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BG_Spurs_Fan
06-24-2025, 02:53 PM
I have a question regarding Draft day trades. How do they normally work? Are there talks or even agreements between teams in the days/weeky before the Draft? Like Team A has an agreement in in principal with Team B, that if player X is available when they pick, we'll call and talk about a trade centered around our pick and/or player Y. Or do these trades happen on the fly?

Apologies if that's a stupid question, but I have to admit, I'm totally clueless about this...

Definitely agreed beforehand, at least the structure. I'm sure there are a dozen trade options for each team during the draft, it's just that most don't materialize. But take, for example, last year's trade of pick 8 to Minnesota - this didn't happen in the 5 minutes between pick announcements, with all the details like the swap, the protection of it, etc.

pookenstein
06-24-2025, 03:06 PM
Depends. Sometimes teams workout a deal before the draft but it depends on if the player they want is on the board when on the clock. Or perhaps if a team wants out because the player they wanted is no longer available.

Other times teams will call while you are on the clock. A tactic to put pressure on you. It may or may not work but these General Managers learn a lot about each other in the process.

The Spurs trading up for Kawhi Leonard was an example of the 1st scenario. The pacers wanted out of the pick and Liked George Hill. The Spurs only wanted to trade up if Kawhi Leonard or Klay Thompson were still available. The deal was agreed upon before the draft.

The Spurs trading pick #8 last year was an example of scenario 2. Spurs were prepared to pick a player and the Timberwolves called while they were on the clock and made an offer the Spurs liked. I get the feeling Spurs didn’t feel overwhelmingly confident about the players on the board so the T-wolves bailed them out.

Makes sense. Thank you. Didn't know about the agreement with the Pacers before the Draft.

Ice009
06-24-2025, 03:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjoQR-kZD0

Harper was already interviewed, you can rewind, I can't post a timestamp because it's still live.

Some clown in the chat says "Lakers select Dylan Harper", then someone tells him Lakers don't have a pick. lol.

pookenstein
06-24-2025, 03:10 PM
Definitely agreed beforehand, at least the structure. I'm sure there are a dozen trade options for each team during the draft, it's just that most don't materialize. But take, for example, last year's trade of pick 8 to Minnesota - this didn't happen in the 5 minutes between pick announcements, with all the details like the swap, the protection of it, etc.

Good point. :bobo

The Truth #6
06-24-2025, 03:47 PM
OKC and SA are the two most tight-lipped organizations in the league. I'm not buying any of their rumors or whispers.

scott
06-24-2025, 03:48 PM
Yeah I really don’t buy that Wemby is going around flat-out claiming he doesn’t want to play center. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be relegated to only playing a traditional center-type role (I.e. stuck only being in the paint on defense, only being a roll guy on offense), but I seriously doubt he’s over there telling the Spurs’ FO they need to get a center because he’s not going to play that position :lol

What's important (and someone else has pointed this out before, sorry I forget who) is that opposing centers are forced to guard Wemby... which means Sochan can't effectively play C on offense next to Wemby. Allowing guys like Brooks to guard Wemby is what gives him fits, we need a forward who is a credible enough offensive threat to force opposing forwards to guard that person while Wemby is left to pick apart their C.

Whether or not Wemby is a center or not... who cares. Call him PG if you want, it doesn't matter... Wemby is going to be Wemby, whatever that "position" is doesn't matter... just make sure that opposing Cs are forced to guard him so we can exploit that.

baseline bum
06-24-2025, 03:50 PM
Harper is not better than Bailey.

Bailey has a good chance to be Alfrederick Hughes 2.0, no thanks. Especially not with this toxic attitude he's flashing to GMs about wanting to be the man and not working out for teams where he'd be a second or third option.

SpurPadre
06-24-2025, 03:52 PM
So many analysts and sports sites badly want us to trade our second pick makes me want Harper all the more.

LeBowen
06-24-2025, 03:56 PM
What's important (and someone else has pointed this out before, sorry I forget who) is that opposing centers are forced to guard Wemby... which means Sochan can't effectively play C on offense next to Wemby. Allowing guys like Brooks to guard Wemby is what gives him fits, we need a forward who is a credible enough offensive threat to force opposing forwards to guard that person while Wemby is left to pick apart their C.

Whether or not Wemby is a center or not... who cares. Call him PG if you want, it doesn't matter... Wemby is going to be Wemby, whatever that "position" is doesn't matter... just make sure that opposing Cs are forced to guard him so we can exploit that.

Yeah, we went over matchups many times.
Two key things need to happen long-term in that regard.

1) We can't take away guard positional size advantage Harper and Castle have just to keep everyone happy. Right now it's Vassell, eventually it will be Fox.

2) We can't take away mobility and spacing advantage Wemby has just because he'll never be a great screener. Forcing opposing bigs to match up with him will be a death sentence for most teams. I think that those reports about him not wanting to play C are completely off the mark because they refer to his offense. He'll never be a great screen-setter or a player who consistently fights for post positions. He'll be the biggest wing we've ever seen on offense. Which is fine in modern basketball, a lot of coaches would play without bigs if defense wasn't an issue.
If we're talking defense, very few traditional bigs will be able to stay on the floor because of Wemby. Most of those will be star bigs which Wemby obviously has to match up with on defense, we don't want to give them a free pass by matching them up with a weaker defender. And we don't want Wemby to match up with PFs that can shoot, preventing him from being near the rim.

scott
06-24-2025, 04:05 PM
Yeah, we went over matchups many times.
Two key things need to happen long-term in that regard.

1) We can't take away guard positional size advantage Harper and Castle have just to keep everyone happy. Right now it's Vassell, eventually it will be Fox.

2) We can't take away mobility and spacing advantage Wemby has just because he'll never be a great screener. Forcing opposing bigs to match up with him will be a death sentence for most teams. I think that those reports about him not wanting to play C are completely off the mark because they refer to his offense. He'll never be a great screen-setter or a player who consistently fights for post positions. He'll be the biggest wing we've ever seen on offense. Which is fine in modern basketball, a lot of coaches would play without bigs if defense wasn't an issue.
If we're talking defense, very few traditional bigs will be able to stay on the floor because of Wemby. Most of those will be star bigs which Wemby obviously has to match up with on defense, we don't want to give them a free pass by matching them up with a weaker defender. And we don't want Wemby to match up with PFs that can shoot, preventing him from being near the rim.

This may just feed into my perceived hate of Sochan (which I actually don't hate Sochan... I just think he's still very much a work in progress)... but I think this illustrates why Sochan can't be on the court with Wemby. You're just giving the opposing team a free pass to put their C on Sochan and a better defender on Wemby.

What's best for Sochan (effectively playing C on offense) is not what's best for Wemby... and we need to prioritize what's best for Wemby.

RC_Drunkford
06-24-2025, 05:05 PM
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The Truth #6
06-24-2025, 05:28 PM
What's important (and someone else has pointed this out before, sorry I forget who) is that opposing centers are forced to guard Wemby... which means Sochan can't effectively play C on offense next to Wemby. Allowing guys like Brooks to guard Wemby is what gives him fits, we need a forward who is a credible enough offensive threat to force opposing forwards to guard that person while Wemby is left to pick apart their C.

Whether or not Wemby is a center or not... who cares. Call him PG if you want, it doesn't matter... Wemby is going to be Wemby, whatever that "position" is doesn't matter... just make sure that opposing Cs are forced to guard him so we can exploit that.

I wrote that here after hearing Vecenie say it (others probably said it also), which is why I focused on Fleming, or his archetype, for who Wemby needs to play alongside. Can shoot 3s, defend 4s and even 5s in a pinch, and play like a stretch 4 who can also rebound well.

Spurs Brazil
06-24-2025, 05:44 PM
https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1937642113786638405

John B
06-24-2025, 05:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjoQR-kZD0

Harper was already interviewed, you can rewind, I can't post a timestamp because it's still live.

Thanks for posting. I enjoyed that a lot. Cooper’s defense from his peers is elite. My impression of Dylan hasn’t changed. The kid is an alpha dog, highly confident who knows he belongs, maybe a little too confident but I’m not going to fault him for his cockiness. His demeanor is very different with Stephon who is more reserved and let his game speaks for itself. Queen as the funniest and talks a lot on and off target. I didn’t know from him, a good locker room guy. Thomas Sorber is humble, very much like Timmy, but smart and composed. He watched Shaq and Hakeem among the bigs for footwork and physicality. Working a lot on his outside shots. Comp is Adebayo. I’d take that. Danny Wolf, very smart player. He talked about not missing a single shot in 3 minutes long-distance shooting but one. He talked about working on his weaknesses. He’s still one of my favorite players coming off this draft because of his guard skills. I can’t wait to see who the Spurs pick.

PhantomDashCam
06-24-2025, 05:52 PM
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There is going to be a really good player fall to #14. Wasserman suggesting that teams in top 10 are interested in Essengue, thinks he doesn’t fall out of the lottery.

As this draft cycle has gone along, and Spurs seemingly unwilling to part with 14; think they are definitely keeping the pick.

Spurs Brazil
06-24-2025, 05:56 PM
Nets now with 5 1st round picks

ace3g
06-24-2025, 05:59 PM
https://x.com/BrettSiegelNBA/status/1937645922986660004

scottspurs
06-24-2025, 06:03 PM
Ok so who could fall to 14 that would make the Nets trade us some of those picks?

Kasparas Jakucionis? Derik Queen?

ace3g
06-24-2025, 06:09 PM
https://x.com/espn/status/1937500801670279623

SpursFan86
06-24-2025, 06:12 PM
With Atlanta adding KP, maybe makes them less likely to take a big at 13? Could help with us landing Sorber if that's the route the Spurs are wanting to go.

Mugen
06-24-2025, 06:17 PM
Very curious how far the Nets can move up tomorrow tbh.

baseline bum
06-24-2025, 06:17 PM
Ok so who could fall to 14 that would make the Nets trade us some of those picks?

Kasparas Jakucionis? Derik Queen?

Can't see any way Jaku is still there at 14. If so though I'd be asking for Cam.

scottspurs
06-24-2025, 06:21 PM
Very curious how far the Nets can move up tomorrow tbh.
Smells like Utah to me. Danny Ainge loves his picks and more picks

spurraider21
06-24-2025, 06:42 PM
Very curious how far the Nets can move up tomorrow tbh.
i think they are targeting #3 and will take on Paul George

Mugen
06-24-2025, 06:50 PM
i think they are targeting #3 and will take on Paul George

Id imagine Cam goes to Philly in that scenario.

Would also be hilarious to have Ace and PG both on the Nets considering George just ripped him on his podcast today :lol

R. DeMurre
06-24-2025, 06:58 PM
Man, OKC is in a sweet spot at #15. They don't really need anything at this point and they can just sit back and see which one of Sorber, Coward, Murray-Boyles, Carter, Beringer, etc fall to them. Probably the most stress free draft of Presti's career.

CGD
06-24-2025, 06:59 PM
I can’t remember so much trade activity happening BEFORE the draft. By my count no less than 4 FRPs in the current draft have changed hands so far. Wild stuff.

Mr. Body
06-24-2025, 07:42 PM
I can’t remember so much trade activity happening BEFORE the draft. By my count no less than 4 FRPs in the current draft have changed hands so far. Wild stuff.

There are a lot of interesting players hovering around the late lottery and throughout the lottery before. Last year pretty much sucked. The year before with Wemby, the draft fizzled out after the Thompson twins, massive cliff after them. This year is different.

RC_Drunkford
06-24-2025, 08:13 PM
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exstatic
06-24-2025, 08:17 PM
Ok so who could fall to 14 that would make the Nets trade us some of those picks?

Kasparas Jakucionis? Derik Queen?

Those 4 non lottery pick are trash. All of them together won’t get you 14.

Mr. Body
06-24-2025, 08:18 PM
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I don't see any way Boston can get there.

spurraider21
06-24-2025, 08:21 PM
I don't see any way Boston can get there.
jaylen brown to nets has been my pet mock trade for a while now. that gets them there

Mr. Body
06-24-2025, 08:25 PM
jaylen brown to nets has been my pet mock trade for a while now. that gets them there

I don't think that's the timeline, player, or contract that Brooklyn wants right now. What does he do for them.?

CGD
06-24-2025, 08:37 PM
I don't see any way Boston can get there.

Derick White gets them in the 9-14 range. Jaku is interesting because if not selected by 9 he could definitely fall to mid-teens.

baseline bum
06-24-2025, 08:39 PM
Man, OKC is in a sweet spot at #15. They don't really need anything at this point and they can just sit back and see which one of Sorber, Coward, Murray-Boyles, Carter, Beringer, etc fall to them. Probably the most stress free draft of Presti's career.

Or they could trade up for Maluach. God they're gonna be a bitch to deal with for a decade.

RC_Drunkford
06-24-2025, 09:12 PM
What if Jaylen Brown is going to Houston?

jesterbobman
06-25-2025, 01:32 AM
Early season, when we were looking at two mid lottery picks (pre Fox trade / getting to #2), my early options were Kasparas and Essengue.
At this point, I still think Essengue is a great prospect, but given our dearth of shooting, I don't think it makes sense to draft him unless shit happens - he's similar enough in rank / tier to other guys who'll be there, but its probably really hard to make him fit into a roster around Fox / Castle / Harper - This is the loop around way of saying he should (to me) be lower on a Spurs specific board than a general one / what they think other teams will do.

I think a Spurs specific board looks something like a general board, though is:
Lower on non shooters - already an issue, you'll prioritise the build around your guys (so, CMB, Essengue, Demin drop)
Higher on shooting specialists / more offball focused players (Carter Bryant up, Bailey case makes some sense)
Skillset particular on Bigs, with a focus on adding defensive value (I think we'll be building a lot of 1 big lineups with drop / centrefield coverage, then a Sochan / eventual PF option as a switch heavy change up), makes Maluach / Beringer / Sorber make sense, Queen is a hard fit),
Lower on pure PG options, particularly small ones once they have Harper. (Fears down).

Less than 1 day left.

cutewizard
06-25-2025, 03:43 AM
So excited for the Draft

who is the 14th? and the second-rounder? hmmmm

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Mal
06-25-2025, 05:11 AM
What if Jaylen Brown is going to Houston?

They took Durant for that spot.

RC_Drunkford
06-25-2025, 06:12 AM
They took Durant for that spot.

Durant plays PF. Brown plays SF/SG

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 06:22 AM
They took Durant for that spot.

They still have the assets and cap flexibility to make a moronic move like that, though I imagine they won't do much other than sign someone for the mle this summer and hold assets for a Giannis trade.

Mal
06-25-2025, 06:33 AM
Durant plays PF. Brown plays SF/SG

Its not about starting 5, but acquring stars. But sure, if they want to throw all those picks they have to get Brown and run 5 deep rotation, go for it.

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 08:43 AM
Asa Newell worked out for the San Antonio Spurs

Dejounte
06-25-2025, 08:54 AM
Asa Newell worked out for the San Antonio Spurs
Would be a terrible fit. Sochan part 2. Weighs only 224 lbs so can’t really play C legitimately. Would get pushed around like Collins or Sochan

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 08:57 AM
Walter Clayton Jr cancelled all of his workouts for teams picking late in round 1

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:07 AM
Rasheer Fleming worked out for the San Antonio Spurs on May 29th.

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:14 AM
Noah Penda worked out for the San Antonio Spurs once he arrived to the United States.

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:16 AM
Sometime during the German league playoffs Ben Saraf worked out for the San Antonio Spurs in Germany

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:21 AM
Chaz Lanier worked out for the San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio

Guru of Nothing
06-25-2025, 09:21 AM
Feels like a natural move would be for Orlando to give max effort to move up an ensure they can draft Walter Clayton Jr. Alas, I don't think there's anything attractive left in Orlando that might be worth pursuing to say swap 14 and 25.

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:23 AM
Yanic Konan Niederhauser worked out for the Spurs on the same day Maxime Raynaud and Danny Wolf worked out for the Spurs

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:28 AM
Johni Broome worked out for the San Antonio Spurs too

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:31 AM
Another confirmed workout for the San Antonio Spurs is Sion James from Duke

mo7888
06-25-2025, 09:32 AM
Chaz Lanier worked out for the San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio

Not a bad choice if we keep #38

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:34 AM
I promise I’ll post the final list but another player that worked out for the Spurs is the Drafts top Shooter Koby Brea

mo7888
06-25-2025, 09:36 AM
I promise I’ll post the final list but another player that worked out for the Spurs is the Drafts top Shooter Koby Brea

I think I can say, we all appreciate the work you're putting in on this aspect of the draft.

Ice009
06-25-2025, 09:36 AM
Has Kasparas Jakucionis worked out for the Spurs [edit : just saw you'll post a list later], or would they not be interested in him should he fall? I'm assuming too redundant and not a great shooter. If he falls, would it be worth drafting him and then trying to trade with the Celtics for someone like D-White?

Guru of Nothing
06-25-2025, 09:38 AM
I promise I’ll post the final list but another player that worked out for the Spurs is the Drafts top Shooter Koby Brea

And with the 38th pick in the draft, the Spurs select Kyle Korver II.

Disclaimer: Have never seen Brea play. Just looking at what's on paper.

Dejounte
06-25-2025, 09:38 AM
So the Spurs worked out everybody lol

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 09:39 AM
Ryan Nembhard also worked out for the Spurs in San Antonio

poopbox
06-25-2025, 09:41 AM
Yanic Konan Niederhauser worked out for the Spurs on the same day Maxime Raynaud and Danny Wolf worked out for the Spurs

I really like Wolf skillset. 14 is definitely a reach for him and the worst version of him in the nba is completely unplayable and with our current roster construction we could definitely get the worst version of him

If for whatever reason we trade back to say 18 or later though he'd be the guy I'd want us to pick since I am sure by that pick every big I have over him is gone.

onechance87
06-25-2025, 09:45 AM
Ryan Nembhard also worked out for the Spurs in San Antonio

did hasen yang ever work out for the spurs?

Dejounte
06-25-2025, 09:51 AM
Yanic Konan Niederhauser worked out for the Spurs on the same day Maxime Raynaud and Danny Wolf worked out for the Spurs

If wolf is working out with those guys then the spurs probably view him as a 2nd rd pick

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 10:18 AM
Two more interesting names and I’ll post the list:

Vladislav Goldin worked out for the Spurs

Draft and Stash candidate from Spain Izan Almansa also worked out for the spurs

a bunch of other guys worked out but they were not notable but I’ll put them on the final list. Give me a couple of minutes

Mugen
06-25-2025, 10:25 AM
Sion James would be great at #38 if they kept that pick tbh

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 10:25 AM
Final Worked out/met with Spurs Tracker


LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina
Jeremiah Fears, Guard - Oklahoma
John Tonje, Guard - Wisconsin
Sean Pedulla, Guard - Ole Miss
Thomas Sorber, Big - Georgetown
Cam Carter, Guard - LSU
Javon Small, Guard - West Virginia
Obinna Anochili-Killen, Forward - Marshall
Zeke Mayo, Guard - Kansas
Khaman Maluach, Big - Duke
Danny Wolf, Big - Michigan
Egor Demin, Forward - BYU
Dylan Harper, Guard - Rutgers
Dylan Cardwell, Big - Auburn
Kobe Sanders, Guard - Nevada
Taelon Peter, Guard - Liberty
Joan Beringer, Big - France
Cedric Coward, Forward - Washington State
Chibuzo Agbo, Guard - USC
Chucky Hepburn, Guard - Louisville
Asa Newell, Big - Georgia
Rasheer Fleming, Forward - St. Joseph’s
Noah Penda, Forward - France
Ben Saraf, Guard - Israel
Chaz Lanier, Guard - Tennessee
Yanic Konan Niederhauser, Big - Penn State
Johni Broome, Big - Auburn
Sion James, Forward - Duke
Koby Brea, Forward - Kentucky
Ryan Nembhard, Guard - Gonzaga
Izan Almansa, Forward - Spain
Payton Sandfort, Guard - Iowa
Kadary Richmond, Guard - St. John’s
Vladislav Goldin, Big - Michigan
Curtis Jones, Guard - Iowa State
Norchad Omier, Forward - Baylor
Adama-Alpha Bal, Forward - Santa Clara/Strasbourg


Maxime Raynaud, Big - Stanford
(also worked out with Wemby)


Jalon Moore, Forward- Oklahoma
(Tore his Achilles during workout)


Milos Uzan, Guard - Houston
(Returned to school)


Players the Spurs have reportedly shown interest in but couldn’t find a confirmed workout:


Kasparas Jakucionis, Guard - Illinois
Liam Mcneely, Forward - UCONN
Carter Bryant, Forward - Arizona
Will Riley, Guard - Illinois

Mr. Body
06-25-2025, 10:26 AM
Has Kasparas Jakucionis worked out for the Spurs [edit : just saw you'll post a list later], or would they not be interested in him should he fall? I'm assuming too redundant and not a great shooter. If he falls, would it be worth drafting him and then trying to trade with the Celtics for someone like D-White?

If Jaku somehow falls, I would take him and keep him. He provides a similar skill-set to White and is much younger and cheaper. Probably the reasons why Celtics are after him.

barakz21
06-25-2025, 10:26 AM
Damn, just realized the draft’s today. For some reason, I was thinking it was Thursday lol

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 10:27 AM
did hasen yang ever work out for the spurs?
A list of teams sent representatives to meet with the Chinese government. The Spurs were not on that list nor did they work him out from what I could find so highly unlikely they draft him under the circumstances

BackHome
06-25-2025, 10:28 AM
There still some good prospects we can get with the 14th pick and even some decent players either foreign or older college prospects in the second round. We are going to loose at least 5 players so even if we draft 3 players that still allows us to get a minimum of 2 vets

BacktoBasics
06-25-2025, 10:28 AM
Has Maluach cleared up his status to play in the US yet? I'm not predicting it'll be a problem but haven't seen any recent news on it.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 10:55 AM
What's important (and someone else has pointed this out before, sorry I forget who) is that opposing centers are forced to guard Wemby... which means Sochan can't effectively play C on offense next to Wemby. Allowing guys like Brooks to guard Wemby is what gives him fits, we need a forward who is a credible enough offensive threat to force opposing forwards to guard that person while Wemby is left to pick apart their C.

Whether or not Wemby is a center or not... who cares. Call him PG if you want, it doesn't matter... Wemby is going to be Wemby, whatever that "position" is doesn't matter... just make sure that opposing Cs are forced to guard him so we can exploit that.

Sochan needs to be our Shane Battier. Focus on 3s and D.

He needs to be our backup SF off the bench. Or if we really needed to shutdown a 2 or 3, he'd be front and center. But not play Center. That just shows how limited our talent was last season. Sorber and Maxime should shore that up if that comes to fruition.

scottspurs
06-25-2025, 11:00 AM
Final Spurs Draft Board Tiers


Based on what we know these players have been connected to the Spurs. I’m putting these players in order of consensus not my own opinion. But these are the most likely candidates to be picked based on their connections to the Spurs. I placed players in tiers based on their range of the consensus board from https://www.rookiescale.com/2025-consensus-board/. A site that compiled data from all the top media draft pundits.


This is the best educated guess as to what the Spurs Board might look like based on all this info


Tier pick #2
Dylan Harper


Tier Trade up from pick #14
Jeremiah Fears
Khaman Maluach


Tier pick #14
Carter Bryant
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Demin
Cedric Coward
Thomas Sorber
Asa Newell
Joan Beringer


Tier trade down from pick #14 or Trade up from pick #38
Liam McNeely
Danny Wolf
Will Riley
Rasheer Fleming
Maxime Raynaud
Noah Penda


Tier pick #38
Ben Saraf
Chaz Lanier
Yanic Konan Niederhauser
Johni Broome
Sion James
Koby Brea
John Tonje
Javon Small
Micah Peavy
Ryan Nembhard
Vladislav Goldin
Kobe Sanders


Tier Draft and Stash candidate
Izan Almansa




Tier Undrafted Summer league/Camp Bodies/two-way candidate
Chucky Hepburn
Payton Sandfort
Kadary Richmond
Curtis Jones
Jalon Moore
Dylan Cardwell
Sean Pedulla
Adama-Alpha Bal
Norchad Omier
LJ Cryer
RJ Felton
Cam Carter
Obinna Anochili-Killen
Zeke Mayo
Taelon Peter
Chibuzo Agbo

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:01 AM
Ace Bailey wouldn’t answer why he didn’t work out with the Sixers and other teams pic.twitter.com/hH1rtbzwKS

— Crossing Broad (@CrossingBroad) June 24, 2025

Pop is smart.

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 11:02 AM
Pop is smart.

Bailey wants Washington to take him

Rosewood
06-25-2025, 11:05 AM
Excited to see Harper to Spurs made official. I’m probably the only one here not even worried about the #14 pick and what we do with it. Our luck these last three years have been awesome… hope the franchise doesn’t waste it.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:08 AM
Bailey has a good chance to be Alfrederick Hughes 2.0, no thanks. Especially not with this toxic attitude he's flashing to GMs about wanting to be the man and not working out for teams where he'd be a second or third option.

Maybe your too young to know or too old to remember baseline. Bailey compares to Shawn Marion with the Phoenix Suns. Go check YouTube. You know...The Matrix.

Russ
06-25-2025, 11:09 AM
Bailey wants Washington to take him

Match made in heaven.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:12 AM
Match made in heaven.

No.

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 11:16 AM
Maybe your too young to know or too old to remember baseline. Bailey compares to Shawn Marion with the Phoenix Suns. Go check YouTube. You know...The Matrix.

I don't need to check youtube, I watched his games. The only thing Bailey has in common with Marion is being 6'7".

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:21 AM
The Nets own picks 8, 19, 22, 26, 27, and 36 in the draft.

Brooklyn has aggressively been looking to move up and secure a second lottery pick. They have also been linked to trade-up scenarios for Ace Bailey.

More moves are coming in Brooklyn. https://t.co/oEYNNDb8Pz

— Brett Siegel (@BrettSiegelNBA) June 24, 2025

Thanks Ace. We gotta take Bailey at #2.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:23 AM
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There is going to be a really good player fall to #14. Wasserman suggesting that teams in top 10 are interested in Essengue, thinks he doesn’t fall out of the lottery.

As this draft cycle has gone along, and Spurs seemingly unwilling to part with 14; think they are definitely keeping the pick.

Need Sorber at #10 maybe. Will have to trade Up.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:23 AM
I don't need to check youtube, I watched his games. The only thing Bailey has in common with Marion is being 6'7".

Lol. Ok.

New Jersey wants to trade Up to get him at 2. But I guess you're right. You know better. Good job Sir.

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 11:30 AM
Lol. Ok.

New Jersey wants to trade Up to get him at 2. But I guess you're right. You know better. Good job Sir.

New Jersey wanted to trade up to get Harper at #2. Do you even follow the NBA? It was all over the news last week. They pivoted to Bailey when it became clear they didn't have the assets to trade up to #2. They probably have to move ahead of Washington to get Bailey.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:31 AM
So excited for the Draft

who is the 14th? and the second-rounder? hmmmm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhohR3NBl4&list=RD9KhohR3NBl4&start_radio =1

Bro, I'm hoping they use 2nd rounder and future draft picks maybe current assets not Sochan...to trade Up to 20 to grab Maxime.

BackHome
06-25-2025, 11:31 AM
No one is trading up for Ace after he got his promise

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:39 AM
Yanic Konan Niederhauser worked out for the Spurs on the same day Maxime Raynaud and Danny Wolf worked out for the Spurs

Glad MR worked out. Spurs might target.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:40 AM
So the Spurs worked out everybody lol

Lmao

John B
06-25-2025, 11:43 AM
Glad MR worked out. Spurs might target.

They’re definitely going to come out from this draft with a Big. It’s a question on whether at #14 or #38

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:44 AM
Final Spurs Draft Board Tiers


Based on what we know these players have been connected to the Spurs. I’m putting these players in order of consensus not my own opinion. But these are the most likely candidates to be picked based on their connections to the Spurs. I placed players in tiers based on their range of the consensus board from https://www.rookiescale.com/2025-consensus-board/. A site that compiled data from all the top media draft pundits.


This is the best educated guess as to what the Spurs Board might look like based on all this info


Tier pick #2
Dylan Harper


Tier Trade up from pick #14
Jeremiah Fears
Khaman Maluach


Tier pick #14
Carter Bryant
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Demin
Cedric Coward
Thomas Sorber
Asa Newell
Joan Beringer


Tier trade down from pick #14 or Trade up from pick #38
Liam McNeely
Danny Wolf
Will Riley
Rasheer Fleming
Maxime Raynaud
Noah Penda


Tier pick #38
Ben Saraf
Chaz Lanier
Yanic Konan Niederhauser
Johni Broome
Sion James
Koby Brea
John Tonje
Javon Small
Micah Peavy
Ryan Nembhard
Vladislav Goldin
Kobe Sanders


Tier Draft and Stash candidate
Izan Almansa




Tier Undrafted Summer league/Camp Bodies/two-way candidate
Chucky Hepburn
Payton Sandfort
Kadary Richmond
Curtis Jones
Jalon Moore
Dylan Cardwell
Sean Pedulla
Adama-Alpha Bal
Norchad Omier
LJ Cryer
RJ Felton
Cam Carter
Obinna Anochili-Killen
Zeke Mayo
Taelon Peter
Chibuzo Agbo







We could do alot worse than turning 2 and 14 into Harper and Maxime Raynaud.

I'd take Sion at 38.

Sucks to miss out on Sorber. And we won't have the explosiveness of Bailey....and Sochan is our statlrting SF.

Spurs can do better. This is the lazy draft to just take Harper and Max when you can get Bailey and Sorber.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:49 AM
Bailey wants Washington to take him

That's cool. But he'll go where he's drafted and like it! Lol.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:51 AM
New Jersey wanted to trade up to get Harper at #2. Do you even follow the NBA? It was all over the news last week. They pivoted to Bailey when it became clear they didn't have the assets to trade up to #2. They probably have to move ahead of Washington to get Bailey.

Nope. Don't follow the NBA. Became a Spurs Draft expert in less than 24 hours.

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 11:53 AM
That's cool. But he'll go where he's drafted and like it! Lol.

Seems like no one in the top 5 wants him. Can't remember if it was KOC or Vecenie but he reported a few days ago that the public is just catching on to where league GMs were months ago with him slipping on their draft boards. Once he came in three inches shorter than advertised that seemed like the final straw after a supremely disappointing season where he didn't live up to his high school hype.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:53 AM
No one is trading up for Ace after he got his promise

Pop made him a promise?

buttsR4rebounding
06-25-2025, 11:53 AM
Chaz Lanier worked out for the San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio

I've seen at least 5 or 6 mock drafts that have the Spurs taking him at 38.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 11:55 AM
They’re definitely going to come out from this draft with a Big. It’s a question on whether at #14 or #38

Crossing fingers Sir. Lord knows we're desperate at C. Would like to get two to help each other. Let Wemby be free on the outside and a shot blocking terror when in the vacinity...

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 11:59 AM
We could do alot worse than turning 2 and 14 into Harper and Maxime Raynaud.

I'd take Sion at 38.

Sucks to miss out on Sorber. And we won't have the explosiveness of Bailey....and Sochan is our statlrting SF.

Spurs can do better. This is the lazy draft to just take Harper and Max when you can get Bailey and Sorber.

Wouldn't mind Sorber at 14 but I'd probably try to see if I can squeeze Brooklyn for a future first for swapping 14 and 26 and then I'd take Fleming 26. Only player I'd move Harper for is Giannis.

John B
06-25-2025, 12:02 PM
Crossing fingers Sir. Lord knows we're desperate at C. Would like to get two to help each other. Let Wemby be free on the outside and a shot blocking terror when in the vacinity...

Capela as backup C? And there’s still John Collins and Naz Reid who could opt out? Wemby could be a magnet for these FA. Anyone would love to be Spurs starting 4 next to Wemby.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 12:03 PM
Seems like no one in the top 5 wants him. Can't remember if it was KOC or Vecenie but he reported a few days ago that the public is just catching on to where league GMs were months ago with him slipping on their draft boards. Once he came in three inches shorter than advertised that seemed like the final straw after a supremely disappointing season where he didn't live up to his high school hype.

Hmmm...we'll baseline. I must say, you are very informed. Thankyou bro. I'm learning from you.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 12:05 PM
Wouldn't mind Sorber at 14 but I'd probably try to see if I can squeeze Brooklyn for a future first for swapping 14 and 26 and then I'd take Fleming 26. Only player I'd move Harper for is Giannis.

Agreed on Harper for Giannis. I have to look up Fleming. I'm in the dark on him.

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 12:17 PM
Agreed on Harper for Giannis. I have to look up Fleming. I'm in the dark on him.

He's a PF who shoots the three really well and has a ridiculous 7'5" wingspan, only an inch short of Sorber's. Don't know why he's mocked so low. Sorber's foot injury scares me a bit but the Spurs will have detailed medicals on him so if they like what they see I wouldn't be mad taking him 14.

LeBowen
06-25-2025, 12:24 PM
Don't know why he's mocked so low.

I was just about to ask this because I don't really watch college ball.

Fleming: 6'8.25 with 7'5.25 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach.
Coward: 6'5.25 with 7'2.25 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach.

Fleming is a year younger.

Fleming shot 39% from 3pt on 4.5 attempts this year. Idk if it's a fluke or legit improvement because he shot 32% on 3 attempts a year before.
Coward was at 40% on 5 attempts and was always a legit shooter.

Apparently Fleming has no handles whatsoever and would be an exclusively spot up shooter or cutter on offense. But with his size, do we even need more considering our roster?

As I said, I got no clue, maybe Coward and Bryant have higher all-round potential, but I'd honestly be happy with any 3-D wing that turns out to be a servicable player.
If we're talking player comps, I'd say that it would be great if we could get a Jaden McDaniels level player with #14.

baseline bum
06-25-2025, 12:28 PM
I was just about to ask this because I don't really watch college ball.

Fleming: 6'8.25 with 7'5.25 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach.
Coward: 6'5.25 with 7'2.25 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach.

Fleming is a year younger.

Fleming shot 39% from 3pt on 4.5 attempts this year. Idk if it's a fluke or legit improvement because he shot 32% on 3 attempts a year before.
Coward was at 40% on 5 attempts and was always a legit shooter.

Apparently Fleming has no handles whatsoever and would be an exclusively spot up shooter or cutter on offense. But with his size, do we even need more considering our roster?

As I said, I got no clue, maybe Coward and Bryant have higher all-round potential, but I'd honestly be happy with any 3-D wing that turns out to be a servicable player.
If we're talking player comps, I'd say that it would be great if we could get a Jaden McDaniels level player with #14.

Yeah I'm interested to see if the Spurs take Coward too. Seems like a great fit on paper. Would be wild if Sorber and Coward are both there at 14 and then OKC can get one of them at 15. But I'd like to see how desperate Brooklyn is to move up and stockpiling picks would be sweet, especially if a Giannis trade materializes this season. Feels like the Spurs could have a lot of interesting options at 14.

bigzak25
06-25-2025, 12:30 PM
He's a PF who shoots the three really well and has a ridiculous 7'5" wingspan, only an inch short of Sorber's. Don't know why he's mocked so low. Sorber's foot injury scares me a bit but the Spurs will have detailed medicals on him so if they like what they see I wouldn't be mad taking him 14.

Cool. Then him and.Sochan can compete for starting SF.

Mugen
06-25-2025, 12:33 PM
Cool. Then him and.Sochan can compete for starting SF.

Sochan as a SF tbh :lol

Ariel
06-25-2025, 12:45 PM
I was just about to ask this because I don't really watch college ball.

Fleming: 6'8.25 with 7'5.25 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach.
Coward: 6'5.25 with 7'2.25 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach.

Fleming is a year younger.

Fleming shot 39% from 3pt on 4.5 attempts this year. Idk if it's a fluke or legit improvement because he shot 32% on 3 attempts a year before.
Coward was at 40% on 5 attempts and was always a legit shooter.

Apparently Fleming has no handles whatsoever and would be an exclusively spot up shooter or cutter on offense. But with his size, do we even need more considering our roster?

As I said, I got no clue, maybe Coward and Bryant have higher all-round potential, but I'd honestly be happy with any 3-D wing that turns out to be a servicable player.
If we're talking player comps, I'd say that it would be great if we could get a Jaden McDaniels level player with #14.
Fleming cannot put the ball on the floor, he's strictly an off ball player, a stretch 4 with crazy length and hustle and a one year sample of being able to shoot it. If you believe the shot is real he's definitely an interesting option in the late teens onwards, otherwise he might be unplayable. Coward on the other hand is a proven shooter who can post up, put the ball on the floor, and pass some. He has his own question marks (health, lateral mobility may not be great) but his floor is higher.

buttsR4rebounding
06-25-2025, 12:57 PM
Pop made him a promise?

Is the Ace Bailey behaviour the execution of the CIA Pop plan to get him to drop to 14? If so, we probably get the child molestation rumor coming out any time now...for Ace, not Pop.

picnroll
06-25-2025, 02:05 PM
Vecenie on his youtube update on trades and draft rumors said there’s lots of noise about the Spurs tring to get up to draft Maluach.

Mr. Body
06-25-2025, 02:07 PM
Vecenie on his youtube update on trades and draft rumors said there’s lots of noise about the Spurs tring to get up to draft Maluach.

I believe this less and less, lol. We'll see.

LeBowen
06-25-2025, 02:08 PM
Vecenie on his youtube update on trades and draft rumors said there’s lots of noise about the Spurs tring to get up to draft Maluach.

And what would be a realistic trade for him?
He's not getting past the Raptors at #9, meaning we'd have to deal with either them or Pelicans at #7.
Maybe even some complex trade where Nets move up to #3, Sixers down to #8 and then trade with us after that.

picnroll
06-25-2025, 02:12 PM
And what would be a realistic trade for him?
He's not getting past the Raptors at #9, meaning we'd have to deal with either them or Pelicans at #7.
Maybe even some complex trade where Nets move up to #3, Sixers down to #8 and then trade with us after that.
No idea. I don’t even see the fit particularly for the asset dump it would probably take to move up high enough. Just what Vecenie said, believe he attributed a lot of the noise to David Aldridge who he highly respects.

SpursFan86
06-25-2025, 02:18 PM
Re: Maluach…seems like these are the possibilities:

1) Spurs are intentionally letting these rumors out to use as a smokescreen to hide who they’re actually targeting

2) The rumors are totally made up, or other teams are putting the info out there to throw others off

3) The Spurs have a leak in their camp and legitimately are targeting him

Personally I think option 3 is by far the least likely of the 3…but guess we’ll see. I would be shocked if we moved up for Maluach.

RC_Drunkford
06-25-2025, 02:22 PM
Re: Maluach…seems like these are the possibilities:

1) Spurs are intentionally letting these rumors out to use as a smokescreen to hide who they’re actually targeting

2) The rumors are totally made up, or other teams are putting the info out there to throw others off

3) The Spurs have a leak in their camp and legitimately are targeting him

Personally I think option 3 is by far the least likely of the 3…but guess we’ll see. I would be shocked if we moved up for Maluach.

4. Spurs have talked with teams in the top 10 about potential trades and they are leaking it

spurraider21
06-25-2025, 02:25 PM
i hope its just a smokescreen to try to goad other teams into drafting or trading up for bigs to allow one of bryant/coward to make it to 14

but i dno, last year it seemed like a pretty poorly kept secret that the spurs coveted Castlye. the only smokescreen was the thing of Devin Carter playing well against him in workouts, but that didnt stop every mock under the sun from having Castle go to us at 4 (as long as they were normal mocks with risacher/sheppard going top 3)

picnroll
06-25-2025, 02:28 PM
Re: Maluach…seems like these are the possibilities:

1) Spurs are intentionally letting these rumors out to use as a smokescreen to hide who they’re actually targeting

2) The rumors are totally made up, or other teams are putting the info out there to throw others off Maluach made two visits and it was said he’d only make the second visit if the Spurs were seriously interested. So unless he thought he might fall to 14 that doesn’t add up.

3) The Spurs have a leak in their camp and legitimately are targeting him

Personally I think option 3 is by far the least likely of the 3…but guess we’ll see. I would be shocked if we moved up for Maluach.

Only thing that contradicts those hypothesis is that Maluach made two visits and it’s said he only wanted to make the second visit if the Spurs had a serious interested. So either he thought he might still be there at 14 or Spurs indicated they’d try to move up to get him.

Edit: Or god forbid they were thinking of trading out of 2.

LeBowen
06-25-2025, 02:31 PM
It's not easy to move up without overpaying. There are a lot of teams that want to move up, ones with more available assets like the Spurs will need to pay move for someone to accept their offer.
Last year Minnesota was desperate for some reason and Wright bent them over.

If there's a fair deal to be made it should be done, but it's not likely.

The only top8 teams that could trade down are Pelicans and Sixers.
We don't really have to offer anything to the Pelicans that wouldn't be an overpay and Sixers scenario would work only if we take that disgusting PG contract, which I wouldn't do no matter what.

cd98
06-25-2025, 02:35 PM
Yes, a fair question is if you have the 14th pick and you want a pick in the 7-10 range, what is the cost to move up? You wouldn't do a future first. Would multiple 2nds be enough? Trading a player is hard because then you have to match salaries, etc. I'll be curious to see what the Spurs have to pay if they do move up from 14.

mo7888
06-25-2025, 02:37 PM
Yes, a fair question is if you have the 14th pick and you want a pick in the 7-10 range, what is the cost to move up? You wouldn't do a future first. Would multiple 2nds be enough? Trading a player is hard because then you have to match salaries, etc. I'll be curious to see what the Spurs have to pay if they do move up from 14.

It's future 1st's and/or taking back a bad contract

BatManu20
06-25-2025, 02:41 PM
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DesignatedT
06-25-2025, 02:46 PM
Who's in the 20's that may want to move up to 14? Could see it making sense to move back to 25 range to take Reyanud/Kalkbrenner and maybe get a future 1st or pick swap out of someone.

Dverde
06-25-2025, 02:51 PM
I feel like #14 being a combo guard is the ultimate troll move.

BatManu20
06-25-2025, 02:57 PM
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baseline bum
06-25-2025, 03:51 PM
1937961585731063948

Tre Johnson at 8 seems nuts. I'd probably take him 4 in Charlotte. And LOL Phoenix taking Queen if Jaku is still in the board.

LeBowen
06-25-2025, 04:00 PM
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Good shit, Playoff P is just the man we need in Atlanta to make those picks more valuable.

But they don't really have anything to offer other than Porzingis and Okongwu assuming Jalen Johnson, Risacher and Dyson Daniels are safe.

Leetonidas
06-25-2025, 04:01 PM
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ATL not fucking around :wow

PG kinda sucks though

dubross
06-25-2025, 04:01 PM
https://x.com/nbadraftnet/status/1937964381759017383?s=46&t=R_sceQ4efZTX7nQnRN92Cw

Mugen
06-25-2025, 04:03 PM
ATL not fucking around :wow

PG kinda sucks though

The East is WIDE open. If you told me the Hawks secured a top 3 seed next year, I wouldn't even be surprised tbh.

PG would be a misstep for them IMO so I hope it happens.

heyheymymy
06-25-2025, 04:03 PM
Wondering if the Malauch Spurs interest is a smokescreen by SA to sell #14. Maybe they know a team wants him or wants a C so they are faking like I'll take him unless you want to pay a premium to trade up with me to get him for yourself.

mo7888
06-25-2025, 04:04 PM
Good shit, Playoff P is just the man we need in Atlanta to make those picks more valuable.

But they don't really have anything to offer other than Porzingis and Okongwu assuming Jalen Johnson, Risacher and Dyson Daniels are safe.

Would they really trade Porzingis the day after acquiring him and giving up assets for him? I think this is either a JJ centered deal or 3 team Trae deal.

heyheymymy
06-25-2025, 04:04 PM
"Surreal. Excited. #2 best words to describe it."

Dylan Harper

spurraider21
06-25-2025, 04:05 PM
Good shit, Playoff P is just the man we need in Atlanta to make those picks more valuable.

But they don't really have anything to offer other than Porzingis and Okongwu assuming Jalen Johnson, Risacher and Dyson Daniels are safe.


ATL not fucking around :wow

PG kinda sucks though
deleted for misinfo

i was too quick to pass it along. i dont think adam beverly is a real person, hadnt heard of him before today :lol

i miss when check marks meant something

LeBowen
06-25-2025, 04:06 PM
Would they really trade Porzingis the day after acquiring him and giving up assets for him? I think this is either a JJ centered deal or 3 team Trae deal.

They'd be idiots to trade JJ, unless there are injury concerns we don't know about. He played only 184 games in 4 seasons.

exstatic
06-25-2025, 04:09 PM
Yeah I'm interested to see if the Spurs take Coward too. Seems like a great fit on paper. Would be wild if Sorber and Coward are both there at 14 and then OKC can get one of them at 15. But I'd like to see how desperate Brooklyn is to move up and stockpiling picks would be sweet, especially if a Giannis trade materializes this season. Feels like the Spurs could have a lot of interesting options at 14.

if BKN wants t move up, I’d need 19, and a future unprotected or lightly protected FRP. Don’t want any of those junky picks past 20.

mo7888
06-25-2025, 04:11 PM
They'd be idiots to trade JJ, unless there are injury concerns we don't know about. He played only 184 games in 4 seasons.

Looks like the rumor was a troll..

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2025, 04:17 PM
Keep 14, looks like there should be a couple worthwhile players available there.

Somebody could overpay I guess.

dubross
06-25-2025, 04:29 PM
https://x.com/arielcbb/status/1937959579184492932?s=46&t=R_sceQ4efZTX7nQnRN92Cw

DAF86
06-29-2025, 03:12 PM
AniP07OshP4?si=HY0uVmUaGHAHiJo5

Is this one of yall? It is a nice change of pace to have a Spurs' related channel with some character, instead of the usual mind numbing boring content.

CorrectCrusader
06-29-2025, 08:42 PM
AniP07OshP4?si=HY0uVmUaGHAHiJo5

Is this one of yall? It is a nice change of pace to have a Spurs' related channel with some character, instead of the usual mind numbing boring content.

Guy who runs it is pretty smart, uses AI for the voice & he edits it.

SpursBills
06-29-2025, 08:58 PM
Crazy to think that if the spurs roll out Harper-Castle-Bryant-Sochan-Wemby at some point this season, that might be younger than the starting lineup of some NCAA teams with NIL forcing a lot of upperclassmen back to school

Ice009
06-30-2025, 11:17 AM
Guy who runs it is pretty smart, uses AI for the voice & he edits it.

Why would he use an AI voice. Why not just use his own voice?

CorrectCrusader
06-30-2025, 11:28 AM
Why would he use an AI voice. Why not just use his own voice.

He may not have a good voice for youtube.