Texas response to Corona virus

[CosmicCowboy]

Kansas initially shut down churches but the Court overturned the executive order citing it as discriminatory.
Pretty much the same reason bar owners are suing Texas over the order to shut bars down.

In other words, they can be shut down due to emergency situations like this but the government has to make sure all businesses/organizations of similar nature are also shut down.

But the constitutional religious aspect differentiates them from bars. That's why they are afraid to do it.

[spurraider21]

But the constitutional religious aspect differentiates them from bars. That's why they are afraid to do it.
as long as you aren't specifically discriminating against religion, i dont think it would be an issue. so if you are banning all indoor public gatherings with more than x people, then you cant really argue that the law is discriminating against religion. there's a landmark case from oregon that goes into that. peyote was an illegal drug but people of some specific religion said peyote use was a ritual, and so the law was anti-religion. SCOTUS said that isnt the case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Division_v._Smith#:~:text=Smith%2C%2049 4%20U.S.%20872%20(1990,part%20of%20a%20religious%2 0ritual.


now perhaps if you could prove that the specific way that they banned public gatherings was meant to target religion... ie we are banning all public gatherings held in buildings with ceilings this high and with painted glass windows (or something less ridiculous than that), then you'd have a better case

texas didnt hesitate on constitutional grounds, but on pandering rounds. imo.

[CosmicCowboy]

as long as you aren't specifically discriminating against religion, i dont think it would be an issue. so if you are banning all public gatherings with more than x people, then you cant really argue that the law is discriminating against religion. there's a landmark case rom oregon that goes into that. peyote was an illegal drug but people of some specific religion said peyote use was a ritual, and so the law was anti-religion. SCOTUS said that isnt the case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Division_v._Smith#:~:text=Smith%2C%2049 4%20U.S.%20872%20(1990,part%20of%20a%20religious%2 0ritual.


now perhaps if you could prove that the specific way that they banned public gatherings was meant to target religion... ie we are banning all public gatherings held in buildings with ceilings this high and with painted glass windows (or something less ridiculous than that), then you'd have a better case

Well, let's do it. I'm all for shutting all of them down till this shit is over. Trying to do business right now is scary as hell.

[spurraider21]

Well, let's do it. I'm all for shutting all of them down till this shit is over. Trying to do business right now is scary as hell.
is texas actually closing business right now though? or is it just a mask requirement?

and even then, just have congregations gather outdoors, standing 6 feet apart, wearing masks, if you REALLY wanted an in-person gathering because you are technologically inept

[CosmicCowboy]

is texas actually closing business right now though? or is it just a mask requirement?

and even then, just have congregations gather outdoors, standing 6 feet apart, wearing masks, if you REALLY wanted an in-person gathering because you are technologically inept

Speaking for myself we are an essential business that works all over the city and south texas trying to navigate through this shit. We dont need dummies denying science getting us infected without even knowing where it came from.

[Blake]

Speaking for myself we are an essential business that works all over the city and south texas trying to navigate through this shit. We dont need dummies denying science getting us infected without even knowing where it came from.

You should be telling this to the Lt Governor and Governor.

[SnakeBoy]

Well, let's do it. I'm all for shutting all of them down till this shit is over. Trying to do business right now is scary as hell.

It's not going to be "over"

[Spurminator]

is texas actually closing business right now though? or is it just a mask requirement?


For all intents and purposes, bars are shut down. They can still sell to go for people who don't care about paying bar prices for booze.

It's fairly arbitrary. If less than 51% of your sales (preCOVID) was booze, you can stay open. If not, no dice. Regardless of whether you've changed your business model during COVID.

Lots of good places to eat are shut down because they did good bar sales from midnight to 2am. Mostly local, independently owned. Meanwhile, Applebee's is open.

[spurraider21]

You should be telling this to the Lt Governor and Governor.
im sure he has them on speed dial

[baseline bum]

It's not going to be "over"

What happened to yesterday's optimism that we're only 500k deaths from it being done? Man Snakes, every time I try to find some reason for optimism...

[tholdren]

More people die per day of cardiovascular disease in the us than from covid. Shut down McDonald's.

[TimDunkem]

^Covid is on track to be one of the leading causes of death this year. Just give it up, man.

[tholdren]

^Covid is on track to be one of the leading causes of death this year. Just give it up, man.
Lol will not top cardiovascular or cancer. Fact

[TimDunkem]

Lol will not top cardiovascular or cancer. Fact

What is your point? If it's number 3 will that make it any less serious? You keep moving the goal posts. First it was only 10k deaths, then it was no increase in positives, then it was hospitalizations flat...

And now it's "oh it won't top 2 of the historical leading causes of death worldwide".

Give it up, man.

[tholdren]

What is your point? If it's number 3 will that make it any less serious? You keep moving the goal posts. First it was only 10k deaths, then it was no increase in positives, then it was hospitalizations flat...

And now it's "oh it won't top 2 of the historical leading causes of death worldwide".

Give it up, man.
Lol 2x flu and going down. You arent good at math or logic. How's those hospitals you said were out of icu capacity weeks ago? Gossip you

[TimDunkem]

Lol 2x flu and going down. You arent good at math or logic. How's those hospitals you said were out of icu capacity weeks ago? Gossip you

I never said that they were out of capacity. I don't know why you think you can just say whatever you want when the posts are here to see. As for that capacity, they're reaching it. Methodist has a waiting list to get into the ER.

Just give it up.

[Blake]

More people die per day of cardiovascular disease in the us than from covid. Shut down McDonald's.

You can't sneeze cardiovascular disease on someone 5 feet away from you

[TimDunkem]

You can't sneeze cardiovascular disease on someone 5 feet away from you

He knows. He's a troll and obviously not a serious person.

[Blake]

He knows.

I'm not so sure

[TimDunkem]

I'm not so sure
I mean, he posts "hospitalizations flat" when there are videos literally inside these hospitals. I honestly think he's trolling.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol will not top cardiovascular or cancer. Fact

Fuck. You cant catch cancer because you walked through a cancer cloud left by the guy in the HEB aisle 2 minutes before you got there.

[Blake]

"The surge in coronavirus cases has gotten so bad in Houston that two of the city's hospitals have begun transporting patients to other cities in Texas.

Harris Health Systems, which runs Ben Taub and LBJ hospitals, over the last 24 hours has transferred 33 patients, both COVID-19 and non COVID-19 patients, to facilities in Houston and in surrounding areas, and was in the process of transferring 15 more, according to spokesman Bryan McLeod.

Some of those locations include Texas Children's Hospital, which recently admitted adult COVID-19 patients, and UTMB's Galveston hospital, which is more than 50 miles outside Houston......"

https://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-hospitals-transferring-covid-patients-running-icu-beds/story?id=71552472

[Blake]

Lol 2x flu and going down. You arent good at math or logic. How's those hospitals you said were out of icu capacity weeks ago? Gossip you



https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/qQPUPBlaiVYrsXg5QM1QQYVgH34=/0x0:900x500/1400x1400/filters:focal(378x178:522x322):format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49493993/this-is-fine.0.jpg

[Blake]

How's Georgia?

This sarcastic question aged nicely.


"ATLANTA - Another record-setting day on Thursday as confirmed coronavirus rise by nearly 3,500 in Georgia, new data shows, as Georgia's governor warns people to wear a mask for the next few months if they want college football this fall......."

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sets-another-record-with-3500-new-covid-19-cases-in-last-24-hours

[TimDunkem]

This sarcastic question aged nicely.


"ATLANTA - Another record-setting day on Thursday as confirmed coronavirus rise by nearly 3,500 in Georgia, new data shows, as Georgia's governor warns people to wear a mask for the next few months if they want college football this fall......."

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sets-another-record-with-3500-new-covid-19-cases-in-last-24-hours
Take your pick of Darrin's posts. They've all aged like milk. :lol

[tholdren]

I never said that they were out of capacity. I don't know why you think you can just say whatever you want when the posts are here to see. As for that capacity, they're reaching it. Methodist has a waiting list to get into the ER.

Just give it up.

Lol yiu and RandomGuy claimed texas was in big big trouble and would be out of icu. Lololol

WRONG

[tholdren]

I mean, he posts "hospitalizations flat" when there are videos literally inside these hospitals. I honestly think he's trolling.

Beahahah videos. Lololololol

[TimDunkem]

Lol yiu and RandomGuy claimed texas was in big big trouble and would be out of icu. Lololol

WRONG

Do you live in SA?

[SnakeBoy]

What happened to yesterday's optimism that we're only 500k deaths from it being done? Man Snakes, every time I try to find some reason for optimism...

I was referring to the idea that we shut x down until it's "over". Shut down just means it's longer to get to the optimistic scenario of only 500k deaths to go. Destination remains the same.

[tholdren]

This sarcastic question aged nicely.


"ATLANTA - Another record-setting day on Thursday as confirmed coronavirus rise by nearly 3,500 in Georgia, new data shows, as Georgia's governor warns people to wear a mask for the next few months if they want college football this fall......."

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sets-another-record-with-3500-new-covid-19-cases-in-last-24-hours
Lol hey look a case.

[picnroll]

It's not the Abbot test according their website, it's a 15 minute rapid test.

"The COVID-19 rapid test is manufactured by Quidel, the first manufacturer to receive Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on May 8 for a rapid antigen test. Named Sofia® 2 SARS Antigen FIA, the rapid point-of-care test uses a fluorescent immunoassay analyzer for the rapid detection of SARS-CoV-2 in a nasal or nasopharyngeal specimen."
The Quidel test still has a high rate of false negatives and a negative, which constitutes the majority of results, still requires confirmation by a PCR test. Again Texas Medi Clinic had available a better test and swithed to in house testing for financial reasons rather than for the benefit if patients

[SnakeBoy]

The Quidel test still has a high rate of false negatives and a negative, which constitutes the majority of results, still requires confirmation by a PCR test. Again Texas Medi Clinic had available a better test and swithed to in house testing for financial reasons rather than for the benefit if patients

Yeah I wasn't disputing that. Totally agree.

[SnakeBoy]

San Antonio available staffed beds down to 527 (13%). I think it was about 20 something percent yesterday.

[ElNono]

It's not going to be "over"

That'd be a first, and we had plenty of pandemics before. Unless by "over" you mean complete eradication, which is closer to unlikely.

[SnakeBoy]

That'd be a first, and we had plenty of pandemics before. Unless by "over" you mean complete eradication, which is closer to unlikely.

Only 4 were coronavirus and we didn't even know what a virus was when they happened.

[ElNono]

Only 4 were coronavirus and we didn't even know what a virus was when they happened.

uh? SARS and MERS were coronavirus and we did know what a virus was when they happened.

[ElNono]

wait, MERS and SARS might've not reached pandemic status, so if that's the case, I retract (and I know you're talking about the common cold).

[ElNono]

That said, to my defense, I only mentioned pandemics. And we had plenty of those with all sorts of viruses/bacteria:

Cholera, Influenza, Typhus, Smallpox, Measles, Tuberculosis, Leprosy, Malaria, Yellow fever, AIDS, etc.

So, if this one isn't "over" at some point, it would certainly be a first.

[tholdren]

San Antonio available staffed beds down to 527 (13%). I think it was about 20 something percent yesterday.
Normal

[pgardn]

Normal

wrong

staffing is also a problem, have you volunteered?

[Th'Pusher]

For all intents and purposes, bars are shut down. They can still sell to go for people who don't care about paying bar prices for booze.

It's fairly arbitrary. If less than 51% of your sales (preCOVID) was booze, you can stay open. If not, no dice. Regardless of whether you've changed your business model during COVID.

Lots of good places to eat are shut down because they did good bar sales from midnight to 2am. Mostly local, independently owned. Meanwhile, Applebee's is open.

There’s nothing like a nice thin well done sirloin smothered in A1 from Applebee’s.

[tholdren]

wrongstaffing is also a problem, have you volunteered?

What capcity do hospitals run optimally?

You are low logic

[vy65]

Per TMC, test positivity rate (one of the key metrics for judging how to (re)open) is now back down to 12%. Five days ago it was at 22%.

Can anyone make sense of this?

[boutons_deux]

SA Fri 3 Jul reports new record of c19 cases, with 6 hours left in the day

a 1,334-case increase

[tholdren]

Per TMC, test positivity rate (one of the key metrics for judging how to (re)open) is now back down to 12%. Five days ago it was at 22%.

Can anyone make sense of this?

yes. I've said it repeatedly. How you test and who you test means more than the cases. Its fraud really.

[Blake]

yes. I've said it repeatedly. How you test and who you test means more than the cases. Its fraud really.

You're a liar though

[ChumpDumper]

You're a liar thoughThis is a proven truth.

[boutons_deux]

^Covid is on track to be one of the leading causes of death this year. Just give it up, man.

It has a ways to go. smoking lung cancer kills 300K+ EVERY YEAR, but addictive, toxic tobacco is legal

[tholdren]

It has a ways to go. smoking lung cancer kills 300K+ EVERY YEAR, but addictive, toxic tobacco is legal

There are many many things that are self inflicted that are higher death risk. Yet here the media is.

[DarrinS]

Bunch of fat fucks in the ICU, from what I hear.

[tholdren]

Bunch of fat fucks in the ICU, from what I hear.

Meh just hospitals running as hospitals normally do. Just k one bothered to report on hospitsl capacity until now. And they don't understand hospitals are for profit. Nor can they understand the concept of furloughs

[Blake]

"......Dr. Jeffrey DellaVolpe, a pulmonologist and the director of the ECMO program at San Antonio Methodist Hospital told CNN that this explosion of cases is not something he and other healthcare professionals were at all prepared for.

"Yesterday was probably the worst day I ever had," DellaVolpe said. "I got 10 calls. Young people who would otherwise be excellent candidates to be able to put on ECMO."

ECMO (Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation), is a therapy that adds oxygen to one's blood and pumps it through their body.

"They're so sick that if they don't get put on, if they don't get the support, they are going to die," DellaVolpe explained.

The problem is, DellaVolpe explained that he only had three beds available in the unit of the hospital that provides ECMO......"

https://people.com/health/texas-doctor-forced-to-choose-which-covid-19-patients-get-beds/

[Blake]

"........Dr. Jennifer Gemmill, the hospital's medical director in the physician emergency department, said that the hospital is so full that "we are holding a lot of them in the emergency department."

"Some for hours, some for days," she told CNN......"

[Blake]

"....for ECMO, Methodist Hospital is using this method to keep patients off ventilators. "I think the ventilator really causes a lot of harm. It causes harm in general but certainly causes harm when we're talking about patients with COVID," DellaVolpe said.

"You're artificially pushing more air into your lungs and causing more damage that way," he added......


I think that's the first time I've seen a doctor say ventilators are really bad to use on covid patients

[midnightpulp]

^all deep state agents and crisis actors lying about the situation in order to hurt Trump.

[ChumpDumper]

"....for ECMO, Methodist Hospital is using this method to keep patients off ventilators. "I think the ventilator really causes a lot of harm. It causes harm in general but certainly causes harm when we're talking about patients with COVID," DellaVolpe said.

"You're artificially pushing more air into your lungs and causing more damage that way," he added......


I think that's the first time I've seen a doctor say ventilators are really bad to use on covid patientsI think it's been a last resort for some time now. That's why demand for ventilators wasn't sustained.

[TimDunkem]

Rio Grande Valley hospitals reach capacity ahead of July 4th weekend, officials say
"Residents are urged to shelter-in-place and only call 9-1-1 if absolutely necessary"

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/07/04/rio-grande-valley-hospitals-reach-capacity-ahead-of-july-4th-weekend-officials-say/

[pgardn]

Meh just hospitals running as hospitals normally do. Just k one bothered to report on hospitsl capacity until now. And they don't understand hospitals are for profit. Nor can they understand the concept of furloughs

gossip

[tholdren]

gossip

sweet ChumpDumper alt copying me and then telling me he's not copying me. And exclaiming not triggered.

Must be exhausting to flip flop and in continual crisis / cog dis

[boutons_deux]

Texas Landlords Are Filing Hundreds of Illegal Evictions

As courts reopen in Harris County, tenants may be removed from their homes as COVID-19 cases skyrocket, despite CARES Act protections that guarantee shelter.

In late April, the landlord at 2929 Dunvale Apartments—a garden-style apartment complex in Midwest Houston with one-bedroom apartments starting at $700 a month—filed to evict six tenants.

A month later, seven tenants at Concord at Little York, a three-story complex tucked behind I-45 (https://www.texasobserver.org/more-highways-more-problems/) in North Houston, were hit with eviction filings.

Between May 26 and June 17, the property manager at Inwood Grove, a tree-studded property in northwest Houston, filed to evict 17 households.

All of these cases appear to be in violation of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security

(CARES) Act, which prohibits landlords from filing for eviction at properties that benefit from federal subsidies until July 25.

of the 3,652 evictions filed in Harris County between March 27 and June 22, at least 368 of those—about 10 percent—appear to be filed in violation of the CARES Act.

the eviction moratorium covered 12.3 million of the 43.8 million rental units in the United States—

in May, the Texas Supreme Court acknowledged (https://www.statesman.com/news/20200515/texas-supreme-court-ends--coronavirus-protections-against-evictions-debt-collections) that a third of Texas renters could be covered.

tenants may be removed from their homes despite the legal protections that guarantee shelter as COVID-19 cases skyrocket.

On May 14, the Texas Supreme Court ended its statewide eviction moratorium by allowing courts to hear new cases starting May 19.

“All you need is one voucher tenant in a complex to make everyone [who lives there] eligible for CARES Act protection.”

Large corporate landlords have also moved to evict tenants in clear violation of CARES Act protections,

“These are not small mom-and-pop landlords, these are gigantic—in some cases multi-billion-dollar—companies that have decided for some reason that the federal law doesn’t apply to them,”

“The law is clear that it prohibits not just actual eviction,

removing someone from their home,

but also the threat of eviction,”

Even if a case is dismissed, eviction filings often remain on a tenant’s record, making it

significantly harder to find housing in the future.

“That is one of the big injuries that this can cause for people—if you’ve been sued for eviction,

even if the case was dismissed, that can often have really dramatic effects on your ability to rent somewhere else,”

“A lot of housing providers would just automatically deny anybody who’s been sued for eviction, no matter what the circumstances are,”

judges aren’t empowered to investigate whether or not a property is covered by the CARES Act.

“If someone completes an affidavit and no one challenges it, we sort of have to take it,”

https://www.texasobserver.org/evictions-texas-illegal/?utm_source=mc&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=july_2_2020&goal=0_975e2d1fa1-29978a292c-34733575&mc_cid=29978a292c&mc_eid=b9077e7e26

Will the Repugs do anything? Texas is worse off now than it was in March-April.





https://www.texasobserver.org/evictions-texas-illegal/?utm_source=mc&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=july_2_2020&goal=0_975e2d1fa1-29978a292c-34733575&mc_cid=29978a292c&mc_eid=b9077e7e26

[tholdren]

Rio Grande Valley hospitals reach capacity ahead of July 4th weekend, officials say
"Residents are urged to shelter-in-place and only call 9-1-1 if absolutely necessary"

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/07/04/rio-grande-valley-hospitals-reach-capacity-ahead-of-july-4th-weekend-officials-say/
Lol only call 911 if necessary. You needed this news when you had your covid crisis. You know when you lied about having covid.

[pgardn]

sweet ChumpDumper alt copying me and then telling me he's not copying me. And exclaiming not triggered.

Must be exhausting to flip flop and in continual crisis / cog dis

You have had a hand shoved down your throat and your lungs ripped out, and you still cant shut up.
You have been hopelessly wrong this entire time and still dont get it.

[tholdren]

You have had a hand shoved down your throat and your lungs ripped out, and you still cant shut up.
You have been hopelessly wrong this entire time and still dont get it.
Nope. Ifr. I've been right the whole time, you dont even understand math or logic.

Ps lockdowbs dont work

[LkrFan]

Texas is top 5 in the country
https://twitter.com/IsIn2020/status/1279441030035750913?s=19

SMH

[tholdren]

Texas is top 5 in the country
https://twitter.com/IsIn2020/status/1279441030035750913?s=19

SMH

florida 2nd yet their data shows ifr less than flu. Get that positivity up. Texas lass than flu too. And ironically arizona too. Wowowoow

All these positivity rates making covid exponentially less dangerous. Great news!

[LkrFan]

florida 2nd yet their data shows ifr less than flu. Get that positivity up. Texas lass than flu too. And ironically arizona too. Wowowoow

All these positivity rates making covid exponentially less dangerous. Great news!

:lol

[tholdren]

The latest data show that the percentage of deaths in the country attributable to those factors had as of the last week in June reached its lowest point since the end of last year, becoming "equal to the [current] epidemic threshold of 5.9%," the CDC said.

The agency notes that the official tally of deaths "will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks." Yet the number of deaths attributable to COVID-19, pneumonia and influenza have been declining for 10 straight weeks, the agency said on its website, suggesting COVID-19 may cease to qualify as an epidemic in the next few weeks

[Blake]

Tholderp gossiping now

[Blake]

"Texas reported 8,258 new coronavirus cases on Saturday, setting a record for the second time this week and bringing its total number of cases to 191,790.

The state also reported 33 additional deaths linked to COVID-19, bringing its death toll to 2,608.

Texas has also reported a rise in hospitalizations, with 7,890 people in hospitals for COVID-19-related ailments, an increase of 238 from Friday.

Hospitals in at least two Texas counties said they are at full capacity on Saturday as the state continues to see an alarming spike in coronavirus cases...."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505889-texas-hits-new-record-of-coronavirus-cases

[tholdren]

Tholderp gossiping now
Nope just reposting from cdc

[tholdren]

hospitals not overwhelmed. Proven every 2 weeks this year

[boutons_deux]

Texas Mayors Hit Back At Trump’s Claim That 99% Of COVID-19 Cases Are ‘Harmless’

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner

When asked whether the President’s baseless claim that 99% of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless” holds up in Houston, Turner told CBS News’ Margaret Brennan that “no, that’s not the case.”

Austin Mayor Steve Adler

Pressed on Trump’s false claim that 99% of coronavirus cases are “completely harmless” during an interview on CNN, Adler said that the President’s remark “makes me angry” and that it’s “dangerous not to be sending a clear message to Americans.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/houston-austin-texas-mayors-respond-trump-coronavirus-harmless-claim (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/houston-austin-texas-mayors-respond-trump-coronavirus-harmless-claim)

[boutons_deux]

How Trump’s Failures Turned Dallas Into A Virus Hotspot

Trump not only failed to channel existing stimulus funds to hard-hit areas like Dallas but also refused to use his clout to push an acceptable local government aid package through Congress.

Trump's reckless conduct allowed Dallas—along with large swaths of the South and West (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/30/coronavirus-live-updates-us/)—to become the COVID-19 hotspots they are right now.

Face masks (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html) and social distancing (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html) play critical roles in controlling the spread of COVID-19.

But many people across the country, including some in Texas, refused to follow those guidelines.

Now, they're paying the price with soaring infection rates.

"This is a part of the country where it's warm, it's hot, and it's uncomfortable to wear a mask," Luckhardt explained. "And people don't like mandates."

Trump could have made a difference.

Trump emboldened mask opponents by refusing to wear one himself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-leaders-now-say-everyone-should-wear-a-mask--even-as-trump-refuses-and-mocks-those-who-do/2020/06/30/995a32d0-bae9-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html).

He even ridiculed people (https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/politics/joe-biden-cnn-interview-trump-face-masks/index.html) for putting them on.

"I think that significantly helped politicize things to the point where you were macho if you didn't wear one,"

Trump's mass gatherings (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/12/cdc-warns-large-gatherings-315521)—like his campaign rallies in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Phoenix in June—signal that

it's all right for Americans to assemble for parties and other events even though the virus spreads swiftly through large groups.

https://www.nationalmemo.com/how-trumps-failures-turned-dallas-into-a-virus-hotspot

[boutons_deux]

County Republican Party votes to censure Texas governor Greg Abbott over failed response to coronavirus

The party executive committee in Ector County, home to Odessa, passed the censure resolution 10-1

accuses Abbott of violating five party principles

related to his exercise of executive power during the pandemic.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/county-republican-party-votes-to-censure-texas-governor-greg-abbott-over-failed-response-to-coronavirus/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/county-republican-party-votes-to-censure-texas-governor-greg-abbott-over-failed-response-to-coronavirus/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[tholdren]

Texas Mayors Hit Back At Trump’s Claim That 99% Of COVID-19 Cases Are ‘Harmless’

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner

When asked whether the President’s baseless claim that 99% of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless” holds up in Houston, Turner told CBS News’ Margaret Brennan that “no, that’s not the case.”

Austin Mayor Steve Adler

Pressed on Trump’s false claim that 99% of coronavirus cases are “completely harmless” during an interview on CNN, Adler said that the President’s remark “makes me angry” and that it’s “dangerous not to be sending a clear message to Americans.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/houston-austin-texas-mayors-respond-trump-coronavirus-harmless-claim (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/houston-austin-texas-mayors-respond-trump-coronavirus-harmless-claim)

yes as of right now 98 pct harmless

[ChumpDumper]

yes as of right now 98 pct harmlessShow your math.

[Spurtacular]

yes as of right now 98 pct harmless

99.999999999 tbh

[ChumpDumper]

99.999999999 tbhShow your math.

[tholdren]

Show your math.

Chumpdump copying and deflection. I asked you this. Months ago. And asked you again today. Here you are copying me.

F5 flattery

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump copying and deflection. I asked you this. Months ago. And asked you again today. Here you are copying me.

F5 flatteryYou never showed your math.

You never will show your math.

All your claims are false and you won't prove any of them.

f:lolldren

[pgardn]

yes as of right now 98 pct harmless

Yes.

This is what people say after getting out of the ICU.

[tholdren]

Yes.

This is what people say after getting out of the ICU.

lol wrong

[ChumpDumper]

f:lolldren too punch drunk to recognize sarcasm.

Sad.

[Spurtacular]

Show your math.

You've already been shown in many instances how the numbers are bull shit.

Put your big boy pants on, cherp. Stop crying.

[ChumpDumper]

You've already been shown in many instances how the numbers are bull shit.

Put your big boy pants on, cherp. Stop crying.You folded already, derp.

No one else is going to bail you out.

[Spurtacular]

You folded already, derp.

No one else is going to bail you out.

You been told. Stop kibitzing.

[pgardn]

lol wrong

You had your stupidity Whata-sized?
How much extra did that cost?

[ChumpDumper]

You been told.Been told what? All you do is cry and post fake news.

[Spurtacular]

Been told what?

To put your big boy pants on.

LOL cherp

[ChumpDumper]

To put your big boy pants on.I'm already acting like an adult.

You're the one whining about a piece of cloth and you don't even know why.

[Spurtacular]

I'm already acting like an adult.

You're the one whining about a piece of cloth and you don't even know why.

No, you're wearing your baby bib on your face. :lol

I don't agree with taking away peoples' freedoms and liberties for a hoax.

[ChumpDumper]

No, you're wearing your baby bib on your face. :lol

I don't agree with taking away peoples' freedoms and liberties for a hoax.It's a piece of cloth.

Why are you afraid of a piece of cloth?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

It's a piece of cloth.

Why are you afraid of a piece of cloth?

Explain.

You should wear a face diaper for the rest of your life.

If you don't, you don't care about saving lives.

[ChumpDumper]

You should wear a face diaper for the rest of your life.

If you don't, you don't care about saving lives.Why are you afraid of a piece of cloth?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

Why are you afraid of a piece of cloth?

Explain.

Will you be wearing a face diaper for the rest of your life, or do you not care who you kill?

[ChumpDumper]

Will you be wearing a face diaper for the rest of your life, or do you not care who you kill?derp folds

[Spurtacular]

derp folds

Will you be wearing a face diaper for the rest of your life, or do you not care who you kill?

[ChumpDumper]

Will you be wearing a face diaper for the rest of your life?No, this is temporary.

Which makes your fear even more ridiculous.

What are you afraid of?

[Spurtacular]

No, this is temporary.

Which makes your fear even more ridiculous.

What are you afraid of?

Wow, you're only willing to save lives if someone's giving you a pat on the back.

After this, back to killing people for you. :lol

[boutons_deux]

‘Kill ’em’:

Texas GOP powerbroker Steve Hotze left governor a voicemail demanding Guard ‘shoot to kill’ protesters

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Steve-Hotze-photo-via-Texas-Tribune-and-social-media.jpg


“I want you to give a message to the governor,” Hotze told Abbott’s chief of staff, Luis Saenz, in a voicemail (https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/d27eef7af27131d16b69d5ad2b6fe4fb/hotzevoicemail.m4a?_ga=2.52379370.277276695.159398 7751-1486000239.1593987750).

“I want to make sure that he has National Guard down here and

they have the order to shoot to kill

if any of these son-of-a-bitch people start rioting like they have in Dallas,

start tearing down businesses —

shoot to kill the son of a bitches.

That’s the only way you restore order.

Kill ’em.

Thank you.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/kill-em-texas-gop-powerbroker-steve-hotze-left-governor-a-voicemail-demanding-guard-shoot-to-kill-protesters/

[ChumpDumper]

Wow, you're only willing to save lives if someone's giving you a pat on the back.

After this, back to killing people for you. :lolSo you wear a mask now?

[Spurtacular]

***

[ChumpDumper]

Will you be wearing a face diaper for the rest of your life, or do you not care who you kill?derp, you already asked this a few minutes ago and I already answered.

Is something wrong with you?

[Spurtacular]

derp, you already asked this a few minutes ago and I already answered.

Is something wrong with you?

:lol F5 masher

[ChumpDumper]

:lol F5 masherDid you forget asking the same exact question?

Is something wrong with your brain?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/calvinwatkins/status/1279987710741094401?s=19

[DMC]

If you cannot wear a mask because of a medical condition, you'd probably be best to not be out.

[Death In June]

There is no medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask.

[Blake]

Nope just reposting from cdc

So it's only gossip when others repost it

[slick'81]

There is no medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask.

possibly someone on oxygen but wth would they be out and about?

[Blake]

possibly someone on oxygen but wth would they be out and about?

Wear an oxygen mask

[slick'81]

Lol georgia stopping the open testing and going back to an appointment only system.Tired of setting records everyday so lets slow the testing down and get those numbers down:lol gotta love america

[CosmicCowboy]

I think it's been a last resort for some time now. That's why demand for ventilators wasn't sustained.

Is Ford still cranking out ventilators?

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol georgia stopping the open testing and going back to an appointment only system.Tired of setting records everyday so lets slow the testing down and get those numbers down:lol gotta love america

As far as I could tell when trying to get an employee tested, San Antonio is on an appointment system. I know Texas Med Clinic and Bexar County were.

[RandomGuy]

There is no medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask.

Stupidity? :lol

[RandomGuy]

Lol georgia stopping the open testing and going back to an appointment only system.Tired of setting records everyday so lets slow the testing down and get those numbers down:lol gotta love america

They probably just got swamped. But you never know. If it is by appointment only their positive rate number is going to go up a lot.

[TimDunkem]

SA lost it's first person under 20 and 8 people in total yesterday. Death rate will continue to rise as the 25 day lag passes.

[boutons_deux]

Nirenberg says stay-at-home may be next

[RandomGuy]

No, you're wearing your baby bib on your face. :lol

I don't agree with taking away peoples' freedoms and liberties for a hoax.

Muh freedumb.

Wow, so this is still a hoax to you. You trying to out stupid th:loldren at this point.

I guess Governor Abbott is trying to take away your freedumb now?

[RandomGuy]

SA lost it's first person under 20 and 8 people in total yesterday. Death rate will continue to rise as the 25 day lag passes.

Pretty much. This spread among younger people who stopped really taking it seriously, and socializing, and the next wave will hit older populations. It is like Sweden, only dumber.

[TimDunkem]

Pretty much. This spread among younger people who stopped really taking it seriously, and socializing, and the next wave will hit older populations. It is like Sweden, only dumber.

And people here are still counting the low deaths day to day thinking it's over not realizing everything is lining up perfectly with the 25 day lag time. They're in for a rude surprise.

[Spurtacular]

Muh freedumb.

Wow, so this is still a hoax to you. You trying to out stupid th:loldren at this point.

I guess Governor Abbott is trying to take away your freedumb now?

Do you know how fallible the tests are?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Armor of God1278889306732593153

[RandomGuy]

Do you know how fallible the tests are?

(shrugs)

Some are some aren't. why don't you tell me all about it as you see it.

[Spurtacular]

(shrugs)

Some are some aren't. why don't you tell me all about it as you see it.

It's not a shrug.

Someone with the common cold gets counted as being COVID positive.

The numbers are wrong AF.

[TimDunkem]

^No they don't.

[TSA]

"$ Please let us do elective surgeries again, governor. We promise to give you whatever numbers you want to hear $"

In many cases, experts said, patients suffered through cardiac events, strokes, hyperglycemia and other health difficulties at home, likely fearful of seeking care in hospitals where large numbers of people suffering from covid-19 were receiving treatment.

Between March 15 and May 23, visits to hospital emergency departments declined 23 percent for heart attacks, 20 percent for strokes and 10 percent for high-blood-sugar crises — a complication of diabetes — when compared with the previous 10 weeks, according to a report last month from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “The striking decline in ED visits for acute life-threatening conditions might partially explain observed excess mortality not associated with COVID-19,” the researchers wrote.

And in a separate excess deaths analysis, the CDC estimated that since Feb. 1, between about 20,000 and 49,000 more people have died of all non-covid-19 causes than would be expected in a typical year.

On Wednesday, an article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association bolstered the findings from the Post and CDC analyses. The paper looked at excess deaths nationwide in March and April and found that 35 percent were attributed to causes other than covid-19. The researchers, led by a team at Virginia Commonwealth University, concluded that those deaths may include unreported, “nonrespiratory manifestations” of the virus, or they could represent “secondary pandemic mortality caused by disruptions in society that diminished or delayed access to health care.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/investigations/coronavirus-excess-deaths-heart/



https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/368/6497/1290/F1.large.jpg

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6497/1290

[pgardn]

Another friend is SA felt bad and got it, tested, +.
Her husband feels bad and is not even going into get tested as he has all the symptoms and is in bed.

This is pure shit. These people were being extraordinarily careful.
The dude is ex air force and is freak about organization and keeps lists of who he had seen.

this one is worse for me personally as they really dont have a clue how they got it.
All the others I personally know had really clear contacts.

But gossip... so fear not ST.

[TimDunkem]

In many cases, experts said, patients suffered through cardiac events, strokes, hyperglycemia and other health difficulties at home, likely fearful of seeking care in hospitals where large numbers of people suffering from covid-19 were receiving treatment.

Between March 15 and May 23, visits to hospital emergency departments declined 23 percent for heart attacks, 20 percent for strokes and 10 percent for high-blood-sugar crises — a complication of diabetes — when compared with the previous 10 weeks, according to a report last month from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “The striking decline in ED visits for acute life-threatening conditions might partially explain observed excess mortality not associated with COVID-19,” the researchers wrote.

And in a separate excess deaths analysis, the CDC estimated that since Feb. 1, between about 20,000 and 49,000 more people have died of all non-covid-19 causes than would be expected in a typical year.

On Wednesday, an article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association bolstered the findings from the Post and CDC analyses. The paper looked at excess deaths nationwide in March and April and found that 35 percent were attributed to causes other than covid-19. The researchers, led by a team at Virginia Commonwealth University, concluded that those deaths may include unreported, “nonrespiratory manifestations” of the virus, or they could represent “secondary pandemic mortality caused by disruptions in society that diminished or delayed access to health care.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/investigations/coronavirus-excess-deaths-heart/



https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/368/6497/1290/F1.large.jpg

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6497/1290

^ O rly? It's almost like you shouldn't listen to right wingers and push BS conspiracies and misinformation which lead to the Balous Millers of the world convincing Governers to open up too soon, so your health care system isn't inevitably overwhelmed, unnecessary deaths don't happen, and you don't have to keep starting and stopping the economy.

[TSA]

^ O rly? It's almost like you shouldn't listen to right wingers and push BS conspiracies and misinformation which lead to the Balous Millers of the world convincing Governers to open up too soon, so your health care system isn't inevitably overwhelmed, unnecessary deaths don't happen, and you don't have to keep starting and stopping the economy.

You should have read both articles before commenting, it's clear from your comment you didn't.

[TimDunkem]

You should have read both articles before commenting, it's clear from your comment you didn't.

You should've read the unnecessary deaths part and made the connection.

[Blake]

:lol Armor of God1278889306732593153

:lol WE AIN'T WEARING NO GODDAM MASK. WE GOTS JESUS ARMER

[TSA]

You should've read the unnecessary deaths part and made the connection.

The articles don't make the connection you are trying to make.

[Blake]

The articles don't make the connection you are trying to make.

What's the connection you've made

[TimDunkem]

What's the connection you've made

That's what I keep asking myself. He never makes any connections unless they're random tweets feeding into his confirmation bias, and even less often is he making an original point of his own. :lol

[picnroll]

It's not a shrug.

Someone with the common cold gets counted as being COVID positive.

The numbers are wrong AF.

Problem is false negatives not false positive numbnuts.

[TSA]

What's the connection you've made

That you were wrong in thinking hospital CEO's only wanted to open elective surgeries back up for money while 10s of thousands are dying because of missed elective surgeries and treatments.

[boutons_deux]

"10s of thousands are dying because of missed elective surgeries and treatments."

link? 10Ks?

issues treated with elective surgeries are mortally dangerous?

[Blake]

That you were wrong in thinking hospital CEO's only wanted to open elective surgeries back up for money while 10s of thousands are dying because of missed elective surgeries and treatments.

That word makes you either disingenuous or illiterate in regards to the posts of mine you're referring to.

[RandomGuy]

As far as I could tell when trying to get an employee tested, San Antonio is on an appointment system. I know Texas Med Clinic and Bexar County were.

I wonder what would happen if you cut funding for test sites and closed a bunch of them...

The free drive though one in Hays appears to have been one of the ones that got the axe.

[Xevious]

It's not a shrug.

Someone with the common cold gets counted as being COVID positive.

The numbers are wrong AF.
That isn't correct. COVID tests are accurate for positive results, but still have some false negatives.

As for the common cold Corona being counted as COVID... no, that's a different viral test altogether.

[RandomGuy]

It's not a shrug.

Someone with the common cold gets counted as being COVID positive.

The numbers are wrong AF.

Link to scientific evidence to back this up? Better numbers?

[Blake]

Link to scientific evidence to back this up? Better numbers?

:lmao you're asking derp for evidence to his claims :lmao

[RandomGuy]

In many cases, experts said, patients suffered through cardiac events, strokes, hyperglycemia and other health difficulties at home, likely fearful of seeking care in hospitals where large numbers of people suffering from covid-19 were receiving treatment.

Between March 15 and May 23, visits to hospital emergency departments declined 23 percent for heart attacks, 20 percent for strokes and 10 percent for high-blood-sugar crises — a complication of diabetes — when compared with the previous 10 weeks, according to a report last month from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “The striking decline in ED visits for acute life-threatening conditions might partially explain observed excess mortality not associated with COVID-19,” the researchers wrote.

And in a separate excess deaths analysis, the CDC estimated that since Feb. 1, between about 20,000 and 49,000 more people have died of all non-covid-19 causes than would be expected in a typical year.

On Wednesday, an article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association bolstered the findings from the Post and CDC analyses. The paper looked at excess deaths nationwide in March and April and found that 35 percent were attributed to causes other than covid-19. The researchers, led by a team at Virginia Commonwealth University, concluded that those deaths may include unreported, “nonrespiratory manifestations” of the virus, or they could represent “secondary pandemic mortality caused by disruptions in society that diminished or delayed access to health care.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/investigations/coronavirus-excess-deaths-heart/



https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/368/6497/1290/F1.large.jpg

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6497/1290

Probably a mix of both. We have seen this thing go after all sorts of things outside the respiratory system.

... and in the end, the root cause is still the virus. Absent the disease, those people would be alive. We are on track to see what happens when you overwhelm the healthcare system, the worst case scenario, I wrote about months ago when teh AHA released their estimates.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao you're asking derp for evidence to his claims :lmao

I am. The futile kabuki dance of the forum. One thing Spurtacular does not do is try to support anything, just like DMC works very hard not to take positions.

[RandomGuy]

That's what I keep asking myself. He never makes any connections unless they're random tweets feeding into his confirmation bias, and even less often is he making an original point of his own. :lol

Even I can't stand that randomness.

[pgardn]

That you were wrong in thinking hospital CEO's only wanted to open elective surgeries back up for money while 10s of thousands are dying because of missed elective surgeries and treatments.

link

why were they called "elective"?

[RandomGuy]

And people here are still counting the low deaths day to day thinking it's over not realizing everything is lining up perfectly with the 25 day lag time. They're in for a rude surprise.

Eyup. It will be entirely predictable, except to the morons calling it a "hoax". Whatever the ultimate death rate actually is you can't double the number of infections and not see an uptick in the number of fatalities, barring some miracle cure.

The rate has been low for a couple of reasons, but as the next waves ripple outward, I would think that the median age will creep up. The people most at risk are the ones getting sick, but they will not limit the spread to people in their age group. They will be packing groceries and doing things that will take them into contact with older folks.

Trump pushing against masks and preventive behavior... will not be looked on kindly by history.

[TimDunkem]

Eyup. It will be entirely predictable, except to the morons calling it a "hoax". Whatever the ultimate death rate actually is you can't double the number of infections and not see an uptick in the number of fatalities, barring some miracle cure.

The rate has been low for a couple of reasons, but as the next waves ripple outward, I would think that the median age will creep up. The people most at risk are the ones getting sick, but they will not limit the spread to people in their age group. They will be packing groceries and doing things that will take them into contact with older folks.

Trump pushing against masks and preventive behavior... will not be looked on kindly by history.

It's almost a perfect storm and, still, all the constant minimizing and spreading of misinformation is troubling me. All that serves is to lengthen this crisis if a third of people don't wear masks, deny science, and constantly feed on or spread BS.

I wonder how we don't only go down from here, especially with flu season in a few months.

[RandomGuy]

It's almost a perfect storm and, still, all the constant minimizing and spreading of misinformation is troubling me. All that serves is to lengthen this crisis if a third of people don't wear masks, deny science, and constantly feed on or spread BS.

I wonder how we don't only go down from here, especially with flu season in a few months.

Ish. Well, the flu season will be somewhat mitigated by the fact that people will be taking precautions they might not have otherwise. Hooray for people washing their hands more.

That said, when both spike at the same time, yikes.

[RandomGuy]

Texas GOP Moves Ahead With Plans For An In-Person Convention

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-gop-moves-ahead-with-plans-for-an-in-person-convention/


Yay.

[Dirks_Finale]

My friend's uncle got it...found out he was positive on Friday and dead by Sunday. He was in decent shape...mid 50's.

I think people forget that the eyes are another gateway for the virus. Wear glasses or something when you go into crowded stores, etc. Not 100% protection but offers some sort of shield.


Another friend is SA felt bad and got it, tested, +.
Her husband feels bad and is not even going into get tested as he has all the symptoms and is in bed.

This is pure shit. These people were being extraordinarily careful.
The dude is ex air force and is freak about organization and keeps lists of who he had seen.

this one is worse for me personally as they really dont have a clue how they got it.
All the others I personally know had really clear contacts.

But gossip... so fear not ST.

[RandomGuy]

My friend's uncle got it...found out he was positive on Friday and dead by Sunday. He was in decent shape...mid 50's.

I think people forget that the eyes are another gateway for the virus. Wear glasses or something when you go into crowded stores, etc. Not 100% protection but offers some sort of shield.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aao.org%2Fimage.axd%3Fid%3D6e 4d4498-63ab-4b2f-a664-27da95164ae9%26t%3D636397849109870000&f=1&nofb=1

Your eyes drain into your sinuses. Virus in fluid there... drains where it needs to go.

[RandomGuy]

My friend's uncle got it...found out he was positive on Friday and dead by Sunday. He was in decent shape...mid 50's.

I think people forget that the eyes are another gateway for the virus. Wear glasses or something when you go into crowded stores, etc. Not 100% protection but offers some sort of shield.

Sorry to hear, FWIW.

Still people denying the danger, as if it is non-existant.

[RandomGuy]

99.999999999 tbh

99.34% harmless.

Until the hospitals get overwhelmed.

[boutons_deux]

Harmless? Case Fatality Rate

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&cfrMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=USA~CAN~DNK~FRA~ITA~NOR~ESP~BEL~FIN~DEU~JP N~KOR&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[RandomGuy]

Our hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed. It's not difficult.

Number of Texans hospitalized with coronavirus more than doubles in two weeks to nearly 8,700 people
https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-coronavirus-cases-map/

You will note that the rate of hospitalization has remained steady of about ten percent of known cases.

All sorts of data there.

The graphs on total beds don't really tell the whole story, since not all "beds" are really helpful, as noted before. The colored graph showing the strains on the ICU capacity show the biggest dangers.

I told you then we were on track for that, caseload doubled, and I see it doubling again in about two weeks, if that is how long it took, as there are enough observations of people not really changing their behaviors. This week will be bad, and at some point after that will be the nightmare scenario. Houston and SA will be hit first, followed by Dallas shortly thereafter.

Entirely predictable. Entirely avoidable. Entirely the fault of the Republicans, who have minimized the danger at every turn, and pushed for re-opening. Things like this have a certain momentum, and we have to wait to see any mitigation efforts take effect. We will have been a bit too late.

[RandomGuy]

Galveston county is the only county in Texas where covid patients exceeded 10% of hospital bed capacity.

Average across the state is 6.3%

16% now.
https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-coronavirus-cases-map/

Double the case number... at the same hospitalization rate.. you have 32% in two weeks.

76% full now... add 16% to that... 92%. Factor in the fact that not all "beds" are created equal, and not all beds will be available to a patient that needs it, i.e. a bed in Dallas doesn't help someone who is struggling to breathe in San Antonio.

Two weeks.

[RandomGuy]

[just in case I need to make my point again-rg]

https://blog.chocchildrens.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/NICU-expansion.jpg
(NICU "hospital bed")



and this "hospital bed":

https://www.scottishintensivecare.org.uk/uploads/2014-03-22-17-34-35-patientinanICUbed2jpg-97449.jpg
(ICU)




and these "hospital beds"
https://www.deangelisdiamond.com/media/1513/ten-broeck-wesley3.jpg
(psychiatric from an actual psych hospital in SA)


Only one of those is going to help someone whose lungs stop functioning, those are the beds you need to count and pay attention to...

[Blake]

Texas GOP Moves Ahead With Plans For An In-Person Convention

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-gop-moves-ahead-with-plans-for-an-in-person-convention/


Yay.

I wouldn't be unhappy to see Herman Cain show up and spray hello

[RandomGuy]

It's amusing how far left socially accepted mass gatherings are bypassed by nature and yet simple bar gatherings aren't.

Its sad how the far right can't tell the difference between expressing outrage over a senseless murder, and wanting to jibber jabber with friends over a beer.

murder = moral equivalent of talking with friends over a beer.

That is how dumb you sound here.

[RandomGuy]

I wouldn't be unhappy to see Herman Cain show up and spray hello

(almost spit takes his beer)

[tholdren]

99.34% harmless.

Until the hospitals get overwhelmed.

Lol wrongdomGuy.

Furloughs are fine. This way only coivd patients can been seen.

Also wrongdomGuy
When the hospitals get overwhelmed then only covid patients will be seen and thats a problem.


This guy and his anti logic.

[Spurtacular]

Problem is false negatives not false positive numbnuts.

:lol Fake News

TheGreatYacht

[Spurtacular]

It's not a shrug.

Someone with the common cold gets counted as being COVID positive.

The numbers are wrong AF.


That isn't correct. COVID tests are accurate for positive results, but still have some false negatives.

As for the common cold Corona being counted as COVID... no, that's a different viral test altogether.
TheGreatYacht

These gimp chumpettes just pretend they lack basic comprehension and then spout their mindless propaganda.

[Spurtacular]

Link to scientific evidence to back this up? Better numbers?

It's on the CDC website. Do you understand now how the numbers are bull shit?
Or you gonna keep burying your head up your ass.

[Blake]

It's on the CDC website. Do you understand now how the numbers are bull shit?
Or you gonna keep burying your head up your ass.

The tholdren method

[Spurtacular]

99.34% harmless.

Until the hospitals get overwhelmed.

Selling points. :lol

[Xevious]

TheGreatYacht

These gimp chumpettes just pretend they lack basic comprehension and then spout their mindless propaganda.
Where is your proof that common colds get counted in COVID numbers?

[Spurtacular]

Where is your proof that common colds get counted in COVID numbers?

Oh, you can read now?

It's on the CDC website.

These people don't give a sh** about the holes in their narrative.

They can count on the moron populous to soak it all up.

[Blake]

It's on the CDC website.



Tholderp doubling down on his fold

[Spurtacular]

Tholderp doubling down on his fold

Its been shown to your fellow chumpettes. You guys aren't budging on your scam.
Don't act up btw, board cuckold

[Blake]

Its been shown to your fellow chumpettes.

No it hasn't. Don't lie, board retard.

[Spurtacular]

No it hasn't. Don't lie, board retard.

It's been shown to them that this is what the CDC says; and somehow all of them still need to believe the numbers are accurate.
TheGreatYacht will tell you this is so. This is why you're a weak man, blake; and you always will be.

[Blake]

It's been shown to them that this is what the CDC says;

No it hasn't. Don't lie, board retard.

[DMC]

Its sad how the far right can't tell the difference between expressing outrage over a senseless murder, and wanting to jibber jabber with friends over a beer.

murder = moral equivalent of talking with friends over a beer.

That is how dumb you sound here.

So it's not about lives.

[Spurtacular]

No it hasn't. Don't lie, board retard.

Don't act up, board cuckold.
Do I need to tell you who you can ask?

[Blake]

Don't act up, board cuckold.
Do I need to tell you who you can ask?

:cry "you can ask great yacht he'll vouch for me" :cry

You have no proof of your claims. You're a liar and a clown.

[Spurtacular]

:cry "you can ask great yacht he'll vouch for me" :cry

You have no proof of your claims. You're a liar and a clown.

I can give you a chumpette reference.

And then in the future, try not to lash out.

[Xevious]

Oh, you can read now?

It's on the CDC website.

These people don't give a sh** about the holes in their narrative.

They can count on the moron populous to soak it all up.
Link?

I'm not combing the entire CDC website to look for your fake claim.

[Spurtacular]

:cry "you can ask great yacht he'll vouch for me" :cry

You have no proof of your claims. You're a liar and a clown.

Cherp's seen the link and knows the numbers are BS, and he still 'liked' your post and set you up
to double down on your tantrum.

Why would he do that? Cos he doesn't see you as anything more than his cuck toadie.
You have not dignity for him to preserve let alone want to preserve. :lmao

[RandomGuy]

cuck


:lmao

[RandomGuy]

[pivots from one strawman to another].

[boredom]

[RandomGuy]

Cherp's seen the link and knows the numbers are BS, and he still 'liked' your post and set you up
to double down on your tantrum.

Why would he do that? Cos he doesn't see you as anything more than his cuck toadie.
You have not dignity for him to preserve let alone want to preserve. :lmao

That doesn't look like a link.

That looks like you are, once again, talking out your ass. Link... or talking out your ass.

You make the choice, bullshit has been called.

[hater]

:lmao restaurants closing back up in florida :lmao :lmao

Called it

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

Your wife already announced you're a cuckold. Get a grip.

[Spurtacular]

That doesn't look like a link.

That looks like you are, once again, talking out your ass. Link... or talking out your ass.

You make the choice, bullshit has been called.

I already gave you the link the other day, moron.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao restaurants closing back up in florida :lmao :lmao

Called it

Healthy people aren't dying.

[hater]

Healthy people aren't dying.

Restaurants closing anyway :lmao

[Blake]

Link?

I'm not combing the entire CDC website to look for your fake claim.

Neither is derp

[Blake]

I already gave you the link the other day, moron.

:lmao "I already gave it to you the other day"

[RandomGuy]

That doesn't look like a link.

That looks like you are, once again, talking out your ass. Link... or talking out your ass.

You make the choice, bullshit has been called.



I already gave you the link the other day, moron.

No, you didn't. If you had, you could re-post it easily. That you won't now, simply proves that.

So bullshit it is.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao "I already gave it to you the other day"

"I have a girlfriend in Canada" :lol

[tholdren]

:lmao restaurants closing back up in florida :lmao :lmao

Called it

No they aren't. Maybe Miami indoor dining.

[tholdren]

No, you didn't. If you had, you could re-post it easily. That you won't now, simply proves that.

So bullshit it is.

Lol your math. Texas was supposed to have 0 hospital capacity now, right?

[tholdren]

Lol your math. Texas was supposed to have 0 hospital capacity now, right?


/thread

[Blake]

Lol your math. Texas was supposed to have 0 hospital capacity now, right?

/lie

[ChumpDumper]

/threadLol your 10k tops math.

/foldren

[Splits]

https://i.imgur.com/vlb7NNA.png

lol Australia. Look at that "spike" and they just locked down Melbourne for 6 weeks, bunch of pussies.

No lockdowns in 'Murica!

USA! USA!

[hater]

https://i.imgur.com/vlb7NNA.png

lol Australia. Look at that "spike" and they just locked down Melbourne for 6 weeks, bunch of pussies.

No lockdowns in 'Murica!

USA! USA!

Toilet paper runs hit Australian stores again :lmao

Coming to an american store near you very soon :lol

[Blake]

"Texas reported more than 10,000 new Covid-19 cases Tuesday, a record-breaking daily surge as the state responds to a growing outbreak and rising hospitalizations.

The Texas Health and Human Services Commission reported 10,028 new cases, which surpasses the state's previous record of nearly 8,260 cases set on July 4. It's the first time since the beginning of the outbreak that the state has reported more than 10,000 additional new cases in a single day...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/texas-says-new-coronavirus-cases-jumped-by-more-than-10000-for-the-first-time.html

[hater]

"Texas reported more than 10,000 new Covid-19 cases Tuesday, a record-breaking daily surge as the state responds to a growing outbreak and rising hospitalizations.

The Texas Health and Human Services Commission reported 10,028 new cases, which surpasses the state's previous record of nearly 8,260 cases set on July 4. It's the first time since the beginning of the outbreak that the state has reported more than 10,000 additional new cases in a single day...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/texas-says-new-coronavirus-cases-jumped-by-more-than-10000-for-the-first-time.html

If anything these unnecessary spikes destroyed the 2020-21 school year

That's best case.

Worse case these unecessary spikes will overwhelm hospitals and result in thousands of unnecessary deaths

[ChumpDumper]

If anything these unnecessary spikes destroyed the 2020-21 school yearOh, we'll go back to school as normally as possible until the body count proves us wrong.

Abbott's afraid to call off his own party's convention; there's no way he'll call off school.

[CosmicCowboy]

Yep, he just announced school districts had to provide remote learning and onsite classes, whichever the student and parents chose. Masks required at school LOL. Like kids will comply with that.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Education Agency to require on-campus learning, face masks this fall

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2020/07/08/texas-education-agency-requires-on-campus-learning.html?fbclid=IwAR17kM5iE1F57jw0MEUQLinP-YrQgkrliIRKMqO2XrQ_wJ0uUSu-rq5h3rw

[leemajors]

How the hell will you fit even half a class in a classroom with desks 6 feet apart, with how crowded they already are? My daughter is 15 and says the hallways in middle and high school are so congested you have to squeeze by people just to get down a hallway. How are they supposed to social distance in the hallway even with half the student body on campus?

I would like for my daughter to be in school, especially for her AP classes, especially Japanese as she can't get experience speaking with someone else very good over Zoom, but it just seems like it will not happen.

[Blake]

Yep, he just announced school districts had to provide remote learning and onsite classes, whichever the student and parents chose. Masks required at school LOL. Like kids will comply with that.

Seriously, what will the school do if a student purposely takes their mask off? Purposely coughs on another student? That type of stuff?

Send them home?

[Spurtacular]

Seriously, what will the school do if a student purposely takes their mask off? Purposely coughs on another student? That type of stuff?

Send them home?

Have the police charge the (white) perp with attempted murder, amirite?

[RandomGuy]

Yep, he just announced school districts had to provide remote learning and onsite classes, whichever the student and parents chose. Masks required at school LOL. Like kids will comply with that.

They won't. They have figured out it won't harm them. It will though, have a much greater chance of killing the boomers, who collectively haven't given a shit about climate change and will harm them for the rest of their lives.

A mite of justice in that regard.

[RandomGuy]

"Texas reported more than 10,000 new Covid-19 cases Tuesday, a record-breaking daily surge as the state responds to a growing outbreak and rising hospitalizations.

The Texas Health and Human Services Commission reported 10,028 new cases, which surpasses the state's previous record of nearly 8,260 cases set on July 4. It's the first time since the beginning of the outbreak that the state has reported more than 10,000 additional new cases in a single day...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/texas-says-new-coronavirus-cases-jumped-by-more-than-10000-for-the-first-time.html

Eyup. Case counts will keep going up for another week or two, if not more.

[RandomGuy]

cuck

:lmao

[tholdren]

Eyup. Case counts will keep going up for another week or two, if not more.
Lololololol RandomGuy 2 weeks lolololol

[tholdren]

Lololololol RandomGuy 2 weeks lolololol

Now 3 weeks.. lololool

[pgardn]

How the hell will you fit even half a class in a classroom with desks 6 feet apart, with how crowded they already are? My daughter is 15 and says the hallways in middle and high school are so congested you have to squeeze by people just to get down a hallway. How are they supposed to social distance in the hallway even with half the student body on campus?

I would like for my daughter to be in school, especially for her AP classes, especially Japanese as she can't get experience speaking with someone else very good over Zoom, but it just seems like it will not happen.

they are going to have to alternate days

at least break up kids into 1/3 groups
2/3 time at home
Something like this

[baseline bum]

How the hell will you fit even half a class in a classroom with desks 6 feet apart, with how crowded they already are? My daughter is 15 and says the hallways in middle and high school are so congested you have to squeeze by people just to get down a hallway. How are they supposed to social distance in the hallway even with half the student body on campus?

I would like for my daughter to be in school, especially for her AP classes, especially Japanese as she can't get experience speaking with someone else very good over Zoom, but it just seems like it will not happen.

Damn they teach Japanese in high school now? I'm jealous.

[boutons_deux]

Are Kids Really Spared From the Coronavirus?

Some children are having a delayed immune reaction after getting infected.

The extent of the condition is just coming into view.

doctors in the U.K. report

rapidly progressing inflammation in the lungs and abdomen of kids with MIS-C.

Other children had blood clots and heart failure. The American College of Rheumatology (https://www.rheumatology.org/Portals/0/Files/ACR-COVID-19-Clinical-Guidance-Summary-MIS-C-Hyperinflammation.pdf) recently noted that

some children with MIS-C are in shock and have neurologic symptoms.

They are also likely to develop an irregular heartbeat or to have their ventricles misfire, dangerously dropping their blood pressure.

In some cases, kids have life-threatening aneurysms that threaten to burst the coronary arteries, the delicate vessels that supply blood to the heart.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/paging-dr-hamblin-kids-coronavirus-inflammatory-syndrome/613714/

Trash, Repugs absolutely don't give a shit about the kids

Trash wants to say in Sep-Oct that he alone opened the schools

(but he will blame others for 1000s of sick kids, teachers, staff, parents)

[tholdren]

Are Kids Really Spared From the Coronavirus?

Some children are having a delayed immune reaction after getting infected.

The extent of the condition is just coming into view.

doctors in the U.K. report

rapidly progressing inflammation in the lungs and abdomen of kids with MIS-C.

Other children had blood clots and heart failure. The American College of Rheumatology (https://www.rheumatology.org/Portals/0/Files/ACR-COVID-19-Clinical-Guidance-Summary-MIS-C-Hyperinflammation.pdf) recently noted that

some children with MIS-C are in shock and have neurologic symptoms.

They are also likely to develop an irregular heartbeat or to have their ventricles misfire, dangerously dropping their blood pressure.

In some cases, kids have life-threatening aneurysms that threaten to burst the coronary arteries, the delicate vessels that supply blood to the heart.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/paging-dr-hamblin-kids-coronavirus-inflammatory-syndrome/613714/

Trash, Repugs absolutely don't give a shit about the kids

Trash wants to say in Sep-Oct that he alone opened the schools

(but he will blame others for 1000s of sick kids, teachers, staff, parents)




nwahahahhahahahahahah this is completely false

[tholdren]

they are going to have to alternate days

at least break up kids into 1/3 groups
2/3 time at home
Something like this

lolololol parents not going to work. America failing due to pgardn and friends

[midnightpulp]

Texas isn't looking too hot. 27 percent positive rate and hospitalizations are accelerating.

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

tholdren, please stay at home as much as possible and wear a mask if you go out. Write your local and state leaders requesting that all non-essential business be shut down. Be a good citizen for Texas in its time of need.

[tholdren]

Texas isn't looking too hot. 27 percent positive rate and hospitalizations are accelerating.

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

tholdren, please stay at home as much as possible and wear a mask if you go out. Write your local and state leaders requesting that all non-essential business be shut down. Be a good citizen for Texas in its time of need.

you dont even understand what counts as a case count or a hospitalization. Lolol


Sweet chart bro

[DarrinS]

Every person that gets infected, quarantines, and recovers, is one less person spreading it. Can't get herd immunity without people getting it.

[midnightpulp]

you dont even understand what counts as a case count or a hospitalization. Lolol


Sweet chart bro

Guy is hospitalized for cutting his hand off with a circular saw, but tests positive for Covid and is thus counted as a Covid hospitalization. This is what you believe, isn't it?

[tholdren]

Guy is hospitalized for cutting his hand off with a circular saw, but tests positive for Covid and is thus counted as a Covid hospitalization. This is what you believe, isn't it?
Go ahead and list the definitions for cases and hospitalizations.

You saying your example isn't a new case or a hospitalization?

[midnightpulp]

Every person that gets infected, quarantines, and recovers, is one less person spreading it. Can't get herd immunity without people getting it.

Why do you think the herd immunity strategy is wise? Why not, I don't know, reduce the odds of getting and spreading the virus through different measures until more proven treatments and a vaccine arrive? I expect the former to be here by the Fall, maybe earlier.

We also have ZERO clue how this virus affects people long term. It's more than just a respiratory virus. It also causes clotting and neurological damage.

[tholdren]

Why do you think the herd immunity strategy is wise? Why not, I don't know, reduce the odds of getting and spreading the virus through different measures until more proven treatments and a vaccine arrive? I expect the former to be here by the Fall, maybe earlier.

We also have ZERO clue how this virus affects people long term. It's more than just a respiratory virus. It also causes clotting and neurological damage.

Lollololololl wrong.

[midnightpulp]

Go ahead and list the definitions for cases and hospitalizations.

You saying your example isn't a new case or a hospitalization?

If an obese fatneck with the beetus stumbles into the ER needing oxygen and then is diagnosed with Covid, Covid sent him to the hospital, not his 'beetus or fatness. But you deniers spin a case like that as a guy being hospitalized for his 'beetus and he simply has Covid.

[hater]

Every person that gets infected, quarantines, and recovers, is one less person spreading it. Can't get herd immunity without people getting it.

Thats not how herd immunity works. Herd immunity means the stronger protect the weaker by building immunity (usually through vaccine. The actual term herd immunity was created when discussing vacvines)

We dont have a vaccine therefore herd immunity cannot exist.

The term herd immunity as used by idiots like trump, bojo is just a myth it really just means worse case scenario.

On top of it there is no proof that a human build immunity to COVID after the 1st infection.

[tholdren]

If an obese fatneck with the beetus stumbles into the ER needing oxygen and then is diagnosed with Covid, Covid sent him to the hospital, not his obesity or fatness. But you deniers spin a case like that as a guy being hospitalized for his 'beetus and he simply has Covid.

wrong. Scientifically absolutely false. But continue to be ignorant.

[hater]

Im hearing bodies are really piling up at homes in Houston. Like what happened in NYC.

If true we should see mass graves and bodybag containers show up in the next few weeks tbqh

[midnightpulp]

Reposting for the flip:

Texas isn't looking too hot. 27 percent positive rate and hospitalizations are accelerating.

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

tholdren, please stay at home as much as possible and wear a mask if you go out. Write your local and state leaders requesting that all non-essential business be shut down. Be a good citizen for Texas in its time of need.

And I'll stress again to tholdren to heed the above advice. We all have to do our parts as Americans to reduce spread.

[baseline bum]

If an obese fatneck with the beetus stumbles into the ER needing oxygen and then is diagnosed with Covid, Covid sent him to the hospital, not his 'beetus or fatness. But you deniers spin a case like that as a guy being hospitalized for his 'beetus and he simply has Covid.

Why do you even argue with that ignorant motherfucker? No use wasting your time playing the Giuesppe Rodeo with that Trumptard.

[tholdren]

Reposting for the flip:

Texas isn't looking too hot. 27 percent positive rate and hospitalizations are accelerating.

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

tholdren, please stay at home as much as possible and wear a mask if you go out. Write your local and state leaders requesting that all non-essential business be shut down. Be a good citizen for Texas in its time of need.

And I'll stress again to tholdren to heed the above advice. We all have to do our parts as Americans to reduce spread.

Bwahahahhahaha terrible out of context chart. Keep.guessing. lololol

You low iq

[midnightpulp]

Why do you even argue with that ignorant motherfucker? No use wasting your time playing the Giuesppe Rodeo with that Trumptard.

Indeed. The poor boy is hopeless.

[tholdren]

Thats not how herd immunity works. Herd immunity means the stronger protect the weaker by building immunity (usually through vaccine. The actual term herd immunity was created when discussing vacvines)

We dont have a vaccine therefore herd immunity cannot exist.

The term herd immunity as used by idiots like trump, bojo is just a myth it really just means worse case scenario.

On top of it there is no proof that a human build immunity to COVID after the 1st infection.

Lol 100 percent false. Man this is a terrible take

[vy65]

Reposting for the flip:

Texas isn't looking too hot. 27 percent positive rate and hospitalizations are accelerating.

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

tholdren, please stay at home as much as possible and wear a mask if you go out. Write your local and state leaders requesting that all non-essential business be shut down. Be a good citizen for Texas in its time of need.

And I'll stress again to tholdren to heed the above advice. We all have to do our parts as Americans to reduce spread.

That’s bizarre. Texas Med Center is reporting Htown’s positivity rate to be nearly a third of that at 11%. I thought Houston was the hardest hit in Texas?

[baseline bum]

Why do you think the herd immunity strategy is wise? Why not, I don't know, reduce the odds of getting and spreading the virus through different measures until more proven treatments and a vaccine arrive? I expect the former to be here by the Fall, maybe earlier.

We also have ZERO clue how this virus affects people long term. It's more than just a respiratory virus. It also causes clotting and neurological damage.

Why would you expect a vaccine in the fall? That is only the absolute best case scenario -- eg the Oxford vaccine which had already gotten safety testing and just needs effectiveness testing, which is going on right now. Everyone else has to do both safety and effectiveness and those both take a lot of time. And this could very be like all the other coronaviruses we have never been able to get a vaccine for. Hell we still don't have a vaccine for HIV nearly forty years after identifying it as the cause of AIDS and that shit has killed between 25-42 million. I wouldn't be so confident in a vaccine and definitely not this summer.

[tholdren]

Why do you even argue with that ignorant motherfucker? No use wasting your time playing the Giuesppe Rodeo with that Trumptard.

Lol this guy blocks people then he spies on them and responds passive aggressively. And on top of all that karen he still thinks new cases mean new infections. Hilarious.

[tholdren]

Why would you expect a vaccine in the fall? That is only the absolute best case scenario -- eg the Oxford vaccine which had already gotten safety testing and just needs effectiveness testing, which is going on right now. Everyone else has to do both safety and effectiveness and those both take a lot of time. And this could very be like all the other coronaviruses we have never been able to get a vaccine for. Hell we still don't have a vaccine for HIV nearly forty years after identifying it as the cause of AIDS and that shit has killed between 25-42 million. I wouldn't be so confident in a vaccine and definitely not this summer.
Terrible logic right.here.

[baseline bum]

Lol this guy blocks people then he spies on them and responds passive aggressively. And on top of all that karen he still thinks new cases mean new infections. Hilarious.

shhh... men are talking

[vy65]

Why would you expect a vaccine in the fall? That is only the absolute best case scenario -- eg the Oxford vaccine which had already gotten safety testing and just needs effectiveness testing, which is going on right now. Everyone else has to do both safety and effectiveness and those both take a lot of time. And this could very be like all the other coronaviruses we have never been able to get a vaccine for. Hell we still don't have a vaccine for HIV nearly forty years after identifying it as the cause of AIDS and that shit has killed between 25-42 million. I wouldn't be so confident in a vaccine and definitely not this summer.

I’ve been reading up on the vaccines since I’ve abandoned all hope that the public and the government can do shit to stop the spread. There’s the AstraZeneca vaccine you mentioned and also Moderna’s RNA treatment that will start phase 3 trials this month. I think Pfizer and some other European and Chinese vaccines will start phase 3 soon thereafter.

I’m pretty incredulous that a vaccine with some level of effectiveness (e.g., over 50%) could be ready by October. But a lot of articles reference cautious optimism by the medical community so I dunno.

[vy65]

FYI. 4 already in Phase 3 and one vaccine already exists (lol China)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.amp.html

[tholdren]

Lol this guy blocks people then he spies on them and responds passive aggressively. And on top of all that karen he still thinks new cases mean new infections. Hilarious.

Bwahahahahahah pwned

[midnightpulp]

Why are politicians allowed to lie through their fuckin' teeth like this (go ahead and find examples of Dems lying, Wingnuts. Anyone should be called out.):

1280374566280445952

"California is spiking more."

No.

Texas:

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

California:

https://i.imgur.com/pLeXB4M.png

California ain't trending too hot, either, but Texas's trending is a lot worse. 27 percent positive rate today vs. CA's 12 percent. And Texas has 2000 more hospitalizations with their trend on a steeper incline.

Due in part probably to Texas having a greater of tholdrens. But we have our share, too, and Newsom and local governments have caved to the Freedumbs crowd.

[tholdren]

Why are politicians allowed to lie through their fuckin' teeth like this (go ahead and find examples of Dems lying, Wingnuts. Anyone should be called out.):

1280374566280445952

"California is spiking more."

No.

Texas:

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

California:

https://i.imgur.com/pLeXB4M.png

California ain't trending too hot, either, but Texas's trending is a lot worse. 27 percent positive rate today vs. CA's 12 percent. And Texas has 2000 more hospitalizations with their trend on a steeper incline.

Due in part probably to Texas having a greater of tholdrens. But we have our share, too, and Newsom and local governments have caved to the Freedumbs crowd.

Lol you still dont know how new cases are counted. Lol why you don't understand.lolololilIl

[midnightpulp]

Why would you expect a vaccine in the fall? That is only the absolute best case scenario -- eg the Oxford vaccine which had already gotten safety testing and just needs effectiveness testing, which is going on right now. Everyone else has to do both safety and effectiveness and those both take a lot of time. And this could very be like all the other coronaviruses we have never been able to get a vaccine for. Hell we still don't have a vaccine for HIV nearly forty years after identifying it as the cause of AIDS and that shit has killed between 25-42 million. I wouldn't be so confident in a vaccine and definitely not this summer.

I don't expect the vaccine by the Fall. "Former" was referring that I do expect a proven drug treatment to arrive by the Fall.

[tholdren]

I don't expect the vaccine by the Fall. "Former" was referring that I do expect a proven drug treatment to arrive by the Fall.

Bwahahahaahaha you dont understand data reports but pretend to. Lololol


Whats a new.case?

Lolololol

More charts!!!

[ChumpDumper]

Why are politicians allowed to lie through their fuckin' teeth like this (go ahead and find examples of Dems lying, Wingnuts. Anyone should be called out.):

1280374566280445952

"California is spiking more."

No.

Texas:

https://i.imgur.com/ioMgKck.png

California:

https://i.imgur.com/pLeXB4M.png

California ain't trending too hot, either, but Texas's trending is a lot worse. 27 percent positive rate today vs. CA's 12 percent. And Texas has 2000 more hospitalizations with their trend on a steeper incline.

Due in part probably to Texas having a greater of tholdrens. But we have our share, too, and Newsom and local governments have caved to the Freedumbs crowd.lol thabbottren

[midnightpulp]

Lol you still dont know how new cases are counted. Lol why you don't understand.lolololilIl

You mean the nonsense that single people are being tested 10 times in one day and are counted as 10 individual new cases, right?

[baseline bum]

I don't expect the vaccine by the Fall. "Former" was referring that I do expect a proven drug treatment to arrive by the Fall.

Shit, my bad. Still, haven't really found much in six months of the pandemic though so I wouldn't get my hopes too high. I believe Fauci when he says there will be no miracle cure.

[midnightpulp]

lol thabbottren

You replied before I could embed the tweet properly. Here's what Abbot was saying.

1280374566280445952