Spurs trade ideas

[Pauleta14]

Herb is out for the season, doesn't make sense to trade for him now.

That would lower his price maybe and the goal is to have him long term, not the next 3 months

It'd be such an insane addition I have a hard time believing it anyway

I'd give money to build BW a statue if he manages that

[spurraider21]

that means either CP3 or Keldon are on the move. We got 4 PGs on the roster currently. Word is Keldon was actually the one going out in the Fox trade, but it got changed up cause Dejounte tore his ACL and NOLA didn’t want to do the deal anymore.
where is this word from?

[CGD]

Herb is out for the season, doesn't make sense to trade for him now.

On the contrary, makes total sense.

[spurraider21]

Herb is out for the season, doesn't make sense to trade for him now.
tbh you'd be buying low. he's hurt and only shot 30% from 3 this season. we're not winning this year anyway, his contract is great... i'd do it depending on the compensation

[LeBowen]

I don't see why would Pelicans lower their asking price, it's not like they're in a hurry.

[Ice009]

that means either CP3 or Keldon are on the move. We got 4 PGs on the roster currently. Word is Keldon was actually the one going out in the Fox trade, but it got changed up cause Dejounte tore his ACL and NOLA didn’t want to do the deal anymore.

What was the trade supposed to be? Where was Keldon headed?

[BatManu20]

I'm pretty confident PATFO have made a call to TOR to inquire about Poodle tbh. They're likely unwilling to give up what it would take to get him, but I bet the call has been made.

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[Mal]

I'm pretty confident PATFO have made a call to TOR to inquire about Poodle tbh. They're likely unwilling to give up what it would take to get him, but I bet the call has been made.

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For Keldon... With couple 2nds

[RC_Drunkford]

where is this word from?

Don Harris said it was originally a 4-team deal with the Pelicans and Keldon going out. When DJ got injured NOLA called the trade off, I assume they were about to trade Alvarado or some back up PG. So the Spurs structured another deal with the Bulls.

[RC_Drunkford]

this is hilarious. Looks like Giannis will be available soon if this happens :lol

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Also we should hope that Ingram goes to the Raptors and not the Hawks. The Raptors have a chance to catch ATL in the standings if both teams keep up their recent trajectory.

[Seventyniner]

Screw draft compensation. Middleton for Vassell straight up. Make the Bucks say no.

(Narrator: they said no)

[TD 21]

Hawks receive: Dieng
Thunder receive: Paul
Spurs receive: Nance Jr.

Really a 4.5, but with the volume and efficiency he's shooting the 3 with this season, he could pair with Sochan off the bench.

Spurs were rumored to be fans his draft year of '15.

[CGD]

I'm pretty confident PATFO have made a call to TOR to inquire about Poodle tbh. They're likely unwilling to give up what it would take to get him, but I bet the call has been made.

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This is why its so fucking annoying that they were able to keep their assets. Jakob would be great there.

[Pauleta14]

I want Cam Johnson bad now

Worth the worst 25' 1RP we have + Keldon and maybe one of the future swap we have (the Dallas's one suddenly gained a lot of value)

[scott]

Hear me out.......

https://i.imgur.com/zIgDuNk.png

[tonight...you]

Hear me out.......

https://i.imgur.com/zIgDuNk.png

That's spicy. Me like.

[CGD]

Yall overrate the crap out of Cam Johnson

[scott]

Yall overrate the crap out of Cam Johnson

I agree... though if BKN would go for Vassell + a pick for Cam + Sharpe, I'd be in.

But yeah, Cam ain't all that.

[CGD]

With all the Warrior desperation, wonder what we could get back for sending Dev/Keldon over there (assuming their Plans A & B fail)? Dated now, but I think a few years back i recall Warriors registering some interest in Keldon.

[scott]

I think Wiggins would fit in quite nicely at the 3 with Fox/Castle/Barnes/Wemby. That was the inspiration of my idea above. He would save us a few years of Devin's money too.

[Dejounte]

Wiggins is only 29??? I feel like hes been in the league forever

[CGD]

I think Wiggins would fit in quite nicely at the 3 with Fox/Castle/Barnes/Wemby. That was the inspiration of my idea above. He would save us a few years of Devin's money too.

Ah, sorry i missed it. Notably GSW have all their FRPs between now at 28 to trade. Would be good to replenish some of the stores if possible.

Dev + bunch of SRP for Wigs + protected 2FRPs

[tbdog]

That's spicy. Me like.

Warriors offer 3 rotional players for one last hail mary? I don't see it. Suns go backwards as well.

[tbdog]

If the Spurs are serious about pushing for the play in. We are running out of time. Then Spurs really need to explore for a bench big that can play center. Keldon is obviously still their best play, but perhaps something on the fringes with Julian will get there. I wouldn't want to give up on a pick, perhaps not even seconds just to try and get into the play in. So I am looking at vet that are ready.

Looking at Wendel Carter or, funny enough, Poeltl. For Wendel Carter, the magic need anyone that can shoot. I think Johnson and Julian for him and Harris, who has been a dud for them might be starting point. They also have Goga Bitadze, who is a big man with some upside at being a rational player. Spurs would need to offer Branham and Julian to make that work. TBH, I think Magic might just offer Wendel to the Lakers for Reeves.

[BacktoBasics]

Wiggins is only 29??? I feel like hes been in the league forever

I feel like that’s because there’s these huge gaps between him playing well. He disappears for months then has a nice month. Rinse repeat.

[thiste]

Under no condition am I ready to give up any of our remaining '25 picks and/or Castle.

[TD 21]

If the Spurs are serious about pushing for the play in. We are running out of time. Then Spurs really need to explore for a bench big that can play center. Keldon is obviously still their best play, but perhaps something on the fringes with Julian will get there. I wouldn't want to give up on a pick, perhaps not even seconds just to try and get into the play in. So I am looking at vet that are ready.

Looking at Wendel Carter or, funny enough, Poeltl. For Wendel Carter, the magic need anyone that can shoot. I think Johnson and Julian for him and Harris, who has been a dud for them might be starting point. They also have Goga Bitadze, who is a big man with some upside at being a rational player. Spurs would need to offer Branham and Julian to make that work. TBH, I think Magic might just offer Wendel to the Lakers for Reeves.

I don't know if all his injuries have started to catch up to him or what, but between his poor play (lost starting job to Bitadze) and the extension he inked last off season, Carter Jr. is a negative value contract at this point. Also, with Mo Wagner out for the season, the Magic need C depth.

The Lakers will likely pursue a vertical spacing rim runner/protector at C.

[tonight...you]

Warriors offer 3 rotional players for one last hail mary? I don't see it. Suns go backwards as well.
It was spicy though.

[mo7888]

Hear me out.......

https://i.imgur.com/zIgDuNk.png

I'd love that trade. I'm actually fairly high on Pelle. I had him #30 on my board last draft and thought he'd be a nice player off the bench with a little bit of upside.

[ginobilized]

Hear me out.......

https://i.imgur.com/zIgDuNk.png

Complex and creative!
I wonder if there's a way to nab Looney in this scheme?

[vy65]

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O.o

[KobesAchilles]

Dude has no room to be petty. Left OKC. Left the Warriors. Forced his way out of the Nets. Suns owe him nothing. If I were Denver I would go after him. Or Memphis. Maaaaybe Houston. And ofc us. He doesn’t really fit any Eastern teams

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1886989083391508972?s=46

Looks like devin is here to stay by the trade deadline scott

[tonight...you]

https://x.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1886989083391508972?s=46

Looks like devin is here to stay by the trade deadline scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150)
Very cool that De'Aaron would jump right into the Spurs deep end right away, supporting his new teammate.
I can't wait to see the team gel with this new dynamic player who wants to be here.

[objective]

"Jersey retirement? Gives me an idea for a line of NFTs featuring bored jerseys!" - Fox Tuah

[Mnky]

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O.o

He never had any Suns posts. Dude farming for engagement.


Suns listing Durant out tomorrow is something though.

[scott]

https://x.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1886989083391508972?s=46

Looks like devin is here to stay by the trade deadline scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150)

If Brian Wright is willing to trade Collins, no one is safe

[cutewizard]

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[Arguendo]

Netspress mentioned it on Insta
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFouIxpMZCV/?igsh=MWdleHRzZjM0Z25mNA==
Most reports are saying Keldon + swap 25 worst of SAS/ATL with BKN via MIL + SAS 29 FRP.
I wonder if the Nets would do Vassell + swapping the worst of SAS/ATL ‘25 with the Nets ‘25 via Bucks (likely to be around pick 20) + multiple seconds.

Damn, I would love to get Cam for Keldon + for the '25 swap + seconds. Vassell + swap + 2nds is much tougher, just selling so low on Vassell before we see what the Fox addition/more time with CP3 does for him.

Fox/Vassel/Castle/Cam/Wemby
CP3/Champ/Sochan/Barnes + rookie is a may just be '26 contender with continued development lots of ammo left to upgrade for that final piece mid-season.

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/W4Js6t7n-Rc?si=mCQNV9T_UZo8O9_G

[Arguendo]

I'd offer Sochan and whoever the Nets prefer between Barnes/KJ for Cam Johnson.

Sochan/Fox/Castle don't fit. One of them has to go and it ain't Fox or Castle.

Johnson would be the perfect fit next to Wemby and Fox. He's a career 39% three point shooter. He'd feast on open looks as the third option behind Fox and Wemby. Floor spacing PF.

I would love Cam, but I'm not giving up Sochan for him and I'm not giving up Barnes + assets for him.

Barnes is that stretch 4, shot 39% over his last 7 seasons on 4.5 3pa, proven to be a great fit with this team, and extremely durable =missed 5 games in 4 yrs. Cam misses tons of games, he's an upgrade over Barnes, but not by much and he's a much bigger risk.

Sochan has shown the exact development I'd hope for. He's up to 32.6% from 3, he's a very good rebounder overall and top 30 on the O-glass, a plus passer at the 4, he goes to the rim 55% of the time and finishes at 69%, with great defensive versatility, and has shown he's fine coming off the bench. He doesn't turn 22 until the off-season, his best role comp is probably Aaron Gordon and while he's not as dynamic an athletic he fills that exact role with a slightly different skill-set. His career trajectory is a bit ahead of AGs and he has proven a willingness to do what the team asks (PG experiment, 1-handed FTs, limit the 3s) and he's the type of pesky defender and enforcer other teams hate. He has a great chance to be an elite role player on a defensive juggernaut of a team, he is an elite role player if he shows similar 3 development next yr and hits 34.5%. I'm not trading him for a 29 y/o role player, even if that role player is an elite 3% shooter. Shooters are far easier to find than Aaron Gordons. Sochan is far from untouchable, but imo he's untouchable for Cam Johnson.

[Arguendo]

Herb is out for the season, doesn't make sense to trade for him now.
I think it makes a ton of sense to buy low, its not like we are looking for the final piece to a contender this yr.
He was having a terrible season (on a terrible team, playing hurt with a bunch of D-leaguers), if NOLA thinks last yr was a fluke (it may well have been) and the Spurs like the gamble, pull that trigger.
Castle + Sochan + Jones w/Fox focused on the passing lanes (#3 in NBA in steals since 23-24') and Wemby blocking everything= juggernaut on D with tons of switchability.

[Atl Spur]

Hear me out.......

https://i.imgur.com/zIgDuNk.png

I like it…

[cutewizard]

Hypothetical line-up assuming we obtain someone like Yabuselle and say back up center (whoever that is)

Starting Line-Up

Wemby
Sochan
Barnes
Fox
Castle

Bench

Back-up center
Yabuselle
Champagne
CP3
Vassell

Third Stringers

Bassey
Mamu
Minix
Wesley
Branham

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Competitive!

[cutewizard]

Then we have the two first rounders next year

And whoever may be available as free agents

Future looking good gentlemen....................

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Then we have the two first rounders next year

And whoever may be available as free agents

Future looking good gentlemen....................
If we draft Tre Johnson he can take over from Vassell. The same way Ginobili took over from Stephen Jackson.

[Dejounte]

Just a gut feeling but i feel blake wesley gets traded today

[YoungbuckMurray]

Just a gut feeling but i feel blake wesley gets traded today

who do you think is coming back?

[CGD]

Cavs checking in on wings, and supposedly Julian Champaign was one.

[TheChillFactor]

have y'all ever seen Andrew Wiggins actually play basketball?

[Bruno]

In the 3 team rumored trade between Heat/Suns/Wariors with KD and Butler, the main reason why Heat wouldn't want Wiggins is to keep their 2026 capspace.

Spurs could solve that with a trade like Barnes and Bassey for Wiggins.

[Teamduncan21]

In the 3 team rumored trade between Heat/Suns/Wariors with KD and Butler, the main reason why Heat wouldn't want Wiggins is to keep their 2026 capspace.

Spurs could solve that with a trade like Barnes and Bassey for Wiggins.

Any chance we can get a pick or two on these kind of moves so we can use it to pay nets for Cam Johnson?

[montgod]

Any chance we can get a pick or two on these kind of moves so we can use it to pay nets for Cam Johnson?

From this article, I wouldn't see where any extra picks would be able to be extracted to the Spurs, not that I'd want Spurs FO to give much for a Cam addition anyways. I could see however Spurs being an added destination if the teams didn't want to take on all the players being traded (eg Looney, etc)

Article states - There's reason to believe that an ultimate deal between the three sides could look something like this:

Miami Heat
Receive
Andrew Wiggins, Buddy Hield
Gary Payton II, Kevon Looney
2025 1st Round Pick (via PHO)
2025 2nd Round Pick (via GS)

Golden State Warriors
Receive
Kevin Durant
Josh Richardson
Monte Morris

Phoenix Suns
Receive
Jimmy Butler
Alec Burks
2027 1st Round Pick (via GS)

[RC_Drunkford]

In the 3 team rumored trade between Heat/Suns/Wariors with KD and Butler, the main reason why Heat wouldn't want Wiggins is to keep their 2026 capspace.

Spurs could solve that with a trade like Barnes and Bassey for Wiggins.

why would the Spurs tie up their 2026 cap space though? The way the deals are structured, we should have enough cap space in 2026 to sign some nice FAs

[baseline bum]

In the 3 team rumored trade between Heat/Suns/Wariors with KD and Butler, the main reason why Heat wouldn't want Wiggins is to keep their 2026 capspace.

Spurs could solve that with a trade like Barnes and Bassey for Wiggins.

Why would you move Bassey when that money could be made up with someone not in the rotation like Branham?

[RC_Drunkford]

From this article, I wouldn't see where any extra picks would be able to be extracted to the Spurs, not that I'd want Spurs FO to give much for a Cam addition anyways. I could see however Spurs being an added destination if the teams didn't want to take on all the players being traded (eg Looney, etc)

Article states - There's reason to believe that an ultimate deal between the three sides could look something like this:

Miami Heat
Receive
Andrew Wiggins, Buddy Hield
Gary Payton II, Kevon Looney
2025 1st Round Pick (via PHO)
2025 2nd Round Pick (via GS)

Golden State Warriors
Receive
Kevin Durant
Josh Richardson
Monte Morris

Phoenix Suns
Receive
Jimmy Butler
Alec Burks
2027 1st Round Pick (via GS)

getting KD for 2 firsts is crazy work. The Suns could get a way better package from OKC, Houston, Memphis, etc.

[KingKev]

Even for a player like KD the market is lukewarm I bet.

[Bruno]

Why would you move Bassey when that money could be made up with someone not in the rotation like Branham?

Well, it could be Barnes and whoever you want (Paul, Bassey, Mamu, Branham, Wesley).

[Bruno]

why would the Spurs tie up their 2026 cap space though? The way the deals are structured, we should have enough cap space in 2026 to sign some nice FAs

That's the drawback of that trade. You upgrade from Barnes to Wiggins but you lost that 2026 cap space. At the end, it all depends on what FA Spurs could expect to sign in 2026.

[Seventyniner]

From this article, I wouldn't see where any extra picks would be able to be extracted to the Spurs, not that I'd want Spurs FO to give much for a Cam addition anyways. I could see however Spurs being an added destination if the teams didn't want to take on all the players being traded (eg Looney, etc)

Article states - There's reason to believe that an ultimate deal between the three sides could look something like this:

Miami Heat
Receive
Andrew Wiggins, Buddy Hield
Gary Payton II, Kevon Looney
2025 1st Round Pick (via PHO)
2025 2nd Round Pick (via GS)

Golden State Warriors
Receive
Kevin Durant
Josh Richardson
Monte Morris

Phoenix Suns
Receive
Jimmy Butler
Alec Burks
2027 1st Round Pick (via GS)

The Suns go from KD to Butler and don't get any net firsts? They get one from GS but also send one to MIA. Ouch.

[montgod]

The Suns go from KD to Butler and don't get any net firsts? They get one from GS but also send one to MIA. Ouch.

I know... it's horrible but I've read Suns can save cap space and use towards more addl supporting players. Should have traded him before the season like everyone was telling him to get max value. smh

[thOOdee]

https://postimg.cc/PPn8JkwK
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What about this trade with spurs shipping a first to miami??

edit: link shows spurs: durant, phx: jimmy, miami: devin, kj, and a first from the spurs.
https://postimg.cc/PPn8JkwKhttps://postimg.cc/PPn8JkwKhttps://postimg.cc/PPn8JkwK

[RC_Drunkford]

That's the drawback of that trade. You upgrade from Barnes to Wiggins but you lost that 2026 cap space. At the end, it all depends on what FA Spurs could expect to sign in 2026.

I really want them to go after JJJ. Can you imagine a Fox/Castle/Vassell/JJJ/Wemby line up? If Vassell ever gets his shit together that's lock down defense and shooting from every position with elite speed and dribble penetration.

[LeBowen]

I really want them to go after JJJ. Can you imagine a Fox/Castle/Vassell/JJJ/Wemby line up? If Vassell ever gets his shit together that's lock down defense and shooting from every position with elite speed and dribble penetration.

Me and scott would rather have Trey Murphy and his $30M a year. :lol
I'd gladly overpay for Murphy because that contract will be invaluable and worth a pick or two by itself.

I'm in favor of high end starters with two max contracts, three max deals mean the rest of the roster is garbage.
How would you even pull it off? Wemby's extension kicks in 2027, Castle's in 2028, Fox will be on a max deal and you'd add another 30% max?

[buttsR4rebounding]

The Suns go from KD to Butler and don't get any net firsts? They get one from GS but also send one to MIA. Ouch.

If I'm the Suns I'd rather keep my own pick and route the 27 GS pick to Miami. Miami is actually receiving great value for Butler here given the situation. And since he has basically locked Miami into trading him to Phoenix he should be going there at a discount. It seems like the Suns should keep their own pick and keep the GS pick at a minimum.

[TD 21]

Why would the Suns want Butler without Durant and why would the latter be amendable to going back to the Warriors?

I'd rather have Barnes than Wiggins. Barnes' ability to play stretch four is crucial until they find a replacement and I expect it to be a wing-forward as opposed to a forward-big.

[rjv]

In the 3 team rumored trade between Heat/Suns/Wariors with KD and Butler, the main reason why Heat wouldn't want Wiggins is to keep their 2026 capspace.

Spurs could solve that with a trade like Barnes and Bassey for Wiggins.

not sure how much a Fox extension will impact the Spurs 2026 cap space but if there's still room, I wouldn't want it to be taken up by someone like Wiggins.

[RC_Drunkford]

Me and scott would rather have Trey Murphy and his $30M a year. :lol
I'd gladly overpay for Murphy because that contract will be invaluable and worth a pick or two by itself.

I'm in favor of high end starters with two max contracts, three max deals mean the rest of the roster is garbage.
How would you even pull it off? Wemby's extension kicks in 2027, Castle's in 2028, Fox will be on a max deal and you'd add another 30% max?

we all know there's no way NOLA trades Murphy. I'd love to have him cause his contract is a bargain. Pipe dream.

[Seventyniner]

I know several Spurs, including Fox, just went to Vassell's jersey retirement. And that team chemistry is underrated by many (myself included).

Still, if I was Brian Wright, I would pick up the phone and offer Vassell to the Wizards for Middleton. They have no use for Middleton, and Middleton is better at the role Vassell is now in (#3 or 4 option, mainly spot-up shooter). This trade also opens up more 2026 cap space.

In fact, I can't think of any significant or even moderate move the Spurs can make while keeping Vassell. If they trade Keldon plus filler for a player with a mid to high salary, they will be paying Fox and Sochan and Vassell and this new player. Some of that money will roll off before Victor's extension kicks in but not all of it.

[scott]

Was listening to Vecenie and he was pondering OKC and HOU and potential CP3 landing spots... and this intrigued me. It fits the theory that CP3 wouldn't want to be a backup and he'd like to ring chase. OKC is obviously a perfect fit, and they could use a backup ball handler. HOU also could use a backup ball handler, and are less likely to ring, but are still poised to make a playoff push.

Here are some ideas that all work in Spotrac

OKC IDEAS

Idea #1: CP3 for Cason Wallace. This is a big time pipe dream, but Fox/Castle/Wallace would be a 3-man guard rotation for the ages. We'd be completely set here for a few years. I don't think OKC would actually do this though without get first round draft capital back. But with Topic coming back next year maybe they view Cason as expendable and potential expensive?

Idea #2: CP3 for Ousmane Dieng and Jaylin Williams (Arkansas J. Williams, not Jalen :lol). Gives us a backup C and we get to take a cheap look at Dieng.

Idea #3: CP3 for either Aaron Wiggins or Isaiah Joe. Both really nice young players. OKC finds a way for these guys to get playing time somehow, but they have a glut of SGs and one of these guys is expendable.

HOU IDEAS

Idea #1: CP3 for Steven Adams

Idea #2: CP3 for Jock Landale

Idea #3: CP3 for Aaron Holiday and the newly acquired Jaden Springer

Idea #4: CP3 for Jaden Springer and Cam Whitmore (we'd certainly need to send out picks to make this happen)

[scott]

I know several Spurs, including Fox, just went to Vassell's jersey retirement. And that team chemistry is underrated by many (myself included).

Still, if I was Brian Wright, I would pick up the phone and offer Vassell to the Wizards for Middleton. They have no use for Middleton, and Middleton is better at the role Vassell is now in (#3 or 4 option, mainly spot-up shooter). This trade also opens up more 2026 cap space.

In fact, I can't think of any significant or even moderate move the Spurs can make while keeping Vassell. If they trade Keldon plus filler for a player with a mid to high salary, they will be paying Fox and Sochan and Vassell and this new player. Some of that money will roll off before Victor's extension kicks in but not all of it.

I think this is key. The Spurs can still open up close to a max salary spot if they can find a way to get off Vassell and Keldon before the Summer of 2026, and that's even with giving Sochan a $20MM/yr extension (which I think would be an overpay). Unless Devin really turns it around to close out the year, I think he's definitely on the block (my biases against him aside).

[LittleCriminal]

Vassel and Keldon for Kevin Durant would be sweet..

[LittleCriminal]

Or try and Get Bol Bol...

[CGD]

How can we get in on the Ingram to ATL talks?

[LeBowen]

How can we get in on the Ingram to ATL talks?

We offer all 3 Hawks picks for Murphy.

[scott]

We offer all 3 Hawks picks for Murphy.

Yeah, clearly the Hawks are trying to do everything in their power to avoid the lottery this season and hand us a top pick. If they're going to do that, then I'd rather have the sure thing in Trey than a maybe shot at a lotto pick. I'd take Herb as a consolation prize, but those two guys aren't in the same league.

[mo7888]

Yeah, clearly the Hawks are trying to do everything in their power to avoid the lottery this season and hand us a top pick. If they're going to do that, then I'd rather have the sure thing in Trey than a maybe shot at a lotto pick. I'd take Herb as a consolation prize, but those two guys aren't in the same league.

I'm not sure what I'd give for Herb though. I do like him, but he's hard to value right now.

[scott]

I'm not sure what I'd give for Herb though. I do like him, but he's hard to value right now.

Yeah. The Hawks picks would definitely still be off limits. I might be willing to do a protected FRP, but I doubt NOP goes for that. Herb's a 3&D who actually doesn't really 3 all that well. His shooting last season seems like more of an outlier than a progression.

[Mal]

We offer all 3 Hawks picks for Murphy.

Spurs: Murphy
Hawks: Ingram
Pels: ATL picks from Spurs ?

[Ice009]

Darn, so are the Hawks really trying to get Ingram? I wonder if the Spurs still had interest? Would you guys take BI if the picks traded have some protection on them?

[mo7888]

Darn, so are the Hawks really trying to get Ingram? I wonder if the Spurs still had interest? Would you guys take BI if the picks traded have some protection on them?

What year would be the picks they'd give us? What protections?

[scott]

I'd do Vassell for BI and picks coming from NOP. Clears salary and gives us a better player for the rest of the year. Then I just let BI walk.

[spurraider21]

I'd do Vassell for BI and picks coming from NOP. Clears salary and gives us a better player for the rest of the year. Then I just let BI walk.
it'd have to be legit pick compensation, though, and i dont see NOP doing that. we may not like him but imo vassell is still seen as an asset around the league, on a somewhat declining contract. still 24 years old as well. im not looking to just functionally amnesty vassell

[RC_Drunkford]

Ingram makes no sense. He plays with the ball in his hands and is not a catch-and-shoot player nor a defender. And you'd have to ship out Vassell + fillers or Barnes + Keldon.

[scott]

it'd have to be legit pick compensation, though, and i dont see NOP doing that. we may not like him but imo vassell is still seen as an asset around the league, on a somewhat declining contract. still 24 years old as well. im not looking to just functionally amnesty vassell

I agree that he is still likely seen as a legit asset. My "BI and picks" wasn't meant to be a smart ass comment. I'd be talking like a real FRP. Could be way in the future, like 2031 after NOP thinks they'll be competing again. Maybe they could view Devin as part of their next core. DJM/Devin/Murphy/Flagg/Missi kind of thing.

This is all my own version of Spurs FanFiction, but just thinking out loud.

[CGD]

Spurs: Murphy
Hawks: Ingram
Pels: ATL picks from Spurs ?

Well the Hawks need to send someone out too. Thats the catch.

[spurraider21]

Ingram makes no sense. He plays with the ball in his hands and is not a catch-and-shoot player nor a defender. And you'd have to ship out Vassell + fillers or Barnes + Keldon.
vassell + branham gets it done :lol

i dont like the idea though

[thiste]

I don't think it's a good strategy to try & rush things. We've already had our big move, let's see how that pans out. Maybe go after a cheap 5 and that's all.

There will be better opportunities this summer or later.

[scott]

Ingram makes no sense. He plays with the ball in his hands and is not a catch-and-shoot player nor a defender. And you'd have to ship out Vassell + fillers or Barnes + Keldon.

Wouldn't have to send any additional filler. BI for Vassell works straight up. Also saves the Pels an additional $6.7MM this year, though they no longer need to get under the tax line.

[scott]

I don't think it's a good strategy to try & rush things. We've already had our big move, let's see how that pans out. Maybe go after a cheap 5 and that's all.

There will be better opportunities this summer or later.

I'm actually in almost total agreement with this, I just like playing Fantasy GM. All of these things I'm suggesting, I don't think the Spurs would actually do nor do I think they necessarily even should. Just having fun.

With that said... we do have a glut of wings (none of which are really that great) that we'll need to do something about eventually, but this summer would be fine.

[Dverde]

I can’t see the spurs making another trade. They’ll probably monitor the fit between Fox and our “core” players and see if one of them is a worse fit than the other ones.

[Guru of Nothing]

Well the Hawks need to send someone out too. Thats the catch.

You mean they can't resend out their picks.

[Ice009]

Well, the main reason I bought it up was because wasn't it reported that the Spurs inquired about BI? Who do you think the Spurs were willing to trade for him?

[mo7888]

Well, the main reason I bought it up was because wasn't it reported that the Spurs inquired about BI? Who do you think the Spurs were willing to trade for him?

It would have been Collins and KJ in a salary dump.

[spurraider21]

I can’t see the spurs making another trade. They’ll probably monitor the fit between Fox and our “core” players and see if one of them is a worse fit than the other ones.
yeah the main trades i coulda seen them make was

- moving CP3 if he has indicated he doesnt want to come off the bench for an aspiring play-in team
- moving for a backup C that wouldnt cost us a FRP or rotation player

doesnt seem to be any smoke. but the lack of press conference from Wright so far probably means they're still at least exploring

[Russ]

I can’t see the spurs making another trade. They’ll probably monitor the fit between Fox and our “core” players and see if one of them is a worse fit than the other ones.

:clap

The Spurs have already won this trade season.

No sense trying to gild the lily only to undercut what's been accomplished.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/sam_amick/status/1887260081168986192

[CGD]

^ welp, there goes my hope of getting Sidy back this summer once the Kangs cut him. At least he'll get his shot in DC

[mo7888]

I don't think Reaves nor Knecht really fit with Luka. What about this if the Lakers miss out on bigger fish.

Spurs- Austin + Dalton + Rui

LA- Paul + Keldon (or Barnes)+ Wesley + 3 2nds

[Russ]

I don't think Reaves nor Knecht really fit with Luka. What about this if the Lakers miss out on bigger fish.

Spurs- Austin + Dalton + Rui

LA- Paul + Keldon (or Barnes)+ Wesley + 3 2nds

Do we have some intimate knowledge of horrific criminal behavior by someone in the Lakers' braintrust?

[mo7888]

Do we have some intimate knowledge of horrific criminal behavior by someone in the Lakers' braintrust?

I'd imagine we do, but that trade isn't outside the range of feasibility. We continually undervalue Keldon's value around the league here.

[scott]

I don't think Reaves nor Knecht really fit with Luka. What about this if the Lakers miss out on bigger fish.

Spurs- Austin + Dalton + Rui

LA- Paul + Keldon (or Barnes)+ Wesley + 3 2nds

Not sure how Reaves would fit here either unless we were also moving Devin.

[mo7888]

Not sure how Reaves would fit here either unless we were also moving Devin.

Id hope we'd move Devin, but a lineup of Reaves, Castle, Rui, Knecht, and a defensive back up big wouldn't be to shabby.

[Russ]

I'd imagine we do, but that trade isn't outside the range of feasibility. We continually undervalue Keldon's value around the league here.

You may be right.

I forgot to factor in that Reaves may have a bit of a bad contract.

And, regarding Keldon, he does have a gold medal which would play well here in Tinseltown .

[palangi]

Chris Paul + Keldon Johnson + Jeremy Sochan+ Branham
to the lakers for
Rui + Jaxson Hayes + Cam Reddish

[cutewizard]

Kevin Durant is still open to us Spurs hopefully next year..................

[Degoat]

We have to sign a backup big this ATL game is putrid when wemby is on the bench

[ambchang]

I know we are all on cloud 9... but I think there is still work being done. Our roster is extremely fat on guards and extremely light on Bigs and actual Useful Wings:

PG: Fox/CP3/Blake/Jordan McLaughlin
SG: Castle/Vassell/Branham
SF: Barnes/Keldon/Champ
PF: Sochan/Mamu
C: Wemby/Bassey

Almost certainly more trades are coming. Brain trust, we made this happen and our boy Brian Wright got us a STEAL of a deal. What's next?

Jabari Smith Jr, baby! Wanted him for a few years. Perfect compliment to wemby.

[scott]

Jabari Smith Jr, baby! Wanted him for a few years. Perfect compliment to wemby.

How's his BBIQ? I'll take less talented players who are just not morons at this point.

[mo7888]

Does anyone think Nola is going to keep Olynyk? Buyout or obtain for a 2nd? Doesn't help rim protection, but his shooting would help spacing.

[Mal]

Does anyone think Nola is going to keep Olynyk? Buyout or obtain for a 2nd? Doesn't help rim protection, but his shooting would help spacing.

He is still signed for next year, they send Theis to be under the cap limit - so I think he will stay with them

[cutewizard]

that news on Poetl guys?

[Dverde]

With Ingram going to Toronto, maybe they buy out Boucher expiring deal?

[ginobilized]

I hope Keldon is the answer to some team's problem.Truly hoping the Spurs pull a rabbit out of their hat and add a C or PF in the next few hours.
Poeltl would be a huge help to our rebounding and non-Wemby woes. His passing would suit the 2nd unit, too.

Any hope for another trade or are we working the waiver wire?

[montgod]

With Ingram going to Toronto, maybe they buy out Boucher expiring deal?

I mean... don't the Spurs need more rebounding/defense though? Boucher doesn't provide either really.

[ambchang]

How's his BBIQ? I'll take less talented players who are just not morons at this point.

I don’t think he’s a moron per se. Total black hole, to weak to prevent bigs from backing him down, ok rim protector, not overly efficient but lots of outside shots for a big. Does get lost without the ball. Still on rookie contract and given his bust status is unlikely to command a large contract once that’s up.

I just see him fitting in with wemby due to his length and shooting. He isn’t a 6’10” Chris Paul in terms of bb smarts, but he’s not a Malaki either.

[Guru of Nothing]

Just to throw a crazy idea out there, how about Keldon Johnson and capital (and whatever it takes to grease the wheels) for Brooks Lopez? Surely Milwaukee is going to realize that they need to take a step back and retool around Giannis.

Lopez shores up a ton of deficiencies all at once, but that comes with an expiring $34.5M 2025/26 contract (could be a blessing or a curse). And he can mentor Danny Wolf next year too, which would be fantastic.

[spurraider21]

Just to throw a crazy idea out there, how about Keldon Johnson and capital (and whatever it takes to grease the wheels) for Brooks Lopez? Surely Milwaukee is going to realize that they need to take a step back and retool around Giannis.

Lopez shores up a ton of deficiencies all at once, but that comes with an expiring $34.5M 2025/26 contract (could be a blessing or a curse). And he can mentor Danny Wolf next year too, which would be fantastic.
if people are going to call him Brooks Lopez im already against this trade

[LeBowen]

Two hours left.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/OKiv7FrpxLgAAAAd/check-check-watch.gif

[BatManu20]

Doubt it happens because the Nets reportedly want 2 FRP's for him, but Cam Johnson would fit seamlessly on this team and give us some much-needed shooting.

Averaging 19/4/3 on 49/41/90 splits at 8 3PA/per

Turns 29 next month. Has 2 years left on his deal at a pretty friendly $43M over the next 2 years.

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[LeBowen]

Is that guy just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks?
Spurs could've signed Bitadze last summer.

I don't understand why would Magic trade either of their bigs at the deadline, they're a playoff team and would have to get another one somewhere else.

[spurraider21]

Is that guy just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks?
Spurs could've signed Bitadze last summer.

I don't understand why would Magic trade either of their bigs at the deadline, they're a playoff team and would have to get another one somewhere else.
could have signed valanciunas as well

they instead used their cap space to sign paul, trade for barnes (and the pick swap)

im not mad

[RC_Drunkford]

I don’t believe this dude. Carter is on a 4-year contract with a team option for the fifth

[BacktoBasics]

Carter doesn’t do anything that Bassey doesn’t

[DPG21920]

Keldon + Branham + 3 2nds for Cam is fine with me. I’d rather pay Cam than Keldon for similar money. Keldon cant shoot 3s well enough or defend so rather have the shooting.

Prefer not to give up a first though unless it’s lottery protected. Or maybe a contender values Barnes as a first and SA can send Barnes to another team and they send a first to BKY and Cam gets to SA

[Kevin]

If you look at the Nets cap situation it looks like they’re going to make a run in the 2026 free agent class so they would probably prefer Barnes over KJ.

Spurs get:
Johnson

Nets get:
Barnes
Spurs 2025 first top four protected plus two second rounders.

I’d also do Sochan instead of the first rounder too. Add shooting while getting rid of non-shooting.

[LeBowen]

Can you stop putting Barnes in trades? We're not trading Barnes. He's our only forward with legit size and shooting ability. Trading Barnes for Cam would be a lateral move. Barnes also plays bigger, Cam can't play PF.
Barnes isn't even that old, just 32. He's a veteran forward every team needs. Does a bit of everything, isn't bothered by lack of shots in some games and is a model professional.
As I said when we got him, he's our next Finley.

[Dverde]

If you look at the Nets cap situation it looks like they’re going to make a run in the 2026 free agent class so they would probably prefer Barnes over KJ.

Spurs get:
Johnson

Nets get:
Barnes
Spurs 2025 first top four protected plus two second rounders.

I’d also do Sochan instead of the first rounder too. Add shooting while getting rid of non-shooting.

Spurs are not dumping Barnes to the Nets. They won’t do him like that after we waived his trade kicker.

[Kevin]

Can you stop putting Barnes in trades? We're not trading Barnes. He's our only forward with legit size and shooting ability. Trading Barnes for Cam would be a lateral move. Barnes also plays bigger, Cam can't play PF.
Barnes isn't even that old, just 32. He's a veteran forward every team needs. Does a bit of everything, isn't bothered by lack of shots in some games and is a model professional.
As I said when we got him, he's our next Finley.

Cam Johnson's listed position is PF for his entire career. 6'8 210LB's and shoots the three at 39%.

I'd be shocked if the Spurs promised to not trade Barnes to waive his trade kicker. More than likely they promised him minutes and a spot in the starting five.

You sound weirdly emotionally invested in Barnes for some reason.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Cam Johnson's listed position is PF for his entire career. 6'8 210LB's and shoots the three at 39%.

I'd be shocked if the Spurs promised to not trade Barnes to waive his trade kicker. More than likely they promised him minutes and a spot in the starting five.

You sound weirdly emotionally invested in Barnes for some reason.

Because he's a very good player. Trading him for Johnson would be one step forward and one step back.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Can you stop putting Barnes in trades? We're not trading Barnes. He's our only forward with legit size and shooting ability. Trading Barnes for Cam would be a lateral move. Barnes also plays bigger, Cam can't play PF.
Barnes isn't even that old, just 32. He's a veteran forward every team needs. Does a bit of everything, isn't bothered by lack of shots in some games and is a model professional.
As I said when we got him, he's our next Finley.

He also suits up and plays in every game. This is an underrated ability and very useful for a squad. Players like Barnes and Mikal Bridges set the standard by turning up for every game and inspire locker room colleagues to push themselves to do so too.

[LeBowen]

Cam Johnson's listed position is PF for his entire career. 6'8 210LB's and shoots the three at 39%.

Sometimes listed measurements aren't enough, Barnes plays bigger even though he's too small in a lot of matchups.


I'd be shocked if the Spurs promised to not trade Barnes to waive his trade kicker. More than likely they promised him minutes and a spot in the starting five.

I didn't say anything about this, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a lateral move and send FRPs out.


You sound weirdly emotionally invested in Barnes for some reason.

I'm not, I just don't think Cam is worth sending a starter and a FRP out.
Not counting garbage minute scrubs, Barnes is at 42% from 3pt this season.
The next best regular rotation members CP3 and Champ are at 36%.

[Kevin]

Spurs are not dumping Barnes to the Nets. They won’t do him like that after we waived his trade kicker.

Again I would be very surprised if the Spurs gave Barnes a defacto no trade clause. He was probably promised minutes and a spot in the starting five. Spurs didn't need Barnes and by waiving his trade kicker he was doing three organizations a favor and DDR a favor too.

Its hard standing in the way of so much business as a career role player especially with a legit star in the mix like DDR.

[stephen jackson]

kiwi needs to do us a solid kj & a 1st

[YoungbuckMurray]

Atlanta just traded hunter they just got much worse

[LeBowen]

Spurs didn't need Barnes and by waiving his trade kicker he was doing three organizations a favor and DDR a favor too.


We absolutely needed a wing with size and respectable 3pt shot.
Being paid to get Barnes was ideal.


Its hard standing in the way of so much business as a career role player especially with a legit star in the mix like DDR.

Now you're just trying to push a hillariously bad narrative.

Tbh, what's your issue with Barnes?
He's our best shooter and doesn't make awful defensive mistakes.
Stays in his lane, doesn't hero ball, sometimes drops 20+ and is always ready, I don't understand why would anyone want to trade him away.
If we can get KD or another star, then by all means, but I'm not trading him for Cam Johnson.

Btw, Champ averages 13ppg on 37% as a starter. We have poor man's Cam at home.

[Kevin]

Sometimes listed measurements aren't enough, Barnes plays bigger even though he's too small in a lot of matchups.



I didn't say anything about this, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a lateral move and send FRPs out.



I'm not, I just don't think Cam is worth sending a starter and a FRP out.
Not counting garbage minute scrubs, Barnes is at 42% from 3pt this season.
The next best regular rotation members CP3 and Champ are at 36%.

You said Cam couldn't play PF which has nothing to do with Barnes.

Cam is averaging 19/4/2 on 48/41/90 shooting splits. Like I said in another thread Cam is Great Value Lauri who can be had for cheaper.

Not a lateral move at all. Big upgrade. Automatically the third best player on the team.

[montgod]

Sometimes listed measurements aren't enough, Barnes plays bigger even though he's too small in a lot of matchups.



I didn't say anything about this, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a lateral move and send FRPs out.



I'm not, I just don't think Cam is worth sending a starter and a FRP out.
Not counting garbage minute scrubs, Barnes is at 42% from 3pt this season.
The next best regular rotation members CP3 and Champ are at 36%.

Fully agree.

And this year, Cam's numbers are definitely going to be higher with the minutes and opportunities. If he came to Spurs, his numbers would be similar to when he played with the Suns and/or similar numbers to Barnes now w/the Spurs. No need to give up FRP for that.

[DPG21920]

If you look at the Nets cap situation it looks like they’re going to make a run in the 2026 free agent class so they would probably prefer Barnes over KJ.

Spurs get:
Johnson

Nets get:
Barnes
Spurs 2025 first top four protected plus two second rounders.

I’d also do Sochan instead of the first rounder too. Add shooting while getting rid of non-shooting.

No way Im doing a pick like that for Cam. No freaking way.

[LeBowen]

You said Cam couldn't play PF which has nothing to do with Barnes.

Cam is averaging 19/4/2 on 48/41/90 shooting splits. Like I said in another thread Cam is Great Value Lauri who can be had for cheaper.

Not a lateral move at all. Big upgrade. Automatically the third best player on the team.

Cam is just a tank commander right now, ultimate green light on a horrible team.
Never averaged more than 13ppg on a winning team.

Lauri is a few tiers above him.

[BacktoBasics]

We can’t trade that Hawks pick now. They’re throwing in the towel.

[DPG21920]

I don’t think ATL got a lot worse. LeVert is a solid player and scores and they get 3 2nds + 2 swaps for him.

[stephen jackson]

Atlanta just traded hunter they just got much worse
crazy he was good last night

[td4mvp2k]

cam or herb please brian!

[montgod]

I don’t think ATL got a lot worse. LeVert is a solid player and scores and they get 3 2nds + 2 swaps for him.

Caris isn't a horrible player, but super streaky. Look at his last two games (0-5, 0-8). He's a world beater one night and a guy who couldn't hit the side of a barn the other. With ATL though, he could get more minutes. We'll see.

[Kevin]

No way Im doing a pick like that for Cam. No freaking way.

Its top four protected and if you know how the lottery works the Spurs pick will either be in 11-16 range or it will jump to top 4. Good thing the pick would be top four protected.

With Fox in the fold that pick will probably end up closer to 16 than 11.

[stephen jackson]

Cam is just a tank commander right now, ultimate green light on a horrible team.
Never averaged more than 13ppg on a winning team.

Lauri is a few tiers above him.
his shooting numbers are crazy i think your wrong on that

[Dverde]

It wouldn’t be a trade deadline without Dinwiddie or Levert.

[DPG21920]

ATL is loaded at wing with Risacher looking very good and Jalen Johnson looking like an all star. They can definitely use Hunters 23M better elsewhere and now opened up cap space next season alongside getting more assets to use to trade and build around Trae.

They may be *slightly* worse this season since Hunter is better than LeVert but LeVert is also very solid. But this trade hurts 26 & 27 for SA IMO

[Splits]

I don’t think ATL got a lot worse. LeVert is a solid player and scores and they get 3 2nds + 2 swaps for him.

Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless. Cleveland is stacked.

[buttsR4rebounding]

It wouldn’t be a trade deadline without Dinwiddie or Levert.

:lmao

[Spursfanfromafar]

The Spurs need Cam Johnson AND Harrison Barnes. They don't need Keldon Johnson. But they also need their important FRPs in 2025, 2026 and 2027 (the ATL swap in 2026 and ATL unprotected in 2027). So the best they could do to get Cam Johnson would be to give up the 2028 pick or the 2030 swap with SAC to go along with some SRPs for Cam. The Nets are greedy and want more. Lets see if they hold on to that stance for a hour or so. I think Cam might just stay with the Nets till the offseason. They have tanked enough to get into the high lottery and can simply wait out to get a better pick for Cam Johnson.

[DPG21920]

Its top four protected and if you know how the lottery works the Spurs pick will either be in 11-16 range or it will jump to top 4. Good thing the pick would be top four protected.

With Fox in the fold that pick will probably end up closer to 16 than 11.

I wouldn’t trade pick 16 + Barnes for Cam

[buttsR4rebounding]

Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless

so true...

[Spursfanfromafar]

ATL is loaded at wing with Risacher looking very good and Jalen Johnson looking like an all star. They can definitely use Hunters 23M better elsewhere and now opened up cap space next season alongside getting more assets to use to trade and build around Trae.

They may be *slightly* worse this season since Hunter is better than LeVert but LeVert is also very solid. But this trade hurts 26 & 27 for SA IMO

Yep. EPM rates LeVert higher in both offense and defense over Hunter. ATL might have got slightly better in 2025, actually if advanced Stats are any indication. Niang is no nobody either and fills Jalen Johnson's PF minutes. Its a good trade for ATL. CLE did well to get under the luxury tax this year too. They are stacked with a lot of wings, so giving up on LeVert and Niang isn't going to hurt them.

[DPG21920]

Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless. Cleveland is stacked.

Maybe but to some degree they are an asset. So are the seconds. So is getting off of 23M from Hunter next season to reroute 23M Hunter - 8M from Niang to other parts of roster due to ATL already being stacked at wing.

We will see; definitely think ATL gets slightly worse this year but not so sure to what degree and I do think this helps them in future

[spurraider21]

Carter doesn’t do anything that Bassey doesn’t
he does the same thing bassey does just better

[Kevin]

We absolutely needed a wing with size and respectable 3pt shot.
Being paid to get Barnes was ideal.



Now you're just trying to push a hillariously bad narrative.

Tbh, what's your issue with Barnes?
He's our best shooter and doesn't make awful defensive mistakes.
Stays in his lane, doesn't hero ball, sometimes drops 20+ and is always ready, I don't understand why would anyone want to trade him away.
If we can get KD or another star, then by all means, but I'm not trading him for Cam Johnson.

Btw, Champ averages 13ppg on 37% as a starter. We have poor man's Cam at home.

I have no issue with Barnes just not emotionally invested in him like you are for some reason.

Comparing Champ and Cam as players is laughable. Totally different players.

[Mal]

Apparently Spurs are interested in Wendell Carter jr or Goga Bitadze

[LeBowen]

I have no issue with Barnes just not emotionally invested in him like you are for some reason.

You're honestly not worth talking to. I think I've been clear enough with my arguments and you have nothing to offer.


Comparing Champ and Cam as players is laughable. Totally different players.

They're the same type of wing, it's just that Cam is better than Champ.
But is he that much better to send out a FRP? I don't think so.

[scott]

ATL is loaded at wing with Risacher looking very good and Jalen Johnson looking like an all star. They can definitely use Hunters 23M better elsewhere and now opened up cap space next season alongside getting more assets to use to trade and build around Trae.

They may be *slightly* worse this season since Hunter is better than LeVert but LeVert is also very solid. But this trade hurts 26 & 27 for SA IMO


Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless. Cleveland is stacked.

Honestly this is a weird trade by ATL. I don't think Caris makes ATL better than having Hunter in any way. Hunter was putting in a 6MOY-worth campaign if ATL was better.

The picks ATL got aren't worth shit. 3 SRPs + 2026 and 2028 swaps that are already swapped with UTA. So UTA still gets the best of UTA/CLE and ATL gets the best remaining of UTA/CLE/ATL... in other words... all teams will likely just be keeping their own picks :lol

[DPG21920]

Apparently Spurs are interested in Wendell Carter jr or Goga Bitadze

WCJ cant be traded right now, but maybe for off season?

[stephen jackson]

You're honestly not worth talking to. I think I've been clear enough with my arguments and you have nothing to offer.



They're the same type of wing, it's just that Cam is better than Champ.
But is he that much better to send out a FRP? I don't think so.
yes cam is 4 times the player champ is come on man

[DPG21920]

Honestly this is a weird trade by ATL. I don't think Caris makes ATL better than having Hunter in any way. Hunter was putting in a 6MOY-worth campaign if ATL was better.

The picks ATL got aren't worth shit. 3 SRPs + 2026 and 2028 swaps that are already swapped with UTA. So UTA still gets the best of UTA/CLE and ATL gets the best remaining of UTA/CLE/ATL... in other words... all teams will likely just be keeping their own picks :lol

JJ + Risacher are going to eat up bulk of minutes going forward; Hunter is good but 23M for him is wasteful when JJ is so good (and paid) and you used #1 pick on Risacher who looks very good too.

I don’t think it’s an amazing trade value wise for ATL but I think it makes plenty of sense. Think it makes lots of sense for Cavs too. Just enough of a value for them. Win/Win IMO

[DPG21920]

And if ATL can get some value by re-routing LeVert or re-routing Niang that makes it even better (which ATL likely does something since they are now over LT with the move)

[Kevin]

I wouldn’t trade pick 16 + Barnes for Cam


Barnes is still a nice player but if you look at his numbers is clearly in decline and turns 33 at seasons end. Johnson turns 29 shortly so that four year age difference is worth a mid first.

Spurs drafted Primo/Dev/Sochan at average draft position of 11. Not sure why people don't understand that by adding Fox the Spurs 2025 pick lost some value.

[LeBowen]

Barnes is still a nice player but if you look at his numbers is clearly in decline and turns 33 at seasons end. Johnson turns 29 shortly so that four year age difference is worth a mid first.

Spurs drafted Primo/Dev/Sochan at average draft position of 11. Not sure why people don't understand that by adding Fox the Spurs 2025 pick lost some value.

I'd trade Keldon+worse of '25 ATL/SAS for Cam.
I wouldn't trade Barnes because it would solve nothing, Cam would just replace Barnes in the rotation and Keldon would still be ruining games.
We need to get rid of Keldon and we need one more legit wing shooter.

[scott]

Jalen's out for the year and can start alongside Risacher if they want. Hunter hasn't been a stopper to any minutes anymore than Caris will be. Atlanta got worse. I'm happy about it.

[DPG21920]

I would trade Keldon + Branham + 3 2nds + BOS Swap

[LeBowen]

Chris Haynes reports that Trae Young really wants to win and that the Spurs had him on their radar before trading for De’Aaron Fox


Interesting.

[scott]

Barnes is still a nice player but if you look at his numbers is clearly in decline and turns 33 at seasons end. Johnson turns 29 shortly so that four year age difference is worth a mid first.

Spurs drafted Primo/Dev/Sochan at average draft position of 11. Not sure why people don't understand that by adding Fox the Spurs 2025 pick lost some value.

Any trade for Cam that leaves Keldon on the team to get minutes is a losing trade, tbh

[DPG21920]

Jalen's out for the year and can start alongside Risacher if they want. Hunter hasn't been a stopper to any minutes anymore than Caris will be. Atlanta got worse. I'm happy about it.

Sure - Im just not sure “how much” worse and they got better for next season and beyond IMO with better cap situation and a few more draft assets. But I doubt they stay a luxury tax team for this right? Someone will be moved im guessing

[Kevin]

You're honestly not worth talking to. I think I've been clear enough with my arguments and you have nothing to offer.



They're the same type of wing, it's just that Cam is better than Champ.
But is he that much better to send out a FRP? I don't think so.

Cam Johnson isn't a wing bro. You're probably thinking of Cam Thomas.

Not sure about the Barnes emotional investment stuff. He's been here for half a season as a role player on a 500ish team and turns 33 at the end of the season with his contract expiring at the end of the next season. I understand getting invested in guys like Dev/Sochan/KJ since they were drafted and developed by the Spurs but Barnes is a very odd case.

[Ice009]

Interesting.

Wow, very interesting. I wonder what the Spurs were willing to give up for Trae?

[DPG21920]

Interesting.

Demand a trade Trae!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'd trade Keldon+worse of '25 ATL/SAS for Cam.
I wouldn't trade Barnes because it would solve nothing, Cam would just replace Barnes in the rotation and Keldon would still be ruining games.
We need to get rid of Keldon and we need one more legit wing shooter.

This would be my offer as well but Brooklyn already have 4 FRPs in 2025, so they may not want a 5th. Still, it might be one of the better offers they'd get because one pick in the 11-16 range is better than 2 picks in the 25-30 range from a team like Memphis, for example.

[Kevin]

Any trade for Cam that leaves Keldon on the team to get minutes is a losing trade, tbh


For the record I would prefer trading away KJ too but it looks like the Nets want to make a run in 2026 free agency so Barnes goes instead.

Maybe they can find a third team to take KJ and everyone gets what they want.

[scott]

Sure - Im just not sure “how much” worse and they got better for next season and beyond IMO with better cap situation and a few more draft assets. But I doubt they stay a luxury tax team for this right? Someone will be moved im guessing

They've been trying to move Capela forever, I wonder if this is his time. Cody Zellner in a straight dump seems like the obvious choice though. I hope they dump Capela or Bogi to help our pick. I would love if we picked up Nance from them for that backup big. Only 45 minutes though, I'm not sure we're getting that big.

[LeBowen]

Cam Johnson isn't a wing bro.

What? Are you serious? Alright, I'm done.


Not sure about the Barnes emotional investment stuff. He's been here for half a season as a role player on a 500ish team and turns 33 at the end of the season with his contract expiring at the end of the next season. I understand getting invested in guys like Dev/Sochan/KJ since they were drafted and developed by the Spurs but Barnes is a very odd case.

Goddamn it you're actually retarded.
I'm not invested in Barnes, I just want fucking Keldon off the team.
Barnes is a positive contributor and shoots 3pt 6% better than anyone else on the roster, that's a massive difference.
I don't care if he's 27 or 32, he's a positive contributor. Keldon isn't.

The only emotionally invested party in this is Spurs coaching staff that doesn't have the balls to DNP useless Keldon and the only way to stop him from ruining games is a trade.

[Guru of Nothing]

Fun exercise (for the next few minutes), if a third party gets involved and the Spurs send out Hawk picks, who gets Trae Young, and what could the Spurs get?

[scott]

Cam Johnson isn't a wing bro. You're probably thinking of Cam Thomas.

Not sure about the Barnes emotional investment stuff. He's been here for half a season as a role player on a 500ish team and turns 33 at the end of the season with his contract expiring at the end of the next season. I understand getting invested in guys like Dev/Sochan/KJ since they were drafted and developed by the Spurs but Barnes is a very odd case.

Cam Johnson is definitely a wing. Cam Thomas is a midget guard.

[scott]

Fun exercise (for the next few minutes), if a third party gets involved and the Spurs send out Hawk picks, who gets Trae Young, and what could the Spurs get?

TREY

MURPHY

III

[Guru of Nothing]

TREY

MURPHY

III

Never heard of the guy.

[montgod]

Demand a trade Trae!

I wish he had... way too late now sigh

[Guru of Nothing]

Maybe ATL wants to take a chance on Zion?

[scott]

Never heard of the guy.

He's legit.

[stephen jackson]

im way happier with fox than trae

[DPG21920]

Good trade by ATL. Saves them 2M and likely gets them back under Luxury Tax and they get more picks for doing so and Bogdan wasn’t in rotation anyways.

[DPG21920]

I wish he had... way too late now sigh

Off season….He is due a massive extension and if he tells ATL he wants to win and wont sign one they will be forced to trade him

[spurraider21]

Any trade for Cam that leaves Keldon on the team to get minutes is a losing trade, tbh
im not in favor of a Cam trade given what his price appears to be (nets overplaying their hand imo)... but if we do, yeah, keldon 100% has to go

[DPG21920]

This would be my offer as well but Brooklyn already have 4 FRPs in 2025, so they may not want a 5th. Still, it might be one of the better offers they'd get because one pick in the 11-16 range is better than 2 picks in the 25-30 range from a team like Memphis, for example.

Hunter should set market for Cam: 3 2nds + swap

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Good trade by ATL. Saves them 2M and likely gets them back under Luxury Tax and they get more picks for doing so and Bogdan wasn’t in rotation anyways.

They aren't getting picks, they're sending picks away. I don't like either of their moves. Good for the Spurs though. Now if they trade Trae to Orlando for Suggs and Isaac or something that'd be great.

[DPG21920]

They've been trying to move Capela forever, I wonder if this is his time. Cody Zellner in a straight dump seems like the obvious choice though. I hope they dump Capela or Bogi to help our pick. I would love if we picked up Nance from them for that backup big. Only 45 minutes though, I'm not sure we're getting that big.

Bogdan moved,but he wasn’t playing or helping ATL anyways, but that’s how they get under tax. 3 more 2nds and Mann is a player they likely use more than they were Bogdan?

[LeBowen]

Can we please just fleece the Bulls again and send Keldon+SRPs for Vucevic?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Hunter should set market for Cam: 3 2nds + swap

A terrible move by the Hawks probably doesn't move the needle for Sean Marks's evaluation, but we'll soon find out probably.

[scott]

Can we please just fleece the Bulls again and send Keldon+SRPs for Vucevic?

Honestly I'd rather have Jalen Smith than Vooch if we are looting the Bulls for our backup C

[DPG21920]

They aren't getting picks, they're sending picks away. I don't like either of their moves. Good for the Spurs though. Now if they trade Trae to Orlando for Suggs and Isaac or something that'd be great.

Oh man, I misread that. I thought they got 3 2nds. I guess they had to pay to get off Bogdan and get under luxury tax. Basketball wise though this helps them more than hurts since Mann likely has a role whereas Bogdan had none.

[DPG21920]

A terrible move by the Hawks probably doesn't move the needle for Sean Marks's evaluation, but we'll soon find out probably.

BKY not moving Cam then shows they were being unreasonable; fair enough to them but doesnt make sense to me

[Seventyniner]

Chris Haynes reports that Trae Young really wants to win and that the Spurs had him on their radar before trading for De’Aaron Fox

Interesting.

To me the more interesting part was when Haynes said that the Spurs were still planning on slow-walking the roster build until Fox fell into their laps.

[scott]

To me the more interesting part was when Haynes said that the Spurs were still planning on slow-walking the roster build until Fox fell into their laps.

That is very interesting, especially coupled with Wemby's comments on the trade and how it showing that the FO knows not to be late with the next steps. To me I took that as Wemby saying it's time for the next step NOW. Thankfully it all worked out to the best way imaginable.

[LeBowen]

That is very interesting, especially coupled with Wemby's comments on the trade and how it showing that the FO knows not to be late with the next steps. To me I took that as Wemby saying it's time for the next step NOW. Thankfully it all worked out to the best way imaginable.

We thought Brian is a genius, but the truth is different.
https://media.tenor.com/60iWOwP-vCAAAAAM/ed-truck.gif

[montgod]

That is very interesting, especially coupled with Wemby's comments on the trade and how it showing that the FO knows not to be late with the next steps. To me I took that as Wemby saying it's time for the next step NOW. Thankfully it all worked out to the best way imaginable.

I definitely think Wemby's play spoke louder than his words that this wasn't a normal slow roll to improve and that the FO was already planning to make some moves. Fox deal was just too good to pass up and luckily the Spurs were in a position to play like they'd only accept if it works towards total plan.

[Arcadian]

So did we do anything else or nah?

[stephen jackson]

nah

[stephen jackson]

i guess bassey aint seriously hurt
we can always get a buy out guy

[mo7888]

Now we can focus on off-season trades... there's going to be quite a few Lauri posts coming up..

[scott]

Now we can focus on off-season trades... there's going to be quite a few Lauri posts coming up..

Lauri's gonna be the old hotness when that ATL pick conveys top 4. tbh.

[jesterbobman]

I'd imagine that interest in Goga / Wendell etc comes up again in the offseason. Magic with Wagner, Goga and Wendell don't have minutes to go around with those 3, Pablo and Franz, Jon Isaac, etc. Crowded depth at F / Centre. Don't think those guys are good enough to be worth spending a lottery pick on, but a Keldon for WCJ or Jon Isaac deal is probably fine.

[Pauleta14]

We thought Brian is a genius, but the truth is different.
https://media.tenor.com/60iWOwP-vCAAAAAM/ed-truck.gif


NBA is becoming like european football, agents are becoming the real general managers who build rosters thx to their army of players that allow them to lobby or impose whatever they want...

It looks like Klutch who, (we heard noises last season already via Windhorst) absolutely wanted to put one of its player with Wemby did the heaviest part, leaving to BW the final negotiation.

I'm cool with solidifying this relationship personally ^^

[buttsR4rebounding]

BKY not moving Cam then shows they were being unreasonable; fair enough to them but doesnt make sense to me

They will extend his qualifying offer this summer and maintain control. They can likely move him for 1 FRP anytime they want and it's not like they needed to do it for either basketball or financial reasons, so Marks is just maximizing the time frame in which some dumbass GM will pay the overprice.

[couchman]

To me the more interesting part was when Haynes said that the Spurs were still planning on slow-walking the roster build until Fox fell into their laps.

I think it’s likely that a soft tank was the plan going into the season.
Many of us here advocated for it.
We knew that the West was stacked and it is a good draft to have lottery balls in.
Let our young talent learn to play winning ball from our new veterans but still end up in the lotto.

And I like being patient until a trade is in our favor.
When you don’t act desperate to make a deal you’re likely to get a good one when the time comes.
I think we all agree now that the Spurs won the Fox trade handily.

[KingKev]

To me the more interesting part was when Haynes said that the Spurs were still planning on slow-walking the roster build until Fox fell into their laps.

There is a very material chance PATFO still aren’t over themselves. After I nutted when the Fox trade broke my immediate reaction was great work, now get back to doing your job.

[exstatic]

They will extend his qualifying offer this summer and maintain control. They can likely move him for 1 FRP anytime they want and it's not like they needed to do it for either basketball or financial reasons, so Marks is just maximizing the time frame in which some dumbass GM will pay the overprice.

He’s on his second contract already, so there is no qualifying offer to extend. Doubt he’s up for an extension with a team in the tank for at least two more seasons. He’s a couple weeks short of29, and probably wants to get on with his career.

[RC_Drunkford]

Brian Windhorst:

Kevin Durant stayed put. He was not happy about being included in trade talks, and I think the next few months are unpredictable because that’s the nature of the sport. However, right now, it’s reasonable to forecast that Durant will be breaking up with the Suns this summer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqrangVXXPg).

depends on the price, but if he says he wants to go to San Antonio...

[spurraider21]

He’s on his second contract already, so there is no qualifying offer to extend. Doubt he’s up for an extension with a team in the tank for at least two more seasons. He’s a couple weeks short of29, and probably wants to get on with his career.
my happiness over the fox trade has me in a giving mood

also, i like having signatures off anyway. the last few months with them on has been frustrating

you are released from the terms of our bet. thanks for being a good sport about it

[stephen jackson]

im happy we got fox now and not waited two years for free agency

[montgod]

depends on the price, but if he says he wants to go to San Antonio...

I saw this and had the same thought. That would be such a great addition if possible. I guess it depends on if he's signing straight up or working a deal w/Suns to come to Spurs (prefer not unless they understand they don't have a choice and take minimal). It also depends on his mindset and how he views the team's ability to win next year with him in the lineup.

[thOOdee]

I think it’s likely that a soft tank was the plan going into the season.
Many of us here advocated for it.
We knew that the West was stacked and it is a good draft to have lottery balls in.
Let our young talent learn to play winning ball from our new veterans but still end up in the lotto.

And I like being patient until a trade is in our favor.
When you don’t act desperate to make a deal you’re likely to get a good one when the time comes.
I think we all agree now that the Spurs won the Fox trade handily.

100%. I know there was a good size segment on here adamant about rushing getting a player to see what sticks to the wall (e.g. dillingham, trae) and even willing to give up this years picks for subpar star power. I would have been good with another two years of middling through the draft extracting the perfect piece. Being patient got them fox for peanuts.

But fox now completely changes the dynamics, and the window to allow for hypervigilance has shrunk significantly because you now risk losing a real possibility of getting a ring for waiting for a more PERFECT piece. With dynasty teams long gone, spurs need to strike now while the irons hot getting wemby's first ring under his belt.

[RC_Drunkford]

100%. I know there was a good size segment on here adamant about rushing getting a player to see what sticks to the wall (e.g. dillingham, trae) and even willing to give up this years picks for subpar star power. I would have been good with another two years of middling through the draft extracting the perfect piece. Being patient got them fox for peanuts.

But fox now completely changes the dynamics, and the window to allow for hypervigilance has shrunk significantly because you now risk losing a real possibility of getting a ring for waiting for a more PERFECT piece. With dynasty teams long gone, spurs need to strike now while the irons hot getting wemby's first ring under his belt.

the truth is somewhere in the middle. We should try to find the 3rd guy to the Wemby/Castle pairing in the draft to have our future big 3 that's on the same timeline for a 15-year run. All we need for that is to have the ATL picks in the lottery and strike gold once. With how versatile Castle is, it doesn't matter which position that person plays as long as it ain't center.

Simultaneously we should also look to add the 3rd piece to the Wemby/Fox duo to have a big 3 right now. That would be ideal, because once those players age or you're in a tight cap situation, you can just swap them out with your draft pick who's already developed with plenty of playoff experience under his belt.

That strategy should create some overlap where you basically have a big 4 with an incredible bench unit and are a superteam that dominates the league for a while. Our future swaps should allow us to add cheap role players via draft that we can then develop on the back end, when cap room gets tight.

[exstatic]

my happiness over the fox trade has me in a giving mood

also, i like having signatures off anyway. the last few months with them on has been frustrating

you are released from the terms of our bet. thanks for being a good sport about it

I always pay my bets. Thanks for the release.

[spurraider21]

I always pay my bets. Thanks for the release.
no prob. i wanted to turn sigs off anyway. im not 15 anymore. needing to scroll through images of girls when trying to read about basketball isnt enjoyable tbh :lol

[exstatic]

no prob. i wanted to turn sigs off anyway. im not 15 anymore. needing to scroll through images of girls when trying to read about basketball isnt enjoyable tbh :lol

I’ve had sigs off for years. Definitely NSFW.

[LeBowen]

Wright should pay attention to what's going on in Dallas, this situation surely can't have a happy ending.
Hopefully Kyrie does his thing and puts the last nail in that roster's coffin.

https://i.imgur.com/mDhpLM0.png

Kyrie can opt out, but we don't care about him.
If everything crumbles, we should be all over both Gafford and Washington.
Both would be a perfect fit, Mavs wouldn't be able to ask for much since they will be on expiring contracts and Harrison is obviously an idiot.

[spurraider21]

I’ve had sigs off for years. Definitely NSFW.
ive been wfh for years now. i just find it annoying :lol

[Mal]

Wright should pay attention to what's going on in Dallas, this situation surely can't have a happy ending.
Hopefully Kyrie does his thing and puts the last nail in that roster's coffin.

https://i.imgur.com/mDhpLM0.png

Kyrie can opt out, but we don't care about him.
If everything crumbles, we should be all over both Gafford and Washington.
Both would be a perfect fit, Mavs wouldn't be able to ask for much since they will be on expiring contracts and Harrison is obviously an idiot.

Kyrie is opting out, to sign extension. Dallas will pay him anything, if Luca trade was not about money

[LeBowen]

Kyrie is opting out, to sign extension. Dallas will pay him anything, if Luca trade was not about money

A couple of days ago they asked him about Luka trade and he said he's still grieving.
Who knows what's going on in there, there will surely be big moves in the summer.
Washington is the player I really like, I don't think he will like playing SF since AD went there to play PF.

[scott]

BKN is the ONLY team who projects to have cap space this summer, according to Keith Smith on the Front Office Show. He's predicting we'll have a wild summer filled with trades as a result. I'm here for it!

One thing that potentially works in our favor - *I think* MEM's moves yesterday gives them room to reneg-and-extend JJJ if he fails to make All NBA *if* they renounce Aldama's cap hold. That would make Santi more available, and I'm here for it (if JJJ makes All-NBA, then they'll be able to resign Santi and just extend JJJ with his bird rights, so we should be rooting against that).

With all that said, something is going to have to give this summer for the Spurs. We'll see how the guys do to close out the year, but moving some combination Vassell/Johnson/Barnes will be the key to unlocking roster upgrades outside of the draft and exceptions this offseason (I don't want to see us move off Black Flacon, he's been great for us this year)

[Seventyniner]

BKN is the ONLY team who projects to have cap space this summer, according to Keith Smith on the Front Office Show. He's predicting we'll have a wild summer filled with trades as a result. I'm here for it!

One thing that potentially works in our favor - *I think* MEM's moves yesterday gives them room to reneg-and-extend JJJ if he fails to make All NBA *if* they renounce Aldama's cap hold. That would make Santi more available, and I'm here for it (if JJJ makes All-NBA, then they'll be able to resign Santi and just extend JJJ with his bird rights, so we should be rooting against that).

With all that said, something is going to have to give this summer for the Spurs. We'll see how the guys do to close out the year, but moving some combination Vassell/Johnson/Barnes will be the key to unlocking roster upgrades outside of the draft and exceptions this offseason (I don't want to see us move off Black Flacon, he's been great for us this year)

Makes sense. Trades will have to fill the void of fewer free agent signings due to lack of teams with cap space.

Wesley and Branham will be on expiring contracts this summer. They could be useful additions to those three guys to aggregate in trades.

[Mal]

A couple of days ago they asked him about Luka trade and he said he's still grieving.
Who knows what's going on in there, there will surely be big moves in the summer.
Washington is the player I really like, I don't think he will like playing SF since AD went there to play PF.

They will offer him 260 mil / 5 or more, which noone else match in free market. No way he walks from that, having already won a ring

[LeBowen]

They will offer him 260 mil / 5 or more, which noone else match in free market. No way he walks from that, having already won a ring

You think a team that didn't want to pay Luka supermax will offer 33 year old Kyrie a 5 year deal?


One thing that potentially works in our favor - *I think* MEM's moves yesterday gives them room to reneg-and-extend JJJ if he fails to make All NBA *if* they renounce Aldama's cap hold. That would make Santi more available, and I'm here for it (if JJJ makes All-NBA, then they'll be able to resign Santi and just extend JJJ with his bird rights, so we should be rooting against that).


Grizzlies will probably finish the season at #2, no way their best player doesn't make all-NBA.

[scott]

Grizzlies will probably finish the season at #2, no way their best player doesn't make all-NBA.

I agree, and at that point our (probably already slim) chances of getting Santi as a FA go way down (I say slim because we would have to do a lot of maneuvering to get cap space in the first place). JJJ will deserve it, but I hope he gets snubbed for selfish reasons. Our improvements this summer are most likely going to need to come through trades or the draft.

[exstatic]

BKN is the ONLY team who projects to have cap space this summer, according to Keith Smith on the Front Office Show. He's predicting we'll have a wild summer filled with trades as a result. I'm here for it!

One thing that potentially works in our favor - *I think* MEM's moves yesterday gives them room to reneg-and-extend JJJ if he fails to make All NBA *if* they renounce Aldama's cap hold. That would make Santi more available, and I'm here for it (if JJJ makes All-NBA, then they'll be able to resign Santi and just extend JJJ with his bird rights, so we should be rooting against that).

With all that said, something is going to have to give this summer for the Spurs. We'll see how the guys do to close out the year, but moving some combination Vassell/Johnson/Barnes will be the key to unlocking roster upgrades outside of the draft and exceptions this offseason (I don't want to see us move off Black Flacon, he's been great for us this year)

Working against that is that 2024 selections Luka and Kawhi are all ineligible due to games played <65. One of those spots will likely be Wemby,but that still leaves an opening for JJJ. Past selections a Jaylen Brown and Spida Mitchell could also be in the mix.

[Mal]

You think a team that didn't want to pay Luka supermax will offer 33 year old Kyrie a 5 year deal?

We will know very soon if Harrison is fuckign moron, or jewish owner are cheap

[LeBowen]

Our improvements this summer are most likely going to need to come through trades or the draft.

That's why I'm switching my priorities to PJ Washington. :lol
Naz is a fan favorite in Minnesota, I doubt he leaves unless they somehow fuck up his extension.
Will be interesting to see if John Collins takes his option, would be nice to convince him to sign a ~80/4 here.

Considering how much PATFO love Devin and Jeremy, I doubt we'll see many changes.
If CP3 stays another year, it's going to be just a couple of new players.

Fox/CP3
Castle/Devin
?/Champ
Barnes/Jeremy
Wemby/?

Focus on getting a legit starting forward, preferably someone in 6'9-6'11 range and get a reliable backup for Wemby.
I don't think we should draft a big unless it's someone ready to contribute right away.
Get the best wing available or trade the pick to get a high end wing starter.
Jeremy gets an extension and that would be about it.

[z0sa]

BKN is the ONLY team who projects to have cap space this summer, according to Keith Smith on the Front Office Show. He's predicting we'll have a wild summer filled with trades as a result. I'm here for it!

One thing that potentially works in our favor - *I think* MEM's moves yesterday gives them room to reneg-and-extend JJJ if he fails to make All NBA *if* they renounce Aldama's cap hold. That would make Santi more available, and I'm here for it (if JJJ makes All-NBA, then they'll be able to resign Santi and just extend JJJ with his bird rights, so we should be rooting against that).

With all that said, something is going to have to give this summer for the Spurs. We'll see how the guys do to close out the year, but moving some combination Vassell/Johnson/Barnes will be the key to unlocking roster upgrades outside of the draft and exceptions this offseason (I don't want to see us move off Black Flacon, he's been great for us this year)

I'm not big on the rumor mill, but judging from Keldon's reactions before the trade deadline and some of the stuff I saw on X/here, I think he's out.

Edit: to add, CP3's body language and even comms have been all over Keldon in at least a dozen games this year for defensive mishaps. It's like the Castle Paul exchange only Keldon just shrugs it off with a look like "nah" and still gets playing time. I know the coaching staff is often dumb, but I think BWright has his finger on the pulse of things.

[exstatic]

I'm not big on the rumor mill, but judging from Keldon's reactions before the trade deadline and some of the stuff I saw on X/here, I think he's out.

Heard a rumor that the Fox trade was originally involving the Pelicans, and Keldon would have been outgoing, but DJ tore his achilles.

[scott]

I'm not big on the rumor mill, but judging from Keldon's reactions before the trade deadline and some of the stuff I saw on X/here, I think he's out.

Edit: to add, CP3's body language and even comms have been all over Keldon in at least a dozen games this year for defensive mishaps. It's like the Castle Paul exchange only Keldon just shrugs it off with a look like "nah" and still gets playing time. I know the coaching staff is often dumb, but I think BWright has his finger on the pulse of things.

It's never too late to do the right thing.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm not big on the rumor mill, but judging from Keldon's reactions before the trade deadline and some of the stuff I saw on X/here, I think he's out.

Edit: to add, CP3's body language and even comms have been all over Keldon in at least a dozen games this year for defensive mishaps. It's like the Castle Paul exchange only Keldon just shrugs it off with a look like "nah" and still gets playing time. I know the coaching staff is often dumb, but I think BWright has his finger on the pulse of things.

Mitch has chewed him out for defensive lapses as well plenty of times. He‘s likely the odd man out.

[tonight...you]

Wright should pay attention to what's going on in Dallas, this situation surely can't have a happy ending.
Hopefully Kyrie does his thing and puts the last nail in that roster's coffin.

https://i.imgur.com/mDhpLM0.png

Kyrie can opt out, but we don't care about him.
If everything crumbles, we should be all over both Gafford and Washington.
Both would be a perfect fit, Mavs wouldn't be able to ask for much since they will be on expiring contracts and Harrison is obviously an idiot.

Honestly Harrison has made amazing decisions as their GM for years.
He's not an idiot
Something else was at work on the Luka/AD trade.

[rjv]

still think the Pacers will be shopping Turner.

[scott]

still think the Pacers will be shopping Turner.

He'll be a free agent, but S&T might be the only way forward for a lot of teams this summer

[exstatic]

still think the Pacers will be shopping Turner.

There was a tweet showing a picture of Turner taking a jumper over Tim, and the caption was “Myles Turner has survived this many trade deadline rumors”

:rollin

[TD 21]

Mentioned this elsewhere a few days ago . . .

Vassell, Barnes, two 1sts (have to see where '25 1sts land before determining which) for Durant.

Something based around Vassell for Porter Jr.

Nuggets would likely want Barnes as well, in part so they could send back Nnaji's relative albatross and Saric.

Spurs could counter with just adding Champagnie to the principle's.

[TD 21]

If the rumor about the Spurs inquiring about Carter Jr. and Bitadze with the Magic was true, I wonder if Vassell was the intent.

Despite the Magic's need for a combo guard who can both create and shoot, they seem intent on avoiding small or smallish guards (White, McCollum, Simons, Sexton) at all cost and are even more conservative than the Spurs, so Vassell for Carter Jr. and Anthony could entice them.

Carter Jr. is injury prone and hasn't looked himself this season (sound familiar?), but at his best would be more or less the ideal second big for this team.

[scott]

Mentioned this elsewhere a few days ago . . .

Vassell, Barnes, two 1sts (have to see where '25 1sts land before determining which) for Durant.

Something based around Vassell for Porter Jr.

Nuggets would likely want Barnes as well, in part so they could send back Nnaji's relative albatross and Saric.

Spurs could counter with just adding Champagnie to the principle's.

I don't see the Spurs adding a high priced guy like Durant or MPJ. Their Big 3 is clearly Wemby/Fox/Castle and I expect them to target complementary pieces. Vassell's contract (likewise, MPJ's) would be fine for a 3rd option, but it's close to 50% over what you should be paying for your 4th option or 6th man (whichever Devin slots to become if not moved).



If the rumor about the Spurs inquiring about Carter Jr. and Bitadze with the Magic was true, I wonder if Vassell was the intent.

Despite the Magic's need for a combo guard who can both create and shoot, they seem intent on avoiding small or smallish guards (White, McCollum, Simons, Sexton) at all cost and are even more conservative than the Spurs, so Vassell for Carter Jr. and Anthony could entice them.

Carter Jr. is injury prone and hasn't looked himself this season (sound familiar?), but at his best would be more or less the ideal second big for this team.

Where have you seen these rumors?

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Wembanyama and Castle won't be high priced for another two and three seasons respectively and they've got Vassell on the books as is.

It's not like they're going to salary dump him, so it's either pay him (and Barnes) that money or consolidate it into one player.

I believe it came from Evan Towns on X. Not saying he's a credible source, but the notion doesn't sound far fetched.

[scott]

Wembanyama and Castle won't be high priced for another two and three seasons respectively and they've got Vassell on the books as is.

It's not like they're going to salary dump him, so it's either pay him (and Barnes) that money or consolidate it into one player.

Those aren't the only two options though. I think more likely the Spurs try to turn Vassell (and maybe Barnes, but Barnes is more accurately priced for his current role) into a player or players who are more appropriate for a 4th/5th option or bench role, or (if they can) picks they can use in another way. I'd be willing to wager that the Spurs will not be consolidating Vassell and Barnes or Keldon into a single $40MM+ player.


I believe it came from Evan Towns on X. Not saying he's a credible source, but the notion doesn't sound far fetched.

He's not.

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Of course it's more likely they retain Barnes and either do likewise with Vassell or try to turn him into something like Carter Jr. and Anthony.

These are ideas, not predictions. Although I do suspect it's more likely than not that one of Vassell or Johnson is traded and that salary slot is turned into a low end starting forward/big.

[spurraider21]

any deal where barnes' salary works, keldon's would work as well

[scott]

Of course it's more likely they retain Barnes and either do likewise with Vassell or try to turn him into something like Carter Jr. and Anthony.

These are ideas, not predictions. Although I do suspect it's more likely than not that one of Vassell or Johnson is traded and that salary slot is turned into a low end starting forward/big.

I hear ya... not trying to shit on your ideas or say they aren't worth of discussion, or claim they are your predictions... just sharing that I don't see the Spurs going that direction.

I could see a Carter Jr. and Anthony kind of move in terms of that tier of player. If Patrick Williams was a better player (as in, worthy of his contract) then something like him and Coby White could be the kind of move that would make sense. (Though I'm not advocating for this or actually suggesting it, because Williams is atrocious. But those are the kinds of players I think would make a lot of sense. Williams' archetype as a starting wing and Coby as a 6th man/3rd guard behind Fox and Castle would make a lot of sense).