Texas response to Corona virus

[Blake]

You guys really need this GOTCHA pretty bad

[Winehole23]

You guys really need this GOTCHA pretty badEh, the attribution turned out to bad but the picture it draws isn't far off.

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, the attribution turned out to bad but the picture it draws isn't far off.It's odd. One hospital in the valley set up a tent ward in its ambulance bay. Another has scores of beds available but no one to staff them. Latest plan is to have COVID patients recover in hotels.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/therealarod1984/status/1284862595963465729

[Winehole23]

It's odd. One hospital in the valley set up a tent ward in its ambulance bay. Another has scores of beds available but no one to staff them. Latest plan is to have COVID patients recover in hotels. Having dedicated convalescent space would seem to make sense given how long recovery takes for bad cases and how long people can shed virus (up to 39 days)

I hope this spike is scary enough to alter behavior. From what I've seen in Austin this weekend, that would not appear to be the case.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/therealarod1984/status/1284862595963465729

He didn't post any data about Mexican nationals.

[ChumpDumper]

Having dedicated convalescent space would seem to make sense given how long recovery takes for bad cases and how long people can shed virus (up to 39 days)

I hope this spike is scary enough to alter behavior. From what I've seen in Austin this weekend, that would not appear to be the case.I'm in the bunker for the most part while the numbers are this high. Will have to take your word on it.

[Winehole23]

I'm in the bunker for the most part while the numbers are this high. Will have to take your word on it.I have to go out nearly every day, I see crowded stores and restaurants and brisk weekend traffic.

[ChumpDumper]

I have to go out nearly every day, I see crowded stores and restaurants and brisk weekend traffic.https://media1.tenor.com/images/edba801a4129728e796e33baef217ffb/tenor.gif

[Winehole23]

Brisk cuts both ways: I saw a lot of traffic, but it was moving along smoothly. It ain't no normal pre-COVID style Saturday yet.

https://www.kxan.com/traffic/

[RandomGuy]

Having dedicated convalescent space would seem to make sense given how long recovery takes for bad cases and how long people can shed virus (up to 39 days)

I hope this spike is scary enough to alter behavior. From what I've seen in Austin this weekend, that would not appear to be the case.

I don't think we change our behavior until the governor takes it seriously. The governor won't take it seriously until hundreds of people start dying in hallways.

Hate to have the cynical take, but that seems to be where it is headed.

[Winehole23]

I don't think we change our behavior until the governor takes it seriously. The governor won't take it seriously until hundreds of people start dying in hallways.

Hate to have the cynical take, but that seems to be where it is headed.Bad leadership will blame the people for misbehaving instead of taking responsibility for solving the problem.

[RandomGuy]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

With your record of premature posts, I would think you would be a lot more hesitant to call things.

[tholdren]

I don't think we change our behavior until the governor takes it seriously. The governor won't take it seriously until hundreds of people start dying in hallways.

Hate to have the cynical take, but that seems to be where it is headed.

You said this would happen two weeks ago. Every week for 4 months.

[tholdren]

With your record of premature posts, I would think you would be a lot more hesitant to call things.

RandomGuy lack of self awareness. Astonishing.

[RandomGuy]

Why are politicians allowed to lie through their fuckin' teeth like this (go ahead and find examples of Dems lying, Wingnuts. Anyone should be called out.):

1280374566280445952

"California is spiking more."

No.

Texas:

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

California:

https://i.imgur.com/pLeXB4M.png

California ain't trending too hot, either, but Texas's trending is a lot worse. 27 percent positive rate today vs. CA's 12 percent. And Texas has 2000 more hospitalizations with their trend on a steeper incline.

Due in part probably to Texas having a greater of tholdrens. But we have our share, too, and Newsom and local governments have caved to the Freedumbs crowd.

That is some cherry picking shit by the governor. :spin

They are going to stand by the "death rate" until it gets close. Splits thinks it won't, but I am not so sure. We need to act to stop the spread, but I don't think we will do that effectively. I think the plateau will be a lot less than NY, but a lot longer. This shit is just going to bounce around for a while.

[RandomGuy]

Because 2020 isn't fucked enough, what happens when hurricane season hits?


And a hurricane in the middle of a pandemic was very much on our minds at NORTHCOM. We started calling it the COVICANE. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is calling for an above-average Atlantic Hurricane Season this year with a possibility of 19 named storms. We based some of our planning off Hurricane Harvey, which struck Cruz’s hometown of Houston in 2017. Typically, the National Guard and some active duty forces respond to hurricanes to provide things like search and rescue, engineering, and medical support. Rooftop helicopter rescues make for dramatic footage, but the truth is that the military does not do the bulk of the work. Instead, volunteer organizations like the Red Cross lead the effort by managing shelters, feeding the hungry, and processing displaced families. My team looked at how COVID-19 might impact volunteers. What we found was scary.


Foremost, most members of these volunteer organizations are over 60 years old, putting them into the high-risk category for COVID-19. According to the American Red Cross, of their 21,000 trained disaster responders, 42 percent are over the age of 65, 43 percent are between 40-64; and just 13 percent are between 18 and 39. This means the people we need most in a disaster are also among the most vulnerable. The Red Cross says that it has procured PPE for its disaster workers, but we found that other volunteer organizations, given the already nationwide shortage, might not have enough. Everywhere we looked we found data indicating if we failed to flatten the curve, we would be risking the volunteer infrastructure so vital to hurricane response and recovery. It gets worse.

If volunteers aren’t available or if they get sick, the hard work of disaster response would fall on to the only other available pool of manpower: the military. This is problematic in its own way. If a COVICANE response stretches a state National Guard to the breaking point, active duty forces could be deployed to help. The Army only keeps a few active units on standby for what is known as the Defense Support to Civil Authorities mission. In a pinch, untrained active-duty forces could fill the gap and do their best. But the real problems would come after their exposure to the virus in the disaster zone.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/i-was-a-military-covid-planner-trust-me-texas-is-in-deep-deep-trouble

[RandomGuy]

Bad leadership will blame the people for misbehaving instead of taking responsibility for solving the problem.

Eyup. "everyone's at fault but me" the tone at the top matters.

[Winehole23]

You said this would happen two weeks ago. Every week for 4 months.You're straining at gnats, when has COVID-19 ever been worse in Texas than right now?

[RandomGuy]

You said this would happen two weeks ago. Every week for 4 months.

I said the hospitals would be overwhelmed indeed. Stand by that. We have hit capacity in a lot of them so far, and you can only push around new cases so much.

If I am wrong on it, I will own it. The system itself stands at 92% capacity statewide with many hospitals, including Hays Seton not able to take new cases, now meaning they are literally overwhelmed.

I can only hope the surge they will need to do will be enough to keep the worst case scenario from happening.

[DMC]

I don't think we change our behavior until the governor takes it seriously. The governor won't take it seriously until hundreds of people start dying in hallways.

Hate to have the cynical take, but that seems to be where it is headed.

Yeah, fear porn rules!

[RandomGuy]

[lazy non-take]

[boredom]

[DMC]

[boredom]

You should be bored, you've been running the same tired ass fear porn shit for weeks.

[Blake]

Lol DMC signed up with Team Plandemic

only a mild surprise tho

[tholdren]

I said the hospitals would be overwhelmed indeed. Stand by that. We have hit capacity in a lot of them so far, and you can only push around new cases so much.

If I am wrong on it, I will own it. The system itself stands at 92% capacity statewide with many hospitals, including Hays Seton not able to take new cases, now meaning they are literally overwhelmed.

I can only hope the surge they will need to do will be enough to keep the worst case scenario from happening.

We have not. Stop lying

[tholdren]

0 hospitals over capacity

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[Blake]

"We’re full to the gills,” said Dr. Carlos J. Cardenas, chairman of the board at DHR Health.

In neighboring Cameron County, all of the hospitals were at or above capacity and holding patients in their emergency departments Monday, said Dr. James Castillo, the county health authority. Some were converting or eyeing areas not typically used for patient care, like conference rooms or lobbies, he said.

At Valley Baptist Medical Centers in Brownsville and Harlingen — which keep opening new units to care for critically ill patients — there were people waiting in the emergency room hallways for treatment this week, said Dr. Jamil Madi, medical director of the ICU in Harlingen. The hospitals are nearly out of ventilators and are starting to consider older models and disaster ventilators that are less optimal for treating the virus, he said.

“There’s nothing else other than COVID. … You treat COVID, you look at COVID, you see COVID, you smell COVID, you hear COVID. Everything’s COVID,” Madi said. “There are two parallel worlds: The world inside the hospital and the world outside. … We need people to understand that it is a dire situation going on inside the hospital.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/14/texas-hospitals-coronavirus/

[DarrinS]

"We’re full to the gills,” said Dr. Carlos J. Cardenas, chairman of the board at DHR Health.

In neighboring Cameron County, all of the hospitals were at or above capacity and holding patients in their emergency departments Monday, said Dr. James Castillo, the county health authority. Some were converting or eyeing areas not typically used for patient care, like conference rooms or lobbies, he said.

At Valley Baptist Medical Centers in Brownsville and Harlingen — which keep opening new units to care for critically ill patients — there were people waiting in the emergency room hallways for treatment this week, said Dr. Jamil Madi, medical director of the ICU in Harlingen. The hospitals are nearly out of ventilators and are starting to consider older models and disaster ventilators that are less optimal for treating the virus, he said.

“There’s nothing else other than COVID. … You treat COVID, you look at COVID, you see COVID, you smell COVID, you hear COVID. Everything’s COVID,” Madi said. “There are two parallel worlds: The world inside the hospital and the world outside. … We need people to understand that it is a dire situation going on inside the hospital.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/14/texas-hospitals-coronavirus/


Hospitals are stressed. No doubt.

[tholdren]

"We’re full to the gills,” said Dr. Carlos J. Cardenas, chairman of the board at DHR Health.

In neighboring Cameron County, all of the hospitals were at or above capacity and holding patients in their emergency departments Monday, said Dr. James Castillo, the county health authority. Some were converting or eyeing areas not typically used for patient care, like conference rooms or lobbies, he said.

At Valley Baptist Medical Centers in Brownsville and Harlingen — which keep opening new units to care for critically ill patients — there were people waiting in the emergency room hallways for treatment this week, said Dr. Jamil Madi, medical director of the ICU in Harlingen. The hospitals are nearly out of ventilators and are starting to consider older models and disaster ventilators that are less optimal for treating the virus, he said.

“There’s nothing else other than COVID. … You treat COVID, you look at COVID, you see COVID, you smell COVID, you hear COVID. Everything’s COVID,” Madi said. “There are two parallel worlds: The world inside the hospital and the world outside. … We need people to understand that it is a dire situation going on inside the hospital.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/14/texas-hospitals-coronavirus/

That's strange because when you look at the hospital data covid patients are less than all others. Nothing other than covid is complete and utter dishonesty

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

^ gossip

Post count hero.

[ElNono]

Post count hero.

wrong

[Winehole23]

Ok, Gov. Abbott's daughter has married, soon comes the next lockdown.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, Gov. Abbott's daughter has married, soon comes the next lockdown.Heh, I heard that rumor too.

[Winehole23]

Heh, I heard that rumor too.
Anything to it?

Honest question.

[ChumpDumper]

Anything to it?

Honest question.Just hearsay. I don't believe it myself. Would be some shit if it happened.

[RandomGuy]

The governor won't take it seriously until hundreds of people start dying in hallways.


Yeah, fear porn rules!

You morons like your tidy little boxes. You figure out what little tidy box you can put something in and then ignore it because it's in a box.

Problem with this is that it wasn't even "fear porn" by your definition.

It was an estimation as to what it would take to get the Republican governor to do his job.

[tholdren]

You morons like your tidy little boxes. You figure out what little tidy box you can put something in and then ignore it because it's in a box.

Problem with this is that it wasn't even "fear porn" by your definition.

It was an estimation as to what it would take to get the Republican governor to do his job.

2 weeks

[midnightpulp]

2 weeks

50 percent increase in deaths per 7 day average over last two weeks. Apologize to RandomGuy.

[RandomGuy]

a wall of text showing children under 10 are not significant vectors for disease]


Ok, cool, what about adolescents, since they comprise tens of millions of students in our school systems?


another wall of text showing children under 10 are not significant vectors for disease]


Hmm That isn't really an answer. What about adolescents?


another wall of text showing children under 10 are not significant vectors for disease]


Older children spread the coronavirus just as much as adults, a South Korea study finds

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/older-children-spread-the-coronavirus-just-as-much-as-adults-a-south-korea-study-finds/articleshow/77046564.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

The study:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article

So yeah, adolescents seem to spread it, and spread it more than other groups. Doesn't seem safe to open more than half the schools in the country, and the other half still have no plan on how to protect the adults that run them.

[RandomGuy]

This virus is tough, but Texas is tougher


That doesn't explain the spike... :lol

Thttps://i.imgur.com/bMOZpLw.png

...maybe you think it is magic bible unicorns.

"Durr dee durr, I'm Snakeboy, and all those thousands of dead people that died from a flu-like illness in the middle of a pandemic were killed by an invisible tornado and forest fire and not the pandemic, that is a pure coincidence, because that would make Republicans look bad."

:rollin

You people don't understand how time works, don't understand math, and can't back up your assertions.

You can't explain why so many people suddenly decided to die if it wasn't the Pandemic. We have a very reasonable hypothesis: It is the pandemic.

You have what? Unicorn stabbings that coincidentally spike at the same rate the pandemic is? :rollin

[BSfromTX]

:lol

Video is from Mexico

Stupid fucking liberal sheep

Winehole23, inebriated propaganda machine... Boutons Trois


No doubt... Everyone in here rags on TGY for believing his videos, but don't even question this?

[Blake]

No doubt... Everyone in here rags on TGY for believing his videos, but don't even question this?

Right because this is exactly the same as tgy's YouTubes that contain satanic cult pictures in the background.

You guys must really need this GOTCHA badly

[tholdren]

You people don't understand how time works, don't understand math, and can't back up your assertions.

You can't explain why so many people suddenly decided to die if it wasn't the Pandemic. We have a very reasonable hypothesis: It is the pandemic.

You have what? Unicorn stabbings that coincidentally spike at the same rate the pandemic is? :rollin

randomguy still won't accept that he can't calculate with v of covid and places all lockdown deaths on covid.... 2 more weeks. Because he's told you so every 2 weeks since march.

Just wait.

[Death In June]

0 hospitals over capacityWrong. Hospitals here in the RGV are full. Our patients are being diverted. We are going to use hotels next week to house less critically ill patients. You can't tell me its not happening because I'm seeing it with my own eyes.

[spurraider21]

Wrong. Hospitals here in the RGV are full. Our patients are being diverted. We are going to use hotels next week to house less critically ill patients. You can't tell me its not happening because I'm seeing it with my own eyes.
that just means you're part of the conspiracy/hoax

[tholdren]

Wrong. Hospitals here in the RGV are full. Our patients are being diverted. We are going to use hotels next week to house less critically ill patients. You can't tell me its not happening because I'm seeing it with my own eyes.

How many are full? which ones? which are by design due to the jun 30 issue? and how many are crossing border to seek treatment?

[midnightpulp]

How many are full? which ones? which are by design due to the jun 30 issue? and how many are crossing border to seek treatment?

Lololol can't accept reality. A lockdown would've prevented that situation.

[tholdren]

Lololol can't accept reality. A lockdown would've prevented that situation.

Lol accepting reality = don't ask questions.


Bwahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahshahha

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1285253332584595457

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1285253332584595457We'll see what happens when we open the bars again.

[tholdren]

We'll see what happens when we open the bars again.

no hospitals over capacity like you said every week since march. Enjoy

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1285253332584595457

muh tweets :lol

[RandomGuy]

Wrong. Hospitals here in the RGV are full. Our patients are being diverted. We are going to use hotels next week to house less critically ill patients. You can't tell me its not happening because I'm seeing it with my own eyes.

Hospitals in Hays are full as well. Morons will say it is anything but COVID, like a sudden rash of unicorn stabbings, or whatever fucking stupid theory they tell themselves to keep Dear Leaders' fee fees from getting hurt.

[RandomGuy]

https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/node_images_768x510/public/05-19-15/1.jpg

AUSTIN TEXAS COVID ICU

PLEASE SHARE

My mom's uncle's 2nd cousin's friend had a neighbor who knew someone who worked here and took this photo, this needs to be national news how bad it's gotten in Austin Texas

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/166BA/production/_112043819_coronaicu2.jpg

[tholdren]

Hospitals in Hays are full as well. Morons will say it is anything but COVID, like a sudden rash of unicorn stabbings, or whatever fucking stupid theory they tell themselves to keep Dear Leaders' fee fees from getting hurt.

Hospitals are not

[RandomGuy]

https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/node_images_768x510/public/05-19-15/1.jpg

AUSTIN TEXAS COVID ICU

PLEASE SHARE

My mom's uncle's 2nd cousin's friend had a neighbor who knew someone who worked here and took this photo, this needs to be national news how bad it's gotten in Austin Texas

https://media.wcnc.com/assets/KVUE/images/883b08a8-3172-4d47-a20b-329a27f25f9b/883b08a8-3172-4d47-a20b-329a27f25f9b_1920x1080.jpg

[Blake]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/166BA/production/_112043819_coronaicu2.jpg

FAKE

[tholdren]

Hospitals in Hays are full as well. Morons will say it is anything but COVID, like a sudden rash of unicorn stabbings, or whatever fucking stupid theory they tell themselves to keep Dear Leaders' fee fees from getting hurt.

RandomGuy said every week for weeks to wait 2 weeks and then gave gossip accounts of full Hospitals. Now he continues to see data that proves him wrong and says twitter isn't reliable then tweets more photoshop


Lololololbwahahahahkeyboardmash

[ChumpDumper]

no hospitals over capacity like you said every week since march. EnjoyWhy do you lie every time you post since March?

[tholdren]

Why do you lie every time you post since March?

if only we mandated masks only at the airport, based on esa, Texas would have 0 covid. Because masks only work at airports.

[RandomGuy]

'I've never seen SO many people so, so severely sick' | Austin nurse chronicles COVID-19 situation on Reddit


According to Dr. DeVry Anderson, chief medical officer with St. David's South Austin Medical Center, the hospital has seen morgue space fill up and deceased COVID-19 patients have had to stay in their room while waiting for morgue space to clear. Anderson told KVUE they have not transitioned parts of the hospital to ICU-level, but they have moved ICU staff around to provide ICU-level care in the intermediate care (IMC) area for COVID-19 patients because the health status of those patients can deteriorate more quickly. However, Anderson said the hospital is open to making those changes to retrofit rooms if needed.

"We're committed, as we always have been, to our plan to utilize all available care space to include retrofitting other clinical rooms with equipment or with beds or with the staff needed to care for different levels of acuity," Anderson said.

Morgues are full. Dead patients left in rooms, as space is cleared. Refridgerated trucks on the way.

Surge medical personnel are being flown in.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-texas-hospitals-icu-capacity-reddit-post-texas-nurse/269-dde18c27-42c5-4c3e-ae46-01f193017a72

[ChumpDumper]

if only we mandated masks only at the airport, based on esa, Texas would have 0 covid. Because masks only work at airports.Why do you have to lie about everything?

[RandomGuy]

FAKE

That particular one is NOT from Austin. Think it is from Britain. Just wanted to show what is is really like. It isn't pleasant. :(

[tholdren]

Why do you have to lie about everything?

Remember when you said sweden lockdown fail and to ask denmark then denmark said lockdowns not scientific? That was great.

And remember when you said that denmark had a public mask policy? That was also great. And wrong. Lolooll

So now you dont want to listen to nordic countries because their science isn't in line with your views.


Sea lion

[Blake]

if only we mandated masks only at the airport, based on esa, Texas would have 0 covid. Because masks only work at airports.

Nobody ever said that ever. You're sad.

[Blake]

That particular one is NOT from Austin. Think it is from Britain. Just wanted to show what is is really like. It isn't pleasant. :(

A HA GOTCHA I KNEW IT WASN'T FROM AUSTIN. YOU LIBTARDS ARE SUCH IDIOTS

[ChumpDumper]

Remember when you said sweden lockdown fail and to ask denmark then denmark said lockdowns not scientific? That was great.Sweden did fail. Denmark succeeded.


And remember when you said that denmark had a public mask policy? They do.


So now you dont want to listen to nordic countries because their science isn't in line with your views.Sure, I'll talk about them.

You need to answer this question:

Why do you lie about everything?

[Death In June]

How many are full? which ones? which are by design due to the jun 30 issue? and how many are crossing border to seek treatment?
I'm specifically talking about Valley Baptist but the same holds true for places like McAllen Medical, Regional and DHR (though there is some controversy over this particular hospital). Do you think there is a surplus of space or staff?

[tholdren]

I'm specifically talking about Valley Baptist but the same holds true for places like McAllen Medical, Regional and DHR (though there is some controversy over this particular hospital). Do you think there is a surplus of space or staff?

From the txdshs data the region is not over capacity.

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[DarrinS]

Hospitalization down 5 straight days in SA

[ChumpDumper]

Hospitalization down 5 straight days in SAGood. Let's fire Balous.

[tholdren]

Good. Let's fire Balous.

no hospitals over capacity

[DarrinS]

And they aren't zipping up body bags in front of people who are waiting for beds.

[DarrinS]

Good. Let's fire Balous.

Who's that?

[ChumpDumper]

no hospitals over capacityf:lolldren's still ashamed of his failure.

[tholdren]

Wait 2 more weeks until..... nothing

[Death In June]

From the txdshs data the region is not over capacity.
Our county has 1,924 beds, some of which are labor and delivery and not currently being expanded for COVID patients. Thats before pop up units. We currently have 1,024 hospitalized COVID patients alone. Hospitals typically run at 50 to 60% capacity. Why is it hard to believe that there is very little room for any more people?

[tholdren]

Our county has 1,924 beds, some of which are labor and delivery and not currently being expanded for COVID patients. Thats before pop up units. We currently have 1,024 hospitalized COVID patients alone. Hospitals typically run at 50 to 60% capacity. Why is it hard to believe that there is very little room for any more people?

This is false

[ElNono]

This is false

wrong

[Blake]

This is false

Lie

[midnightpulp]

This is false

He works there. You're relying on data from hospital CEOs to keep the electives coming in and thus the money

[DarrinS]

Sometimes I come here to see if anything useful is posted. 99% of the time it's somebody arguing with tholdren.

Lame

[midnightpulp]

Wait 2 more weeks until..... nothing

Deaths have increased over 50 percent since two weeks ago.

https://i.imgur.com/ZXgeL8j.png

You owe RandomGuy an apology.

[midnightpulp]

Sometimes I come here to see if anything useful is posted. 99% of the time it's somebody arguing with tholdren.

Lame

Here's a projection for Texas from a guy who's been pretty on point.

1285150088206127105

[ElNono]

Sometimes I come here to see if anything useful is posted. 99% of the time it's tholdren making shit up.

Lame

fify

[Blake]

Sometimes I come here to see if anything useful is posted. 99% of the time it's somebody arguing with tholdren.

Lame

Kind of like how 99% of your posts are useless and whiny. It just is what it is sometimes.

[Blake]

".....We strongly encourage everyone, to just very simply, for a few months, wear a face mask whenever you go into public. That way you can make sure you do your part to slow the spread of COVID-19 and you do your part to save lives," Abbott said.

He said he's focused on the state's positivity rate and hospitalization numbers as things move forward.

When asked why the issue of wearing masks is such a divisive issue, Abbott said, "You know, because every doctor says that wearing a mask can slow the spread of the coronavirus ... it's mystifying why some people continue to reject it....."

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-gov-greg-abbott-update-on-coronavirus/285-2569dcb5-b687-4181-ba34-4e0dc0b35dcc


He didn't want to say this to the choir behind him at the church he attended with Pence a couple of weeks ago.

Fuck this guy

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sangfroyd/status/1285075969414434825

https://mobile.twitter.com/sangfroyd/status/1285208690132484096

[midnightpulp]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sangfroyd/status/1285075969414434825

https://mobile.twitter.com/sangfroyd/status/1285208690132484096

This is speculation because we don't know what symptoms need to present in order for Texas hospitals to consider a Covid-Like diagnosis. Their health department links the CDC list of symptoms, so I assume that's probably their guide. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html

Things is, we've learned a lot more about Covid since the start, and the range of symptoms are beyond the CDC's list now. Heart palpitations, numbness in extremities due to clotting, stroke-like symptoms. Another problem I have with his argument is that he seems to be using the increase in "with Covid" admissions as evidence that either people are getting sick with other illnesses and are simply testing positive and/or that the Covid deaths will start declining since CLI admissions are flat. Don't buy either.

The "with Covid" admissions have increased along with Texas's overall increase in Covid infections. Why weren't these people getting sick with other illnesses at the same rate before Texas starting spiking? And this was when the state was pretty much wide open, meaning elective surgeries were allowed and the fear factor was lower, so we can't conclude that these are simply people who delayed treatment for something who are now flooding in. This leads me to believe that Covid has exacerbated some preexisting condition or that they are presenting with symptoms that Texas doctors aren't classifying as Covid related (like stroke-like symptoms) yet.

And I don't expect deaths to remain flat over the next couple of weeks, as he seems to be implying, As I said, I think the logical conclusion is that Covid is exacerbating diabetic, hypertension, and other health conditions to a level where people are seeking medical care.

[TSA]

This is speculation because we don't know what symptoms need to present in order for Texas hospitals to consider a Covid-Like diagnosis. Their health department links the CDC list of symptoms, so I assume that's probably their guide. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html

Things is, we've learned a lot more about Covid since the start, and the range of symptoms are beyond the CDC's list now. Heart palpitations, numbness in extremities due to clotting, stroke-like symptoms. Another problem I have with his argument is that he seems to be using the increase in "with Covid" admissions as evidence that either people are getting sick with other illnesses and are simply testing positive and/or that the Covid deaths will start declining since CLI admissions are flat. Don't buy either.

The "with Covid" admissions have increased along with Texas's overall increase in Covid infections. Why weren't these people getting sick with other illnesses at the same rate before Texas starting spiking? And this was when the state was pretty much wide open, meaning elective surgeries were allowed and the fear factor was lower, so we can't conclude that these are simply people who delayed treatment for something who are now flooding in. This leads me to believe that Covid has exacerbated some preexisting condition or that they are presenting with symptoms that Texas doctors aren't classifying as Covid related (like stroke-like symptoms) yet.

And I don't expect deaths to remain flat over the next couple of weeks, as he seems to be implying, As I said, I think the logical conclusion is that Covid is exacerbating diabetic, hypertension, and other health conditions to a level where people are seeking medical care.

This is speculation.

[midnightpulp]

This is speculation.

So what is driving the increase in hospitalizations? Brisket eating contest gone wrong? Haven't looked at this guy's profile, but I bet he follows one of the Team Derpality truthers. Also see my latest in that thread where I reveal Hart's tricks.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285406100934852614

https://twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285409255093415936

[midnightpulp]

https://twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285406100934852614

https://twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285409255093415936

Harris County hasn't improved their situation. ICU and general beds up. And people dying tend to free up beds.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/shesinscrubs/status/1284950366744989696
Death In June is this in your area and can you confirm her claims?

[midnightpulp]

https://twitter.com/shesinscrubs/status/1284950366744989696
Death In June is this in your area and can you confirm her claims?

Time for some humor. I'd like to confirm her claims, if you know what I mean.

That said, DIJ said it was real bad there.

[DarrinS]

Most covid deaths yesterday were Hidalgo county, with 39.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sangfroyd/status/1285075969414434825

https://mobile.twitter.com/sangfroyd/status/1285208690132484096Motorcycle vs. brisket accident spike in Texas.

[RandomGuy]

Here's a projection for Texas from a guy who's been pretty on point.

1285150088206127105

had to borrow my kids phone to see it. (number of cases)*(fatality rate)=estimated fatalities.

This stuff isn't hard.

Given that Texas doesn't count probable fatalities we can start estimating the actual numbers of cases. The number of actual cases has been pretty steady at about 7 to 10 times the confirmed case load, so you can make some reasonable estimates based on this.

ICU hospitalizations have been holding fairly steady at 10.5K, so that will start producing a fairly steady death count.

[ChumpDumper]

had to borrow my kids phone to see it. Try a different browser.

[RandomGuy]

Try a different browser.

Then I would have to read Chris/TSA's tweets. I like it this way, it's sort of a time-saver, because the majority of the time their shit doesn't really pan out.


Edit-
That didn't work. Not going to put any effort into it. I don't use twitter, and see little need for it.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285648065332903936

[Splits]

:lmao 537 twitter follower begging gummibear and berenson for attention

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[TSA]

:lmao 537 twitter follower begging gummibear and berenson for attention

:lmao :lmao :lmao

What does that have to do with TMC looking to be past their surge?

[ChumpDumper]

Mitigation works.

[tholdren]

Mitigation works.

if you mean habdwashing and common sense yes.

Masks and lockdowns no

[ChumpDumper]

if you mean habdwashing and common sense yes.

Masks and lockdowns noYou locked down in your bunker for three months.

[tholdren]

You locked down in your bunker for three months.

another lie from the sea lion ar ar ar

[ChumpDumper]

another lie from the sea lion ar ar arIt's true. You ran to your bunker once you knew you were wrong about COVID. You've been afraid to show your math or post a link ever since. You only post links when we bully you into it and you're still too afraid to post your math.

[tholdren]

It's true. You ran to your bunker once you knew you were wrong about COVID. You've been afraid to show your math or post a link ever since. You only post links when we bully you into it and you're still too afraid to post your math.

never been wrong. Facts. And younare a self admitted bully? How noble of you

[ChumpDumper]

never been wrong.Wrong.

[Blake]

if you mean habdwashing and common sense yes.

Masks and lockdowns no

You really think masks don't work.

Pretty sure that's the final straw of confirmation for me that you really are a retarded old fuck.

[tholdren]

You really think masks don't work.

Pretty sure that's the final straw of confirmation for me that you really are a retarded old fuck.

none of the nordic countries believe it either. They are all old too

[TSA]

Harris County hasn't improved their situation. ICU and general beds up. And people dying tend to free up beds.

https://mobile.twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285757055496859650

[Winehole23]

last responders under pressure

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/21/texas-coronavirus-deaths-rio-grande-valley/

[Winehole23]

ambulances stacking up

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/coronavirus-texas-rio-grande-valley.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/coronavirus-texas-rio-grande-valley.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur)

[Winehole23]

1,000 deaths in ten days

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/20/coronavirus-deaths-texas/

[DarrinS]

Hidalgo and Cameron county getting disproportionately hammered.

[Winehole23]

1286059619685666821

[tholdren]

had to borrow my kids phone to see it. (number of cases)*(fatality rate)=estimated fatalities.

This stuff isn't hard.

Given that Texas doesn't count probable fatalities we can start estimating the actual numbers of cases. The number of actual cases has been pretty steady at about 7 to 10 times the confirmed case load, so you can make some reasonable estimates based on this.

ICU hospitalizations have been holding fairly steady at 10.5K, so that will start producing a fairly steady death count.

Your math lolooolooooollolokooklkkl

[tholdren]

had to borrow my kids phone to see it. (number of cases)*(fatality rate)=estimated fatalities.

This stuff isn't hard.

Given that Texas doesn't count probable fatalities we can start estimating the actual numbers of cases. The number of actual cases has been pretty steady at about 7 to 10 times the confirmed case load, so you can make some reasonable estimates based on this.

ICU hospitalizations have been holding fairly steady at 10.5K, so that will start producing a fairly steady death count.

Show how texas counts death. Give their definition

[midnightpulp]

Show how texas counts death. Give their definition

218 deaths today. Wear a mask, urge Abbott to shutdown, be safe

[tholdren]

218 deaths today. Wear a mask, urge Abbott to shutdown, be safe

Lolololpoll hiding from his name calling meltdown.
Where he proved he had no clue of how cases deaths reported...
Sad wrong gossip

[Winehole23]

Sure, the Texas Observer is old line Texas liberal (Bernie Rapoport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Rapoport) seed money, I believe), but they do cool investigative shit and have nuanced takes on state level public policy.

Maybe more telehealth could help.

https://www.texasobserver.org/telehealth-could-be-great-if-texans-had-access-to-it/

[midnightpulp]

Lolololpoll hiding from his name calling meltdown.
Where he proved he had no clue of how cases deaths reported...
Sad wrong gossip

They all died of a Brisket overdose, right?

[DarrinS]

Hidalgo and Cameron county getting disproportionately hammered.

Hidalgo had 49 deaths today. Cameron had 15.

[Winehole23]

Terrible loss of life. How can Texas start to fix this?

[ChumpDumper]

Hidalgo had 49 deaths today. Cameron had 15.Goalpost moved from NY in April to RGV in July.

[DarrinS]

Goalpost moved from NY in April to RGV in July.

Hidalgo had more deaths than Houston and Dallas today.

NY in April still dwarfs all of this.

[midnightpulp]

Hidalgo had more deaths than Houston and Dallas today.

NY in April still dwarfs all of this.

"At least we're not New York" is a shitty deflection. Texas had the outbreak controlled. Curve crushed. The citizens we're complying. And then Abbott "yolo'ed" the reopening and the spikes show the result. If Texas would've used the bought time to set up a comprehensive test-and-trace program, phased their reopening more slowly, they would've been enjoying Denmark levels of outbreak control.

Newsom did the same stupid shit in CA. So it isn't a D or R thing. Money talks (i.e, donors) to both parties equally as loud.

[ChumpDumper]

Hidalgo had more deaths than Houston and Dallas today.

NY in April still dwarfs all of this.Man, you still don't get it.

[Blake]

Lolololpoll hiding from his name calling meltdown.
Where he proved he had no clue of how cases deaths reported...
Sad wrong gossip

Ducks level grammar now

[Blake]

Man, you still don't get it.

NO YOU DON'T GET IT WE'RE WINNING THE COVID VS NEW YORK NURSING HOMES IN APRIL

[spurraider21]

"At least we're not New York" is a shitty deflection. Texas had the outbreak controlled. Curve crushed. The citizens we're complying. And then Abbott "yolo'ed" the reopening and the spikes show the result. If Texas would've used the bought time to set up a comprehensive test-and-trace program, phased their reopening more slowly, they would've been enjoying Denmark levels of outbreak control.

Newsom did the same stupid shit in CA. So it isn't a D or R thing. Money talks (i.e, donors) to both parties equally as loud.
yeah but you dont get it. abbot didnt send recovering covid patients back to nursing homes

[Trainwreck2100]

Goalpost moved from NY in April to RGV in July.

also never forget Chicago

[tholdren]

They all died of a Brisket overdose, right?

lololI'llololookllo


You said no probable death coubted.oloIiIokkook

[Blake]

lololI'llololookllo


You said no probable death coubted.oloIiIokkook

Tholderp's completely lost it

[boutons_deux]

Terrible loss of life. How can Texas start to fix this?

wishful thinking?

thoughts and prayers?

cover oneself in the blood of Christ?

The solution is well known, even badly whacked NYC has done it.

USA's problem is Repug governance of pro-Capital/anti-Labor at Fed and state level,

compounded by cultural bullshit mytha like "I DID Build This",

Rugged Individual as an Island, NOT social(ism!) solidarity to create and maintain The Commons,

whatever the Dems (want to) do, I must do the opposite To Own The Libs

My predatory, armed Macho Man sociopathic freedumb is free to impinge upon, limit your freedom.

What the pro-Capital Repug whores ignore is that the economy won't crawl back until the pandemic is beat down to where it is in all other industrial countries that have out-smarted, out-governed the USA.

The Trump-Made Pandemic with 100% Repug complicity, Never Forget

[tholdren]

Midnightpulp citing numbers he doesn't even know how they were calculated. Gossip

[tholdren]

Midnightpulp citing numbers he doesn't even know how they were calculated. Gossip

[RandomGuy]

[record day for deaths from COVID]


https://mobile.twitter.com/summers_llm/status/1285757055496859650

Silver linings I guess?

Not sure what you are going for here.

[tholdren]

Silver linings I guess?

Not sure what you are going for here.

continuing to debunk your terrible sensationalism

[pgardn]

continuing to debunk your terrible sensationalism

all is well, these deaths are due to pneumonia.

[Death In June]

https://twitter.com/shesinscrubs/status/1284950366744989696
Death In June is this in your area and can you confirm her claims?I can't. The clinical staff I know there are pretty isolated. I hear third hand accounts from nurses that the main building is full. I hear from others that its being closed off to COVID patients to allow for elective surgeries. I don't know who to believe on that one. It is a privately owned hospital and they have had fraud issues in the past. Its hard to believe working conditions are as bad the post make it out to be .The brief time I was there, my experience was great. But they have some baggage for sure.

[boutons_deux]

anybody really not think that Texas was a Repug shithole?

There's So Much Poop Along the Texas Coast, Swimming Could Make You Sick


https://media2.fdncms.com/sacurrent/imager/u/blog/24112919/pasted_image_0.png?cb=1595535333

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2020/07/23/report-theres-so-much-poop-along-the-texas-coast-swimming-could-make-you-sick

[DMC]

Hidalgo had more deaths than Houston and Dallas today.

NY in April still dwarfs all of this.

Did they all die the day they were reported?

[tholdren]

Did they all die the day they were reported?

No. And they were not all covid either.

[midnightpulp]

Midnightpulp citing numbers he doesn't even know how they were calculated. Gossip

Record report of 212 deaths today.

My advice. Stay at home as much as possible. When you go out, wear a mask. Write or call Abbott's office and urge him to shut down ALL non-essential businesses. Stay strong.

[Blake]

Record report of 212 deaths today.

My advice. Stay at home as much as possible. When you go out, wear a mask. Write or call Abbott's office and urge him to shut down ALL non-essential businesses. Stay strong.

Fuck

[Blake]

"An eye-opening study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said coronavirus cases are a lot higher than the numbers reported in some parts of the country — up to 13 times higher — because so many who were infected didn't know it and unwittingly spread the virus. Now, we're seeing the results of this undetected spread.

Confirmed cases in the U.S. are edging toward 4 million. The virus has killed more than 141,000 Americans. Texas recorded a thousand deaths in just 10 days. That's as many deaths as in the prior three months...."

At hospitals in the Rio Grande Valley, state health officials say 37 ICU beds are available. Hidalgo County is the epicenter.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-coronavirus-hospitals-cases-covid-19-war-zones/

STILL NOT CAPACITY JUST NORMAL JULY NUMBERS FOR HOSPITALS MOVE ALONG

[spurraider21]

"An eye-opening study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said coronavirus cases are a lot higher than the numbers reported in some parts of the country — up to 13 times higher — because so many who were infected didn't know it and unwittingly spread the virus. Now, we're seeing the results of this undetected spread.

Confirmed cases in the U.S. are edging toward 4 million. The virus has killed more than 141,000 Americans. Texas recorded a thousand deaths in just 10 days. That's as many deaths as in the prior three months...."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-coronavirus-hospitals-cases-covid-19-war-zones/
still not as bad as new york in april

[Blake]

still not as bad as new york in april

SCOREBOARD

[hater]

still not as bad as new york in april

Its just a tiny flu at this point. Minuscule

Time to bbq some queso

[Blake]

"Rio Grande City, Texas-based Starr County Memorial Hospital, implemented an ethics committee and a triage committee to review incoming COVID-19 patients, Starr County Health Authority Jose Vazquez, MD, said during a July 21 videoconference call. The committees will determine what type of treatment patients will likely require and whether they are likely to survive. Those deemed too fragile, sick or elderly will be advised to go home. Patients with low recovery chances will be better cared for at home with loved ones rather than dying at a hospital thousands of miles away, Dr. Vazquez said.

"There is nowhere to put these patients. The whole state of Texas and neighboring states have no ICU beds to spare for us," Dr. Vazquez said. The county of 61,000 residents has recorded 1,573 COVID-19 cases and 16 related deaths with 27 fatality cases pending, according to Border Report. As of July 22, 11,461 of 55,263 hospital beds are available statewide, with 1,088 ICU beds open. Currently, Texas has more COVID-19 patients hospitalized than any other state, with 10,848 COVID-19 patients as of July 22......."

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/our-backs-are-to-the-wall-texas-hospital-to-turn-away-covid-19-patients-with-poor-survival-chances.html


A who-gets-treated-panel

[hater]

"Rio Grande City, Texas-based Starr County Memorial Hospital, implemented an ethics committee and a triage committee to review incoming COVID-19 patients, Starr County Health Authority Jose Vazquez, MD, said during a July 21 videoconference call. The committees will determine what type of treatment patients will likely require and whether they are likely to survive. Those deemed too fragile, sick or elderly will be advised to go home. Patients with low recovery chances will be better cared for at home with loved ones rather than dying at a hospital thousands of miles away, Dr. Vazquez said.

"There is nowhere to put these patients. The whole state of Texas and neighboring states have no ICU beds to spare for us," Dr. Vazquez said. The county of 61,000 residents has recorded 1,573 COVID-19 cases and 16 related deaths with 27 fatality cases pending, according to Border Report. As of July 22, 11,461 of 55,263 hospital beds are available statewide, with 1,088 ICU beds open. Currently, Texas has more COVID-19 patients hospitalized than any other state, with 10,848 COVID-19 patients as of July 22......."

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/our-backs-are-to-the-wall-texas-hospital-to-turn-away-covid-19-patients-with-poor-survival-chances.html


A who-gets-treated-panel

Just old ppl dying in falls and gardening accidents tbqh

Time to bbq portobellos

[ChumpDumper]

"Rio Grande City, Texas-based Starr County Memorial Hospital, implemented an ethics committee and a triage committee to review incoming COVID-19 patients, Starr County Health Authority Jose Vazquez, MD, said during a July 21 videoconference call. The committees will determine what type of treatment patients will likely require and whether they are likely to survive. Those deemed too fragile, sick or elderly will be advised to go home. Patients with low recovery chances will be better cared for at home with loved ones rather than dying at a hospital thousands of miles away, Dr. Vazquez said.

"There is nowhere to put these patients. The whole state of Texas and neighboring states have no ICU beds to spare for us," Dr. Vazquez said. The county of 61,000 residents has recorded 1,573 COVID-19 cases and 16 related deaths with 27 fatality cases pending, according to Border Report. As of July 22, 11,461 of 55,263 hospital beds are available statewide, with 1,088 ICU beds open. Currently, Texas has more COVID-19 patients hospitalized than any other state, with 10,848 COVID-19 patients as of July 22......."

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/our-backs-are-to-the-wall-texas-hospital-to-turn-away-covid-19-patients-with-poor-survival-chances.html


A who-gets-treated-panelTrump's America.

[RandomGuy]

Just old ppl dying in falls and gardening accidents tbqh

Time to bbq portobellos

SnakeBoy getting dunked on by hater.

Still can't explain the spike can you?

[Winehole23]

death panels

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article244443257.html

[TimDunkem]

Dr.tholdren said hospitalizations flat tho'.

[tholdren]

Dr.tholdren said hospitalizations flat tho'.

hospitals are

[Winehole23]

another Texas Monthly feature on HEB

1286798583862370304

[tholdren]

0 hospitals over capacity

[boutons_deux]

25 July

9100 NEW cases

128 dead

... but all is cool with rightwingnugjobs who swear Repug govts are doing a great pandemic job

[boutons_deux]

Ted Cruz spews disgust at ‘waiters and waitresses’ who he says don’t deserve $600 unemployment checks

blasted waiters, waitresses and bus boys who he said

don’t deserve an additional $600 per week for being unemployed

during the coronavirus pandemic.

restaurant owners are at a disadvantage because

their staff doesn’t want to work while the pandemic is ongoing. :lol fucking duh! no-risk Cruz getting FULL PAY :lol

“I’ve spoken to small business owners all over the state of Texas who are trying to reopen,” he continued, “and they are calling their waiters and waitresses,

they are calling their bus boys and they won’t come back.” :lol Offer them $600/week, duh! :lol

“And of course they won’t come back because the federal government is paying them in some instances

twice as much money to stay home.” back work for $300/week? to risk you health and life? :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/ted-cruz-spews-disgust-at-waiters-and-waitresses-who-he-says-dont-deserve-600-unemployment-checks/

[tholdren]

25 July

9100 NEW cases

128 dead

... but all is cool with rightwingnugjobs who swear Repug govts are doing a great pandemic job

Died from?

[Winehole23]

1000 Texans have died from COVID-19 Texas during the last six days. It took 10 days for the previous 1000 deaths.


According to state health data (https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-coronavirus-cases-map/?_ga=2.21668219.1565740234.1595806377-775993412.1580945206) released Sunday, 5,038 people in Texas had died from the virus. That’s 153 more deaths than the day before and 1,080 more than a week ago. Public health experts have said that reported totals are likely to be an undercount (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/20/coronavirus-deaths-texas/) because not all people who died with coronavirus symptoms were tested.https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/26/texas-coronavirus-deaths/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/26/texas-coronavirus-deaths/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1595812642&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

[Blake]

1000 Texans have died from COVID-19 Texas during the last six days. It took 10 days for the previous 1000 deaths.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/26/texas-coronavirus-deaths/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/26/texas-coronavirus-deaths/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1595812642&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

BACK TO SCHOOL!

[Winehole23]

BACK TO SCHOOL!Safe to do when there isn't uncontrolled community transmission and there is adequate testing and tracing.

Closings and shutdowns aren't the enemy, COVID-19 is. If you want a normal life and a thriving economy, your priority should be working as hard as possible to beat the pandemic.

[tholdren]

BACK TO SCHOOL!

Deaths are not reported the day that they occur. This is fake news

[elbamba1]

BACK TO SCHOOL!

The Importance of Reopening America’s Schools this Fallhttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

I am not in favor of reopening schools. We just signed our kids up for online home school and withdrew them from NEISD. If everything looks better after Christmas, we will put them back in.

[Play Boban]

Texas has far fewer deaths than the USA as a whole tbqh. Truth nukes.

[Winehole23]

Texas has far fewer deaths than the USA as a whole tbqh. Truth nukes.Deaths are a single data point. Prolonged, painful recovery, strokes, organ damage and permanent disability can result.

[boutons_deux]

Not enough, yet, dead Mexicans and Blacks for Play Boban

[CosmicCowboy]

The large majority of Covid cases in Texas are under 50.

[RandomGuy]

The Importance of Reopening America’s Schools this Fallhttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

I am not in favor of reopening schools. We just signed our kids up for online home school and withdrew them from NEISD. If everything looks better after Christmas, we will put them back in.

Kids, especially littler ones, will be safe, but the teachers and parents? not so much.

Haven't really seen any plans or guidelines yet that seem practicable.

[RandomGuy]

Texas has far fewer deaths than the USA as a whole tbqh. Truth nukes.

"Does not include probable fatalities" Take whatever the official Texas tally is, and double it to get the actual count. Then go from there.

Texas has far fewer people than the USA as a whole, tbqh.

[tholdren]

"Does not include probable fatalities" Take whatever the official Texas tally is, and double it to get the actual count. Then go from there.

Texas has far fewer people than the USA as a whole, tbqh.

texas certainly does include probables, as confirmed. You just still don't get it.

Sad

[elbamba1]

Kids, especially littler ones, will be safe, but the teachers and parents? not so much.

Haven't really seen any plans or guidelines yet that seem practicable.

I agree. I am not sure why the CDC released this. It seems like ammunition for all the people that are pushing to open schools. Before we decided to home school this semester we reached out to our two smaller kids' elementary teachers from last year and they both expressed concerns about reopening. For that reason, we thought it best to pull out our kids. Our oldest is going into 8th grade and good luck making 24% of those kids wear a mask.

[RandomGuy]

I agree. I am not sure why the CDC released this. It seems like ammunition for all the people that are pushing to open schools. Before we decided to home school this semester we reached out to our two smaller kids' elementary teachers from last year and they both expressed concerns about reopening. For that reason, we thought it best to pull out our kids. Our oldest is going into 8th grade and good luck making 24% of those kids wear a mask.

Well, you are protecting yourself mainly by keeping them home, and helping to prevent the spread. We all need to do what we can.

CDC did that because, in all likelihood, they were ordered to do so by the Trump administration.

You can't really reopen schools until you have the spread contained. You can't contain the spread, unless you have stay at home and masks.

Republicans won't do either stay at home or masks. They argue against both, here and elsewhere.

Republicans will not, therefore, act to contain the outbreak. Schools will not, therefore, be open in places where Republicans are setting policy.

Pretty easy to draw a straight line there. Republican policy = economic damage = damage to kids education

The anti-science chickens are coming home to roost.

[pgardn]

The large majority of Covid cases in Texas are under 50.

As compared to .... I know its true I would just like a range of dates to compare this is compared against.

Because the majority of Texans are under 50. And the majority of frontline workers in hospitals are under 50. And they are getting were/are getting hit hard.

[tholdren]

As compared to .... I know its true I would just like a range of dates to compare this is compared against.

Because the majority of Texans are under 50. And the majority of frontline workers in hospitals are under 50. And they are getting were/are getting hit hard.

but they are not dying. /thread

[Winehole23]

As compared to .... I know its true I would just like a range of dates to compare this is compared against.

Because the majority of Texans are under 50. And the majority of frontline workers in hospitals are under 50. And they are getting were/are getting hit hard.Looks like CC has joined the "you don't need to worry about COVID-19 if you're not old" crew.

[tholdren]

Looks like CC has joined the "you don't need to worry about COVID-19 if you're not old" crew.

cdc using science

[Winehole23]

cdc using scienceCitations needed.

Be as specific as you can.

[tholdren]

Citations needed.

Be as specific as you can.

find any country or state giving strat data by ages and death. Cross with comorbidities.

Ifr for working class and under ifr lower than flu. Use texas and Florida. Lower median age with case. Fatalities not following that age.

Use stats not just raw numbers. Then you will be using science

[ChumpDumper]

IfrShow your math.

[tholdren]

Show your math.

you cant do math?

[ChumpDumper]

you cant do math?Show your math.

[baseline bum]

Looks like CC has joined the "you don't need to worry about COVID-19 if you're not old" crew.

Yeah not true at all. I know someone in his 30s on a vent thanks to SARS-Cov2.

[Trainwreck2100]

Looks like CC has joined the "you don't need to worry about COVID-19 if you're not old" crew.

The big contradiction behind this fucking surge is "Young people don't need to worry about getting COVID-19"

Followed by
"All these young people keep getting it, they aren't being safe"

[tholdren]

The big contradiction behind this fucking surge is "Young people don't need to worry about getting COVID-19"

Followed by
"All these young people keep getting it, they aren't being safe"

Kinda like the flu.... huh?

[ChumpDumper]

The big contradiction behind this fucking surge is "Young people don't need to worry about getting COVID-19"

Followed by
"All these young people keep getting it, they aren't being safe"Abbott May: "We gon' open the bars!"

Abbott June: "Why did people go to bars?"

[tholdren]

Abbott May: "We gon' open the bars!"

Abbott June: "Why did people go to bars?"

because Karen's complained. Its their choice

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[ChumpDumper]

because Karen's complained. Its their choice:lol no

[CosmicCowboy]

cdc using science

nope. Covid sucks. I'm seeing older people being a lot more cautious. The majority of teens and 20s I see at the lake are acting like it doesn't exist.

oops. Quoted the wrong one. Answering to wino's snrk.

[tholdren]

nope. Covid sucks. I'm seeing older people being a lot more cautious. The majority of teens and 20s I see at the lake are acting like it doesn't exist.

oops. Quoted the wrong one. Answering to wino's snrk.
Doesn't matter if 20 and less get it. That is needed

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't matter if 20 and less get it. That is needed:rollin Why don't you go out and infect yourself? That is needed.

[tholdren]

:rollin Why don't you go out and infect yourself? That is needed.

How do you know I haven't?

[ChumpDumper]

How do you know I haven't?You would have said so already.

[tholdren]

You would have said so already.

Why would I say so?

[ChumpDumper]

Why would I say so?Because you love talking about yourself.

But now you're gonna fold when I ask you:

Did you infect yourself to get COVID-19?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

The Importance of Reopening America’s Schools this Fallhttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

I am not in favor of reopening schools. We just signed our kids up for online home school and withdrew them from NEISD. If everything looks better after Christmas, we will put them back in.

The CDC also put this out

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/prepare-safe-return.html

Which basically defers to local/state agencies based on current community transmission. Almost as if the CDC made a report to give to Trump to appease him and then kept a second report to give to the schools :lol

[Blake]

because Karen's complained. Its their choice

Tholderp referring to himself as a Karen.

[pgardn]

but they are not dying. /thread

wtf is wrong with you.

We dont know the outcomes of this long term.
Continue to tap out for us Ms Cleo.

[tholdren]

Because you love talking about yourself.

But now you're gonna fold when I ask you:

Did you infect yourself to get COVID-19?

Yes or no.
Lolololololol

ChumpDumper triggered and lying. Bwagagagahahahzz

[elbamba1]

Yeah not true at all. I know someone in his 30s on a vent thanks to SARS-Cov2.

Without giving away personal details that would allow us to identify the person, would you be open to sharing some information about the individual. 1. Other than actually having COVID, what is your friend's general heath condition? Preexisting? Weight?

Do you know if your friend was practicing social distancing properly?

So someone I work with had their entire house test positive after getting back from the beach. They stayed with 2 other large but mostly young families in a rented house, went out to eat and did other activities together. Everyone caught it according to my co-worker.

[elbamba1]

The CDC also put this out

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/prepare-safe-return.html

Which basically defers to local/state agencies based on current community transmission. Almost as if the CDC made a report to give to Trump to appease him and then kept a second report to give to the schools :lol

Nice. I missed this when I was reading up yesterday.

[ChumpDumper]

Lolololololol

ChumpDumper triggered and lying. Bwagagagahahahzzf:lolldren folds

[Winehole23]

Gov. Abbott extends early voting :tu

1287832045545299969

[baseline bum]

Gov. Abbott extends early voting :tu

1287832045545299969

He still has a ridiculous voter ID requirement. My driver's license is good through next year, but because it doesn't have the star on it it ceases to be usable for voting starting in October, and I can't renew online since I renewed online last time. And there is absolutely no way I'm going to wait inside a DMV for an hour while this pandemic is raging. Shit, I wouldn't even do it back in March when we were at a much lower level of infection than now. Fortunately I can use my passport to vote, but a lot of Texans don't have a passport and aren't going to want to go renew a perfectly usable drivers license right now that's conveniently set to be ineligible for the November election.

[CosmicCowboy]

Without giving away personal details that would allow us to identify the person, would you be open to sharing some information about the individual. 1. Other than actually having COVID, what is your friend's general heath condition? Preexisting? Weight?

Do you know if your friend was practicing social distancing properly?

So someone I work with had their entire house test positive after getting back from the beach. They stayed with 2 other large but mostly young families in a rented house, went out to eat and did other activities together. Everyone caught it according to my co-worker.

Our housekeepers son in his 40's got it. No pre-existing conditions. It really fucked him up. Besides being in the hospital for two weeks and coming just short of going on a vent, there was some serious neurological stuff. He's been in rehab for over a month now learning how to walk again and talk again.

[baseline bum]

Without giving away personal details that would allow us to identify the person, would you be open to sharing some information about the individual. 1. Other than actually having COVID, what is your friend's general heath condition? Preexisting? Weight?

Do you know if your friend was practicing social distancing properly?

So someone I work with had their entire house test positive after getting back from the beach. They stayed with 2 other large but mostly young families in a rented house, went out to eat and did other activities together. Everyone caught it according to my co-worker.

I really don't want to give identifying details here other than he's not the idiot in his 30s who got it from the COVID party. Don't really know how many people in their 30s might be on vents in town.

[baseline bum]

Our housekeepers son in his 40's got it. No pre-existing conditions. It really fucked him up. Besides being in the hospital for two weeks and coming just short of going on a vent, there was some serious neurological stuff. He's been in rehab for over a month now learning how to walk again and talk again.

Crazy to hear about the neurological issues. This thing just seems to attack whatever the hell it wants to in people. Half the time I just want to nuke China for knowingly breeding this after seeing how SARS-Cov1 was born in their wet markets 17 years ago.

[Blake]

"Fourteen members of a Texas family tested positive for the novel coronavirus after some attended a small barbecue and went on to spread the illness to their relatives.


Tony Green, a Dallas resident, detailed his extended family's experience with COVID-19 in a personal essay published on Friday. The essay's publication came nearly one month after his father-in-law's mother passed away from health complications caused by the respiratory infection. Green and his father-in-law, Rafael Ceja, were both hospitalized one week earlier.

"The virus had attacked my central nervous system, and the staff stopped me from having a stroke," Green wrote in Friday's essay...

"I admit traveling deep into the conspiracy trap over COVID-19," he acknowledged. Green described himself as a gay conservative in his recent essay, and said he voted to elect President Donald Trump in 2016.

"You cannot imagine my guilt at having been a denier, carelessly shuffling through this pandemic.........."


More

https://www.newsweek.com/14-members-texas-family-contract-coronavirus-after-backyard-barbecue-1520577

[Winehole23]

He still has a ridiculous voter ID requirement. My driver's license is good through next year, but because it doesn't have the star on it it ceases to be usable for voting starting in October, and I can't renew online since I renewed online last time. And there is absolutely no way I'm going to wait inside a DMV for an hour while this pandemic is raging. Shit, I wouldn't even do it back in March when we were at a much lower level of infection than now. Fortunately I can use my passport to vote, but a lot of Texans don't have a passport and aren't going to want to go renew a perfectly usable drivers license right now that's conveniently set to be ineligible for the November election.Sorry man, that is incredibly fucked up.

[DarrinS]

I really don't want to give identifying details here other than he's not the idiot in his 30s who got it from the COVID party. Don't really know how many people in their 30s might be on vents in town.


Probably very few, unless they are obese or vitamin D deficient.

[Play Boban]

"Does not include probable fatalities" Take whatever the official Texas tally is, and double it to get the actual count. Then go from there.

Texas has far fewer people than the USA as a whole, tbqh.
I’m talking per capita

[Play Boban]

Deaths are a single data point. Prolonged, painful recovery, strokes, organ damage and permanent disability can result.
I’ve had covid three times and I have no side effects.

[DarrinS]

I’ve had covid three times and I have no side effects.

Seems highly unlikely

[hater]

I’ve had covid three times and I have no side effects.

Sure you did, nancy

[midnightpulp]

Texas and CA way under counting.

[Winehole23]

Texas and CA way under counting.Texas adjusted Monday:


After months of undercounting coronavirus deaths, Texas’ formal tally (https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-coronavirus-cases-map/) of COVID-19 fatalities grew by more than 600 on Monday after state health officials changed their method of reporting.

The revised count indicates that more than 12% of the state’s death tally was unreported by state health officials before Monday.

The Texas Department of State Health Services is now counting deaths marked on death certificates as caused by COVID-19. Previously, the state relied on local and regional public health departments to verify and report deaths.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/27/texas-coronavirus-deaths/

[Trainwreck2100]

He still has a ridiculous voter ID requirement. My driver's license is good through next year, but because it doesn't have the star on it it ceases to be usable for voting starting in October, and I can't renew online since I renewed online last time. And there is absolutely no way I'm going to wait inside a DMV for an hour while this pandemic is raging. Shit, I wouldn't even do it back in March when we were at a much lower level of infection than now. Fortunately I can use my passport to vote, but a lot of Texans don't have a passport and aren't going to want to go renew a perfectly usable drivers license right now that's conveniently set to be ineligible for the November election.

The realID deadline got pushed back to October 2021 though

[ElNono]

He still has a ridiculous voter ID requirement. My driver's license is good through next year, but because it doesn't have the star on it it ceases to be usable for voting starting in October, and I can't renew online since I renewed online last time. And there is absolutely no way I'm going to wait inside a DMV for an hour while this pandemic is raging. Shit, I wouldn't even do it back in March when we were at a much lower level of infection than now. Fortunately I can use my passport to vote, but a lot of Texans don't have a passport and aren't going to want to go renew a perfectly usable drivers license right now that's conveniently set to be ineligible for the November election.

Hopefully what this means is a lot of old people go renew their driver's licenses... teehee

[CosmicCowboy]

Hopefully what this means is a lot of old people go renew their driver's licenses... teehee

Yep...fuck it. I will just use my passport to vote. I'm not going near the fucking DMV.

[baseline bum]

The realID deadline got pushed back to October 2021 though

Huh, didn't know that. Wonder when that happened.

[elbamba1]

Our housekeepers son in his 40's got it. No pre-existing conditions. It really fucked him up. Besides being in the hospital for two weeks and coming just short of going on a vent, there was some serious neurological stuff. He's been in rehab for over a month now learning how to walk again and talk again.

My family member had to learn how to walk again and went through about 6 weeks of rehab. She is in her late 70s and was pretty unhealthy. Saw her last week and she looks almost completely healed which is the good news.

[elbamba1]

I’ve had covid three times and I have no side effects.

You ought to be on the phone with Faucci then. You seem to have special DNA.

[Play Boban]

You ought to be on the phone with Faucci then. You seem to have special DNA.
Well he doesn’t wear mask even when telling us to so he must be special dna too.

[tholdren]

Texas and CA way under counting.

They arent

[midnightpulp]

They arent

The excess death plots shows they are.

Now I hope you're wearing your mask and believing it to work, because it does.

[Blake]

They arent

You're a nobody to make that claim

[ChumpDumper]

The excess death plots shows they are. MOTORCYCLE BRISKET CHILD SUICIDES

[Winehole23]

Texas comes clean on nursing home data after trying to hide the ball for four plus months.


COVID-19 infections have exploded in Texas nursing homes this month, with 8,291 confirmed cases through Monday — four times more than the number of cases recorded in all of June, according to the state’s health agency.

More than three quarters of Texas’ 1,215 nursing homes have reported at least one coronavirus case since the beginning of the pandemic, up from just over half at the end of June.

It’s the same story in the state’s assisted living facilities, which reported 924 cases to the Texas Department of State Health Services through Monday, compared with 267 in June.



So far in July, the state has tested residents and staff members at 148 facilities, with 93 more facilities scheduled through the end of the month, Weldon said. That’s about 7% of all Texas long-term care facilities, :wtf including nursing homes and assisted-living facilities.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/28/nursing-homes-texas-coronavirus/amp/

[DarrinS]

Texas comes clean on nursing home data after trying to hide the ball for four plus months.





https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/28/nursing-homes-texas-coronavirus/amp/



They were very transparent about it in San Antonio.

[Winehole23]

They were very transparent about it in San Antonio.If true, good on the SAMHD. Texas hid the ball.

[tholdren]

The excess death plots shows they are.

Now I hope you're wearing your mask and believing it to work, because it does.

They do not. Download the data.

[Winehole23]

They do not. Download the data.Happy reading!

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2#Sec3
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342198360_Association_of_country-wide_coronavirus_mortality_with_demographics_testi ng_lockdowns_and_public_wearing_of_masks_Update_Ju ne_15_2020

anecdotal but striking:


Two compelling case reports also suggest that masks can prevent transmission in high-risk scenarios, said Chin-Hong and Rutherford. In one case,a man flew from China to Toronto (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/15/E410) and subsequently tested positive for COVID-19. He had a dry cough and wore a mask on the flight, and all 25 people closest to him on the flight tested negative for COVID-19. In another case, in late May,two hair stylists in Missouri (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/17/masks-salons-missouri/) had close contact with 140 clients while sick with COVID-19. Everyone wore a mask and none of the clients tested positive. https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

[tholdren]

Happy reading!

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2#Sec3
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342198360_Association_of_country-wide_coronavirus_mortality_with_demographics_testi ng_lockdowns_and_public_wearing_of_masks_Update_Ju ne_15_2020

anecdotal but striking:

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

This wasn't the argument. The argument was fatality count.


But


There has been no replicated study or gold standard for masks or no masks being effective against covid.

[pgardn]

This wasn't the argument. The argument was fatality count.


But


There has been no replicated study or gold standard for masks or no masks being effective against covid.

this is biology you fucking idiot.


Givel me the gold standard experiment that proved smoking causes lung cancer.

[tholdren]

this is biology you fucking idiot.


Givel me the gold standard experiment that proved smoking causes lung cancer.

beahhahaHHHahhzhhzhszhzshsshushss


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LololoIloooopplllollloloollolll

You and science and math lolololollllll

[Winehole23]

This wasn't the argument. The argument was fatality count.A couple of the linked studies address that.



But


There has been no replicated study or gold standard for masks or no masks being effective against covid.Of course there hasn't. It's a novel virus, understanding what COVID-19 does will take time.

Btw, it's false to suggest there is no research supporting the efficacy of masking to reduce the spread of respiratory diseases. There is. There are also preliminary findings suggesting that masking may reduce the severity of COVID-19 infections.

Did you bother to read the links?

[tholdren]

A couple of the studies address that.


Of course there hasn't. It's a novel virus, understanding what COVID-19 does will take time.

Btw, it's false to suggest there is no research supporting the efficacy of masking to reduce the spread of respiratory diseases. There is. There are also preliminary findings suggesting that masking may reduce the severity of COVID-19 infections.

Did you bother to read the links?
That wasn't suggesting anything other than there's no proof either way, yet some claim its science....the same people who claim science is irrefutable.... which obviously don't understand science

[pgardn]

That wasn't suggesting anything other than there's no proof either way, yet some claim its science....the same people who claim science is irrefutable.... which obviously don't understand science

Who claims science is irrefutable?

[tholdren]

Who claims science is irrefutable?
You do

[pgardn]

You do

wrong

as I have stated before, science is valuable because the method allows for correction when new evidence is found and tested thus eliminating a previous model

this has happened continuously

And it will keep happening especially with something as complex as biology which you know nothing about. You don’t even know why biology is complex.

go sit in the corner

[Winehole23]

That wasn't suggesting anything other than there's no proof either way, yet some claim its science....the same people who claim science is irrefutable.... which obviously don't understand scienceDemanding replicated experiments so soon after the discovery of a novel pathogen is preposterous, though I agree that saying that science is irrefutable (who said this?) is inconsistent with the theory of scientific research.

There's not proof in science the way there is in math or geometry, falsifiability is the criterion of the domain. (Karl Popper) Irrefutables -- unfalsifiable theories -- belong to pre-science or pseudoscience.

For someone who sets such store by science you sure are stingy with your own data set. When are you going to lay your cards on the table? There are many questions from many posters pending.