Coronavirus treatments and vaccines thread

[Adam Lambert]

Nono don't forget, Darrin thinks Fauci was involved in the development of Covid-19, you're not going to get through to him. He's lost.

[ElNono]

"These people" killed millions

False. link?


Nono don't forget, Darrin thinks Fauci was involved in the development of Covid-19, you're not going to get through to him. He's lost.

Oh I know. It's just amusing seeing him wither in his own hubris, after being wrong time and again on COVID.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin doesn't even wash his hands after taking a shit.

[Winehole23]

the opinion that Ivermectin has negligible theraputic value for COVID-19 appears to be reflected in a clear majority of the related studies, Ivermectin being an effective treatment for COVID is maybe a bit of esoteric lore, maybe it's aspirational.

https://moviegoings.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/thebomb.jpg


Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

[SnakeBoy]

Cool, another study showing ivermectin works better than remdesivir

[ChumpDumper]

Cool, another Trumptard goalpost move.

[DarrinS]

the opinion that Ivermectin has negligible theraputic value for COVID-19 appears to be reflected in a clear majority of the related studies, Ivermectin being an effective treatment for COVID is maybe a bit of esoteric lore, maybe it's aspirational.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869


They were giving it to people up to seven days post infection.

Even the Pfizer antiviral is ineffective after that long.





You have to take Paxlovid within five days of developing symptoms.

Like all antivirals, Paxlovid works best early in the course of an illness—in this case, within the first five days of symptom onset, says Jeffrey Topal, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious diseases specialist who is involved in determining COVID-19 treatment protocols for Yale New Haven Hospital patients.

“Once you’ve been ill with the virus for more than a week, the damage done to the body in a severe case can’t be undone by the antiviral,” he says.




yalemedicine.org/news/12-things-to-know-paxlovid-covid-19

[DarrinS]

I should say they were starting patients on it up to seven days post- symptom onset.

[ChumpDumper]

Dr. Darrin still can't quit worms.

[SpursforSix]

I should say they were starting patients on it up to seven days post- symptom onset.

Personally, I believe there's something there. I know six people that started taking Ivermectin and all were symptom free in a few days. Two had been vaccinated. I don't consider any of them kooks. All were under the age of 50. Two I'd say were unhealthily fat. But definitely not morbidly obese.

This doesn't count the second-hand incidents I've heard which were the same.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

it boggles that the most effective public policy of the Trump era, Operation Warp Speed, hasn't been replicated. 10 billion would seem a pittance to hasten better vaccines and treatments.

H/t to the usually hare-brained Peter Navarro, for yelling at top volume about COVID.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao and you pussies can't even get one shot.

A 60-year-old man allegedly had himself vaccinated against COVID-19 dozens of times in Germany in order to sell forged vaccination cards with real vaccine batch numbers to people not wanting to get vaccinated themselves.

The man from the eastern Germany city of Magdeburg, whose name was not released in line with German privacy rules, is said to have received up to 90 shots against COVID-19 at vaccination centers in the eastern state of Saxony for months until criminal police caught him earlier this month, the German news agency dpa reported Sunday.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/man-germany-90-covid-19-shots-sell-forged-83843922

[CosmicCowboy]

Pelosi has covid. Good chance she gave it to Biden yesterday at the bill signing.

[Winehole23]

Pelosi has covid. Good chance she gave it to Biden yesterday at the bill signing.I would presume quite a few US officers have been multiply infected.

[Thread]

Pelosi has covid. Good chance she gave it to Biden yesterday at the bill signing.


Joe may get the regime change after all.


tee, hee.

[baseline bum]

This pandemic was caused by humans dicking around with a virus. Nothing to discuss. Stop worshiping these people.

Wow Karrin is a Wuhan lab Truther? :lmao

[Winehole23]

Wow Karrin is a Wuhan lab Truther? :lmaoDarrin welcomed Omicron as a harbinger of the end of COVID, he was an Omicron cheerleader the whole way.

Does OG Omicron confer protection against reinfection by BA.2.?

Signs seems to be pointing to no.

[DMC]

Darrin welcomed Omicron as a harbinger of the end of COVID, he was an Omicron cheerleader the whole way.

Does OG Omicron confer protection against reinfection by BA.2.?

Signs seems to be pointing to no.

End of the world 556734.7

[ElNono]

Wow Karrin is a Wuhan lab Truther? :lmao

ya hate ta see it :lol

[Winehole23]

End of the world 556734.7I didn't say so, this time or any other. It's just more voice throwing by you.

The current COVID wave is what, the seventh one? None of the previous ones ended the world, don't see why this one should.

[Winehole23]

Short of world annihilation, presumably any number of things can get worse.

[DMC]

I didn't say so, this time or any other. It's just more voice throwing by you.

The current COVID wave is what, the seventh one? None of the previous ones ended the world, don't see why this one should.

EOTW

"We're finally out of the fuckin' woods on this shit"

you "there's a variant in Bangladesh that could kill everyone, I'm putting on yet another mask and sanitizing my thumb bell on my bike"

[hater]

:lmao :lmao tripple vaxed mask wearing Dr Ding Dong has COVID :lmao

Is asking for Monoclonal Antibodies and gets denied :lmao :lol

Shoulda moved to Florida :lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1512511652100509696?s=19

[Ef-man]

:lmao :lmao tripple vaxed mask wearing Dr Ding Dong has COVID :lmao

Is asking for Monoclonal Antibodies and gets denied :lmao :lol

Shoulda moved to Florida :lmao :lol



He got his medication, so all good now.

He may want to switch health care providers though.

World peace :tu

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1512600199738310657

[Winehole23]

EOTW

"We're finally out of the fuckin' woods on this shit"

you "there's a variant in Bangladesh that could kill everyone, I'm putting on yet another mask and sanitizing my thumb bell on my bike"More pantomime. Can't tell a straight tale, can you? :lol

You're basically a moron if you think we're in the clear from COVID. Is it the end of the world? No. Well short of that COVID can be -- and is -- a pretty dangerous disease
.

[Thread]

More pantomime. Can't tell a straight tale, can you? :lol

You're basically a moron if you think we're in the clear from COVID. Is it the end of the world? No. Well short of that COVID can be -- and is -- a pretty dangerous disease
.


& Biden has the con...1,012,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

[Winehole23]

find COVID theraputics

https://healthdata.gov/stories/s/COVID-19-Public-Therapeutic-Locator/chu2-wqes

[Winehole23]

nasal spray


Current antibody treatments block SARS-CoV-2 by binding to one of three binding sites on the spike protein. A new protein-based antiviral binds to all three sites on the spike protein, making it more effective than current therapies. The new therapy also is low-cost, easy to manufacture, does not require complicated supply chains with extreme refrigeration and potentially could be self-administered.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220413203131.htm

[DarrinS]

nasal spray



https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220413203131.htm


So, a disinfectant can be put into the body to defeat covid?

[Isitjustme?]

So, a disinfectant can be put into the body to defeat covid?

You never sound more dumb than when you try to be clever.

[DMC]

You never sound more dumb than when you try to be clever.

Wish I could say the same for you.

[Winehole23]

So, a disinfectant can be put into the body to defeat covid?household cleaners are definitely not recommended, are you quite sure that's the word you meant to use?

:lol

[ElNono]

So, a disinfectant can be put into the body to defeat covid?


You never sound more dumb than when you try to be clever.

:lol

[Ef-man]

So, a disinfectant can be put into the body to defeat covid?

Yes, people are saying it works, bigly, go on try it, very famous people, geniuses they say, who know big words.

What harm can it do?

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,015,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

[leemajors]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

[Winehole23]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869


The efficacy of ivermectin in preventing hospitalization or extended observation in an emergency setting among outpatients with acutely symptomatic coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19), the disease caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), is unclear.

[Winehole23]

Pfizer/BioNTech discloses in an SEC filing that it may not be able to prove sufficient efficacy and safety to get permanent regulatory approval.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRL3wQqXoAAnxjR?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

Immune escape clocked for the Pfizer jab. Looks like Omicron is already making one of the mRNA vaccines obsolete.

Biden's vax only policy has been a disaster so far. "Test and treat" faces the same barrier that ordinary health care does: widespread lack of access to providers to begin with, medical ignorance and red tape when you see the doc. (Paxlovid works best when administered within five days of symptom onset, are ya'll able to see your doc that quickly? last time I set an appointment, the quickest I could get was about two weeks.)


In adjusted analyses, effectiveness of two doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine against the omicron variant was 41% (95% CI 21–55) against hospital admission and 31% (16–43) against emergency department admission at 9 months or longer after the second dose. After three doses, effectiveness of BNT162b2 against hospital admission due to the omicron variant was 85% (95% CI 80–89) at less than 3 months but fell to 55% (28–71) at 3 months or longerhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(22)00101-1/fulltext

[Winehole23]

troof

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[spurraider21]

how much of that is attributed to the base rates changing though?

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[Winehole23]

how much of that is attributed to the base rates changing though?

1519324900980318210good question. not sure how to sort that one out, but the evidence for immune escape appears to be getting stronger, per the study on the Pfizer vax above.

[Winehole23]

strong FDA warning on the J&J jab


Use of Johnson and Johnson's (J&J) COVID-19 vaccine should only be limited to certain adults, the FDA said on Thursday (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-limits-use-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-certain-individuals?utm_campaign=Coronavirus+%28COVID-19%29+Update%3A+FDA+Limits+Use+of+Janssen+COVID-1&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery).

Due to an updated analysis of the rare cases of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), which typically occur 1 to 2 weeks after vaccination, use of the J&J vaccine should be restricted to those for whom mRNA vaccines are "not accessible or clinically appropriate," or who would not get vaccinated if not for the J&J vaccine, the agency said.

"Our action reflects our updated analysis of the risk of TTS following administration of this vaccine and limits the use of the vaccine to certain individuals," said Peter Marks, MD, PhD, director of the FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, in a statement.
FDA and CDC initially paused use of the vaccine in April 2021, following 15 cases of TTS. Through March 18 of this year, the agencies have confirmed 60 TTS cases and nine deaths.

"The reporting rate of TTS is 3.23 per million doses of vaccine administered and the reporting rate of TTS deaths is 0.48 per million doses of vaccine administered," the FDA said in its announcement. The greatest risk is among women ages 30 to 49 years (about 8 cases per million doses).

Additional reasons for this action included that the risk factors for TTS were "unknown," that an individual with TTS may deteriorate rapidly "despite prompt diagnosis and treatment," and that TTS may have "long-term and debilitating" health consequences.
The FDA added that they have included a warning statement at the beginning of the J&J vaccine fact sheet (https://www.fda.gov/media/146304/download) for healthcare providers "for prominence," summarizing the risks of TTS.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/98575

[boutons_deux]

Moderna Got Another $300 Million From US Taxpayers While Hoarding Vaccine Recipe

it received another $300 million in U.S. government funding for coronavirus vaccine development in March even

as the company hoarded its technology from the world —

and attempted to undermine (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/14/african-civil-society-slams-moderna-attempt-derail-vaccine-project) a critical vaccine project in South Africa.

https://truthout.org/articles/moderna-got-another-300-million-from-us-taxpayers-while-hoarding-vaccine-recipe/


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/14/african-civil-society-slams-moderna-attempt-derail-vaccine-project

[SpursforSix]

Moderna Got Another $300 Million From US Taxpayers While Hoarding Vaccine Recipe

it received another $300 million in U.S. government funding for coronavirus vaccine development in March even

as the company hoarded its technology from the world —

and attempted to undermine (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/14/african-civil-society-slams-moderna-attempt-derail-vaccine-project) a critical vaccine project in South Africa.

https://truthout.org/articles/moderna-got-another-300-million-from-us-taxpayers-while-hoarding-vaccine-recipe/


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/14/african-civil-society-slams-moderna-attempt-derail-vaccine-project

No shit. Also, I believe Winehole posted the news that funding for different vaccines (primarily from smaller companies) was going to be slashed.

[SpursforSix]

Moderna Got Another $300 Million From US Taxpayers While Hoarding Vaccine Recipe

it received another $300 million in U.S. government funding for coronavirus vaccine development in March even

as the company hoarded its technology from the world —

and attempted to undermine (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/14/african-civil-society-slams-moderna-attempt-derail-vaccine-project) a critical vaccine project in South Africa.

https://truthout.org/articles/moderna-got-another-300-million-from-us-taxpayers-while-hoarding-vaccine-recipe/


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/14/african-civil-society-slams-moderna-attempt-derail-vaccine-project

Not to mention the billions of dollars that will be made from treating long term COVID.

[Winehole23]

Looks like the US government has gone from a vax only strategy to test and treat (for those with solid access to prompt healthcare) -- it's head in sand for the rest of us.

It's pretty clear (and has been for some time, tbh) that the Biden Administration has succumbed to the ethic of mass infection/mass death demanded by our economic masters. It's not about following the science whatsoever.

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[Thread]

Looks like the US government has gone from a vax only strategy to test and treat (for those with solid access to prompt healthcare) -- it's head in sand for the rest of us.

It's pretty clear (and has been for some time, tbh) that the Biden Administration has succumbed to the ethic of mass infection/mass death demanded by our economic masters. It's not about following the science whatsoever.

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Nothing new, whatsover. It's what Trump was told day 1:::"We'll have to herd it out like a 100 years ago, sir. Americans will die, nothing will touch it. That's it, Mr. President."

They told Hussein the same damn thing day 2.

And when Biden got there he was told the same damn thing, Day 1.

[Winehole23]

lol right wingers' folklorical cures for COVID

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[spurraider21]

fake tbh

[Winehole23]

fake tbhfunny tho

there's a nonzero number of people who fucked up their guts taking Ivermectin.

[spurraider21]

funny tho

there's a nonzero number of people who fucked up their guts taking Ivermectin.
fake on all fronts though

owens tweet is fake

the fox tweet is fake

and no such article/study exists

[Winehole23]

fake on all fronts though

owens tweet is fake

the fox tweet is fake

and no such article/study existsI believe you. Right wingers faith in Ivermectin is still hilarious.

[ElNono]

lol right wingers' folklorical cures for COVID

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:tu


fake tbh

damn it

[Winehole23]

Anecdata piling up for COVID rebounds shortly after a full course of Paxlovid.

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[leemajors]

Anecdata piling up for COVID rebounds shortly after a full course of Paxlovid.

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It happened to my girlfriend, she tested negative then the symptoms returned. You can report it on their site fwiw

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,029,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

5.18.2022

[DarrinS]

It happened to my girlfriend, she tested negative then the symptoms returned. You can report it on their site fwiw


Happened to Colbert, too. I guess its not that uncommon

[Winehole23]

It happened to my girlfriend, she tested negative then the symptoms returned. You can report it on their site fwiwhope she came through ok

[leemajors]

hope she came through ok

She is ok now, but had really bad brain fog for several weeks. Would just stop talking in the middle of a sentence. Still has some congestion almost a month later, too.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Promising results against Omicron.


Administered through the intramuscular route, Corbevax, manufactured by Biological E (BE) in association with Texas Children’s Hospital and the Baylor College of Medicine, is a protein subunit vaccine that introduces a bit of the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus into the body to generate an immune response.


So far, about 51.7 million doses of Corbevax have been administered to children.


In a statement (https://www.biologicale.com/news.html), BE said: “BE has conducted a multicentre Phase III placebo controlled heterologous booster clinical trial in 416 subjects from 18 to 80 years of age who were previously vaccinated with two doses of either Covishield or Covaxin at least six months prior to the administration of Corbevax as a booster dose.

“The booster dose of Corbevax increased the neutralising antibody titers in the Covishield and Covaxin groups significantly when compared to placebo.”


“In a subset of subjects evaluated for nAb (neutralising antibodies) against the Omicron variant, the Corbevax booster shot resulted in a significant increase in the nAb titers against the Omicron variant. After the booster dose of CORBEVAX®, Omicron nAbs were observed in 91 per cent and 75 per cent of subjects who had received primary vaccination by Covishield and Covaxin, respectively,” it added.


Neutralising antibodies or nAbs are specific to a pathogen and effectively neutralise them.


“There were no severe or adverse events of interest for three months of follow-up after the booster dose was administered,” the statement said.
https://theprint.in/health/dcgi-approval-in-but-heres-why-you-cant-choose-corbevax-as-your-booster-just-yet/986014/

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,041,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

6.24.2022

[Winehole23]

https://images.theconversation.com/files/337593/original/file-20200526-106811-ql6d51.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1200&h=900.0&fit=crop


Inhalable nanobodies effective against a range of coronaviruses


Mount Sinai-led researchers have shown that tiny, robust immune particles derived from the blood of a llama could provide strong protection against every COVID-19 variant, including Omicron, and 18 similar viruses including SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-1, which was responsible for the 2003 SARS outbreak.


In a paper published in Cell Reports (https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(22)00793-8) on June 28, the team suggests that these “super-immunity” molecules, known as nanobodies, could be precursors to a fast-acting, inhalable antiviral treatment or spray that could potentially be stockpiled and used globally against the evolving pandemic and future viruses.


Compared to the rest of the animal kingdom, llamas, camels, and alpacas have unique immune systems: they produce antibodies with a single polypeptide chain instead of two. This construct results in antibodies that are roughly one-tenth the size of normal ones, are exceptionally stable, and can firmly bind to disease targets. Because of these unique properties, researchers can readily link multiple nanobodies like a daisy chain, so if a virus attempts to escape by mutating, another nanobody is ready to keep it in check.


“Because of their small size and broad neutralizing activities, these camelid nanobodies are likely to be effective against future variants and outbreaks of SARS-like viruses,” says lead author Yi Shi, PhD, Associate Professor of Pharmacological Sciences and Director of the Center of Protein Engineering and Therapeutics at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. “Their superior stability, low production costs, and the ability to protect both the upper and lower respiratory tracts against infection mean they could provide a critical therapeutic to complement vaccines and monoclonal antibody drugs if and when a new COVID-19 variant or SARS-CoV-3 emerges.”


As a critical part of their study, Dr. Shi’s team immunized the llama, named “Wally,” with the SARS-CoV-2 receptor binding domain (RBD), the short fragment or spike of the virus that latches onto the protein on the surface of human cells to gain entry and spread infection. They found that repeated immunization with the RBD resulted in Wally producing nanobodies that recognized not just SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, but a vast array of other coronaviruses—conferring what researchers referred to as “super-immunity.” From this discovery, the team isolated and validated a large repertoire of highly potent antiviral nanobodies effective against a broad spectrum of SARS-like viruses.


“We learned that the tiny size of these nanobodies gives them a crucial advantage against a rapidly mutating virus,” explains co-author Ian Wilson, PhD, Hansen Professor of Structural Biology and Chair of the Department of Integrative Structural and Computational Biology at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California. “Specifically, it allows them to penetrate more of the recesses, nooks, and crannies of the virus surface, and thus bind to multiple regions to prevent the virus from escaping and mutating.”


From this structural information, the team designed an ultrapotent nanobody that can simultaneously bind to two regions on the RBD of SARS-like viruses to prevent mutational escape. The resulting molecule (PiN-31) is extremely stable and, in its aerosolized form, can be used as an inhaled treatment or spray, which the same team showed in previous work can be effective against SARS-CoV-2.


“While more research is needed, we believe that the broad protection, ultrapotent nanobodies we were able to isolate in the lab can be harnessed for use in humans,” says Dr. Shi, who conducted most of the research at the University of Pittsburgh before moving his lab to Icahn Mount Sinai. Increasing the attractiveness of this potential form of treatment, these highly versatile antiviral agents can be rapidly produced virtually anywhere from microbes such as E.coli or yeast cells, he adds. In the past, nanobody therapies have been clinically proven as safe and effective against human diseases, such as a blood clotting disorder and cancer.
https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2022/immune-molecules-from-a-llama-could-provide-protection-against-a-vast-array-of-sars-like-viruses-including-covid-researchers-say

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,044,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

6.30.2022

[Winehole23]

intranasal nitric oxide


A novel nasal spray treatment appears to show promise in quickly clearing the coronavirus that causes covid-19 from our nostrils. In a recent Phase III trial in India, the spray was found to significantly reduce people’s nasal viral load within days and at a faster rate than those who received a placebo. Treated people also tested negative for the virus on a swab test faster than the placebo group.



The potential treatment is being primarily developed (https://sanotize.com/our-patented-platform-technology/) by the Canadian company SaNOtize, with different partners in various countries, such as Glenmark Pharmaceuticals in India. It contains nitric oxide, a molecule with several important roles in the human body that is also used as medication (https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/nitric-oxide-inhalation-route/side-effects/drg-20060881?p=1#:~:text=Nitric%20oxide%20is%20a%20gas ,direct%20supervision%20of%20a%20doctor.) to help widen the airways and blood vessels in people with certain conditions. Some research has indicated that nitric oxide can have a potent antimicrobial effect as well, and that’s led to hopes that it could be deployed as a frontline covid-19 treatment for people soon after a suspected or confirmed exposure to the coronavirus. If so, a nasal spray may be the best method of delivery, since infection often starts in the upper respiratory tract.
https://gizmodo.com/a-nasal-spray-seems-to-help-clear-coronavirus-in-clinic-1849191972

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,051,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

7.19.2022

[SnakeBoy]

intranasal nitric oxide

https://gizmodo.com/a-nasal-spray-seems-to-help-clear-coronavirus-in-clinic-1849191972

I guess the listerine didn't work eh

[Winehole23]

I guess the listerine didn't work ehno, but nebulized ethanol might

https://www.walshmedicalmedia.com/open-access/disinfection-of-sarscov2-covid19-in-human-respiratory-tract-by-controlled-ethanol-vapor-inhalation-combined-with-asprin-80259.html

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2003/2003.12444.pdf

[SnakeBoy]

no, but nebulized ethanol might

https://www.walshmedicalmedia.com/open-access/disinfection-of-sarscov2-covid19-in-human-respiratory-tract-by-controlled-ethanol-vapor-inhalation-combined-with-asprin-80259.html

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2003/2003.12444.pdf

https://i0.wp.com/thriftysustainability.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/steam_inhale_inhalation_flu_cold_remedy_herbal_rem edies_rosemary_healing_respiratory_system_immune_b oost.jpg?resize=350%2C351

[SnakeBoy]

CDC Recommends Novavax, the 4th COVID Vaccine to Be Authorized

...but only for unvaxxed...no boosters :lol

[DarrinS]

I recommend not giving a fuck.

[Winehole23]

I recommend not giving a fuck.one million souls (and counting) salute you from the graveyard

[SnakeBoy]

one million souls (and counting) salute you from the graveyard

Novavax showed greater efficacy against all circulating omicron variants than even the omicron specific mrna boosters

but you're not allowed to get it unless you're unvaxxed :lol

[Winehole23]

Novavax showed greater efficacy against all circulating omicron variants than even the omicron specific mrna boosters

but you're not allowed to get it unless you're unvaxxed :lollaugh it up, no lives matter to you.

[SnakeBoy]

laugh it up, no lives matter to you.

FDA says you can't have it :lol

[Winehole23]

FDA says you can't have it :lolwhy is that funny to you?

[Winehole23]

ST fuck everybody crew sounding off

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,052,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

7.21.2022

[Winehole23]

Warp Speed 2.0, tbh

Can't happen soon enough.


Why do I remain optimistic? Because SARS-CoV-2 is a much easier virus to prevail over than influenza. We have never had a flu vaccine with 95% efficacy; we’re lucky to have multivalent ones that are 40% effective. Tamiflu is a weak hitter compared with Paxlovid. The virus’s main protease (Mpro) makes for an enviable choke point to take it down SARS-CoV-2, even though resistance to the drug from mutations in Mpro will likely manifest in the months ahead. Although the mutations with functional consequences have been considerable with SARS-CoV-2, they are minimal compared with the head of the influenza virus. Variant-proof ‘universal’ coronavirus vaccines and nasal vaccines to block transmission and infection are our way to turn off the heat and get ahead of the virus’s evolutionary arc. We know what we need to do; we’re just not doing it. The boiling frog metaphor is contributing to the lack of taking action.https://erictopol.substack.com/p/the-pandemic-and-the-boiling-frog

[Thread]

& Biden has the con...1,053,000 Americans dead in the ground of the COVID.
& counting!!!

7.22.2022

[Winehole23]

Phase III trials done for Bharat Biotech intranasal vaccine. Further tests needed to verify whether the vaccine has any sterilizing effect.

https://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/health/covid-intranasal-vaccine-phase-iii-trials-over-proven-safe-bharat-biotech/2630960/

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[Winehole23]

Paxlovid great for people 65 and older, younger folks, not so much, according to one study.


Pfizer's COVID-19 pill appears to provide little or no benefit for younger adults, while still reducing the risk of hospitalization and death for high-risk seniors, according to a large study published Wednesday.

The results from a 109,000-patient Israeli study are likely to renew questions about the U.S. government's use of Paxlovid, which has become the go-to treatment for COVID-19 due to its at-home convenience. The Biden administration has spent more than $10 billion purchasing the drug and making it available at thousands of pharmacies through its test-and-treat initiative.

The researchers found that Paxlovid reduced hospitalizations among people 65 and older by roughly 75% when given shortly after infection. That's consistent with earlier results used to authorize the drug in the U.S. and other nations.

But people between the ages of 40 and 65 saw no measurable benefit, according to the analysis of medical records.

The study has limitations due to its design, which compiled data from a large Israeli health system rather than enrolling patients in a randomized study with a control group — the gold standard for medical research.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/08/24/paxlovid-pfizer-covid-pill-benefits-adults/7889907001/

[DarrinS]

Paxlovid great for people 65 and older, younger folks, not so much, according to one study.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/08/24/paxlovid-pfizer-covid-pill-benefits-adults/7889907001/


Worked wonders for Fauci and Biden. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Lolooooloklllollllloolloooollo


No one healthy is dying at any rate higher than flu


You lost.
BTW R.I.P old man tholdren. Played with fire raving in Brazil and paid the price. :depressed

[baseline bum]

BTW R.I.P old man tholdren. Played with fire raving in Brazil and paid the price. :depressed

He's not HemisfairBoomer?

[Winehole23]

Vaccines mitigate transmission according to this study, prior infection works about half as well.

(This study relates to Omicron.)


The team found that among individuals with COVID-19, those who received at least one vaccine shot were 24% less likely to infect close contacts— in this case cellmates — compared with unvaccinated prisoners. People who had been infected before were 21% less likely to infect others compared with prisoners with no prior infection, and those who had been both vaccinated and previously infected were 41% less likely to pass on the virus compared with unvaccinated individuals without a previous infection.


[Nathan Lo, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of California, San Francisco] says he is surprised at the dose–response relationships; each vaccine dose a person has had reduced the risk of passing on the virus by a further 12%, on average. How recently people had been vaccinated was also important. For every 5 weeks that passed since a person’s last vaccine dose, the risk of transmitting the infection to a close contact increased by 6%.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02328-0

[Winehole23]

Burr and Inhofe are right, Warp Speed 2.0 is way overdue

https://www.inhofe.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/inhofe-burr-urge-president-biden-to-create-operation-warp-speed-20-as-new-covid-variants-arise

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/status/1570121907718205441

[spurraider21]

oh yeah. thats where the decline of vaccine confidence has come from.

[Winehole23]

Another possible engineering approach to limiting transmission. Living with COVID and reducing harm from infection aren't contradictory.


Many infectious diseases, including COVID-19, are transmitted by airborne pathogens. There is a need for effective environmental control measures which, ideally, are not reliant on human behaviour. One potential solution is Krypton Chloride (KrCl) excimer lamps (often referred to as Far-UVC), which can efficiently inactivate pathogens, such as coronaviruses and influenza, in air. Research demonstrates that when KrCl lamps are filtered to remove longer-wavelength ultraviolet emissions they do not induce acute reactions in the skin or eyes, nor delayed effects such as skin cancer. While there is laboratory evidence for Far-UVC efficacy, there is limited evidence in full-sized rooms. For the first time, we show that Far-UVC deployed in a room-sized chamber effectively inactivates aerosolised Staphylococcus aureus. At a room ventilation rate of 3 air-changes-per-hour (ACH), with 5 filtered-sources the steady-state pathogen load was reduced by 98.4% providing an additional 184 equivalent air changes (eACH). This reduction was achieved using Far-UVC irradiances consistent with current American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists threshold limit values for skin for a continuous 8-h exposure. Our data indicate that Far-UVC is likely to be more effective against common airborne viruses, including SARS-CoV-2, than bacteria and should thus be an effective and “hands-off” technology to reduce airborne disease transmission. The findings provide room-scale data to support the design and development of effective Far-UVC systems.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08462-z

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeoI0MMXwAAAEGs?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

Did y'all die on 10/10?

[Winehole23]

Where's our pancoronavirus vaccine?

Where's our intranasal vaccine?

Where's all the SARS-CoV-2 Gen 2.0 tech?

The pathogen evolves swiftly to evade acquired immunity of every kind, but the urgency to counter it seems to be flagging.

Where's our Warp Speed 2.0?

[DarrinS]

Did y'all die on 10/10?

Nope. Non issue

[Winehole23]

Guanfacine, developed in the lab of Amy Arnsten, PhD, Albert E. Kent Professor of Neuroscience and professor of psychology, was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of ADHD in 2009, but clinicians have also used it extensively off-label for other prefrontal cortical disorders such as traumatic brain injury (TBI) and PTSD. Now, Arnsten has joined forces with Arman Fesharaki-Zadeh, MD, PhD, assistant professor of psychiatry and of neurology, who has been treating long COVID patients with a combination of guanfacine and N-acetylcysteine (NAC), an anti-oxidant also used for the treatment of TBI. The combined therapy, they found, was successful in relieving brain fog for their small cohort of patients. And while larger, placebo-controlled clinical trials will be needed to establish these drugs as a bona fide treatment for post-COVID-19 neurocognitive deficits, they say patients can obtain them now if their doctors wish to prescribe them

[Winehole23]

“There’s a paucity of treatment out there for long COVID brain fog, so when I kept seeing the benefits of this treatment in patients, I felt a sense of urgency to disseminate this information,” says Fesharaki-Zadeh. “You don’t need to wait to be part of a research trial. You can ask your physician—these drugs are affordable and widely available.” Because they are FDA-approved and have been used for years, their safety for patients is established.https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/potential-new-treatment-for-brain-fog-in-long-covid-patients/

[Winehole23]

Interesting details on Novavax. Seems to be better than the bivalent booster and more durable than mRNA vaccines, without the unpleasant hangover.

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[Winehole23]

Far-UV lighting kills microbes and is safe to use.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03360-w

[Winehole23]

Virovores aren't new, but they're not well understood either. The neologism might have legs.

https://schaechter.asmblog.org/schaechter/2023/01/the-who-ate-whom-of-terms-in-biology-virovory.html

[Winehole23]

Small sample size, but encouraging. "As low as" $1 per dose.

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[Winehole23]

Two years and 700,000 deaths too late, but it's something.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/project-next-gen-the-united-states
https://web.archive.org/web/20230410202152/https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/10/operation-warp-speed-successor-project-nextgen/

[Winehole23]

There was never anything wrong with wondering if safe, legal treatment for COVID 19 might not be already be available at the pharmacy, the problem was seizing the very first thing proposed, and never wavering.


By day 300 of follow-up, 93 (8.3%) of 1,126 participants said they had received a diagnosis of long COVID by a provider.


"There was no effect on cumulative incidence of long COVID with ivermectin (HR 0.99, 95% CI 0.59 to 1.64) or fluvoxamine (1.36, 0.78 to 2.34) compared with placebo," the authors said. "Outpatient treatment with metformin reduced long COVID incidence by about 41%, with an absolute reduction of 4.1%, compared with placebo."https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/common-diabetes-drug-shown-prevent-long-covid

[Winehole23]

While we're at it, where are the nasal vaccines? The main pathway of SARS2 is respiratory.

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[Winehole23]

Fall boosters to cost $110

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[Winehole23]

Novavax is looking like a solid booster. Heterologous vaccination is probably a good strategy.

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[Winehole23]

Metformin might be an effective therapy for Long COVID


Outpatient treatment with metformin reduced long COVID incidence by about 41%, with an absolute reduction of 4·1%, compared with placebo. Metformin has clinical benefits when used as outpatient treatment for COVID-19 and is globally available, low-cost, and safe.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(23)00299-2/fulltext

[koriwhat]

No one gives a fuck but pathetic losers like Winehole23. Take all them shots bro, take extra shots, and after those take some more shots!

[ChumpDumper]

No one gives a fuck but pathetic losers like Winehole23. Take all them shots bro, take extra shots, and after those take some more shots!

Why do Trumptards care so hard they have to constantly try to get other men's attention saying they "don't care"?

[Winehole23]

COVID vaccines and therapies are still being developed and tested, academics and the press still write about it, millions of private individuals post about it online, millions still get sick every year yet somehow -- no one cares but me.

[koriwhat]

COVID vaccines and therapies are still being developed and tested, academics and the press still write about it, millions of private individuals post about it online, millions still get sick every year yet somehow -- no one cares but me.

I hope you all get boosted into oblivion! :tu

Go get all the boosters you can bro! Go now!

[Winehole23]

maybe saying no one cares is just the most grandiose way of saying I don't care.

[koriwhat]

maybe saying no one cares is just the most grandiose way of saying I don't care.

I only care that you're not boosted enough... You should go get another round tbh. :lol

Btw my initial reply was sarcasm but the above isn't. :tu

[hater]

I hope you all get boosted into oblivion! :tu

Go get all the boosters you can bro! Go now!

:lol

[Winehole23]

You two keep boosting my signal here, so thanks!

[Winehole23]

Still no approval for Novavax for people who already got an mRNA or J&J shot, but good news that jabs will be available to un/under insured folks.

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[Winehole23]

Novavax just got an EUA from the FDA.

[Winehole23]

https://x.com/EricTopol/status/1710039363701346769?s=20

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Brain cell senescence alleviated in mice.


In postmortem brains of patients with severe COVID-19 we observed increased senescent cell accumulation compared with age-matched controls. Exposure of human brain organoids to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) induced cellular senescence, and transcriptomic analysis revealed a unique SARS-CoV-2 inflammatory signature. Senolytic treatment of infected brain organoids blocked viral replication and prevented senescence in distinct neuronal populations. In human-ACE2-overexpressing mice, senolytics improved COVID-19 clinical outcomes, promoted dopaminergic neuron survival and alleviated viral and proinflammatory gene expression. Collectively our results demonstrate an important role for cellular senescence in driving brain aging and SARS-CoV-2-induced neuropathology, and a therapeutic benefit of senolytic treatments.https://www.nature.com/articles/s43587-023-00519-6

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hope you all get boosted into oblivion! :tu

Go get all the boosters you can bro! Go now!

Nothing to see here. Joey does not want to feel as if he needs to get vaccinated or otherwise treated. This is how he copes with that feeling.

[Winehole23]

Delivery of COVID-19 vaccines directly to the lungs and nose can stop SARS-CoV-2 infections in their tracks, according to a trio of new studies in monkeys. The research offers a boost to the wave of ‘mucosal’ COVID-19 vaccines (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02824-3) now in development — and provides clues about how they might be improved.


Until now, there has been little evidence that mucosal vaccines, which are taken by nose or mouth, shield people against infection any better than existing COVID-19 jabs do (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02840-x). Even so, some countries have already approved such vaccines (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02851-0), and key trials are under way in the United States, with others set to start.


Together, the studies show that how and where vaccines are delivered can have a profound effect on the immunity generated and the protection conferred. The latest results also raise hopes that mucosal vaccines that offer ‘sterilizing’ immunity — complete blockage of infection — could become a reality.


“These studies are showing you can get near sterilizing immunity,” says Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut. “It’s not complete science fiction to think about developing vaccines that would stop transmission and infection.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-04003-4

[Winehole23]

https://x.com/EricTopol/status/1710039363701346769?s=20

1710039363701346769

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[Winehole23]

It's so weird that alleviating sickness is now an electoral wedge, and that supporting ongoing, rampant transmission of a respiratory disease that is vascular, neurotropic and chronic is now an established political bloc.

The GOP is an explicit death cult. The Dems do it sotto voce, with handwaving in the direction of actually caring.

[Thread]

It's so weird that alleviating sickness is now an electoral wedge, and that supporting ongoing, rampant transmission of a respiratory disease that is vascular, neurotropic and chronic is now an established political bloc.

The GOP is an explicit death cult. The Dems do it sotto voce, with handwaving in the direction of actually caring.

It always was. You fucks caught a hanger and turned it that way to draw a bead on President Trump, and you've never had to look back, ya fortunate fucks. Trump killed the first 400k, Biden killed the rest; roughly 790k, give or take an American tagged & bagged.

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

Novavax is FDA approved (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-authorizes-updated-novavax-covid-19-vaccine-better-protect-against-currently-circulating)

[Winehole23]

this is promising...in rhesus macaques


Mucosal COVID-19 vaccine beats mRNA in upper airway defense (news-medical.net) (https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240905/Mucosal-COVID-19-boosters-outperform-mRNA-shots-in-preventing-upper-airway-infections.aspx)

Results

The study found that the viral replication in the lungs and the nose of the animals that were administered the mucosal adenoviral vector vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 was minimal for the animals in both the aerosol and intranasal administration groups.

In contrast, the animals that were intramuscularly administered the booster dose of the bivalent mRNA vaccine showed lower levels of viral replication only in the lower airways.

The mucosal vaccine also resulted in durable immunoglobulin (Ig) A and IgG responses in the airways and activated B cells specific for the spike protein in the lungs, which was not observed in the case of the intramuscular bivalent mRNA vaccine booster dose.

The study found that the aerosolized delivery of the mucosal vaccine elicited broad mucosal immunity in multiple respiratory compartments, which could rapidly suppress the replication of SARS-CoV-2.

In comparison, the intranasally administered booster dose of the same vaccine could only boost the IgA titers in the airway, which could prevent the local replication of the virus but could not inhibit viral replication in the lungs as effectively as the aerosolized booster dose or elicit memory B cells specific to the spike protein.

Conclusions

Overall, the findings showed that a booster dose of mucosal adenoviral vector vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, administered as an aerosol, was most effective in controlling viral replication in the lungs and the nose.

The IgA titers in the airways were indicative of the protection in the upper respiratory compartments. In contrast, memory B cell and T cell (https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-are-T-Cells.aspx) responses, as well as IgA and IgG titers, correlated with the protection conferred in the lower airways.

[Winehole23]

1831324118437753176https://x.com/bhanlon15/status/1831324118437753176

[Winehole23]

Novavax, old-fangled inexpensive protein-based

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https://x.com/Daniel_E_Park/status/1857633676957462729

[Winehole23]

yet more evidence for the efficacy of heterologous boosting, too

if your primary series was another jab, maybe use a different one this time

[Winehole23]

(good god, ask your doctor first, I'm not one)

[koriwhat]

Lol at you TRUMPERS, regressives, for taking Trump's vaccines. :lol

Remember that regressives. Tell your daddy hello come January 2025.

[Winehole23]

I'm not sure what you're talking about, I tipped my cap to Trump/Navarro on Operation Warp Speed a long time ago.

I remain a fan, I think I've been pretty upfront about that.

[koriwhat]

I'm not sure what you're talking about, I tipped my cap to Trump/Navarro on Operation Warp Speed a long time ago.

I remain a fan, I think I've been pretty upfront about that.

Not everything is about you WH. Give it a break.

[Winehole23]

Not everything is about you WH. Give it a break.I'm not in the cohort of regressives you specifically mentioned?

what a relief

[koriwhat]

I'm not in the cohort of regressives you specifically mentioned?

what a relief

Def in their sphere. You're not quite CumDummy or Spurs Homer level though, far from it tbh.

[Winehole23]

Aside, I think part of the subtext of the whole catbox political narrative is how the memory of the robust Trump/Biden social safety net in 2020/1 was furiously buried both by Biden and Trump. Activist government saved all our asses in 2020. It also spared us the GDP dip that other countries who spent less are still experiencing.

(Germany and England have never recovered.)

The memory of the demonstration of the ability of government in a global emergency to decide to improve people's lives concretely -- and then to do it immediately -- had to be smothered.

[Winehole23]

like a turd in a catbox

[Winehole23]

so here we are today, with a president who's about to rob the plebs, the poor, the elderly, the foundlings and the sick to pay for tax cuts for rich people, like Republicans always do

[Winehole23]

"it's their religion"

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:6wwty6iar2ya7heph6d25cw3/bafkreia7mpn3sktfq7daqwr6q5hhzjbt6wqtpme3xjb6kiyiu zkikyq5te@jpeg
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[SnakeBoy]

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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full.pdf

[ChumpDumper]

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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full.pdf

Are you now anti-Trump vaccines, snacks?

[Winehole23]

just get the protein based vax (Novavax) if you're worried about the mRNA jab

probably more durable

[SnakeBoy]

Are you now anti-Trump vaccines, snacks?

That's an odd response

Do you think that study is anti-vaccine?

[DarrinS]

just get the protein based vax (Novavax) if you're worried about the mRNA jab

probably more durable

Just stop taking jabs

[Winehole23]

Just stop taking jabswhy?

organ and vascular damage from COVID is cumulative

I think I'd rather protect myself

[Winehole23]

there's also evidence Novavax clears SARS2 from the upper airways -- it might actually help to prevent transmission

[ChumpDumper]

That's an odd response

Do you think that study is anti-vaccine?

I am asking for your personal opinion directly.

It should be easy for you to answer without shitting yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

Just stop taking jabs

For everything?

Ever?

[ChumpDumper]

Just stop taking jabs

Great advice, doc!

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https://x.com/KUT/status/1893999637956079780

The individual from Gaines County also traveled to multiple areas in San Antonio on Saturday, Feb. 15. They include the University of Texas at San Antonio main campus between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m, the River Walk attractions — Wax Museum, Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and Ripley’s Illusion Lab — between 2:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m., and Mr. Crabby's Seafood and Bar in Live Oak between 6 p.m. and 8 p.m.

The person also visited a New Braunfels Buc-ees on Feb. 16 between 9 a.m. and noon.

[SnakeBoy]

Vaccinated people are at risk?

[ChumpDumper]

Vaccinated people are at risk? You don't know much about vaccines, do you?

[Blake]

Great advice, doc!

1893999637956079780

https://x.com/KUT/status/1893999637956079780

The individual from Gaines County also traveled to multiple areas in San Antonio on Saturday, Feb. 15. They include the University of Texas at San Antonio main campus between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m, the River Walk attractions — Wax Museum, Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and Ripley’s Illusion Lab — between 2:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m., and Mr. Crabby's Seafood and Bar in Live Oak between 6 p.m. and 8 p.m.

The person also visited a New Braunfels Buc-ees on Feb. 16 between 9 a.m. and noon.

Lol taking kids to Twin Peaks

[Blake]

You don't know much about vaccines, do you?

5 years after Covid and still....

[Winehole23]

Vaccinated people are at risk?before 1968 in the US the MMR vaccine was dead virus based, in 1968 they started using a partially attenuated virus

not sure what the age recommendation is, but people who got the MMR vaccine before 1968 might be recommended to get it again. people who got the live attenuated virus vaccine are probably good for life, according to the CDC.

[Winehole23]

more info here:

Do You Need A Measles Booster? Your Birth Year Will Reveal The Answer (https://www.inverse.com/health/measles-mmr-vaccine-birth-year-booster)

[Blake]

Fucking retarded antivaxxers

[Winehole23]

personalized mRNA vaccines for pancreatic (PDAC) cancer appear to perform better than the current standard of care -- ~75% survival at three years

cohort is small, though

Fig. 1: mRNA vaccine immune response correlates with delayed PDAC recurrence at three-year follow-up. | Nature (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08508-4/figures/1)

[Winehole23]

no golf clap for a potential pancreatic cancer vax?

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

no golf clap for a potential pancreatic cancer vax?

:lol

It will never make it to market with those poor results

[Winehole23]

ok, doc

[Winehole23]

how about a jab that prevents cervical cancer?

too kooky for y'all?


A new government report adds to evidence that the HPV vaccine (https://apnews.com/article/hpv-vaccine-oral-cancer-prevention-males-749bf59c10d8a5a86c71c89c50eda0cb), once called dangerous by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is preventing cervical cancer in young women.


The report comes after Kennedy pledged (https://www.statnews.com/2025/01/31/rfk-jr-hhs-gardasil-litigation-fees-divest-son-wisner-baum/) to give a family member any fees he might earn from HPV vaccine litigation. In a 2019 video posted on the anti-vaccine nonprofit Children’s Health Defense website, Kennedy called Gardasil “the most dangerous vaccine ever invented.”


The new report (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/wr/mm7406a4.htm?s_cid=mm7406a4_w) found that from 2008 to 2022, rates for precancerous lesions decreased about 80% among 20- to 24-year-old women who were screened for cervical cancer. The estimates were published Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/27/hpv-vaccine-prevents-cervical-cancer-women-cdc-report/

[Winehole23]

RFK Jr backtracks, will send MMR jabs to Texas


Two days after initially downplaying the outbreak as “not unusual,” the US health secretary, Robert F Kennedy (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/robert-f-kennedy-jr) Jr, on Friday said he recognizes the serious impact of the ongoing measles epidemic in Texas – in which a child died recently – and said the government is providing resources, including protective vaccines.

“Ending the measles outbreak is a top priority for me and my extraordinary team,” Kennedy – an avowed anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who for years has sown doubts about the safety and efficacy of vaccines – said in a post on X.

Kennedy said his federal Department of Health and Human Services would send Texas 2,000 doses of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine – typically (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html#:~:text=Children%20should%20get%20two%2 0doses,through%206%20years%20of%20age.) meant to be given to children in a series of two shots at 12 to 15 months old as well as between the ages of four and six years old – through its immunization program.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/01/kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-health-department

[Winehole23]

apparently, MAHA doesn't want there to be any form of prevention for COVID-19


Vaxart, a small South San Francisco company that focuses on oral vaccine research, announced (https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/03/20/3046685/25416/en/Vaxart-Provides-Business-Update-and-Reports-Full-Year-2024-Financial-Results.html) Thursday that it had to lay off 10% of its workers after the U.S. government issued a stop work order on its major COVID-19 vaccine trial. Vaxart had 105 workers at the end of 2024, per a filing (https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000072444/000143774925008572/vxrt20241231_10k.htm), so the cuts are likely to hit around 10 staff members; local biotechs have been shedding staff left (https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/bay-area-biotech-company-lays-off-more-staff-20230590.php) and right (https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/cargo-therapeutics-layoffs-failed-trial-20068322.php) this year.

The stop work order is a major blow for a company that had already seen its stock price (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VXRT/) dwindle. Vaxart got a positive reception to the vaccine study’s initial data from a safety board, and was planning to begin a larger trial after the FDA provided input. Instead, the study and company have been thrown into limbo — Vaxart will learn within 90 days whether the trial and its massive contract are canceled for good.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/bay-area-biotech-layoffs-trump-20234682.php

[Winehole23]

“We were not provided a reason for the stop work order,” Lo said in a call (https://www.investing.com/news/transcripts/earnings-call-transcript-vaxart-q4-2024-misses-eps-but-beats-revenue-93CH-3940740) with analysts on Thursday. He added that it’s in effect for 90 days, within which “the stop work order will either be canceled, extended or work on this project will be terminated.”

[Winehole23]

HHS withdraws COVID vaccine recommendation for anyone under 65 without a risk factor for COVID, including pregnant women.

*Last week* the CDC mentioned pregnancy as a significant risk factor for COVID, for both the mother and the fetus.

Seems Trumplandia doesn't want people to choose for themselves what's right medically for their own families and their own bodies, instead they want to determine that for everybody paternalistically: "this is common sense"... no COVID vaccine for anyone who doesn't already have one foot in the grave.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists disagrees:


ACOG Statement on HHS Recommendations Regarding the COVID Vaccine During Pregnancy

The following is a statement from Steven J. Fleischman, MD, FACOG, president of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG):

“ACOG is concerned about and extremely disappointed by the announcement that HHS will no longer recommend COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy. As ob-gyns who treat patients every day, we have seen firsthand how dangerous COVID-19 infection can be during pregnancy and for newborns who depend on maternal antibodies from the vaccine for protection. We also understand that despite the change in recommendations from HHS, the science has not changed. It is very clear that COVID-19 infection during pregnancy can be catastrophic and lead to major disability, and it can cause devastating consequences for families. The COVID-19 vaccine is safe during pregnancy, and vaccination can protect our patients and their infants after birth.

“In fact, growing evidence shows just how much vaccination during pregnancy protects the infant after birth, with the vast majority of hospitalized infants (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7338a1.htm#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20infan ts%20hospitalized,during%20October%202023%E2%80%93 April%202024.#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20infa nts%20hospitalized,during%20October%202023%E2%80%9 3April%202024.) less than six months of age—those who are not yet eligible for vaccination—born to unvaccinated mothers.

“Following this announcement, we are worried about our patients in the future, who may be less likely to choose vaccination during pregnancy despite the clear and definitive evidence demonstrating its benefit. We are concerned about access implications and what this recommendation will mean for insurance coverage of the COVID-19 vaccine for those who do choose to get vaccinated during pregnancy. And as ob-gyns, we are very concerned about the potential deterioration of vaccine confidence in the future.”

https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2025/05/acog-statement-on-hhs-recommendations-regarding-the-covid-vaccine-during-pregnancy

[Winehole23]

when faced with an array of policy options, Trumplandia can be absolutely trusted to pick the deadliest one

10/10, no notes

[DarrinS]

HHS withdraws COVID vaccine recommendation for anyone under 65 without a risk factor for COVID, including pregnant women.

*Last week* the CDC mentioned pregnancy as a significant risk factor for COVID, for both the mother and the fetus.

Seems Trumplandia doesn't want people to choose for themselves what's right medically for their own families and their own bodies, instead they want to determine that for everybody paternalistically: "this is common sense"... no COVID vaccine for anyone who doesn't already have one foot in the grave.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists disagrees:

https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2025/05/acog-statement-on-hhs-recommendations-regarding-the-covid-vaccine-during-pregnancy


:tu

[Winehole23]

:tuyour answer is unclear

you agree with the obstetricians and gynecologists?

[DarrinS]

your answer is unclear

you agree with the obstetricians and gynecologists?

I agree that healthy young people shouldn't get covid shots.

[Winehole23]

I agree that healthy young people shouldn't get covid shots.

do pregnant women and young people not need protection against COVID?

why should that familial decision be someone else's call?

[Winehole23]

from 2022

pregnancy is a major risk factor for COVID, for the mother and the baby

in this case, vaccination alleviates the risk


Late one afternoon last October, Dr. Shelley Odronic sat in her office and, just as she had thousands of times before, slid a rectangular glass slide onto her microscope.

A pathologist who works in rural Ohio, Odronic leaned forward to examine tissue from the placenta of a woman who had recently given birth. She increased the magnification on the microscope. Never had she seen so many tiny, congealed reservoirs of blood or such severe inflammation of the tissue, a sign the placenta had been fighting an infection.

“Right away, I knew it wasn’t compatible with life,” Odronic said.

She asked her secretary to print out the patient’s chart. In dark letters were the words “fetal demise.” A stillbirth, the death of a fetus at 20 weeks or more of pregnancy. But that didn’t solve the mystery. Odronic had examined many placentas from pregnancies that ended in stillbirth. None looked like this — withered and scarred.

Odronic kept reading. No chronic medical conditions. Good prenatal care. Then, buried in the middle of the report, she spotted something. Seven days before the stillbirth, the mother had tested positive for COVID-19. Odronic wondered if the virus could explain the damage to the placenta. In the world of placenta pathology, a new affliction is unusual, especially one so dramatic in presentation and so devastating in effect.

Her mind traveled to Dr. Amy Heerema-McKenney, a pathologist at Cleveland Clinic and an expert on the placenta, who had trained Odronic during residency. Odronic went to sleep that night with a pit in her stomach and a plan to call her former teacher in the morning.

Heerema-McKenney was in her office when the phone rang. As she listened, she knew that what Odronic was describing was what she and her colleagues had observed repeatedly over the past several months: a patient positive for the coronavirus, a placenta destroyed by COVID-19, a baby stillborn.

Their next discovery was equally stunning. None of the stillbirths they studied involved a pregnant person who had been fully vaccinated. The doctors checked with colleagues across the country and around the world. The fatal pattern held.
https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-maternity-stillbirth-vaccines-pregnancy

[Winehole23]

approximately one in four children experience long lasting symptoms post-infection

also, organ damage from COVID infection is cumulative -- very a good reason to prevent infection, especially in the young


Our study suggests that BNT162b2 was effective in reducing risk of long COVID outcomes in children and adolescents during the Delta and Omicron periods. The mediation analysis indicates the vaccine’s effectiveness is primarily derived from its role in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00541-8/fulltext

[Winehole23]

Results

Sixty-seven studies (1 813 947 women) were included. Overall, in test-negative design studies, pregnant women fully vaccinated with any COVID-19 vaccine had 61% reduced odds of SARS-CoV-2 infection during pregnancy (OR 0.39, 95% CI 0.21 to 0.75; 4 studies, 23 927 women; I2=87.2%) and 94% reduced odds of hospital admission (OR 0.06, 95% CI 0.01 to 0.71; 2 studies, 868 women; I2=92%). In adjusted cohort studies, the risk of hypertensive disorders in pregnancy was reduced by 12% (RR 0.88, 95% CI 0.82 to 0.92; 2 studies; 115 085 women), while caesarean section was reduced by 9% (OR 0.91, 95% CI 0.85 to 0.98; 6 studies; 30 192 women). We observed an 8% reduction in the risk of neonatal intensive care unit admission (RR 0.92, 95% CI 0.87 to 0.97; 2 studies; 54 569 women) in babies born to vaccinated versus not vaccinated women. In general, vaccination during pregnancy was not associated with increased risk of adverse pregnancy or perinatal outcomes. Pain at the injection site was the most common side effect reported (77%, 95% CI 52% to 94%; 11 studies; 27 195 women).

Conclusion

COVID-19 vaccines are effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection and related complications in pregnant women.

https://gh.bmj.com/content/9/4/e014247

[TSA]

do pregnant women and young people not need protection against COVID?

why should that familial decision be someone else's call?

No one banned anyone from getting the vaccine they simply aren't recommending it to certain groups anymore. You posted 5 different times on this single subject...did you not read a single thing you linked?

[Winehole23]

I didn't say anything was banned, crankypants

[GAustex]

Release testing data sealed for 75 years
Lying left wing asshole

[ChumpDumper]

Release testing data sealed for 75 years
Lying left wing asshole

Why isn't Trump doing that for Trump vaccines?

Is he a lying left wing asshole?

[TSA]

I didn't say anything was banned, crankypants


Seems Trumplandia doesn't want people to choose for themselves what's right medically for their own families and their own bodies, instead they want to determine that for everybody paternalistically: "this is common sense"... no COVID vaccine for anyone who doesn't already have one foot in the grave.


do pregnant women and young people not need protection against COVID?

why should that familial decision be someone else's call?

No one is being forced to not get vaccinated. No one is having their choice to get vaccinated taken away. Pregnant mother's are sill making the call on getting vaccinated.

Stop spamming and start reading what you link before you post.

[ChumpDumper]

Why would Trump stop recommending the Trump vaccine for pregnant mothers?

All vibes and emotions.

[Winehole23]

Trump is not just taking choices away

He is taking away effective and proven methods of mitigation and prevention

and stifling innovation




More suffering and death, that's the MAGA way

https://www.statnews.com/2025/05/28/moderna-flu-vaccine-development-cancelled-by-hhs-mrna-platform-offers-speedy-pandemic-response/

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j76trmiofvaxxpvx2vnb2vwf/bafkreie4chmwonhgiyovdi77nzgv6cnfzsjmqwbwb4xcwh225 fg7duz6ca@jpeg

[Winehole23]

it's more plausible that vaccine denialism drove deaths than the jab

[Winehole23]

no vaccines for anybody?

HHS is a Republican death panel now

freedom from proven, available mitigation and treatment of disease may soon be assured in the USA

https://apnews.com/article/kennedy-cdc-acip-vaccines-3790c89f45b6314c5c7b686db0e3a8f9

[DarrinS]

You so want this to be a thing. The bigger story is the vax fucking up young males.

[Winehole23]

You so want this to be a thing. The bigger story is the vax fucking up young males.not sure what you're talking about, can you expand on that?

[ChumpDumper]

You so want this to be a thing. The bigger story is the vax fucking up young males.

You so want that to be a thing.

[Winehole23]

I used the subjunctive

I do not want RFK Jr further streamlining access to health care out of existence to be a thing

[Winehole23]

some people talk about the bad thing in the hopes that a suitable mitigation of public harm can be had

y'all talk about bad things just to scare people and screw them

not just hoping for the bad thing, but actually working to bring it about, so you can do it to them again

[Winehole23]

low-effort, low-trust

lazy nihilists

[Winehole23]

(you can't build a basketball team like that)

[velik_m]

‘Absolutely insane’ RFK Jr. fact-checked by doctors after bizarre Fox News appearance

...
Kennedy, a longtime vaccine skeptic, ousted the 17-member Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) earlier this week in a stunning move that shocked medical experts. He defended his action in an interview with Fox News’ Martha MacCallum, claiming that “97% of the people on the committee had conflicts of interest.”

He repeated falsehoods about vaccines that were immediately fact checked by doctors on social media platform X. He falsely claimed there were between 69 and 92 mandatory vaccines in the U.S. today and that most of the vaccines, excluding the COVID-19 vaccine, had not gone through safety tests.

“So nobody has any idea what the risk profiles are on these products, and we don’t know whether they have anything to do with the epidemic of chronic disease,” Kennedy said, presenting no evidence for his claims.

“These are products that are designed to deregulate your immune system, to change your immune system for life, and we are now having an epidemic of immune dysregulation in our country,” he added.
...


https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/06/absolutely-insane-rfk-jr-fact-checked-by-doctors-after-bizarre-fox-news-appearance.html

[koriwhat]

https://media.tenor.com/drO4iAq9KM0AAAAM/no-one-cares-no.gif

[Winehole23]

the Trump mRNA vaccine -- besides saving millions of lives -- appears to help cancer patients


The researchers analysed the medical records of more than 1,000 people with lung cancer (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03153-z) or melanoma (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04337-5). They found that, in people with a certain type of lung cancer, receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was linked to a near doubling in survival time, from 21 months to 37 months. Unvaccinated people with metastatic melanoma survived an average of 27 months; by the time data collection ended, vaccinated people had survived so long that the researchers couldn’t calculate an average survival time. People whose tumours had traits hinting that they were unlikely to respond to checkpoint inhibitors saw the biggest survival boost after vaccination.


This finding is “quite impressive”, says Benoit Van den Eynde, a tumour immunologist at the University of Oxford, UK. “I did not expect the effect to be that significant, and the data are very strong.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03432-7

[Winehole23]

Had Trump been a good-natured man, he could have been a really great president.

Hell, if he was even halfway good he could have been great.

His megadole saved our asses in 2020, and he got us a vaccine lickety-split, so we all could go back to normal in 2021.

But Trump is a hater. He hates people and he hates America.

[Winehole23]

Trump couldn't hide it, and that's why he lost to a 900-year old political mummy

[koriwhat]

Had Trump been a good-natured man, he could have been a really great president.

Hell, if he was even halfway good he could have been great.

His megadole saved our asses in 2020, and he got us a vaccine lickety-split, so we all could go back to normal in 2021.

But Trump is a hater. He hates people and he hates America.

Hyperbole as usual... Pure Bloods, check in! :lol

[Winehole23]

kw with no topical take

[Winehole23]

he just talks about me

[Winehole23]

lol purity of essence


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP. LjVTf-V609OcwSyViG8whwHaEH%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=d70a0f58188c17027749cf47d4e82230a45a704ddb7b58 8522ae39aeb86fb72e&ipo=images

[koriwhat]

kw with no topical take

you just talk about me

[Winehole23]

if you check my posts above, perhaps you can see that I provide a large number of topical handles

fire away!

[koriwhat]

if you check my posts above, perhaps you can see that I provide a large number of topical handles

fire away!

IDGAF in the least

[Winehole23]

obviously, that's why you keep responding

:lol

[koriwhat]

obviously, that's why you keep responding

:lol

I keep responding because, frankly, you're the only one who posts these days beside Brooke and I don't read none of her bullshit whiney pretentious opinions or dipshit yes/no questions.

[Winehole23]

you never answer anything, tbh

[koriwhat]

you never answer anything, tbh

I've actually answered a few of your questions in the last 5 mins. Who the fuck are you trying to kid rn? :lmao

[Winehole23]

you uttered words, but they were mostly skew to what was previously said

[koriwhat]

you uttered words, but they were mostly skew to what was previously said

You're boring, deluded, and more than likely schizo. It's no wonder you're so easily swayed by the marxists. :tu

[Winehole23]

like who?

[Winehole23]

the Trump mRNA vaccine -- besides saving millions of lives -- appears to help cancer patients

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03432-7


Had Trump been a good-natured man, he could have been a really great president.

Hell, if he was even halfway good he could have been great.

His megadole saved our asses in 2020, and he got us a vaccine lickety-split, so we all could go back to normal in 2021.

But Trump is a hater. He hates people and he hates America.


Trump couldn't hide it, and that's why he lost to a 900-year old political mummy in 2020

[SnakeBoy]

"Follow-up experiments in mice show that the vaccines have this apparent life-extending effect not because they protect against COVID-19 but because they rev up the body’s immune system1. "

It's called hormesis... it's nothing new or unique to mrna vaccines

[Winehole23]

the Trump mRNA vaccine -- besides saving millions of lives -- appears to help cancer patients

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03432-7


Had Trump been a good-natured man, he could have been a really great president.

Hell, if he was even halfway good he could have been great.

His megadole saved our asses in 2020, and he got us a vaccine lickety-split, so we all could go back to normal in 2021.

But Trump is a hater. He hates people and he hates America.


Trump couldn't hide it, and that's why he lost to a 900-year old political mummy


"Follow-up experiments in mice show that the vaccines have this apparent life-extending effect not because they protect against COVID-19 but because they rev up the body’s immune system1. "

It's called hormesis... it's nothing new or unique to mrna vaccineswell, COVID vaccines are widely accepted and used, so the benefit is real

[ChumpDumper]

"Follow-up experiments in mice show that the vaccines have this apparent life-extending effect not because they protect against COVID-19 but because they rev up the body’s immune system1. "

It's called hormesis... it's nothing new or unique to mrna vaccines

All the better you guys aren't taking them.

[Winehole23]

do you know why the Trump mRNA vaccine is still widely accepted and used, Snake Boy?

[Winehole23]

(disclosure: I'm a Novavax user 'til the nasal vaccine gets here)

[Winehole23]

(as of early 2025, Novavax seemed to be more durable)

[Winehole23]

well, COVID vaccines are widely accepted and used, so the benefit is realthe need for ongoing vaccination would only tend to amplify the benefit to cancer patients, n'est-ce pas?

[velik_m]

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines can trigger the immune system to recognize and kill cancer, research finds

The COVID-19 mRNA-based vaccines that saved 2.5 million lives globally during the pandemic could help spark the immune system to fight cancer. This is the surprising takeaway of a new study that we and our colleagues published in the journal Nature.

While developing mRNA vaccines for patients with brain tumors in 2016, our team, led by pediatric oncologist Elias Sayour, discovered that mRNA can train immune systems to kill tumors — even if the mRNA is not related to cancer.

Based on this finding, we hypothesized that mRNA vaccines designed to target the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 might also have antitumor effects.

...

https://www.livescience.com/health/cancer/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-can-trigger-the-immune-system-to-recognize-and-kill-cancer-research-finds

[Winehole23]

Vinay Prasad unilaterally declares an association between mRNA vaccines and 10 child deaths, will impose new vaccine requirements, may rethink the annual flu jab and concurrent vaccination

The guy just hates public health


The director of the Food and Drug Administration’s vaccine division said in a memo to agency staff on Friday that a review had found that at least 10 children had died “after and because of” getting a Covid vaccination.

Dr. Vinay Prasad, the director, suggested in the memo that the deaths were related to myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle.

The memo, obtained by The New York Times and not publicly released, did not provide details such as the ages of the children, whether they had any other health problems or how the agency determined the vaccine-death link. Nor did it disclose the maker of the vaccines involved.

“This is a profound revelation,” Dr. Prasad wrote in a memo to staff members. “For the first time, the U.S. F.D.A. will acknowledge that Covid-19 vaccines have killed American children.”

Dr. Prasad declined to be interviewed for this article
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/28/health/fda-children-deaths-covid-vaccines.html?unlocked_article_code=1.408.gE4E.ZzU mBJkNU8Dj&smid=url-share

[Winehole23]

"I remain open to vigorous discussions and debate,” Prasad wrote to his team, adding that staff who did not agree with the core principles of his new approach should submit their resignations”

[Winehole23]

relying on VAERS information all by itself to change policy is pretty radical

[koriwhat]

the need for ongoing vaccination would only tend to amplify the benefit to cancer patients, n'est-ce pas?

Nah bro... Just found out bad news 6 wks ago and on Thanksgiving pertaining to both of my Aunts. Within a 6wk time frame, both my Aunt's have been diagnosed with breast cancer. Breast cancer has never existed in my family on either side and yet the only variable that exists between both of my Aunts is the fact that they got the vaccine for Covid-19. No one knows if that vaccine played a part but it is the only variable to exist between those two and not with all that came before them in my family.

I see more and more instances of this in extended family and friends too. Had an extended family member die of cancer last year at 50 yrs old after being perfectly fine and then one day he wasn't unexpectedly. He too was vaccinated.

I pray for my Aunts and everyone else who might be experiencing the same.

[ChumpDumper]

oh look, another conspiracy theory

[GAustex]

Booster up Pavs
Hell get two

[koriwhat]

Booster up Pavs
Hell get two

I hope she boosters her way 6ft under. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Booster up Pavs
Hell get two

What's your vaccine conspiracy theory?

Try to be a man and explain yourself.

[Winehole23]

COVID vaccines protect against heart attack and stroke


The study, published today in Nature Communications, showed that the incidence of arterial thromboses, such as heart attacks and strokes, was up to 10% lower in the 13 to 24 weeks after the first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Following a second dose, the incidence was up to 27% lower after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine and up to 20% lower after the Pfizer/Biotech vaccine.


The incidence of common venous thrombotic events – mainly pulmonary embolism and lower limb deep venous thrombosis – followed a similar pattern.


Research led by the Universities of Cambridge, Bristol and Edinburgh and enabled by the British Heart Foundation (BHF) Data Science Centre at Health Data Research UK analysed de-identified health records from 46 million adults in England between 8 December 2020 and 23 January 2022. Data scientists compared the incidence of cardiovascular diseases after vaccination with the incidence before or without vaccination, during the first two years of the vaccination programme.
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/incidence-of-heart-attacks-and-strokes-was-lower-after-covid-19-vaccination

[Winehole23]

...while COVID itself appears to increase the incidence of heart disease and thrombotic events


Covid-19 could be a powerful risk factor for heart attacks and strokes for as long as three years after an infection, a large new study suggests.
The study was published Wednesday in the medical journal Atherosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology. It relied on medical records from roughly a quarter of a million people who were enrolled in a large database called the UK Biobank.

(https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/21/health/long-covid-disease-burden)Within this dataset, researchers identified more than 11,000 people who had a positive lab test for Covid-19 documented in their medical records in 2020; nearly 3,000 of them had been hospitalized for their infections. They compared these groups with more than 222,000 others in the same database who didn’t have a history of Covid-19 over the same time frame.

People who caught Covid in 2020, before there were vaccines to blunt the infection, had twice the risk of a major cardiac event like a heart attack or stroke or death for almost three years after their illness, compared with the people who didn’t test positive, the study found.

If a person had been hospitalized for their infection, pointing to a more severe case, the risk of a major heart event in was even greater – more than three times higher – than for people without Covid in their medical records.

What’s more, for people who needed to be hospitalized, Covid appeared to be as potent a risk factor for future heart attacks and strokes as diabetes or peripheral artery disease, or PAD.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/09/health/covid-heart-attack-stroke-risk

[Winehole23]

COVID appears to cause immune deficiency that persists for at least 20 months post infection


ResultsDuring mass infection, T cells, CD4+T cells, CD8+T cells, NK cells, and B cells dropped significantly. Even 20 months post-infection, CD8+ T cells remained 9.9% below baseline. Baseline lymphocyte subsets differed significantly by sex and age. Immune recovery varied by age and sex, with older adults and males showing prolonged lymphopenia. In cardiovascular disease patients, T lymphocytes remained 72.9% below baseline for 20 months post-infection.

ConclusionsOur findings redefine SARS-CoV-2 infection as a condition of long-lasting immune compromise. The sustained subnormal lymphocytes—particularly in cardiovascular disease cohorts—highlight a key immunologic feature of long COVID and underscore the need for personalized care.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971225005090

[SnakeBoy]

...while COVID itself appears to increase the incidence of heart disease and thrombotic events

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/09/health/covid-heart-attack-stroke-risk

Another obviously flawed study, which is even pointed out in the article. There's nothing magical about covid vaccines despite your addiction to them.

[Winehole23]

Another obviously flawed study, which is even pointed out in the article. There's nothing magical about covid vaccines despite your addiction to them.all studies have limitations, I never said vaccines are magical

you're too poisoned to perceive the trend of empirical evidence that vaccines do little harm and a lot of good


A huge new French study (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2842305) in the Journal of the American Medical Association Network deflates those claims and confirms the safety and efficacy of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. The researchers followed 22.7 million vaccinated individuals and 5.9 million unvaccinated individuals for nearly four years. They found not only that vaccinated people have a 74 percent lower risk of death from severe COVID-19, but also that those individuals have a lower risk of death, period. Specifically, people who received the shots have a 25 percent lower risk of all-cause mortality.

https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/q60/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-05-at-2.52.34-PM.pngJAMA Network (Zureik et al., JAMA Network)

As for the turbo-cancer claims, the researchers report that the incidence of tumors among vaccinated adults is 769 per million. For the unvaccinated, the rate is versus 853 per million. In other words, vaccinated adults were about 15 percent less likely to be diagnosed with cancer than those were unvaccinated.

The researchers sought to control for various confounders, such as a healthy-vaccinee effect, where healthier individuals are more likely to opt for vaccination, or a frailty-related bias, where those in poorer health may avoid it. They also note that vaccinated individuals in their study were generally older and tended to have more co-morbidities, such as obesity and chronic illnesses, which would usually be associated with an increased risk of dying. (The different results, they note, might be partially explained by the fact that vaccinated individuals tend to be more socioeconomically advantaged.)

"This study helps to put an end to the misinformation spread about mRNA vaccines," the study's lead author, Mahmoud Zureik, told (https://www.lemonde.fr/en/health/article/2025/12/05/large-scale-study-confirms-covid-19-vaccine-s-safety-and-effectiveness_6748171_14.html) Le Monde. "Providing data on the absence of long-term risks helps strengthen confidence in these vaccines, which will be developed for other viruses and diseases."
https://reason.com/2025/12/05/french-study-on-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-finds-a-drop-in-severe-covid-and-no-increase-in-deaths/

[Winehole23]

if the policy exposes Americans to otherwise avoidable harm and death, Republicans are for it


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:6vwezbhj7wwowu4sbur5npjk/bafkreigegsxeua6senb25obhmsqnmzg3unip2csrcufmfwcl6 m7tluwxkq@jpeg

https://www.statnews.com/2025/12/03/fda-former-commissioners-vaccine-policy/

[SnakeBoy]

Former Dem officials wrote a letter defending the status quo...cool

[Winehole23]

y'all are destroying public health in the US, the status quo ante was better

[ChumpDumper]

Former Dem officials wrote a letter defending the status quo...cool

Do you personally think all those children died because of COVID-19 vaccinations?

Yes or no.

[Winehole23]

Former Dem officials wrote a letter defending the status quo...coolyou guys are the status quo, tbh

[Winehole23]

too bad the Great Barrington Declaration assholes are in charge now


Highlights


•Platform-switching benefits: Switching from CoronaVac to BNT162b2 reduced infection risk by 9–21 % compared to homologous boosting.


•Bivalent vaccine superiority: The Bivalent Omicron BA.4/BA.5 BNT162b2 vaccine provided 30–58 % lower hazard compared to standard mRNA boosters.


•Vaccination sequence matters: Vaccination-first pathways consistently outperformed infection-first pathways.


•Evidence against natural immunity strategies: Robust evidence supports early vaccination policies for future pandemic preparedness.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X25013568?via%3Dihub

[Winehole23]

We conducted a territory-wide observational study of 1,737,475 adults in Hong Kong during the BA.4/5-dominant period (November 2022–January 2023). The Andersen-Gill model was employed to assess infection risks across different vaccination and infection history cohorts, comparing homologous versus heterologous boosting strategies, bivalent versus standard vaccines, and vaccination-first versus infection-first approaches.

[DarrinS]

too bad the Great Barrington Declaration assholes are in charge now


Cry harder. They were right.

Are you still on the wet market theory?

[Winehole23]

Cry harder. They were right.

Are you still on the wet market theory?I'm not doctrinaire

why do you think they were right?

the trend of empirical study seems not to back you up

[Winehole23]

is 1,700,000 people not a robust enough cohort?

[DarrinS]

Where did covid come from, wh?

[DarrinS]

Do you still admire Fauci?

[Blake]

Do you still admire Fauci?

Darrin still doesn't care about the mass deaths because he was ok.

[Winehole23]

Do you still admire Fauci?I don't care about Fauci one way or another. Respect the public service, but admire is way too strong a word.

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11295842#post11295842)
Do you still admire Fauci?why don't you answer your own question and make your own point?

I'm not a mindreader

[DarrinS]

Darrin still doesn't care about the mass deaths because he was ok.

I think bioengineering deadly viruses is a terrible idea