Coronavirus treatments and vaccines thread

[Thread]

Boston Globe email --

Johnson & Johnson’s one-shot vaccine appears to provide more protection against virus variants than the company first reported

Johnson & Johnson’s one-shot COVID-19 vaccine appears to provide more protection against worrisome virus variants than the drug giant initially reported,

according to new trial data released in advance of a Friday advisory panel meeting on whether to recommend the vaccine as the third cleared for emergency use in the US.

Company briefing documents posted on the Food and Drug Administration website Wednesday indicate

the vaccine was 68 percent effective at preventing moderate to severe disease caused by the dominant variant in Brazil and

64 percent effective against the dominant variant in South Africa.




& all it took was for Biden to raise his right hand!

Just shows ta go ya.

[DarrinS]

What are they doing in India?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

That country has a population just under 1.4B people. They should be fucked.

Did they have mass distribution of a cheap and effective medicine that works for prophylaxis and as treatment? (Ivermectin?)


Start at 55:33 to about 60:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeYoXGoh96w

[DarrinS]

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[Winehole23]

First vaccine to fully immunize against malaria builds on pandemic-driven RNA tech (https://academictimes.com/first-vaccine-to-fully-immunize-against-malaria-builds-on-pandemic-driven-rna-tech/)

[pgardn]

First vaccine to fully immunize against malaria builds on pandemic-driven RNA tech (https://academictimes.com/first-vaccine-to-fully-immunize-against-malaria-builds-on-pandemic-driven-rna-tech/)



I thought this would be too tough as diseases caused by Eukaryotic pathogens are very difficult.
Had no idea this was even a thought. :tu:tu

[pgardn]

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This is happening in multiple countries that have not used it as well.

[ChumpDumper]

This is happening in multiple countries that have not used it as well.Yup. And vaccinations started taking off in Mexico around Jan 12.

Way too many moving parts to credit worm medicine alone.

[Winehole23]

I thought this would be too tough as diseases caused by Eukaryotic pathogens are very difficult.
Had no idea this was even a thought. :tu:tusounds too good to be true

[Winehole23]

The reported level of protection against hospitalization and death for all three approved vaccines is amazing.

AIDS vaccine coming soon from J&J?

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[Winehole23]

How the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Works
(https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html)
(https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html)


Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine comes out of decades of research on adenovirus-based vaccines. In July, the first one was approved for general use — a vaccine for Ebola, also made by Johnson & Johnson. The company is also running trials on adenovirus-based vaccines for other diseases, including H.I.V. and Zika. Some other coronavirus vaccines are also based on adenoviruses, such as the one developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html) using a chimpanzee adenovirus.


Adenovirus-based vaccines for Covid-19 are more rugged than mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. DNA is not as fragile as RNA, and the adenovirus’s tough protein coat helps protect the genetic material inside. As a result, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine can be refrigerated for up to three months at 36–46°F (2–8°C).

[Winehole23]

Mr. and Mrs. Trump, like thieves in the night...

[pgardn]

sounds too good to be true

The basic idea: its much easier to make vaccines against things that are not at all like Eukaryotic cells that make up all of the life we know except for bacteria and viruses (if they are considered alive). Bacteria and viruses are much more likely to have a biochemical makeup very different from us (and about everything else) because they come from completely different cell type the prokaryotic cell and the virus. So its easier to present our immune system with a protein that is very different thus wont attack our own cells. Its much more difficult with the Eukaryotic pathogens like malaria because they are the same type of basic cell, the Eukaryotic cell.

Thus it has been very difficult to find a vaccine for the Eukaryote that causes Malaria, the plasmodium genus. There are other things about its life cycle that make it difficult as well. So I was just happy to read that our new technique might give some hope to rid us of the world's #1 killer.

[pgardn]

The reported level of protection against hospitalization and death for all three approved vaccines is amazing.

AIDS vaccine coming soon from J&J?

1366406350058627076

Good stuff.
Thanks.

[Ef-man]

Cosmored the government shill working for site referrals.

Sad.

[pgardn]

Whistleblower: 25% of Residents in German Nursing Home Died After Pfizer Vaccine
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/german-nursing-home-residents-died-pfizer-vaccine/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=c490b1d0-2794-435a-8896-d82a74129051

Spain: Another 9 Care Home Residents Dead And 78 Infected With COVID-19 Days After Receiving Pfizer’s MRNA Jab
https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/spain-9-care-home-residents-dead-and-69-infected-with-covid-19-after-pfizer-vaccine.html

Spain: Second Pfizer Shots Halted After 46 Nursing Home Residents Die After The First Shot
https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/spain-pfizer-shots-halted-after-46-nursing-home-residents-died.html

Spain To Maintain A List Of People Who Refuse COVID-19 Vaccinations
https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/spain-to-maintain-a-list-of-people-who-refuse-covid-19-vaccinations.html

Number of Injuries Reported to CDC After COVID Vaccines Climbs by Nearly 4,000 in One Week
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/injuries-reported-vaers-climbs/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=c490b1d0-2794-435a-8896-d82a74129051

I know at least 30 people who have gotten the vaccine from one company or another and they are all fine and well.

My anecdotal evidence trumps your silliness.

[hater]

Whistleblower: 25% of Residents in German Nursing Home Died After Pfizer Vaccine
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/german-nursing-home-residents-died-pfizer-vaccine/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=c490b1d0-2794-435a-8896-d82a74129051

Spain: Another 9 Care Home Residents Dead And 78 Infected With COVID-19 Days After Receiving Pfizer’s MRNA Jab
https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/spain-9-care-home-residents-dead-and-69-infected-with-covid-19-after-pfizer-vaccine.html

Spain: Second Pfizer Shots Halted After 46 Nursing Home Residents Die After The First Shot
https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/spain-pfizer-shots-halted-after-46-nursing-home-residents-died.html

Spain To Maintain A List Of People Who Refuse COVID-19 Vaccinations
https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/spain-to-maintain-a-list-of-people-who-refuse-covid-19-vaccinations.html

Number of Injuries Reported to CDC After COVID Vaccines Climbs by Nearly 4,000 in One Week
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/injuries-reported-vaers-climbs/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=c490b1d0-2794-435a-8896-d82a74129051

Its really all experimental until a few millions are vaccinated for at least 1 year

[Winehole23]

Cosmored the government shill working for site referrals.

Sad.is that how it works? I was wondering why he keeps reposting from the same two sites.

[Winehole23]

My anecdotal evidence trumps your silliness.all happened in foreign countries, perhaps that's a coincidence.

[CosmicCowboy]

You guys don't want to get this shit even if you survive it. I've had random shortness of breath since the covid and did a CT scan last week...I've got some permanent lung scarring from it...not enough to kill me but enough to be fucking irritating.

[Winehole23]

"get the shot, people"

[CosmicCowboy]

"get the shot, people"

X2

[hater]

You guys don't want to get this shit even if you survive it. I've had random shortness of breath since the covid and did a CT scan last week...I've got some permanent lung scarring from it...not enough to kill me but enough to be fucking irritating.

Do u think covid cut your life short by a few years nig?

So its like diabetes?

[CosmicCowboy]

Do u think covid cut your life short by a few years nig?

So its like diabetes?

I won't know for awhile, but if it leads to COPD I will be pissed.

[boutons_deux]

"get the shot, people"

it's a hoax

it's going to zero, like what 15 people, gone April heat

[pgardn]

"get the shot, people"

I’m waiting for my group to be called.
i’m way down the line so...

DarrenS needs to get his mom in
asap

[ChumpDumper]

I’m waiting for my group to be called.
i’m way down the line so...

DarrenS needs to get his mom in
asapGreg Abbott definitely got his.

[pgardn]

Do u think covid cut your life short by a few years nig?

So its like diabetes?

before he got it I’m thinking he did not have lung scarring and now he’s told he does.
this is a quality of life issue AND will takeoff a number of years if he gets pneumonia once he gets older.

It’s not gonna be good for him if he gets pneumonia right now as well. The dude got his lungs damaged.... get real. He used to ski at altitude and stuff.

[pgardn]

Greg Abbott definitely got his.

If I got Covid he would tell me to walk it off.

[ChumpDumper]

If I got Covid he would tell me to walk it off.It's amazing that to distract from his killing Texans via cutting off their electricity by design, he's going to kill more Texans with a deadly disease.

[SnakeBoy]

You guys don't want to get this shit even if you survive it. I've had random shortness of breath since the covid and did a CT scan last week...I've got some permanent lung scarring from it...not enough to kill me but enough to be fucking irritating.

Good read for you
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/lung-damage-could-be-permanent-for-some-coronavirus-patients-but-new-scans-show-significant-healing-after-12-weeks/ar-BB199saV

tldr start some rehab exercise, start slow

[Ef-man]

You guys don't want to get this shit even if you survive it. I've had random shortness of breath since the covid and did a CT scan last week...I've got some permanent lung scarring from it...not enough to kill me but enough to be fucking irritating.

Cosmored you piece of shit government shill.

Learn from CC, take the damn shot and stop with the covid conspiracies.

[SnakeBoy]

Its really all experimental until a few millions are vaccinated for at least 1 year

Why do you need to wait a year?

[Winehole23]

It's amazing that to distract from his killing Texans via cutting off their electricity by design, he's going to kill more Texans with a deadly disease.The inconvenience to business and the state coffers is reduced, so it nets out on the other side -- if you live long enough to enjoy the other side.

It also helps to be *not poor* and not *nonwhite*. The known disparity of M&M outcomes makes Gov Abbott's consistent policy of lenience the moral equivalent of genocide. It's a very low key, slow motion genocide, and it is tolerated in part because it is known in advance that *some* are better situated to survive than *others*.

The contempt for life and human health has been nothing if not thoroughgoing, it's been a key element of Gov. Abbott's deadly leadership on COVID from the beginning.

[SnakeBoy]

The inconvenience to business and the state coffers is reduced, so it nets out on the other side -- if you live long enough to enjoy the other side.

It also helps to be *not poor* and not *nonwhite*. The known disparity of M&M outcomes makes Gov Abbott's consistent policy of lenience the moral equivalent of genocide. It's a very low key, slow motion genocide, and it is tolerated in part because it is known in advance that *some* are better situated to survive than *others*.

The contempt for life and human health has been nothing if not thoroughgoing, it's been a key element of Gov. Abbott's deadly leadership on COVID from the beginning.

Now do Newsom

[Winehole23]

Now do NewsomI've negged him for the same, plz catch up.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol they never want to acknowledge the abject failure of Texas and Texans.

:lmao "Party of personal responsibility."

[Winehole23]

:lol they never want to acknowledge the abject failure of Texas and Texans.not even to defend it :lol

[Winehole23]

Greg Abbott definitely got his.The existential calculation is somewhat different for the political class, yes.

[hater]

Why do you need to wait a year?

Why not?

There will be shitty vaccines and there will be great vaccines. Ill get the great ones :lol

[pgardn]

If I got Covid he would tell me to walk it off.

*Adjust tie, clears throat*

"tough crowd"

[pgardn]

Why not?

There will be shitty vaccines and there will be great vaccines. Ill get the great ones :lol

So far the shitty vaccines look pretty great.
I would like to vacation in other states.
With the Abutt decree will they let us in?

[DMC]

So far the shitty vaccines look pretty great.
I would like to vacation in other states.
With the Abutt decree will they let us in?

:lol idiot

I've been travelling all over the US since January of last year. No issues.

[weebo]

:lol idiot

I've been travelling all over the US since January of last year. No issues.

SeaWorld touring the country now?

[Winehole23]

:lol idiot

I've been travelling all over the US since January of last year. No issues.

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[hater]

SeaWorld touring the country now?

:lol

[Winehole23]

Vaccines as campaign swag

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[pgardn]

Teachers in Texas might be eligible now.
I’m not totally sure some word going around

I’m going to be eligible when a new vaccination is already being given.
i’m thinking never in this state.

[pgardn]

She works in epidemiology and says it’s effective immediately.

[SnakeBoy]

So far the shitty vaccines look pretty great.


Biggest problem with the vaccines is that they are called vaccines. Should be called medicine and marketed as Covitussin, Coviquil, etc.

Also shots should only be administered while shoving cheese puffs into the persons mouth so they won't notice the shot. Works great on my dogs.

[DarrinS]

My mom has appointment tomorrow for Pfizer shot #1

[hater]

Biggest problem with the vaccines is that they are called vaccines. Should be called medicine and marketed as Covitussin, Coviquil, etc.

Also shots should only be administered while shoving cheese puffs into the persons mouth so they won't notice the shot. Works great on my dogs.

Agreed 100%

They should save the vaccine name for real vaccines

Someone fucked up royally :lol

They didnt even call the flu "vaccine" a vaccine. It was mostly a "shot"

Thats a great name for these imo.

Covid shot :tu

Timmy, Have you gotten your covid shot? Yes I sure did. Cool

[ChumpDumper]

Agreed 100%

They should save the vaccine name for real vaccines

Someone fucked up royally :lol

They didnt even call the flu "vaccine" a vaccine. It was mostly a "shot"

Thats a great name for these imo.

Covid shot :tu

Timmy, Have you gotten your covid shot? Yes I sure did. CoolCDC recommends use of any licensed, age-appropriate influenza vaccine during the 2020-2021 influenza season

lol hater

[hater]

CDC recommends use of any licensed, age-appropriate influenza vaccine during the 2020-2021 influenza season

lol hater

Yeah but it was mostly called a shot by 90% of ppl. Idiot.

A booster would be a nice name too.

Lets go get a covid booster, Jaimie. Lets go brah.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah but it was mostly called a shot by 90% of ppl.

:lmao moving the goalpost

lol hater

[pgardn]

:lol idiot

I've been travelling all over the US since January of last year. No issues.

You been traveling all over the US when the latest decree came yesterday?

fkn old man needs a home...

[pgardn]

My mom has appointment tomorrow for Pfizer shot #1

Yes!

[pgardn]

Biggest problem with the vaccines is that they are called vaccines. Should be called medicine and marketed as Covitussin, Coviquil, etc.

Also shots should only be administered while shoving cheese puffs into the persons mouth so they won't notice the shot. Works great on my dogs.

Or the famous countdown for kids that never comes.

"Okay Im putting some alcohol on your arm and then I will begin a countdown *plunges needle in * that will start at 5, 4... oh what happened, you are finished!" Hater would be waiting for a WWIII assault and... its over.

[hater]

:lmao moving the goalpost

lol hater

I been living in this stupid country for decades.every season I hear a million times abojt the flu shot. Not one single time I heard it referred as flu vaccine :lol

[Winehole23]

I been living in this stupid country for decades.every season I hear a million times abojt the flu shot. Not one single time I heard it referred as flu vaccine :lolvaccine isn't a sell word, shot is.

[pgardn]

I been living in this stupid country for decades.every season I hear a million times abojt the flu shot. Not one single time I heard it referred as flu vaccine :lol

So shot scares you.
As a kid, if a vaccine was given to you via a needle, its a shot.
Sorry but welcome to the US. Polio vaccines were given with a piece of sugar at one time and the person would swallow it.
Therefore it was not called a shot.
Tough things these common terms, "muh nig"...

[hater]

vaccine isn't a sell word, shot is.

:tu

[boutons_deux]

Well, shit

New evidence COVID-19 antibodies, vaccines less effective against variants

Worrisome new coronavirus variants can evade antibodies that neutralize original virus

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...-nec030421.php (https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-03/wuso-nec030421.php)

[DarrinS]

Will Ivermectin become the standard of care for prevention and early treatment?

British group sends recommendation to WHO, NIH, FDA


I've watched the whole video (kind of boring, tbh), but watch from 43:00 to 46:00



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

[Winehole23]

Snake Boy: which flavor did you recommend? Was it the green apple flavor?

[DarrinS]

Snake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7993)Boy: which flavor did you recommend? Was it the green apple flavor?


Why do you hate science?

[Winehole23]

Why do you hate science?Not at all, the pointy end of the stick was aimed at Snake Boy. :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Snake Boy: which flavor did you recommend? Was it the green apple flavor?

Just apple, add cinnamon

[SpursforSix]

My mom has appointment tomorrow for Pfizer shot #1

I’ll let you know if it affects her sex life.

[Winehole23]

Just apple, add cinnamonthanks!

[SnakeBoy]

thanks!

If tractor supply is out get the pour on. Put it between your shoulder blades so you can't lick it off.

[DarrinS]

Summary of the longer video (unfortunate thumbnail :lol)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omn5Djur1t8

[Winehole23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omn5Djur1t8n=80

An effective theraputic that keeps patients out of the hospital would be great. Like the doc in the bit says, there needs to be a more robust study.

[boutons_deux]

Oral COVID treatment yields promising trial data

Pharmaceutical giant Merck and an American laboratory reported promising results Saturday in trials of a drug administered orally to fight COVID-19,

saying it helps reduce patients' viral load.

This drug (https://medicalxpress.com/tags/drug/) caused a significant drop in patients' viral load after five days of treatment with it,

This Phase 2a test—drug trials have three stages before a product can be approved—was carried out among 202 non-hospitalized people with symptoms of COVID-19.

There was no alert in terms of safety, and of four serious adverse events that were reported, none were considered to be related to taking this drug,

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-oral-covid-treatment-yields-trial.amp (https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-oral-covid-treatment-yields-trial.amp)

[DarrinS]

Oral COVID treatment yields promising trial data

Pharmaceutical giant Merck and an American laboratory reported promising results Saturday in trials of a drug administered orally to fight COVID-19,

saying it helps reduce patients' viral load.

This drug (https://medicalxpress.com/tags/drug/) caused a significant drop in patients' viral load after five days of treatment with it,

This Phase 2a test—drug trials have three stages before a product can be approved—was carried out among 202 non-hospitalized people with symptoms of COVID-19.

There was no alert in terms of safety, and of four serious adverse events that were reported, none were considered to be related to taking this drug,

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-oral-covid-treatment-yields-trial.amp (https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-oral-covid-treatment-yields-trial.amp)


Now I see why Merck issued that statement against Ivermectin. They can't make any $$$

[Winehole23]

Now I see why Merck issued that statement against Ivermectin. They can't make any $$$Why do you hate capitalism?

[DarrinS]

Why do you hate capitalism?

I don't. I just understand their motivation. Merck's patent expired in 1996.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin's worm medicine hard-on

[Winehole23]

2020 US life expectancy for African-Americans slipped 2.7 years, for Hispanic folks, 1.9 years. Essential workers are apparently the most expendable too.


Surgical masks and cloth face coverings stop droplet spray but don’t perform as well (http://doi.org/10.1080/02786826.2020.1862409) in preventing exhalation (https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.ppat.1003205) or inhalation of tiny aerosols. They may be fine for a quick trip to the store where shoppers keep six feet apart, but workers who spend many hours in crowded indoor settings, especially settings with inadequate ventilation and jobs that involve being close to other people, need much more protection. And it’s exactly those working conditions that are driving the high rates of Covid-19 among workers in nursing homes, correctional facilities, transportation, food processing, grocery stores and similar jobs involving long hours in poorly ventilated spaces. These jobs are ones in which people of color are over-represented, contributing to elevated risk of Covid-19 disease and death (https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.01.21.21250266) among Blacks, Latinos and other racial and ethnic minorities.

[Winehole23]

I don't. I just understand their motivation. Merck's patent expired in 1996.Just clowning, you used to do that to me.

[ChumpDumper]

2020 US life expectancy for African-Americans slipped 2.7 years, for Hispanic folks, 1.9 years. Essential workers are apparently the most expendable too.

Eyes have been criminally overlooked as entry points for the rona in closer situations.

[Winehole23]

Eyes have been criminally overlooked as entry points for the rona in closer situations.Yep. Hospital workers without face shields are much more likely to be infected/hospitalized. Regular eye glasses seem to provide a bit of protection too -- helps keep fingers out of eyes.

[Winehole23]

Deutche Welle dives into claims that the COVID vaccine kills.

tl;dr

no links found

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-links-found-between-vaccination-and-deaths/a-56458746

[Winehole23]

Cases *appear to be* ticking up in four big states. In a week or so we should be be able to tell whether it's a true upturn or just statistical noise like backfilling.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/covid-cases-variants.png

[Winehole23]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/covid-variants-map.png

The cases identified above are based on a sampling of SARS-CoV-2-positive specimens and do not represent the total number of B.1.1.7, B.1.351, and P.1 lineage cases that may be circulating in the United States and may not match numbers reported by states, territories, tribes, and local officials.In other words, this is kind of a guess. Other countries are probably better at tracking lineages than we are.

[boutons_deux]

Cases *appear to be* ticking up in four big states. In a week or so we should be be able to tell whether it's a true upturn or just statistical noise like backfilling.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/covid-cases-variants.png

... in the context of testing down by 1/3 nationally. Less tests means less confirmed cases.

[Winehole23]

... in the context of testing down by 1/3 nationally. Fewer tests means fewer confirmed cases.Trump used to say something like that. Isn't it more likely testing is caseload driven rather than the other way around?

Or did I misunderstand you?

[DarrinS]

Cases *appear to be* ticking up in four big states. In a week or so we should be be able to tell whether it's a true upturn or just statistical noise like backfilling.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/covid-cases-variants.png



Odd that it's not consistent with this one

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

[Winehole23]

Odd that it's not consistent with this one

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/Not odd at all, a lot of different orgs compile the data. It's hardly unusual for any two sources to vary on the same day. We'll see in a week or so whether it means anything or not.

[Winehole23]

if they all matched exactly, that would be odd.

[Winehole23]

US agrees to purchase another 100 million J&J shots.

Wiggle room for boosters, new outbreaks and vaccine diplomacy, I guess.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-announce-deal-additional-100-million-johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine-n1260408

[boutons_deux]

Trump used to say something like that. Isn't it more likely testing is caseload driven rather than the other way around?

Or did I misunderstand you?

One of trash's ignorant insanities was to stop testing which would mean reduced case detection and in fact the CDC sycophants downplayed testing

[Winehole23]

One of trash's ignorant insanities was to stop testing which would mean reduced case detection and in fact the CDC sycophants downplayed testingso what do you think is up with testing now?

[Winehole23]

"All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up."

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[boutons_deux]

so what do you think is up with testing now?

I suspect people hear "vaccines" and they, and maybe some state/city govts, think testing is no longer needed, so the money, testing sites, effort are in decline.

btw, variant B.1.1.7 is reported to be significantly more mortal than the original, and more transmissible.

[DarrinS]

so what do you think is up with testing now?


Less disease in the community. Makes the most sense.

[Winehole23]

Less disease in the community. Makes the most sense.I think so too. We never ramped up testing to the degree needed for effective contact tracing and quarantines, so it's mainly patient driven.

[DarrinS]

I think so too. We never ramped up testing to the degree needed for effective contact tracing and quarantines, so it's mainly patient driven.


The only large country that has done successful contact tracing is Australia. But, they were fast to close their borders and enforce strict quarantine on people entering their country. Our late efforts to block international travel were called xenophobic by current POTUS.

[Winehole23]

The only large country that has done successful contact tracing is Australia. But, they were fast to close their borders and enforce strict quarantine on people entering their country. If it could be done in one large country it could have been, and in fact was done in others. South Korea and China don't count?

Btw, what's your definition of large an why does it matter? 23 million people live in Taiwan, almost as many as in Australia.

[ChumpDumper]

The only large country that has done successful contact tracing is Australia. But, they were fast to close their borders and enforce strict quarantine on people entering their country. Our late efforts to block international travel were called xenophobic by current POTUS.:lol your ass still hurts

[pgardn]

We badly fd up a lot of stuff early.
But later when we started understanding better, and masks were criticized, and being a MAN meant getting and surviving the disease took hold...
The Orange guy felt it and led the charge.
In addition to giving out a cornucopia of horrible voodoo information.
These missteps will go down in history.

And I will state this yet again:
If this disease was contagious and killed far less people, but was still significant in destroying people's faces like small pox,
so many more people, especially young people, would be fighting for masks and vaccinations. This disease would have been treated completely differently with symptoms less severe, but involving disfiguration of the face. The vain orange guy would have been squealing to protect himself.

Can you see Trump with a malformed face coming out and telling people we have rounded the corner? There would be no "I got it, look at me, Im fine" Too bad people cant see their lungs and innards. Out of sight, out of mind.

[DarrinS]

:lol your ass still hurts

Go play tummy sticks with derp

[DarrinS]

If it could be done in one large country it could have been, and in fact was done in others. South Korea and China don't count?

Btw, what's your definition of large an why does it matter? 23 million people live in Taiwan, almost as many as in Australia.


Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam all did well. Why are you including China? They are the reason the whole world is still suffering from this.

[ChumpDumper]

Go play tummy sticks with derp:lmao you voted for Trump in fucking 2020

[DarrinS]

Starting March 15, those 50 and over can get vaccinated

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/03/10/all-texans-age-50-and-older-can-get-covid-19-vaccine-starting-march-15/

[DarrinS]

:lmao you voted for Trump in fucking 2020

Ok?

[ChumpDumper]

Starting March 15, those 50 and over can get vaccinated

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/03/10/all-texans-age-50-and-older-can-get-covid-19-vaccine-starting-march-15/

Welcome to two hours ago when I told you.

[Winehole23]

Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam all did well. Why are you including China?We were discussing contact tracing. China invested in it massively to good effect. They've also done a great job of protecting their own country after the initial denial and cover-up.

The USA has had its own issues with denial and cover up, it's one of the big reasons we have half a million dead in one year. China was the initial epicenter, but got its shit together. We never did and now we're the main epidemiological threat to the rest of the world.

That's our fault, not China's.

[DarrinS]

We were discussing contact tracing. China invested in it massively to good effect. They've also done a great job of protecting their own country after the initial denial and cover-up.

The USA has had its own issues with denial and cover up, it's one of the big reasons we have half a million dead in one year. China was the initial epicenter, but got its shit together. We never did and now we're the main epidemiological threat to the rest of the world.

That's our fault, not China's.


This is pathetic. They could have squashed this shit.

I'm embarrassed for you that you posted this.

[Winehole23]

This is pathetic. They could have squashed this shit.We didn't squash it either, but somehow a bunch of countries much closer to China did. it's a fact that China has handled the pandemic much better than we did.

Blaming the emergence of a novel pathogen on a single country is blame shifting for our own wretched failure to deal with it, tbh.

[DarrinS]

We didn't squash it either, but somehow a bunch of countries much closer to China did.

China lied to the world. And they welded people in their homes.

But you're critical of OUR response.

[Winehole23]

China lied to the world. And they welded people in their homes.

But you're critical of OUR response.I've criticized their response ITT, you have a short memory.

[DarrinS]

I've criticized their response ITT, you have a short memory.

So brave of you. The Chinese docs who did it are gone.

[Winehole23]

So brave of you. The Chinese docs who did it are gone.Yep, China ain't no Sunday picnic. No illusions here.

But if we're talking about epidemiological competence and effective public health policy, China puts us in the shade. COVID-19 is the proof. It's ok if that embarrasses you, it should.

[ElNono]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwE0cwNXAAQEiyK?format=jpg&name=large

but, but... same amount people as usual dieded!!!

[Winehole23]

but, but... same amount of people ... dieded!!!as 1947, expressed as a percentage of US population.

[Winehole23]

Fauci: Vaccines for Kids as Young as First Graders Could Be Authorized by September (https://www.propublica.org/article/fauci-vaccines-kids)

[ChumpDumper]

China lied to the world. And they welded people in their homes.

But you're critical of OUR response.Yeah, your Trump trusted fucking Red China.

And you voted to keep him.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[boutons_deux]

Yeah, your Trump trusted fucking Red China.

Trash, Repugs, right wing hate media blaming China and WHO is their strategy to deflect blame from Trash's criminal manslaughter and mortal reckless endangerment of gutting USA's pandemic preparedness and then lying about and un-managing the pandemic.

Ignorantly gullible ST RWNJ fall for and defensively promote those lies every time

[Winehole23]

of course the global leader in infection and death will point the finger elsewhere

[hater]

China lied to the world. And they welded people in their homes.

But you're critical of OUR response.

We got buttfucked in the ass because of our incompetence.

Instead of learning this lesson, ameridumbs are just blaming it all on china :lmao

You idiots remind me of Shilllary and blaming everyone but herself :lol

[boutons_deux]

AmeriKKKans are so fucking stupid, ignorant, believe anything fucking thing

Fact-checking vaccine claims in alleged disinformation campaign by Russian intelligence



The U.S. State Department says it has identified four online publications used by Russian intelligence services to spread disinformation about Western COVID-19 vaccines.
Many of these sites have published articles that exaggerate safety concerns about Western vaccines. Some of their claims resemble others we have debunked. ​

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/mar/09/fact-checking-vaccine-claims-alleged-disinformatio/

[DarrinS]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-cuts-transmission-coronavirus-new-real-world-study-n1260542?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

[Winehole23]

Pfizer Inc (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/executives-pfizer-moderna-say-they-re-ramping-vaccine-supplies-n1258587) and BioNTech SE said Wednesday that real-world data from Israel suggests that their Covid-19 (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/coronavirus) vaccine is 94 percent effective in preventing asymptomatic infections (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/asymptomatic-covid-19-cases-may-be-more-common-suspected-n1215481), meaning the vaccine could significantly reduce transmission.

The companies also said the latest analysis of the Israeli data shows the vaccine was 97 percent effective in preventing symptomatic disease, severe disease and death. That is basically in line with the 95 percent efficacy Pfizer and BioNTech reported from the vaccine's late-stage clinical trial in December.

[SnakeBoy]

Bad batch from Astrazeneca causing blood clots. 3 embolisms 1 Death

https://ewnews.com/bad-batch-several-eu-countries-suspend-use-of-a-batch-of-astrazeneca-after-reports-of-blood-clotting

[hater]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-cuts-transmission-coronavirus-new-real-world-study-n1260542?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Called it. Pfizer winning.

[SnakeBoy]

Don't Use Veterinary Drug Ivermectin Against COVID, FDA Warns
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-09/dont-use-veterinary-drug-ivermectin-against-covid-fda-warns

People overdosing sucking on tubes of apple flavored horse dewormer :lol

[Winehole23]

Don't Use Veterinary Drug Ivermectin Against COVID, FDA Warns
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-09/dont-use-veterinary-drug-ivermectin-against-covid-fda-warns

People overdosing sucking on tubes of apple flavored horse dewormer :lolyou called it

[DarrinS]

People that advocate animal medicine for humans: 0

[baseline bum]

People that advocate animal medicine for humans: 0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXeV5cqb_3Y

[Winehole23]

‘Held to ransom’: Pfizer demands governments gamble with state assets to secure vaccine deal (https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2021-02-23/held-to-ransom-pfizer-demands-governments-gamble-with-state-assets-to-secure-vaccine-deal)



Pfizer has been accused of “bullying” Latin American governments in Covid vaccine negotiations and has asked some countries to put up sovereign assets, such as embassy buildings and military bases, as a guarantee against the cost of any future legal cases, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism can reveal.


In the case of one country, demands made by the pharmaceutical giant led to a three-month delay in a vaccine deal being agreed. For Argentina and Brazil, no national deals were agreed at all. Any hold-up in countries receiving vaccines means more people contracting Covid-19 and potentially dying.


Officials from Argentina and the other Latin American country, which cannot be named as it has signed a confidentiality agreement with Pfizer, said the company’s negotiators demanded additional indemnity against any civil claims citizens might file if they experienced adverse effects after being inoculated. In Argentina and Brazil, Pfizer asked for sovereign assets to be put up as collateral for any future legal costs.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2021-02-23/held-to-ransom-pfizer-demands-governments-gamble-with-state-assets-to-secure-vaccine-deal

[Winehole23]

“Some liability protection is warranted, but certainly not for fraud, gross negligence, mismanagement, failure to follow good manufacturing practices,” said Gostin. “Companies have no right to ask for indemnity for these things.”

[boutons_deux]

‘Held to ransom’: Pfizer demands governments gamble with state assets to secure vaccine deal (https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2021-02-23/held-to-ransom-pfizer-demands-governments-gamble-with-state-assets-to-secure-vaccine-deal)


https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2021-02-23/held-to-ransom-pfizer-demands-governments-gamble-with-state-assets-to-secure-vaccine-deal

Phizer must protect and ensure dividends to investors, because "saving human lives" is not in Capitalism's creed.

[Winehole23]

overheard at the supermarket: 130 countries (with 2.5 billion people) have administered zero vaccinations.

1358469481987780622

[Winehole23]

today, back in the USA: 4.6 million doses.

[DarrinS]

overheard at the supermarket: 130 countries (with 2.5 billion people) have administered zero vaccinations.

1358469481987780622


Send them China's vaccine

[hater]

Send them China's vaccine

:tu

Yup

China and russia to the rescue :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Send them China's vaccineWhy not our Trump subsidized vaccines?

Or just let those countries make them?

[hater]

And cuba :tu

[hater]

Iran just finished their vaccine too :tu

Good shit

[boutons_deux]

People get the vaccine then die from covid

Chinese-Made COVID-19 Vaccines Cause International Concern

In January, Chinese vaccine expert Tao Lina (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4095622) ringed the alarm on popular social networking site Weibo about Sinopharm's vaccine being the "most unsafe in the world" with 73 side effects.

Pain around the injection area, headache, high blood pressure, loss of vision, loss of taste and incontinence are among the adverse reactions outlined.

As expected, Tao was silenced by Chinese authorities and his Weibo account was deleted.

A survey conducted by the polling company YouGov showed that people across the world are interested in taking a COVID-19 vaccine but would be more distrustful (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-attitudes-idUSKBN29K16T) of shots made in China or Russia.

Many Chinese question why China, with its own multiple "qualified vaccines in abundant supply" would import foreign made vaccines.

There is speculation that the German vaccines may have been specifically planned to be administered to Chinese officials and their families.

https://www.newsweek.com/chinese-made-covid-19-vaccines-cause-international-concern-opinion-1575531

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

Don't know any of these GOP "anti-vaxxers".

[Winehole23]

Don't know any of these GOP "anti-vaxxers".oh then they must not exist

[DarrinS]

Don't know any of these GOP "anti-vaxxers".


I can't one soon enough, but I'm competing with the 16+ community that is obese. That is a ton of people.

[SnakeBoy]

Don't know any of these GOP "anti-vaxxers".

Yeah but there's a poll

[DarrinS]

Yeah but there's a poll


Who answers polls these days? I don't answer a call that's not in my contacts.

[Winehole23]

Who answers polls these days? I don't answer a call that's not in my contacts.

https://i.gifer.com/1n7.gif

[DarrinS]

https://i.gifer.com/1n7.gif

Looks like our president.

[Winehole23]

:cry Looks like our president. :cry

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/932/237/4df

[DarrinS]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/932/237/4df


Pretty lame

[Winehole23]

Pretty lameIt's gotta hurt that Trump got trounced by a sundowner.

[DarrinS]

It's gotta hurt that Trump got trounced by a sundowner.

Not really.

[Winehole23]

Not really.Just keep crying on the inside.

[DarrinS]

Just keep crying on the inside.

Uh, ok

[Winehole23]

Now is not the time to unclench. Peter Hotez isn't a fear monger.

The extra supply recently contracted for the US makes a lot of sense in this context.

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[ChumpDumper]

Not really.Sorry, you went full conspiretard after the election.

[Dirks_Finale]

Don't know any of these GOP "anti-vaxxers".

I know of a few.

Frustrating talking to them as to why they are actually against it. One lady keeps referencing anecdotes about this person or that person who was healthy but died shortly after being vaccinated.

I don't even recall anyone passing from anaphylaxis as of yet as you are monitored immediately afterwards. These few cases of healthy folks dying a few days after being vaccinated appear to be totally coincidental.

[Winehole23]

satanic avarice and cunning, tbh.

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[Winehole23]

similar dynamic internally


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eux-vXhXYAYQNjo?format=png&name=900x900

[pgardn]

I know of a few.

Frustrating talking to them as to why they are actually against it. One lady keeps referencing anecdotes about this person or that person who was healthy but died shortly after being vaccinated.

I don't even recall anyone passing from anaphylaxis as of yet as you are monitored immediately afterwards. These few cases of healthy folks dying a few days after being vaccinated appear to be totally coincidental.

The left has plenty.
See Washington State and the measles parties.

Its seems to be a amalgamation of the rich housewife who has got to blame something for her child's autism and... god knows what Trumpers get in their heads. This is part of the rich mixture of "I have to blame this on someone or something"
Its the only way some people can handle an unexpected death or some other malady that has no real source to blame.

[pgardn]

satanic avarice and cunning, tbh.

1371595466664636425

Mawket.

That word alone should be grounds for federal prison.


God that is a bad look.
Marketing and Advertising, we have a problem!

[hater]

Why sell 2 jabs when you can sell 3? :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Leprosy Drug Holds Promise As At-Home Treatment For COVID-19

the leprosy drug clofazimine, which is FDA approved and on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines,

exhibits potent antiviral activities against SARS-CoV-2 and

prevents the exaggerated inflammatory response associated with severe COVID-19.

Based on these findings, a Phase 2 study evaluating clofazimine as an at-home treatment for COVID-19 could begin immediately.

“Clofazimine is an ideal candidate for a COVID-19 treatment.

It is safe, affordable, easy to make, taken as a pill and can be made globally available,”

https://scienceblog.com/521712/leprosy-drug-holds-promise-as-at-home-treatment-for-covid-19 (https://scienceblog.com/521712/leprosy-drug-holds-promise-as-at-home-treatment-for-covid-19/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28Science Blog.com%29)


"affordable"? :lol

It's generic, but it will be "Pharma Bro'd" once BigPharma see its $100Bs disappear to a generic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clofazimine

[Winehole23]

~ 5 months to theoretical herd immunity (~75% vaccinated) at the current rate (~2.5M doses/day)

[DarrinS]

~ 5 months to theoretical herd immunity (~75% vaccinated) at the current rate (~2.5M doses/day)

Why do you not factor in the percentage who already had covid?

[Winehole23]

Why do you not factor in the percentage who already had covid?Back of the napkin calculation, and reinfection does happen.

Your back of the napkin correction is welcome, how many people have already had COVID-19 in the US?

[DarrinS]

Back of the napkin calculation, and reinfection does happen.

Your back of the napkin correction is welcome, how many people have already had COVID-19 in the US?


100M

CDC estimate was 83M for the period February–December 2020

[Winehole23]

100M

CDC estimate was 83M for the period February–December 2020So then, when do you estimate *theoretical* herd immunity will be reached?

[DarrinS]

So then, when do you estimate *theoretical* herd immunity will be reached?

End of April? Mid summer?

[Winehole23]

End of April? Mid summer?that's a guess, not a calculation

[DarrinS]

that's a guess, not a calculation

So, you understood the "?"

[Winehole23]

So, you understood the "?"lazy. and I thought you were good at math.

there's a signnificant difference between end of April and "mid summer" if we're talking about a respiratory pandemic that speads exponentially, which we are.

[DarrinS]

lazy. and I thought you were good at math.

there's a signnificant difference between end of April and "mid summer" if we're talking about a respiratory pandemic that speads exponentially, which we are.


You asked me for my estimate. You didn't ask me for a calculation.

I think its sooner than some simplistic projection of vaccination rates that doesn't factor in a large percentage of natural immunity.

[Winehole23]

You asked me for my estimate. You didn't ask me for a calculation.
.
I think its sooner than some simplistic projection of vaccination rates that doesn't factor in a large percentage of natural immunity.Your rep is shit in this thread. You shot your wad proclaiming the end of the pandemic too many times already.

[boutons_deux]

~ 5 months to theoretical herd immunity (~75% vaccinated) at the current rate (~2.5M doses/day)

not with Trash's cult mob, Repugs, military, health care refusing shots

[DarrinS]

Your rep is shit in this thread. You shot your wad proclaiming the end of the pandemic too many times already.

Oh thnap!

Wait and see, I suppose.

[Winehole23]

Oh thnap!

Wait and see, I suppose.There is no wait and see on this, you goofed multiple times.

You called the end of COVID during mid-summer, then during late summer last year. "No more fuel" you said.

You did the same in the fall before the spike, and now you're doing it again.

[ChumpDumper]

End of April? Mid summer?You estimated July 2020 tbh.

[DarrinS]

https://reason.com/2021/03/17/how-far-are-we-from-covid-19-herd-immunity/

[Winehole23]

You estimated July 2020 tbh.Just revised to mid-April 2021

[DarrinS]

There is no wait and see on this, you goofed multiple times.

You called the end of COVID during mid-summer, then during late summer last year. "No more fuel" you said.

You did the same in the fall before the spike, and now you're doing it again.


You estimated July 2020 tbh.


Yeah, I didn't call the end of the epidemic while Texas was at its peak. I made a comment about NY appearing to be near herd immunity, which was obviously wrong.

[DarrinS]

Biden admin to send Astra-Zeneca vaccine to Mexico in exchange for border security

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/biden-mexico-immigration-coronavirus-vaccine/2021/03/18/a63a3426-8791-11eb-8a67-f314e5fcf88d_story.html

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I didn't call the end of the epidemic while Texas was at its peak.Our peak was this January, Darrin.

[DarrinS]

Our peak was this January, Darrin.


Yeah, I didn't call the end of the epidemic while Texas was at its Summer peak. I made a comment about NY appearing to be near herd immunity, which was obviously wrong.


Better?

[ChumpDumper]

You never cared when you got things wrong before. Why start now?

[boutons_deux]

From Quartz email:

"Daydreaming, flatulence, and chapped lips.

Those are just three of the reactions a very small number of people have attributed to the AstraZeneca vaccine,

as Annalisa Merelli reports in this fun piece illustrating the illogical assumptions (https://email-tracking.qz.com/uni/ss/c/u0sCzvfn7U_YuwNMgEMH05FctfgW0usuOiKvcD9uflTx8q_yz8 AWr6MK4_GPadijIcLxm46WDxtDb5X5rEN_D19HDbbHCPve7Clx PZKw0Zrg9N7xKHHgI-ERtSIYUUQVLgbRPxkUYVSOkL_ZOtxfJr0QAhKopiOdR3n62CYU UpW5Ai_ueiheUKx1as5EnfYxaFRhyTmpcbC-IgrMdwAqvU9RwPsTCCxU1Z8QZa0AgyQ/3ad/9binONL2QlmbraHbjnoE6w/h12/qsWgBoeLbT_zp1Wpe6rU8pSOOWV9IoosZWcv5DQd6JM) made about the shot.

Several European countries halted their administration of the vaccine after reports of blood clots, though the number of those who self-reported that response

(1 in 167,000) essentially matches the prevalence of blood clots in the population.

The drug company is diligently tracking all the bizarre “symptoms” experienced by Europeans anyway—

the full list is guaranteed to make you chuckle."

==========================

The most ridiculous self-reported side effects to the AstraZeneca vaccine

https://qz.com/1984717/what-are-astrazenecas-self-reported-side-effects (https://qz.com/1984717/what-are-astrazenecas-self-reported-side-effects/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=daily-brief&utm_content=f5c12f2d-88fe-11eb-a80d-f6b473703b31)

hypothesis: American drug companies trying keep British AZ vaccine to a minimum ($$$$) are financing a misinformation campaign that hypes AZ causing blood clots.

[boutons_deux]

Capitalism sucks, esp for-profit health care

DRUGMAKERS PROMISE INVESTORS THEY’LL SOON HIKE COVID-19 VACCINE PRICES

Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson pledged affordable vaccines — but only as long as there’s a “pandemic.”

Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, and Pfizer — have quietly touted plans to raise prices on coronavirus vaccines in the near future and

to capitalize on the virus’s lasting presence.

Pharmaceutical officials, ... say they expect the virus will linger, morphing from a pandemic into a perennial endemic.

And as Covid-19 mutations continue to spread and booster shots may be required on a regular basis,

leaders from the three companies are enthusiastic about cashing in.

https://theintercept.com/2021/03/18/covid-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna (https://theintercept.com/2021/03/18/covid-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter)

While Capitalism confiscates $Ts from non-Capitalists, the Capitalists propagandize, misinform with the LIE that democratic socialism is the same a collectivist USSR Communism.

[Winehole23]

Thrombosis trigger found for AZ vaccine:

https://m.dw.com/en/astrazeneca-german-team-discovers-thrombosis-trigger/a-56925550

[pgardn]

Europe resurgence.

The Biden administration has greatly improved distribution to in the arm vaccination.
we still need to try and speed up even more. Less affluent communities still being underserved.

[Winehole23]

santizing surfaces and frequent deep cleaning is wasted time and energy


Another lingering concern testifying to the persistent impact of outdated science is that so much of schools’ reopening guidance remains aimed at hygienic measures, surface wipe-downs, and plexiglass barriers, all of which are completely ineffective in limiting what we now know is the primary mode of indoor transmission, airborne aerosols.[xv] (https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/new-cdc-guidelines-to-reopen-schools-could-be-dangerous#_edn15)

[Winehole23]

I would not say uniformly, sitting adjacent to an infected person seems intuitively more dangerous, but I don't think the modifier undermines his broader point about crowding in badly ventilated rooms.



Contrary to the notion that even 3 feet of distancing is sufficient protection, and 6 feet is overkill, the critical safety issue is that students are all uniformly at risk in poorly ventilated rooms no matter where they are or how they distance. With one infected person in an enclosed and poorly ventilated room, the coronavirus permeates the entire space, putting everyone inside at similar risk regardless of where they sit.

[Winehole23]

AZ vaccine provides little protection against B 1.351 variant


Between June 24 and November 9, 2020, we enrolled 2026 HIV-negative adults (median age, 30 years); 1010 and 1011 participants received at least one dose of placebo or vaccine, respectively. Both the pseudovirus and the live-virus neutralization assays showed greater resistance to the B.1.351 variant in serum samples obtained from vaccine recipients than in samples from placebo recipients. In the primary end-point analysis, mild-to-moderate Covid-19 developed in 23 of 717 placebo recipients (3.2%) and in 19 of 750 vaccine recipients (2.5%), for an efficacy of 21.9% (95% confidence interval [CI], −49.9 to 59.8). Among the 42 participants with Covid-19, 39 cases (92.9%) were caused by the B.1.351 variant; vaccine efficacy against this variant, analyzed as a secondary end point, was 10.4% (95% CI, −76.8 to 54.8). The incidence of serious adverse events was balanced between the vaccine and placebo groups.

CONCLUSIONS

A two-dose regimen of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine did not show protection against mild-to-moderate Covid-19 due to the B.1.351 variant. (Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04444674. opens in new tab (http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT04444674); Pan African Clinical Trials Registry number, PACTR202006922165132. opens in new tab (https://pactr.samrc.ac.za/TrialDisplay.aspx?TrialID=12166)).
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2102214

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

Newsweek email

"The COVID-19 vaccine from AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford was

79 percent effective (https://mnr.email.newsweek.com/api/email/[email protected]&ep=eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueXRpbWVzLmNvbS8yMDI xLzAzLzIyL2J1c2luZXNzL2FzdHJhemVuZWNhLWNvdmlkMTktd mFjY2luZS11cy10cmlhbHMuaHRtbD9hY3Rpb249Y2xpY2smbW9 kdWxlPVNwb3RsaWdodCZwZ3R5cGU9SG9tZXBhZ2UiLCJjYW1wY WlnbklkIjoiNjA1ODc1MmMwOWJlZDAwMDEzNDE1OGUyIiwiYWR kaXRpb25hbFRhZ3MiOnsiY3JlYXRpdmVJbmRleCI6MCwic2VuZ GVySW5kZXgiOjAsInN1YmplY3RJbmRleCI6MH19) in preventing coronavirus in a large clinical trial in the U.S.,

offering complete protection against the worst outcomes from the disease

while causing no serious side effects,

according to data released on Monday."

[ChumpDumper]

Currently ~5450th in line for a Moderna appointment.

https://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/DwightYes.gif

[DarrinS]

Currently ~5450th in line for a Moderna appointment.

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I wish our dumb city had a better registration process.

[SnakeBoy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew6RxelXMAIEpvJ?format=jpg&name=900x900

So?

[ChumpDumper]

Moving along OK. Might be able to sign up between 10-11.

[Winehole23]

So?By way of contrast, Jonas Salk said seeking a patent for his polio vaccine would be "like trying to patent the sun" and gave it away for free.

[ChumpDumper]

First Moderna shot tomorrow.

I'll let you know if I die.

[SnakeBoy]

First Moderna shot tomorrow.

I'll let you know if I die.

Let hater know if you get itchy. He's worried about that.

[DarrinS]

First Moderna shot tomorrow.

I'll let you know if I die.


Over 50?

Or fat?

[ChumpDumper]

Over 50?

Or fat?:lol obsessed

[DarrinS]

:lol obsessed

Line jumper :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Line jumper :lolYou're gonna think whatever you want, so why bother telling you?

[DarrinS]

You're gonna think whatever you want, so why bother telling you?


I'm fully eligible based on age, but I think I'll wait another month so more vulnerable people can get it, including you chubby dudes. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I'm fully eligible based on age, but I think I'll wait another month so more vulnerable people can get it, including you chubby dudes. :lol:lmao obsessive projection

ST Trumpers need to constantly reassure themselves.

[Adam Lambert]

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[hater]

Let hater know if you get itchy. He's worried about that.

The more human guinea pigs the better tbqh

Thanks all

[DarrinS]

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Wow. Group 1C got a whole two weeks.

Maybe you guys were smart to jump in front of granny. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Wow. Group 1C got a whole two weeks.

Maybe you guys were smart to jump in front of granny. :lolMaybe you're stupid and no one jumped any line.

[DarrinS]

Maybe you're stupid and no one jumped any line.

Essential workers that spend all day on ST. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Essential workers that spend all day on ST. :lolThe only one who said he jumped the line was Snakeboy and you're fine with that.

[Adam Lambert]

I jumped in front of other under-50 year olds in Stamford Texas who didn't call fast enough for an appointment, my conscience is clear.

Y'all have fun in the lines!

[Spurtacular]

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Thrill up your leg, Sadbert?

[Spurtacular]

I'm fully eligible based on age, but I think I'll wait another month so more vulnerable people can get it, including you chubby dudes. :lol

Don't play hero ball, Karrins. You could dieded.

[Winehole23]

https://i.imgur.com/AqfiqYK.gif

[SnakeBoy]

Wow. Group 1C got a whole two weeks.


They basically decided boomers first, okay now the boomers chubby kids.

[ElNono]

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My father in law is over 70 years old, lives in the RGV, and still can't get an appointment for his first dose...

[SnakeBoy]

Putin receives Covid-19 jab, won't reveal which Russian-made vaccine he is taking
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/name-of-vaccine-russias-vladimir-putin-to-take-will-be-a-secret-says-kremlin


Probably the modernalov

[DarrinS]

My father in law is over 70 years old, lives in the RGV, and still can't get an appointment for his first dose...

Does RGV have short supply?

[ElNono]

Does RGV have short supply?

Looks like it, lots of old folks (winter texans and what not) as well. Been tracking the Texas site, CVS and HEB, but nothing yet. I suppose it's going to get better soon.

[ChumpDumper]

My father in law is over 70 years old, lives in the RGV, and still can't get an appointment for his first dose...

That sucks. Offhand I don't think there would be anything stopping him from getting it up here through Austin Public Health if he's willing and able. Made the appointment after an hour and a half wait last night and got the first Moderna shot today. Had dates open a week out so he could plan a trip. Pretty sure they release the appointments every Monday but could verify.

Uncle Joe is probably going to have us flooded with vaccines in the next few weeks.

[DarrinS]

Looks like it, lots of old folks (winter texans and what not) as well. Been tracking the Texas site, CVS and HEB, but nothing yet. I suppose it's going to get better soon.

Working on a python script to automate the HEB site. I'll send you a copy when I get it working.

[spurraider21]

some counties in VA have finally moved into Phase 1C where i'd be eligible, but not mine yet. good to know there's finally some movement though. all of the state is expected to hit 1C by mid april

[ChumpDumper]

My father in law is over 70 years old, lives in the RGV, and still can't get an appointment for his first dose...Kleberg County has already opened up to anyone over 18 so maybe a trip to Kingsville?

[Winehole23]

Kleberg County has already opened up to anyone over 18 so maybe a trip to Kingsville?Toward the beginning of my process, I briefly considered trips to HEBs in Temple and Falfurrias.

[ChumpDumper]

Toward the beginning of my process, I briefly considered trips to HEBs in Temple and Falfurrias.I've heard radio stories with vulnerable Dallasites flying to Amarillo.

Hat tip to APH; the online registration and walk-in clinic at the Delco Center were pleasantly smooth.

[ElNono]

Kleberg County has already opened up to anyone over 18 so maybe a trip to Kingsville?

Thanks, that's kind of far for him. The issue in Hidalgo county is that they only appear to alert people about pre-registration events on the same day they're happening and mostly on facebook, which is a challenge for old people.

I suspect it's because doses are limited, and they want to avoid building a crowd, but it's just terrible.

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks, that's kind of far for him. The issue in Hidalgo county is that they only appear to alert people about pre-registration events on the same day they're happening and mostly on facebook, which is a challenge for old people.

I suspect it's because doses are limited, and they want to avoid building a crowd, but it's just terrible.Apparently they just started an online registration system today.

https://www.hidalgocounty.us/DocumentCenter/View/44857/Hidalgo-County-announces-rollout-of-online-registration-system-for-COVID-19

Might be full now but it's something.

[ElNono]

Apparently they just started an online registration system today.

https://www.hidalgocounty.us/DocumentCenter/View/44857/Hidalgo-County-announces-rollout-of-online-registration-system-for-COVID-19

Might be full now but it's something.

thanks

[boutons_deux]

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[DarrinS]

Took my mom this morning for 2nd dose Pfizer. So many obvious line jumpers there. Shameful

[SnakeBoy]

Took my mom this morning for 2nd dose Pfizer. So many obvious line jumpers there. Shameful

Cali opening up to 50+ April 1st. Opening up to everyone April 15th. Two weeks for the 2nd most vulnerable population seems to be the thing. I'm glad I'm a chubby 18 year old.

[Trill Clinton]

I got my 2nd vaccine yesterday:claw

[DarrinS]

If a slot opens up at an HEB within 10 miles, I will be automatically scheduled.

Learn to code.

[ChumpDumper]

If a slot opens up at an HEB within 10 miles, I will be automatically scheduled.

Learn to code.I already got a first dose before you. My second dose will be automatically scheduled.

Learn to not be a cunt.

[DarrinS]

I already got a first dose before you. My second dose will be automatically scheduled.



You


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[baseline bum]

If a slot opens up at an HEB within 10 miles, I will be automatically scheduled.

Learn to code.

LOL I did that shit to get into CS classes back when everyone was trying to get into them. You could probably make a few bucks writing one for people in the tech forum trying to get PS5s. :lol

[DarrinS]

LOL I did that shit to get into CS classes back when everyone was trying to get into them. You could probably make a few bucks writing one for people in the tech forum trying to get PS5s. :lol


The only thing that sucks is that whenever they make design changes to their site, I have to change my script. This has already happened once.


The current site asks you for zip code and distance of 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, or 200 miles (lol). Page automatically updates periodically to show new available appointments. If one is found within your selected distance, a new tab opens for completing the appointment. Its pretty nice design actually. I've had my script running for hours on 10 mile distance. No luck yet.

[Winehole23]

Darrin taunting the vaccinated, such a weird flex.

[DarrinS]

Darrin taunting the vaccinated, such a weird flex.

Shaming line jumpers. It is rampant.

Vaccine providers can't ask you about your "pre-existing conditions". I saw numerous healthy looking 20-30 year olds getting shots today.

[DMC]

LOL I did that shit to get into CS classes back when everyone was trying to get into them. You could probably make a few bucks writing one for people in the tech forum trying to get PS5s. :lol

shh :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Shaming line jumpers. It is rampant.

Vaccine providers can't ask you about your "pre-existing conditions". I saw numerous healthy looking 20-30 year olds getting shots today.

Young chubs get upset when people in their 50's cut in front of them

[DarrinS]

Young chubs get upset when people in their 50's cut in front of them


People I saw today weren't fat, for the most part. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

You


https://media.makeameme.org/created/i-have-a-5b2a03.jpg

Nope, just smarter than you, cunt.

[baseline bum]

People I saw today weren't fat, for the most part. :lol

You had to take your mom out of town to get her vaccinated?

[Winehole23]

Shaming line jumpers. It is rampant.

Vaccine providers can't ask you about your "pre-existing conditions". I saw numerous healthy looking 20-30 year olds getting shots today.The more better the more better.

I agree prioritization according to rationalized risk assessment were preferable, sadly, that is not the case in this best of all possible worlds.