Marc Stein: Spurs are #1 on LaMarcus Aldridge's list

[Mugen]

Enjoy retirement then.

[SpursFan86]

So would the best case scenario involving us getting LMA mean we "only" lose Splitter and Mills?

[BatManu20]

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[TheGoldStandard]

So would the best case scenario involving us getting LMA mean we "only" lose Splitter and Mills?

Best case is losing Splitter and Aldridge being flexible

[BillMc]

So would the best case scenario involving us getting LMA mean we "only" lose Splitter and Mills?

Do we even have to lose Mills?

[BatManu20]

This is why I'm almost certain Spurs go Draft-and-stash tonight.

[TheGoldStandard]

This is why I'm almost certain Spurs go Draft-and-stash tonight.

They may need the picks to fill out the roster spots given who we will let walk. So a likely scenario is they trade down to the 2nd round

[Raven]

cojo, green, kawhi, aldridge, tiago
tony, manu, kyle, diaw, duncan, patty

and i'm happy. do it somehow

[spurraider21]

cojo, green, kawhi, aldridge, tiago
tony, manu, kyle, diaw, duncan, patty

and i'm happy. do it somehow
If koolaid man was a spurfan he'd make posts like this tbh

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No way Manu is signing for the minimum at 37 years old imo. To put his body through the rigor of another season, he's going to want to get paid a lot of money to do so, unfortunately.

I say this as a huge Manu fan, goodbye Manu.

For him to tie up significant cap space without being able to make a significant contribution would be ridiculously selfish. Might as well go spit in Duncan's face while he's at it, because sucking up a bunch of cap space precludes the front office from making the moves it feels it needs to make to try and get this team back to the Finals one last time in the Duncan era.

[BillMc]

Gotta wonder how hard LMA works on defense. Look at my signature, Old Man Timmy beats him down the floor by a mile.

Of course, Pop will correct that flaw, IF LaMarcus takes the cue from Duncan and let's Pop rip into him when needed. No ass kissing ala Blatt and LeBron.

On an unrelated note, one wonders if Blatt ever ripped into LeBron over their season together. I'd guess no. Not once.

Man, this draft can't start soon enough. I'm getting no work done.

[Raven]

If koolaid man was a spurfan he'd make posts like this tbh

assuming duncan and manu sign vet mins which they should but won't, it would be possible. also aldridge should sign a one year contract for less so he can cash in next year..


:depressed

[TD 21]

I don't know why anyone would think Duncan or Ginobili is going to cost the organization a player of the magnitude of Aldridge or the importance of Green, when they're both (at least in Ginobili's case) not going to play more than 1 more season. They have too much character and too much of a connection to the organization to do that. Plus, they know that if they want to win it all next season, they'll need Green; even with Aldridge.

So if the max they can give Ginobili is the room exception, plus a partially guaranteed second season (something like $4M total), I think he'll accept it.

[Kool Bob Love]

2.8mil to play 20mins a night for 60-65 games while having a bunch of overweight fellow countrymen yelling your name sounds like a sweet deal tbh.

Damnnnn,

[Agloco]

He's walking:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report--lamarcus-aldridge-has-already-told-the-blazers-that-he-s-out-of-portland-210538064.html

[SpursSerb]

This is gonna be a huge melt down.

[RD2191]

This is gonna be a huge melt down.
:lol

[ElNono]

:lol Yeah Manu is def the forgotten wild card here. We all thought he'd take less than what he ended up getting on his last contract. If he ends up costing the Spurs Green or LMA then he needs the Porky treatment next season no doubt.....

I don't think he'll take anything close to the min. here, det nigga ElNono is ruthless tbh.....

Gino has three kids to feed, and he didn't even choke his coach, tbh... $5m, give or take, is not too much to ask for team leader and fan favorite...

[cjw]

In order to keep everyone (other than Splitter), they would almost certainly need a S&T. This would require Portland wanting Splitter and another piece to make numbers match from trade rules perspective. Could someone like Marco be signed and sent out to help bridge that dollar gap? He'd have to want to go to Portland, though this would mean Portland is rebuilding and he's likely a trade chip for them when tradeable midseason.

[Beaverfuzz]

Gotta wonder how hard LMA works on defense. Look at my signature, Old Man Timmy beats him down the floor by a mile.

Of course, Pop will correct that flaw, IF LaMarcus takes the cue from Duncan and let's Pop rip into him when needed. No ass kissing ala Blatt and LeBron.

On an unrelated note, one wonders if Blatt ever ripped into LeBron over their season together. I'd guess no. Not once.

Man, this draft can't start soon enough. I'm getting no work done.


This. Give LMA a summer with Duncan working on the inside game AND defense and this is a no-brainer.

[Beaverfuzz]

In order to keep everyone (other than Splitter), they would almost certainly need a S&T. This would require Portland wanting Splitter and another piece to make numbers match from trade rules perspective. Could someone like Marco be signed and sent out to help bridge that dollar gap? He'd have to want to go to Portland, though this would mean Portland is rebuilding and he's likely a trade chip for them when tradeable midseason.

Splitter, Marco, a basketball stanchion, and a Mr. T autograph should do the trick if it's a S&T.

[spurraider21]

assuming duncan and manu sign vet mins which they should but won't, it would be possible. also aldridge should sign a one year contract for less so he can cash in next year..


:depressed


If koolaid man was a spurfan he'd make posts like this tbh

[Russ]

Locals in Portland say LMA has already given notice to the Blazers.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/jun/25/sources-aldridge-tells-blazers-he-wont-be-back/

[SupremeGuy]

Locals in Portland say LMA has already given notice to the Blazers.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/jun/25/sources-aldridge-tells-blazers-he-wont-be-back/Not official until tspence reports it, tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Hey, maybe Portland can include Mason Plumlee in the S&T for Aldridge. I could go for that.

[Hoops Czar]

Locals in Portland say LMA has already given notice to the Blazers.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/jun/25/sources-aldridge-tells-blazers-he-wont-be-back/

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/539644405494556317/47C2F86059C34ABA50098707C2A959F1E3327B08/

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

It was just reported that Olshey denied Aldridge told them anything about leaving.

[Nathan89]

This place is going to burn to the ground when we are unable to get Aldridge because of Tony's fat...contract.

[Nathan89]

Wondering who the backup plan is if Aldridge doesn't workout tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Wondering who the backup plan is if Aldridge doesn't workout tbh.
:hang

[BatManu20]

Wondering who the backup plan is if Aldridge doesn't workout tbh.

David West, most likely.

[TheGoldStandard]

David West, most likely.

That would be sad

[BatManu20]

Although, reports today suggest David West is "very likely" sign with the Knicks, which is a head-scratcher.

[Nathan89]

Although, reports today suggest David West is "very likely" sign with the Knicks, which is a head-scratcher.

It's also strange that he didn't opt into that contract.

[Duncan2177]

Although, reports today suggest David West is "very likely" sign with the Knicks, which is a head-scratcher.

Why would he want to go to that shit team? :lol Crazy

[BatManu20]

It's also strange that he didn't opt into that contract.

He reportedly really wanted out of Indy. Not sure I blame him.

[Rapper]

I can't see the possibility of LMA coming to SA if the spurs are going to re-sign both of Duncan and Ginobili

[Rapper]

Every year I 've heard a lot of rumors that the spurs would sign someone big in summer but i have been disappointed year after year

[Mal]

Every year I 've had heard a lot of rumors that the spurs would sign someone big in summer but i have been disappointed year after year

Yet again, every year you heard that Spurs are done, last year was their last chance blah blah.

[Rapper]

Who was the last big fish the spurs had fished up? OH I know

---Richard Jefferson---

[Splits]

Welcome to San Antonio Roy Hibbert!

[Hoops Czar]

Welcome to San Antonio Ed Davis.

[benfti]

Do we even have to lose Mills?
I would be devo if we lost Mills, I actually think keeping him improves our chance of getting LMA, they were very good friend at the Blazers and still are.

[TheGoldStandard]

Welcome to San Antonio Roy Hibbert!

Hahaha that would be hilarious

[ceperez]

Although, reports today suggest David West is "very likely" sign with the Knicks, which is a head-scratcher.

Also weird because West turned down his option with the Pacers. He'll never make the kind of money he turned down.

I doubt he's going to a non-contender like the Knicks.

[Hoops Czar]

Also weird because West turned down his option with the Pacers. He'll never make the kind of money he turned down.

I doubt he's going to a non-contender like the Knicks.

David West will be 35 years old by the start of next season. Talk about flushing money down the toilet. Let him enjoy the Knicks limelife.

[cd98]

Just note that Splitter didn't get traded last night. Not a guarantee that the Spurs think they have Aldridge.

[Duncan2177]

Blazers fans they think think they can keep Aldridge and get Kawhi. :lol
http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/lma-denies-the-reports.286222/page-7

[dabom]

Blazers fans they think think they can keep Aldridge and get Kawhi. :lol
http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/lma-denies-the-reports.286222/page-7

I saw that earlier. They think they can pay more than the spurs. :lmao

[CGD]

Wondering who the backup plan is if Aldridge doesn't workout tbh.

Brook Lopez

[spurraider21]

i really like brook lopez, but he's basically missed 2 of the last 4 seasons

[Clipper Nation]

http://i57.tinypic.com/29f3xv4.jpg
:lmao

[Holden_Caulfield]

in before 100 pages

[jon123spurs]

Jared Zwerling (@JaredZwerling) tweeted at 1:42 PM on Fri, Jun 26, 2015:
Also hearing, as some others, that Aldridge has "real chance" for Spurs. A source said "Need to restructure couple things & trade Splitter."
(https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/614504109249531904?s=03)

[tholdren]

Jared Zwerling (@JaredZwerling) tweeted at 1:42 PM on Fri, Jun 26, 2015:
Also hearing, as some others, that Aldridge has "real chance" for Spurs. A source said "Need to restructure couple things & trade Splitter."
(https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/614504109249531904?s=03)


fingers crossed that portland recognizes Splitter's true market value and throws in lillard to make it even

[BillMc]

fingers crossed that portland recognizes Splitter's true market value and throws in lillard to make it even

:lol But LMA doesn't like playing with Lillard

[peacemaker885]

Is that really from TP? If it is then its probably a lock.

[tholdren]

:lol But LMA doesn't like playing with Lillard

Shits gone get cray when he plays with frenchie -

Another reason I am uncertain about Aldridge. Do we really want someone who can't get along with other professionals?

[BillMc]

Shits gone get cray when he plays with frenchie -

Another reason I am uncertain about Aldridge. Do we really want someone who can't get along with other professionals?

Hopefully team culture keeps it in line. Spurs have a history though of getting rid of malcontents rather than finding ways of making it work. Dennis Rodman anyone? DeJuan Blair?

Obviously, LMA seems like a good character guy, not sure what is going on in Portland...

[Sean Cagney]

Is that really from TP? If it is then its probably a lock.:lol, no it's not from TP man.

[tholdren]

Hopefully team culture keeps it in line. Spurs have a history though of getting rid of malcontents rather than finding ways of making it work. Dennis Rodman anyone? DeJuan Blair?

Obviously, LMA seems like a good character guy, not sure what is going on in Portland...

What are Blazer takes on LMA - like him? think he's soft? prefer Lillard?

[BillMc]

What are Blazer takes on LMA - like him? think he's soft? prefer Lillard?

No idea. Where's Tlong when you need him?

[Mikeanaro]

No idea. Where's Tlong when you need him?
Tlong= :hang

[BillMc]

Tlong= :hang
:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Wonder if Brooklyn could use Splitter considering Plums now gone... Would you trade for a future 1st?

[look_at_g_shred]

Wonder who "the source" is.... Anyone think it's from the Spurs camp??

[spurraider21]

Wonder if Brooklyn could use Splitter considering Plums now gone... Would you trade for a future 1st?
they could especially use him once brook lopez opts out... if aldridge doesnt work a sign and trade for lopez could be a contingency plan

[101A]

Wonder who "the source" is.... Anyone think it's from the Spurs camp??


The source is this thread.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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It has been widely assumed in league circles that the Spurs would be forced to try to trade veteran forward Tiago Splitter to help create the needed salary-cap flexibility to handle the max deals San Antonio has earmarked for Leonard and the likes of Aldridge or Memphis' Marc Gasol and still have room to accommodate Duncan and Ginobili at reduced salaries if the latter two chose to play on. But sources told ESPN.com that the Spurs actually rebuffed trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft, raising the possibility that Splitter might also stick around.

[raybies]

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So according to this they value Tiago more than Danny. And I must point out, that there was interest in Splitter.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So according to this they value Tiago more than Danny. And I must point out, that there was interest in Splitter.

Could also be that they're holding off on trades until they get a promise from Aldridge.

[timtonymanu]

If the Spurs ditch Green :pctoss

[raybies]

Just wondering, if the Spurs renounced Marco, Manu, Duncan, and Green, wouldn't that be enough for the max? How much could Duncan and Manu get in this scenario? Would they take that lil?

Maybe if they gave some guaranteed money for year 2 with player options?

[cd98]

Could also be that they're holding off on trades until they get a promise from Aldridge.

This makes the most sense. They can always trade Splitter for a future first round pick.

[look_at_g_shred]

So according to this they value Tiago more than Danny. And I must point out, that there was interest in Splitter.
Yep. Looks like the FO seems to think Tiago is an integral part of the team. I think the Spurs will make danny an offer and if he doesn't take it, they are content with letting him walk.

[RD2191]

I trust the Spurs. I know they aren't dumb enough to move Splitter unless they can sign a defensive center.

[DPG21920]

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It has been widely assumed in league circles that the Spurs would be forced to try to trade veteran forward Tiago Splitter to help create the needed salary-cap flexibility to handle the max deals San Antonio has earmarked for Leonard (and the likes of Aldridge or Memphis' Marc Gasol) and still have room to accommodate Duncan and Ginobili at reduced salaries, if the latter two choose to play on. But sources told ESPN.com that the Spurs actually rebuffed trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft, raising the possibility that Splitter might stick around.

The futures are less clear for Spurs sharpshooters Danny Green and Marco Belinelli, two unrestricted free agents who played pivotal roles off the bench in helping San Antonio make back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals in 2013 and 2014 -- and win it all in '14 in a second consecutive Finals showdown with the Miami Heat.

Just stunning. I really, really hope Spurs aren't letting Danny go. Of course, if they are letting Danny go, I would rather them have Tiago for the C position, but they should be able to just let one of Tiago and Danny go and IMO it should be Tiago.

Damn, I was not expecting this at all - especially if they turned down actual offers to move up in the draft and clear the cap space. They have easily earned the right to be trusted, but wow. It must mean they really have no idea if LMA/Gasol will come and are not even thinking of taking a risk.

Good news is there is interest in Splitter.

[cd98]

Also, I don't think Spurs can part with both Green and Belinelli. They need shooting, and if they lose those two, basically their three point shooting goes way down. They'll need one of those two and hopefully can replace the other with a cheaper option in free agency. I'm guessing they do everything within reason to sign Danny as they will have a hard time replacing his defense and three point shooting.

[K...]

Maybe they have a deal and it's better than draft picks. Maybe

[SpursFan86]

I'm not sure it necessarily means they plan on letting Danny walk. I think they're just being prudent and and making sure LMA is actually intending on signing here before trading off a bunch of guys. It would've been terrible if we traded Splitter on draft night with the sole intention of freeing up cap space, and then Aldridge ends up going to Dallas or some shit.

If it comes down to letting Green walk vs. trading Splitter, it seems like a no-brainer to me. We already have Duncan + Diaw + LMA (in the scenario he chooses to come here, obviously)...who the hell would our starting SG be if Green doesn't return? Obviously not Manu. Mills? No thanks.

[raybies]

What I don't understand is if they like Splitter more than Danny, why not draft at least one wing for insurance. Instead we drafted two bigs. IMO they didn't get an offer they liked. Teams probably low balled them or they didn't like any prospects available. They could just be making a stand to drive up value for him in case they really do need to trade them. Just don't see how that's smart cause they would have lil leverage. They would have to find a team that really wanted him.

[DPG21920]

Other than the Tiago/Danny news, this is the first national account of Tim & Manu. It was also great to hear (even if it's not confirmed) that Tim/Manu seem to be willing to do what it takes financially to make things works as best as possible.

It's huge with Tim's money, but just as much for Manu. It would be even more amazing if the Spurs do what we have discussed (sign Tim, keep TP/Boris/Kyle/KL/Green while having LMA come into the fold.) Then add Manu to that unexpectedly?

[SpursFan86]

What I don't understand is if they like Splitter more than Danny, why not draft at least one wing for insurance. Instead we drafted two bigs. IMO they didn't get an offer they liked. Teams probably low balled them or they didn't like any prospects available. They could just be making a stand to drive up value for him in case they really do need to trade them. Just don't see how that's smart cause they would have lil leverage. They would have to find a team that really wanted him.

Again, I think they're just being cautious. Even if we free up enough room to offer LMA the max, it's far from a given at this point that he'd choose SA. What happens when they trade Splitter, LMA ends up choosing somewhere else, and we're stuck with Diaw/Duncan being our only competent bigs? I guess we would likely keep Baynes in that scenario, but it's not like a Diaw/Duncan/Baynes rotation is impressive either.

[DPG21920]

My only concern is letting Green go. I really hope that's not the case.

I can definitely understand why SA wouldn't move Tiago until they get the ok. Sure, getting a top 20 pick (speculating) for Tiago which free's up the cap space and gives you a shot at cheap talent is great, but not worth the risk. That player they drafted while cheap, isn't any more likely to contribute than a min level player they can sign and it's the same amount of money anyways.

Unless there was someone who blew you away like Kawhi, you can't take that risk.

[Juan]

Wouldn't read too much into this. IMO this just means Aldridge has not committed to the Spurs 100% yet and the Spurs would never get rid of Splitter without assurance from Aldridge that he's signing. They would be fools to do so. Article doesn't shed insight into anything other than Aldridge is clearly still undecided

[Mr. Body]

I really don't want to see Green go. He's a tremendous starter for us, really. I'm firmly in the camp of giving up Splitter for Aldridge if necessary. But if a team can dump a pick for Splitter last night, as suggested, they may be happy to give future picks.

Teams overrate their current picks and discount their future ones. It could be good to take advantage.

[Outlier]

I'd rather lose Green than Splitter if we were able to get Aldridge. All that front court depth. And synergy with Aldridge and Splitter for the future... Theyre both 30?

[SpursFan86]

I'd rather lose Green than Splitter if we were able to get Aldridge. All that front court depth. And synergy with Aldridge and Splitter for the future... Theyre both 30?

All that frontcourt depth...and absolutely terrible guard depth.

Makes no sense to choose Splitter over Green. Aldridge/Duncan/Diaw is a fantastic rotation already. Our SG situation is abysmal without Green. What are we going to do, start Manu? Start Mills at SG? Sign some random scrub for the minimum and have him be a starter on a supposed title contender?

It'd be a huge mistake to choose Splitter over Green. Not to mention Splitter's health is an issue, whereas Danny hasn't even missed 20 games over the past 4 seasons combined.

[bklynspursfan]

Could also be that they're holding off on trades until they get a promise from Aldridge.

This is what I'm hoping/assuming

[Outlier]

Shooters are easy to find. Bring Duncan off the bench, it makes sense because his game and Aldridge don't mix. Youre underrating that aspect of having an all star PF for all of 48 minutes with complementing big men in Diaw and Splitter. We'd absolutely wreck teams.

[Outlier]

You can find more serviceable guards in free agency for cheap than serviceable big men. Fact. You'd have to shell at least 8 mil for an average big man.

[Outlier]

We cant depend on Duncan anymore to carry us with his superhuman ability during the playoffs. Its not fair to him.

[BillMc]

This is what I'm hoping/assuming

Me too.

[Malik Hairston]

Shooters are easy to find. Bring Duncan off the bench, it makes sense because his game and Aldridge don't mix. Youre underrating that aspect of having an all star PF for all of 48 minutes with complementing big men in Diaw and Splitter. We'd absolutely wreck teams.

:lol it's 2015, wing depth is much more valuable than big depth, at this point..

Spurs' defense with Parker/random SG/Aldridge/Duncan would fall off a cliff..

[look_at_g_shred]

People who are saying to let green go cause we can find shooter easily are beyond crazy! When it comes to green, his shooting is the last thing that comes to mind :lol his defense is what I'm concerned about losing. Sure we could let him go and find another shooter, but there is no way his defense will be replaceable. I've said this before and I'll say it again. If We lose green, we lose our championship aspirations as well regardless if we have LMA/gasol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol it's 2015, wing depth is much more valuable than big depth, at this point..

Spurs' defense with Parker/random SG/Aldridge/Duncan would fall off a cliff..

Aldridge is not ever going to make an all defensive team but the Blazers have played pretty good team defense the past few years with Lillard and Matthews as on the ball defenders 40+ mins a night. Backups like Williams and Blake have compounded that. Batum was dynamic but Lopez and Matthew have trouble with quickness. Lillard is one of the weakest defenders I have ever seen. Watching him 'fight' through ball screens, I don't blame LA wanting to leave.

Aldridge is not a shot blocker but he would be more than capable of the positional get your hands up and cut off penetration rotation that we ask our PF and C to run. I don't think replacement level talent is much worse than what he has seen from the guards he has been playing with. He isn't a plodder and he is one of the better defensive rebounders in the NBA.

[Outlier]

:lol it's 2015, wing depth is much more valuable than big depth, at this point..

Spurs' defense with Parker/random SG/Aldridge/Duncan would fall off a cliff..

The Spurs always set their own trend and the rest of the league follows. Not the other way around.

[AFBlue]

Could also be that they're holding off on trades until they get a promise from Aldridge.

This. Why would the Spurs trade Splitter without assurance they can land Aldridge? Once that is determined there should be no problem trading Splitter...a serviceable big on a manageable contract.

[AFBlue]

Plus, if it plays out that Green signs elsewhere before Aldridge makes his decision, the Spurs could trade Splitter for guard depth. He's a good trade asset.

[Chinook]

Plus, if it plays out that Green signs elsewhere before Aldridge makes his decision, the Spurs could trade Splitter for guard depth. He's a good trade asset.

To the Celtics for Dekker and Thornton.

[eDizzle20]

It's still unknown how much Green will command in free agency. If the Mavs strike out on Jordan and Aldridge I could see them offering Green something ridiculous like they did Parsons. Splitter is set to make approximately $8 million next season and Duncan's minutes will continue to be limited this season. It's well documented that Aldridge does not want to play center either. Maybe a guy like McDaniels will be available for a reasonable price as a possible replacement.

[palangi]

Aldridge is not ever going to make an all defensive team but the Blazers have played pretty good team defense the past few years with Lillard and Matthews as on the ball defenders 40+ mins a night. Backups like Williams and Blake have compounded that. Batum was dynamic but Lopez and Matthew have trouble with quickness. Lillard is one of the weakest defenders I have ever seen. Watching him 'fight' through ball screens, I don't blame LA wanting to leave.

Aldridge is not a shot blocker but he would be more than capable of the positional get your hands up and cut off penetration rotation that we ask our PF and C to run. I don't think replacement level talent is much worse than what he has seen from the guards he has been playing with. He isn't a plodder and he is one of the better defensive rebounders in the NBA.

Aldridge seemed to do a lot of blocking against Memphis in the playoffs

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge

[Uriel]

It has been widely assumed in league circles that the Spurs would be forced to try to trade veteran forward Tiago Splitter to help create the needed salary-cap flexibility to handle the max deals San Antonio has earmarked for Leonard and the likes of Aldridge or Memphis' Marc Gasol and still have room to accommodate Duncan and Ginobili at reduced salaries if the latter two chose to play on. But sources told ESPN.com that the Spurs actually rebuffed trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft, raising the possibility that Splitter might also stick around.






This doesn't make any sense. If the Spurs would rather keep Splitter than Green, then why draft the former's replacement in Multinov than the latter's replacement in Hunter?

[Outlier]

This doesn't make any sense. If the Spurs would rather keep Splitter than Green, then why draft the former's replacement in Multinov than the latter's replacement in Hunter?

So Aldridge can have plenty of rest and extend his career?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So Aldridge can have plenty of rest and extend his career?

Having two other quality big men, followed by a couple decent end of the bench guys, is more than enough for rest. Duncan/Diaw/Splitter/Aldridge is very cluttered.

[CGD]

Could also be that they're holding off on trades until they get a promise from Aldridge.

Why folks here can't see this point is beyond me. Why the fuck do you trade Tiago just to show LMA that you have the cap space to sign him? It's pointless. Line up a trade partner now by assessing interest during the trade, Wait until LMA commits, and THEN execute the trade. Why is it so hard for people to understand leverage?

[Outlier]

Having two other quality big men, followed by a couple decent end of the bench guys, is more than enough for rest. Duncan/Diaw/Splitter/Aldridge is very cluttered.

Duncan is here for at most two more years. Spurs are thinking ahead of that.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Duncan is here for at most two more years. Spurs are thinking ahead of that.

By that point we won't know how much value Splitter has left, which isn't smart to bank on years from now.

[Sean Cagney]

We cant depend on Duncan anymore to carry us with his superhuman ability during the playoffs. Its not fair to him.

^^^^ Yep, Dirk even said he would come off the bench and could not lead a team anymore as the #1 and the Spurs just sat back in games 5-7 besides Mills and watched Tim take over games and try to win on his own. Tim needs some help, get it for him.

[AFBlue]

Whether he signs or not, I think it's awesome that the Spurs are actually considered a front runner to lure a marquee free agent like Aldridge. It's truly a testament to the culture, coaches and franchise players on this team. Having players from outside the team publicly admire it and want to be a part of it is very cool to see.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This doesn't make any sense. If the Spurs would rather keep Splitter than Green, then why draft the former's replacement in Multinov than the latter's replacement in Hunter?

You guys keep trying to back door into reality by assuming motivation. While that may be a factor and the way they look at it, I doubt that it actually is.

[Ditty]

Love to Portland, Splitter to Cleveland, Aldridge and Kaun to SA?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Love to Portland, Splitter to Cleveland, Aldridge and Kaun to SA?

That may actually work.

[TheGreatYacht]

Love to Portland, Splitter to Cleveland, Aldridge and Kaun to SA?
Makes sense tbh

[TheGoldStandard]

Green probably walks, they sign some d league scrub who gets burned by curry or Thompson, reddick and cp3 and durant and Westbrook. Splitter misses 60 games with unknown calf injury.

[RD2191]

Green probably walks, they sign some d league scrub who gets burned by curry or Thompson, reddick and cp3 and durant and Westbrook. Splitter misses 60 games with unknown calf injury.
:lol

[mystargtr34]

Im not sure the Cavs would see Splitter as a big enough upgrade over Mozgov to do that trade.

[spurraider21]

Im not sure the Cavs would see Splitter as a big enough upgrade over Mozgov to do that trade.
if love is intent on leaving, they want to get something in their frontcourt, and splitter has a very team-friendly contract

[RD2191]

I really hope Tiago doesn't get traded. (Cavs especially) Imagine going from one of the classiest franchises in the nba to the shitfest that is the cavs.

[MaNu4Tres]

Love to Portland, Splitter to Cleveland, Aldridge and Kaun to SA?

Why would CLE trade Love for Splitter?

Why would they want Splitter when they have Varajao, Moscov at C?

[TheGoldStandard]

Why would CLE trade Love for Splitter?

Why would they want Splitter when they have Varajao, Moscov at C?

They want a center that Kyrie can block regularly in practice

[mystargtr34]

The only dilemma with splitting this group up (pardon the pun) is i still think a healthy Spurs team of Tiago-Tim-Kawhi-DG-Tp-Boris-Manu-Mills is the best team in the league.. so i'd be nervous about tearing that up even for a guy like Aldridge..

although if it costs Splitter to get Aldridge and all else remains i would be for it. If you come back for another crack with the same group you have to worry about Splitter and Tony's health.. mental fatigue off multiple deep runs the the same group etc.

Weighing those things up.. i would rather sacrifice Tiago if it means getting LMA.

[Ditty]

Why would CLE trade Love for Splitter?

Why would they want Splitter when they have Varajao, Moscov at C?

I think Varejao will put a good word in for Splitter ;)

At the end of the day though I hope their is a way to keep Splitter...

[r0drig0lac]

Why would CLE trade Love for Splitter?

Why would they want Splitter when they have Varajao, Moscov at C?

this. it makes no sense

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Why would CLE trade Love for Splitter?

Why would they want Splitter when they have Varajao, Moscov at C?

It could be under the assumption that Love and Aldridge tell their teams they don't intend on re-signing so they can work out a deal. And they might want Splitter since Varejao is never healthy.

[Sean Cagney]

It could be under the assumption that Love and Aldridge tell their teams they don't intend on re-signing so they can work out a deal. And they might want Splitter since Varejao is never healthy.

Splitter is never healthy man :lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Splitter is never healthy man :lol

This is true, but they may take him on since Varejao has had like four straight season ending injuries :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

It could be under the assumption that Love and Aldridge tell their teams they don't intend on re-signing so they can work out a deal. And they might want Splitter since Varejao is never healthy.

So CLE needs to take on 8.5 mil for a third center?

Would be pretty dumb to trade for Splitter as health insurance for Varajao when they already have Mosgov as his insurance.

Mosgov will be Varajaos back up at C.

If Love doesn't resign, Cavs need a PF off bench who can space the floor offensively since Tristan Thompson wld start.

Splitter makes no sense.

[MaNu4Tres]

Splitter makes sense for Bucks, Knicks, Blazers (if Lopez moves on), and Hawks. Imo

[Ditty]

So CLE needs to take on 8.5 mil for a third center?

Would be pretty dumb to trade for Splitter as health insurance for Varajao when they already have Mosgov as his insurance.

Mosgov will be Varajaos back up at C.

If Love doesn't resign, Cavs need a PF off bench who can space the floor offensively since Tristan Thompson wld start.

Splitter makes no sense.

It's Cleveland though... :lol

They probably think they are good enough to win a championship without Love because they came out in a pretty shitty East.

I think Varejao can sell the Cavs on his very good friend Tiago, and former starter for one of the most dominant NBA championship teams of all time :lol

In all seriousness it's just a thought that was has just been thrown out here. I'm not even sure if you can include two unrestricted free agents in a three team sign and trade.

I just thought about the Kaun interest from the Spurs, and I can see this possibly being something the Spurs can be interested in.

C: Mozgov/Splitter
PF: Thompson/Varejao

can be a very nice big man rotation but as you mentioned the spacing would terrible.

[Vic Petro]

Splitter makes sense for Bucks, Knicks, Blazers (if Lopez moves on), and Hawks. Imo

If Pacers are able to dump Hibbert I'd add them to the list. Maybe a 3 team deal.

[Spur-Addict]

The only dilemma with splitting this group up (pardon the pun) is i still think a healthy Spurs team of Tiago-Tim-Kawhi-DG-Tp-Boris-Manu-Mills is the best team in the league.. so i'd be nervous about tearing that up even for a guy like Aldridge..

although if it costs Splitter to get Aldridge and all else remains i would be for it. If you come back for another crack with the same group you have to worry about Splitter and Tony's health.. mental fatigue off multiple deep runs the the same group etc.

Weighing those things up.. i would rather sacrifice Tiago if it means getting LMA.

Tomorrow matters as much as today. And like you said, some guys are habitually hurt. Aldridge has shown to be very effective despite being hampered by injuries, and is easily one of the better PFs in the league. I'd gladly outright salary dump Splitter to get Aldridge without hesitation.

[BillMc]

As others have said, I think now that the draft has passed nothing will happen with Splitter until after they've talked to LMA in July.

It's a hurry up and wait thing for us now.

[-21-]

Slightly off-topic but if LMA does come here, how would a Duncan/aldridge pairing do on defense? It will be even worse if we lose not only Tiago but Danny as well.

[BillMc]

Slightly off-topic but if LMA does come here, how would a Duncan/aldridge pairing do on defense? It will be even worse if we lose not only Tiago but Danny as well.

It's a good question. I also worry that Timmy will have to do more of the dirty work down in the block on D without Splitter. Given he'll be 40 in next year's playoffs that might be a bit rough.

That said, the long term good of LMA outweigh any short term problems.

[Chillen]

It's a good question. I also worry that Timmy will have to do more of the dirty work down in the block on D without Splitter. Given he'll be 40 in next year's playoffs that might be a bit rough.

That said, the long term good of LMA outweigh any short term problems.

They really have to try and sign Aldridge because as great as Duncan is, how amazing Manu has been you can't count on 2 near 40 year old players to carry your franchise into the future. Leonard/Aldridge is a good start, and it will be a blessing to have Duncan/Manu around for 2 more seasons perhaps.

[Chillen]

Tomorrow matters as much as today. And like you said, some guys are habitually hurt. Aldridge has shown to be very effective despite being hampered by injuries, and is easily one of the better PFs in the league. I'd gladly outright salary dump Splitter to get Aldridge without hesitation.

Splitter is a solid player, but Aldridge is an all-star. So yeah, if getting Aldridge costs the Spurs Splitter, so be it.

[spurspokesman]

Splitter is a good big man but is oft injured and at times plays twinkie like basketball. I'm all for Aldridge if the opportunity presents itself.

[kobyz]

Splitter is soft, lability on offense, lack motivation playing basketball, injury prone, peapole here think splitter could be traded easily, lol!

[jsandiego]

Splitter's post defense is elite, and I'd hate to miss it. But the Pick & Pop offense with TP/LMA will be an additional dynamic to the offense we don't currently have outside of Duncan's deteriorating jump shot.

I also think with LMA being such a strong dude, that his defense can improve. Hopefully his offensive capabilities would outweigh the defensive losses come playoff time.

If Splitter's hurt again come playoff time and he's not on our team, then we made the right choice :)


Edit: This is all pointless if we don't re-sign Danny Green. We need WingStop around to guard Splash Bros.

[pad300]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238423/Spurs-Rejected-Trade-Interest-In-Tiago-Splitter

Apparently we rejected some offers for Splitter on draft night. No details on what the offers were...

[MultiTroll]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238423/Spurs-Rejected-Trade-Interest-In-Tiago-Splitter

Apparently we rejected some offers for Splitter on draft night. No details on what the offers were...
Like one of the comments said, the Spurs could wait to get a verbal from LA, then trade Splitts.

Sure a couple NBA lowlifes have burned teams with a verbal (Boozer), but that doesn't mean LA is an ingrate.

[Big P]

Or it could be that they use Splitter in a s&t for LMA....there was no need to trade Splitter on draft night...the FO was not going to draft anyone that was going to play this year for the Spurs.

[Ditty]

I thought the Spurs could keep Green as long as they sign Tim, Manu, Aldridge(S&T that included Spliiter/Mills or Anderson), Green(using bird rights) and Leonard in that order?

[benefactor]

Perhaps the Spurs already have a deal in place that they will revisit when Aldridge gives them the go...something like Splitter to Phoenix for Marcus Morris and Devin Booker. They get a solid, veteran center on a short contract to spell Len or step in if need be and shed a longer contract in the process. I know Spur fan doesn't think so, but Splitter is easily valuable enough to warrant them sending Booker...who obviously won't replace Danny Green completely but is a nice consolation prize and can likely step right in and contribute immediately. Replacing the garbage PF depth the Spurs have with Morris works out well too, even if his contract isn't the most palatable.

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs don't trade Splitter directly in a S&T for LMA, they can't trade him for taking back money because they have to use cap space to sign LMA. Unless you are meaning Danny walks too.

[Spur|n|Austin]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238423/Spurs-Rejected-Trade-Interest-In-Tiago-Splitter

Apparently we rejected some offers for Splitter on draft night. No details on what the offers were...

That contract is right where it has to be. It was front loaded so the next two years on that deal are relatively cheap. Not to mention the skill set Tiago brings to the table would be a huge addition to any team needing a big.

[ginobilized]

Oh the indignity of having to wait!

LMA would be the biggest addition in free agency in my life as a Spurs fan. IF he does come to the Spurs, I think the lost defense of Splitter will be more than replaced by the extra defensive pressure Aldridge will create.
I'll check back in July.

[benefactor]

Unless you are meaning Danny walks too.
Honestly, I expect him too...hence the trade involving Booker.

[DPG21920]

Honestly, I expect him too...hence the trade involving Booker.

Well that would suck terribly IMO. Splitter+Danny > LMA/Booker/Morris (especially because of the trouble and emo-ness of the Morris Twins).

[Spur|n|Austin]

I've got a hunch Danny stays - I know money talks but he's also a loyal player, and I'd imagine he and the FO can work something out. He'd have no career in the NBA if the Spurs hadn't given him a 2nd/3rd chance.

[Mugen]

Danny's paid back the franchise by being a huge part of deep runs and a championship. Get that money, homieeeeeee

[benefactor]

Well that would suck terribly IMO. Splitter+Danny > LMA/Booker/Morris (especially because of the trouble and emo-ness of the Morris Twins).
Of course...but I'm working under the assumption Danny will walk and the Spurs must trade Splitter in order to sign LMA. I'm well aware that the Spurs aren't going to get equal value for Splitter/Danny because of their defensive impact within the system, but it's far better than salary dumping Splitter to make room and letting Danny walk for nothing.

[benefactor]

I've got a hunch Danny stays - I know money talks but he's also a loyal player, and I'd imagine he and the FO can work something out. He'd have no career in the NBA if the Spurs hadn't given him a 2nd/3rd chance.
Danny is a pretty flashy guy and likes to be seen. He's also Pop's whipping boy. I think he takes his success and turns into a payday elsewhere.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Danny is a pretty flashy guy and likes to be seen. He's also Pop's whipping boy. I think he takes his success and turns into a payday elsewhere.

These next few weeks are going to be a bit of a roller coaster. Hey ST --

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m48kj1M5tG1r7tfy9o2_500.gif

[SpurPadre]

I'm sure Danny still remembers this too:

http://i.imgur.com/ic0ZMVx.gif

[DPG21920]

Of course...but I'm working under the assumption Danny will walk and the Spurs must trade Splitter in order to sign LMA. I'm well aware that the Spurs aren't going to get equal value for Splitter/Danny because of their defensive impact within the system, but it's far better than salary dumping Splitter to make room and letting Danny walk for nothing.

Well that's what I was referring to. Spurs won't have to trade Tiago if what you believe is true. You don't have to dump both. You only need one gone: Danny or Tiago. If you think Danny walks, no reason to trade Tiago, you'll have the cap space to sign LMA (with other minor moves).

[LakerHater]

Why doesnt Peter Holt pay the cap hit, he can afford it!

Besides doesnt the cap go up the following season anyway, so he'd only pay the hit for 1 season.

[Drachen]

Why doesnt Peter Holt pay the cap hit, he can afford it!

Besides doesnt the cap go up the following season anyway, so he'd only pay the hit for 1 season.

It's not about going over the cap (they might do that anyway) they cannot sign lma you a Max contract if they don't already have the space to do it. Then they can sign their own FAs by going over the cap.

Also, holy is by far the poorest owner in the nba

[spurraider21]

Why doesnt Peter Holt pay the cap hit, he can afford it!

Besides doesnt the cap go up the following season anyway, so he'd only pay the hit for 1 season.
It's a salary cap issue not a luxury tax issue. We can keep everybody no problem, but then can't sign anybody new

[Thompson]

If Aldridge does come here, when would he be likely to sign? I'm wondering how long all of this will be up in the air.

[Vic Petro]

If Aldridge does come here, when would he be likely to sign? I'm wondering how long all of this will be up in the air.

Aldridge has been quoted as saying he wants the process over with quickly:


Teams are eligible to start recruiting Aldridge on July 1. He said he doesn't intend to make his decision a drawn out process.

"I'm definitely not one to prolong things or drag it out,'' Aldridge said. "That's not really my personality."

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2015/04/lamarcus_aldridge_on_his_portland_future_of_course .html

I'd bet we know one way or the other before next weekend begins. Maybe even by eod Wednesday.

[Ditty]

I wouldn't be shocked if Aldridge makes his decision by next weekend and half the illegal fire works popped in the San Antonio city limits are celebration for Aldridge

[Chillen]

No one has brought this up but one of the factors in Aldridge signing has to be if Pop stays as head coach the length of his contract. Is Pop really up for coaching another 5 years?

[BatManu20]

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[spurraider21]

614601276010176512
If only mark Davis paid attention to Xmas, tweets and moved to San Antonio, we could've had the Raiders pitch for them to join the Spurs

[Thomas82]

If Aldridge does come here, when would he be likely to sign? I'm wondering how long all of this will be up in the air.

Wednesday, July 1 is the day teams can start recruiting players, but I believe July 9 is the day when players can officially sign their contracts.

[SpursFanInAustin]

Wednesday, July 1 is the day teams can start recruiting players, but I believe July 9 is the day when players can officially sign their contracts.

But players and teams can agree to terms before the 9th

[PingPong]

Nigga wants to be the #1 star in a contender team. Otherwise, he should stay in Portland or go to L.A.L or Cleveland.

[montgod]

No one has brought this up but one of the factors in Aldridge signing has to be if Pop stays as head coach the length of his contract. Is Pop really up for coaching another 5 years?

I think with the addition of LMA, it might encourage him to stay longer especially if the expected results of winning another occurs. He could at least stay 2 extra years with the thought that Duncan signs on for 2 more to try for that elusive back-to-back win if next year is a banner year. In any event, Pop (and who ever follows him - in house person probably) for 2-5 years is still better than Byron Scott and rookies, and the Mavs and their coach imo.

[Spur|n|Austin]

614601276010176512

Ugh, Dallas and their famous three ring circus when recruiting.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he ends up there; I'm just ready for some news next week, one way or the other.

[loveforthegame]

I can't believe some players love the dog and pony shows some teams put on for free agents. It's embarrassing.

[Big P]

I don't think JJ and Dez are going to sway LMA one way or another. Aldridge is really laid back and probably not into all the ass kissing. Jerry can't even get Dez to sign on the dotted line, how is he supposed to help with LMA?

[Seventyniner]

Ugh, Dallas and their famous three ring circus when recruiting.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he ends up there; I'm just ready for some news next week, one way or the other.

If Aldridge really gets swayed by all that and signs in Dallas, then forget him, he wouldn't be a good fit in SA anyway.

[Uriel]

Aldridge has been quoted as saying he wants the process over with quickly:



http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2015/04/lamarcus_aldridge_on_his_portland_future_of_course .html

I'd bet we know one way or the other before next weekend begins. Maybe even by eod Wednesday.
Good news. :tu The Spurs are already reported to be his most likely destination. The sooner he makes a decision, the more likely it is he chooses San Antonio.

[Uriel]

I can't believe some players love the dog and pony shows some teams put on for free agents. It's embarrassing.
I'm sure those teams don't like doing it either. But hey, it works. You gotta do what you gotta do.


If Aldridge really gets swayed by all that and signs in Dallas, then forget him, he wouldn't be a good fit in SA anyway.
Hey, when Orlando was recruiting Duncan, they used Tiger Woods and Disneyland. And it almost worked. You can't blame people for wanting to feel wanted. It's human nature.

[loveforthegame]

I'm sure those teams don't like doing it either. But hey, it works. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Hey, when Orlando was recruiting Duncan, they used Tiger Woods and Disneyland. And it almost worked. You can't blame people for wanting to feel wanted. It's human nature.

I don't mind recruiting. Rumors have Leonard and Duncan making a pitch to Aldridge too. I guess I'm in the less is more camp. I'd rather hear from the team trying to lure me and leave the rest out.

[NickiRasgo]

Is it possible that the Spurs would be able to retain Splitter and Green (including Duncan and Manu)? If Aldrige signs with us or without trading any player?
Assuming Green signs with 1 year deal and wait for the cap space extension next season? Then don't re-sign CoJo, Belli, Baynes, etc. but would still be able to sign a free agent for cheap.
Does the Spurs really don't want to exceed cap space limit even if they'll pay for the taxes?

Just want to ask also, what's the limit once a team exceeds the cap space limit? As long the owner is willing to pay? Example just like Knicks last 2006 I think they hit $120M player's payroll.

[BillMc]

Probably already posted but First Take (guest) cast all think LMA is headed our way and it will be a good fit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNg5iPjzVNw

[Ditty]

I think it's 90% LA lands in SA tbh and from what I'm hearing. Houston will meet up with on day one, but it seems like it will be more of a courtesy meet with them.

[Thomas82]

But players and teams can agree to terms before the 9th

Believe it or not, that's actually what I was trying to say.

[Sean Cagney]

I think it's 90% LA lands in SA tbh and from what I'm hearing. Houston will meet up with on day one, but it seems like it will be more of a courtesy meet with them.

I would say 50% man, 90 is a little high as of now... I wont be dissapointed if I stay thinking that way.

[cutewizard]

putang ina kung hindi pupunta si LMA sa atin

bad trip na nga, wala pang gustong pumunta sa Spurs

[stxspurs]

putang ina kung hindi pupunta si LMA sa atin

bad trip na nga, wala pang gustong pumunta sa Spurs

I'm sure whatever she wrote was positive! Lol

[jiggy_55]

I think it's 90% LA lands in SA tbh and from what I'm hearing. Houston will meet up with on day one, but it seems like it will be more of a courtesy meet with them.

Houston don't have money to spend, but meeting with a team on Day 1 gives me the feeling he could be seriously interested although making cap space is an issue. I would think you meet with the most important teams or teams most likely you would want to join at first. After that, you would do some courtesy visits.

[Chillen]

Bottom line is if Aldridge wants to be a Spur so bad, he will. They want him and have the cap space to sign him, so if he wants to be in the silver and black it's happening.

[ace3g]

This is the only thing that worries me...

Spurs front-runners in race for MaggetteBy Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/?y), Yahoo Sports Tuesday, Jul 1, 2008

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-spursmaggette070108

[Sean Cagney]

This is the only thing that worries me...

Spurs front-runners in race for MaggetteBy Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/?y), Yahoo Sports Tuesday, Jul 1, 2008

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-spursmaggette070108They have been the front runners a few times since for some players, we hear that a few times and then they go sign with the so called sexier pick. I think Maggette got more at GS though and they offered more PT? I forget but he bolted after it seemed he would sign in SA.

[Chillen]

This is the only thing that worries me...

Spurs front-runners in race for Maggette

By Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/?y), Yahoo Sports Tuesday, Jul 1, 2008

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-spursmaggette070108

That was different, Aldridge is gonna be the Spurs "Main Guy" in 2 years or until Timmy retires. I am sure he knows this he will be the future face of the Spurs, so that has to be exciting.

[Texas_Ranger]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/corey-maggette.jpg

[tholdren]

I can't believe some players love the dog and pony shows some teams put on for free agents. It's embarrassing.
agreed.

[Beaverfuzz]

This is the only thing that worries me...

Spurs front-runners in race for MaggetteBy Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/?y), Yahoo Sports Tuesday, Jul 1, 2008

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-spursmaggette070108

Think of how lucky the Spurs were to not get that big ass contract on their books.

[BatManu20]

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[timtonymanu]

I think it's 90% LA lands in SA tbh and from what I'm hearing. Houston will meet up with on day one, but it seems like it will be more of a courtesy meet with them.

I can believe that. Been believing it since it was announced that Aldridge has interest here.

[ace3g]

^ True and I get the whole "things happen for a reason" but at the time I was caught up in the hype and thought he was was going to sign.

[ace3g]

Kurt Helin @basketballtalk
(https://twitter.com/basketballtalk)Daryl Morey says Rockets more likely to re-sign their own free agents than land a big name dlvr.it/BM3lY4 (http://t.co/O37U0d2GaY)



At 9 p.m. Tuesday night, the Suns can start negotiations with free agents and again approach it with a wide-eyed vision to land a much-needed star.

The Suns are expected to start with pursuits of All-Star power forwards Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge, who are unrestricted free agents, and have another priority to quickly reach contract terms with their restricted free agent, guard Brandon Knight. Signings will start July 10.

The Suns have about $12 million of salary cap space, although they will be allowed to exceed the cap in re-signing Knight. Love and Aldridge would demand maximum-level contracts, which would entail the Suns trading players to create the space.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/06/27/phoenix-suns-go-big-stature-size-free-agency/29410783/

[BatManu20]

Found tlongII on Twitter.

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[Mugen]

^tlong is a 70yo "bachelor" ... That looks more like ElNono trolling tschlong tbh.

[ElNono]

^tlong is a 70yo "bachelor" ... That looks more like ElNono trolling tschlong tbh.

:lol that guy looks cuban, tbh... the cuban tschlong...

[ElNono]

Talking bout LMA, I was at a Costco gas station here in NJ, and the guy manning the pump suddenly asks me "so you guys are getting Lamarcus?"... I'm like wtf, and realize I'm wearing a Spurs shirt, and tell the guy "don't know yet", and he tells me he's from Portland and he was hoping LMA stays...

So there you have it, completely random story that doesn't include molasses on it...

[Trainwreck2100]

More like Cuban elnono

[DPG21920]

This is the only thing that worries me...

Spurs front-runners in race for MaggetteBy Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/?y), Yahoo Sports Tuesday, Jul 1, 2008

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-spursmaggette070108

Huge difference is the money. Spurs had way less money to offer Maggette. Spurs will have equal money to everyone except POR.

[AFBlue]

Talking bout LMA, I was at a Costco gas station here in NJ, and the guy manning the pump suddenly asks me "so you guys are getting Lamarcus?"... I'm like wtf, and realize I'm wearing a Spurs shirt, and tell the guy "don't know yet", and he tells me he's from Portland and he was hoping LMA stays...

So there you have it, completely random story that doesn't include molasses on it...

:lol

[Darius Bieber]

Lakers willing to offer Aldridge 80 Million for four years.

[noles1983]

Lakers willing to offer Aldridge 80 Million for four years.

Aldridge isn't going to give up more money in Portland to go to an even shittier team in LA. I am only worried about Mavs really. Trying not to get my hopes up but its hard.

[timtonymanu]

I would be very surprised if he went anywhere else, tbh. If he really wants to win, he will choose the Spurs. The Mavs are the only other team realistically that I see him going to, but I still like our chances much more. He's not going to the Lakers. :lmao

[Mugen]

I would be very surprised if he went anywhere else, tbh. If he really wants to win, he will choose the Spurs. The Mavs are the only other team realistically that I see him going to, but I still like our chances much more. He's not going to the Lakers. :lmao

I'm still iffy on it my brotha. If this nigga is truly serious about playing for 'ships then the Spurs are the only choice tbh.

[BatManu20]

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[Mugen]

Can the Mavs afford Alrdige and Green? I'm assuming yes if Ellis and Chandler aren't brought back right?

[BatManu20]

Knicks fans becoming as delusional as Laker fans :lol


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIm_KyeXAAA7W6g.jpg

[Chillen]

615202552641142784



Kobe will probably be the head coach for the Lakers on that third year in the deal.

[BatManu20]

Can the Mavs afford Alrdige and Green? I'm assuming yes if Ellis and Chandler aren't brought back right?

Yes, hypothetically they could.

[ElNono]

:lol the meltdown in this place if LMA goes somewhere else...

[DPG21920]

Well, damn LMA! Treating this FA like the got damn Bachelorette.

[BatManu20]

Not sure if it affects their plan at all, but the Mavs just drafted Justin Anderson, who's pretty much a Danny Green clone.

[DesignatedT]

I'm sure LA wants to know if Pop is going to stick around for awhile. I'd imagine that being an important issue regarding his decision.

[BatManu20]

:lol the meltdown in this place if LMA goes somewhere else...

:lol I'm not nearly as confident as most ST'ers are about Aldridge coming to SA. Maybe 50/50 for me at best. So I'm planning accordingly.

[BatManu20]

I'm sure LA wants to know if Pop is going to stick around for awhile. I'd imagine that being an important issue regarding his decision.

Definitely. And a long-term plan going forward. With Timmy and Manu about to hang 'em up, I'm sure he wants to hear what their plan is going forward to help re-stock talent. I mean, KD's a FA next summer... (pipe dream, I know).

[Vic Petro]

Not sure if it affects their plan at all, but the Mavs just drafted Justin Anderson, who's pretty much a Danny Green clone.

Could be trying to replicate San Antonio with two defensive wings. Also, road to the title goes through Curry and Thompson.

[timtonymanu]

I'm still iffy on it my brotha. If this nigga is truly serious about playing for 'ships then the Spurs are the only choice tbh.

Yeah I'm convinced he wants to win. Otherwise, he would have stayed in Portland. If he chooses another team, then oh well we get to keep the Golden God

[RD2191]

:lol the meltdown in this place if LMA goes somewhere else...
I'm getting my popcorn ready tbh.:lol

[SpursFan86]

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Can't wait 'til he signs with LA :lol

[007nites]

What are the odds of this passing the Pau thread?

[ace3g]

Can always try and sign one of these guys...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CInfQflUEAImTH7.jpg:large

[FkLA]

Cliff notes on why we are suddenly the overwhelming favorites to land him? Been moving and haven't really been able to keep up tbh.

Also does this mean LDN is gone?

[BatManu20]

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Closing in on Kawhi. While the Spurs await official word that Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are coming back, their first order of business will be swift and simple: Re-signing defensive player of the year Kawhi Leonard to a five-year max deal, league sources told CBSSports.com.


Don't expect any big recruitment meetings, songs or dances when the negotiating floodgates open just after midnight ET Wednesday -- just a simple, quietly executed agreement that will keep Leonard in San Antonio well into his prime. The max deal is likely to have an early-termination option after the fourth season, sources said.


Leonard, who turns 24 on Monday, waited a year to get his commitment from the Spurs so the team would have payroll flexibility. He isn't inclined to do a shorter deal and take advantage of the rising cap next summer; there's injury risk involved, and Leonard will still be young enough to reap the benefits of the higher cap when he hits the market again in 2019.

With Leonard in the fold, the Spurs will immediately focus their attention on unrestricted free agent LaMarcus Aldridge, and there's a legitimate chance he ends up joining the five-time champions, said a person familiar with the situation. The expectation is that Duncan will be back for his 19th season, and that Ginobili will return at a deeply discounted rate, sources said. Ginobili will announce his intentions in a column he will write for an Argentine newspaper.


If there's a fear among Spurs executives, it's that they won't have enough room left to retain Danny Green, who has attracted interest from the Mavs, Blazers and Pistons, sources said.

[Beaverfuzz]

It will be an interesting July.

[tim_duncan_fan]

:lol the meltdown in this place if LMA goes somewhere else...

Free agents never come here. People are deluding themselves.

I woke up to reality today and it's simply not going to happen.

[Manu20]

Cautiously optimistic....The longer LaMarcus drags out his decision the least likely he is coming to SA. If he indeed picks SA I expect it to be announced by Friday or Saturday.

[look_at_g_shred]

Just waiting for the "and now xyz team is now the favorite"

[crc21209]

I love the way that one tweet said "to join forces with Kobe, Deangelo Russel, and Julius Randle" :lol. Like those guys are such big powerhour names. GTFO..

[Malik Hairston]

I love the way that one tweet said "to join forces with Kobe, Deangelo Russel, and Julius Randle" :lol. Like those guys are such big powerhour names. GTFO..

:lol it's just the Lakers effect..Russell seems legit, but Randle has played 1 NBA game and Kobe is one of the worst players in the NBA, tbh..

[Uriel]

If the Spurs are already frontrunners in Aldridge's mind before recruitment even begins, then if the Spurs ultimately don't get him, they must have royally screwed up their pitch.

It's like if you're applying to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia, and get into all four. Your mind is set on going to Harvard, but you decide to visit the other colleges as well to see what they have to offer. You do it out of due diligence, but you're unlikely to change your mind, unless disaster strikes during Harvard's campus tour or something.

[look_at_g_shred]

So is he meeting with the Spurs first?

[Wu36]

So if Love goes to the Lakers does LMA go to the Cavs?

[BillMc]

If the Spurs are already frontrunners in Aldridge's mind before recruitment even begins, then if the Spurs ultimately don't get him, they must have royally screwed up their pitch.

It's like if you're applying to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia, and get into all four. Your mind is set on going to Harvard, but you decide to visit the other colleges as well to see what they have to offer. You do it out of due diligence, but you're unlikely to change your mind, unless disaster strikes during Harvard's campus tour or something.

Well, in your example of campus tours, Princeton has BY FAR the prettiest campus of the schools you mention. If its close, spending 4 years in such a "Disneyland" could sway you. To apply it to the Spurs situation, if Dallas or LA is close to SA in LMA's mind, and they put on a dog and pony show, it might get him. Hopefully, not.

What did Timmy say to Pop when he'd reached his decision after the Magic were pursuing him hard in 2000. Something like:

Timmy: "You know, there's no beach in San Antonio."

Pop: 'There's no beach in Orlando either." :lol

Lucky for us there isn't.

[HI-FI]

:lol the meltdown in this place if LMA goes somewhere else...
I'll only be pissed if he goes to the Lakers. It would be such bullshit that I almost expect it to happen. Hope I'm proven wrong. Also the NBA Forum would reach rock bottom, it's already LG 2.0 at this point. The same cocksuckers that will be bragging about LMA will disappear like roaches if the Lakers implode with him.

[spurraider21]

I'll only be pissed if he goes to the Lakers. It would be such bullshit that I almost expect it to happen. Hope I'm proven wrong. Also the NBA Forum would reach rock bottom, it's already LG 2.0 at this point. The same cocksuckers that will be bragging about LMA will disappear like roaches if the Lakers implode with him.
Opposite for me. Aldridge on the Lakers would pose 0 threat. Aldridge on the mavs/rox/cavs is scary

[ElNono]

I'll only be pissed if he goes to the Lakers. It would be such bullshit that I almost expect it to happen. Hope I'm proven wrong. Also the NBA Forum would reach rock bottom, it's already LG 2.0 at this point. The same cocksuckers that will be bragging about LMA will disappear like roaches if the Lakers implode with him.

I don't like his game, tbh... with Tim around, it might work out, but the prospect long term isn't good, IMO. Then again, beggars can't be choosers and if he becomes a Spur, he'll have my support.

[TXstbobcat]

So does this thread reach 150 pages before LMA turns down the Spurs contract offer???????

[DMC]

I love the way that one tweet said "to join forces with Kobe, Deangelo Russel, and Julius Randle" :lol. Like those guys are such big powerhour names. GTFO..
"join forces"

That's like campaigning with Ron Paul.

[DMC]

Can always try and sign one of these guys...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CInfQflUEAImTH7.jpg:large

Dirk looks like he'd be a hell of a pitcher if he had an arm.

[DMC]

The winner will give him a a player option after 1 year, because he'll want to be a free agent in 2016.

[BillMc]

"join forces"

That's like campaigning with Ron Paul.
:lol

[Hoops Czar]

LMA is the Kobe of bigs. I don't get all the hype surrounding this guy. In eight seasons as the #1 option, he's taken the Blazers to the playoffs five times and only once did they manage to make it out of the first round. Not sure if I would be giddy throwing max money at a player on the wrong side of 30 when there's a 26 year old out there who can do pretty much everything LMA can do and then some. Kevin Love fits the Spurs system like a glove. LMA, not so much.

[monkeypunk]

LMA is the Kobe of bigs. I don't get all the hype surrounding this guy. In eight seasons as the #1 option, he's taken the Blazers to the playoffs five times and only once did they manage to make it out of the first round. Not sure if I would be giddy throwing max money at a player on the wrong side of 30 when there's a 26 year old out there who can do pretty much everything LMA can do and then some. Kevin Love fits the Spurs system like a glove. LMA, not so much.

Problem with your scenario is Kevin Love will never come to SA. He loves the bright lights, big city attention too much. LMA actually has reason to come here...

[rayray2k8]

I wouldn't hold my breath on Aldridge or any FA for that matter. Spurs fans should just focus on them resigning their own players and worry about everything else later. Give Leonard the max, dont over spend on Green and pay Duncan whatever he wants.. Manu is meh for me.

[UZER]

Dirk looks like he'd be a hell of a pitcher if he had an arm.

He has two arms.

[Chinook]

If the Spurs are already frontrunners in Aldridge's mind before recruitment even begins, then if the Spurs ultimately don't get him, they must have royally screwed up their pitch.

It's like if you're applying to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia, and get into all four. Your mind is set on going to Harvard, but you decide to visit the other colleges as well to see what they have to offer. You do it out of due diligence, but you're unlikely to change your mind, unless disaster strikes during Harvard's campus tour or something.

:cryNo Penn:cry

[Ditty]

LA or no LA, I want to see at least two or three new faces on the team next year that have a good chance of being apart of the regular season rotation at least. At times I felt their was a lack of motivation from some players during the regular season.