Texas response to Corona virus

[Spurtacular]

Why are you guys even here in this forum? Just head back downstairs where you want to be.

:lol :cry U can't run with the big cucks :cry :lol

[elbamba1]

I wonder how the state order conflicts with this stuff.

Looks like Governor Plaguemonger is going to have a fight with the big cities.

From what I read, the City is excluding the businesses covered under the latest Gov order so they can operate. Everyone else that is not an essential business or covered by the reopened services is ordered to work from home. Of course, much of this is still choice. My business falls under the definition of an essential business but we continued to order our office closed and pushed our next decision date to June 1. The City and County are also asking everyone to wear masks but said they wouldn't issue fines. I would have liked to see a bit more aggression from our cities, but ultimately, I just hope we the people use are brains and decided the appropriate amount of risk to take during this pandemic.

[Spurtacular]

gotdam solid shit :lol

List holds up pretty well. Cucks don't change their stripes. :lol

[DMC]

:lol :cry U can't run with the big cucks :cry :lol

Plus "downstairs" is the tech forum lol

[Spurtacular]

Plus "downstairs" is the tech forum lol

Yea, sometimes I don't even bat an eye at the stupid stuff Blake says.

[Blake]

Yea, sometimes I don't even bat an eye at the stupid stuff Blake says.

You've only got multiple threads about me and like to bump posts of mine from a decade ago on late weekend nights.

But yea, sometimes.

[Spurtacular]

You've only got multiple threads about me and like to bump posts of mine from a decade ago on late weekend nights.

But yea, sometimes.

Yea, other times I have a really good laugh at the stupid stuff you say. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Poll: 47% of restaurants in Texas will not reopen Friday


https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-Restaurant-Association-releases-poll-that-15240363.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mysa_afternoonheadlines&utm_content=news&stn=nf

[Winehole23]

Poll: 47% of restaurants in Texas will not reopen Friday


https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-Restaurant-Association-releases-poll-that-15240363.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mysa_afternoonheadlines&utm_content=news&stn=nf25% occupancy does not generally promote sustainabilty, even in the best of times. Ok, maybe a Monday night.

[Winehole23]

Dine in will be a crumb thrown on top of to go sales for all but the fanciest. Maybe someone with a humongous deck/patio/resort can make it work. You'd need sanitation team, table by table. It's cray right now to open up.

[slick'81]

Dine in will be a crumb thrown on top of to go sales for all but the fanciest. Maybe someone with a humongous deck/patio/resort can make it work. You'd need sanitation team, table by table. It's cray right now to open up.


Its already begun

[Blake]

"...the recent study, conducted by the Guangzhou Center for Disease Control, suggests that the virus not only passes through person-to-person spread at close range, but can travel farther with help from air currents blowing from ventilation systems.

A second study of the same restaurant, this one using a simulation and led by researchers from the University of Hong Kong, concluded that crowded gatherings and "poor ventilation" with little outside air brought into the room created an isolated loop, allowing virus particles to be transferred from table to table....

The Guangzhou study, which has not been peer-reviewed and is set to be published in a U.S. CDC journal in July, focused on 10 coronavirus cases that were traced back to a restaurant in Guangzhou, China, just north of Hong Kong and 600 miles away from Wuhan, the original epicenter of the outbreak.

....Wuhan closed its borders and enforced a lock-down on the city of 11 million on Jan. 23. That same day, the “index case patient," a 63-year-old woman, and her family traveled from Wuhan to Guangzhou, according to the Chinese study....

The following day, their party was seated for lunch on the windowless third-floor dining room of the restaurant as two other families dined at tables that were set close, but not too close, the study said. Later that day, the index patient developed a fever and cough and went to the hospital. Less than two weeks later, nine other diners were infected -- five of them had been seated at separate tables and were not part of the index patient’s family.
....
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/study-coronavirus-air-eyes-chinese-restaurant/story?id=70443864

[Winehole23]

"...the recent study, conducted by the Guangzhou Center for Disease Control, suggests that the virus not only passes through person-to-person spread at close range, but can travel farther with help from air currents blowing from ventilation systems.

A second study of the same restaurant, this one using a simulation and led by researchers from the University of Hong Kong, concluded that crowded gatherings and "poor ventilation" with little outside air brought into the room created an isolated loop, allowing virus particles to be transferred from table to table...."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/study-coronavirus-air-eyes-chinese-restaurant/story?id=70443864

Hence the emphasis on open air seating capacity. Is open air transmission testable?

[slick'81]

"...the recent study, conducted by the Guangzhou Center for Disease Control, suggests that the virus not only passes through person-to-person spread at close range, but can travel farther with help from air currents blowing from ventilation systems.

A second study of the same restaurant, this one using a simulation and led by researchers from the University of Hong Kong, concluded that crowded gatherings and "poor ventilation" with little outside air brought into the room created an isolated loop, allowing virus particles to be transferred from table to table....

The Guangzhou study, which has not been peer-reviewed and is set to be published in a U.S. CDC journal in July, focused on 10 coronavirus cases that were traced back to a restaurant in Guangzhou, China, just north of Hong Kong and 600 miles away from Wuhan, the original epicenter of the outbreak.

....Wuhan closed its borders and enforced a lock-down on the city of 11 million on Jan. 23. That same day, the “index case patient," a 63-year-old woman, and her family traveled from Wuhan to Guangzhou, according to the Chinese study....

The following day, their party was seated for lunch on the windowless third-floor dining room of the restaurant as two other families dined at tables that were set close, but not too close, the study said. Later that day, the index patient developed a fever and cough and went to the hospital. Less than two weeks later, nine other diners were infected -- five of them had been seated at separate tables and were not part of the index patient’s family.
....
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/study-coronavirus-air-eyes-chinese-restaurant/story?id=70443864


everything will be fine Blake :lol

[Winehole23]

Its already begunI noticed, little doubt it will continue to, even the big players are getting through with the rump of their own staff.

Reopening is happening, the reappearance of the customer for sit down dinners cannot be reliably determined beforehand.

[Winehole23]

If taken seriously, the sanitary regulations are hard.The stakes for fuckups is really high. It won't be easy to train staff up to it.

[Blake]

Study showed possibly airborne and/or the virus can travel >6 feet, possibly 15.

[Blake]

Texans/Americans are so stupid

[slick'81]

Texans/Americans are so stupid


We all knew the end of times wouldnt be pretty B

[Winehole23]

We all knew the end of times wouldnt be pretty BDon't exaggerate, at worst it's only the beginning of the end of time.

[slick'81]

Don't exaggerate, at worst it's only the beginning of the end of time.

i forgot were in the 2nd inning


This virus is the god damn white walkers of pandemics.Oh, its coming. And when it gets here its going to be so bad.Youve only gotten a little taste of how brutal it will be.you just wait. You better be prepared.This is some season 8 ish and i cant stand it

[Blake]

i forgot were in the 2nd inning


This virus is the god damn white walkers of pandemics.Oh, its coming. And when it gets here its going to be so bad.Youve only gotten a little taste of how brutal it will be.you just wait. You better be prepared.This is some season 8 ish and i cant stand it

:lol

[Blake]

"AUSTIN, Texas — Over the first weekend or May 2020, Texas health officials reported the greatest two consecutive-day gains in the number of new COVID–19 cases, with more than 2,000 new cases added on May 2 and May 3.

There were 1,293 new cases of the virus reported Saturday. That’s the second greatest single-day gain since the pandemic began. On April 10, the state recorded 1,441 new cases...."

https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-sets-record-for-most-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases-over-a-two-consecutive-day-period/269-fdf0df61-93c2-45b5-ae42-3cb7b1ab8767


Yay Texas

[Blake]

"#3 – Texas
With over 19 percent of Texans lacking health insurance, the Lone Star State has more uninsured residents than any other state in the United States. Those without health insurance are far less likely to seek medical treatment, even if they are showing symptoms of a virus as dangerous and contagious as COVID-19..."

http://cbsaustin.com/news/local/study-says-texas-is-third-least-prepared-state-for-coronavirus-pandemic

^ Texas is third least prepared state for pandemic according to study

[Blake]

"5 a.m.] Austin-Travis County Health Authority Dr. Mark Escott told city officials Tuesday that clusters of coronavirus cases have emerged among construction workers, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

“The people who are getting sick right now are generally people who are working right now,” Escott said. “That risk is going to increase the more people who are working.”

The paper reported that health officials didn't release exact figures of positive cases by industry, but they plan to account for patients' occupations as the economy continues reopening....."

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/06/coronavirus-updates-texas/

[TimDunkem]

We're seeing counts of infections and deaths rise in rural counties. Just in time to bring more infections back to the cities after reopening. :tu

[Blake]

"Weddings can now resume in Texas under these guidelines
Under Gov. Greg Abbott's plan, the state will allow weddings held indoors other than at a church, congregation, or house of worship to limit their occupancy to 25%.
TEXAS 4 minutes ago
Author:
Hana Adeni
Published:
10:45 AM CDT May 6, 2020
Updated:
10:45 AM CDT May 6, 2020
AUSTIN, Texas — In a press conference on Tuesday, May 5, Gov. Greg Abbott provided an update on the state's response to COVID-19, including plans to allow wedding venues to open up immediately.

Wedding venues and services required to conduct weddings may immediately open, according to the governor’s announcement. ..."

https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/local/texas/texas-coronavirus-greg-abbott-2020-high-school-graduation-ceremonies/269-457c0237-f0cc-44f5-935f-df2c5340e88f

Nothing worrisome about this. Move along

[TimDunkem]

The 25% thing is such bullshit. Many places have no problem ignoring these rules.

[Blake]

The 25% thing is such bullshit. Many places have no problem ignoring these rules.

I mean, for all practical purposes, it's basically the honor system

[Winehole23]

We're seeing counts of infections and deaths rise in rural counties. Just in time to bring more infections back to the cities after reopening. :tuBig political blowback for anyone who pushed to reopen too early when states reissue shelter in place orders, but gotta imagine Trump will push back on COVID-19 mitigation measures anytime before the election as having been politically inspired.

[TimDunkem]

I mean, for all practical purposes, it's basically the honor system

I mentioned yesterday that my brother's restaurant already started ignoring it. Can only imagine how many other places are too.

[Blake]

Big political blowback for anyone who pushed to reopen too early when states reissue shelter in place orders, but gotta imagine Trump will push back on COVID-19 mitigation measures anytime before the election as having been politically inspired.

"Apr 28, 2020,04:48pm EDT
Trump Praised Texas For Reopening — Some State Lawmakers Don’t Agree

Jack BrewsterForbes Staff
Business
I'm a news reporter for Forbes.
TOPLINE On Tuesday morning, President Trump praised Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s decision to ease social distancing restrictions, but some mayors and local lawmakers aren’t as supportive of the move, cautioning it may be too soon and could lead to a new surge in cases..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/04/28/trump-praised-texas-for-reopening---some-state-lawmakers-dont-agree/

Trump meeting with Greg on Thursday. He'll most definitely praise Abbott again, but it'll be interesting to see how lavish or how vanilla the praise will be

[pgardn]

I mean, for all practical purposes, it's basically the honor system

Basically consumers have choices to make for the businesses that did decide to reopen.
It is an acute capitalistic scenario. We live in the now. Plans for the future unknown.

So now we may have produced a whole new avenue for spreading this thing for the future and for the people that did not decide to participate except on a subsistence level. We do have to buy food and some other stuff where contact is made with the participaters. So hope the summer does have maximum environmental impact on this virus. I wish it could penetrate the lungs... yes...

[Blake]

I mentioned yesterday that my brother's restaurant already started ignoring it. Can only imagine how many other places are too.

The only way to do it at a high occupancy place like sit down restaurants is to have a bouncer counting heads at the door and I'm not seeing it.

[TimDunkem]

The only way to do it at a high occupancy place like sit down restaurants is to have a bouncer counting heads at the door and I'm not seeing it.

That's assuming restaurants would even do it. Some aren't even requiring employees or customers to wear masks. These places will do anything for an extra buck...especially now.

[TimDunkem]

Opening was always going to be dubious. We couldn't trust everyone to do the right thing when everything was shut down.

Now that inches are being given? No way. They'll take 5 miles.

[Blake]

Opening was always going to be dubious. We couldn't trust everyone to do the right thing when everything was shut down.

Now that inches are being given? No way. They'll take 5 miles.

This is shaping up to be a really bad June for Texas, imo.

But hey at least the gyms will open up on May 18

[baseline bum]

This is shaping up to be a really bad June for Texas, imo.

But hey at least the gyms will open up on May 18

That whole phases plan from the white house all for show? Who could have guessed?

[Trainwreck2100]

We're seeing counts of infections and deaths rise in rural counties. Just in time to bring more infections back to the cities after reopening. :tu
Is like to see which states those are because I wonder if people picked them up at protests

[Xevious]

I think as long as we never turn into NYC, people just aren't going to stop giving a shit. I drove by a dog park near my house yesterday and it was packed, people were on top of each other. I've never seen it like that even in normal times. I'm seeing more and more people in stores without masks.

Point is, people are just going to do what they want to do.

[TimDunkem]

I think as long as we never turn into NYC, people just aren't going to stop giving a shit. I drove by a dog park near my house yesterday and it was packed, people were on top of each other. I've never seen it like that even in normal times. I'm seeing more and more people in stores without masks.

Point is, people are just going to do what they want to do.

Eventually there will be enough bodies in the corner to grab everyone's attention. Just sad that it has to come to that.

[boutons_deux]

rural areas are joining the C19 parade of hotspots, with a higher percentage of obesity, type II, and CVD

[Blake]

"(KWTX) Another Texas prison inmate who tested positive for COVID-19 has died, the Texas Department of Criminal Justice says.

Danilo Garza, 65, who was serving a life sentence at the Eastham Unit out of Cameron County, died on Monday at Hospital Galveston to which he was admitted on April 28.

To date 504 prison system employees, staff and contractors and 1,336 inmates have tested positive for the virus.

Five employees and 23 offenders have died.

Sixteen other deaths are under investigation.

More than 40 units including four in Central Texas are on lockdown because of the virus.

One inmate has tested positive for the virus at the William R. Boyd Unit in Teague; four employees and one inmate have tested positive at the Alfred D. Hughes Unit where 45 inmates are on medical restriction and two are isolated; 67 inmates and 19 employees have tested positive at the Dr. Lane Murray Unit where 75 inmates are isolated and 585 are medically restricted; and 14 inmates and 10 employees have tested positive at the Linda Woodman State Jail where 16 inmates are isolated and 188 are medically restricted...."

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Texas-prison-COVID-19-death-toll-rises-570190701.html


Fwiw, all the deaths mentioned, both employees and inmates are age 49+

[Blake]

Port A and Guadalupe River doing their parts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/05/05/i-was-shocked-port-aransas-photographer-captured-images-of-a-crowded-beach-then-came-the-hate-mail/%3foutputType=amp

[slick'81]

This is shaping up to be a really bad June for Texas, imo.

But hey at least the gyms will open up on May 18


nothing but shit ahead

[DarrinS]

It seems like there are more homicides lately in Bexar county than covid deaths.

[DarrinS]

Port A and Guadalupe River doing their parts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/05/05/i-was-shocked-port-aransas-photographer-captured-images-of-a-crowded-beach-then-came-the-hate-mail/%3foutputType=amp


They're outside on a very windy beach

[ChumpDumper]

It seems like there are more homicides lately in Bexar county than covid deaths.Don't worry, Darrin. COVID will catch up just the way you want.

[Blake]

They're outside on a very windy beach

So you're saying they need an even greater social distance than 6 feet? Yeah, maybe so

[Blake]

It seems like there are more homicides lately in Bexar county than covid deaths.

Don't forget the seasonal flu

[DarrinS]

I think as long as we never turn into NYC, people just aren't going to stop giving a shit. I drove by a dog park near my house yesterday and it was packed, people were on top of each other. I've never seen it like that even in normal times. I'm seeing more and more people in stores without masks.

Point is, people are just going to do what they want to do.


We will never be like NYC, because we live far apart, don't ride subways, and live in a hot climate.

[DarrinS]

So you're saying they need an even greater social distance than 6 feet? Yeah, maybe so

People aren't catching this outdoors. I don't know how often this needs to be repeated.

[Blake]

People aren't catching this outdoors. I don't know how often this needs to be repeated.

You like to post obscure studies, right?

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71736/heres-how-you-can-catch-coronavirus-covid-19-outside-while-exercising/amp.html

Click the pdf study and glance over pages 7-10

[DarrinS]

You like to post obscure studies, right?

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71736/heres-how-you-can-catch-coronavirus-covid-19-outside-while-exercising/amp.html

Click the pdf study and glance over pages 7-10

Tweaktown!

I guess that's what Google gave you.

You're safer at the beach than the grocery store.

[Blake]

Tweaktown!

I guess that's what Google gave you.

You're safer at the beach than the grocery store.

Yeah that's what Google gave. Weird site name but the story and study seem ok.

I don't hang out at the store for hours

[Spurtacular]

People aren't catching this outdoors. I don't know how often this needs to be repeated.

:cry But someone did a computer model :cry

[RandomGuy]

We will never be like NYC, because we live far apart, don't ride subways, and live in a hot climate.

We have no conclusive evidence that any of that matters yet. Just FYI.

The first two are likely to matter, the last one, we don't know.

[RandomGuy]

People aren't catching this outdoors. I don't know how often this needs to be repeated.

Climate change is caused by human activity, I don't know how often this needs to be repeated.

[RandomGuy]

Big political blowback for anyone who pushed to reopen too early when states reissue shelter in place orders, but gotta imagine Trump will push back on COVID-19 mitigation measures anytime before the election as having been politically inspired.

That is what boggles the mind. What should not be political... is now political. Be safe, and follow scientific advice. That is now a liberal thing. smh.

[RandomGuy]

I mentioned yesterday that my brother's restaurant already started ignoring it. Can only imagine how many other places are too.

but... who would go to such a place?

I'm staying my ass at home.

[TimDunkem]

but... who would go to such a place?

I'm staying my ass at home.

You'd be surprised. It could be superflu-AIDS-covid-ebola rolled into one and people here in Fat Antonio would still take the entire obese Familia and go out and stuff their face.

I'll never know why. Never been much of a restaurant dine in guy myself. Unless it's a social thing, I just don't see the point of throwing away my money in a sit-down restaurant. Then again, I enjoy cooking at home.

[Xevious]

but... who would go to such a place?

I'm staying my ass at home.
You know damn well bars/clubs will be packed to capacity once they are allowed to do so.

[BSfromTX]

People who are scared, stay home

People who don't believe the hype, go out and enjoy life.

As for the government, don't tell us what to do.

As for people trying to shame others, mind your own business.

"fake news" should only be determined by the individual and not a censoring government

[Spurs Homer]

People who are scared, stay home

People who don't believe the hype, go out and enjoy life.

As for the government, don't tell us what to do. Unless its to control what a woman does with her own body!

As for people trying to shame others, mind your own business.

"fake news" should only be determined by the individual and not a censoring government

unless it is the head of govt calling the media “fake news” and censoring any news that are unfavorable to the nice dictator!




when you spew self- righteous ignorant hypocrisy- you reveal your ignorance

[TimDunkem]

It isn't your right to get others sick, tbh.

[Play Boban]

Scaredy cats :lmao

[BSfromTX]

what makes you think I support Trump? I do not support anyone in our federal government

Self-righteous ignorance?

It amazes me how many in here view civil liberties and freedoms as the enemy. Please explain what I am ignorant of?

You are making the case that people are incapable of deciding what is best for them and that a central government and scientific community (hand picked by Trump and other politicians) is needed to act in their best interest. My reference to "fake news" was not a support of Trump's frequent comments. It was a reference to any idea that contradicts the narrative. It was a reference to the mass censorship on social media and internet in general. I don't care how outlandish someone's personal beliefs might seem to you or anyone else, they have a right to express it. It is the individual's job to vet their sources and that certainly includes the spewed crap from the corporations that control 90% of our news information.

Please. If people in this forum are going to be insulting and offensive, at least have the courtesy to provide a genuine take that supports their hostility.

As for a woman and her body, yes she can do whatever. However, she does not have the right to take another innocent life. At conception you have a genetically complete human being that is alive. Over 800k die in abortions every year in this country. My reason for pointing this out is not to get into a debate on abortion, rather than to point out the fact that abortions in this country alone have killed eight times more than Covid-19's INFLATED numbers. This "save lives". simply is not consistent with their actions, is it? Not when it comes to this, war, famine, or poverty.

Quit believing the government and state media actually care about any of us.

[baseline bum]

Government stay out of my life

Government go get in her life

[TimDunkem]

Something about libs: Check
Some bs take on liberty: Check
Unhinged rant about abortion: Check
Ignorant, conspiratard fake Covid numbers nonsense:

Check

Ffs, do they make you people in factories?

[BSfromTX]

It isn't your right to get others sick, tbh.


So where does it stop? Hundreds and thousands of diseases such as this (and much worse) already exist and have for thousands of years. Suddenly this one is different?

If you believe we should be quarantined over this, then you should accept that we all need to live in a bubble for the rest of our lives. We are always at risk. You put yourself and others at risk every day.

[boutons_deux]

It isn't your right to get others sick, tbh.

yep, the freeDUMB assholes think they are not part of society, have NO obligations to anybody but themelves and their tribe.

Consideration for other people and their freedom? That's socialism.

It's one of the toxic, indoctrinated, self-congratulating myths that Americans lie themselves.

The ideas are that "my freedom, my liberty, and I don't whom I inconvenience, hurt, fuckup.

NOBODY dicks with my freedom."

[TimDunkem]

So where does it stop? Hundreds and thousands of diseases such as this (and much worse) already exist and have for thousands of years. Suddenly this one is different?

If you believe we should be quarantined over this, then you should accept that we all need to live in a bubble for the rest of our lives. We are always at risk. You put yourself and others at risk every day.

It doesn't have to be the rest of your life you big cry baby. We could look closer to S.Korea right now, but fools like you, and the ineptitude of our government to actually exercise it's power to test, trace, protect, and inform it's citizens is exactly why we're going to eventually lock down again.

[Spurs Homer]

So where does it stop? Hundreds and thousands of diseases such as this (and much worse) already exist and have for thousands of years. Suddenly this one is different?

If you believe we should be quarantined over this, then you should accept that we all need to live in a bubble for the rest of our lives. We are always at risk. You put yourself and others at risk every day.


GTFO

no one is taking anything from you -

this is a NEW Corona virus -

there has to be a grace period where the govt tries their best to keep the MAJORITY of its people safe -
and you just might be INCONVENIENCED temporarily -

for the BETTER GOOD of all.

In a time like this - what is evident - is that GOOD GOVERNMENT can be the difference between life or death.
We got our first case

THE SAME DAY SOUTH KOREA did - and look at us - and look at them -

(I know the population disparity - but with a GOOD GOVT RESPONSE - we would not be in this horrible predicament)

[baseline bum]

It doesn't have to be the rest of your life you big cry baby. We could look closer to S.Korea right now, but fools like you, and the ineptitude of our government to actually exercise it's power to test, trace, protect, and inform it's citizens is exactly why we're going to eventually lock down again.

It's not ineptitude, it's not an accident. They just don't give a fuck. And Trump and McConnell already baited and switched us into the corporate bailout they wanted. There is no need for them to close the country again. They'll just let the bodies pile up.

[boutons_deux]

Government stay out of my life

Government go get in her life

Christian supremacists, evangelicals want Freedom Of (their) Religion

and

want nobody to have Freedom From (evangelical) Religion

[Blake]

"WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump lauded Gov. Greg Abbott in the Oval Office on Thursday for freeing a Dallas salon owner who had defied his own efforts to keep nonessential businesses closed, and for reopening Texas businesses early.

“She is free today,” Abbott said, explaining the executive order he issued earlier in the day “saying that in the state of Texas, no one can be put behind bars because they’re not following an executive order. So that includes the woman.”

“Good,” said Trump, adding, "I was watching the salon owner and she looked so great, so professional, so good. And she was talking about her children. She has to feed her children.”......"

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/05/07/gov-greg-abbott-lauded-by-trump-for-opening-texas-early-meets-with-president/

[Blake]

"Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus coordinator, suggested that Abbott may not allow nail salons to open immediately after all..

In discussing Texas’ approach on Thursday, she said, she questioned the plan to include nail salons “in the first opening wave because you can’t really physical distance.... He agreed, and we’ve moved forward together.”




We'll see

[Blake]

"Neither Trump nor Abbott wore a mask at the meeting, despite CDC recommendations that everyone wear them.."

[Blake]

"People with spinal cord injuries have weaker immunosuppression capabilities than the general population, according to the Christopher & Dana Reeve Foundation.

Wearing masks to mitigate coronavirus' spread has become a polarizing issue in traditionally Republican-leaning Texas. So far Abbott has sided firmly with those less concerned about contracting the virus and more concerned with reopening businesses.

Abbott is one of several governors, nearly all Republican, who have decided to proceed with reopening in their states despite not having reached the diminished rates of infection recommended by the CDC before reopening. On Wednesday, Dallas County reported its highest number of new coronavirus cases to date, eclipsing the previous record, set on Tuesday.

Trump has also refused to wear a mask, against the guidance of federal health officials. ...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/trump-meets-with-texas-gov-abbott-after-valet-tests-positive-for-coronavirus.html

[phxspurfan]

I don't hang out at the store for hours

Men should do grocery shopping during pandemic as women take too long, Japanese mayor says

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/17e66690-1286-4a32-bd42-cd1ee9640525.jpg

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-24-20-intl/h_399bd93f2355ed2c8fdb2d2bf90faf18

"Women take a longer time grocery shopping because they browse through different products and weigh out which option is best," Matsui told reporters at a coronavirus news conference in Osaka on Thursday.
"Men quickly grab what they're told to buy so they won't linger at the supermarket -- that avoids close contact with others."

[Spurtacular]

"Neither Trump nor Abbott wore a mask at the meeting, despite CDC recommendations that everyone wear them.."

:lol

[Blake]

Men should do grocery shopping during pandemic as women take too long, Japanese mayor says

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/17e66690-1286-4a32-bd42-cd1ee9640525.jpg

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-24-20-intl/h_399bd93f2355ed2c8fdb2d2bf90faf18

"Women take a longer time grocery shopping because they browse through different products and weigh out which option is best," Matsui told reporters at a coronavirus news conference in Osaka on Thursday.
"Men quickly grab what they're told to buy so they won't linger at the supermarket -- that avoids close contact with others."

Lol

[Blake]

:lol

You're really stupid

[phxspurfan]

We will never be like NYC, because we live far apart, don't ride subways, and live in a hot climate.

also beecause we live sloww, chew tobaccy and tawlk-a-lyke thuyis

[Spurtacular]

You're really stupid

Trump and Pence are really not infected

[spurraider21]

Men should do grocery shopping during pandemic as women take too long, Japanese mayor says
i've always done our grocery shopping. wife takes lead on actual cooking and food prep so its a worthy tradeoff

[pgardn]

Trump and Pence are really not infected

[Spurtacular]

i've always done our grocery shopping. wife takes lead on actual cooking and food prep so its a worthy tradeoff

Meaning you do that, too. :lol

[Blake]

1258792234939494400

Lol what a coattailing attention whore

[ChumpDumper]

1258792234939494400

Lol what a coattailing attention whoreMan, those women who sat in jail for three weeks in Laredo still not even acknowledged.

I wonder why?

[Blake]

Man, those women who sat in jail for three weeks in Laredo still not even acknowledged.

I wonder why?

They weren't brave enough somehow

[Blake]

Hey congrats to Texas for reopening as we hit the 1k death mark :tu

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/08/texas-coronavirus-deaths-count-1000/

[boutons_deux]

They weren't brave enough somehow

Gov. Abbott issues order after two Laredo women arrested for home beauty services amid pandemic

Two Laredo women who were accused of violating the COVID-19 Emergency Management Plan for offering their beauty & cosmetic services from home

will no longer face confinement as a punishment,

according to an executive order signed by Governor Greg Abbott.

https://www.lmtonline.com/local/article/Gov-Abbott-issues-order-after-two-Laredo-women-15253855.php

[pgardn]

:lol

Lets say you wanted to visit a relative in a hospital for non Covid patients.
What recommendations would you follow?

[Blake]

Lets say you wanted to visit a relative in a hospital for non Covid patients.
What recommendations would you follow?

PLANDEMIC /SCREECH

[ChumpDumper]

Gov. Abbott issues order after two Laredo women arrested for home beauty services amid pandemic

Two Laredo women who were accused of violating the COVID-19 Emergency Management Plan for offering their beauty & cosmetic services from home

will no longer face confinement as a punishment,

according to an executive order signed by Governor Greg Abbott.

https://www.lmtonline.com/local/article/Gov-Abbott-issues-order-after-two-Laredo-women-15253855.php
Hm, they were arrested April 15.

What could possibly be the reason nothing was done about them?

It's a mystery!

[Spurtacular]

Lets say you wanted to visit a relative in a hospital for non Covid patients.
What recommendations would you follow?

What point are you even trying to make, Cuck Garden?

[ChumpDumper]

What point are you even trying to make, Cuck Garden?derp immediately folds.


Just say no relatives would want to see you. That's believable.

[boutons_deux]

Hm, they were arrested April 15.

What could possibly be the reason nothing was done about them?

It's a mystery!

look at their surnames

[picnroll]

"Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus coordinator, suggested that Abbott may not allow nail salons to open immediately after all..

In discussing Texas’ approach on Thursday, she said, she questioned the plan to include nail salons “in the first opening wave because you can’t really physical distance.... He agreed, and we’ve moved forward together.”




We'll see

California has identified nail salons as a source for many COVID infections. Good job upping the kill count Abbott and Trash. :bobo

[Blake]

California has identified nail salons as a source for many COVID infections. Good job upping the kill count Abbott and Trash. :bobo

Semi essential business!

[Blake]

Mark Cuban blog

"I Hired a Team of Secret Shoppers to Find Out How Businesses Were Opening in Dallas. It’s Not Good.
Posted on May 7, 2020"

https://blogmaverick.com/2020/05/07/i-hired-a-team-of-secret-shoppers-to-find-out-how-businesses-were-opening-in-dallas-its-not-good/

[TimDunkem]

^Shocker.

[pgardn]

What point are you even trying to make, Cuck Garden?

Do you think the fact you are an idiot was environmentally induced or genetic or a bit of both?

[elbamba1]

Mark Cuban blog

"I Hired a Team of Secret Shoppers to Find Out How Businesses Were Opening in Dallas. It’s Not Good.
Posted on May 7, 2020"

https://blogmaverick.com/2020/05/07/i-hired-a-team-of-secret-shoppers-to-find-out-how-businesses-were-opening-in-dallas-its-not-good/

So Cuban thinks it’s okay to put his secret team and anyone they come into contact with at risk to prove a point on his blog? Why is it okay for him to risk others lives for nonessential shopping? At least grow some balls and do it himself.

[CosmicCowboy]

So Cuban thinks it’s okay to put his secret team and anyone they come into contact with at risk to prove a point on his blog? Why is it okay for him to risk others lives for nonessential shopping? At least grow some balls and do it himself.

That's a really stupid post.

[boutons_deux]

which retail operations can succeed with 25% or 50% of usual business?

[CosmicCowboy]

which retail operations can succeed with 25% or 50% of usual business?

Very few. That's why we are eventually going to accept that X amount of boogievirus deaths are the new normal to avoid destroying millions of businesses, jobs, and people's lives.

[baseline bum]

Very few. That's why we are eventually going to accept that X amount of boogievirus deaths are the new normal to avoid destroying millions of businesses, jobs, and people's lives.

There will likely be no economic recovery until the virus is done. The economy will start shutting down on its own as people watch their family, friends, and neighbors die from this.

[BSfromTX]

There will likely be no economic recovery until the virus is done. The economy will start shutting down on its own as people watch their family, friends, and neighbors die from this.

Do you know anyone personally that has it, had it, hospitalized because of it, or died from it? Sincerely, I’m not trying to be adversarial

[baseline bum]

Do you know anyone personally that has it, had it, hospitalized because of it, or died from it? Sincerely, I’m not trying to be adversarial

A couple of friends from Cali I know have tested positive but neither had to be hospitalized. No one I personally know in Texas is/was known positive. I might have had it since I was really sick for a few days in March (almost completely bedridden, couldn't sit up for more than maybe five minutes at a time) with a temperature that would go between 99 and 101 and really nasty gastro symptoms kind of similar to what SnakeBoy said he had, and he ended up testing as having COVID antibodies. I never got tested though since I never got to the point I needed to be hospitalized and testing was extremely scarce in March, so maybe not and in public I act as if I have not had it. But we're also quite early in the pandemic. Even New York City, the place on Earth most ravaged by this virus, only had an estimated 25% infection rate from the antibody testing they did there. LA County was estimated at about a 4% to 5% infection a couple of weeks ago from antibody testing. Considering we'll need to be at 40% to 70% infection rate to stop this virus we're still in for a long and bumpy ride most likely.

[boutons_deux]

COVID-19 Has Infected Workers at a Tyson Beef Plant in Amarillo, Employees Say


The infections are the latest in the surge of coronavirus cases at Texas meatpacking plants and in the Panhandle.


https://www.texasobserver.org/covid-19-has-infected-workers-at-a-tyson-beef-plant-in-amarillo-employees-say/?utm_source=mc&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=may_9_2020&goal=0_975e2d1fa1-23c93e46e3-34733575&mc_cid=23c93e46e3&mc_eid=b9077e7e26

[boutons_deux]

Texas Health Officials Undercount COVID-19 Cases by Excluding Some Prisoners Who Tested Positive

The Observer identified at least nine Texas counties where

current prison cases make up more than 10 percent of the total COVID-19 cases in the county.

https://www.texasobserver.org/covid-19-texas-undercount-prisoners/?utm_source=mc&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=may_9_2020&goal=0_975e2d1fa1-23c93e46e3-34733575&mc_cid=23c93e46e3&mc_eid=b9077e7e26

Incarceration Nation, not "regular folks"

[elbamba1]

That's a really stupid post.

Sorry. I will try to do better next time.

[BSfromTX]

A couple of friends from Cali I know have tested positive but neither had to be hospitalized. No one I personally know in Texas is/was known positive. I might have had it since I was really sick for a few days in March (almost completely bedridden, couldn't sit up for more than maybe five minutes at a time) with a temperature that would go between 99 and 101 and really nasty gastro symptoms kind of similar to what SnakeBoy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12109) said he had, and he ended up testing as having COVID antibodies. I never got tested though since I never got to the point I needed to be hospitalized and testing was extremely scarce in March, so maybe not and in public I act as if I have not had it. But we're also quite early in the pandemic. Even New York City, the place on Earth most ravaged by this virus, only had an estimated 25% infection rate from the antibody testing they did there. LA County was estimated at about a 4% to 5% infection a couple of weeks ago from antibody testing. Considering we'll need to be at 40% to 70% infection rate to stop this virus we're still in for a long and bumpy ride most likely.

so, if it is as contagious as they say, I would expect there to be more cases, yet most people I ask don’t know of anyone personally that has actually tested positive. I believe the virus exists and I believe it can make you very sick and possibly kill you if you are compromised, however I have not seen anything personally that supports what is being reported.

I go by Methodist every day and it looks like a ghost town. If the virus is indeed very contagious, I would expect that it has already run its course, and if not, as you suggest, will we ever keep it from ultimately running it’s course?

These are questions none of us can completely answer without depending on others. People with credibility that challenge the severity have been censored. That is disturbing. I’m not saying they are right, but why can’t reasonable suggestions be heard? If you search google or YouTube for anything that suggest this is exaggerated, you get site after site talking about fighting “fake news”. That was not the case 3-5 years ago. People are being censored, and whether anyone agrees with them or not, that is very disturbing in my opinion.

[ChumpDumper]

Define "reasonable suggestions."

[boutons_deux]

"I ask don’t know of anyone personally that has actually tested positive."

Have they been tested?

Among 29M Texans, how many have you and your personal anecdote queried?

[baseline bum]

so, if it is as contagious as they say, I would expect there to be more cases, yet most people I ask don’t know of anyone personally that has actually tested positive. I believe the virus exists and I believe it can make you very sick and possibly kill you if you are compromised, however I have not seen anything personally that supports what is being reported.

I go by Methodist every day and it looks like a ghost town. If the virus is indeed very contagious, I would expect that it has already run its course, and if not, as you suggest, will we ever keep it from ultimately running it’s course?

These are questions none of us can completely answer without depending on others. People with credibility that challenge the severity have been censored. That is disturbing. I’m not saying they are right, but why can’t reasonable suggestions be heard? If you search google or YouTube for anything that suggest this is exaggerated, you get site after site talking about fighting “fake news”. That was not the case 3-5 years ago. People are being censored, and whether anyone agrees with them or not, that is very disturbing in my opinion.

Who is being censored? I know there is a conspiracy theory going around that it's way more widespread than people think but antibody testing seems to indicate nowhere is anywhere close to even lower bounds for what herd immunity infection rates could be. We do know it has killed 1 1/3 Vietnam War's worth of Americans in about a month and a half. Of course we're not going to keep it from running its course because our government's stance is just let it unlike nations like South Korea that took it seriously from the start. I don't know how you can believe the virus has run its course through Texas. What exactly makes us special vs New York / Detroit / New Orelans / Chicago that we get the virus and nothing happens to almost anybody while it ravages their populations?

[clambake]

Yes, the people from CDC are being censored.

I’m sure that’s what you meant

[tholdren]

Who is being censored? I know there is a conspiracy theory going around that it's way more widespread than people think but antibody testing seems to indicate nowhere is anywhere close to even lower bounds for what herd immunity infection rates could be. We do know it has killed 1 1/3 Vietnam War's worth of Americans in about a month and a half. Of course we're not going to keep it from running its course because our government's stance is just let it unlike nations like South Korea that took it seriously from the start. I don't know how you can believe the virus has run its course through Texas. What exactly makes us special vs New York / Detroit / New Orelans / Chicago that we get the virus and nothing happens to almost anybody while it ravages their populations?

Say what?

[baseline bum]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

[tholdren]

There will likely be no economic recovery until the virus is done. The economy will start shutting down on its own as people watch their family, friends, and neighbors die from this.
Lol

[tholdren]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

triggered

[baseline bum]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

[tholdren]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.
#iwon

[ChumpDumper]

Lollol at people dying?

[tholdren]

lol at people dying?

Never, just your post count.

[ChumpDumper]

Never, just your post count.Don't lie.

What were you laughing at in this post?

Who is being censored? I know there is a conspiracy theory going around that it's way more widespread than people think but antibody testing seems to indicate nowhere is anywhere close to even lower bounds for what herd immunity infection rates could be. We do know it has killed 1 1/3 Vietnam War's worth of Americans in about a month and a half. Of course we're not going to keep it from running its course because our government's stance is just let it unlike nations like South Korea that took it seriously from the start. I don't know how you can believe the virus has run its course through Texas. What exactly makes us special vs New York / Detroit / New Orelans / Chicago that we get the virus and nothing happens to almost anybody while it ravages their populations?

[Blake]

I've got two anecdotes:

1) I went to 54th Street for pickup and the place was packed. Drove around back to check out the patio dining and every table was taken. No customers wearing masks. Pretty clear a large number are pushing past the 25% limit.

2)I have a cousin and her family (out of state) that came down with covid this week. She and husband are in early 40s, no underlying conditions. Husband started turning purple from lack of oxygen, rushed to hospital and is currently on ventilator. She has developed pneumonia but just got released from hospital. Three kids have it but just complaining of flu symptoms.

She said they never went out except to store. Turns out they had a few visits from asshole mother in law who KNEW she was infected but didn't tell them because she was apparently asymptomatic and they assumed she was fine. Now her son is on a fucking ventilator.

Anecdotal point being that next to nobody is taking this shit serious enough.

[ChumpDumper]

I've got two anecdotes:

1) I went to 54th Street for pickup and the place was packed. Drove around back to check out the patio dining and every table was taken. No customers wearing masks. Pretty clear a large number are pushing past the 25% limit.

2)I have a cousin and her family (out of state) that came down with covid this week. She and husband are in early 40s, no underlying conditions. Husband started turning purple from lack of oxygen, rushed to hospital and is currently on ventilator. She has developed pneumonia but just got released from hospital. Three kids have it but just complaining of flu symptoms.

She said they never went out except to store. Turns out they had a few visits from asshole mother in law who KNEW she was infected but didn't tell them because she was apparently asymptomatic and they assumed she was fine. Now her son is on a fucking ventilator.

Anecdotal point being that next to nobody is taking this shit serious enough.


Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously though, I think there are enough Darrins, SnakeBoys, derps, tholdrens along with our FB friends reposting Plandemic out there to ensure a massive second wave. The only question is how many backflips they will do to keep Trump from having any responsibility whatsoever.

That sucks about your family. My sister has gone backdoor QAnon since this started but at least is isolating at this point. I'm sure members of my extended family are worse.

[DarrinS]

I've got two anecdotes:

1) I went to 54th Street for pickup and the place was packed. Drove around back to check out the patio dining and every table was taken. No customers wearing masks. Pretty clear a large number are pushing past the 25% limit.

2)I have a cousin and her family (out of state) that came down with covid this week. She and husband are in early 40s, no underlying conditions. Husband started turning purple from lack of oxygen, rushed to hospital and is currently on ventilator. She has developed pneumonia but just got released from hospital. Three kids have it but just complaining of flu symptoms.

She said they never went out except to store. Turns out they had a few visits from asshole mother in law who KNEW she was infected but didn't tell them because she was apparently asymptomatic and they assumed she was fine. Now her son is on a fucking ventilator.

Anecdotal point being that next to nobody is taking this shit serious enough.


Man, that's crazy. A lot of outliers here. ^

Older, mother-in-law is asymptomatic, but somehow knew she was infected.

Healthy man in his early 40's on a ventilator.

Kids actually have symptoms.

Weird

[TimDunkem]

Man, that's crazy. A lot of outliers here. ^

Older, mother-in-law is asymptomatic, but somehow knew she was infected.

Healthy man in his early 40's on a ventilator.

Kids actually have symptoms.

Weird

Literally none of that is weird. These are things we've seen happen and can reasonably assume would increase after opening.

[BSfromTX]

I've got two anecdotes:

1) I went to 54th Street for pickup and the place was packed. Drove around back to check out the patio dining and every table was taken. No customers wearing masks. Pretty clear a large number are pushing past the 25% limit.

2)I have a cousin and her family (out of state) that came down with covid this week. She and husband are in early 40s, no underlying conditions. Husband started turning purple from lack of oxygen, rushed to hospital and is currently on ventilator. She has developed pneumonia but just got released from hospital. Three kids have it but just complaining of flu symptoms.

She said they never went out except to store. Turns out they had a few visits from asshole mother in law who KNEW she was infected but didn't tell them because she was apparently asymptomatic and they assumed she was fine. Now her son is on a fucking ventilator.

Anecdotal point being that next to nobody is taking this shit serious enough.

what state?
The mother in law tested positive?

[DarrinS]

Literally none of that is weird. These are things we've seen happen and can reasonably assume would increase after opening.

Where are they testing asymptomatic people?

[TimDunkem]

Where are they testing asymptomatic people?

Can you get tested?

[BSfromTX]

Where are they testing asymptomatic people?

better yet, who conducts the test, is the test sent to CDC or can any lab analyze and determine? How do they determine that antibodies are to the exact uniqueness of this Coronavirus strain?

[Blake]

Man, that's crazy. A lot of outliers here. ^

Older, mother-in-law is asymptomatic, but somehow knew she was infected.

Healthy man in his early 40's on a ventilator.

Kids actually have symptoms.

Weird

The mother in law got tested, I'm guessing originally had symptoms that concerned her, knew about it but didn't say anything according to her. I think she "looked" asymptotic to them. I dunno.

There's probably more details that would make the dots connect better, but I'm not gonna beg a stuffed up miserable person with pneumonia to please clarify better so that I can make sense of it all.
I had just broken off a quick phone call to check on her, see if there's anything I could do.

[Blake]

what state?
The mother in law tested positive?

Indiana

[elbamba1]

The mother in law got tested, knew about it but didn't say anything according to her. There's probably more details that would make the dots connect better, but I'm not gonna beg a stuffed up miserable person with pneumonia to please clarify better so that I can make sense of it all.
I had just broken off a quick phone call to check on her, see if there's anything I could do.

ask him between breaths on the ventilator.

[baseline bum]

Man, that's crazy. A lot of outliers here. ^

Older, mother-in-law is asymptomatic, but somehow knew she was infected.

Healthy man in his early 40's on a ventilator.

Kids actually have symptoms.

Weird

I never heard kids were supposed to be asymptomatic at a high rate. Just that they didn't often develop the pneumonia from an immune system over response, and hence the very low mortality rates for them.

[elbamba1]

Can you get tested?

I believe in Texas you have to have symptoms. One of the biggest complaints is that we don’t have enough tests to give to asymptomatic people.

i don’t doubt the veracity of the situation, but I suspect there are a few facts that Blake doesn’t have.

We had a family member go on the ventilator and was in the ICU for 3 weeks. She is getting out of the hospital next week fingers crossed. This is serious shit and people should be taking better precautions than they are.

[Blake]

ask him between breaths on the ventilator.

"Dude, I know you're busy but I need to clear this up for DarrinS. Wtf exactly happened with your mom? Sorry I can't hear you, can I turn this machine off?"

[Spurtacular]

"Dude, I know you're busy but I need to clear this up for DarrinS. Wtf exactly happened with your mom? Sorry I can't hear you, can I turn this machine off?"

I sure hope that alt clears that up for you, board cuckold.

[baseline bum]

I believe in Texas you have to have symptoms. One of the biggest complaints is that we don’t have enough tests to give to asymptomatic people.

i don’t doubt the veracity of the situation, but I suspect there are a few facts that Blake doesn’t have.

We had a family member go on the ventilator and was in the ICU for 3 weeks. She is getting out of the hospital next week fingers crossed. This is serious shit and people should be taking better precautions than they are.

Shit that had to be terrifying being in the ICU for 3 weeks with only her thoughts to accompany her. Glad to hear it sounds she is recovering.

[baseline bum]

I've got two anecdotes:

1) I went to 54th Street for pickup and the place was packed. Drove around back to check out the patio dining and every table was taken. No customers wearing masks. Pretty clear a large number are pushing past the 25% limit.

2)I have a cousin and her family (out of state) that came down with covid this week. She and husband are in early 40s, no underlying conditions. Husband started turning purple from lack of oxygen, rushed to hospital and is currently on ventilator. She has developed pneumonia but just got released from hospital. Three kids have it but just complaining of flu symptoms.

She said they never went out except to store. Turns out they had a few visits from asshole mother in law who KNEW she was infected but didn't tell them because she was apparently asymptomatic and they assumed she was fine. Now her son is on a fucking ventilator.

Anecdotal point being that next to nobody is taking this shit serious enough.

Man I'd be fucking pissed.

[ChumpDumper]

SMH just got a FB live from a house party in the area. Dude.

[Blake]

Man I'd be fucking pissed.

Absolutely, she's enraged.

[Blake]

SMH just got a FB live from a house party in the area. Dude.

I'm telling ya...

[ChumpDumper]

I'm telling ya...I've said it before and I'll say it again...

lol white people

[dbestpro]

Even with the Coronavirus the death rate remains lower than in was in 1990 and most previous years. (1990 - 8.98) (2020 -8.8). Part of the reason is less accidental deaths do to less activity.

[clambake]

Even with the Coronavirus the death rate remains lower than in was in 1990 and most previous years. (1990 - 8.98) (2020 -8.8). Part of the reason is less accidental deaths do to less activity.

Get out there, buddy

What are you doing?

[slick'81]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

lol white people


Meanwhile there have been three massive partys on my street in the last two weeks and not a white person on site at any of them.
Lol white people though amirite?

[pgardn]

Traffic has clearly picked up in SA.

But the stores and even outside are still facemasking and keeping distance in my hood.
NW SA off DeZavala. Have seen zero parties. But my wife said she read someone in our neighborhood had died (on that irritating neighborhood site) so it might have led to some fear. They usually just gripe about seeing snakes or getting buzzed by a hawk.

[ChumpDumper]

Meanwhile there have been three massive partys on my street in the last two weeks and not a white person on site at any of them.
Lol white people though amirite?lol those people too if you want. Has no effect on my lol white people. I've seen only family get togethers around me which are bad enough.

[tholdren]

lol those people too if you want. Has no effect on my lol white people. I've seen only family get togethers around me which are bad enough.
I'd say grown men on fb worse than speculation. You guilty of both. Carry on...

[DarrinS]

lol those people too if you want. Has no effect on my lol white people. I've seen only family get togethers around me which are bad enough.

You're on to something here. Media should investigate.

[tholdren]

Wonder how a party or family gathering that you didn't go to, would put you at risk for infection? Thats odd

[ChumpDumper]

Wonder how a party or family gathering that you didn't go to, would put you at risk for infection? Thats oddlol straw man

[tholdren]

lol straw man

Deflection... per usual. Quick get on Facebook. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

You're on to something here. Media should investigate.Investigate what? What people doing whatever they want? Not news.

[ChumpDumper]

Deflection... per usual. Quick get on Facebook. LolIt's not deflection. You made a straw man fallacy.

[tholdren]

Investigate what? What people doing whatever they want? Not news.

Quick tell us how you'd get it. Lol

[tholdren]

It's not deflection. You made a straw man fallacy.

bwahahhaahaahahha.

[ChumpDumper]

Quick tell us how you'd get it. Lol


bwahahhaahaahahha.You keep building the same straw man.

[tholdren]

You keep building the same straw man.

those family gatherings... elaborate.. lol.

[ChumpDumper]

those family gatherings... elaborate.. lol.Elaborate what?

[tholdren]

Elaborate what?

lolololol how dangerous they are for you

[ChumpDumper]

lolololol how dangerous they are for youWhen did I say they were dangerous for me?

[tholdren]

When did I say they were dangerous for me?

you are so scared to get it, because you said its so dangerous and family gatherings would give it to everyone who attended. And you are afraid

[ChumpDumper]

you are so scared to get it, because you said its so dangerous and family gatherings would give it to everyone who attended. And you are afraidI said none of this. lol you have to lie

[tholdren]

I said none of this. lol you have to lie

so you arent scared? Its not dangerous? Why the sudden change?

[ChumpDumper]

so you arent scared? Its not dangerous? Why the sudden change?lolololol I win.

[tholdren]

Hmmmm no answer. Probably on that facebook

[ChumpDumper]

Hmmmm no answer. Probably on that facebookYou certainly never answered why you lied. That's why I win.

[tholdren]

You certainly never answered why you lied. That's why I win.

Lol chumpy Facebook doesn't know the science behind transmission. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Lol chumpy Facebook doesn't know the science behind transmission. LolSure I do.

And I made you lie.

I win.

[tholdren]

Sure I do.

And I made you lie.

I win.
I made you lie lolololololol

[ChumpDumper]

I made you lie lololololololSorry, you already lost.

[Blake]

1259312262109593600

"Bolton, 62, started to experience stroke-like symptoms Wednesday and was taken to Huntsville Memorial Hospital, where he tested negative for the coronavirus, the TDCJ said. He was then transferred to Conroe Regional Hospital and placed on life support.

A second COVID-19 test on Bolton came back positive...."

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/deaths-of-2-texas-correctional-officers-could-be-due-to-covid-19-tdcj-says/2366863/

Ehhh I guess they'll count this as covid related death. Otherwise that would mean he acquired covid while at the hospital

[slick'81]

1259312262109593600

"Bolton, 62, started to experience stroke-like symptoms Wednesday and was taken to Huntsville Memorial Hospital, where he tested negative for the coronavirus, the TDCJ said. He was then transferred to Conroe Regional Hospital and placed on life support.

A second COVID-19 test on Bolton came back positive...."

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/deaths-of-2-texas-correctional-officers-could-be-due-to-covid-19-tdcj-says/2366863/

Ehhh I guess they'll count this as covid related death. Otherwise that would mean he acquired covid while at the hospital


I dont but it. Said may have been related

[Blake]

I dont but it. Said may have been related

Which would mean he then acquired the virus at the hospital. Which is a really bad thing.

[slick'81]

Which would mean he then acquired the virus at the hospital. Which is a really bad thing.


Oh the humanity

[Blake]

Oh the humanity

Well, the dude is dead, so..

[Blake]

Elon melting down

1259162367285317633

[boutons_deux]

I dont but it. Said may have been related

strokes, at any age, are in C19 syndrome

[slick'81]

strokes, at any age, are in C19 syndrome


It is the heart destroyer

[boutons_deux]

It is the heart destroyer

C19 is a systemic inflammatory, hits everywhere, lungs, kidneys, brain, arteries, just like that other inflammatory, lupus.

that's why one suggested tactic for early symptoms is an immunosuppressant like corticosteroids, appears to keep the immune system from over-reacting, producing the fatal cytokine storm

[Blake]

"Five Injured in Shooting at Fort Worth Park Filled With 600 People, Police Say"

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/4-people-shot-at-fort-worth-park-police/2367062/

Jeez

[ChumpHumper]

"Five Injured in Shooting at Fort Worth Park Filled With 600 People, Police Say"

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/4-people-shot-at-fort-worth-park-police/2367062/

Jeez

BUT BUT WE HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT.

[Blake]

"4:30 p.m. – Gov. Abbott extends COVID-19 disaster declaration for all Texas counties. Originally issued on March 13 and extended on April 12, the declaration provides the state a number of resources to effectively serve residents as Texas continues to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.

"As we continue to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, our top priority remains the health and safety of all Texans," Gov. Abbott said. "By extending the disaster declaration, we are ensuring that Texas has the resources and capabilities in place to safely and strategically open the state while containing the spread of this virus. As we move forward in our response, I urge all Texans to continue following the health and safety guidelines laid out by the CDC and Texas’ team of medical experts."...

https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid-19-austin-central-texas-updates/269-60c07ff7-a45a-40af-a22c-5a0ad5e439d9

This pandemic is a disaster! Let's reopen!

[boutons_deux]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-5172225839312930565&th=1720bcbb737a350e&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9xKLLfTUEUW7sF41UDumTMgkcQ95MTtZvf7oh 2aXKInXhQ3iav_VuGjrRSekDYrzq8xR44HPKioiIpVAM_FDhZX uCtmzNYVUECN4VKneFYWf5V1XNVxd8ng-Y&disp=emb&realattid=ii_ka4phv6w0

-- for SA Rivard Report newsletter.

[boutons_deux]

Feds’ plan to pull 1,000 tests a day from Dallas,

could close two largest coronavirus sites

Case numbers have been flat for the last week but

it’s too early to know whether a peak has been reached, county judge says.


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/05/11/dallas-county-reports-253-new-coronavirus-cases-tying-its-single-day-high/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Politicians++mixed+messages+on+masks%2 C+controversy+over+Dallas+salon+opening+continues% 2C+feds+may+pull+Dallas+COVID-19+testing+sites&utm_campaign=Politics_05122020 (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/05/11/dallas-county-reports-253-new-coronavirus-cases-tying-its-single-day-high/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Politicians++mixed+messages+on+masks%2 C+controversy+over+Dallas+salon+opening+continues% 2C+feds+may+pull+Dallas+COVID-19+testing+sites&utm_campaign=Politics_05122020)

[boutons_deux]

Feds’ plan to pull 1,000 tests a day from Dallas,

could close two largest coronavirus sites


by stopping testing, Trash's Feds are magikly stopping infections.

[boutons_deux]

Mayor:

Texas AG Aiming for ‘Cheap Political Headline’ With Warning Letter

https://i2.wp.com/therivardreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/nirenberg-paxton-1-composite-5-12-2020.jpg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1

San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg and Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff

dismissed claims made by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Tuesday that local stay-at-home orders conflict with the governor’s executive orders.

“This is not unlike what we’ve seen from the agency’s office recently, in terms of firing off a political letter like this,” Nirenberg said.

“And so on the merits we’re not concerned,

but it doesn’t stop the AG from seeking a cheap political headline.”

https://therivardreport.com/mayor-texas-ag-aiming-for-cheap-political-headline-with-warning-letter/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=govpolitics&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=e65d245419-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-e65d245419-84683437&mc_cid=e65d245419&mc_eid=54a5432c74 (https://therivardreport.com/mayor-texas-ag-aiming-for-cheap-political-headline-with-warning-letter/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=govpolitics&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=e65d245419-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-e65d245419-84683437&mc_cid=e65d245419&mc_eid=54a5432c74)

[boutons_deux]

Trash, in rare presidential move, urges Dallas voters to oust judge who enforced governor’s order on hair salons

Trump retweeted a claim that the shutdown order was illegal,

glossing past Gov. Greg Abbott’s hand in the ban on nonessential business,

echoing call to unseat Judge Eric Moyé in November.


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/05/11/trump-in-rare-presidential-move-urges-dallas-voters-to-oust-judge-who-enforced-governors-order-on-hair-salons/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Politicians++mixed+messages+on+masks%2 C+controversy+over+Dallas+salon+opening+continues% 2C+feds+may+pull+Dallas+COVID-19+testing+sites&utm_campaign=Politics_05122020 (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/05/11/trump-in-rare-presidential-move-urges-dallas-voters-to-oust-judge-who-enforced-governors-order-on-hair-salons/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Politicians++mixed+messages+on+masks%2 C+controversy+over+Dallas+salon+opening+continues% 2C+feds+may+pull+Dallas+COVID-19+testing+sites&utm_campaign=Politics_05122020)

btw, she didn't have to open because she received $18,000 PPP.

Nothing but a fucking stunt, typical Repug fraud. Confederate Texas still fighting any and all guvmint

[RandomGuy]

1259312262109593600

"Bolton, 62, started to experience stroke-like symptoms Wednesday and was taken to Huntsville Memorial Hospital, where he tested negative for the coronavirus, the TDCJ said. He was then transferred to Conroe Regional Hospital and placed on life support.

A second COVID-19 test on Bolton came back positive...."

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/deaths-of-2-texas-correctional-officers-could-be-due-to-covid-19-tdcj-says/2366863/

Ehhh I guess they'll count this as covid related death. Otherwise that would mean he acquired covid while at the hospital

All tests have false negatives and positives. That is why you do second tests.

[RandomGuy]

Mayor:

Texas AG Aiming for ‘Cheap Political Headline’ With Warning Letter

https://i2.wp.com/therivardreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/nirenberg-paxton-1-composite-5-12-2020.jpg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1

San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg and Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff

dismissed claims made by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Tuesday that local stay-at-home orders conflict with the governor’s executive orders.

“This is not unlike what we’ve seen from the agency’s office recently, in terms of firing off a political letter like this,” Nirenberg said.

“And so on the merits we’re not concerned,

but it doesn’t stop the AG from seeking a cheap political headline.”

https://therivardreport.com/mayor-texas-ag-aiming-for-cheap-political-headline-with-warning-letter/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=govpolitics&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=e65d245419-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-e65d245419-84683437&mc_cid=e65d245419&mc_eid=54a5432c74 (https://therivardreport.com/mayor-texas-ag-aiming-for-cheap-political-headline-with-warning-letter/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=govpolitics&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=e65d245419-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-e65d245419-84683437&mc_cid=e65d245419&mc_eid=54a5432c74)




I guess they are trying to get Democrats angry enough to get out and vote in November. I approve. Blue Wave baby.

[RandomGuy]

"4:30 p.m. – Gov. Abbott extends COVID-19 disaster declaration for all Texas counties. Originally issued on March 13 and extended on April 12, the declaration provides the state a number of resources to effectively serve residents as Texas continues to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.

"As we continue to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, our top priority remains the health and safety of all Texans," Gov. Abbott said. "By extending the disaster declaration, we are ensuring that Texas has the resources and capabilities in place to safely and strategically open the state while containing the spread of this virus. As we move forward in our response, I urge all Texans to continue following the health and safety guidelines laid out by the CDC and Texas’ team of medical experts."...

https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid-19-austin-central-texas-updates/269-60c07ff7-a45a-40af-a22c-5a0ad5e439d9

This pandemic is a disaster! Let's reopen!

Leaked White House data shows infections spiking more than 1,000% in rural areas that backed Trump
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/leaked-white-house-data-shows-infections-spiking-more-than-1000-in-rural-areas-that-backed-trump

[DMC]

Leaked White House data shows infections spiking more than 1,000% in rural areas that backed Trump
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/leaked-white-house-data-shows-infections-spiking-more-than-1000-in-rural-areas-that-backed-trump

The virus has now chosen a side.

[RandomGuy]

The virus has now chosen a side.

Looks like. It's almost as if making a political identity out of not taking precautions, not taking masks, and ignoring the science might contribute to spreading it.

[DMC]

Looks like. It's almost as if making a political identity out of not taking precautions, not taking masks, and ignoring the science might contribute to spreading it.

Because everyone on the left wears masks and everyone on the right doesn't. Are you really this fucking stupid?

[tholdren]

Looks like. It's almost as if making a political identity out of not taking precautions, not taking masks, and ignoring the science might contribute to spreading it.
What science are people ignoring?

[RandomGuy]

[strawman][personal attack]

[boredom]

[RandomGuy]

What science are people ignoring?

https://www.chron.com/news/article/Colorado-restaurant-criticized-for-offering-full-15261566.php

Social distancing, staying at home, wearing masks.

[Blake]

1260315801049083904

:corn:

[ChumpDumper]

1260315801049083904

:corn:"Texas AG intentionally causes more confusion"

[hombre]

More Republican big government bullshit.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.chron.com/news/article/Colorado-restaurant-criticized-for-offering-full-15261566.php

Social distancing, staying at home, wearing masks.

... missing in that list is testing and tracing of contacts by infected people

For rightwing Americans, their freedumb has become sociopathic.

"I exercise (I'm overweight/obese, so not that "exercise") my Rugged Individual Macho Man KickYerAss freedumb, no matter who or what it hurts or kills. so, FUCK YOU"

[boutons_deux]

Shitbag Texas Attorney General Asks Supreme Court to Weigh in on Voting by Mail

Paxton (https://www.texastribune.org/directory/ken-paxton/) is asking the Texas Supreme Court to weigh in on his interpretation of how voters can qualify for absentee ballots during the coronavirus pandemic.

Various lawsuits are pending over whether eligibility for

mail-in ballots can be expanded to voters who risk contracting the virus by voting in person.

Paxton believes it can’t,

and Wednesday asked the state’s highest civil court to issue a relatively rare writ of mandamus preventing local election officials from doing so.

the Republican attorney general asked the Texas Supreme Court to order election officials

in some of the biggest, largely Democratic counties in the state

to follow his reading of existing eligibility requirements for absentee voting,

arguing the court must step in quickly because those county officials intend to apply an “incorrect reading” of state law.

https://therivardreport.com/texas-attorney-general-asks-supreme-court-to-weigh-in-on-voting-by-mail/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=govpolitics&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=b941f85063-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-b941f85063-84683437&mc_cid=b941f85063&mc_eid=54a5432c74

of course, the 100% politicized and purchased Repug SCOTX will screw Dem counties and voters out of mail-in ballots

[BSfromTX]

https://www.chron.com/news/article/Colorado-restaurant-criticized-for-offering-full-15261566.php

Social distancing, staying at home, wearing masks.


An article from the houston chronicle about a Colorado diner is the science?

[RandomGuy]

An article from the houston chronicle about a Colorado diner is the science?

No. It is an example of people ignoring the science. If you want the actual science, you are just as capable of searching google as I am.

Masks, social distancing, and limiting contacts. The very fact that we have flattened the overall curve by doing all of those things should provide enough tentative proof to accept that as likely true.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1261000827646480385?s=19

WTF Texas farmers? :lol

[elbamba1]

https://www.chron.com/news/article/Colorado-restaurant-criticized-for-offering-full-15261566.php

Social distancing, staying at home, wearing masks.

Science doesn't take political sides. People from both parties make stupid individual decisions. It doesn't mean they deny science, it means they are selfish assholes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/chicago-mayor-defends-hairstylist-visit-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-n1181546

[elbamba1]

Again, both sides choose to ignore science for whatever reason.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-spreads-new-york-nursing-home-forced-take-recovering-patients-n1191811

I was happy to read that he has now reversed this policy, but Cuomo has NY blood on his hands for enforcing this mandate since March.

I can say all of this and still say that Trump's response to the Coronavirus was terrible and possibly the worst response a sitting president has ever had to any situation based on available information.

[boutons_deux]

Again, both sides choose to ignore science for whatever reason.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-spreads-new-york-nursing-home-forced-take-recovering-patients-n1191811

I was happy to read that he has now reversed this policy, but Cuomo has NY blood on his hands for enforcing this mandate since March.

I can say all of this and still say that Trump's response to the Coronavirus was terrible and possibly the worst response a sitting president has ever had to any situation based on available information.

too late

Cuomo Reverses Nursing Home Directive to Take COVID-19 Patients, Requires More Staff Testing

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cuomo-reverses-nursing-home-directive-to-take-covid-19-patients-requires-more-staff-testing/2410533/

[elbamba1]

too late

Cuomo Reverses Nursing Home Directive to Take COVID-19 Patients, Requires More Staff Testing

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cuomo-reverses-nursing-home-directive-to-take-covid-19-patients-requires-more-staff-testing/2410533/

I pointed out in my post that he reversed the policy. He was just late to the party choosing to ignore the science and people dying for over a month before reversing course. He also delayed sanitizing public transportation. That isn't okay. Its okay to be mad at him even though you are a democrat. You can call out a mistake or bad policy and no one will take your card away.

[Chucho]

Again, both sides choose to ignore science for whatever reason.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-spreads-new-york-nursing-home-forced-take-recovering-patients-n1191811

I was happy to read that he has now reversed this policy, but Cuomo has NY blood on his hands for enforcing this mandate since March.

I can say all of this and still say that Trump's response to the Coronavirus was terrible and possibly the worst response a sitting president has ever had to any situation based on available information.


Cuomo should feel rotten. He's the Grim Reaper of New York.

New York is such a fucking farce.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1261000827646480385?s=19

WTF Texas farmers? :lol

".....Echoing other county election officials, DeBeauvoir said the situation is not so easy to determine.

Applications for a mail-in ballot contain boxes to check for disability, age, being out of the county or being in prison. There is no place to indicate that fear of COVID-19 is driving the voter’s choice, and election officials emphasize that they have been trained — by the Texas secretary of state’s office, no less — to accept and not investigate a voter’s claim of disability.

When an application comes in, “I have no grounds on which to evaluate it,” DeBeauvoir said....."


No political motivation to see here. Move along.

[LkrFan]

".....Echoing other county election officials, DeBeauvoir said the situation is not so easy to determine.

Applications for a mail-in ballot contain boxes to check for disability, age, being out of the county or being in prison. There is no place to indicate that fear of COVID-19 is driving the voter’s choice, and election officials emphasize that they have been trained — by the Texas secretary of state’s office, no less — to accept and not investigate a voter’s claim of disability.

When an application comes in, “I have no grounds on which to evaluate it,” DeBeauvoir said....."


No political motivation to see here. Move along.

Sad :lol

[boutons_deux]

Texas Began Opening Businesses May 1. Now,

They’re Averaging 1,000 New Cases of COVID-19 a Day

Texas has only had two days where they didn’t reach 1,000 new coronavirus cases—May 4 and May 7—and five consecutive days of at least 1,000 new cases, the Hill (https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/497509-texas-sees-1000-new-coronavirus-cases-for-5-days-in-a-row) reports.

Texas, being the asshole state that it is,

didn’t even try to reach the White House benchmark of waiting

until they had at least “a 14-day consecutive decline in daily new COVID-19 cases before beginning to reopen,”

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) warned cities not to implement their own coronavirus guidelines to protect citizens because the state government had spoken.

more than 1,100 Texans have died from the virus,

but why would that stop an asshole from being an asshole—

and the entire state of Texas is an asshole. :lol NO! it's shitbag Repug shithole

https://www.theroot.com/texas-began-opening-businesses-may-1-now-they-re-aver-1843461029?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-15 (https://www.theroot.com/texas-began-opening-businesses-may-1-now-they-re-aver-1843461029?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-15)

[CosmicCowboy]

Boukaki, since you hate Texas so much you should really try to convince your mom to move that smokey singlewide to another state that you like.

[CosmicCowboy]

I saw this somewhere else and thought it was appropriate for this thread. I didn't write it.

“Flattening the curve didn’t mean stop the infection, but spread it out so that the system could handle it. I am seeing so much anxiety about resuming business, and so much anger about continued regulations. People are feeling the need to catapult to one side or the other, then fight the opposition.

Here’s my perspective, from a mainstream medical model. I think a lot of folks have fallen into the idea that social distancing was meant to stop the viral spread. It wasn’t. It was meant to SLOW it while we put medical infrastructure in place. It’s not perfect, but it’s much better than it was seven weeks ago.

A vaccine is a long way off. At some point, people have to be systematically exposed to begin the building of (hopeful) herd immunity. We will likely begin to experience a real increase in cases after reopening. Ideally, that exposure is controlled and calculated, in phases, to allow our medical community to respond adequately, and reduce the number of severe or fatal cases. That’s where we are.

Whether you feel like things will be opening too soon, or not soon enough, we were never going to social distance this thing into nonexistence. You now need to proceed as your health, wallet, and conscience allow.

If you are medically vulnerable, you do not need to be a part of what is about to happen. Stay home if you can. If you’re not, or if your financial vulnerability trumps your health concerns, you need to proceed in ways that continue to protect yourself, and the elderly and medically vulnerable around you.

All of us need to calm down. Quit telling people who are financially struggling that they don’t care about human lives. Quit telling people who are truly at risk of dying from this virus that they are cowering in fear. Remember that until you’ve walked in someone else’s shoes, you should probably be careful in your judgements and subsequent harsh words.

We don’t HAVE to choose an either/or proposition and fight. We could choose other ways to be. Examples include but are not limited to:

“I think this may be too soon, so I will continue to shelter myself, and pray/make masks/ check on those who can’t.”

“I really need to go back to work, so I will do so, but I will be careful and try to protect myself, my family, and those around me with healthy strategies.”

See how those positions allow each of us to do what we need to, and also respect those who are choosing differently?

[boutons_deux]

Boukaki, since you hate Texas so much you should really try to convince your mom to move that smokey singlewide to another state that you like.

Kosmic Parasite, I don't hate Texas. G F Y

[RandomGuy]

Science doesn't take political sides. People from both parties make stupid individual decisions. It doesn't mean they deny science, it means they are selfish assholes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/chicago-mayor-defends-hairstylist-visit-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-n1181546

I have seen plenty of people on the right outright denying the science. Start with evolution, go on to climate change, then the natural progression to deny things about this that the right finds inconvenient.

This is not hard to find.

Science does not take political sides, but political sides now determine how much confidence you have in reason and evidence. The right has gone full argle bargle.

[RandomGuy]

I saw this somewhere else and thought it was appropriate for this thread. I didn't write it.

“Flattening the curve didn’t mean stop the infection, but spread it out so that the system could handle it. I am seeing so much anxiety about resuming business, and so much anger about continued regulations. People are feeling the need to catapult to one side or the other, then fight the opposition.

Here’s my perspective, from a mainstream medical model. I think a lot of folks have fallen into the idea that social distancing was meant to stop the viral spread. It wasn’t. It was meant to SLOW it while we put medical infrastructure in place. It’s not perfect, but it’s much better than it was seven weeks ago.

A vaccine is a long way off. At some point, people have to be systematically exposed to begin the building of (hopeful) herd immunity. We will likely begin to experience a real increase in cases after reopening. Ideally, that exposure is controlled and calculated, in phases, to allow our medical community to respond adequately, and reduce the number of severe or fatal cases. That’s where we are.

Whether you feel like things will be opening too soon, or not soon enough, we were never going to social distance this thing into nonexistence. You now need to proceed as your health, wallet, and conscience allow.

If you are medically vulnerable, you do not need to be a part of what is about to happen. Stay home if you can. If you’re not, or if your financial vulnerability trumps your health concerns, you need to proceed in ways that continue to protect yourself, and the elderly and medically vulnerable around you.

All of us need to calm down. Quit telling people who are financially struggling that they don’t care about human lives. Quit telling people who are truly at risk of dying from this virus that they are cowering in fear. Remember that until you’ve walked in someone else’s shoes, you should probably be careful in your judgements and subsequent harsh words.

We don’t HAVE to choose an either/or proposition and fight. We could choose other ways to be. Examples include but are not limited to:

“I think this may be too soon, so I will continue to shelter myself, and pray/make masks/ check on those who can’t.”

“I really need to go back to work, so I will do so, but I will be careful and try to protect myself, my family, and those around me with healthy strategies.”

See how those positions allow each of us to do what we need to, and also respect those who are choosing differently?

Eyup. This.

[BSfromTX]

I saw this somewhere else and thought it was appropriate for this thread. I didn't write it.

“Flattening the curve didn’t mean stop the infection, but spread it out so that the system could handle it. I am seeing so much anxiety about resuming business, and so much anger about continued regulations. People are feeling the need to catapult to one side or the other, then fight the opposition.

Here’s my perspective, from a mainstream medical model. I think a lot of folks have fallen into the idea that social distancing was meant to stop the viral spread. It wasn’t. It was meant to SLOW it while we put medical infrastructure in place. It’s not perfect, but it’s much better than it was seven weeks ago.

A vaccine is a long way off. At some point, people have to be systematically exposed to begin the building of (hopeful) herd immunity. We will likely begin to experience a real increase in cases after reopening. Ideally, that exposure is controlled and calculated, in phases, to allow our medical community to respond adequately, and reduce the number of severe or fatal cases. That’s where we are.

Whether you feel like things will be opening too soon, or not soon enough, we were never going to social distance this thing into nonexistence. You now need to proceed as your health, wallet, and conscience allow.

If you are medically vulnerable, you do not need to be a part of what is about to happen. Stay home if you can. If you’re not, or if your financial vulnerability trumps your health concerns, you need to proceed in ways that continue to protect yourself, and the elderly and medically vulnerable around you.

All of us need to calm down. Quit telling people who are financially struggling that they don’t care about human lives. Quit telling people who are truly at risk of dying from this virus that they are cowering in fear. Remember that until you’ve walked in someone else’s shoes, you should probably be careful in your judgements and subsequent harsh words.

We don’t HAVE to choose an either/or proposition and fight. We could choose other ways to be. Examples include but are not limited to:

“I think this may be too soon, so I will continue to shelter myself, and pray/make masks/ check on those who can’t.”

“I really need to go back to work, so I will do so, but I will be careful and try to protect myself, my family, and those around me with healthy strategies.”

See how those positions allow each of us to do what we need to, and also respect those who are choosing differently?

Perhaps one of the better posts this forum has ever seen.

[BSfromTX]

I have seen plenty of people on the right outright denying the science. Start with evolution, go on to climate change, then the natural progression to deny things about this that the right finds inconvenient.

This is not hard to find.

Science does not take political sides, but political sides now determine how much confidence you have in reason and evidence. The right has gone full argle bargle.


Both the right and the left spin their "experts" to support their cause.

You are right, science should be black or white and should not have any political favor, but when you have institutions supported by the state or UN, it becomes tainted. When hospitals' funding depends on a specific cause of death or diagnosis, that encourages dishonest "science"

We certainly should be able to look at science for the truth... problem is, humans have to much power to influence it.

Not to get into evolution, but for example, evolution can not prove that we evolved from apes. "missing link" is a real thing... does that mean species don't evolve? No, there is tons of evidence that supports evolution, but we do not have all the necessary links from ape to man, nor the links from "primordial soup" to ape. These lines get blurred by the scientists and politicians, yet it gets pushed.

PEOPLE promoting science is what is being questioned and it should be.

[boutons_deux]

“Flattening the curve didn’t mean stop the infection," who said it did?

"I am seeing so much anxiety about resuming business" haven't you seen what serious C19 cases do to people and how horrific the dying is?

"so much anger about continued regulations." only from Trash cult mob and Boogooloo Boyz

"People are feeling the need to catapult to one side or the other, then fight the opposition."

bullshit false equivalence.

People who want to protect themselves and family aren't fighting the re-open assholes who ARE fighting the stay-at-home crowd

"I think a lot of folks have fallen into the idea that social distancing was meant to stop the viral spread."

the folks think correctly. If the social distancing works, it stops the fucking spread.

"At some point, people have to be systematically exposed to begin the building of (hopeful) herd immunity"

How many of your victims to be sacrificed to death or damage to achieve your 250M American herd?

1% mortality is 2.5M dead. Right now, USA is at 6% mortality.

"We will likely begin to experience a real increase in cases after reopening. Ideally, that exposure is controlled and calculated, in phases, to allow our medical community to respond adequately, and

reduce the number of severe or fatal cases."

The medical community doesn't know, OBVIOUSLY, how to "reduce the number of severe or fatal cases", or else they would have done so.


"If you are medically vulnerable"

ALL age groups have been infected, damaged, killed, from infants to otherwise healthy adults under age 60,

so how to know if one is "medically vulnerable"?

"if your financial vulnerability trumps your health concerns"

10Ms of American are financially vulnerable before C19,

and now 10Ms more have lost employer health insurance.

one uninsured lady got home from ICU with $37K bill.

And Trash REFUSES to re-open ACA signups, to spite his hated knitter smart bruvva Obama.

“I really need to go back to work, so I will do so, but I will be careful and try to protect myself, my family, and those around me with healthy strategies.”

Everywhere that has tried re-opening has seen spikes in cases and deaths.

[CosmicCowboy]

“Flattening the curve didn’t mean stop the infection," who said it did?

"I am seeing so much anxiety about resuming business" haven't you seen what serious C19 cases do to people and how horrific the dying is?

"so much anger about continued regulations." only from Trash cult mob and Boogooloo Boyz

"People are feeling the need to catapult to one side or the other, then fight the opposition."

bullshit false equivalence.

People who want to protect themselves and family aren't fighting the re-open assholes who ARE fighting the stay-at-home crowd

"I think a lot of folks have fallen into the idea that social distancing was meant to stop the viral spread."

the folks think correctly. If the social distancing works, it stops the fucking spread.

"At some point, people have to be systematically exposed to begin the building of (hopeful) herd immunity"

How many of your victims to be sacrificed to death or damage to achieve your 250M American herd?

1% mortality is 2.5M dead. Right now, USA is at 6% mortality.

"We will likely begin to experience a real increase in cases after reopening. Ideally, that exposure is controlled and calculated, in phases, to allow our medical community to respond adequately, and

reduce the number of severe or fatal cases."

The medical community doesn't know, OBVIOUSLY, how to "reduce the number of severe or fatal cases", or else they would have done so.


"If you are medically vulnerable"

ALL age groups have been infected, damaged, killed, from infants to otherwise healthy adults under age 60,

so how to know if one is "medically vulnerable"?

"if your financial vulnerability trumps your health concerns"

10Ms of American are financially vulnerable before C19,

and now 10Ms more have lost employer health insurance.

one uninsured lady got home from ICU with $37K bill.

And Trash REFUSES to re-open ACA signups, to spite his hated knitter smart bruvva Obama.

“I really need to go back to work, so I will do so, but I will be careful and try to protect myself, my family, and those around me with healthy strategies.”

Everywhere that has tried re-opening has seen spikes in cases and deaths.




Fuck you, Boutons.

Maybe you can hide in your mom's smokey singlewide, but other people need to work as safely as they can. Nobody likes this shit.

[boutons_deux]

Both the right and the left spin their "experts" to support their cause. :lol

bullshit, typicial rightwingnutjob Bible-humping false equivalence.

Not to get into evolution, :lol so let's get into evolution :lol

but for example, evolution can not prove that we evolved from apes. :lol

"missing link" is a real thing... :lol which means what?

does that mean species don't evolve? jeez, at least ya got that right

we do not have all the necessary links from ape to man, :lol common ancestor doesn't mean apes became humans

=============
5 Skulls That Shook Up the Story of Human Evolution

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/5-skulls-that-shook-up-the-story-of-human-evolution

==============

nor the links from "primordial soup" to ape. :lol science is getting close, try to keep up

These lines get blurred by the scientists ??? and politicians, :lol and you Bible humpers

PEOPLE promoting science is what is being questioned and it should be :lol what? what's wrong about promoting science?

[BSfromTX]

Both the right and the left spin their "experts" to support their cause. :lol

bullshit, typicial rightwingnutjob Bible-humping false equivalence.

Not to get into evolution, :lol so let's get into evolution :lol

but for example, evolution can not prove that we evolved from apes. :lol

"missing link" is a real thing... :lol which means what?

does that mean species don't evolve? jeez, at least ya got that right

we do not have all the necessary links from ape to man, :lol common ancestor doesn't mean apes became humans

=============
5 Skulls That Shook Up the Story of Human Evolution

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/5-skulls-that-shook-up-the-story-of-human-evolution

==============

nor the links from "primordial soup" to ape. :lol science is getting close, try to keep up

These lines get blurred by the scientists ??? and politicians, :lol and you Bible humpers

PEOPLE promoting science is what is being questioned and it should be :lol what? what's wrong about promoting science?






The missing link is between lucy and modern homo sapien. "man evolved from apes" suggests a linear development. I won't dispute they are a common ancestor nor the pig for that matter (what we share a large portion of our genetic info with), but evolving from apes suggest that it was all evolution without any help (divine or otherwise).

bible humper is your response? Gee dang it, you got me.

Nothing wrong with promoting science. Presenting probably would be a more appropriate word. My point is people spinning science.

I am not right or left. I believe both sides have valid concerns and beliefs, and yes that even includes you. I don't dislike you or anyone in this forum, and I appreciate everyone's opinion and try to be respectful. I truly believe we all have a common enemy. I just don't think any of us here are certain exactly what that is.

[Blake]

We could choose other ways to be. Examples include but are not limited to:

“I think this may be too soon, so I will continue to shelter myself, and pray/make masks/ check on those who can’t.”

“I really need to go back to work, so I will do so, but I will be careful and try to protect myself, my family, and those around me with healthy strategies.”

See how those positions allow each of us to do what we need to, and also respect those who are choosing differently?

Lol "not an either/or proposition but here are your two options"

The problem with the bolded part is that you can be as careful as you can but if your employer or coworkers don't take the same precautions, you could be fucked. That's what some people still just don't seem to grasp.

[Blake]

Fuck you, Boutons.

Maybe you can hide in your mom's smokey singlewide, but other people need to work as safely as they can. Nobody likes this shit.

Yeah the bars that opened up look really safe.

[Blake]

Both the right and the left spin their "experts" to support their cause.

You are right, science should be black or white and should not have any political favor, but when you have institutions supported by the state or UN, it becomes tainted. When hospitals' funding depends on a specific cause of death or diagnosis, that encourages dishonest "science"

We certainly should be able to look at science for the truth... problem is, humans have to much power to influence it.

Not to get into evolution, but for example, evolution can not prove that we evolved from apes. "missing link" is a real thing... does that mean species don't evolve? No, there is tons of evidence that supports evolution, but we do not have all the necessary links from ape to man, nor the links from "primordial soup" to ape. These lines get blurred by the scientists and politicians, yet it gets pushed.

PEOPLE promoting science is what is being questioned and it should be.

Lol evolution denier.

I bet you were also one of the ones that said "hey maybe Trump is on to something the Lysol injection. It's worth a try!!"

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol "not an either/or proposition but here are your two options"

The problem with the bolded part is that you can be as careful as you can but if your employer or coworkers don't take the same precautions, you could be fucked. That's what some people still just don't seem to grasp.

The boogievirus is here. All the wishing in the world won't make it go away. Along with a lot of other things, the boogievirus is a calculated risk we take when we leave the house. Responsible people know they have to work to earn money to take care of themselves and their families. You do what you can to protect yourself and hope you don't get it.

[elbamba1]

I have seen plenty of people on the right outright denying the science. Start with evolution, go on to climate change, then the natural progression to deny things about this that the right finds inconvenient.

This is not hard to find.

Science does not take political sides, but political sides now determine how much confidence you have in reason and evidence. The right has gone full argle bargle.

The left has no problem ignoring basic biology. Both sides ignore science when it fits their agenda. But I don't disagree with you assessment regarding the right.

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah the bars that opened up look really safe.

I wouldn't know. You must be desperate.

[BSfromTX]

Lol evolution denier.

I bet you were also one of the ones that said "hey maybe Trump is on to something the Lysol injection. It's worth a try!!"

Didn’t say evolution does not exist. Genetics prove it

I am saying there is not enough evidence to confirm people evolved directly from apes. Please show me where I am wrong. Please show me the “science” and I will humbly concede

[Blake]

The boogievirus is here. All the wishing in the world won't make it go away. Along with a lot of other things, the boogievirus is a calculated risk we take when we leave the house. Responsible people know they have to work to earn money to take care of themselves and their families. You do what you can to protect yourself and hope you don't get it.

Ah back to "boogievirus" now. That didn't take long at all.

[ChumpDumper]

Didn’t say evolution does not exist. Genetics prove it

I am saying there is not enough evidence to confirm people evolved directly from apes. Please show me where I am wrong. Please show me the “science” and I will humbly concedeWho said we evolved from apes? The theory is apes and man evolved from a common ancestor. Most of the evidence is burning up in your car or a power plant or in some plastic shit somewhere.

[Blake]

Didn’t say evolution does not exist. Genetics prove it

I am saying there is not enough evidence to confirm people evolved directly from apes. Please show me where I am wrong. Please show me the “science” and I will humbly concede

Sorry I glossed over your post too fast, but you're still strawmanning. I don't see anyone saying people evolved directly from apes.

[spurraider21]

lol texas thread inevitably boils down to questioning evolution

[Blake]

I wouldn't know. You must be desperate.

Oh right, I'm chastising you for the "boogievirus" but I'm going to a bar.

Bars opening have been all over the news, dumbfuck

[CosmicCowboy]

Oh right, I'm chastising you for the "boogievirus" but I'm going to a bar.

Bars opening have been all over the news, dumbfuck

"chastising" :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

what a loser.:lol

[Blake]

"single-day high of 58 Texans’ deaths from the coronavirus were confirmed on Thursday, two weeks after Gov. Greg Abbott’s reopening.

The state has reported 116 deaths over the past three days, the most in a three-day stretch during the pandemic.

Of Thursday’s 58 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, three were in Tarrant County and six were in Dallas County..."

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article242747586.html

OPEN TEXAS!

[Blake]

"chastising" :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

what a loser.:lol

CC going derp mode. What an idiot.

[DMC]

The missing link is between lucy and modern homo sapien. "man evolved from apes" suggests a linear development. I won't dispute they are a common ancestor nor the pig for that matter (what we share a large portion of our genetic info with), but evolving from apes suggest that it was all evolution without any help (divine or otherwise).

bible humper is your response? Gee dang it, you got me.

Nothing wrong with promoting science. Presenting probably would be a more appropriate word. My point is people spinning science.

I am not right or left. I believe both sides have valid concerns and beliefs, and yes that even includes you. I don't dislike you or anyone in this forum, and I appreciate everyone's opinion and try to be respectful. I truly believe we all have a common enemy. I just don't think any of us here are certain exactly what that is.

Stick around a little, you'll learn to dislike Boutons.

[DMC]

lol texas thread inevitably boils down to questioning evolution

Nah it boils down to strawman and basically dishonest, chickenshit responses like yours.

[CosmicCowboy]

"single-day high of 58 Texans’ deaths from the coronavirus were confirmed on Thursday, two weeks after Gov. Greg Abbott’s reopening.

The state has reported 116 deaths over the past three days, the most in a three-day stretch during the pandemic.

Of Thursday’s 58 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, three were in Tarrant County and six were in Dallas County..."

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article242747586.html

OPEN TEXAS!

Well, one benefit for you hiding out at home is Sancho can't sneak in. Sucks for your SO though.