Texas response to Corona virus

[Blake]

I lie. I'm wrong all the time

[tholdren]

1277592928555278337

1277613640493998080

Lol you lied about having covid

[RandomGuy]

I thought you said hospitals would all be overwhelmed by now. First ny the n az then fl then tx..... wrong all the time

Not sure why you need to lie to make your case.

I said that we are on track to have the hospitals overwhelmed, unless something changes.

Stand by that, as more data comes in.

[RandomGuy]

You've finally come full circle. You're the annakin to my palpatine

:lol

[RandomGuy]

It's back: https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/infection-rate-in-the-greater-houston-area/

I read that it was taken down to adjust for how ICU capacity was determined.

Kinda what I was thinking. As tempting as it is to go for the sinister explanations, this stuff almost always has some mundane explanation.

That said, the link had some good data.

Scary part:

https://www.tmc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/f-TMC-daily-new-covid-19-hospitalizations-6-29-2020.png

Crazy tholdren can :madrun: trying to explain why that isn't concerning.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1277627671216709632

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1277627673842339840

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1277627677004804102

[ElNono]

Who is Aaron Ginn, tbh?

[boutons_deux]

Ms of uninsured people go to taxpayer-financed ERs because they don't have health insurance, that includes right now infectious C19 victims with serious symptoms.

dumb-as-rock dubya said that show USA has Universal Health Care.

"Hospital-acquired" disease is a well known phenom. eg MRSA

Then, 50K - 100K people die every year due to avoidable health care errors.

[ChumpDumper]

Who is Aaron Ginn, tbh?Judging from his 43 tweets today, he's El Gato Malo's bestie.

[spurraider21]

i mean, yeah they're at 97% capacity now but it's not like cases are slowing down. that's the concern.

[ChumpDumper]

i mean, yeah they're at 97% capacity now but it's not like cases are slowing down. that's the concern.Nope TSA's twitter guys say we just need to Sweden this shit out.

[TSA]

Who is Aaron Ginn, tbh?

Who cares, tbh?

Quotes are pulled from Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

[TSA]

i mean, yeah they're at 97% capacity now but it's not like cases are slowing down. that's the concern.

https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps/story.cfm?nppage=67046

[ChumpDumper]

Aaron left out the closing of the hospital guy he forgot to cite:


“The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps/story.cfm?nppage=67046

It's noteworthy that the children's hospital is keeping about 300 beds open for adult COVID patients they think may come in soon.

[leemajors]

"We're Texans, we can get through this!!" - Dan Crenshaw

[TimDunkem]

"We're Texans, we can get through this!!" - Dan Crenshaw

Eyepatch wanted to open up back in April. :lmao What a joke.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't forget the Texas Republican Convention meets in downtown Houston in three weeks.

No masks required, right Greg?

[spurraider21]

Don't forget the Texas Republican Convention meets in downtown Houston in three weeks.

No masks required, right Greg?
im sure gaetz can loan somebody his gas mask

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1277627671216709632

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1277627673842339840

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1277627677004804102

Hospitals are begging Abbott to let them do non elective surgeries again.

$$

[Blake]

Don't forget the Texas Republican Convention meets in downtown Houston in three weeks.

No masks required, right Greg?

They'll just call it church

[Spurtacular]

They'll just call it church

For why?

[Blake]

For why?

"Washington(CNN)A choir of more than 100 people performed without masks at a robustly attended event in Texas at the First Baptist Church in Dallas on Sunday that featured a speech by Vice President Mike Pence.

Nearly 2,200 people attended the "Celebrate Freedom Rally," in the Lone Star State, according to rally organizers, which has seen a severe surge in coronavirus cases since easing restrictions. The venue capacity for the indoor event was close to 3,000 attendees, organizers say.…........."

[Blake]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/mike-pence-dallas-choir-no-masks-church-event/index.html

[Spurtacular]

"Washington(CNN)A choir of more than 100 people performed without masks at a robustly attended event in Texas at the First Baptist Church in Dallas on Sunday that featured a speech by Vice President Mike Pence.

Nearly 2,200 people attended the "Celebrate Freedom Rally," in the Lone Star State, according to rally organizers, which has seen a severe surge in coronavirus cases since easing restrictions. The venue capacity for the indoor event was close to 3,000 attendees, organizers say.…........."

I get your point. Freedom sucks, amirite?

[ElNono]

Who cares, tbh?

Well, there's no attribution to the quotes, I figured it was him, that's why I was asking.

[ElNono]

Aaron left out the closing of the hospital guy he forgot to cite:


“The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps/story.cfm?nppage=67046

It's noteworthy that the children's hospital is keeping about 300 beds open for adult COVID patients they think may come in soon.

yikes

[tholdren]

yikes

HEALTH

Med Center sees uptick in COVID-19 patients in ICUs; warns if trend continues, capacity could be exceeded in 2 weeks

Robert Arnold, Investigative Reporter

Published: June 4, 2020, 7:49 pm

[tholdren]

Texas ifr less than flu.

[Blake]

"HOUSTON — Hoping to block Gov. Greg Abbott’s Friday decision ordering Texas bars to close due to a rise in coronavirus cases, more than 30 bar owners filed a lawsuit Monday challenging Abbott’s emergency order.

The lawsuit, first reported by the Austin American-Statesman, was filed in Travis County District Court by Jared Woodfill, a Houston attorney who has led previous legal efforts opposing Abbott’s other shutdown orders during the pandemic...."

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/29/texas-bars-sue-greg-abbott/

[Trainwreck2100]

"HOUSTON — Hoping to block Gov. Greg Abbott’s Friday decision ordering Texas bars to close due to a rise in coronavirus cases, more than 30 bar owners filed a lawsuit Monday challenging Abbott’s emergency order.

The lawsuit, first reported by the Austin American-Statesman, was filed in Travis County District Court by Jared Woodfill, a Houston attorney who has led previous legal efforts opposing Abbott’s other shutdown orders during the pandemic...."

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/29/texas-bars-sue-greg-abbott/

Abbott's the one that opened the door to this shit by saying we couldn't close to begin with.

[Monostradamus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EblRdvFUwAAOFAi?format=jpg&name=900x900

[tholdren]

"HOUSTON — Hoping to block Gov. Greg Abbott’s Friday decision ordering Texas bars to close due to a rise in coronavirus cases, more than 30 bar owners filed a lawsuit Monday challenging Abbott’s emergency order.

The lawsuit, first reported by the Austin American-Statesman, was filed in Travis County District Court by Jared Woodfill, a Houston attorney who has led previous legal efforts opposing Abbott’s other shutdown orders during the pandemic...."

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/29/texas-bars-sue-greg-abbott/

The bar owners will win

[Blake]

The bar owners will win

Probably not.

[tholdren]

Probably not.

Hospitals not even close to over capacity

[ChumpDumper]

The forecast calls for straw.

[tholdren]

The forecast calls for straw.
Does it call for kansas?

[ChumpDumper]

Does it call for kansas?Also deflection.

Also ghosts.

Also your bunker.

[tholdren]

Also deflection.

Also ghosts.

Also your bunker.

lol ChumpDumper deflecting lying and accusing people of his schtick

For years.

El nono style

[ChumpDumper]

lol ChumpDumper deflecting lying and accusing people of his schtick

For years.

El nono styleYou're not using my shtick.

You just lie all the time.

[tholdren]

You're not using my shtick.

You just lie all the time.

lol

[tholdren]

texas never in danger of hospital failure. What happened ChumpDumper?

[pgardn]

Running out of bodies to help relive an already overworked staff.
We are bringing people in from other localities like NY had to do.

[tholdren]

Running out of bodies to help relive an already overworked staff.
We are bringing people in from other localities like NY had to do.

lolololol

Pgardn


Llloolo

Low level poster

[pgardn]

lolololol

Pgardn


Llloolo

Low level poster

Excellent.
Precise evidence countering nothing.

[tholdren]

Excellent.
Precise evidence countering nothing.
You're in the group who says hospitals will be overwhelmed but have never been overwhelmed. Seems like your burden of proof. Oh you dont use logic science or math

[ChumpDumper]

texas never in danger of hospital failure. What happened ChumpDumper?What happened was you lied about my saying it was in danger of failure.:tu

[tholdren]

What happened was you lied about my saying it was in danger of failure.:tu

Lol no it wasn't. And you said more than that. You said because of trump nyc needed ships and tents. You keep saying these crazy gossiping things but they never happen, why?

Kind of like youre lying.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol no it wasn't. And you said more than that. You said because of trump nyc needed ships and tents. You keep saying these crazy gossiping things but they never happen, why?

Kind of like youre lying.I said none of this.

Why do you have to constantly lie?

You're not impressing anyone here.

Everyone sees your lies.

It was funny at first but now people are concerned about your mental health.

[tholdren]

I said none of this.

Why do you have to constantly lie?

You're not impressing anyone here.

Everyone sees your lies.

It was funny at first but now people are concerned about your mental health.

bwahahahahaaha 180. Lololl

[tholdren]

He was quite that stupid. He said we had X beds, implying we shoudln't worry, and when I asked him what kind of beds he was talking about, he changd the subject.

He didn't know how the data was compiled, and neither did DarrinS as I am going to point out.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284138&page=63&p=10172420&viewfull=1#post10172420

Originally Posted by DarrinS

Our hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed. It's not difficult.

saving this post too. I hope you are right, but if you are not, I am going to rub your nose in this shitpile

[tholdren]

Originally Posted by DarrinS

Our hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed. It's not difficult.

saving this post too. I hope you are right, but if you are not, I am going to rub your nose in this shitpile

RandomGuy weeks ago. Just like ChumpDumper. Loloololol

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren meltdown

[Blake]

"
Texas reported its latest record-breaking daily increase in cases of the novel coronavirus on Tuesday, with 6,975 new infections identified. The number surpassed Italy's highest single-day jump in virus cases to date, which the nation's health officials confirmed while it was still considered the pandemic's global epicenter....."

https://www.newsweek.com/texas-daily-covid-19-cases-top-italys-record-when-it-was-global-epicenter-1513855

[Blake]

"According to data published by the Ministry of Health, Italy saw its highest single-day increase in cases of the novel virus on March 21, with 6,557 new diagnoses. Texas and Italy reported similar weekly average increases in cases surrounding their respective peaks, with both identifying at least 3,500 new infections per day. Italy's record increase came roughly two weeks into the country's national lockdown, which Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte originally implemented March 9. The country continued to diagnose several thousand new cases daily until early May....."

Yeah, I don't see any way kids start school in the building on day 1 unless everyone collectively just says wgaf let's do it

[Blake]

"AUSTIN, Texas — This past Saturday, Sunday and Monday saw records broken for the number of new, daily cases of COVID-19 in Travis County, according to data from Austin Public Health. A record daily high of 728 new cases was reported Saturday, with 636 new cases reported Sunday and 508 more reported Monday.

Based on a 14-day moving average, the number of virus infections has increased 230%, while testing is up 57%, based on a KVUE data analysis. Daily hospital admissions in Austin have now risen 53.4% over the past 14 days, with 368 people hospitalized, 121 in ICU and 68 on ventilators as of Monday...."

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/austin-covid19-daily-cases-record-broken-june-29/269-009cd940-b694-4de8-99d7-54a72a5c5c78

[midnightpulp]

Raw case increases aren't really a good metric to evaluate spread. Positive rate is the bigger indicator, and yeah, Texas's latest batch of tests came in at 14%. When they were crushing the curve early on, the positive rate was usually single digits from day-to-day. Now they're bouncing around from as high 23% to the mid-teens over their spike.

https://i.imgur.com/ph0TDWk.png

I'm against reopening in principle, but since this country has no coherent plan with a safety net in place to take care of citizens while they lock down, we're unfortunately at the point where we have to weigh the consequences of Covid vs. the consequences of shutting down (again). Not sure what the answer is. Probably a careful reopening with a firm mask mandate.

[LkrFan]

Hey farmers, this is not good
https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1278174021088051200?s=19

SMH

[LkrFan]

Dirty Dan is a problem sons
https://twitter.com/morethanmySLE/status/1278170804077944834?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/HeathMayo/status/1278173418656075776?s=19

Can y'all just impeach him already?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1278217440770457601?s=19

[RandomGuy]

Running out of bodies to help relive an already overworked staff.
We are bringing people in from other localities like NY had to do.

So, yeah, our hospitals are getting overwhelmed.

[RandomGuy]

Raw case increases aren't really a good metric to evaluate spread. Positive rate is the bigger indicator, and yeah, Texas's latest batch of tests came in at 14%. When they were crushing the curve early on, the positive rate was usually single digits from day-to-day. Now they're bouncing around from as high 23% to the mid-teens over their spike.

https://i.imgur.com/ph0TDWk.png

I'm against reopening in principle, but since this country has no coherent plan with a safety net in place to take care of citizens while they lock down, we're unfortunately at the point where we have to weigh the consequences of Covid vs. the consequences of shutting down (again). Not sure what the answer is. Probably a careful reopening with a firm mask mandate.

Wishful thinking in Texas. State government is run by the anti-science party.

Wonder how many people will have to needlessly die before that changes?

Positive rate was 3% a few weeks ago, if memory serves. Then it tripled to 9%. Then the insane human behind tholdren had to kick into gibberish overdrive.

[boutons_deux]

Wonder how many people will have to needlessly die before that changes?

Repugs/Capitalism don't care. Business overwhelms all other values

The priorities are amassing Capital and the political power that it buys (it's cheap)

[RandomGuy]

"AUSTIN, Texas — This past Saturday, Sunday and Monday saw records broken for the number of new, daily cases of COVID-19 in Travis County, according to data from Austin Public Health. A record daily high of 728 new cases was reported Saturday, with 636 new cases reported Sunday and 508 more reported Monday.

Based on a 14-day moving average, the number of virus infections has increased 230%, while testing is up 57%, based on a KVUE data analysis. Daily hospital admissions in Austin have now risen 53.4% over the past 14 days, with 368 people hospitalized, 121 in ICU and 68 on ventilators as of Monday...."

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/austin-covid19-daily-cases-record-broken-june-29/269-009cd940-b694-4de8-99d7-54a72a5c5c78

Hospitalizations will lag the increased caseload by a week or two. Next week will be... bad.

[RandomGuy]

Galveston county is the only county in Texas where covid patients exceeded 10% of hospital bed capacity.

Average across the state is 6.3%

"all beds matter" :lol

still think that?

How many times are the stupid fucking talking points you suck up from Fox "news" or whatever conservative echo chamber you pay attention to going to have be be destroyed by reality before your dumb ass finally starts getting skeptical about how much you are being lied to?

I want to be kind here, but after more than a decade of pointing this out to you, you still have yet to do so. That is some epic confirmation bias.

[RandomGuy]

Repugs/Capitalism don't care. Business overwhelms all other values

The priorities are amassing Capital and the political power that it buys (it's cheap)

Pretty much.

[RandomGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EblRdvFUwAAOFAi?format=jpg&name=900x900

The same people who think that armed guards in school, bulletproof backpacks, and active shooter drills are acceptable costs for "ma freedoms" can't be inconvenienced for a few minutes in stores.

[RandomGuy]

th:lolldren meltdown

Dude is seriously insane. Him and Cosmored are cut from the same cloth. Cosmored is not quite as lazy tho.

[TSA]

"AUSTIN, Texas — This past Saturday, Sunday and Monday saw records broken for the number of new, daily cases of COVID-19 in Travis County, according to data from Austin Public Health. A record daily high of 728 new cases was reported Saturday, with 636 new cases reported Sunday and 508 more reported Monday.

Based on a 14-day moving average, the number of virus infections has increased 230%, while testing is up 57%, based on a KVUE data analysis. Daily hospital admissions in Austin have now risen 53.4% over the past 14 days, with 368 people hospitalized, 121 in ICU and 68 on ventilators as of Monday...."

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/austin-covid19-daily-cases-record-broken-june-29/269-009cd940-b694-4de8-99d7-54a72a5c5c78

https://mobile.twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1278146447712481281

https://mobile.twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1278149734893420545

[pgardn]

RandomGuy weeks ago. Just like ChumpDumper. Loloololol

they have been overwhelmed.

private hospitals like the Methodist in San Antonio are already looking for workers right now why don’t you sign up?

The staffing can’t handle this load you fucking idiot

[Monostradamus]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1278146447712481281

https://mobile.twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1278149734893420545
:lmao the right is obsessed with retweeting subservient self-loathing asians

[RandomGuy]

Our hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed. It's not difficult.

Be sure to apologize to the health care workers, when they get there next week.

[RandomGuy]

[tweets pointing out fatality rate is dropping]]

Good news and good points all.

What happens to the mortality rate if the health care system gets overwhelmed?

[pgardn]

These idiots also have no idea how hospitals work

they still have to take patients that need care for other than Covid

they have to staff different floors in different manners and the Covid floors require extreme caution and completely different ventilation. so the idiot theoldren purely concentrates on beds

like the hospitals are supposed to mix and match Covid patients with patients that need back surgery or whatever

it’s incredibly disingenuous and they know it

[pgardn]

If people in San Antonio will read they will discover that Methodist has rigged some of their floors to be able to handle Covid patients with a very good ventilation system.

but they can’t do that everywhere.

some private healthcare providers can’t even take Covid patients
but they have beds

so keep up with this Folly red team

[TSA]

Good news and good points all.

What happens to the mortality rate if the health care system gets overwhelmed?

Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

Hospital CEOs from Houston’s Largest Hospital Systems Discuss Capacity and COVID-19 Surge Plans

THE WOODLANDS, TX – Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise, as well as the reiteration that it is vitally important for our community to do its part in order to flatten this new surge.

The following are statements made by each CEO that summarize their key points –

Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist

“What you’ve been hearing is a report that we are at 97 percent or so capacity across the Texas medical center. At Houston Methodist, we’re somewhere in the low 90s right now in terms of capacity of ICU beds, but let me put that in perspective … June 25 2019, exactly one year ago … It was at 95 percent. We are highly experienced at utilizing our ICU beds for the sickest of the sick patients day in day out … and it is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s. That’s how all of us operate hospitals, and how all hospitals operate.”

“The capacity that’s being reported is base capacity … we have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds that we can utilize for COVID.”

“We have, across Houston Methodist, 24 hundred beds 330 or so of those are our ICU beds on a normal day, but there is an ability to flex beds back and forth. We can turn regular beds into ICU as we need to with appropriate staff, ventilators, and other equipment. We can turn many other areas in the hospital like some of the recovery areas, pre and post surgical areas, and places like that into ICUs.”

“We are seeing younger patients, we are seeing a shorter length of stay, we are seeing lower immortality, and we are seeing lower ICU utilization right now.”

“People need to come to the hospital when they have clinical issues … People need to come to the hospital or emergency department to receive care and not allow bad things to happen to them because they are somehow inaccurately afraid of coming to the hospitals. That’s a very key message.”

“The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

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Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health

“Running a major hospital health system is truly as much of an art as it is a science. We work hard to staff to the volumes that we’re seeing on a day to day basis, and if we’re doing our jobs well we’re really matching our staffing to the patients who need us on a day to day basis.”

“The reality is our capacity to care for those patients significantly exceeds what we’re staffing on any given day … we’re also actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming weeks and months.”

As you look at the capacity of the hospitals on a day-to-day basis, it can be a little misleading. The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month basis.”

“Our hospitals are incredibly safe. We have learned how to make better use of our PPE, we have stock piled appropriate numbers of PPE so that that is no longer the issue that it was early on in the disease process, our clinicians are much more comfortable caring for the patients than they ever were, and the hospitals are really doing quite well in caring for these patients.”

“The businesses across Houston, we’re asking you directly to reinforce [safety guidelines] within your business areas, monitor your capacity, make sure that [there is] adequate room for people to move about safely within your organizations.”

“We’re all concerned about the spread of this virus… the reality is we have to do a better job [with] hand hygiene, and socially distancing ourselves. The spread is increasing and incredibly concerning, however our hospitals are okay and ready to manage this surge appropriately and effectively.”

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Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital

Texas Children’s Hospital is the largest children’s hospital in the country. “This morning’s census is down because we really just started building back up our elective procedures and admissions …[it’s] really high for a children’s hospital, but it’s low for Texas Children’s Hospital ... our census this morning is 581 patients. That’s a 68 percent occupancy. Typically Children’s Texas Hospital this time of year without the pandemic, our census would be running much much closer to 700, 725, maybe even 750, so much closer to 90 or 95 percent.”

“One day last November, our census hit 823 in one single day and our employees and our medical staff managed that and it really wasn’t a problem or an issue … so we know that we can flex up to 823 should that be necessary.”

“Of our 859 operational beds, 355 of them are ICU and NICU beds … [today] we have 43 empty vacant ICU beds. That’s a 74 percent occupancy.”

“We are taking care of COVID pediatric patients and we have been since the very inception and as was announced earlier this week we have already started accepting referrals from some of the adult hospitals in Houston … and that speaks to the fact that we do have capacity … we have plenty of capacity to take care of the children that need to get to the door step of Children’s Texas Hospital.”

“We need people to stay at home when they can work at home … it’s imperative that we keep our workforce healthy as we go through this pandemic … We’re asking the public to please help us, help our employees, help our nurses … we need to be serving them, making sure that the community is doing their part to keep them healthy.”

“All of us on this call today, we approach this from a very mission-oriented basis. We’re going to be here to fulfill our missions, take care of the patients and families that need to be taken care of, and we’re going to take good care of our employees and our medical staff. That’s our promise, that’s our pledge, and that’s what it has been for the Texas Medical Center for nearly 75 years.”

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Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System closed out the meeting with this – “Our goal has been for the hospital operators, the people who actually manage bed capacity, to be clear that we’re not in imminent danger of running out of bed capacity here in Houston to care of COVID patients, or those who have other illnesses that require hospital care. We work every day to manage very complex patients across all of our facilities and are used to making adjustments on the fly, and that’s what we’re currently doing. We think it’s very important for the community to engage, to lock arms, to work a little harder at following these guidelines, using these measures that we’ve now proven in our hospitals will limit the transmission of COVID 19. Please help us help Houston.”

https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps/story.cfm?nppage=67046

[DarrinS]

I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.

[Blake]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1278146447712481281

https://mobile.twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1278149734893420545

Possible reasons why the death rate has been falling lately have already been discussed but thanks for that tweet from "trinhomics".

Be sure to come back if/when the death rate goes back up :tu

[Blake]

Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

Hospital CEOs from Houston’s Largest Hospital Systems Discuss Capacity and COVID-19 Surge Plans

THE WOODLANDS, TX – Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise, as well as the reiteration that it is vitally important for our community to do its part in order to flatten this new surge.

The following are statements made by each CEO that summarize their key points –

Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist

“What you’ve been hearing is a report that we are at 97 percent or so capacity across the Texas medical center. At Houston Methodist, we’re somewhere in the low 90s right now in terms of capacity of ICU beds, but let me put that in perspective … June 25 2019, exactly one year ago … It was at 95 percent. We are highly experienced at utilizing our ICU beds for the sickest of the sick patients day in day out … and it is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s. That’s how all of us operate hospitals, and how all hospitals operate.”

“The capacity that’s being reported is base capacity … we have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds that we can utilize for COVID.”

“We have, across Houston Methodist, 24 hundred beds 330 or so of those are our ICU beds on a normal day, but there is an ability to flex beds back and forth. We can turn regular beds into ICU as we need to with appropriate staff, ventilators, and other equipment. We can turn many other areas in the hospital like some of the recovery areas, pre and post surgical areas, and places like that into ICUs.”

“We are seeing younger patients, we are seeing a shorter length of stay, we are seeing lower immortality, and we are seeing lower ICU utilization right now.”

“People need to come to the hospital when they have clinical issues … People need to come to the hospital or emergency department to receive care and not allow bad things to happen to them because they are somehow inaccurately afraid of coming to the hospitals. That’s a very key message.”

“The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

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Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health

“Running a major hospital health system is truly as much of an art as it is a science. We work hard to staff to the volumes that we’re seeing on a day to day basis, and if we’re doing our jobs well we’re really matching our staffing to the patients who need us on a day to day basis.”

“The reality is our capacity to care for those patients significantly exceeds what we’re staffing on any given day … we’re also actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming weeks and months.”

As you look at the capacity of the hospitals on a day-to-day basis, it can be a little misleading. The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month basis.”

“Our hospitals are incredibly safe. We have learned how to make better use of our PPE, we have stock piled appropriate numbers of PPE so that that is no longer the issue that it was early on in the disease process, our clinicians are much more comfortable caring for the patients than they ever were, and the hospitals are really doing quite well in caring for these patients.”

“The businesses across Houston, we’re asking you directly to reinforce [safety guidelines] within your business areas, monitor your capacity, make sure that [there is] adequate room for people to move about safely within your organizations.”

“We’re all concerned about the spread of this virus… the reality is we have to do a better job [with] hand hygiene, and socially distancing ourselves. The spread is increasing and incredibly concerning, however our hospitals are okay and ready to manage this surge appropriately and effectively.”

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Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital

Texas Children’s Hospital is the largest children’s hospital in the country. “This morning’s census is down because we really just started building back up our elective procedures and admissions …[it’s] really high for a children’s hospital, but it’s low for Texas Children’s Hospital ... our census this morning is 581 patients. That’s a 68 percent occupancy. Typically Children’s Texas Hospital this time of year without the pandemic, our census would be running much much closer to 700, 725, maybe even 750, so much closer to 90 or 95 percent.”

“One day last November, our census hit 823 in one single day and our employees and our medical staff managed that and it really wasn’t a problem or an issue … so we know that we can flex up to 823 should that be necessary.”

“Of our 859 operational beds, 355 of them are ICU and NICU beds … [today] we have 43 empty vacant ICU beds. That’s a 74 percent occupancy.”

“We are taking care of COVID pediatric patients and we have been since the very inception and as was announced earlier this week we have already started accepting referrals from some of the adult hospitals in Houston … and that speaks to the fact that we do have capacity … we have plenty of capacity to take care of the children that need to get to the door step of Children’s Texas Hospital.”

“We need people to stay at home when they can work at home … it’s imperative that we keep our workforce healthy as we go through this pandemic … We’re asking the public to please help us, help our employees, help our nurses … we need to be serving them, making sure that the community is doing their part to keep them healthy.”

“All of us on this call today, we approach this from a very mission-oriented basis. We’re going to be here to fulfill our missions, take care of the patients and families that need to be taken care of, and we’re going to take good care of our employees and our medical staff. That’s our promise, that’s our pledge, and that’s what it has been for the Texas Medical Center for nearly 75 years.”

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Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System closed out the meeting with this – “Our goal has been for the hospital operators, the people who actually manage bed capacity, to be clear that we’re not in imminent danger of running out of bed capacity here in Houston to care of COVID patients, or those who have other illnesses that require hospital care. We work every day to manage very complex patients across all of our facilities and are used to making adjustments on the fly, and that’s what we’re currently doing. We think it’s very important for the community to engage, to lock arms, to work a little harder at following these guidelines, using these measures that we’ve now proven in our hospitals will limit the transmission of COVID 19. Please help us help Houston.”

https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps/story.cfm?nppage=67046

"$ Please let us do elective surgeries again, governor. We promise to give you whatever numbers you want to hear $"

[RandomGuy]

Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

Good to see they have the surge capacity. Odds are looking like they will need it. One has to wonder how much of that was simple "reassure the public' PR.

Holy moly, we just had our first reasonable, mature exchange in months.

Yah.

[Blake]

I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.

Lol "I'm hearing"

[DarrinS]

Lol "I'm hearing"

I know people. Now crawl back under your bed.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao the right is obsessed with retweeting subservient self-loathing asians

That said, she did post a good link.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53192532

Better care, and less vulnerable patients being seen.

Problem with that though, is that the more widespread the disease in the general population the odds of a vulnerable person getting it go up drastically.

[Blake]

I know people. Now crawl back under your bed.

Lol "I know people"

Go back to your bar ..oh wait

[RandomGuy]

I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.

Dovetails with the BBC article. Younger and less vulnerable, which is exactly the same thing one of the CEOs in TSA's article pointed out. Very good to know, and three separate sources.

I don't think that will hold though, as the virus gets vastly more widespread.

and

It is still deadly for the elderly.

[pgardn]

Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

Hospital CEOs from Houston’s Largest Hospital Systems Discuss Capacity and COVID-19 Surge Plans

THE WOODLANDS, TX – Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise, as well as the reiteration that it is vitally important for our community to do its part in order to flatten this new surge.

The following are statements made by each CEO that summarize their key points –

Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist

“What you’ve been hearing is a report that we are at 97 percent or so capacity across the Texas medical center. At Houston Methodist, we’re somewhere in the low 90s right now in terms of capacity of ICU beds, but let me put that in perspective … June 25 2019, exactly one year ago … It was at 95 percent. We are highly experienced at utilizing our ICU beds for the sickest of the sick patients day in day out … and it is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s. That’s how all of us operate hospitals, and how all hospitals operate.”

“The capacity that’s being reported is base capacity … we have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds that we can utilize for COVID.”

“We have, across Houston Methodist, 24 hundred beds 330 or so of those are our ICU beds on a normal day, but there is an ability to flex beds back and forth. We can turn regular beds into ICU as we need to with appropriate staff, ventilators, and other equipment. We can turn many other areas in the hospital like some of the recovery areas, pre and post surgical areas, and places like that into ICUs.”

“We are seeing younger patients, we are seeing a shorter length of stay, we are seeing lower immortality, and we are seeing lower ICU utilization right now.”

“People need to come to the hospital when they have clinical issues … People need to come to the hospital or emergency department to receive care and not allow bad things to happen to them because they are somehow inaccurately afraid of coming to the hospitals. That’s a very key message.”

“The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

---------

Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health

“Running a major hospital health system is truly as much of an art as it is a science. We work hard to staff to the volumes that we’re seeing on a day to day basis, and if we’re doing our jobs well we’re really matching our staffing to the patients who need us on a day to day basis.”

“The reality is our capacity to care for those patients significantly exceeds what we’re staffing on any given day … we’re also actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming weeks and months.”

As you look at the capacity of the hospitals on a day-to-day basis, it can be a little misleading. The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month basis.”

“Our hospitals are incredibly safe. We have learned how to make better use of our PPE, we have stock piled appropriate numbers of PPE so that that is no longer the issue that it was early on in the disease process, our clinicians are much more comfortable caring for the patients than they ever were, and the hospitals are really doing quite well in caring for these patients.”

“The businesses across Houston, we’re asking you directly to reinforce [safety guidelines] within your business areas, monitor your capacity, make sure that [there is] adequate room for people to move about safely within your organizations.”

“We’re all concerned about the spread of this virus… the reality is we have to do a better job [with] hand hygiene, and socially distancing ourselves. The spread is increasing and incredibly concerning, however our hospitals are okay and ready to manage this surge appropriately and effectively.”

---------

Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital

Texas Children’s Hospital is the largest children’s hospital in the country. “This morning’s census is down because we really just started building back up our elective procedures and admissions …[it’s] really high for a children’s hospital, but it’s low for Texas Children’s Hospital ... our census this morning is 581 patients. That’s a 68 percent occupancy. Typically Children’s Texas Hospital this time of year without the pandemic, our census would be running much much closer to 700, 725, maybe even 750, so much closer to 90 or 95 percent.”

“One day last November, our census hit 823 in one single day and our employees and our medical staff managed that and it really wasn’t a problem or an issue … so we know that we can flex up to 823 should that be necessary.”

“Of our 859 operational beds, 355 of them are ICU and NICU beds … [today] we have 43 empty vacant ICU beds. That’s a 74 percent occupancy.”

“We are taking care of COVID pediatric patients and we have been since the very inception and as was announced earlier this week we have already started accepting referrals from some of the adult hospitals in Houston … and that speaks to the fact that we do have capacity … we have plenty of capacity to take care of the children that need to get to the door step of Children’s Texas Hospital.”

“We need people to stay at home when they can work at home … it’s imperative that we keep our workforce healthy as we go through this pandemic … We’re asking the public to please help us, help our employees, help our nurses … we need to be serving them, making sure that the community is doing their part to keep them healthy.”

“All of us on this call today, we approach this from a very mission-oriented basis. We’re going to be here to fulfill our missions, take care of the patients and families that need to be taken care of, and we’re going to take good care of our employees and our medical staff. That’s our promise, that’s our pledge, and that’s what it has been for the Texas Medical Center for nearly 75 years.”

---------

Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System closed out the meeting with this – “Our goal has been for the hospital operators, the people who actually manage bed capacity, to be clear that we’re not in imminent danger of running out of bed capacity here in Houston to care of COVID patients, or those who have other illnesses that require hospital care. We work every day to manage very complex patients across all of our facilities and are used to making adjustments on the fly, and that’s what we’re currently doing. We think it’s very important for the community to engage, to lock arms, to work a little harder at following these guidelines, using these measures that we’ve now proven in our hospitals will limit the transmission of COVID 19. Please help us help Houston.”

https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps/story.cfm?nppage=67046

These are private hospitals.
You think you are going to get the real juice out of them?
they were already understaffed to begin with, they try to MAKE money.
What some of these guys are saying is we can mix Covid patients with other patients, or completely remove other patients to different floors which is a gigantic mess that causes them to lose a ton of money.

You expect them to say we were not ready to begin with?
Because they were not. They are not in good shape because our health care system does not work and their hospitals were already cost cutting from way back.

The Methodist ... You want to find out the real story, you go work there and see.

[RandomGuy]

"$ Please let us do elective surgeries again, governor. We promise to give you whatever numbers you want to hear $"

Good point. They have a lot of profit motive in making the case that everything is fine, which should leave anybody rational to be a bit skeptical.

We will see, and I would prefer to hear from the front line, because I know how out of touch a CEO can be at times to ground reality. (Trump *cough* *cough)

[pgardn]

I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.

there are clearly a lot of younger people who just want to have some sort of normalcy in their lives.
Party!
They should not have gone in the first place. Now they cant/should not see their relatives.
And this is what makes this so difficult. Different people have very different strategies in dealing with this. Holing up and becoming a hermit, I will party everywhere with everyone its a big hoax, the extremes. We have age divisions, political divisions, ethnic divisions...

We have learned so much about people in general through this thing.
Personally I have much less faith that people actually care about others.

[DarrinS]

there are clearly a lot of younger people who just want to have some sort of normalcy in their lives.
Party!
They should not have gone in the first place. Now they cant/should not see their relatives.
And this is what makes this so difficult. Different people have very different strategies in dealing with this. Holing up and becoming a hermit, I will party everywhere with everyone its a big hoax, the extremes. We have age divisions, political divisions, ethnic divisions...

We have learned so much about people in general through this thing.
Personally I have much less faith that people actually care about others.


I'm just treating everyone as if they're covid-positive, even my kids.

[pgardn]

Good point. They have a lot of profit motive in making the case that everything is fine, which should leave anybody rational to be a bit skeptical.

We will see, and I would prefer to hear from the front line, because I know how out of touch a CEO can be at times to ground reality. (Trump *cough* *cough)

Absolutely.
The people who work at these places are very familiar with the cost cutting measures so these hospitals can stay afloat.
Our health care system is very very tough on hospitals.

[pgardn]

I'm just treating everyone as if they're covid-positive, even my kids.

Pretty much the same here except my wife of course.
We go down together (on reflection thatdoes not sound very appropriate)
But I will get outside as much as possible and do all the exercising and fishing that is the biggest part of my life.
Luckily the activities dont involve getting around many people inside.
I am going crazy not being able to swim laps though, I really miss that. Swimming was really taking a load off my legs.

[Blake]

I'm just treating everyone as if they're covid-positive, even my kids.

Do your drinking buddies drink through a mask at the bar?

[TimDunkem]

1 in 5 people in SA hospitals are in the ICU. Many people getting sick in the SA area are going to the hospital to get tested meaning they aren't feeling mild symptoms. A large portion of these new cases in the area are more than mildly symptomatic.

[DarrinS]

Pretty much the same here except my wife of course.
We go down together (on reflection thatdoes not sound very appropriate)
But I will get outside as much as possible and do all the exercising and fishing that is the biggest part of my life.
Luckily the activities dont involve getting around many people inside.
I am going crazy not being able to swim laps though, I really miss that. Swimming was really taking a load off my legs.

:lol

I try to spend a lot of time outside. Luckily, I have a pool. Good enough for short laps. :lol

[DarrinS]

1 in 5 people in SA hospitals are in the ICU. Many people getting sick in the SA area are going to the hospital to get tested meaning they aren't feeling mild symptoms. A large portion of these new cases in the area are more than mildly symptomatic.

I would imagine if you're going to the hospital to get tested, you tend to be more sick. That doesn't mean there aren't a large number of mild cases.

[TimDunkem]

I would imagine if you're going to the hospital to get tested, you tend to be more sick. That doesn't mean there aren't a large number of mild cases.

No, but it's a large percentage. Also the one in five who are admitted and go into intensive care isn't something to ignore.

[pgardn]

:lol

I try to spend a lot of time outside. Luckily, I have a pool. Good enough for short laps. :lol

Invite me over.
Ill rip all the water out of that pool.

I did get to swim and snorkel in the Llano river on a stretch no one wants to paddle up.
But you see all the beauty and you just cant do laps in a river that flows, feels wrong.
I need to see lines and lane markers.

[ElNono]

Possible reasons why the death rate has been falling lately have already been discussed but thanks for that tweet from "trinhomics".

Be sure to come back if/when the death rate goes back up :tu

Was going to say... these kind of posts have not aged well in this pandemic so far... hope that changes.

[vy65]

Houston: 2000 less confirmed cases than the day before (still over 40,000 though) and test positivity rate down 7% from 3 days ago (still at 15%)

[Blake]

"(CNN)Betty and Curtis Tarpley were together for most of their lives -- they went to the same high school in Illinois, met and fell in love in California as adults, got married, and raised two kids.

On June 18, after 53 years as a married couple, the two died from coronavirus within an hour of each other in a Texas hospital, spending their last moments together holding hands, their son told CNN.
Tim Tarpley said his mom, who was 80, had been sick for a few days when he took her to Texas Health Harris Methodist Hospital Fort Worth and found out she had Covid-19.

She was admitted on June 9 and his 79-year-old dad was admitted on the 11th......"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/us/coronavirus-couple-holding-hands-trnd/index.html



I hope the Lt governor thanks the family for their sacrifice

[Blake]

"HOUSTON — At Lyndon B. Johnson Hospital on Sunday, the medical staff ran out of both space for new coronavirus patients and a key drug needed to treat them. With no open beds at the public hospital, a dozen COVID-19 patients who were in need of intensive care were stuck in the emergency room, awaiting transfers to other Houston area hospitals, according to a note sent to the staff and shared with reporters.

A day later, the top physician executive at the Houston Methodist hospital system wrote to staff members warning that its coronavirus caseload was surging: “It has become necessary to consider delaying more surgical services to create further capacity for COVID-19 patients,” Dr. Robert Phillips said in the note, an abrupt turn from three days earlier, when the hospital system sent a note to thousands of patients, inviting them to keep their surgical appointments.

And at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, staff members were alerted recently that the hospital would soon begin taking in cancer patients with COVID-19 from the city’s overburdened public hospital system, a highly unusual move for the specialty hospital.

These internal messages highlight the growing strain that the coronavirus crisis is putting on hospital systems in the Houston region, where the number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 has nearly quadrupled since Memorial Day. As of Tuesday, more than 3,000 people were hospitalized for the coronavirus in the region, including nearly 800 in intensive care...."

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/01/coronavirus-texas-houston-hospitals-cases-surge/

[TSA]

"HOUSTON — At Lyndon B. Johnson Hospital on Sunday, the medical staff ran out of both space for new coronavirus patients and a key drug needed to treat them. With no open beds at the public hospital, a dozen COVID-19 patients who were in need of intensive care were stuck in the emergency room, awaiting transfers to other Houston area hospitals, according to a note sent to the staff and shared with reporters.

A day later, the top physician executive at the Houston Methodist hospital system wrote to staff members warning that its coronavirus caseload was surging: “It has become necessary to consider delaying more surgical services to create further capacity for COVID-19 patients,” Dr. Robert Phillips said in the note, an abrupt turn from three days earlier, when the hospital system sent a note to thousands of patients, inviting them to keep their surgical appointments.

And at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, staff members were alerted recently that the hospital would soon begin taking in cancer patients with COVID-19 from the city’s overburdened public hospital system, a highly unusual move for the specialty hospital.

These internal messages highlight the growing strain that the coronavirus crisis is putting on hospital systems in the Houston region, where the number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 has nearly quadrupled since Memorial Day. As of Tuesday, more than 3,000 people were hospitalized for the coronavirus in the region, including nearly 800 in intensive care...."

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/01/coronavirus-texas-houston-hospitals-cases-surge/

Would be interesting to see how many of these Houston cases are linked to Floyd's protest and funeral.

[ChumpDumper]

Would be interesting to see how many of these Houston cases are linked to Floyd's protest and funeral.:lol every single time

[baseline bum]

Would be interesting to see how many of these Houston cases are linked to Floyd's protest and funeral.

And also how many are linked to the Balous Miller recovery. Probably more people eating out than protesting in Houston.

[ChumpDumper]

And also how many are linked to the Balous Miller recovery. Probably more people eating out than protesting in Houston.No, TSA doesn't find that interesting at all.

[boutons_deux]

ACL 2020 cancelled

[RandomGuy]

Would be interesting to see how many of these Houston cases are linked to Floyd's protest and funeral.


“To tell you the truth, what worries me is not this week, where we’re still kind of handling it,” said Roberta Schwartz, Houston Methodist’s chief innovation officer, who’s been helping lead the system’s efforts to expand beds for COVID-19 patents. “I’m really worried about next week.”

Not as many as will be linked to bars and restaurants being open, and not as many by a long shot, because the protests ended and a lot more people are in bars and restaruants day in day out.

[baseline bum]

More than 8000 new cases in Texas today, just saw it on the news.

[MannyIsGod]

More than 8000 new cases in Texas today, just saw it on the news.

Probably all BLM activists. Hope Soros is paying for their healthcare.

[Spurminator]

Would be interesting to see how many of these Houston cases are linked to Floyd's protest and funeral.

The Trumptards have been given their talking points and they're not going to let up. Math be damned.

[TimDunkem]

More than 8000 new cases in Texas today, just saw it on the news.
Might hit 10k per day by this time next week. Maybe sooner.

[koriwhat]

Probably all BLM activists. Hope Soros is paying for their healthcare.

Lol

[koriwhat]

The Trumptards have been given their talking points and they're not going to let up. Math be damned.

You mean like only trump rallies account for new cases and not protests all over the nation and world? Pop science said the protests actually brought the numbers down... lmfao

[koriwhat]

.

[baseline bum]

Probably all BLM activists. Hope Soros is paying for their healthcare.

Man if the data actually showed the protests were a main driver of new cases Paxton would have wheeled Abbott out to yell that out from the rooftops.

[baseline bum]

Might hit 10k per day by this time next week. Maybe sooner.

Next week? We're only half way through this one. :lol

[DarrinS]

Not as many as will be linked to bars and restaurants being open, and not as many by a long shot, because the protests ended and a lot more people are in bars and restaruants day in day out.

It's not just bars and restaurants. Kids are hanging out together like covid is not even a thing.

[MannyIsGod]

Man if the data actually showed the protests were a main driver of new cases Paxton would have wheeled Abbott out to yell that out from the rooftops.

100%

I'm sure that there was spread at the protests, but its telling Abbott went after the bars right away. They have data they can't realease from contact tracing due to HIPA but they know where this shit is coming from. Also amazing that places like NY where there was even larger protests haven't seen the increases we have.


Its almost like indoor dining, bars, and the general stupidity of places like AZ, TX, and FL are more important factors.

[Spurminator]

This message is hidden because koriwhat is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[boutons_deux]

1278132917873582089

[Blake]

"For the second day in a row, state health officials Wednesday reported record numbers of new COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, raising concerns ahead of the Fourth of July holiday weekend.

The Texas Department of State Health Services reported 8,076 new COVID-19 cases, marking the first time Texas crossed the 8,000 threshold for cases in a single day. The new cases jumped by more than 1,000 from Tuesday's record-setting number.

In addition, the 6,904 lab-confirmed COVID-19 patients in Texas hospitals set a record high for the third day in a row.

The continuing spike in cases and hospitalizations come as Texas has seen a surge in younger people testing positive for the coronavirus and increased outbreaks in child care facilities. It also came a day after Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick criticized one of the nation's top infectious disease experts as overly partisan and frequently wrong........"

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200701/texas-hits-record-8000-new-coronavirus-cases-hospitalizations-near-7000

[TSA]

100%

I'm sure that there was spread at the protests, but its telling Abbott went after the bars right away. They have data they can't realease from contact tracing due to HIPA but they know where this shit is coming from. Also amazing that places like NY where there was even larger protests haven't seen the increases we have.


Its almost like indoor dining, bars, and the general stupidity of places like AZ, TX, and FL are more important factors.

Hot weather drives people indoors where the virus spreads more easily, it’s not shocking to see states like AZ, TX, FL, and CA all seeing spikes.

[Blake]

Hot weather drives people indoors where the virus spreads more easily


EXCEPT FOR THE OUTDOOR BLM PROTESTORS

[TSA]

This message is hidden because koriwhat is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Honestly what is the point of posting this? It gives said ignored poster more attention than just ignoring them. If I did this every time Chumpdumper responded to me the forum would be littered with thousands of these.

[TSA]

EXCEPT FOR THE OUTDOOR BLM PROTESTORS

I can support the peaceful protests and question their impact on the spread of the virus at the same time, it’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

[Blake]

I can support the peaceful protests and question their impact on the spread of the virus at the same time, it’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

I completely get it. It's an indoor virus unless outside protesting black deaths. No need to explain.

[boutons_deux]

Hot weather drives people indoors where the virus spreads more easily, it’s not shocking to see states like AZ, TX, FL, and CA all seeing spikes.

:lol :lol :lol Spinmeister

C19 spreads MOSTLY indoors.

AZ, SoCal, Confederacy have been in high enough heat to have been in A/C already for weeks.

[spurraider21]

It's not just bars and restaurants. Kids are hanging out together like covid is not even a thing.


I've been out and about since the beginning. Even went to bars. You just need to use common sense tbh.

[baseline bum]

Hot weather drives people indoors where the virus spreads more easily, it’s not shocking to see states like AZ, TX, FL, and CA all seeing spikes.

Man summer weather starts at the end of April out here.

[pgardn]

Man summer weather starts at the end of April out here.

Real men eat fire.
I ate a rat on fire and refused to wear a mask.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol pretending everyone was camping the entire spring and decided to go back inside just when Operation Balous went into effect.

[TimDunkem]

Next week? We're only half way through this one. :lol

:lol I'm being generous. Shit is getting bad quick.

[TSA]

I completely get it. It's an indoor virus unless outside protesting black deaths. No need to explain.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you the one who ran in here to post about the Lake of the Ozarks pool party?

[pgardn]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you the one who ran in here to post about the Lake of the Ozarks pool party?

Ill take the Lake of the Ozarks pool party outside rather than inside.
But I really wont take it either way.

[TSA]

I completely get it. It's an indoor virus unless outside protesting black deaths. No need to explain.

Here’s a shitload of graphs for FL, TX, AZ, and CA with phased reopenings and BLM protests. Nothing 100% conclusive but I’m not sure why you try and downplay the protests as being a factor in the spikes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277236737224462336

[Blake]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you the one who ran in here to post about the Lake of the Ozarks pool party?

No but I did post about large numbers at the rivers and beaches. Your lack of curiosity over those numbers has been duly noted.

[spurraider21]

wow only 3 BLM mentions in gummy bear's comfort thread

[TSA]

No but I did post about large numbers at the rivers and beaches. Your lack of curiosity over those numbers has been duly noted.

Strange...I thought for sure it was you. Rivers and beaches are a terrible comparison to being packed in like a sardine among thousands of other screaming/chanting protesters, the opportunity for social distancing just isn’t there.

[TSA]

wow only 3 BLM mentions in gummy bear's comfort thread

wow you really argued against the provided data :lol

[spurraider21]

yes he found a correlation between testing and cases in all those states (without discussing positivity rates), but claims there is no correlation with deaths even though its a lagging indicator and we aren't exactly past the point where we can rule it out

[Blake]

Here’s a shitload of graphs for FL, TX, AZ, and CA with phased reopenings and BLM protests. Nothing 100% conclusive but I’m not sure why you try and downplay the protests as being a factor in the spikes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277236737224462336

I'm not downplaying it. It absolutely could be a factor. I'm just indirectly calling you a racist pos

[ChumpDumper]

Jesus. Texas cases explode almost exactly two weeks after Phase 2 of Operation Balous commences but it has to be BLM.

:lol Gummi Bear

[Blake]

Strange...I thought for sure it was you. Rivers and beaches are a terrible comparison to being packed in like a sardine among thousands of other screaming/chanting protesters, the opportunity for social distancing just isn’t there.

Lol bullshit

Here's a picture of tubers in Arizona on June 27th.

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106597454-15935159772020-06-30t104819z_1738492675_rc2mjh9dia07_rtrmadp_0_healt h-coronavirus-usa-trends.jpeg?v=1593516007&w=678&h=381

That's just one. There are a lot of similar recent pictures there and in Texas if you were really curious.

But you're not.

[DarrinS]

I'm not downplaying it. It absolutely could be a factor. I'm just indirectly calling you a racist pos

Data is racist?

[vy65]

Here’s a shitload of graphs for FL, TX, AZ, and CA with phased reopenings and BLM protests. Nothing 100% conclusive but I’m not sure why you try and downplay the protests as being a factor in the spikes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277236737224462336

Why wasn’t there similar spread in Minnesota, New York, and DC?

I’m sure the protests caused some spread, but it’s disingenuous to suggest that’s the driver here

[ChumpDumper]

Just got a stay at home text from the city/county. Last one I got was in April when 48 new cases were reported. Today the number is 597.

[TSA]

Lol bullshit

Here's a picture of tubers in Arizona on June 27th.

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106597454-15935159772020-06-30t104819z_1738492675_rc2mjh9dia07_rtrmadp_0_healt h-coronavirus-usa-trends.jpeg?v=1593516007&w=678&h=381

That's just one. There are a lot of similar recent pictures there and in Texas if you were really curious.

But you're not.

Post as many pictures as you want, none of them will compare to the amount of people packed together during the protests. Better yet find some aerial views if you really want to be accurate. We’ve both already seen the angles the media tried to use when Florida first opened their beaches and tried to say it was packed. You’d have somewhat of an argument if you found a picture of 6,000 tubers all interlocking arms floating down a 100 ft wide river, but you can’t find that.

[Blake]

Abbott shutting down the toobers :(

axbFAp5gx7Q

[TSA]

Why wasn’t there similar spread in Minnesota, New York, and DC?

I’m sure the protests caused some spread, but it’s disingenuous to suggest that’s the driver here

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277309619044524033

[DarrinS]

Just got a stay at home text from the city/county. Last one I got was in April when 48 new cases were reported. Today the number is 597.

439 down here in SA.

[Blake]

Post as many pictures as you want, none of them will compare to the amount of people packed together during the protests. Better yet find some aerial views if you really want to be accurate. We’ve both already seen the angles the media tried to use when Florida first opened their beaches and tried to say it was packed. You’d have somewhat of an argument if you found a picture of 6,000 tubers all interlocking arms floating down a 100 ft wide river, but you can’t find that.

Find me a picture of 6000 protesters locking arms

[Blake]

Why wasn’t there similar spread in Minnesota, New York, and DC?

I’m sure the protests caused some spread, but it’s disingenuous to suggest that’s the driver here

BUT I'M STILL CURIOUS

[TSA]

I'm not downplaying it. It absolutely could be a factor. I'm just indirectly calling you a racist pos

I’m not racist, and there were people off all races protesting dipshit. None of these charts said anything about African American Covid spikes.

[TSA]

Find me a picture of 6000 protesters locking arms

Figure of speech and the only way 6,000 people tubing would be able to stay close enough to simulate the protests. You’re trying way too hard here :lol

[vy65]

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277309619044524033

Bro, srsly, look at the line for tests and tell me what it did?

[ChumpDumper]

I was thinking about staying in the bunker for the next week or so, but I just learned Vanilla Ice is headlining a music festival out at Lake Travis. It's all ages so everyone from 1 to 100 could and should go for family fun!

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277309619044524033What happened to muh increase in testing?

[TSA]

Bro, srsly, look at the line for tests and tell me what it did?

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277315849196576768

[vy65]

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277315849196576768

I agree with that, but it’s utterly irrelevant that there’s an increase in tests that matches up with an increase in positives.

[TSA]

I agree with that, but it’s utterly irrelevant that there’s an increase in tests that matches up with an increase in positives.

You asked for Min data and I provided.

[vy65]

You asked for Min data and I provided.

That data disproves the blm Covid connection

[Spurminator]

Honestly what is the point of posting this? It gives said ignored poster more attention than just ignoring them. If I did this every time Chumpdumper responded to me the forum would be littered with thousands of these.

I don't do it every time he responds to me. I've done it once. Now he knows.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Gummi Bear

[Blake]

Figure of speech and the only way 6,000 people tubing would be able to stay close enough to simulate the protests. You’re trying way too hard here :lol

Guy saying "6000 tubers locking arms" is telling me I'm trying too hard.

You've never tubed the Guadalupe

[TSA]

That data disproves the blm Covid connection

When was it claimed there was a BLM Covid connection in Min?

[Blake]

That data disproves the blm Covid connection

Lol it hasn't clicked yet for him

[Blake]

https://mobile.twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1277315849196576768

:lmao gummi bear

[TSA]

Guy saying "6000 tubers locking arms" is telling me I'm trying too hard.

You've never tubed the Guadalupe

Yeah you’re trying too hard trying to compare river floats to mass protests.

And :lol @ “you’ve never tubed the Guadalupe” as if that means anything :lol
I tubed with 20,000 people in the Sacramento River when I was at Chico State on Memorial Day.

You’ve never tubed the Guadalupe :lol

[vy65]

When was it claimed there was a BLM Covid connection in Min?

That fact that there ISN’T such a connection in Min goes to show that it shouldn’t exist anywhere

[ChumpDumper]

20,000 tubers. ST posters will big time over anything.:lol

[boutons_deux]

re-opening start early May in TX, bars and restaurants lots of clients, esp bars packed, totally ignoring masks and distancing.

the protests very probably caused some infections, but re-opening of indoor operations, bars, etc

rightwingjnutjob racists always scapegoating, blaming everybody but the real culprits.

[TSA]

That fact that there ISN’T such a connection in Min goes to show that it shouldn’t exist anywhere

And yet it appears that it might have.

[DMC]

It's amusing how far left socially accepted mass gatherings are bypassed by nature and yet simple bar gatherings aren't.

[TSA]

It's amusing how far left socially accepted mass gatherings are bypassed by nature and yet simple bar gatherings aren't.

You’ve never tubed the Guadalupe

[DMC]

You’ve never tubed the Guadalupe

No one has, if you think about it. Not really.

[vy65]

And yet it appears that it might have.

:lmao I guess so if gummi bears says so

[vy65]

It's amusing how far left socially accepted mass gatherings are bypassed by nature and yet simple bar gatherings aren't.

I actually agree with this. Bars aren’t ok but mega church gatherings are. It’s all arbitrary

[tholdren]

It's amusing how far left socially accepted mass gatherings are bypassed by nature and yet simple bar gatherings aren't.

While I do think there is a greater risk for transmission indoors. It's completely hypocrisy for California to shut down beaches, and arizona to shut down water parks.

Additionally 3 states backlogged cases and deaths today. Texas California Arizona. This is almost 3/4 us fatalities. Also certain localities in these states make up almost 12 percent of global fatalities.

Wow.

If you understand math you understand why this is amazing and sad.

[spurraider21]

ive said more than once that the protests werent exactly helpful as it related to covid... but at the same time they were outdoors (EXCEPT WHILE LOOTING LOL) and most of them were actually wearing masks (SO THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH LOOTING LOL)

[ChumpDumper]

And yet it appears that it might have.Depends on which contradictory Gummi Bear theory you choose to follow.

[SnakeBoy]

Do you attribute it to better treatment as opposed to just a time delay between being symptomatic to sick to dead? Because this jump in infections has been really quick (as exponential growth should be) and deaths have always seemed to have a pretty significant lag. What is the difference in treatment? Is everyone who is in really dire straits getting dexamethasone now? I remember remedesivir chipping away at the death rate a bit and cutting a couple of days off hospital stays on average, but it didn't sound like a game changer.

My wife had her first patient who had to be hospitalized last night. She didn't feel super seriously ill but her O2 Sat was 81%. So she got admitted to the hospital last night, put on O2 and dexamethasone immediately. This morning they started her on convalescent plasma.

Both her and her husband are sick. They went to Texas Med Clinic for the rapid test. He tested positive she tested negative, an obvious false negative. Not very encouraging case for testing accuracy.

Hopefully this lady does okay but that gives you an idea of what the current treatment protocol is. It's weird she doesn't really feel that sick but her life is on the line.

[baseline bum]

My wife had her first patient who had to be hospitalized last night. She didn't feel super seriously ill but her O2 Sat was 81%. So she got admitted to the hospital last night, put on O2 and dexamethasone immediately. This morning they started her on convalescent plasma.

Both her and her husband are sick. They went to Texas Med Clinic for the rapid test. He tested positive she tested negative, an obvious false negative. Not very encouraging case for testing accuracy.

Hopefully this lady does okay but that gives you an idea of what the current treatment protocol is. It's weird she doesn't really feel that sick but her life is on the line.

You said before the O2 + dexamethasone is for the people with low O2 but who still say they feel fine, right? Is ventilator the next step if that fails, or is that a proven failure for people who say they feel ok but have such low oxygen levels? And ventilator the first step if they feel totally fucked and have those kind of low O2 levels? Weird that you could ever not feel like complete shit on only 81% blood oxygen level. Isn't anything below something like 94% considered really dangerous?

[Blake]

It's amusing how far left socially accepted mass gatherings are bypassed by nature and yet simple bar gatherings aren't.

Uh righty governor Abbott shut down the bars and attended a mass Baptist church gathering where the choir didn't even wear masks. No idea what you're trying to say tbh.

[Play Boban]

There is no second wave

[ChumpDumper]

There is no second waveTrue.

This is still the first wave.

[SnakeBoy]

True.

This is still the first wave.

There are no waves

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/matrix/images/6/63/Spoon_boy.png/revision/latest?cb=20110124083000

[pgardn]

Dan Patrick will save us all

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/01/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-done-listening-dr-anthony-fauci/5358519002/

[RandomGuy]

Galveston county is the only county in Texas where covid patients exceeded 10% of hospital bed capacity.

Average across the state is 6.3%

What is it now?

[baseline bum]

Thanks to the Balous Miller Recovery we have four of the the top five cities in the nation ranked on positivity rate.

1. Austin
2. Phoenix
3. Houston
4. Dallas
5. San Antonio

1276915696774119428

[RandomGuy]

Our hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed. It's not difficult.

Still think that? smh

[baseline bum]

Still think that? smh

Watch the video in my sig man... depressing shit.

[RandomGuy]

Thanks to the Balous Miller Recovery we have four of the the top five cities in the nation ranked on positivity rate.

1. Austin
2. Phoenix
3. Houston
4. Dallas
5. San Antonio

1276915696774119428

1.18*1.18*1.18 Only question is how long it will be until the case load doubles again. Two disease cycles or so, 2 weeks.

Texas will be worse than New York, and Republican leadership will get to bear the entire responsibility for that.

The costs of having the health care system overwhelmed are greater than the cost of lockdowns, especially if you start people killing people off who would otherwise have been productive for the rest of their lives. That right there shoots the shit out of the immoral arguments made for reopening.

Morally bankrupt arguments for reopening are also intellectually bankrupt arguments for reopening for that reason.

[RandomGuy]

Watch the video in my sig man... depressing shit.

Ish. Saw enough out of Italy, and elsewhere. Since you ask I will, but I get it already. :depressed

[RandomGuy]

Watch the video in my sig man... depressing shit.

A 27 year old with lung damage?

But tholdren said that almost never happened.

[spurraider21]

Uh righty governor Abbott shut down the bars and attended a mass Baptist church gathering where the choir didn't even wear masks. No idea what you're trying to say tbh.
he's not trying to say anything

just muh far (:lmao "far") left

[TimDunkem]

A 27 year old with lung damage?

But tholdren said that almost never happened.
Even the best looking patient in that video looked beaten up and was on the verge of tears.

Just the flu tho'.

[Blake]

he's not trying to say anything

just muh far (:lmao "far") left

HONEST BROKER

[spurraider21]

HONEST BROKER
anybody to the left of susan collins is far left apparently :lol

[picnroll]

My wife had her first patient who had to be hospitalized last night. She didn't feel super seriously ill but her O2 Sat was 81%. So she got admitted to the hospital last night, put on O2 and dexamethasone immediately. This morning they started her on convalescent plasma.

Both her and her husband are sick. They went to Texas Med Clinic for the rapid test. He tested positive she tested negative, an obvious false negative. Not very encouraging case for testing accuracy.

Hopefully this lady does okay but that gives you an idea of what the current treatment protocol is. It's weird she doesn't really feel that sick but her life is on the line.
Texas Med Clinic is using Abbott’s unreliable test. They were sending out to a lab using a reliable PCR test but switched to doing it in house because they could bill for it and make more money even though they no it’s no where near as accurate. Take home message if you need a Covid test don’t go to a Texas Med Clinic.

[boutons_deux]

COVID-19: Red States, Blue States


https://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/us_governors_map.png?w=500&h=289


https://tamino.wordpress.com/2020/06/21/covid-19-red-states-blue-states/ (https://tamino.wordpress.com/2020/06/21/covid-19-red-states-blue-states/)

[DarrinS]

COVID-19: Red States, Blue States


https://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/us_governors_map.png?w=500&h=289


https://tamino.wordpress.com/2020/06/21/covid-19-red-states-blue-states/ (https://tamino.wordpress.com/2020/06/21/covid-19-red-states-blue-states/)



https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't know if anyone has tried but testing in SA is completely overwhelmed. I have an employee trying to get in for two days now.

[pgardn]

I don't know if anyone has tried but testing in SA is completely overwhelmed. I have an employee trying to get in for two days now.

Roger on that.
I have talked to people who go to get tested and they run out of tests.
Or they flat out count down and tell the rest to leave.

[pgardn]

On a personal note just in, I add my cousin and two "nephews" to the list. (She says she feels like shit, nephews feel fine)
And my list grows.

[boutons_deux]

“Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

Trash, in remarks to reporters on March 6.

================

Trump: ‘We Have The Best Testing In The World . . .

I Don’t Think You Need That Much Testing’

-- Trash, early May

=================

Even if one gets tested, the labs are overwhelmed, test results a week later.

Where is Trash's Defense Production Act for labs?

[SnakeBoy]

Texas Med Clinic is using Abbott’s unreliable test. They were sending out to a lab using a reliable PCR test but switched to doing it in house because they could bill for it and make more money even though they no it’s no where near as accurate. Take home message if you need a Covid test don’t go to a Texas Med Clinic.

It's not the Abbot test according their website, it's a 15 minute rapid test.

"The COVID-19 rapid test is manufactured by Quidel, the first manufacturer to receive Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on May 8 for a rapid antigen test. Named Sofia® 2 SARS Antigen FIA, the rapid point-of-care test uses a fluorescent immunoassay analyzer for the rapid detection of SARS-CoV-2 in a nasal or nasopharyngeal specimen."

[SnakeBoy]

On a personal note just in, I add my cousin and two "nephews" to the list. (She says she feels like shit, nephews feel fine)
And my list grows.

Just feeling like shit in SA right now doesn't count. Saharan dust levels are kicking many people's ass including mine. That shit is worse than cedar season for me.

[baseline bum]

Just feeling like shit in SA right now doesn't count. Saharan dust levels are kicking many people's ass including mine. That shit is worse than cedar season for me.

The Saharan dust gave me a headache last week but it didn't come anywhere close to the way cedar season clogs my sinuses when it peaks in January. Only thing I have ever found comparable to the cedar is when I lived on the west side of LA which would get pretty bad when there would be large fires in Malibu.

[RandomGuy]

I don't know if anyone has tried but testing in SA is completely overwhelmed. I have an employee trying to get in for two days now.

Wife absolutely got exposed about a week ago. No tests in Hays county. :/

[ChumpDumper]

No amount of water seemed like enough at the height of the dust levels. Just felt parched the whole time.

Mostly in the bunker now. We'll see if I picked up any rona before that.

[RandomGuy]

It's not the Abbot test according their website, it's a 15 minute rapid test.

"The COVID-19 rapid test is manufactured by Quidel, the first manufacturer to receive Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on May 8 for a rapid antigen test. Named Sofia® 2 SARS Antigen FIA, the rapid point-of-care test uses a fluorescent immunoassay analyzer for the rapid detection of SARS-CoV-2 in a nasal or nasopharyngeal specimen."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-funding-covid-test-sites/

Trump administration to stop funding 13 COVID community test sites
However, seven of the 13 testing sites are in Texas, which is seeing a "massive" COVID outbreak, according to Governor Greg Abbott. In light of the surge in cases, GOP Senator John Cornyn of Texas urged the White House Wednesday to revisit its decision and extend federal funding for the community-based sites.

[SnakeBoy]

The Saharan dust gave me a headache last week but it didn't come anywhere close to the way cedar season clogs my sinuses when it peaks in January. Only thing I have ever found comparable to the cedar is when I lived on the west side of LA which would get pretty bad when there would be large fires in Malibu.

It's weird that it bothers me more than cedar since it's not even an allergen, just an irritant they say.

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-funding-covid-test-sites/

Trump administration to stop funding 13 COVID community test sites
However, seven of the 13 testing sites are in Texas, which is seeing a "massive" COVID outbreak, according to Governor Greg Abbott. In light of the surge in cases, GOP Senator John Cornyn of Texas urged the White House Wednesday to revisit its decision and extend federal funding for the community-based sites.

Did they close them?

[ChumpDumper]

1278747749392007176

"Only 84 tickets had been sold before the online ticket broker suspended sales"

No word on the Color Me Badd concert scheduled for Saturday....

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Corona definitely has it in for the libs

It's even worse if you look at it by district

[CosmicCowboy]

Did they close them?

no

[RandomGuy]

Did they close them?

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/26/texas-federal-coronavirus-testing-sites/

They appear to have closed eight of them. "Postponed plans for five" 13-5= 8

The Republican president shut down the funding, and the Republican governor... seems to have not done anything.

Your party leader is claiming that the virus is just going to go away, so maybe they are betting on that happening all by itself. Let's see how that turns out.

[RandomGuy]

Wife absolutely got exposed about a week ago. No tests in Hays county. :/

No FREE testing here. Several sites seem to still be doing some testing, "by referral" etc. Hard to sort out.

[RandomGuy]

no

Let's be super-cynical for a moment.

Republican war on the poor means they will shut down free testing sites, especially in areas that vote for Democrats.

Let's find a map and see if that super-cynical theory holds.

[RandomGuy]

no


The extension only marks two more weeks of support for the Lone Star state. It comes as the Trump administration has committed itself to a policy of state-level handling of the pandemic even as states and cities struggle to make ends meet

They will probably extend that again. The fact that they plan on revisiting it though, raises the spectre of that not happening. smh. At this point, it would not surprise me, given Trumps stated intention to reduce overall testing.

[boutons_deux]

right now, the only stats we are given are cases and deaths.

Later, we will have stats on survivors post-ARDS because they will need rehab and maybe oxygen, for months or forever.

They may be "disabled" for life, on govt welfare, and therefore poor.

Then there will be the people who got their asses kicked bad but did not descend all the way to ARDS.

sorry, we are also seeing category "recovered"

CASES 2,715,124

RECOVERED 729,994

DEATHS 128,439


https://www.statnews.com/feature/coronavirus/covid-19-tracker/?utm_campaign=hp_widget

[RandomGuy]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Texas lieutenant governor says he's done listening to Dr. Fauci: 'I don’t need his advice'
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-lieutenant-governor-says-hes-194536074.html

https://www.270towin.com/maps/O4El3

[SnakeBoy]

No FREE testing here. Several sites seem to still be doing some testing, "by referral" etc. Hard to sort out.

Does she need to borrow some money?

[RandomGuy]

The Republican president shut down the funding, and the Republican governor... seems to have not done anything.

Your party leader is claiming that the virus is just going to go away, so maybe they are betting on that happening all by itself. Let's see how that turns out.



[vapid personal sniping]

:lol Keep scraping the dog shit off yer shoes. The stink will stay.

[ChumpDumper]

The Republican convention is still on? One GOP official already dead of COVID after going to a preliminary county meeting; probably had the virus when he attended.

[DMX7]

Texas lieutenant governor says he's done listening to Dr. Fauci: 'I don’t need his advice'
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-lieutenant-governor-says-hes-194536074.html

https://www.270towin.com/maps/O4El3

did he ever listen?

[ChumpDumper]

did he ever listen?Still waiting for him to sacrifice himself for the economy.

[tholdren]

Still waiting for him to sacrifice himself for the economy.

Texas never went over capacity with hospitals like you said. Also they count ab pos as new cases. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Texas never went over capacity with hospitals like you said.th:lolldren repeating the same lie.

You ran away the last time I called you on it.

[leemajors]

Abbott just issued a mask order

[spurraider21]

Abbott just issued a mask order
finally :tu

[weebo]

You said before the O2 + dexamethasone is for the people with low O2 but who still say they feel fine, right? Is ventilator the next step if that fails, or is that a proven failure for people who say they feel ok but have such low oxygen levels? And ventilator the first step if they feel totally fucked and have those kind of low O2 levels? Weird that you could ever not feel like complete shit on only 81% blood oxygen level. Isn't anything below something like 94% considered really dangerous?

Anything below the range of 88-90% O2 would require supplemental O2; a respirator/ O2 concentrator via nasal canula. Also, there's other medications that are being used besides steroids.

[pgardn]

Abbott just issued a mask order

To be worn where?

[ChumpDumper]

To be worn where?
The order requires Texans living in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases to wear a face covering over the nose and mouth while inside a business or other building open to the public, as well as outdoor public spaces, whenever social distancing is not possible. But it provides several exceptions, including children who are younger than 10 years old, people who have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, people who are eating or drinking and people who are exercising outdoors.

Abbott’s order specifies at least one group of people is not excepted from the order: “any person attending a protest or demonstration” with over 10 people who cannot socially distance.:lol


https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-mask-order-greg-abbott-coronavirus/

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[spurraider21]

The order requires Texans living in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases to wear a face covering over the nose and mouth while inside a business or other building open to the public, as well as outdoor public spaces, whenever social distancing is not possible. But it provides several exceptions, including children who are younger than 10 years old, people who have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, people who are eating or drinking and people who are exercising outdoors.

Abbott’s order specifies at least one group of people is not excepted from the order: “any person attending a protest or demonstration” with over 10 people who cannot socially distance.:lol


https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-mask-order-greg-abbott-coronavirus/

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im fine with protestors being mandated to wear masks. it's good sense

[ChumpDumper]

im fine with protestors being mandated to wear masks. it's good senseI am too. I just thought it was funny to single them out when the order itself pretty much covered them already.

This might cause the Republicans to scuttle the in-person convention because they don't want to be seen in masks. Fairly smart political move by Abbott to at least delay calling off the convention himself.

[pgardn]

im fine with protestors being mandated to wear masks. it's good sense

How about church choirs AND protesters.
Indoors, right next to each other, and already been through a number of very bad incidents in other States...
Its got to be heavy duty proximity, indoors, virus in air droplet problem first and foremost.

[spurraider21]

How about church choirs AND protesters.
Indoors, right next to each other, and already been through a number of very bad incidents in other States...
Its got to be heavy duty proximity, indoors, virus in air droplet problem first and foremost.
that's fair. people worshipping were exempt from the requirement but are "strongly encouraged" rofl

[CosmicCowboy]

I agree with you that it's just dumb as shit to go to church right now but has any state, red or blue, prohibited it? I think the constitutional issue scares them away, not to mention Republicans shitting on their base.

[pgardn]

that's fair. people worshipping were exempt from the requirement but are "strongly encouraged" rofl

The choir of the muffled voices is not gonna do it.
They dont need the choirs right now, and the worshipers need to distance with masks.
That just fkn common sense right now with this virus.

[pgardn]

Most Catholic Churches are being very careful.
What is the deal with the Baptists... ? the Evangelical Protestants (off with their heads! - The POPE)

[ChumpDumper]

If you can't webcast a service by now you're bad at Jesus.

[Blake]

Abbott just issued a mask order

Goddam about time

[Blake]

Most Catholic Churches are being very careful.
What is the deal with the Baptists... ? the Evangelical Protestants (off with their heads! - The POPE)

They want more guns, less masks in their services

[boutons_deux]

To be worn where?

in counties with 20+ cases

[pgardn]

They want more guns, less masks in their services

My take:
projectiles do not do a good job of protection from billions of viral particles.

[pgardn]

in counties with 20+ cases

And merely suggested (strongly encouraged) in churches...

[spurraider21]

I agree with you that it's just dumb as shit to go to church right now but has any state, red or blue, prohibited it? I think the constitutional issue scares them away, not to mention Republicans shitting on their base.
masks should be required at least

[Blake]

I agree with you that it's just dumb as shit to go to church right now but has any state, red or blue, prohibited it? I think the constitutional issue scares them away, not to mention Republicans shitting on their base.

Kansas initially shut down churches but the Court overturned the executive order citing it as discriminatory.
Pretty much the same reason bar owners are suing Texas over the order to shut bars down.

In other words, they can be shut down due to emergency situations like this but the government has to make sure all businesses/organizations of similar nature are also shut down.

[Blake]

masks should be required at least

BUT HOW WILL MUH CHOIR SING