The Count of Corona...

[baseline bum]

US is going to use paper cards to keep records for COVID vaccinations.

:lmao Yeah this is going to go smoooooothly. Herd immunity by March! What year is this, btw?

Rosiest projection I saw is most people will be able to get vaccinated by June. Seems hard to believe. Probably just like how anyone who wants a test can get a test back in March.

[Winehole23]

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[DMC]

Reported in Western newspapers. There are journalists from all over the world in China.

Do you assume they all take dictation from the CCP?:lol

So what's the total death count?

[Winehole23]

So what's the total death count?No idea.

Now do Canada.

[Winehole23]

Or keep talking about China, if you have more to say about it.

[DMC]

No idea.

Now do Canada.

But all those journalists in China, surely they know.

Canada is your strawman, has nothing to do with my comment.

But your intentional misdirection is noted. Just remain quiet if you don't have anything to add.

[Winehole23]

But all those journalists in China, surely they know.

Canada is your strawman, has nothing to do with my comment.

But your intentional misdirection is noted. Just remain quiet if you don't have anything to add.Sure, it's clear you're red-assed that dozens of countries have better leadership, professionalism and performance than the USA, and you hate the comparisons. Indeed, your consistent theme ITT is that all such comparisons are inappropriate. Piffle.

Face it, DMC, your monotonous whining about the PRC is just a distraction from your butthurt and from the USA's abysmal failure to deal with COVID-19.

[DMC]

US is going to use paper cards to keep records for COVID vaccinations.

:lmao Yeah this is going to go smoooooothly. Herd immunity by March! What year is this, btw?

Worked for votes.

[DMC]

Sure, it's clear you're red-assed that dozens of countries have better leadership, professionalism and performance than the USA, and you hate the comparisons. Indeed, your consistent theme ITT is that all such comparisons are inappropriate. Piffle.

Face it, DMC, your monotonous whining about the PRC is just a distraction from your butthurt and from the USA's abysmal failure to deal with COVID-19.

You think China has better leadership because they lie about their numbers. You're proving my point with every post you make.

[Winehole23]

You think China has better leadership because they lie about their numbers. You're proving my point with every post you make.You're on tilt, you should just give up.

[DMC]

You're on tilt, you should just give up.

You get butthurt so easily, you go off on a post binge and hide behind the collective.

[spurraider21]

another day, another all time high in reported covid deaths and all time high in reported new cases

[Winehole23]

another day, another all time high in reported covid deaths and all time high in reported new cases1% of the total US death toll from COVID-19 happened in last 24 hours.

[tholdren]

1% of the total US death toll from COVID-19 happened in last 24 hours.

Lolooooolooloopplllooloo

Wrong.

[Winehole23]

You get butthurt so easily, you go off on a post binge and hide behind the collective.You said all discussion of COVID-19 would cease on November 4th after a Biden win. How did that work out? :lol

[Winehole23]

The CDC death toll estimate for the beginning of February is slightly higher than the IHME projection.

Also, Redfield says it's time for flu mask truthers to get over it.

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[RandomGuy]

So what's the total death count?

276,402 per John Hopkins. (CNN appears to be using them for their count)
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

The likely figure is quite a bit higher, based on the overall number of excess deaths this year. We won't know until really March what the real effects were.

[Winehole23]

276,402 per John Hopkins. (CNN appears to be using them for their count)
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

.He meant for the PRC. DMC keeps banging on that "doing well on the world stage" wrt COVID correlates with official suppression of information, despite numerous counterexamples.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200608/Cremation-numbers-reveal-possible-suppression-of-true-COVID-19-data-in-China.aspx

[Winehole23]

If the Washington University/St. Louis study is in the right ballpark (PRC understating cases/deaths by an order of magnitude) they're still doing way better than the USA.

[RandomGuy]

If the Washington University/St. Louis study is in the right ballpark (PRC understating cases/deaths by an order of magnitude) they're still doing way better than the USA.

Sounds about right. I am just hoping we avoid fatalities caused by not having enough ICU beds. That has been the risk all along, of course.

[pgardn]

Worst health care f up in US history.
It did not have to be this bad, not with what we are capable of today.
The lack of unity in slowing this down is a historic disaster for a nation with our current communication and health capabilities.
Unfathomable failure for our country.
Leadership totally fd up.


Could be worse, take a look at Slovenia's numbers...

Could be worse if Slovenia had our resources?
those resources would have to go along with a historically bad president.

We are set up to tackle these types of problems supposedly.
But we voted an idiot into THE office.
An office that some on here still claim does not matter as BIG everything makes it impossible for a mere president to do anything. Well now we know this office can royally fup anything in the worst way all on its own as well as convincing other witchcrafttards to go along with snake oil theories.

Now I realize why those tabloids were in place while people waited in grocery store lines. People are fascinated with retarded theories that just a few have the capability of understanding. And they think they’re special. They are especially capable of finding the most bizarre sites on the Internet and believing pure bullshit

[pgardn]

Worst health care f up in US history.
It did not have to be this bad, not with what we are capable of today.
The lack of unity in slowing this down is a historic disaster for a nation with our current communication and health capabilities.
Unfathomable failure for our country.
Leadership totally fd up.


The oligarchy is doing fantastically, immune from health and economic pain Of The People.

The oligarchy has paid for weakening American and govt by division, polarization, propaganda on all the social issues used to divide (God, Gays, Guns, Race, Abortion) with the resulting loss of trust in institutions and INCREASE in the wealth from power for the oligarchy, as was their goal.

As in 2009, the oligarchy's vultures will buy up distressed Capital (property) as owners/borrowers go tits up.

Labor of course is even more distressed and will be thankful for whatever decreasingly minimal crumbs the Capitalists let them have.

iow, USA isn't a failed state, a shit hole, a declining society by accident or by natural forces, but from a strategy by the oligarchy to enrich and empower itself to the detriment of any opposing, countervailing power, like Unions or the government.

The USA's decline is not echoed by other industrial countries like Canada, Western Europe

yes the oligarchy got Trump elected, sure thing.

keep it simple and stupid for the blue team

[RandomGuy]

Rosiest projection I saw is most people will be able to get vaccinated by June. Seems hard to believe. Probably just like how anyone who wants a test can get a test back in March.

Difference being the administration. My guess is that COVID is priority one come Jan 21st. You can bet President Biden will be reading the briefings and listening to actual experts picked for their, you know, expertise, as opposed to being good ass-kissers.

[Winehole23]

Difference being the administration. My guess is that COVID is priority one come Jan 21st. You can bet President Biden will be reading the briefings and listening to actual experts picked for their, you know, expertise, as opposed to being good ass-kissers.No need to guess, he's already made his picks.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/08/...19-task-force/ (https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/08/with-murthy-and-kessler-biden-leans-on-experience-to-steer-covid-19-task-force/)

[baseline bum]

Difference being the administration. My guess is that COVID is priority one come Jan 21st. You can bet President Biden will be reading the briefings and listening to actual experts picked for their, you know, expertise, as opposed to being good ass-kissers.

It still will be priority #1007 with Grim Reaper McConnell though. What a shithole country we are.

[RandomGuy]

It still will be priority #1007 with Grim Reaper McConnell though. What a shithole country we are.

McConnel will make it his priority to make the economy as shitty as he can. I hate to be cynical, but that seems to be what he is signaling. It worked for them before.

[velik_m]

Could be worse if Slovenia had our resources?
those resources would have to go along with a historically bad president.

We are set up to tackle these types of problems supposedly.
But we voted an idiot into THE office.
An office that some on here still claim does not matter as BIG everything makes it impossible for a mere president to do anything. Well now we know this office can royally fup anything in the worst way all on its own as well as convincing other witchcrafttards to go along with snake oil theories.

Now I realize why those tabloids were in place while people waited in grocery store lines. People are fascinated with retarded theories that just a few have the capability of understanding. And they think they’re special. They are especially capable of finding the most bizarre sites on the Internet and believing pure bullshit

Dude, we had 60 dead yesterday on 2mio population, that is like 10k dead in a day for USA. Our PM is still holding on for Trump winning the election. Trust me, you're nowhere near the bottom of incompetence.

[Winehole23]

COVID-19 will probably end up being the 3rd leading cause of death in the US this year.

DGDYtv73hho

[Winehole23]

depressing

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[tholdren]

depressing

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Why? Because anecdotes make you feel sad? Maskbro!

[DMC]

276,402 per John Hopkins. (CNN appears to be using them for their count)
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

The likely figure is quite a bit higher, based on the overall number of excess deaths this year. We won't know until really March what the real effects were.
In China

[Ef-man]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JehbnZp8GF4Ljaw/giphy.gif

[ChumpDumper]

Why? Because anecdotes make you feel sad? Maskbro!Go to a South Dakota and volunteer to work in a COVID ward without a mask.

[spurraider21]

7-day average over 2k for the first time since April 29

another day with the most recorded cases since this whole thing started with over 235k

[Winehole23]

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[tholdren]

The CDC death toll estimate for the beginning of February is slightly higher than the IHME projection.

Also, Redfield says it's time for flu mask truthers to get over it.

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The same guy that said aids was God's punishment for homosexuals? Ok believe him....lolokolol

[tholdren]

Go to a South Dakota and volunteer to work in a COVID ward without a mask.

Was there all rally

[Winehole23]

SoCal lost over 7% of its ICU capacity in one day. At that rate it'll be over capacity in 2-3 days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoc0nxBUYAArf55?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

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[pgardn]

Dude, we had 60 dead yesterday on 2mio population, that is like 10k dead in a day for USA. Our PM is still holding on for Trump winning the election. Trust me, you're nowhere near the bottom of incompetence.

My point is with our resources and abilities WE should not be NEAR the bottom. WE have the abilities so it makes it extraordinarily shameful.

We actually call ourselves The UNITED States. That’s our name and it’s a joke. Look at the efforts in WWII when we got UNITED in a cause. By the end of that war we were turning out material and moving it around in an unprecedented fashion. People behaved in a united sacrifice. This virus can/could have been controlled here.

[ChumpDumper]

Was there all rally

In a COVID ward?

Prove it.

[Winehole23]

just wear the fucking mask

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[pgardn]

just wear the fucking mask

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“muh rights...

I almost dieded of CO2 poisoning “

[Winehole23]

In ChinaIn the People's Republic of Florida, too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoev4EiXUAE4sEM?format=png&name=small

[Winehole23]

50 state reprt from the Coronavirus Task Force is the grimmest take we've seen yet from the federal government:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418114/pages/50-states-11_22_20-report-p345-large.gif?ts=1607008350682


https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20418114-50-states-11_22_20-report

[Winehole23]

at least two states singled out for withholding information:


The White House has said it does not share the reports publicly because it wants states to lead the pandemic response. The Center for Public Integrity is collecting and publishing (https://beta.documentcloud.org/app?q=project%3Ared-zone-reports-50664%20) the documents. Last week it exclusively obtained the 50-state version of the Nov. 22 reports (https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20418114-50-states-11_22_20-report), revealing that the White House was taking tough stances with many states that refuse to share their reports, including Indiana and South Dakota.
https://publicintegrity.org/health/coronavirus-and-inequality/white-house-coronavirus-hospital-capacity-dangerous-place/

[Winehole23]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418114/pages/50-states-11_22_20-report-p351-large.gif?ts=1607008350682

[Winehole23]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418114/pages/50-states-11_22_20-report-p349-large.gif?ts=1607008350682

[Will Hunting]

Looks like North Dakota is the first state to see 10% of its population test positive for COVID, with South Dakota not too far behind.

If these states got slammed back in April when doctors had no idea how to treat patients for this their deaths/capita would be putting New York to shame.

[koriwhat]

Looks like North Dakota is the first state to see 10% of its population test positive for COVID, with South Dakota not too far behind.

If these states got slammed back in April when doctors had no idea how to treat patients for this their deaths/capita would be putting New York to shame.

Who cares? Testing doesn't necessarily equate to hospitalizations.

[Winehole23]

Who cares? Testing doesn't necessarily equate to hospitalizations.from Nov. 22, does not reflect the post-Thanksgiving spike

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418114/pages/50-states-11_22_20-report-p276-xlarge.gif?ts=1607008350682

[Winehole23]

Who cares? Testing doesn't necessarily equate to hospitalizations.1 in 800 people in North Dakota have already died from COVID-19

[koriwhat]

Admissions equate to what exactly though? Are these people laying in beds taking up resources for days & weeks on end or just for a test?

As well, looks like admissions are mainly the elderly and some between 40-69. I wonder how many of the elderly have ailments they've dealt with and now can deal with no more so off to the hospital they go? Masks work, right? Lockdowns?

[koriwhat]

1 in 800 people in North Dakota have already died from COVID-19

People die everyday and every second unfortunately and that's been going on forever before the china virus.

[Winehole23]

Admissions equate to what exactly though? Are these people laying in beds taking up resources for days & weeks on end or just for a test?

As well, looks like admissions are mainly the elderly and some between 40-69. I wonder how many of the elderly have ailments they've dealt with and now can deal with no more so off to the hospital they go? Masks work, right? Lockdowns?North Dakota isn't doing mask mandates or lockdowns. Yet.

If hospitals go over capacity, people start to die because they can't receive urgent care and treatment for things that otherwise wouldn't kill them right away.

[Winehole23]

People die everyday and every second unfortunately and that's been going on forever before the china virus.Love the fake stoicism.

This scale of morbidity and death was avoidable, just look at other countries.

[koriwhat]

North Dakota isn't doing mask mandates or lockdowns. Yet.

Well that's silly... Lockdowns are pointless however masks are whatever to me. I'll wear them when asked to enter a store, restaurant, or whatever. They could've at least complied with that.

[clambake]

People die everyday and every second unfortunately and that's been going on forever before the china virus.

Man, you suck. You’re a bottom feeder, lowlife piece of shit.

[Winehole23]

Well that's silly... Lockdowns are pointless however masks are whatever to me. I'll wear them when asked to enter a store, restaurant, or whatever. They could've at least complied with that.Be safe, man, you're not really worth talking to about this. Too hard-headed.

[koriwhat]

Love the fake stoicism.

This scale of morbidity and death was avoidable, just look at other countries.

Doubtful... The numbers have been skewed from the beginning and to think otherwise is foolish. If we all had precise numbers then maybe we could talk on this as if we actually are there in the hospitals and dealing with the stupid china virus.

I think back to those little old asians who walked into that restaurant I was in right before the quarantine. You can't stop those who were sent here to spread this bs virus. Those little old ladies did just that or at least attempted to do so. Sticking their faces in people's plates and leaving out the backdoor was super suspect but at the time I thought nothing of it except that it was funny.

We literally are all just bs'ing with each other acting like we all know better than the next man about what's going on. Reality is we're all in the dark and all this back and forth gets us nowhere realistically.

Live life or stay scared and hide in your house until you're on the streets because you've lost everything.

[koriwhat]

Be safe, man, you're not really worth talking to about this. Too hard-headed.

I'm def hard-headed and to a fault. You stay safe too bro. I wish no ill-will on you WH. God bless you!

[DMC]

In the People's Republic of Florida, too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoev4EiXUAE4sEM?format=png&name=small

But all those journalists in Florida.

You haven't even relinquished China but you want to throw in Florida? :lol

[DMC]

Love the fake stoicism.

This scale of morbidity and death was avoidable, just look at other countries.

Like China

[DMC]

Man, you suck. You’re a bottom feeder, lowlife piece of shit.

You on the other hand are an upstanding person who just moonlights as a faggot online

[koriwhat]

Like China

Stockholm syndrome... I laugh at all these people on tv and online who look towards china for the answers. The same crap CCP that released the virus is all of a sudden our savior too. Insanity!

[koriwhat]

You on the other hand are an upstanding person who just moonlights as a faggot online

Lmao I take it his quote was directed at me huh? I don't read that losers' over dramatic attention seeking replies anymore. The dude is worthless and adds nothing so there's no point in giving a damn about what he/she/it has to say any longer.

[Winehole23]

Like ChinaLike Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan...and many more.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC melting down

[koriwhat]

Like Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan...and many more.

I don't know bro... Some of those are very suspect tbh. I wouldn't take any advice from Canada whose PM is a black-face wearing Great Reset hack nor Australia that's looking more like the CCP by the day. The others I won't even speak on because I haven't kept up with them much since the beginning of all this bs.

[ChumpDumper]

k:lolri

[Winehole23]

Dan Patrick is gripping about COVID-19 testing, but only for members of the public coming to his place of work:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/05/dan-patrick-covid-legislative-session/

[Winehole23]

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[koriwhat]

You've got to love stats from 1918... They had abacuses and notepads though! LMAO

[Winehole23]

You've got to love stats from 1918... They had abacuses and notepads though! LMAOYeah, medical science wasn't what it is now either.

[clambake]

You on the other hand are an upstanding person who just moonlights as a faggot online

Fat guy said something lol

Have a good evening, gravy boat, god bless

[clambake]

:lol DMC melting down

I think you mean “rendering”

Cuz he’s fat.

[Winehole23]

:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You've got to love stats from 1918... They had abacuses and notepads though! LMAO

Slide rules were invented in the 17th century. Probability matrices were invented before 1918. Statistics far before then.

Quite frankly you do not have the capacity to comment on the modeling and projection capabilities of any era, Joey. Do you even know who Markov, Gauss, or Euler were?

[DMC]

Fat guy said something lol

Have a good evening, gravy boat, god bless

lol predictable response from the upstanding citizen

[clambake]

lol predictable response from the upstanding citizen

And you’re yellow.

Is that a new crisco product, porky?

[DMC]

And you’re yellow.

Is that a new crisco product, porky?

Low tier insult attempts. 14 years here and that's your best :lol

[Winehole23]

Tennessee calls in National Guard to assist overburdered hospitals


With a record number (https://covidtracking.com/data/national) of Covid patients in Tennessee’s hospitals, Gov. Bill Lee has authorized National Guard troops to drive ambulances, test patients and perform nursing tasks to relieve stress on the overwhelmed health facilities.https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/05/world/covid-19-coronavirus#with-covid-19-hospitalizations-at-a-high-tennessee-asks-the-national-guard-for-help

[clambake]

Low tier insult attempts. 14 years here and that's your best :lol

Derp hates being known as derp.

You hate everyone knowing you’re fat.


So easy

[pgardn]

Who cares? Testing doesn't necessarily equate to hospitalizations.

It is bad for news for potential to spread which makes it more likely to infect a large number of people which leads to more hospitalizations just because so many more people are infected. This is pretty straightforward. It’s really not a “who cares”

[pgardn]

People die everyday and every second unfortunately and that's been going on forever before the china virus.

“Once you are born you will die eventually”

Gotta love the logic.

[pgardn]

Low tier insult attempts. 14 years here and that's your best :lol
Says the guy who has proclaimed me autistic, bipolar, fetal alcohol tragedy.

Once again, major league hypocrisy and totally blind to it.

[DMC]

Derp hates being known as derp.

You hate everyone knowing you’re fat.


So easy

You live a lonely life. It's apparent in how you latch on to people who won't talk to you.

[DMC]

Says the guy who has proclaimed me autistic, bipolar, fetal alcohol tragedy.

Once again, major league hypocrisy and totally blind to it.

But that doesn't exonerate you from either of those malformities.

[clambake]

Fat guy still “rendering” the fat. Just an observation from an honest broker. The circle of trust agrees.

[DMC]

Fat guy still “rendering” the fat. Just an observation from an honest broker. The circle of trust agrees.

Day and night, your free mental motel is open to me :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol he's using fancy words just like derp tries

[clambake]

You never thanked me for training you. Well overdue.

[Winehole23]

Like China

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Day and night, your free mental motel is open to me :lol

Lol you don't know what rent free means either. You and Joey should start a support group

[tholdren]

It is bad for news for potential to spread which makes it more likely to infect a large number of people which leads to more hospitalizations just because so many more people are infected. This is pretty straightforward. It’s really not a “who cares”

The CDC’s document on testing guidance now includes the following information:

If you do not have COVID-19 symptoms and have not been in close contact with someone known to have a COVID-19 infection: You do not need a test

[clambake]

7 Vietnam’s in a month


7

[tholdren]

7 Vietnam’s in a month


7

Do you know that people die daily. Thousands

[clambake]

7 trump Vietnam’s

[tholdren]

Do you know that people die daily. Thousands

Why did baseline expected deaths decease this year?......

[koriwhat]

Yeah, medical science wasn't what it is now either.

Yeah and it's still mainly a crock of crap.... As well as our media yet back then you really think I'm going to believe "numbers" tabulated from the early 1900's? Lmao they didn't even have Excel back then. haha

[koriwhat]

“Once you are born you will die eventually”

Gotta love the logic.

Well it's definitely 100% accurate. Again, if you chicken little's are so scared then stay in your house/apartments until you no longer can because you have no income anymore and no house/apartment. :tu

Do you!

[DMC]

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Xenophobic

[DMC]

Lol you don't know what rent free means either. You and Joey should start a support group

Fuzzy returns to his vomit. Coward

[Winehole23]

XenophobicAre you then? How totally unsurprising.

[pgardn]

But that doesn't exonerate you from either of those malformities.

You dont exonerate me from YOUR proclaimations...
That hurts.

Do it some more.

[pgardn]

Well it's definitely 100% accurate. Again, if you chicken little's are so scared then stay in your house/apartments until you no longer can because you have no income anymore and no house/apartment. :tu

Do you!

Sure it is and it means nothing. You are born, then you die, might as well be from Covid. So insightful.

Im just following sound reasoning with masks and distancing.
What are you doing?

[koriwhat]

Sure it is and it means nothing. You are born, then you die, might as well be from Covid. So insightful.

Im just following sound reasoning with masks and distancing.
What are you doing?

Doing the same so what's your gripe realistically?

Yall are all just looking to bicker with me and others and that's a damn shame. This is ST after all and I'm really not surprised either.

[pgardn]

Doing the same so what's your gripe realistically?

Yall are all just looking to bicker with me and others and that's a damn shame. This is ST after all and I'm really not surprised either.

That dying from Covid is acceptable because we all are going to die anyway.
Reread your post.

This has been a gigantic clstrfck when it did not have to be. Thats my gripe.
Whats your gripe about my gripe?

[DMC]

Doing the same so what's your gripe realistically?

Yall are all just looking to bicker with me and others and that's a damn shame. This is ST after all and I'm really not surprised either.

His gripe is orangeman bad. It has nothing to do with COVID. If it did he'd look at the deaths per 1m and realize the US is right with a lot of other countries. Instead he looks at raw numbers because he's a tool who fancies himself a scholar.

[pgardn]

His gripe is orangeman bad. It has nothing to do with COVID. If it did he'd look at the deaths per 1m and realize the US is right with a lot of other countries. Instead he looks at raw numbers because he's a tool who fancies himself a scholar.

Captain America arrives for Koriwhat.
He can take care of himself now.

And you are an idiot who thinks the US is about where it should be with this disease given our capabilities?
If you knew our response was so pitiful why did you vote for the orangeman bad and now defend him again. Are you embarrassed now because you got stoned in another thread and want to try again?
Go ahead, keep trying.
Dig that hole.

[DMC]

Captain America arrives for Koriwhat.
He can take care of himself now.

And you are an idiot who thinks the US is about where it should be with this disease given our capabilities?
If you knew our response was so pitiful why did you vote for the orangeman bad and now defend him again. Are you embarrassed now because you got stoned in another thread and want to try again?
Go ahead, keep trying.
Dig that hole.

:cry you disagree with me so you're for the virus!11!

[DMC]

Are you then? How totally unsurprising.

Again you post a tweet sans context or comment and when called out you deny connection to it.

[DMC]

You dont exonerate me from YOUR proclaimations...
That hurts.

Do it some more.

wut? :lol

[pgardn]

:cry you disagree with me so you're for the virus!11!

Now the middle schooler comes forth in Grumpa.
My task is completed here.

[Winehole23]

Again you post a tweet sans context or comment and when called out you deny connection to it.Uh huh, that's very interesting, do go on.

[pgardn]

wut? :lol

Wut?

You diagnosed me Ms. Cruthfield.
Reread your post.
fckn dunce.

[DMC]

Wut?

You diagnosed me Ms. Cruthfield.
Reread your post.
fckn dunce.

wtf is a proclaimation?

[pgardn]

wtf is a proclaimation?

You dont like that word Crutchfield because you are some sort of ruler of medical problems?
Then go with diagnosed if you still cant get it.
And please attempt to split those atoms of hair coming out of your ears.
Intellectual flexibility, you got it old man.
Keep going.

[pgardn]

DMCyoulater.

[DMC]

:lmao you still don't recognize your fuck up. That means it wasn't a typo.



proc·la·ma·tion
/ˌpräkləˈmāSH(ə)n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a public or official announcement, especially one dealing with a matter of great importance.
"Eisenhower signed a proclamation admitting Alaska to the Union"

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

low-key racist genocide is one of the many necropolitical subtexts

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EokfFd2XcAAZ1L9?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Seven day average daily deaths surpass the April peak. Given that we know more about to treat COVID now, and that the Thanksgiving spike isn't yet reflected in the data, that seems bad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EojzM9wWEAwdGVV?format=jpg&name=medium

[Winehole23]

sidebar: COVID is wrecking higher education

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[clambake]

Fat guy that voted for joe hasn’t thanked me yet.

[Winehole23]

Fat guy that voted for joe hasn’t thanked me yet.low and slow is the way to go with a braise an don't spare the basting.

[clambake]

Fat side up for the rendering

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy returns to his vomit. Coward

I've already demonstrated that I came back. You were wrong.

I do like you trying to deflect from not knowing what rent free means. Fattie.

[RandomGuy]

Looks like North Dakota is the first state to see 10% of its population test positive for COVID, with South Dakota not too far behind.

If these states got slammed back in April when doctors had no idea how to treat patients for this their deaths/capita would be putting New York to shame.

Saw something like one out of every 800 NDakotans have died.

[RandomGuy]

One thing that the death tally misses:

The number of people with some permanent serious injuries.


Organ damage caused by COVID-19
Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can damage many other organs as well. This organ damage may increase the risk of long-term health problems. Organs that may be affected by COVID-19 include:

Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future.
Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems.
Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351
For every fatality, we are looking at many, many more with some serious damage from the hospitalizations.

I would expect a serious uptick in health care costs after the pandemic ends.

[DMC]

I've already demonstrated that I came back. You were wrong.

I do like you trying to deflect from not knowing what rent free means. Fattie.

Like I said...

:lol meme police

[DMC]

sidebar: COVID is wrecking higher education

1335687946159218691

1335803924582789120
Who's going to coerce students into rioting now? What about the safe spaces?

[DMC]

Seven day average daily deaths surpass the April peak. Given that we know more about to treat COVID now, and that the Thanksgiving spike isn't yet reflected in the data, that seems bad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EojzM9wWEAwdGVV?format=jpg&name=medium

End of the world no doubt

[Winehole23]

End of the world no doubtlol no

You're the only one who says so

[pgardn]

lol no

You're the only one who says so

He did not like the numbers, no one does, so just dismiss it with exaggeration.
Its his preferred way of exiting actual content. Red team to the bone this DMCircleofjerk.

[Winehole23]

Who's going to coerce students into rioting now? What about the safe spaces?oldmanyelllingatclouds.jpg

[Winehole23]

He did not like the numbers, no one does, so just dismiss it with exaggeration.
Its his preferred way of exiting actual content. Red team to the bone this DMCircleofjerk.DMC predicted discussion of COVID -19 and the death toll would cease when Biden won.

[tholdren]

DMC predicted discussion of COVID -19 and the death toll would cease when Biden won.

the Alberta data reveals that 77.1% of people who died of COVID-19 did so while grappling with 3 or more underlying conditions. The percentage of people who have died with zero underlying conditions is 2%, and that tally includes people in their 90s.

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[pgardn]

Let’s get this going and hope it works

https://apple.news/Ac_u64MITThGbMPbLbll9qw

The approval was pretty much a slam dunk but anyhow, let’s go

[Splits]

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[boutons_deux]

Let’s get this going and hope it works


https://apple.news/Ac_u64MITThGbMPbLbll9qw (https://apple.news/Ac_u64MITThGbMPbLbll9qw)

The approval was pretty much a slam dunk but anyhow, let’s go

Approval from Trash-compromised, sycophantic FDA? nein danke.

===========

Leading Covid-19 vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna

decline invitations to White House ‘Vaccine Summit’

https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/07/pfizer-moderna-decline-white-house-vaccine-summit/

:lol Trash degrading quickly into irrelevance

[Winehole23]

1335957618473447428"muh freedom"

[pgardn]

Approval from Trash-compromised, sycophantic FDA? nein danke.

===========

Leading Covid-19 vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna

decline invitations to White House ‘Vaccine Summit’

https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/07/pfizer-moderna-decline-white-house-vaccine-summit/

:lol Trash degrading quickly into irrelevance

that’s fine I’ll lineup before you.
maybe...
I do not fear vaccines. if early results show is not working, then so what. I and others keep wearing the mask and keeping away from crowded places indoors wait for the new vaccine. it’s all we got right now.

[clambake]

1335957618473447428

Lol galactic federation total landscaping

[TimDunkem]

Lol galactic federation total landscaping

Still more proof of aliens than voter fraud tbh

[tholdren]

sidebar: COVID is wrecking higher education

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1335803924582789120

Good

[ElNono]

^ wrong

[Ef-man]

Good

Sadly, what foldren said was “good” but he promptly folded right after.

[tholdren]

One thing that the death tally misses:

The number of people with some permanent serious injuries.



https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351
For every fatality, we are looking at many, many more with some serious damage from the hospitalizations.

I would expect a serious uptick in health care costs after the pandemic ends.

Lolololll



Low iq

[Ef-man]

^ wrong

[TimDunkem]

Old Man Rave pwnt per par

[Winehole23]

Herd immunity may be a tougher target than previously believed


The recent publication of the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD), which calls for relaxing all public health interventions on young, healthy individuals, has brought the question of herd immunity to the forefront of COVID-19 policy discussions, and is partially based on unpublished research that suggests low herd immunity thresholds (HITs) of 10-20%. We re-evaluate these findings and correct a flawed assumption leading to COVID-19 HIT estimates of 60-80%. If policymakers were to adopt a herd immunity strategy, in which the virus is allowed to spread relatively unimpeded, we project that cumulative COVID-19 deaths would be five times higher than the initial estimates suggest. Our re-estimates of the COVID-19 HIT corroborate strong signals in the data and compelling arguments that most of the globe remains far from herd immunity, and suggest that abandoning community mitigation efforts would jeopardize the welfare of communities and integrity of healthcare systemshttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.01.20242289v1

[DarrinS]

Herd immunity may be a tougher target than previously believed

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.01.20242289v1


Hide under your bed with chump. We're all gonna die.

[ChumpDumper]

Hide under your bed with chump. We're all gonna die.No one is hiding.

You're just being a cunt because your filthy ass got COVID immediately.

Don't hate the hygienic.

[Winehole23]

Hide under your bed with chump. We're all gonna die.Cool story, you have such great topical takes.

There's a Brazilian study that tends to corroborate, would you like to read it too?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.16.20194787v1.full.pdf

[clambake]

Derp vomits his displeasure constantly.


Karrin likes to stew on his first.

[tholdren]

No one is hiding.

You're just being a cunt because your filthy ass got COVID immediately.

Don't hate the hygienic.

And he survived like millions of others. Ifr cryboi

[ElNono]

^ :lol meltdown

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo0GBIxUwAIcRlk?format=png&name=small

https://kedrosky.org/graphmailer/kedrosky-daily-graphs-2020-12-09-natural-gas-zoom-traffic-etc/

[Winehole23]

HHS hospitalization data

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[Trainwreck2100]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo0GBIxUwAIcRlk?format=png&name=small

https://kedrosky.org/graphmailer/kedrosky-daily-graphs-2020-12-09-natural-gas-zoom-traffic-etc/

r^2 = 0.58, shit graph

[Winehole23]

r^2 = 0.58, shit graphPosted to rustle DMC's jimmies

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

3,243 deaths
225,441 new cases
6.3 million active cases

[Winehole23]

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[baseline bum]

3,243 deaths
225,441 new cases
6.3 million active cases

Only about 400 deaths short of the number killed at Antietam.

[Winehole23]

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[koriwhat]

1337234137128775680

How many of the usual 60k-80k flu deaths per year have occurred thus far? Trust everything you're told to trust by all the networks owned by 3 people. Lmao & Smdh

[baseline bum]

1337234137128775680

World War II was a hoax

[Winehole23]

How many of the usual 60k-80k flu deaths per year have occurred thus far? Trust everything you're told to trust by all the networks owned by 3 people. Lmao & SmdhThe CDC and Johns Hopkins aren't media companies. They're not owned by media companies either.

Renfield says we'll be at or over 3,000 deaths/day fro the next 2-3 months.

[koriwhat]

The CDC and Johns Hopkins aren't media companies. They're not owned by media companies either.

Renfield says we'll be at or over 3,000 deaths/day fro the next 2-3 months.

Or trust the hacks at the CDC who've flip flopped from the beginning. :tu

[Winehole23]

By the end of February we'll be around 600,000 dead. That's about 10 times a bad flu year.

[baseline bum]

Renfield says we'll be at or over 3,000 deaths/day fro the next 2-3 months.

Fuck... link?

[Winehole23]

Fuck... link?https://www.businessinsider.com/us-more-covid-19-deaths-911-90-days-cdc-director-2020-12

[Winehole23]

we'll take off our shoes for the rest of our lives at airports because 3,000 people died on one day two decades ago, but won't put on a mask when 3,000 people/day are dying right now from a contagious respiratory disease.

[baseline bum]

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-more-covid-19-deaths-911-90-days-cdc-director-2020-12

Damn

[koriwhat]

we'll take off our shoes for the rest of our lives at airports because 3,000 people died on one day two decades ago, but won't put on a mask when 3,000 people/day are dying right now from a contagious respiratory disease.

Conflating contradicting issues.

[Winehole23]

If this were happening in Venezuela, we'd say they were starving their own country and blame socialism. Since it's happening here, we'll just say "people are hungry," I guess because the USA makes no pretense of feeding it own people.

(It's probably also absurd to expect capitalism to satisfy basic human needs, historically, it has never done so.)

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/07/texas-food-banks-unemployment-coronavirus/

[koriwhat]

If this were happening in Venezuela, we'd say they were starving their own country and blame socialism. Since it's happening here, we'll just say "people are hungry," I guess because the USA makes no pretense of feeding it own people.

(It's probably also absurd to expect capitalism to satisfy basic human needs, historically, it has never done so.)

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/07/texas-food-banks-unemployment-coronavirus/

Venezuela is a hop skip away... Go move down there please!

[Winehole23]

Venezuela is a hop skip away... Go move down there please!No thanks, I'm good.

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

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Lol, largely avoided. Give me a break

[baseline bum]

Lol, largely avoided. Give me a break

South Korea, Singapore, New Zealand, Taiwan, Australia have largely avoided the deaths your Dear Leader walked us into

[Winehole23]

Lol, largely avoided. Give me a breakThere are no small number of countries (Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Canada, Ireland, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc..) that are not experiencing mass death or uncontrolled nationwide outbreaks.

Are you suggesting it was impossible to have avoided the outcome we have here?

[hater]

South Korea, Singapore, New Zealand, Taiwan, Australia have largely avoided the deaths your Dear Leader walked us into

Pretty much every country has avoided a US style covid massacre

Even Bolsonaros brazil who he called his citizens pussies and said hed go grill a steak when asked about the deaths :lol

Even they did a much better job that US

[hater]

By the end of February we'll be around 600,000 dead. That's about 10 times a bad flu year.

Why stop at 90 days? Whats gonna happen in 90 days that will slow it down?

Nothing Id say well be around 3k carcasses a day until April tbqh

My big banker clients already said tbey are not opening back their offices until a vaccine is highly available which will be next August in their estimation

1st half of 2021 is already a lost cause

[Winehole23]

Why stop at 90 days? Whats gonna happen in 90 days that will slow it down?The gruesome specatacle of our health care system breaking down, people dying by the thousands because they can't get treatment for otherwise survivable non-COVID medical conditions and mass death like we haven't since the Spanish Flu -- might change behavior. Maybe an effective thereputic treatment will become widely available before vaccines do.

The upper end of the IHME projection is ~5,000 deaths per day in the US by the end of February. I'm hoping hard we can avoid that, we'd have to do things to mitigate transmission. Since neither infrastructure nor political will exist for mass testing and social tracing, social distancing, masking and stay at home orders are pretty much all we've got until effective treatment and vaccines get here.

[Winehole23]

PFA guess, neither COVID-19 aid nor effective treatment will be made available anytime soon, the duration and intensity of transmission will be heightened and prolonged by states that refuse to close businesses and issue shelter in place orders, because "muh economy" always trumps the well-being of people in the most indoctrinated country in the world.

[koriwhat]

No thanks, I'm good.

Your response was expected. Of course you're good because you live in the United States of America where freedom is a God given right and Capitalism is the only catalyst to achieving the American dream.

[Winehole23]

Your response was expected. Of course you're good because you live in the United States of America where freedom is a God given right and Capitalism is the only catalyst to achieving the American dream.There's the indoctrination I was referring to.

Worshipping a coercive, deadly, intensely exploitative and completely amoral economic system; taking the side of that system against anyone who dares to criticize it; conflating it with freedom and patriotism; stipulating that it is the best thing in the world; and claiming that there is no alternative.

[koriwhat]

There's the indoctrination I was referring to.

Worshipping a coercive, deadly, intensely exploitative and completely amoral economic system; taking the side of that system against anyone who dares to criticize it; conflating it with freedom and patriotism; stipulating that it is the best thing in the world; and claiming that there is no alternative.

You live in the USA? You work a job? That job allows you to purchase items like the computer/phone you're posting on ST with? You're able to create opportunity by becoming your own boss? etc...

You speak like you don't live in the same system that has afforded you plentiful opportunities to excel.

[Winehole23]

You live in the USA? You work a job? That job allows you to purchase items like the computer/phone you're posting on ST with? You're able to create opportunity by becoming your own boss? etc...

You speak like you don't live in the same system that has afforded you plentiful opportunities to excel.I've been lucky. The system still thrives on exploitaion, misery and death.

[koriwhat]

Yadda yadda yadda

^ Faux intellectual

[Winehole23]

^ Faux intellectual
Nope, just some guy basement posting on a sports board. Anybody can do that.

[koriwhat]

Nope, just some guy basement posting on a sports board. Anybody can do that.

Well hello Biden.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your response was expected. Of course you're good because you live in the United States of America where freedom is a God given right and Capitalism is the only catalyst to achieving the American dream.

Not as expected as your take. This is a democracy where citizens have a voice. Saying other places do something better means a support for change. Empiricism and all that.

Back in 1776 you would have been a royalist stooge. In 1853, a landless sharecropper.

I suppose by sucking the corporate establishment dick you feel enfranchised. Given your lack of awareness this is not surprising.

[koriwhat]

I suppose by sucking the corporate establishment dick you feel enfranchised.

Tell us again who you voted for in this Presidential Election? :lmao

[Winehole23]

RIP, Dr. Carlos Araujo-Preza


Nationally, at least 1,425 health care workers have died of the disease, according to an incomplete database compiled by Kaiser Health News and The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/aug/11/lost-on-the-frontline-covid-19-coronavirus-us-healthcare-workers-deaths-database).https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/he-treated-houston-s-most-desperate-covid-patients-then-he-n1250709

[DarrinS]

RIP, Dr. Carlos Araujo-Preza

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/he-treated-houston-s-most-desperate-covid-patients-then-he-n1250709



For someone who knew a lot about this illness, he wasn't very smart to delay his own treatment.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Tell us again who you voted for in this Presidential Election? :lmao

I almost always vote third party. Jorgenson this time around.

[Winehole23]

For someone who knew a lot about this illness, he wasn't very smart to delay his own treatment.Doctors are people, man. They make mistakes.

My family doc died of a heart atttack. He thought he was having an asthma attack and hit his puffer -- which probably contributed to his death. He was not a stupid man or a bad doc. He just made a mistake.

[DarrinS]

Doctors are people, man. They make mistakes.

My family doc died of a heart atttack. He thought he was having an asthma attack and hit his puffer -- which probably contributed to his death. He was not a stupid man or a bad doc. He just made a mistake.


Its just sad. In the article you posted, the doc definitely could have survived with early treatment.

[DarrinS]

Behaves like a snarky cunt, gets smacked around by someone displaying empathy, immediately backs down.

The DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) Way.

That doctor was dumb.

And now he's dead.

Anything else, "mono"?

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, one more thing.

Darrin is not a doctor.

Darrin has an acute case of Iknowadoctoritis.

[Winehole23]

Behaves like a snarky cunt, gets smacked around by someone displaying empathy, immediately backs down.

The DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) Way.This just happened and he was a Texas doc. It's not unthinkable someone who survived him might see the snarky posts.

It's not like we're talking about some crook or asshole politician, but if Darrin needs to prop himself up on a dead doc to feel smart, that can't be helped.

[Winehole23]

UNITED STATESYesterday's data (12/11/2020)
NEW CASES: 224,452
DEATHS: 2,768

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases

[DarrinS]

This just happened and he was a Texas doc. It's not unthinkable someone who survived him might see the snarky posts.

It's not like we're talking about some crook or asshole politician, but if Darrin needs to prop himself up on a dead doc to feel smart, that can't be helped.

Yes, focus on me and not on bad decisions of dead doctor.

[Winehole23]

Yes, focus on me and not on bad decisions of dead doctor.I already acknowledged the mistake, but nothing requires me to be an echo of you.

I wish he had sought treatment sooner. It's unfortunate he didn't, from the story it seems he was a good doctor. Case fatality rate from COVID-19 for people his age is 2-3%. Dr.Araujo -Preza in addition to waiting on treatment was unlucky.

[tholdren]

Yes, one more thing.

Darrin is not a doctor.

Darrin has an acute case of Iknowadoctoritis.

Loloooopoopopploooloolll

Cryboi

[Ef-man]

Loloooopoopopploooloolll

Cryboi

Foldren with the classic fold.

[ChumpDumper]

Foldren with the classic fold.As always.

[tholdren]

Loloooopoopopploooloolll

Cryboi

Cryboi won't come out until he gets a vax

Masks dont work

[Ef-man]

Foldren with the classic fold.

[ChumpDumper]

Cryboi won't come out until he gets a vax

Masks dont workHow many COVID wards have you visited without a mask?

[Winehole23]

record cases, record deaths in the US today


UNITED STATESYesterday's data (12/12/2020)
NEW CASES: 231,775
DEATHS: 3,309

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases

[TimDunkem]

Honest question, no trolling...What does folden get out of this at this point?

[ChumpDumper]

Honest question, no trolling...What does folden get out of this at this point?He gets to soothe his ego with his alternate reality like every other boomer MAGAtard in the US.

[baseline bum]

Honest question, no trolling...What does folden get out of this at this point?

Best part of his day

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

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Congrats to New Zealand. What other tiny island countries are kicking ass?

[tholdren]

Congrats to New Zealand. What other tiny island countries are kicking ass?

China

[DarrinS]

In fairness to NJ and NY, many of those deaths were back when governors were asking for 50k ventilators.

[Winehole23]

Congrats to New Zealand. What other tiny island countries are kicking ass?Australia, Germany, Vietnam, South Korea and China.

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

Australia, Germany, Vietnam, South Korea and China.

Nice tiny islands

[Winehole23]

Nice tiny islandsDo you consider New Zealand and Japan to be "tiny"?"

[Winehole23]

https://external-preview.redd.it/0gmnoFCYRlIJijzI0EPkTeiVsj0bNgVSjy4_3P5ZC_0.jpg?au to=webp&b4135475https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/country-size-compared-to-usa-north-america-43-5ce24e38566d3__700.jpg

https://soranews24.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/06/jm-2.png

[Winehole23]

another DarrinS drive-by...




































































































...shooting blanks, as usual

[DarrinS]

Concept of island escaping Whinehole

[Winehole23]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6eee1ad668706d9f6269df466b4c2295/tenor.gif?itemid=8764564

[DarrinS]

Strong border control suddenly important. And more easily enforced, when you're an island.

[DarrinS]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6eee1ad668706d9f6269df466b4c2295/tenor.gif?itemid=8764564

The irony is... ^that's you. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

In fairness to NJ and NY, many of those deaths were back when governors were asking for 50k ventilators.You were calling for mass hydroxychloroquine intake and said South Korea was an island.

Oh, and you immediately contracted COVID because you're a disgusting filthy pig.

[Winehole23]

Strong border control suddenly important. And more easily enforced, when you're an island.Australia, Germany, Vietnam, China and South Korea are great examples of that generalization.

Oh wait, they're counterexamples.

Dumb Darrin strikes again.

[DarrinS]

This message is hidden because ChumpDumper is on your ignore list.

[ChumpDumper]

Australia, Germany, Vietnam, China and South Korea are great examples of that generalization.

Oh wait, they're counterexamples.

Dumb Darrin strikes again.He's just another guy who was wrong early and pretended he's been right all along.

[DarrinS]

Australia, Germany, Vietnam, China and South Korea are great examples of that generalization.

Oh wait, they're counterexamples.

Dumb Darrin strikes again.

Lol

[Winehole23]

^^^more content-free scoffing, courtesy of Dumb Darrin.

[Winehole23]

this goes beyond working conditions, this sort of lawlessness threatens public health more generally.

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[tholdren]

This message is hidden because ChumpDumper is on your ignore list.

Lolololool


Chumpdumpcryboi SILENCED

[tholdren]

In fairness to NJ and NY, many of those deaths were back when governors were asking for 50k ventilators.

New York is the worst. Just awful

[Ef-man]

New York is the worst. Just awful

NY is never as bas as your folding. Never.

[ChumpDumper]

New York is the worst. Just awful:lol you're in Florida

[Will Hunting]

Strong border control suddenly important. And more easily enforced, when you're an island.
COVID came to the US via planes from Europe/China, not via land travel from Mexico/Canada. The ":cry but New Zealand is an Island!" argument makes no sense, the US had the same geographic advantages New Zealand had in March/April.

[baseline bum]

Concept of island escaping Whinehole

Concept of doing something other than lie and downplay in the early stages of pandemic once virus is in your country escaping Karrin

[Winehole23]

COVID came to the US via planes from Europe/China, not via land travel from Mexico/Canada. The ":cry but New Zealand is an Island!" argument makes no sense, the US had the same geographic advantages New Zealand had in March/April.lol "muh Chinese travel ban"

[Will Hunting]

:lmao travel banned China and did jack shit else, because Trump knew his racist dipshit base would be appeased. And DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) fell in line like a good little lemming.
400,000 Chinese nationals were able to travel to America after Trump’s travel “ban” :lol

All the travel ban did was keep people stranded in overcrowded airports that turned into COVID cesspools

[Winehole23]

:lmao travel banned China and did jack shit else, because Trump knew his racist dipshit base would be appeased. And DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) fell in line like a good little lemming.The travel ban was full of holes and came too late. Hong Kong and Macao were exempted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-07-04/trumps-strong-wall-to-block-covid-19-from-china-had-holes