The Count of Corona...

[ChumpDumper]

I already told you my stance. The death rate is lower than what is being presented. Maybe deaths should only count for people with no preexisting conditions that die from covid. Wonder what that would be?But you don't have a death rate or total of your own and can't think of any factors that might lead to a number of COVID-19 deaths not being counted.

Great.

Now that you've admitted you can't answer that question, answer this one:

According to you, how is the virus spread?

[tholdren]

But you don't have a death rate or total of your own and can't think of any factors that might lead to a number of COVID-19 deaths not being counted.

Great.

Now that you've admitted you can't answer that question, answer this one:

According to you, how is the virus spread?

I'll quote this deflection for the audience. This way they can see i know more than you, and you refused to answer again. ChumpDumper I am really enjoying these early conversations with you. When this lockdown is over I will buy the first round.

[DarrinS]

This article has numbers from the Netherlands

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-one-chart-exposes-lie-behind-universal-lockdowns/

[DarrinS]

I’m sure conservativereview.com is going to take an unbiased look at this.

Data is data

[DarrinS]

:lmao i’ll keep this quote bookmarked to shove it back in your face.

Uh, ok

[clambake]

Hey throating, N.Y. gov should have heard about this in November....when trump heard


Too bad, don’t you agree?

[DarrinS]

Hey throating, N.Y. gov should have heard about this in November....when trump heard


Too bad, don’t you agree?


What are you talking about?

[clambake]

What are you talking about?

Trump knew in November, 401k slave.

[DarrinS]

Trump knew in November, 401k slave.

My 401k is still solid. Good manager

[clambake]

My 401k is still solid. Good manager

You’re a slave to a manager lol

[DarrinS]

Trump knew in November, 401k slave.

What exactly did we know about covid-19 in November, clamtard?

[clambake]

What exactly did we know about covid-19 in November, clamtard?

He was informed about it, and did nothing except ignore it.


When you call someone faggot, do you mean they’re gay?

[ChumpDumper]

I'll quote this deflection for the audience. This way they can see i know more than you, and you refused to answer again. ChumpDumper I am really enjoying these early conversations with you. When this lockdown is over I will buy the first round.You've admitted you have nothing for a count. I can quote your admission if you like.

According to you, how is the virus spread?

I'm really enjoying watching you squirm every time I ask.

[Splits]

WTF, are you all gonna beat my ass to a frazzle forever?

Not forever. Until there's an end in sight, or your admit your Kirby forced that pilot into the air that grim, fateful morning.

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[Trainwreck2100]

HE BANNED THE CHINKS FROM COMING HERE AND MILLIONS WOULD HAVE DIED OTHERWISE!

we're just gonna ignore the fact that they could have flown to anywhere else, and then here, so WE INCONVENIENCED CHINESE PEOPLE BY A COUPLE OF HOURS

[Thread]

Not forever. Until there's an end in sight, or your admit your Kirby forced that pilot into the air that grim, fateful morning.

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I already told you, numb nuts, that I ain't doing this silly shit, Splits.

You have a stature here, Splits, don't fuck that up.

[clambake]

His stature is stomping your guts out, dale

[boutons_deux]

we're just gonna ignore the fact that they could have flown to anywhere else, and then here, so WE INCONVENIENCED CHINESE PEOPLE BY A COUPLE OF HOURS

After Trash's fake ban, 1000s of Chinese flew directly to USA, some from Wuhan.

the ban was Trash campaigning some red meat to his blood-and-soil Euro-white male racists

[Thread]

His stature is stomping your guts out, dale

He's debasing himself. I feel badly for the poor thing.

[Pelicans78]

Deaths are probably higher than counted due to the high false negative rate of the testing. Many folks died with the disease without being counted.

[clambake]

He's debasing himself. I feel badly for the poor thing.

You feel badly for the guy that takes you to the shed?

[pgardn]

His stature is stomping your guts out, dale

thread will admit it.

You have Spurtunculus and DMC crapping their pants and then trying to convince others pants are in fact, toilets.

[tholdren]

HEALTH

State and Federal Data on COVID-19 Testing Don’t Match Up

The CDC has quietly started releasing nationwide numbers. But they contradict what states themselves are reporting

[Thread]

You feel badly for the guy that takes you to the shed?

I have a soft spot for Splits.

- "I like you Clarence. Always have. Always will."

- "E" - "True Romance"

[Thread]

You feel badly for yourself and you want the shit sandwiches to end.

No, I just do not understand the boundless commitment w/ the attendant vitriol.

[tholdren]

thread will admit it.

You have Spurtunculus and DMC crapping their pants and then trying to convince others pants are in fact, toilets.
Do you believe people should follow science during this?

[tholdren]

It’s a sad, but all too common story. According to data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, of US adults who were hospitalized for influenza infection in 2018-2019 with additional information available, 93 percent had at least one underlying medical condition. Despite overwhelming evidence of the benefits of annual flu vaccination, vaccination rates remain well below the Healthy People 2020 targets, leaving a significant portion of the population vulnerable.

[tholdren]

Strange the comparisons to Spanish flu due to the completely different demographic that was at risk.

[Will Hunting]

Tbh outside of the Christopher Walken scene I don’t understand the appeal of True Romance. Its a mediocre movie ignoring that scene.

[RandomGuy]

I said. You will never figure out the true number of deaths. Which you wont/can't. Then you respond with a deviation of an average. Not sure what you dont get about that.

And I said, we will get to a pretty close number, because we know about how statistics and probability work. I then used some standard statistics terms, and said that you appear not to understand them.

You turn around and post this, proving you don't.

If you want to take that position, you are saying that we can't use statistics to analyse the situation.

So what other proposed explanation do you have for the uptick in the death rate?
Be sure to show your work and link to some information that forms the basis of your answer.

[Thread]

“He musta thought it was white boy day. It ain’t white boy day, is it?”

- Drexl, True Romance

Never grows old, mono.

[RandomGuy]

90,000 dead / 1,400,000 cases = 6.4% mortality

90000 / 0.064 = 1.4M

.0066 is the best information we have now as to the actual rate. (from a scientific paper done on fully tested populations at the beginning of the outbbreak) Your math is correct, but your reasoning is not.

To get the actual fatality, we would have to have much better testing, which we do not.

Walk through this exercise:

How many people have the disease or have had the disease. How many of them have been tested, and confirmed? Since we have run so few tests, it stands to reason that the case number should be much higher.

Therefore the only thing we can know about the US data set is that the death rate is LOWER than 6.4%.

The problem is that the disease really isn't likely getting more deadly. Therefore as the death/case ratio gets higher, it indicates that many more people have the disease than we know and it is more widespread than we thought.

That will catch up to us.

[RandomGuy]

Some people believe that people who are tested and confirmed as well as those who died that haven't been counted are the only people in the data.

They seemingly forget that over 85 percent of people infected will have mild symptoms. They think that these people do not count. But they also argue that the virus is extremely transmissible. Lots of strange "points" being made

"They" being the made up people in your mind. This is what is known as a "Strawman".

Feel free to point to a real statement by a real person.

[Splits]

I already told you, numb nuts, that I ain't doing this silly shit, Splits.

You have a stature here, Splits, don't fuck that up.

Just put the pieces together, Dale.


Vanessa Bryant says heavy fog and low clouds prompted law enforcement agencies and tour companies to ground their helicopters, but the pilot flying Kobe and Gianna requested special clearance from air traffic control to keep flying

Was the pilot drunk? Drugged? Acting on his own?


The pilot of the helicopter that crashed in January killing Kobe Bryant and others had no alcohol or drugs in his system that day, an autopsy report shows

No? Hmmm. So why was he risking life and limb when nobody else was flying? Does it cross your mind for a second that an egomaniac and narcissist like Kirby was not the "special clearance" behind this whole mess?

Just admit it, the Count bumps stop.

[tholdren]

And I said, we will get to a pretty close number, because we know about how statistics and probability work. I then used some standard statistics terms, and said that you appear not to understand them.

You turn around and post this, proving you don't.

If you want to take that position, you are saying that we can't use statistics to analyse the situation.

So what other proposed explanation do you have for the uptick in the death rate?
Be sure to show your work and link to some information that forms the basis of your answer.
Pretty close = exact to you. Got it

[ChumpDumper]

Pretty close = exact to you. Got it:lol straw man

You're really emotional when asked directly to explain anything. You obviously can't discuss anything.

[tholdren]

:lol straw man

You're really emotional when asked directly to explain anything. You obviously can't discuss anything.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how a person who dies from alcohol poisoning is included in the science you believe in....

[ChumpDumper]

I'm still waiting for you to explain how a person who dies from alcohol poisoning is included in the science you believe in....I'm still waiting for you to explain how the virus is spread from days ago. You're far too emotional to answer. I understand. You've been rendered a blubbering mess on this board. You know there's no coming back from your embarrassment so you have to keep changing the subject and making straw men to soothe yourself.

You can't even attempt to explain how the virus is spread and all you do here is try to convince yourself you're smart. Why should anyone take you seriously?

[Thread]

Just put the pieces together, Dale.



Was the pilot drunk? Drugged? Acting on his own?



No? Hmmm. So why was he risking life and limb when nobody else was flying? Does it cross your mind for a second that an egomaniac and narcissist like Kirby was not the "special clearance" behind this whole mess?

Just admit it, the Count bumps stop.

...I'd rather be stripped down naked & beaten with a hickory switch.

[RandomGuy]

Pretty close = exact to you. Got it

"The card says moops."

"pretty close" is not exact. No. But if "pretty close" is almost certainly close enough to exact to still draw meaningful conclusions, and formulate good policy, what is the difference?

[RandomGuy]

I'm still waiting for you to explain how a person who dies from alcohol poisoning is included in the science you believe in....

I'm still waiting for you to explain the sudden massive uptick in the death rate for non-confirmed COVID causes.

Has there been a sustained hurricane or something I am not aware of? Some floods maybe? Some giant natural disaster that just happened to coincide with a pandemic?

[tholdren]

I'm still waiting for you to explain the sudden massive uptick in the death rate for non-confirmed COVID causes.

Has there been a sustained hurricane or something I am not aware of? Some floods maybe? Some giant natural disaster that just happened to coincide with a pandemic?
I appreciate you admitting you were wrong in the previous post.

Hmmm maybe it could be that sick people stayed home instead of getting treatment for other disease since they were told by the government to stay out of the over capacity hospitals that never happened.

Your turn. Tell me more about the cdc stat padding?

This is exactly the reason you will never know. The cdc doesn't know the exact count of flu deaths every year, why do you think they would suddenly have 100 percent actual covid death?

It's sad because they say trust the science, but they don't have accurate data. Probably will make people less trusting of science or vaccination. Which is not good.

They also say the spanish flu is comparable when it is not.

[pgardn]

Do you believe people should follow science during this?

I believe people should use science to help make policy.

I understand the consequences of shutting down an economy.
Science should not involve politics. people who do science are going to be political just like anyone else but the process itself can’t be political and if it is, then it’s just not usable.

Science is a very narrow human activity.
It tries to give us the most likely answers to very narrow questions that must be refutable.

[baseline bum]

Update (17 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 90,973
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Get in here Thread, it's dinner time and shit sandwiches are on the menu.

[Thread]

Update (17 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 90,973
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Get in here Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320), it's dinner time and shit sandwiches are on the menu.

Can't ya slack off just one day?

[tholdren]

I believe people should use science to help make policy.

I understand the consequences of shutting down an economy.
Science should not involve politics. people who do science are going to be political just like anyone else but the process itself can’t be political and if it is, then it’s just not usable.

Science is a very narrow human activity.
It tries to give us the most likely answers to very narrow questions that must be refutable.

Agreed.
Why do you think the cdc is comparing the spanish flu to covid if the demos are different?
How can you trust the cdc death count if they are obviously increasing the covid count?
Don't you find it odd the believe the science rhetoric when the numbers are not accurate?

I don't know the consequences of shutting down the economy. But its absurd for people to be so staunch in their opinion that shutting down the economy and ruining over 30 million peoples lives for "saving" a hypothetical amount of lives.

Is the cost of saving one life a fair trade to ruin another? What about if that person who lost their job has 2 kids. Is one life, who has already had their chance to live, worth ruining 3?

Would not want to be the person that had to make the choice, obviously a no win. This is why it shouldn't be political. The people who blame on one person are not in it for the greater good

[Thread]

Agreed.
Why do you think the cdc is comparing the spanish flu to covid if the demos are different?
How can you trust the cdc death count if they are obviously increasing the covid count?
Don't you find it odd the believe the science rhetoric when the numbers are not accurate?

I don't know the consequences of shutting down the economy. But its absurd for people to be so staunch in their opinion that shutting down the economy and ruining over 30 million peoples lives for "saving" a hypothetical amount of lives.

Is the cost of saving one life a fair trade to ruin another? What about if that person who lost their job has 2 kids. Is one life, who has already had their chance to live, worth ruining 3?

Would not want to be the person that had to make the choice, obviously a no win. This is why it shouldn't be political. The people who blame on one person are not in it for the greater good

You can't. They sold their soul to politics and now they can't get back in the public trust. I've no sympathy for them or WHO.

Their regrets are their own.

[DMC]

...I'd rather be stripped down naked & beaten with a hickory switch.

Like the last time you saw the playoffs.. that woodshed still reeks of tears and shit.

[pgardn]

Agreed.
Why do you think the cdc is comparing the spanish flu to covid if the demos are different?
How can you trust the cdc death count if they are obviously increasing the covid count?
Don't you find it odd the believe the science rhetoric when the numbers are not accurate?

I don't know the consequences of shutting down the economy. But its absurd for people to be so staunch in their opinion that shutting down the economy and ruining over 30 million peoples lives for "saving" a hypothetical amount of lives.

Is the cost of saving one life a fair trade to ruin another? What about if that person who lost their job has 2 kids. Is one life, who has already had their chance to live, worth ruining 3?

Would not want to be the person that had to make the choice, obviously a no win. This is why it shouldn't be political. The people who blame on one person are not in it for the greater good

now you are entering the realm of statistics and gathering data


my personal feeling is we are most likely under accounting due to the fact that people are dying at home. there are so many pre-existing conditions that can manifest themselves in death due to this virus I don’t know how to get an accurate count.

but if anything I believe it’s under counted

[DMC]

now you are entering the realm of statistics and gathering data


my personal feeling is we are most likely under accounting due to the fact that people are dying at home. there are so many pre-existing conditions that can manifest themselves in death due to this virus I don’t know how to get an accurate count.

but if anything I believe it’s under counted
This is bullshit. We might be undercounting but intentionally over counting to make up for an assumption is stupid.

[DMC]

Agreed.
Why do you think the cdc is comparing the spanish flu to covid if the demos are different?
How can you trust the cdc death count if they are obviously increasing the covid count?
Don't you find it odd the believe the science rhetoric when the numbers are not accurate?

I don't know the consequences of shutting down the economy. But its absurd for people to be so staunch in their opinion that shutting down the economy and ruining over 30 million peoples lives for "saving" a hypothetical amount of lives.

Is the cost of saving one life a fair trade to ruin another? What about if that person who lost their job has 2 kids. Is one life, who has already had their chance to live, worth ruining 3?

Would not want to be the person that had to make the choice, obviously a no win. This is why it shouldn't be political. The people who blame on one person are not in it for the greater good
The CDC is an extremely political organization. They've had their pee pee's whacked a few times for it.

[ElNono]

This is bullshit. We might be undercounting but intentionally over counting to make up for an assumption is stupid.

How is it bullshit? We clearly struggled to ramp up testing, and it's not like he's trying to sell you some sort of fact, he's just stating an educated opinion.

[pgardn]

This is bullshit. We might be undercounting but intentionally over counting to make up for an assumption is stupid.

You are an idiot.

Our President and you have a HUGE political reason to undercount.
Just stfu old man.

[tholdren]

now you are entering the realm of statistics and gathering data


my personal feeling is we are most likely under accounting due to the fact that people are dying at home. there are so many pre-existing conditions that can manifest themselves in death due to this virus I don’t know how to get an accurate count.

but if anything I believe it’s under counted

How can you say that? A person that died with a .55 bac was a covid counted death. And everyone dying has a preexisting condition. All of those deaths, if anything, are over counted as covid

[pgardn]

How can you say that? A person that died with a .55 bac was a covid counted death. And everyone dying has a preexisting condition. All of those deaths, if anything, are over counted as covid

so you use one anecdote and ask me how I can say that.

Think about what you’ve just done.
and then go find another to fulfill your pre-existing needs.

[tholdren]

so you use one anecdote and ask me how I can say that.

Think about what you’ve just done.
and then go find another to fulfill your pre-existing needs.
You are not smart. Everyone who is dying from this has another more serious affliction before they get covid. No one is dying without other health issues. That is not an anecdote. That is a fact.

[RandomGuy]

"The card says moops."

"pretty close" is not exact. No. But if "pretty close" is almost certainly close enough to exact to still draw meaningful conclusions, and formulate good policy, what is the difference?



I appreciate you admitting you were wrong in the previous post.

Hmmm maybe it could be that sick people stayed home instead of getting treatment for other disease since they were told by the government to stay out of the over capacity hospitals that never happened.

Your turn. Tell me more about the cdc stat padding?

This is exactly the reason you will never know. The cdc doesn't know the exact count of flu deaths every year, why do you think they would suddenly have 100 percent actual covid death?

It's sad because they say trust the science, but they don't have accurate data. Probably will make people less trusting of science or vaccination. Which is not good.

They also say the spanish flu is comparable when it is not.

"maybe it could be".

Support information?

You can filter that from the data by isolating places that didn't have overwhelmed hospitals, and comparing mortality rates of forgone procedures. You have a testible theory there, and one, presumedly, epidemiologists would know about. Why would this be more probable for any given death than COVID, given the confirmed data on its mortality?

As for "cdc stat padding" you are going to have to be more specific. Remember your lack of understanding of data analysis and statistics makes you very ill qualified to reach such conclusions.

And you still did not answer:

But if "pretty close" is almost certainly close enough to exact to still draw meaningful conclusions, and formulate good policy, what is the difference?

[RandomGuy]

The CDC is an extremely political organization. They've had their pee pee's whacked a few times for it.

Link?

I think your definition of "political" is being driven by propaganda. "political" = contradicts Trump's lies

[tholdren]

"maybe it could be".

Support information?

You can filter that from the data by isolating places that didn't have overwhelmed hospitals, and comparing mortality rates of forgone procedures. You have a testible theory there, and one, presumedly, epidemiologists would know about. Why would this be more probable for any given death than COVID, given the confirmed data on its mortality?

As for "cdc stat padding" you are going to have to be more specific. Remember your lack of understanding of data analysis and statistics makes you very ill qualified to reach such conclusions.

there is nothing to support. You are linking any death during this time to coronavirus just like the cdc. Any person with symptoms of covid, and that can be literally anything, is being counted as death by covid. Which is false. I'm not sure what more evidence you need other than going to the cdc and looking on their website how they are identifying deaths. Not with science.

But again, I ask you, how could someone with a .55 bac count as a covid death?

[clambake]

Because they died of covid

[tholdren]

Because they died of covid

No. Died of alcohol poisoning. Died of covid is what cdc said. Which is why you can't use their science.

[clambake]

No. Died of alcohol poisoning. Died of covid is what cdc said. Which is why you can't use their science.

Yes I can. Science knew and he did nothing. All the way back in November.

That’s it and that’s all

[ChumpDumper]

thildren still going on with his anecdote? He doesn't even know how the virus is spread.:lol

[pgardn]

You are not smart. Everyone who is dying from this has another more serious affliction before they get covid. No one is dying without other health issues. That is not an anecdote. That is a fact.

You are an idiot.

You have used your OWN definition for cause of death.
Thank you Mr. Coroner.
No one ever dies of the flu virus, they die of pneumonia.
Or from a heart attack because they could not get enough O2 to a bad coronary artery, because they had pneumonia...

You really need to shut up.

[tholdren]

You are an idiot.

You have used your OWN definition for cause of death.
Thank you Mr. Coroner.
No one ever dies of the flu virus, they die of pneumonia.
Or from a heart attack because they could not get enough O2 to a bad coronary artery, because they had pneumonia...

You really need to shut up.
Thanks. You proved the point

[pgardn]

Thanks. You proved the point

my contention is we have an under count.

and not for the reasons you show in your faulty argument.

let’s see someone is born and then they die, and they die because they die.
or maybe they die because they were born in the first place...

you are very persuasive.

[tholdren]

my contention is we have an under count.

and not for the reasons you show in your faulty argument.

let’s see someone is born and then they die, and they die because they die.
you are very persuasive.

There is no way to have an undercount if the count is already inflated. But all the models have been under estimated, right?

You are right about the last part. Are you contending the govt keep everyone alive forever?

[pgardn]

There is no way to have an undercount if the count is already inflated. But all the models have been under estimated, right?

You are right about the last part. Are you contending the govt keep everyone alive forever?

yes there is a way to have an under count

you are an idiot, which models are you using...

yes I contend that the government is trying to keep everyone alive forever....exactly.

you are incredibly dull.
put this guy in the Spurtacular column

[DMC]

Link?

I think your definition of "political" is being driven by propaganda. "political" = contradicts Trump's lies

No by political I mean they changed their approach based on pressure from political figures. That means their advice will be tainted by political pressure based on partisan goals. It's the nature of the Beast. It's like expecting the HR department where you work to be an employee advocate instead of a workplace advocate. They work for the company, not for the employee.

[DMC]

yes there is a way to have an under count

you are an idiot, which models are you using...

yes I contend that the government is trying to keep everyone alive forever....exactly.

you are incredibly dull.
put this guy in the Spurtacular column

There could absolutely be an under count but if you know you have an inflated count through active counting and intentionally skewed methods, you are over counting. You need to prove the undercounting not assume it.

[ChumpDumper]

There is no way to have an undercount if the count is already inflated.If the count is inflated by one unit that should not be included and a thousand that should be included but not counted, you have an undercount. You will stomp your feet and try to change the subject but you will not change that.

[tholdren]

If the count is inflated by one unit that should not be included and a thousand that should be included but not counted, you have an undercount. You will stomp your feet and try to change the subject but you will not change that.
There is no proof of an under count, only speculation, like the models.....

There is proof of inflation in multiple states. Thanks for the gossip

[DMC]

How is it bullshit? We clearly struggled to ramp up testing, and it's not like he's trying to sell you some sort of fact, he's just stating an educated opinion.

If you work for me for 40 hours and it was documented and I owed you 40 hours of pay I couldn't just assume you fucked off most of the time and not pay you. I have to document it. Undocumented deaths due to covid can't be made up for by fudging the death certificates in the other direction. If you ever been a cashier, your till being over at the end of the day doesn't make up for your till being under the day before. In both cases you're doing something wrong and not accounting for your transactions.

[DMC]

Of course I'm totally okay with doing that if there is an accuracy figure tied to it like plus or minus 25%.

[tholdren]

Of course I'm totally okay with doing that if there is an accuracy figure tied to it like plus or minus 25%.

SCIENCE DOESNT NEED ACCURATE DATA!!!

[DMC]

You are an idiot.

Our President and you have a HUGE political reason to undercount.
Just stfu old man.

You're tweaked off completely. Get back on your lithium.

[DMC]

SCIENCE DOESNT NEED ACCURATE DATA!!!

You know somewhere out in the woods there's a guy who shot himself and died and he's missing. That means there are some deaths by gunshot that have gone unaccounted for. That means if someone dies of the flu who has an old gunshot wound we can just say they died from a gun to make up for it.

[DMC]

It's like the left hands out cards with talking points and then those people on the left have to support those and defend them at any cost. As stupid as the shit is they will defend it somehow. What makes it worse is that most of the people they have doing it are fucking retards.

[ChumpDumper]

There is no proof of an under countSure there is.

[tholdren]

Sure there is.

Hahahahha the models

[ChumpDumper]

Hahahahha the modelslol no

According to you, how is the virus spread?

[tholdren]

lol no

According to you, how is the virus spread?

Didn't you post that 94 million people would die from the virus by April?

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't you post that 94 million people would die from the virus by April?Nope. I understand why you have to try to change the subject though. This is going really badly for you again.

According to you, how is the virus spread?

[pgardn]

You're tweaked off completely. Get back on your lithium.

erratic man projecting again.

if you know you must be under counting you cant assume a model must be wrong and that it must be over counting. So you’re wrong

and you were such a dork maintaining there is a political reason for Over counting while sucking orange breasts... “Oh, there’s no reason for under counting”

[pgardn]

It's like the left hands out cards with talking points and then those people on the left have to support those and defend them at any cost. As stupid as the shit is they will defend it somehow. What makes it worse is that most of the people they have doing it are fucking retards.

talking points, you are the king of talking points

“It’s like it’s like... no it’s not like...”

you and your fdup metaphors

why don’t you explain to us nature versus nurture again or how about how wind speed is measured

[pgardn]

The same red team members freaking out over a census, the irony

[DMC]

erratic man projecting again.

if you know you must be under counting you cant assume a model must be wrong and that it must be over counting. So you’re wrong

and you were such a dork maintaining there is a political reason for Over counting while sucking orange breasts... “Oh, there’s no reason for under counting”

Each individual's death certificate should have the actual cause of death. They should not be part of a statistical beef stew where you just add a little bit of this or that to get the outcome you want.

[DMC]

talking points, you are the king of talking points

“It’s like it’s like... no it’s not like...”

you and your fdup metaphors

why don’t you explain to us nature versus nurture again or how about how wind speed is measured
You and your other personalities?

[DMC]

erratic man projecting again.

if you know you must be under counting you cant assume a model must be wrong and that it must be over counting. So you’re wrong

and you were such a dork maintaining there is a political reason for Over counting while sucking orange breasts... “Oh, there’s no reason for under counting”

You don't count people you don't know about. That's pretty fucking simple. If you know about them you count them as well as you know to count them. If you find out later that people died at home from covid and you can verify that then you add them to the count. It doesn't seem like a novel concept for a novel virus.

However if you want to capture this assumption of unknown deaths based on a model, it needs to be a separate category for that. It needs to be listed as that. You don't change the death certificates of people who died of other things. Are you totally fucking retarded?

[pgardn]

You don't count people you don't know about. That's pretty fucking simple. If you know about them you count them as well as you know to count them. If you find out later that people died at home from covid and you can verify that then you add them to the count. It doesn't seem like a novel concept for a novel virus.

However if you want to capture this assumption of unknown deaths based on a model, it needs to be a separate category for that. It needs to be listed as that. You don't change the death certificates of people who died of other things. Are you totally fucking retarded?

Fckn idiot.

There are rural counties they have no idea about yet. They are there and NOT counted.
There are NOT in models because they are expected the WILL get a count.
Do you want more face slapping served?

This is a stupid as you trying to convince me that human beings are not visual animals using wind measurements.

[RandomGuy]

There could absolutely be an under count but if you know you have an inflated count through active counting and intentionally skewed methods, you are over counting. You need to prove the undercounting not assume it.

As noted before the excess deaths from the normal pace of fatalities has to have an explanation. While certainly not 100% conclusive in and of itself, if deaths have a sudden spike that coincides with a novel pandemic, and no other apparent cause, it is more than reasonable to tentatively assign some large percentage of the excess to the pandemic, especially given the fucktarded shortage of testing.

[RandomGuy]

Fckn idiot.

There are rural counties they have no idea about yet. They are there and NOT counted.
There are NOT in models because they are expected the WILL get a count.
Do you want more face slapping served?

This is a stupid as you trying to convince me that human beings are not visual animals using wind measurements.

The card says moops.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4

[TSA]

As noted before the excess deaths from the normal pace of fatalities has to have an explanation. While certainly not 100% conclusive in and of itself, if deaths have a sudden spike that coincides with a novel pandemic, and no other apparent cause, it is more than reasonable to tentatively assign some large percentage of the excess to the pandemic, especially given the fucktarded shortage of testing.

As coronavirus testing expands, a new problem arises: Not enough people to test
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/as-coronavirus-testing-expands-a-new-problem-arises-not-enough-people-to-test/2020/05/17/3f3297de-8bcd-11ea-8ac1-bfb250876b7a_story.html

[tholdren]

Fckn idiot.

There are rural counties they have no idea about yet. They are there and NOT counted.
There are NOT in models because they are expected the WILL get a count.
Do you want more face slapping served?

This is a stupid as you trying to convince me that human beings are not visual animals using wind measurements.

This is what you think?

[tholdren]

As noted before the excess deaths from the normal pace of fatalities has to have an explanation. While certainly not 100% conclusive in and of itself, if deaths have a sudden spike that coincides with a novel pandemic, and no other apparent cause, it is more than reasonable to tentatively assign some large percentage of the excess to the pandemic, especially given the fucktarded shortage of testing.

Great story.

[baseline bum]

Can't ya slack off just one day?

Speaking of that...

Update (18 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 91,976
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[DMC]

Fckn idiot.

There are rural counties they have no idea about yet. They are there and NOT counted.
There are NOT in models because they are expected the WILL get a count.
Do you want more face slapping served?

This is a stupid as you trying to convince me that human beings are not visual animals using wind measurements.

So they have no idea but they are falsifying death certificates to offset something they have no idea about? Sounds like confirmation bias.

Yes please do meltdown more, you autistic twat.

[DMC]

As coronavirus testing expands, a new problem arises: Not enough people to test
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/as-coronavirus-testing-expands-a-new-problem-arises-not-enough-people-to-test/2020/05/17/3f3297de-8bcd-11ea-8ac1-bfb250876b7a_story.html

That's a good problem but I'm afraid they all died off the radar. It's ok though, we can just fudge some death certs and catch up. I'm thinking 300K deaths, what's your call?

[tholdren]

So they have no idea but they are falsifying death certificates to offset something they have no idea about? Sounds like confirmation bias.

Yes please do meltdown more, you autistic twat.
Wonder what the flu rate would be if the cdc tabulated the way they are counting covid related death? Seems hard to compare any statistics when they don't even have a logical way to collect the data.

[ChumpDumper]

Wonder what the flu rate would be if the cdc tabulated the way they are counting covid related death? Seems hard to compare any statistics when they don't even have a logical way to collect the data.The CDC makes estimates for flu deaths every year. Just another thing you were ignorant about-- like how the coronavirus spreads. Typical. Now you will try to change the subject.

[tholdren]

The CDC makes estimates for flu deaths every year.

Yes they do.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes they do.You ever figure out how the coronavirus spreads?

[tholdren]

You ever figure out how the coronavirus spreads?
Nope. Seems like ny gov didn't either. Still allows wet markets. Oh well. Glad none of the hospitals ever hit capacity.

[pgardn]

This is absolutely useless.

Of course both teams have political animals who want to use numbers of their choosing.
But the mere fact that the red team has the giant orange liar should tell everyone something about the red team and how they fall in line.
You live by the lie, you die by the lie.

And it all started in Feb and the orange lie telling the nation this was nothing.
So then the red team throws a tantrum when the blue team exaggerates (and almost seems to wish for higher numbers).
Congrats on producing enemies wishing to punch below the belt just like you do.

Leading by dividing, fantastic job.

[tholdren]

This is absolutely useless.

Of course both teams have political animals who want to use numbers of their choosing.
But the mere fact that the red team has the giant orange liar should tell everyone something about the red team and how they fall in line.
You live by the lie, you die by the lie.

And it all started in Feb and the orange lie telling the nation this was nothing.
So then the red team throws a tantrum when the blue team exaggerates (and almost seems to wish for higher numbers).
Congrats on producing enemies wishing to punch below the belt just like you do.

Leading by dividing, fantastic job.
Ironic you tried to post about divisiveness, yet your whole post is littered with name calling and widening the political divide. You've been duped.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope.Thanks for admitting your ignorance. Acknowledging you have a problem is the first step.

[pgardn]

Ironic you tried to post about divisiveness, yet your whole post is littered with name calling and widening the political divide. You've been duped.

This how the orange guy wanted it so hes got it.
Ive been duped into never considering him a leader.
Do you consider him a leader?


Anyone Else 2020

[DMC]

UK, Italy, France.. 192m combined population, give or take a mil or so. US 330m.

UK, Italy, France combined has as many if not more deaths from the virus than the US. Are they all doing shitty jobs?

[ChumpDumper]

UK, Italy, France.. 192m combined population, give or take a mil or so. US 330m.

UK, Italy, France combined has as many if not more deaths from the virus than the US. Are they all doing shitty jobs?Could be. How many countries are doing better than us, per capita?

[spurraider21]

Speaking of that...

Update (18 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 91,976
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
:lmao even trump calling it a plague

1262020427582451717

get your ass in here Thread

[Thread]

:lmao even trump calling it a plague

1262020427582451717

get your ass in here Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320)

Christ, I wake up middle of the night to this?

Let me get my readers on so I can see what he said here..."REALLY, well, solving, happen." Got it. Got the highlights.

Listen, I'll boil it down for ya's: he's doing what we always do:::the old man sends us in search of jacks & timbers. "Thank you, base. Now, with these jacks & timbers let us start back down."

[baseline bum]

Christ, I wake up middle of the night to this?

Let me get my readers on so I can see what he said here..."REALLY, well, solving, happen." Got it. Got the highlights.

Listen, I'll boil it down for ya's: he's doing what we always do:::the old man sends us in search of jacks & timbers. "Thank you, base. Now, with these jacks & timbers let us start back down."

LOL low information president telling the 30% he thinks we'll have a cure and/or vaccine soon for the Trump Plague.

[DMC]

Could be. How many countries are doing better than us, per capita?

Use Google (your best friend)

[boutons_deux]

The CDC makes estimates for flu deaths every year. Just another thing you were ignorant about-- like how the coronavirus spreads. Typical. Now you will try to change the subject.

and they predict a severe or less severe flu season

Due to flu viruses mutating, flu vaccine is ineffective for many flu viruses every year.

Vaccine development and extensive testing before inoculating 100Ms or Bs take months.

Even if Serranto's vaccine has perfect run through the next two testing phases, it won't be available until late 2020 or early 2021, and IF manufacturing can produce it reliably and in volume.

Only 10% of such drugs make it all the way.

Various treatments, with FDA-approved drugs, should be available much sooner.

I, for one, strongly prefer vaccination to being infected and treated.

[Thread]

LOL low information president telling the 30% he thinks we'll have a cure and/or vaccine soon for the Trump Plague.

Maybe he will, it's not like the Gov't medicos will not come up with it on purpose.

The ones outside the wire who don't care about politics and only want to make a dollar & cent are working night & day in order to not so much save another 1/2 million lives, but, rather to= "make our fortune, boys." - "Wyatt Earp"---"Tombstone"

[spurraider21]

Maybe he will, it's not like the Gov't medicos will not come up with it on purpose.

The ones outside the wire who don't care about politics and only want to make a dollar & cent are working night & day in order to not so much save another 1/2 million lives, but, rather to= "make our fortune, boys." - "Wyatt Earp"---"Tombstone"
Boiled down:::

The Plague remains

[Thread]

Boiled down:::

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[spurraider21]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.
Plague

[Thread]

Plague

Not enough, to erase Election Night 2016, huh?

tee, hee.

[spurraider21]

Not enough, to erase Election Night 2016, huh?

tee, hee.
nobody claimed it would

trump got elected and he has brought the Plague upon us

[tholdren]

This how the orange guy wanted it so hes got it.
Ive been duped into never considering him a leader.
Do you consider him a leader?


Anyone Else 2020

Lol. Politcal rage makes you emotional. Like chumpdumper. Quick find someone to blame.

[ChumpDumper]

Use Google (your best friend)Aw, DeflectMC's upset.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol. Politcal rage makes you emotional. Like chumpdumper. Quick find someone to blame.Your ignorance makes you emotional. You don't even know how the virus is spread and it fills you with rage.

[clambake]

Aw, DeflectMC's upset.

It’s DIabetic Man Cow

[DMC]

It’s DIabetic Man Cow

:lol

Definitely Manhandled Clambake

[clambake]

The only thing you handle is endless amounts of food and random pics of men, man cow

Thanks for posting your fatness, lol

[tholdren]

Your ignorance makes you emotional. You don't even know how the virus is spread and it fills you with rage.

Rage? No. Disbelief regarding your arguments, yes. What level of emotions does a person with 109k posts have?

[ChumpDumper]

Rage? No. Disbelief regarding your arguments, yes.Oh, so what is your argument?

According to you, how is the virus spread?

Put aside your emotions and just answer the question.

[tholdren]

Oh, so what is your argument?

According to you, how is the virus spread?

Put aside your emotions and just answer the question.
Seems as if you don't know. Is that why you are asking me? Cdc doesn't even know. .55 bac = coronavirus

[ChumpDumper]

Seems as if you don't know. Is that why you are asking me? Cdc doesn't even know. .55 bac = coronavirusOh, another deflection attempt. Seems like you don't know. That's why you're constantly trying to change the subject. Set aside your fears and emotions and just answer the question to the best of your limited knowledge:

According to you, how is the virus spread?

[tholdren]

Oh, another deflection attempt. Seems like you don't know. That's why you're constantly trying to change the subject. Set aside your fears and emotions and just answer the question to the best of your limited knowledge:

According to you, how is the virus spread?

I'm serious. Only through alcohol. That is why coronavirus killed the man with the .55 bac. Alcohol is coronavirus.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm serious.Seriously deflecting.

[tholdren]

Seriously deflecting.
How could I know that a person with a .55bac didn't die of alcojol poison. I have to believe the cdc. They said it was true. Just like they said 200k people would die a day and all hospitals everywhere would be overrun. They didn't really furlough people btw. I'm with you. Open wet markets everywhere just like NYC!!

[ChumpDumper]

How could I know that a person with a .55bac didn't die of alcojol poison. I have to believe the cdc. They said it was true. Just like they said 200k people would die a day and all hospitals everywhere would be overrun. They didn't really furlough people btw. I'm with you. Open wet markets everywhere just like NYC!!:lol meltdown

[tholdren]

:lol meltdown
No way, I'm agreeing with you. You were right.

[ChumpDumper]

No way, I'm agreeing with you. You were right.You agree with me when I say you're in full meltdown.:tu

[tholdren]

You agree with me when I say you're in full meltdown.:tu

Whatever you say. The real fatality numbers going to be in the billions. Time to colonize Mars

[ChumpDumper]

Whatever you say.I say you're afraid of me and I made you go into meltdown.:tu

[tholdren]

I say you're afraid of me and I made you go into meltdown.:tu

No I'm just agreeing with you. You were right. I do t know why I didn't really believe the models. I know there were no furloughs. You were right.

[ChumpDumper]

No I'm just agreeing with you. You were right. Yep. I said you're a liar and ignorant and afraid to actually say anything. I'm right. Thanks for agreeing with me.:tu

[tholdren]

Yep. I said you're a liar and ignorant and afraid to actually say anything. I'm right. Thanks for agreeing with me.:tu

I know. I'm sorry you were right about the hospitals, all of them, being overcrowded and you were right about the no furloughs. Man you are smart.

[ChumpDumper]

I know. I'm sorry you were right about the hospitals, all of them, being overcrowded and you were right about the no furloughs. Man you are smart.You agree when I say you have lied in every conversation you've ever had on this board and that you're just a weak minded little girl.:tu

[tholdren]

You agree when I say you have lied in every conversation you've ever had on this board and that you're just a weak minded little girl.:tu

oh man you are so right about how this virus spreads and how the government should have handled it. Tell me more because I forget....

[ChumpDumper]

oh man you are so rightAbout your lying and your abject fear of me.

Sure.:tu

You may continue with your meltdown.

[tholdren]

About your lying and fear of me.

Sure.:tu

Yes, I know. I just didn't know how to read editorials for facts. But now that you have persuaded me about the science behind the virus and the correct models, and the list of hospitals that were over capicity, you know the ones, I would love for everyone else to see them

This way everyone could thank you

[ChumpDumper]

:cry:lol I got you melting down all over the board.

[tholdren]

:lol I got you melting down all over the board.
Just show the evidence that you told me you have about the fake furloughs

[ChumpDumper]

Just show the evidence that you told me you have about the fake furloughs:lol wut?

[DarrinS]

It's strange that Birx thinks the count is too high, but Fouci thinks the count is too low. Both can't be right.

[tholdren]

:lol wut?

When you said those models were science and that since the disease was so dangerous and transmittance to gop lied about furloughs to get the economy going

[ChumpDumper]

When you said those models were science and that since the disease was so dangerous and transmittance to gop lied about furloughs to get the economy going:lol wut? You can't even keep track of your own lies. You take some meth?

[tholdren]

:lol wut? You can't even keep track of your own lies. You take some meth?

so you don't believe the models and you think the furloughs are real?

[ChumpDumper]

so you don't believe the models and you think the furloughs are real?Furloughs have always been real. Models are models.

According to you, how is the virus spread?

[tholdren]

Furloughs have always been real. Models are models.

According to you, how is the virus spread?
So now you are back to the furloughs being real and the models, correct?

[ChumpDumper]

So now you are back to the furloughs being real and the models, correct?When did I say furloughs did not happen?

Show your evidence.

[tholdren]

When did I say furloughs did not happen?

Show your evidence.

Why do you keep flip flopping? Furloughs are real. But the models you are saying are science all said every state would be overwhelmed. How can this be? Its Donald trump who made the models so that he could furlough healthcare workers everywhere. You are so right.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you keep flip flopping? Furloughs are real. But the models you are saying are science all said every state would be overwhelmed. How can this be? Its Donald trump who made the models so that he could furlough healthcare workers everywhere. You are so right.I know it's difficult for you to focus in the middle of your meltdown, but answer this question:

When did I say furloughs did not happen?

Let's deal with your lies one at a time.

[baseline bum]

Christ, I wake up middle of the night to this?

Let me get my readers on so I can see what he said here..."REALLY, well, solving, happen." Got it. Got the highlights.

Listen, I'll boil it down for ya's: he's doing what we always do:::the old man sends us in search of jacks & timbers. "Thank you, base. Now, with these jacks & timbers let us start back down."

Speaking of that...

Update (19 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 93,533
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

Amazing that Trump has decided he's just gonna bs his way through the pandemic. From the vantage of today, it appears that's been the plan all along.

[FrostKing]

Amazing that Trump has decided he's just gonna bs his way through the pandemic. From the vantage of today, it appears that's been the plan all along.
You love riding the Trump rollercoaster

[RandomGuy]

When you said those models were science and that since the disease was so dangerous and transmittance to gop lied about furloughs to get the economy going

Dude this doesn't even make grammatical sense. Slow down.

[boutons_deux]

Amazing that Trump has decided he's just gonna bs his way through the pandemic. From the vantage of today, it appears that's been the plan all along.

and it appears that Repug governors, like FL Desantis are echoing the cheerleading BS, hiding number for cases and deaths, aggressive re-opening, and cheerleading the low-end of the labor market to take all the risks.

[RandomGuy]

Speaking of that...

Update (19 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 93,533
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Going to break 100k before the end of the month, likely in a few days.

Spitballing it:
The next 100k will be June, as the rest of the country accelerates and NY slows down. July probably about the same. 300k by September, even if we start slowing down.

500k by end of year seems plausible. Fuck.

Every time Der Trumpenfuehrer plays down the count or says it won't get higher than some lowball number he heard on fox infotainment adds another clip for a Lincoln project ad.

Election season is going to be a brutal hammering of Republican hypocrisy and stupidity. I can't wait.

[Thread]

Going to break 100k before the end of the month, likely in a few days.

Spitballing it:
The next 100k will be June, as the rest of the country accelerates and NY slows down. July probably about the same. 300k by September, even if we start slowing down.

500k by end of year seems plausible. Fuck.

Every time Der Trumpenfuehrer plays down the count or says it won't get higher than some lowball number he heard on fox infotainment adds another clip for a Lincoln project ad.

Election season is going to be a brutal hammering of Republican hypocrisy and stupidity. I can't wait.

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[DMC]

Going to break 100k before the end of the month, likely in a few days.

Spitballing it:
The next 100k will be June, as the rest of the country accelerates and NY slows down. July probably about the same. 300k by September, even if we start slowing down.

500k by end of year seems plausible. Fuck.

Every time Der Trumpenfuehrer plays down the count or says it won't get higher than some lowball number he heard on fox infotainment adds another clip for a Lincoln project ad.

Election season is going to be a brutal hammering of Republican hypocrisy and stupidity. I can't wait.

Good round number milestones are very important. 99999 whoever that victim is was not important but 100,000 there's the important one.

[hater]

Good round number milestones are very important. 99999 whoever that victim is was not important but 100,000 there's the important one.

“but but china!” look over there! china!

[RandomGuy]

Good round number milestones are very important. 99999 whoever that victim is was not important but 100,000 there's the important one.

Strawman #1. Probably going to be hard to keep up with your lies, but hey, gotta start somewhere.

[DMC]

“but but china!” look over there! china!

No telling how many deaths China has but no one gives a shit because obviously they're not real human beings.

[DMC]

Strawman #1. Probably going to be hard to keep up with your lies, but hey, gotta start somewhere.

At what point do you stop counting deaths from covid? Are you still counting flu deaths? How many have there been over the last 10 years?

[baseline bum]

At what point do you stop counting deaths from covid?

So you're advocating for the US to follow in China's footsteps?

[tholdren]

So you're advocating for the US to follow in China's footsteps?

the government / cdc can't even find a logical way to count deaths consistently. That science.

[DMC]

So you're advocating for the US to follow in China's footsteps?

No

China stopped months ago. The flatline in their results cannot be duplicated by the US now and the CDC will always track the deaths, but like all novelties, the counting by the general public will fade away and they will just be statistics.

[baseline bum]

No

China stopped months ago. The flatline in their results cannot be duplicated by the US now and the CDC will always track the deaths, but like all novelties, the counting by the general public will fade away and they will just be statistics.

So we should have just followed their lead and stop at 3500?

[tholdren]

So we should have just followed their lead and stop at 3500?

Not relevant

[hater]

No telling how many deaths China has but no one gives a shit because obviously they're not real human beings.

oh look Im edgy because I use racist views!!

so edgy

[DMC]

So we should have just followed their lead and stop at 3500?

I just said no.

I asked a simple question - when are we going to stop counting?

[DMC]

oh look Im edgy because I use racist views!!

so edgy

You don't get sarcasm very well. I've seen multiple times when you fail to grasp satire.

Also, Chinese isn't a race.

[baseline bum]

I just said no.

I asked a simple question - when are we going to stop counting?

Why should we stop counting?

[hater]

You don't get sarcasm very well. I've seen multiple times when you fail to grasp satire.

Also, Chinese isn't a race.

oh look I will say its sarcasm when called out on my edgy racism!

[DMC]

Why should we stop counting?

The general public, when will we no longer care about death counts from a particular virus? Do you keep up with influenza deaths? I don't. I can find the stats if I need to, but I don't keep up with them.

[DMC]

oh look I will say its sarcasm when called out on my edgy racism!

:lol I'm not the one who let them die - that would be the leadership of China. Take it up with him (would that make you racist?)

[DMC]

My guess is that if a democrat wins the election, the counting will become more and more sporadic, the news media will mostly focus on the upcoming Nobel prize for winning the election. If the dems lose again, the counting will become more and more prominent.

[hater]

:lol I'm not the one who let them die - that would be the leadership of China. Take it up with him (would that make you racist?)

oh look china!

[baseline bum]

The general public, when will we no longer care about death counts from a particular virus? Do you keep up with influenza deaths? I don't. I can find the stats if I need to, but I don't keep up with them.

Ah it's just the flu. Nonsense, it has killed roughly 100,000 Americans in roughly two months. People need to know how dangerous this novel virus is and not just write it off like it's the flu, and the much larger death count drives that point home. Especially if they get it they need to know they can't act like it's just the flu and seek treatment more aggressively than people would be predisposed to do for the flu.

[baseline bum]

My guess is that if a democrat wins the election, the counting will become more and more sporadic, the news media will mostly focus on the upcoming Nobel prize for winning the election. If the dems lose again, the counting will become more and more prominent.

I'll keep the count updated for you if I'm not in the mass graves with Thread by then.

[baseline bum]

Almost forgot cubby's dinner

Update (20 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 94,994
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[hater]

Almost forgot cubby's dinner

Update (20 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 94,994
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

damn we hitting 100k on Memorial Day

Memorial Day Massacre

[DMC]

Ah it's just the flu. Nonsense, it has killed roughly 100,000 Americans in roughly two months. People need to know how dangerous this novel virus is and not just write it off like it's the flu, and the much larger death count drives that point home. Especially if they get it they need to know they can't act like it's just the flu and seek treatment more aggressively than people would be predisposed to do for the flu.

You're talking about need. I am talking about tendency. Eventually people won't click the links to see the latest updates on death counts. It happens during wars as well. That first soldier death is reported, then a few more die and no one really says much until a nice round number like "deaths in XXX country hit 100" or "1000" and some cool comparison or milestone is reached "that's as many deaths as in the entire Afghanistan war.."

So we hit 100K deaths, more than Vietnam.. are we now targeting the Spanish Flu and after that will we just stop counting or will it fade earlier?

[baseline bum]

damn we hitting 100k on Memorial Day

Memorial Day Massacre

Thankfully it doesn't look like we're headed to that 3k dead per day by June 1st projection any more. Wonder if it's showing itself to be seasonal like flus?

[DMC]

damn we hitting 100k on Memorial Day

Memorial Day Massacre

^right on cue.. nice round number narrative with cool title to mark the occasion. Yeah it's really serious.

[hater]

Thankfully it doesn't look like we're headed to that 3k dead per day by June 1st projection any more. Wonder if it's showing itself to be seasonal like flus?

didnt deaths spike up last couple days? hopefully its as you say

[DMC]

I'll keep the count updated for you if I'm not in the mass graves with Thread by then.

The count doesn't mean anything to me now though. We lose about 1K per day and there's a downward trend. If it's 20 fewer I'd not notice, but the loved ones of those 20 people did. You probably have antibodies. If you want an antibody test let me know via PM.

[hater]

^right on cue.. nice round number narrative with cool title to mark the occasion. Yeah it's really serious.

“its a badge of honor”

[baseline bum]

You're talking about need. I am talking about tendency. Eventually people won't click the links to see the latest updates on death counts. It happens during wars as well. That first soldier death is reported, then a few more die and no one really says much until a nice round number like "deaths in XXX country hit 100" or "1000" and some cool comparison or milestone is reached "that's as many deaths as in the entire Afghanistan war.."

So we hit 100K deaths, more than Vietnam.. are we now targeting the Spanish Flu and after that will we just stop counting or will it fade earlier?

It's pretty doubtful the virus will stop getting top billing in the press until we start nearing herd immunity levels. Your war analogy doesn't really hold here because Americans weren't going out an seeing Viet-Cong in the streets every day while Americans will be around SARSCov2 constantly until there is a vaccine or this virus burns itself out.

[DMC]

“its a badge of honor”

Hey dude I'm not innocent either. I do the same shit even if it's dead serious, but I never hear people talking about the death count any longer. Now it's just business as usual with some differences in daily routines.

[baseline bum]

didnt deaths spike up last couple days? hopefully its as you say

They always do that on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and drop off on either Sundays and Mondays or Saturdays and Sundays, I forget which.

[hater]

Hey dude I'm not innocent either. I do the same shit even if it's dead serious, but I never hear people talking about the death count any longer. Now it's just business as usual with some differences in daily routines.

“I never hear people talking abou the death count”

just because you dont hear it dont mean there are no people talking about it and following closely.

hell, me and bum are still following

my worst fears back in Feb were 100k+ deaths

worst fears realized and still going

[hater]

They always do that on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and drop off on either Sundays and Mondays or Saturdays and Sundays, I forget which.

I never believed wed go back to 3k so quick tbqh I called it

but reaching 100k is sobering

I dont see how we wont go back to 3k a day in the fall with all these “reopenings” and flu

My clients at the big banks have told me the big banks are not opening their offices back until September at the earliest. they know whats up

oh another tidbit from my clients

they will require employees to NOT take public transport anymore.

poor peasants that have to smh

[baseline bum]

I never believed wed go back to 3k so quick tbqh I called it

but reaching 100k is sobering

I dont see how we wont go back to 3k a day in the fall with all these “reopenings” and flu

My clients at the big banks have told me the big banks are not opening their offices back until September at the earliest. they know whats up

oh another tidbit from my clients

they will require employees to NOT take public transport anymore.

poor peasants that have to smh

At that time 3k didn't exactly sound crazy with us at 2k per day and the nation opening up.

[ChumpDumper]

The count doesn't mean anything to me now though.It never meant anything to you before because you were stupid enough to go all in on Trump before it hit. Now it's all about your ego, which is all matters to you.

All we're going to get from you is tubby backflips and deflections.

[DMC]

It never meant anything to you before because you were stupid enough to go all in on Trump before it hit. Now it's all about your ego, which is all matters to you.

All we're going to get from you is tubby backflips and deflections.

:lmao can't stand alone

[DMC]

“I never hear people talking abou the death count”

just because you dont hear it dont mean there are no people talking about it and following closely.

hell, me and bum are still following

my worst fears back in Feb were 100k+ deaths

worst fears realized and still going

You're following to scoreboard against Dale.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao can't stand aloneWhat would standing alone mean when reading your posts?

[DMC]

What would standing alone mean when reading your posts?

I don't give a shit how you look when you read my posts. You used "we" in your response. Figure it out, you have a lot of posting experience to lean on. Maybe you mean you and Pavlov.

[clambake]

I don't give a shit how you look when you read my posts. You used "we" in your response. Figure it out, you have a lot of posting experience to lean on. Maybe you mean you and Pavlov.

Why don’t you send him pictures of men you lust to be?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't give a shit how you look when you read my posts. You used "we" in your response. Figure it out, you have a lot of posting experience to lean on. Maybe you mean you and Pavlov.I mean anyone who reads your posts.

:lol you're melting down over a perfectly appropriate "we."

[ChumpDumper]

Why don’t you send him pictures of men you lust to be?He's got personal info files on several men. He wants men to know about him too but few care.

[clambake]

He wants 500 dollars for sending men pictures of men he lusts to be.

[ChumpDumper]

He wants 500 dollars for sending men pictures of men he lusts to be.Which does he need more-- the money or the contact with men?

[clambake]

Which does he need more-- the money or the contact with men?

He’s praying that the dems will send him more money

[Thread]

You're following to scoreboard against Dale.

& for Clammy to send him naked pictures of me.

[DMC]

& for Clammy to send him naked pictures of me.

If he needs any I can probably help - Chuckbox clear as day in the background

[Thread]

If he needs any I can probably help - Chuckbox clear as day in the background

lol!!! Seems like a lifetime ago, D.

What was that kid's name I was going to meet over there?

[Thread]

Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) you gettin hungry?

Leave me alone. It's Thursday, the new Friday since (19). Every week day is Friday now.

Hit me me on the weekend.

[baseline bum]

Leave me alone. It's Thursday, the new Friday since (19). Every week day is Friday now.

Hit me me on the weekend.

It's not dinner time yet cubby. Go fuck your mother some more until then.

[DMC]

lol!!! Seems like a lifetime ago, D.

What was that kid's name I was going to meet over there?

:lol that was DoK..

He still posts here.

good times

[Thread]

:lol that was DoK..

He still posts here.

good times

That's right!

Yep, good times. Life has changed too much since then.

[Splits]

That's right!

Yep, good times. Life has changed too much since then.


Sure has... 2 months from 487 to 100,000

[tholdren]

Sure has... 2 months from 487 to 100,000
Wonder what percent of those numbers are real

[ChumpDumper]

Wonder what percent of those numbers are realTell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

[spurraider21]

Wonder what percent of those numbers are real
good point. probably tens of thousands of unreported deaths before they were able to test. probably closer to 150k tbh

[tholdren]

good point. probably tens of thousands of unreported deaths before they were able to test. probably closer to 150k tbh

probably. What about the over reporting? You know because a multitude of those are anyone who had any symptom of any illness = covid.

[tholdren]

Tell us what you sway the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.
I'll just let you talk about modeling and exponential growth lol

[ChumpDumper]

probably. What about the over reporting? You know because a multitude of those are anyone who had any symptom of any illness = covid.Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

[ChumpDumper]

[immediately changes subject]Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

[tholdren]

Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

Remember when you said that every hospital would be overrun and I said none would. Is this kind of like that?

[ChumpDumper]

Remember when you said that every hospital would be overrunNo. I never said that.

Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

[tholdren]

No, show me the link.

Step up.

Bwahahah you did. And you said this was just like the kansas flu. wrong

You lost. And your metlitng down. We get it. You can't handle this. Being wrong. All the time. After your emotional predictions. Dagnabbit those nasty political party members. They did this.

Lol you got problems. Even more than ignorance. Mean old republican man, he's the only one that did this in the entire world. And the models prove it.

[ChumpDumper]

Bwahahah you didNope. Your meltdown won't change that.

Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

[tholdren]

Nope. Your meltdown won't change that.

Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

Lololol
Coronavirus 'does not spread easily' by touching surfaces or objects, CDC says. But it still 'may be possible.

[ChumpDumper]

[attempted subject change]Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

[tholdren]

Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

I've got a question for you. Before I told you so, would you still belive that it was the kansas flu, that ny didn't have wet markets, that only China had wet markets, that all hospitals would be overrun..?

Looks like me 5 you 0

Oh no.

[ChumpDumper]

[immediate subject change with several lies]Tell us what you say the numbers should be.

Stick with the science and don't change the subject.

It's OK to admit you can't come up with any numbers and you're just idly bitching.

[baseline bum]

That's right!

Yep, good times. Life has changed too much since then.

Update (21 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 96,210
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[clambake]

Update (21 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 96,210
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
Too bad trump hid the information from all of us, and especially New York. He is easily responsible for it.

[baseline bum]

Too bad trump hid the information from all of us, and especially New York. He is easily responsible for it.

It was a worthy sacrifice though to give Republican senators Burr and Loughner time to dump their stock while Wall Street didn't know.

[hater]

100k on Memorial Day

God Damn Giusseppe

so dissapointing smh

[baseline bum]

Update (22 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 97,608
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[tholdren]

Update (22 May 2020):::
Trump's Corona Plague dead: 97,608
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...
No one is dumber than this guy
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/illinois-construction-workers-traveling-to-wisconsin-to-work-on-pritzkers-farm-amid-stay-at-home-order

[ElNono]

What's the count on TrumPest right now? did it go over 100k yet?

[DarrinS]

What's the count on TrumPest right now? did it go over 100k yet?

Weirdly excited about death count. Giddy

[ElNono]

Weirdly excited about death count. Giddy

Not at all. Curious. Haven't kept up with the numbers.

[spurraider21]

deaths in the US continue to decline :tu

https://i.gyazo.com/daae235244a2766c93611f74604679e4.png

new cases on a more gradual decline

https://i.gyazo.com/e298c0b89cb80ac0316b73891a022507.png

[baseline bum]

deaths in the US continue to decline :tu

98,000 down to zero

[TimDunkem]

98,000 down to zero
Deaths lag and these deaths represent the apex of social distancing. I wonder what the numbers will look like in July.

[spurraider21]

98,000 down to zero
daily breh

[spurraider21]

Deaths lag and these deaths represent the apex of social distancing. I wonder what the numbers will look like in July.
deaths lag, but new cases are also declining and have been for some time

of course these are national numbers, and there might be certain areas that will have ups and others with downs

[tholdren]

98,000 down to zero

Doesn't understand science

[pgardn]

Doesn't understand science

Thats not science, thats a graph formed from fairly questionable data (we try our best with the tools we have).
YOU dont understand science.

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't understand science
If you actually understand the science, you're afraid to explain it yourself. Which is hilarious.