Texas response to Corona virus

[TSA]

LOL you think she should risk her life for Trump's re-election campaign.

If she's a 60 year fat fuck with Comorbidities then no, she shouldn't go back to teaching and should find another job or retire. If she's under 60 and healthy then she needs to get back to work and do her fucking job.

[baseline bum]

If she's a 60 year fat fuck with Comorbidities then no, she shouldn't go back to teaching and should find another job or retire. If she's under 60 and healthy then she needs to get back to work and do her fucking job.

Because Dear Leader needs to be able to pretend the country is doing great. It's not her job to get herself killed.

[TSA]

Stupid motherfucker, the science you yourself posted shows that adolescents contract and transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults.

Feel free to post any science about how adolescents are "not vectors", as I have repeatedly asked your disingenuous, lying ass.

White House: ‘Science Should Not Stand in the Way’ of School Openings

Feel free to call the white house "science deniers" as well, stupid motherfucker. We all know you won't, because it is really hard to lick someones boots when you are calling them out for denying science.

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

And stop spamming multiple threads with your fake news.

“The science should not stand in the way of this, And as Dr. Scott Atlas said — I thought this was a good quote — ‘Of course we can do it. Everyone else in the Western world, our peer nations, are doing it. We are the outlier here.’ The science is very clear on this — that, you know, for instance, you look at the [Journal of the American Medical Association's] pediatric study of 46 pediatric hospitals in North America that said the risk of critical illness from COVID is far less for children than that of seasonal flu. The science is on our side here. We encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science. Open our schools.

[baseline bum]

You see this story about him sending the Feds into Portland? Disgusting. I'm sure the self-proclaimed "libertarians" on here have no problem, though.

Why would libertarians give a fuck about the first amendment?

[baseline bum]

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

And stop spamming multiple threads with your fake news.

“The science should not stand in the way of this, And as Dr. Scott Atlas said — I thought this was a good quote — ‘Of course we can do it. Everyone else in the Western world, our peer nations, are doing it. We are the outlier here.’ The science is very clear on this — that, you know, for instance, you look at the [Journal of the American Medical Association's] pediatric study of 46 pediatric hospitals in North America that said the risk of critical illness from COVID is far less for children than that of seasonal flu. The science is on our side here. We encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science. Open our schools.

The science says don't pack yourself into indoor spaces with other people for extended periods.

[RandomGuy]

I'm fine with not reopening schools, but that's easy for me. I've already been working from home for years and I have older kids who are self sufficient.

I'm pretty sure school closures disproportionately affect poorer families.

Oh well.


'Riddled With Lies': Analysis Finds Fox News Covid-19 Coverage Featured Misinformation 253 Times in Just Five Days
The network, said an MMFA researcher, "downplays the threat of the virus, dismisses the recommendations of public health officials, and misrepresents the scientific consensus on the disease."

[TSA]

Because Dear Leader needs to be able to pretend the country is doing great. It's not her job to get herself killed.

You need to wait for RG to confirm or deny her being a 60 year old fat fuck with Comorbidities before thinking her job will get her killed.

[TSA]

The science says don't pack yourself into indoor spaces with other people for extended periods.

True for adults bu untrue for children, as the science has proven.

[baseline bum]

You need to wait for RG to confirm or deny her being a 60 year old fat fuck with Comorbidities before thinking her job will get her killed.

Packing yourself tightly into indoor spaces with 160 other people sounds like a great idea as Texas is a raging COVID inferno

[RandomGuy]

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

That was in the links that you yourself posted. :lol But sure, because I am not a lazy shit like you, I will get you the quote. Have to give me enough time to thumb back through them to find it.

The older they are, the closer to adults rates. I would also point out that 18 year olds go to high school. Most of my graduating class was 18. My eldest will turn 18 before he graduates as well.

[Blake]

If she's a 60 year fat fuck with Comorbidities then no, she shouldn't go back to teaching and should find another job or retire. If she's under 60 and healthy then she needs to get back to work and do her fucking job.

Tsa denying science

[baseline bum]

True for adults bu untrue for children, as the science has proven.

True for children too or we wouldn't be having outbreaks at daycares and summer camps.

[Blake]

The science says don't pack yourself into indoor spaces with other people for extended periods.

YEAH BUT WE LET PROTESTERS PROTEST. SAME THING

[midnightpulp]

Why would libertarians give a fuck about the first amendment?

The supposed greatest fear Libertarians have is federal overreach of anything. Even if these protesters were burning babies in the streets, the Federal Government has NO RIGHT to intervene. Trump sent in the DHS driving around in unmarked vans to round up protesters. They were dressed in full camo with a generic "Police" patch. No badge number, names, no reading of rights, nothing.

And not a peep.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-accused-deploying-secret-police-portland-political-stunt-1518595

[tholdren]

Packing yourself tightly into indoor spaces with 160 other people sounds like a great idea as Texas is a raging COVID inferno

Masks don't work?

[TSA]

True for children too or we wouldn't be having outbreaks at daycares and summer camps.

Show me a study showing children being a high risk of passing it on to other children and adults. Every study done so far proves the opposite.

[baseline bum]

Masks don't work?

It's like everything is black and white with you Trumptards.

[clambake]

Take down trump baby gates and open the White House, then we can talk about schools.

[RandomGuy]

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?

So following your links...


"Beyond 10-12 years, a study by the Institut Pasteur has shown that there, at that time, adolescents find the profile of parents, and they can indeed be both vectors and transmitters, ”he adds. The epidemiological study in question, published on April 23, had been conducted in a high school in Crépy-en-Valois, in Oise, an epicenter of the epidemic in France.

"The risk of being infected in the home went from 9% to 17% for parents if the student was infected, and from 3% to 21% for siblings," said the study.
According to Professor Arnaud Fontanet, first author of the text and head of the Epidemiology of Emerging Diseases Unit at the Institut Pasteur in Paris, "high school students are closer to adults for the capacity to transmit the virus than to children".

Jules Pecnard
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/education/plus-de-risques-chez-soi-qu-a-l-ecole-pour-les-enfants-ce-qu-en-disent-les-pediatres_AN-202005120083.html

First hit. References the same studies you are citing.

Started with your first linkr:

Kids don't carry enough of a viral load to be vectors, and the study you linked doesn't say that kids are vectors for transmission, which is the point being debated.

"Low carriers, low transmitters": study confirms the minimal role of children in the Covid-19 epidemic
[url]https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/peu-porteurs-peu-transmetteurs-une-etude-confirme-le-role-minime-des-enfants-dans-l-epidemie-de-covid-19_AV-202005120233.html

Clicked on the hyperlinks trying to find the underlying studies, found the hit above.

I'll keep going.

[baseline bum]

Show me a study showing children being a high risk of passing it on to other children and adults. Every study done so far proves the opposite.

I remember your article where the guy wouldn't touch the day care center outbreaks with a ten foot pole.

[RandomGuy]

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?

Second link was just an interview. Nothing on adolescents there.


K
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2006100

Third link:


Conclulsions:
In a population-based study in Iceland, children under 10 years of age and females had a lower incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection than adolescents or adults and males.

the rate for adolescents were higher. didn't really say how much. Linked references behind paywall...

Moving on.

[RandomGuy]

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?



https://www.rts.ch/info/sciences-tech/medecine/11255942-en-suisse-104-enfants-de-moins-de-10-ans-ont-ete-testes-positifs-au-covid-19.html

Some garbage from April, and not really a scientific paper. In fact it doesn't cite a single scientific refernce, other than a government statement about "Very young people"

Sloppy, but par for your fucking spam linkathons. If memory serves "enfants" is never used for post-pubescents anyways. That would have clued you in, if you had any French proficiency.

So far we are batting zero for your statement that "children" are immune.

Looks like in your laziness you didn't understand your material well enough to understand that it meant "under 10".

Moving on.

[TSA]

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?

So following your links...

https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/education/plus-de-risques-chez-soi-qu-a-l-ecole-pour-les-enfants-ce-qu-en-disent-les-pediatres_AN-202005120083.html

First hit. References the same studies you are citing.

Started with your first linkr:


Clicked on the hyperlinks trying to find the underlying studies, found the hit above.

I'll keep going.

Nice to see you finally putting some work in. Were the high schoolers in question wearing masks?

Here's another study from Institut Pasteur

An epidemiological survey of 1,340 people linked to primary schools in Crépy-en-Valois, in the Oise department, conducted in late April 2020 found that based on some cases of infection detected in the students before the schools closed, it appears that the children did not spread the infection to other students or to teachers or other staff at the schools.

The survey was carried out by scientists at the Institut Pasteur, with the support of the Hauts-de-France Regional Health Agency and the Amiens Education Authority. The survey, which made use of serological tests developed by the Institut Pasteur, revealed that the proportion of primary school students infected by the novel coronavirus was 8.8%. The results were published online on pasteur.fr on June 23, 2020.​

The findings included:

· The virus had been circulating in the community from late January 2020. The number of cases gradually increased until early March before stabilizing and then beginning to fall at the end of March.

· Of the 1,340 people included in the study, 139 had been infected by the virus, representing 10.4% of the population under study.

· 510 students from six primary schools were included in the study. There were three probable cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in three different schools before the schools closed for the February vacation and then for the lockdown in Crépy-en-Valois. These cases did not give rise to secondary cases among other school students or teaching staff.

· The teachers were only marginally affected, with just 3/42 (7.1%) teachers infected in total, a similar figure to the number of parents of non-infected children in the study who were infected by the virus (6.9%). For non-teaching staff, the proportion of infection was 1/28 (3.6%).

· The rate of infection was very high among parents of infected children (61.0%), but just 6.9% among parents of non-infected children. This suggests that the parents were the source of infection of their children in several cases.

· Only two individuals were admitted to hospital (1.4%) for COVID-19 out of the 139 recorded cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection, a figure that is not surprising for a relatively young population. Both individuals admitted to hospital were parents. There were no deaths.

· The children had minor forms of the disease, with clinical signs that were not particularly indicative of COVID-19. The only symptoms typically associated with the disease were diarrhea, experienced by 10 of the 58 infected children, and fatigue, experienced by 15 of them.

· In adults, 90.7% of those who lost their sense of smell and 75% of those who lost their sense of taste during the period of the study were infected with SARS-CoV-2, confirming the strong predictive value of these signs.

· The proportion of asymptomatic forms in infected individuals was estimated at 8/81 (9.9%) in adults and 24/58 (41.4%) in children.

The study identified three probable cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in three primary schools in Crépy-en-Valois before the schools closed for the February vacation and then for the lockdown in Crépy-en-Valois. But there was no secondary transmission of the virus to other children at the school, or from children to teachers. Most of the children were infected by their family members, probably their parents. The results are reassuring in view of the reopening of primary schools but they need to be confirmed by other studies in a school environment. A previous study by the same authors at the high school in Crépy-en-Valois demonstrated that a much higher proportion of high school students were infected during the February outbreak and that teachers and other school staff were also affected by the outbreak.

"Overall, the results of this study are comparable to those of studies carried out in other countries, which suggest that children aged between 6 and 11 are generally infected in a family environment rather than at school. The main new finding is that the infected children did not spread the virus to other children or to teachers or other school staff. These results need to be confirmed by other studies, given the low number of introductions of the virus in the schools under study," commented Arnaud Fontanet, lead author of the study, Head of the Epidemiology of Emerging Diseases Unit at the Institut Pasteur and a Professor at the CNAM. "Once again, the willingness of the people of Crépy-en-Valois to take part in this study gave us the opportunity to further our knowledge about the virus so that we can be as well prepared as possible for children to return to school," continues Arnaud Fontanet.

"The study also confirmed that younger children infected by the novel coronavirus generally do not develop symptoms or present with minor symptoms that may result in a failure to diagnose the virus. The highly characteristic signs of loss of taste and smell were not observed at all in children under the age of 15, despite being experienced by half of the adults," adds Bruno Hoen, last author of the study and Medical Research Director at the Institut Pasteur.

https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-prevention/screening-surveillance/article/21143692/scientists-find-no-significant-covid19-transmission-among-children-or-from-students-to-teachers-in-primary-schools

[ChumpDumper]

True for adults bu untrue for children, as the science has proven.According to your earlier posts, up to 8% of infected kids could infect adults.

We have a lot more infected kids than any country you cited.

Do you see the disconnect in what you're saying?

[tholdren]

According to your earlier posts, up to 8% of infected kids could infect adults.

We have a lot more infected kids than any country you cited.

Do you see the disconnect in what you're saying?

Masks don't work?

[RandomGuy]

Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?



https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/children-and-covid-19

This one, presents a huge problem, evidence wise, and also shows how sloppy you are.

The "infected contacts by age of patient" chart indeed shows zero infected contacts below age 19.

What you missed was the sample size in the chart above it.
Kind of hard to draw a sceintific conclusion of any size from a population of 12 incidents. Tentative, but not conclusive, because there is no indication in the data of any factors considered that might control for confounding variables.

Jeeez.

Moving on, and skipping the duplicate link.

[TSA]

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?



Some garbage from April, and not really a scientific paper. In fact it doesn't cite a single scientific refernce, other than a government statement about "Very young people"

Sloppy, but par for your fucking spam linkathons. If memory serves "enfants" is never used for post-pubescents anyways. That would have clued you in, if you had any French proficiency.

So far we are batting zero for your statement that "children" are immune.

Looks like in your laziness you didn't understand your material well enough to understand that it meant "under 10".

Moving on.

So you're agreeing children under 10 should be back in school as they pose very little risk to infect and spread?

[RandomGuy]

An epidemiological survey of 1,340 people linked to primary schools... the children...

children aged between 6 and 11


"The study also confirmed that younger children

https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-prevention/screening-surveillance/article/21143692/scientists-find-no-significant-covid19-transmission-among-children-or-from-students-to-teachers-in-primary-schools

References the same work from your other links. No statements about adolescents, and all the conclusive data is on "younger children".

Moving on.

[TSA]

:lol the irony of you calling me lazy for not telling you what is in the links YOU POSTED. :rollin seriously, do you ever think about this shit before you post?



This one, presents a huge problem, evidence wise, and also shows how sloppy you are.

The "infected contacts by age of patient" chart indeed shows zero infected contacts below age 19.

What you missed was the sample size in the chart above it.
Kind of hard to draw a sceintific conclusion of any size from a population of 12 incidents. Tentative, but not conclusive, because there is no indication in the data of any factors considered that might control for confounding variables.

Jeeez.

Moving on, and skipping the duplicate link.

COVID-19 in Dutch households

Within a short time frame, RIVM National Institute for Public Health and the Environment set up a study to find out more about people infected with COVID-19 and their family contacts. In cooperation with GGD Utrecht, various families took part in this study. A total of 54 households took part up to mid-April, involving 239 participants, including 185 housemates. In this family-based study, there were no indications found in any of the 54 participating families that a child <12 years old was the source of COVID-19 within the family. The first part of the study has now been completed. The second part of the study is still ongoing. RIVM will be looking at the spread of the virus within families after a diagnosis of COVID-19 in a child. This approach gives us an even better opportunity to investigate how often an infection in children leads to further spread of the virus.

Schools and childcare facilities

Primary schools have been partially reopened since 11 May. The schools reopened fully on 8 June. Childcare facilities are also open again as of that date. Secondary education, special secondary education, practical education and newcomer education reopened on 2 June.

After double-checking with all 25 municipal public health services (GGDs), it has become apparent that there were no reports of possible COVID-19 clusters that had a link to schools or childcare facilities (or temporary childcare) before the schools closed on 16 March. After reopening the primary schools and childcare facilities, a few reports have come in regarding infections among employees at schools; RIVM has not received any reports of employees who were infected by children (based on data as of early June 2020). The reproduction number R, which represents the average number of new infections by a COVID-19 patient, has fluctuated below 1 since mid-March. This means that the spread of the epidemic is slowing down. After the partial reopening of primary schools and childcare facilities on 11 May, there was no sudden increase in the reproduction number (based on data as of early June 2020).

[RandomGuy]

So you're agreeing children under 10 should be back in school as they pose very little risk to infect and spread?

Moving the goalposts, deflecting and misdirecting when the holes in your theories and data are pointed out. Then expecting a direct answer from me, when you yourself show no compunction at all for the same courtesy.

"schools" and "children" become something different when the holes in your understanding of reality are pointed out to you.

Moving on, I do remember that statement, so I need to keep digging, I have not found what I remember reading yet.

[midnightpulp]

COVID-19 in Dutch households

Within a short time frame, RIVM National Institute for Public Health and the Environment set up a study to find out more about people infected with COVID-19 and their family contacts. In cooperation with GGD Utrecht, various families took part in this study. A total of 54 households took part up to mid-April, involving 239 participants, including 185 housemates. In this family-based study, there were no indications found in any of the 54 participating families that a child <12 years old was the source of COVID-19 within the family. The first part of the study has now been completed. The second part of the study is still ongoing. RIVM will be looking at the spread of the virus within families after a diagnosis of COVID-19 in a child. This approach gives us an even better opportunity to investigate how often an infection in children leads to further spread of the virus.

Schools and childcare facilities

Primary schools have been partially reopened since 11 May. The schools reopened fully on 8 June. Childcare facilities are also open again as of that date. Secondary education, special secondary education, practical education and newcomer education reopened on 2 June.

After double-checking with all 25 municipal public health services (GGDs), it has become apparent that there were no reports of possible COVID-19 clusters that had a link to schools or childcare facilities (or temporary childcare) before the schools closed on 16 March. After reopening the primary schools and childcare facilities, a few reports have come in regarding infections among employees at schools; RIVM has not received any reports of employees who were infected by children (based on data as of early June 2020). The reproduction number R, which represents the average number of new infections by a COVID-19 patient, has fluctuated below 1 since mid-March. This means that the spread of the epidemic is slowing down. After the partial reopening of primary schools and childcare facilities on 11 May, there was no sudden increase in the reproduction number (based on data as of early June 2020).

The first thing we do in science is control for environment and variables. I think I would like to see a comparable study from Mexico or Brazil and see how schools fared during the pandemic.

[ChumpDumper]

Masks don't work?Who said masks are 100% effective?

Link it.

Show your math.

[ChumpDumper]

The first thing we do in science is control for environment and variables. I think I would like to see a comparable study from Mexico or Brazil and see how schools fared during the pandemic.When Dutch schools partially reopened their 7-day moving average of new cases was under 300 and trending downward.

I am definitely in favor of partially reopening schools when Texas reaches that level.

[Winehole23]

When Dutch schools partially reopened their 7-day moving average of new cases was under 300 and trending downward
I am definitely in favor of partially reopening schools when Texas reaches that level.Sorry, the plan is to briefly stall the collapse of the economy by making everyone go back to school. Public health won't be allowed to stand in the way of the politically determined timetable.

[tholdren]

Who said masks are 100% effective?

Link it.

Show your math.

How effective are they since you are advising?

[ChumpDumper]

How effective are they since you are advising?f:lolldren folds

[tholdren]

According to your earlier posts, up to 8% of infected kids could infect adults.

We have a lot more infected kids than any country you cited.

Do you see the disconnect in what you're saying?

No please, since you know math and you are citing the amount of kids who could infect adults please share how many kids will get it with masks and transmit with masks.

Or you just throwing out numbers because you dont know how to work that out?

[TSA]

RG thank you for finally putting some work into this. Let us proceed.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7147903/

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/145/6/e20200702

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2762130

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31094-1/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR2jcS4HamY1ybFSJoQnyqeB91MNHdTl lxY_zez2-KtHcT9DOMYjuP2dFA4

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2020/07/08/peds.2020-1576

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/05/04/peds.2020-0961.full.pdf?&utm_campaign=social&utm_source=custom_alert&utm_medium=pediatrics&utm_content=clinical_feautres_covid&utm_term=5_9_20

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa198/5766430

https://adc.bmj.com/content/105/7/618.abstract

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.21.2000903;?crawler=true

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/apa.15371

https://www.phrp.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/PHRP3022007.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7323087/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7311007/

https://ijponline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13052-020-00844-1

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa424/5819060

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature06732

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6498/1481.abstract

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.08.20125484v1

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2766113

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2766114

[ChumpDumper]

No please, since you know math and you are citing the amount of kids who could infect adults please share how many kids will get it with masks and transmit with masks.

Or you just throwing out numbers because you dont know how to work that out?It's their data TSA threw out, not mine.

Where's your math we've been asking you to show for the last month?

[tholdren]

It's their data TSA threw out, not mine.

Where's your math we've been asking you to show for the last month?
So you admit to gossiping. You didn't fact check just wanted to spread around.

Glad you argued yourself into another 180

[ElNono]

Mexican border towns are doing better because no one is going to Mexican border towns to seek better treatment.

https://khn.org/news/covid-19-overwhelms-border-icus/

Of course nobody is going there to seek better treatment, but Mexicans live there all the same. San Diego and Tijuana have just about the same population. Same with Monterrey and San Antonio, etc.

That article mentions a single hospital, which basically makes it anecdotal at this point.

[TSA]

The first thing we do in science is control for environment and variables. I think I would like to see a comparable study from Mexico or Brazil and see how schools fared during the pandemic.

Haven't found anything on Mexico or Brazil but here is China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and UK.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2766114

[RandomGuy]

Dang. I do remember reading it, in an article/interview of some kind.

Closest I could find on my own seemed to dovetail with everything else:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0962-9

Under 10 are almost never transmitting, 10-19 mildly so (based on clinical symptom rate, assumed to mirror transmittableness, 21% at a 95% confidence interval of 12 to 31%)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0962-9

They then go on to point out a very relevant bit of information, and a point I have made here before the models assume that schools close, reducing contacts.

Kids might not transmit at frequent intervals, but even infrequent things happen a lot when you have more chances for those things to happen.

To get around to your earlier question, because I am a better and more honest person than you are:

No. Even young kids should stay home from school. They may almost never transmit it between themselves and/or adults, but if you have tens of millions of them in clusters, day-in and day-out the math on that is pretty clear, it will increase the spread, even if close to zero, simply because of the sheer number of chances you are taking.

In places where the overall case load has gotten under control, I would be moderately comfortable, based on the science about really young kids, but overall, no, especially in hotspots. Given that there are about one adult per 12 pupils in most schools for younger kids, you are still forcing what? 29m/12=2.5m Two point five million adults who can easily spread it in close contact with each other?

[ChumpDumper]

So you admit to gossiping. You didn't fact check just wanted to spread around. :lol TSA's article and link are right there.

Not gossip.

You are not smart and lie about math.

[RandomGuy]

RG thank you for finally putting some work into this. Let us proceed.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7147903/

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/145/6/e20200702

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2762130

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31094-1/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR2jcS4HamY1ybFSJoQnyqeB91MNHdTl lxY_zez2-KtHcT9DOMYjuP2dFA4

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2020/07/08/peds.2020-1576

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/05/04/peds.2020-0961.full.pdf?&utm_campaign=social&utm_source=custom_alert&utm_medium=pediatrics&utm_content=clinical_feautres_covid&utm_term=5_9_20

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa198/5766430

https://adc.bmj.com/content/105/7/618.abstract

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.21.2000903;?crawler=true

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/apa.15371

https://www.phrp.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/PHRP3022007.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7323087/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7311007/

https://ijponline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13052-020-00844-1

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa424/5819060

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature06732

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6498/1481.abstract

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.08.20125484v1

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2766113

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2766114

Another wall of text. Done the work. Not doing more.

I will assume it says the same as the other stuff. Children under 10 are not significant vectors, but still are vectors, and adolescents can much more easily contract and transmit than young kids.

It does not say it is safe for schools to open. You have not met your burden of proof.

[RandomGuy]

When Dutch schools partially reopened their 7-day moving average of new cases was under 300 and trending downward.

I am definitely in favor of partially reopening schools when Texas reaches that level.

Agreed. Trump cultists and the non-mask idiots will keep us from getting there.

[TSA]

Another wall of text. Done the work. Not doing more.

I will assume it says the same as the other stuff. Children under 10 are not significant vectors, but still are vectors, and adolescents can much more easily contract and transmit than young kids.

It does not say it is safe for schools to open. You have not met your burden of proof.

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) presents arguably the greatest public health crisis in living memory. One surprising aspect of this pandemic is that children appear to be infected by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, far less frequently than adults and, when infected, typically have mild symptoms,1–3 although emerging reports of a novel Kawasaki disease–like multisystem inflammatory syndrome necessitate continued surveillance in pediatric patients.4,5 However, a major question remains unanswered: to what extent are children responsible for SARS-CoV-2 transmission? Resolving this issue is central to making informed public health decisions, ranging from how to safely re-open schools, child care facilities, and summer camps down to the precautions needed to obtain a throat culture in an uncooperative child. To date, few published data are available to help guide these decisions.

In this issue of Pediatrics, Posfay-Barbe et al6 report on the dynamics of COVID-19 within families of children with reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction–confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in Geneva, Switzerland. From March 10 to April 10, 2020, all children <16 years of age diagnosed at Geneva University Hospital (N = 40) underwent contact tracing to identify infected household contacts (HHCs). Of 39 evaluable households, in only 3 (8%) was a child the suspected index case, with symptom onset preceding illness in adult HHCs. In all other households, the child developed symptoms after or concurrent with adult HHCs, suggesting that the child was not the source of infection and that children most frequently acquire COVID-19 from adults, rather than transmitting it to them.

These findings are consistent with other recently published HHC investigations in China. Of 68 children with confirmed COVID-19 admitted to Qingdao Women’s and Children’s Hospital from January 20 to February 27, 2020, and with complete epidemiological data, 65 (95.59%) patients were HHCs of previously infected adults.7 Of 10 children hospitalized outside Wuhan, China, in only 1 was there possible child to adult transmission, based on symptom chronology.8 Similarly, transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by children outside household settings seems uncommon, although information is limited. In an intriguing study from France, a 9-year-old boy with respiratory symptoms associated with picornavirus, influenza A, and SARS-CoV-2 coinfection was found to have exposed over 80 classmates at 3 schools; no secondary contacts became infected, despite numerous influenza infections within the schools, suggesting an environment conducive to respiratory virus transmission.9 In New South Wales, Australia, 9 students and 9 staff infected with SARS-CoV-2 across 15 schools had close contact with a total of 735 students and 128 staff.10 Only 2 secondary infections were identified, none in adult staff; 1 student in primary school was potentially infected by a staff member, and 1 student in high school was potentially infected via exposure to 2 infected schoolmates.

On the basis of these data, SARS-CoV-2 transmission in schools may be less important in community transmission than initially feared. This would be another manner by which SARS-CoV-2 differs drastically from influenza, for which school-based transmission is well recognized as a significant driver of epidemic disease and forms the basis for most evidence regarding school closures as public health strategy.11,12 Although 2 reports are far from definitive, the researchers provide early reassurance that school-based transmission could be a manageable problem, and school closures may not have to be a foregone conclusion, particularly for elementary school–aged children who appear to be at the lowest risk of infection. Additional support comes from mathematical models, which find that school closures alone may be insufficient to halt epidemic spread13 and have modest overall impacts compared with broader, community-wide physical distancing measures.14

These data all suggest that children are not significant drivers of the COVID-19 pandemic. It is unclear why documented SARS-CoV-2 transmission from children to other children or adults is so infrequent. In 47 COVID-19–infected German children, nasopharyngeal SARS-CoV-2 viral loads were similar to those in other age groups, raising concern that children could be as infectious as adults.15 Because SARS-CoV-2 infected children are so frequently mildly symptomatic, they may have weaker and less frequent cough, releasing fewer infectious particles into the surrounding environment. Another possibility is that because school closures occurred in most locations along with or before widespread physical distancing orders, most close contacts became limited to households, reducing opportunities for children to become infected in the community and present as index cases.

Almost 6 months into the pandemic, accumulating evidence and collective experience argue that children, particularly school-aged children, are far less important drivers of SARS-CoV-2 transmission than adults. Therefore, serious consideration should be paid toward strategies that allow schools to remain open, even during periods of COVID-19 spread. In doing so, we could minimize the potentially profound adverse social, developmental, and health costs that our children will continue to suffer until an effective treatment or vaccine can be developed and distributed or, failing that, until we reach herd immunity.16,17

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2020/07/08/peds.2020-004879

[ChumpDumper]

Agreed. Trump cultists and the non-mask idiots will keep us from getting there.The last time our 7-day average looked like that was April 1.

[tholdren]

:lol TSA's article and link are right there.

Not gossip.

You are not smart and lie about math.

so again you just passed information without fact checking. That is gossip.

Nice weasel move

[ChumpDumper]

in only 3 (8%) was a child the suspected index case

I don't dispute this number he keeps posting. My concern is that our new case count is proportionally many times that of Switzerland when they reopened and I'm not convinced schools will be set up like theirs.

[ChumpDumper]

so again you just passed information without fact checking.If you have a reason to dispute this published study, let me know.

Why aren't you showing your math?

Nice weasel move.

[Blake]

Show me a study showing children being a high risk of passing it on to other children and adults. Every study done so far proves the opposite.

Tsa just straight lying now. No subtlety at all.

[TSA]

Tsa just straight lying now. No subtlety at all.

Show me a study showing children being a high risk of passing it on to other children and adults. Quip or fold.

[Blake]

Show me a study showing children being a high risk of passing it on to other children and adults. Quip or fold.

I'm not gonna back up your phony claim, lazy dumbfuck.

You don't give one shit about the adults.

[TSA]

I'm not gonna back up your phony claim, lazy dumbfuck.

You don't give one shit about the adults.

Fold it is.

[Blake]

Fold it is.

I don't play logical fallacy games.

[tholdren]

Fold it is.

And namecalling

[Blake]

And namecalling

Yup. You're an idiot.

[tholdren]

Yup. You're an idiot.

You tried to name-call and said ny schools were fully open. How'd that work out?

[Blake]

I'm a liar

[tholdren]

so you are denying you said that?

[boutons_deux]

Texas GOP will stick with virtual convention,

even though federal judge ruled in-person Houston event is an option

The ruling was a striking last-minute development as party officials have struggled to get a virtual gathering underway.

But soon after the ruling, party Chair James Dickey said

the party will continue with its plans for a virtual convention,

saying it would provide the best opportunity for delegates to participate.

Jared Woodfill, an attorney for Houston activist Steve Hotze, who helped file the lawsuit, said Judge Lynn Hughes ruled that the party can hold an in-person convention both this weekend and next weekend — and “that the City of Houston may not interfere with it.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/17/texas-gop-convention-houston/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/17/texas-gop-convention-houston/)

[DMC]

:lol Blake always 25 IQ points behind the discussion, always offers some HS level quip. No wonder he got cucked.

[Blake]

:lol Blake always 25 IQ points behind the discussion, always offers some HS level quip. No wonder he got cucked.

Something nipping at my ankle

[midnightpulp]

(KWTX) - Texas recorded 10,256 new cases of COVID-19 Friday and 174 more deaths, a one-day record,

https://www.kwtx.com/2020/07/17/covid-19-claims-2-more-lives-in-central-texas/

Gossip, th:loldren?

Texas is on a worrying pace to peak at 300 deaths per day.

[DarrinS]

https://www.kwtx.com/2020/07/17/covid-19-claims-2-more-lives-in-central-texas/

Gossip, th:loldren?

Texas is on a worrying pace to peak at 300 deaths per day.


It's getting worse, but we'd have to get more than 10x worse to catch catch NJ and NY.

[ChumpDumper]

Sad when all Texas has to brag about is lower population density and a four month opportunity to get it wrong.

[midnightpulp]

It's getting worse, but we'd have to get more than 10x worse to catch catch NJ and NY.

Do you think "at least we're not New York" is a worthy goal? Texas also doesn't count probables, while New York does. And Texas numerous environmental advantages over New York. Anyway you slice it, Texas failed (the future is already baked in for them).

[midnightpulp]

Sad when all Texas has to brag about is lower population density and a four month opportunity to get it wrong.

Gonna get worse, too. The recent death surge is probably from the highlighted rise in hospitalizations.

https://i.imgur.com/IaLoWzP.png

[DarrinS]

Do you think "at least we're not New York" is a worthy goal? Texas also doesn't count probables, while New York does. And Texas numerous environmental advantages over New York. Anyway you slice it, Texas failed (the future is already baked in for them).

I think things needs a sense of proportion and scale.

That's why it pisses me off that our city reports cumulative case counts for zip codes. And after 300 cases, they just put them in a bucket of 300+. So, a zip code with 301 cases would be considered the same as 10k cases. Not very useful information.

Also, the city dumped some backlog of thousands of positive cases from antigen and "probables" on its dashboard recently.

[midnightpulp]

I think things needs a sense of proportion and scale.

That's why it pisses me off that our city reports cumulative case counts for zip codes. And after 300 cases, they just put them in a bucket of 300+. So, a zip code with 301 cases would be considered the same as 10k cases. Not very useful information.

Also, the city dumped some backlog of thousands of positive cases from antigen and "probables" on its dashboard recently.

Dont worry about the minutiae of data reporting. Just look at the overall trends. Even if the data is inconsistent day to day, it still tells a clear picture over time. See my above graph. You'll see how isomorphic the trends are.

[Blake]

Dont worry about the minutiae of data reporting. Just look at the overall trends. Even if the data is inconsistent day to day, it still tells a clear picture over time. See my above graph. You'll see how isomorphic the trends are.

BOILED DOWN, AT LEAST WE'RE NOT NEW YORK

[DarrinS]

Dont worry about the minutiae of data reporting. Just look at the overall trends. Even if the data is inconsistent day to day, it still tells a clear picture over time. See my above graph. You'll see how isomorphic the trends are.


I agree the tends aren't looking good. But there was pretty low level community transmission up until June.

Can't get the curve down until some unknown threshold of susceptible people are infected, tho.

[DarrinS]

BOILED DOWN, AT LEAST WE'RE NOT NEW YORK

Hi

[DarrinS]

Gonna get worse, too. The recent death surge is probably from the highlighted rise in hospitalizations.



No doubt

[DarrinS]

Dont worry about the minutiae of data reporting. Just look at the overall trends. Even if the data is inconsistent day to day, it still tells a clear picture over time. See my above graph. You'll see how isomorphic the trends are.


They could be giving us very granular data per zip code, but have decided NOT to do so. I don't understand why.

[midnightpulp]

I agree the tends aren't looking good. But there was pretty low level community transmission up until June.

Can't get the curve down until some unknown threshold of susceptible people are infected, tho.

Texas was sheltering in place pretty well. Scroll down.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

About 40-50 percent reduced mobility from late March til Late April, which made May's growth curve look good. And throughout the first half of May, still around 30 percent reduced. But then we see it creeping up and reaching 20 percent reduced by the first week of June. When you factor in complacency due to social distancing fatigue (when this first started, people were avoiding each other like it was the plague. Not so anymore) + hotter weather driving people indoors + exponential growth = the current situation.

[Blake]

I agree the tends aren't looking good. But there was pretty low level community transmission up until June.

Can't get the curve down until some unknown threshold of susceptible people are infected, tho.

If people can get infected twice, your herd immunity theory is bunk.

But you'll keep pushing it because YouTube told you

[Blake]

Texas was sheltering in place pretty well. Scroll down.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

About 40-50 percent reduced mobility from late March til Late April, which made May's growth curve look good. And throughout the first half of May, still around 30 percent reduced. But then we see it creeping up and reaching 20 percent reduced by the first week of June. When you factor in complacency due to social distancing fatigue (when this first started, people were avoiding each other like it was the plague. Not so anymore) + hotter weather driving people indoors + exponential growth = the current situation.

Interesting that the colder weather also drives people inside. Sounds like our foreseeable lulls may come when the weather is pleasant.

[DarrinS]

If people can get infected twice, your herd immunity theory is bunk.

But you'll keep pushing it because YouTube told you


You love the idea of no immunity. Such a pessimist.

[ChumpDumper]

I agree the tends aren't looking good. But there was pretty low level community transmission up until June.

Can't get the curve down until some unknown threshold of susceptible people are infected, tho.I guess we might be at that point where we just have to wait for enough people to die.

I don't think other countries threw in the towel like that.

[TSA]

You love the idea of no immunity. Such a pessimist.

He read an article on Vox where this one doctor had one patient :lol

[DarrinS]

I guess we might be at that point where we just have to wait for enough people to die.

I don't think other countries threw in the towel like that.


I was told we needed to flatten the curve. Did we do that?

If the goal was to make case counts to go zero until a vaccine was available, then we failed miserably.

Again, I say compare the curve for TX to NY on covid.heatlthdata.org for some perspective.

I don't think Abbott will be making artwork of Texas' "death mountain", like Cuomo has.

[ChumpDumper]

I was told we needed to flatten the curve. Did we do that?Yes.

Then we gave up.

You need to quit using New York as an excuse for our failure.

[DarrinS]

Yes.

Then we gave up.

You need to quit using New York as an excuse for our failure.


Not an excuse. Perspective on the current hysteria.

Our curve is almost nonexistent compared to theirs.

We are stressed, but coping.

[ChumpDumper]

Not an excuse. Perspective on the current hysteria.

Our curve is almost nonexistent compared to theirs.

We are stressed, but coping.There you go again....

It's pretty pathetic at this point.

[DarrinS]

A county that goes from 1 to 5 cases, has a 400% increase in cases.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you make yourself feel better doing this?

[DarrinS]

Do you make yourself feel better doing this?

I try to see if the hype comports with reality.

[ChumpDumper]

I try to see if the hype comports with reality.You certainly hype up the situation in New York.

[midnightpulp]

I was told we needed to flatten the curve. Did we do that?

If the goal was to make case counts to go zero until a vaccine was available, then we failed miserably.

Again, I say compare the curve for TX to NY on covid.heatlthdata.org for some perspective.

I don't think Abbott will be making artwork of Texas' "death mountain", like Cuomo has.

Flattening the curve means keeping it flat. It's not a license to yolo it once you've bent the curve.

As for the bolded, not sure why you're framing this as some competition? I posted a thread months ago showing the differences of how respiratory illnesses affect New Yorkers more severely vs. less dense populated warm weather states like FL, CA, and TX. Furthermore, New York counts probable deaths while Texas doesn't.

What I'm sure is frustrating many Texans ITT is that Texas had the curve crushed. But they had no plan on how to open and how to mitigate. No comprehensive test-and-trace program in place. No state wide mask ordinance. No phased reopening strategy. Bars and churches and indoor simultaneously opened with everything else. Turning dipshits like Shelly Luther into freedumb martyrs which I'm sure inspired many more to buck authority. And now we're seeing the results of all that.

Texas could've been a New Zealand or Australia.

[tholdren]

Do you make yourself feel better doing this?

Chumpdump sealioning for years and claims to not be a troll

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump sealioning for years and claims to not be a trollth:lolldren claims to know math.

Shows no math.

[tholdren]

Flattening the curve means keeping it flat. It's not a license to yolo it once you've bent the curve.

As for the bolded, not sure why you're framing this as some competition? I posted a thread months ago showing the differences of how respiratory illnesses affect New Yorkers more severely vs. less dense populated warm weather states like FL, CA, and TX. Furthermore, New York counts probable deaths while Texas doesn't.

What I'm sure is frustrating many Texans ITT is that Texas had the curve crushed. But they had no plan on how to open and how to mitigate. No comprehensive test-and-trace program in place. No state wide mask ordinance. No phased reopening strategy. Bars and churches and indoor simultaneously opened with everything else. Turning dipshits like Shelly Luther into freedumb martyrs which I'm sure inspired many more to buck authority. And now we're seeing the results of all that.

Texas could've been a New Zealand or Australia.

This is literally the worst post of all time.

[DarrinS]

Flattening the curve means keeping it flat. It's not a license to yolo it once you've bent the curve.

As for the bolded, not sure why you're framing this as some competition? I posted a thread months ago showing the differences of how respiratory illnesses affect New Yorkers more severely vs. less dense populated warm weather states like FL, CA, and TX. Furthermore, New York counts probable deaths while Texas doesn't.

What I'm sure is frustrating many Texans ITT is that Texas had the curve crushed. But they had no plan on how to open and how to mitigate. No comprehensive test-and-trace program in place. No state wide mask ordinance. No phased reopening strategy. Bars and churches and indoor simultaneously opened with everything else. Turning dipshits like Shelly Luther into freedumb martyrs which I'm sure inspired many more to buck authority. And now we're seeing the results of all that.

Texas could've been a New Zealand or Australia.



There's plenty to criticize, but the current hysteria around southern states (and CA), need to be put into perspective.

[midnightpulp]

There's plenty to criticize, but the current hysteria around southern states (and CA), need to be put into perspective.

"At least we're not New York" isn't a good perspective. Remember when we considered Italy Armageddon? NY and NJ had nearly 3x the death rate as Italy. You're not so much as putting things into perspective as you are desensitized because NY and NJ had the worst outbreak in the entire world.

[DarrinS]

Also, is anyone paying attention to the demographics of cases? Is San Antonio only 16% white? Because, that's the percentage of cases. 74% hispanic

[midnightpulp]

Also, is anyone paying attention to the demographics of cases? Is San Antonio only 16% white? Because, that's the percentage of cases. 74% hispanic

:lol why should that matter?

[DarrinS]

"At least we're not New York" isn't a good perspective. Remember when we considered Italy Armageddon? NY and NJ had nearly 3x the death rate as Italy. You're not so much as putting things into perspective as you are desensitized because NY and NJ had the worst outbreak in the entire world.

What should we (Texans) compare our situation to?

[DarrinS]

:lol why should that matter?

It probably matters to people trying to track the outbreak. Do people with European ancestry have more immunity to covid-19?

[ChumpDumper]

What should we (Texans) compare our situation to?Texas.

[midnightpulp]

What should we (Texans) compare our situation to?

That's the wrong way to look at it. By hook or by crook, Texas was probably doing the best in US from the start to around early June. With proper solutions in place, Texas could've kept the spread in check and had a relatively open economy. But Abbott and Co. went 0-60 with reopening. Newsom did the same thing here, but he shutdown bars, indoor dining, hair salons, etc again. Abbott won't commit to anything because he seems to live in fantasy land.

[ChumpDumper]

It probably matters to people trying to track the outbreak. Do people with European ancestry have more immunity to covid-19?I chalk it mainly up to lebensraum and work/lifestyle options.

[midnightpulp]

It probably matters to people trying to track the outbreak. Do people with European ancestry have more immunity to covid-19?

No. Because Latinos typically live in multigen households and/or in crowded households and make up a decent percentage of essential workers, while whites have jobs that can be done from home.

[tholdren]

"At least we're not New York" isn't a good perspective. Remember when we considered Italy Armageddon? NY and NJ had nearly 3x the death rate as Italy. You're not so much as putting things into perspective as you are desensitized because NY and NJ had the worst outbreak in the entire world.

Only because the gov sent infected people to congregate living..then blamed on others

[DarrinS]

No. Because Latinos typically live in multigen households and/or in crowded households and make up a decent percentage of essential workers, while whites have jobs that can be done from home.


You bring up a good point, but I'm sure there are a decent percentage of whites in the medical field.

I'm specifically thinking of health problems and vit-D deficiency in minority communities.

[Winehole23]

Nueces County related

https://www.kiiitv.com/article/news/local/watch-live-city-of-corpus-christi-nueces-county-officials-join-tamucc-to-provide-covid-19-updates-in-the-coastal-bend/503-55e9ab3a-9bef-496f-8bb4-8c9ec20ee3a3

[DarrinS]

Nueces County related

https://www.kiiitv.com/article/news/local/watch-live-city-of-corpus-christi-nueces-county-officials-join-tamucc-to-provide-covid-19-updates-in-the-coastal-bend/503-55e9ab3a-9bef-496f-8bb4-8c9ec20ee3a3



Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

[ChumpDumper]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity."probably"

[Blake]

You love the idea of no immunity. Such a pessimist.

Stupid.

[Blake]

I was told we needed to flatten the curve. Did we do that?

If the goal was to make case counts to go zero until a vaccine was available, then we failed miserably.

Again, I say compare the curve for TX to NY on covid.heatlthdata.org for some perspective.

I don't think Abbott will be making artwork of Texas' "death mountain", like Cuomo has.

Again whataboutnewyork

[DarrinS]

"probably"

That's the term you use when you don't know "exactly" .

[Winehole23]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.Ok, Dr. Darrin

[ChumpDumper]

when you don't know

[baseline bum]

Texas was sheltering in place pretty well. Scroll down.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

About 40-50 percent reduced mobility from late March til Late April, which made May's growth curve look good. And throughout the first half of May, still around 30 percent reduced. But then we see it creeping up and reaching 20 percent reduced by the first week of June. When you factor in complacency due to social distancing fatigue (when this first started, people were avoiding each other like it was the plague. Not so anymore) + hotter weather driving people indoors + exponential growth = the current situation.

The Balous Miller Strike Force got restaurant dining rooms opened up on May 1st at 25% capacity, but there was no enforcement so the capacity was really just a suggestion and it was 100% capacity for any restaurant in the state that wanted to do so. It was funny too because the right wing posters here were claiming victory because we weren't New York two weeks later. I think it's just a case of exponential growth being really slow at first from a small seed. Same thing when everyone upstairs was saying it's only 50 deaths right before New York, New Orleans, and Detroit blew up. But the huge jumpstart seemed to be bars in late May. They were opened immediately at 100% capacity. Technically only 50% capacity, but that was really just voluntary and when Austin tried to shut down two bars over capacity and those bars sued the city, the state of Texas told Austin to go fuck their mothers some more. So no enforcement = 100% capacity.

[Trainwreck2100]

The Balous Miller Strike Force got restaurant dining rooms opened up on May 1st at 25% capacity, but there was no enforcement so the capacity was really just a suggestion and it was 100% capacity for any restaurant in the state that wanted to do so. It was funny too because the right wing posters here were claiming victory because we weren't New York two weeks later. I think it's just a case of exponential growth being really slow at first from a small seed. Same thing when everyone upstairs was saying it's only 50 deaths right before New York, New Orleans, and Detroit blew up. But the huge jumpstart seemed to be bars in late May. They were opened immediately at 100% capacity. Technically only 50% capacity, but that was really just voluntary and when Austin tried to shut down two bars over capacity and those bars sued the city, the state of Texas told Austin to go fuck their mothers some more. So no enforcement = 100% capacity.

I don't really think it was the restaurants, it was the bars, and the memorial day celebrations that came after.

[Blake]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

Brazos County related


.......Dr. Kia Parsi, the Chief Medical Officer for CHI St. Joseph Regional Health.

Parsi said officials hope to have herd immunity for coronavirus in the future. But he says there’s still more about the virus we need to figure out before that happens.

”It’s either enough of the population has been infected or enough of the population has been immunized to prevent infection. The truth is we don’t know for sure if being previously infected with COVID-19 develops enough of an immunity to create this herd immunity effect,” said Parsi......

https://www.kbtx.com/2020/07/08/brazos-county-judge-medical-experts-talks-about-impact-of-herd-immunity-for-covid-19/

The truth doesn't care about your "optimism"

[Blake]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

Brazos County related


.......Dr. Kia Parsi, the Chief Medical Officer for CHI St. Joseph Regional Health.

Parsi said officials hope to have herd immunity for coronavirus in the future. But he says there’s still more about the virus we need to figure out before that happens.

”It’s either enough of the population has been infected or enough of the population has been immunized to prevent infection. The truth is we don’t know for sure if being previously infected with COVID-19 develops enough of an immunity to create this herd immunity effect,” said Parsi......

https://www.kbtx.com/2020/07/08/brazos-county-judge-medical-experts-talks-about-impact-of-herd-immunity-for-covid-19/

The truth doesn't care about your "optimism"

[Blake]

The Balous Miller Strike Force got restaurant dining rooms opened up on May 1st at 25% capacity, but there was no enforcement so the capacity was really just a suggestion and it was 100% capacity for any restaurant in the state that wanted to do so. It was funny too because the right wing posters here were claiming victory because we weren't New York two weeks later. I think it's just a case of exponential growth being really slow at first from a small seed. Same thing when everyone upstairs was saying it's only 50 deaths right before New York, New Orleans, and Detroit blew up. But the huge jumpstart seemed to be bars in late May. They were opened immediately at 100% capacity. Technically only 50% capacity, but that was really just voluntary and when Austin tried to shut down two bars over capacity and those bars sued the city, the state of Texas told Austin to go fuck their mothers some more. So no enforcement = 100% capacity.

Shit even today they're screeching "at least we're not gonna reach New York numbers"

[RandomGuy]

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) presents arguably the greatest public health crisis in living memory. One surprising aspect of this pandemic is that children appear to be infected by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, far less frequently than adults and, when infected, typically have mild symptoms,1–3 although emerging reports of a novel Kawasaki disease–like multisystem inflammatory syndrome necessitate continued surveillance in pediatric patients.4,5 However, a major question remains unanswered: to what extent are children responsible for SARS-CoV-2 transmission? Resolving this issue is central to making informed public health decisions, ranging from how to safely re-open schools, child care facilities, and summer camps down to the precautions needed to obtain a throat culture in an uncooperative child. To date, few published data are available to help guide these decisions.

In this issue of Pediatrics, Posfay-Barbe et al6 report on the dynamics of COVID-19 within families of children with reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction–confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in Geneva, Switzerland. From March 10 to April 10, 2020, all children <16 years of age diagnosed at Geneva University Hospital (N = 40) underwent contact tracing to identify infected household contacts (HHCs). Of 39 evaluable households, in only 3 (8%) was a child the suspected index case, with symptom onset preceding illness in adult HHCs. In all other households, the child developed symptoms after or concurrent with adult HHCs, suggesting that the child was not the source of infection and that children most frequently acquire COVID-19 from adults, rather than transmitting it to them.

These findings are consistent with other recently published HHC investigations in China. Of 68 children with confirmed COVID-19 admitted to Qingdao Women’s and Children’s Hospital from January 20 to February 27, 2020, and with complete epidemiological data, 65 (95.59%) patients were HHCs of previously infected adults.7 Of 10 children hospitalized outside Wuhan, China, in only 1 was there possible child to adult transmission, based on symptom chronology.8 Similarly, transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by children outside household settings seems uncommon, although information is limited. In an intriguing study from France, a 9-year-old boy with respiratory symptoms associated with picornavirus, influenza A, and SARS-CoV-2 coinfection was found to have exposed over 80 classmates at 3 schools; no secondary contacts became infected, despite numerous influenza infections within the schools, suggesting an environment conducive to respiratory virus transmission.9 In New South Wales, Australia, 9 students and 9 staff infected with SARS-CoV-2 across 15 schools had close contact with a total of 735 students and 128 staff.10 Only 2 secondary infections were identified, none in adult staff; 1 student in primary school was potentially infected by a staff member, and 1 student in high school was potentially infected via exposure to 2 infected schoolmates.

On the basis of these data, SARS-CoV-2 transmission in schools may be less important in community transmission than initially feared. This would be another manner by which SARS-CoV-2 differs drastically from influenza, for which school-based transmission is well recognized as a significant driver of epidemic disease and forms the basis for most evidence regarding school closures as public health strategy.11,12 Although 2 reports are far from definitive, the researchers provide early reassurance that school-based transmission could be a manageable problem, and school closures may not have to be a foregone conclusion, particularly for elementary school–aged children who appear to be at the lowest risk of infection. Additional support comes from mathematical models, which find that school closures alone may be insufficient to halt epidemic spread13 and have modest overall impacts compared with broader, community-wide physical distancing measures.14

These data all suggest that children are not significant drivers of the COVID-19 pandemic. It is unclear why documented SARS-CoV-2 transmission from children to other children or adults is so infrequent. In 47 COVID-19–infected German children, nasopharyngeal SARS-CoV-2 viral loads were similar to those in other age groups, raising concern that children could be as infectious as adults.15 Because SARS-CoV-2 infected children are so frequently mildly symptomatic, they may have weaker and less frequent cough, releasing fewer infectious particles into the surrounding environment. Another possibility is that because school closures occurred in most locations along with or before widespread physical distancing orders, most close contacts became limited to households, reducing opportunities for children to become infected in the community and present as index cases.

Almost 6 months into the pandemic, accumulating evidence and collective experience argue that children, particularly school-aged children, are far less important drivers of SARS-CoV-2 transmission than adults. Therefore, serious consideration should be paid toward strategies that allow schools to remain open, even during periods of COVID-19 spread. In doing so, we could minimize the potentially profound adverse social, developmental, and health costs that our children will continue to suffer until an effective treatment or vaccine can be developed and distributed or, failing that, until we reach herd immunity.16,17

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2020/07/08/peds.2020-004879

tldr.

I assume it says that children don't transmit much, and fails to talk about adolescents, like all your other materials, you disingenuous fuck.

You have failed to meet your burden of proof.

Remember, bootlick, the white house says science shouldn't stand the way, so I don't see why you working so hard. You have your marching orders. Ignore the science.

[Blake]

tldr.

I assume it says that children don't transmit much, and fails to talk about adolescents, like all your other materials.

You have failed to meet your burden of proof.

BUT HE'S POSTED SO MUCH TEXT

[RandomGuy]

BUT HE'S POSTED SO MUCH TEXT

But look at all the links!!!!

Fuck man. He does shit like that all the time. He tried it once to show how much of a stand Trump was taking against Putin, and I got about five links down in a bunch of weak sauces and stopped.

This shit is no different.

He is desperate to spin for this master. It is kinda creepy. Ima call him Reek from now on.

[Blake]

But look at all the links!!!!

Fuck man. He does shit like that all the time. He tried it once to show how much of a stand Trump was taking against Putin, and I got about five links down in a bunch of weak sauces and stopped.

This shit is no different.

He is desperate to spin for this master. It is kinda creepy. Ima call him Reek from now on.

PROVE ALL THOSE LINKS WRONG!

[Blake]

"AUSTIN (KXAN) — On Friday, Texas reported a record 174 new coronavirus deaths. The state is now averaging over 100 COVID-19 deaths a day, and researchers warn those daily death numbers are expected to continue to climb.

“The way these trends work is cases will increase, then hospitalizations, and then mortality,” explained Dr. Spencer Fox, Associate Director of the University of Texas at Austin COVID-19 Modeling Consortium..."

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/covid-19-death-numbers-expected-to-significantly-increase-in-texas-mortuary-trucks-dispatched-as-preventive-measure/

[Blake]

"A month before Houston-area schools plan to reopen in August, scientists still do not know the role children play in spreading the disease — and the risk they and their teachers will assume when they return to campus.

“The reality is, we won’t know until we put large numbers of kids close together again,” said Dr. Michael Chang, a pediatric infectious disease specialist with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth. “Our knowledge about the virus is constantly changing. We’re still learning new things every day.”

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/education/article/kid-spread-covid-schools-texas-reopen-cases-fall-15408806.php


Yeah but what about that one study in Sweden back in April that said it's cool to open school

[TheGreatYacht]

”In 4 months, the U.S. transformed into an obedient socialist country. Government dictated what events are acceptable to attend. Violent protests that instill fear are OK but church services, family funerals and patriotic celebrations are dangerous. And you bought it without a fight.

Standing in a graduation line is a "safety hazard". Small businesses were forced to close but crowds to support the corporate money machine at WalMart, Lowes and Home Depot are OK.

Come on. It's "just a mask" & "safety precautions".

How about a little hush money. Here's $2,400 that we stole out of your pay check in the first place. Enjoy. Buy something with it. From a big corporation.

Cash is dirty. We can't give change. There's a coin shortage. Use your card. In 4 months, they convinced you to use a traceable card for everything.

In less than 4 months, government closed public schools then "restructured" education under the guise of "public safety". In less than 4 months, our government demonstrated how easily people assimilate to "guidelines" that have NO scientific premise whatsoever when you are fearful.

In less than 4 months, our government successfully instilled fear in a majority of the population in America that allows them to control every aspect of your life. Including what you eat, where you go, who you see and your toilet paper.

And the most dangerous and terrifying part? People are not afraid of the government who removed their freedom. They're afraid of their neighbors, family and friends.

And they hate those who won't comply.

It's absolutely terrifying to me that so many people don't question "authority". They are willing to surrender their critical thinking skills and independence. They just... gave up without thinking. Without a fight.

Do you know what's coming next?
"It's just a vaccine. Come on. It's for the greater good".

Wait until you're told that you can't enter any store or business without proof of the Covid-19 vaccine. Wait until you can't go to public events or get on a plane without proof of receiving the vaccine.

To everyone that doesn't believe this is possible - DO YOU UNDERSTAND that government successfully dictated to people WHEN they were allowed to be outside, where they were allowed to go, and how their children would be educated in less than 4 months? And that a majority of the population followed blindly because they were told to do so.

You're kidding yourself if you think this behavior won't be repeated with a vaccine. Or whatever the next step is.

"I don't follow politics."
"Who cares about that stuff?"
"I don't like to think about it."

They got you. Without a thought. Without a fight. Just like France. Just like Russia. Just like China. Welcome, comrade”.

https://i.ibb.co/TmTY97Z/FB-IMG-1595067018410.jpg

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1284452623450615813?s=19

[tholdren]

Daily cases are not daily

[boutons_deux]

"A month before Houston-area schools plan to reopen in August, scientists still do not know the role children play in spreading the disease — and the risk they and their teachers will assume when they return to campus.

“The reality is, we won’t know until we put large numbers of kids close together again,” said Dr. Michael Chang, a pediatric infectious disease specialist with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth. “Our knowledge about the virus is constantly changing. We’re still learning new things every day.”

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/education/article/kid-spread-covid-schools-texas-reopen-cases-fall-15408806.php


Yeah but what about that one study in Sweden back in April that said it's cool to open school

not only children in K-12, but HS 13 - 18 years old

[tholdren]

not only children in K-12, but HS 13 - 18 years old

This has already been done throughout the world.qay to keep up

[Blake]

I'm a habitual liar

[tholdren]

Lol blake thinks no other people in the world have gone to school during or after their country has had coronavirus cases.

Lololooloooloookookoll

[Blake]

I'm a horrible liar.

[Blake]

"North Texas federal prison has more than 1,000 inmates with COVID-19, one of whom has died from the virus, NBC News reports.

According to the report, the Federal Correctional Institute at Seagoville has 1,798 inmates total and at least 1,072 have tested positive for coronavirus.

One inmate, 65-year-old James Giannetta, died Thursday after testing positive June 26, NBC reports. He experienced shortness of breath and spent time on a ventilator. He reportedly had pre-existing conditions. Giannetta was in prison on a drug charge and a conspiracy to launder money charge. ..."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507931-1000-inmates-at-texas-federal-prison-test-positive-for-covid-19

Death penalty for that dude.

That's roughly 60% that have it. But hey the kids at school will be ok. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Daily cases are not dailyYou are not smart.

[Will Hunting]

"North Texas federal prison has more than 1,000 inmates with COVID-19, one of whom has died from the virus, NBC News reports.

According to the report, the Federal Correctional Institute at Seagoville has 1,798 inmates total and at least 1,072 have tested positive for coronavirus.

One inmate, 65-year-old James Giannetta, died Thursday after testing positive June 26, NBC reports. He experienced shortness of breath and spent time on a ventilator. He reportedly had pre-existing conditions. Giannetta was in prison on a drug charge and a conspiracy to launder money charge. ..."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507931-1000-inmates-at-texas-federal-prison-test-positive-for-covid-19

Death penalty for that dude.

That's roughly 60% that have it. But hey the kids at school will be ok. :tu
For purely selfish reasons, I almost want schools to reopen due to demands from Trump. We’d see an even more rapid COVID-19 surge in August/September/October as kids go home everyday and give it to their parents, it all but ensures Trump loses in a landslide and the Dems take the senate.

[baseline bum]

For purely selfish reasons, I almost want schools to reopen due to demands from Trump. We’d see an even more rapid COVID-19 surge in August/September/October as kids go home everyday and give it to their parents, it all but ensures Trump loses in a landslide and the Dems take the senate.

Or maybe it scares the left away from in person voting since they realize what a dangerous virus this is while the right who thinks this is a hoax shows up in droves. It's one thing for Biden to poll ten points ahead, it's another for those voters worried about catching SARSCov-2 to actually show up to vote around a ton of other people so that he'd actually win the vote by ten points.

[Will Hunting]

Or maybe it scares the left away from in person voting since they realize what a dangerous virus this is while the right who thinks this is a hoax shows up in droves. It's one thing for Biden to poll ten points ahead, it's another for those voters worried about catching SARSCov-2 to actually show up to vote around a ton of other people so that he'd actually win the vote by ten points.
No doubt, but I think his polling lead could widen to 15 points if things continue to get worse, which might be what he needs to win on Election Day.

im still hopefully that a Democratic Governor in Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina does a lot to help voter turnout this time around. Most of Arizona already votes by mail either way so that state shouldn’t be impacted too much.

[tholdren]

For purely selfish reasons, I almost want schools to reopen due to demands from Trump. We’d see an even more rapid COVID-19 surge in August/September/October as kids go home everyday and give it to their parents, it all but ensures Trump loses in a landslide and the Dems take the senate.

This is gossip.

[Blake]

i gossip.

[tholdren]

You still mad because you thought nyc was opening all school instead of two different schools for everyone?

[ChumpDumper]

You still mad because you thought nyc was opening all school instead of two different schools for everyone?:lol you're still lying about that.

[tholdren]

:lol you're still lying about that.
Sealion back for more? Tell us about sweden. No lockdown no masks yet the virus isn't spreading..... they need more tests right?

[ChumpDumper]

Sealion back for more? Tell us about sweden.:lmao trying to change the subject from your lying.

Sad.

[tholdren]

:lmao trying to change the subject from your lying.

Sad.

Sealion response

[DarrinS]

For purely selfish reasons, I almost want schools to reopen due to demands from Trump. We’d see an even more rapid COVID-19 surge in August/September/October as kids go home everyday and give it to their parents, it all but ensures Trump loses in a landslide and the Dems take the senate.

This is such an odd take.

I'd gladly vote for Biden, if I knew it meant defeating Chinese lung AIDS and getting back to normal.

[ChumpDumper]

Sealion responseIt's the truth. You tried to change the subject from your lying. Now you're trying to change the subject to me.

You're very sensitive about your lying.

My advice is for you to stop lying.

[ChumpDumper]

This is such an odd take.

I'd gladly vote for Biden, if I knew it meant defeating Chinese lung AIDS and getting back to normal.You're going to vote for Trump for no reason at all.

[tholdren]

This is such an odd take.

I'd gladly vote for Biden, if I knew it meant defeating Chinese lung AIDS and getting back to normal.

? Why would a vote for either party solve the not a pandemic?
Vuruses aren't political. Only people are.

[Blake]

You still mad because you thought nyc was opening all school instead of two different schools for everyone?

More gossip

[Blake]

This is such an odd take.

I'd gladly vote for Biden, if I knew it meant defeating Chinese lung AIDS and getting back to normal.

But you don't know so you'll stay with the status quo

[tholdren]

But you don't know so you'll stay with the status quo

You said ny was fully opening schools

[ChumpDumper]

You said ny was fully opening schoolsWrong. You lie.

[Spurtacular]

But you don't know so you'll stay with the status quo

Poor cuckold. He's not going for your zombie rapist who you were ordered to vote for.

[tholdren]

Chumpdump switch your account when trying to post as blake

[Blake]

You said ny was fully opening schools

You're a very bizarre dude.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump switch your account when trying to post as blakeWrong.

[Blake]

Chumpdump switch your account when trying to post as blake

More gossip

[tholdren]

You're a very bizarre dude.

thats better ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

thats better ChumpDumperWrong.

[Blake]

I'm a blatant liar

[tholdren]

lol two computer ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

lol two computer ChumpDumperWrong.

[tholdren]

Irony blake using quotes about someone else to lie

[ChumpDumper]

IronyWrong.

[tholdren]

sea lion ChumpDumper can't stand if he doesn't get that last word in.

[DarrinS]

You're going to vote for Trump for no reason at all.

Didn't vote for him last time.

[Blake]

sea lion ChumpDumper can't stand if he doesn't get that last word in.

Gossip

[Blake]

Didn't vote for him last time.

Don't buy that but so?

[Blake]

I lie

[tholdren]

Blake was one of the college kids that demanded a day off of school when trump was elected

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't vote for him last time.Hearing a lot of that these days.

You're still a Trump supporter.

[Blake]

Blake was one of the college kids that demanded a day off of school when trump was elected

Housewife level gossip

[tholdren]

Housewife level gossip

bwahahahhahahahhahahaha nlake said ny would open all schools and namecalled people who said otherwise. Now here he is. Lololol

[Blake]

bwahahahhahahahhahahaha nlake said ny would open all schools and namecalled people who said otherwise. Now here he is. Lololol

Lying meltdown

[baseline bum]

Blake was one of the college kids that demanded a day off of school when trump was elected

Are you one of those retards that throws your groceries on the ground when Walmart won't let you check out without a mask on?

[Will Hunting]

This is such an odd take.

I'd gladly vote for Biden, if I knew it meant defeating Chinese lung AIDS and getting back to normal.
Instead you’ll vote for the candidate who made it so the US handled COVID-19 worse than any other industrialized country has.

[tholdren]

Instead you’ll vote for the candidate who made it so the US handled COVID-19 worse than any other industrialized country has.

Which ones are you referring?

[tholdren]

Are you one of those retards that throws your groceries on the ground when Walmart won't let you check out without a mask on?

Calling names doesn't make up for your lack of math.

Remember when you didn't understand how lag in death counts meant that daily death counts are not actually deaths that happened that day?

That was hilarious.

[tholdren]

Calling names doesn't make up for your lack of math.

Remember when you didn't understand how lag in death counts meant that daily death counts are not actually deaths that happened that day?

That was hilarious.

[Monostradamus]

Instead you’ll vote for the candidate who made it so the US handled COVID-19 worse than any other industrialized country has.
And then pretend like he didn’t vote for Trump when he posts here, because he’s too big a pussy to even admit it to internet randoms :lmao He might even call him Drumpf!

[Monostradamus]

https://i.postimg.cc/vTXBXt4s/8-DF037-F0-BD89-4-EA9-A94-D-97-A79-F0-D8766.jpg

[baseline bum]

Calling names doesn't make up for your lack of math.

Remember when you didn't understand how lag in death counts meant that daily death counts are not actually deaths that happened that day?

That was hilarious.

Remember when you said all you had to do was wash your hands to not get COVID and that 140,000 COVID deaths were from motorcycles and other assorted shit.

[tholdren]

Remember when you said all you had to do was wash your hands to not get COVID and that 140,000 COVID deaths were from motorcycles and other assorted shit.

Remember thats all the nordic countries said too? Worked for them

[baseline bum]

Remember thats all the nordic countries said too? Worked for them

Not too well for us with 140,000+ dead.

[ElNono]

Calling names doesn't make up for your lack of math.

Remember when you didn't understand how lag in death counts meant that daily death counts are not actually deaths that happened that day?

That was hilarious.

gossip

[ElNono]

Instead you’ll vote for the candidate who made it so the US handled COVID-19 worse than any other industrialized country has.

He thought about voting for old Joe, tbh... but 140k+ deaths not quite the bar to hop over the fence yet...

[baseline bum]

Instead you’ll vote for the candidate who made it so the US handled COVID-19 worse than any other industrialized country has.

You didn't like the way he had the states bid against each other for PPE and then came and stole their shit anyways?

[Winehole23]

McAllen, Texas, USA

1283976325204566016

[Blake]

McAllen, Texas, USA

1283976325204566016

The people that cry about wearing masks and/or saying this just like flu no big deal piss me off even more when I see stuff like this

[tholdren]

The people that cry about wearing masks and/or saying this just like flu no big deal piss me off even more when I see stuff like this

blake you ran from your last thread fail

[baseline bum]

blake you ran from your last thread fail

That hospital looks like it's in great shape huh?

[Blake]

blake you ran from your last thread fail

Link the thread, liar

[Blake]

That hospital looks like it's in great shape huh?

NOT AT CAPACITY PLENTY OF FREEZER TRUCKS AVAILABLE

[DMC]

McAllen, Texas, USA

1283976325204566016

Seems most of those people are black. McAllen has a very small black population, less than 1%. Guess they could be really dark Hispanics.

[ChumpDumper]

McAllen, Texas, USA

1283976325204566016Damn.

[Blake]

Seems most of those people are black. McAllen has a very small black population, less than 1%. Guess they could be really dark Hispanics.

Is there something important in this observation or is talking off topic about skin color just your thing

[DMC]

McAllen, Texas, USA

1283976325204566016


The people that cry about wearing masks and/or saying this just like flu no big deal piss me off even more when I see stuff like this


Seems most of those people are black. McAllen has a very small black population, less than 1%. Guess they could be really dark Hispanics.


Damn.


Is there something important in this observation or is talking off topic about skin color just your thing

:lol

Video is from Mexico

Stupid fucking liberal sheep

Winehole23, inebriated propaganda machine... Boutons Trois

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

Video is from Mexico

Stupid fucking liberal sheep

Winehole23, inebriated propaganda machine... Boutons TroisWhat part of "Damn" is sheep? From what I've read, the valley has some rooms/beds but not enough staff to attend them.

[DarrinS]

:lol

Video is from Mexico

Stupid fucking liberal sheep

Winehole23, inebriated propaganda machine... Boutons Trois


Can't believe they thought that was an American hospital. :lol

[DMC]

What part of "Damn" is sheep?

You believed it

:lol

Run.. fast as you can

[DMC]

Can't believe they thought that was an American hospital. :lol

They wanted to believe it. Anything leading up to November.

[ChumpDumper]

You believed itI guess if you have to laugh at the people in that ward....OK.

I said "Damn."

[boutons_deux]

What part of "Damn" is sheep? From what I've read, the valley has some rooms/beds but not enough staff to attend them.

And Trash/Miller have blocked visas for foreign nurses and doctors to pander to the cult mob xenophobia/nativism

[ChumpDumper]

They wanted to believe it. Anything leading up to November.You believe Trump is doing a good job.

[midnightpulp]

They wanted to believe it. Anything leading up to November.

Why do we need to believe it? Mexico is actually handling their outbreak better than the US :lol

[boutons_deux]

Pandemic And Protests Spark Record Gun Sales
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/16/891608244/protests-and-pandemic-spark-record-gun-sales (https://www.npr.org/2020/07/16/891608244/protests-and-pandemic-spark-record-gun-sales?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20200719&utm_term=4684721&utm_campaign=best-of-npr&utm_id=10200903&orgid=189)

[DMC]

I guess if you have to laugh at the people in that ward....OK.

I said "Damn."

:lol sure

[DMC]

Why do we need to believe it? Mexico is actually handling their outbreak better than the US :lol
I questioned it right away. The left didn't, and Winehole even dragged it here and posted it like it was fact. Then the subsequent wringing of hands and "amen" chants from the left. If it was from the right, it would have been scrutinized by the left because there is no need to believe it. The left relishes the appearance of chaos when the right is in control and vice versa.

It's easy to tell how dirty someone's house is when they have transparent windows.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol sureI sure did say "Damn." at a video of human suffering.

You laughed.

[DMC]

You believe Trump is doing a good job.

I already answered that. Some time ago you went from narrative shifting to flat out lying. You're in desperation mode and have been since tholdren took your cookie.

[DMC]

I sure did say "Damn." at a video of human suffering.

You laughed.

A video purported to be from McAllen Texas.

The "you laughed" claim is another lie. I called it out as not being McAllen.

[ChumpDumper]

I already answered that. Some time ago you went from narrative shifting to flat out lying. You're in desperation mode and have been since tholdren took your cookie.Nope, your th:lolldren narrative doesn't change the fact you said Trump is doing a good job with the pandemic.

You said he wasn't a good president because of what he says or the way he says it.

You have semen shielded him about the pandemic from the start.

[ChumpDumper]

A video purported to be from McAllen Texas.And?

You had to make up a narrative about me for the rest.

[Blake]

:lol

Video is from Mexico

Stupid fucking liberal sheep

Winehole23, inebriated propaganda machine... Boutons Trois

What covid does to people in Mexico makes it less real to us here. Is that right?

Or are you implying that the video is a fake?

Fwiw, the tweet doesn't technically say it's filmed in McAllen but that's not gonna stop you and Darrin with the GOTCHA and the lol Mexico.

[tholdren]

Nope, your th:lolldren narrative doesn't change the fact you said Trump is doing a good job with the pandemic.

You said he wasn't a good president because of what he says or the way he says it.

You have semen shielded him about the pandemic from the start.

Name calling when wrong. Typical sea lion post

[DMC]

Nope, your th:lolldren narrative doesn't change the fact you said Trump is doing a good job with the pandemic.

You said he wasn't a good president because of what he says or the way he says it.

You have semen shielded him about the pandemic from the start.

WhataboutTrump

in response to you biting the fake news on McAllen.

:lol

[Blake]

WhataboutTrump

in response to you biting the fake news on McAllen.

:lol

So the video was just acted out?

[Blake]

I questioned it right away. The left didn't, and Winehole even dragged it here and posted it like it was fact. Then the subsequent wringing of hands and "amen" chants from the left. If it was from the right, it would have been scrutinized by the left because there is no need to believe it. The left relishes the appearance of chaos when the right is in control and vice versa.

It's easy to tell how dirty someone's house is when they have transparent windows.

So you're saying the video was staged?

[ChumpDumper]

WhataboutTrump

in response to you biting the fake news on McAllen.

:lol:lmao you're the one who made up the election narrative

Do you believe your own bullshit?

[DMC]

So the video was just acted out?

:lol Blake pretending he gives 2 shits about Mexico now that the hook is firmly lodged in his maw.

[DMC]

So you're saying the video was staged?

:lol just stop, you were duped.

[DMC]

:lmao you're the one who made up the election narrative

Do you believe your own bullshit?

You were duped as well. Easily duped, and your lap dog fell in too :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You were duped as well. Easily duped, and your lap dog fell in too :lmao:lol DMC immediately changes the subject again.

[Spurtacular]

You believed it

:lol

Run.. fast as you can

:lol Cherp thinking videos matter when it works for him. The rest of the time, no. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Cherp thinking videos matter when it works for him. The rest of the time, no. :lol:lol You don't even know what his narrative is.

[Spurtacular]

Not too well for us with 140,000+ dead.

You should do something about old age and motorcycle deaths before it's too late.

[Spurtacular]

The people that cry about wearing masks and/or saying this just like flu no big deal piss me off even more when I see stuff like this

Yea, I bet you're pissed off that people aren't as cuckified as you are.

[DMC]

https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/node_images_768x510/public/05-19-15/1.jpg

AUSTIN TEXAS COVID ICU

PLEASE SHARE

My mom's uncle's 2nd cousin's friend had a neighbor who knew someone who worked here and took this photo, this needs to be national news how bad it's gotten in Austin Texas

[tholdren]

So you're saying the video was staged?Lolololo


Blake doesn't even know what he posts. Posted a stat yesterday that said covid is 10x as deadly ad flu for age 45 and under

[ChumpDumper]

DMC googling pictures of black nurses now.:lol

[Blake]

:lol just stop, you were duped.

DMC holding on tight to his GOTCHA

[Blake]

Lolololo


Blake doesn't even know what he posts. Posted a stat yesterday that said covid is 10x as deadly ad flu for age 45 and under

But you're a confirmed liar.

[Blake]

https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/node_images_768x510/public/05-19-15/1.jpg

AUSTIN TEXAS COVID ICU

PLEASE SHARE

My mom's uncle's 2nd cousin's friend had a neighbor who knew someone who worked here and took this photo, this needs to be national news how bad it's gotten in Austin Texas

DMC thinks people in the hospital are hilarious if not American

[tholdren]

But you're a confirmed liar.

lllolololl deflection and more lies.

[DMC]

DMC googling pictures of black nurses now.:lol

Why are you laughing at the suffering?

[DMC]

DMC holding on tight to his GOTCHA

Winehole23 gets credit for that GOTCHA.

You're a sheep.. baaaa BAAAAAAA

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Why are you laughing at the suffering?What were your search terms?:lol

[DMC]

DMC thinks people in the hospital are hilarious if not American

Melting down over your triggered virtue signaling off of a hoax. :lol

[DMC]

What were your search terms?:lol

ebola hospital ward

[tholdren]

What were your search terms?:lol

sea lion time

[DMC]

Ebola is funny now to the left it seems. As long as it's not an American who's dying I guess.

[ChumpDumper]

Ebola is funny now to the left it seems. As long as it's not an American who's dying I guess.You should've posted a picture of patients and not nurses if that was going to be your narrative.

Want to give it another try, sport?

[Blake]

Melting down over your triggered virtue signaling off of a hoax. :lol

Lol "melting down"

Hold on tight to your GOTCHA

[Spurtacular]

https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/node_images_768x510/public/05-19-15/1.jpg

AUSTIN TEXAS COVID ICU

PLEASE SHARE

My mom's uncle's 2nd cousin's friend had a neighbor who knew someone who worked here and took this photo, this needs to be national news how bad it's gotten in Austin Texas

:lmao Are chumpettes believing in this?

TheGreatYacht

[DMC]

:lmao Are chumpettes believing in this?

TheGreatYacht

No it's satire. They believed the video Winehole posted was McAllen, even wanted it to be, then went off the rails when exposed as frauds and fear porn pushers.

[Spurtacular]

No it's satire. They believed the video Winehole posted was McAllen, even wanted it to be, then went off the rails when exposed as frauds and fear porn pushers.

Let's have a look...


McAllen, Texas, USA

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[DMC]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284138&page=158&p=10198866&viewfull=1#post10198866

[Spurtacular]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284138&page=158&p=10198866&viewfull=1#post10198866

I know that when I get the flu, sitting around other sick people is how I like to get better.

This is deja vu. Chumpettes were clutching their pearls about people calling out a Chinese video like this before we had our own scamdemic. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao This is what you get when chumpettes ad lib.


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