2014 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[bluebellmaniac]

Shit why did I ever doubt Michael Jordan?
It will also be revealed that the ST personality of Michael Jordan, was in fact Nick Saban as well...

[Mr. Peabody]

Per OB, no offensive coordinator was named at the team meeting

[benefactor]

Well that's good to hear. At least they are taking their time and making sure they get the right guy.

[TFloss32]

@max_olson:
Source: Shawn Watson was introduced as Texas QB coach in team meeting tonight. OC has yet to be named.

[Kermit]

@max_olson:
Source: Shawn Watson was introduced as Texas QB coach in team meeting tonight. OC has yet to be named.
Doomed.

[TFloss32]

@ChetMoss
Inspiring introduction to the team just now by Coach Strong. Love the intensity!! He's just what we need to get to where we want to go.

[TFloss32]

Talk right now is Darrell Wyatt has not been retained.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Doomed.

You think he is that bad, to the point that he'll be a cancer to the team even if he isn't the OC?

[Vito Corleone]

@max_olson:
Source: Shawn Watson was introduced as Texas QB coach in team meeting tonight. OC has yet to be named.

No, I never said Shawn Watson was a bad QB coach, I never considered him in that capacity, I said he was a horrible offensive coordinator and I stand by that.

Greg Davis >>>>> Shawn Watson

And I hate Greg Davis.

But QB coach is the one spot I'm okay with Watson seeing what he did with Teddy Bridgewater.

I will continue to say this. Offensive Coordinator is the most important hire Charlie Strong can do right now, he needs a perceived home run, and nothing short will do. We need a guy that will stick around for a few years and can run an offense that will attract elite QBs, receivers, and running backs.

I've explained why I feel this way, but will say it again. Charlie Strong is a defensive mastermind, he can coach defense better than most elite level head coaches, it's why he has gotten to this point. But he is completely dependent upon having a Offensive Coordinator that can run the show on that side of the ball, a co-head coach for offense.

I would have said these same words if Art Briles was our head coach, except I would have said it about his DC.

Now if Shawn Watson is our QB coach, then I'm happy with the choice, but the guy would be in over his head if he were hired as OC, history has proven that. I will say this; of every confirmed hire, (every one to this point) has (in my opinion) been fantastic. But just like GDGD was an anchor around Mack's neck, so will the OC be if the wrong guy is hired by Charlie Strong.

[BlueTiger]

UL gave the boot to Daniel Gresham... Made me laugh

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

UL gave the boot to Daniel Gresham... Made me laugh

They pulled his Scholly!!?

[BlueTiger]

yup https://twitter.com/jeffgreer_cj/status/422535686202621952/photo/1

[Mr. Peabody]

UL gave the boot to Daniel Gresham... Made me laugh

I wonder if Strong takes him again

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Lol.. Damn. It wouldn't be so funny if I thought he would have trouble getting another scholarship but he should be fine. A scholarship is very valuable but I doubt he would have stayed committed anyway with Strong leaving. What do u think guys, would u mind Coach Strong offering him??

[jefe82]

Lol.. Damn. It wouldn't be so funny if I thought he would have trouble getting another scholarship but he should be fine. A scholarship is very valuable but I doubt he would have stayed committed anyway with Strong leaving. What do u think guys, would u mind Coach Strong offering him??

Fuck him. Reap what you sow motherfucker.

[BlueTiger]

I dont see him as a difference maker on the field. Dont want or need him.

[TFloss32]

Talk right now is Darrell Wyatt has not been retained.

Inside Texas saying Wyatt is indeed out, so that leaves an OC and WRs coaching vacany.

Just thinking out loud, but both Lincoln Riley (East Carolina) and Scott Frost (Oregon) fill both voids.

[Kermit]

Inside Texas saying Wyatt is indeed out, so that leaves an OC and WRs coaching vacany.

Just thinking out loud, but both Lincoln Riley (East Carolina) and Scott Frost (Oregon) fill both voids.
So does Joker Phillips.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Fuck him. Reap what you sow motherfucker.

Haha.. Yeah, I don't want him back either if I had the choice but remember that these recruits are still only kids at the end of the day. Most of their actions and decisions are a reflection of their parents.

[jefe82]

Haha.. Yeah, I don't want him back either if I had the choice but remember that these recruits are still only kids at the end of the day. Most of their actions and decisions are a reflection of their parents.

They're only kids to you and Mack Brown. To everyone else, they are young men who should be learning how the real world operates instead of being coddled.

[TFloss32]

So does Joker Phillips.

Yep. Forgot about him.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

They're only kids to you and Mack Brown. To everyone else, they are young men who should be learning how the real world operates instead of being coddled.

Well I'm ok with a difference of opinion. I just remember being a senior in high school and being recruited. Coaches would call all the time, some would flat out lie about playing time or whatever they thought u wanted to hear. Then some would take a different route and swear that their school is the best ever with the best looking women on earth. I was so ignorant to what I know now. Made a lot of decision that I look back on today and admit that I shouldn't have made. I don't think any 17year old should be coddled, but there should be some consideration taken according to the maturity level at that age.

[Ballin42]

Damn I want to know who our OC is!! They just need to spend the money and get Morris... I played against his Lake Travis team with GG, the dudes offense is freakish... We just need to spend the money, he knows texas and would be a great addition!

[DMX7]

Inside Texas saying Wyatt is indeed out, so that leaves an OC and WRs coaching vacany.

Just thinking out loud, but both Lincoln Riley (East Carolina) and Scott Frost (Oregon) fill both voids.

jose canseco is a possible candidate. it would be a consulation prize for not landing the head coaching gig, but a prize none-the-less.

[DesignatedT]

http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/charlie-strong-black-is-new-brown-t-shirt.jpg

[Sisk]

http://gamedayr.com/sports/texas-charlie-strong-black-is-the-new-brown-t-shirt-94515/#

For the above.. I guess it's already been taken down. Hopefully that was a joke

[Hook Em 88]

ginamizell: After multiple reports, Joe Wickline confirms to me that he's headed to Texas #OKState http://t.co/1XC53ZlQyU
Good read on Coach Wickline's decision to join the Longhorns new coaching staff.

[Bloeddyr10]

One guy I know has been mentioned earlier as a potential OC is Noel Mazzone from UCLA. As far as I can see, he's the only one of the "top" OC's with a history of coaching receivers. He coaches receivers at Colorado State back in the 80's and for the New York Jets from 2006 to 2008. If Strong and Texas wants a OC/WR he would be my top target. He coached at TCU from 1987-1991. It's long time ago but it's still some kind of ties to the state.

[TFloss32]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
Saw reports saying that Ed Orgeron is expected to join #Bama (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23Bama&src=hash) staff.. I am pretty sure that's NOT gonna happen. Never was.

[TFloss32]

A note to file away...24/7 mentioned after the first team meeting last night that there are probably "8 to 12 guys" who won't make it to opening weekend for one reason or another.

[TFloss32]

The Board of Regents has a 10 a.m. conference call this morning to finalize Strong's contract.

[Needs More Bourbon]

And Watson as QB coach, correct?

[TFloss32]

Jason Higdon ‏@Jason_Higdon
@thelonghorns12 @scoutrecruiting everyone needs to be patient. Will not be much longer on the OC and I promise its worth the wait.

[TFloss32]

And Watson as QB coach, correct?

Yes, my mistake. I'll re-post.

[TFloss32]

Recap of where the Texas staff sits currently for those who have missed anything:

OC: ---
QB: Shawn Watson (Louisville)
RB: Tommie Robinson (USC)
WR: ---
TE: Bruce Chambers (Texas)
OL: Joe Wickline (OK State)

DC: Vance Bedford (Louisville, former Texas DB)
DL: Chris Rumph (Alabama)
LB: Brian Jean-Mary (Louisville)
DB: Chris Vaughn (Memphis)

S&C: Pat Moorer (Louisville)

[TFloss32]

Recap of where the Texas staff sits currently for those who have missed anything:

OC: ---
QB: Shawn Watson (Louisville)
RB: Tommie Robinson (USC)
WR: ---
TE: Bruce Chambers (Texas)
OL: Joe Wickline (OK State)

DC: Vance Bedford (Louisville, former Texas DB)
DL: Chris Rumph (Alabama)
LB: Brian Jean-Mary (Louisville)
DB: Chris Vaughn (Memphis)

S&C: Pat Moorer (Louisville)

Worth mentioning it's unclear at this time if Chambers will be a position coach, so we could be waiting on another guy besides the OC. He may have remained on staff strictly as a recruiting coordinator and continuing the work that Suddes was doing before being let go. I'll leave him at TEs for now.

[Vito Corleone]

Another rumor out there is that Applewhite might be moved to Suddens old position, first I've heard of this. Any other rumors on where Applewhite might end up? For all his issues as a OC, he is a heck of a recruiter and should land on his feet.

[TFloss32]

Strong's contract is official.

[the chronic]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/902/1505195.gif

[benefactor]

:lol

[TFloss32]

Love that GIF.

Hopefully that becomes a reality. Got work to do.

[Vito Corleone]

It's being reported that Dish network will pick up the SEC network.

[TFloss32]

Saw a tweet that DE Solomon Thomas did get accepted to Stanford.

He should visit Austin before making a final decision, but don't get your hopes up.

[TFloss32]

24/7 reporting 2015 ATH KeKe Coutee of Lufkin de-committed last week.

[Ballin42]

He sucks anyways... I live in Lufkin and watched him play, he takes a lot of plays off

[Kermit]

It's being reported that Dish network will pick up the SEC network.

Yeah, that's not a suprise. I'm pretty sure that all cable companies will carry that network.

[DMX7]

Strong's contract is official.

SMOKESCREEN!!!

[DMX7]

Yeah, that's not a suprise. I'm pretty sure that all cable companies will carry that network.

Eventually maybe... but TWC held out for years on NFL Network.

[playblair]

Another rumor out there is that Applewhite might be moved to Suddens old position, first I've heard of this. Any other rumors on where Applewhite might end up? For all his issues as a OC, he is a heck of a recruiter and should land on his feet.

:nope

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[lolwat]

:nope 409441600410906624

144 receptions - 2753 yards - 24 touchdowns

Not exactly impressive over a 4 year career...

[DMX7]

144 receptions - 2753 yards - 24 touchdowns

Not exactly impressive over a 4 year career...

Not TEXAS Good, that's for sure.

[TFloss32]

Concerning the offensive coordinator announcement...

Jason Higdon ‏@Jason_Higdon
will not be today imo so rest easy. Sit back and relax my friend. Staff hits the road Thursday in full force.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying 2015 ATH KeKe Coutee will be at one of Texas' Junior Days.

[DMX7]

Concerning the offensive coordinator announcement...

Jason Higdon ‏@Jason_Higdon
will not be today imo so rest easy. Sit back and relax my friend. Staff hits the road Thursday in full force.

Smokescreen!

Nick Saban will be revealed as the new head coach on Wed.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods reporting Missouri OC Josh Henson is no longer in the mix.

[Needs More Bourbon]

There was speculation on Shaggy that Chad Morris' buyout dropped after Jan. 12. If they're not waiting on an NFL guy, that could be another explanation for the delay.

[TFloss32]

FWIW, Inside Texas saying a coach who was a candidate for the OC job thinks Lincoln Riley of East Carolina will be the ultimate choice.

[TFloss32]

There was speculation on Shaggy that Chad Morris' buyout dropped after Jan. 12. If they're not waiting on an NFL guy, that could be another explanation for the delay.

Not ruling anything out at this point because Strong has done such a nice job of keeping info within his circle. It's pretty obvious that nobody has a true feel for what's happening. Assuming Morris is who they're waiting on, the Vanderbilt opening could be another reason for the delay. That needs to be settled as well.

[Kermit]

There was speculation on Shaggy that Chad Morris' buyout dropped after Jan. 12. If they're not waiting on an NFL guy, that could be another explanation for the delay.

January 12th....







2015.

[TFloss32]

January 12th....

2015.

I have an article on Morris' buyout open on my computer and hadn't read it before answering Bourbon.

His buyout drops 25% in 2015 but that's still a shit ton of money.

[Needs More Bourbon]

January 12th....

2015.

Right, but the reasoning is that he's completed one more year as of Jan. 12, so that's one less year he has to compensate Clemson for. In other words, it's a difference of $1.3 million.


According to the contract, if Morris leaves to accept a position as an assistant coach or coordinator from 2012-2014, he must pay Clemson a buyout equal to the sum of his annual total compensation multiplied by the years remaining on his contract.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying DT Travonte Valentine of Palm Bay, FL will be officially visiting Texas and possibly this weekend.

http://247sports.com/Player/Travonte-Valentine-21006

[Vito Corleone]

24/7 saying DT Travonte Valentine of Palm Bay, FL will be officially visiting Texas and possibly this weekend.

http://247sports.com/Player/Travonte-Valentine-21006

This year there are 3 holidays represented by DTs, travonte Valentine, DeShawn Washington, and Demarcus Christmas. Any Lincoln or Kings? How about a Chavez or a Holloween I might have missed?

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Details of Coach Strong's Contract:

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1597182

[TFloss32]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBSRT
@sbterry247 (https://twitter.com/sbterry247): Breaking: Per @TimWatts_BOL (https://twitter.com/TimWatts_BOL) of @BamaOnline247 (https://twitter.com/BamaOnline247), barring unforeseen circumstances, Bo Davis to be next #Alabama (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Alabama&src=hash) DL coach

[rkell87]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBSRT
@sbterry247 (https://twitter.com/sbterry247): Breaking: Per @TimWatts_BOL (https://twitter.com/TimWatts_BOL) of @BamaOnline247 (https://twitter.com/BamaOnline247), barring unforeseen circumstances, Bo Davis to be next #Alabama (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Alabama&src=hash) DL coach
swapsies

[DMX7]

24/7 saying DT Travonte Valentine of Palm Bay, FL will be officially visiting Texas and possibly this weekend.

http://247sports.com/Player/Travonte-Valentine-21006

Awesome.

[TFloss32]

@schadjoe
Stanford DC Derek Mason interviews with Vanderbilt middle of this week

[TFloss32]

@BDavisAAS
Interesting thing here. Charlie Strong has no buyout at Texas. STATesman

[TFloss32]

Any guesses who UT wants?

Matt Clare ‏@MattClareRivals 6m
#TexasTech commit hearing from the new staff at UT, update on RedRaiders (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9963)ports -

http://texastech.247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/Commits

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Any guesses who UT wants?

Matt Clare ‏@MattClareRivals 6m
#TexasTech commit hearing from the new staff at UT, update on RedRaiders (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9963)ports -

http://texastech.247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/Commits

Im thinking a DB or LB.

My guess would be Payton Hendrix.

[yavozerb]

Any guesses who UT wants?

Matt Clare ‏@MattClareRivals 6m
#TexasTech commit hearing from the new staff at UT, update on RedRaiders (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9963)ports -

http://texastech.247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/Commits

I hope its Justin Stockton of steele.

[Blake]

I hope its Justin Stockton of steele.

Lol ut has running backs.

You should be getting on your knees praying it's QB Mahomes.

[BlueTiger]

Lol ut has running backs. You should be getting on your knees praying it's QB Mahomes. I was just about to say that. Mahomes is so underrated in my opinion. He's a steal for Tech.

[TFloss32]

24/7 mentioning Chambers is trying hard to get S Jah'Shawn Johnson of Ennis on campus, so it's probably him. Hendrix is legit too.

http://247sports.com/Player/JahShawn-Johnson-28248

[yavozerb]

Lol ut has running backs.

You should be getting on your knees praying it's QB Mahomes.

lol if you think he will get all his snaps at rb but I get your pt about the rb depth. Kid should be listed as an athlete cause he will spend time at wr, kr,pr....

[Blake]

I was just about to say that. Mahomes is so underrated in my opinion. He's a steal for Tech.

Kliff knows this. He's been hugging his nuts from day 1.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying S Jah'Shawn Johnson of Ennis basically has an unofficial offer from Texas at this point.

Sounds like Strong needs to approve it and/or Johnson needs to make a trip to campus.

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, S Jah'Shawn Johnson of Ennis will be visiting this weekend.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Per OrangeBloods, S Jah'Shawn Johnson of Ennis will be visiting this weekend.

His Film is nice. Looks like a honey Badger out there:

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/rivals-spotlight-jahshawn-johnson-160100870.html

[Vito Corleone]

A poster on OB says there is a press conference for tomorrow to announce the new OC

[Spursfan092120]

OrangeBloods saying DT Poona Ford will be in Austin on the 21st, 24/7 saying the 17th.
THAT's the guy I want to steal..

[Spursfan092120]

His Film is nice. Looks like a honey Badger out there:

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/rivals-spotlight-jahshawn-johnson-160100870.html
His speed looks ridiculous.

[Spursfan092120]

A poster on OB says there is a press conference for tomorrow to announce the new OC
Kyle Shanahan, maybe?

[Vito Corleone]

Kyle Shanahan actually makes a lot of sense. I don't watch the NFL, Is he any good?

[pgardn]

Awesome.

338 pounds of awesome.

I see a diet in his future.

[pgardn]

Kyle Shanahan actually makes a lot of sense. I don't watch the NFL, Is he any good?

Some might say he almost killed RGIII by even thinking about calling pass plays.

[rjv]

Kyle Shanahan actually makes a lot of sense. I don't watch the NFL, Is he any good?

i've never been impressed by shanahan in the pros.

[benefactor]

Baby Shanny did well while he was in Houston. I really hated to see him go, as did many Texans fans. He moved up through the ranks quickly even though he was young. Houston had the #1 passing offense in the league under him in 2009 and Schaub had his best year as a QB...throwing for over 4700 yds. Hard to judge him by what happened in Washington...that whole thing was a disaster from the beginning because RGKnee is just not a good QB and Snyder was trying to build a team around him.

He would be a fantastic hire.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying DT Travonte Valentine will be visiting Austin this weekend.

[TFloss32]

Per 24/7, UT was in contact with 2015 RB Jacques Patrick of Orlando, FL recently and an offer should be coming soon:

http://247sports.com/Player/Jacques-Patrick-19323

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/784233/#highlights/117857375

[DMX7]

OrangeBloods saying DT Travonte Valentine will be visiting Austin this weekend.

LSU is supposedly the team to beat though.

[TFloss32]

RB Corey Avery of Dallas Carter will be in Austin this weekend, per OrangeBloods. Says he will commit if offered.

http://247sports.com/Player/Corey-Avery-19489

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78jNlB04LCg

[TFloss32]

Speaking of Avery, I read on 24/7 yesterday that Texas will honor ATH Kevin Shorter's scholarshp but that the current medical staff will not clear him to play because of his spinal cord injury.

[Hook Em 88]

bobbyBurton247: Source close to Mike Groh says Groh would not come to Texas solely as WR coach.

Groh is currently the WR's coach for the Chicago Bears.

[Vito Corleone]

bobbyBurton247: Source close to Mike Groh says Groh would not come to Texas solely as WR coach.

Groh is currently the WR's coach for the Chicago Bears.

Maybe he will have the title passing game coordinator.

[Bloeddyr10]

423172233935073280

Potential flip candidate if Neal gets the job?

[Needs More Bourbon]

Good call. Any possible flip candidates with Pruitt taking the UGA gig? I'll check to see whom Strong's staff recruited when I get to my computer.

[TFloss32]

423172233935073280

Potential flip candidate if Neal gets the job?

To end up with Springs and J. Johnson would be a sick upgrade.

[TFloss32]

24/7 reporting Wickline has offered OG Alex Anderson of New Orleans, LA. Because he's a spring semester enrollee, they're trying to get an official visit set up ASAP. He's currently committed to Arizona State.

http://247sports.com/Player/Alex-Anderson-30018

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/2186645/#highlights/96509377

[Kermit]

Barking Carnival on culture change and accountability in the program. I like this Coach Strong fellow already.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2014/1/14/5308182/culture-change-at-texas

[TFloss32]

OG Alex Anderson...:wow

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/r/19/190fcba1b8dfc0df09d3a03c25f297fe/332699.jpg

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Doesn't look 300 lbs, which is good. His highlight film is sick. Almost every play is a pancake.

[Thompson]

In the final 247 rankings, A&M has the #1 player in the nation (weak-side defensive end Myles Garrett), the #1 quarterback (Kyle Allen), and the #1 wide receiver (Speedy Noil). Ranked #1, 5 and 6 in the nation, respectively. http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Bleacher Report is reporting that Myles Garrett, who is committed to A&M, has jumped 7 spots to top Leonard Fournette for the top recruit nationally according to 247sports. They are crediting this big of a jump to his outstanding senior season and his performance in the All-American game.

[TFloss32]

Pete Roussel @ CoachingSearch.com
Per source, Alabama A&M head strength coach James Hester is heading to the University of Texas as an assistant.

[Hook Em 88]

HouseOfSparky: ASU Football Recruiting: Offensive line commit Alex Anderson de-commits, #ASU still a possible landing spot http://t.co/OWlAYmKmQl

According to this article OL Alex Anderson decommited from ASU and considered switching his pledge to OK State only to hold off with the intent of making a final decision between both schools. Appears that the Wickline connection may gain us our second commit of the Charlie Strong era.

[TFloss32]

In the final 247 rankings, A&M has the #1 player in the nation (weak-side defensive end Myles Garrett), the #1 quarterback (Kyle Allen), and the #1 wide receiver (Speedy Noil). Ranked #1, 5 and 6 in the nation, respectively. http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

Difficult to recruit better than they are right now.

I think Allen could start as a true frosh over Hill.

[Thompson]

I think Allen could start as a true frosh over Hill.

I'm hoping he does; I think it would give us a better shot at Kyler Murray (A&M legacy).

[TFloss32]

House (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14392)OfSparky: ASU Football Recruiting: Offensive line commit Alex Anderson de-commits, #ASU still a possible landing spot http://t.co/OWlAYmKmQl

According to this article OL Alex Anderson decommited from ASU and considered switching his pledge to OK State only to hold off with the intent of making a final decision between both schools. Appears that the Wickline connection may gain us our second commit of the Charlie Strong era.

Hmmm...his 24/7 profile still has him listed as an ASU commitment.

They also have him taking an official to Texas this weekend, so hopefully that's accurate.

[TFloss32]

I'm hoping he does; I think it would give us a better shot at Kyler Murray (A&M legacy).

That one is in the bag for A&M already, imo.

[Thompson]

I sure hope so; appreciate any info you find in the future.

[Clipper Nation]

In the final 247 rankings, A&M has the #1 player in the nation (weak-side defensive end Myles Garrett), the #1 quarterback (Kyle Allen), and the #1 wide receiver (Speedy Noil). Ranked #1, 5 and 6 in the nation, respectively. http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

Wonder how Aggy will manage to choke and disappoint with those guys, tbh :lol

[Blake]

Barking Carnival on culture change and accountability in the program. I like this Coach Strong fellow already.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2014/1/14/5308182/culture-change-at-texas

Sounds like Tuberville when he arrived at Tech. He just never fit there.

[Kermit]

Sounds like Tuberville when he arrived at Tech. He just never fit there.
Well, Leach wasn't a coddler. In fact, not coddling got him fired. I think I speak for a large majority of our fan base when I say this is a welcome change.

[Bloeddyr10]

Pete Roussel @ CoachingSearch.com
Per source, Alabama A&M head strength coach James Hester is heading to the University of Texas as an assistant.

I don't know anything about him, but this is plain awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hm5Cs3H7a0&feature=player_embedded

[TFloss32]

From ATH Kevin Shorter...

@Xx_QuickSix_xX
@JermichaelF88 My name is kevin shorter Im from Newton Texas got the same injury you had the same week and now I can't play football anymore

[TFloss32]

I sure hope so; appreciate any info you find in the future.

Sure. We'll hear much more about him this year as he'll be a senior.

I wouldn't worry about this one unless A&M has some major shake-up or completely falls off.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

House (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14392)OfSparky: ASU Football Recruiting: Offensive line commit Alex Anderson de-commits, #ASU still a possible landing spot http://t.co/OWlAYmKmQl

According to this article OL Alex Anderson decommited from ASU and considered switching his pledge to OK State only to hold off with the intent of making a final decision between both schools. Appears that the Wickline connection may gain us our second commit of the Charlie Strong era.

I'll take that all day. Kid looks legit.

[Blake]

Well, Leach wasn't a coddler. In fact, not coddling got him fired. I think I speak for a large majority of our fan base when I say this is a welcome change.

No doubt.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying Strong and staff will have an in-home visit with DE Solomon Thomas on Thursday.

[Needs More Bourbon]

Difficult to recruit better than they are right now.

I think Allen could start as a true frosh over Hill.

Agreed on Allen; he was very impressive in the Army All-American Bowl. On the recruiting, it's wild how different the perception of the programs seems to be despite the fact that we had only one more loss this year. I expect Strong to make up some ground.

[Clipper Nation]

Aggy defensive GA Kyle Ward is moving over to Boise State for this season.... should help even more with Boise's Texas recruiting, tbh....

[pgardn]

In the final 247 rankings, A&M has the #1 player in the nation (weak-side defensive end Myles Garrett), the #1 quarterback (Kyle Allen), and the #1 wide receiver (Speedy Noil). Ranked #1, 5 and 6 in the nation, respectively. http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

So this is on the Texas recruiting thread? You expect them to flip to Austin?

[DMX7]

24/7 saying Strong and staff will have an in-home visit with DE Solomon Thomas on Thursday.

Nice, but is he also taking a visit?

[DMX7]

So this is on the Texas recruiting thread? You expect them to flip to Austin?

No, he just wanted us to know. not sure why A&M doesn't have its own thread.

[KTA]

No, he just wanted us to know. not sure why A&M doesn't have its own thread.

They do, I created it just for them....and they are still here

[Sisk]

No, he just wanted us to know. not sure why A&M doesn't have its own thread.


They do, I created it just for them....and they are still here

How many times has this been discussed? I have asked TFloss directly if it bothers him when Aggies post here and he has said no. If it does, I am sure the other few Aggies on this board wouldn't mind abiding by his wishes, considering he's not an idiot like some of you.. This is his thread, after all. We target the same guys so a lot of news is directly relevant to both schools. Posts like Thompson's probably aren't necessary, I agree, but many times it is relevant.

[Sisk]

Barking Carnival on culture change and accountability in the program. I like this Coach Strong fellow already.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2014/1/14/5308182/culture-change-at-texas

Is this real/reliable info? I actually like some of the rules, but some of them seem a bit out there.

[Kermit]

Is this real/reliable info? I actually like some of the rules, but some of them seem a bit out there.

I'm pretty sure it's legit. It was all over the fucking place this afternoon. Also jives with his stint at Louisville. He don't take no mess.

[Spursfan092120]

In the final 247 rankings, A&M has the #1 player in the nation (weak-side defensive end Myles Garrett), the #1 quarterback (Kyle Allen), and the #1 wide receiver (Speedy Noil). Ranked #1, 5 and 6 in the nation, respectively. http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
Speedy Noil is a bad man.

[Spursfan092120]

From ATH Kevin Shorter...

@Xx_QuickSix_xX
@JermichaelF88 My name is kevin shorter Im from Newton Texas got the same injury you had the same week and now I can't play football anymore
fuuuuu.....I hope he's exaggerating.

[KTA]

How many times has this been discussed? I have asked TFloss directly if it bothers him when Aggies post here and he has said no. If it does, I am sure the other few Aggies on this board wouldn't mind abiding by his wishes, considering he's not an idiot like some of you.. This is his thread, after all. We target the same guys so a lot of news is directly relevant to both schools. Posts like Thompson's probably aren't necessary, I agree, but many times it is relevant.

Ok TFloss thinks its fine, but the rest of us hate it...mosey on along

[Thompson]

So this is on the Texas recruiting thread? You expect them to flip to Austin?

This was the post made seconds after mine, by a Texas fan, on the 'Texas recruiting thread':


Bleacher Report is reporting that Myles Garrett, who is committed to A&M, has jumped 7 spots to top Leonard Fournette for the top recruit nationally according to 247sports. They are crediting this big of a jump to his outstanding senior season and his performance in the All-American game.

This thread tends to cover recruits for both schools - often (at least in the past, and I expect at times in the future), both schools will compete for the same recruits. And we don't have a TFloss. If it bothers you that much, ignore my posts. No need to be so sensitive - obviously other Texas fans think it's at least somewhat relevant.

[leemajors]

Ok TFloss thinks its fine, but the rest of us hate it...mosey on along

It's fine with me, and usually pretty relevant. Scroll along

[benefactor]

I don't mind it as a whole. Now if all of the Aggie info was like Thompson where it was painfully obvious that your only objective was being a faggot then it would agree they need to get their own thread.

[Thompson]

This was the post made seconds after mine, by a Texas fan, on the 'Texas recruiting thread':


Bleacher Report is reporting that Myles Garrett, who is committed to A&M, has jumped 7 spots to top Leonard Fournette for the top recruit nationally according to 247sports. They are crediting this big of a jump to his outstanding senior season and his performance in the All-American game.

People post about both teams here; to some degree, it's an overall competition between the two schools - the better A&M does, the more problematic it is for Texas, and vice-versa. I was surprised to see Garrett was the #1 recruit in the nation, and I didn't realize Noil was that highly rated - I figured others (mainly Aggies who read this thread, but some Texas fans also) would find that interesting. A&M has never had the #1 recruit, much less half of the top 6. Surprised many are pouting so openly actually; I knew it would bug some, but not this much.

[benefactor]

A&M has never had the #1 recruit, much less half of the top 6. Surprised many are pouting so openly actually; I knew it would bug some, but not this much.
:lol

You knew exactly what you were doing with that post. None of us here are stupid. Hell, your fellow Aggie even called you out on it.

Again, just stick with posting things for informative purposes only. There are plenty of other threads for dick measuring contests and/or inferiority validation.

[Thompson]

Gloating? Yes, of course - it was also interesting information. Isn't A&M having half of the top 6 players in the nation relevant recruiting information? It bugs you this much to see it?

And if Texas fans are going to start throwing out terms like 'faggot', it probably shouldn't be the one who only uses 'selfies' in his avatar - particularly when the previous one featured disturbingly too-neatly trimmed facial hair. Texas fans do understand irony, yes?

[rjv]

well the last thing we would want in this ST site is any railroaded threads. can you imagine how that would dilute the integrity of ST ? after all, decorum has always been its highest priority.

[benefactor]

Gloating? Yes, of course - it was also interesting information. Isn't A&M having half of the top 6 players in the nation relevant recruiting information? It bugs you this much to see it?

And if Texas fans are going to start throwing out terms like 'faggot', it probably shouldn't be the one who only uses 'selfies' in his avatar - particularly when the previous one featured disturbingly too-neatly trimmed facial hair. Texas fans do understand irony, yes?
Thank you for proving me right.

Now...can we get back to discussing recruiting?

[Clipper Nation]

Gloating? Yes, of course - it was also interesting information. Isn't A&M having half of the top 6 players in the nation relevant recruiting information? It bugs you this much to see it?

I actually love seeing that, because it means Aggy's getting their hopes up before the inevitable :lol

[benefactor]

well the last thing we would want in this ST site is any railroaded threads. can you imagine how that would dilute the integrity of ST ? after all, decorum has always been its highest priority.
This is one of the few that has always stayed pretty well focused...much like the prospect threads in the think tank. It's been that way since TFloss started doing them. He provides a lot of valuable information about prospects that is good for all fans of all schools to have...which is why I don't mind Aggie or Tech fan or anyone else chiming in with any information they have. Posts like your buddy Thompson made to gloat just reeks of leftover obsession and as I said earlier...there's a whole CS forum for bullshit like that.

Let's at least attempt to respect the work of TFloss and many other posters in this thread and try to keep it focused on recruiting.

[Needs More Bourbon]

Help us, TFloss. You're our only hope.

[Thompson]

Three of the top 6 recruits in the nation is relevant - to Aggies, and to Texas fans, who have to deal with A&M's dominant recruiting recently. You may hate it, but it's relevant - as the Texas fan posting the exact same information seconds after me demonstrated. If it bothers you that much, scroll past it instead of taking up two pages griping about it - it will go by faster. And as for 'obsessions', I've seen dozens of threads denigrating A&M - I always see posters such as yourself on A&M threads trying to knock the school. Based on this site at least, the obsession appears to run stronger with Texas fans.

As to 'proving you right' about gloating - of course I was gloating. I'm sorry, that wasn't really a brilliant deduction on your part. It was also highly relevant recruiting information, as your own fan proved by posting the same thing right after me.

[rjv]

This is one of the few that has always stayed pretty well focused...much like the prospect threads in the think tank. It's been that way since TFloss started doing them. He provides a lot of valuable information about prospects that is good for all fans of all schools to have...which is why I don't mind Aggie or Tech fan or anyone else chiming in with any information they have. Posts like your buddy Thompson made to gloat just reeks of leftover obsession and as I said earlier...there's a whole CS forum for bullshit like that.

Let's at least attempt to respect the work of TFloss and many other posters in this thread and try to keep it focused on recruiting.

for the most part, yes the overall tone of the thread has been focused on recruiting (regardless of which team ultimately lands the player) but the thread also does have it's fair share of posters whose contribution to this thread has been sophomoric at best. i think we all know who we take seriously and who we do not. there are plenty of texas backers here whose posts i thoroughly enjoy as well.

[benefactor]

Fine. Here's your pat on the head and your sucker. Congrats on your Recruiting National Championship.

[Vito Corleone]

Gloating? Yes, of course - it was also interesting information. Isn't A&M having half of the top 6 players in the nation relevant recruiting information? It bugs you this much to see it?

And if Texas fans are going to start throwing out terms like 'faggot', it probably shouldn't be the one who only uses 'selfies' in his avatar - particularly when the previous one featured disturbingly too-neatly trimmed facial hair. Texas fans do understand irony, yes?

In 1998 Texas had the top defensive player in the nation and the top offensive player. They were Cory Redding and Chris Simms. Texas didn't win jack with them. good luck with this whole recruiting stuff, it takes more than great recruits from one class to be a champion.

[Kermit]

for the most part, yes the overall tone of the thread has been focused on recruiting (regardless of which team ultimately lands the player) but the thread also does have it's fair share of posters whose contribution to this thread has been sophomoric at best. i think we all know who we take seriously and who we do not. there are plenty of texas backers here whose posts i thoroughly enjoy as well.

Sophomoric is a plane I hope to reach one day.

[Thompson]

In 1998 Texas had the top defensive player in the nation and the top offensive player. They were Cory Redding and Chris Simms. Texas didn't win jack with them. good luck with this whole recruiting stuff, it takes more than great recruits from one class to be a champion.

Of course - part of the reason it pleases me is that it is highly relevant to how we might do in the immediate future, with next year's recruits, and so forth.


Agreed on Allen; he was very impressive in the Army All-American Bowl. On the recruiting, it's wild how different the perception of the programs seems to be despite the fact that we had only one more loss this year. I expect Strong to make up some ground.

The perceptions of the programs are highly relevant to future recruiting. I'm personally hoping we get Kyler Murray, as I've heard several favorable comparisons to Manziel. One class isn't going to win it for us, but I think most would acknowledge A&M is doing far better than expected only a couple years ago - and for now at least, that bodes well (for us) for the future.

[Spursfan092120]

Aggie fan posting is just fine with me too. Hell, I cheer for Aggies, Longhorns...whoever in Texas really...'cept Tech...I just can't cheer for them for some reason. I lean more to the Horns though...always have, always will.

[Needs More Bourbon]

The perceptions of the programs are highly relevant to future recruiting. I'm personally hoping we get Kyler Murray, as I've heard several favorable comparisons to Manziel. One class isn't going to win it for us, but I think most would acknowledge A&M is doing far better than expected only a couple years ago - and for now at least, that bodes well (for us) for the future.

Yeah, I'm not getting into that "discussion." My point was just that I'm not sure why there's such a large gap in recruiting right now when one program nearly won its conference and brought in a highly reputable African-American coach while the other just finished one of its more disappointing seasons in recent memory. Then again, the new coach probably explains a lot of it — high school kids don't know Charlie Strong's resume.

[Thompson]

In my opinion, I think it has a lot to do with strength of schedule / conference affiliation; Big 12 (8-5) <<<<<< SEC (9-4).

[bluebellmaniac]

Yeah, I'm not getting into that "discussion." My point was just that I'm not sure why there's such a large gap in recruiting right now when one program nearly won its conference and brought in a highly reputable African-American coach while the other just finished one of its more disappointing seasons in recent memory. Then again, the new coach probably explains a lot of it — high school kids don't know Charlie Strong's resume.

Strong was just hired, how could he have possibly affected our recruiting class in any significant way already? .... Needs More Bourbon...

[Needs More Bourbon]

Strong was just hired, how could he have possibly affected our recruiting class in any significant way already? .... Needs More Bourbon...

Touché.

[rjv]

kids are very trendy and they want to be the center of attention. texas will offer that to a great extent but manziel brought a great deal of attention to a&m and this resulted in a couple of solid recruiting classes. if strong gets a solid year soon and the aggies do not then the trend could reverse. then again, baylor is still riding a high and could become the new darling, and we'll see what kingsbury can do at tech. i'm of the belief that in this day and age of recruiting, texas cannot rely on brand name alone.

[Sisk]

kids are very trendy and they want to be the center of attention. texas will offer that to a great extent but manziel brought a great deal of attention to a&m and this resulted in a couple of solid recruiting classes. if strong gets a solid year soon and the aggies do not then the trend could reverse. then again, baylor is still riding a high and could become the new darling, and we'll see what kingsbury can do at tech. i'm of the belief that in this day and age of recruiting, texas cannot rely on brand name alone.

While Baylor is certainly light years ahead of what they were just a few years back (in terms of competing for recruits), Texas hasn't just relied on their name. They have been the dominant team in the state for over a decade. Winning trumps all.

[rjv]

While Baylor is certainly light years ahead of what they were just a few years back (in terms of competing for recruits), Texas hasn't just relied on their name. They have been the dominant team in the state for over a decade. Winning trumps all.

well that's to my point. they have been so good for so long that they may have been depending on that past success as well as their facilities and tradition. but high school kids today are more concerned with what school is getting the attention at the moment. it's just a product of the times.

[BlueTiger]

came here to see the names of who all the coaches are since it was supposed to be 100% complete an hour ago. Saw lots of posts and was bummed to see that nearly every new post was spam about A&M, in a longhorn thread. I'm not an aggie hater and usually go to 2-3 games every year since I live near and get free tickets, but it would be nice to actually get to read longhorn recruiting in a longhorn recruiting topic and not have to scroll through useless crap.. So apparently Watson is the OC?

[rjv]

came here to see the names of who all the coaches are since it was supposed to be 100% complete an hour ago. Saw lots of posts and was bummed to see that nearly every new post was spam about A&M, in a longhorn thread. I'm not an aggie hater and usually go to 2-3 games every year since I live near and get free tickets, but it would be nice to actually get to read longhorn recruiting in a longhorn recruiting topic and not have to scroll through useless crap.. So apparently Watson is the OC?

he is not. no OC has been named yet.

[bluetrumpet]

Did they have that press conference after all?

[Needs More Bourbon]

Did they have that press conference after all?

Nope. Burton is insistent that it'll be Watson/Wickline, though.

[Kermit]

Nope. Burton is insistent that it'll be Watson/Wickline, though.

Burton's wrong. A lot. But he'll hedge like a motherfucker so he doesn't look like a complete dumbass. Hopefully one of the benefits of this new regime are fuckers like him going out of business. Unfortunately, he'll become another Looch, sucking Belmont cock for a dangling dollar.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that was Burton's old busniness model.

[Blake]

OG Alex Anderson...:wow

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/r/19/190fcba1b8dfc0df09d3a03c25f297fe/332699.jpg

That's some funky chest hair

[Blake]

This was the post made seconds after mine, by a Texas fan, on the 'Texas recruiting thread':



This thread tends to cover recruits for both schools - often (at least in the past, and I expect at times in the future), both schools will compete for the same recruits. And we don't have a TFloss. If it bothers you that much, ignore my posts. No need to be so sensitive - obviously other Texas fans think it's at least somewhat relevant.

I like seeing Aggie posts in here, especially after Aggie claims that others are "agsessed"

[Blake]

In my opinion, I think it has a lot to do with strength of schedule / conference affiliation; Big 12 (8-5) <<<<<< SEC (9-4).

Lol no

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

That's some funky chest hair

I think that's a tattoo.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods reported last night that Les Koenning of Mississippi State is expected to be named the next WR coach at UT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Koenning

[Blake]

I think that's a tattoo.

I'm more convinced now that it's hair.

[TFloss32]

Also from OrangeBloods, Wickline is scheduled to make an in-home visit with OL Demetrius Knox on Thursday.

[TFloss32]

RB Donald Catalon will be in Austin on an official visit this weekend, per 24/7.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying 2016 RB Kameron Martin of Port Arthur Memorial reached out to Strong last night to express his interest in UT.

He came away with the impression that an offer was coming soon.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1399172/kameron-martin#

[TFloss32]

New DL coach, Chris Rumph, will be in San Antonio tomorrow to see DE Derick Roberson, per 24/7.

[benefactor]

Good stuff. Great to see the new staff off and running.

[TFloss32]

After all the drama with Mayfield transferring...

Aaron Dickens ‏@AaronDickens
Per several players on social media, three #TexasTech walk-ons have been awarded scholarships: Johnathan White, David Brenner, Bobby Esiaba.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods mentioned LB/S TJ Harrell of Tampa, FL as a guy we need to look out for.

Harrell says he's been in touch with someone from UT about an offer and is waiting to hear from Strong to make it official.

http://247sports.com/Player/TJ-Harrell-23179

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/1569348/#highlights/61269376

[rjv]

New DL coach, Chris Rumph, will be in San Antonio tomorrow to see DE Derick Roberson, per 24/7.

i thought roberson was a lock. is there any chance of him flopping?

[Kermit]

i thought roberson was a lock. is there any chance of him flopping?

Got to keep him happy.

[TFloss32]

OrangeBloods saying OL Alex Anderson of New Orleans, LA will be in Austin on Thursday/Friday and then will head to Arizona State for the weekend. He's supposed to make a decision once he returns home.

[pgardn]

i thought roberson was a lock. is there any chance of him flopping?

He'd get a T for that, maybe even fined.

[ColinB]

What do you guys think of those rules Scipio outlined in that Barking Carnival post?

Not sure I am a fan of that dorm rule. Seems ridiculous.

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas saying offseason workouts with Pat Moorer start today and the coaches have told the players they're expecting some of them to quit.

[pgardn]

OrangeBloods reported last night that Les Koenning of Mississippi State is expected to be named the next WR coach at UT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Koenning

Going way back. I remember that little son of gun. He got a lot out of that little frame. A Texas Fred Belitnikoff.

[Kermit]

What do you guys think of those rules Scipio outlined in that Barking Carnival post?

Not sure I am a fan of that dorm rule. Seems ridiculous.

Why?

[yavozerb]

What do you guys think of those rules Scipio outlined in that Barking Carnival post?

Not sure I am a fan of that dorm rule. Seems ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous to have free room and board at the University of Texas? These guys have been cuddled for so long its sickening....

[pgardn]

What do you guys think of those rules Scipio outlined in that Barking Carnival post?

Not sure I am a fan of that dorm rule. Seems ridiculous.

Thats the rule, along with the classroom behavior, that I like the best.
Austin is a place to go wayward. A number of ex-football players still live in Austin and some are big trouble. They have pulled players into incidents off campus.

[Whisky Dog]

Why is it ridiculous to have free room and board at the University of Texas? These guys have been cuddled for so long its sickening....

They were getting free room off campus because the university gave them a living stipend to live off campus. They would room with friends and pocket the rest of the stipend for free spending money. That's a nice little perk they're pissed about losing.

I don't mind the change. It's Charlie's program and we want him to change the culture so we can't bitch while he changes the culture.

[Whisky Dog]

Burton seems like quite the pompous ass. Keeps tooting his own horn about what he got right and completely ignored everything he got wrong. It's funny watching people call him out on it and he gets all defensive.

[TFloss32]

What do you guys think of those rules Scipio outlined in that Barking Carnival post?

Not sure I am a fan of that dorm rule. Seems ridiculous.

I'm for everything, especially with this bunch who have had it made. I've been so frustrated the past few years at all of the people who incessantly claimed Mack was trying his best. The guy was preaching how great everything was and "we expect to win 'em all", but he was absent constantly and didn't allow harsh punishment. He didn't even attend full practices. Because of all of that, you're left with a team so detached from reality without a sensible view of how to reach their goals (assuming they all even care). The culture is rotten to its core and it's time to cull the herd. For example, did y'all know Daje failed the majority, if not all, of his classes? How the F does that happen?!

[the chronic]

Gloating? Yes, of course - it was also interesting information. Isn't A&M having half of the top 6 players in the nation relevant recruiting information? It bugs you this much to see it?

Won't bother me until Ags translate big recruiting into wins on the field. You're losing the most important player in the history of your program and these recruits won't be making meaningful contributions on the field most likely for 3-4 years; probably 2 at best. If other guys on current roster, particularly on defense, don't step up this year - I'm not sure the top 5 recruiting class momentum can continue beyond this year. Of course the fun of college football is you never know how things will play out so will be entertaining to watch.

That said, it is pretty impressive class and I've seen some of your recruits in person and there are some serious players there.

[TFloss32]

WR Lorenzo Joe of Abilene Cooper has set up some official visits to TCU and USC. According to Inside Texas he's solid, but the problem up to this point is he hasn't been contacted at all by the new staff so he's looking at options just in case. Not an encouraging development considering WR Emanuel Porter is giving a real hard look at LSU.

[rjv]

I'm for everything, especially with this bunch who have had it made. I've been so frustrated the past few years at all of the people who incessantly claimed Mack was trying his best. The guy was preaching how great everything was and "we expect to win 'em all", but he was absent constantly and didn't allow harsh punishment. He didn't even attend full practices. Because of all of that, you're left with a team so detached from reality without a sensible view of how to reach their goals (assuming they all even care). The culture is rotten to its core and it's time to cull the herd. For example, did y'all know Daje failed the majority, if not all, of his classes? How the F does that happen?!

it certainly sounds like the culture there had gotten out of hand (although FSU just won a title and has exactly this culture-actually probably worse) and i admire strong for putting his foot down. if he can get some positive results from it, i'm sure his method will get the full backing but if not one has to wonder if his methods will be lost beyond his tenure. personally, i think all universities should hold their athletes accountable but winning is the most important detail for most of the schools.

[ColinB]

I'm all for most of what's in the article, don't get me wrong. There should be accountability, a word Mack wasnt familiar with at all. I actually missed the part about seniors being able to move if they are where they should be academically, which makes it much more reasonable.

[rjv]

Won't bother me until Ags translate big recruiting into wins on the field. You're losing the most important player in the history of your program and these recruits won't be making meaningful contributions on the field most likely for 3-4 years; probably 2 at best. If other guys on current roster, particularly on defense, don't step up this year - I'm not sure the top 5 recruiting class momentum can continue beyond this year. Of course the fun of college football is you never know how things will play out so will be entertaining to watch.

That said, it is pretty impressive class and I've seen some of your recruits in person and there are some serious players there.

while i agree with your first sentence, i'm not sure i agree with the three to four years portion of your statement. there are several from this class who will start or have a chance to start this year, including allen who will have tremendous pressure on him to live up to his billing but at least he will have some solid receivers to get the ball to.

[TFloss32]

it certainly sounds like the culture there had gotten out of hand (although FSU just won a title and has exactly this culture-actually probably worse) and i admire strong for putting his foot down. if he can get some positive results from it, i'm sure his method will get the full backing but if not one has to wonder if his methods will lost beyond his tenure. personally, i think all universities should hold their athletes accountable but winning is the most important detail for most of the schools.

It can be done. We've seen all of the problems Meyer left behind at Florida after he won two titles. But with Mack specifically, he's always needed that transcendent personality that could lead the team such as VY, Colt or Muschamp. He hasn't had that since '08. Factor in poor coaching hires/recruiting/development/evaluation, lack of discipline on and off the field, an absent 62 year-old head coach who isn't fully dedicated and is more worried about controlling the message than coaching; you're in for some rough times.

[Kermit]

I'm for everything, especially with this bunch who have had it made. I've been so frustrated the past few years at all of the people who incessantly claimed Mack was trying his best. The guy was preaching how great everything was and "we expect to win 'em all", but he was absent constantly and didn't allow harsh punishment. He didn't even attend full practices. Because of all of that, you're left with a team so detached from reality without a sensible view of how to reach their goals (assuming they all even care). The culture is rotten to its core and it's time to cull the herd. For example, did y'all know Daje failed the majority, if not all, of his classes? How the F does that happen?!

Brian Davis. He's still employed, right? Because he needed to be fired yesterday.

[TFloss32]

Brian Davis. He's still employed, right? Because he needed to be fired yesterday.

I have not read a single thing on turnover in the educational support staff.

Seeing as how Louisville had an outstanding record with education, I expect Strong to take care of that quickly.

[Needs More Bourbon]

MAX_olson: Grad transfer can play in 2014 RT @BlayneBeal QB Michael Brewer has announced he will transfer after the spring semester.

[TFloss32]

MAX (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=221)_olson: Grad transfer can play in 2014 RT @BlayneBeal QB Michael Brewer has announced he will transfer after the spring semester.

Expected, but still crazy how that all worked out. Webb it is.

[yavozerb]

Expected, but still crazy how that all worked out. Webb it is.

Crazier if ends up in austin..Probably would be best qb next season

[TFloss32]

Crazier if ends up in austin..Probably would be best qb next season

24/7 just mentioned that QB Michael Brewer basically had an unofficial deal in place to transfer to Texas before Mack retired.

We'll see if those talks proceed with the new staff. He would arrive in Summer '14.

[Blake]

He would lose a year of eligibility if he goes to UT.

I'm a bit surprised by the news of that, tbh. I still think he could win the job at Tech if he has a good spring.

[yavozerb]

He would lose a year of eligibility if he goes to UT.

I'm a bit surprised by the news of that, tbh. I still think he could win the job at Tech if he has a good spring.

He graduates in may so I am not sure if he loses a yr or not..I guess since he is a graduate TT cannot keep him from going to other b12 schools as well

[rjv]

He graduates in may so I am not sure if he loses a yr or not..

if you are a graduate you do not. showers left A&M last year but because he had graduated he was able to start this year as the QB for UTEP.

[Blake]

He graduates in may so I am not sure if he loses a yr or not..I guess since he is a graduate TT cannot keep him from going to other b12 schools as well

Ah shit, I didn't realize he's graduating.

That sucks ass.

[Thompson]

I actually really wanted Strong before A&M got Sumlin; I'm happy with Sumlin, but I didn't want Texas to get Strong. I think he'll be a good coach for y'all; those rules should improve the team mentality and avert some future 'extra-curricular' issues.

[Blake]

Lol this dude will now be Webb's backup as a walk on:

http://m.statesman.com/news/sports/high-school/marble-falls-qb-richardson-relishes-record-setting/nSLZR/

Interesting that his high school coach was Dodge. I had no idea he was in marble springs.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Soooo.. I'm thinking that the OC is already on the staff. If that's already been stated my apologies for missing it but the writing seems to be on the wall. I'm thinking that they would hire a OC first so he would have some input on who his position coaches are. They've hired all the position coaches on the offensive side already. Or maybe.. he is orchestrating all of this as he works out his deal. What do you guys think?

[Kermit]

Soooo.. I'm thinking that the OC is already on the staff. If that's already been stated my apologies for missing it but the writing seems to be on the wall. I'm thinking that they would hire a OC first so he would have some input on who his position coaches are. They've hired all the position coaches on the offensive side already. Or maybe.. he is orchestrating all of this as he works out his deal. What do you guys think?
I think it's Watson and I'm worried about Vito's health.

[TFloss32]

Soooo.. I'm thinking that the OC is already on the staff. If that's already been stated my apologies for missing it but the writing seems to be on the wall. I'm thinking that they would hire a OC first so he would have some input on who his position coaches are. They've hired all the position coaches on the offensive side already. Or maybe.. he is orchestrating all of this as he works out his deal. What do you guys think?

The consensus seems to be Watson/Wickline as co-OCs with Wickline having the majority of the say. Texas is sitting at the limit of 9 assistant coaches, but there still may be a chance Watson goes NFL. Robinson (the RBs coach) said today he's staying and won't pursue NFL opportunities.

[TFloss32]

Per 24/7, Texas offered 2015 DE Chauncey Rivers of Stone Mountain, GA this morning.

He's currently committed to South Carolina.

http://247sports.com/Player/Chauncey-Rivers-23709

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/485080/chauncey-rivers

[Needs More Bourbon]

The consensus seems to be Watson/Wickline as co-OCs with Wickline having the majority of the say. Texas is sitting at the limit of 9 assistant coaches, but there still may be a chance Watson goes NFL. Robinson (the RBs coach) said today he's staying and won't pursue NFL opportunities.

I've also seen somewhere that Chambers could be moved to an administrative position, which would free up a spot.

[TFloss32]

The consensus seems to be Watson/Wickline as co-OCs with Wickline having the majority of the say. Texas is sitting at the limit of 9 assistant coaches, but there still may be a chance Watson goes NFL. Robinson (the RBs coach) said today he's staying and won't pursue NFL opportunities.

Forgot to mention the other theory is Wickline will be co-OC in title, but will simply coordinate the run game.

Watson will be the guy in the booth calling plays.

[ProgramaticNonFit]

I'm for everything, especially with this bunch who have had it made. I've been so frustrated the past few years at all of the people who incessantly claimed Mack was trying his best. The guy was preaching how great everything was and "we expect to win 'em all", but he was absent constantly and didn't allow harsh punishment. He didn't even attend full practices. Because of all of that, you're left with a team so detached from reality without a sensible view of how to reach their goals (assuming they all even care). The culture is rotten to its core and it's time to cull the herd. For example, did y'all know Daje failed the majority, if not all, of his classes? How the F does that happen?!

I nominate this as post of the year.......you deserve a Longhorn Network Espy for this......

[Clipper Nation]

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[TFloss32]

I've also seen somewhere that Chambers could be moved to an administrative position, which would free up a spot.

Correct. I can understand wanting him as recruiting coordinator to help ease the transition, but no idea why anyone would think he should remain the TE coach.

[Bloeddyr10]

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EDIT: Sorry, didn't see Clippers post.

[Bloeddyr10]

Travonte Valentine will no longer visit Texas and is now down to LSU/Miami, per 24/7.

Apparently he's a grade risk.

[Vito Corleone]

I will hold off on my aneurysm until after the announcement, but so far I'm not happy with the BS about Watson. The guy has sucked more than Greg Davis at running an offense.

[ThePop]

Alright guys, today is the big day. Today we find out that Michael Jordan was right and this was a very elaborate smokescreen. Props to Saban for pulling this off.

[rjv]

by the way, where the hell is jordan. you'd think he would stick around to gloat.

[Hook Em 88]

@ESPNTexas: Texas coaching staff is official. Joe Wickline will be OC/OL coach, Shawn Watson will be assistant HC/QB coach.

[Bloeddyr10]

Official release:

http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115140254.aspx?path=football

The coaching staff includes:
• Vance Bedford: defensive coordinator/secondary - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115140744.aspx?path=football)
• Bruce Chambers: tight ends - click for bio (http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=555&path=football)
• Brian Jean-Mary: linebackers/recruiting coordinator - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115143031.aspx?path=football)
• Les Koenning: wide receivers - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115140103.aspx?path=football)
• Tommie Robinson: running backs - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115141905.aspx?path=football)
• Chris Rumph: assistant head coach for defense/defensive line - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115142355.aspx?path=football)
• Chris Vaughn: defensive backs/special teams coordinator - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115145014.aspx?path=football)
• Shawn Watson: assistant head coach for offense/quarterbacks - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115140454.aspx?path=football)
• Joe Wickline: offensive coordinator/offensive line - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115142729.aspx?path=football)
• Pat Moorer: head strength and conditioning coach for football - click for complete release (http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115144544.aspx?path=football)

[benefactor]

:tu

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying JUCO TE Blake Whiteley was finally approved to enroll today.

His paperwork took longer than usual because he is considered an international student being originally from Canada.

[the chronic]

while i agree with your first sentence, i'm not sure i agree with the three to four years portion of your statement. there are several from this class who will start or have a chance to start this year, including allen who will have tremendous pressure on him to live up to his billing but at least he will have some solid receivers to get the ball to.

You may have true freshman start, but that doesn't mean they will make meaningful contributions. Only a handful of true frosh across the country each year make an impact their first year. Allen is unlikely to start as a true frosh and if he did I'd be pretty worried if I were an Ag fan. No knock on the player but he's a drop back passer in a simplistic offense in HS. That's a damn big jump to expect production when even guys like Winston and Manziel redshirted.

[TFloss32]

24/7 saying Strong and/or an assistant will see the following recruits tomorrow:

QB, Jerrod Heard, Denton Guyer
WR, Dorian Leonard, Longview
DE, Derick Roberson, San Antonio Brennan
DE, Solomon Thomas, Coppell
LB, Cameron Hampton, Dallas Carter
LB/S, Edwin Freeman, Arlington Bowie

**Not sure at this time if the in-home visit with OL Demetrius Knox is still on because OL Alex Anderson moved up his official visit to tomorrow. Wickline will need to be in Austin for that.

[TFloss32]

Travonte Valentine will no longer visit Texas and is now down to LSU/Miami, per 24/7.

Apparently he's a grade risk.

That blows because I think he'd be a difference-maker right away.

Need to get Sawyers out of Nashville scheduled for an official.

[Hook Em 88]

@ESPNTexas: Charlie Strong: “Joe Wickline will call plays on offense."

[rkell87]

@ESPNTexas: Charlie Strong: “Joe Wickline will call plays on offense."
So osu offense?

[TFloss32]

Crazy...

Ryan Cox ‏@RMCx2
S. Anchorage (AK.) coach John Lewis on playing Stephenville in 2014: "We're excited to be the first Alaska team to play in Texas." #txhsfb

[Hook Em 88]

@ESPNTexas: Charlie Strong: “I’d like to run the spread. Run game has to be involved."

[Hook Em 88]

@SBN_Wescott: Expect the spread, up-tempo experience of Joe Wickline at Oklahoma State to heavily influence the direction of the Texas offense.

[Hook Em 88]

@ESPNTexas: Strong: "You should go to a school because of the university. It’s not the University of Charlie Strong, it’s the University of Texas."

Strong speaking on the decommits UT has had since his hiring. Also mentioned he was not upset because of their decisions.

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

@SBN_Wescott: Expect the spread, up-tempo experience of Joe Wickline at Oklahoma State to heavily influence the direction of the Texas offense.

I don't mind that. Especially considering the way OSU moved the ball and ran it down our throats this year.

[ThePop]

Re: DT position

With little time left I don't think we're going to do any better than Ford+Nelson. Take these two and go all in for 2015.

[benefactor]

Them running the OSU offense was my first thought when I heard Wickline was going to be the OC. I'm all for it tbh.

[The Reckoning]

I actually really wanted Strong before A&M got Sumlin; I'm happy with Sumlin, but I didn't want Texas to get Strong. I think he'll be a good coach for y'all; those rules should improve the team mentality and avert some future 'extra-curricular' issues.



:lol

[Hook Em 88]

@hornsfootball: Here's video of today's Charlie Strong Press Conference | http://t.co/oNkp6IWz9R #Hookem

[3rdCoastTexasBoy]

Transcript from Coach Strong's Press conference:

http://www.texassports.com/news/2014/1/15/FB_0115140254.aspx?path=football

[Thompson]

:lol

I certainly wouldn't trade Sumlin for Strong now, but I was hoping A&M would get him back then. There was a fairly large contingent of Aggies who preferred a defensive-minded head coach.

[Vito Corleone]

I'm officially on board with this staff.

We didn't get the big bang hire as an OC, but Wickline running the OSU offense really is exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing the Texas offense next season.

[Sisk]

I'm officially on board with this staff.

We didn't get the big bang hire as an OC, but Wickline running the OSU offense really is exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing the Texas offense next season.

Didn't you say Strong would be gone in 3 years a few days ago?

[yavozerb]

I'm officially on board with this staff.

We didn't get the big bang hire as an OC, but Wickline running the OSU offense really is exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing the Texas offense next season.

The offense will definatly be everyone's focus in the coming season to see what changes have been implemented. Not sure if you guys feel the same way but I already feel like the UT defense is going one the top defenses in the B12 just with the addition of strong and his mentality. Should be fun..

[Vito Corleone]

Didn't you say Strong would be gone in 3 years a few days ago?

No I didn't.

What I said is if Watson was the OC Strong would be gone in 4 years. Watson is not the OC it is Wickline and though he is an unknown as a OC, he will be running the same offense as OSU, so I have hope.

Watson is a failure as a OC, but he seems pretty good as a QB coach.

Time will tell if this was a good move, but I like it on the surface.

[ThePop]

I would be very surprised if the following doesn't happen after next season: Watson is gone, Wickline stays at OL, a new OC is hired. I think what we have right now is temporary since we missed out on our two top guys.

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, DE Sione Teuhema and 2015 OL Maea Teuhema will be in Austin on Friday to meet the new staff.

[TFloss32]

DT Michael Sawyers of Nashville, TN has de-committed from Vanderbilt.

[TFloss32]

According to 24/7, Strong and staff will see S Jason Hall of South Grand Prairie today as well.

[TFloss32]

Also from 24/7...

-multiple coaches will be in Houston today to see LB Otaro Alaka and S John Bonney.

-Chris Vaughn (new DBs coach) will head to Marble Falls to see WR Garrett Gray.

-WR Lorenzo Joe is currently on a field trip, so the visits in Abilene have been pushed back to next week.