2014 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[pgardn]

Oh and F red ...

Tax cheating sob

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-03/mccombs-partnership-tax-shelter-penalty-upheld-by-court.html

[rjv]

looks like petrino was offered the louisville job

[TFloss32]

Johnny Manziel going pro:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10262570/johnny-manziel-declares-2014-nfl-draft

[DMX7]

Johnny Manziel going pro:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10262570/johnny-manziel-declares-2014-nfl-draft

Media is really milking this story. It was pretty obvious he was going pro when hired representation and of course when he said he wanted to get out of College Station. I would say Mack would still have a job right now if he had recruited Manziel, but even that is a stretch considering how poorly Mack was coaching the last few years.

[DMX7]

A lot of conflicting reports on Henderson out right now. Losing him would be a genuine blow to the 2014 class. Sounds like he could still end up at Texas, but things are extremely shaky right now with his recruitment.

[Jimmiemac]

looks like petrino was offered the louisville jobLouisville comes out the big winner in all this.

[TFloss32]

Louisville set to hire Bobby Petrino:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24402435/report-louisvilles-hiring-of-bobby-petrino-is-imminent

[yavozerb]

Louisville comes out the big winner in all this.

Wow, you call having Petrino as your head football coach a victory...sad

[jefe82]

Max Olson ‏@max_olson 2m
Longview coach John King tells me DT Zaycoven Henderson spoke with Charlie Strong and is indeed going to Texas.

[TFloss32]

Max Olson ‏@max_olson 2m
Longview coach John King tells me DT Zaycoven Henderson spoke with Charlie Strong and is indeed going to Texas.

Nice save.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Max Olson ‏@max_olson 2m
Longview coach John King tells me DT Zaycoven Henderson spoke with Charlie Strong and is indeed going to Texas.

That was CLUTCH!

[DMX7]

Thank God. Like I said, that would have been a disaster if he bailed on us. We need him badly.

[Sisk]

Thought this was a cool story about Strong:


RC Slocum was on the radio with Dat Nguyen on the San Antonio ESPN station (1250) the other afternoon as I was driving home from work. Among other things, they were talking about the Charlie Strong hire at t.u. Most know he was a Grad Assistant at A&M under Sherrill (Slocum was DCoord) in 1985. Dat asked about what characteristics Strong displayed that set him apart from other GA's. Slocum said we didn't really have them do a lot of "coaching" but what he looked for was that guy who came early, stayed late, and was always looking for something/anything he could do to contribute. He said Charlie was one of those guys.


Then he went on to tell the story of how Charlie got his break to become a real coach on a staff. He said he been good friends with Ray Dorr for a long time and Ray was coach at S. Illinois. RC was talking to Ray and asked if he had any openings on his staff. Ray said he did, but he had it narrowed down to 2 or 3 guys, and he was pretty sure he was going to hire one of them. RC said "I have this guy that's really good, and I promise you, if you interview him, you'll hire him." Dorr told RC that he was comfortable with the 2 or 3 candidates he had, and besides, a small program like S Illinois doesn't have a lot of money to be flying people around for interviews. RC said "Ray, what if I buy him a plane ticket to fly up there and see you. Do you think you could take 20 or 30 minutes to sit down and talk with him?" Dorr said "well, I can't turn down a deal like that!"


Strong flew up to Illinois on RC's dime, and as predicted, got hired into his first ever coaching job.

[leemajors]

Thought this was a cool story about Strong:

:tu

[DMX7]

Thought this was a cool story about Strong:

Yeah, I always had respect for RC Slocum. He stands in stark contrast to Dennis who reportedly sold dirty $1,200 insider newsletters.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying Texas has offered DT Chris Nelson of Lakeland, FL who is currently committed to Louisville:

http://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Nelson-23745

[TFloss32]

This tweet is from a guy that covers Florida for Scout:

@Jason_Higdon (https://twitter.com/Jason_Higdon)
Look for some surprise official visits on January 24th to Texas.

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas has been saying to keep an eye on DT Travonte Valentine of Palm Bay, FL as well:

http://247sports.com/Player/Travonte-Valentine-21006

[DMX7]

Looks like Stonrg's Florida connections may come through for us at DT.

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas, DT Chris Nelson will officially visit Texas on January 24th and Nelson himself says he'll be thinking about shutting it down while in Austin.

[DMX7]

Per Inside Texas, DT Chris Nelson will officially visit Texas on January 24th and Nelson himself says he'll be thinking about shutting it down while in Austin.

I like him a lot more than the San Antonio DT kid we lost.

[TFloss32]

Quotes from DT Chris Nelson of Lakeland, FL (24/7):

“I reached out to him (Strong),” said Nelson. “I wanted to see what he could do for me so I called Coach Strong and he asked if I would like to follow him to Texas. He wanted to know if my parents thought they would mind that."

“I’m going to talk that over with them later tonight and go from there,” he added. “I like where this is going.”

“He (Strong) offered me right then when I told him I would be interested,” Nelson told Horns247. “I have an offer from Texas now and will be taking an official visit to there later this month, on the 24th.”“I’m ready to go see what Texas has to offer,” he said. “This is something I’m very interested in and I’m very interested in Texas."

“If Texas is as good as everyone says it is, I’m pretty sure I will go ahead and commit to them,” he added. “I’ll switch my commitment.”

[TFloss32]

24/7 mentioned that DT Poona Ford of Hilton Head Island, SC would also like to visit Texas if he can get on the same page with Strong.

He is currently committed to Louisville as well:

http://247sports.com/Player/Poona-Ford-27451

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, new coaches Vance Bedford (defensive coordinator), Brian Jean-Mary (linebackers) and Pat Moorer (Strength & Conditioning) have all arrived on campus as of this afternoon. Also, Texas coaches (other than Wylie and Madden) have yet to be notified of their future status.

[Whisky Dog]

Thanks for the info Tfloss, good to see you still going strong with it.

[TFloss32]

A few notes from 24/7...

-Strong met with the remaining Texas coaches today

-Wyatt, Chambers and Giles seem to the be the only coaches that could remain on staff at this point

-Shawn Watson of Louisville may no longer be the leading candidate for offensive coordinator, Strong may now have someone else in mind

-Strong won't fill out his offensive staff until the offensive coordinator is hired

[DMX7]

I have got to admit, I was sick of seeing that Garret avatar.

[TFloss32]

Updated list of coaching candidates for the remaining vacancies (24/7). Keep in mind these are some of the main names and not everyone being considered:

Offensive Coordinator
Shawn Watson (Louisville)
Tom Herman (Ohio State)
Mike Yurcich (OK State)
Josh Henson (Missouri)
Mike Norvell (Arizona State)

Wide Receivers
Joker Phillips (Florida)
Tim Brewster (Florida State)
Darrell Wyatt (Texas)

Tight Ends
Tim Brewster (Florida State)
Bruce Chambers (Texas)

Offensive Line
Joe Wickline (OK State)

Defensive Line
Buddy Wyatt (Kansas)
Oscar Giles (Texas)

Defensive Backs
Van Malone (OK State)

[TFloss32]

24/7 also saying there is a high school coach being considered for an unspecified position.

[TFloss32]

I have got to admit, I was sick of seeing that Garret avatar.

Time to move on from the Mack Era.

[TFloss32]

Thanks for the info Tfloss, good to see you still going strong with it.

Good to see you around, Whisky.

Thread hasn't been as fun the past two years, but hopefully the future is bright.

[TFloss32]

24/7 also saying there is a high school coach being considered for an unspecified position.

Just saw where they said they were left with the impression that this high school coach would be a position coach.

I'd consider names like Fedora (Navasota), McGuire (Cedar Hill), Dodge (Marble Falls) and Mathis (DeSoto).

[Sisk]

A&M has received a commitment from 2014 Longview DT Zaycoven Henderson

[TFloss32]

Henderson is now going to three different schools in one day.

I don't know that I've seen that before.

[Sisk]

Henderson is now going to three different schools in one day.

I don't know that I've seen that before.

Texas, A&M, who was the third? I was not expecting this at all.

[ThePop]

Tech and Texas

[Sisk]

Tech and Texas


Strange. Though, TFloss, remember Marcus Johnson? He went from Tech, to A&M, to Texas, in ~24-48 hours IIRC.

[DMX7]

I can't help but laugh at the Henderson flip flopping. If he weren't a Spring enrolle, I would fully expect him to change his mind 2 or 3 more times.

Fortunately, CS's ties to Florida sounds like they are going to bail us out and we'll at least get some bodies to fill the position which is all we can ask for at this point. DT has been a disaster recruiting wise for Texas the last two seasons now.

[jefe82]

I can't help but laugh at the Henderson flip flopping. If he weren't a Spring enrolle, I would fully expect him to change his mind 2 or 3 more times.

He already has TCU, Texas, Tech, and A&M

[DMX7]

We flipped him from TCU which shocked me to begin with considering it was pretty obvious Mack was out the door.

[DesignatedT]

A&M had their pick between Henderson and Lealaimatafao. They chose Henderson. Both reached out.

[DMX7]

I'm hearing OU, OSU and Ole Miss are not completely out of play for Henderson, but it's pretty safe to say at this point that UT is completely out of the picture.

[jimbo]

Just saw where they said they were left with the impression that this high school coach would be a position coach.

I'd consider names like Fedora (Navasota), McGuire (Cedar Hill), Dodge (Marble Falls) and Mathis (DeSoto).

Didn't Mack do this when he came on?

and

1) Anyone but Watson. Anyone. I don't want the WCO and I don't want a guy forced to run an offense he doesn't want to. I'm not even sure if that's ever worked out.

2) Not too disappointed about Henderson. Hopefully that DT's Strong's trying to flip from Lousiville commits to us.

[Whisky Dog]

Didn't Mack do this when he came on?

and

1) Anyone but Watson. Anyone. I don't want the WCO and I don't want a guy forced to run an offense he doesn't want to. I'm not even sure if that's ever worked out.

2) Not too disappointed about Henderson. Hopefully that DT's Strong's trying to flip from Lousiville commits to us.


Two things stick out to me about Watson: 1) his offense was so terrible in 2009 that he couldn't win a conference championship with a defense that was barely giving up 10 pts a game. 2) he lost to a 5-7 shitshow team QB'd by Garrett Gilbert because his offense was so inept and poorly coached they couldn't keep from making mistake after mistake.

Two seasons playing mostly terrible competition with the best QB in this draft class doesn't erase those things for me. Strong will sign his own coaching death warrant before he ever leads a practice if he brings that guy in here. So many better options it's not even funny. Hopefully he knows this and the talk about Watson has been garbage.

[rjv]

Yeah, I always had respect for RC Slocum. He stands in stark contrast to Dennis who reportedly sold dirty $1,200 insider newsletters.

worst hire we ever had. fran almost killed the program. i'm pretty certain strong will prove to be a solid hire.

[rjv]

Strange. Though, TFloss, remember Marcus Johnson? He went from Tech, to A&M, to Texas, in ~24-48 hours IIRC.

and what are the odds he stays committed to the aggies? this is not a lock in my mind at all. i'll take it but won't be convinced unless he signs his offer.

[pgardn]

HS kids...

God would I hate dealing with all this crap.

Hopefully we can learn to grow talent like Stanford. Take some kids that are not at their top level as a HS senior and not heavily recruited, but with the mental and physical upside to be very good players by the time they are juniors.

These HS seniors are like 2 year old thoroughbreds. You never know how they are going to develop. Jackson Jeffcoat had a very good senior year at Texas and was the #1 or 2 rated HS player. Now he is rated about 7th best DE going into the NFL draft. I would consider him successful but he clearly got passed by others.

[DesignatedT]

and what are the odds he stays committed to the aggies? this is not a lock in my mind at all. i'll take it but won't be convinced unless he signs his offer.

He's a midterm enrollee so it's going to happen quick. He doesn't have much time to change his mind again.

[rjv]

He's a midterm enrollee so it's going to happen quick. He doesn't have much time to change his mind again.

yeah but this kid changed his mind three times in one day! from the tweets i read it looks good but still not quite there yet.

[Clipper Nation]

Looks like MBTF is bringing his orange slices, butter teeth, and softness to a Boise State game next season:

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[Halberto]

I'll start by saying I wish Henderson stayed with Texas... but seriously? Kinda shows fickle character. I wonder if he changes his mind tomorrow and goes to SMU or Rice for an hour or two... When his team isn't playing well I bet he's poison in the locker room.

[Sisk]

yeah but this kid changed his mind three times in one day! from the tweets i read it looks good but still not quite there yet.

I read that he arrives to campus tomorrow (today, Thursday).

[Vito Corleone]

Good luck to the kid, I'm ready to move on, hope he made the right choice for himself and he plays a lot better than he handled his recruitment.

[TFloss32]

LB Otaro Alaka has scheduled an official visit to LSU. He will be at A&M next weekend.

[TFloss32]

2015 DT Hanner Shipley has committed to LSU.

[TFloss32]

Penn State has reportedly offered James Franklin and he will make a decision today:

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2014-01-07/james-franklin-penn-state-coaching-rumors-frontrunner-nittany-lions-bill-obrien

[TFloss32]

Forgot to post this last night, but look for Alabama to hire Lane Kiffin for offensive coordinator.

[rjv]

jalen tabor pulled a henderson and switched from arizona to florida

[DMX7]

Forgot to post this last night, but look for Alabama to hire Lane Kiffin for offensive coordinator.

He is completely linked in... he always lands on his feet and then some.

[Clipper Nation]

Forgot to post this last night, but look for Alabama to hire Lane Kiffin for offensive coordinator.
:lmao

[DesignatedT]

LB Otaro Alaka has scheduled an official visit to LSU. He will be at A&M next weekend.

This is going to be an interesting recruitment going forward. Going to be a tough get for everyone. I hope A&M can somehow land Kenny Young because I wouldn't hold my breath on Alaka and we desperately need LB help.

[DesignatedT]

Trey Lealaimatafao has been offered by LSU.

A&M OT Cedric Ogbuehi will return for his senior season at A&M after receiving all first round grades in the upcoming draft.

[rjv]

Trey Lealaimatafao has been offered by LSU.

A&M OT Cedric Ogbuehi will return for his senior season at A&M after receiving all first round grades in the upcoming draft.

nice, he and matthews will certainly be big on the OL next season

[TFloss32]

James Franklin to Penn State:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/01/09/penn-state-vanderbilt-coach-james-franklin/4387145/

[TFloss32]

This is going to be an interesting recruitment going forward. Going to be a tough get for everyone. I hope A&M can somehow land Kenny Young because I wouldn't hold my breath on Alaka and we desperately need LB help.

FWIW, 24/7 mentioned last night Texas has a lot of work to do to keep Alaka.

With that said, I don't think he's spoken with Strong or any staff members yet.

[TFloss32]

Strong's first interview on the LHN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7eS18NDCpc

[bluetrumpet]

I don't like all this staff being let go. Why would we get rid of Suddes? Any ideas who this OC with UT/Texas familiarities is?

[Bloeddyr10]

I don't like all this staff being let go. Why would we get rid of Suddes? Any ideas who this OC with UT/Texas familiarities is?

Most people think that Tom Herman from Ohio State is the next OC. He was a GA from '98 to '99 at Texas.

[Kermit]

I don't like all this staff being let go. Why would we get rid of Suddes? Any ideas who this OC with UT/Texas familiarities is?

Why? Most all of them sucked dick. It's like choosing an officer on the Titanic.

[TFloss32]

Now that Franklin is off to Penn State, Strong has been in contact wth DT Michael Sawyers of Nashville, TN:

http://247sports.com/Player/Michael-Sawyers-21450

[TFloss32]

I don't like all this staff being let go. Why would we get rid of Suddes? Any ideas who this OC with UT/Texas familiarities is?

I was hoping Suddes would remain.

I think he's the main reason Texas had any recruiting momentum at all last year.

[bluetrumpet]

I was thinking Suddes, Wyatt, and Porter would have been retained. Those 3 were probably the best personnel that the team had last year. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

[Kermit]

With the reaction of all the beat reporters, I think we know who an inside source was. You would think Suddes was the second coming of Jesus.

[DMX7]

With the reaction of all the beat reporters, I think we know who an inside source was. You would think Suddes was the second coming of Jesus.

lol, I didn't think about that.

[TFloss32]

Update on DT Chris Nelson of Lakeland, FL from 24/7...he will be flying in on the 24th with both of his parents and will stay the weekend. He's "very excited" about the trip and says he would have to just hate something about UT for him not to flip his commitment. He also mentioned he wants DT Poona Ford to join him and he likes the depth chart currently.

[TFloss32]

QB Baker Mayfield discusses why he decided to leave Texas Tech:

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/78697/qa-former-texas-tech-qb-baker-mayfield

[Kermit]

QB Baker Mayfield discusses why he decided to leave Texas Tech:

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/78697/qa-former-texas-tech-qb-baker-mayfield

Goddamn I hate the NCAA and it's transfer rules.

[the chronic]

I met Suddes before at an event and spoke with him at length and frankly am surprised with all the outpouring of support. Thought he was kind of a doofus. But hey, that's just me.

[Mr. Peabody]

Update on DT Chris Nelson of Lakeland, FL from 24/7...he will be flying in on the 24th with both of his parents and will stay the weekend. He's "very excited" about the trip and says he would have to just hate something about UT for him not to flip his commitment. He also mentioned he wants DT Poona Ford to join him and he likes the depth chart currently.

Good news. The lack of DTs recently is a huge concern.

[TFloss32]

From FB Alex De La Torre:

@ADLT36
Met Coach Moorer earlier. Needless to say, I'm excited to endure a lot of pain.

[DMX7]

"Bull dog thoozie" - by Z. Henderson

LFG2y59sH8M

[TFloss32]

Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownOB
If the name I'm hearing for #Texas (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23Texas&src=hash)' offensive coordinator turns out to be the guy, #Longhorns (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23Longhorns&src=hash) would be getting a good one.

[rjv]

wow, chip brown covering his ass with extremely vague reports

[DMX7]

wow, chip brown covering his ass with extremely vague reports

If you even want to call that tweet reporting.

[Kermit]

wow, chip brown covering his ass with extremely vague reports

Now, now. He correctly reported something awhile ago.

[TFloss32]

Texas' potential RBs coach, Kenny Carter, interviewed for the UMass head coaching vacancy today:

http://www.masslive.com/umassfootball/index.ssf/2014/01/report_louisville_strb_coach_k.html

[TFloss32]

wow, chip brown covering his ass with extremely vague reports

Name of the game is to always carefully word your tweets or predictions, but Chip did elaborate on OBs that the name he's hearing is Herman from Ohio State.

[TFloss32]

Cedric Golden ‏@CedGolden
Texas defensive end Cedric Reed is returning to Texas for his senior season, according to a source with knowledge of the situation

[DMX7]

Cedric Golden ‏@CedGolden
Texas defensive end Cedric Reed is returning to Texas for his senior season, according to a source with knowledge of the situation

Nice. At least we know we have Reed and Brown on the DL for next year. That's a good start.

[rjv]

Name of the game is to always carefully word your tweets or predictions, but Chip did elaborate on OBs that the name he's hearing is Herman from Ohio State.

i understand that but 1) that's the sort of tweet anyone could have sent, so without any clarification it lacked any substance and 2) being that chip has been so wrong so often it just begs for commentary

[ColinB]

Great news on Reed.

[TFloss32]

@BFeldmanCBS
No truth to rumors about #OhioState OC Tom Herman leaving for #Texas.

[TFloss32]

i understand that but 1) that's the sort of tweet anyone could have sent, so without any clarification it lacked any substance and 2) being that chip has been so wrong so often it just begs for commentary

Oh, I'm agreeing with you. It was like that one tweet that Burton had the night of the banquet and it sent the entire fanbase into a frenzy. Basically said, "Mack will continue to coach UT" but didn't mention anything about timeline. These guys know how to carefully construct their statements.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying Strong has spoken with Clemson offensive coordinator, Chad Morris, the past couple of days and he's a hot name right now. The report mentioned it will cost UT $5.2 million + a million dollar salary to get him to make the move. Morris' name is being mentioned for the Vanderbilt head coaching vacancy right now.

[benefactor]

We will see how serious they are about bringing in a legit OC. Personally, I don't see them paying the buyout even though they could pretty easily.

[Kermit]

We will see how serious they are about bringing in a legit OC. Personally, I don't see them paying the buyout even though they could pretty easily.

That buyout is more than most head coaches.

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, Texas has offered 2015 OL George Brown, Jr. of Cincinnati, OH.

His father is saying a visit to Austin is now a priority and will be planned soon.

http://247sports.com/Player/George-Brown-Jr--28366

[benefactor]

That buyout is more than most head coaches.
:tu

[pgardn]

Cedric Golden ‏@CedGolden
Texas defensive end Cedric Reed is returning to Texas for his senior season, according to a source with knowledge of the situation

He looked in slow motion against Oregon. He better return and improve.

[Vito Corleone]

He looked in slow motion against Oregon. He better return and improve.

Cedric and Shiro are going to be lethal in the Texas defense next year. Add to that Dez Jackson and Malcolm Brown and Texas will have one of the best front 4 in college football.

[DMX7]

Cedric and Shiro are going to be lethal in the Texas defense next year. Add to that Dez Jackson and Malcolm Brown and Texas will have one of the best front 4 in college football.

Is Shiro going to play DE or LB.

[pgardn]

Cedric and Shiro are going to be lethal in the Texas defense next year. Add to that Dez Jackson and Malcolm Brown and Texas will have one of the best front 4 in college football.

I hope. Malcolm Brown needs some nutritional advice. It's pretty obvious this last group was not pushed. Reed stock, if he had any, had to be damaged after the Oregon game. I would
think Jeffcoat probably rose.

[pgardn]

Red apologizes...

He called Strong. Red wants to be able to hobnob with the in crowd. Cute.

[benefactor]

Red wants to be able to hobnob with the in crowd.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3659378/all-by-myself-o.gif

[TFloss32]

I don't know who reported it first, but Bob Shipley will be remaining on staff.

[TFloss32]

Quote from DT Michael Sawyers of Nashville, TN (Rivals):

"I feel like I could go there and compete for playing time. Everything about Texas would be great, the tradition, all that stuff. I think it's the kind of place you go to for an official visit and fall in love. I'm pretty sure they have a spot for me. Coach (Charlie) Strong is really still looking at the recruits they have and trying to make a decision. But I love Coach Strong and the coaches he's bringing with him from Louisville. I really like them when Louisville was recruiting me - I just didn't like what the school had to offer that much. But that staff was amazing."

[benefactor]

I really like them when Louisville was recruiting me - I just didn't like what the school had to offer that much.
It really makes you wonder if some other players that said no might start to feel the same way.

Pretty much confirms what some others have already said...if he can get recruits to come to a place like Louisville the gates should swing open wide at Texas.

[TFloss32]

DT Poona Ford of Hilton Head Island, SC has de-committed from Louisiville.

He says he'll take official visits to Mizzou, Oregon and Texas.

[rjv]

It really makes you wonder if some other players that said no might start to feel the same way.

Pretty much confirms what some others have already said...if he can get recruits to come to a place like Louisville the gates should swing open wide at Texas.

three star recruits. texas is not about three star recruits. i'd actually phrase it as: if strong can't keep the blue chips from migrating away from texas (which should be able to recruit itself) then he took the wrong job.

[benefactor]

Not really sure why you even responded. What you said in your last sentence is basically what I said just in a different context.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying DT Poona Ford will be in Austin on the 21st, 24/7 saying the 17th.

[rjv]

Not really sure why you even responded. What you said in your last sentence is basically what I said just in a different context. i'll be less obtuse...it's not that impressive when one can get mostly three star recruits to go to louisville (which, granted, is a dump) so that is not indicative of strong's recruiting prowess. it is impressive when one can coach up three star players to the extent that he did.

[rjv]

four star CB, nigel bethel, swapped his commitment from miami to texas tech

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods reporting Texas and Jerry Gray have had "preliminary" talks about the open DB coaching position.

[rjv]

OrangeBloods reporting Texas and Jerry Gray have had "preliminary" talks about the open DB coaching position.

strong putting together a group of 'brothers'. i like that. seriously though, that would be a nice pick up. gray is probably gone as DC of the titans anyway as his contract expired.

[Kermit]

OrangeBloods reporting Texas and Jerry Gray have had "preliminary" talks about the open DB coaching position.

That would be nice, although he's a bit overqualified for the position.

[benefactor]

OrangeBloods reporting Texas and Jerry Gray have had "preliminary" talks about the open DB coaching position.
Didn't he already say no once iirc?

[rjv]

That would be nice, although he's a bit overqualified for the position.

nothing like rebuilding a resume somewhere else. and he has strong ties to texas so if any move to college would make sense for gray this would be the one (other than a head coaching gig)

[Kermit]

Didn't he already say no once iirc?

He wanted the DC, but Mack offered Manny and threw Jerry a bone by giving him the DB position after Akina left. He was overqualified then, as Munchak gave him the DC job after he was hired by the Titans. Jerry smartly took it and Akina came back.

/Kermit's take on the situation

[Blake]

QB Baker Mayfield discusses why he decided to leave Texas Tech:

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/78697/qa-former-texas-tech-qb-baker-mayfield

That sucks. He's gotten a raw deal.

[TFloss32]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
Hearing #OKState (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23OKState&src=hash)'s great OL coach Joe Wickline is in the mix for #Texas (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23Texas&src=hash) staff. Would be a big coup for Strong to land him.

[TFloss32]

According to OrangeBloods, Jim Jeffcoat is in the mix for the open DL job. He is currently at Colorado.

[Kermit]

According to Jesus, Narduzzi is in the mix for DC? Lol. Does anyone actually pay for that shit?

[TFloss32]

According to Jesus, Narduzzi is in the mix for DC? Lol. Does anyone actually pay for that shit?

Nah, he said at least one head coaching candidate (before Strong was hired) was told by Patterson that he'd want him to take a look at Narduzzi and Morris as coordinators. It will be a shocker if Bedford isn't the defensive coordinator.

[TFloss32]

Just to clarify, DT Poona Ford will be making his official on the 17th (next Friday).

[Mr. Peabody]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
Hearing #OKState (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23OKState&src=hash)'s great OL coach Joe Wickline is in the mix for #Texas (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23Texas&src=hash) staff. Would be a big coup for Strong to land him.

Getting Wickline, Morris, Gray, and Jeffcoat would be amazing for the Longhorns. It would shut up everyone calling out Strong the last few days.

[Hook Em 88]

I'm hopeful that our losses at the DT position for the 2014 class won't remain a huge problem for much longer. We seem to have great opportunity to replace our decommits with solid options. List of who we lost and who we could potentially gain along with their position ranking according to ESPN. Texas DT Decommits:
Trey Lealaimatafao- 4 Star/27th
Zaycoven Henderson- 4 Star/36th
Courtney Garnett- 4 Star/39th
Texas DT Targets:
Poona Ford- 4 Star/23rd
Michael Sawyers- 4 Star/26th
Chris Nelson- 3 Star/75th

[Blake]

Hey I finally get to throw one out:

Tech ripped 4 star CB Nigel Bethel away from Miami.

now if we can just get another four star recruit in the next 5 years or so, we'll be on our way

[Hook Em 88]

DT Poona Ford only one of all to have made ESPN300 at 271st.

[leemajors]

DT Poona Ford only one of all to have made ESPN300 at 271st.

UT badly needs depth. Who gives a shit about the 300 if they can play.

[Bloeddyr10]

24/7 have an update regarding DT Travonte Valentine.

He says his relationship with Strong goes back to Strongs days at Florida. He would like to visit if the dates works out for him.

[Hook Em 88]

UT badly needs depth. Who gives a shit about the 300 if they can play.
I'm not huge on rankings and truly do believe that Coach Strong can develop whoever we have on roster better than the previous staff. Main reason for posting rankings was for those with deep concerns that we did not have legitimate chances with just as good if not better replacements.

[TFloss32]

I was browsing LSU's 24/7 site this morning and saw these notes:

-DT Travonte Valentine of Palm Bay, FL had an official visit to LSU scheduled for the 17th, but has sinced pushed it back to the 24th. He now has the 17th open and is very familiar with Strong and his staff.

-they expect LB Otaro Alaka to ultimately switch his commitement to A&M because he knows their staff well and his sister is currently enrolled there.

-DT Trey Lealaimatafao has a sister at Southern University in Baton Rouge. Because of the family connection, LSU should be a finalist along with Oregon.

[DMX7]

I'm sorry, but after giving consideration to the star rankings the last few years and seeing how things have turned out at Texas, the star rankings just don't mean anything to me anymore. The literally mean absolutely nothing to me. If the kid(s) can play, then get him (or them).

[TFloss32]

24/7 have an update regarding DT Travonte Valentine.

He says his relationship with Strong goes back to Strongs days at Florida. He would like to visit if the dates works out for him.

He may have an open date now for a reason.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods reporting DT Chris Nelson of Lakeland, FL has officially de-committed from Louisville.

[TFloss32]

Stole this from another board. Petrino arrives in Louisville:

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/usecd/pitrino_zps7f5bc448.jpg

[DMX7]

I was browsing LSU's 24/7 site this morning and saw these notes:

-DT Travonte Valentine of Palm Bay, FL had an official visit to LSU scheduled for the 17th, but has sinced pushed it back to the 24th. He now has the 17th open and is very familiar with Strong and his staff.

-they expect LB Otaro Alaka to ultimately switch his commitement to A&M because he knows their staff well and his sister is currently enrolled there.

-DT Trey Lealaimatafao has a sister at Southern University in Baton Rouge. Because of the family connection, LSU should be a finalist along with Oregon.

Valentine >>>> Z. Henderson

Poon > Nelson (but looks like we may land Nelson which is better than nothing)

[DMX7]

-they expect LB Otaro Alaka to ultimately switch his commitement to A&M because he knows their staff well and his sister is currently enrolled there.


I didn't know his sister goes there... looks like I'll be eating crow on that one.

[TFloss32]

I didn't know his sister goes there... looks like I'll be eating crow on that one.

First I had heard of that as well.

I'm sure that was a big reason why he gave them such a hard look before choosing Texas.

[Hook Em 88]

@Ian_A_Boyd: RE Texas potentially hiring Scott Frost: Oregon's offense and system is engrained in the way they run practices there. Up-tempo all the time

[ThePop]

Foster doesn't have any Texas connections.

Also, I wouldn't want to go to school with my sister but that's just me.

[TFloss32]

@Ian_A_Boyd: RE Texas potentially hiring Scott Frost: Oregon's offense and system is engrained in the way they run practices there. Up-tempo all the time

My worries with Frost:

-he's never been an offensive coordinator before 2013

-he was the WRs coach when Kelly was at Oregon. How closely linked is he to that offense?

-like Pop said above, I can't find anything that says he's familiar with Texas recruiting, Midwest guy

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods and 24/7 both saying Chad Morris' buyout is going to be too difficult to work with and we can cross him off the list.

[TFloss32]

24/7 updated their list of coaching candidates for the DL:

Chris Rumph (Alabama)
Oscar Giles (Texas)
Buddy Wyatt (Kansas)
Brick Haley (LSU)
Chris Kiffin (Ole Miss, brother of Lane)

[TFloss32]

@TaylorHamm247
Breaking: Sebastian LaRue has asked Coach Sumlin for his release from Texas A&M and will be transferring. No final destination set

[TFloss32]

Steve Jones ‏@SteveJones_CJ
Poona Ford's coach said he is "extremely disappointed that no one from U of L reached out to him past the 6 days".

[TFloss32]

Max Olson MAX_olson
Five programs ranked top 10 in both pass D and run D from 2010-13: Alabama, LSU, FSU, Michigan St, Louisville.

[Kermit]

OrangeBloods and 24/7 both saying Chad Morris' buyout is going to be too difficult to work with and we can cross him off the list.

I'm guessing that means Chad Morris is going to be our OC.

[The Reckoning]

if i was a high profile recruit i'd be jumping on this bandwagon asap. wtf is wrong with these kids?

[Blake]

I'm sorry, but after giving consideration to the star rankings the last few years and seeing how things have turned out at Texas, the star rankings just don't mean anything to me anymore. The literally mean absolutely nothing to me. If the kid(s) can play, then get him (or them).

I've seen stars taken off and added to players based on where they end up committing to.

[Sisk]

if i was a high profile recruit i'd be jumping on this bandwagon asap. wtf is wrong with these kids?

Not even trying to talk shit, but what bandwagon exactly?

[jefe82]

Not even trying to talk shit, but what bandwagon exactly?

Your sarcasm meter must be broken.

I took the comment to mean the staff is dragging their feet.

[Clipper Nation]

@TaylorHamm247
Breaking: Sebastian LaRue has asked Coach Sumlin for his release from Texas A&M and will be transferring. No final destination set

Another Yates recruit, tbh....

[Phillip]

I've seen stars taken off and added to players based on where they end up committing to.

truth

[TFloss32]

I've seen stars taken off and added to players based on where they end up committing to.

Strong mentioned this concept when talking about recruiting in his introductory press conference. It's easy to say you don't care about stars when you aren't recruiting well (i.e. Texas), but the guy is going to work his ass off to develop what he has.

[Sisk]

Your sarcasm meter must be broken.

I took the comment to mean the staff is dragging their feet.

Ah. Touché.

[The Reckoning]

this process should have started before bowl season imo. they're going to keep losing commits if they don't know who their coaches are.

[DMX7]

this process should have started before bowl season imo. they're going to keep losing commits if they don't know who their coaches are.

Yes, but of course they weren't going to let Mack not evan have a chance to coach the Alamo Bowl... even though we all knew it was a loss.

[TFloss32]

Alabama hires Lane Kiffin for offensive coordinator.

[TFloss32]

24/7 had a source tell them that Kenny Carter is "definitely not going to Texas."

I wonder if Porter is still in the mix for RBs coach? Or could Chambers move back to that position?

[TFloss32]

24/7 also saying Tom Herman of Ohio State is the "hot name" right now for offensive coordinator despite national reports denying that.

They think the new OC will be in place no later than Sunday. That happens to be the day of the first team meeting.

[Hook Em 88]

Jason_Higdon: 4 Star RB will take OV to Texas. Going to be very interesting to track this one...http://t.co/YTKf5H6FuG
Anybody have any knowledge of who this could be?

[Bloeddyr10]

Duane Akina is officially out. He told 24/7 he will look at a couple of college jobs and maybe even the NFL.

Best of luck to him!

[Clipper Nation]

Alabama hires Lane Kiffin for offensive coordinator.
:lmao Bama

[Bloeddyr10]

Both DC Vance Bedford and LB coach Brian Jean-Mary has been added to Texas' online directory.

[TFloss32]

Jason (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6865)_Higdon: 4 Star RB will take OV to Texas. Going to be very interesting to track this one...http://t.co/YTKf5H6FuG
Anybody have any knowledge of who this could be?

Not seeing anyone in the Louisville or Vanderbilt classes who matches that description, unless you count RB/FB Daniel Gresham.

Higdon reports out of Florida so I'm assuming the prospect is in that area of the country.

[TFloss32]

Both DC Vance Bedford and LB coach Brian Jean-Mary has been added to Texas' online directory.

Good to know.

I think they had some minor contract hang-ups to take care of before becoming official.

[TFloss32]

Jason (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6865)_Higdon: 4 Star RB will take OV to Texas. Going to be very interesting to track this one...http://t.co/YTKf5H6FuG
Anybody have any knowledge of who this could be?

It's RB Varshaun Nixon of Lake Travis. Says he wants to look around.

[DMX7]

It's RB Varshaun Nixon of Lake Travis. Says he wants to look around.

He is an Aggie commit at the moment.

[DMX7]

Both DC Vance Bedford and LB coach Brian Jean-Mary has been added to Texas' online directory.

I don't see them. http://www.texassports.com/sports/2013/7/17/FB_0717132218.aspx?path=football

[rjv]

It's RB Varshaun Nixon of Lake Travis. Says he wants to look around.


currently committed to a&m and is the only RB of the current class. maybe he feels that 1) sumlin is pass first and 2) he'll have to redshirt and wait behind other RBs for at least 2 years before he gets a chance. i would say he is certainly capable of committing somewhere else.

[Bloeddyr10]

I don't see them. http://www.texassports.com/sports/2013/7/17/FB_0717132218.aspx?path=football

They are at the utexas.edu website.

http://www.utexas.edu/directory/index.php?q=Bedford&scope=all&i=9

http://www.utexas.edu/directory/index.php?q=Jean-Mary&scope=all&submit=Search

[ColinB]

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[pgardn]

Alabama hires Lane Kiffin for offensive coordinator.

Boy it gets easier to hate Alabama every hour.

[TFloss32]

currently committed to a&m and is the only RB of the current class. maybe he feels that 1) sumlin is pass first and 2) he'll have to redshirt and wait behind other RBs for at least 2 years before he gets a chance. i would say he is certainly capable of committing somewhere else.

Nixon is now saying he won't take visits because he doesn't want to upset the A&M staff, but I think he's actually frustrated that the news leaked. Anyway, what's weird is there was talk that another A&M commitment, DE Qualen Cunningham (Chandler, AZ), would be visiting Austin with him. They were also supposedly lining up a trip to Arizona State. We'll see if it goes anywhere.

[TFloss32]

24/7 mentioned this evening that recruits are actually having to call Texas and Strong right now because Strong's contract has not been officially approved by the Board of Regents. I'm not sure when everything is supposed to be done.

[TFloss32]

Just an FYI that there's a rumor (not from the moderators) on OrangeBloods right now that Strong intends to announce his staff on Monday.

[Harry Callahan]

I saw Nixon play Dallas Jesuit in person in the playoffs and he was pretty darn impressive. Jesuit could not get the guy down on the ground very easily at all.
I wouldn't mind seeing him on the 40 Acres.

[Bloeddyr10]

2015 top QB Josh Rosen from California says he would like to visit Michigan and Texas, but he isn't sure whether he could make those visits fit into his own timeline, per ESPN. They are the only to schools outside of California that he mentions. It seems highly unlikely that he doesn't end up in California.

[pgardn]

I thought our safeties were particularly weak this season. I noticed some top recruit safeties from Texas are already spoken for.

Whats the deal? Is their hope that our current roster contains gems I have not yet seen?

Imo we we were horrible at a spot where an instinctive good tackler/turnover guy can be huge.

[Mr. Peabody]

Burton reporting on Twitter that Herman will remain at OSU. I guess it's Watson for OC.

[Mr. Peabody]

However Orangebloods reporting this morning that he was the front runner.

Saturday

8:40 am - Two
sources this morning told Orangebloods.com Ohio State's Tom Herman
appears to be the frontrunner for the OC job. A third source told OB on
Friday if Herman gets the offer, he will accept. A fourth source told OB
"you'll know something in the next 24 hours."

[bluetrumpet]

Tired of all this back and forth. I want them to start recruiting again

[shyne]

It's gonna be shitty ass Watson.

[Vito Corleone]

It's gonna be shitty ass Watson.

Like i Said, if it's Watson, then Charlie Strong will be at Texas for about 4 seasons and he will be fired. He will be the second coming of David McWilliams all defense and no offense. We already know that Watson can't handle the level of play associated with the Big 12 and if this is Strong's choice then too bad for him.

[Mr. Peabody]

Like i Said, if it's Watson, then Charlie Strong will be at Texas for about 4 seasons and he will be fired. He will be the second coming of David McWilliams all defense and no offense. We already know that Watson can't handle the level of play associated with the Big 12 and if this is Strong's choice then too bad for him.

I've seen where Watson is being considered for some NFL gigs. How bad could he be? He may have progressed since his time at Nebraska.

[rjv]

He's a midterm enrollee so it's going to happen quick. He doesn't have much time to change his mind again.

looks like you were right (and he's already bigger than anyone the ags had on the front four last year once kirby ennis went out with his knee injury)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdp3B8RCMAAqlzK.jpg

[leemajors]

no neck

[Hook Em 88]

@sbterry247: BREAKING. #Alabama DL coach Chris Rumph has accepted a position at Texas.

[bluetrumpet]

Pretty solid DL coach in Rumph?

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

@sbterry247: BREAKING. #Alabama DL coach Chris Rumph has accepted a position at Texas.

That was out of nowhere! I guess its a good hire. Don't know much about him.

[Needs More Bourbon]

Burton said there's a "recruiting nugget" tied to the Rumph hire. Only major Texas recruits he's targeted are Myles Garrett and Solly Thomas, but there are some Florida guys. http://247sports.com/Coach/Chris-Rumph-244/CurrentTargets?Recruitment.Year=2014&OrderBy=Recruitment.PlayerSport.CompositeRating%3A DESC

EDIT: Sounds like it's OLB Christian Miller (http://247sports.com/Player/Christian-Miller-20746)from South Carolina.

[Bloeddyr10]

Burton said there's a "recruiting nugget" tied to the Rumph hire. Only major Texas recruits he's targeted are Myles Garrett and Solly Thomas, but there are some Florida guys. http://247sports.com/Coach/Chris-Rumph-244/CurrentTargets?Recruitment.Year=2014&OrderBy=Recruitment.PlayerSport.CompositeRating%3A DESC

EDIT: Sounds like it's OLB Christian Miller (http://247sports.com/Player/Christian-Miller-20746)from South Carolina.

It is. Rumph was lead recruiter for him and he might want to visit Texas in the near future. Alabama guys says things have been "smoothed out" with him and the Alabama staff.

[Hook Em 88]

@AndrewJBone: Hearing a lot of people in Tuscaloosa surprised by Coach Rumph leaving for #Texas. Longhorns will love him. Great recruiter/coach!

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/333/class/2014

I added this link so we can look at the Defensive lineman that we could possible draw interest from as a result of this hire. I looked at the guys that are already committed to Alabama and those that are considering. The names that stood out to me were DT O.J. Smith of Bossier City, La just from a location standpoint. Then there's DT Matt Elam who is from Elizabethtown, Ky. I know he was considering Alabama strongly along with the University of Kentucky. I'm pretty sure that Coach Strong recruited him and they are familiar by him being from Kentucky. I know he was indecisive at the Army All-America game about his decision and chose to delay his announcement. I don't know where his indecision stems from, could be depth or distance, so maybe Texas looks like a better fit to him at this point. There are some other "pipe dream" guys as well.

[Bloeddyr10]

Christian Miller isn't pleased with Rumph leaving Alabama. Neither is 2015 5-star DE Mekhi Brown and '14 DT Matt Elam seems very surprised.

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[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Anybody have a idea why he left for Texas?

[DMX7]

Anybody have a idea why he left for Texas?

I don't know bro..

[Hook Em 88]

Jason_Higdon: Charlie Strong has hired Chris Vaughn at the CB spot and Tommie Robinson as the RB coach folks.

[Mr. Peabody]

Looks like Robinson was the RB coach at USC after doing the same in the NFL. Vaughn was at Memphis and before that was the DB coach and recruiting coordinator at both Ole Miss and Arkansas.

[Hook Em 88]

@BFeldmanCBS: Charlie Strong has hired Tommie Robinson as #Texas new RB coach, Scout reports. Robinson did a great job w #USC RBs this yr.

[Mr. Peabody]

Robinson and Vaughn are both considered to be great recruiters.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Looks like Coach Strong is well on Schedule to have this coaching staff assembled by Monday as planned. The offensive and Defensice coordinators will be interesting.

[Mr. Peabody]

Wasn't Bedford already hired as DC?

[Vito Corleone]

Great position hires if he does the same at oc Texas will be back, and he will have a long future.

[Mr. Peabody]

None of these guys were mentioned as possibilities on the pay sites.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Wasn't Bedford already hired as DC?

Vance Bedford tweeted yesterday that he hadn't been hired as the DC at Texas and that he was still interviewing.

[Hook Em 88]

Joshnewberg247: Two "wow" hires by #Texas today. Chris Vaughn and Chris Rumph are great additions to Strong's staff. Two potential future head coaches.

[Vito Corleone]

The staff is beginning to remind me of Bob Stoops original staff at Oklahoma, lots of future head coaches.

But I stand by my other statements, Shawn Watson will be the death of him at Texas.

[Mr. Peabody]

Vance Bedford tweeted yesterday that he hadn't been hired as the DC at Texas and that he was still interviewing.

He's listed in the UT staff directory.

[Mr. Peabody]

The staff is beginning to remind me of Bob Stoops original staff at Oklahoma, lots of future head coaches.

But I stand by my other statements, Shawn Watson will be the death of him at Texas.

None of the other hires were predicted by the sites speculating on Watson. Can't see Strong bringing on both his DC and OC from Louisville.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods reporting that OK State OL coach, Joe Wickline, was offered the same position today by Texas and has indicated he will accept.

[TFloss32]

Recap of where the Texas staff sits currently for those who have missed anything:

OC: ---
RB: Tommie Robinson (USC)
WR: ---
TE: Bruce Chambers (Texas)
OL: --- (trending towards Joe Wickline of OK State)

DC: Vance Bedford (Louisville, former Texas DB)
DL: Chris Rumph (Alabama)
LB: Brian Jean-Mary (Louisville)
DB: Chris Vaughn (Memphis)

S&C: Pat Moorer (Louisville)

[TFloss32]

Quotes from 2015 DT Daylon Mack on the hire of Chris Rumph (Inside Texas):

"Yeah, he is a real cool dude," said Mack. "And WOW, that's a HUGE pickup for Texas. He's a real coach."

"He's the best DLine coach out there. He sends guys to the pros all the time, and he's from Bama. That helps," Mack continued.

[TFloss32]

http://insidetexas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1401&d=1389498140

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas saying Oscar Giles is out.

[TFloss32]

For offensive coordinator, the name Lincoln Riley of East Carolina is getting a lot of attention tonight.

He's from the Leach coaching tree:

http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/riley_lincoln00.html

[bluetrumpet]

Is Wyatt out as the WR coach?

[Hook Em 88]

daveBehrAAS: Two former Louisville DT commits now eying #Longhorns Would fill big need after recent defections. http://t.co/Qr8HMnMGAZ #Longhorns
Good read on the Longhorns chances of landing 2 big time DT targets.

[yavozerb]

daveBehrAAS: Two former Louisville DT commits now eying #Longhorns Would fill big need after recent defections. http://t.co/Qr8HMnMGAZ #Longhorns
Good read on the Longhorns chances of landing 2 big time DT targets.

That highlight reel of poona ford is probably one of the sickest I have ever seen..I actually started feeling sorry for the all kids he was blowing up in it.

[Hook Em 88]

Apparently OK State O-Line coach Joe Wickline and Coach Strong have some familiarity with one another as both were grad-assistants at Florida in the 1980's. Hopeful that the connection between the 2 plays in favor of Texas.

[Hook Em 88]

hookemBoard: Joe Wickline To Texas: OL Coach Joe Wickline has accepted the UT OL job, per OB #247Sports

[Bloeddyr10]

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[pgardn]

All these guys better master the early Mack Brown way of sharing ideas with the HS coaches here.
They better send a competent serious contingent to that before school coaches conference, play a little golf, pat some backs, and give some relevant ideas on producing good FB players on the HS level without being high handed.

We need to turn this HS goal mine back towards staying in state, not going to the SEC. This worries me. John Macovic completely lost recruiting on this level. We need those east Texas stars considering Austin again.

[pgardn]

For christsakes we got Austin. This is not Baton Rouge, College Station, Tuscaloosa... We have a head start, use it.

[yavozerb]

All these guys better master the early Mack Brown way of sharing ideas with the HS coaches here.
They better send a competent serious contingent to that before school coaches conference, play a little golf, pat some backs, and give some relevant ideas on producing good FB players on the HS level without being high handed.

We need to turn this HS goal mine back towards staying in state, not going to the SEC. This worries me. John Macovic completely lost recruiting on this level. We need those east Texas stars considering Austin again.

The beauty of this coaching staff is that TX is only a piece of the recruting puzzle. Brown had to rely 99.9% on texas recruits and it appears Strong has assembled guys who can recruit all over the country.

[ThePop]

None of these guys were mentioned as possibilities on the pay sites.

That's because the paysites have lost their sources. Burton's source was Mack and he's gone.

[pgardn]

The beauty of this coaching staff is that TX is only a piece of the recruting puzzle. Brown had to rely 99.9% on texas recruits and it appears Strong has assembled guys who can recruit all over the country.

Thats a plus. But not getting the top kids in Texas, especially East Texas, is troubling. We know that some are raised on ATM and we don't have a chance. But the infiltration of Alabama and LSU... That's got to change.

[Bloeddyr10]

New DB coach Chris Vaughn will handle most of the Special Teams duties as well as coaching DB's, per 24/7.

[Vito Corleone]

All these guys better master the early Mack Brown way of sharing ideas with the HS coaches here.
They better send a competent serious contingent to that before school coaches conference, play a little golf, pat some backs, and give some relevant ideas on producing good FB players on the HS level without being high handed.

We need to turn this HS goal mine back towards staying in state, not going to the SEC. This worries me. John Macovic completely lost recruiting on this level. We need those east Texas stars considering Austin again.

Agree on the first part, completely disagree on the MacII part.

Before Brown came aboard, John Macovich was probably the best recruiter Texas ever had, the year before he was fired his recruiting class had Quintin Jammer, Kasey Hampton, Kwame Cavil, Leonard Davis, Hodges Mitchell, and Shaun Rodgers. That is a pretty damn good recruiting class.

MacII was an arrogant prick to the BMA and that is what ultimately got his ass fired, well that and the fact that he couldn't coach defense to save his life. He preferred wine and cheese over beer and pretzels and that again put a riff between him and the alumni. But as far as relations go with the high schools he wasn't anywhere near as bad as Fred Akers was at treating the high school coaches like crap. Of course he wasn't anywhere close to being as good as Mack Brown was either.

[TFloss32]

The first team meeting is today at 5 p.m.

[pgardn]

Agree on the first part, completely disagree on the MacII part.

Before Brown came aboard, John Macovich was probably the best recruiter Texas ever had, the year before he was fired his recruiting class had Quintin Jammer, Kasey Hampton, Kwame Cavil, Leonard Davis, Hodges Mitchell, and Shaun Rodgers. That is a pretty damn good recruiting class.

MacII was an arrogant prick to the BMA and that is what ultimately got his ass fired, well that and the fact that he couldn't coach defense to save his life. He preferred wine and cheese over beer and pretzels and that again put a riff between him and the alumni. But as far as relations go with the high schools he wasn't anywhere near as bad as Fred Akers was at treating the high school coaches like crap. Of course he wasn't anywhere close to being as good as Mack Brown was either.

Which is basically what was implied.

No way, no way Macovich recruited well after the beginning. We did not have a good slew of defensive recruits like MackI and JM was a prick to the HS coaches. The guy was completely aloof. He was one guy that was a horrible fit, good offensive coach but horrible fit. He also tried to force feed race relations and made it worse among the players. The kids play a major role in this, he tried to cram guys together that would not like each other no matter what color they were. Clueless about kids.

[pgardn]

It should also be noted that some HS coaches completely lose their seniors after the season because they don't give a damn about the kid except being on camera when "their" kid signs. But a significant number keep their kids loyal all the way through and the HS coach actually cares about the kid and his college experience. These are the coaches the recruiters need to have good relations with.

[Bloeddyr10]

24/7 reports the Joe Wickline hire as well now.

[Bloeddyr10]

A radio guy from Alabama, Clint Gannon, says that Texas and Alabama are in a bidding war for Ed Orgeron. I guess Alabama wants him as a DL coach and Gannon says that Texas wants him as an assistant head coach and recruiting coordinator. I don't see how it matches up numbers wise. Texas has 6 of it's 9 assistants in place and needs a TE coach (some says Chambers will be retained) a WR coach and QB coach/offensive coordinator. The only way I can see it fits is if the WR coach (Wyatt preferably) and Wickline will share the TE coaching.

I don't know that Gannon guy or his credibility, but thought it was worth posting.

[TFloss32]

Anyone feel like Wyatt might be the OC? Or at least co-OC with possibly Wickline?

He's the one guy most people felt would be retained and we haven't heard word on him yet.

[Kermit]

Anyone feel like Wyatt might be the OC? Or at least co-OC with possibly Wickline?

He's the one guy most people felt would be retained and we haven't heard word on him yet.

Oh god!!!!! If that's the case, Strong will be gone in four years!

/just getting it out of the way

[TFloss32]

Great interview with Duane Akina after leaving Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_wVJyfV-fI

[TFloss32]

This was before Wickline was official:

Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch
Charlie Strong makes 3 absolutely massive hires, which makes Texas the early frontrunner for best offseason

[TFloss32]

Longhorn Scoop ‏@LonghornScoop (https://twitter.com/LonghornScoop)
HUGE news from Texas could happen at any moment regarding coaching staff. When we say HUGE, we mean HUGE. Let's just leave it at… #HookEm (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HookEm&src=hash)


Longhorn Scoop ‏@LonghornScoop (https://twitter.com/LonghornScoop)
Texas has found their man. Who? We can't let the cat out of the bag just yet. Frost? Riley? Morris? None of the above? Just wait and see.

[DMX7]

I'm being told from a level one source that the news is awesomely hugely epic.

[bluebellmaniac]

I'm being told from a level one source that the news is awesomely hugely epic.

It's all clear now. It has all been smoke and mirrors up to now. It has been an intricate ruse so as to give the power players behind the scenes time to negotiate and finalize the real hire. They are in fact about to reveal that the actual HC of the Texas Longhorns will be none other than THE Nick Saban...

[Trill Clinton]

mack brown will be retained as OC

[yavozerb]

I would be happy with morris..Chucky the sequel as OC..lol

[TFloss32]

Oh, glorious day.

@jeff_maddog
Blessed with 16 great years on the 40 Acres. Grateful for all the Great Players, Coaches, Staff & FANS!!!#HookEmHorns

[Kermit]

Oh, glorious day.

@jeff_maddog
Blessed with 16 great years on the 40 Acres. Grateful for all the Great Players, Coaches, Staff & FANS!!!#HookEmHorns
Was that the big news?

[benefactor]

Was that the big news?
Nah...we already knew he was history.

[DMX7]

It's all clear now. It has all been smoke and mirrors up to now. It has been an intricate ruse so as to give the power players behind the scenes time to negotiate and finalize the real hire. They are in fact about to reveal that the actual HC of the Texas Longhorns will be none other than THE Nick Saban...

God damn smoke screen for the ages.

[ThePop]

God damn smoke screen for the ages.

Shit why did I ever doubt Michael Jordan?