Coronavirus treatments and vaccines thread

[baseline bum]

Correct. Those 2 points are not mutually exclusive.

Makes no sense. Pick a lane.

[hater]

Makes no sense. Pick a lane.

Science dont pick lanes.

Follow the science :tu

[Winehole23]

J&J

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[Winehole23]

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[leemajors]

J&J

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Did you sign up for the UT Health study?

[Ef-man]

Foldren is low iq, should not get vax, and should get deathly sick. Plus folds as usual.

Wonder what happened to foldren?

Did death visit his nursing home and give him a bwahahajajaja?

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9cjy3Rydc

[Winehole23]

Did you sign up for the UT Health study?no, but my S/O did

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9cjy3RydcLet me guess -- zinc and Ivermectin?

[ElNono]

J&J

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evc1FenXEAI6u-N?format=jpg&name=large

Looks like it makes you dick bigger over time?

[Ef-man]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evc1FenXEAI6u-N?format=jpg&name=large

Looks like it makes you dick bigger over time?

TBH, getting blue varicose veins on dick, as in chart, does not look right but better than getting sick.

[boutons_deux]

Moderna vs. Pfizer:

Both Knockouts, but One Seems to Have the Edge

A series of studies found that the Moderna vaccine seemed to be more protective as the months passed than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

Here’s why.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/22/health/covid-moderna-pfizer-vaccines.html

[Winehole23]

your people, DarrinS?

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[DarrinS]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/
Is this your passive aggressive claim that Ivermectin is causing this?

Step up.

[hater]

:tu :tu :tu

Would instantly move there.but too cold

:tu

https://twitter.com/LOKenyon/status/1441360994421207052?s=19

[Winehole23]

great idea :tu



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALi1aGVgAYpbnd?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ElNono]

great idea :tu

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALi1aGVgAYpbnd?format=jpg&name=900x900

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Thread]

great idea :tu



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALi1aGVgAYpbnd?format=jpg&name=900x900

Or, that cocksucker squattin' the White House could just divulge his (plan).
tee, hee.

[SnakeBoy]

great idea :tu



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALi1aGVgAYpbnd?format=jpg&name=900x900

Live attenuated virus intranasal vaccine would be nice tbh

Fauci & Co aren't interested. Old tech and they want new toys to play with.

[hater]

Live attenuated virus intranasal vaccine would be nice tbh

Fauci & Co aren't interested. Old tech and they want new toys to play with.

Cuba already advanced w that tbqh

Cuba

Great empire :tu

[ElNono]

Live attenuated virus intranasal vaccine would be nice tbh

Fauci & Co aren't interested. Old tech and they want new toys to play with.

There's a bunch in clinical testing already...

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/intranasal-covid-19-vaccine-effective-animal-studies

https://www.biospace.com/article/bharat-biotech-soon-to-begin-phase-ii-testing-of-intranasal-covid-19-vaccine-/

You niggas bitch if vaccines get emergency approval, then bitch if they take their time...

[Ef-man]

great idea :tu



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALi1aGVgAYpbnd?format=jpg&name=900x900

:lmao

No wonder trump loves him.

[SnakeBoy]

There's a bunch in clinical testing already...

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/intranasal-covid-19-vaccine-effective-animal-studies

https://www.biospace.com/article/bharat-biotech-soon-to-begin-phase-ii-testing-of-intranasal-covid-19-vaccine-/

You niggas bitch if vaccines get emergency approval, then bitch if they take their time...

I didn't bitch about emergency approval and I've been saying they need to speed up Codagenix intranasal vaccine for a long time.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/codagenix-announces-safety-immunogenicity-data-110000763.html

Fauci & Co aren't willing to direct funds towards it because it's "older tech" and they only want new toys out of this crisis.

[ElNono]

I didn't bitch about emergency approval and I've been saying they need to speed up Codagenix intranasal vaccine for a long time.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/codagenix-announces-safety-immunogenicity-data-110000763.html

Fauci & Co aren't willing to direct funds towards it because it's "older tech" and they only want new toys out of this crisis.

Link? I can't find a single quote where Fauci is shitting on these things...

[Winehole23]

Cuba already advanced w that tbqh

Cuba

Great empire :tu"follow the science", hater

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[Winehole23]

Cuba is reportedly 75% vaccinated as of today, might be over 90% by the end of next month.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cuba-says-abdala-vaccine-9228-effective-against-coronavirus-2021-06-21/

[Winehole23]

most vaccinated in the US: Puerto Rico

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALGKDKWEAAAwXX?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

there never was a "perfect vaccine"

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[Winehole23]

this is how they're making money off it, DarrinS

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[SnakeBoy]

this is how they're making money off it, DarrinS

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conspiracy theories good now

[DMC]

Cuba is reportedly 75% vaccinated as of today, might be over 90% by the end of next month.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cuba-says-abdala-vaccine-9228-effective-against-coronavirus-2021-06-21/
First you stan for India now Cuba? :lol

North Korea reportedly has zero COVID cases.

[Winehole23]

First you stan for India now Cuba? :lol

North Korea reportedly has zero COVID cases.reportedly

repost =/= endorsement

you sure are touchy, tho :lol

[Winehole23]

the US has the most case/deaths of anyone worldwide and cumulatively. and right now.

it stands to reason a lot other countries have handled their shit better than us.

[Thread]

the US has the most case/deaths of anyone worldwide and cumulatively. and right now.

it stands to reason a lot other countries have handled their shit better than us.

You're right. 10 million active cases, with California claiming over 2 million of the 10 million. Just a 1% kill rate and it's 100,000 dead Americans among the 10 million active cases.

All on mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.

[Thread]

the US has the most case/deaths of anyone worldwide and cumulatively. and right now.

it stands to reason a lot other countries have handled their shit better than us.

Well, daddy, we're waiting on that "plan" that mother fucker Biden is holding onto for dear life.

Gonna be a big shot with a big plan. He ain't shit on a shingle. Just another cocksucker in the line.

No more big shot.

[DarrinS]

the US has the most case/deaths of anyone worldwide and cumulatively. and right now.

it stands to reason a lot other countries have handled their shit better than us.

Fat

[Winehole23]

Fat"it's just a little flu"

"face-diaper"

"Fauci-ouchie"

"it's over now, back to normal"

"let 'er rip"

[Winehole23]

lack of rapid testing
lack of contact tracing
lax quarantine/travel rules
bad messaging
bad ventilation
general failure to adapt messaging and non-medical interventions to the reality of airborne transmission
weak vaccine rollout


there are a few factors besides "fat"

[DarrinS]

"it's just a little flu"

"face-diaper"

"Fauci-ouchie"

"it's over now, back to normal"

"let 'er rip"


Number one risk factor, adjusted for age, is obesity.

Sorry

[Winehole23]

Number one risk factor, adjusted for age, is obesity.

Sorrylife is way more complex than your mind

sorry

[DarrinS]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-obese-countries

[Winehole23]

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[SnakeBoy]

1443003179059355653


Todays libs smh

[ElNono]

1443003179059355653


Todays libs smh

:lmao that was great, do you have more clips of that show?

[Winehole23]

1443003179059355653


Todays libs smhwhy are you hiding the tweet?

are you ashamed of it, or just sending smoke signals to the derp/hater/thread/DMC clique?

[SnakeBoy]

why are you hiding the tweet?

are you ashamed of it, or just sending smoke signals to the derp/hater/thread/DMC clique?

wut

[Winehole23]

oh, colbert

ceased being funny a decade ago, at least

[Adam Lambert]

The great thing about ST conservatives is they can be counted on to post takes from the unfunny liberals no one cares about AND the unfunny conservatives no one cares about!

Truly fair and balanced. :tu

[Winehole23]

The great thing about ST conservatives is they can be counted on to post takes from the unfunny liberals no one cares about AND the unfunny conservatives no one cares about!

Truly fair and balanced. :tuwe're all taking cues from entertainers we stopped watching years ago, obviously

[boutons_deux]

the US has the most case/deaths of anyone worldwide and cumulatively. and right now.

it stands to reason a lot other countries have handled their shit better than us.

Several other advanced countries have 50 deaths/million

USA has 2050 deaths/million

with 50 deaths/million, USA would have 17K deaths, not 650K+

USA is failed state

[Thread]

Several other advanced countries have 50 deaths/million

USA has 2050 deaths/million

with 50 deaths/million, USA would have 17K deaths, not 650K+

USA is failed state

Uh, uh, daddy-O...USA has 700k+...of which over 300k is on mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.
...& counting, son.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

"follow da science"


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAfmJ9cWYAIJYpD?format=jpg&name=medium

[boutons_deux]

"

As was the case with Washington’s army, the mandates are largely succeeding:







California’s policy has led thousands of previously unvaccinated medical workers to receive shots in recent weeks. At Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, about 800 additional workers have been vaccinated since the policy was announced last month, bringing the hospital’s vaccination rate to 97 percent, according to my colleague Shawn Hubler.









When New York State announced a mandate for hospital and nursing-home staff members in August, about 75 percent of them had received a shot. By Monday, the share had risen to 92 percent. The increase amounts to roughly 100,000 newly vaccinated people.
At Trinity Health, a hospital chain in 22 states, the increase has been similar — to 94 percent from 75 percent, The Times’s Reed Abelson reports (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/GAYZfWBAcUh83dxW3n2-pg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjOBGSP0TeaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOS8yOS9oZWFsdGgvdXMtaG9zcGl0YWwtd29ya2Vycy12YWNj aW5lLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9OSZlbWM9ZWRpdF9ubl8yMD IxMDkzMCZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD00MTY3NiZubD10aGUtbW9ybmlu ZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9NzAyODMmdG U9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMTRiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBh NTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCmFSkoxVYSiwHJNSE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbW FpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~). At Genesis HealthCare, which operates long-term-care facilities in 23 states, Covid cases fell by nearly 50 percent (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/Liq8Ql81lHPQXxinOPoX3Q~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjOBGSP0T-aHR0cHM6Ly9hYmNuZXdzLmdvLmNvbS9IZWFsdGgvbnVyc2luZy 1ob21lcy1jYXJyeS1zdWNjZXNzZnVsLXN0YWZmLXZhY2NpbmUt bWFuZGF0ZXMtYW1pZC9zdG9yeT9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz 1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjEwOTMwJmlkPTc5OTQxNzk2Jmluc3RhbmNl X2lkPTQxNjc2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4Mj E3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD03MDI4MyZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTky ZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYV KSjFVhKLAck1ITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~ ) after nearly all staff members had finished receiving shots this summer.







Often, the number of people who ultimately refuse the vaccine is smaller than the number who first say they will. Some are persuaded by the information their employer gives them — about the vaccines’ effectiveness and safety (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/h-_B8i5QIHLvdIpa8cE8Kg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjOBGSP0TiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOS8yNy9icmllZmluZy9jb3ZpZC1yZWQtc3RhdGVzLXZhY2Np bmF0aW9ucy5odG1sP2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPTkmZW1jPWVkaXRfbm 5fMjAyMTA5MzAmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9NDE2NzYmbmw9dGhlLW1v cm5pbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgyMTc5NyZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTcwMj gzJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRi ZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgphUpKMVWEosByTUhNkYXJub2NuZW xAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA), compared with the deadliness of Covid — and others decide they are not really willing to lose their jobs.





A North Carolina hospital system, Novant Health, last week suspended 375 workers, or about 1 percent of its work force, for being unvaccinated. By the end of the week, more than half of them — about 200 — received a shot and were reinstated."

-- NY Times email

[Winehole23]

in the richest country in the world, hospitals close because we can't wring enough profit out of them

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[Thread]

in the richest country in the world, hospitals close because we can't wring enough profit out of them

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It's on that cocksucker squattin' in the White House, on his tab, Winester. He's too busy lookin' at his watch, that mother fucker.

[Winehole23]

Merck to seek EUA for antiviral treatment

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[Winehole23]

Game changer.I could be wrong, but I'd guess a lot of people who take a pass on preventing COVID by getting vaccinated will take a pill once they get it.

[hater]

Merck to seek EUA for antiviral treatment

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Just use cheaper horse pills ma nig :tu

Case closed

[DarrinS]

I could be wrong, but I'd guess a lot of people who take a pass on preventing COVID by getting vaccinated will take a pill once they get it.

Vaccine doesn't prevent covid

[Winehole23]

Vaccine doesn't prevent covidthat was sort of my point, thanks for underscoring the quite stubborn, yet fickle feeble-mindedness of anti-vaxxers when it comes to EUA. monoclonal antibodies are another example of this.

[Winehole23]

Just use cheaper horse pills ma nig :tu

Case closedwho said they would be cheaper?

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[hater]

who said they would be cheaper?

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Old and overwheight. Shoulda take the vax

Ce la vi

[Winehole23]

In the first such action in the nation, Gov. Gavin Newsom issued a mandate Friday requiring all eligible public and private schoolchildren in California to be vaccinated against COVID-19, a policy the state expects to affect millions of students by fall 2022.


The mandate would take effect for grades 7 through 12 the semester following the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s full authorization of the vaccine for children ages 12 and over, according to the governor’s office. Students in kindergarten through sixth grade would be phased in after the vaccine is authorized for younger children.


Currently, only individuals 16 or older are eligible to receive a vaccine that has full approval from the FDA. Children as young as 12 have been able to receive the vaccine under emergency authorization. For that reason, state officials expect the mandate to begin taking effect next fall.


Once in effect, students will not be allowed to attend classes in-person on campus without being vaccinated, just as with any other required childhood vaccine. Rare medical and religious exemptions would be available.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-10-01/newsom-sets-covid-vaccine-mandate-across-california-schools

[DarrinS]

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[ChumpDumper]

Just use cheaper horse pills ma nig :tu

Case closed


Shoulda take the vax
:lmao "case closed"

[boutons_deux]

WaPo email --

"An experimental pill can reduce the risk of death and hospitalization from covid-19, pharmaceutical company Merck and its partner, Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, announced in a news release Friday.

They have applied to the Food and Drug Administration for emergency use authorization for the drug,

molnupiravir.

If authorized, the pill would be the first of its kind — an oral antiviral for covid-19 (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/34d9192/6157759a9d2fda9d41f40fbe/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/8/59/6157759a9d2fda9d41f40fbe).

Such a drug would be especially welcome in parts of the world with less access to expensive monoclonal antibody treatments or vaccines.

More than a year-and-a-half into the pandemic, some things about the virus aren't clear — since, as reporters Joel Achenbach and Yasmeen Abutaleb write, U.S. data are a mess (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/34d9193/6157759a9d2fda9d41f40fbe/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/9/59/6157759a9d2fda9d41f40fbe).

Local health departments are left to collect information on hospitalizations, vaccinations and deaths, and the resulting patchwork quality of the country's pandemic statistics has hindered progress against the virus.

President Biden's science adviser, Eric Lander, said this is a "question that pertains to the whole health-care and public health system.

In the United States, our data systems are not interoperable.

They don’t talk to one another." "

Another role for govt that "neoliberal Capitalist money-grubbers" won't touch: standardization.

============================

Messy, incomplete U.S. data hobbles pandemic response

The nation’s decentralized, underfunded reporting system hampers efforts to combat the coronavirus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/30/inadequate-us-data-pandemic-response

[Winehole23]

tl;dr

vaxxed less likely to spread infection than unvaxxed

(preprint, 150,000 contacts from 100,000 initial cases)


“It’s the highest quality study we have so far on the question of infectiousness of vaccinated people infected with delta,” said Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious disease physician at the University of Pennsylvania, who was not involved in the research.


Susan Butler-Wu, a clinical microbiologist at the University of Southern California, called the study “well performed,” especially because it reflects real-world transmission since it tracked spread among close contacts.


Using cycle threshold (Ct) values (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34416598/), the researchers found a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant (https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/delta-delta-variants-everything-need-know-rcna1281), backing up prior studies. Even so, people who were fully vaccinated were still less likely to infect others.

[Winehole23]

1443991859085262850Students aren't represented by unions.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1444287965048487940?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1444287965048487940?s=19

Based on 408 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis, the overall crude reporting rate is 19.9 per million doses of mRNA vaccines administered.:tu

[daboom1]

Reactions after 7 days aren't counted :tu

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1444267440247091212?s=19

[ElNono]

408 cases :lmao:lmao:lmao

[hater]

408 cases :lmao:lmao:lmao

Depends how rare it was before tbqh

If now its 1 in every 500 thousand and before vax it was 1 in 10 million. There is a big problem here.

Im not sure this is the case but again. Depends how rare it was before. Its not the total #s but the incidence rates.

[boutons_deux]

408/20000 = 0.00204%

20.4 myocarditis / million

Canada covid deaths / million = 740

how many lives saved with 20M vaccinations? 20 x 740 = 14,800 deaths/avoided

severity of and co-morbidities ( aka context) with the myocarditis of the 408?

======================

Treatment depends on severity
Treatment may include medication to regulate the heartbeat and improve heart function. In rare but severe cases, a device may be needed to help the heart function.

Supportive care
Can be self-healing

Self-care
Low sodium diet

Medications
ACE inhibitor, Beta blocker, Diuretic, and Antiarrhythmic

-- Mayo Clinic

============

dominant qualities of the anti-vax crowd: ignorance, dishonesty, hypocrisy

[Thread]

408/20000 = 0.00204%

20.4 myocarditis / million

Canada covid deaths / million = 740

how many lives saved with 20M vaccinations? 20 x 740 = 14,800 deaths/avoided

severity of and co-morbidities ( aka context) with the myocarditis of the 408?

======================

Treatment depends on severity
Treatment may include medication to regulate the heartbeat and improve heart function. In rare but severe cases, a device may be needed to help the heart function.

Supportive care
Can be self-healing

Self-care
Low sodium diet

Medications
ACE inhibitor, Beta blocker, Diuretic, and Antiarrhythmic

-- Mayo Clinic

============

dominant qualities of the anti-vax crowd: ignorance, dishonesty, hypocrisy



Boiled down:::

Trump: 400k deadPERIOD
mother fucker Biden: Over 300k dead. And counting, son.

[ChumpDumper]

Depends how rare it was before tbqh

If now its 1 in every 500 thousand and before vax it was 1 in 10 million. There is a big problem here.

Im not sure this is the case but again. Depends how rare it was before. Its not the total #s but the incidence rates.That's not science. That's you making shit up.

[Winehole23]

That's not science. That's you making shit up.is he still quoting the Canadian preprint that overstated the incidence of myocarditis by a factor of 50?

"follow da science"

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1444662066829201408?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1444662066829201408?s=19Now do the fossil fuel industry, Qhris.

[daboom1]

whataboutery.exe

[ChumpDumper]

lobbying bad now

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

hater

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[hater]

Called it

Follow d sience

https://twitter.com/Tolling_Bell/status/1443309170757832704?s=19

[Winehole23]

no return to normality until we control the caseload globally

nature will not be mocked

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[DarrinS]

no return to normality until we control the caseload globally

nature will not be mocked




Normal people already returned to living normally.

[Winehole23]

Normal people already returned to living normally.yeah, a lot of people don't have access to vaccines, unlike your cowardly ass.

[DarrinS]

yeah, a lot of people don't have access to vaccines, unlike your cowardly ass.

Get on your bike, bitch. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Privileged people already returned to living normally.

[ChumpDumper]

Get on your bike, bitch. :lmao:lol the rage

[Winehole23]

Get on your bike, bitch. :lmaoevery god-damned day, you heavy smoking bitch :tu

[DarrinS]

Chump, since the de-derping


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1bGwGdFtjE


:lmao

[Winehole23]

hey, let's ride.

you scared, Darrin?

[ChumpDumper]

Chump:lol Darrin's impotent rage

[DarrinS]

hey, let's ride.

you scared, Darrin?



Terrified for your bike. :lmao

[Winehole23]

Terrified for your bike. :lmaoIs that a no?

[Winehole23]

all those cigs can't be great for you, boss.

BMI isn't everything.

[Winehole23]

let's ride, you arrogant bitch.

I want to see what you can do.

[DarrinS]

let's ride, you arrogant bitch.

I want to see what you can do.

:lmao

[Winehole23]

:lmaois that a no?

[Winehole23]

Darrin ducks again

[Winehole23]

bring your soccer ball, I'll trample you down for fun

[Winehole23]

still no?

[daboom1]

Pfizer employee drops a bomb, says natural immunity is way better than any vaccine:

https://twitter.com/EricSpracklen/status/1445230512855977986?t

[Ef-man]

Pfizer employee drops a bomb, says natural immunity is way better than any vaccine if nothing happens - just like playing like Russian Roulette, unless you die or you end up in hospital or it kills a loved one or you end up with a huge hospital/medical bill or you lose pay/sick leave for being ill, then getting the free vaccine is better:



fify

[ElNono]

BeepBoop still pushing veritas fake news? :lol

[daboom1]

Pfizer employee* drops a bomb, says natural immunity is way better than any vaccine:

https://twitter.com/EricSpracklen/status/1445230512855977986?t

*experienced bio chemist is more apropos

[ElNono]

BeepBoop still pushing veritas fake news? :lol

[hater]

Pfizer employee drops a bomb, says natural immunity is way better than any vaccine:

https://twitter.com/EricSpracklen/status/1445230512855977986?t

:tu called it

follow thou science ma nigs :tu

[Dirks_Finale]

Pfizer employee drops a bomb, says natural immunity is way better than any vaccine:

https://twitter.com/EricSpracklen/status/1445230512855977986?t

These guys are becoming the new TMZ, who was also laughed at initially....

[boutons_deux]

For unvaccinated, reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 is likely

Strong protection following natural infection is short-lived.

"Reinfection can reasonably happen in three months or less,"

those who have been naturally infected should get vaccinated.

Previous infection alone can offer very little long-term protection against subsequent infections."

Reinfections can and have happened, even shortly after recovery.

And they will become increasingly common as immunity wanes and new SARS-CoV-2 variants arise.

"Due to the ability of SARS-CoV-2 to evolve and reinfect, it, too, is likely to transition from pandemic to an endemic disease,"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211004104303.htm

70M unvaccinated

[DarrinS]

For unvaccinated, reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 is likely

Strong protection following natural infection is short-lived.

"Reinfection can reasonably happen in three months or less,"

those who have been naturally infected should get vaccinated.

Previous infection alone can offer very little long-term protection against subsequent infections."

Reinfections can and have happened, even shortly after recovery.

And they will become increasingly common as immunity wanes and new SARS-CoV-2 variants arise.

"Due to the ability of SARS-CoV-2 to evolve and reinfect, it, too, is likely to transition from pandemic to an endemic disease,"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211004104303.htm

70M unvaccinated





:lol


"Townsend and his team analyzed known reinfection and immunological data from the close viral relatives of SARS-CoV-2 that cause "common colds" -- along with immunological data from SARS-CoV-1 and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. Leveraging evolutionary principles, the team was able to model the risk of COVID-19 reinfection over time."

[hater]

For unvaccinated, reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 is likely

Strong protection following natural infection is short-lived.

"Reinfection can reasonably happen in three months or less,"

those who have been naturally infected should get vaccinated.

Previous infection alone can offer very little long-term protection against subsequent infections."

Reinfections can and have happened, even shortly after recovery.

And they will become increasingly common as immunity wanes and new SARS-CoV-2 variants arise.

"Due to the ability of SARS-CoV-2 to evolve and reinfect, it, too, is likely to transition from pandemic to an endemic disease,"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211004104303.htm

70M unvaccinated




:tu

[hater]

Breaking news. You can get reinfected with the common flu more than once :lol

[ChumpDumper]

You Trumptards think you can't get COVID more than once.:lol

[Thread]

For unvaccinated, reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 is likely

Strong protection following natural infection is short-lived.

"Reinfection can reasonably happen in three months or less,"

those who have been naturally infected should get vaccinated.

Previous infection alone can offer very little long-term protection against subsequent infections."

Reinfections can and have happened, even shortly after recovery.

And they will become increasingly common as immunity wanes and new SARS-CoV-2 variants arise.

"Due to the ability of SARS-CoV-2 to evolve and reinfect, it, too, is likely to transition from pandemic to an endemic disease,"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211004104303.htm

70M unvaccinated




...& don't forget the 30+ million of wet ones that are in here and not shot.

That's 100M unvaccinated, dad.

[Winehole23]

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[Thread]

1445404596478820380

By all means carry on. I'll need the #'s. Per schedule the surge is peaking (they predicted mid-October it would after mother fucker Biden opened up 4th of July.) Thus the 2nd course of mother fucker Biden's (((SALAD DAYS))) is about to wane and I'll be hunting & pecking once & again.

Let us proceed...

[DarrinS]

Molnupiravir originally developed to treat Venezuelan equine encephalitis


Irony

[ChumpDumper]

Molnupiravir originally developed to treat Venezuelan equine encephalitis


IronyWhat's ironic about it, Darrin?

[Adam Lambert]

Y'all really don't know anyone who's had COVID twice?

Okay...

[DarrinS]

Y'all really don't know anyone who's had COVID twice?

Okay...


I know vaccinated that got covid

[Adam Lambert]

These guys are becoming the new TMZ, who was also laughed at initially....

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Adam Lambert]

I know vaccinated that got covid

Yes, we've established that can happen.

[ChumpDumper]

I know vaccinated that got covidDo you know anyone who has had COVID twice?

Yes or no.

[Winehole23]

higher rate of vaccination, reportedly

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[Winehole23]

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[DMC]

I get it that having natural antibodies could be better, but you cannot, as a government in charge of public health, have everyone naturally getting COVID to see who survives and has natural antibodies. For that reason it's important that people be vaccinated. At some point the hesitancy is mostly just a symbolic gesture of defiance and has nothing to do with any real concern about the vaccine. Also, a virologist from Pfizer is no better than one from Moderna or anywhere else, they don't have more information authority. What they are saying can be found on most medical websites.

[Winehole23]

hater says a 1% death rate from COVID is "pretty good"

wonder what he has to say about this, he says he likes to follow "da science'

n=2,500,000



Research conducted by Israel’s largest healthcare provider, Clalit, along with Beilinson Medical Center, published (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737?query=recirc_curatedRelated_article) Wednesday in The New England Journal of Medicine, examined data on 2.5 million vaccinated Israelis, 94 percent of whom had received two doses of the vaccine.

It found that cases of such inflammation occurred in 54 people (51 men, three women) or 2.13 of every 100,000 vaccinees (some two thousandths of a percentage point). Of those, 98 percent of cases were mild (76%) to moderate (22%) and did not cause any damage to heart function. A single person of the 2.5 million experienced a severe case that required hospitalization, and went on to recover, the study found.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/major-israeli-study-finds-risk-of-heart-inflammation-after-covid-shots-is-minute/

[DarrinS]

Do you know anyone who has had COVID twice?

Yes or no.


No

[boutons_deux]

MERCK SELLS FEDERALLY FINANCED COVID PILL TO U.S. FOR 40 TIMES WHAT IT COSTS TO MAKE

The Covid-19 treatment molnupiravir was developed using funding from the National Institutes of Health and the Department of Defense.

https://theintercept.com/2021/10/05/covid-pill-drug-pricing-merck-ridgeback

[hater]

hater says a 1% death rate from COVID is "pretty good"

wonder what he has to say about this, he says he likes to follow "da science'

n=2,500,000

https://www.timesofisrael.com/major-israeli-study-finds-risk-of-heart-inflammation-after-covid-shots-is-minute/

Creepy that Im in your thoughts every morning nig

Seek help

But I am not in the camp that says vaccines cause harm to ppl. Im in the camp that says they are leaky and unnecessary for young and healthy. Especially through mandates.

And... seek help. Not healthy to have spurstalk posters in your mind in your waking hours :lol

[Winehole23]

healthcare is being rationed in Alaska

I wonder what Sarah Palin thinks of the death panels in her home state.


the state’s largest hospital, Providence Alaska Medical Center, is overwhelmed with patients and was the first weeks ago to declare crisis-of-care protocols, meaning doctors are sometimes prioritising care based on who has the best odds of survival.

Since then, 19 other healthcare facilities in Alaska, including Anchorage’s two other hospitals and Fairbanks Memorial, have also entered crisis care mode, something overtaxed facilities in other states have had to do, including Idaho and Wyoming.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/us-doctors-alaska-difficult-choices-amid-covid-surge

[hater]

I get it that having natural antibodies could be better, but you cannot, as a government in charge of public health, have everyone naturally getting COVID to see who survives and has natural antibodies. For that reason it's important that people be vaccinated. At some point the hesitancy is mostly just a symbolic gesture of defiance and has nothing to do with any real concern about the vaccine. Also, a virologist from Pfizer is no better than one from Moderna or anywhere else, they don't have more information authority. What they are saying can be found on most medical websites.

What the fuck is information authority?

[Winehole23]

Creepy that Im in your thoughts every morning nig

Seek help

But I am not in the camp that says vaccines cause harm to ppl. Im in the camp that says they are leaky and unnecessary for young and healthy. Especially through mandates.

And... seek help. Not healthy to have spurstalk posters in your mind in your waking hours :lolyour antivax propaganda is fairly obvious, your attempts to spin it aren't. noticing that is hardly unhealthy.

it's understandable that having your bullshit pointed out would make you uncomfortable, did you notice the very low incidence of myocarditis for the cohort you claim to care about? I thought you were following da science.

:lol

[hater]

your antivax propaganda is fairly obvious, your attempts to spin it aren't. noticing that is hardly unhealthy.

it's understandable that having your bullshit pointed out would make you uncomfortable, did you notice the very low incidence of myocarditis for the cohort you claim to care about? I thought you were following da science.

:lol

Fake news. Im pro vax. But also admit these covid vax3s are leaky and far from perfect and should not be mandated to young and healthy :tu

Seek help. Not healthy to have spurstalk posters in your mind in your waking hours :lol

[Winehole23]

^^^avoiding the science

[hater]

^^^avoiding the science

Says creepy guy on aisle 6

[Winehole23]

it's an open forum, Nancy. you shouldn't expose yourself so much if you dislike the attention.

[Winehole23]

Biden, the British Crown and the Pope are injecting children with an octopus-like organism, says GOP lawmaker

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[boutons_deux]

Antibody levels decrease after two doses of Pfizer vaccine


https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/antibody-levels-decrease-after-two-doses-of-pfizer-vaccine-study-681260

[ChumpDumper]

No

There's one on this board, genius.

[Winehole23]

worth underscoring

either Trump gets the lion's share of credit for Project Warp Speed or greedy Pharma companies do. can't be both at the same time.

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[DMC]

What the fuck is information authority?

Appeal to authority is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority on a topic is used as evidence to support an argument.

In this case the person being recorded isn't even an authority on the topic, just that they "work for Pfizer" so what they say must mean something important.

[DMC]

Says creepy guy on aisle 6

Must be the wine and beer isle.

[boutons_deux]

Trash did nothing with Warp Speed except spend money ordering vaccine.

He naively, stupidly, ignorantly, self-servingly thought getting vaccine out before election would win him votes.

He had nothing to do with the decades-long research into mRNA vaccines. Obama gave Moderna $10Ms

otoh, Trash did kill 500K Americans, dead unnecessarily due to Trash killing pandemic preparedness and fucking his pandemic management.

[Thread]

Things must not be going good again for mother fucker Biden...nary a COVID story on the CNN homepage, kids.

NARY!!!

[hater]

Appeal to authority is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority on a topic is used as evidence to support an argument.

In this case the person being recorded isn't even an authority on the topic, just that they "work for Pfizer" so what they say must mean something important.

Given that our authorities on the topic have been mostly wrong and have political goals. Id rather listen to secretly recorded scientists tbqh.

Their opinions is many times more valuable to me than clown like Falsuchi, or the Moderna/Pfffffizer CEOs

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1448395936384835585?t

[ChumpDumper]

Beep boop

:lol you still don't know what vaccines do

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1448395936384835585?t

boomster

[hater]

https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1448395936384835585?t

:lol

[pgardn]

Antibody levels decrease after two doses of Pfizer vaccine


https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/antibody-levels-decrease-after-two-doses-of-pfizer-vaccine-study-681260

Important to note and off course not IN THE TITLE.

But cellular immune responses are longer lasting — and as Jennifer Gommerman, an immunologist at the University of Toronto in Canada, explains: “Cellular immunity is what’s going to protect you from disease.” Memory B cells, which can rapidly deploy more antibodies in the event of re-exposure to the virus, tend to stick around, and so do T cells, which can attack already-infected cells. Both provide an added measure of protection should SARS-CoV-2 sneak past the body’s first line of defence.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02532-4

Give the whole story... bits and pieces because " big pharma"
This happens with a number of vaccines that work very well.

[pgardn]

Chile says hello to one town Waterford.

[Trainwreck2100]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/16/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

J&J vaccine recipients should get their second dose as soon as it's available, experts say


J&J pulled a real fast one on the FDA

[Trainwreck2100]

Any other J&J boys out there or just me? Are you getting the second shot? Not getting it? or waiting for them to authorize mixing for that real robust reaction

[DMC]

Despite the increase in cases, Dr McNamara said that, thanks to vaccination, the vast majority of infection were mild and it was only in “rare circumstances” that serious illness resulted. -Irish Times

[boutons_deux]

Any other J&J boys out there or just me? Are you getting the second shot? Not getting it? or waiting for them to authorize mixing for that real robust reaction


Should You Mix and Match Your Booster Shot?

We know more than ever about how to use boosters, but still very little about when to use them.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/10/mix-match-booster-covid-vaccine/620395/

====================

F.D.A. Panel Unanimously Recommends Johnson & Johnson Booster Shots

But many panel members said J. & J. recipients might also benefit from the option of a Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna booster, an action that an F.D.A. official said was possible.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/health/johnson-johnson-vaccine-booster.html

A friend had J&J and recently got Moderna, which as is well known, bothered him for a couple days.

[DMC]

Any other J&J boys out there or just me? Are you getting the second shot? Not getting it? or waiting for them to authorize mixing for that real robust reaction

If you don't get the 2nd shot, are you an anti-vaxxer?

[Thread]

If you don't get the 2nd shot, are you an anti-vaxxer?

3 hours later and wrecky still ain't responded...tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick...

[Sam da Sham]

Good video here on the effects of the vaccine on the body:

Cockleburs and Covid
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iA1brWkQqCHu/

[ElNono]

"Good video" :lol





























:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Winehole23]

Despite the increase in cases, Dr McNamara said that, thanks to vaccination, the vast majority of infection were mild and it was only in “rare circumstances” that serious illness resulted. -Irish TimesCOVID was the leading cause of death for 30s-50s last month and the second leading cause of death overall in the USA.

[Winehole23]

But yeah, don't worry. Dr. Darrin doesn't.

[boutons_deux]

Novel AY4.2 COVID Delta variant identified in 11-year-old Israeli

The "Delta Plus" strand has been on the rise in the UK,

with British authorities reporting 6% of the positive cases on Tuesday belonging to the AY4.2 strand,

The "Delta Plus" strand has been on the rise in the UK, with British authorities reporting 6% of the positive cases on Tuesday belonging to the AY4.2 strand, according to a Maariv report.

The variant (https://www.jpost.com/health-science/variants-vs-vaccines-is-the-covid-19-race-ever-going-to-end-analysis-676982) has been detected in several European countries, but its properties are still unclear.

"It is potentially a marginally more infectious strain,"

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/novel-ay42-covd-delta-variant-identified-in-11-year-old-israeli-682503

[Winehole23]

don't worry, Boutons, ST armchair epidemiologists have assured us that the tradeoff between transmission and virulence is 100% in our favor, witness the UK variant and Delta.

[SnakeBoy]

Any other J&J boys out there or just me? Are you getting the second shot? Not getting it? or waiting for them to authorize mixing for that real robust reaction

I'll probably get a booster at some point but not another J&J full dose. Either the moderna half dose booster (50 micrograms) or a regular pfizer which is only 30 micrograms. Probably the pfizer even though the CEO is a douche.

[Winehole23]

Vaccine requirements for health care workers is a no-brainer

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[Trainwreck2100]

I'll probably get a booster at some point but not another J&J full dose. Either the moderna half dose booster (50 micrograms) or a regular pfizer which is only 30 micrograms. Probably the pfizer even though the CEO is a douche.
Looks like we'll get the mix acknowlegement soon, Moderna has the best response so I'll go with them fuck J&J for making a 2 shot a 1 shot so they could charge more

[boutons_deux]

Vaccine requirements for health care workers is a no-brainer

1450579479051522050

covid has killed 4x as many cops as the 2nd cause of cop death.

How many of cops victims have been infected by cops?

[boutons_deux]

...

[ChumpDumper]

1450571191853453315
:lol shoeless and jobless

[Thread]

1450571191853453315
:lol shoeless and jobless

I have to admit I would not pass up that plum job & pension at the end of it.

[SnakeBoy]

Looks like we'll get the mix acknowlegement soon, Moderna has the best response so I'll go with them fuck J&J for making a 2 shot a 1 shot so they could charge more

I don't think that's true. The 1 dose is still around 80% effective in preventing moderate illness and produces a good memory B and T cell response. The study you linked to that showed the drop to only 3% effectiveness is measuring effectiveness against preventing infection. Ultimately all the vaccines will have basically 0% effectiveness against preventing infection because vaccines don't prevent infection. So I don't think J&J had any nefarious motives. Actually weren't they one of the ones who were selling it at cost?

The reason I'm not going to stick with J&J is because they killed the vaccine with the big pause. So going forward we'll always be the bastard step child that nobody outside of J&J will spend money studying.

The reason I will get a booster at all is because of future variants. Shane Crotty's work showed that with each exposure to the spike (virus or vaccine) your immune system is predicting how the virus might mutate and building a library of antibodies against future mutations. Pretty amazing that our immune systems have learned that viruses mutate. I'm almost 100% sure I've had a Delta "boost" not too long ago so maybe in a month or so I'll go get a vaccine boost as well. I'm in no rush so I'll wait until there have been enough guinea pigs to trigger any safety signals if there are any, doesn't look like it atm. I think it'll be the moderna.

[baseline bum]

The reason I will get a booster at all is because of future variants. Shane Crotty's work showed that with each exposure to the spike (virus or vaccine) your immune system is predicting how the virus might mutate and building a library of antibodies against future mutations. Pretty amazing that our immune systems have learned that viruses mutate. I'm almost 100% sure I've had a Delta "boost" not too long ago so maybe in a month or so I'll go get a vaccine boost as well. I'm in no rush so I'll wait until there have been enough guinea pigs to trigger any safety signals if there are any, doesn't look like it atm. I think it'll be the moderna.

Any reason you'd prefer Moderna over Pfizer?

[SnakeBoy]

Any reason you'd prefer Moderna over Pfizer?

In terms of the actual vaccine, no. I don't think there will be much difference in a 30 microgram or 50 microgram booster. The differences in the increase in "circulating antibodies" are meaningless. Just that I think Moderna has been the best company so far in terms of dosing, spacing, and not spreading bs to pump share price like the Pfizer ceo has done. Since this will be a long term thing I think Moderna is the train I'll get on.

[DMC]

COVID was the leading cause of death for 30s-50s last month and the second leading cause of death overall in the USA.

Not sure the Irish Times gives a shit.

[hater]

Not getting a shitbooster at all nigs.

1 and done over here :tu

Ive moved on

[ChumpDumper]

Not getting a shitbooster at all nigs.

1 and done over here :tu

Ive moved on

So have the people getting boosters.

[DMC]

If you don't get the 2nd shot, are you an anti-vaxxer?

Tick tock motherfuckers :lol

[ChumpDumper]

No.

We didn't think you were being serious.

[DMC]

^motherfucker 1 checking in :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol declaring victory again

[SnakeBoy]

Not getting a shitbooster at all nigs.

1 and done over here :tu

Ive moved on

I've moved on too, just living my life. The difference is that you are young right? So you have plenty of time to build naturally acquired immune memory. I have about 10 years to gain 50 years of immune memory to this virus before I'm in a high risk age group. So I'll take the virus boosts and the vaccine boosts (after more guinea pigs go 1st).

[baseline bum]

I've moved on too, just living my life. The difference is that you are young right? So you have plenty of time to build naturally acquired immune memory. I have about 10 years to gain 50 years of immune memory to this virus before I'm in a high risk age group. So I'll take the virus boosts and the vaccine boosts (after more guinea pigs go 1st).

Yeah but hater's a fat Mexican who eats chicharron for breakfast every morning at noon isn't he?

[DarrinS]

I've moved on too, just living my life. The difference is that you are young right? So you have plenty of time to build naturally acquired immune memory. I have about 10 years to gain 50 years of immune memory to this virus before I'm in a high risk age group. So I'll take the virus boosts and the vaccine boosts (after more guinea pigs go 1st).


I'm in my 50's. I'll take my chances with natural booster.

[ChumpDumper]

"moving on" = talking nonstop about vaccines you claim you won't take and have judged most others shouldn't take

[hater]

So have the people getting boosters.

No you losers will never move on :lol

Boosters forever :lol

Ive moved on. Im done. Gonna go eat a steak :tu

[hater]

I've moved on too, just living my life. The difference is that you are young right? So you have plenty of time to build naturally acquired immune memory. I have about 10 years to gain 50 years of immune memory to this virus before I'm in a high risk age group. So I'll take the virus boosts and the vaccine boosts (after more guinea pigs go 1st).

What do u mean how old are u? Im cool with anyone taking boosters. Yes Ill laugh at the young ones a little bit. In the end im against mandates. In the end I dont give a shit if you are at zero shots or at 20

Myseld. Im done and moved on. L take a booster on my 60th bday or if I get some bad disease :tu

[hater]

Yeah but hater's a fat Mexican who eats chicharron for breakfast every morning at noon isn't he?

No. Nig. I eat salad or soup at lunch. Chicharron is for the special days tbqh :tu
Cheers

[SnakeBoy]

What do u mean how old are u?

54


I'm in my 50's. I'll take my chances with natural booster.

Not unreasonable. My view is that I'd like my body to see this virus (spike) as many times as possible over the next 10 years. It's going to take obviously at least 3-5 years to fully burn through the population once and then it's transmission rate will slow down and probably just be a seasonal respiratory virus. So that means I may only get a natural booster one or two more times before I'm 65+. So to me it makes sense to get some vaccine boosts along the way.

[DarrinS]

Not unreasonable. My view is that I'd like my body to see this virus (spike) as many times as possible over the next 10 years. It's going to take obviously at least 3-5 years to fully burn through the population once and then it's transmission rate will slow down and probably just be a seasonal respiratory virus. So that means I may only get a natural booster one or two more times before I'm 65+. So to me it makes sense to get some vaccine boosts along the way.

I think I've already been exposed multiple times. Since I caught the OG strain last year and had two Pfizers, I don't think I'm susceptible anymore. Who knows.

[baseline bum]

No. Nig. I eat salad or soup at lunch. Chicharron is for the special days tbqh :tu
Cheers

Throwing guacamole in your burrito doesn't make it a salad tbh

[hater]

54



Not unreasonable. My view is that I'd like my body to see this virus (spike) as many times as possible over the next 10 years. It's going to take obviously at least 3-5 years to fully burn through the population once and then it's transmission rate will slow down and probably just be a seasonal respiratory virus. So that means I may only get a natural booster one or two more times before I'm 65+. So to me it makes sense to get some vaccine boosts along the way.

Very reasonable for u to take a booster. Cheers :tu

[hater]

Throwing guacamole in your burrito doesn't make it a salad tbh

Avocado on the salads is great :tu

Lettuce. Tomato, cucumber, carrots and avocado. With a lil vinagrete

Cheers

[DMC]

Avocado on the salads is great :tu

Lettuce. Tomato, cucumber, carrots and avocado. With a lil vinagrete

Cheers

On a corn tortilla with pico and queso.

[ChumpDumper]

No you losers will never move on :lol

Boosters forever :lol

Ive moved on. Im done. Gonna go eat a steak :tu

:lol you just proved you'll never move on.

[hater]

On a corn tortilla with pico and queso.

:tu

[hater]

:lol you just proved you'll never move on.

I have. Ill be eating steak while you wait in line for your booster #325

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I have. Ill be eating steak while you wait in line for your booster #325

:lmaoI also eat steak. :lol thinking you can't do both.


You'll never just let it go. You're obsessed with being antivax now that you're vaxxed.:lol

[hater]

I also eat steak. :lol thinking you can't do both.


You'll never just let it go. You're obsessed with being antivax now that you're vaxxed.:lol

No u wont be eating steak at the line while waiting for you booster #373 :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

No u wont be eating steak at the line while waiting for you booster #373 :lmao

How long do you think it takes to get an injection, hater?

Post your number.

[Blake]

I think I've already been exposed multiple times. Since I caught the OG strain last year and had two Pfizers, I don't think I'm susceptible anymore. Who knows.

Why are you posting in a garbage forum still?

[Ef-man]

Moscow will impose a 10-day lockdown from next week in an effort to curb soaring Covid-19 cases! :wow

Hater’s favorite tyrant now supports lockdowns! :lmao :lmao

Sputnik is a piece of shit vaccine! Rich Russians going elsewhere to get Pfizer! :wow

How could follow the tyrant hater be so wrong! :lmao

[Winehole23]

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[Thread]

1449789509235838980

1449789513962770437

Boiled down:::

MF Biden has killed over 50k of Americans in the last 30 days.

Let us proceed...

[boutons_deux]

Pfizer vaccine 90% effective in warding off COVID in adolescents

The study compared nearly 95,000 adolescents

who received the vaccine against the same number who did not, finding similarities and differences.

https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/pfizer-vaccine-90-percent-effective-in-warding-off-covid-in-adolescents-682727

[spurraider21]

:wow

1451170313492852740

follow the science

[SnakeBoy]

I think I've already been exposed multiple times. Since I caught the OG strain last year and had two Pfizers, I don't think I'm susceptible anymore. Who knows.

Vincent & Amy talk about boosters a few times on this livestream. They agree you two dosers don't need a booster at all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BZtBfxw0dE

[SnakeBoy]

:wow

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follow the science

“Will this just push breakthroughs [infections post vaccination] off to a later date? Is a second generation vaccination that creates more nasal immunity the actual solution to the breakthrough issues?” Adalja said. “The virus is always going to be here and I’m not sure chasing mild breakthroughs with intermittent boosters of first-generation vaccines is that valuable.”

The answer to the first question is yes because the vaccines don't prevent infection. As I've been saying.

The answer to the second question is yes we need a live attenuated virus nasal vaccine, Covi-Vax by codagenix. As I've been saying. Just completed phase 1 in India

"The topline safety and immunogenicity data generated in our Phase 1 trial demonstrate potential for a live-attenuated vaccine that is safe, immunogenic and capable of blocking nasal replication of the virus. We are very encouraged by the data as we head into later stage clinical trials," said J. Robert Coleman, Ph.D., M.B.A., Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Codagenix.

[ElNono]

“Will this just push breakthroughs [infections post vaccination] off to a later date? Is a second generation vaccination that creates more nasal immunity the actual solution to the breakthrough issues?” Adalja said. “The virus is always going to be here and I’m not sure chasing mild breakthroughs with intermittent boosters of first-generation vaccines is that valuable.”

The answer to the first question is yes because the vaccines don't prevent infection. As I've been saying.

The answer to the second question is yes we need a live attenuated virus nasal vaccine, Covi-Vax by codagenix. As I've been saying. Just completed phase 1 in India

"The topline safety and immunogenicity data generated in our Phase 1 trial demonstrate potential for a live-attenuated vaccine that is safe, immunogenic and capable of blocking nasal replication of the virus. We are very encouraged by the data as we head into later stage clinical trials," said J. Robert Coleman, Ph.D., M.B.A., Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Codagenix.

How about mouthbreathers like Andy?

[ChumpDumper]

“Will this just push breakthroughs [infections post vaccination] off to a later date? Is a second generation vaccination that creates more nasal immunity the actual solution to the breakthrough issues?” Adalja said. “The virus is always going to be here and I’m not sure chasing mild breakthroughs with intermittent boosters of first-generation vaccines is that valuable.”

The answer to the first question is yes because the vaccines don't prevent infection. As I've been saying.

The answer to the second question is yes we need a live attenuated virus nasal vaccine, Covi-Vax by codagenix. As I've been saying. Just completed phase 1 in India

"The topline safety and immunogenicity data generated in our Phase 1 trial demonstrate potential for a live-attenuated vaccine that is safe, immunogenic and capable of blocking nasal replication of the virus. We are very encouraged by the data as we head into later stage clinical trials," said J. Robert Coleman, Ph.D., M.B.A., Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Codagenix.

It sounds like the vaccines are preventing infections for a time. If they aren't like you say, there's no problem.

[Winehole23]

"Follow da science"

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[Winehole23]

human experimentation, baby-eating takes in

3,2,1...

[Winehole23]

17 yes, 0 no, one abstention

[hater]

"Follow da science"

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Not following the science. Children have no risk of covid

Follow da science thang :tu

[hater]

human experimentation, baby-eating takes in

3,2,1...

Calling it now. 50% of children wont be taking this in the next year :tu

[Winehole23]

Not following the science. Children have no risk of covid

Follow da science thang :tuIt's simply false that children have no risk from COVID. That's a straight lie.

How is the FDA decision not based on science? It's a board of scientists reviewing data from clinical trials.

[Winehole23]

Oh and

Called it

[hater]

It's simply false that children have no risk from COVID. That's a straight lie.

How is the FDA decision not based on science? It's a board of scientists reviewing data from clinical trials.

Nope. Only about 500 children died of Covid in the las 20 monts total. Out of tens of millions. Thats = to no risk. Children have more risk getting driven to the vaccination station than from catching Covid.

And most of those deaths were extremely immunodeficient children.

I will even go ahead and clarify. Healthy children have no risk from covid :tu

Follow da science thang :tu

[spurraider21]

Nope. Only about 500 children died of Covid in the las 20 monts total. Out of tens of millions. Thats = to no risk. Children have more risk getting driven to the vaccination station than from catching Covid.

And most of those deaths were extremely immunodeficient children.

I will even go ahead and clarify. Healthy children have no risk from covid :tu

Follow da science thang :tu
the children pass it along to their teachers. and parents. and grandparents.

remember herd immunity?

[Winehole23]

Pediatric death and disability from preventable disease don't count and children shouldn't be protected.

Got it. :tu

[Winehole23]

the children pass it along to their teachers. and parents. and grandparents.

remember herd immunity?Network effects, most transmission occurs at home.

Fortunately, only the old, the obese and people with other medical conditions are likely to die, those don't count either.

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[Winehole23]

Or, just be grateful for the natural immunity conferred if you and your loved ones don't die or end up with chronic disabilities.

[Winehole23]

1453082309201117199"human experimentation"

Right on cue, TSA :tu

[spurraider21]

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is this you learning about clinical trials?

[hater]

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:lmao

[hater]

the children pass it along to their teachers. and parents. and grandparents.

remember herd immunity?

Those vaxed or want natural immunity

Follow da science thang

[hater]

Pediatric death and disability from preventable disease don't count and children shouldn't be protected.

Got it. :tu

No risk from covid. Gotit :tu

[Cuck Ross]

"human experimentation"

Right on cue, TSA :tu

The number of participants in the current clinical development program is too small to detect
any potential risks of myocarditis associated with vaccination. Long-term safety of
COVID-19 vaccine in participants 5 to <12 years of age will be studied in
5 post-authorization safety studies, including a 5-year follow-up study to evaluate long term
sequelae of post-vaccination myocarditis/pericarditis.

https://www.fda.gov/media/153409/download

[ChumpDumper]

Those vaxed or want natural immunity:lol hater's gone full ducks

[Winehole23]

The number of participants in the current clinical development program is too small to detect
any potential risks of myocarditis associated with vaccination. Long-term safety of
COVID-19 vaccine in participants 5 to <12 years of age will be studied in
5 post-authorization safety studies, including a 5-year follow-up study to evaluate long term
sequelae of post-vaccination myocarditis/pericarditis.

https://www.fda.gov/media/153409/download
:tu

[hater]

I have nothing :(

[ChumpDumper]

hater is arguing nothing.

[hater]

I still have.... nothing :(

[Cuck Ross]

:tu



FDA models predict 1 prevented death per 1 million doses. Pfizer admits they don't know the long term safety and admits the trial was too small to detect risks of myocarditis. Why the :tu?

[Cuck Ross]

is this you learning about clinical trials?

Would you give your kid a vaccine when the maker of the vaccine admits long term safety isn't known at this time?

[ChumpDumper]

:cryWhat are you actually arguing, hater?

You think kids shouldn't be vaccinated against measles either?

What's your acceptable total of child deaths?

Post your number.

[Winehole23]

FDA models predict 1 prevented death per 1 million doses. Pfizer admits they don't know the long term safety and admits the trial was too small to detect risks of myocarditis. Why the :tu?Review by a scientific board with caveats beats speculative wheelspinning. If myocarditis turns out to be a significant risk, EUA will be revoked. FDA is monitoring the situation. Apparently the occurrence in the clinical trials wasn't troubling.

Most medical treatments aren't risk free, why are you being such a pussy about this one?

[Winehole23]

Would you give your kid a vaccine when the maker of the vaccine admits long term safety isn't known at this time?Yes, because of the current prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 transmission and the known risks of that. Vaccines offer a high degree of protection against disease.

[spurraider21]

Those vaxed or want natural immunity

Follow da science thang
natural immunity just means catching covid lol

[Cuck Ross]

Review by a scientific board with caveats beats speculative wheelspinning. If myocarditis turns out to be a significant risk, EUA will be revoked. FDA is monitoring the situation. Apparently the occurrence in the clinical trials wasn't troubling.:lol "The number of participants in the current clinical development program is too small to detect
any potential risks of myocarditis associated with vaccination."


Most medical treatments aren't risk free, why are you being such a pussy about this one?Vaccine manufacturer says long term safety is unknown at this time. Small children are basically at zero risk from covid. Not submitting your own kid as an experiment is not being a pussy.

[Winehole23]

Privileging speculative risks over verified benefits.

Got it.

[spurraider21]

Would you give your kid a vaccine when the maker of the vaccine admits long term safety isn't known at this time?
you first

is this you first hearing about how clinical trials work?

[Cuck Ross]

Privileging speculative risks over verified benefits.

Got it.

1 death prevented per 1 million doses :wow

[Cuck Ross]

you first

is this you first hearing about how clinical trials work?

No.

Your turn.

Would you give your kid a vaccine when the maker of the vaccine admits long term safety isn't known at this time?