stroking your e-peen and self validating your takes while slinging juvenile insults at others like a monkey slinging shit?

[DMC]

Tell us more about the lockdown science. Lol you

If you don't have an alternative number then any number suggested by a source must by default be true.

So my number is 400 billion people have died. if that seems unlikely, then you must have the actual number. Clock is ticking.

[tholdren]

Dont use the word science, batter for brains.
You dont have a clue.

Wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

If you don't have an alternative number then any number suggested by a source must by default be true.

So my number is 400 billion people have died. if that seems unlikely, then you must have the actual number. Clock is ticking. Nope. Just say you don't have a number. I don't know why you always have to melt down when you can't be honest.

[tholdren]

Nope. Just say you don't have a number. I don't know why you always have to melt down when you can't be honest.

Minnesota going to get it bad now, or do you have excuses?

[RandomGuy]

Lol not even legit numbers how dumb.

Why are the current counts not valid?

Haven't seen you actually justify that claim yet. Thumbed through a few pages, and didn't see any links to anything that resembles evidence.

Please. A link?

[pgardn]

You still stroking your e-peen and self validating your takes while slinging juvenile insults at others like a monkey slinging shit?

Says the guy who sells INSTRUMENTS of science and uses me to validate that other posters are wrong? Why would you do that, I know nothing...?
You asked for it old man.
If you need to continue the last discussion I can make you look worse.
And looks are everything for you on this board.

If you remember, it started with me saying the virus looks like a really good target for a vaccine from a molecular point of view and giving an article.
You REALLY want to keep discussing that? Or you want to get pounded while you have a window open so you can read about ELISA?
Be careful, you dont like getting embarrassed.

[pgardn]

Wrong.

Tell us about models again.
That was fun.

[DarrinS]

Why are the current counts not valid?

Haven't seen you actually justify that claim yet. Thumbed through a few pages, and didn't see any links to anything that resembles evidence.

Please. A link?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/29/us_covid-19_death_toll_is_inflated.html

[baseline bum]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/29/us_covid-19_death_toll_is_inflated.html

What a load of right-wing horseshit. Yeah it's a bunch of suicides and car wrecks getting blamed on COVID and this is just really the flu like Trump said. :rollin

[DMC]

Says the guy who sells INSTRUMENTS of science and uses me to validate that other posters are wrong? Why would you do that, I know nothing...?
You asked for it old man.
If you need to continue the last discussion I can make you look worse.
And looks are everything for you on this board.

If you remember, it started with me saying the virus looks like a really good target for a vaccine from a molecular point of view and giving an article.
You REALLY want to keep discussing that? Or you want to get pounded while you have a window open so you can read about ELISA?
Be careful, you dont like getting embarrassed.

:lol you keep spinning the wheel of guesses and coming up empty. I don't sell anything.
:lol I haven't read a single thing about ELISA since you started yapping, except that you said you developed it.
:lol You suck at this.

[DarrinS]

What a load of right-wing horseshit. Yeah it's a bunch of suicides and car wrecks getting blamed on COVID and this is just really the flu like Trump said. :rollin

Dying with covid-19 <> dying from covid-19

[baseline bum]

Dying with covid-19 <> dying from covid-19

So in a typical 2 month timespan in the US 6,000 people die in car wrecks. How many people died in car wrecks in the two months and were called COVID deaths? About 8,000 Americans kill themselves every two months. How many of those suicides were marked COVID deaths? Let's say they all were. So 84,000 real COVID deaths in two months makes it the flu?

[spurraider21]

So in a typical 2 month timespan in the US 6,000 people die in car wrecks. How many people died in car wrecks in the two months and were called COVID deaths? About 8,000 Americans kill themselves every two months. How many of those suicides were marked COVID deaths? Let's say they all were. So 84,000 real COVID deaths in two months makes it the flu?
and thats with the extreme step of shutting down most businesses, social distancing, etc, something we dont do for the flu

[RandomGuy]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/29/us_covid-19_death_toll_is_inflated.html

Thank you.

So, some internet commentary that got the mortality rate wrong from their source material, with no supporting science that quantifies their assertions to any reasonable degree. Anything else?

We already knew the death rate was in the magnitude of .0066, which is pretty close to the .007 (rouding maybe)what the WHO estimated for western countries.

The "best guess" for the source article puts it at .004, with a 3.4% hospitalization ratio.

300000/3.4= 8,823,529 people can have the disease in the US as confirmed cases before all hospital beds are filled nationally.

We are at about 1.6M I think. (1.7 minus 100k recovered). so we are still ok as far as healthcare capacity.

[RandomGuy]

Dying with covid-19 <> dying from covid-19

The problem with that though... is how do you explain the sudden spike in total dealths? the "excess" deaths.

Your implication here that unrelated deaths implies that there is some causation was assumed where there was merely correlation.

Death rates are remarkably constant over long periods.

If for the last 10 years, average monthly deaths for March, April, and May, all fall within a pretty narrow band, and you suddenly have a huge spike during a pandemic, with no other discernible causes, is it not logical to assume causation?

[tholdren]

Thank you.

So, some internet commentary that got the mortality rate wrong from their source material, with no supporting science that quantifies their assertions to any reasonable degree. Anything else?

We already knew the death rate was in the magnitude of .0066, which is pretty close to the .007 (rouding maybe)what the WHO estimated for western countries.

The "best guess" for the source article puts it at .004, with a 3.4% hospitalization ratio.

300000/3.4= 8,823,529 people can have the disease in the US as confirmed cases before all hospital beds are filled nationally.

We are at about 1.6M I think. (1.7 minus 100k recovered). so we are still ok as far as healthcare capacity.

Its less that .03 but keep going. You dont understand the data. The whole month has been decline in fatality and hospitalization percent. State reporting and cdc all fatalities data sets. Youve been duped. Admit it.

[RandomGuy]

2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/Death-rate

.0088 for the year, by the end of the year.

2904000 dead from all causes, before COVID.

200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

+250k.... divide by 330M...

End of year figure will be around .0096

There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

At about that rate or above, you have been deeply mislead by the propaganda you consume.

It is just that simple.

[RandomGuy]

Its less that .03 but keep going. You dont understand the data. The whole month has been decline in fatality and hospitalization percent. State reporting and cdc all fatalities data sets. Youve been duped. Admit it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

CDC best guess is 3.4%

I will assume they are roughly correct, unless you have better information.

(edit) Feel free to provide better data. I work in insurance and am very good with statistics, with access to actuaries who have specialized degrees and multiple levels of professional certification in it. I ask them questions if I need to understand anything involving the math. It is a mistake on your part, generally, to assume I do not understand any given math.

[tholdren]

2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/Death-rate

.0088 for the year, by the end of the year.

2904000 dead from all causes, before COVID.

200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

+250k.... divide by 330M...

End of year figure will be around .0096

There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

At about that rate or above, you have been deeply mislead by the propaganda you consume.

It is just that simple.

Wrong

[RandomGuy]

Wrong

(shrugs)

if so, then show how.

Or wave your hands some more, and stomp your feet. That will really show me. Change the subject when confronted is always a winning strategy. You know you want to. Go on, Conservative Avenger.

(folds arms, leans on wall with expectant look)

[tholdren]

(shrugs)

if so, then show how.

Or wave your hands some more, and stomp your feet. That will really show me. Change the subject when confronted is always a winning strategy. You know you want to. Go on, Conservative Avenger.

(folds arms, leans on wall with expectant look)

Its under .03.

[RandomGuy]

Its under .03.

Hand-waving. If you could reasonably justify it, you would have.

Kid, I've been debating on the internet since there has been an internet. You are nothing new.

People like you hop yourself up, mainlining conservative propaganda that tells you over and over how dumb liberals are, and how smart you and your ideology is.

You get super high on this bullshit bong, then come in here thinking you are Billy Bad Ass, the Conservative Avenger.

Then you meet an actual liberal or two who isn't an idiot. The very first time you have to prove yourself against a skilled opponent, you fail spectacularly.

You fail by making assertions without providing proof.

You fail by not answering questions honestly.

You fail by simply waving away arguments and deflecting.

These are reasoning failures. You do this here repeatedly.

You are the poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect. You have vastly overestimated your abilities relative to mine, and you know it even if you aren't aware of it.

It's ok. I dont expect much from an ideology that punishes critical thinking. I hope someday you de-program yourself, really I do.

[DMC]

Hand-waving. If you could reasonably justify it, you would have.

Kid, I've been debating on the internet since there has been an internet. You are nothing new.

People like you hop yourself up, mainlining conservative propaganda that tells you over and over how dumb liberals are, and how smart you and your ideology is.

You get super high on this bullshit bong, then come in here thinking you are Billy Bad Ass, the Conservative Avenger.

Then you meet an actual liberal or two who isn't an idiot. The very first time you have to prove yourself against a skilled opponent, you fail spectacularly.

You fail by making assertions without providing proof.

You fail by not answering questions honestly.

You fail by simply waving away arguments and deflecting.

These are reasoning failures. You do this here repeatedly.

You are the poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect. You have vastly overestimated your abilities relative to mine, and you know it even if you aren't aware of it.

It's ok. I dont expect much from an ideology that punishes critical thinking. I hope someday you de-program yourself, really I do.

I'm pretty sure that's the only experience you have at any of this.

There's a lot of Wild Cobra running around these days. He must be your daddy.

[RandomGuy]

I'm pretty sure that's the only experience you have at any of this.

There's a lot of Wild Cobra running around these days. He must be your daddy.


You fail by making assertions without providing proof.

You fail by not answering questions honestly.

You fail by simply waving away arguments and deflecting.

These are reasoning failures. You do this here repeatedly.

[pgardn]

:lol you keep spinning the wheel of guesses and coming up empty. I don't sell anything.
:lol I haven't read a single thing about ELISA since you started yapping, except that you said you developed it.
:lol You suck at this.

got the emoticons

yeah I suck at this so bad you don’t want to touch it anymore.
that’s a good thing for you
next time you mouth off about a prediction I make because of an article I have read you might wanna keep your yap shut.

you don’t understand this stuff and that’s OK.
your inability to admit it, that’s on you.

[tholdren]

Tell us about models again.
That was fun.
They were wrong. Its been proven. Next....

[tholdren]

So in a typical 2 month timespan in the US 6,000 people die in car wrecks. How many people died in car wrecks in the two months and were called COVID deaths? About 8,000 Americans kill themselves every two months. How many of those suicides were marked COVID deaths? Let's say they all were. So 84,000 real COVID deaths in two months makes it the flu?

You been had. Facts be facts look at data

[pgardn]

They were wrong. Its been proven. Next....

yes that happens in science.

so now what do you do with the model?
what did we do with newtons simple mathematical models when we found out they made mistakes under certain situations? i’m using physics here because it’s actually much easier easier to make models for.

[tholdren]

yes that happens in science.

so now what do you do with the model?
what did we do with newtons simple mathematical models when we found out they made mistakes under certain situations? i’m using physics here because it’s actually much easier easier to make models for.

stop your gossiping

[baseline bum]

Thread, come get your shit sandwich.

Update (29 May 2020):::
Trump Corona Plague dead: 104,542
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[pgardn]

stop your gossiping

man of science...

ok...

[tholdren]

man of science...

ok...

Would have saved you the embarrassment of being wrong.

[pgardn]

Would have saved you the embarrassment of being wrong.

Concerning what?

Think of something, anything...
Beside that foldren, our man of science, layed the cards down when asked a simple question.

[DMC]

got the emoticons

yeah I suck at this so bad you don’t want to touch it anymore.
that’s a good thing for you
next time you mouth off about a prediction I make because of an article I have read you might wanna keep your yap shut.


That makes absolutely zero sense. Par for you.


you don’t understand this stuff and that’s OK.
your inability to admit it, that’s on you.

You've been saying for months/years that I am afraid of you for some reason yet here I am still responding to you. What exactly do you see that creates this delusion that you've intimidated me? :lol

[DMC]

Concerning what?

Think of something, anything...
Beside that foldren, our man of science, layed the cards down when asked a simple question.

:lmao

[clambake]

:lmaothis guy, when he eats pork he’s a cannibal :lmao:lmao:lmao

[DMC]

this guy, when he eats pork he’s a cannibal :lmao:lmao:lmao

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[clambake]

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Whew, that’s a lot of work there, gravy boat

Better get a snack!

[DMC]

Whew, that’s a lot of work there, gravy boat

Better get a snack!

hurr durr

[pgardn]

That makes absolutely zero sense. Par for you.


You've been saying for months/years that I am afraid of you for some reason yet here I am still responding to you. What exactly do you see that creates this delusion that you've intimidated me? :lol

of course you don’t remember or It doesn’t make sense or it’s word salad

you get in little hissy fights with any member of this board that makes you look bad because you have to have that W
how many times do I need to post this before you get it?



I can aid you in your quest.
do you want me to go back and find the post again and repost it for you?
I think it’s an important part of the whole virus debate. it actually gives us a bit of hope for a vaccine sooner then we might’ve thought.

bottom line is you said some really stupid stuff about things you don’t know but you will never admit that
mass spectrometer.... just throw that out there for the rest of the board so it makes you look like you know what you’re talking about when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Keep going old man

dig that hole Ms Crutchfield

protien -laughing emoticon-

[tholdren]

of course you don’t remember or It doesn’t make sense or it’s word salad

you get in little hissy fights with any member of this board that makes you look bad because you have to have that W
how many times do I need to post this before you get it?



I can aid you in your quest.
do you want me to go back and find the post again and repost it for you?
I think it’s an important part of the whole virus debate. it actually gives us a bit of hope for a vaccine sooner then we might’ve thought.

bottom line is you said some really stupid stuff about things you don’t know but you will never admit that
mass spectrometer.... just throw that out there for the rest of the board so it makes you look like you know what you’re talking about when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Keep going old man

dig that hole Ms Crutchfield

protien -laughing emoticon-

you thought neil furguson was right. Now silent during the riots. Youre not scientific. Just a karen

[DMC]

of course you don’t remember or It doesn’t make sense or it’s word salad (nothing here about finer ELISA points)

you get in little hissy fights with any member of this board that makes you look bad because you have to have that W
how many times do I need to post this before you get it?(nothing here about finer ELISA points)




I can aid you in your quest.
do you want me to go back and find the post again and repost it for you?(nothing here about finer ELISA points)

I think it’s an important part of the whole virus debate. it actually gives us a bit of hope for a vaccine sooner then we might’ve thought.(nothing here about finer ELISA points)


bottom line is you said some really stupid stuff about things you don’t know but you will never admit that(nothing here about finer ELISA points)

mass spectrometer.... just throw that out there for the rest of the board so it makes you look like you know what you’re talking about when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Keep going old man

dig that hole Ms Crutchfield (nothing here about finer ELISA points)


protien -laughing emoticon-

(nothing here about finer ELISA points)


layed :lol

You've typed enough words for a complete dissertation on finer ELISA points, but no, (nothing here about finer ELISA points)

[DMC]

you thought neil furguson was right. Now silent during the riots. Youre not scientific. Just a karen

pgaren

[baseline bum]

Update (30 May 2020):::
Trump Corona Plague dead: 105,557
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[clambake]

Oh my

Poor down Katie

[pgardn]

(nothing here about finer ELISA points)


layed :lol ProtIEn

You've typed enough words for a complete dissertation on finer ELISA points, but no, (nothing here about finer ELISA points)

thats not the original post, it figures you would pick a spot that you think is going to make you look better but it still illustrates loads of lack of understanding.

Thats the post you that came after it and I did begin to discuss the finer points of that when you just blurt out wells on a plate like thats a big deal.
All that does is increase the number of tests you can run, it has nothing to do with the technology of HOW the complex needs to be put together so some sort of change takes place that CAN be measured with precision. You want to explain this? DMCuck "Uhhhh MASS SPECTROMETER, UHHH TRACER!"

You dont know this stuff. I know you dont, and you know you dont. Just admit it old man. You sell an INSTRUMENT but you have no idea what went into making it work properly. The very basics that allow mass testing. NOT oh hell, just make a bunch of wells...

Ms Cructhfield backing into the comfort of spelling. How but my adding Ms Crutchfield? hows it looking?

What a joke. Just like your orange god "I know more than generals, they are a bunch of idiots" while you tap out due to bone spurs in your brain

[baseline bum]

Oh my

Poor down Katie

Thread man, you gonna let clammy make fun of your domestic violence?

[pgardn]

you thought neil furguson was right. Now silent during the riots. Youre not scientific. Just a karen

Show me where I have one post with that name in it.
You wont find it.

Silent during the riots...

I have a friend who moved to up town Minneapolis who I just talked to today.
He said you have around 3 different things going on.
BLM holding peaceful protests.
The people busting into these after the sun goes down and burning stuff.
People just looting which is occurring very close to him and has put some really nice little small businesses out of business.
He thinks they need the National Guard two days ago, the police are overwhelmed. They cant help the business owners protect their shops.

So thank you for keeping up with me.
Get out of my house and away from my cell phone.

[tholdren]

Show me where I have one post with that name in it.
You wont find it.

Silent during the riots...

I have a friend who moved to up town Minneapolis who I just talked to today.
He said you have around 3 different things going on.
BLM holding peaceful protests.
The people busting into these after the sun goes down and burning stuff.
People just looting which is occurring very close to him and has put some really nice little small businesses out of business.
He thinks they need the National Guard two days ago, the police are overwhelmed. They cant help the business owners protect there shops.

So thank you for keeping up with me.
Get out of my house and away from my cell phone.

lol protestors can't get coronavirus now?

[ChumpDumper]

Protesters in Austin were putting out fires other protesters were starting.

[pgardn]

lol protestors can't get coronavirus now?

wft are you talking about?
people that are willing to set fires and break into stores are worried about a virus?
I think they got bigger problems concerning caring about anything you fckn idiot.

[tholdren]

wft are you talking about?
people that are willing to set fires and break into stores are worried about a virus?
I think they got bigger problems concerning caring about anything you fckn idiot.
Oh man these cities gonna need extra ships for the second wave

[pgardn]

Oh man these cities gonna need extra ships for the second wave

The bullets might be a bigger concern.
Im glad to see how a US citizen is basking in this situation under the all knowing Orange God.
You think he exacted a price from the governor for sending the National Guard? The UNITED states...
Go hug your flag now. Then try to put your tongue on it.

This is great, dmc's little warped dwarf pulling him by the Johnson.

[tholdren]

The bullets might be a bigger concern.
Im glad to see how a US citizen is basking in this situation under the all knowing Orange God.
You think he exacted a price from the governor for sending the National Guard? The UNITED states...
Go hug your flag now. Then try to put your tongue on it.

This is great, dmc's little warped dwarf pulling him by the Johnson.
So no ships?

[pgardn]

So no ships?

wtf are you on?

[tholdren]

wtf are you on?

Coronavirus

[pgardn]

Coronavirus

Was this before or after the hydroxychloroquine?

[tholdren]

Was this before or after the hydroxychloroquine?
Don't need it. Have a .00000000000001 chance of fatalility or spreading since I'm not rioting.

[ChumpDumper]

wtf are you on?Dude is always drunk.

[tholdren]

Dude is always drunk.
Ok hobbit guy

[ChumpDumper]

Ok hobbit guyOK, drunk guy.

[tholdren]

OK, drunk guy.

bwahahahaha triggered

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahahaha triggeredbwahahahaha drunk

[tholdren]

bwahahahaha drunk

here we go on the ride with hobbit watcher. Lol. You do that. I thought those were just memes. But you made them real. Hahahhahah

[ChumpDumper]

here we go on the ride with hobbit watcher. Lol. You do that. I thought those were just memes. But you made them real. HahahhahahMade what real? You can't trust everything you see when you drink that much.

[tholdren]

Made what real? You can't trust everything you see when you drink that much.

You know the memes. I guess they are photos of you, but memes to me.