2014 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[the chronic]

Top OT Cameron Robinson commits to Alabama over LSU. Saban is just unstoppable.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/9634290/cameron-robinson-commits-alabama-crimson-tide

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying Texas is making moves with a committed recruit that they had previously expressed intrest in.

Super vague report but something to keep in mind for the next couple of days.

[the chronic]

you have access to all these QBs that are kicking ass, yet somehow David Ash is that starter and Creep McCoy is the backup.

It's painfully retarded

somehow even with all the QB misses we have had we manage to beat you ever year. hasn't tech only beat us once in last 10 tries? makes the retarded comment a bit ironic.

[Blake]

somehow even with all the QB misses we have had we manage to beat you ever year. hasn't tech only beat us once in last 10 tries? makes the retarded comment a bit ironic.

Tech is irrelevant here no double meaning.

UT is loaded at every position but one. If UT had a decent QB they would have been in national title talk for the last couple of years and the next foreseeable few.

And after the QB, subtract the Mack brown coddling out of the equation and UT = Alabama.

[ThePop]

Tech is irrelevant here no double meaning.

UT is loaded at every position but one. If UT had a decent QB they would have been in national title talk for the last couple of years and the next foreseeable few.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.

[Vito Corleone]

That's not possible considering Swoopes was still in high school when Wood transfered. And our staffs judgement of quarterback play is fubar.

Swoops was an early enrollee and was in the spring camp with wood, and he had the better showing of the two.

[Vito Corleone]

Tech is irrelevant here no double meaning.

UT is loaded at every position but one. If UT had a decent QB they would have been in national title talk for the last couple of years and the next foreseeable few.

And after the QB, subtract the Mack brown coddling out of the equation and UT = Alabama.

Who are these QBs you refer to?

We missed on GG, but so did everyone else, he was the #2 ranked QB in his class and had offers from everyone. A miss is a miss but he was supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

You already referred to Connor Wood, but we didn't miss on him, he came, he competed and he didn't make the cut here. I'm glad for him that he is doing well in Colorado, but this isn't a Mack thing or a Greg Davis thing, we had two OC and neither had enough faith in him to give him the offense.

We did miss on Manziel, we picked Woods over him, no denying it, that was a huge mistake.

I would also say it was a big mistake to take Case McCoy, seeing as how his father has been acting while he has been here.

Still you can't say that we missed out on guys like Andrew Luck when he eliminated us pretty quickly in the process.

As of right now I'm pretty happy with our QB situation. Ash is improving, he is light years ahead of where he was as a freshmen and a Soph. He still has all of this year and next to finish his career. Behind him we have Swoops and Heard, both are likely game changers when they are ready to take over.

[rkell87]

somehow even with all the QB misses we have had we manage to beat you ever year. hasn't tech only beat us once in last 10 tries? makes the retarded comment a bit ironic.
to fair that one win was worth 10

[ATX_Horn]

Swoops was an early enrollee and was in the spring camp with wood, and he had the better showing of the two.

Connor Wood transferred to Colorado in 2011...Swoopes is a true Frosh in 2013 and never shared reps with Wood at Texas.

[ThePop]

Holy shit people Connor Brewer =/= Connor Wood

[Vito Corleone]

Connor Wood transferred to Colorado in 2011...Swoopes is a true Frosh in 2013 and never shared reps with Wood at Texas.

LOL I have totally mixed those two up. Feel free to pile on :)

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying Texas is making moves with a committed recruit that they had previously expressed intrest in.

Super vague report but something to keep in mind for the next couple of days.

More on this...24/7 saying that this prospect has de-committed and is likely to flip to Texas soon.

A "very talented" player according to them.

[Blake]

Who are these QBs you refer to?

The two Heisman QBs from Baylor and A&M aside, where would you rank Ash nationally in QB rankings as of today.

[ThePop]

More on this...24/7 saying that this prospect has de-committed and is likely to flip to Texas soon.

A "very talented" player according to them.

I'm gonna be pissed if its some 3 star DB. Or Joseph Paul.

[ThePop]

The two Heisman QBs from Baylor and A&M aside, where would you rank Ash nationally in QB rankings as of today.

Right now, top 20 for sure.

[texbound]

I'm hoping its either Dalvin Cook or Arrion Springs. Just hoping.

[rkell87]

More on this...24/7 saying that this prospect has de-committed and is likely to flip to Texas soon.

A "very talented" player according to them.

elijah hood? I can dream right lol

[the chronic]

The two Heisman QBs from Baylor and A&M aside, where would you rank Ash nationally in QB rankings as of today.


I'm in minority of Texas fans - I don't think Ash is or will be more than an average D1 starter level, but I hope I'm proven wrong this season. Watching all the games last year teams always stack 8 against the run to force the throw and facing those fronts Ash has not been able to exploit that like an above average QB should. As a true freshman I understand the struggles, but I just didn't see the progress to prove otherwise last year (KU, TCU, OU). Until he can make teams pay for selling out to stopping the run I will not be convinced otherwise.

[the chronic]

More on this...24/7 saying that this prospect has de-committed and is likely to flip to Texas soon.

A "very talented" player according to them.


Supposedly it's a 4-star defensive player. With all the talk about Nick Harvey and his father loving Texas would love to see him flip.

[Blake]

Right now, top 20 for sure.

Yeah, I'd agree there are potentially 19 current better QBs that UT passed on.

Maybe more.

[TFloss32]

Supposedly it's a 4-star defensive player. With all the talk about Nick Harvey and his father loving Texas would love to see him flip.

Lots of smoke that it's DT Zaycoven Henderson of Longview.

I wouldn't say he's "very talented" but he'd be the best DT in the '14 class should he commit to UT.

[TFloss32]

Lots of smoke that it's DT Zaycoven Henderson of Longview.

I wouldn't say he's "very talented" but he'd be the best DT in the '14 class should he commit to UT.

24/7 just confirmed it's Henderson. He's supposed to attend the Ole Miss game next weekend.

[Needs More Bourbon]

Thanks, TFloss. I hope we can land him.

And will the rest of you please STFU and let the 2014 Recruiting Thread be the 2014 recruiting thread?

[Blake]

Thanks, TFloss. I hope we can land him.

And will the rest of you please STFU and let the 2014 Recruiting Thread be the 2014 recruiting thread?

See that usually makes people not want to stfu

[the chronic]

Thanks, TFloss. I hope we can land him.

And will the rest of you please STFU and let the 2014 Recruiting Thread be the 2014 recruiting thread?


you do realize what a forum is, right dipshit? :lol

[benefactor]

you do realize what a forum is, right faggot? :lol
fify

[pgardn]

I'm in minority of Texas fans - I don't think Ash is or will be more than an average D1 starter level, but I hope I'm proven wrong this season. Watching all the games last year teams always stack 8 against the run to force the throw and facing those fronts Ash has not been able to exploit that like an above average QB should. As a true freshman I understand the struggles, but I just didn't see the progress to prove otherwise last year (KU, TCU, OU). Until he can make teams pay for selling out to stopping the run I will not be convinced otherwise.

I don't think you are.
TCU was particularly awful as he was supposed to be ready by then.
His #'s looked great in the NMSU game, but he made some awful decisions yet again.
The Big 12 is open imo. Don't think Ash is gonna get us there.
Hope I'm wrong.

[ThePop]

I was not aware we only played 3 games last season.

[Vito Corleone]

Anyone that doesn't see his progress is either too gun shy from the last two years or they don't know squat about football. He was god awful his freshmen year, last year you saw great improvement. Without him we lose our bowl game. This year he has already done something he didn't do very well last year, that is hit the deep ball.

Now I will be the first to say you cannot judge Ash based on beating a team like NMSU as they are worse than our practice squad, but his accuracy is worth noting as he was awful last year in that area.

One other area you need to consider, in the games where Ash looked pretty bad, those were also the games where our oline looked extremely bad. Especially Oklahoma and TCU.

[the chronic]

Anyone that doesn't see his progress is either too gun shy from the last two years or they don't know squat about football. He was god awful his freshmen year, last year you saw great improvement. Without him we lose our bowl game. This year he has already done something he didn't do very well last year, that is hit the deep ball.

Now I will be the first to say you cannot judge Ash based on beating a team like NMSU as they are worse than our practice squad, but his accuracy is worth noting as he was awful last year in that area.

One other area you need to consider, in the games where Ash looked pretty bad, those were also the games where our oline looked extremely bad. Especially Oklahoma and TCU.


Regarding not knowing squat about football - I played D1 ball, currently coach at clinics (why I sometimes get inside info at recruiting camps), and I've had three other close family members that have played or are being recruited by BCS teams.

Great improvement over "God awful" doesn't mean he's likely to be a great player.

We can all agree the O-Line performed poorly in many games - but the skill positions are loaded making it easy to make a team suffer for overcommitting to the run (as we faced 8 man fronts non stop in every game last season). Is improvement is going 8/16, 63 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs against Kansas and not getting any big plays when your team is loaded with 5* talent against 2* talent? It's a team sport, but an improving player does not do this against such inferior talent.

[the chronic]

Some interesting game notes:

* Overstreet should be getting a package of plays against BYU (with wrinkle that he will be threat to throw the ball).
* Major is apparently targeting getting Daje 20 plays for this weekend.


Also heard Jamal Adams just keeps talking about wanting to play in SEC, and on top of that made some comments that playing away from home is a non-issue. Looking more and more like Florida I'm afraid.

[elbamba]

Does anyone know what the problem is with Malcom Brown(RB)? He had a pretty good reception but it looks like he is running like a sissy. Is he injured again?

[Vito Corleone]

Regarding not knowing squat about football - I played D1 ball, currently coach at clinics (why I sometimes get inside info at recruiting camps), and I've had three other close family members that have played or are being recruited by BCS teams.

Great improvement over "God awful" doesn't mean he's likely to be a great player.

We can all agree the O-Line performed poorly in many games - but the skill positions are loaded making it easy to make a team suffer for overcommitting to the run (as we faced 8 man fronts non stop in every game last season). Is improvement is going 8/16, 63 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs against Kansas and not getting any big plays when your team is loaded with 5* talent against 2* talent? It's a team sport, but an improving player does not do this against such inferior talent.

I never said he would be great, I do believe he has not hit his ceiling yet. I knew fairly quickly when GG hit his ceiling, same with Chris Simms, same with Colt. With Ash I know as of right now he has not hit his ceiling. I don't discount the Kansas game, but at the same time, that to me stands out as an outlier game more than a step back. Sort of like the game Vince Young had in 2004 against Tech where Chance Mock had to replace him and pull the game out. After that game many called for him to be replaced but the very next game became on of his best.

As for our skill positions, I would agree about the running back position but not the receiver position. Last year our receivers were about as inconsistent as they come. Our best receiver, Mike Davis, is best known for dropping passes, it's pretty obvious that Jaxon Shipley is not Jordan, and I blame the coaches for misusing Goodwin, so I wouldn't be so quick to say our receivers are a loaded position. Now this year looks to be different, but still too early to tell.

I still believe if you were to give Ash Manziel's oline, you would have seen huge strides in his passing. It must be nice having 3 1st round NFL draft picks blocking for you. If we can get some good pass blocking and hit a few long balls you will see the defense back off a bit and huge holes open up for our running game. If they don't, then I look for Ash to have a great year passing the ball and making lots of really big plays.

[Vito Corleone]

Some interesting game notes:

* Overstreet should be getting a package of plays against BYU (with wrinkle that he will be threat to throw the ball).
* Major is apparently targeting getting Daje 20 plays for this weekend.


Also heard Jamal Adams just keeps talking about wanting to play in SEC, and on top of that made some comments that playing away from home is a non-issue. Looking more and more like Florida I'm afraid.

Isn't Adams related to one of the Florida coaches?

Good to hear about Daje, he is a game changer, especially against BYU, they don't do well in space as they are so slow getting to the ball. He better be ready, because what they lack in foot speed, they will make up for with hard hitting.

Glad to also hear that Overstreet is getting his own package, I love this kid's attitude and the fact that he has earned this playing time.

[TFloss32]

Check out OL Desmond Harrison from the New Mexico State game. Top of the screen:

https://vine.co/v/h5LXmXb5U7x

[the chronic]

Isn't Adams related to one of the Florida coaches?

WR coach Joker Phillips is his godfather. Jamal also has said recently that Florida is also recruiting him as hard as anybody, so he is a priority for them.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Four-star Houston Lamar S John Bonney has committed to Texas, per @skhanjr. He's commit No. 24 es.pn/UqTO1Z

[ThePop]

QB Jerrod Heard
RB Donald Catalon
RB/ATH Kevin Shorter
RB D'Onta Foreman
WR Lorenzo Joe
WR Armanti Foreman
WR Garrett Gray
WR Dorian Leonard
WR Emanuel Porter
WR Roderick Bernard
OL Terrell Cuney
TE John Thomas- May not qualify
DE Derrick Roberson
DE Sione Teuhema
DT Trey LMFAO
DT Courtney Garnett - May not qualify
DT Jake McMillon
LB Otaro Alaka
LB Cameron Hampton
LB Andrew Beck
DB John Bonney
DB Jermaine Roberts
DB Jason Hall
P Corbin Daly


24 commits


Guys left:
DB Jamal Adams
DB Nick Watkins
DB John Plattenburg - Not offered yet
DE Solomon Thomas
LB Edwin Freeman
DT Zaycovan Henderson


This class could reach 29 if the two guys qualify and we somehow get the remaining 5. Plus there are usually 1 or 2 guys we find late like Montrel Meander or Bryce Cottrell; maybe not this year.

[Vito Corleone]

QB Jerrod Heard
RB Donald Catalon
RB/ATH Kevin Shorter
RB D'Onta Foreman
WR Lorenzo Joe
WR Armanti Foreman
WR Garrett Gray
WR Dorian Leonard
WR Emanuel Porter
WR Roderick Bernard
OL Terrell Cuney
TE John Thomas- May not qualify
DE Derrick Roberson
DE Sione Teuhema
DT Trey LMFAO
DT Courtney Garnett - May not qualify
DT Jake McMillon
LB Otaro Alaka
LB Cameron Hampton
LB Andrew Beck
DB John Bonney
DB Jermaine Roberts
DB Jason Hall
P Corbin Daly


24 commits


Guys left:
DB Jamal Adams
DB Nick Watkins
DB John Plattenburg - Not offered yet
DE Solomon Thomas
LB Edwin Freeman
DT Zaycovan Henderson


This class could reach 29 if the two guys qualify and we somehow get the remaining 5. Plus there are usually 1 or 2 guys we find late like Montrel Meander or Bryce Cottrell; maybe not this year.

If we can end this class with Solomon, Henderson and Watkins, I would be extremely happy. Not our best class but not a bad class at all.

[TFloss32]

Four-star Houston Lamar S John Bonney has committed to Texas, per @skhanjr. He's commit No. 24 es.pn/UqTO1Z

Didn't see that one going Texas' way. Good news.

[Hook Em 88]

Great matchup I'll be attending in Aledo Friday night when Johnathan Grays's former high school team of Bearcats takes on Jarrett Stidham's current team in the Stephenville Yellow Jackets. As many of you may already know Stidham's one of the highest rated QB's for 2015 with offers from Texas, A&M, Tech, Baylor, Tennessee and Kentucky. He's currently rated 155th overall in the ESPN Jr. 300. Another name to know is that of Jess Anders who is a '15 RB that I believe was a backup to Gray as a freshman. Anders had a good season last year where he rushed for over 1,000 yards and scored 15 TD's. Currently reports no offers that I'm aware of but strongly believe he'll be much more highly recruited as the season goes on. This game will be the epitome of Texas High School Football.

[Bloeddyr10]

I'm not a paying memeber of InsideTexas, so I think this is public information.
Here's a transcript of a call/interview with Eric Nahlin and La Mirada High School (Cal.) head coach Mike Moschetti regarding '14 TE Tyler Luatua and '15 QB Kevin Dillman.

Me: What’s the latest on Texas and Luatua. He plays two positions of need.
Moschetti: Well I know he got letters last week from the whole coaching staff…
Me: Good, heard anything about a potential visit?
Moschetti: Nothing set up, he likes Texas though.
Me: What about Dillman (Kevin, the 2015 Swedish QB with Ash like physical tools)?
Moschetti: Haven’t heard anything.
[two hour lull in the exchange (we facetime)]
Me: Texas is interested in Dillman, they just want to see more.
Moschetti: I’d have no problem with Dillman visiting if an offer was given or on the way. He got hurt the second series of our first game, tore a ligament in his Toe but played the whole game and struggled. But he’s a warrior (C’mon, coach, he’s a Viking), starting tomorrow. His toe is swollen and black and blue.
Me: Man that type of injury lingers, hard to step, plus he’s mobile so that removes that part of his game.
Moschetti: Yeah, he couldn’t push off of his right foot. Luatuawas out with a hamstring injury, he was begging me to play. It was my decision. Our tackle that’s committed to Cal also got hurt and he’s out this week.
Me: Damn dude, you need to place Dallis Todd (2014 WR committed to OU) in bubble wrap.

[TFloss32]

Great matchup I'll be attending in Aledo Friday night when Johnathan Grays's former high school team of Bearcats takes on Jarrett Stidham's current team in the Stephenville Yellow Jackets. As many of you may already know Stidham's one of the highest rated QB's for 2015 with offers from Texas, A&M, Tech, Baylor, Tennessee and Kentucky. He's currently rated 155th overall in the ESPN Jr. 300. Another name to know is that of Jess Anders who is a '15 RB that I believe was a backup to Gray as a freshman. Anders had a good season last year where he rushed for over 1,000 yards and scored 15 TD's. Currently reports no offers that I'm aware of but strongly believe he'll be much more highly recruited as the season goes on. This game will be the epitome of Texas High School Football.

Welcome to the board.

Can't wait to see Stidham's junior film.

[TFloss32]

Update on DT Zaycoven Henderson from 24/7...it's looking like he'll take an official visit to UT for the K-State game on September 21st. He originally wanted to visit for Ole Miss since that's the next home game, but Longview has a game that day.

[TFloss32]

From yesterday:

Zay-Coven Henderson ‏@lobo5540
Just Got Off The Phone With The The The University Of Texas #⃣Bevo #⃣Hookem

[TFloss32]

2015 S Justin Dunning went down with a knee injury last night. Not sure what the diagnosis is yet:

@JD3ThaTruth
I cant believe this. My worst nightmare came true. But thank you everyone for the prayers imma be ok.. just leave it to God

[TFloss32]

2015 S Justin Dunning went down with a knee injury last night. Not sure what the diagnosis is yet:

@JD3ThaTruth
I cant believe this. My worst nightmare came true. But thank you everyone for the prayers imma be ok.. just leave it to God

Just read it's a torn ACL.

[DMX7]

Bonney is 3-star on Rivals.

[ThePop]

Bonney is 3-star on Rivals.

4 star composite

[Hook Em 88]

Two of the greater names in Texas High School Football in tonight's Aledo- Stephenville matchup: Mookie(y) Carlisle at Safety for Stephenville and Taco Anderson at Wide Receiver for Aledo.

[TFloss32]

Video of Texas doing their walk-through in BYU's stadium earlier today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5TkbhZZyzc

[DMX7]

4 star composite

His rating doesn't matter of course. He looks like he can play.

[ThePop]

I agree, but when mentioning stars, 247's composite rankings is the way to go. I trust that more than only one companies rankings.

[The Reckoning]

pretty cool this thread is almost on google's first page with Texas Longhorn Recruiting 2014

[TFloss32]

Loved this sign from College Gameday:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m55/tex5781/IMAG0562_zps16b437bc.jpg

[benefactor]

:lol

[jeebus]

:lol
You should watch lolutsa get raped tbh.

[benefactor]

You should watch lolutsa get raped tbh.
Not showing it in my area or I would. I have the whole FOX regional channel package and the TCU game is on most of them.

[jeebus]

Not showing it in my area or I would. I have the whole FOX regional channel package and the TCU game is on most of them.
Should be on Fox Sports 1. I don't have cable but I'm streaming it off there.

[benefactor]

Loved this sign from College Gameday:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m55/tex5781/IMAG0562_zps16b437bc.jpg
Lots of great ones here:

http://deadspin.com/my-gfs-tits-4-tickets-notre-dame-vs-michigan-gamed-1269002630

[benefactor]

Should be on Fox Sports 1. I don't have cable but I'm streaming it off there.
Yeah...they told me I had to move up a package to get Fox Sports 1. Told them to fuck off. The only one I get is Fox Sports 2 and the Fox regional channels.

[jeebus]

Yeah...they told me I had to move up a package to get Fox Sports 1. Told them to fuck off. The only one I get is Fox Sports 2 and the Fox regional channels.
That sucks. lolutsa is about to score against OSU unless they choke. I'm sure half the fatasses in the arena will die if that happens.

[benefactor]

That sucks. lolutsa is about to score against OSU unless they choke. I'm sure half the fatasses in the arena will die if that happens.
Okie St. is on pace to drop 70 and damn near 500 passing yards on them. :lol Is their defense really that bad?

[jeebus]

Okie St. is on pace to drop 70 and damn near 500 passing yards on them. :lol Is their defense really that bad?
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

yes. yes it is.

this is my first time watching lolutsa "play" football. I use that term loosely because they looked below average on one drive and like dumpster full of used condoms on all the others. their defense can't defend for shit; they'd probably be more useful if they all just bent over and spread their ass cheeks to willingly accept what's coming to them. the offense...lmao. the QB Soosa or whatever his name is, can't do anything except stand on the field and suck dick. the rest of the offense deserves to be shipped back to campus and continue taking their mexican engineering classes.

[TFloss32]

OK State about to get exposed:

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-football-sports-illustrated-report-expected-to-reveal-improprieties-in-cowboys-program/article/3880554/?page=2

[TFloss32]

Deadspin with more details on the Vanderbilt rape case, potential cover-up:

http://deadspin.com/disturbing-allegations-emerge-in-vanderbilt-rape-case-1269706271?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebo ok&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[the chronic]

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z166/shinyfish/chron/BTkJtkgCYAAtuxi_zps84b7a7ef.jpg (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/shinyfish/media/chron/BTkJtkgCYAAtuxi_zps84b7a7ef.jpg.html)

[Bloeddyr10]

Apparently '15 ATH/RB Chris Warren wasn't the only one who received a lot of letters from Texas this week. '15 DE/LB Keisean Lucier-South from Lutheran High (CA.) received 68 letters on friday.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTgk8DZCMAEwTpj.jpg

[TFloss32]

Update on QB David Ash...it was originally reported that he had a shoulder injury but he's now being evaluated for a head issue.

May be seeing Case next week for Ole Miss.

[Bloeddyr10]

Didn't know where to put it, but OrangeBloods' Taylor Gaspar tweeted this a few hours ago:

"When asked if Manny Diaz will be coaching next week, Mack Brown said "I have to watch the game tape." #Longhorns (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Longhorns&src=hash)"

Maybe we will see Greg Robinson as DC against Ole Miss? Hopefully, this is a sign of change. That's needed!

[pgardn]

Update on QB David Ash...it was originally reported that he had a shoulder injury but he's now being evaluated for a head issue.

May be seeing Case next week for Ole Miss.

Oh good Christ.
I will watch and bleed from my eyes. (Guess this makes me an authentic TCU fan)

Thanks for the great info on recruiting and such

[pgardn]

Didn't know where to put it, but OrangeBloods' Taylor Gaspar tweeted this a few hours ago:

"When asked if Manny Diaz will be coaching next week, Mack Brown said "I have to watch the game tape." #Longhorns (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Longhorns&src=hash)"

Maybe we will see Greg Robinson as DC against Ole Miss? Hopefully, this is a sign of change. That's needed!

Changes may need to dive deeper than this.

[leemajors]

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2013/9/8/4706488/the-smo-your-sunday-morning-optimist


Applewhite also decided to shit the bed last night. His play-calling had shades of Greg Davis combined with a level of ineptitude you wouldn't expect from the "future of Texas football." He made a lot of questionable decisions that ended up hurting the Longhorns. Literally. On the first drive, Applewhite decided to use Daje Johnson as the power back on third and short with a between the tackles. Not only did he fail to get the first down, he also left the game with an apparent ankle injury. Applewhite doubled down on stupid decisions later in the game by giving Jalen Overstreet his first real college carry on a big fourth and short. Overstreet lost three yards. So what happened? Did Applewhite seriously think these were good decisions? Was he worried Malcolm Brown would get hurt again? Did Joe Bergeron call him a ginger? You'd think Applewhite would let the designated power running back get the bulk of the carries in, you know, power back situations.

[TFloss32]

Paul Finebaum ‏@finebaum (https://twitter.com/finebaum)14h (https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/376534304723316736)
Perhaps, it's early to pile on Mack Brown, but a reliable source tells me Nick Saban will be visiting in Texas by as early as this Friday.

[bluetrumpet]

Realistically...what are the odds?

[TFloss32]

Realistically...what are the odds?

Finebaum was just trolling. I posted it to see what the reaction would be. He's talking about Saban being in Texas for the A&M game.

[TFloss32]

Here's a look at the post-game press conferences for those that didn't see it or care to see.

No joke, Mack and Diaz looked like they were on the verge of tears.

https://vimeo.com/74035996

[rjv]

Lots of great ones here:

http://deadspin.com/my-gfs-tits-4-tickets-notre-dame-vs-michigan-gamed-1269002630 love it !

[rjv]

Here's a look at the post-game press conferences for those that didn't see it or care to see.

No joke, Mack and Diaz looked like they were on the verge of tears.

https://vimeo.com/74035996
that's pretty much the reaction to expect when you just gave up over 500 yards rushing to BYU. (with a supposedly experienced defense)

[Blake]

Update on QB David Ash...it was originally reported that he had a shoulder injury but he's now being evaluated for a head issue.

May be seeing Case next week for Ole Miss.

the horns play calling was pissing me off.

you have a 6 star running back in Gray and you're running keepers with a slow sorry QB. i was honestly waiting for him to come off limping.

I've never, ever seen a coaching staff do this little with so much.

[Blake]

Here's a look at the post-game press conferences for those that didn't see it or care to see.

No joke, Mack and Diaz looked like they were on the verge of tears.

https://vimeo.com/74035996

Diaz should have been fired after the West Virginia game last year

[ColinB]

I hate the way the Longhorns use Gray.

And what the hell did Malcolm Brown do? He is the best back on this team.

[Bloeddyr10]

Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownOB (https://twitter.com/ChipBrownOB)6m (https://twitter.com/ChipBrownOB/status/376802912141205506)
http://Orangebloods.com (http://t.co/TuILYGfSJV) has learned Mack Brown fired Manny Diaz as defensive coordinator, one day after Texas gave up 550 yds rushing to BYU.

[Bloeddyr10]

According to OrangeBloods, Greg Robinson will take over his job.

[benefactor]

Thank you lord.

[Sisk]

Didn't even wait until Monday

[DMX7]

The clown was just utterly clueless. I think it will at least motivate the players to step up.

[TFloss32]

Diaz relieved of duties; Robinson named defensive coordinator

Manny Diaz has been relieved of his duties as Texas defensive coordinator, while former UT co-defensive coordinator Greg Robinson has been named to the position.

Austin -- Manny Diaz has been relieved of his duties as Texas defensive coordinator, and former UT co-defensive coordinator Greg Robinson has been named to the position, head coach Mack Brown announced Sunday. Diaz will be reassigned to a position within the athletics department.

"Our performance on defense last night was unacceptable, and we need to change that," Brown said. "Greg will be here tonight and get with the staff and players to start preparing for Ole Miss. He will be running our defense immediately. We're very fortunate that Greg has been around, watched all of our practice video and has a good scouting report moving forward. His familiarity with the staff and players should make for a smooth transition. He knows this place, did a terrific job in leading our defense before, and I'm excited to have him back on the field. We're back at it and working hard to beat Ole Miss this weekend."

A veteran of 36 years of coaching who has served as a defensive coordinator on two Super Bowl winning teams, and the Longhorns' 2004 Rose Bowl Championship squad, Robinson began a stint as a football analyst with Texas in July.

"This is a tough deal for everyone involved, but I love The University of Texas, and Coach Brown has been wonderful to me," Robinson said. "I'll do anything I can to help him, so when he called, I told him I'd be there today. I know the staff, have a lot of respect for them and am excited for the challenge moving forward.

"I've been around the team a lot, watched all of their film and have been self scouting and scouting opponents since I came on board in July. Because of Longhorn Network, I've also been able to see these guys for two to three years and am very familiar with the personnel."

He most recently served in coaching as the defensive coordinator at Michigan for two seasons (2009-10) after spending four years as the head coach at Syracuse (2005-08).

Robinson was Texas' co-defensive coordinator with Duane Akina, along with being linebackers coach, for the 2004 season, which culminated with an 11-1 record as the Longhorns won their first BCS Bowl and Rose Bowl Championship with a victory over Michigan. That season, Texas held its opponents to 320.1 yards (23rd NCAA) and 17.9 points per game (18th NCAA), while ranking 16th in rushing defense (107.4 ypg).

"I need to get with the staff, work with them to get a plan in place and hit the ground running," Robinson said. "I think very highly of the defensive coaches I'm working with - Duane (Akina), Oscar (Giles) and Bo (Davis) - so it's critical for me to get with them and figure out what specifically we need to do moving forward. Having coached here, I do know the ins and outs and having the stability with the rest of the staff will be very beneficial."

Prior to Texas, Robinson spent 10 of his 14 years coaching in the NFL as a defensive coordinator with the Kansas City Chiefs (2001-03), Denver Broncos (1995-2000) and New York Jets (1994). He was the Jets' defensive line coach for four seasons (1990-93) prior to his appointment as defensive coordinator.

Robinson was the Broncos' defensive coordinator during the organization's back-to-back Super Bowl titles in 1997 and 1998. His teams qualified for the playoffs in seven of his 14 seasons in professional football.

Before his NFL career, Robinson spent eight years with the UCLA Bruins, coaching the defensive line for seven seasons (1982-88) and serving as offensive coordinator in 1989. Robinson also had collegiate stints at N.C. State (1980-81), Cal State Fullerton (1977-79) and the University of the Pacific (1975-76).

[TFloss32]

This report saying Diaz will be re-assigned within the athletic department:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9651381/texas-longhorns-reassign-defensive-coordinator-manny-diaz

[djohn2oo8]

Thank you lord.
Mack is still there, now if he gets canned at the end of the season...

[TFloss32]

Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch
Ironic that MS State defeated Greg Robinson's defense 52-14 in Gator Bowl. That Bulldogs' defense was coached by..... Yes, Manny Diaz.

[djohn2oo8]

Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch
Ironic that MS State defeated Greg Robinson's defense 52-14 in Gator Bowl. That Bulldogs' defense was coached by..... Yes, Manny Diaz.

So once this backfires, is it guaranteed Mack is out?

[elbamba]

I think the SEC coaches trolled Mack Brown. If I recall, after Texas lost WM to Florida, Brown called some contacts in the SEC to improve his defense. All the sources said Diaz was the man. Boy did that back fire.

[TFloss32]

Pat Forde ‏@YahooForde
There are half dozen fan bases, college and pro, who wanted Greg Robinson fired when he was with their program. Now he's the solution at UT?

[Biggems]

Applewhite is destroying this offense with the playcalling. We have some flat out stud running backs, and we are not using them properly. Also, when the defense is playing off, why not just slant them to death?.....not Applewhite.

[DMX7]

Pat Forde ‏@YahooForde
There are half dozen fan bases, college and pro, who wanted Greg Robinson fired when he was with their program. Now he's the solution at UT?

I don't know if they view him as the solution, but they just have to try something different at this point. It's obviously a desperation move, but Robinson at least knows the team and did an ok job his last time here.

[pgardn]

Robinson stating that they have plans to improve worries me.

Its basics first. You can game plan all day on defense, if your kids have no clue how to tackle, it does not matter. The angles they take, never wrapping up, not knowing how to get off a block... It is fundamentals first.

Thats how serious this situation is. You are trying to teach algebra to kids that can't add or subtract.

For Gods sake take a big step back... And Start OVER.

Now on offense can we address the concept of blocking...

HS coaches at almost any level have got to be appalled at what they are seeing.

[DMX7]

You can teach fundamentals though. It's not going to happen overnight, but at least they can improve as the season goes on and maybe salvage a couple of wins that otherwise would have been equally humiliating for Texas as the BYU game was.

[pgardn]

You can teach fundamentals though. It's not going to happen overnight, but at least they can improve as the season goes on and maybe salvage a couple of wins that otherwise would have been equally humiliating for Texas as the BYU game was.

No argument with this.

Please tell Robinson and Applewhite.

[DesignatedT]

Preliminary list of visitors for A&M-Bama game this weekend for those interested:


2014

Hebron S Jamal Adams
Edna Karr (LA) WR Speedy Noil
Edna Karr (LA) DT Gerald Willis
Desert Mountain (AZ) QB Kyle Allen
Springdale (AR) DT Josh Frazier
East Central C.C. OL Avery Gennessy
Garden City C.C. OL Dontavious Blair
Liberty Eylau WR Davion Hall (possible)
Skyline DB Cedric Collins
North Forney DB Armani Watts
Olathe (KS) OL Braden Smith
Arlington Martin DE Myles Garrett
Arlington Bowie LB Edwin Freeman
Jenks (OK) S Steven Parker (possible)
Chandler (AZ) DE Qualen Cunningham
North Shore LB Zach Whitley

2015
Ennis DE James Lockhart
Gladewater DT Daylon Mack (Possible)
Allen QB Kyler Murray
West Orange-Stark S Deionte Thompson
Warren Easton (LA) LB Arthur McGininis
Poteet LB Malik Jefferson
Skyline LB Anthony Wheeler
Splendora RB Jay Bradford
Whitehouse S Justin Dunning
Calgary Baptist (LA) DT TD Moton
Cy-Ridge WR Kemah Siverand
Plano West RB Soso Jamabo

2016
Manvel S Deontay Anderson
PA Memorial RB Kameron Martin

[The Reckoning]

Pat Forde ‏@YahooForde
There are half dozen fan bases, college and pro, who wanted Greg Robinson fired when he was with their program. Now he's the solution at UT?


mack daddy appeasing his fat cats, imo. he doesn't give a shit about winning. he's more focused on repaying old favors that netted him his multi mil salary. robinson is probably dodd's golf partner.

[Vito Corleone]

I'm hoping we give Mack enough rope to hang himself.

[TFloss32]

Depth chart is up for Ole Miss:

http://texassports.com/sports/2013/7/27/FB_0727133029.aspx?path=football

[TFloss32]

Week 3 television schedule. Tech/TCU is the Thursday night game this week:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/3

[TFloss32]

Updated rankings. No surprise but Texas falls out of the Top 25:

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

[TFloss32]

OU QB Trevor Knight out for a few weeks. I'm sure he'll be more than ready for UT in October:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9654088/oklahoma-sooners-qb-trevor-knight-1-2-weeks-blake-bell-start

[Blake]

Not an official list but this is what's out there at the moment:

Junior Day #2
LB Kenny Young, John Curtis LA
CB Jermaine Roberts, New Orleans LA
WR Malache Dupre, John Curtis LA
WR Cameron Batson, Milwood OK
WR Armanti Foreman, Texas City TX
CB Nick Harey, Ft Bend Trais TX
CB Darrion Johnson, Brenham TX
QB Darius Lee-Campbell, Spring TX
QB Jeremy Jones, S.A. East Central TX
LB Josh Mabin, Klein Oak TX
LB Otaro Alaka, Cy-Falls TX
LB Hoza Scott, La Porte TX
OL Connor Mayes, Van Alstyne TX
OL Austin Schlottmanm Brenham TX
OL Najee Toran, North Shore TX
OL Braylon Hyder, Houston Lamar TX
OL Evan Brown, Southlake Carroll TX
DT DeShawn Washington, Nederland TX
DE Jarrett Johnson, Seven Lakes TX
ATH Armani Watts, North Forney TX
TE Garrett Gray, Marble Falls TX
2015 OT Garrett Thomas, Many LA


Appreciate it. Keep us posted on who all shows up.

DesignatedT, keep up the good work in this longhorn thread. :tu

[TFloss32]

For that don't know yet, QB David Ash will be evaluated through the week due to his head injury at BYU and RB Daje Johnson is out.

[The Reckoning]

i say put in swoopes and start giving him reps

[rkell87]

i say put in swoopes and start giving him reps
exactly, don't wait until case throws three ints, just give it to swoopes and if he plays as well as ash ever has just let him stay in after ash comes back, it's time to change some things and put in the higher ceiling guys instead of the higher floor guys

[ThePop]

Why is a&m still recruiting Darion Johnson?

[TFloss32]

Article from Barking Carnival on what Greg Robinson may be able to do for Texas:

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/9/9/4711112/can-greg-robinson-succeed-as-longhorn-defensive-coordinator-texas-football

[The Reckoning]

Article from Barking Carnival on what Greg Robinson may be able to do for Texas:

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/9/9/4711112/can-greg-robinson-succeed-as-longhorn-defensive-coordinator-texas-football


the same ol' same ol'?

[the chronic]

Just heard SI expose on Oklahoma State apparently alleges Larry Porter paid players during his time there.

[TFloss32]

Just heard SI expose on Oklahoma State apparently alleges Larry Porter paid players during his time there.

I still don't know why Mack made that hire knowing his reputation there and at LSU. Desperate times, I guess.

[pgardn]

Article from Barking Carnival on what Greg Robinson may be able to do for Texas:

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/9/9/4711112/can-greg-robinson-succeed-as-longhorn-defensive-coordinator-texas-football

Robinson can't fix bad fundamentals overnight


The crux of the deepest problems imo...

[Bloeddyr10]

Just heard SI expose on Oklahoma State apparently alleges Larry Porter paid players during his time there.
Max Olsons twitter:
SI accusing Texas' Larry Porter of paying OSU players in 2002-04. Porter says accusations "absolutely not true. None of that ever happened"

[TFloss32]

Hadn't seen this site before, but pretty cool as it changes weekly. Mack climbed to #2 very quickly after BYU:

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

[TheMex]

So Gruden is getting thrown out a lot for the next HC position from some "insiders."

[lolwat]

So Gruden is getting thrown out a lot for the next HC position from some "insiders."

Do. Not. Want.

[pgardn]

So Gruden is getting thrown out a lot for the next HC position from some "insiders."

Does anyone actual understand what Gruden is saying?

At one moment he over simplifies: "This guy is here to play football, he is a football player" ok...I figured this.

And then ultra complex: " This is the best example I have seen of the joker underplaying the tango flare by optioning to his L-back". wtf...?

Would he actually speak to kids like this?

[Bloeddyr10]

First video of Greg Robinson at practice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqcXlDahGvg&feature=youtu.be

Twice the age of Diaz, but seems a lot more energetic, even without cleats on.

[rkell87]

so...any concern about losing guys due to BYU? I know we have a few kids going to the ole miss game and if it looks like it did last week it won't be good.

[pgardn]

so...any concern about losing guys due to BYU? I know we have a few kids going to the ole miss game and if it looks like it did last week it won't be good.

Or maybe it's so bad they think can step immediately in and start.
But probably not.

[Vito Corleone]

so...any concern about losing guys due to BYU? I know we have a few kids going to the ole miss game and if it looks like it did last week it won't be good.

The only guys I'm worried about losing are the guys wearing the uniform right now.

[TFloss32]

Five SEC players receive improper benefits:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html

[TFloss32]

http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/flukertweet.jpg

[TFloss32]

According to ESPN, DT Zaycoven Henderson has picked up his Texas offer.

[TFloss32]

Barking Carnival saying QB David Ash and RB Daje Johnson are out for Saturday's game. I agree with Scipio here that Applewhite is lucky that all of the attention was on Diaz Saturday night because his playcalling was not good.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/9/11/4720236/david-ash-and-daje-johnson-will-not-play-against-ole-miss-rebels

Inside Texas added that Ash's head will be fine but he could have a lingering issue with his collarbone and the AC joint at the top of his shoulder.

[lolwat]

http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/flukertweet.jpg This is how a college graduate writes?

[Vito Corleone]

This is how a college graduate writes?

This is how Nick Saban could be coming to Texas. :downspin:

[Phillip]

Do. Not. Want.

I would MUCH prefer him over Mack Brown. At least there will be no discipline issues on the field. Good tackling and blocking fundamentals are certain to come. And dude is a machine when it comes to developing QBs. I'd say its worth a shot if it gets Mack out of the head coach position.

[symple19]

I would MUCH prefer him over Mack Brown. At least there will be no discipline issues on the field. Good tackling and blocking fundamentals are certain to come. And dude is a machine when it comes to developing QBs. I'd say its worth a shot if it gets Mack out of the head coach position.

I think Gruden would be a fantastic college coach. His name is bandied about every time a big program comes open...None bigger than Texas.

Besides fundamentals, he would be a fucking boss on the recruiting trail. Not only could he continue to lock down top talent in Texas, but could go into Cali/Ohio/Pennsylvania/Georgia/Florida and stand toe to toe with any school out there

Not sure he wants to leave the box, though, but his personality seems well suited to running an entire show.

[lolwat]

I would MUCH prefer him over Mack Brown. At least there will be no discipline issues on the field. Good tackling and blocking fundamentals are certain to come. And dude is a machine when it comes to developing QBs. I'd say its worth a shot if it gets Mack out of the head coach position.

Gruden hasn't coached at all in 5 years and hasn't been in the college ranks since 1991, where he was a WR coach at Pitt.

Edit: But yes, he would be an upgrade over Mack Brown. Then again, a second grader who likes to eat paste would also be an upgrade.

[TheMex]

Five star on campus according to 247, DE Solomon Thomas.

[DMX7]

This is how a college graduate writes?

It is if you graduated from Alabama. Last in the nation in literacy for a reason.

[Phillip]

Gruden hasn't coached at all in 5 years and hasn't been in the college ranks since 1991, where he was a WR coach at Pitt.

Edit: But yes, he would be an upgrade over Mack Brown. Then again, a second grader who likes to eat paste would also be an upgrade.

Gruden pretty much singlehandedly turned the Raiders from yearly crap into a yearly super bowl contender (who went back to yearly crap after he left), then went to Tampa and won a superbowl. He turned Rich Gannon into an MVP, coached up Brett Favre who won 3 MVPs, and somehow made Brad Johnson look like a very solid QB that won a superbowl. Everything he has had his hands in has always gone well. I think he would do just fine as the coach of Texas.

And any upgrade to Mack Brown means that this team will immediately be winning Big 12 titles left and right. Texas has so much talent every year its ridiculous, but always somehow ends up just short. I don't see Gruden letting that go to waste.

[ThePop]

Recruits these days don't even know who Gruden is

[Hook Em 88]

Can anyone confirm that Solomon Thomas was in fact on campus? Find it odd that none of the 24/7 or ESPN outlets on twitter didn't mention it.

[TFloss32]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUDT9omCQAAF2mM.jpg:large

[Sisk]

Saw that. No words

[TFloss32]

Saw that. No words

Graphics from 2009.

[Phillip]

Recruits these days don't even know who Gruden is

I'm sure most recruits watch MNF. But the fact that they get to play for a guy who coached up Brett Favre and led one of the worst franchises in the NFL to a Superbowl victory will be a much better selling point than going to play for... Mack Brown. lol

[TFloss32]

It's been talked about since the BYU game, but OrangeBloods saying DeLoss Dodds will step down at the end of the year.

This is a good sign that Mack won't be here for 2014 and the new AD/coaching search is in full swing.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying 2015 WR Tyron Johnson of New Orleans, LA has been offered and Bo Davis visited his school recently:

http://247sports.com/Player/Tyron-Johnson-25472

[TFloss32]

List of attendees for the Ole Miss game, per 24/7. Everyone else will be in College Station:

2014
QB, Jerrod Heard, Denton Guyer
RB, Donald Catalon, Aldine Eisenhower
RB, Dalvin Cook, Central (Miami, FL)
RB, D'Onta Foreman, Texas City
WR, Armanti Foreman, Texas City
WR, Garrett Gray, Marble Falls
WR, Lorenzo Joe, Abilene Cooper
WR, Emanuel Porter, Dallas Lincoln
DE, Solomon Thomas, Coppell
LB, Andrew Beck, Plant (Tampa, FL)
LB, Dylan Douglass, Canyon

2015
DT, Tevin Boone, Cleburne

2016
WR, Reggie Hemphill, Manvel

[Bloeddyr10]

It's been talked about since the BYU game, but OrangeBloods saying DeLoss Dodds will step down at the end of the year.

This is a good sign that Mack won't be here for 2014 and the new AD/coaching search is in full swing.

Early rumors said that Bob Bowlsby was on a shortlist for the next AD. Bowlsby son, Kyle Bowlsby, says that Bob Bowlsby wouldn't take the Texas job. Not sure if the person who claims to be the son, actually is the son. But it sure looks like it.

[Vito Corleone]

Bowlsby is the only guy right now that I would want

[Michael Jordan.]

Between the president and the HC. Mack not being fired obviously but they are formulating a plan for stepping down. He won't be back next year but nothing will be announced until December 8th at the earliest. Wants to finish this year strong for the kids. He has apparently been very emotional this week. Wants the rest of this season to be about the kids.

Bowlsby is the top target. More going on around behind the scenes in the Big 12. OU, KSU, KU and OSU all think he's too close to Texas and not aggressive enough in expansion. Wouldn't be upset if he left for Texas. Texas will make a strong push for Saban, but it will come down to 5 guys after that (right now the list is):

Shaw
Fitzgerald
Strong
Gruden
Franklin

Gary Patterson is not a candidate. Urban Myer is not a candidate. Pete Carrol is not a candidate. Chris Peterson is not a candidate.


"we have to get someone in here that can turn this thing around in a hurry. The concern with Gruden is how long he's been out of coaching. He's still only 50 but that is a concern as well as no college experience. But the interest is there on both sides. If Bowlsby is the guy, he's going to have a little fight on his hands because most people view Shaw as the third guy and the feed back we've got is that he may not be legitimately interested. I personally don't think he's going to leave Stanford unless it's for the NFL. The feeling on Chad Morris is that he might be a little 'rough around the edges for Texas'. But he's a rising star in college football. The list is very fluid right now. Several guys could make the list by mid-season. Many of the decision makers are concerned about having the right offense for Texas. Going to be an interesting couple of months. "

[lolwat]

I'm sure most recruits watch MNF. But the fact that they get to play for a guy who coached up Brett Favre and led one of the worst franchises in the NFL to a Superbowl victory will be a much better selling point than going to play for... Mack Brown. lol

When did he coach up Brett Favre? The 1 year he was an offensive assistant or the 2 years he was a WR coach? And that Tampa Bay team was built by Tony Dungy. Oh, and that very same team went 12-20 over the next 2 seasons.

He did do well in Oakland, but let's not pretend like he turned them in to some sort of a powerhouse.

And just for the record, I've wanted Mack Brown gone since 5-7 so don't misconstrue my arguments against Gruden as a desire to keep Mack Brown at Texas.

[DMX7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUDT9omCQAAF2mM.jpg:large

Haha, let's be honest here -- that's exactly the matchup ESPN would want if we weren't sucking so hard.

[rkell87]

sooo....we lost recruits tonight, for sure, right?

[Bloeddyr10]

Heard rumors that LB/S Edwin Freeman named A&M leaders after last night?

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Willie Lyles is going IN on Texas via twitter. @williwlyles

[DMX7]

There are much bigger issues with this program than recruiting right now. You could bring it a class of 15 5* players and they would fuck it up. We have two 5* runningbacks and can't run the ball.

[ThePop]

Recruiting is the least of my concerns

[ColinB]

Why are we concerned? MACK SAYS WE WILL STILL WIN THE BIG 12.

[Vito Corleone]

Not sure if it's true or not, but there are a couple of threads on Orangebloods with a few more details regarding the upcoming changes.

The jest of it is that Dodds is retiring on 12/31/13 and Mack will be replaced, if he doesn't voluntarily step down.

The wheels are in motion for some major changes.

[Bloeddyr10]

No surprise, but it looks like Texas' chances with S Jamal Adams are slipping. He wants a program that wins and have a stable coaching staff. Texas has neither right now.

[lebomb]

Chris Peterson could do wonders for Texas.

[DesignatedT]

No surprise, but it looks like Texas' chances with S Jamal Adams are slipping. He wants a program that wins and have a stable coaching staff. Texas has neither right now.

Sadly I don't even think A&M has much of a chance here. It's Florida all the way IMO.

[DMX7]

MNF
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz174/ericg320/ericg320023/gruden_zps7935a460.png
It has begun...

[Bloeddyr10]

DB Steven Parker haven't anything official yet and he wants to keep things a secret. But says that Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Michigan and Ohio State are among the schools high on his list. He intends to visit Ohio State and Michigan in January, but nothing official yet.

[rjv]

given the current state of affairs, this thread has lost some of its luster. (it's still a great recruiting thread of course)

[yavozerb]

given the current state of affairs, this thread has lost some of its luster. (it's still a great recruiting thread of course)

Why not finally start that ATM thread then....:rolleyes

[rjv]

Why not finally start that ATM thread then....:rolleyes
in a roundabout way, this may already be that thread

[lolwat]

Chris Peterson could do wonders for Texas.

Just like Dirk Koetter (26-10) would do wonders at Arizona State? Or how Dan Hawkins (53-11) would do wonders at Colorado?

No thanks. Do. Not. Want.

[DMX7]

given the current state of affairs, this thread has lost some of its luster. (it's still a great recruiting thread of course)

Luster? It should be shut down. Recruiting doesn't even matter any more. Mack could have a class of 25 5* players and suck.

[leemajors]

Swoopes may play Saturday:

http://www.burntorangenation.com/football/2013/9/18/4745658/mack-brown-texas-longhorns-kansas-state-tyrone-swoopes

[DMX7]

SI: The State of Texas Football under Mack Brown

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130919/texas-longhorns-mack-brown-walkthrough/?sct=cf_t11_a0

The national media is only getting started eviscerating Mack Brown.

[Kermit]

Swoopes may play Saturday:

http://www.burntorangenation.com/football/2013/9/18/4745658/mack-brown-texas-longhorns-kansas-state-tyrone-swoopes

Not only are they going to ruin the season, but now they are going to ruin our future quarterback. This regime has a fabulous track record of developing players. I'm sure Swoopes won't look out of his league or get hurt.

[Bloeddyr10]

Max Olson reports that '16 S Collin Wilder from Katy HS will be in attendance for the Kansas State game.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/1663222/highlights/69392392

http://247sports.com/Player/Collin-Wilder-32501

'15 DB Kendall Sheffield (of Fort Bend Marshall) and '14 DT Zay'Coven Henderson (Longview) as well.

[TFloss32]

Hope you guys are doing well despite the season already being in the toilet. I've been hosting some family so I haven't been able to be on the computer much at all. I'll go ahead and start posting everything I can and my apologies if some of you have already read it. And since it's clear the AD/head coaching change is in full swing, I will post all rumors out there just so there's something exciting to talk about.

[TFloss32]

A list of attendees for the K-State game this weekend, per 24/7:

2014
WR, Lorenzo Joe, Abilene Cooper
WR, Dorian Leonard, Longview
DT, Zay-Coven Henderson, Longview
DT/DE, Jake McMillon, Abilene

2015
QB, Jarrett Stidham, Stephenville
RB, JaMycal Hasty, Longview
LB, Cameron Townsend, Fort Bend Ridge Point
CB, Kendall Sheffield, Fort Bend Marshall

2016
WR, Reggie Hemphill, Manvel
S, Collin Wilder, Katy

[pgardn]

Hope you guys are doing well despite the season already being in the toilet. I've been hosting some family so I haven't been able to be on the computer much at all. I'll go ahead and start posting everything I can and my apologies if some of you have already read it. And since it's clear the AD/head coaching change is in full swing, I will post all rumors out there just so there's something exciting to talk about.

the man...

Thanks.

[TFloss32]

QB David Ash has supposedly been cleared to start against K-State tomorrow despite there still being rumors out there that his shoulder is giving him problems. We should know early on if he's hurting.

[TFloss32]

A&M WR Ricky Seals-Jones had knee surgery today. No timetable for his return.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/23737521/texas-am-wr-ricky-sealsjones-to-undergo-knee-surgery

[TFloss32]

24/7 reporting that Larry Porter visited 2015 RB Soso Jamabo of Plano West today.

[TFloss32]

2015 S Justin Dunning picked up an offer from Florida State this week, according to 24/7.

[TFloss32]

Article confirming the rumors from months ago that regents from UT did have contact with Saban's agent in January:

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/apnewsbreak-texas-regent-talked-sabans-agent

[TFloss32]

Update on 2015 S Larry Pryor of Sulphur Springs who attended OU's game last weekend instead of Texas/Ole Miss (24/7):

“You know, them (Texas) losing games doesn’t really affect me like people would think,” said Pryor. “Like I said before, it doesn’t keep me from liking Texas. They’re facing some problems right now, but I’ll be watching closely to see how exactly they bounce back.”

“I mean anything can happen,” he said. “It’s still early I would say. I have a lot of faith in them to get the job done. The talent is there and they have great coaches. It’s all about making that work and getting going out on the field.”

“I kind of see them turning it around here pretty quickly,” Pryor said. “In my opinion, they just have to pick it up. They have to play a whole game hard. Every snap they need to be going all out.”

“Texas is still my favorite as of right now,” said Pryor. “It’s them, followed by TCU and then schools like Texas Tech and Arkansas. Oklahoma and LSU are in the mix, too. I visited Oklahoma recently and will visit LSU in a few weeks with (2015 five-star defensive tackle) Daylon (Mack)."

“I’ll also be getting down to Texas again soon,” he added. “I just don’t know when yet.”

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Two disturbing stats to digest before the K-State game tomorrow:

-Texas has the third worst rushing defense in the FBS

-should Texas lose to K-State, that will be the first time they've started a season 1-3 since 1956

[TFloss32]

Quotes from an anonymous source after DE Solomon Thomas visited Texas for the Ole Miss game (24/7). He still plans on taking all official visits after the season, so a new coach may be UT's best chance here:

“The loss wasn’t really a big deal,” the source said. “He enjoyed spending some time with the coaches and especially the other commits. He understands that they’re still trying to figure out some things when it comes to the team, but the night was still a good one for him. He had a good time.”

“Texas is definitely still up there for him,” said the source. “They have a lot to offer, so I know he’ll continue to be high on them. He’s worried about more than just how each team performs this year. There’s a lot more to it than that.”

“Texas A&M isn’t in his favorites right now, but he’s noticed them a little bit lately,” the source said. “It’s possibly they could get in it in the future.”

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Heard rumors that LB/S Edwin Freeman named A&M leaders after last night?

This is true and he confirmed it to 24/7 earlier in the week. He was in attendance for A&M/Bama last Saturday.

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RB Donald Catalon gives his view on Texas' struggles (24/7). Keep it in mind for later on in the year, but losing Applewhite may affect his recruitment even if he doesn't say it publicly:

“I’m not going anywhere,” said Catalon. “I’m not visiting Oklahoma State at all like I talked about before. I was going to go with Trey (Roberts) since he’s committed there, but decided against it."

“I’m solid to Texas,” he added. “That’s not changing. If I go anywhere, it will just be to watch them for a game.”

“That (losing) doesn’t affect anything,” Catalon said. “I’ll still be committed. They just have to come on with it. It’s going to take work to turn it around, but they can do it.”

“I feel like I can definitely contribute next year,” he said. “I think I can help out with the run game and on special teams to do my part. I’ll help do anything and carry the ball or take some returns back. Whatever they need, I can help.”

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Update on 2015 QB Jarrett Stidham of Stephenville (24/7):

“I’ll be coming down there for the Kansas State game,” said Stidham. “I’m excited to head down there this weekend and talk with the coaches. I’m also excited to see the offense live and watch them get a win.”

“I think it’s just a matter of time until they get back to where they want to be,” he said. “I know they're making some changes, but I’m sure it will all work out.”

“They can get it done and I’ll be watching them to see just how they do the entire season,” Stidham said. “How each team like Texas performs for the rest of the year will be big in my recruitment. It will play a factor into it.”

“Recruiting has been going pretty good,” he said. “I’m getting a lot of mail and talking to some new coaches from new schools. Lately schools like Oregon, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Washington State, UCLA, TCU, Vanderbilt and other have been showing interest in me, too."

“I’m wide open though,” Stidham added. “Right now I have no favorites.”

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Quick quote from 2015 WR DaMarkus Lodge of Cedar Hill (24/7):

“I’ll still be interested in Texas no matter how bad their season may get,” Lodge said.

[TFloss32]

Funny fake article from Barking Carnival making fun of Mack for already apologizing for an OU loss:

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/9/16/4739334/mack-brown-apologizes-for-66-17-loss-to-ou-next-month

[TFloss32]

Is anyone seeing the posters on campus that are basically saying "Fire Mack Brown"?

I saw a picture of them earlier today and now I can't find a copy to show the board. It may have been a fake, but I was just wondering because I didn't see anything last weekend when I was in town for Ole Miss.

[Blake]

Two disturbing stats to digest before the K-State game tomorrow:

-Texas has the third worst rushing defense in the FBS

-should Texas lose to K-State, that will be the first time they've started a season 1-3 since 1956

How are they not the worst

[TFloss32]

How are they not the worst

To add to that, Texas may get beat by a team that lost to an FCS school (North Dakota State).

[TFloss32]

Updated attendees list for the K-State game tomorrow with a few additions from OrangeBloods. As always, the guys in red are "maybes." Keep an eye on CB John Plattenburg of Houston Lamar as he may pick up an offer:

2014
RB, D'Onta Foreman, Texas City
WR, Armanti Foreman, Texas City
WR, Lorenzo Joe, Abilene Cooper
WR, Dorian Leonard, Longview
DT, Zay-Coven Henderson, Longview
DT/DE, Jake McMillon, Abilene
DE, Sione Teuhema, Keller
LB, Cameron Hampton, Dallas Carter
LB/S, Edwin Freeman, Arlington Bowie
CB, John Plattenburg, Houston Lamar

2015
QB, Jarrett Stidham, Stephenville
RB, JaMycal Hasty, Longview
OL, Aaron Garza, Sherman
OL, Connor Lanfear, Buda Hays
OL, Maea Teuhema, Keller
LB, Cameron Townsend, Fort Bend Ridge Point
CB, Kendall Sheffield, Fort Bend Marshall

2016
WR, Reggie Hemphill, Manvel
S, Collin Wilder, Katy

[TFloss32]

DE Derick Roberson was named a 2014 Under Armour All-American this week:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m631/dustinmccomas/photo17_zpsafd55e67.jpg

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m631/dustinmccomas/photo16_zpsb6824ab0.jpg

[ThePop]

Is anyone seeing the posters on campus that are basically saying "Fire Mack Brown"?

I saw a picture of them earlier today and now I can't find a copy to show the board. It may have been a fake, but I was just wondering because I didn't see anything last weekend when I was in town for Ole Miss.

I haven't seen anything though I also don't have any classes outside of the engineering area. I'm interested in helping whoever is putting them up if this is true.

[TFloss32]

FYI (if anyone cares) that College GameDay will have an interview with Mack tomorrow morning.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying WR Mike Davis is out for K-State after spraining his ankle against Ole Miss.

[TFloss32]

Johnny Whisenant ‏@Texas0205
UT's oldest living football player, 100 yr old John Henderson,will be an honorary captain tomorrow night vs KSU @HornSports @wildcatvictory

[The Reckoning]

Johnny Whisenant ‏@Texas0205
UT's oldest living football player, 100 yr old John Henderson,will be an honorary captain tomorrow night vs KSU @HornSports @wildcatvictory

might as well start him at quarterback

[Bloeddyr10]

Is anyone seeing the posters on campus that are basically saying "Fire Mack Brown"?

I saw a picture of them earlier today and now I can't find a copy to show the board. It may have been a fake, but I was just wondering because I didn't see anything last weekend when I was in town for Ole Miss.

These?
http://i.imgur.com/CurP0nD.jpg

[TFloss32]

That's it, Bloeddyr. Thanks for posting that.

[TFloss32]

Former UT TE David Thomas speaks to the team:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiTdYb6lXGA

[benefactor]

These?
http://i.imgur.com/CurP0nD.jpg
Outstanding.

[Sisk]

Mack hatred has seemingly reached a fever pitch.

[benefactor]

Justifiably so.

[TFloss32]

kbohls ‏@kbohls (https://twitter.com/kbohls)
Some Texas fans wearing Saban 2014 T-shirts. Didn't know there were so many Alabama fans in Austin. #statesman (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23statesman&src=hash)


kbohls ‏@kbohls (https://twitter.com/kbohls)
Maybe the fewest Texas tailgate parties I've seen in 20 years. Zero buzz two hours before kickoff. #statesman (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23statesman&src=hash)

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods reporting OL Josh Cochran is also out for tonight's game. His shoulder is still giving him problems.

[jeebus]

wooo. just made it back in time to watch the slaughter. I wanna hear some boos tonight! start det game thread, you drunk fuck benefactor

[jeebus]

:lmao great fuckin start

[Michael Jordan.]

Why is Swoopes not in at QB?

[TFloss32]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUuAZjwCEAA5f-u.jpg

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kbohls ‏@kbohls (https://twitter.com/kbohls)51s (https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/381600025479880707)
Texas QB David Ash evaluated for a head injury, will not return to the game.

[pgardn]

Oh great...

The guy who cannot throw the ball 20 yards makes another appearance.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying the injury to LB Jordan Hicks is an ankle sprain.

[TFloss32]

Jesus saying that Hicks' injury is possibly a torn achilles.

This would make more sense than a sprained ankle since he was carted off last night.

[The Reckoning]

:pctoss:

time to button down the hatches

[Bloeddyr10]

Jesus saying that Hicks' injury is possibly a torn achilles.

This would make more sense than a sprained ankle since he was carted off last night.

Rumors on Twitter is he is out for the rest of the season.

Bright side? Hopefully, we will se more of Tevin Jackson.

[Michael Jordan.]

Hicks is made of glass.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying CB John Plattenburg of Houston Lamar did not make the game last night.

[TFloss32]

Rumors on Twitter is he is out for the rest of the season.

Everyone now reporting he tore his achilles and he's done for the year.

[Vito Corleone]

His NFL window is about to close too.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying 2015 CB Kendall Sheffield is another prospect who didn't show up last night.

[ThePop]

His NFL window is about to close too.

about to?

We might as well consider Hicks no longer a part of the team; we can pretend he committed to Florida over Texas because he's had no impact here other than w/Case. You have to feel bad for him.

[TFloss32]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/190w5uj4951gjgif/original.gif

[TFloss32]

2017 RB/LB Dylan Moses has committed to LSU.

[Vito Corleone]

about to?

We might as well consider Hicks no longer a part of the team; we can pretend he committed to Florida over Texas because he's had no impact here other than w/Case. You have to feel bad for him.

He still has another year of eligibility to see what else he can break

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying DE Cedric Reed broke his hand on Saturday night.

It may affect his playing time, but he'll continue to be in the line-up.

[TFloss32]

Quotes from 2015 QB Jarrett Stidham after his visit to Austin for K-State (24/7):

“The trip went very well,” said Stidham. “The atmosphere was awesome. I was really impressed. What really stood out though was just the way the coaches were treating me.”

“I talked with Coach (Patrick) Suddes, Coach (Major) Applewhite and Coach (Mack) Brown,” he said. “They told me that they really wanted me down there in Austin. They said that I would be a great fit and that it's an offense that I could do great in.”

“I liked the offense,” Stidham said. “I really liked how fast they got the plays off and how much they spread the field. I was actually thoroughly impressed with the offense.”

“I don’t have any favorites yet,” Stidham said. “I’m still going to take my time with the process. I like Texas, but I just don’t have any favorites right now. I’m still open.”

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24/7 reporting one of their sources is describing DT Zay-Coven Henderson as a lock to Texas after his official visit for K-State.

[TFloss32]

CB John Plattenburg isn't thought to be considering Texas at this point, according to 24/7.

[TFloss32]

A new name to remember is 2015 DT Darrion Daniels of Dallas Bishop Dunne, per 24/7.

He's gone from a no-name to receiving offers from Baylor, OU, Ole Miss and Notre Dame in one week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxzwAjT4O14

[TFloss32]

Quick quote from 2015 DE James Lockhart of Ennis (24/7):

“Texas is still my favorite,” said Lockhart. “They’re still my number one top school. It’s them, followed by Texas A&M, Ohio State and then TCU. Those are my favorites in that order.”

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying things with 2015 CB Kris Boyd of Gilmer have changed dramatically since Texas lost to BYU. He now has Oregon on top of his list and says once they offer, he'll think about shutting things down quickly.

[TFloss32]

Newest set of rankings:

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

[TFloss32]

Week 5 television schedule:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/5

[ThePop]

Boyd said the same thing about shutting it down when Oregon offers a while ago during the offseason. It was either on twitter or that "ask.fm" thing people used. I'm not so sure Texas was ever truly his favorite.

[Bloeddyr10]

I think Boyds recruitment will be entertaining. ESPN reported back in the summer, that Boyd was close to pulling the trigger and commit to Texas back in June.

"It would be exciting (to get an offer), probably emotional," Boyd said. "I wouldn't try to show it, but I'd be happy. I would be overwhelmed. I probably would commit. Right now, I'm just waiting."
- Quote is from May 28th.

[Bloeddyr10]

Not really surprised that Plattenburg didn't show up at the game. Always thought that if he would visit, it would be with Bonney by his side. But I'm a bit confused that he, apparently, doesn't consider Texas anymore. I thought getting Bonney would help with him.

Btw. How do you guys pronounce Bonney? Like "Bunny" or "Bone-y"? I keep saying "bunny", but I'm not sure how it's actually pronounced.

[TFloss32]

Not really surprised that Plattenburg didn't show up at the game. Always thought that if he would visit, it would be with Bonney by his side. But I'm a bit confused that he, apparently, doesn't consider Texas anymore. I thought getting Bonney would help with him.

Btw. How do you guys pronounce Bonney? Like "Bunny" or "Bone-y"? I keep saying "bunny", but I'm not sure how it's actually pronounced.

I pronounce his name like "Johnny".

[TFloss32]

I'm curious what everyone thinks, so question for the board...if it's determined that Ash is done for the year (or more) because of concussions, how would you handle the QB situation? Roll with Case only and save Swoopes' redshirt? Give Case the starts and mix in Swoopes? Prepare Swoopes for 2014 where he may beat out Ash?

[Kermit]

I'm curious what everyone thinks, so question for the board...if it's determined that Ash is done for the year (or more) because of concussions, how would you handle the QB situation? Roll with Case only and save Swoopes' redshirt? Give Case the starts and mix in Swoopes? Prepare Swoopes for 2014 where he may beat out Ash?

There's no reason why they should burn Swoopes' redshirt. He's not ready, and playing under this fuckstain coaching staff will (I feel pretty definitive in saying this given their track record) fuck him up beyond repair. Keep him on the bench and ride Gray. If we suck worse, so be it.

That being said, be prepared for Swoopes to play in 11 days.

[Biily Ray Valentine]

I'm curious what everyone thinks, so question for the board...if it's determined that Ash is done for the year (or more) because of concussions, how would you handle the QB situation? Roll with Case only and save Swoopes' redshirt? Give Case the starts and mix in Swoopes? Prepare Swoopes for 2014 where he may beat out Ash?

I say mix him in. If you go with Case exclusively, you're basically throwing in the towel. You simply can't afford to do that this year. You have to salvage what you can. If the kid is ready, you have to let him play. What if Ash gets hurt next year and you have an inexperienced Swoopes? Besides, you could use a little separation in years between him and Heard. It's early enough in the year that he can get a good amount of playing time and not really "burn" his redshirt. It would be great to have the luxury to sit him, but at this point, anyone that can play needs to see the field.

[The Reckoning]

redshirts are overrated in this day and age. play swoopes.


if anything, he's an electrifying player that will entice recruits and boosters. i'd think long-term here.

[TFloss32]

Crazy fact of the day.

Baylor is the first team to open a season with three straight games of 60+ points since 1930 LSU.

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Landthieves ‏@LandThieves
Bob Stoops says Trevor Knight has been cleared to return to practice today.. DJ Ward cleared as well

[TFloss32]

This is from the NFL but I'm posting it because I've never seen this type of injury before. Read the first two paragraphs:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9712075/arizona-cardinals-safety-rashad-johnson-loses-part-finger-glove

[rjv]

This is from the NFL but I'm posting it because I've never seen this type of injury before. Read the first two paragraphs:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9712075/arizona-cardinals-safety-rashad-johnson-loses-part-finger-glove I actually saw something similar when I was playing high school ball. a player lost the tip of his finger when he accidentally kept his finger between the two plates of the blocking sled and when another player slammed into the sled his finger was amputated. we actually found the finger and he had it grafted back on at the hospital. pretty cool.

[Bloeddyr10]

I actually saw something similar when I was playing high school ball. a player lost the tip of his finger when he accidentally kept his finger between the two plates of the blocking sled and when another player slammed into the sled his finger was amputated. we actually found the finger and he had it grafted back on at the hospital. pretty cool.

I witnessed a similar accident in Denmark on a "rookie day" (a day where fans could try the sport to see if it were something they wanted to play). He got his fingers crushed in a blocking sled. Ambulances came in from everywhere but no one could find his finger.

[rjv]

I witnessed a similar accident in Denmark on a "rookie day" (a day where fans could try the sport to see if it were something they wanted to play). He got his fingers crushed in a blocking sled. Ambulances came in from everywhere but no one could find his finger.
hah. I wonder how that incident impacted the interest of the fans who showed up.

[TFloss32]

Texas Tech joins the "Keep Mack Brown" movement:

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2013/9/22/4759756/keep-mack-brown-shirts-all-the-rage-everywhere-besides-texas

[TFloss32]

More discussion on Ash's concussion(s) from Barking Carnival:

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/9/23/4762380/concussion-repercussions-david-ash-mack-brown-texas-longhorns-kansas-state-wildcats